May 7, 2026 • 40 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss the reported potential new owners of the Seattle Seahawks including a Boston Celtics owner and Indian steel mogul, and what matters in an owner, then react to today’s official changes for the NCAA Tournament going to 76 teams next year, then they react to Fun with Audio clips.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We got a lot to get to you, man, Bob
wits it trader, Bob, He's waiting before your time, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holy moly.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He was the guy that drafted Gary Payton, drafted John Kemp,
hired George carl I think he may have brought on
Sam Perkins as well to Seattle, hired Mike Holmgron with
the Seahawks, all that stuff. He is a guy that,
before Todd LIGHTWICKI probably was known as one of the
most influential executives in Seattle, so you think. And then
(00:28):
the Sea Hawk thing didn't go so well with Bob. Obviously,
Bob was a part of the Paul Allen family, right,
no question about that. But there's no disputing what he did.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
For the Sonics.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I mean, the guy was the architect of a Western
Conference championship team that if not for Michael Jordan, the
Chicago Bulls may have won an NBA title in ninety six.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And I think about this all the time, Dick.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What would have happened if the Sonics would have played
who was the second best team in the East that year, Detroit.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Whatever, remember whoever it was. Let's say they played that Guiana. Yeah,
let's say, right, Reggie Miller.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let's say they play Indiana and not Michael Jordan and
they win the NBA title. Eleven years later, when the
owners of the Sonics decided to ask for more money
for Key Arena and the upgrades, are the local politicians
more apt to say yes because they're coming off a
championship in the last decade.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I would say no, only because it didn't seem like it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Was close with the local politicians.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Like if it was like kind of like the Seahawks situation,
like the vote, you know, or the Mariners, like it
was super close, that might tip it over the local politicians.
Scoffed at Howard Schultz, right, which is part of the
reason we were where we were. And I don't think
that would have changed that much. Maybe there would have
been more support, but I don't think a title versus
a Western Conference title would have tipped it over the year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, the Orlando Magic were the second best team
in the East that year, with guys like Shaquille O'Neil
and three D Nick Anderson. By the way, right, so
Penny Hardaway was on that team, Horse Grant was on
that team. Former Side was on that team. Remember Anthony Bonner,
he was on that team. Donald Royal, John Concac were
on that team. So if they had played the Magic
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who knows.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Man. I kind of agree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't think it would have meant that they would
have stayed, but we would have had a better shot,
of course, for sure, if they would have been coming
off a championship. So we'll talk to Bob witsit about
all that. I think we want to get Bob on
because we want to first of all, talk some basketball
with Bob. Reminisce about the Soups, obviously, but mostly get
him on to talk about where he thinks this expansion
(02:31):
thing is going. You saw the story that came out
yesterday that Samantha Holloway and their group have hired financial
advisors for their bid.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
What does that mean for Bob when he hears this news?
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When Adam Silver comes out and says, hey, this might
not happen until December, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
How does he translate all that stuff? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like, he's got a much different perspective on this than
we do, his media and fans. So we'll talk to
Bob about that coming up at four o'clock. Now, four
thirty today, four twenty eight. I believe is I say
his first name ibn Novie Williams, who was with Sportico.
Him and his partner were the first to report that
there were two new potential Seahawk ownership groups getting floated around.
(03:16):
This came out this morning around eight thirty eight o'clock
in the morning. The first one is led by, as
we said, Indian steel tycoon Aditya Mattal who apparently inherited
his money and his company from his father and current
Celtic owner Wick Grosbuck, who used to own the Celtics.
They sold the team and he bought back in for
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a billion dollars. His share is going to drop to
about ten percent, but he still has of right now
is a minority owner of the Boston Celtics. And then
there's another guy, a guy named vanad Coleslaw who is
a minority owner of the forty nine ers. Dick, who
is the co founder of son Microsystems went to Stanford
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based in the Bay Area. All that so, I'll be
honest with you, I just put this story out there
this morning, and the immediate reaction that I got from
a lot of people on social media was please, God, No,
we don't want these guys. No, no, So I want
to go around the room and just talk about the
reaction when you hear about a guy that used to
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be the majority owner of the Boston Celtics who is
now a minority owner of the Boston Celtics, an Indian
steel tycoon who lives in India, by the way, this
guy Grossbuck. They're saying if he bought the Seahawks, he
would have residency here and in Boston half the time.
And there's a story running in the Boston Globe tomorrow
that Chris Price has sent over for us to read
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that says that the Celtic majority owners have given him
permission to seek a portion or if not all, of
the Seattle Seahawks. And then this other guy who runs
who excuse me, owns part of the forty nine ers.
So when we first heard these names getting floated around today,
what was the reaction.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The reaction from me was a, Okay, let's find out
a little bit more about these names. I mean I
immediately went to the computer right and and did some
and did some digging. I was pleasantly surprised that Grossbeck's
term as the Celtics majority controlling owner netted twenty playoff
runs in twenty three years and two championships. So I
(05:20):
was like, Okay, he's not only has he been in
the sports world before, he's been extremely successful in the
sports world as well. And then when I saw this
most recently with Cosla, I mean, he's seventy one years
of age and I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He doesn't look it, does he No?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
But but he's seventy one and I can't find any
has he owned any I don't see him owning anything
in the past of an American professional music He's.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
A minority owner of the Niners think he recently bought
into in the last few years.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I was just wondering, like, you know, where was he
Maybe maybe he didn't have the wherewithal when he was
in his forties or fifties, But you would think that
somebody that wants to jump in for the first time
to an American sports ownership, you'd be like fifty not
seventy one.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So Forbes does a real time net worth tracker and
take that no pun intended for what it's worth, but
they're saying that as of today, he's worth fourteen billion
dollars and this guy, mattal Adittiamatal, the Indian steel tycoon,
is worth twenty four billion.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So the money's there for these guys.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I think for a lot of these people, they're
just looking for places to stick their cash where they
know it can grow.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And this is an incredible investment.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Like, Guys, we think about where the Seahawks were fifteen
twenty years ago, where they are now. If this thing
is sold for let's just say ten billion for giggles,
what is it worth than twenty years from now?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What's it worth than ten years from now? So if the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Sonics are going to go for twenty five times more
than phenomenal, phenomenal investment.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like we always talk about Russell Wilson when he bought
a part of the Sounders, Like do we really think
that Russell Wilson bought a part of the Sounders because
he loves soccer or he needed a place to stick
a couple one hundred million bucks, if not, maybe a
little bit less or a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So, Look, I did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I had vaguely heard of Grossbuck's name as the Celtic guy. Obviously, Look,
I had no idea who these other two dudes were
until about six hours ago, looked them up, read about him, whatever.
And I think your point about Grossbuck as the owner
of Boston is totally fair. I think it's also fair
to have some skepticism when you're talking about three guys
none of them are from here, none of them right,
(07:26):
And look, Grossbuck is from Massachusetts, Okay, he went to
the University of Massachusetts. I believe he also went to
Stanford too, by the way, So are they going to
have the same passion? Is Grossbuck going to have the
same passion as a steward of his hometown Boston Celtics
Jackson as he will for the Seattle Seahawks. And that's
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the only thing. And again it's not a I'm not
sitting up losing sleep over this, guys, but there is
room for that conversation that when you have somebody who's
not from here, are they gonna look at the Seahawks
as an investment or are they going to look at
it as a stewardship. And if they look at it
as a stewardship, they're much more likely I think, to
(08:10):
bring success.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That's that's a good take.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I think for me, the number one and number two
things that we talked about were one, you don't come
from a place where you want to move the team
to you know, Clay Bennett scenario where there's clearly an
interest to move the team to the place and he's
not moving this team to Boston is what you're saying.
And Natal is not going to move the team to India. Right,
So there's there's right, and so there's that part of
(08:35):
it in.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
A road and then.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We'll probably playing Kolcutta. I think.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I think the idea here is that plus the element
of are you going to stay out of John Schneider
and Mike McDonald's business, right, are you gonna try to
get your hands really in the dirt and try to
do something with the team, And I don't know what
I do is I also kind of looked what did
what you did, Dick, and just lots of googling and
lots of research and mattala is you know, he already
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has his hands in an organization.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I believe it's it's a soccer team, I think, right,
either soccer creat over there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But he doesn't have his the Celtics. He's a minority
owner too. Well in the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'm talking about what he's majority over Thatch, for franchise,
over EVA, and and for the For what I understood,
he generally stays out of the day to day business.
And I like that because you've now checked both of
my boxes, and I softy, I think you bring up
a good point of Yeah, but how much of a
Seattle investment is a DTL Matal going to have in
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the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's a great question. That's for me. That's a distant.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Third box to those first two boxes. And if you
check those two two thumbs.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Up, Well, my first concern is how the franchise is run.
