September 13, 2024 • 50 mins
In the third hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain chat with Hugh Millen about the UW and Hawks games, Chris Price about the Patriots, then Ryan Leaf about the Apple Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's Zuffdi and Dick.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Let's get to it, Ryan Leef, I'll join us top
of the hour. But joining us right now in the
radio program, my favorite Husky quarterback of all time here, Milan.
How are you I like a rud Not true. I
was twelve years old when you beat Oklahoma and the
Orange Bowl.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And then you know, a day for Washington, and little
did you know that fifteen years later I'd be installing
your stereo.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You beat me to it, you son of a bitch.
I had to right there.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's exactly that defense is a good offense. Well, let's
get to it, man. I'm gonna pull an old graze
on you here for a sec. Yeah, you're ready?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
When I say apple cup, what do you think? Oh?
She's remember that?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I do when I say Apple Cup, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think obliterated. I think it's just kind of
been vaporized. Whatever I think of the Apple Cup, basically
all the all the substantive part of it no longer exists.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That will be my first thought.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Wow, geeze, way to go party pooper, Yeah a little
bit right.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, Well, I mean I.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Think, like you kind of it's interesting you're saying that
because you kind of sound like a Cougar fan when
you're saying that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I don't know a lot of Husky fans that have
gone that far. So why have you gone that far
as to say it's been vaporized?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, I just.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Think West Coast football, just the dissolution of the Pac twelve.
It's it's saddening to me. And and uh, you know,
when I think of the Apple Cup, I think of
it's us in the same conference and having a significant
bowl game on the line, and the Cougars as a
general rule out performing their resources and being scrappy. And
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they may be all of that, but just you know,
it's just such a divergent path.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I don't know, I think it's kind of self evident
that it's you know, the most of the material part
of it is is gone.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
At least to me.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I understand they're going to keep playing, but you know,
they may not after a few years.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It just seems like most of the good things I
liked about the Applica Cup.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No longer exists. I'm not saying all yeah, I'm just
saying most.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And honestly, guys, now that I'm thinking about this, is
this a five year deal, so it's looming, and then
pullman Seattle, Pullman Seattle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
For Wazoo to agree to keep this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thing going after this current five year contract, you they
may have to win one, right, I mean, if they
just keep getting destroyed every single year, like U dub
and Gonzaga and the Huskies just said the hell with this,
they might just say the hell with it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
If they don't get one of these wins.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, I don't know any Husky that's going to go
in and say, well, let's let this be the year
they beat us. But I understand. You know, it was
like back when Rich Brooks was the coach for Oregon.
You know, DJ beat him fifteen out of eighteen, and
that just seemed to be about right. You know, you
don't like the three that we lost, but it kept stability.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But if you're.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
A fan of the Apple Cup and that stability needs
to be maintained with a Cougar win every once in
a while, then maybe in some weird abstract way.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You'd be rooting for that.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
What's the emotional advantage this team's got coming in? The
Kooks have coming out. I don't know if they're going
to have a lot of rockets support from the crowd,
but they certainly will be you would think more emotional
than Washington will be coming into this game.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, I think that they've done a good job of
keeping everybody together and I'm surprised how few hit the
transfer portal. So I think there's probably something to their
collective makeup. And I think Jake Dickard is going to
tap into all of their competitiveness, right, I mean the
greatest competitors, you know, Michael Jordan the documentary. I mean,
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he'll find anything, He'll make stuff up in his mind,
he'll lie, he'll you know, everybody's looking for some kind
of edge, and certainly the events of the last few
years have provided that. With respect to the Cougars and
and there there. I don't want to say their status,
but but there, you know their future relative to Washington,
I think there's plenty there. Well, what do you I
just imagine being a captain of the Cougars. I think
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there'd be plenty to try and get my teammates, you know,
amped up as high as we could be.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, absolutely, what do you make of this gun slinger
Johnny Mattier starting quarterback for the Cougars.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
At a little ELM Texas.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Game number one throws for three fifty game number two
runs for a buck ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well, I watched all the tape there against Texas Tech.
And you know, I coached youth football for twenty four
seasons and on the East Side, if you go from
a kid all the way up through there's eight level
starting with seven eight nine year olds. That's the rookies,
five levels of youth and three levels of high school,
culminating obviously in varsity. And I coached all levels. And
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when I put on the tape, first thing, I just
look at at the Cougars, It's it's like a youth
football offense. It's just and we've seen this before, it's
like getting in the in the single wing. You got
your best athlete. He's he's the quarterback. Let's just block
for him. Let him run left, run right, right up
the middle of what have you. And so there's that
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with respect to the the offense, respect as respect to
the to him the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If I was just talking to my.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Boys, I don't mean my sons, but my my frat boys,
I'd say he's nasty, you know, just but since I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
On the radio, bad and nasty. What do you mean
by that? I mean both.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
When I watch him throw his passing motion, it's like
he's trying to skip rocks. He has this horizontal fall
through that just looks nasty to my I wrote down
in my notes painful, inaccurate. I think he's at fifty
six percent. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm just saying in
terms of how he misses his first interception, guy's wide open.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How his ball placement, he just looks like.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A guy who's who was really supposed to be the
fullback in the middle linebacker on the youth football team.
