May 8, 2026 • 54 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about the sale of the Seahawks coming up and potential new owners, react to some texts by listeners discussing former Mariners third basemen and the Huskies move to the Big Ten, update the status of Kade Anderson, then talk some UW Huskies football with Tony Castricone
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Get to Humillin right now. All right.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We have not had Hugh on the air since the
story came out the other day about the ownership possibilities
for the Seattle Seahawks, and I desperately, desperately wanted to
have Hugh on that dayd said, nope, nope, nope, just
let it marinate. You'll get him on Friday, All Live
at five and we'll get huge thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Then let the people wait, Let.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The people wait, let them rot, let them suffer, all right,
let them appreciate not having Hue on the air. Well
Sportico Hugh A couple of days ago. Yesterday actually reported
that Indian steel tycoon Aditya Mattal and current minority owner
of the Celtics Wick Grosbuck plus Sun Microsystems co founder
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vanad Colesla we're going to put in offers for the Seahawks.
And then today ESPN reported but they're kind of backtracking
here a little bit. This Canadian guy who is a
real estate and private equity mogul, Steve Apostelopolis no relation
to snuffle up Agus that he might be involved as well.
So when you hear these names and hear these possibilities, man, what.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do you what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, I just want to see who's the most Jody
Allen and Paul Allen like, right, hey, you keep the
money flowing and stay the hell out of the way,
is really how you'd condense it in looking at them.
You know, the the GROSSPEC middle group they've got more
money twenty four billion. The coastla at more like fourteen billion,
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could be a factor. I kind of like that Grossbeck
was an owner of the Celtics. They won two titles,
and you know he by all accounts that I I've
been able to ascertain, he's kind of let Brad Stevens
do his thing now. He's not a Paul Allen, you know,
low profile guy. He's kind of the high energy, high
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energy superfan type, more along the lines of a Steve Balmer, right,
but I think I think there's something there concrete. As
far as Cosla, I'm not deterred by the fact that
you know, he's a three point one percent, I believe
owner of the forty nine ers, you know, and he's
from the Bay Area. You know, he's he's dipped his
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toe in being an owner. I'm sure you know some
people say, well, is I don't want anybody from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think if he's the majority owner of the Seahawks,
I think he's all in on the Seahawks. But you know,
in that sense, he probably be from a personality standpoint,
more like Paul Allen, obviously a tech guy and personality
stay out of the way. You know, the other guys,
you know, maybe they made their money and steel versus
tech kids, and you know, it's almost the contract contrast
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is obviously start. So anyway, I probably among that two groups.
Just what I've been able to ascertain slight leading to
Grossbeck middle but right, But I could be uh, I
could go along with the coast Ide really want Balmer
would be my first choice, But at any event, we'll
see how it plays out there. You know, both of
them are intriguing.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, your point is well taken about not you know,
the fans that wouldn't want a forty nine or owner.
Wait a second, does that mean you wouldn't want a
forty nine or free agent if he chose he'd rather
play in Seattle than play in San Francisco. I don't
think it's you just inserting logic right about that. So
what would be what would be a red flag? Either
pre sale red flag with one of the candidates or
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post sale where you were like, oh, this isn't good.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Well, I think unnecessarily meddling.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know, I think that they've got a pretty good
thing going on the football side, certainly for the Seahawks,
probably on the business side as well. But any meddling
that would turn off John Snyder and make him feel
compelled I'll just wait out my contract and then you know,
see who wants my services?
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Probably just about every team in the NFL, maybe this
side of the Philadelphia Eagles with with with Roseman, right,
Howie Roseman. But but that would be the thing that
would concern me the most is the meddling on the
football side of it. And then if he can't if
they don't have the cash flow for some reason. Now
there's a strict thirty percent, you gotta have thirty percent
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of the value. These guys have that money. But if
for some reason they're cash flow with restrict you know,
let's say you sign a high profile quarterback and you
know high and you know, you know in the future,
sixty seventy eighty million dollars signing boss, and then they say, well, okay,
we gotta let's let's put a lid on spending. You know,
I'll only allow you, you know, twenty million or less
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for the remainder of our our acquisis. I'm just pulling
those numbers out. I mean, just if you can, if
you can lock in on the philosophy, you can quibble
then with the numbers. I don't want him any owner
allowing the Seahawks to be at a competitive disadvantage due
to cash flow.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, Well, the good news about John Schneider, Guys, unless
he just quits, I guess is he's locked in through
twenty thousand and thirty one.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I mean, he's got six years.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Left on his damp faster than you think, Oh, no doubt,
a young man six years is six years. I mean,
that's like him and McDonald are going to get a
shot to be together for eight seasons, which is awesome
if it does happen like that.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I think you and I Dave share this opinion. A factor,
let me use my words carefully, A factor for Kaylin
de Boor leaving for Alabama was Troy Dannon, right percent.
If you don't like your boss, then you know, of
course Dannon didn't hire him, so you know there we
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just don't want anybody involved on the on the football
side of things or any other side of things that
doing their job well right and then for some reason
they're put off stylistically or the constraints that maybe put
on all of that is you know, it would be conjecture,
but those are the kind of things that you're concerned about.
(06:11):
I'm not sure how much of that we can nail
down right now, other than again, prospect. You know, he
was the owner of the Celtics when they won two championships,
and by all accounts he stayed the hell out of
the way from from Brests. That to me would be
enough for me to lean in that direction.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, there's stories down there that will come
out later.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I mean, whatever but people I didn't kind of know
that Troy Dannon was not a good fit at all
for U dub. I don't think people realize what a
dipstick this guy really was when he was here in Seattle.
And there's a lot of stories that are yet to
be told. We've told a lot. I've told the story
on the air view about how we tried to have
me and Dick thrown out of Jedfish's introductory press conference
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for simply going over his resume on the air. I mean,
the guy was a world class clown when he was
here in Seattle. And you're right, partially cost this hawks
or the Huskies Klin de boor. I'm not saying he
were a state of jen was here, but they would
have had a much better shot.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But Humil One's with us and Hugh.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I mean, look, obviously there's a shot that we could
have a new owner by September. And look, I mean,
nobody really knows for you sure, John Gonzano's been on
with us many times talking about the Allen estate and
what their job is. It sounds like they're just looking
for the biggest check they can find. I'm just hopeful
and maybe naively so that they do what you want,
right what you talked about, that they look for somebody
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who's going to run this thing the way Paul Allen
and Jody Allen would have wanted it run. And I
hope that they put in the effort to make that happen,
because getting billions of dollars to donate to charity is
not going to be a problem. They'll get their billions
of dollars to donate to charity, but getting a guy
to run this thing the way Paul did might be
a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, well, we don't know. I'll speak for myself. I
don't know all of the details of the terms of
his will and whether or not terms can be enforced
in the contract of the sale. I would be interested in, Hey,
the team isn't going to be moved, you know. Obviously
Paul Allen lived through watching the Sonics depart, and as
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a native seattleite, I'm a sports fan. I would assume
that that on some level that that was of great
disappointment to him. So if if that's something that can
be ensured, that that would be something that would be
intriguing to me. I think twenty thirty one that's probably
isn't that the year that the seas lease ends at
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think it's a year earlier, but yeah around there. Okay, right,
well that's going to happen fast, right, sure. So Look,
do I have a fear that anybody would want to
take the Seahawks in any real sense?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But the probability is what do we say, everything lies
between zero and a hundred, and so if it's if
it's greater than zero, and it is, then you know,
I'll just be slightly concerned until we see the intent
of somebody that we're to acquire the Seahawks. And you know,
particularly when you start saying, well, it's not just domestic markets,
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whether it's London or in Mexico City, I mean I
think that certainly Roger Goodella has indicated his desire to
grow the sport. I don't want the Seahawks to be
the inaugural franchise over the overseas, right, And you're.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Not you're not worried about that at all?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, You're probability is so low, but you know I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Of course, of course, Hugh, there's a chance that Michelle
leaves you for me. Okay, it's not zero and it's
not one hundred, but there's a chance. Yeah, I'd be
more concerned about your wife leaving you for me than
the Seahawks playing in London.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
By the way, again, that's fair, Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, I'm yeah, I think that the metaphysical certainty limits
have just been reached.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Well, Hugh, I want to get your take on how
much the Seahawks passed rush has improved since the last
time we talked to you because the addition of Dante Fowler.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, I've watched a lot of Tapa.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Dante Fowler been in the league for a bit, but
he's only thirty one years old. Remember now, in the
rotation for the Seahawks, you know, they had you know,
d Law and Nuosu kind of the older guys, and
then you know, Derek Hall and Mafey were the young
you know. So this beautiful four man rotation with with
what I would call the young guys Mafe and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Them coming in.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And so I would say that now you look and
see what was the what Mafey brought you And he
was maybe the twitchiest pass rusher of the four, the
least capable against the run. Uh So Mafe had and
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fifty nine snaps last year, Fouler three fifty eight. The
win rate for Mafay it was seventeen point four percent
versus Fowler fourteen point one percent. On the ESPN Pass
Rush win ranking, Fowler was thirtieth, Mafey was eighth ranked.
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But you've got a guy, Uh, there's a similarity there
coming off the right side, where Mafey was sixty one
percent of his snaps, we're at right end with Fowler
sixty nine percent. So having that, you know, that open it,
you know, going against the left tackle. Now the tape
that I watched, you know, for the entirety of the
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season last year, watching Fowler with the Cowboys, I thought
that he got better as the season went along. I
mean those first few weeks, you know, I don't know
what injury or what situation he had, but he had
more moves.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He had some in and out. He was ripping and
trying to turn the corner more. Early on, I was saying, Okay,
this is a speed to power guy. So so he's
gonna line up wide, He's going to try and remember
now he's an athlete that you know, a third overall.
Picking the draft coming out of Florida. So there was
a thought about him being an elite level traits guy.
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And so when you walk you throw on the tape,
you say, okay, I see, you know, a big dude
who's got a pretty good burst coming off. And then
he but but he doesn't believe in his ability to
turn the corner to truly try and beat the tackle
to the edge and try and get around him, you know,
rip his inside arm and turn the corner and get
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to the quarterback. He's more of a guy that wants
to start as if he's going to do that and
then convert speed to power and turn it into a
bull rush with the tackle off off of his balance.
And where there was effectiveness, it was primarily that. As
the season went along, I saw more moves inside, more
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you know, spin, move here or there, you know, ability
to try and turn the corner. So I thought that
he got better through the Now his three sacks are
all useless. You're gonna hear three sacks, just take it
from me. Ene of these matter he had. He chased
Mahomes down from the right side all the way to
the left sideline on a on a and six point
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two seconds after the ball was snapped. That's the NFL's
official category against a booty. Against the Cardinals, he was
totally unblocked running quarterback ran right into him. And then
he had a fast sack against the Jets two point
one seconds, But that was going against a running back
where the tackle blocked down on a play action and
all he had to do was run through the running
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back like a traffic cone.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He did, and he got the sack.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
On on the Jet quarterback two point one seconds also
at an event. That's that's kind of the rough summary
of what was on tape.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
This sounds awfully familiar to the conversation we had last
offseason about DeMarcus Lawrence Bingo.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was gonna mention that I'm glad that you you
recognize that. Yeah, yeah, because he had I think he
had three sacks uh D law and and and there.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
You know, there's kind of a a tepid.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Assessment and and you know that, which is why the
league speaks. I mean, we're talking about a defensive end
with trades. You know, he's gonna have high value and
uh and and and so for five million. You know,
there's a lot of similarities where they say, Okay, the
league doesn't think a great deal of this guy. But
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then you got Mike McDonald who says, you know what,
I know, I know how to use this dude. And
of course Adam Dirday having coached him at Dallas, there's
that connection. He knows his personality and knows, you know,
much more of the the vicissitudes of his of his
game and what they can lean on and what they
need to steer away from. So they're gonna have a plan.