I'm not concerned about him moving and maybe it should
be right, maybe I'm being naive. And if I mean,
we've gone through that, right, like there's nobody in the country, Well,
there are teams fans that have lost teams before, but
we if there's anybody who's got a re to make
that their number one priority and their number one fear,
(10:04):
it's kind of us, right because of what we went
through eighteen years ago. But this just feels different, right,
this is the Seahawks, this is the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Versus the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm not waking up concerned about the Seahawks movie, although
I will say when that time comes, when the ownership
group asks for money from the public and they don't
get it and it times up with the least expiring
and there's a stadium being built somewhere else, I mean,
it might not happen for fifteen twenty years from now.
(10:33):
But Dick, we never in our life thought the Sonics
would move to Oklahoma ever thought something like that would happen.
So you just want to make sure that when that
one half of one half of one percent opportunity to
move the Seahawks does approach, that it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Gets shot down right away.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And I think if you've got a guy like a
Paul Allen or a John Nordstrom owning the Seahawks, it'll
never even be considered ever. But if you have a
guy from Boston and you have a guy from India,
or you have a guy from California who was born
in India, are they maybe just five percent less apt
to maybe say the hell with it and get out
(11:10):
and move a franchise. But again, I'm not worried about
that right now, but I do see the argument. My
concern is how the team is run, and I do
think it's going to be very difficult, guys, no matter
who buys the Seahawks. To duplicate Dick what Paul Allen
just did, you can argue with the time of his death,
he was the best owner in the NFL, and we
certainly can argue and I think win every argument that
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he's the best owner this town's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So that's what we're trying to duplicate here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, good luck, And I think your passionate argument is fair.
I mean, you look at some of the franchises, some
of the great franchises in the NFL, they're local owners.
I mean the Rooney family in Pittsburgh, Paul Allen in Seattle,
Robert Craft in New England, to Hunt family in Kansas City, Right,
those are local. But I think we're moving into an
era and now where NFL teams are getting so expensive
(11:56):
that you know, now it's just megabillion fear they're find exactly,
and so most NFL owners are not from the city
that they own the team. Yeah, yeah, I mean the
old school ones are the ones that have had him
forever are but most of the most of the new
sales are not.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Teams aren't being sold to a person in that city. Well,
and some of those teams are absolute disasters. Right Once.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You asked my cousin Evan how he feels about the
guy that runs the Jets, Ask the Brown fans how
they feel. Ask Cowboy fans how they feel about Jerry Jones. Now,
Jerry is it? You know, he's a Midwest guy. He
is a Texan, but he's from Arkansas originally. But I mean,
just because you have the money doesn't mean that you
know what the hell you're doing. Jerry Jones has plenty
of money, but he sticks his nose where it don't belong.
He's not smart enough to know what he don't know.
(12:44):
And that's the cool thing about Grosbuck. If I'm going
to say something positive about the guy, because I feel
like it's all been like concern. Chris Price, our buddy
from the Boston Globe, sent me a text this morning
and he said he's a decent guy. Took him a
few years with the Celtics to understand that he needed
to get out of the way and let the basketball
guys make the basketball decision. So eventually he became the
(13:05):
guy that you're talking about, but in general, a pretty
good owner who also carved out a nice niche with
his charity work in the Boston area. I was wronging
you went the Michigan by the way, not you mass
So anyway, again, I mean, would you, right, yeah, would
you feel more comfortable about if we're just talking about
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somebody who wants to win, right, because guys, let's face it,
most of the people that we're talking about that will
buy the Seahawks have plenty of money. They've got the
money to retain John Schneider. They got the money to
hire a Pete Carroll, they got the money to hire
a Mike Holmgren. They got the money to build a
world class practice facility. Right, That's not going to be
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the issue. The issue is, well, they have the desire
to do it. And the more local they are and
the more passionate they are about this thing, I think,
the more the desire is going to be there. And
I just again, we'll have to wait and see. Like
we said, there's nothing we can.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But is Wick gross Book and Aditya Mattal gonna have
the same passion for a Lombardi Trophy as Steve Balmer would,
for example, if he bought the team in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't know, but Steve Balmer's on the Clippers for
a long time and they're perennially first round exits in
the playoffs. So yeah, I mean the passion doesn't always equal.
It's it's who you hire and that's what equals championships,
not the passion, right, So I think much he.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
By the way, why aren't the Clippers winning? Is it
more difficult in the NBA than it is in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, you got to win the lottery, right, You got
to win the lottery or be in a city that
free agents want to go.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Los Angeles isn't.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, it is, But but I do think Clippers aren't.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's tougher. It's tougher to I think winning in the NBA.
Once you're mired in mediocrity in the NBA, it's really
hard to get out.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
The NFL has it set up where you can get
out fast.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The songs were stuck there in the last ten years
of their existence.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Agrees on why they're gone. You and I were talking
about that their day that Jackson. I don't know how
much you remember about two thousand and six two thousand
and seven, but near the end people didn't give a
damn about the Sonics and they were getting nothing for ratings.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
They were a zero and then they got Durant, right
all of a sudden, Oh wait a second, we might have.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Some up too late. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, look, I mean here's the thing. More stories like
this are going to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It's certainly possible that in the next three to four months,
by week one, we have.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
A new owner yah of this football team.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And who that owner is I think honestly, and again,
it's not like we get to vote on this, right,
not like fans like they do the Sounders over there
with their you know, GM job or whatever it is.
But I think Seahawk fans should be massively concerned with
who this person is and massively invested and interested and
who this person is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And look, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean I hope the Allen of State feels the
same way, right, Like, finding the a wealthy person Dick,
as you said, tycoon whatever, billionaire or whatever. Finding a
wealthy person to buy the Seahawks is not going to
be the problem. The problem is finding the right wealthy person.
And like we talked to Gonzano last week, do they
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care about that? Do they care about finding the right,
wealthy person or is it just the wealthiest person.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But I'm going to take the opposite, take that what
you experienced on social media today. I'm going to give
every one of these guys the benefit of the doubt.
I'm just talking about the reaction I got right.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But I think that reaction. I expected that reaction.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I expect Seattle fans to be skeptical, but every person
they don't know and every person that's not from Seattle,
because that's kind of the Seattle provincial way of things.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But again, there's reasons though, Dick we just talked about,
there's reasons to be a little more skeptical of somebody
who's not from here because of well, no, because of
the passion or lack thereof for Seahawks football. I mean again,
if you're talking about a guy who grew up in
Seattle who loves the Seahawks and desperately wants to a
championship and be the owner of a team when it happens,
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you're more likely to find that guy if he was
born and raised here or has roots here.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now, it's not a guarantee.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because look, I know Howard Schultz is from the East Coast,
but he put down roots in Seattle, and he screwed
us right, stab us right in the neck. So you
just got to find the right guy or gal. And
I really do hope. My hope is just this that
when the Allen of State does pick an owner, when
they bring that guy to the NFL for approval by
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the Commissioner and the other thirty one owners, that they
can walk out of the office and tell themselves, this
guy or this group or this gal is going to
do by the Seahawk fans the way Paul would have wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And if it doesn't work and they try, fine, right,
because guys, I do think it's going to be really
difficult to match what Paul did in Seattle. We're talking
about duplicating the greatest run that any owner has ever
had in this in this city's history. It's going to
be very difficult to pull that off. I get that.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But can we try? Can we try? That's all I want.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
We're gonna break a lot more to get to Bob
Whitson at for on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Now back to Sofie and Dick on your Home for
the Huskies, Krakin and the twelfth Man Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, Happy Thursday, everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Tomorrow, Humelling back on the air with us all live
at five, we'll get Heughey's take on the ownership groups
that were reported today by Sportico for the potential purchase
of your Seattle Seahawks. Again, one group that includes a
Indian steel tycoon. Indian steel magnet would be another good word.
I guess right, Dittya mattal and Wick Grossbuck. If Wick
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Grossbuck buys the team, we can use the line from
Fletch Wick when he was the mechanic. By the way,
it's all about ball bearings these days.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Come on, you know what I'm talking about from fletchmember
the movie Man, I remember that one. And then the
co founder of Sun Microsystems is worth about a zillion
dollars fourteen billion dollars to be to be fair. According
to Forbes, vanad Coaslaw not Coleslaw coasla Is is the
other guy that was mentioned today. So we'll talk to
you about that tomorrow on the radio show. The other
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big news today that we haven't really gotten a chance
to get to yet for those out there that are
in favor of the NCAA tournament staying at sixty eight games.
I'm sorry that is not going to happen. They approved
it today. It is going to seventy six team starting
next season. It's the first time the men's tournament Dick
(19:38):
has expanded since twenty eleven, and the first time the
women's tournament has expanded since twenty twenty two. I don't
know if I ever remember a sports league doing something
that nobody wanted, right, I mean, the NFL playoffs going
to seven some folks were against it, but okay, fine, whatever,
NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs, nobody wants this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, not only does nobody want it, the coaches are
coming out and saying we weren't.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Even consulting too late. It's done.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean, Tom Izzo came out today, Mark Few came
out today. Mark Few is like, you know, what, it
should be a special thing to make the tournament, and
you know, I don't even know if sixty eight's.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All that special to make.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But it's more it's whatever percentage ten percent more special
than seventy six is. So, I mean, it's it's unfortunate.
