August 7, 2026 • 32 mins
In the third hour, Mr. Mariner, Alvin Davis joins the show to talk about how honored he is to be apart of this celebration and how proud he is of the organization, how he loved the King Dome and favorite memories as a Mariners player. Then Chuck Powell calls in to talk all things M's and how disappointing they are playing right now, whether Dan Wilson needs to go and who Chuck would replace him with.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's go across the street again. We're gonna bust in here.
Go across the street to T Mobile Park, and welcome
to a guy who for many, many, many, many many
many years and I still think today is mister Mariner.
Alvin Davis is joining us right now on the show
from T Mobile Park. Ad It's Softy and Dick fain
On kJ are here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
How are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey guys, I'm doing great. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's great to hear your voice and as always, you
are just positive. You're enthusiastic, you're excited to be here.
I can hear it in your voice. Tell me about
and tell the listeners what it means to you to
be on this top fifty list and be in town
for this event this weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, you know, so many of these, you know, recognitions
and awards and celebrations are just kind of pinched me
moments because you know, I go back forty years ago.
I mean I could have never envisioned this, and just
it's such an honor to be a part of this group,
a part of the organization, and the Mariners do it right.
(01:03):
I mean, we set the standard when it comes to
these types of celebrations, and so glad that you know,
we're building on the legacy that has been laid here
by the players that came through and did their best,
you know, to make this organization what it has become.
So it's an honor to be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
You know, when you say, Alvin that you could never
envision this.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I was thinking back about when you're playing first base,
and every time you played first base at home, you
looked up and saw a gray roof, and now you
look up and it's seventy five degrees.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Can you imagine? Did you ever once think.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
God, what it would be like to play a home
game outside at Seattle in the summertime?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, you know, I mean obviously T Mobile safegu Field
and its origins is progress, and yeah, you know, with
the ability to close the roof. But I have to
be honest with you, the Kingdome was something that we
aspired to. It was the place that we wanted to
get to get to coming up through the minor league,
(02:03):
and it was a dream stadium because it was a
major league stadium. And so you know, as young players
coming up through the minor league system, we weren't picky
about where we play the Kingdome. We want to make
it to the Kingdom because that's where the Mariners play,
and so the Kingdom will always have a fond place
in my heart.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I wish that we could have had more incredible moments,
but we had our fair share, you know. And there's
there're no ballpark, None of the modern ballparks fold as
many fans as the Kingdome could could hold. And I
tell you what, when we packed that thing out, there
was no place like it. It was so loud in
their visiting teams couldn't even hear themselves think. So I
(02:46):
have fond memories of the Kingdome. Would I have loved
to play here tea Mobile, Absolutely, But but yeah, I'll
keep my dreams and my memories close to my heart. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, Alvin Davis, mister Mariner, was with us on the
A and Ady Dick and I are old enough to
remember in nineteen ninety one when you guys finally broke
through right and finished over five hundred.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
The exact quote, I think you said something like, nobody
can ever call me a loser ever again, because you
guys finished over five hundred and then for some stupid reason,
they fired Jim lefeverra I have no idea why that was.
But what did that, honestly in the moment mean to
you that year to be a member of the first
(03:29):
team to go over five hundred and do you remember,
I think you left and went to the Angels the
next season as well. Why did they get rid of
Jim Lefever after what he did that year?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh gosh, you know what. I was not in the
room where those those conversations happened, So yeah, I can't
even comment on that. I can comment on what it
felt like. You know, we were down in Texas and
you know, if you look back at the record, we
had a few seasons where we were seventy six seventy
seventy eight wins, which is close, right, it's close to,
(04:02):
you know, being at five hundred or over the five
hundred mark. And I don't know why, but back in
those days, it just felt like if you won more
games than you lost, even if it was eighty two
and eighty, you just felt relevant. You know, you felt
like you were a part of the discussion. And so
you know, we had gotten close, but we weren't able
to be you know, to finish the season strong enough
to have a winning record, and then in ninety one,
(04:25):
all of a sudden, we're there, like, man, we've won
eighty games. That's the first time in my career we
had won eighty games. And it's like we can do this.
This in middle of September, like it's going to happen.
And so, you know, I guess after fourteen seasons, right,
because we started in seventy seven, so ninety one would
have been our fourteenth or maybe fifteenth, I can't remember
(04:45):
the map, but that's a lot of years of either
being really bad or close, but no Cigar. And so
there was just this tremendous sense of release and a
unique type of accomplishment. No, we knew that we he
didn't win the American League West and going to the
American League Championship Series, but we just felt like, for
(05:06):
one thing, that that part of the narrative was over.
You know, the whole win of the Mariner is going
to figure it out and become a winning franchise. That
was over. That was history, and now it's like, Okay,
let's go on and do what we feel like we're
capable of doing. And that's being a challenger in the
American League webs.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Alvin Davis joining us a ad.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You mentioned some of the you remember great moments of
your times both of the kingdomen on the road for
the Mariners. What are something that stick that stick out
to you that you would like to share, Like, what
are a moment or two from your career here that
you just remember really really fondly.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, golly, I remember my good buddy Mark
Langston our rookie year together. You know, he was I
think he finished second in the Rookie of the Year voting,
and you know he was the Rookie pitcher of the year,
you know in some of the polls and the publications
that were out then, and you know, seventeen and ten.
You know, this is my good buddy, right. We came
through the minor leagues together. We were roommates on the
(06:04):
road in eighty four and actually a few years after that.
So we're you know, we're more like brothers than teammates.
And so you know, to see him win seventeen games
as a rookie and lead the American League in strikeouts
with two hundred and five, that's just an amazing memory.
For me, it was something that I will always cherish.
And you know then, of course, you know, we talked
(06:25):
about the ninety one season, but you know, I think
it was nineteen ninety when Randy threw his first no
hitter at the Kingdome against the Detroit Tigers. You know,
that's an amazing memory, is the first first no hitter
that I was ever a part of. But you know
that no hitter fits into the broader narrative of a
legend's career. You know, I feel like that was just
(06:47):
another step that Randy took in his career to become
the dominant pitcher that we all remember, and you know,
it was all a part of his growth. So those
are fond memories as well. And you know, I got
to play that game that year, was a little bit
of a first ay D eight split in time with
Pete O'Brien, but I got to play defense that year
and be on the field, you know when Randy recorded
(07:09):
that twenty seventh out and got that no hitter. So yeah,
you know, I mean, then, you know, we guys, how
long do we have to talk about the Griffies? You know,
just you know Junior, you know, with him being in
town and getting to see him a good buddy, and
and you know, just seeing him come up and you know,
establish himself as the best player in the American League
and probably, you know, arguably the best player in all
(07:30):
of baseball. To see that be able to come to
life and have a front row seat to that development
and that maturity was just amazing. And then of course
again you know, nineteen ninety being able to you know,
to put on the same uniform as Senior and Junior
and just the goosebumps of you know, when Senior joined
us in made his debut at the Kingdome and and
(07:53):
you know, we go out. We used to take the
national anthem on the field those days, you remember that,
and so you know, we ran out to our positions
and you know, everyone stands up and they salute the flag,
and you know, the flag was on the wall against
left field, right, and so I'm looking out past left
center field and I see Griffy and Griffy and it
hits me like, you know, the historical moment just hits
(08:15):
me like this has never happened before in the history
of this game that's been played over one hundred years.
