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August 11, 2026 39 mins

In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss Bryan Woo starting again for the Mariners tonight on the road in New York and hold a new contest regarding his start with listeners, then the guys ask if the Apple Cup is still worth playing if Washington St. fans no longer want to even play the game, then react to some Fun with Audio sound.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There go the Emerald Queen Casino, and we're here on
a Tuesday afternoon, hanging out until seven o'clock tonight. We
got a lot to get to. We're gonna head to
Detroit here about Terry and Arnold from our friend Matt
Deary from Locked On Lions.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
John Wilner will join us.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Brian Schmitzer thank God they want a game, will join
us at five forty five tonight, and then Greg Gagagabelle
will be with us at four twenty to talk some
Seahawks as all of a sudden some Seahawk news, right
with the Robbie Yute situation and the nick Emun worry story,
the Terry and Arnold situation. Obviously, what's going on with
Jadarian Price. Is he gonna play on Saturday? Is he

(00:35):
gonna be ready by the opener? YadA, YadA, yadas. We'll
get to Greg and all that stuff and suck some
hawks around four to twenty this afternoon. But before that,
we gotta we gotta figure something out here.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Guys. We got a little contest. So here's what I'm
gonna do.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
I'm going to offer because we are at the Emeral
Queen Casino and I haven't even gotten permission yet to
do this from my buddy Jason from the marketing staff.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Okay, you efuc, I'm just gonna do it anyway.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I'm just gonna assume he'll give us what we want
and if he doesn't, and then I'll just I'll pay
for it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
I'll just cover it myself, all right. So here's what
here's the price.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
We're gonna tell you the prize first, and then we
can talk about the contest. And there's Justin by the way,
from the marketing staff. Justin, here's what I want to
give away, all right. I want an overnight to stay hotel.
All right, overnight stay at the hotel. I want two
hundred bucks to Slaw Hall, to the steakhouse, and a
pair of tickets to any show they want to go to.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
Can we do that? He says yes? All right? There
in very easy because Justin's a good guy. All right.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
If Jason were here, he's a pain of the ass,
he might say no. But Justin's here is a good guy.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Good. So that's the prize. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
So here's what we gotta do. We got to figure
out how much confidence we have in Brian wu Tonight
on the mound, okay, in New York City in the Bronx,
because there's no sugarcoat in this the last seven starts,
Brian Wu has stunk on the road terrible. I mean, Dick,
this isn't even like he's got like one road start

(01:56):
that's just blowing the whole thing up. It's been consistently
bad from start to start to start for his last
seven games, four and two thirds, four in Kansas City,
six and a third five against the Tigers, five to
seven at Baltimore, four, five at Pittsburgh, five to three
in Miami, five and five at Texas, five and five
in LA.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
This guy has not.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Had a decent road start since going back to the
twelfth of May.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
It's been terrible how bad this guy's been on the road.
But I believe he's gonna bounce back.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
I'm telling you, I'm gonna keep betting him until it
finally happens. And I think tonight, where Brian Wu has
not pitched a lot, but he's pitched pretty well in
Yankee Stadium, I got a feeling, Dick and Jackson that
this is the night that Brian Wu bounces back with
a good start. All right, So then shut up, stop laughing.

(02:47):
So the question is what constitutes a good start for
Brian Wu. What would constitute numbers out of Brian wo
tonight we'll decide this right now on the air. That
would make all of us say, hey, thank god, that
guy's back, right, that's his best road start in three months?

Speaker 2 (03:03):
What would those numbers be for you?

Speaker 3 (03:04):
First numbers that came out of my brain were five innings,
two runs, five in runs. We cannot give Dan Wilson
any rope to keep a starter over five innings because
he's got an entire bullpen, including Gabe Spire and they
had a day obviously, because you you know, Dan is
going to try to pull that guy as fast as
humanly possible. Okay, that's what Dan Wilson does.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
And because that's what happens on the road, or that's
what happens in Jenn, that's what happens to Jenny. Okay,
because he did go seven against Detroit, he did go
six against the Giants, six and a third against LA
seven against Baltimore, but.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Those are all at home.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It's right, So I mean you may be right that
tonight Dan Wilson may see five and two and say,
you know, what we got this far with him, Let's
just get him out of there.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Let's just get him out of there with a good
feeling between his ears and let him walk. So you
say five and two, Jackson, what do you say for tonight?