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And uh, you know, I just believe in the dudes
that are making decision. In written you on the other.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Side of the ball, I don't think i've gotten your
take on on Harrison Brian yet. Is he a guy
that can help or is he just a guy that
might not even make the team?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I gotta I'm not going to just shoot from the
hip on the we'll go, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Don't we have a more for on Monday?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It is.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I feel I'll save it. Let's just table that, why
don't we? Well, then then let's get to the next one.
Because I remember talking to you a few weeks ago
or a week ago or so after the draft and
asking you, all, right, where are they deficient?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And you said edge Rusher.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, they seemingly have maybe not fixed it, but they've
addressed it with Dante Fowl, or they've addressed their secondary.
They've addressed I think at least competition for Bradford at guard.
Where are they deficient right now? You think on their
roster if they are.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Uh And and by the way, I think that if
you're you're talking about the defensive ends, just remember this name.
You've heard it before. I just want to remind Jared Ivy.
I think that that internally they really feel like this
is a dude that can come on. So let's see
if that emerges. You know, in a similar manner, they
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think aj Finley at safety really is ready for a jump.
And so they've got some guys in the building. I
think the Seahawks were number one in the NFL. Don't
quote me on that, but I thought that I had
learned that they were number one in the NFL with
twenty four rookies in the building last year. You know,
obviously with practice squad and everything, and so they like
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their ability to have scouted those guys right and to
have developed those guys behind the scenes on the practice squad,
and they have an eye on those guys. You know,
I'm not sitting here telling you that that they think
twenty two guys can play. But of the twenty four,
if they say, hey, here's two or three or four
guys that that are going to surprise you of the
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twenty four, that gives you some confidence that maybe there
are some people in in you know, in the building
that are ready to pop. But answering your question, I
you know, they they got a running back in the
first round. I think that was their primary need. As
you said, they got the h The competition that at
right guard is very interesting because you got a first
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team All American who is judged to have been, you know,
deficient in physical traits. That's somewhat like Olua Timmy right
at center right who won that the remanton.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Was the reason why he fell, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, and he's also an Outland Trophy win right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So, so the athletic traits are concerned, I would say
the age of the defensive line in some key areas,
you know, when are you going to see a drop off?
It's likely that that one of them. If you just
play the odds, you know, you got Leonard Williams over thirty,
and you got Nuosu, and you got obviously d Law
and you've got now you've acquired Fowler.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Like, somebody's going to hit a.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Wall and we don't know who it's going to be,
but somebody's gonna likely to have had a disappointing season
in twenty twenty six among that group. So I don't
think they're at an A plus level going into camp
at defensive end. But you got a coach that that
doesn't need a plus D A plus defensive ends. I've
referenced it many times with the Ravens. His last year's
the defense coordinator Mike McDonald. He had that defense lead
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the NFL and sacks despite having defensive ends that were
both over thirty and both on at least their fifth team,
which is the definition of a journeyman and so and
yet they won. They led the NFL and sacks. So
McDonald knows how to take some of these older guys
and put them in a rotation and let each guy
perform their skill set, keep them away from their their weaknesses,
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and find a way to, you know, on the aggregate,
play great defense. He's done it before Seattle. He's done
it with Seattle. There's no reason to believe he's not
going to do it this season.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So you feel pretty confident in the back end.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I mean, they went hard to draft these guys in
the back end, I mean Julie and Neil and Bud
Clark and even later on down with Fuller. And what
does that mean for the guys that were here, Like
a guy like Tyle Kotta, for example, I thought was
pretty good last year and played a lot last year.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, is he getting pushed out?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I don't think he's getting pushed out. I think he'll
take the first rep of training camp. But I think
Bud Clark, uh yeah, I mean, you know, bet Clark
was a three year captain. I mean, guy played like
five years. He's got a ton of experience, and obviously
he's a better athlete than Okada. But you know, so
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it was just about everybody on the on the roster.
Ocata's I'm doing it by you know, just toughness and
guile and technique and what have you. But but yeah,
I would say that's that's right. Nobody's just be surprised
if Bud Clark wins the starting job, either in training
camp or at some point before or Halloween, right, because
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he's that much experience, he was drafted that highly and
and he's got that skill set. He's a superior athlete.
So now it's just a case of is he going
to uh uh, you know, learn the sex system. I
mean if if you go back to a year ago
and you say, Okay, what were we saying about nick
em and worry, Well, I'll tell you what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I remember visit vividly, just watching his South Carolina tape.
He was better.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
His best attribute was playing in the curl flat closer
to the line of scrimmage. So did not like him
in the uh uh, in the back end as a
back end safety. He didn't think his instincts, his movement
was great. But but let him be in a curl
flat and he can cover ground use that athleticism.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I wasn't overwhelmed with his hammer, Like I'm not seeing
the cam chance or wow hit where you're libel to
just the force of the of the violence is liable
to just produce a fumble because it's so violent. You know,
didn't see that. Guess what didn't see that?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
With the Seahawks, either, but he was a great freaking player.
They played unless I think eight or nine snaps in
the back end. They kept them at the line of scrimmage.
They he essentially was a nickel. Sam said that all year,
and and and yet he outplayed what what people projected
in part because of Mike McDonald.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Mike McDonald knows.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
How to teach, He knows how to put people around
him to make him, let him do the things that
that that plays that allows him to be successful. So
I think Bud Clark you can expect some really cool
stuff out of him. Uh Dick inclusioning as you said,
julian Neal, you know those are two of your top
three draft picks at positions that that the coaching staff
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is extraordinary at getting, you know, maximizing the potential.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I love it, all right, listen, great stuff. All right,
we'll talk on Monday at four, all right, but I'm
to do the weekend, all right. You'remailing with us, We're
gonna break. We're shifting things around today. Tony astra Cone
will join us at six, So Little you make the
call next at.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Four nine, four five one get him in now.
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Speaker 3 (22:24):
We're back kind of busy Friday. Tony Casherkel will join
us at six. That means we're doing You make the call.
You make the call right now, four nine four five one.
Your chance to decide the content of the radio show.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You decide what the hell we talk about?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Man, I mean, you got people always asking us, you
know what, you guys never talk about blah blah blah. Well,
you know what, Now is your chance to make sure
we talk about blah blah blah. Four nine four or
five one to coma dots text line. What do you want?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
People were liking when we were talking crap about Jared
Kelnick so.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Ko.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
People wanted to continue that. A person said, Jared Kel
is a head case. Continued to say, also, in my book,
Adrian Beltray is not a Hall of Famer after what
happened in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah wow, So he was that poor in Seattle that
he played himself right out of the Hall of Fame.
Did Adrian Beltray have three thousand hits in his career,
by the way, I think he did. Yeah, he's in
the Hall of Fame. Guys, there's a lot of great
players that played for the Mariners and underachieved. I got
news for you when they were here in Seattle. So
I don't know what that guy's talking about. But Adrian
(23:28):
Beltray absolutely is a Hall of Famer, for sure.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
I agree, And I think Adrian Beltray struggles in Seattle
directly and it's not like he was terrible, but they
are directly attributed to that ballpark. I mean, he was
a gap, right handed hitter, and that gap you go
to die at safecoat slash t mobile And as soon
as he got out of that gap, look what he
did in Texas. He's all over the place man home
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run numbers, RBI numbers, everything spiked.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Guys do that in Texas right when they go play
for them. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look,
that's an interesting way to decide whether or not a
guy is a Hall of Famer. When he played for
my team, he's stunk so the hell with him. I
actually like that idea. Tell the writers to pick up
on that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You make the call.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Last Baseball one because just because Dick will be very
happy about this book.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm with Dick on the hatred.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Kyle Seger only hit when we were up five or
down time?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is that true? But Kyle Seger solo shot down five
to one? It seemed like it.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
I remember, I remember vividly up there, even saying before
at bats because it happened so much. Well, now's the
time when Kyle hits a home run and there it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Find a better player in Marita baseball history that Dick
hates more than Kyle Seeger, there is none.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He is the best.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't know what he ever did to you, honestly,
like you would love to have Kyle Seeger playing third
base for this baseball team right now, defens, you would
love to have Kyle Seeker and his bat and his back.
I think you'd take the whole thing. Yeah, but you'd
like Kyle Sieger more. Trust me. Come on, Dick, you
would take Kyle Seager right now in his.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Prime with this lineup? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
First five years of Kyle Seger I would absolutely take
it was. And really I didn't dislike Kyle Sieger. I
think he did until after he got the contract because
his struggles in Seattle directly coincided with signing that. It was.
I think it was the first, yeah, one hundred million
dollars deal in Mariner's history.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Well, like I said, he was thirty one years old
when he signed that contract. Don't blame him for them
giving it to him, right, I mean a lot of
teams would have said, no, you're too old, We're not
going to do that, and the Mariners gave him a contract. So,
I mean, I'm a big Kyle Seager fan. I love
Kyle Seager. I love the fact that he's a gamer,
love the fact that he had an attitude when he
was here. I think he was a great clubhouse leader.
He was an unbelievable defense of third baseman. He was gritty.
(25:55):
I got no problems with Kyle Seeger at all from
his time in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
None. All right, what's you make the call? Okay?
Speaker 9 (26:02):
And then a lot and I mean a lot of
texts on the U dub Big ten move and thoughts
on where we are after that, A right person says,
I understand why you Dub went to the Big ten,
but I never liked it. I would rather be a
big fish in a small pond, even if the PAC
twelve was considered lesser.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right now, Well, there's a lot of people that agree
with that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I mean, I think my senses and this is only
a sense obviously that as time goes by, Dick, it'll
bear out to be the right move by U Dub
to make the movie The Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean I can argue with being a big
fish in a small pond. If the PAC twelve would
have remained the PAC twelve, sure, and we still would
have had at multiple automatic spots. Even if it doesn't
get the buzz of the big ten of the SEC gets.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, you know what, we never.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Got the buzz that the Big ten of the SEC
got all through me growing up. So I'm used to
not getting the buzz of the Big ten of the SEC.
But the fact of the matter is that it wasn't
going to continue to be like course the minute UCLA
and USC left right. It was never going to be that,
so you had to do it.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, I think again, there is an argument to be made.
I would not go as far as to say you
had to do it. I do think it was the
right move, But I do think there is an argument
to be made to wait and see what you dubbed
could have been if they had stayed in the PAC
twelve with Oregon, and the two of them would have
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been like Miami and Clemson and the ACC just fighting
each other for a conference championship every year because everything
else stinks, Right, Like, you would have had Oregon and
you dub at the top of the mountain in the
PAC twelve and they would have been the clear favorites
every single year to win that conference. So again, I'm
(27:55):
with you that I still think this will because this
is about money right now. College foot is a money
driven business, and the money Washington's making in the Big
ten dwarfs what they would have made in the in
the PAC twelve. I think a lot of people have
a bad habit of comparing what you dubb is making
to Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State and not
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comparing it to what they would have made if they
would have stayed in the old conference. Look, if you
want to say that you dub is going to have
a tougher time winning because they're fifth or sixth on.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The money tree.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Okay, I can see that, but it still is more
than what you would have had access to with the
old deal.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Got way more bites than the Apple being in the
Big ten. I mean bites at the playoff right, way more.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
By the way, what we were fearful of happening to
Hancock is exactly happening to Handcock right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
All right, what's next, Dome, you make the call.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
Oh, this one's gonna make everybody happy. And nobody met
on the text line. Teams like Washington State complained because
it was not them. If they were in that situation,
they would never have looked back.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Being in this car sets us up for the future. Yeah,
I think there are a thousand percent right.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
If the Big ten called right now, they'd be cogs
come to the Big of course, of course.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And they admit that, right, they admit that, some of them, Yes,
Sue Cougar fans, Krusty Cougar fans admit that.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Ian Furness, krusty. Yes, they admit that because they're bitter.