And it may not happen again in my lifetime. And
not only am I here to witnesses, I'm on the
lineup card, So you know, moments like that. I could
go on and on mind, but you know, when my
buddy Harold Reynolds led the league in stolen bases. I mean,
(08:36):
there's just so many iconic memories of my time here
in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what I remember. I remember
Dennis Secresy. I remember forty seven games in a row
getting on base, the start a career. You think Dennis
Secresy Ever sits at home and just has nightmares about
you ruining that day for him.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What do you remember about that, man, Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're forty seven games in a row on base, best
rookie start ever in the history of the game, free
run bomb off of Eck in your very first game
as a major leaguer.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Tell me you still have your jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The bat, you got the ball, something from that game.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know, because some of that stuff ended
up in Cooperstown. But you know, I just kind of
chuckled when you said that, because you know, when Eck
became a reliever and he was the most dominant reliever
in the American League with the Oakland As.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Eck got his revenge.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I don't think he's having nightmares about that first game
because he got the last left.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, he was some.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Kind of closer, some kind of a competitor. And yeah,
you know, they're back in those days, there weren't very
many closers that had command, that could just paint the edges,
and so that's one of the things that set Eck apart.
He still had the stuff, right, but but but he
had the command of a starter, you know. And so yeah,
so he was a rough at bat, but but you know, yeah,
(10:01):
you know, the story is what it is, and uh yeah,
it's a part of my legacy, and so I cherished
that memory.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I think that's still a record. I don't think anybody's
being that record. By the way, forty seven straight games
to start a career.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So hey, Ad, it's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You you sound exactly the same as you did forty
years ago. Man, So whatever you're doing, it's working, man,
keep it up. Congrats on the top fifty and we'll
see you out there at the park.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Man City appreciated, appreciated, a good lunch taking chair of
you guys. Yeah, that's all great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Alvin Davis with us on the radio show for old
guys like us. He was the first true heron, He
was the first true start.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We seeattle, We.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Just talked to Harold Reynolds and Alvin Davis.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
That's right, and that you and I are being taken
back to our twelve thirteen year old selves right now.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
No question, man, we are showing you how old we
crew we are, and we are damn old.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
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Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, I think we have just made history here
on the air. By the way, they fame.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What's that only radio show to give you a hair? Reynolds,
Brett Boone, Alvin Davis talk about a deformed raccoon and
a podcast link for a skin condition.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean, what more do you want.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We're covering everything here on the radio station. Well, join us.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm the here, uh, the only guy that you really
need to listen to. I actually woke up this morning
dying to hear this guy's take on what happened yesterday
in the Mariners game. Our friend Chuck Pale joining us
right now on a Friday afternoon. Chuck, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
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would you like to make a skin lamp?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Can you bring over the big fat lady while you're
at it?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Is she a great, big fat person?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Who's listen to make a skin lamp out of her?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm gonna tell you right now, if you stick your
wiener between your legs, we got a problem.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
By the way, do not do that. What is this happened?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Silence of the lambs?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Way too late?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Good lord, dude, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, First of all, we've had Harold Reynolds on
the air. We've had Brett Boone on the air. We've
got Alvin Davis on the air. There's a celebratory mood
in the air about tonight and tomorrow for the top fifty.
But there's also a little bit of a pall right
in the air because of the way this baseball team
is playing. And we thought Tuesday was rock bottom, and
(12:52):
then yesterday said, hello, it can be worse. What is
your take, my friend, on what we've seen the last
three game was against the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, it just continues to be highly disappointing. And
I heard you guys show yesterday, and I heard Dick's comment,
and I mean, I get it that you right now,
you've proven that you are this team and the outlier
is a good game. And it's frustrating because I mean,
I just heard Jerry Depoto in an interview on MLB
(13:24):
Network and he's saying what I believe, And I don't
think they should come as a surprise to anyone that's
listened to my show or has listened to Jerry during
the course of the year. They believe they've got the talent,
they believe that they should win this division and that
a streak is coming. But it is getting harder and
harder and harder to believe that sentiment. I get it
(13:45):
from everyone, but the only thing that I could say
is baseball is weird. And even though for four months
this has been a bad baseball team to this point
in the season, somehow it really only takes because of
the cooperation you've got from other teams in the American League,
Western throughout the American League. You go on a good run,
(14:08):
it doesn't even have to be like a ten game
winning streak. Win eight out of ten and you're in
first place in this division, and then you can settle
it down the stretch. So we're just waiting on that.
I mean, every team in Major League Baseball has a
stretch where they overplay, they play beyond their abilities and
have a good ten day fourteen game streak. Colorado Rockies
(14:29):
do it. This team has not come up with that
streak this entire season. Highly frustrating. I'm tired of it.
You're tired of it. Dick's tired of it. The entire
listening audience is tired of it. But the bottom line
is that there's still forty six games to play, and
maybe there is a stretch. They have the talent to
do it. They got a deeper lineup, they've got good
(14:50):
pitching most nights, they've got the ability to still pull
this thing off, but it is really frustrating waiting on it.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Well, you were the first person on the station and
I still think the only person on the station that said, Okay,
enough's enough time for Dan Wilson to go.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I don't know if you heard Jerry Brewer on with
us yesterday.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
His quote was, I think they'd be five to eight
games better with a different coaching staff. He says, don't
even bring me the best manager in baseball, Bring me
the eighth best manager in baseball, and they'd be in
first place.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Give me the eighty eighth? I mean, seriously, I mean no,
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I
guarantee you there there are a lot of guys that
don't have managerial jobs right now that would have done
a better job with this team. And I'm not I mean,
I'm not laying at all at Dan Wilson's feet, but
the manager does have to be held responsible for four
(15:44):
months of underperforming. So I would have done this coming
out of the All Star break, and frankly, guys, Scott
Servis was fired on August twenty second, and Dan Wilson
stepped in for him and just a new voice. Yeah,
created such momentum that you ended up making a run
toward the playoffs that year and missed one game short.
(16:07):
So we're not to August twenty second, yet it's still
to me I would not I would still make the
move after this weekend and make a managerial change, maybe
a different voice. You catch fire with that, and I
would hate to get to the end of this year
and miss the playoffs by one game because you waited
(16:29):
too long to make that decision.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Right, Well, okay, so let's live in that world for
a second, all right, Because the Red Sox fired Alex
Cora and they promoted Chad Tracy, right, Chad Tracy was
on the staff and they made him the interim manager.