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Honestly because of how bad Brian Wu has been on
the road, and give me five, three.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Five and three?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Okay, okay, Well, my first numbers that I popped into
my head were the same ones as Dick. Five and
three to me is not good enough for Brian Wu.
This is a former all start, right, So I'm gonna
go five and two. Anything over five, five or more
two or less is a good start. Anything over under

(04:17):
five or over two would be considered for these purposes
a bad start.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
What if he goes six and three or seven and three,
because that's a really good start, but it's over two runs.
So what happens then?

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Well, I mean, see here's the thing about six and three.
Six and three isn't even good. It's a four and
a half VR, But it's good for him. Yeah, for him,
it's phenomenal. I mean, honestly, it is a quality start.
But that was that was a statistic that Bill James.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Created like forty years ago.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I don't know if a four and a half r
for a cat like Brian Wu, I'm not sure if
I buy that crap anymore.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Seven and three that's different, six and two that's different.
So I don't know if we necess Sarrady, Jackson and
Dick associate numbers with this thing as much as we can,
all just you know, just agree, Like if he goes
out and goes seven and two, great, If he goes
six and two, great. If he goes six and two
thirds gives up three, great, just for the sake of

(05:16):
the argument.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
If he goes six and three, let's just say five.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
Well, no, yes, five and two. Six and three I
think is the kind of the fair line there.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
But five and three is you know what, Brian wo
Woo's so bad.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
I would take five and three right now, sign me up.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So do we do we lower the standards then?

Speaker 4 (05:33):
For Bridan Wu right now, I'm lowering my standards for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Let's let's keep in mind here, h Let's keep in
mind who he's facing, right, Let's Jackson.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
Here is the ops.

Speaker 3 (05:45):
No, but it's good news. Here's the ops of Yankees
lineup today, six ninety nine, five twenty one, six fifty four,
six ninety six, ninety one, six fifty four, five seventy three,
a guy that's got seventeen abs in his career and
one good hitter named Ben Rice at eight ninety five,
one hitter.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
There, give me the homes. Let's give me the home home.
I don't know if they're doing at home Yankee Stadium,
the Yankees.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Let's see, the Yankees at home have a seven fifty
two OPS. That's what they're Well, Aaron Judge hasn't played
for like a month and a half. He hasn't he
hasn't played for skews. Their ops's five games. They got
a seven to five to two OPS at home. On
the road, the New York Yankees have Oh it's much

(06:33):
lower on the road, much lower on the road. They
are six ninety four. So they have an OPS that's
over sixty points higher, almost sixty points higher.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Is it's not a good offense.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
It's not a great offense. But there is a matter
who Brian will faces right now, right, I mean bad teams,
good teams. Everybody's killing the guy. So why don't we
just say this all right? Why don't we just.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
The three of us will decide how does that sound?
All right?

Speaker 1 (06:57):
What is a good start and what is not so
good stock? And it's gotta be good, all right. I
think we'll kind of all of us can agree. We'll
figure it out. Whatever will we approve or will we
disapprove of Brian Wolf's start tonight?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Is that? Is that a fair way to put us? Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:14):
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(07:34):
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Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay. So that's a that's a that's a nice evening, right.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Some tightwad bastard out there is gonna think this is
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Speaker 2 (07:53):
Queen.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Text in your first and last name, right Jackson in
your email and approve or disapprove? Will we approve or
disapprove of Brian Woo's start tonight?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
And I'll tell you what.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
When this segment's over, I'm walking right to the sports
book right behind you, deck Or I just want one
hundred bucks on the roulette table because I went up,
but I saw fifteen reds in a row, and bet
I'm black, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna put all
of it on the Mariners to win this game tonight
because of Brian Wu.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
So that's how this is what's gonna happen again. Because
two weeks ago, Softy, you did this for the Dodgers game.
The next day, I got the pieces of your audio
and we put them with the highlights of the Dodgers
just hitting Brian Wu.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
That's right, So you're doing it again tomorrow. You're getting
me craftible to.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
But if he's right, if I'm right, I better I
better get my I better get my uh my praises
tomorrow you will better get my roses.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
I'll get the strikeout highlights. It'll be it'll be a
highlight package of Brian wo.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
If the improbable happens, he's gonna pull it off. This
is the night man.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
This is the way to do, like after the game's over,
like a group FaceTime that we can record and we
can all do the woking Phoenix when we put our
fish out and we either do a thumbs up or
a thumbs down gladiator. Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's all.
We just go one, two, three and we either go
up or down. Well, and we don't know what the
other person's gonna do.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
We'll probably still be on the air when the game ends,
by the way, just so you know, because we're on
the air till seven o'clock. Games are four o'clock today, right,
so we're gonna be on the air. Okay, at least
you want to tell people that way. But I'll be
at dinner, so we'll find a way to do something
like that. That's the point. But anyway, never mind all that.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
So you just did oh.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Approve or disapprove? That's all we gotta know, right, approve
or disapprove? Name, full name, email, and will we approve
or disapprove of Brian Wu start tonight.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I feel good.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I was privy to some information after the Dodger game
that I was not aware of before the game. If
I had known this before the game, I never would
have said what I said on the air about a
week and a half ago. And I got some intel
this morning that leads me to believe that Brian Wu
is going to finally deliver tonight for the Mariners at
Yankee Stadium. You sound like that I have run the