That's why, I mean, what do you think, Dick, Honestly, like,
if you got your balls kicked in, you'd be bitter too,
probably a little bit of logical. I'd be the same way.
I'd be irrational, I'd be a logical, i'd be bitter.
I'd be all those things if I were then. But
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anybody who says they would not. If Washington on that
day said hey, we'll do this, but we got to
take our little brother with us, every Cougar fan would
have said, when do I get ready? What time is
the uber picking me up? Because we're taking off with you?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Time for one more?
Speaker 7 (29:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You make the call?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Think you mentioned about Apple this two of six says
it was not just Apple. The games were also going
to be behind a one hundred dollars paywall like MLS.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
We had to move to the big ten. I'd forgotten
that would have been of course.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I mean it's your you're you're paying for it on
top of what you're paying for right. This isn't Flip
on ESPN, it's not flip on CBS, it's not flip
on NBC. And I don't think the PAC twelve has
the juice to get people to commit that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, I mean, and really, who's going to watch the
PAC twelve?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Now?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
I mean PAC twelve like if there's a legit PAC
twelve after dark, I'll watch that starting on it with
the new with the new PAC twelve conference. But is
anybody gonna flip on a PAC twelve game at one
o'clock on a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Especially if it costs an extra under right? Get it right?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I mean not when there's so many other great games
going on around the country.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think it would have been a bad idea. And
what I laugh at is people that say, you know what,
you could have been pioneers. You could have been ahead
of the game. Okay, when every other conference is ready
to go stream only they'll just flip the switch. I mean,
it's not like you're gonna have a patent right that
everybody else is going to have to pay your royalties for.
(31:06):
Every other conference is already streaming in some form or
fashion already. They just know that society, especially American sports fans,
are not ready to just consume sports over the internet
and on an app. It'll happen and what it will
happen eventually, And what games are they putting on streaming.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
They're not putting Ohio State Michigan on stream, and they're
putting Minnesota Isle on streaming.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And why is that?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Because you're getting paid millions of dollars multi tens of
millions of dollars a year by these companies to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All right, we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
We have an update on maybe the best picture in
the Mariners organization. Next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
All right, we're back. I kind of busy Friday. Tony
cash kelill join us. Next segment right here on ninety
three three KJRFM. I just noticed, by the way, the
Arkansas Travelers have a double header today against the Tulsa Drillers.
Anybody see who pitched in game one today for Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I did let the cat out of the bag. Unless
you go ahead, Frae, that would be Cad Anderson. You
got his box score from today not complete? I saw
it in progress by score, Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Five and two thirds two hits, one run, one walk,
nine k's.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He did allow a bomb today.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
He is now down to a point six ERA, forty
seven k's, five walks, and a point six six seven
whip so far for Double A Arkansas. Now here's the thing.
He's twenty one years old. He'll be twenty two in July.
He's only throwed thirty innings in the minor leagues. Logan
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Gilbert when he came up by the way from Triple Tacoma.
He had because he had a rehab assignment last year
with nine innings down there, so get those out of there.
Logan Gilbert threw about one hundred and forty innings the
Miners when he made his debut in the big leagues,
and he was twenty four. This guy's twenty one. He's
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only thrown thirty innings in the minor leagues. So I
don't think that the Mariners necessarily want to bring him
up yet, Dick. I think they'd like to give him
maybe a little more seasoning the way that Logan Gilbert
and those other guys got Like I'm looking at George
Kirby was twenty four, Logan was twenty four, Brian Wu
was twenty three, Bryce Miller was twenty four when he
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came up George Kirby in the minor leagues if you
don't include his rehab assignments as well, he had one
hundred and seventeen innings in the minor leagues before he
came up. And this guy's only thrown thirty. But he
may force the issue for them, especially if somebody else
gets banged up and they have an opening. I mean,
Emerson Hancock was number one. This guy's one a man.
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He is legit.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, I think the comp to Gilbert and guys like
Kirby are a little bit off for Anderson just because
those guys went to Stetson and Elon.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean Anderson's.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Meaning what that because he went to LSU, we faced
better pitches hitting.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean he pitched in the World Series.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
He pitched against the SEC, you know, and so I
think a better comp not saying that Kate Anderson is
going to be this guy.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
First of all, let me just interrupt you for a second.
I'm not even done yet with the comparisons. I just
did logan Gilbert and George Kirby.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
First. I haven't gotten to Brian. We haven't gotten a
brace Miller yet.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
But I'm just saying that that is like one fifth
of what those guys did in.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I'm going to use the comp to Paul Skins, same college,
basically the same spot in the draft and Paul Skins
through thirty four innings in the minor league.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, that's why I just said he may force the issue.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's exactly my point that he's he may be that
good that they may have no choice but to bring
this guy up now right now. They don't need the
guy right right now. They've got Emerson. Hancock up until
today was killing it. Obviously, they've got options. They don't
need to force the issue with Kate Anderson. Like Brian
Wu through one hundred and fifteen innings in the minor
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leagues before he came up. Actually again get rid of
the rehab starts about one hundred and five innings in
the minor leagues. But I don't remember these guys doing
what Kate Anderson's doing right now. That's the difference. I mean,
he is just dominating double A. And the other thing
that I would mention that we've mentioned many times before,
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that would be in the win column, in the check
column for Kate Anderson. Jerry Depoto's got a habit of
bringing guys right up from Double A Arkansas. He did
it with Brian Wu. I believe he did it with
George Kirby as well. I think he did it with
Bryce Miller. I'm thinking that Logan had a shortstop in
Tacoma before he came up. Uh, Kirby made one start
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in Tacoma before he came up after making five starts
in Double A in twenty twenty two, so basically made
the jump from Double A Arkansas. I'm just trying to
come up with a reason why Kate Anderson would not
be brought up yet. And the only thing I can
look at is the is the amount of innings he's
thrown so far in the minor leagues. Everything else reeks
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of a guy that is ready to go, and something
that Jerry Depoto has no problem doing because he's done
it before.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, and if he was on the Pittsburgh Pirates like
Skens was, I'd be up within the month.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's part of it, exactly. They had no there's no reason,
not nobody blocking the guys exactly. I don't have our rotation.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I mean, best case for me, what I want to
see is I want to see September call up. I
want to see the Mariners already six games up in
the division and give him a couple of starts in September,
rest somebody, maybe go to a six man rotation in
September to rest some of your arms, and then if
he really looks good in September, is it a possibility
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that Kate Anderson's in your bullpen in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, here's the thing, guys, somebody else is getting hurt.
I got news for you, right, This is the way
baseball works. But you need two guys to get hurt
to bring Kate right. But somebody else there may be
two guys. That's my whole point, that you may have
a situation this year where you have an opening for
him and that somebody else obviously may be out and
you may have no choice. I just think it's worth
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keeping an eye on because he's not eighteen years old.
He pitched in college. Paul Skeins was twenty one years
old and three hundred and forty eight days, so he
was a lot closer to twenty two than twenty one
when he made his debut.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
CAD's going to be twenty two in two months. From now.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
So he's getting closeh He's getting close to where Paul
Skeins was man, but man thirty innings in the minor leagues.
And I think your gut is probably right that if
Pittsburgh had the Marin rotation, they're not doing that right.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
But we don't want to see him till September really honestly, right,
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Imagine we aren't that injured.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
I think all the conversations we're having right now about
what do you do in Millicom's back that's going to
go to one hundred and fifty miles per hour when
Kate Anderson's doing this, and we're thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Gosh, we got him in September, and what do we
do with the rotation.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I wonder if they'll make him put him into coma
or if they'll just let him stay in Double A Arkansas.
They might feel like he might even be seeing in
some ways kind of better players down there in Double A.
Brian Wu threw one hundred and fifteen innings in the
minor leagues before they call him up, So yeah, I
mean it'd be a little bit different, right, breaking from
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tradition a little bit as far as how many innings.
Jerry likes these guys to throw in the miners. But
as we said, he may have no choice because this
kid may force his arm. He may twist his arm
to bring him up. Simon later, man, I would love
to see him in Tacoma.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Man, I want to see him in triple We can
go down there, do our show, stick around.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Watch the really Yeah, well we saw Ryan Anderson down there.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
One.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I'm Kate Anderson. Now are we're going to break? Tony
castor Cone joins next on ninety three to three kJ RFM.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
There's a snap, holds it out. He's gonna run.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Demand william straight ahead, twenty fifteen speed to the left side,
ten fun into the left pilot Is he in waiting
for the signal?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Two UKs up?
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Touchdown Washington twenty five yards to Mont Williams just hit
the be button and angled off to the left as
Demond Williams scamper's into the end zone for his fifth
rushing touchdown of the year.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
All right, Tony Castra Cone with us on the radio show, Tony,
I meant at four o'clock Pacific time, by the way,
is what we were asking about. I'm sorry it wasn't
more clear on that. So thanks for doing this.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's okay, no problem. It could be with
you guys.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Hey, stuff happens, man, You know what, I get it.
As long as you're okay, the family's okay, then we're
all good to go.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Man.
Speaker 10 (39:51):
So well, yeah, yeah, stuff happens, like stuff being like,
you know, you're kind of on vacation, and you know,
I thought I was just going to well, I won't
use any brand names because I don't know who your
sponsors are, but just a quick run to the big
box retailer here in town, right. Thought it was going
to take me fifteen minutes. And then the wife decides
(40:13):
she wants to come along, and she's got a broken foot,
and we got yeah, and then and then we also
take along my wife's eighty eight year old grandmother, and
so I'm like, all right, we still got plenty of time.
But it's a big store, and people get lost, and
then you got to go to customer service and you
got to say their names over the pa wow, all
(40:36):
the things to try to wrangle the the crew back together.
And then I left my phone in the car, and
by the time I came back, I was like, oh, crap,
oh crap.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay, well we got to ask you the wife or
the grandma that got lost.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
We're the kid who got lost, grandma.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The grandma, grandma.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Okay, Well, what you could have done is you could
have jumped because your classic call, your classic sign off,
which we all know by now what that is. You
should have jumped on the pa and said, Selena, I'm
going home. Okay, that's what.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You should have said, and then maybe she would have
found out where how you were. I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, we were glad that everybody's back together again. But
Tony casher Cone is with us on the radio show
Let's keep a view from forty thousand feet. Your thoughts
on what you took away from the spring ball in
the game last Friday.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
Man, Yeah, you know, I thought it was a really
productive spring I thought it was great to get to
kind of see.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Some guys that you heard a lot about but didn't know.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
What they would look like in purple and gold. And
you know, I mean, I think some of these freshmen
just look so just years beyond their age, right, I Mean,
you're just so impressed with Cody Green, Derek Coleman, Brusa,
Ramzach Fruin comes in, he's ready to go. Three freshmen,
true freshman wide receivers that should all still be seniors
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at their high school from SEC Country right, one from Texas,
one from Louisiana, one from Oklahoma. All of them had
moments where they flashed and looked incredible. So I think
that's kind of the part that was really fun. You're like, oh,
I could totally see a half dozen, eight, maybe ten
of these guys like playing meaningful reps in the Apple
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Cup on September fifth. So I think that's the part
that excited me the most, you know, getting familiar with
just you know where some of these guys are going
to fit in from a position standpoint. You know, it's
still going to be interesting to see the competition for
running back, you know where they're going to place some
(42:33):
pieces at wide receiver. I think the offensive line is
starting to kind of gel together a little bit, but
you still didn't have the hatchets out there, so you
don't know what happens once you throw them back into
the mix. But I just think like the offense is
starting to look exciting to me, and I'm already sold
on the defense.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
I think the defense is going to be really good.