I guess if you want to paint some sort of
silver lining. Husky fans should take notes, because really, the
Huskies are the type of program this helps.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This doesn't help, This doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Doke, Kentucky, Gonzaga, Kansas, and it doesn't help the teams
that are perennially awful, right, But it helps teams like
the Huskies, whose Danny Sprinkle has had especially this last year.
I mean in the fifties and sixties in net ranking
most of the season. I mean, these are the types
of teams that have a ants. Now, the ninth, tenth,
eleventh place team in the Big Ten or the ACC
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those are the teams that are gonna make the sixty
nine through seventy six.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
First of all, what I'm feeling as you say that
is that they're taking pity on us, right, Okay, let's
expand it so everybody can get in now. I don't
like that feeling. And then number two, you mentioned the
net rankings, right, bring up the net rankings real quick,
will you, Dick? Bring them up from last year, because
I'm looking at the Big Ten standings last season, and
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I think the team that was left out of the
NCAA tournament. First, So the first team out was Indiana
and they were nine and eleven. Like Iowa made it right,
Ohio State made it, Ucla made it, and then everybody
else perdue Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan had a forty one in
the Indiana went nine and eleven. Where was Minnesota in
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net ranking last year?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Where were the Minnesota Let's see the Huskies by the way,
we're up there, they were fifty five.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Okay, end of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, all right, because you know, first of all, while
you're doing that, yeah, you know, the NCAA Tournament. I'm
not saying you, but people, this is not about the
best sixty eight teams in America. I mean, when you
have conference champions and you know, automatic bids.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's never been about the best six teams.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, Well, Minnesota finished eight and twelve and they were
in front of Washington in the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So here's my point. My point is this, are we
gonna throw a party?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
If Danny Sprinkle goes eight to twelve in the Big Ten,
makes the NCAA Tournament and then gets bounced on that
first Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
There will be people who will throw a party. You
know that, there will be people who throw parties. I
mean the way that this thing is structured. Guys, these
added teams, you have a situation where the lowest seeded
twelve automatic qualifiers will face each other, and then the
twelve lowest seeded at large teams will face each other.
In those games, they will all twelve of those teams
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who are the lower seeded at large teams, which include
include Washington, they will all throw parties.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think it depends on who it is.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't know who said that first, and may have
been you, Dick, it may have been some else, it
may have been de COURSEI if it's a team that
has any type of tradition at all, then they won't
They're not going.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
To give a damn if we haven't been there in
a dec right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If it's a team like a Rutgers or a Northwestern
or I don't know, give me a team out of
that big West cal Poly Santa Barbara party.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Party's all over the place.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So to me, I'm just from a standpoint of I'm
going now from Okay, making the tournament is one thing,
but now you've got to make a run. Now, if
you really want to get me excited, Now you've got
to make a run because being the seventy six team
and going what we say, eight and twelve and the
Big ten and making a seventy eighteen field and then
losing on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm sorry. That does nothing for me. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I'll be excited if my team's playing on Tuesday
just because I haven't seen him play on Tuesday or
Thursday in a decade.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But then the next year when the same thing happens,
you won't be excited because it's no longer a novelty.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Why do you think we were.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So jazzed up when the Mariners made the playoffs four
years ago because it'd been twenty years. Now it's like, hey,
if we make the playoffs this year and lose in
the first round, you'll be passed.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I think this philosophical debate of what the tournament should
be is an important one. I also think it's important
to talk about the tangible change for the average Joe
sports fan, and maybe even just a very very casual
sports fan who sees this as Yeah, every year I
fill out the bracket, and every year I fill it out,
and I make sure to have it done on Thursday morning,
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and we're often running right there are now going to
be all of these extra games taking place on Tuesday
and Wednesday. It's cool if you say, all right, none
of those games matter. You can fill out your bracket
towards Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Can sure automatic winner, you move on.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I worry how many.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And how often it's going to be the case of, oh,
there's so many games, everybody, you need to get your
bracket in by Tuesday, because if that happens, then there's
a tangible effect to the casual sports fan.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Because there's way more games.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But I think you guys are right, first of all,
and the bracket contests, if that's your biggest concern, will adjust.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Maybe some will do it that way, maybe some will
make it pick every game right, maybe you'll do one
of each, But I think the bracket contest will adjust.
I think from a gambling perspective, and I think from
an engagement perspective. The NCAA loves this because you're just
having more people fill out brackets, more people watching, more
cities across the country being invested. I don't really give
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a damn about Tuesday Wednesday. I just ignore it, right
unless there's a big upset like the Miami of Ohio
story was fun but I feel like I'll be able
to just ignore it and get to Thursday like I
always do unless my team is playing in it and
again for the first year or two, it might feel
like a bit of a novelty, But I mean, who
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was it like? Like Indiana for example, Right, that's a
great example. You think Indiana fans will care if they
make the tournament and play on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
They're Indiana. No, they won't give a day.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You know, I disagree because they haven't had enormous success
in the tournament for a while, but they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
About that now they're still Indiana.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They're not going to give their coach a pat on
the ass for making the tournament and losing on Tuesday night, Jackson,
I would guarantee.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I would arge they would because it's fresh people in
part of that program. It's fresh, it's fresh coach, it's
fresh students, and they will, I'm sorry, students will party
because they've never experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Sorry for I'm sorry. I think you're wrong. I think
there's going to be people that will enjoy it. But overall,
Indiana freaking University is not going to give their coach
credit for making the tournament and losing on Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now they get there and make a run. That's a
different story. Not in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I mean, I'm a basketball fan first, and I don't
think this tournament starts till nine am on Thursday, right,
I mean, I just don't. I mean, yeah, if there's
an eleven versus an eleven game and we're sitting here
doing the show on a Tuesday, we have it on
the television, but I'm not paying attention to it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Hey, if it's a.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Thirty you know it's a two point game with thirty
seconds left, Okay, I'll watch the last thirty seconds. And
like you said, Miami, Ohio whatever, that story was cool,
But like it doesn't and it's still not gonna start
for me unless Washington's playing. It's still not gonna start
for me until nine am on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
How many times have we made the tournament, by the way,
since two thousand and let's just say twenty twelve, last
fifteen years or twice, Indiana has been there six times.
I mean, and they've got championships in final fours. There
are teams like that Jackson that will celebrate that. Don't
that used to have history but now don't have history anymore.
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A team like Kentucky, for example, if they get in
and they're seven and eleven in the SEC or whatever
the hell it.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Is, they're not gonna care. I think we'll say to
make a run. And we're saying different things. What I'm
saying is the students on that campus will have parties
because their team is playing in the NCAA tras, because
those students they refresh every four years, have not seen
that for a time.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm talking about the fan base over all.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I mean, yeah, and students get fired up if they
give away free twinkies.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, honestly, like we got.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
We got students waiting online in the cold for free
donuts outside Alaska Airlin's arena.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
The school will put on parties, they students will go to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, but I don't think it's going to improve anybody's
resume and the eyes of the media and the eyes
of the fans.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean, if you're talking about what will it take
for a student to go out and get drunk and
light a couch on fire on a Friday night, that's
a very low bar for a lot of places. I'm
talking about the way we as fans overall feel about
where our basketball team is at. And I just think again,
it's gonna be fun for some teams that have no
history whatsoever, but for teams that expect more. This is now, truly, Dick,
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I think going to be about making a run when
you get there.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, and especially now, I mean you're not building programs anymore.
You're literally you should be expected. Fan bases now should
expect their coach and their general manager and their athletic
director to build me a winner today, right, I mean,
micro wave me a winner. And so being a part
of a seventy sixteen playoff or whatever, how is that helping?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah, we're going to break a little fun with audio
next on ninety three three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1 (29:28):
Busy Thursday continues right here on ninety three three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh, I'll tell you what if.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I smash my knee on this thing one more time
underneath this table didn't get fixed. I am going to
take this hard drive and throw it at the window. Okay,
if anybody goes by Elliott Avenue actually and sees a
hard drive bouncing off the trade tracks and we can't
you can't get on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know why this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'm gonna I'm gonna file a workman's cop claiming here.
