August 1, 2026 • 39 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to the Mariners loss yesterday including Bryan Woo’s start and Softy’s failed prediction about him pitching well, then listen and react to injury updates from M’s General Manager Justin Hollander earlier today, then get to Fun with Audio including sound from the WNBA, Big Ten, and Twins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Where we go from Tacoma, Rainiers and Sacramento coming up
at seven oh five tonight, Mariners up the road against Minnesota,
don't you know? So a lot of baseball options tonight
for the Pacific Northwest baseball fan family, fun for everybody
along Eye five from Tacoma to Seattle. Are the Aqua
Socks playing tonight, I don't knows are in town? Well,
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then you got all kinds of options tonight. Man beautiful, glorious,
eighty degree day here in Seattle, Tacoma. So whatever your
team is, you follow, there's baseball options abound for everybody
tonight in the Pacific Northwest. You know what's funny, I
was actually thinking about We're gonna get to last night's
game in a minute. I was thinking about and I
almost tweeted this out last night, but I wanted to
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bring it up on the air with you guys. First,
the home run Derby that the Mariners have going on
next Friday, right when the Rays come to town each year, Oh,
Bucky Jacobson, bunch of guys on the home run Derby
on Friday, and they're gonna have their fiftieth Top fifty players, which,
by the way, is confirmed today that Brett Boon did
make the list, so he will be.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Here better next Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He might come by the studio on Thursday, by the way,
so that'd be fun to see him in person. But
I'm thinking about this home run derby and the Mariners
announced that Julio Ronrigaez is gonna be the DJ for
the home run derby. Did you guys catch that here
today on social media? If the Mariners are in a
tail spin and they go out and get beat by
Tampa Bay next Friday, are people going to be in
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the mood to hang around and watch Julio Rodriguez spin
WAX and MC a home run derby at t Mobile
Park next Friday. Now, look, I know you got to
plan these things. You can't wait until the last second.
I understand all of that, but it just seemed a
little odd to me and a little unfortunate that the
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Mariners are promoting this home run derby thing going on
next Friday their top fifty celebration. Julio is gonna be
there at MC, and it's gonna be after the game
and we're getting our ass kicked by the Dodgers and
losing five out of seven on the road, it just
seems like it could be a little bit mildly uncomfortable
next Friday unless the Ems get their act together.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I would say, how is it any different to any
one of these that they've done the last thirty years,
where usually the baseball team has been bad.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I guess, man, I guess, I don't know. I mean,
it's just the timings unfortunate, right, you know? I mean,
I guess the difference is is that they don't use
you to do things like this after the game. Things
like this or usually done during or excuse me, before
the game. But this is something the Mariners are asking
you to hang around for. If they go out and
get hammered seven to nothing on Friday a point, are
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people going to be in a mood to goof around
and watch Julio b a DJ for a home run
derby on on Friday night? I mean, look, because I
want to embrace these things. I want everybody to embrace
these things. We got fifty years of history now here
in Seattle. This is not like it was when you
and I were kids growing up with no history whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They've got they've got big names, they've.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Got stars, they got Hall of Famers, they got people
that should be right celebrated by this franchise, but the
team self always finds a way to cast a pall
over everything they do. And it's getting tiresome, man, it
really is. I mean, you had the ten game lead
in the division. Was it two years ago now they
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did that or was that I think it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Twenty three or four. I think it was twenty four,
twenty four, and the ten game.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Lead, number one pitching staff in baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then they blew it right, they missed the playoffs.
Four years ago with the number one era in baseball,
they have the ten game lead two years ago they
missed the playoffs. They become like the first team since
to Angels to do something like that. And now we
got a baseball team that came as close as they've
ever been to the World Series and they start off
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with an absolute dud of a first four months of
the year in a division that's terrible and in a
league that's wide open. And when you were gone, Jackson
and I were talking about this, like, man, you want
to blame Dan Wilson all you want, that's fine, And
there certainly are criticism of Dan Wilson. Dick you've pointed
him out, Chuck's pointing him out. That are more than fair.
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But I'm watching Josh Naylor not hit a home run
for seven weeks, seven weeks, and I'm watching cal Raley,
you know, give you maybe a blip on the radar
and then go back into his shell for three four
days at a time. Brian Wu We'll get to that
in a minute. On the road terrible. He is literally,
among all qualified Major League Baseball starting pitchers, he is
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the worst pitcher in baseball on the road, as based
on era, and that is not an exaggeration. So god man,
I mean, at what point do the fans just start
to turn a finger to these players and say.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Guys, pull your heads out.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You're making tens of millions of dollars a year and
you look like amateurs out there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
My question in watching Dan Wilson's press conference last night,
and don't ask me.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Why did you watch Dan Wilson's press.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Press conference last night?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Because I was, you know, the kids were doing something,
the wife was is out of town. I was sitting there.
There was no nothing else to do at ten o'clock
at night. So I'm watching Dan Wilson and I'm thinking
this could have been a replay from any loss the
last four months. What I'm watching right now could have
been an exactly replay. And I'm wondering, is he that
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consistently milk toast with his team after games and before
games that he is with the media, or does he
read us these guys, does he come after these guys
or is he just friendly Dan every single day? Because
if he's the same every single day and he does
not change, well that's a problem because they are consistently
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milk toast. And if he's consistently milk toast going into
games and coming out of games, then he is a
major reason why they are well.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I just think he's got no answers right now, right
he has no answers. He has no idea in a
lot of ways what to do. You know, It's like, God,
what was the movie Miracle? You guys remember the movie Miracle?
Kurt Russell is coaching the American team and he looks
over across the ice or next to him, and he
sees the Russian head coach and says he's got no
idea what to do. I don't think Dan Wilson has
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any idea what to do. Honestly no idea what to do,
because I think that you and I and Jackson, for
the most part, all of us. I think baseball fans
can probably agree that baseball managers, compared to head coaches
in the NBA, head coaches in the NFL, head coaches
in hockey, maybe because baseball plays every single day and
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it's more of a numbers game, have less impact on
the day to day odds of a team winning than
let's say, Mike McDonald does on the Seahawks. Right, But
where you need a manager is where things are going
south and they're going sour.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I need a guy to step up and be a leader.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I need to got to step up and be the
public face of an organization that says to every fan
out there and every member of the media, I got this.
Everything's gonna be fine. We're gonna figure it out, and
this is why. And I'm not seeing that from Dan right.
And look, I mean, Dick, I think you're right that
his his attitude, his personality is the exact same whether
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you win or lose, which if you're winning is fine.
If you're winning, it's fine. If you're winning, it's almost
a compliment. You're not too high.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You're not too low.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But when you're getting buried and things are going to hell,
you need a guy to step up and be that
leader for you.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And it's just again, your question's valid. What's happening behind
the scenes. I don't know. I know the players like him.
You heard Logan Gilbert's comments on him from a week
ago or so. They love him to death. But just
because they love him to death doesn't mean he's the
right guy. Now, I will tell you this, last night
yesterday on the radio show, we made some predictions, at
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least I did.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Jackson. Did you ever chime in, by.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
The way, on this yesterday just a little by telling
you are completely on something.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So we made we made some predictions for the for
the show yesterday on how Brian Wu was gonna do.
And I don't remember what I said. To be honest
with you, I think we should go back and listen
and remind ourselves. Bryan Wu last night, who ends up
going five innings, gives up five runs, including a three
run bomb. Let's let's let's let's listen back to what
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we thought he would do last night against Ella. He
is just getting beat to death on the road and
that ends tonight, Really, yes.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That ends out.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm feeling it all bets gets the job done, all
the way to the roll in the field with you.
I don't care what the odds say. I don't care
what the money line says. Brian Wu wins against the
Dodgers tonight, boocket.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And rushing absolutely Tea's off.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Into the murder bullpen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
What are you an idiot, Sandwich?
Speaker 8 (08:40):
I got a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I like the MS.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I like Brian Wu at a minimum.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Brian Wu will pitch well in the air right center field,
tail drops the bet?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did he get it up? P's come shut up? Just
shut up, you idiot, Sheriff.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
This is no timed up panic.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
This is a perfect tune of panic. And you can
play this on year tomorrow. If it doesn't happen, well,
I'm glad you played that because I had forgotten what
I said on the air yesterday. I went to bed
thinking that maybe I said he would get killed, and I
guess I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
My favorite part, I'm sorry of that came in the
first ten seconds and it was one word from Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
What's really?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That was so awesome that made me.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean, look, do you think at some point he's
gonna pitch well on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yes, probably not against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, the Dodgers again had a right handed hitting lineup
out there.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I thought he was due.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think sometimes in baseball it doesn't even really matter
who you're playing. And let's face it right now, for
Brian Wu, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Who he's playing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
He could be playing the freaking ever in Aqua Sox.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And he'd be crushed.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And that's the thing, is that, this is what I'm
talking about, Dick, That Dan Wilson's mentality, Dan Wilson's personality.