Speaker 10 (42:51):
I think they had like kind of a low key,
like one of the best defenses in the country last year,
but you know, I think there were times in some
of those big games where the offense just couldn't quite
come through Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon. You just need
a little bit more out of that side of the ball.
And I think we saw that they're deeper and they're.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
Forwards.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
So now it's just going to come down to winning
fourth quarters, right, Like, I mean, can you do that? First,
you know, on September fifth and the Apple Cup, and
then after that, you know, hopefully you don't have a
four quarter game in the next two weeks. Then you
got a home game against Minnesota, and then it just
gets real at USC six days later home against Iowa,
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and I just think in November, you know, you're just
going to have hopefully some really exciting fourth quarters, and
hopefully the Huskies are able to win some of those,
you know, that stretch at home against Penn State, you know,
you got Indiana at home and closing out the season
at or. It's just really compelling schedule this year and
I'm super excited to see how it all unfolds.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Well, Tony, I'm with you on the defense. I mean,
I think it's going to be fantastic this year, But
are there any stars? I mean, Ryan Walter's second year
at Missouri, Tigers went down from twenty five points to
nineteen points. Second year in Illinois they went from twenty
two down to what twelve point seven? I mean, the
Huskies could be down in that fourteen or fifteen point
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per game range in Walter's second year. But who are
the guys that are gonna do it? Or are they
just gonna kind of do it like the Seahawks did.
I mean other than you know, Spoon and maybe even Worth.
I mean, there wasn't a lot of superstars on the
Seahawks defense last year.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
So the way I think about the defense is this
the points per game metric. A lot of that is
going to come down to complimentary football. The offense is
going to have to help them out in order for
that number to.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Be as low as possible.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
But I don't think that this defense is going to
give up a ton of points. Like I just last
year they gave up at most twenty six against o'pringain
and that was the third lowest knack that they had
allowed in all of college football. Like the only other
two teams that had a lower max last year we're
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Indiana and Ohas State. So that's kind of like what
you're talking about, like when you're saying, what's kind of
the ceiling as far as what the defense is going
to allow and can your offense go out and beat that?
Washington was third in the nation in that last year.
So now the question is, you know, okay, what can
the defense do to help compliment the offense? I think
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last year we saw them be really really good and
fundamentally sound in every area, except they weren't a super explosive.
They didn't create as many havocs as I would have
liked to see. You know, some of that's going to
come down to who are those stars going to be
getting after the quarterback?
Speaker 7 (45:42):
You know, there's a very very.
Speaker 10 (45:45):
Experienced linebacking course, So if they do decide to rush
five at times, right, you know, who are those inside
linebackers going to be that are able to crack through
and get a quarterback sack? We already know about some
of the names off the edge, you know, Isaiah Ward,
Jacob Blaine, Will Russell, Davis be a guy that's available
this year. Ramzach Fruin is a rising star freshman. So
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those are some of those guys from those places. But
then in the secondary, you know, I just want to
see more turnovers. I really want to see them force
more turnovers. They got through a twelve game regular season
only forcing fourteen turnovers. They had five in the bowl game,
which kind of haded the stats a little bit. But
you know, I think coming up with those interceptions, and
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it's not a league where you're always going to face
teams that are going to throw the ball a lot
or put the ball in danger when they do throw
the football, so you're not always going to have those opportunities.
But just turnovers on downs three and outs, interceptions, fumbles forced,
all those sorts of things.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
That's really what I want to see.
Speaker 10 (46:48):
And I think Alex mclo we already saw last year
Alex McLoughlin like he's riable for some of those.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
But can we then to kind of step up there.
Speaker 10 (46:58):
Ryland Dillard Allen is a guy that I just I'm
really hot. Rashaan Clark could be a candidate, just start
at nickel. Could he get his hands on a few.
That's really the thing that I think is the next
step for the defense.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
They got to start definitely forcing the issue with turnovers,
and they're gonna have to do it without price socking
Davis right, which is going to be hard to do.
But Tony Castro cones with us on the radio show,
and Tony, you mentioned the running back room there, and
I'm kind of intrigued by this Quaid car kid because
I looked at his high school numbers and eleven hundred
yards rushing in high school as a senior doesn't sound
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like a lot, but when you realize it was on
eighty carries, it does. The guy averaged thirteen yards of
carry as a senior. And it sounds like, either because
of injuries that are going on now or just his talent,
that this guy might have a shot to maybe be
RB one by the Apple Cup.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 10 (47:49):
Yeah, I think there's First of all, he's a Servit kid,
and Servit's been really good to Jed the programs right
when you just think about the talent that they got
to go from there to Arizona and Jacob Manu now
a Washington Husky, but they really trust that connection. Scottie
(48:10):
Graham absolutely loves him. Some of the folks on the
recruiting staff that I talked to absolutely love him. They
think he could be the next star at the UDUW.
So like, when I hear those guys talk about him
that way, I believe them because normally that kind of
comes through. The One thing is it's a very crowded room, right,
you know, I mean, we don't know what the story
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is going to be with Jordan Washington. Obviously he was
kind of the incumbent, the guy that well, I mean
not just Jordan Washington, but if you really think about it,
the three most experienced college football players at that running
back position on the Husky roster, none of them played
right in camp. Jordan Washington went down with the injury,
Shade Lamar and then Trey Cooley. Those guys were injured
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as well. They're incoming transfers, and so you know that's
really interesting. You know, you've got all these super young players.
An Susineau looked really good, Brian Bonner.
Speaker 7 (49:03):
Is highly tauted.
Speaker 10 (49:04):
Like they got so many bodies in that room, but
they've only got so many carries to go around, And
so I think it might be a little bit situation
like they might not have a thousand yard rusher this year.
You know, Jonah Coleman hit that mark two years ago.
They might not have that guy. They might go more
situational with a bunch of the different bodies that they have.
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But I certainly think that, like you look at kway
Car and he's going to have the potential to be
that super explosive player not just running the football, but
also catching the ball out of the backfield as well.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Well, I'd probably a wager that they're not going to
have a thousand yard receiver either, But they have a
lot of guys. I think we like Desmond Roebuck in
the slot. I think we like Rashid Williams. But I mean,
who steps up and becomes that go to guy that
you need to hit down the field.
Speaker 10 (49:54):
Yeah, you know, I think that's kind of the big
battle that's going to go on in fall camp. I
just think Jordan Clay, the true freshman out of San Antonio.
Speaker 7 (50:04):
He really flashed and they really.
Speaker 10 (50:06):
Love him, and they got him to go to Washington
over a ton of offers. They had him flip on
commitment day from Baylor to U dub You know, I
think Tres Davis is another guy that had a ton
of offers and they feel really excited about his potential.
Chris Lawson is a player that I thought looked pretty
good towards the end of last season. I think he
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played in eight games last year, and as the season
war on, they started to trust him with a few
more players. Had that explosive against UCLA. So you know,
there's gonna be a lot of candidates for that position.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
But it's really the first time in like four or.
Speaker 10 (50:42):
Five years where we go into the season right not
knowing who that person's going to be.
Speaker 7 (50:47):
So that's what makes it kind of exciting.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Tony Casher coming with us, Tony, do me a favorite?
Can you just look around and make sure that grandma
is near you. I just want to make sure she
hasn't wandered off.
Speaker 7 (50:57):
Okay, everybody's in the house.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Good, but he's.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
All right.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Well, the one guy that we haven't talked about yet,
and honestly, we haven't spent a lot of time talking
about him as a player lately, and that's Number one
who's now Demon Williams. By the way, first Husky quarterback
to wear number one since Warren Moon. We've seen players
wear number one, John Ross, Reggie Williams, players like that
before of warn number one, defense Byron Murphy war number
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one obviously, but it's the first quarterback in you know,
fifty whatever years that we've seen wear number one. And
to me, there's I mean, longtime Husky fan like me,
there's some significance in that that's a special number that
Demond Williams is wearing. So what are you seeing, if
anything out of Demond Williams that gives you any idea,
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whether positive or negative about the step or lack thereof,
that he'll take this year.
Speaker 10 (51:51):
Well, I think he's got all the talent in the
it can he take that big step from a leadership
stand point and from a mastery of the offense and
from decision making. That's what it's going to come down to.
Because he can make all the throws he can, he
can win all those you know, foot races in open field.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
He's got good vision. Now it's just come down to.
Speaker 10 (52:17):
Only noticed as I was prepping for the string game,
but looking back at the play by play logs, like
all eight of Demond Williams interceptions last year were on
first down, right not that there's ever a good time
to have an interception, but you know, third down on
a long bomb down the field is it doesn't hurt
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you quite as bad as the first play of the drive, right,
you know, I mean those sort of things.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
So can you just get him to maybe you.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
Know, I don't know, Like I'm sure Jed and him
are totally in sync on they've watched the tape.
Speaker 7 (52:52):
They know what they want to do. But if it's
an issue with taking just a tad too big of.
Speaker 10 (52:57):
A risk on a first down play, like, can can
you grow out of that and just understand the situation?
Speaker 7 (53:03):
You know?
Speaker 10 (53:04):
I think that what was interesting to me and I
totally get it was like showing up to camp and
it's early April, and it's the first time everybody on
the outside has had a chance to see demand, and
everybody's thinking like, well, how is this? Like are things
weird right now? But from the inside that was like
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old news. That's like ninety days ago, right and now
it's even older news because they've had fifteen practices together.
So I don't think they're going to have any personality
issues or anything like that, any any issues with like
that was weird what happened this past year. I think
it's just more gonna come down to you, like, can
he can he mature as a decision maker, as a leader,
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and all of those things, and so far everything that
everybody has.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
Had to say about him is absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
All right, listen, great stuff, keep an eye on gram,
all right, don't. It's a hard job, but somebody's got
to do it. We believe in you, great stuff, and
we'll see when you get back home.
Speaker 7 (54:06):
All right, it sounds great.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Get to Humillin right now. All right.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
We have not had Hugh on the air since the
story came out the other day about the ownership possibilities
for the Seattle Seahawks, and I desperately, desperately wanted to
have Hugh on that dayd said, nope, nope, nope, just
let it marinate. You'll get him on Friday, All Live
at five and we'll get huge thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Then let the people wait, Let.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
The people wait, let them rot, let them suffer, all right,
let them appreciate not having Hue on the air. Well
Sportico Hugh A couple of days ago. Yesterday actually reported
that Indian steel tycoon Aditya Mattal and current minority owner
of the Celtics Wick Grosbuck plus Sun Microsystems co founder
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vanad Colesla we're going to put in offers for the Seahawks.
And then today ESPN reported but they're kind of backtracking
here a little bit. This Canadian guy who is a
real estate and private equity mogul, Steve Apostelopolis no relation
to snuffle up Agus that he might be involved as well.
So when you hear these names and hear these possibilities, man, what.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Do you what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, I just want to see who's the most Jody
Allen and Paul Allen like, right, hey, you keep the
money flowing and stay the hell out of the way,
is really how you'd condense it in looking at them.