For God's sakes, anyway, here we go a little fun
with audio slash.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick did you have
in here? What's that? Dick star Wl?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Our friend Bobby greatest Seahawk linebacker of all time? Maybe
one of the top three or four linebackers ever middle linebackers.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Sixty tackles this year, he'll be number one in NFL
history in tackles.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How many first team All Pros? Like seven? It's amazing,
the five, second most all time, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Anyway, he spoke this week at Utah State University's twenty
twenty six commencement ceremony. A linebacker received an honorary doctorate
from Utah State. They made it clear in a speech
what everyone must now call him.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
My name is now doctor Bobby Wagner, and a family
member that's here. You got to change my name and
your phone is doctor now, so I will no longer
be answering back to Bobby. It would be doctor only.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I first saw that and I thought he was being
like legit about it, that he actually earned a doctorate
somewhere and now demands to be called doctor Wagner.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He is, He is awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I spent a bunch of time with him the other
day at the Storm practice because he knew he's part
owner of the speaking parts of franchises. He was watching
his team and that's when I found out he was
actually going to get.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
His doctor Dick. You spent a lot of time with him.
Why has he not been on our show yet?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, because he's busy getting his.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Don bring something to the show for God's sake. Bobby
Wagner is a six time first team All Pro and
a five times second team All Pro. Ray Lewis was
a seven time first team All Pro at middle linebacker
for Baltimore, so second most first team All pros.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Ever said Bobby had six for seconds.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Six and five eleven times eleven times in his career,
and he's played with fifteen seasons?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Going back to twenty twelve, I mean, if they redid
that twenty twelve draft, Andrew Luck, I mean obviously quit,
but I don't know, just based on talent, you could
still take number one and maybe Russell three. Yep, honestly,
if they redid it, all right, Well, I'll tell you
what you can get a pretty weird doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Remember Ross wanted to be called a doctor because he
was a dinosaur doctor. I was looking online. Michigan State
offers a doctorate in packaging. So there's some really weird
doctors talking. Yes, yes, had to pack a box apparently.
Look it up Michigan State. I'm looking it right here,
Michigan State. You get a PhD in packaging at Michigan
State University. I mean when most of your alums end
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up working for Amazon, that makes sense. Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Then ESPN's NBA tip Off show last night, Draymond Green
speaking of Michigan State. Draymond Green joined the former TNT
crew and took this shot at Charles Barkley while talking
about older players winning titles.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Nobody wins.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
When you said what you said, I don't want to
hear if he believes what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think the goal is just to
not look like you in the Houston Rockets uniform.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Yeah, is ultimately a goal for us, like we don't
want to What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Did you see it? I'm just asking I saw it?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Wow, taking a shot, Sir Charles. What did Barkley do
with the Rockets?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
By the way, Barkley was very good with the Rockets.
What else he talking about that? I mean, God, he's
got a big mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
What's interesting is Barkley did not respond to that.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
He didn't He didn't really have a responsible I he
probably wanted to punch him in that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I was That's exactly what I was thinking, Barkley. He
may have kept his mouth shut because he was gonna
rip his head off his neck.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Barkley averaged sixteen and eight with the Rockets.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He just fine, right, right, and he won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Who's a better player win the MVP with right? But
he won it with the Suns right in ninety.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Three's not even close.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right, And Draymond doesn't win championships without play Thompson and
Steph Curry, of course not. I mean, Draymond is going
to be good for TV because he'll play the role
of the heel. Yes, you think, and everyone's gonna hate.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
His guts every time I see I've always liked Draymond,
But every time I embraced Draymond, he goes.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And just he lets you down. He lets you down
every single time, sir, Like, why would you?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Why would you say that to one of the all
time rates in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
They got big mouth, can't help himself. And I hope
this Barkley Draymond thing turns into something. Maybe it will, right,
maybe it turns into a running bit on the NBA show.
All Right, your favorite dick coming up next day?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
On Colin Cowhers show yesterday, the Fox Sports one host
said that Shay Gilgess Alexander's flopping is tarnishing his own
reputation and the league's reputation.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
First of all, Sga is a really good player. But
because the flopping is allowed and it's really bad sports.
We all know that, right, And what bothers me is
it's become a central point of the playoffs and a
central part of his game. If you do it once
a game, I'm okay with it. It's become like the
central point of his game. And the NBA is the
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sport with the most creative, artistic athletes, and this is
like acting versus AI acting.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's just not as authentic.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Watching him during an NBA game is like, to some degree,
it's like inserting one of those life alert commercials. I've
fallen and I can't get up into cert these so la.
He's totally right about it, and it's unfortunate because people
only see the highlights, right, People only see what comes
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through their Instagram feeds and their Twitter feeds. And it's
a bad look for the league because him doing that
leads critics of the league to say everybody flops in
the NBA.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Which is bs.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Just like when I heard Ian say today and God
love you Ian, but he was using Joel Embiid as
an example of how soft the NBA is.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, no, no, no, no, no, Joel l Embiid is soft.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Is Anthony Edwards soft because he's playing through injury right now?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Bigger than light.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I didn't think Anthony Edwards was going to play the
rest of the season, and he's playing right now. So
please don't say the NBA is soft because Joel Embid
has always heard of I have a.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Totally different take than you on the SGA thing. I
think it's great. I think anything that makes a member
of the Thunder look like a douchebag, I'm a fan of.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
You.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Keep doing it, man, because everybody around the NBA is
talking about what a clown.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Guy Just credit love of talent, which is awesome, like
screw from a Thunders sgative.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think it's fantastic. From an NBA's perspective, I think
it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's fine, you know what, fine, I'd rather you know what,
I'll sacrifice it. I'll sacrifice the the image of one
idiot player who's a flopper. I mean soccer players looking
at him and going, God, that guy's a flopper, right,
It's unbelievable. It's so embarrassing. Every single night, this idiot
is doing this, And you know what, I love it, man,
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I'm the fact that people are beating him up and
calling him out freaking.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You keep it going, all right? Hey, Dick, did you
happen to hear that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
What's that?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You wan four or five? Which one?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Let's do four?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
All right?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Tuesday on wfa N Sports Radio, New York, Tikky Barber
ripping Joe el Embiid for not playing hurt more often,
including in the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
If it was that bad, then don't play. If it's
gonna hurt, don't give him any ideas to physically be hurt.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:17):
And someone might run into you accidentally or otherwise, don't play.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I remember when I had a broken arm, and.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
I'll play in two thousand, I had to take my
other arm because they were like literally stepping on my
arm right just because they knew I had a broken
arm and complained about it. It's part of the risk
of playing when you're hurt. So stop being a bitch.
That's surprising to me. That really is surprised. You're surprised
that juwel Embiid is quote a bitch. He's complaining about
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that because you've been an elite athlete for.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
A long time. He's never played.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
You have to, especially when it means something to you. Sorry,
you don't complain about it. You just don't, because if
you do, it's like, give me sympathy.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Right.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
The reason that I was not great is because your
sympathy is making me feel better.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think it's different for an NFL player to play
with pain versus an NBA player. I think you can
do a lot more hurt as an NFL guy versus
an NBA guy. But Joel Embiid has done himself no favors.
Either he is the most injury struck, bad luck guy
in the history of basketball, or he's not tough right,
or not as tough as he He's played ninety six
(38:30):
games in three years. There's eighty two games in the
regular season. He's never played more than sixty eight games.
This guy's played ten years in the NBA. He's had
four years where he's played sixty or more. Four sixty
percent dick of his life in the NBA, he's played
fifty one games or less. So it's gotta be a combination.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Of the two.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We have seen the complete Joel Embiid experience this week.
We saw him single handedly knock Boston out with a
thirty four point, twelve rebound, six assist performance, and then
we saw him go three for eleven in Game one
against New York. And then we saw him miss Game two.
I mean that is that is Joel Embiid in a
nutshell like best center in the league, and then that's
(39:15):
right terrible and then not available.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well on the list of you know guys that on
the what could have been list, he's on it. I mean,
the dude finished number two in the MVP or better
three years in a row, won the damn thing in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Uh so he's he's going to be on that list.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
If you know, I'm not saying Brandon Roy, but guys
like that that if they just could have stayed healthy.
But I would never put Brandon Roy in the toughness
or lack their own category of Joel Embiid. We'll get
a break, Bob wits it. Remember him former Sonic general manager.
What does he think is about to happen with expansion?
We also got to ask him flat out how close
(39:50):
were you to trading Sean Kemp for Scottie Pippen And
did the kJ IR audience convince your owner to pull
the plug? Remember that story next on ninety three three
kJ AERFM.