And now they're thirty one and five, about to be
maybe thirty two and five because they're kicking the White
Sox ass right now.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But he was on staff.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know if I really need to see Manny
Acta manage this baseball team, do you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know, would you be in favor of that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Or would you go outside the organization go get a
you know, a Brent Snicker, Bruce Bochie, somebody of that ilk.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
What would you do if you did remove Dan on Monday?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Well, I mean credit to the Red Sox. I mean,
Breslo may have been onto something with Cora, but that's
a guy with winning experience. We'd have to get over
the whole Astros thing. But the Cora name has value
in this town. I think he's available, and I think
a lot of people would love to manage this roster,
would love to have this pitching staff and the talent
(17:35):
on this roster and see what they can do with it.
I mean that's probably where I would go, and I
think you could talk him into that. But I would
say beyond this year, I think it's almost time to
make a trade, like a Lou Panela Randy Wynn kind
of thing. Kevin Cash, we're going to be facing the
next three days. That is as good a young manager.
(17:59):
He's analytics, he's a little bit old school, he's clever,
he's kind, he's funny. The players love him. I think
maybe this offseason i'd trade a player, I mean, not
one of our best, but I'd trade a player for
Kevin Cash in the offseason in order to get the
right guy or Steven Vote, who I just heard off
(18:20):
the Air. I won't tell you from who would love
to come back to Seattle because he realizes how much
talent that there is on this roster and never really
wanted to leave in the first place. I would just
target one of the two best young managers in the
sport right now, and I'd go get him in the offseason.
In the interim, you know, I imagine they're staying with Dan,
(18:41):
but you guys know my feelings on that. I still
think there's time to save this season, and I'm not
sure he's the guy that will save it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Chuck.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
A lot has been made of the schedule upcoming for
the Mariners. I don't know how much I make of
it because I just feel like this baseball team can
play totally crappy against crap teams and could potentially blow
away good teams. So how much do you make of
the schedule over the next three weeks.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, if I'd rather it be light, and I'd
rather us have a lot of games against an A's
team that's kind of folded here down the stretch. But
I agree with you one thousand percent. This team is
so weird and it's not just this year. This is
the way this team's operated through throughout the entire Jerry
Depoto era. There have been two times, and you know,
you guys know how positive I've been about the way
(19:29):
that this roster has been structured over the years, and
there have been two times where I have given up
actively on the team, and the moment I did, they
took off. You know, they put together some like eleven
game winning streak or or fifteen out of seventeen or
whatever the case may be, and either rallied to get
(19:50):
to the playoffs or just fell short. I mean, we've
had a couple of episodes like that, so to me,
you know, you never know what kind of lightning you're
going to catch in the bottle. But I don't really
look at the opponent because they play as they seem
to play better against better competition, and I think that's
been their trademark here for the last few years. So
(20:12):
I'd rather have a lighter schedule, But I don't think
it has anything to do with the opponent. If this
team plays the way they're capable of, no matter the
opponent down the stretch, they should win a weak American
League West period.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, they're pretty much the same against plus five hundred
versus under five hundred teams this year. I guess to
me today one of the bigger stories is and I'm
not surprised in the moment by it. I'm not even
saying it's the wrong move, but Chuck, it is a
little bit stunning when you think of the season in total,
(20:48):
that on August the seventh, cal Rawley's hitting eighth in
the Mariners lineup and Julio is hitting fifth.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean, when you first saw that, what was your reaction.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I think it's the right thing to do. I mean,
I talk to you guys after the trading deadline, and
I liked the moves. I don't think anybody loved the moves,
but I like the moves that.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The Castillo move was smart for the future, had no
impact on this team. Taylor Ward seemed like he did
satisfy your two weaknesses. And on base guy a guy
that can hit lefties presently, not six months ago, but
right now he's hitting lefties. Those seemed like smart, you know, moves,
not overly aggressive moves. But I told you the day
(21:32):
after when I came on with you, or the day
of the trading deadline, that this is really going to
come down to whether or not you can get Raleigh,
Julio or Naylor two of the three. Don't need all
of them. Two of the three have to start performing,
not like superstars, but not like duds, not like guys
that shouldn't even be in the lineup, which is where,
(21:55):
unfortunately we've got to discuss cal Rolly. He's having about
his bad at season as anyone in the entire sport.
So those two guys just catch fire a little bit,
two of the.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Three of them.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's it. I'm not getting greedy. You do that, they
pick up the slack and you will. You will win
the division. You'll make up those three games against the Astros,
and you will win the American League West. The Astros
have a desperate need for starting pitching. They didn't even
address it at the trading deadline. They are obviously vulnerable,
and all it takes is for the Mariners to play
(22:31):
close to their capabilities. And that starts with cal Rawley,
and then secondarily it's Julio Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
No doubt, no doubt, Chuck, you're the man, great stuff,
and we will hear you on Monday morning at six am.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You're the bests.
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Lineups for tonight's game one of three.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Against the Rays are out a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Taylor Ward leading off, playing right, Koyong at second, Randy
or Rose Arena and left Dom Canzo to dh and
now things get weird. Julio hitting fifth, playing center, Josh
Naylor hitting six, playing first base, Brandon Donovan hitting seventh,
playing third base, Cal Rowley hitting eighth, playing catcher, and
Colt Emerson at shortstop hitting ninth with Logan Gilbert on
(24:09):
the mound against Drew Rasmussen from Spokane, Washington. Born in Palla,
but I went to high school and Spokane went to
Oregon State. Dan Wilson marin her manager before game one
of three tonight against the Rays.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Game one here with with Tampa.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
You know obviously, you know we just saw these guys
right before the break and and uh, you know, a
chance to to kind of get back on the right foot.
And uh, you know with Detroit yesterday, tough loss for sure,
but uh, you know, a chance to come out today.
It starts this series on the right foot. Logan on
the hill, you know, continues to throw the ball well
for us and uh looking for a good outing from
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him and grasp musing on their side, you know, throws
the ball well and and uh, you know, offensively, he
attacks his own. He doesn't walk a lot of guys,
and so you know, be aggressive and and and ready.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
To hit against Rasmussen.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
Tonight, Dan Acas through your perspective of yesterday's game and
obviously how you were feeling.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Does not being able to you know, be there contributing.
Speaker 11 (25:05):
Any kind of way.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Yeah, you know, the suspensions are tough, and and uh,
you know, you don't you don't like being in in
that kind of a situation. And uh, you know, I
think we found ourselves on the wrong end of it
early and then just you know, couldn't find our way back.