Is Dan Wilson the reason why Brian Wu has turned
into a mental midget on the road. Is he the
reason why Cal Rowley is one of the worst hitters
in base Is he the reason why Josh Naylor has
not hit a home run for seven weeks? Is he
the reason why Randya rose Arena is playing ola out
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in left field?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Every single night? Is that why?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because if he is, then fire the guy and you
might be able to make an argument that all of
it comes.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Back to him. I could buy that.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I could absolutely buy that that he's just not the leader.
That this baseball team needs. But he was there a
year ago. He was there a year ago when Brian
Wu was an All Star. He was there a yuga
a year ago when Cal Rowley had his best year.
He was there a year ago when Josh Naylor came
over here and was red hot for two months. I
don't remember ripping Randy of rose Arena's defense like this
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a year ago. He wasn't a gold glover, but he
wasn't this bad. So what the hell happened?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, I've you walked right into my poll that I
put out a few hours ago.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Oh man, you got an update.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The primary reason that the Mariners are where they are
is right, here are your options?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Mentally weak, right, which is something you just said, mental midget. Okay,
that's one. They're just not that talented, right, poor leadership right?
Or other?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So how would you Jackson, once you start, how would
you answer that poor, mentally weak, not that talented, poor
leadership or other?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, you're number one.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Just don't think they're that talented, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, huh, I mean I guess I would have to
say poor leadership, right. I mean, because if your two
options for the players are mental or physical. I think
that they're good. I think Josh Naylor is a good player.
I think Cal Rowley's a good player. I think Julio
is a good player. I think Brian Wu's a good pitcher.
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I think Randia rose Arena is a good player. But
they're just not getting out of them what they should
be getting out of them. So either a the players
are just not putting in the effort and the focus
that it takes to win at this level, or be
they think they are and the leadership is letting him
get away with it and they don't know how to
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bring it out of him.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, I guess I would.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Vote for poor leadership, all right, because this is a
baseball team full of guys that has a much better
track record than what they're showing.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Eleven hundred votes in forty seven percent poor leadership, twenty
five percent mentally weak. And that would be my one
and two because I'm with you, this is a good
baseball team, and and there's there is not one Mariner
fan as negative as a Mariner fan could possibly be.
There is not one Mariner fan at the beginning of
this season that said, you know, this is.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Just a bad baseball team.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
There's just a bunch of guys on here that aren't
good major league players, not one because they saw what
they did last season, they saw them get to nearly
the World Series. So I think you throw that not
that talented out now. If you want to say maybe
Josh Naylor is starting to get over the hill, Kyle
Rawley is starting to get over the.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Hill, then maybe I can kind of buy that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But there's still good Bay small players, if not great
baseball players like they were yesterday. The mentally weak thing, though,
There does seem to be a malaise that this team
refuses to get out of mentally, and some of that's
poor leadership. So I think it goes hand in hand
with poor leadership, right, But that's gotta be on the
players as well. You gotta be like, where's the leader
on this team that's gonna get these guys fired up?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, it's just it's there's got to be a reason
why this is. This fungus is going around the entire team, right.
I mean, you got a lot of guys that are
massively underperforming, you know. I Mean it seems like at
some point in time, everybody in the rotation has had
a little bit of a lull. This is supposed to
be an I thought, and I guess I was wrong.
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For now one of the elite pitching staffs in baseball.
I thought they were an elite rotorse and they're not.
They're not even close to elite, right. I mean, there's
reasons for it. Bryce Miller's injury is maybe the biggest one.
But if I would have told you over the offseason, Dick,
the Mariners are not going to have one pitcher playing
the All Star Game, you would have said, there's no way.
There's no way, not Munos, not Wu, not Kirby Gilbert, anybody.
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And that to me is a disappointment, right, Not that
I give a damn about the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now. At least.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's been great the last twelve thirteen games. He's been phenomenal.
But he started off so terribly that he was pitching
behind the eight ball and it cost him wins.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Cayl Rowley's performance has cost.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Them wins, and I mean, look, the Cal Rowley thing
is kind of reminding me of a guy that goes
from his mid thirties to his late thirties and doesn't
have the power or the batsuitede to turn on a ball.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
He looks older.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Than he's than he is. He's twenty nine. He's gonna
be thirty, I think in November. But he looks like
he's thirty five. And maybe it's the days behind the
plate that are catching up to him. I have no idea.
Maybe cal Rowley just simply needs to get to the offseason,
Dick and have a complete reset on the entire season.
Get away from get away from the WBC, all that stuff.
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I mean, dom Kenzone played in the WBC and he's
having like the best next year of his life.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, he is one of the old.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I mean, you can count on one hand the guys
that are playing at or above the level that we thought,
and the guys that are at the level that we
thought are spying munios right now right of the bullpen
right and then offensively a rose Aerna even though he
can't do anything defensively, can Zone and Cole Young right?
Name somebody else that's five years out of a twenty
seven minutal.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well And the other problem too, is that when you
put these guys out there with that lineup of cal Rowley,
a Nailer and Colin Emerson, you got three guys that
basically aren't hitting right now. I mean I know that,
you know, Cole does some good stuff and he's you
can't If you're relying on him to carry the water,
then you're a fool. Yeah, I mean, the guy's seven
years old, all right. Honestly, he's hitting night for a
reason because he did. He's not even supposed to be
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here in a lot of ways. So I just think, what?
What Jerry said a couple of weeks ago that some
people criticized him for was that, look, we can do
a lot of different things at the deadline, but if
the guys here don't start performing, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Not gonna matter. And he's a thousand per sent right
he is.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Because last year they went out and they got Nailer,
they got Suarez, they got turd Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But they added that to a group of.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Guys that were already playing pretty well, right cal Rawley
having a hell of a year?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Who leo have? So where is that? Where is all
that well?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And that's why I voted the way I did that
that I just don't think that this is a good
baseball team right now because the reality is the players
are not playing well.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
I will say you, guys, we have news. Help is here.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Help is here in the form of Leo Revos, who
was recalled from Triple A Tacoma. JP Crawford for the
third time this year, has been placed on the ten
day I ol.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, Leo Reavo.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Leo Revos is a significantly better third baseman than JP Crawford.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, but he can't hit.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
But yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's not like JP's ripping
the p's.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But that just speaks to the bigger problem, right, I
mean third base has been a tragedy, starting off with
the Polanco mess a year ago when they tried to
put Polonko at third base. I mean that was ridiculous,
right that that took you five days to realize the
guy can't play third. So I don't know what the
hell's going on there. You know, some people have talked
about Ben Williamson. Ben Williamson's no good either, right, I
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mean what he's doing. They need to go out and
they need to get a real third basement, a real
third baseman for this baseball team, is it, Donovan?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
We're gonna ask Chuck when he gets here.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
How can anybody trust Donovan to do anything? Can't even
trust the guy to stay healthy. How do I know
who's even gonna be allowed to play the rest of
the year. I mean, it's one step forward, two steps
back with this guy. So, all of a sudden, Dick,
I'm glad you brought up the mentality we had over
the offseason. All of a sudden, the team that we
thought really didn't have a lot of holes, all of
a sudden has a ton of holes going into next year. Now,
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they could fill a couple of them on Monday by
three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Right better, because how many holes does Jerry fill in
December and January?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Usually they've got over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They're likely gonna need a new left fielder, They're gonna
need a right fielder. They're gonna need some help at DH,
They're gonna need some help at third base, gonna need
a bullpen ar to add to this group. But all
of a sudden, they got four or five things on
their shopping list. I mean, we had this sensational year.
We were seven outs away or whatever it was. Was
it eight or seven by the way, was it eight
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outs away?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Whatever? It was? Eight outs away? From the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And they go out and they get Donovan, they get
ref Snyder, they get fer Air. We're all fired up,
this is great, YadA, YadA, YadA, And it took him
about five minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To piss right on our heads.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I think it was a completely because I think there's
only one out completely.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ruin the party, Like we can't even enjoy this right.
Like you go to the Atlanta game in twenty twelve
against the Falcons, Oh, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, and they took advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Mariners go to the World Series, they bring everybody back
for the most part, and they take a step backwards
in a league that stinks.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But it's interesting you bring that up Atlanta game because
I was sad after that Lanta game for like thirty seconds,
and then I was so jacked up I could not
wait for the next play of Seahawk football.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I was devastated in October because I was like, this
is the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We don't know if they're gonna get back next year
to this spot where we kind of knew the Seahawks
would at least get back to where they were at
that point the next season.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well, that's that's exactly what I've been saying all along,
that this idea that, oh this is gonna be good.