But somehow he could actually throw it a little better
than everybody else. So let's just make him the quarterback, right,
and and so nasty in that regard like I don't.
It's not real true quarterbacking to my eye, but also
nasty in terms of his athleticism. This guy, you know,
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he's a stocky dude. He's listed at six to one
and it's probably closer to six foot but two seventeen.
He's thick. Uh, he's got great lateral quickness. You know,
he's kind of like, you know, the poor man's Jake Locker,
and he probably has better lateral quickness.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, I think it's irony. It's an interesting weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You know, Saturday the Huskies are playing a white dude
at quarterback who moves like a brother. And Sunday the
Seahawks are playing a brother who moves like a white dude.
And so you know that's just kind of part of
the prep when you when you look at at mateir
I mean, look this guy. And and here's the thing
they will run for football people. You've got you got
the uh they run power encounter a lot of gap
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scheme stuff. What does that mean if Matiar's gonna go
over left tackle, the left tackle and left guard to
go slam down towards the line of scrimmage and they're
gonna pull both the right side guard and the right tackle.
And in a simple terms, if you're defending that, you
got to say, look, you got to anchor.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That defensive tackle's got to anchor. That's one adjective.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Write that down, dick anchor the the end manalyed scrimmage.
He's got to close in on those pollers. So anchor
and close and then linebacker stuff to scrape anchor closed scrape.
They've got to do that because they're going to see
these power encounters. Again, that's gap scheme in the in
the manner I described, And you know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
What they'll do.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
They'll take the running back and they'll kind of give
a token fake and then he'll lead up as a
lead blocker like he's the full back and matis the tailback,
and they'll do this all the time. And one of them,
I'll just close with this. They they ran the OT
counter to the right. OT who's the backside guard and
the backside tackle. So everything's supposed to go to the right.
The running back, the line's on the right, he's like
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lead blocking all of the all of the blockings to
the right, and Matier just kind of goes, oh, I
think I see something in the left.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He makes a dude miss going to his left. There's
no blockers there.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And then he makes you know, at the first level,
and then he makes another guy miss at the second level,
and then and then it gets eleven yards out of
if I watch it to go the hell they get
eleven yards out of that when he when he went,
you know, one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of where
the ball was supposed to go. But look, so he's
nasty in a complimentary sense. He's nasty in a derogatory
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sense when I watch him throw. He's nasty in a
complimentary sense when I watch how dynamic he is with
the football in his hands.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So how do you go about defending that? You just
crowd the line of scrimmage. You let your cornerbacks be
on an island because you don't have any threat of
a deep passing game once.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So, well, you better be careful about man to man
coverage and who's assigned to the quarterback because you go
man to man and they run out vertical. Now they're
going to create a lot of space. I mean, he
had a twenty three yarder that made whoa he's got
He had a sixty eight yard er I mean, this dude,
he doesn't have lockers speed, but he's he's he's he's
a big time, legitimate open field threat. So so i'd
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be careful about man coverage. Yes, I would like to
play press on the outside, Dick with your corners, but
you can play zone behind that. If you press in
the zone, you take away the quick game and the
hitches and the slants and and kind of create more
of a vertical game. A lot of of the routes
convert to verticals, and so I would play press, but
i'd play a lot of zone because I need a
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lot of eyeballs pursuing, you know, in conjunction.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
After that dude, well, because of his nastiness, you've had eight.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Quarters of Husky football. You've had four quarters of Seahawks football.
Let's start with the Dogs, then go to the Hawks.
Who have you been? Remember a couple of years ago,
you made that call early on Troy fod Tone. You
said that guy over there, he's going to be badass.
And I'm not saying there's a five ton of on
this team, but anybody on the Huskies that's kind of rescue.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So far, after eight quarters, well, I think as a party.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You know, and everybody loves his name, right, But I
would say he's the best lineman if we're going lineman.
But you know, I don't know at what stage they
you know, they say when Columbus, I don't say discovered America,
but traveled to America, there was nobody in the western
hemisphere that was using the wheel, So you think the
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wheel would be pretty ubiquitous concept. But if that's true,
I would like to know that the time where somebody said, hey,
let's try it round and and at that time and
they said, yep, let's stop. That's good, We've got it.
It's solved. Wheels should be round. So I would say,
when I'm looking and you ask me, who's catching my attention,
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there's no need to reinvent anything. Just like when you
see a wheel, you know you can stop that. Jonah Coleman,
he's he's the dude. I love watching this guy. I
love his vision, I love his balance, I love his strength,
I love his cutback ability, I love his open field running.