We got a lot to get to you, man, Bob
wits it trader, Bob, He's waiting before your time, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Holy moly.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
He was the guy that drafted Gary Payton, drafted John Kemp,
hired George carl I think he may have brought on
Sam Perkins as well to Seattle, hired Mike Holmgron with
the Seahawks, all that stuff. He is a guy that,
before Todd LIGHTWICKI probably was known as one of the
most influential executives in Seattle, so you think. And then
(00:28):
the Sea Hawk thing didn't go so well with Bob. Obviously,
Bob was a part of the Paul Allen family, right,
no question about that. But there's no disputing what he did.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
For the Sonics.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
I mean, the guy was the architect of a Western
Conference championship team that if not for Michael Jordan, the
Chicago Bulls may have won an NBA title in ninety six.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
And I think about this all the time, Dick.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
What would have happened if the Sonics would have played
who was the second best team in the East that year, Detroit.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Whatever, remember whoever it was. Let's say they played that Guiana. Yeah,
let's say, right, Reggie Miller.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Let's say they play Indiana and not Michael Jordan and
they win the NBA title. Eleven years later, when the
owners of the Sonics decided to ask for more money
for Key Arena and the upgrades, are the local politicians
more apt to say yes because they're coming off a
championship in the last decade.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I would say no, only because it didn't seem like it.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Was close with the local politicians.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Like if it was like kind of like the Seahawks situation,
like the vote, you know, or the Mariners, like it
was super close, that might tip it over the local politicians.
Scoffed at Howard Schultz, right, which is part of the
reason we were where we were. And I don't think
that would have changed that much. Maybe there would have
been more support, but I don't think a title versus
a Western Conference title would have tipped it over the year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, the Orlando Magic were the second best team
in the East that year, with guys like Shaquille O'Neil
and three D Nick Anderson. By the way, right, so
Penny Hardaway was on that team, Horse Grant was on
that team. Former Side was on that team. Remember Anthony Bonner,
he was on that team. Donald Royal, John Concac were
on that team. So if they had played the Magic
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who knows.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Man. I kind of agree with you.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
I don't think it would have meant that they would
have stayed, but we would have had a better shot,
of course, for sure, if they would have been coming
off a championship. So we'll talk to Bob witsit about
all that. I think we want to get Bob on
because we want to first of all, talk some basketball
with Bob. Reminisce about the Soups, obviously, but mostly get
him on to talk about where he thinks this expansion
(02:31):
thing is going. You saw the story that came out
yesterday that Samantha Holloway and their group have hired financial
advisors for their bid.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
What does that mean for Bob when he hears this news?
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
When Adam Silver comes out and says, hey, this might
not happen until December, what does that mean?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
How does he translate all that stuff? Right?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Like, he's got a much different perspective on this than
we do, his media and fans. So we'll talk to
Bob about that coming up at four o'clock. Now, four
thirty today, four twenty eight. I believe is I say
his first name ibn Novie Williams, who was with Sportico.
Him and his partner were the first to report that
there were two new potential Seahawk ownership groups getting floated around.
(03:16):
This came out this morning around eight thirty eight o'clock
in the morning. The first one is led by, as
we said, Indian steel tycoon Aditya Mattal who apparently inherited
his money and his company from his father and current
Celtic owner Wick Grosbuck, who used to own the Celtics.
They sold the team and he bought back in for
(03:37):
a billion dollars. His share is going to drop to
about ten percent, but he still has of right now
is a minority owner of the Boston Celtics. And then
there's another guy, a guy named vanad Coleslaw who is
a minority owner of the forty nine ers. Dick, who
is the co founder of son Microsystems went to Stanford
(03:58):
based in the Bay Area. All that so, I'll be
honest with you, I just put this story out there
this morning, and the immediate reaction that I got from
a lot of people on social media was please, God, No,
we don't want these guys. No, no, So I want
to go around the room and just talk about the
reaction when you hear about a guy that used to
(04:20):
be the majority owner of the Boston Celtics who is
now a minority owner of the Boston Celtics, an Indian
steel tycoon who lives in India, by the way, this
guy Grossbuck. They're saying if he bought the Seahawks, he
would have residency here and in Boston half the time.
And there's a story running in the Boston Globe tomorrow
that Chris Price has sent over for us to read
(04:42):
that says that the Celtic majority owners have given him
permission to seek a portion or if not all, of
the Seattle Seahawks. And then this other guy who runs
who excuse me, owns part of the forty nine ers.
So when we first heard these names getting floated around today,
what was the reaction.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
The reaction from me was a, Okay, let's find out
a little bit more about these names. I mean I
immediately went to the computer right and and did some
and did some digging. I was pleasantly surprised that Grossbeck's
term as the Celtics majority controlling owner netted twenty playoff
runs in twenty three years and two championships. So I
(05:20):
was like, Okay, he's not only has he been in
the sports world before, he's been extremely successful in the
sports world as well. And then when I saw this
most recently with Cosla, I mean, he's seventy one years
of age and I can't.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He doesn't look it, does he No?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
But but he's seventy one and I can't find any
has he owned any I don't see him owning anything
in the past of an American professional music He's.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
A minority owner of the Niners think he recently bought
into in the last few years.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
I was just wondering, like, you know, where was he
Maybe maybe he didn't have the wherewithal when he was
in his forties or fifties, But you would think that
somebody that wants to jump in for the first time
to an American sports ownership, you'd be like fifty not
seventy one.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
So Forbes does a real time net worth tracker and
take that no pun intended for what it's worth, but
they're saying that as of today, he's worth fourteen billion
dollars and this guy, mattal Adittiamatal, the Indian steel tycoon,
is worth twenty four billion.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
So the money's there for these guys.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
And I think for a lot of these people, they're
just looking for places to stick their cash where they
know it can grow.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
And this is an incredible investment.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Like, Guys, we think about where the Seahawks were fifteen
twenty years ago, where they are now. If this thing
is sold for let's just say ten billion for giggles,
what is it worth than twenty years from now?
Speaker 2 (06:41):
What's it worth than ten years from now? So if the.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Sonics are going to go for twenty five times more
than phenomenal, phenomenal investment.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Like we always talk about Russell Wilson when he bought
a part of the Sounders, Like do we really think
that Russell Wilson bought a part of the Sounders because
he loves soccer or he needed a place to stick
a couple one hundred million bucks, if not, maybe a
little bit less or a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
So, Look, I did the same thing.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
I had vaguely heard of Grossbuck's name as the Celtic guy. Obviously, Look,
I had no idea who these other two dudes were
until about six hours ago, looked them up, read about him, whatever.
And I think your point about Grossbuck as the owner
of Boston is totally fair. I think it's also fair
to have some skepticism when you're talking about three guys
none of them are from here, none of them right,
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And look, Grossbuck is from Massachusetts, Okay, he went to
the University of Massachusetts. I believe he also went to
Stanford too, by the way, So are they going to
have the same passion? Is Grossbuck going to have the
same passion as a steward of his hometown Boston Celtics
Jackson as he will for the Seattle Seahawks. And that's
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the only thing. And again it's not a I'm not
sitting up losing sleep over this, guys, but there is
room for that conversation that when you have somebody who's
not from here, are they gonna look at the Seahawks
as an investment or are they going to look at
it as a stewardship. And if they look at it
as a stewardship, they're much more likely I think, to
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bring success.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
That's that's a good take.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
I think for me, the number one and number two
things that we talked about were one, you don't come
from a place where you want to move the team
to you know, Clay Bennett scenario where there's clearly an
interest to move the team to the place and he's
not moving this team to Boston is what you're saying.
And Natal is not going to move the team to India. Right,
So there's there's right, and so there's that part of
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it in.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
A road and then.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We'll probably playing Kolcutta. I think.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
I think the idea here is that plus the element
of are you going to stay out of John Schneider
and Mike McDonald's business, right, are you gonna try to
get your hands really in the dirt and try to
do something with the team, And I don't know what
I do is I also kind of looked what did
what you did, Dick, and just lots of googling and
lots of research and mattala is you know, he already
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has his hands in an organization.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
I believe it's it's a soccer team, I think, right,
either soccer creat over there.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
But he doesn't have his the Celtics. He's a minority
owner too. Well in the Celtics.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
I'm talking about what he's majority over Thatch, for franchise,
over EVA, and and for the For what I understood,
he generally stays out of the day to day business.
And I like that because you've now checked both of
my boxes, and I softy, I think you bring up
a good point of Yeah, but how much of a
Seattle investment is a DTL Matal going to have in
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the Seahawks.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's a great question. That's for me. That's a distant.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Third box to those first two boxes. And if you
check those two two thumbs.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Up, Well, my first concern is how the franchise is run.
I'm not concerned about him moving and maybe it should
be right, maybe I'm being naive. And if I mean,
we've gone through that, right, like there's nobody in the country, Well,
there are teams fans that have lost teams before, but
we if there's anybody who's got a re to make
that their number one priority and their number one fear,
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it's kind of us, right because of what we went
through eighteen years ago. But this just feels different, right,
this is the Seahawks, this is the NFL.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Versus the NBA.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
I'm not waking up concerned about the Seahawks movie, although
I will say when that time comes, when the ownership
group asks for money from the public and they don't
get it and it times up with the least expiring
and there's a stadium being built somewhere else, I mean,
it might not happen for fifteen twenty years from now.
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But Dick, we never in our life thought the Sonics
would move to Oklahoma ever thought something like that would happen.