I thought Framburgh, you know, threw the ball well for him,
He attacked his own and didn't didn't give us much
(25:27):
chance to get much.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Traffic going, and and uh, you know, it was just
one of those days and and we move on from that,
and then we.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Start the new series today, and you know, I think this.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Is a good test for us as a good team.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
And we saw him right before the break, and you know,
we didn't win the series, but a chance here at
home now to to win the series.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
And then you haven't idea of games timeline yet how
easy healing everything that I have not.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Heard a timeline yet on on his appeal and and uh,
you know how it's all worked out.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
But you know, I think we'll we'll know more here
in the next few days.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
And a mentioned Rascals send the tack of this out
of the past few games, and that's not a lot
of the close, hard hit malls just hasn't has.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
A landed safe.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
If you think that that kind of tread maybe helping
you guys against the Manchuer who's attacking this sound like
he is.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, it is
all about barrels. It's about finding the barrel and hit
it hard and hit the ball on the line and uh,
you know, getting the ball up in the air. We
saw Julio get the big clear on him the other day,
and so yeah, finding the barrels is what we want
to do.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
And you know, a guy like Raspus and he's not
just gonna throw it down the hill. He's gonna work
the edge and he's gonna he's gonna make it difficult.
But anytime we find barrel, that's that's a that's a
good thing. And hopefully there's more of that.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Tonight then just not physically, but just none only as well.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
What's your level of concern for.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
These guys right now at this point of the season,
after this last year. I think it's good, you know,
I think you know, we know that.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
We have our destinies in front of us, and and yeah,
it's it's it's been an up and down year and
and uh you know we we uh we've.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Got you know, some time here to get things turned around.
And that's what we want to do. We want to
start tonight and in.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
This game, in this series, Uh, you know, getting back
to the Mariner baseball that that you know, we know
we're capable of.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
And you know, I'm excited about where.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Our guys are at and uh, you know the mental
spot that they're in and and uh, you know, we
just got to keep you know, staying in that positive
mindset and making adjustments out on the field to make
it happen course and get the w We need to
find a way.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
It's the time of year where you need to find
a way. And you know that's why I know what
our guys are going to do. Last year, when each
grow has life retired, that.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Kind of came a vout and called for the team
as it entirely stretched you. You want to make this week,
you know, just legends of the organization out of that
could any prize and entertainment.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Stuff that no doubt.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I mean, I think that's always the case when you
when you have you know, you see.
Speaker 12 (27:53):
Some of the history of some of the legacy, some
of the tradition that's been a part of this organization,
and uh yeah, of course it gives you a lift then,
you know, it's it's it is great on personal level
that to see everybody back and be a part of
this weekend. But I do think on on a team level,
you know, you hear the stories and you understand, uh,
you know what it takes and and uh, you know,
(28:14):
I think our guys have a good awareness of that.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
You know, it's it can be a huge positive lifform
and and uh you know, I think.
Speaker 13 (28:22):
Like you mentioned last year, with each row it did
become a rallying cry, and uh even hopefully this year
we continue to find that same energy and focus coming
out of this series.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Here again.
Speaker 11 (28:35):
A non serious baseball question category No not asked me
about Jimpy or whatever that thing is.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
What do you think it's gonna who do you who's
gonna win the derby? Who are you gonna put money
out of you? Because that's too easy. If somebody else
other than who's gonna win. That's way too long. That's
just cheating. I say that, well, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
I would put my money on on Ryan Rowls, but
I know he's le handed, so that's probably the easiest
way to leave.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
The ball player.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
And they say you don't have a sense again.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, there you go, Dan Wilson officially picking Ryan
Rowland Smith to win the humbrunnerby glad that we have
that intel. By the way, look, I mean he is
as far as his approach to this whole thing, he
is very stubborn. He's not changing at all for anybody.
He's not going outside the box. He's not going to
be somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
We've asked for a little more fire, obviously, and that
is not happening. And I think as long as this
thing goes, if they do find a way Dick to
overcome this and get to the playoffs, his calm.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Demeanor will be one of the reasons why.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But if it doesn't happen, yes, and they missed the
playoffs's calm demeanor might be one of the reasons why.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
No, There's there's no question about it, and there's no
way he's going to get fired Between now and the
end of the season, I think we can just forget them.
Forget you don't know, John Stanton, if you think he's
doing that's a good chance.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Do you think the Mariners are more like Cleveland Texas
and the Whites more like the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think that they are more like Cleveland, Texas in
the West.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I'm glad you said that, Okay, because against Cleveland Texas
and Chicago this past week and a half, they played
seven games and they scored fourteen runs.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
In those seven games, two runs a game.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Then they played Colorado and scored twenty six in three
games against Colorado. Now they're back to seeing pitching that
looks more like Cleveland, Texas and Chicago, and this offense.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
For the Rays has really struggled.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I think we see it one to one game in
the sixth tonight between Logan Gilbert and Drew Rasmus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well, look, man, it's all it's It usually is a
battle of bullpens when it comes to games like this.
And I don't know, man, I'm the idiot Mariner fan
who thinks like the ride the roller coaster from one
day to the next.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We're done we're back in it, we're out.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
We have a chance, right, I mean, you can't make
up your mind, but these guys will show us what
they are. And so far it's been a massive disappointment.
Just the fact that we're even struggling to even be
relevant is a massive disappointment.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
If I told.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You back in March that in the American League West
on the seventh of August, the leading team would be
two games over five hundred, you would have said, are
you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
That's the Mariners number one and number two? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Or if I even told you back in March the
Astros are fifteen hundred and fifty seven, the Rangers are
a game under you would have thought the Ams would
be ten games up right now with those records.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So it's pretty huge Downard at this point.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And even if you said the in March that the
Mariners are one and a half game out of a
playoff spot in three games out of the West, you
wouldn't have taken it, but you wouldn't have been like, oh,
this is a disaster of the season. You probably would
have thought the Mariners were four or five games over
five hundred and playing okay, Baseball to be that close
to the playoffs. But the fact is that the water
level has gone down so low in the American League
(31:51):
where almost every team is just below five hundred. I mean,
you've got five six teams between one under and four
under five hundred, just in the American League.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, all right, we're gonna break. Brett Boone's gonna join
us around six twenty tonight. We continue from Jimmy's on
first right here on ninety three three KJRFM
Let's go across the street again. We're gonna bust in here.
Go across the street to T Mobile Park, and welcome
to a guy who for many, many, many, many many
many years and I still think today is mister Mariner.
Alvin Davis is joining us right now on the show
from T Mobile Park. Ad It's Softy and Dick fain
On kJ are here in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
How are you? Man?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Hey guys, I'm doing great. How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
We are good.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
It's great to hear your voice and as always, you
are just positive. You're enthusiastic, you're excited to be here.
I can hear it in your voice. Tell me about
and tell the listeners what it means to you to
be on this top fifty list and be in town
for this event this weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Man.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
Yeah, you know, so many of these, you know, recognitions
and awards and celebrations are just kind of pinched me
moments because you know, I go back forty years ago.