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So that's the guy who's caught my You know, he's
clearly the best football player on the team in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Do you I was just gonna say, I mean, do
you do you pound him?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Then?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Is that your game plan just to pound? And what
do you think of that matchup with the Cougar defensive
line that you've seen on film.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think you try and have balance. I wouldn't just say, well,
let's go pound him. I think there's gonna be opportunities
to throw the football. And I would say the quarterback
took a big jump in my eyes. I think Will Rogers,
you know, I told you after the game one wasn't impressed,
missed a lot of stuff. But I thought his experience
really showed in the last game, really good playing on time.
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And I think he has limited physical skill set, but
I think that that he knows where he's going with
the ball and importantly he makes his decisions or and
you know, on his deep ball, he's got enough touch.
You know that he can lay the ball out there
and let people go get it. So I wouldn't just
say well, let's let's stomp, crush kill would I would
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go in there trying to be balanced, Dick, and you
know on neutral downs, let's try and probe both in
the running game and the passing game. But Coleman, you know,
obviously has he can he can turn a bad running
play into a good one, and you can take turn
a good one into a great one.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
What about the Hawks after Week one?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, I've mentioned this before, Dick. I think I texted you.
You got Julian Love. He had ten solo tackles. If
you take the most recent two safeties that made the
Hall of Fame, Troy Polamalu and Ed Reid, they had
three hundred and sixty two combined starts in regular season
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and playoffs. And in all of those three sixty two
there was Dick exactly zero games where either of them
ever had ten solos. Plus he had a forced fumble,
plus he had a pick. So I would say, just
hit and the open field tackling. But there's a lot
to like on that tape. Now I know we're getting
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tight Terrell Dotson. I really like him in space, his coverage,
his movement skills.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They're going to be playing hardball.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I watched that Patriot tape and the Patriots offensive line
first thing, first play, first thing that the I cognized
the even reck, I go, well, those are tight splits
the offensive line, very tight splits, and they just kind
of want to play rugby and come downhill, and so
I'm a little bit concerned about the hardball nature of
Dodson and Baker, particularly if they want to borrow what
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Denver had a little bit of success with what's called
an ISO play. They don't have a fullback on their
lineup like the Broncos have number twenty, but they can
put a tight end in and then have him as
a lead blocker. As good as the Sea Arx play
as well as they played that, there was a weakness
there at the point of attack with lead blocking. So
that has me a little bit concerned. Given what the
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Patriots did on the ground last week.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I got to ask you, as a dad of a quarterback,
and as a quarterback yourself, if you were to his dad,
what you to advise him to do right now?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, you know people are going to say, well, that's
not very PC to start with the money, but I
think it's it's it's it should be mentioned, So let's
just get it out of the way. So Tua has
one hundred and sixty seven million dollars guaranteed. Forty three
million has been paid. The remaining one hundred and twenty
four million of his guaranteed money must is that if
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he's medically cleared and he chooses to retire, he will
lose one hundred and twenty four million. Now if he
is not medically cleared. This that's where it's going to
be really pivotal, Like who's doing the evaluating right? And
I understand there'd be a panel or multiple butt but
let's just talk about that. But I look and I say,
how much has he made if he never plays again
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and they medically clear him. But he says, I don't
want to play because he's going to retire. He will
have made in his career seventy three point five million.
That should be enough unless he wants to live like
Mick Jagger. You know, you got ten million and handed
ten million to a broker. Reasonably, you're going to get
at least fifty grand a month. Get you got twenty
million in the bank and give it to a broker
or whatever. It should be one hundred grand a month.
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So he should be more than fine for the rest
of his life. Having said all that, what I would
advise him, he's had he has had injured brain tissue,
and what I would advise him, I'd say, you get
the very best dudes on the planet. Multiple plural, and
you get their advice about what the risks are and
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what you're dealing with here, because he's got two young
kids and he doesn't need to play and everybody would understand.
So I'm assuming that guy loves football and he won.
You know, that's the funnest thing in the world for him.
Fun Police says, you can't say that, So okay, the
most fun thing he can do is why can't we
say funnest? Right, we can say tannis, we can say thinnest,
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we can't say funnest. Anyways, the most fun thing that
that he does in his life has probably played professional football,
and so I'm assuming he wants to, but he doesn't
need to, and I would want to get the very
best in the world to weigh in on it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, well, he might want to keep making money to
live like Mick Jagger because he's got some Puerto Rican
girls that are.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Dying to meet him.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, all nice pool, We gotta go, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Man, have fun. We're talking a week rock and roll
Hammerda you're milling with us.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Ryan Leef coming up at a six pm hour talking
to Apple Cup right here on ninety three three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now back to the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday
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Speaker 5 (16:50):
kJ r FM.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I'm concerned you about Jacoby Burssett on when you think
about Jacoby Brissett back to pass, looks left, looks right now.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I am more concerned about Jacoby Brissett going into this
game than I was Bonnicks going to the last game.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, I'd agree with that because he knows what he's doing.