These guys are here to stay, you know, Kirby Miller,
Wu Logan blah blah blah, this is the next Laven
Mattox Smoltz. Will you shut the hell up, like honestly, like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
We're taking four guys that have, in the grand scheme
of things, done nothing and comparing them to three Hall
of famers that won championships and went to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We're all starving, right, We're all starving here Dick for
success in Seattle. But you know, look, I've been doing
this for thirty two years. You've been doing this a
long damn time, and this gets tiresome. All of this,
what we're doing right here gets tiresome. The idea of
the you know, never talk or what the hell was
the thing that Furness did back.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
In the home refuse to talk? Whatever? I get it.
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I get it, you know, because they just make you
feel like suckers. They absolutely make you feel like suckers.
It's like Kevin Costner's line in the Field of dreams.
Right when he finally snaps and he says.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
What's in it for me? Remember that, why am I
doing this? What's in it for me? Well? What's in
it for us?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Why are we doing this? What's in it for us?
Fifty years? What is in it for us?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
We're gonna break a lot more to get to from
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in five, Phil Steele six pm talking to college football
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
How would you like to hear maretor GM? Justin Hollanders
s Sturry update.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It's good you said yes because I was gonna do
it anyway. Even if you said no, I was gonna
just say, you know what, We're doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
We'll do a lot fit, We'll do a lot Meretor
GM Justin Hollander with the media today some injury updates.
You heard the news on JP Crawford ten day, il
Leo Reevos coming up. What's happening with the rest of
the gang. What's the deal with JP? Here's the general manager.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Injury up dates. JP's boring on the I over day.
He's gonna get an injection at his wrist. I would
anticipate a couple of weeks down. I don't think it's
gonna be a month or anything like that, So something
like three or five days down and then start building.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Back up from there.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
You know, obviously he's gonna discomfort as he tries to
play through the risk issue, which is like our attending
cheap issue, is that it's being push on the risk
and just causing pain when it tendan wraps around the wrist.
That's probably the greatest explanation, but that's what I was told. Anyway,
A couple of weeks down for JP. Leo revebossibly activated
(22:02):
today in his place Brendan Donovan is if he's all
clear to rejoin the team. He's dealing with some personal
family stuff, so I would anticipate him being back and
active hopefully on Tuesday. But he's he's through his rehabby
feels good and ready to go, So once he's free
and clear on his family stuff, he will join us
lightly on Tuesday. You'll see some of our more longer
(22:25):
term rehab guys running around the clubhouse if be having
already today, I'll start with Carlos Vargas. He's doing great.
Could I believe he throws a bullpen tomorrow If that
goes well, the next step is either another pen, a
live VP, or even potentially a rehab outing, So looking
at something like August fifteenth for Barge. But he's doing
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great right now, Woody and Trent. We'll get a look
at where he's at in the bullpen tomorrow, but all
positive signs for Vargi right now. Matt Brash is throwing
off a slope today, which is obviously different than a pen.
But he'll throw off a slope today If that goes well.
His first wolkown would be one week from today, so
he's like a week behind for our yourself. Something like
we talked about before, Call it like sometime in August
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twenty second to twenty eighth, raem something like that, depending
on how it goes for Brash to be back and
active in the big leagues, and Chriswell continues to do well.
He's about a week behind him, so sometime in August
twenty eighth of September first range would be his anticipated
return back to the big leagues as well. I think
that's everybody we've asked about. Brendan Davis. He's really having
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to take it slow with this significant hamstring issue that
he's had, so he's still just doing sort of light
exercise with the hamstring. He still weighs away questions on
the Buggan Avams is here, but sort of the same
track spring training for next year, Questions on injury stuff
before I get up and go back upstairs with the
plan for sort of base without you. Obviously, Dan's decision
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will make a match a little bit. I think when
BD is back, obviously that's a natural fit for him
to come back for this weekend. I would imagine you'll
see some Leo, some Weston Wilson. Well, we'll see what
the staff thinks as we go, but that's that's the
player right now.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Are you comfortable with Brendon going every day and just
need some days off.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Billy some days off?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
For sure.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
I think you guys have been around long enough to
know when guys come off like long term injuries, we're
not gonna run them out there every day. So there'll
be some days off. There'll be some DH days just
to build him back up. But he's in a good
spot and feels really good about how his body's feeling.
I think he felt really good at the point over
the last three or four games, like he was back
to being himself. Ko Line drives at the ball. Heard
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there's a bunch of like ninety one hundred mile an
hour of wine drive contact over the last three or
four days and is rehabbing. That's exciting for him and
for us.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Good lot.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Justin Hollander Mariner GM injury updates, the biggest one. JP
Crawford on the IL and they're saying a couple of
weeks for him.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
This will not be a ten day thing. It'll be
at least a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And you know again, I mean his days are coming
to an end in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
His contracts up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Scott Boris on the radio show with You and Me,
What a couple of weeks ago now, Dick talking about
a Rose arena. He made it sound like he's gonna
ask for the moon because he knows how much the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Need a right headed back in this lineup. So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm just I'm just going back and thinking about what
you said about Dan Wilson being kind of what was
the word you use to describe his personality.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
The media, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
He just need someone to step up and act like
this is not okay. And I know that it's not okay,
and I know that they know it's not okay. I'm
not saying that they're sitting around behind closed doors, you know,
playing cards and drinking Seltzers and planning in vacations over
the offseason. I'm certain that they're just as pissed off
as we are. Right, you heard what Wu said yesterday
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after his start. But God, it would be nice for
us to get wouldn't it, Jackson and Dick to a
piece of audio sent to us from T Mobile Park
with somebody just losing their ever loving mind.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yep, and we haven't had that all year.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
No, but what it sounds like McLaren though Jackson would
sound like the McLaren rant, which we all want.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Jerry's the guy to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Jerry's the guy to do it, because Jerry's got the
personality to pull it off.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I also think you can make something if you are
genuinely angry, then.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
You can make it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
That's the thing with McLaren is it didn't sound genuine
It sounded like he was reading off a script.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
He was, And I think I think the thing is
like you guys, when when.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Brian Spenser joins us on Tuesdays, it's very genuinely and
clear that this guy is pissed that they've lost five
straight games, right And if there's anybody with the Mariners
who is comfortable and joy or whatever and they aren't
pissed that, I would question what are you doing there then?
Because you should, You should be angry, and you should
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genuinely be able to show that anger.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
How about a player does it?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I mean, wouldn't it be great for Jessmine or Benton
or whoever we've got down there Dick at T Mobile
Park to say, you guys gotta play.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
This right away.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Kyle Rowley just lost his mind, or Julio just snapped
in the dugout, or Josh Naylor just took a baseball
back to a gatorade bucket and went bananas.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We need that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But guys, the reason that Schmetzer does it is because
he expects excellence. And I'm not so sure that the
Mariner Brass expects excellence. You they expect they expect us
to be pretty good consistently for a long period of time.
And so if they're just under pretty good, which is
what they are right now, they're thinking, you know what,
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we're like an eight and two stretch away from being
pretty good again.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So we're really not that far off. Well, you just
indicted the entire organization if that's true.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean, if you're what have they shown if you're
lasting fifty years that they're that they're the championships or bust?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is their mentality?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, you know, I'm not gonna argue with you.
I mean, how.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Seriously Sounders win banners?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like real banner?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Did I just move into Dick Fane's body? I mean,
is that what's going on here? I mean, I haven't
seen you for a few days, but is this the
same guy that I saw last week?
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Is this like in Men in Black when they're wearing
somebody else's skin suit? Like, what the hell's going on here?
I mean, this is exactly what I'm talking about, and really,
you know would be you know what would be great, honestly,
is if John Stanton or Chris Larson or somebody of
that ILK telephoned Tim Hevley or Alex meyer Wiener and said,
(28:31):
I know I don't do this very often, do me
a favor, get the media together. I want to talk
with him at four o'clock today and I'll and I'll
be in the dugout and we're gonna we're gonna do
a little Q and A. And he just went bananas.
That's what I want, And that's what I've wanted for years.
That's not how these guys operate though, Dick, No, they
don't operate like that. John Stanton doesn't operate like that.
I don't even know what Chris Larson's voice sounds like.
(28:52):
For crying out loud. Jerry every now and then, I
will give him props is willing to be a little
critical and a little bit maybe, Frank I think with
the media about certain things. Wilson's not that way. Uh,
there's players I think that are that way. But we're
not hearing from a lot of those guys right now.