You know, the the GROSSPEC middle group they've got more
money twenty four billion. The coastla at more like fourteen billion,
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could be a factor. I kind of like that Grossbeck
was an owner of the Celtics. They won two titles,
and you know he by all accounts that I I've
been able to ascertain, he's kind of let Brad Stevens
do his thing now. He's not a Paul Allen, you know,
low profile guy. He's kind of the high energy, high
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energy superfan type, more along the lines of a Steve Balmer, right,
but I think I think there's something there concrete. As
far as Cosla, I'm not deterred by the fact that
you know, he's a three point one percent, I believe
owner of the forty nine ers, you know, and he's
from the Bay Area. You know, he's he's dipped his
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toe in being an owner. I'm sure you know some
people say, well, is I don't want anybody from the
forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I think if he's the majority owner of the Seahawks,
I think he's all in on the Seahawks. But you know,
in that sense, he probably be from a personality standpoint,
more like Paul Allen, obviously a tech guy and personality
stay out of the way. You know, the other guys,
you know, maybe they made their money and steel versus
tech kids, and you know, it's almost the contract contrast
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is obviously start. So anyway, I probably among that two groups.
Just what I've been able to ascertain slight leading to
Grossbeck middle but right, But I could be uh, I
could go along with the coast Ide really want Balmer
would be my first choice, But at any event, we'll
see how it plays out there. You know, both of
them are intriguing.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Well, your point is well taken about not you know,
the fans that wouldn't want a forty nine or owner.
Wait a second, does that mean you wouldn't want a
forty nine or free agent if he chose he'd rather
play in Seattle than play in San Francisco. I don't
think it's you just inserting logic right about that. So
what would be what would be a red flag? Either
pre sale red flag with one of the candidates or
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post sale where you were like, oh, this isn't good.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Well, I think unnecessarily meddling.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know, I think that they've got a pretty good
thing going on the football side, certainly for the Seahawks,
probably on the business side as well. But any meddling
that would turn off John Snyder and make him feel
compelled I'll just wait out my contract and then you know,
see who wants my services?
Speaker 7 (04:05):
Answer?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Probably just about every team in the NFL, maybe this
side of the Philadelphia Eagles with with with Roseman, right,
Howie Roseman. But but that would be the thing that
would concern me the most is the meddling on the
football side of it. And then if he can't if
they don't have the cash flow for some reason. Now
there's a strict thirty percent, you gotta have thirty percent
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of the value. These guys have that money. But if
for some reason they're cash flow with restrict you know,
let's say you sign a high profile quarterback and you
know high and you know, you know in the future,
sixty seventy eighty million dollars signing boss, and then they say, well, okay,
we gotta let's let's put a lid on spending. You know,
I'll only allow you, you know, twenty million or less
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for the remainder of our our acquisis. I'm just pulling
those numbers out. I mean, just if you can, if
you can lock in on the philosophy, you can quibble
then with the numbers. I don't want him any owner
allowing the Seahawks to be at a competitive disadvantage due
to cash flow.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, Well, the good news about John Schneider, Guys, unless
he just quits, I guess is he's locked in through
twenty thousand and thirty one.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I mean, he's got six years.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Left on his damp faster than you think, Oh, no doubt,
a young man six years is six years. I mean,
that's like him and McDonald are going to get a
shot to be together for eight seasons, which is awesome
if it does happen like that.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I think you and I Dave share this opinion. A factor,
let me use my words carefully, A factor for Kaylin
de Boor leaving for Alabama was Troy Dannon, right percent.
If you don't like your boss, then you know, of
course Dannon didn't hire him, so you know there we
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just don't want anybody involved on the on the football
side of things or any other side of things that
doing their job well right and then for some reason
they're put off stylistically or the constraints that maybe put
on all of that is you know, it would be conjecture,
but those are the kind of things that you're concerned about.
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I'm not sure how much of that we can nail
down right now, other than again, prospect. You know, he
was the owner of the Celtics when they won two championships,
and by all accounts he stayed the hell out of
the way from from Brests. That to me would be
enough for me to lean in that direction.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
Yeah, I mean, there's stories down there that will come
out later.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
I mean, whatever but people I didn't kind of know
that Troy Dannon was not a good fit at all
for U dub. I don't think people realize what a
dipstick this guy really was when he was here in Seattle.
And there's a lot of stories that are yet to
be told. We've told a lot. I've told the story
on the air view about how we tried to have
me and Dick thrown out of Jedfish's introductory press conference
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for simply going over his resume on the air. I mean,
the guy was a world class clown when he was
here in Seattle. And you're right, partially cost this hawks
or the Huskies Klin de boor. I'm not saying he
were a state of jen was here, but they would
have had a much better shot.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
But Humil One's with us and Hugh.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I mean, look, obviously there's a shot that we could
have a new owner by September. And look, I mean,
nobody really knows for you sure, John Gonzano's been on
with us many times talking about the Allen estate and
what their job is. It sounds like they're just looking
for the biggest check they can find. I'm just hopeful
and maybe naively so that they do what you want,
right what you talked about, that they look for somebody
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who's going to run this thing the way Paul Allen
and Jody Allen would have wanted it run. And I
hope that they put in the effort to make that happen,
because getting billions of dollars to donate to charity is
not going to be a problem. They'll get their billions
of dollars to donate to charity, but getting a guy
to run this thing the way Paul did might be
a problem.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, well, we don't know. I'll speak for myself. I
don't know all of the details of the terms of
his will and whether or not terms can be enforced
in the contract of the sale. I would be interested in, Hey,
the team isn't going to be moved, you know. Obviously
Paul Allen lived through watching the Sonics depart, and as
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a native seattleite, I'm a sports fan. I would assume
that that on some level that that was of great
disappointment to him. So if if that's something that can
be ensured, that that would be something that would be
intriguing to me. I think twenty thirty one that's probably
isn't that the year that the seas lease ends at
the stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
I think it's a year earlier, but yeah around there. Okay, right,
well that's going to happen fast, right, sure. So Look,
do I have a fear that anybody would want to
take the Seahawks in any real sense?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But the probability is what do we say, everything lies
between zero and a hundred, and so if it's if
it's greater than zero, and it is, then you know,
I'll just be slightly concerned until we see the intent
of somebody that we're to acquire the Seahawks. And you know,
particularly when you start saying, well, it's not just domestic markets,
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whether it's London or in Mexico City, I mean I
think that certainly Roger Goodella has indicated his desire to
grow the sport. I don't want the Seahawks to be
the inaugural franchise over the overseas, right, And you're.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Not you're not worried about that at all?
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, You're probability is so low, but you know I don't.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Of course, of course, Hugh, there's a chance that Michelle
leaves you for me. Okay, it's not zero and it's
not one hundred, but there's a chance. Yeah, I'd be
more concerned about your wife leaving you for me than
the Seahawks playing in London.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
By the way, again, that's fair, Okay.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
Well, I'm yeah, I think that the metaphysical certainty limits
have just been reached.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
Well, Hugh, I want to get your take on how
much the Seahawks passed rush has improved since the last
time we talked to you because the addition of Dante Fowler.
Speaker 5 (10:04):
Yeah, I've watched a lot of Tapa.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Dante Fowler been in the league for a bit, but
he's only thirty one years old. Remember now, in the
rotation for the Seahawks, you know, they had you know,
d Law and Nuosu kind of the older guys, and
then you know, Derek Hall and Mafey were the young
you know. So this beautiful four man rotation with with
what I would call the young guys Mafe and.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Them coming in.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
And so I would say that now you look and
see what was the what Mafey brought you And he
was maybe the twitchiest pass rusher of the four, the
least capable against the run. Uh So Mafe had and
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fifty nine snaps last year, Fouler three fifty eight. The
win rate for Mafay it was seventeen point four percent
versus Fowler fourteen point one percent. On the ESPN Pass
Rush win ranking, Fowler was thirtieth, Mafey was eighth ranked.
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But you've got a guy, Uh, there's a similarity there
coming off the right side, where Mafey was sixty one
percent of his snaps, we're at right end with Fowler
sixty nine percent. So having that, you know, that open it,
you know, going against the left tackle. Now the tape
that I watched, you know, for the entirety of the
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season last year, watching Fowler with the Cowboys, I thought
that he got better as the season went along. I
mean those first few weeks, you know, I don't know
what injury or what situation he had, but he had
more moves.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
At the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
He had some in and out. He was ripping and
trying to turn the corner more. Early on, I was saying, Okay,
this is a speed to power guy. So so he's
gonna line up wide, He's going to try and remember
now he's an athlete that you know, a third overall.
Picking the draft coming out of Florida. So there was
a thought about him being an elite level traits guy.
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And so when you walk you throw on the tape,
you say, okay, I see, you know, a big dude
who's got a pretty good burst coming off. And then
he but but he doesn't believe in his ability to
turn the corner to truly try and beat the tackle
to the edge and try and get around him, you know,
rip his inside arm and turn the corner and get
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to the quarterback. He's more of a guy that wants
to start as if he's going to do that and
then convert speed to power and turn it into a
bull rush with the tackle off off of his balance.
And where there was effectiveness, it was primarily that. As
the season went along, I saw more moves inside, more
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you know, spin, move here or there, you know, ability
to try and turn the corner. So I thought that
he got better through the Now his three sacks are
all useless. You're gonna hear three sacks, just take it
from me. Ene of these matter he had. He chased
Mahomes down from the right side all the way to
the left sideline on a on a and six point
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two seconds after the ball was snapped. That's the NFL's
official category against a booty. Against the Cardinals, he was
totally unblocked running quarterback ran right into him. And then
he had a fast sack against the Jets two point
one seconds, But that was going against a running back
where the tackle blocked down on a play action and
all he had to do was run through the running
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back like a traffic cone.
Speaker 5 (13:38):
He did, and he got the sack.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
On on the Jet quarterback two point one seconds also
at an event. That's that's kind of the rough summary
of what was on tape.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
This sounds awfully familiar to the conversation we had last
offseason about DeMarcus Lawrence Bingo.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
I was gonna mention that I'm glad that you you
recognize that. Yeah, yeah, because he had I think he
had three sacks uh D law and and and there.
Speaker 5 (14:09):
You know, there's kind of a a tepid.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Assessment and and you know that, which is why the
league speaks. I mean, we're talking about a defensive end
with trades. You know, he's gonna have high value and
uh and and and so for five million. You know,
there's a lot of similarities where they say, Okay, the
league doesn't think a great deal of this guy. But
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then you got Mike McDonald who says, you know what,
I know, I know how to use this dude. And
of course Adam Dirday having coached him at Dallas, there's
that connection. He knows his personality and knows, you know,
much more of the the vicissitudes of his of his
game and what they can lean on and what they
need to steer away from. So they're gonna have a plan.
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And uh, you know, I just believe in the dudes
that are making decision. In written you on the other.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Side of the ball, I don't think i've gotten your
take on on Harrison Brian yet. Is he a guy
that can help or is he just a guy that
might not even make the team?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I gotta I'm not going to just shoot from the
hip on the we'll go, we'll go.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Don't we have a more for on Monday?
Speaker 8 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (15:21):
It is.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I feel I'll save it. Let's just table that, why
don't we? Well, then then let's get to the next one.
Because I remember talking to you a few weeks ago
or a week ago or so after the draft and
asking you, all, right, where are they deficient?
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And you said edge Rusher.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Well, they seemingly have maybe not fixed it, but they've
addressed it with Dante Fowl, or they've addressed their secondary.
They've addressed I think at least competition for Bradford at guard.
Where are they deficient right now? You think on their
roster if they are.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Well, I think that.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Uh And and by the way, I think that if
you're you're talking about the defensive ends, just remember this name.
You've heard it before. I just want to remind Jared Ivy.
I think that that internally they really feel like this
is a dude that can come on. So let's see
if that emerges. You know, in a similar manner, they
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think aj Finley at safety really is ready for a jump.