He's like an eight year NFL veteran. Yeah, you know,
he was recruited by start by the way you dub
all right. Yeah, Now he's been in the NFL for
I think he's is this his tenth year in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
How many years has he been around? He's been around
long damn time? Dan and we what do we say?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
It was like a four to one touchdown interception ratio
in his career. Like, he's done a pretty good job
being a journeyman sick up that occasionally starts a few game.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, this is his uh, this is tenth year in
the NFL three six ninth sorry, nine years in the
National Football League. But yeah, I mean he's started forty.
This is his fiftieth start in the NFL. So would
I rather see Drake May who could be a complete
third Sandwich than Jacoby Brissett, of course? But Apple Cup
On Saturday, Carson Bruner, Denzel Boston. So they're redoing the
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team room over at U dub Dick, the meeting room.
They're getting new chairs putting there. So we've been meeting
with the Huskies this week and I think it's the
defensive meeting room. And in the defensive meeting room they
have the Apple Cup trophy case. It's actually part of
the wall. It's not like a separate trophy case. It's
like in the wall, okay, right, like you think of
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like an entertainment system or whatever. And so they're literally
doing the press conference next to the trophy and I'm
talking to Denzel Boston, Carson Bruner asking those guys on
Star Warck Carson, how important is it for you to
keep that trophy in that wall over there?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Very important?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Very important. I mean it's been taken away from me
once since I've been here. It was something that when
I came in, I mean I already said it, but
it's something that I look at every single day we
have team meeting, and I mean, I won't forget the
moment when it got taken away from us and kind
of sitting here for a whole entire year looking at
the empty case. It was not fun for me. It
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didn't sit well for me. And then when obviously we
were able to get it back and keep it last
year as well. So kind of going to this game,
I mean, it's it's a big game, and I mean,
you can you could say it's another game, and it
really is. By the end of the day. I mean,
there's a trophy with it. People call it a rivalry,
it's the Apple Cup all that, but that trophy means
a lot to me, the history between these two teams
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and all that, so be I'm gonna keep it there.
It's very important to me.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Denzel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
How about you.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Well for me, I say, you know, I've never not
seen the trophy in the case, so you know, it's
definitely a personal thing, Like I don't want to see
it empty. I don't think Carson wants to see it
empty on his last year, especially, so you know, that
trophy is real special to us. And you know, like
he was saying, with the history and everything behind it.
You know, our plan is definitely to keep it here.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Do either guys either one of you guys have friends
over at Washington State that you're gonna be playing against.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Oh yeah, they talk to me all the time, and
I tell them while I'm here, we don't lose no coups.
It's a bull statement, but I put it there.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Carson, you mentioned that loss.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Does that still kind of staying today that what DeLaura
did on that field still kind of you carry that
with you just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean, obviously they made their statement, they beat
his far and score that year. I congratulate them on
the win. They played a good game, and I mean,
obviously it was a rough season for us and it
was a rough ending, but something where it almost kind
of drives me to continue to get better. And every
time we've played them, just kind of remember that moment.
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It brings that extra aggression, that extra passion to the
game when you think about it. And I know DeLaura,
I mean he did what he did. I know he
did apologize even after, and I mean he's a great
guy as well, class that guy, so obviously I know
it wasn't man out of any harm or nothing like that.
But I mean there's just a little something else to
this game and to this, to this game coming up
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between these two teams.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So Denzel Boston dry because his first year was twenty
twenty two, which was Divors first year, and they beat
him fifty one to thirty three. Twenty twenty one was
the year they lost to Jayden DeLaura in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But yeah, I mean you were.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Talking about all the guys that are not from here,
that are brand new to the roster, like you know,
and maybe it's just his demeanor, you know, but we're
talking about Rogers on Monday about the Apple was like, yeah,
I've been a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Part of egg Bowl whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I don't know if he really shows up like spitting
blood and drooling for the game, but these guys could
get him to feel that way by Saturday if they
could have.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
How do you just tell somebody you're supposed to be
fired up for a rivalry game if you've never experienced yourself.
And I just think I just counted twenty four guys
in the two deep that have never played in this game, right,
and then you can add another seven or eight that
have never did have been on the roster for this game,
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but have never played in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You're talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Over thirty guys that have never played in an Apple
Cup that are going to play TOMORROWSOS Washington.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
This is why I'm nervous about the game. And you
asked me in the first hour of the show, you
asked me, if the talent has so much better, why
should I be nervous about tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Because of that reason.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's the only one, exactly, and that's a big ass reasons.
Legs are the only reason that we should be nervous
about this game.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Let me explain to you, excuse me, what you do
about Matis legs. You know what you do about Matis legs.
You knocked the piss out of him, is what you do.
If he's gonna run the ball fifteen twenty times, then
you take a crack at him and you make it hurt.
And this is football, all right. I don't care if
people have a problem with that. What do you think
they're wearing helmets for? And Pats, he's gonna run like
a crazed animal out there tomorrow in the game, then
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make it hurt. And he look, I mean he's not
Lamar Jackson. He's six foot one two twenty. I mean,
he should be able to take a beating if he's
gonna keep taking it, taking off and running. But at
some point in time, you want to make it hurt.