(29:13):
Hell offis was two thousand and one or two thousand
and two, you'd have Jeff Nelson and Jay Buner ripping
people's heads off and crapping down their neck right now,
and the manager would to one hundred percent. So God, Jackson,
I'm just waiting for that day when you tell me
and Dick, you guys got to hear this man, someone
just blew their top at T Mobile Park. How great
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would that be? You know what my reaction would be'd
be like, let's go, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
That'll be a joyous occasion.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
And I remember, guys, remember when cal Raly spoke out,
and even then it was in such a calm manner, right,
it wasn't It wasn't cal Raly losing it. And maybe
it's just the makeup of baseball people, but when was
the last time I mean McLaren obviously right, but he
wasn't genuine When was the last time we you and
(30:00):
Lee heard somebody ye wildly outraged.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That every now and then, would you know do things
like that? Felix was emotional whatever, But I mean you're right,
I mean with this group, and you're a thousand percent
right on cal I mean, you guys know my take
on that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I loved it. I mean that that got me turned.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
On when cal Raade went nuts like that, and the
day I became a huge cow fan. It's today I
turned on service. I couldn't believe a former catcher would
have the attitude that Scott Servis had toward his backstop
on that day.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But you're right, you're both of you are exactly right.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And it's just it's something that if I own the
baseball team, I would want to bring in people that
could almost play that role for me right when you
need it, whether it's an assistant or a GM or
a president or a minority owner or who anybody, player,
broad whatever. And it doesn't seem like there's anybody on
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this team that is willing to go out and represent
the franchise like that. And it just says to me
that they don't want that. They don't want that kind
of person, they don't want that kind of guy. We've
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Speaker 1 (31:44):
Hey, if you're in the car toite on the way home,
and you said, you know, this is a nice little ride,
but I got to hanker in to hear some minor
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Sacramento Rivercats. I believe it is A's Triple A affiliate.
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What we say, Dick, the m s the Rainers have
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with audio. Slash eight. Did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Ad, Dick? Did you happen to hear? What's that? Dick?
We go to your favorite sport dick the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Earlier this week, the w n B a posting a
video on social media of Angel recent pagebackers betting four
hundred dollars on which team would win the w NBA
All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The league quickly deleted the video.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
From social media when they realized the bet violated the
league rules.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Here was the video, all Star Weekend.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You and Angel made a bet with each other on
this game.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
You gotta say this money.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm gonna see you next week on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, I mean if.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Y'all, y'all, will you get it?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't have the reaction to that particular story that
a lot of other people have Dick.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That how can they do this? It's unbelievable. This is terrible.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be critical
of the way the w NBA has handled a lot
of what's been going on. I don't think this is
one of them. I think it's an exhibition game, it's
an all star game. They're having fun. Who gives a
damn right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I mean, this.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Doesn't bother me and get me worked up nearly as
much as other stories do.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Players coming out of the WNBA players.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Make bets with each other all the time in every sport,
friendly wagers.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Now they don't post them.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
On social media.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
That was the right thing, you know, But.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Yeah, that's the story here.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's the story that well Jackson.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Jackson is one hundred percent correct. And I think it
just kind of speaks to and if I'm out of turn,
tell me here, guys. It speaks to a bigger issue
that the w NBA has grown so much in popularity
that they're kind of now playing with the big boys
and they're swimming on the deep end of the pool now,
and they need to remember that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And I think sometimes they forget that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Jackson, like, you got to realize if you're a social
media manager of a professional sports league, what am I posting?
And let's maybe check with the superiors, and let's check
with the rule book before I post a thing that's
gonna and then we're gonna have to quickly de lead
and then it's all over and makes the makes you
look like a Mickey Mouse league.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's that's when you got.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
To run up the flag pole first.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, right, I mean, do we know who like runs
the marketing and all that for the league is there is?
They're one person that we know of, because don't you
know what I would do. I would go out. I
would get somebody who's done at the highest level of sports, NBA, NHL, Baseball, football,
Premier League, whatever, Go get some because that's now what
they deserve. I think they deserve somebody who's done it
(34:58):
at the highest level of comp petition and knows what
it's like to deal with that kind of attention and
that kind of volume.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Right, don't get that person? All right? Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear what's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yesterday during Big Ten Media Day, Indiana head coach Kurt
Signetti National Champion ending his press conference by firing this
obvious shot at the SEC.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
The Big Ten is the best league in football. I mean,
we don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest.
We believe everything's are not given. And when we fall short,
we say we fall short. We don't cry a river,
whine and complain, all right, and that's why we're.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
The best Coachinggnetti, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's just going to be fascinating, Dick to see if
the Big Ten continues on this trajectory compared to the
SEC and they win another national championship. I mean, how
many consecutive titles does the Big Ten need to win
before everybody says, Okay, now it's over. Now the Big
Ten's the best conference in America.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I think everybody that's not completely unbiased with the SEC's
head up there but already believes that the Big Ten
is the big like it's all the Big Ten fans
believe that, all the unattributed college football fans believe it,
and only the SEC fans continue to make excuses on
why they think they're team, even though their record against
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the Big Ten in the playoffs is horrible.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You know why I almost spit my water up by
the way side because what you said there made it
sound like you know that your kids are in the
car listening anybody with their heads up there. But i'
mean not just saying if the kids are in the car.
I'm sorry, he met heads up your ass, that's what
he meant. Okay, but you're exactly right. I mean, you know,
if the SEC had won three straight national championships, what
do you think they'd say?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Of course, best car without even question best offers. Now,
I gotta. I gotta say, Signetti is kind of.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
On you, like you know how much I couldn't stand
that when he came, I was like, who the bleep
are you, James Madison?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Has there ever been a head coach in the history
of college football who immediately talked more smack and backed
it up the way Kurt Signetti did? Has there ever
been a guy maybe somebody down the road, but a
dude that shows up from day one when they stunk
incredible and started running his mouth right away and then
backs like.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Twenty five and three instantly starts to win.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think that's why you like him, because whether you
like it or not, you gotta give the guy.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
He's also he's also playing in the conference that my team,
and so I want the Big Ten to be good.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, you gotta just you had to tip your cap
to the man for sure. All right, Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 7 (37:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Three or four? Jets? You pick? All right? Three?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yesterday in Minnesota, don't you know? Royal said the Twins
three nothing. Entering the bottom of the ninth Twins load
the bases, then won the game fourth th We're gonna
walk off ran slam by Cody Clemens. Here was the
Kansas City TV call, and I'm glad that he put
Ryan Lefever in phanetics like I had no idea who
that was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
By the way, you know who Ryan.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
You always want fanatics.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'm just not doing anyone.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's Jim Lafiver's sign manager of the Maritors. So did
you know that his dad was the old manager of
the Marriaga Yes, Ryan Lefevra on the fan Dual Sports Network.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
In the air, deep right center field. Unbelievable, Absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I love it. Miserable. The misery continues, man, I love it.
That sounds like Goldie these days. Yeah, Goldie is.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I'll tell you what, man, it's it's starting to hurt
Goldie and Valley and all those folks on TV. This
losing is starting to hurt those guys. They are not
nearly as optimistic as they usually are.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Well, we talked about how it'd be great to see
somebody lose their mind.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
How about somebody on TV.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Or radio, Well, if they want to keep their job.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Wouldn't that be awesome? Wouldn't it be awesome. I mean,
if you're John Stanton or anybody, you go to your
TV crew and say, hey, you guys, if you want
to just speak for the fan base and go nuts,
do it because you know what it means for us
as better ratings, because people will tune in like the
White Sox postgame show. Not Nay, but the last couple
of years that was the only reason to pay attention
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to Chicago was to see Ozzie Gee and go berserk
after a game, and it was smart of them to
do it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We're gonna break uh.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Chuck Powell gonna join us next on ninety three to
three KJRFM.
Where we go from Tacoma, Rainiers and Sacramento coming up
at seven oh five tonight, Mariners up the road against Minnesota,
don't you know? So a lot of baseball options tonight
for the Pacific Northwest baseball fan family, fun for everybody
along Eye five from Tacoma to Seattle. Are the Aqua
Socks playing tonight, I don't knows are in town? Well,
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then you got all kinds of options tonight. Man beautiful, glorious,
eighty degree day here in Seattle, Tacoma. So whatever your
team is, you follow, there's baseball options abound for everybody
tonight in the Pacific Northwest. You know what's funny, I
was actually thinking about We're gonna get to last night's
game in a minute. I was thinking about and I
almost tweeted this out last night, but I wanted to
(00:43):
bring it up on the air with you guys. First,
the home run Derby that the Mariners have going on
next Friday, right when the Rays come to town each year, Oh,
Bucky Jacobson, bunch of guys on the home run Derby
on Friday, and they're gonna have their fiftieth Top fifty players, which,
by the way, is confirmed today that Brett Boon did
make the list, so he will be.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Here better next Saturday.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
He might come by the studio on Thursday, by the way,
so that'd be fun to see him in person. But
I'm thinking about this home run derby and the Mariners
announced that Julio Ronrigaez is gonna be the DJ for
the home run derby. Did you guys catch that here
today on social media? If the Mariners are in a
tail spin and they go out and get beat by
Tampa Bay next Friday, are people going to be in
(01:26):
the mood to hang around and watch Julio Rodriguez spin
WAX and MC a home run derby at t Mobile
Park next Friday. Now, look, I know you got to
plan these things. You can't wait until the last second.