So you just want to make sure that when that
one half of one half of one percent opportunity to
move the Seahawks does approach, that it.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Gets shot down right away.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And I think if you've got a guy like a
Paul Allen or a John Nordstrom owning the Seahawks, it'll
never even be considered ever. But if you have a
guy from Boston and you have a guy from India,
or you have a guy from California who was born
in India, are they maybe just five percent less apt
to maybe say the hell with it and get out
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and move a franchise. But again, I'm not worried about
that right now, but I do see the argument. My
concern is how the team is run, and I do
think it's going to be very difficult, guys, no matter
who buys the Seahawks. To duplicate Dick what Paul Allen
just did, you can argue with the time of his death,
he was the best owner in the NFL, and we
certainly can argue and I think win every argument that
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he's the best owner this town's ever seen.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
So that's what we're trying to duplicate here.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Yeah, good luck, And I think your passionate argument is fair.
I mean, you look at some of the franchises, some
of the great franchises in the NFL, they're local owners.
I mean the Rooney family in Pittsburgh, Paul Allen in Seattle,
Robert Craft in New England, to Hunt family in Kansas City, Right,
those are local. But I think we're moving into an
era and now where NFL teams are getting so expensive
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that you know, now it's just megabillion fear they're find exactly,
and so most NFL owners are not from the city
that they own the team. Yeah, yeah, I mean the
old school ones are the ones that have had him
forever are but most of the most of the new
sales are not.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Teams aren't being sold to a person in that city. Well,
and some of those teams are absolute disasters. Right Once.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
You asked my cousin Evan how he feels about the
guy that runs the Jets, Ask the Brown fans how
they feel. Ask Cowboy fans how they feel about Jerry Jones. Now,
Jerry is it? You know, he's a Midwest guy. He
is a Texan, but he's from Arkansas originally. But I mean,
just because you have the money doesn't mean that you
know what the hell you're doing. Jerry Jones has plenty
of money, but he sticks his nose where it don't belong.
He's not smart enough to know what he don't know.
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And that's the cool thing about Grosbuck. If I'm going
to say something positive about the guy, because I feel
like it's all been like concern. Chris Price, our buddy
from the Boston Globe, sent me a text this morning
and he said he's a decent guy. Took him a
few years with the Celtics to understand that he needed
to get out of the way and let the basketball
guys make the basketball decision. So eventually he became the
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guy that you're talking about, but in general, a pretty
good owner who also carved out a nice niche with
his charity work in the Boston area. I was wronging
you went the Michigan by the way, not you mass
So anyway, again, I mean, would you, right, yeah, would
you feel more comfortable about if we're just talking about
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somebody who wants to win, right, because guys, let's face it,
most of the people that we're talking about that will
buy the Seahawks have plenty of money. They've got the
money to retain John Schneider. They got the money to
hire a Pete Carroll, they got the money to hire
a Mike Holmgren. They got the money to build a
world class practice facility. Right, That's not going to be
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the issue. The issue is, well, they have the desire
to do it. And the more local they are and
the more passionate they are about this thing, I think,
the more the desire is going to be there. And
I just again, we'll have to wait and see. Like
we said, there's nothing we can.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Do about it.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
But is Wick gross Book and Aditya Mattal gonna have
the same passion for a Lombardi Trophy as Steve Balmer would,
for example, if he bought the team in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
I don't know, but Steve Balmer's on the Clippers for
a long time and they're perennially first round exits in
the playoffs. So yeah, I mean the passion doesn't always equal.
It's it's who you hire and that's what equals championships,
not the passion, right, So I think much he.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
By the way, why aren't the Clippers winning? Is it
more difficult in the NBA than it is in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
Yes, you got to win the lottery, right, You got
to win the lottery or be in a city that
free agents want to go.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Los Angeles isn't.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
No, it is, But but I do think Clippers aren't.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
It's tougher. It's tougher to I think winning in the NBA.
Once you're mired in mediocrity in the NBA, it's really
hard to get out.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
The NFL has it set up where you can get
out fast.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The songs were stuck there in the last ten years
of their existence.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Agrees on why they're gone. You and I were talking
about that their day that Jackson. I don't know how
much you remember about two thousand and six two thousand
and seven, but near the end people didn't give a
damn about the Sonics and they were getting nothing for ratings.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
They were a zero and then they got Durant, right
all of a sudden, Oh wait a second, we might have.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Some up too late. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Well, look, I mean here's the thing. More stories like
this are going to come out.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Guys.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
It's certainly possible that in the next three to four months,
by week one, we have.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
A new owner yah of this football team.
Speaker 1 (15:30):
And who that owner is I think honestly, and again,
it's not like we get to vote on this, right,
not like fans like they do the Sounders over there
with their you know, GM job or whatever it is.
But I think Seahawk fans should be massively concerned with
who this person is and massively invested and interested and
who this person is.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
And look, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I mean I hope the Allen of State feels the
same way, right, Like, finding the a wealthy person Dick,
as you said, tycoon whatever, billionaire or whatever. Finding a
wealthy person to buy the Seahawks is not going to
be the problem. The problem is finding the right wealthy person.
And like we talked to Gonzano last week, do they
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care about that? Do they care about finding the right,
wealthy person or is it just the wealthiest person.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
But I'm going to take the opposite, take that what
you experienced on social media today. I'm going to give
every one of these guys the benefit of the doubt.
I'm just talking about the reaction I got right.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
But I think that reaction. I expected that reaction.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I expect Seattle fans to be skeptical, but every person
they don't know and every person that's not from Seattle,
because that's kind of the Seattle provincial way of things.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But again, there's reasons though, Dick we just talked about,
there's reasons to be a little more skeptical of somebody
who's not from here because of well, no, because of
the passion or lack thereof for Seahawks football. I mean again,
if you're talking about a guy who grew up in
Seattle who loves the Seahawks and desperately wants to a
championship and be the owner of a team when it happens,
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you're more likely to find that guy if he was
born and raised here or has roots here.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Now, it's not a guarantee.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Because look, I know Howard Schultz is from the East Coast,
but he put down roots in Seattle, and he screwed
us right, stab us right in the neck. So you
just got to find the right guy or gal. And
I really do hope. My hope is just this that
when the Allen of State does pick an owner, when
they bring that guy to the NFL for approval by
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the Commissioner and the other thirty one owners, that they
can walk out of the office and tell themselves, this
guy or this group or this gal is going to
do by the Seahawk fans the way Paul would have wanted.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
That's all I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
And if it doesn't work and they try, fine, right,
because guys, I do think it's going to be really
difficult to match what Paul did in Seattle. We're talking
about duplicating the greatest run that any owner has ever
had in this in this city's history. It's going to
be very difficult to pull that off. I get that.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
But can we try? Can we try? That's all I want.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
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Speaker 6 (18:14):
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Speaker 2 (18:24):
All right, Happy Thursday, everybody.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Tomorrow, Humelling back on the air with us all live
at five, we'll get Heughey's take on the ownership groups
that were reported today by Sportico for the potential purchase
of your Seattle Seahawks. Again, one group that includes a
Indian steel tycoon. Indian steel magnet would be another good word.
I guess right, Dittya mattal and Wick Grossbuck. If Wick
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Grossbuck buys the team, we can use the line from
Fletch Wick when he was the mechanic. By the way,
it's all about ball bearings these days.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Boys.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Come on, you know what I'm talking about from fletchmember
the movie Man, I remember that one. And then the
co founder of Sun Microsystems is worth about a zillion
dollars fourteen billion dollars to be to be fair. According
to Forbes, vanad Coaslaw not Coleslaw coasla Is is the
other guy that was mentioned today. So we'll talk to
you about that tomorrow on the radio show. The other
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big news today that we haven't really gotten a chance
to get to yet for those out there that are
in favor of the NCAA tournament staying at sixty eight games.
I'm sorry that is not going to happen. They approved
it today. It is going to seventy six team starting
next season. It's the first time the men's tournament Dick
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has expanded since twenty eleven, and the first time the
women's tournament has expanded since twenty twenty two. I don't
know if I ever remember a sports league doing something
that nobody wanted, right, I mean, the NFL playoffs going
to seven some folks were against it, but okay, fine, whatever,
NBA playoffs, NHL playoffs, nobody wants this.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
Well, not only does nobody want it, the coaches are
coming out and saying we weren't.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Even consulting too late. It's done.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
I mean, Tom Izzo came out today, Mark Few came
out today. Mark Few is like, you know, what, it
should be a special thing to make the tournament, and
you know, I don't even know if sixty eight's.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
All that special to make.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
But it's more it's whatever percentage ten percent more special
than seventy six is. So, I mean, it's it's unfortunate.
I guess if you want to paint some sort of
silver lining. Husky fans should take notes, because really, the
Huskies are the type of program this helps.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
This doesn't help, This doesn't help.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
Doke, Kentucky, Gonzaga, Kansas, and it doesn't help the teams
that are perennially awful, right, But it helps teams like
the Huskies, whose Danny Sprinkle has had especially this last year.