(10:09):
numbers and he will get it done tonight. I feel
confident in Brian Wu, and if he doesn't get it
done tonight, then we'll do it again for his next
road start.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
I feel I feel it confident enough that I've already
play placed a wager on the under for the first
five innings. All right, So when Brian WU is there,
you place the wager that I think Brian will do.
We'll do the five innings and two runs things. I
also place another rage because I have so much confidence
in the mariond offense that the Raiders will lose the game.
So I think it will be a low scoring game

(10:38):
that the Mariners.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Well, here's the thing, they could he could pitch well
and they could lose.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I mean, the starting pitching against the Raids was fantastic,
was great against the race. That starting pitching wasn't the problem.
So that's the thing is that now we're getting to
a point where the starting pitching is starting to really
bounce back, but the offense is going down the toilet.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
I mean they've been in the toilet pretty much all
year long, mostly because they can't hit home runs. But
this thing with Brian Wu, man, it's really unbelievable. I mean, honestly,
like I put this on Twitter where I said, at home,
he's cam Chancer.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
On the road, he's Jamal Adams.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
I don't even know if there's a better description to
describe the way Brian Wu was played. I mean you might,
I does if he gets his ass kicked again tonight.
And I don't know if we're at a point where
we're even kind of worried about that. If this team
we're tied for the division lead, or they were a
game out of a wildcard spot, whatever, maybe you'd feel
differently about it. But they've been finagling and goofing around

(11:32):
and putson around with a pitching staff all year long
with this piggyback thing and the six man rotation. You're
telling me that Jerry and Justin can't find a way
to get Brian Wo off the road. I mean, honestly, like,
just figure something out, because if he does it again tonight,
that's eight consecutive crap starts on the road for Brian Wu.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
At what point do you have to just say we
can't do this.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Ax Tonight's I think tonight would be the night and
you can just skip his next start because his next
start would be in Milwaukee. You just skip his next start.
You've got a couple of days off, right, then you
can just pitch him again, either against Chicago or Philadelphia
at home in the next series.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
I like the no I didn't know. It's now seven
in a row. The Sounders lost seven in a row
and they won their eighth game. You see Sounders lost.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Let's get on my line of thinking about that's right.
There are signs, there are things in the air that
say that Brian Wu will get it done tonight, and
that's the latest one. I just think this man, I
think eventually we got to play the numbers that eventually
this guy is gonna have a decent road start, right,
you'd have to think, I mean, how many more starts
does he have left you? Five or six starts the

(12:38):
rest of the way, three or four on the road, maybe, whatever,
whatever it is. At some point, just by sheer dumb luck,
the guy's gonna walk into a decent road start. And
it really the way baseball works, It really doesn't matter
who it comes against. You know, you could say, well,
it's gonna be hard against the Yankees. Well, if his

(12:58):
next start is supposed to be against Milwaukee, it's gonna
be hard against Milwaukee, or hard against the Phillies, or hard.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
Against the Cubs.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
He's gonna find a way to pitch better at some point,
and it won't matter who he's facing, as.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Long as he keeps the ball in the yard. This
is a really tough place to get base hits. You
would think Yankee Stadium is an offensive park. It is
a very easy place to hit home runs. It's a
very difficult place to get base hits, singles, doubles, triples.
It's amongst the bottom five parks in baseball, and singles,
doubles and triples, home runs, it's one of the easiest places.