And so they've got some guys in the building. I
think the Seahawks were number one in the NFL. Don't
quote me on that, but I thought that I had
learned that they were number one in the NFL with
twenty four rookies in the building last year. You know,
obviously with practice squad and everything, and so they like
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their ability to have scouted those guys right and to
have developed those guys behind the scenes on the practice squad,
and they have an eye on those guys. You know,
I'm not sitting here telling you that that they think
twenty two guys can play. But of the twenty four,
if they say, hey, here's two or three or four
guys that that are going to surprise you of the
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twenty four, that gives you some confidence that maybe there
are some people in in you know, in the building
that are ready to pop. But answering your question, I
you know, they they got a running back in the
first round. I think that was their primary need. As
you said, they got the h The competition that at
right guard is very interesting because you got a first
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team All American who is judged to have been, you know,
deficient in physical traits. That's somewhat like Olua Timmy right
at center right who won that the remanton.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Was the reason why he fell, is what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
Yeah, and he's also an Outland Trophy win right, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
So, so the athletic traits are concerned, I would say
the age of the defensive line in some key areas,
you know, when are you going to see a drop off?
It's likely that that one of them. If you just
play the odds, you know, you got Leonard Williams over thirty,
and you got Nuosu, and you got obviously d Law
and you've got now you've acquired Fowler.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Like, somebody's going to hit a.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Wall and we don't know who it's going to be,
but somebody's gonna likely to have had a disappointing season
in twenty twenty six among that group. So I don't
think they're at an A plus level going into camp
at defensive end. But you got a coach that that
doesn't need a plus D A plus defensive ends. I've
referenced it many times with the Ravens. His last year's
the defense coordinator Mike McDonald. He had that defense lead
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the NFL and sacks despite having defensive ends that were
both over thirty and both on at least their fifth team,
which is the definition of a journeyman and so and
yet they won. They led the NFL and sacks. So
McDonald knows how to take some of these older guys
and put them in a rotation and let each guy
perform their skill set, keep them away from their their weaknesses,
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and find a way to, you know, on the aggregate,
play great defense. He's done it before Seattle. He's done
it with Seattle. There's no reason to believe he's not
going to do it this season.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
So you feel pretty confident in the back end.
Speaker 6 (19:01):
I mean, they went hard to draft these guys in
the back end, I mean Julie and Neil and Bud
Clark and even later on down with Fuller. And what
does that mean for the guys that were here, Like
a guy like Tyle Kotta, for example, I thought was
pretty good last year and played a lot last year.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, is he getting pushed out?
Speaker 4 (19:19):
I don't think he's getting pushed out. I think he'll
take the first rep of training camp. But I think
Bud Clark, uh yeah, I mean, you know, bet Clark
was a three year captain. I mean, guy played like
five years. He's got a ton of experience, and obviously
he's a better athlete than Okada. But you know, so
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it was just about everybody on the on the roster.
Ocata's I'm doing it by you know, just toughness and
guile and technique and what have you. But but yeah,
I would say that's that's right. Nobody's just be surprised
if Bud Clark wins the starting job, either in training
camp or at some point before or Halloween, right, because
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he's that much experience, he was drafted that highly and
and he's got that skill set. He's a superior athlete.
So now it's just a case of is he going
to uh uh, you know, learn the sex system. I
mean if if you go back to a year ago
and you say, Okay, what were we saying about nick
em and worry, Well, I'll tell you what I was saying.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I remember visit vividly, just watching his South Carolina tape.
He was better.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
His best attribute was playing in the curl flat closer
to the line of scrimmage. So did not like him
in the uh uh, in the back end as a
back end safety. He didn't think his instincts, his movement
was great. But but let him be in a curl
flat and he can cover ground use that athleticism.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
I didn't.
Speaker 7 (20:43):
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
I wasn't overwhelmed with his hammer, Like I'm not seeing
the cam chance or wow hit where you're libel to
just the force of the of the violence is liable
to just produce a fumble because it's so violent. You know,
didn't see that. Guess what didn't see that?
Speaker 7 (20:59):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (21:00):
With the Seahawks, either, but he was a great freaking player.
They played unless I think eight or nine snaps in
the back end. They kept them at the line of scrimmage.
They he essentially was a nickel. Sam said that all year,
and and and yet he outplayed what what people projected
in part because of Mike McDonald.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
Mike McDonald knows.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
How to teach, He knows how to put people around
him to make him, let him do the things that
that that plays that allows him to be successful. So
I think Bud Clark you can expect some really cool
stuff out of him. Uh Dick inclusioning as you said,
julian Neal, you know those are two of your top
three draft picks at positions that that the coaching staff
(21:45):
is extraordinary at getting, you know, maximizing the potential.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
I love it, all right, listen, great stuff. All right,
we'll talk on Monday at four, all right, but I'm
to do the weekend, all right. You'remailing with us, We're
gonna break. We're shifting things around today. Tony astra Cone
will join us at six, So Little you make the
call next at.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
Four nine, four five one get him in now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
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Speaker 3 (22:24):
We're back kind of busy Friday. Tony Casherkel will join
us at six. That means we're doing You make the call.
You make the call right now, four nine four five one.
Your chance to decide the content of the radio show.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You decide what the hell we talk about?
Speaker 3 (22:39):
Man, I mean, you got people always asking us, you
know what, you guys never talk about blah blah blah. Well,
you know what, Now is your chance to make sure
we talk about blah blah blah. Four nine four or
five one to coma dots text line. What do you want?
Speaker 7 (22:50):
Well?
Speaker 9 (22:50):
People were liking when we were talking crap about Jared
Kelnick so.
Speaker 7 (22:56):
Ko.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
People wanted to continue that. A person said, Jared Kel
is a head case. Continued to say, also, in my book,
Adrian Beltray is not a Hall of Famer after what
happened in Seattle.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Yeah wow, So he was that poor in Seattle that
he played himself right out of the Hall of Fame.
Did Adrian Beltray have three thousand hits in his career,
by the way, I think he did. Yeah, he's in
the Hall of Fame. Guys, there's a lot of great
players that played for the Mariners and underachieved. I got
news for you when they were here in Seattle. So
I don't know what that guy's talking about. But Adrian
(23:28):
Beltray absolutely is a Hall of Famer, for sure.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
I agree, And I think Adrian Beltray struggles in Seattle
directly and it's not like he was terrible, but they
are directly attributed to that ballpark. I mean, he was
a gap, right handed hitter, and that gap you go
to die at safecoat slash t mobile And as soon
as he got out of that gap, look what he
did in Texas. He's all over the place man home
(23:54):
run numbers, RBI numbers, everything spiked.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Well, a lot of.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Guys do that in Texas right when they go play
for them. So I don't know. Yeah, I mean, look,
that's an interesting way to decide whether or not a
guy is a Hall of Famer. When he played for
my team, he's stunk so the hell with him. I
actually like that idea. Tell the writers to pick up
on that.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
You make the call.
Speaker 9 (24:13):
Last Baseball one because just because Dick will be very
happy about this book.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I'm with Dick on the hatred.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Kyle Seger only hit when we were up five or
down time?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Is that true? But Kyle Seger solo shot down five
to one? It seemed like it.
Speaker 6 (24:30):
I remember, I remember vividly up there, even saying before
at bats because it happened so much. Well, now's the
time when Kyle hits a home run and there it goes.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
Find a better player in Marita baseball history that Dick
hates more than Kyle Seeger, there is none.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
He is the best.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I don't know what he ever did to you, honestly,
like you would love to have Kyle Seeger playing third
base for this baseball team right now, defens, you would
love to have Kyle Seeker and his bat and his back.
I think you'd take the whole thing. Yeah, but you'd
like Kyle Sieger more. Trust me. Come on, Dick, you
would take Kyle Seager right now in his.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Prime with this lineup? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6 (25:10):
First five years of Kyle Seger I would absolutely take
it was. And really I didn't dislike Kyle Sieger. I
think he did until after he got the contract because
his struggles in Seattle directly coincided with signing that. It was.
I think it was the first, yeah, one hundred million
dollars deal in Mariner's history.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
Well, like I said, he was thirty one years old
when he signed that contract. Don't blame him for them
giving it to him, right, I mean a lot of
teams would have said, no, you're too old, We're not
going to do that, and the Mariners gave him a contract. So,
I mean, I'm a big Kyle Seager fan. I love
Kyle Seager. I love the fact that he's a gamer,
love the fact that he had an attitude when he
was here. I think he was a great clubhouse leader.
He was an unbelievable defense of third baseman. He was gritty.
(25:55):
I got no problems with Kyle Seeger at all from
his time in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
None. All right, what's you make the call? Okay?
Speaker 9 (26:02):
And then a lot and I mean a lot of
texts on the U dub Big ten move and thoughts
on where we are after that, A right person says,
I understand why you Dub went to the Big ten,
but I never liked it. I would rather be a
big fish in a small pond, even if the PAC
twelve was considered lesser.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Right now, Well, there's a lot of people that agree
with that.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
I mean, I think my senses and this is only
a sense obviously that as time goes by, Dick, it'll
bear out to be the right move by U Dub
to make the movie The Big Ten.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Yeah, I mean I can argue with being a big
fish in a small pond. If the PAC twelve would
have remained the PAC twelve, sure, and we still would
have had at multiple automatic spots. Even if it doesn't
get the buzz of the big ten of the SEC gets.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, you know what, we never.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
Got the buzz that the Big ten of the SEC
got all through me growing up. So I'm used to
not getting the buzz of the Big ten of the SEC.
But the fact of the matter is that it wasn't
going to continue to be like course the minute UCLA
and USC left right. It was never going to be that,
so you had to do it.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
Well, I think again, there is an argument to be made.
I would not go as far as to say you
had to do it. I do think it was the
right move, But I do think there is an argument
to be made to wait and see what you dubbed
could have been if they had stayed in the PAC
twelve with Oregon, and the two of them would have
(27:33):
been like Miami and Clemson and the ACC just fighting
each other for a conference championship every year because everything
else stinks, Right, Like, you would have had Oregon and
you dub at the top of the mountain in the
PAC twelve and they would have been the clear favorites
every single year to win that conference. So again, I'm
(27:55):
with you that I still think this will because this
is about money right now. College foot is a money
driven business, and the money Washington's making in the Big
ten dwarfs what they would have made in the in
the PAC twelve. I think a lot of people have
a bad habit of comparing what you dubb is making
to Michigan and Ohio State and Penn State and not
(28:16):
comparing it to what they would have made if they
would have stayed in the old conference. Look, if you
want to say that you dub is going to have
a tougher time winning because they're fifth or sixth on.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
The money tree.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
Okay, I can see that, but it still is more
than what you would have had access to with the
old deal.
Speaker 6 (28:34):
Got way more bites than the Apple being in the
Big ten. I mean bites at the playoff right, way more.
Speaker 7 (28:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
By the way, what we were fearful of happening to
Hancock is exactly happening to Handcock right now.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
All right, what's next, Dome, you make the call.
Speaker 9 (28:46):
Oh, this one's gonna make everybody happy. And nobody met
on the text line. Teams like Washington State complained because
it was not them. If they were in that situation,
they would never have looked back.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Being in this car sets us up for the future. Yeah,
I think there are a thousand percent right.
Speaker 6 (29:03):
If the Big ten called right now, they'd be cogs
come to the Big of course, of course.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
And they admit that, right, they admit that, some of them, Yes,
Sue Cougar fans, Krusty Cougar fans admit that.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Ian Furness, krusty. Yes, they admit that because they're bitter.
That's why, I mean, what do you think, Dick, Honestly, like,
if you got your balls kicked in, you'd be bitter too,
probably a little bit of logical. I'd be the same way.
I'd be irrational, I'd be a logical, i'd be bitter.