And you you mentioned how do you get a guy
like Will Rogers fired up for this? Well, there's a
linebacker for Wazoo that shut off his mouth this week
saying that if they get pressure on Will Rogers is
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gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I just show that to him. Yeah, I heard that cut.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, I get what Brendan Carroll said that quarterbacks
under pressure are are worst blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But I mean I would take that as a shot.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
If I'm Will Rogers, I would be like you said,
like Michael Jordan, just you know, I would. I would
take it as an insult. I'd make up whatever gonna
make up. That's a shot at our quarterback, I understand.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I mean, on the scale of one to ten, ten
being the most egregious thing, it was like a one
point seven.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
No, I don't agree with that, really, Yeah, because I
think the players will make it way bigger, they'll make
it way better.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Right, But what was said one point If they make it,
if they make it into a seven.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Then that's great.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's what they'll do is say, hey, did you see
what this guy said about you? This guy says you
suck under pressure. This guy says you're gonna piss your
pants under pressure. This guy says you can't handle the blitz.
Oh yeah, okay, man, watch what happens now. I mean,
I just that's what that's what they do. That's what
you're supposed to do, and Washington State should do the
exact same thing. You know what, I'm actually curious about
because that in like English soccer games the Premier League,
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the visiting fans can't mingle with the opposing fans, right.
They put them in a separate spot and they bring
him in a different times. There's a reason why they
do that. I wonder how much of that we're gonna
see tomorrow in this game. How how how angry are
fans gonna be in the stands. Don't there's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A little vintery all the stands tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
No, no, no, it's gonna be not I mean to
try to answer to that, to try to compare it
to a Washington Oregon game in Austin, it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Be like, no, it's gonna be nothing compared to that
that I would agree with.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But I I just wonder for the Apple Cup, can
we have a little amiosity in the stands tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I just I'm thinking it was at seven o'clock all
of us are taking Coug's.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I'm bringing up my best friend, the cook fans.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So being in Seattle, there are going to be so
many parties that are gonna be ten Huskies and ten Cougars.
There's just not gonna be I mean, I'm not gonna
say there's never gonna be a fight between a Husky
and the cougar in the stand.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Okay, that could happen, but.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I just I just don't think there's gonna be buzz
at all.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well how about this, how about if we see a
a female Cougar fan and a male Husky fan going
at and his dick and his wife body slammings.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You will not sleep in this bed tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
You are sitting in the garage and you know it,
all right, we're gonna break Chris Price by the way
from the Boston Globe on the Patriots. Did you hear
who they're bringing by the way to honor at the
game on Sunday? Wait, until you hear this from Yes
next on KJRFS.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Now back to the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday
with Satian Dick on your Home for the NFL Sports
Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Alright, we had Arizona plus the seven against Kansas State
in Factor fiction right yes on fourteen seven down fourteen
to seven, early second quarter. Kansas State just took the
lead fourteen to seven early second from Manhattan, so keep
an eye on that bad boy.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But joining us right now on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I was looking for somebody who knows the Patriots organization
inside and out. Only one guy can claim to be
that person in Boston. The rest of them are all pretenders.
Chris Price from the Boston Globe, joining us right now
on the radio show from New England.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You are way too kind, my friend. Thank you so
much for those nice words. I'm doing great. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I was gonna say we couldn't find anyone, so instead
we have you. But that's kind of like an old
trick that kind of gets tired after a while.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I just kind of keeping my.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
B from ESPN. Micree from ESPN wasn't available, so he
went to the next two name on the list, Chris Funny.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I heard that Malcolm Butler is going to be in
the pregame on Sunday. That's got That's not coincidental, is
it because they're playing the Hawks on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
You Oh, it's good, It's completely coincidental. I'm sure that
it has absolutely nothing to do with the end of
Super Bowl forty nine. I just it's just, you know,
he's in the area. He figured he'd stop buying, you know,
be a part of the pregame festadies. This is masterful
trolling on the part of the Patriots. Well, it really is.
All we need. Look, all we need is Brian Flores
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to be at the bottom of the stairs going Malcolm
go is r up the stairs, you know, to ring
the bell.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Enough.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, at least this team's a far cry from that one,
that's for dang sure. So let's talk about the team
that they're facing on Sunday. First of all, the quarterback position. Chris,
was it a good move to start Jacoby Brissett over
the rookie because a couple of teams decided not to
do that in Chicago and Denver?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And yes, look, yeah, I mean you look at it
in a vacuum over the course of the spring in
the summer, and Drake may outplay Jacoby Presett. It really
easily out played Jakoby present. There really wasn't much of
a comparison when you just look at the ability to
get in a huddle quickly, the ability to live the ball.