I mean I could have never envisioned this, and just
it's such an honor to be a part of this group,
a part of the organization, and the Mariners do it right.
(01:03):
I mean, we set the standard when it comes to
these types of celebrations, and so glad that you know,
we're building on the legacy that has been laid here
by the players that came through and did their best,
you know, to make this organization what it has become.
So it's an honor to be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (01:21):
You know, when you say, Alvin that you could never
envision this.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
I was thinking back about when you're playing first base,
and every time you played first base at home, you
looked up and saw a gray roof, and now you
look up and it's seventy five degrees.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Can you imagine? Did you ever once think.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
God, what it would be like to play a home
game outside at Seattle in the summertime?
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, you know, I mean obviously T Mobile safegu Field
and its origins is progress, and yeah, you know, with
the ability to close the roof. But I have to
be honest with you, the Kingdome was something that we
aspired to. It was the place that we wanted to
get to get to coming up through the minor league,
(02:03):
and it was a dream stadium because it was a
major league stadium. And so you know, as young players
coming up through the minor league system, we weren't picky
about where we play the Kingdome. We want to make
it to the Kingdom because that's where the Mariners play,
and so the Kingdom will always have a fond place
in my heart.
Speaker 5 (02:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
I wish that we could have had more incredible moments,
but we had our fair share, you know. And there's
there're no ballpark, None of the modern ballparks fold as
many fans as the Kingdome could could hold. And I
tell you what, when we packed that thing out, there
was no place like it. It was so loud in
their visiting teams couldn't even hear themselves think. So I
(02:46):
have fond memories of the Kingdome. Would I have loved
to play here tea Mobile, Absolutely, But but yeah, I'll
keep my dreams and my memories close to my heart. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Well, Alvin Davis, mister Mariner, was with us on the
A and Ady Dick and I are old enough to
remember in nineteen ninety one when you guys finally broke
through right and finished over five hundred.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Yeah, trying to remember.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
The exact quote, I think you said something like, nobody
can ever call me a loser ever again, because you
guys finished over five hundred and then for some stupid reason,
they fired Jim lefeverra I have no idea why that was.
But what did that, honestly in the moment mean to
you that year to be a member of the first
(03:29):
team to go over five hundred and do you remember,
I think you left and went to the Angels the
next season as well. Why did they get rid of
Jim Lefever after what he did that year?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Oh gosh, you know what. I was not in the
room where those those conversations happened, So yeah, I can't
even comment on that. I can comment on what it
felt like. You know, we were down in Texas and
you know, if you look back at the record, we
had a few seasons where we were seventy six seventy
seventy eight wins, which is close, right, it's close to,
(04:02):
you know, being at five hundred or over the five
hundred mark. And I don't know why, but back in
those days, it just felt like if you won more
games than you lost, even if it was eighty two
and eighty, you just felt relevant. You know, you felt
like you were a part of the discussion. And so
you know, we had gotten close, but we weren't able
to be you know, to finish the season strong enough
to have a winning record, and then in ninety one,
(04:25):
all of a sudden, we're there, like, man, we've won
eighty games. That's the first time in my career we
had won eighty games. And it's like we can do this.
This in middle of September, like it's going to happen.
And so, you know, I guess after fourteen seasons, right,
because we started in seventy seven, so ninety one would
have been our fourteenth or maybe fifteenth, I can't remember
(04:45):
the map, but that's a lot of years of either
being really bad or close, but no Cigar. And so
there was just this tremendous sense of release and a
unique type of accomplishment. No, we knew that we he
didn't win the American League West and going to the
American League Championship Series, but we just felt like, for
(05:06):
one thing, that that part of the narrative was over.
You know, the whole win of the Mariner is going
to figure it out and become a winning franchise. That
was over. That was history, and now it's like, Okay,
let's go on and do what we feel like we're
capable of doing. And that's being a challenger in the
American League webs.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Alvin Davis joining us a ad.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
You mentioned some of the you remember great moments of
your times both of the kingdomen on the road for
the Mariners. What are something that stick that stick out
to you that you would like to share, Like, what
are a moment or two from your career here that
you just remember really really fondly.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, I mean, golly, I remember my good buddy Mark
Langston our rookie year together. You know, he was I
think he finished second in the Rookie of the Year voting,
and you know he was the Rookie pitcher of the year,
you know in some of the polls and the publications
that were out then, and you know, seventeen and ten.
You know, this is my good buddy, right. We came
through the minor leagues together. We were roommates on the
(06:04):
road in eighty four and actually a few years after that.
So we're you know, we're more like brothers than teammates.
And so you know, to see him win seventeen games
as a rookie and lead the American League in strikeouts
with two hundred and five, that's just an amazing memory.
For me, it was something that I will always cherish.
And you know then, of course, you know, we talked
(06:25):
about the ninety one season, but you know, I think
it was nineteen ninety when Randy threw his first no
hitter at the Kingdome against the Detroit Tigers. You know,
that's an amazing memory, is the first first no hitter
that I was ever a part of. But you know
that no hitter fits into the broader narrative of a
legend's career. You know, I feel like that was just
(06:47):
another step that Randy took in his career to become
the dominant pitcher that we all remember, and you know,
it was all a part of his growth. So those
are fond memories as well. And you know, I got
to play that game that year, was a little bit
of a first ay D eight split in time with
Pete O'Brien, but I got to play defense that year
and be on the field, you know when Randy recorded
(07:09):
that twenty seventh out and got that no hitter. So yeah,
you know, I mean, then, you know, we guys, how
long do we have to talk about the Griffies? You know,
just you know Junior, you know, with him being in
town and getting to see him a good buddy, and
and you know, just seeing him come up and you know,
establish himself as the best player in the American League
and probably, you know, arguably the best player in all
(07:30):
of baseball. To see that be able to come to
life and have a front row seat to that development
and that maturity was just amazing. And then of course
again you know, nineteen ninety being able to you know,
to put on the same uniform as Senior and Junior
and just the goosebumps of you know, when Senior joined
us in made his debut at the Kingdome and and
(07:53):
you know, we go out. We used to take the
national anthem on the field those days, you remember that,
and so you know, we ran out to our positions
and you know, everyone stands up and they salute the flag,
and you know, the flag was on the wall against
left field, right, and so I'm looking out past left
center field and I see Griffy and Griffy and it
hits me like, you know, the historical moment just hits
(08:15):
me like this has never happened before in the history
of this game that's been played over one hundred years.