I understand all of that, but it just seemed a
little odd to me and a little unfortunate that the
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Mariners are promoting this home run derby thing going on
next Friday their top fifty celebration. Julio is gonna be
there at MC, and it's gonna be after the game
and we're getting our ass kicked by the Dodgers and
losing five out of seven on the road, it just
seems like it could be a little bit mildly uncomfortable
next Friday unless the Ems get their act together.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
I would say, how is it any different to any
one of these that they've done the last thirty years,
where usually the baseball team has been bad.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I guess, man, I guess, I don't know. I mean,
it's just the timings unfortunate, right, you know? I mean,
I guess the difference is is that they don't use
you to do things like this after the game. Things
like this or usually done during or excuse me, before
the game. But this is something the Mariners are asking
you to hang around for. If they go out and
get hammered seven to nothing on Friday a point, are
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people going to be in a mood to goof around
and watch Julio b a DJ for a home run
derby on on Friday night? I mean, look, because I
want to embrace these things. I want everybody to embrace
these things. We got fifty years of history now here
in Seattle. This is not like it was when you
and I were kids growing up with no history whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
They've got they've got big names, they've.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Got stars, they got Hall of Famers, they got people
that should be right celebrated by this franchise, but the
team self always finds a way to cast a pall
over everything they do. And it's getting tiresome, man, it
really is. I mean, you had the ten game lead
in the division. Was it two years ago now they
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did that or was that I think it was twenty.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Twenty three or four. I think it was twenty four,
twenty four, and the ten game.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Lead, number one pitching staff in baseball.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And then they blew it right, they missed the playoffs.
Four years ago with the number one era in baseball,
they have the ten game lead two years ago they
missed the playoffs. They become like the first team since
to Angels to do something like that. And now we
got a baseball team that came as close as they've
ever been to the World Series and they start off
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with an absolute dud of a first four months of
the year in a division that's terrible and in a
league that's wide open. And when you were gone, Jackson
and I were talking about this, like, man, you want
to blame Dan Wilson all you want, that's fine, And
there certainly are criticism of Dan Wilson. Dick you've pointed
him out, Chuck's pointing him out. That are more than fair.
(04:05):
But I'm watching Josh Naylor not hit a home run
for seven weeks, seven weeks, and I'm watching cal Raley,
you know, give you maybe a blip on the radar
and then go back into his shell for three four
days at a time. Brian Wu We'll get to that
in a minute. On the road terrible. He is literally,
among all qualified Major League Baseball starting pitchers, he is
(04:27):
the worst pitcher in baseball on the road, as based
on era, and that is not an exaggeration. So god man,
I mean, at what point do the fans just start
to turn a finger to these players and say.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Guys, pull your heads out.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
You're making tens of millions of dollars a year and
you look like amateurs out there.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
My question in watching Dan Wilson's press conference last night,
and don't ask me.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Why did you watch Dan Wilson's press.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Press conference last night?
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Because I was, you know, the kids were doing something,
the wife was is out of town. I was sitting there.
There was no nothing else to do at ten o'clock
at night. So I'm watching Dan Wilson and I'm thinking
this could have been a replay from any loss the
last four months. What I'm watching right now could have
been an exactly replay. And I'm wondering, is he that
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consistently milk toast with his team after games and before
games that he is with the media, or does he
read us these guys, does he come after these guys
or is he just friendly Dan every single day? Because
if he's the same every single day and he does
not change, well that's a problem because they are consistently
(05:35):
milk toast. And if he's consistently milk toast going into
games and coming out of games, then he is a
major reason why they are well.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I just think he's got no answers right now, right
he has no answers. He has no idea in a
lot of ways what to do. You know, It's like, God,
what was the movie Miracle? You guys remember the movie Miracle?
Kurt Russell is coaching the American team and he looks
over across the ice or next to him, and he
sees the Russian head coach and says he's got no
idea what to do. I don't think Dan Wilson has
(06:04):
any idea what to do. Honestly no idea what to do,
because I think that you and I and Jackson, for
the most part, all of us. I think baseball fans
can probably agree that baseball managers, compared to head coaches
in the NBA, head coaches in the NFL, head coaches
in hockey, maybe because baseball plays every single day and
(06:26):
it's more of a numbers game, have less impact on
the day to day odds of a team winning than
let's say, Mike McDonald does on the Seahawks. Right, But
where you need a manager is where things are going
south and they're going sour.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I need a guy to step up and be a leader.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I need to got to step up and be the
public face of an organization that says to every fan
out there and every member of the media, I got this.
Everything's gonna be fine. We're gonna figure it out, and
this is why. And I'm not seeing that from Dan right.
And look, I mean, Dick, I think you're right that
his his attitude, his personality is the exact same whether
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you win or lose, which if you're winning is fine.
If you're winning, it's fine. If you're winning, it's almost
a compliment. You're not too high.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
You're not too low.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
But when you're getting buried and things are going to hell,
you need a guy to step up and be that
leader for you.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
Man.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
And it's just again, your question's valid. What's happening behind
the scenes. I don't know. I know the players like him.
You heard Logan Gilbert's comments on him from a week
ago or so. They love him to death. But just
because they love him to death doesn't mean he's the
right guy. Now, I will tell you this, last night
yesterday on the radio show, we made some predictions, at
(07:36):
least I did.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Jackson. Did you ever chime in, by.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
The way, on this yesterday just a little by telling
you are completely on something.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
So we made we made some predictions for the for
the show yesterday on how Brian Wu was gonna do.
And I don't remember what I said. To be honest
with you, I think we should go back and listen
and remind ourselves. Bryan Wu last night, who ends up
going five innings, gives up five runs, including a three
run bomb. Let's let's let's let's listen back to what
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we thought he would do last night against Ella. He
is just getting beat to death on the road and
that ends tonight, Really, yes.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
That ends out.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
I'm feeling it all bets gets the job done, all
the way to the roll in the field with you.
I don't care what the odds say. I don't care
what the money line says. Brian Wu wins against the
Dodgers tonight, boocket.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
And rushing absolutely Tea's off.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
Into the murder bullpen.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
What are you an idiot, Sandwich?
Speaker 8 (08:40):
I got a good feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I like the MS.
Speaker 8 (08:42):
I like Brian Wu at a minimum.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Brian Wu will pitch well in the air right center field,
tail drops the bet?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Did he get it up? P's come shut up? Just
shut up, you idiot, Sheriff.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
This is no timed up panic.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
This is a perfect tune of panic. And you can
play this on year tomorrow. If it doesn't happen, well,
I'm glad you played that because I had forgotten what
I said on the air yesterday. I went to bed
thinking that maybe I said he would get killed, and I
guess I was wrong.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
My favorite part, I'm sorry of that came in the
first ten seconds and it was one word from Jacksonville.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
What's really?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
That was so awesome that made me.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
I mean, look, do you think at some point he's
gonna pitch well on the road.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Yes, probably not against the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, the Dodgers again had a right handed hitting lineup
out there.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I thought he was due.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I think sometimes in baseball it doesn't even really matter
who you're playing. And let's face it right now, for
Brian Wu, it doesn't matter. No, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Who he's playing.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
He could be playing the freaking ever in Aqua Sox.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
And he'd be crushed.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
And that's the thing, is that, this is what I'm
talking about, Dick, That Dan Wilson's mentality, Dan Wilson's personality.
Is Dan Wilson the reason why Brian Wu has turned
into a mental midget on the road. Is he the
reason why Cal Rowley is one of the worst hitters
in base Is he the reason why Josh Naylor has
not hit a home run for seven weeks? Is he
the reason why Randya rose Arena is playing ola out
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in left field?
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Every single night? Is that why?
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Because if he is, then fire the guy and you
might be able to make an argument that all of
it comes.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Back to him. I could buy that.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I could absolutely buy that that he's just not the leader.
That this baseball team needs. But he was there a
year ago. He was there a year ago when Brian
Wu was an All Star. He was there a yuga
a year ago when Cal Rowley had his best year.