He checked all of those rookie boxes. Now that being said,
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I don't think right now there is the appropriate amount
of infrastructure in place to be able to support a
young quarterback, a rookie quarterback, in the way that he
should be supported. And so you have a guy in
Jacoby Brissett who is the perfect man for this moment
on a lot of levels. Look, he played for alexand
Pelt in Cleveland. He knows the Vane offense better than
anyone else in that building. He is smart, he's capable,
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he is he has a great pocket presence about him. Look,
he's not a pro bowler. But at the same time,
this is a guy who you know what exits, you
know exactly what you're going to get with him. He
is not going to be the kind of guy who's
going to make that decisions. He's not gonna, you know,
for picks, He's not gonna throw takeaways. He is going
to be able to give you a baseline level of
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competent quarterback play, something we haven't seen here in New
England for the last couple of years. And I always
go back to this with Yakobe. This is the bottom line.
With him the quarterback now in New England, with him
under center, the quarterback will not lose you games like
we've seen over the last couple of years. He may
might not necessarily win you games all the time, but
he will not lose you games with his defense. That's
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exactly what they need.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Well, Chris Price Boston Glove with US Hawks Patriots on
Sunday would be the AMRA queen for the game. By
the way, where where's the playmakers on this football team?
On both offense and defense?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Yeah? I mean right now, they're all on defense. Quite frankly,
you know, there's a couple of guys on the offensive
side of the ball, namely Ramondre Stevenson who rushed for
one hundred and twenty five yards last week. Look, you know,
he's not going to break the century mark every single week.
But I think he's underrated back and I think he's
a very important part of what they want to get
done offensively. On the defensive side of the ball, it's
really Keon White defensive end, young defensive end who really
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his ability to come on over the course this summer
made it possible for them to part ways with Matthew Judon.
He's not Matthew Judon, but he certainly helps recreate Judon
statistics in the aggregate. So I'll toss Keon White in there,
and then you have a really good secondary. You know,
you have guys like Jabrill Peppers and Kyle Dugger and
Christian gon Zalez, one of the best young corners in
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the league who I think is going to be spending
it off a lot of time, you know, chasing around
DK Metcalf. He was under mar chase duty last week
and did a really good job. So they're not you know,
your grandfather's Patriots. But at the same time, there are
enough playmakers on both sides of the ball to make
this thing interesting.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Do Patriots fans think Drodd Mayo was the right hire
or would they have preferred a nationwide search as most
teams do.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think that the only other guy who was part
of the conversation if I'm a Patriots, say, and if
you know you have to make that move away from
Bill is probably Mike Rabel. That was the name that
a lot of other people had up here as the
guy who, look, he could slide right in. He's kind
of sort of an extension of the Belichick thought process,
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are tough, physical defense. You know, he's taken. He took
the Titans to the playoffs, so he's got that resume.
He's the only other guy who I think was even
remotely part of the conversation. But look, this is a
situation where the Crafts kind of a couple of years
ago identified girod Mao as the next guy. I don't
think they necessarily wanted to make this move or thought
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about making this move, you know a couple of years ago,
if they thought about making this move, you know, as
soon as they did. But the guys respond to him.
The guys like him, you know, they play hard for him.
He you know the phrase that always people always used
with him, He comands a room. You guys like him,
they enjoy him, and it seems to be working so far.
Look we're a game in but you know, again, we're
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seeing a really positive response from this roster.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Fresh Price, Boston Glove, Seahawks Patriots Sunday. Is this still
a coveted ticket to go watch a Patriot game?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, not as not as nearly as much as it
used to be. But you know, put it this way,
the conversation will be different if the Red Sox were
in the playoffs. The Red Sox we're looking at the postseason.
You know, it's basically at this point right now, it's
the Celtics and you know, everyone else down everyone's going
to pay attention to the Red Sox. But you know,
the Celtics are the lead story here at least kind
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of you know, as it exists at this point. But yeah,
I mean it's supposed to be nice weather, the Seahawks
still draw, you know, the Seahawks still kind of you know,
move the needle around here for lack of a better term.
So I think it's gonna be you know, it should
be a good crowd on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I really do well, Chris Price. Before you go, just
real quick, I got to get one in on Steve Belichick.
He's calling the defense over you. They got the Apple
look up tomorrow, and I mean the Patriot defense was
pretty good last year, right, we're like in ten to
eleventh in the NFL score. Why did Steve Belichick go
from calling a defense in the NFL to calling a
defense in college football?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Because I think there was more possibility of advancements and
you know, a greater sense of ownership at least from
a coaching perspective. With deciding to move on from the
Patriots as also too. And I mean we talked to
his brother Brian here as well. He's stuck around as
a safety's coach. It was just time to move on,
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you know, in a lot of ways. And I think
that things have kind of started to warm up again
at least a little bit between the coach and the ownership.
And that's going to be a really interesting thing the
way you know, that's all going to play out over
the next few years. But I just think, you know,
at least from his perspective, it was time to move on.