I mean in the fifties and sixties in net ranking
most of the season. I mean, these are the types
of teams that have a ants. Now, the ninth, tenth,
eleventh place team in the Big Ten or the ACC
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those are the teams that are gonna make the sixty
nine through seventy six.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
First of all, what I'm feeling as you say that
is that they're taking pity on us, right, Okay, let's
expand it so everybody can get in now. I don't
like that feeling. And then number two, you mentioned the
net rankings, right, bring up the net rankings real quick,
will you, Dick? Bring them up from last year, because
I'm looking at the Big Ten standings last season, and
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I think the team that was left out of the
NCAA tournament. First, So the first team out was Indiana
and they were nine and eleven. Like Iowa made it right,
Ohio State made it, Ucla made it, and then everybody
else perdue Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan had a forty one in
the Indiana went nine and eleven. Where was Minnesota in
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net ranking last year?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Where were the Minnesota Let's see the Huskies by the way,
we're up there, they were fifty five.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Okay, end of the year.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Okay, all right, because you know, first of all, while
you're doing that, yeah, you know, the NCAA Tournament. I'm
not saying you, but people, this is not about the
best sixty eight teams in America. I mean, when you
have conference champions and you know, automatic bids.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
It's never been about the best six teams.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, Well, Minnesota finished eight and twelve and they were
in front of Washington in the Big ten.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So here's my point. My point is this, are we
gonna throw a party?
Speaker 1 (22:21):
If Danny Sprinkle goes eight to twelve in the Big Ten,
makes the NCAA Tournament and then gets bounced on that
first Tuesday.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
There will be people who will throw a party. You
know that, there will be people who throw parties. I
mean the way that this thing is structured. Guys, these
added teams, you have a situation where the lowest seeded
twelve automatic qualifiers will face each other, and then the
twelve lowest seeded at large teams will face each other.
In those games, they will all twelve of those teams
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who are the lower seeded at large teams, which include
include Washington, they will all throw parties.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
I think it depends on who it is.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
I don't know who said that first, and may have
been you, Dick, it may have been some else, it
may have been de COURSEI if it's a team that
has any type of tradition at all, then they won't
They're not going.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
To give a damn if we haven't been there in
a dec right.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
If it's a team like a Rutgers or a Northwestern
or I don't know, give me a team out of
that big West cal Poly Santa Barbara party.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Party's all over the place.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
So to me, I'm just from a standpoint of I'm
going now from Okay, making the tournament is one thing,
but now you've got to make a run. Now, if
you really want to get me excited, Now you've got
to make a run because being the seventy six team
and going what we say, eight and twelve and the
Big ten and making a seventy eighteen field and then
losing on Tuesday and Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
I'm sorry. That does nothing for me. Nothing.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
So I'll be excited if my team's playing on Tuesday
just because I haven't seen him play on Tuesday or
Thursday in a decade.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
But then the next year when the same thing happens,
you won't be excited because it's no longer a novelty.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
Why do you think we were.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
So jazzed up when the Mariners made the playoffs four
years ago because it'd been twenty years. Now it's like, hey,
if we make the playoffs this year and lose in
the first round, you'll be passed.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
I think this philosophical debate of what the tournament should
be is an important one. I also think it's important
to talk about the tangible change for the average Joe
sports fan, and maybe even just a very very casual
sports fan who sees this as Yeah, every year I
fill out the bracket, and every year I fill it out,
and I make sure to have it done on Thursday morning,
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and we're often running right there are now going to
be all of these extra games taking place on Tuesday
and Wednesday. It's cool if you say, all right, none
of those games matter. You can fill out your bracket
towards Thursday.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Can sure automatic winner, you move on.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I worry how many.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
And how often it's going to be the case of, oh,
there's so many games, everybody, you need to get your
bracket in by Tuesday, because if that happens, then there's
a tangible effect to the casual sports fan.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Because there's way more games.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
But I think you guys are right, first of all,
and the bracket contests, if that's your biggest concern, will adjust.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
Maybe some will do it that way, maybe some will
make it pick every game right, maybe you'll do one
of each, But I think the bracket contest will adjust.
I think from a gambling perspective, and I think from
an engagement perspective. The NCAA loves this because you're just
having more people fill out brackets, more people watching, more
cities across the country being invested. I don't really give
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a damn about Tuesday Wednesday. I just ignore it, right
unless there's a big upset like the Miami of Ohio
story was fun but I feel like I'll be able
to just ignore it and get to Thursday like I
always do unless my team is playing in it and
again for the first year or two, it might feel
like a bit of a novelty, But I mean, who
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was it like? Like Indiana for example, Right, that's a
great example. You think Indiana fans will care if they
make the tournament and play on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
They're Indiana. No, they won't give a day.
Speaker 5 (25:58):
You know, I disagree because they haven't had enormous success
in the tournament for a while, but they're pissed.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
About that now they're still Indiana.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
They're not going to give their coach a pat on
the ass for making the tournament and losing on Tuesday night, Jackson,
I would guarantee.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
I would arge they would because it's fresh people in
part of that program. It's fresh, it's fresh coach, it's
fresh students, and they will, I'm sorry, students will party
because they've never experienced.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Sorry for I'm sorry. I think you're wrong. I think
there's going to be people that will enjoy it. But overall,
Indiana freaking University is not going to give their coach
credit for making the tournament and losing on Wednesday night.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now they get there and make a run. That's a
different story. Not in Indiana.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I mean, I'm a basketball fan first, and I don't
think this tournament starts till nine am on Thursday, right,
I mean, I just don't. I mean, yeah, if there's
an eleven versus an eleven game and we're sitting here
doing the show on a Tuesday, we have it on
the television, but I'm not paying attention to it.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Hey, if it's a.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Thirty you know it's a two point game with thirty
seconds left, Okay, I'll watch the last thirty seconds. And
like you said, Miami, Ohio whatever, that story was cool,
But like it doesn't and it's still not gonna start
for me unless Washington's playing. It's still not gonna start
for me until nine am on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
How many times have we made the tournament, by the way,
since two thousand and let's just say twenty twelve, last
fifteen years or twice, Indiana has been there six times.
I mean, and they've got championships in final fours. There
are teams like that Jackson that will celebrate that. Don't
that used to have history but now don't have history anymore.
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A team like Kentucky, for example, if they get in
and they're seven and eleven in the SEC or whatever
the hell it.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
Is, they're not gonna care. I think we'll say to
make a run. And we're saying different things. What I'm
saying is the students on that campus will have parties
because their team is playing in the NCAA tras, because
those students they refresh every four years, have not seen
that for a time.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I'm talking about the fan base over all.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
I mean, yeah, and students get fired up if they
give away free twinkies.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, honestly, like we got.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
We got students waiting online in the cold for free
donuts outside Alaska Airlin's arena.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
The school will put on parties, they students will go to.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yes, but I don't think it's going to improve anybody's
resume and the eyes of the media and the eyes
of the fans.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's my point.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean, if you're talking about what will it take
for a student to go out and get drunk and
light a couch on fire on a Friday night, that's
a very low bar for a lot of places. I'm
talking about the way we as fans overall feel about
where our basketball team is at. And I just think again,
it's gonna be fun for some teams that have no
history whatsoever, but for teams that expect more. This is now, truly, Dick,
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I think going to be about making a run when
you get there.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
Yeah, and especially now, I mean you're not building programs anymore.
You're literally you should be expected. Fan bases now should
expect their coach and their general manager and their athletic
director to build me a winner today, right, I mean,
micro wave me a winner. And so being a part
of a seventy sixteen playoff or whatever, how is that helping?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
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Speaker 6 (29:07):
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Speaker 1 (29:28):
Busy Thursday continues right here on ninety three three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Uh, I'll tell you what if.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
I smash my knee on this thing one more time
underneath this table didn't get fixed. I am going to
take this hard drive and throw it at the window. Okay,
if anybody goes by Elliott Avenue actually and sees a
hard drive bouncing off the trade tracks and we can't
you can't get on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
You know why this is ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I'm gonna I'm gonna file a workman's cop claiming here.
For God's sakes, anyway, here we go a little fun
with audio slash.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Hey did you hear that? Hey, Dick did you have
in here? What's that? Dick star Wl?
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Our friend Bobby greatest Seahawk linebacker of all time? Maybe
one of the top three or four linebackers ever middle linebackers.
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Sixty tackles this year, he'll be number one in NFL
history in tackles.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
How many first team All Pros? Like seven? It's amazing,
the five, second most all time, I think.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Anyway, he spoke this week at Utah State University's twenty
twenty six commencement ceremony. A linebacker received an honorary doctorate
from Utah State. They made it clear in a speech
what everyone must now call him.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
My name is now doctor Bobby Wagner, and a family
member that's here. You got to change my name and
your phone is doctor now, so I will no longer
be answering back to Bobby. It would be doctor only.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I first saw that and I thought he was being
like legit about it, that he actually earned a doctorate
somewhere and now demands to be called doctor Wagner.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
He is, He is awesome.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I spent a bunch of time with him the other
day at the Storm practice because he knew he's part
owner of the speaking parts of franchises. He was watching
his team and that's when I found out he was
actually going to get.