He was there a year ago when Josh Naylor came
over here and was red hot for two months. I
don't remember ripping Randy of rose Arena's defense like this
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a year ago. He wasn't a gold glover, but he
wasn't this bad. So what the hell happened?
Speaker 3 (10:46):
Well, I've you walked right into my poll that I
put out a few hours ago.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
Oh man, you got an update.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
The primary reason that the Mariners are where they are
is right, here are your options?
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Right?
Speaker 4 (11:00):
Mentally weak, right, which is something you just said, mental midget. Okay,
that's one. They're just not that talented, right, poor leadership right?
Or other?
Speaker 5 (11:10):
All right?
Speaker 3 (11:11):
So how would you Jackson, once you start, how would
you answer that poor, mentally weak, not that talented, poor
leadership or other?
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, you're number one.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
Just don't think they're that talented, especially on the offensive side.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Okay, huh, I mean I guess I would have to
say poor leadership, right. I mean, because if your two
options for the players are mental or physical. I think
that they're good. I think Josh Naylor is a good player.
I think Cal Rowley's a good player. I think Julio
is a good player. I think Brian Wu's a good pitcher.
(11:44):
I think Randia rose Arena is a good player. But
they're just not getting out of them what they should
be getting out of them. So either a the players
are just not putting in the effort and the focus
that it takes to win at this level, or be
they think they are and the leadership is letting him
get away with it and they don't know how to
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bring it out of him.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I mean, I guess I would.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Vote for poor leadership, all right, because this is a
baseball team full of guys that has a much better
track record than what they're showing.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Eleven hundred votes in forty seven percent poor leadership, twenty
five percent mentally weak. And that would be my one
and two because I'm with you, this is a good
baseball team, and and there's there is not one Mariner
fan as negative as a Mariner fan could possibly be.
There is not one Mariner fan at the beginning of
this season that said, you know, this is.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Just a bad baseball team.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
There's just a bunch of guys on here that aren't
good major league players, not one because they saw what
they did last season, they saw them get to nearly
the World Series. So I think you throw that not
that talented out now. If you want to say maybe
Josh Naylor is starting to get over the hill, Kyle
Rawley is starting to get over the.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
Hill, then maybe I can kind of buy that.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
A little bit.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
But there's still good Bay small players, if not great
baseball players like they were yesterday. The mentally weak thing, though,
There does seem to be a malaise that this team
refuses to get out of mentally, and some of that's
poor leadership. So I think it goes hand in hand
with poor leadership, right, But that's gotta be on the
players as well. You gotta be like, where's the leader
on this team that's gonna get these guys fired up?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Well, it's just it's there's got to be a reason
why this is. This fungus is going around the entire team, right.
I mean, you got a lot of guys that are
massively underperforming, you know. I Mean it seems like at
some point in time, everybody in the rotation has had
a little bit of a lull. This is supposed to
be an I thought, and I guess I was wrong.
(13:40):
For now one of the elite pitching staffs in baseball.
I thought they were an elite rotorse and they're not.
They're not even close to elite, right. I mean, there's
reasons for it. Bryce Miller's injury is maybe the biggest one.
But if I would have told you over the offseason, Dick,
the Mariners are not going to have one pitcher playing
the All Star Game, you would have said, there's no way.
There's no way, not Munos, not Wu, not Kirby Gilbert, anybody.
(14:06):
And that to me is a disappointment, right, Not that
I give a damn about the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Now. At least.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
He's been great the last twelve thirteen games. He's been phenomenal.
But he started off so terribly that he was pitching
behind the eight ball and it cost him wins.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Cayl Rowley's performance has cost.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Them wins, and I mean, look, the Cal Rowley thing
is kind of reminding me of a guy that goes
from his mid thirties to his late thirties and doesn't
have the power or the batsuitede to turn on a ball.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
He looks older.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Than he's than he is. He's twenty nine. He's gonna
be thirty, I think in November. But he looks like
he's thirty five. And maybe it's the days behind the
plate that are catching up to him. I have no idea.
Maybe cal Rowley just simply needs to get to the offseason,
Dick and have a complete reset on the entire season.
Get away from get away from the WBC, all that stuff.
(14:56):
I mean, dom Kenzone played in the WBC and he's
having like the best next year of his life.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Well, he is one of the old.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I mean, you can count on one hand the guys
that are playing at or above the level that we thought,
and the guys that are at the level that we
thought are spying munios right now right of the bullpen
right and then offensively a rose Aerna even though he
can't do anything defensively, can Zone and Cole Young right?
Name somebody else that's five years out of a twenty
seven minutal.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well And the other problem too, is that when you
put these guys out there with that lineup of cal Rowley,
a Nailer and Colin Emerson, you got three guys that
basically aren't hitting right now. I mean I know that,
you know, Cole does some good stuff and he's you
can't If you're relying on him to carry the water,
then you're a fool. Yeah, I mean, the guy's seven
years old, all right. Honestly, he's hitting night for a
reason because he did. He's not even supposed to be
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here in a lot of ways. So I just think, what?
What Jerry said a couple of weeks ago that some
people criticized him for was that, look, we can do
a lot of different things at the deadline, but if
the guys here don't start performing, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Not gonna matter. And he's a thousand per sent right
he is.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
Because last year they went out and they got Nailer,
they got Suarez, they got turd Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
But they added that to a group of.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Guys that were already playing pretty well, right cal Rawley
having a hell of a year?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Who leo have? So where is that? Where is all
that well?
Speaker 6 (16:15):
And that's why I voted the way I did that
that I just don't think that this is a good
baseball team right now because the reality is the players
are not playing well.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
I will say you, guys, we have news. Help is here.
Speaker 6 (16:26):
Help is here in the form of Leo Revos, who
was recalled from Triple A Tacoma. JP Crawford for the
third time this year, has been placed on the ten
day I ol.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
Well, Leo Reavo.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Leo Revos is a significantly better third baseman than JP Crawford.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Yeah, but he can't hit.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
But yeah, that's true. Yeah, it's not like JP's ripping
the p's.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
But that just speaks to the bigger problem, right, I
mean third base has been a tragedy, starting off with
the Polanco mess a year ago when they tried to
put Polonko at third base. I mean that was ridiculous,
right that that took you five days to realize the
guy can't play third. So I don't know what the
hell's going on there. You know, some people have talked
about Ben Williamson. Ben Williamson's no good either, right, I
(17:07):
mean what he's doing. They need to go out and
they need to get a real third basement, a real
third baseman for this baseball team, is it, Donovan?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
We're gonna ask Chuck when he gets here.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
How can anybody trust Donovan to do anything? Can't even
trust the guy to stay healthy. How do I know
who's even gonna be allowed to play the rest of
the year. I mean, it's one step forward, two steps
back with this guy. So, all of a sudden, Dick,
I'm glad you brought up the mentality we had over
the offseason. All of a sudden, the team that we
thought really didn't have a lot of holes, all of
a sudden has a ton of holes going into next year. Now,
(17:41):
they could fill a couple of them on Monday by
three o'clock.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
Right better, because how many holes does Jerry fill in
December and January?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Usually they've got over the offseason.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
They're likely gonna need a new left fielder, They're gonna
need a right fielder. They're gonna need some help at DH,
They're gonna need some help at third base, gonna need
a bullpen ar to add to this group. But all
of a sudden, they got four or five things on
their shopping list. I mean, we had this sensational year.
We were seven outs away or whatever it was. Was
it eight or seven by the way, was it eight
(18:10):
outs away?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Whatever? It was? Eight outs away? From the World Series.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
And they go out and they get Donovan, they get
ref Snyder, they get fer Air. We're all fired up,
this is great, YadA, YadA, YadA, And it took him
about five minutes.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
To piss right on our heads.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
I think it was a completely because I think there's
only one out completely.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ruin the party, Like we can't even enjoy this right.
Like you go to the Atlanta game in twenty twelve
against the Falcons, Oh, this is gonna be good.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah, and they took advantage of it.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Mariners go to the World Series, they bring everybody back
for the most part, and they take a step backwards
in a league that stinks.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
But it's interesting you bring that up Atlanta game because
I was sad after that Lanta game for like thirty seconds,
and then I was so jacked up I could not
wait for the next play of Seahawk football.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
I was devastated in October because I was like, this
is the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We don't know if they're gonna get back next year
to this spot where we kind of knew the Seahawks
would at least get back to where they were at
that point the next season.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
Well, that's that's exactly what I've been saying all along,
that this idea that, oh this is gonna be good.
These guys are here to stay, you know, Kirby Miller,
Wu Logan blah blah blah, this is the next Laven
Mattox Smoltz. Will you shut the hell up, like honestly, like,
what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Right?