There's a chance for him to, you know, achieve a
real measure of greatness on his own, away from his father,
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away from his father's legacy out there in Washington.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All right, man, great stuff, buddy, appreciate you doing this.
Enjoy the weekend, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Mistress.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Sound good, Take care guys.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
All right, Chris Price, Boston Globe with a quick thought
on the Patriots, Ryan Leaf, We're going to get to
take on the Apple Cup from the Cougar perspective.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All right, boys and girls, welcome back on a busy
Friday night right here on ninety three three KJRFMS offiing
Dick with you un till seven o'clock. And you knew
that we were not going to get to seven o'clock
without going behind enemy lines and talking to one of
the all time great Cougar quarterbacks before the Apple Cup tomorrow.
He's actually in Corvallis getting ready for the Civil War
Oregon and the Beaves on Westwood one tomorrow. But before
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he does that, he's with us. His name is Ryan Leaf,
and he joins us right now on the radio station.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Ryan, You're ready for tomorrow? How are you?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Pal? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm both games are at the
same time, so I'll be calling. I'll be calling the
Civil War when when the Apple Cup's going on? So
I'm not I usually don't look at my phone and
things like that. I probably won't know the outcome until
the end. Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
All right, So I'm going to ask you, after the
Civil War is over, if you did kind of take
a peek at the score. I don't know how you
get away with not doing that. Man, I'd go crazy
not being able to look at the apple cup. But
give us, first of all, man, give us your thoughts
on just the emotions surrounding this game for Cougar Nation
and for you. One of the big storylines, obviously is
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the crowd. Are are Cougar fans into it? Do they
want the game to be played at all? For the
first time?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Really?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Ever, it certainly is an element that we have to
talk about regarding tomorrow's game.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
No, it is.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
I mean, it was a big conversation piece when it
all went down. I will say this thing about Cougar fans,
and I love them to death, and they've you know,
supported me and carried me. But there is a seemingly
when things go bad or are difficult, we develop resent.
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It's pretty easily, and I think there's an understanding that
needs to happen where you know, when we get knocked down,
because it happens a lot, it doesn't matter, Just get
back up and let's go. I don't care where we play,
who we play, what time we play. This might be
the coolest opportunity ever to play an Apple Cup with
the best winning percentages between two teams. You know, I
just I just want to look at it differently than
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most people. And for some reason, it just seems like
Hoop fans just feel so wronged through this whole process,
and it is, but they're just not unwilling to like
compromise and be like, just choose to be happy that
you're getting a chance to go watch a Cougar team
that literally has nothing to lose when they go out
and play, and that makes them a very dangerous, dangerous
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opponent for anybody.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, they got a dangerous quarterback.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
I mean, we saw a swash swashbuckler and Gardner Minshew
a few years ago, and it seems like they got
another one with better legs than Minshew. But tell me
what you think of John Mattier both as a passer
and a runner, because we've seen him scramble a lot.
We haven't seen him throw a lot of passes though,
well they haven't.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Seen throw a lot of passes, but he hasn't had
to because his yards per attempt in that game are
like sixteen yards per attempt in the game against Portland
State where they hung seventy on them, and so you know,
he wasn't great throwing the ball against Texas Tech, but
the game plan called for more of a running game,
and instead he decided to go out and run for
almost two hundred yards. So I think this team and
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Ben Rbuckle, who I've been really impressed with as an
offensive coordinator, he's willing to accept anything and everything, and
he's willing to be diverse, and it's just something that
the air raid style offense that Mike Leach had.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That he wasn't willing to do. Right, they jettison played
McGuire or McGuire as an offensive line coach, and they
brought in somebody new who was going to coach a
different mentality up front where it's not just about going backwards.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
You're taught in the air Raid to go backwards at
all times from the offensive line position, and then when
you're asked on third down and one or fourth down
and one to go forwards and be physical and get that,
they weren't able to do it. And I believe this
team is they may not be as big as the
other teams they face in the trenches, but they're going
to be as physical and that's what we've seen in
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the first two weeks. So I think it makes for
a very very interesting matchup. The Jetfish situation where he
dominated the coops last year and Jake Dickard with that
offense and the way they went about it, you know,
scares me a little bit that he has in some
insight and understanding of how to go about a Jake
Dickard off defense. But I think this is this sets
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up for a really competitive, good football game tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Well, and we'll talk about that Arizona game last year
in a segment. Ryan Leaf is with us. He's calling
the Civil War for Westwood one tomorrow. He's doing it
right during the Apple Cup, man believing that's got to
be torture for him to not get to watch the
Apple Cup tomorrow. But you'll be there doing doing the
doing the game for radio, being a pro. But dude,
let me just ask you about the talent, because in
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ninety seven when you came here and you beat the
Huskies in the Apple comp and they still have the image.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
As you know, burned into my brain.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Have you dancing around like a clown in the end zone,
getting the Cougar fans all fired up. After that game
was over, that memory will never leave me. Cougar fans
on the goalpost trying to tear the damn thing down
on the cover of the paper the next day. But
there was a talent difference that day, and the biggest
one was at quarterback. Washington State had a guy that
finished third in the Heisman Trophy voting and it was you,
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for God's sakes, So the talent the talent. I still
think tomorrow favors Washington But is there enough of an
emotional advantage and motivation for Wazoo that you think will
really be on display tomorrow From a tangible perspective, I do.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
I think that Jake Dickerd just has been a wonderful
head coach for this team to having to go through
all this adversity and everything, and he presents real problems
with his scheme, he really does, and that makes things
a problem for its team that I don't know has
an identity so much yet. Are they a running team?