And it may not happen again in my lifetime. And
not only am I here to witnesses, I'm on the
lineup card, So you know, moments like that. I could
go on and on mind, but you know, when my
buddy Harold Reynolds led the league in stolen bases. I mean,
(08:36):
there's just so many iconic memories of my time here
in Seattle.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what I remember. I remember
Dennis Secresy. I remember forty seven games in a row
getting on base, the start a career. You think Dennis
Secresy Ever sits at home and just has nightmares about
you ruining that day for him.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
What do you remember about that, man, Rookie of the year.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
You're forty seven games in a row on base, best
rookie start ever in the history of the game, free
run bomb off of Eck in your very first game
as a major leaguer.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Tell me you still have your jersey.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
The bat, you got the ball, something from that game.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Dude.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know, because some of that stuff ended
up in Cooperstown. But you know, I just kind of
chuckled when you said that, because you know, when Eck
became a reliever and he was the most dominant reliever
in the American League with the Oakland As.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Eck got his revenge.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
I don't think he's having nightmares about that first game
because he got the last left.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
You know, he was some.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Kind of closer, some kind of a competitor. And yeah,
you know, they're back in those days, there weren't very
many closers that had command, that could just paint the edges,
and so that's one of the things that set Eck apart.
He still had the stuff, right, but but but he
had the command of a starter, you know. And so yeah,
so he was a rough at bat, but but you know, yeah,
(10:01):
you know, the story is what it is, and uh yeah,
it's a part of my legacy, and so I cherished
that memory.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
I think that's still a record. I don't think anybody's
being that record. By the way, forty seven straight games
to start a career.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
Man.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
So hey, Ad, it's great to hear your voice.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
You you sound exactly the same as you did forty
years ago. Man, So whatever you're doing, it's working, man,
keep it up. Congrats on the top fifty and we'll
see you out there at the park.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Man City appreciated, appreciated, a good lunch taking chair of
you guys. Yeah, that's all great to talk to you.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
You got it.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Alvin Davis with us on the radio show for old
guys like us. He was the first true heron, He
was the first true start.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
We seeattle, We.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
Just talked to Harold Reynolds and Alvin Davis.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
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Speaker 1 (10:47):
No question, man, we are showing you how old we
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Speaker 2 (11:19):
You know, I think we have just made history here
on the air. By the way, they fame.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
What's that only radio show to give you a hair? Reynolds,
Brett Boone, Alvin Davis talk about a deformed raccoon and
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Speaker 2 (11:33):
I mean, what more do you want.
Speaker 5 (11:34):
I'm gonna listen.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
We're covering everything here on the radio station. Well, join us.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
I'm the here, uh, the only guy that you really
need to listen to. I actually woke up this morning
dying to hear this guy's take on what happened yesterday
in the Mariners game. Our friend Chuck Pale joining us
right now on a Friday afternoon. Chuck, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
How are you?
Speaker 3 (11:56):
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would you like to make a skin lamp?
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Can you bring over the big fat lady while you're
at it?
Speaker 3 (12:10):
Is she a great, big fat person?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (12:12):
Who's listen to make a skin lamp out of her?
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I'm gonna tell you right now, if you stick your
wiener between your legs, we got a problem.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
By the way, do not do that. What is this happened?
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Silence of the lambs?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Way too late?
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Good lord, dude, what are we doing here?
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
All right, First of all, we've had Harold Reynolds on
the air. We've had Brett Boone on the air. We've
got Alvin Davis on the air. There's a celebratory mood
in the air about tonight and tomorrow for the top fifty.
But there's also a little bit of a pall right
in the air because of the way this baseball team
is playing. And we thought Tuesday was rock bottom, and
(12:52):
then yesterday said, hello, it can be worse. What is
your take, my friend, on what we've seen the last
three game was against the Detroit Tigers.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
I mean, it just continues to be highly disappointing. And
I heard you guys show yesterday, and I heard Dick's comment,
and I mean, I get it that you right now,
you've proven that you are this team and the outlier
is a good game. And it's frustrating because I mean,
I just heard Jerry Depoto in an interview on MLB
(13:24):
Network and he's saying what I believe, And I don't
think they should come as a surprise to anyone that's
listened to my show or has listened to Jerry during
the course of the year. They believe they've got the talent,
they believe that they should win this division and that
a streak is coming. But it is getting harder and
harder and harder to believe that sentiment. I get it
(13:45):
from everyone, but the only thing that I could say
is baseball is weird. And even though for four months
this has been a bad baseball team to this point
in the season, somehow it really only takes because of
the cooperation you've got from other teams in the American League,
Western throughout the American League. You go on a good run,
(14:08):
it doesn't even have to be like a ten game
winning streak. Win eight out of ten and you're in
first place in this division, and then you can settle
it down the stretch. So we're just waiting on that.
I mean, every team in Major League Baseball has a
stretch where they overplay, they play beyond their abilities and
have a good ten day fourteen game streak. Colorado Rockies
(14:29):
do it. This team has not come up with that
streak this entire season. Highly frustrating. I'm tired of it.
You're tired of it. Dick's tired of it. The entire
listening audience is tired of it. But the bottom line
is that there's still forty six games to play, and
maybe there is a stretch. They have the talent to
do it. They got a deeper lineup, they've got good
(14:50):
pitching most nights, they've got the ability to still pull
this thing off, but it is really frustrating waiting on it.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
Well, you were the first person on the station and
I still think the only person on the station that said, Okay,
enough's enough time for Dan Wilson to go.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
I don't know if you heard Jerry Brewer on with
us yesterday.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
His quote was, I think they'd be five to eight
games better with a different coaching staff. He says, don't
even bring me the best manager in baseball, Bring me
the eighth best manager in baseball, and they'd be in
first place.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Give me the eighty eighth? I mean, seriously, I mean no,
I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I
guarantee you there there are a lot of guys that
don't have managerial jobs right now that would have done
a better job with this team. And I'm not I mean,
I'm not laying at all at Dan Wilson's feet, but
the manager does have to be held responsible for four
(15:44):
months of underperforming. So I would have done this coming
out of the All Star break, and frankly, guys, Scott
Servis was fired on August twenty second, and Dan Wilson
stepped in for him and just a new voice. Yeah,
created such momentum that you ended up making a run
toward the playoffs that year and missed one game short.
(16:07):
So we're not to August twenty second, yet it's still
to me I would not I would still make the
move after this weekend and make a managerial change, maybe
a different voice. You catch fire with that, and I
would hate to get to the end of this year
and miss the playoffs by one game because you waited
(16:29):
too long to make that decision.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Right, Well, okay, so let's live in that world for
a second, all right, Because the Red Sox fired Alex
Cora and they promoted Chad Tracy, right, Chad Tracy was
on the staff and they made him the interim manager.
And now they're thirty one and five, about to be
maybe thirty two and five because they're kicking the White
Sox ass right now.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
But he was on staff.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
I don't know if I really need to see Manny
Acta manage this baseball team, do you.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
I don't know, would you be in favor of that.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Or would you go outside the organization go get a
you know, a Brent Snicker, Bruce Bochie, somebody of that ilk.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
What would you do if you did remove Dan on Monday?