Speaker 5 (31:05):
His doctor Dick. You spent a lot of time with him.
Why has he not been on our show yet?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, because he's busy getting his.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Don bring something to the show for God's sake. Bobby
Wagner is a six time first team All Pro and
a five times second team All Pro. Ray Lewis was
a seven time first team All Pro at middle linebacker
for Baltimore, so second most first team All pros.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Ever said Bobby had six for seconds.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Six and five eleven times eleven times in his career,
and he's played with fifteen seasons?
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Going back to twenty twelve, I mean, if they redid
that twenty twelve draft, Andrew Luck, I mean obviously quit,
but I don't know, just based on talent, you could
still take number one and maybe Russell three. Yep, honestly,
if they redid it, all right, Well, I'll tell you
what you can get a pretty weird doctor.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Man.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
Remember Ross wanted to be called a doctor because he
was a dinosaur doctor. I was looking online. Michigan State
offers a doctorate in packaging. So there's some really weird
doctors talking. Yes, yes, had to pack a box apparently.
Look it up Michigan State. I'm looking it right here,
Michigan State. You get a PhD in packaging at Michigan
State University. I mean when most of your alums end
(32:17):
up working for Amazon, that makes sense. Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (32:22):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Then ESPN's NBA tip Off show last night, Draymond Green
speaking of Michigan State. Draymond Green joined the former TNT
crew and took this shot at Charles Barkley while talking
about older players winning titles.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Nobody wins.
Speaker 6 (32:37):
When you said what you said, I don't want to
hear if he believes what you're talking.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Yeah, I mean, I think the goal is just to
not look like you in the Houston Rockets uniform.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
Yeah, is ultimately a goal for us, like we don't
want to What does that look like?
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Did you see it? I'm just asking I saw it?
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Wow, taking a shot, Sir Charles. What did Barkley do
with the Rockets?
Speaker 2 (33:02):
By the way, Barkley was very good with the Rockets.
What else he talking about that? I mean, God, he's
got a big mouth.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
What's interesting is Barkley did not respond to that.
Speaker 3 (33:10):
He didn't He didn't really have a responsible I he
probably wanted to punch him in that.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
I was That's exactly what I was thinking, Barkley. He
may have kept his mouth shut because he was gonna
rip his head off his neck.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
Barkley averaged sixteen and eight with the Rockets.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
He just fine, right, right, and he won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Who's a better player win the MVP with right? But
he won it with the Suns right in ninety.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Three's not even close.
Speaker 1 (33:32):
Right, And Draymond doesn't win championships without play Thompson and
Steph Curry, of course not. I mean, Draymond is going
to be good for TV because he'll play the role
of the heel. Yes, you think, and everyone's gonna hate.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
His guts every time I see I've always liked Draymond,
But every time I embraced Draymond, he goes.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
And just he lets you down. He lets you down
every single time, sir, Like, why would you?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Why would you say that to one of the all
time rates in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
They got big mouth, can't help himself. And I hope
this Barkley Draymond thing turns into something. Maybe it will, right,
maybe it turns into a running bit on the NBA show.
All Right, your favorite dick coming up next day?
Speaker 3 (34:12):
Dick?
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Did you happen to hear that? What's that?
Speaker 6 (34:14):
Dick?
Speaker 1 (34:14):
On Colin Cowhers show yesterday, the Fox Sports one host
said that Shay Gilgess Alexander's flopping is tarnishing his own
reputation and the league's reputation.
Speaker 3 (34:26):
First of all, Sga is a really good player. But
because the flopping is allowed and it's really bad sports.
We all know that, right, And what bothers me is
it's become a central point of the playoffs and a
central part of his game. If you do it once
a game, I'm okay with it. It's become like the
central point of his game. And the NBA is the
(34:48):
sport with the most creative, artistic athletes, and this is
like acting versus AI acting.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
It's just not as authentic.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Watching him during an NBA game is like, to some degree,
it's like inserting one of those life alert commercials. I've
fallen and I can't get up into cert these so la.
He's totally right about it, and it's unfortunate because people
only see the highlights, right, People only see what comes
(35:22):
through their Instagram feeds and their Twitter feeds. And it's
a bad look for the league because him doing that
leads critics of the league to say everybody flops in
the NBA.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Which is bs.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Just like when I heard Ian say today and God
love you Ian, but he was using Joel Embiid as
an example of how soft the NBA is.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
No, no, no, no, no, no, Joel l Embiid is soft.
Speaker 3 (35:48):
Is Anthony Edwards soft because he's playing through injury right now?
Speaker 2 (35:52):
Bigger than light.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
I didn't think Anthony Edwards was going to play the
rest of the season, and he's playing right now. So
please don't say the NBA is soft because Joel Embid
has always heard of I have a.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Totally different take than you on the SGA thing. I
think it's great. I think anything that makes a member
of the Thunder look like a douchebag, I'm a fan of.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
You.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Keep doing it, man, because everybody around the NBA is
talking about what a clown.
Speaker 3 (36:16):
Guy Just credit love of talent, which is awesome, like
screw from a Thunders sgative.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
I think it's fantastic. From an NBA's perspective, I think
it's terrible.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
That's fine, you know what, fine, I'd rather you know what,
I'll sacrifice it. I'll sacrifice the the image of one
idiot player who's a flopper. I mean soccer players looking
at him and going, God, that guy's a flopper, right,
It's unbelievable. It's so embarrassing. Every single night, this idiot
is doing this, And you know what, I love it, man,
(36:46):
I'm the fact that people are beating him up and
calling him out freaking.
Speaker 2 (36:50):
Go for it.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
You keep it going, all right? Hey, Dick, did you
happen to hear that.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
What's that?
Speaker 7 (36:56):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (36:56):
You wan four or five? Which one?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
Let's do four?
Speaker 2 (36:58):
All right?
Speaker 7 (36:59):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (37:00):
Tuesday on wfa N Sports Radio, New York, Tikky Barber
ripping Joe el Embiid for not playing hurt more often,
including in the playoffs.
Speaker 8 (37:09):
If it was that bad, then don't play. If it's
gonna hurt, don't give him any ideas to physically be hurt.
Speaker 4 (37:17):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:17):
And someone might run into you accidentally or otherwise, don't play.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I remember when I had a broken arm, and.
Speaker 8 (37:25):
I'll play in two thousand, I had to take my
other arm because they were like literally stepping on my
arm right just because they knew I had a broken
arm and complained about it. It's part of the risk
of playing when you're hurt. So stop being a bitch.
That's surprising to me. That really is surprised. You're surprised
that juwel Embiid is quote a bitch. He's complaining about
(37:45):
that because you've been an elite athlete for.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
A long time. He's never played.
Speaker 8 (37:52):
You have to, especially when it means something to you. Sorry,
you don't complain about it. You just don't, because if
you do, it's like, give me sympathy.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Right.
Speaker 8 (38:01):
The reason that I was not great is because your
sympathy is making me feel better.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I think it's different for an NFL player to play
with pain versus an NBA player. I think you can
do a lot more hurt as an NFL guy versus
an NBA guy. But Joel Embiid has done himself no favors.
Either he is the most injury struck, bad luck guy
in the history of basketball, or he's not tough right,
or not as tough as he He's played ninety six
(38:30):
games in three years. There's eighty two games in the
regular season. He's never played more than sixty eight games.
This guy's played ten years in the NBA. He's had
four years where he's played sixty or more. Four sixty
percent dick of his life in the NBA, he's played
fifty one games or less. So it's gotta be a combination.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Of the two.
Speaker 3 (38:53):
We have seen the complete Joel Embiid experience this week.
We saw him single handedly knock Boston out with a
thirty four point, twelve rebound, six assist performance, and then
we saw him go three for eleven in Game one
against New York. And then we saw him miss Game two.
I mean that is that is Joel Embiid in a
nutshell like best center in the league, and then that's
(39:15):
right terrible and then not available.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well on the list of you know guys that on
the what could have been list, he's on it. I mean,
the dude finished number two in the MVP or better
three years in a row, won the damn thing in
twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Uh so he's he's going to be on that list.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
If you know, I'm not saying Brandon Roy, but guys
like that that if they just could have stayed healthy.
But I would never put Brandon Roy in the toughness
or lack their own category of Joel Embiid. We'll get
a break, Bob wits it. Remember him former Sonic general manager.
What does he think is about to happen with expansion?
We also got to ask him flat out how close
(39:50):
were you to trading Sean Kemp for Scottie Pippen And
did the kJ IR audience convince your owner to pull
the plug? Remember that story next on ninety three three
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