I'd be all those things if I were then. But
(29:38):
anybody who says they would not. If Washington on that
day said hey, we'll do this, but we got to
take our little brother with us, every Cougar fan would
have said, when do I get ready? What time is
the uber picking me up? Because we're taking off with you?
Speaker 2 (29:53):
Time for one more?
Speaker 7 (29:54):
All right?
Speaker 2 (29:54):
You make the call?
Speaker 9 (29:55):
Think you mentioned about Apple this two of six says
it was not just Apple. The games were also going
to be behind a one hundred dollars paywall like MLS.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
We had to move to the big ten. I'd forgotten
that would have been of course.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
I mean it's your you're you're paying for it on
top of what you're paying for right. This isn't Flip
on ESPN, it's not flip on CBS, it's not flip
on NBC. And I don't think the PAC twelve has
the juice to get people to commit that kind of money.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
No, I mean, and really, who's going to watch the
PAC twelve?
Speaker 7 (30:26):
Now?
Speaker 6 (30:26):
I mean PAC twelve like if there's a legit PAC
twelve after dark, I'll watch that starting on it with
the new with the new PAC twelve conference. But is
anybody gonna flip on a PAC twelve game at one
o'clock on a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Especially if it costs an extra under right? Get it right?
Speaker 6 (30:43):
I mean not when there's so many other great games
going on around the country.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
I think it would have been a bad idea. And
what I laugh at is people that say, you know what,
you could have been pioneers. You could have been ahead
of the game. Okay, when every other conference is ready
to go stream only they'll just flip the switch. I mean,
it's not like you're gonna have a patent right that
everybody else is going to have to pay your royalties for.
(31:06):
Every other conference is already streaming in some form or
fashion already. They just know that society, especially American sports fans,
are not ready to just consume sports over the internet
and on an app. It'll happen and what it will
happen eventually, And what games are they putting on streaming.
Speaker 6 (31:23):
They're not putting Ohio State Michigan on stream, and they're
putting Minnesota Isle on streaming.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
And why is that?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Because you're getting paid millions of dollars multi tens of
millions of dollars a year by these companies to do that.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
All right, we're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
We have an update on maybe the best picture in
the Mariners organization. Next on ninety three to three KJRFM.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
This is Duke of duke Seafood, and this hour is
brought to you by Duke's Seafood. Why don't you make
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Speaker 3 (31:59):
All right, we're back. I kind of busy Friday. Tony
cash kelill join us. Next segment right here on ninety
three three KJRFM. I just noticed, by the way, the
Arkansas Travelers have a double header today against the Tulsa Drillers.
Anybody see who pitched in game one today for Arkansas.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
I did let the cat out of the bag. Unless
you go ahead, Frae, that would be Cad Anderson. You
got his box score from today not complete? I saw
it in progress by score, Go ahead.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
Five and two thirds two hits, one run, one walk,
nine k's.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
He did allow a bomb today.
Speaker 3 (32:32):
He is now down to a point six ERA, forty
seven k's, five walks, and a point six six seven
whip so far for Double A Arkansas. Now here's the thing.
He's twenty one years old. He'll be twenty two in July.
He's only throwed thirty innings in the minor leagues. Logan
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Gilbert when he came up by the way from Triple Tacoma.
He had because he had a rehab assignment last year
with nine innings down there, so get those out of there.
Logan Gilbert threw about one hundred and forty innings the
Miners when he made his debut in the big leagues,
and he was twenty four. This guy's twenty one. He's
(33:17):
only thrown thirty innings in the minor leagues. So I
don't think that the Mariners necessarily want to bring him
up yet, Dick. I think they'd like to give him
maybe a little more seasoning the way that Logan Gilbert
and those other guys got Like I'm looking at George
Kirby was twenty four, Logan was twenty four, Brian Wu
was twenty three, Bryce Miller was twenty four when he
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came up George Kirby in the minor leagues if you
don't include his rehab assignments as well, he had one
hundred and seventeen innings in the minor leagues before he
came up. And this guy's only thrown thirty. But he
may force the issue for them, especially if somebody else
gets banged up and they have an opening. I mean,
Emerson Hancock was number one. This guy's one a man.
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He is legit.
Speaker 6 (34:04):
Yeah, I think the comp to Gilbert and guys like
Kirby are a little bit off for Anderson just because
those guys went to Stetson and Elon.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
I mean Anderson's.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
Meaning what that because he went to LSU, we faced
better pitches hitting.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
I mean he pitched in the World Series.
Speaker 6 (34:24):
He pitched against the SEC, you know, and so I
think a better comp not saying that Kate Anderson is
going to be this guy.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
First of all, let me just interrupt you for a second.
I'm not even done yet with the comparisons. I just
did logan Gilbert and George Kirby.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
First. I haven't gotten to Brian. We haven't gotten a
brace Miller yet.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
But I'm just saying that that is like one fifth
of what those guys did in.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
I'm going to use the comp to Paul Skins, same college,
basically the same spot in the draft and Paul Skins
through thirty four innings in the minor league.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
No, that's why I just said he may force the issue.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
That's exactly my point that he's he may be that
good that they may have no choice but to bring
this guy up now right now. They don't need the
guy right right now. They've got Emerson. Hancock up until
today was killing it. Obviously, they've got options. They don't
need to force the issue with Kate Anderson. Like Brian
Wu through one hundred and fifteen innings in the minor
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leagues before he came up. Actually again get rid of
the rehab starts about one hundred and five innings in
the minor leagues. But I don't remember these guys doing
what Kate Anderson's doing right now. That's the difference. I mean,
he is just dominating double A. And the other thing
that I would mention that we've mentioned many times before,
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that would be in the win column, in the check
column for Kate Anderson. Jerry Depoto's got a habit of
bringing guys right up from Double A Arkansas. He did
it with Brian Wu. I believe he did it with
George Kirby as well. I think he did it with
Bryce Miller. I'm thinking that Logan had a shortstop in
Tacoma before he came up. Uh, Kirby made one start
(36:03):
in Tacoma before he came up after making five starts
in Double A in twenty twenty two, so basically made
the jump from Double A Arkansas. I'm just trying to
come up with a reason why Kate Anderson would not
be brought up yet. And the only thing I can
look at is the is the amount of innings he's
thrown so far in the minor leagues. Everything else reeks
(36:25):
of a guy that is ready to go, and something
that Jerry Depoto has no problem doing because he's done
it before.
Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah, and if he was on the Pittsburgh Pirates like
Skens was, I'd be up within the month.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
That's part of it, exactly. They had no there's no reason,
not nobody blocking the guys exactly. I don't have our rotation.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
I mean, best case for me, what I want to
see is I want to see September call up. I
want to see the Mariners already six games up in
the division and give him a couple of starts in September,
rest somebody, maybe go to a six man rotation in
September to rest some of your arms, and then if
he really looks good in September, is it a possibility
(37:02):
that Kate Anderson's in your bullpen in the playoffs?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Well, here's the thing, guys, somebody else is getting hurt.
I got news for you, right, This is the way
baseball works. But you need two guys to get hurt
to bring Kate right. But somebody else there may be
two guys. That's my whole point, that you may have
a situation this year where you have an opening for
him and that somebody else obviously may be out and
you may have no choice. I just think it's worth
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keeping an eye on because he's not eighteen years old.
He pitched in college. Paul Skeins was twenty one years
old and three hundred and forty eight days, so he
was a lot closer to twenty two than twenty one
when he made his debut.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
CAD's going to be twenty two in two months. From now.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
So he's getting closeh He's getting close to where Paul
Skeins was man, but man thirty innings in the minor leagues.
And I think your gut is probably right that if
Pittsburgh had the Marin rotation, they're not doing that right.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
But we don't want to see him till September really honestly, right,
that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Imagine we aren't that injured.
Speaker 9 (38:01):
I think all the conversations we're having right now about
what do you do in Millicom's back that's going to
go to one hundred and fifty miles per hour when
Kate Anderson's doing this, and we're thinking.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
Gosh, we got him in September, and what do we
do with the rotation.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
I wonder if they'll make him put him into coma
or if they'll just let him stay in Double A Arkansas.
They might feel like he might even be seeing in
some ways kind of better players down there in Double A.
Brian Wu threw one hundred and fifteen innings in the
minor leagues before they call him up, So yeah, I
mean it'd be a little bit different, right, breaking from
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tradition a little bit as far as how many innings.
Jerry likes these guys to throw in the miners. But
as we said, he may have no choice because this
kid may force his arm. He may twist his arm
to bring him up. Simon later, man, I would love
to see him in Tacoma.
Speaker 6 (38:51):
Man, I want to see him in triple We can
go down there, do our show, stick around.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Watch the really Yeah, well we saw Ryan Anderson down there.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
One.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
I'm Kate Anderson. Now are we're going to break? Tony
castor Cone joins next on ninety three to three kJ RFM.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
There's a snap, holds it out. He's gonna run.
Speaker 8 (39:07):
Demand william straight ahead, twenty fifteen speed to the left side,
ten fun into the left pilot Is he in waiting
for the signal?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
Two UKs up?
Speaker 8 (39:17):
Touchdown Washington twenty five yards to Mont Williams just hit
the be button and angled off to the left as
Demond Williams scamper's into the end zone for his fifth
rushing touchdown of the year.
Speaker 3 (39:29):
All right, Tony Castra Cone with us on the radio show, Tony,
I meant at four o'clock Pacific time, by the way,
is what we were asking about. I'm sorry it wasn't
more clear on that. So thanks for doing this.
Speaker 7 (39:43):
Yeah, yeah, it's okay, no problem. It could be with
you guys.
Speaker 3 (39:46):
Hey, stuff happens, man, You know what, I get it.
As long as you're okay, the family's okay, then we're
all good to go.
Speaker 7 (39:51):
Man.
Speaker 10 (39:51):
So well, yeah, yeah, stuff happens, like stuff being like,
you know, you're kind of on vacation, and you know,
I thought I was just going to well, I won't
use any brand names because I don't know who your
sponsors are, but just a quick run to the big
box retailer here in town, right. Thought it was going
to take me fifteen minutes. And then the wife decides
(40:13):
she wants to come along, and she's got a broken foot,
and we got yeah, and then and then we also
take along my wife's eighty eight year old grandmother, and
so I'm like, all right, we still got plenty of time.
But it's a big store, and people get lost, and
then you got to go to customer service and you
got to say their names over the pa wow, all
(40:36):
the things to try to wrangle the the crew back together.
And then I left my phone in the car, and
by the time I came back, I was like, oh, crap,
oh crap.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay, well we got to ask you the wife or
the grandma that got lost.
Speaker 7 (40:49):
We're the kid who got lost, grandma.
Speaker 2 (40:51):
The grandma, grandma.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Okay, Well, what you could have done is you could
have jumped because your classic call, your classic sign off,
which we all know by now what that is. You
should have jumped on the pa and said, Selena, I'm
going home. Okay, that's what.
Speaker 2 (41:04):
You should have said, and then maybe she would have
found out where how you were. I love that.
Speaker 3 (41:08):
Well, we were glad that everybody's back together again. But
Tony casher Cone is with us on the radio show
Let's keep a view from forty thousand feet. Your thoughts
on what you took away from the spring ball in
the game last Friday.
Speaker 10 (41:21):
Man, Yeah, you know, I thought it was a really
productive spring I thought it was great to get to
kind of see.
Speaker 7 (41:26):
Some guys that you heard a lot about but didn't know.