Speaker 3 (17:13):
Well, I mean credit to the Red Sox. I mean,
Breslo may have been onto something with Cora, but that's
a guy with winning experience. We'd have to get over
the whole Astros thing. But the Cora name has value
in this town. I think he's available, and I think
a lot of people would love to manage this roster,
would love to have this pitching staff and the talent
(17:35):
on this roster and see what they can do with it.
I mean that's probably where I would go, and I
think you could talk him into that. But I would
say beyond this year, I think it's almost time to
make a trade, like a Lou Panela Randy Wynn kind
of thing. Kevin Cash, we're going to be facing the
next three days. That is as good a young manager.
(17:59):
He's analytics, he's a little bit old school, he's clever,
he's kind, he's funny. The players love him. I think
maybe this offseason i'd trade a player, I mean, not
one of our best, but I'd trade a player for
Kevin Cash in the offseason in order to get the
right guy or Steven Vote, who I just heard off
(18:20):
the Air. I won't tell you from who would love
to come back to Seattle because he realizes how much
talent that there is on this roster and never really
wanted to leave in the first place. I would just
target one of the two best young managers in the
sport right now, and I'd go get him in the offseason.
In the interim, you know, I imagine they're staying with Dan,
(18:41):
but you guys know my feelings on that. I still
think there's time to save this season, and I'm not
sure he's the guy that will save it.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Chuck.
Speaker 6 (18:49):
A lot has been made of the schedule upcoming for
the Mariners. I don't know how much I make of
it because I just feel like this baseball team can
play totally crappy against crap teams and could potentially blow
away good teams. So how much do you make of
the schedule over the next three weeks.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I mean, if I'd rather it be light, and I'd
rather us have a lot of games against an A's
team that's kind of folded here down the stretch. But
I agree with you one thousand percent. This team is
so weird and it's not just this year. This is
the way this team's operated through throughout the entire Jerry
Depoto era. There have been two times, and you know,
you guys know how positive I've been about the way
(19:29):
that this roster has been structured over the years, and
there have been two times where I have given up
actively on the team, and the moment I did, they
took off. You know, they put together some like eleven
game winning streak or or fifteen out of seventeen or
whatever the case may be, and either rallied to get
(19:50):
to the playoffs or just fell short. I mean, we've
had a couple of episodes like that, so to me,
you know, you never know what kind of lightning you're
going to catch in the bottle. But I don't really
look at the opponent because they play as they seem
to play better against better competition, and I think that's
been their trademark here for the last few years. So
(20:12):
I'd rather have a lighter schedule, But I don't think
it has anything to do with the opponent. If this
team plays the way they're capable of, no matter the
opponent down the stretch, they should win a weak American
League West period.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, they're pretty much the same against plus five hundred
versus under five hundred teams this year. I guess to
me today one of the bigger stories is and I'm
not surprised in the moment by it. I'm not even
saying it's the wrong move, but Chuck, it is a
little bit stunning when you think of the season in total,
(20:48):
that on August the seventh, cal Rawley's hitting eighth in
the Mariners lineup and Julio is hitting fifth.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I mean, when you first saw that, what was your reaction.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
I think it's the right thing to do. I mean,
I talk to you guys after the trading deadline, and
I liked the moves. I don't think anybody loved the moves,
but I like the moves that.
Speaker 7 (21:10):
I mean.
Speaker 3 (21:11):
The Castillo move was smart for the future, had no
impact on this team. Taylor Ward seemed like he did
satisfy your two weaknesses. And on base guy a guy
that can hit lefties presently, not six months ago, but
right now he's hitting lefties. Those seemed like smart, you know, moves,
not overly aggressive moves. But I told you the day
(21:32):
after when I came on with you, or the day
of the trading deadline, that this is really going to
come down to whether or not you can get Raleigh,
Julio or Naylor two of the three. Don't need all
of them. Two of the three have to start performing,
not like superstars, but not like duds, not like guys
that shouldn't even be in the lineup, which is where,
(21:55):
unfortunately we've got to discuss cal Rolly. He's having about
his bad at season as anyone in the entire sport.
So those two guys just catch fire a little bit,
two of the.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
Three of them.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
That's it. I'm not getting greedy. You do that, they
pick up the slack and you will. You will win
the division. You'll make up those three games against the Astros,
and you will win the American League West. The Astros
have a desperate need for starting pitching. They didn't even
address it at the trading deadline. They are obviously vulnerable,
and all it takes is for the Mariners to play
(22:31):
close to their capabilities. And that starts with cal Rawley,
and then secondarily it's Julio Rodriguez.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
No doubt, no doubt, Chuck, you're the man, great stuff,
and we will hear you on Monday morning at six am.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
You're the bests.
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Lineups for tonight's game one of three.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Against the Rays are out a little bit different.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Taylor Ward leading off, playing right, Koyong at second, Randy
or Rose Arena and left Dom Canzo to dh and
now things get weird. Julio hitting fifth, playing center, Josh
Naylor hitting six, playing first base, Brandon Donovan hitting seventh,
playing third base, Cal Rowley hitting eighth, playing catcher, and
Colt Emerson at shortstop hitting ninth with Logan Gilbert on
(24:09):
the mound against Drew Rasmussen from Spokane, Washington. Born in Palla,
but I went to high school and Spokane went to
Oregon State. Dan Wilson marin her manager before game one
of three tonight against the Rays.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
Game one here with with Tampa.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
You know obviously, you know we just saw these guys
right before the break and and uh, you know, a
chance to to kind of get back on the right foot.
And uh, you know with Detroit yesterday, tough loss for sure,
but uh, you know, a chance to come out today.
It starts this series on the right foot. Logan on
the hill, you know, continues to throw the ball well
for us and uh looking for a good outing from
(24:47):
him and grasp musing on their side, you know, throws
the ball well and and uh, you know, offensively, he
attacks his own. He doesn't walk a lot of guys,
and so you know, be aggressive and and and ready.
Speaker 7 (24:58):
To hit against Rasmussen.
Speaker 9 (24:59):
Tonight, Dan Acas through your perspective of yesterday's game and
obviously how you were feeling.
Speaker 10 (25:03):
Does not being able to you know, be there contributing.
Speaker 11 (25:05):
Any kind of way.
Speaker 9 (25:06):
Yeah, you know, the suspensions are tough, and and uh,
you know, you don't you don't like being in in
that kind of a situation. And uh, you know, I
think we found ourselves on the wrong end of it
early and then just you know, couldn't find our way back.
I thought Framburgh, you know, threw the ball well for him,
He attacked his own and didn't didn't give us much
(25:27):
chance to get much.
Speaker 7 (25:28):
Traffic going, and and uh, you know, it was just
one of those days and and we move on from that,
and then we.
Speaker 9 (25:33):
Start the new series today, and you know, I think this.
Speaker 7 (25:37):
Is a good test for us as a good team.