Speaker 1 (19:26):
We're taking four guys that have, in the grand scheme
of things, done nothing and comparing them to three Hall
of famers that won championships and went to the World Series.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
So I get it.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We're all starving, right, We're all starving here Dick for
success in Seattle. But you know, look, I've been doing
this for thirty two years. You've been doing this a
long damn time, and this gets tiresome. All of this,
what we're doing right here gets tiresome. The idea of
the you know, never talk or what the hell was
the thing that Furness did back.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
In the home refuse to talk? Whatever? I get it.
I totally get it.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I get it, you know, because they just make you
feel like suckers. They absolutely make you feel like suckers.
It's like Kevin Costner's line in the Field of dreams.
Right when he finally snaps and he says.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
What's in it for me? Remember that, why am I
doing this? What's in it for me? Well? What's in
it for us?
Speaker 6 (20:19):
Like?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Why are we doing this? What's in it for us?
Fifty years? What is in it for us?
Speaker 1 (20:25):
We're gonna break a lot more to get to from
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Speaker 1 (20:58):
How would you like to hear maretor GM? Justin Hollanders
s Sturry update.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (21:03):
It's good you said yes because I was gonna do
it anyway. Even if you said no, I was gonna
just say, you know what, We're doing it anyway.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
We'll do a lot fit, We'll do a lot Meretor
GM Justin Hollander with the media today some injury updates.
You heard the news on JP Crawford ten day, il
Leo Reevos coming up. What's happening with the rest of
the gang. What's the deal with JP? Here's the general manager.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Injury up dates. JP's boring on the I over day.
He's gonna get an injection at his wrist. I would
anticipate a couple of weeks down. I don't think it's
gonna be a month or anything like that, So something
like three or five days down and then start building.
Speaker 10 (21:39):
Back up from there.
Speaker 9 (21:40):
You know, obviously he's gonna discomfort as he tries to
play through the risk issue, which is like our attending
cheap issue, is that it's being push on the risk
and just causing pain when it tendan wraps around the wrist.
That's probably the greatest explanation, but that's what I was told. Anyway,
A couple of weeks down for JP. Leo revebossibly activated
(22:02):
today in his place Brendan Donovan is if he's all
clear to rejoin the team. He's dealing with some personal
family stuff, so I would anticipate him being back and
active hopefully on Tuesday. But he's he's through his rehabby
feels good and ready to go, So once he's free
and clear on his family stuff, he will join us
lightly on Tuesday. You'll see some of our more longer
(22:25):
term rehab guys running around the clubhouse if be having
already today, I'll start with Carlos Vargas. He's doing great.
Could I believe he throws a bullpen tomorrow If that
goes well, the next step is either another pen, a
live VP, or even potentially a rehab outing, So looking
at something like August fifteenth for Barge. But he's doing
(22:46):
great right now, Woody and Trent. We'll get a look
at where he's at in the bullpen tomorrow, but all
positive signs for Vargi right now. Matt Brash is throwing
off a slope today, which is obviously different than a pen.
But he'll throw off a slope today If that goes well.
His first wolkown would be one week from today, so
he's like a week behind for our yourself. Something like
we talked about before, Call it like sometime in August
(23:11):
twenty second to twenty eighth, raem something like that, depending
on how it goes for Brash to be back and
active in the big leagues, and Chriswell continues to do well.
He's about a week behind him, so sometime in August
twenty eighth of September first range would be his anticipated
return back to the big leagues as well. I think
that's everybody we've asked about. Brendan Davis. He's really having
(23:34):
to take it slow with this significant hamstring issue that
he's had, so he's still just doing sort of light
exercise with the hamstring. He still weighs away questions on
the Buggan Avams is here, but sort of the same
track spring training for next year, Questions on injury stuff
before I get up and go back upstairs with the
plan for sort of base without you. Obviously, Dan's decision
(23:58):
will make a match a little bit. I think when
BD is back, obviously that's a natural fit for him
to come back for this weekend. I would imagine you'll
see some Leo, some Weston Wilson. Well, we'll see what
the staff thinks as we go, but that's that's the
player right now.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
Are you comfortable with Brendon going every day and just
need some days off.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Billy some days off?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
For sure.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
I think you guys have been around long enough to
know when guys come off like long term injuries, we're
not gonna run them out there every day. So there'll
be some days off. There'll be some DH days just
to build him back up. But he's in a good
spot and feels really good about how his body's feeling.
I think he felt really good at the point over
the last three or four games, like he was back
to being himself. Ko Line drives at the ball. Heard
(24:40):
there's a bunch of like ninety one hundred mile an
hour of wine drive contact over the last three or
four days and is rehabbing. That's exciting for him and
for us.
Speaker 8 (24:48):
Well.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Good lot.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Justin Hollander Mariner GM injury updates, the biggest one. JP
Crawford on the IL and they're saying a couple of
weeks for him.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
This will not be a ten day thing. It'll be
at least a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
And you know again, I mean his days are coming
to an end in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
His contracts up.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Scott Boris on the radio show with You and Me,
What a couple of weeks ago now, Dick talking about
a Rose arena. He made it sound like he's gonna
ask for the moon because he knows how much the Mariners.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Need a right headed back in this lineup. So I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
I'm just I'm just going back and thinking about what
you said about Dan Wilson being kind of what was
the word you use to describe his personality.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
The media, whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
He just need someone to step up and act like
this is not okay. And I know that it's not okay,
and I know that they know it's not okay. I'm
not saying that they're sitting around behind closed doors, you know,
playing cards and drinking Seltzers and planning in vacations over
the offseason. I'm certain that they're just as pissed off
as we are. Right, you heard what Wu said yesterday
(25:54):
after his start. But God, it would be nice for
us to get wouldn't it, Jackson and Dick to a
piece of audio sent to us from T Mobile Park
with somebody just losing their ever loving mind.
Speaker 2 (26:07):
Yep, and we haven't had that all year.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
No, but what it sounds like McLaren though Jackson would
sound like the McLaren rant, which we all want.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Jerry's the guy to do it.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Jerry's the guy to do it, because Jerry's got the
personality to pull it off.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I also think you can make something if you are
genuinely angry, then.
Speaker 8 (26:25):
You can make it.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
That's the thing with McLaren is it didn't sound genuine
It sounded like he was reading off a script.
Speaker 8 (26:32):
He was, And I think I think the thing is
like you guys, when when.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Brian Spenser joins us on Tuesdays, it's very genuinely and
clear that this guy is pissed that they've lost five
straight games, right And if there's anybody with the Mariners
who is comfortable and joy or whatever and they aren't
pissed that, I would question what are you doing there then?
Because you should, You should be angry, and you should
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genuinely be able to show that anger.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
How about a player does it?
Speaker 1 (27:01):
I mean, wouldn't it be great for Jessmine or Benton
or whoever we've got down there Dick at T Mobile
Park to say, you guys gotta play.
Speaker 4 (27:07):
This right away.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Kyle Rowley just lost his mind, or Julio just snapped
in the dugout, or Josh Naylor just took a baseball
back to a gatorade bucket and went bananas.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
We need that.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
But guys, the reason that Schmetzer does it is because
he expects excellence. And I'm not so sure that the
Mariner Brass expects excellence. You they expect they expect us
to be pretty good consistently for a long period of time.
And so if they're just under pretty good, which is
what they are right now, they're thinking, you know what,
(27:39):
we're like an eight and two stretch away from being
pretty good again.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
So we're really not that far off. Well, you just
indicted the entire organization if that's true.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I mean, if you're what have they shown if you're
lasting fifty years that they're that they're the championships or bust?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is their mentality?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
I mean, you know, I'm not gonna argue with you.
I mean, how.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
Seriously Sounders win banners?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like real banner?
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Did I just move into Dick Fane's body? I mean,
is that what's going on here? I mean, I haven't
seen you for a few days, but is this the
same guy that I saw last week?
Speaker 7 (28:10):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Is this like in Men in Black when they're wearing
somebody else's skin suit? Like, what the hell's going on here?
I mean, this is exactly what I'm talking about, and really,
you know would be you know what would be great, honestly,
is if John Stanton or Chris Larson or somebody of
that ILK telephoned Tim Hevley or Alex meyer Wiener and said,
(28:31):
I know I don't do this very often, do me
a favor, get the media together. I want to talk
with him at four o'clock today and I'll and I'll
be in the dugout and we're gonna we're gonna do
a little Q and A. And he just went bananas.
That's what I want, And that's what I've wanted for years.
That's not how these guys operate though, Dick, No, they
don't operate like that. John Stanton doesn't operate like that.
I don't even know what Chris Larson's voice sounds like.
(28:52):
For crying out loud. Jerry every now and then, I
will give him props is willing to be a little
critical and a little bit maybe, Frank I think with
the media about certain things. Wilson's not that way. Uh,
there's players I think that are that way. But we're
not hearing from a lot of those guys right now.