Speaker 10 (41:29):
What they would look like in purple and gold. And
you know, I mean, I think some of these freshmen
just look so just years beyond their age, right, I Mean,
you're just so impressed with Cody Green, Derek Coleman, Brusa,
Ramzach Fruin comes in, he's ready to go. Three freshmen,
true freshman wide receivers that should all still be seniors
(41:50):
at their high school from SEC Country right, one from Texas,
one from Louisiana, one from Oklahoma. All of them had
moments where they flashed and looked incredible. So I think
that's kind of the part that was really fun. You're like, oh,
I could totally see a half dozen, eight, maybe ten
of these guys like playing meaningful reps in the Apple
(42:10):
Cup on September fifth. So I think that's the part
that excited me the most, you know, getting familiar with
just you know where some of these guys are going
to fit in from a position standpoint. You know, it's
still going to be interesting to see the competition for
running back, you know where they're going to place some
(42:33):
pieces at wide receiver. I think the offensive line is
starting to kind of gel together a little bit, but
you still didn't have the hatchets out there, so you
don't know what happens once you throw them back into
the mix. But I just think like the offense is
starting to look exciting to me, and I'm already sold
on the defense.
Speaker 7 (42:49):
I think the defense is going to be really good.
Speaker 10 (42:51):
I think they had like kind of a low key,
like one of the best defenses in the country last year,
but you know, I think there were times in some
of those big games where the offense just couldn't quite
come through Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Oregon. You just need
a little bit more out of that side of the ball.
And I think we saw that they're deeper and they're.
Speaker 7 (43:15):
Forwards.
Speaker 10 (43:15):
So now it's just going to come down to winning
fourth quarters, right, Like, I mean, can you do that? First,
you know, on September fifth and the Apple Cup, and
then after that, you know, hopefully you don't have a
four quarter game in the next two weeks. Then you
got a home game against Minnesota, and then it just
gets real at USC six days later home against Iowa,
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and I just think in November, you know, you're just
going to have hopefully some really exciting fourth quarters, and
hopefully the Huskies are able to win some of those,
you know, that stretch at home against Penn State, you know,
you got Indiana at home and closing out the season
at or. It's just really compelling schedule this year and
I'm super excited to see how it all unfolds.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
Well, Tony, I'm with you on the defense. I mean,
I think it's going to be fantastic this year, But
are there any stars? I mean, Ryan Walter's second year
at Missouri, Tigers went down from twenty five points to
nineteen points. Second year in Illinois they went from twenty
two down to what twelve point seven? I mean, the
Huskies could be down in that fourteen or fifteen point
(44:17):
per game range in Walter's second year. But who are
the guys that are gonna do it? Or are they
just gonna kind of do it like the Seahawks did.
I mean other than you know, Spoon and maybe even Worth.
I mean, there wasn't a lot of superstars on the
Seahawks defense last year.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
So the way I think about the defense is this
the points per game metric. A lot of that is
going to come down to complimentary football. The offense is
going to have to help them out in order for
that number to.
Speaker 7 (44:40):
Be as low as possible.
Speaker 10 (44:41):
But I don't think that this defense is going to
give up a ton of points. Like I just last
year they gave up at most twenty six against o'pringain
and that was the third lowest knack that they had
allowed in all of college football. Like the only other
two teams that had a lower max last year we're
(45:02):
Indiana and Ohas State. So that's kind of like what
you're talking about, like when you're saying, what's kind of
the ceiling as far as what the defense is going
to allow and can your offense go out and beat that?
Washington was third in the nation in that last year.
So now the question is, you know, okay, what can
the defense do to help compliment the offense? I think
(45:24):
last year we saw them be really really good and
fundamentally sound in every area, except they weren't a super explosive.
They didn't create as many havocs as I would have
liked to see. You know, some of that's going to
come down to who are those stars going to be
getting after the quarterback?
Speaker 7 (45:42):
You know, there's a very very.
Speaker 10 (45:45):
Experienced linebacking course, So if they do decide to rush
five at times, right, you know, who are those inside
linebackers going to be that are able to crack through
and get a quarterback sack? We already know about some
of the names off the edge, you know, Isaiah Ward,
Jacob Blaine, Will Russell, Davis be a guy that's available
this year. Ramzach Fruin is a rising star freshman. So
(46:06):
those are some of those guys from those places. But
then in the secondary, you know, I just want to
see more turnovers. I really want to see them force
more turnovers. They got through a twelve game regular season
only forcing fourteen turnovers. They had five in the bowl game,
which kind of haded the stats a little bit. But
you know, I think coming up with those interceptions, and
(46:27):
it's not a league where you're always going to face
teams that are going to throw the ball a lot
or put the ball in danger when they do throw
the football, so you're not always going to have those opportunities.
But just turnovers on downs three and outs, interceptions, fumbles forced,
all those sorts of things.
Speaker 7 (46:46):
That's really what I want to see.
Speaker 10 (46:48):
And I think Alex mclo we already saw last year
Alex McLoughlin like he's riable for some of those.
Speaker 7 (46:54):
But can we then to kind of step up there.
Speaker 10 (46:58):
Ryland Dillard Allen is a guy that I just I'm
really hot. Rashaan Clark could be a candidate, just start
at nickel. Could he get his hands on a few.
That's really the thing that I think is the next
step for the defense.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
Yeah, no, you're right.
Speaker 3 (47:10):
They got to start definitely forcing the issue with turnovers,
and they're gonna have to do it without price socking
Davis right, which is going to be hard to do.
But Tony Castro cones with us on the radio show,
and Tony, you mentioned the running back room there, and
I'm kind of intrigued by this Quaid car kid because
I looked at his high school numbers and eleven hundred
yards rushing in high school as a senior doesn't sound
(47:30):
like a lot, but when you realize it was on
eighty carries, it does. The guy averaged thirteen yards of
carry as a senior. And it sounds like, either because
of injuries that are going on now or just his talent,
that this guy might have a shot to maybe be
RB one by the Apple Cup.
Speaker 2 (47:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 10 (47:49):
Yeah, I think there's First of all, he's a Servit kid,
and Servit's been really good to Jed the programs right
when you just think about the talent that they got
to go from there to Arizona and Jacob Manu now
a Washington Husky, but they really trust that connection. Scottie
(48:10):
Graham absolutely loves him. Some of the folks on the
recruiting staff that I talked to absolutely love him. They
think he could be the next star at the UDUW.
So like, when I hear those guys talk about him
that way, I believe them because normally that kind of
comes through. The One thing is it's a very crowded room, right,
you know, I mean, we don't know what the story
(48:31):
is going to be with Jordan Washington. Obviously he was
kind of the incumbent, the guy that well, I mean
not just Jordan Washington, but if you really think about it,
the three most experienced college football players at that running
back position on the Husky roster, none of them played
right in camp. Jordan Washington went down with the injury,
Shade Lamar and then Trey Cooley. Those guys were injured
(48:53):
as well. They're incoming transfers, and so you know that's
really interesting. You know, you've got all these super young players.
An Susineau looked really good, Brian Bonner.
Speaker 7 (49:03):
Is highly tauted.
Speaker 10 (49:04):
Like they got so many bodies in that room, but
they've only got so many carries to go around, And
so I think it might be a little bit situation
like they might not have a thousand yard rusher this year.
You know, Jonah Coleman hit that mark two years ago.
They might not have that guy. They might go more
situational with a bunch of the different bodies that they have.
(49:25):
But I certainly think that, like you look at kway
Car and he's going to have the potential to be
that super explosive player not just running the football, but
also catching the ball out of the backfield as well.
Speaker 6 (49:37):
Well, I'd probably a wager that they're not going to
have a thousand yard receiver either, But they have a
lot of guys. I think we like Desmond Roebuck in
the slot. I think we like Rashid Williams. But I mean,
who steps up and becomes that go to guy that
you need to hit down the field.
Speaker 10 (49:54):
Yeah, you know, I think that's kind of the big
battle that's going to go on in fall camp. I
just think Jordan Clay, the true freshman out of San Antonio.
Speaker 7 (50:04):
He really flashed and they really.
Speaker 10 (50:06):
Love him, and they got him to go to Washington
over a ton of offers. They had him flip on
commitment day from Baylor to U dub You know, I
think Tres Davis is another guy that had a ton
of offers and they feel really excited about his potential.
Chris Lawson is a player that I thought looked pretty
good towards the end of last season. I think he
(50:28):
played in eight games last year, and as the season
war on, they started to trust him with a few
more players. Had that explosive against UCLA. So you know,
there's gonna be a lot of candidates for that position.
Speaker 7 (50:39):
But it's really the first time in like four or.
Speaker 10 (50:42):
Five years where we go into the season right not
knowing who that person's going to be.
Speaker 7 (50:47):
So that's what makes it kind of exciting.
Speaker 3 (50:49):
Tony Casher coming with us, Tony, do me a favorite?
Can you just look around and make sure that grandma
is near you. I just want to make sure she
hasn't wandered off.
Speaker 7 (50:57):
Okay, everybody's in the house.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Good, but he's.
Speaker 5 (51:02):
All right.
Speaker 3 (51:03):
Well, the one guy that we haven't talked about yet,
and honestly, we haven't spent a lot of time talking
about him as a player lately, and that's Number one
who's now Demon Williams. By the way, first Husky quarterback
to wear number one since Warren Moon. We've seen players
wear number one, John Ross, Reggie Williams, players like that
before of warn number one, defense Byron Murphy war number
(51:25):
one obviously, but it's the first quarterback in you know,
fifty whatever years that we've seen wear number one. And
to me, there's I mean, longtime Husky fan like me,
there's some significance in that that's a special number that
Demond Williams is wearing. So what are you seeing, if
anything out of Demond Williams that gives you any idea,
(51:45):
whether positive or negative about the step or lack thereof,
that he'll take this year.
Speaker 10 (51:51):
Well, I think he's got all the talent in the
it can he take that big step from a leadership
stand point and from a mastery of the offense and
from decision making. That's what it's going to come down to.
Because he can make all the throws he can, he
can win all those you know, foot races in open field.
Speaker 7 (52:11):
He's got good vision. Now it's just come down to.
Speaker 10 (52:17):
Only noticed as I was prepping for the string game,
but looking back at the play by play logs, like
all eight of Demond Williams interceptions last year were on
first down, right not that there's ever a good time
to have an interception, but you know, third down on
a long bomb down the field is it doesn't hurt
(52:37):
you quite as bad as the first play of the drive, right,
you know, I mean those sort of things.
Speaker 7 (52:42):
So can you just get him to maybe you.
Speaker 10 (52:46):
Know, I don't know, Like I'm sure Jed and him
are totally in sync on they've watched the tape.
Speaker 7 (52:52):
They know what they want to do. But if it's
an issue with taking just a tad too big of.
Speaker 10 (52:57):
A risk on a first down play, like, can can
you grow out of that and just understand the situation?
Speaker 7 (53:03):
You know?
Speaker 10 (53:04):
I think that what was interesting to me and I
totally get it was like showing up to camp and
it's early April, and it's the first time everybody on
the outside has had a chance to see demand, and
everybody's thinking like, well, how is this? Like are things
weird right now? But from the inside that was like
(53:26):
old news. That's like ninety days ago, right and now
it's even older news because they've had fifteen practices together.
So I don't think they're going to have any personality
issues or anything like that, any any issues with like
that was weird what happened this past year. I think
it's just more gonna come down to you, like, can
he can he mature as a decision maker, as a leader,
(53:50):
and all of those things, and so far everything that
everybody has.
Speaker 7 (53:54):
Had to say about him is absolutely yeah.
Speaker 3 (53:56):
All right, listen, great stuff, keep an eye on gram,
all right, don't. It's a hard job, but somebody's got
to do it. We believe in you, great stuff, and
we'll see when you get back home.
Speaker 7 (54:06):
All right, it sounds great.
Speaker 2 (54:08):
All right, Tony Casher, come with us.
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