Speaker 9 (25:39):
And we saw him right before the break, and you know,
we didn't win the series, but a chance here at
home now to to win the series.
Speaker 11 (25:47):
And then you haven't idea of games timeline yet how
easy healing everything that I have not.
Speaker 9 (25:54):
Heard a timeline yet on on his appeal and and uh,
you know how it's all worked out.
Speaker 7 (25:59):
But you know, I think we'll we'll know more here
in the next few days.
Speaker 11 (26:02):
And a mentioned Rascals send the tack of this out
of the past few games, and that's not a lot
of the close, hard hit malls just hasn't has.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
A landed safe.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
If you think that that kind of tread maybe helping
you guys against the Manchuer who's attacking this sound like
he is.
Speaker 9 (26:16):
Yeah, I mean I think it's you know, it is
all about barrels. It's about finding the barrel and hit
it hard and hit the ball on the line and uh,
you know, getting the ball up in the air. We
saw Julio get the big clear on him the other day,
and so yeah, finding the barrels is what we want
to do.
Speaker 10 (26:29):
And you know, a guy like Raspus and he's not
just gonna throw it down the hill. He's gonna work
the edge and he's gonna he's gonna make it difficult.
But anytime we find barrel, that's that's a that's a
good thing. And hopefully there's more of that.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
Tonight then just not physically, but just none only as well.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
What's your level of concern for.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
These guys right now at this point of the season,
after this last year. I think it's good, you know,
I think you know, we know that.
Speaker 9 (26:55):
We have our destinies in front of us, and and yeah,
it's it's it's been an up and down year and
and uh you know we we uh we've.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Got you know, some time here to get things turned around.
And that's what we want to do. We want to
start tonight and in.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
This game, in this series, Uh, you know, getting back
to the Mariner baseball that that you know, we know
we're capable of.
Speaker 7 (27:14):
And you know, I'm excited about where.
Speaker 9 (27:17):
Our guys are at and uh, you know the mental
spot that they're in and and uh, you know, we
just got to keep you know, staying in that positive
mindset and making adjustments out on the field to make
it happen course and get the w We need to
find a way.
Speaker 7 (27:30):
It's the time of year where you need to find
a way. And you know that's why I know what
our guys are going to do. Last year, when each
grow has life retired, that.
Speaker 11 (27:38):
Kind of came a vout and called for the team
as it entirely stretched you. You want to make this week,
you know, just legends of the organization out of that
could any prize and entertainment.
Speaker 7 (27:47):
Stuff that no doubt.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
I mean, I think that's always the case when you
when you have you know, you see.
Speaker 12 (27:53):
Some of the history of some of the legacy, some
of the tradition that's been a part of this organization,
and uh yeah, of course it gives you a lift then,
you know, it's it's it is great on personal level
that to see everybody back and be a part of
this weekend. But I do think on on a team level,
you know, you hear the stories and you understand, uh,
you know what it takes and and uh, you know,
(28:14):
I think our guys have a good awareness of that.
Speaker 9 (28:18):
You know, it's it can be a huge positive lifform
and and uh you know, I think.
Speaker 13 (28:22):
Like you mentioned last year, with each row it did
become a rallying cry, and uh even hopefully this year
we continue to find that same energy and focus coming
out of this series.
Speaker 7 (28:33):
Here again.
Speaker 11 (28:35):
A non serious baseball question category No not asked me
about Jimpy or whatever that thing is.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
What do you think it's gonna who do you who's
gonna win the derby? Who are you gonna put money
out of you? Because that's too easy. If somebody else
other than who's gonna win. That's way too long. That's
just cheating. I say that, well, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 9 (28:57):
I would put my money on on Ryan Rowls, but
I know he's le handed, so that's probably the easiest
way to leave.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
The ball player.
Speaker 7 (29:03):
And they say you don't have a sense again.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
All right, there you go, Dan Wilson officially picking Ryan
Rowland Smith to win the humbrunnerby glad that we have
that intel. By the way, look, I mean he is
as far as his approach to this whole thing, he
is very stubborn. He's not changing at all for anybody.
He's not going outside the box. He's not going to
be somebody.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
We've asked for a little more fire, obviously, and that
is not happening. And I think as long as this
thing goes, if they do find a way Dick to
overcome this and get to the playoffs, his calm.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Demeanor will be one of the reasons why.
Speaker 1 (29:38):
But if it doesn't happen, yes, and they missed the
playoffs's calm demeanor might be one of the reasons why.
Speaker 6 (29:44):
No, There's there's no question about it, and there's no
way he's going to get fired Between now and the
end of the season, I think we can just forget them.
Forget you don't know, John Stanton, if you think he's
doing that's a good chance.
Speaker 5 (29:54):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Do you think the Mariners are more like Cleveland Texas
and the Whites more like the Rockies.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think that they are more like Cleveland, Texas in
the West.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
I'm glad you said that, Okay, because against Cleveland Texas
and Chicago this past week and a half, they played
seven games and they scored fourteen runs.
Speaker 5 (30:16):
In those seven games, two runs a game.
Speaker 6 (30:18):
Then they played Colorado and scored twenty six in three
games against Colorado. Now they're back to seeing pitching that
looks more like Cleveland, Texas and Chicago, and this offense.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
For the Rays has really struggled.
Speaker 6 (30:29):
I think we see it one to one game in
the sixth tonight between Logan Gilbert and Drew Rasmus.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Well, look, man, it's all it's It usually is a
battle of bullpens when it comes to games like this.
And I don't know, man, I'm the idiot Mariner fan
who thinks like the ride the roller coaster from one
day to the next.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
We're done we're back in it, we're out.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
We have a chance, right, I mean, you can't make
up your mind, but these guys will show us what
they are. And so far it's been a massive disappointment.
Just the fact that we're even struggling to even be
relevant is a massive disappointment.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
If I told.
Speaker 1 (31:03):
You back in March that in the American League West
on the seventh of August, the leading team would be
two games over five hundred, you would have said, are
you kidding me?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
That's the Mariners number one and number two? Are you
kidding me?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Or if I even told you back in March the
Astros are fifteen hundred and fifty seven, the Rangers are
a game under you would have thought the Ams would
be ten games up right now with those records.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
So it's pretty huge Downard at this point.
Speaker 6 (31:30):
And even if you said the in March that the
Mariners are one and a half game out of a
playoff spot in three games out of the West, you
wouldn't have taken it, but you wouldn't have been like, oh,
this is a disaster of the season. You probably would
have thought the Mariners were four or five games over
five hundred and playing okay, Baseball to be that close
to the playoffs. But the fact is that the water
level has gone down so low in the American League
(31:51):
where almost every team is just below five hundred. I mean,
you've got five six teams between one under and four
under five hundred, just in the American League.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Yeah, all right, we're gonna break. Brett Boone's gonna join
us around six twenty tonight. We continue from Jimmy's on
first right here on ninety three three KJRFM
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