(13:31):
So if he can kit the ground balls, keep the
ball in the park, then he can pitch.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Well, well, that's good because Brian Woz only allowed eight
home runs in his last seven road starts, so that
should be great.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
That shouldn't work right into the you know, no, change
my mind. I'm not faking. He's gonna stake tonight. So
we want we want to prove.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Or disapprove to four nine, four to five one, your
first and last name, your email, and just one of
the two approved. Will we approve or disapprove Brian Woo start,
and we will be the ones to the side when
the show is over, and we will announce tomorrow at
three o'clock. Don't forget to do this, by the way,
Jackson A right, your little roast, We're all good. Tomorrow

(14:11):
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Speaker 2 (14:23):
Now Seahawk News, Robbie Oots is out for the year.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
I hate that the NFL does this, by the way,
don't you well, it's like the guy's gotta go on IR.
And because he's on IR, because the excuse me, before
the fifty three man roster has set, he's out for
the season, right, I mean, can't they put him on
the pup? Yeah, but that would be four games. I mean,
he's obviously going to be gone longer than four games.
But what if he's healthy and ready to go by

(14:48):
late October or early December.

Speaker 3 (14:51):
There a list that was like eight or ten weeks.
I don't know if the case.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't know if there is or not. It might
be a neck injury for him, it's undisclosed. But I
just don't like the fact that they have to make
a decision in August on whether or not a guy
who's going to play the entire year.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
That's what bugs me. I don't agree with that. I
don't like that. No.

Speaker 3 (15:07):
I like Robbie Hutz. I think the Hawks are a
better team with him. I would have to go look
that up. I thought there was one that was like
an eight week or a ten weeks something like that,
because there's got to be there's got to be a
gap between four weeks and the rest of the season
for injured guys. That's I mean that's like almost three months.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, I think they're better without him. You know, I
know that Brady Russell is going to be the fullback,
so he's pretty much made the football team, despite the
fact that he thinks that Derek call is an egomaniac.
Now you can think Hard Knocks for that and the
idea that add and Dirty actually tattletaled on him in
the Hard Knock Show. But I like Robbie Hughtes right.
I like his attitude. I like the way he plays football.

(15:44):
It's the reason why the Hawks drafted him last year
out of Alabama. There's a reason why he had two
games last year. I think it was against Arizona and
Pittsburgh where he played twenty seven snaps on offense in
those games. He played a bunch of snaps in the
final game of the year in Week eighteen against Francisco.
And now he's gone. So look, it's not a death
knell for the Hawks. Nobody's ever gonna sit around and say,

(16:07):
if you lose a full back, then your chances are cooked.
Who is the white guy from the Buccaneers back in
the day, the full back that they had in Tampa Bay.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
What was his name? Remember? The guys. Yes, of course
I do.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
That was he's the guy of talking about banking on him,
but you know he's not of that ilk as Mike,
of course, right, So I'm not gonna sit here.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
In panic about it.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
But you've got a couple of injuries now you're dealing with,
and good news on Emon Worry passing his physical. That
doesn't mean he'll play in the opener, but Dustin, Mike Alstatt,
thank you. It does mean he's moving in the right
direction now the price injury, so you know you got
some you got some slight concerns, right, nothing that's gonna
keep you up at night, but certainly some slight concerns.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
I think because you're right, because he put he was
put on the i R in the preseason, right, he
can't be pulled back.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
He's done.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
If he's pulled on the if he's put on the
IR as an injury in the regular season, he can
be pulled back. You can. You can pull back up
to ten.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Players, so they've he don't feel like he's going to
be ready at any point in time during the year,
or he'll be ready way too late. I just don't
like again the idea that you got to make that
decision right now. Who knows what the hell's going to happen.
But if it is a neck injury, man, I mean,
that's a potential real problem for him long term because
he had games last year where he did miss games
because of his neck and that's not something that you
want to mess around with a full back, especially at

(17:20):
that position. So we'll chat more about that with Greg Bell.
Get some texts again. Will we approve or disapprove of
Brian Wu's road start? For those wondering why we're doing this,
it's because really he has stunk since the twelfth of
May on the road. He has been absolutely terrible. The
last real decent road start that Brian Wu had he

(17:41):
went six and two at the Astros on May twelfth,
that is literally three months ago. Tomorrow is the last
time Brian Wu had a Brian Wu like start on
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(18:01):
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A lot more to get to, including an update on
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up on ninety three three KJRFM.

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Speaker 1 (18:42):
All right, we're back at the Emra Queen Casino. I
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he shared. Yeah, absolutely, you and Dick are fighting, by
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Speaker 2 (18:54):
A that's a different that's a different email that this emo,
that's a different email.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
I've got NFL football and college football combined on a
calendar here from Rich Moore. Saturday Night, it goes Ravens
four o'clock on kjr FM, August twenty ninth, North Carolina
TCU nine am, San Jose State USC twelve o'clock. Dude,
that's eighteen days away from college football kicking off here

(19:19):
on cajyar.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
What is that? Week zero? Is that what they call that? Now?
Why do they do that? Can you explain that to me?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think they should have big time games. Well, Labor
Day weekend, in my opinion, should be the weekend a
college football kicks off with ton multiple sec versus Big ten,
ABSUO Bread, Yes, Texas, Ohio State type games like they
had last year and like they'll have.