(29:13):
Hell offis was two thousand and one or two thousand
and two, you'd have Jeff Nelson and Jay Buner ripping
people's heads off and crapping down their neck right now,
and the manager would to one hundred percent. So God, Jackson,
I'm just waiting for that day when you tell me
and Dick, you guys got to hear this man, someone
just blew their top at T Mobile Park. How great
(29:34):
would that be? You know what my reaction would be'd
be like, let's go, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
That'll be a joyous occasion.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
And I remember, guys, remember when cal Raly spoke out,
and even then it was in such a calm manner, right,
it wasn't It wasn't cal Raly losing it. And maybe
it's just the makeup of baseball people, but when was
the last time I mean McLaren obviously right, but he
wasn't genuine When was the last time we you and
(30:00):
Lee heard somebody ye wildly outraged.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
That every now and then, would you know do things
like that? Felix was emotional whatever, But I mean you're right,
I mean with this group, and you're a thousand percent
right on cal I mean, you guys know my take
on that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I loved it. I mean that that got me turned.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
On when cal Raade went nuts like that, and the
day I became a huge cow fan. It's today I
turned on service. I couldn't believe a former catcher would
have the attitude that Scott Servis had toward his backstop
on that day.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
But you're right, you're both of you are exactly right.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And it's just it's something that if I own the
baseball team, I would want to bring in people that
could almost play that role for me right when you
need it, whether it's an assistant or a GM or
a president or a minority owner or who anybody, player,
broad whatever. And it doesn't seem like there's anybody on
(30:58):
this team that is willing to go out and represent
the franchise like that. And it just says to me
that they don't want that. They don't want that kind
of person, they don't want that kind of guy. We've
gotta break a little Fun with Audio. Coming next on
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and you said, you know, this is a nice little ride,
but I got to hanker in to hear some minor
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AM at seven o'clock tonight, Right, Chuck Pouliley Paleby on
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Sacramento Rivercats. I believe it is A's Triple A affiliate.
(32:05):
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with audio. Slash eight. Did you hear that?
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Ad, Dick? Did you happen to hear? What's that? Dick?
We go to your favorite sport dick the w NBA.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Earlier this week, the w n B a posting a
video on social media of Angel recent pagebackers betting four
hundred dollars on which team would win the w NBA
All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
The league quickly deleted the video.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
From social media when they realized the bet violated the
league rules.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Here was the video, all Star Weekend.
Speaker 6 (32:45):
You and Angel made a bet with each other on
this game.
Speaker 8 (32:47):
You gotta say this money.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
I'm gonna see you next week on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, I mean if.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Y'all, y'all, will you get it?
Speaker 2 (33:00):
So?
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I don't have the reaction to that particular story that
a lot of other people have Dick.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That how can they do this? It's unbelievable. This is terrible.
I don't believe that.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I mean, there's a lot of reasons to be critical
of the way the w NBA has handled a lot
of what's been going on. I don't think this is
one of them. I think it's an exhibition game, it's
an all star game. They're having fun. Who gives a
damn right?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
I mean, this.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Doesn't bother me and get me worked up nearly as
much as other stories do.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Players coming out of the WNBA players.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Make bets with each other all the time in every sport,
friendly wagers.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
Now they don't post them.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
On social media.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
That was the right thing, you know, But.
Speaker 8 (33:46):
Yeah, that's the story here.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
That's the story that well Jackson.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Jackson is one hundred percent correct. And I think it
just kind of speaks to and if I'm out of turn,
tell me here, guys. It speaks to a bigger issue
that the w NBA has grown so much in popularity
that they're kind of now playing with the big boys
and they're swimming on the deep end of the pool now,
and they need to remember that.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
And I think sometimes they forget that.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Jackson, like, you got to realize if you're a social
media manager of a professional sports league, what am I posting?
And let's maybe check with the superiors, and let's check
with the rule book before I post a thing that's
gonna and then we're gonna have to quickly de lead
and then it's all over and makes the makes you
look like a Mickey Mouse league.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
That's that's when you got.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
To run up the flag pole first.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, right, I mean, do we know who like runs
the marketing and all that for the league is there is?
They're one person that we know of, because don't you
know what I would do. I would go out. I
would get somebody who's done at the highest level of sports, NBA, NHL, Baseball, football,
Premier League, whatever, Go get some because that's now what
they deserve. I think they deserve somebody who's done it
(34:58):
at the highest level of comp petition and knows what
it's like to deal with that kind of attention and
that kind of volume.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Right, don't get that person? All right? Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear what's that? Dick?
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Yesterday during Big Ten Media Day, Indiana head coach Kurt
Signetti National Champion ending his press conference by firing this
obvious shot at the SEC.
Speaker 5 (35:23):
The Big Ten is the best league in football. I mean,
we don't run a hype machine up here in the Midwest.
We believe everything's are not given. And when we fall short,
we say we fall short. We don't cry a river,
whine and complain, all right, and that's why we're.
Speaker 8 (35:43):
The best Coachinggnetti, thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's just going to be fascinating, Dick to see if
the Big Ten continues on this trajectory compared to the
SEC and they win another national championship. I mean, how
many consecutive titles does the Big Ten need to win
before everybody says, Okay, now it's over. Now the Big
Ten's the best conference in America.
Speaker 3 (36:07):
I think everybody that's not completely unbiased with the SEC's
head up there but already believes that the Big Ten
is the big like it's all the Big Ten fans
believe that, all the unattributed college football fans believe it,
and only the SEC fans continue to make excuses on
why they think they're team, even though their record against
(36:27):
the Big Ten in the playoffs is horrible.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
You know why I almost spit my water up by
the way side because what you said there made it
sound like you know that your kids are in the
car listening anybody with their heads up there. But i'
mean not just saying if the kids are in the car.
I'm sorry, he met heads up your ass, that's what
he meant. Okay, but you're exactly right. I mean, you know,
if the SEC had won three straight national championships, what
do you think they'd say?
Speaker 4 (36:49):
Of course, best car without even question best offers. Now,
I gotta. I gotta say, Signetti is kind of.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
On you, like you know how much I couldn't stand
that when he came, I was like, who the bleep
are you, James Madison?
Speaker 1 (37:04):
Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.
Has there ever been a head coach in the history
of college football who immediately talked more smack and backed
it up the way Kurt Signetti did? Has there ever
been a guy maybe somebody down the road, but a
dude that shows up from day one when they stunk
incredible and started running his mouth right away and then
backs like.
Speaker 8 (37:23):
Twenty five and three instantly starts to win.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
I think that's why you like him, because whether you
like it or not, you gotta give the guy.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
He's also he's also playing in the conference that my team,
and so I want the Big Ten to be good.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Yeah, you gotta just you had to tip your cap
to the man for sure. All right, Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
What's that? Dick?
Speaker 7 (37:42):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Three or four? Jets? You pick? All right? Three?
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yesterday in Minnesota, don't you know? Royal said the Twins
three nothing. Entering the bottom of the ninth Twins load
the bases, then won the game fourth th We're gonna
walk off ran slam by Cody Clemens. Here was the
Kansas City TV call, and I'm glad that he put
Ryan Lefever in phanetics like I had no idea who
that was.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
By the way, you know who Ryan.
Speaker 8 (38:03):
You always want fanatics.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
I'm just not doing anyone.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's Jim Lafiver's sign manager of the Maritors. So did
you know that his dad was the old manager of
the Marriaga Yes, Ryan Lefevra on the fan Dual Sports Network.
Speaker 10 (38:17):
In the air, deep right center field. Unbelievable, Absolutely unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (38:30):
I love it. Miserable. The misery continues, man, I love it.
That sounds like Goldie these days. Yeah, Goldie is.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
I'll tell you what, man, it's it's starting to hurt
Goldie and Valley and all those folks on TV. This
losing is starting to hurt those guys. They are not
nearly as optimistic as they usually are.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
Well, we talked about how it'd be great to see
somebody lose their mind.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
How about somebody on TV.
Speaker 4 (38:50):
Or radio, Well, if they want to keep their job.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Wouldn't that be awesome? Wouldn't it be awesome. I mean,
if you're John Stanton or anybody, you go to your
TV crew and say, hey, you guys, if you want
to just speak for the fan base and go nuts,
do it because you know what it means for us
as better ratings, because people will tune in like the
White Sox postgame show. Not Nay, but the last couple
of years that was the only reason to pay attention
(39:14):
to Chicago was to see Ozzie Gee and go berserk
after a game, and it was smart of them to
do it.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
We're gonna break uh.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Chuck Powell gonna join us next on ninety three to
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