Speaker 1 (19:41):
This right or so, meaning nothing from like the Pac
twelve Conference right or really I mean no ACC or
the Big twelve or.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
The Big twelve or the ACC unless it's like a
Miami Right.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Well, I'm looking at so what is that? That's week So?

Speaker 1 (19:57):
I guess technically they're calling it week one now and
not week zero, which is great.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
When is Labor Day? What? What? What weekend? Is Labor
Day week?

Speaker 3 (20:04):
Next weekend?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay, so we're talking about week two of the college
football season, right.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Ohio State and not much else.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Florida A and m Miami billing Ova to Louisville. I mean,
you're exactly right that if the Big Ten and the
SEC are going to talk about running college football, then
they should be getting together and they should be making
this happen, right, you know, get some big time games. Yeah,
like Sunday night September the sixth, because most people have
Labor Day off, And when's the Seahawk Game?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is it the ninth? Is that right? Is that the correct, guys?
Wednesdays the ninth?

Speaker 1 (20:39):
So we're talking about the night of September six the
weekend of September fifth, which is week one technically, by
the way, according to the college football calendar. So what
do they got going on on that on that Saturday?

Speaker 3 (20:52):
Are you talking about the Saturday that the hust does
about Cougar correct, which which is Sunday, September sixth?

Speaker 1 (20:58):
The Apple Cup is four weeks for this Sunday. Is
there anything of note on that Saturday? On that Sunday night?
I mean, hell, why do you do this? Why do
you put a game on Labor Day? Have a game
on Labor Day nights?

Speaker 3 (21:13):
We've done that a couple of times. Absolutely, I know
there like Florida State, Miami was on a labor Day,
there was a Notre Dame. It was LSU LSU Florida State.
A year with Labor Day game, I.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Don't think there's one top twenty five game Labor Day
weekend because it's not even letting me bring up a
top twenty five matchup. You got SMU and Florida State
on Labor Day, okay, not terrible, Wisconsin Notre Dame. On
Sunday night, you dub and the Apple Cup is at
one o'clock.

Speaker 6 (21:43):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
The cool thing about the Apple Cup.

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Is Dick starting game. It's the only game that's awesome.
That's why I love the Sunday Apple Cup. Every only
game being played.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Every bar in America will have the Apple Cup.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
Every sportsbooking else going on, every.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Bar, everybody that wants to watch football will have the
Apple Cup.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
That's the only thing that you're competing with is baseball.
There's literally nothing else going on on that day. You
got you Dub and WAZU at one, Louisville Ole Miss
at four thirty in Wisconsin, Notre Dame at four.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
There's a Clemson LSU game.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Not bad, abea, not bad on Saturday on Saturday, right,
But on Sunday we're the only game being played. Well,
I put a poll out a while back, and I
don't really have the numbers in front of me. I
got to look it up somewhere, but I think it
was more positive than negative. And the question was the
Apple Cup is going to be played. At that point,
it was five weeks away, and it's there's only three

(22:34):
more games that are scheduled in the series through twenty
twenty eight. Do we want to see it continue? Do
we want to see the Apple Cup continue starting with
a new deal in twenty twenty nine. I would like
to see it happen. I think you'd like to see
it happen. But I am less concerned about it getting
squashed now than ever. I mean I always a less

(22:57):
concerned about it. Yeah, I mean I was more like,
like I don't want to lose it. Now I'm like, whatever, Oh,
it doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
I see what you mean.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
If it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I'd like to
see it continue, but if it goes away, then it
goes away. I mean, I'm probably fifty five forty five
for it, to be honest with you, and I will
tell you, Dick and Jackson. The part of the reason
why I'm kind of growing lukewarm on the Apple Cup
is because the Cougar fans that I talk to, a
lot of them I hear from don't care anymore. And
if they don't care anymore, it just doesn't There's no buzz,

(23:27):
there's no juice.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
Right, my question, I'm I'm like an eighty twenty for
it for it, right, at least eighty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Your wife give a damn she wants.

Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah, she is as fired up about the Apple Cup
now as she ever is.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Really wow.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Wow, she's an outlier then, yeah, most Cougar fans are
going the other way.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, but she doesn't pay as close attention to what's
going on in college football as probably most of the
listeners do. So she just likes to go and party, right,
But she is so and she likes to see all
of her Cougar friends in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right. But I will to say hurt his wife, Jackson.
He's a kug.

Speaker 3 (24:00):
I mean, what has just assumed? Right, So my question
is would be to the Cougars, what type of commitment
are you going to make to be a dominant Pac
twelve football team? Because if you're gonna make a legitimate
commitment to be one of the best football teams in
America that's not in a power conference, right then, Yeah,

(24:22):
that's great. If you're just gonna throw in the towel
like a lot of Cougar fans want to, and you're
gonna turn into be You're gonna turn into McNeese State,
then why win fifty five to three every week every
time you play him. I don't want to see that.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
I want to see him.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
I want to see a fairly competitive Apple Cup that
the Cougars have at least a puncher's chance to win
every four or five years.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
I don't need I don't need to see any of
that because I like kicking their ass y. I just
want the passion to remain, and I feel like the
passion is gone because it's all about the rivalry.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
It's about the smack talk.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
It's about being on edge the week of the game
and thinking, my god, if we lose this, then we're
gonna They're gonna have bragging rights for a year and
I'm gonna have to lose a bet with Pucket and
eat cat food or whatever, right, something stupid like that.
You grew up within three sec that's well, you would
to trust I would. That's the concern that I've got.
I mean, I don't necessarily need to see a competitive

(25:22):
game because, let's face it, I'm not trying to be
a smart alec here Jackson. The Apple Cup in a
lot of ways is never competitive. I mean, Chris Peterson
beat Mike Leach to a pulp every year he played him.
But I loved it because the Cougar fans made something
out of it. They they they they dreamed that they
could win the game. They wanted to play the game.
They were providing some resistance off the field, and I

(25:45):
feel like right now that resistance is kind of gone.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I think maybe it's his generational too. So, like, you know,
as long as I've been a Husky fan, which has
really kind of been since their early two thousands, uh
two and one was kind of my first year that
I consciously remember watching the Huskies team, and since then,
it's pretty been pretty one sided the whole way. So
considering that guys I don't really me and my like

(26:11):
Cougar friends, it's not ever been sort of like, yeah,
we can really beat you, and we're super competitive. And
this is a fifty to fifty game. It's never been
like that, so I don't ever value it all the
element there you're talking about softy of I want a
competitive back and forth with the Cougar fans.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't care about that because I've never had it.

Speaker 4 (26:31):
So all I want, that's no, no, But all I want, guys,
all I want is a win. I just want the
Huskies to win more. If that means we get an
automatic W on the calendar almost every single year, you know,
nine point five out of ten times we're gonna get
I gotta be nineteen out of twenty times you get
a W on the schedule. I want that, So give

(26:52):
me the game less of it's less about necessarily the
human to human fan to fan ailment, and it's more
just because I want another win.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
But isn't it more fun?

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Well sure, when Cougar fans walk into the building actually
thinking they have a shot that wins and talking.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Some smack, I think, so then you kick your ass.
That is way more fun than what we've had the
last couple of.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Years, where it's like, oh, we know, we're we're talking
about two different things. You're talking about you want a
competitive game.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I want a competitive environment.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Okay, that's surrounding.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
That's totally different, right because the game, again, these are
the scores of the last like ten Apple Cups, the
Huskies have won fifty nine to twenty four, twenty four
to twenty one, fifty one, thirty three, thirty one, thirteen,
twenty eight, fifteen forty one, fourteen forty five to seventeen,
forty five to ten, thirty one to thirteen, twenty seven
to seventeen, thirty eight to twenty one, thirty to zip,
and thirty five twenty that's all double dish. There's only

(27:44):
been two of them that were close. Okay, So that's
the way this game goes. So what Dick?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
I think? Dick and I are more on the same
page than you are, Jackson. You just want the win,
I do.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
You don't care what kind of resistance you get from
the fans, You don't care how much pageantry or emotions
attached to the game itself. Then if we're gonna do that,
then why not just play somebody else? Want the history?
But they don't even want it anymore, and they should
want it because they need the money.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Why not start something new with Eastern.

Speaker 3 (28:15):
They want it more than they should want because they
should have to.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Have the game. Well, they got a hard time admitting that,
and I understand that they got a hard time admitting it.
It's a hard pedal swallow for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
But I I for me personally, I don't think the
Apple Cup is as fun when I hear Cougar fans
say they don't give a damn anymore and they want
the game to be canceled. I mean, I bring this
up with Ian by the way, like off the air
during a break and he looks like somebody just kicked
his dog.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
You know, He's always been since the day want It,
since the day we broke off, he's been right.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
But I think a lot of Cougar fans agree with him, Dick,
I think a lot of Couter fans agree with him.
I think your wife to say that jan is now
more fired up than ever for the Apple Cup, I
think she's in the extreme.

Speaker 3 (28:57):
I'm just saying, I'm she's as fired up as like
it hasn't gone down.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
He still thinks she's in the minority, and that's great.
Good for her. See, I still think she's in the minority.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I still think that Washington State football can be something
in this new era of college can't where we're gonna
have two separate leagues, they can be dominant in that second.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Well, do we want how about this? We'll hear from
Koug's on the text line four nine four or five one?
Do you have interest in this thin continuing through twenty
eight I put a poll out, uh seven days ago
and it was seventy percent yes, thirty percent? No, who
knows who's voting in that thing? How many Huskies? How
many Koogs? And we can't really tell, we can't filter.
You gotta be honest, you know, don't don't you lie

(29:37):
to us on the text line. Cougar fans, you're out there,
four nine, four or five one? Do you want to
just identify yourself? I'm Bob the Kug, I'm Jim the Koug,
I'm John mccug. Do you want to see this thing continue?
But when the current yeah, when the current agreement ends
after the twenty eighth season, do you want to see
it continue?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
All right?

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(30:26):
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did you happen to hear that?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
What's that? Dick?

Speaker 1 (31:55):
We started the w A NBA. Let's start with the
current controversy.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Dejon A. Carrington is that correction right hard foul.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
On Indiana Sophie Cunningham last weekend yesterday, where her Fever
coach Stephanie White defend Carrington for the foul on her
own player. This morning on Wake Up Barstool, uh Dick's
favorite sports talk personality, Dave Portnoy sharing some thoughts on
Stephanie White's comments.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
Stephanie White, I've been a defender the coach of the Fever.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Get her out of there, Get her out of.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
There, fire her ass today.

Speaker 6 (32:30):
I don't want her back on that bench. Stop defending
the other players. Oh she plays hard, DJ, that's just
her being her. Defend your players. First of all, you're wrong.
It was a dirty plage. He's gone. But when do
you ever see in like the NBA a coach not
defend their own players.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
She hasn't done it with Caitlyn.

Speaker 6 (32:52):
When Kaitlyn got punched in the throat, she didn't do it.
I don't care if you agree with her or not.
You're wrong, but it starts to make me think you
care more about the overlying social issues and not pissing
off other people in the league. And this isn't politics.
Your player got assaulted, get her the hell out of there,
either defend your players to get lost.

Speaker 2 (33:14):
I totally agree with him.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
I said the exact same thing to you on the
air yesterday that if it was a Sonic, if the
Sonics came back and our coach did that about an
opposing player and did not have his own players back,
I would have called for the guy to be fired
that night. I thought it was pathetic on her part.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
How about you.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
Yeah, there's I'm looking at there's already fever like fan
sites that put that she was fired, right, so it
was like getting.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Or whatever.

Speaker 3 (33:44):
I mean, I'm not as angry about it as Dave Portnoy,
but I just don't understand it. I mean, I guess
I just don't understand. Yes, she coached djn A Carrington
a couple of three years ago, but I don't understand
why you needed to go that.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
What would you do if Dix was playing a basketball
game got closed lined by an opposing player and his
head coach had that guy's back.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
You'd be pissed, be happy, you'd be pissed as a father.

Speaker 3 (34:08):
And I don't think and you looking at Caitlin Clark
and the breast conference didn't look like.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Oh my God, who was the gal sitting next to
Stephanie White? Because there's three there's three decent names on
the Fever roster.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
This Camy Mitchell.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
I think so. And she was rolling her eyes too.
Both of them are like, are you kidding me? Like,
what the hell's going on here? Man? Hey, Dick, did
you happen to hear that? That's that? Dick.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Let's stay on that topic, but shift gears to a
WNBA legend storm legend. Supe Bird weighing in on the
WNBA controversy between Carrington and Cunningham on NBC Sports, including
how political the situation has become.

Speaker 7 (34:42):
I do think that there are people trying to leverage
our league for their own personal gain. And in my
experience as a player, particularly in twenty twenty, what I
learned is you have tough conversations behind closed doors. You strategize,
and that's how you figure out how to, for lack
of a better defend yourselves and defend what this league
has built. That requires leadership and really on all levels,

(35:03):
from the players, from the union, from the league, you
name it, us who are covering the game. It requires
that leadership. So that's what I think we need to
start to do.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I love Sue Byrd, I do take a little bit
of issue with what she said there. And it's not
just her who's saying this. A lot of other people
are dick. I don't think it's just people outside the league,
it seems. I think it's a lot of people inside
the league, including the commissioner, including players. Because Carrington was
the one after she got after she hammered Sophie Cunningham,

(35:32):
who went into the locker room and tweeted out white
privilege with the Fever logo, and so that spurred this
entire conversation.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
Now there's this report that the league has.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Got to go behind closed doors and figure out what
their definition of a woman is, right, that's something they
got to be prepared for.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
You have these two idiots. They're both dumbas, all right, they're.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Both they're both idiots, okay, but they got to figure
all that stuff out. The league is always been open
and honest and outward with their political affiliations. They've never
hid that stuff. So I don't think this is just
about outside voices and bad actors that are making this political.
And if you paid attention to the WNBA for five minutes,

(36:15):
you'd realize that.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
No, that's exactly.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
They've probably been the most political of any of the sports,
no question.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
Right. And you know I and.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
I said yesterday, and I still believe that that all
attention is good attention. However, I do believe within the
New York Times article today, it was a well written
article today that said, Okay, you're getting to a point
like their crosses at some point is going to cross
a threshold where if these things keep happening and it
becomes more of a circus than it is a competition,

(36:43):
then that's a bad thing. We may be getting to
that point. We may not be getting that point, but
we certainly have more controversy now than we did six
months ago.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
Right, I mean, it just feels like the temperature just
needs to be turned away. That's fair. Don't you think
they needed a new commissioner? Right? Like?

Speaker 1 (36:58):
How great would it be to go and get somebody
who's run a league, who's run a major sports marketing agency,
TV network, whatever. It just kind of feels like, is
it Engelbert?

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Is that right? Kathy Engelberg, that.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
She's just kind of lost control, that the players don't
even really like her, you know, I mean what is
she doing there? Like Adam Silver is well liked by
the NBA players, correct, very well liked. And I'm not
sure if Kathy Engelbert there's a few commissions back, not
very well. Sure, right, Yeah, they might need a new one, Dick,
they might need a new one. I'd actually be surprised

(37:32):
if she was back next year. We got time for
one more. Please six quickly, six, let's quit a number
six quickly?

Speaker 2 (37:40):
He says, Hey, Dick, did you happen to hear that?
What's that? Dick?

Speaker 1 (37:44):
Before the first pitch of last night's Mets Braves game,
Sports Net New York broadcaster Ron Darling, the former met himself,
made Brett Bati his pick to click for the game.
Less than ten minutes later, the Mets third baseman paid
off the pick with a grand slam.

Speaker 8 (37:58):
You should talk about the pitch, sure, his stuff whatever.
Today I'm going to discuss that. I think that Brett
Batty is one of the few Mets who hasn't really
got going offensively of late. I think he matches up
beautifully against Elder. He's my pick to click tonight, and.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
He flies when the deep right center failed back goes
Harris to the warning tracks, looking up and it's out
of hair.

Speaker 8 (38:21):
Fred Batty with a grand slam.

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Ronnie's picked to click and hey, click for four runs?

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Ronnie had you do it?

Speaker 5 (38:29):
Really?

Speaker 2 (38:31):
By the way, do you guys know who Brett Beatty is?

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Is that Jim Beatty's kid?

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Nope, that's Gimby from Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Wait, what what?

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I just looked up Brett Batty on ig and he
came up, Brett Beatty, Gimbley the troll, gimme the dwarf
of the Dwarf the Lord of the Rings is the
actor's name is Brett Beatty, not Brett Batty.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
But here's the thing. A good for him.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
But you know what, how many times has run Darling
Dick made it pick to click that did not turn out?

Speaker 2 (38:59):
And the one time out of one hundred you get
to hear that.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
God, it's good, you know, it's good to give give
guys some credit for making it making a pick. Hey,
By the way, if the Mets can win six of
seven Camp, the Mariners wins abs freakingly. I mean, there
was no bigger trash can in baseball than the Rests.
Over the first three and a half months of the season,
Ryan They've won six of their last seven.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Games, and Ryan really good.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
It all starts with Brian Woo tonight, guys, I'm telling
you right now, when Dick and I are back here
in late October watching the Mariners on the World Series,
we're all gonna remember this night.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Write it down.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
August eleventh, Brian wu gets it going and the m's
going to hot streak. Start it all starts tonight. Alright,
We're gonna gonna break. Greg Bell will join us talk
to Hawks and four twenty ninety three three KJRFM

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