Are they a throwing team? You know, you've got a
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quarterback that that comes up from the air raid offense
and and is asked to do a little a little
different type of scheme. That that's that's the that's the
bigger question I have is the identity has been set
yet for what what coach Fish wants to do offensively Defensively.
I think they're stout, you know, they're they're they're very talented.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Gonna be a matter of who wants it more tomorrow,
it really is. And you know, of course I'm gonna
I'm gonna fall on the side of Washington State because
I just I just feel like they'll be hungrier.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
They'll just they'll just be hungrier. I don't I don't
quite know what to think of this Washington team yet.
I like their head coach. I think he works and
does a tremendous job.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
But I just feel like the team that is hungrier
right now is Washington State.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Uh. If the fans may not be, that's that's the
loss on their part, because I think you're gonna get
to see, uh some good football.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Well, clearly coming in Wazoo will have an emotional advantage,
But in your experience as an athlete, how long does
that emotional advantage last? And then it just fades away
and it just becomes a football game. Guys on guys,
you know.
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Pretty quick if you understand what's at stake. I remember
when we played in ninety seven and there was so
much at stake for us, you know, and we don't
score a point in the first quarter. We pretty much
we led the nation in scoring. I think we were
tied for first with Nebraska, and we didn't score a
point in the first quarter. And there was never a
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moment wherever we looked around at each other and went, oh,
what's going on. It was just, you know, a matter
of you know, the next play, the next big play,
and the next big explosion playing. Sure enough, it did.
It came a little bit later to CJ. And so
that's just the way we went about it. There was
a lot of emotionality. It was more emotional I think
my freshman year when I walked into the Husky Stadium
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than I was in ninety seven. I think it was
more of a business gript in ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
And the fact that this is being played at lumen Field,
you know, you kind of take away from the from
the home. I don't know why this decision was made
to do this, this one doesn't make too much sense
for me in terms of while they were playing it there.
I don't care if it's in Husky Skadio Stadium after
it was their last year and have it back to
back years, that doesn't bother me. I don't know why
they did this part of it though.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Well, I mean, and a lot of Cougar fans are
showing they agree with you bye by by not buying
tickets for tomorrow. I thought it'd be a great call
to split the stadium in half purple and gray, or
purple and gold, crimson and gray, and just do it,
you know, a fun thing every year. But I'm kind
of trending with you now, Ryan, I think I'd rather
have the game in Pullman than at lumen Field. I
think this game belongs on a campus. It belongs in
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Pullman or Husky Stadium. But you mentioned last year's game.
Jet Fish went to Pullman and knocked the hell out
of Wazoo forty four to six. He may not have
a noa ffeat to now Era and Will Rogers, but
he's got Jonah Coleman and Jonah Coleman last year had
fifteen touches for one hundred sixty eight yards and three
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touchdowns in that game total. Against Wazoo, he was actually
their leading receiver in the game. So how much can
we glean from last year's beat down when kind of
forecasting what's going to happen tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I think you can.
Speaker 9 (42:16):
I think there's a lot to take from it. But
I also think anytime something like that happens, Jake Dickard
and his staff have a lot to take from it.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I mean, they they know.
Speaker 9 (42:27):
What executed poorly for them that allowed for such you know,
giant explosives that Arizona produced. So you can read into
it that Jeff Fish has a game plan and an
idea of going against the team that he has a
he has a sense for. But you know, you throw.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
All that out with it being a rivalry game, and then.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
You also throw out the idea that that Jake Dicker,
who is an incredibly good coach, good schemer, and his
defensive his defensive coordinator or schmidding that they are not
going to have a real plan in place to stop Coleman.
They're gonna find and ask I would assume Rogers to
beat them tomorrow, and if that's the case, that's gonna
put a lot of pressure and onus on the defensive
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backfield who showed up last week. A lot of youngsters, freshman,
redshirt freshman who I don't have a lot of experience,
but when asked and given a challenge by Jake Dickert
over the last two weeks, they have really showed up
and played well.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
So I would expect.
Speaker 9 (43:27):
Them to have a plan to try to take away
Jonah Coleman. The good thing about a player like him
and what they do scheme wise offensively, everybody knows you're
gonna run football, and they still run it with great efficiency.
That's what makes them so good at what they're doing.
So I would expect that's to still for them to
still try that. If if I'm Jake Dickert and and
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I'm presenting the scheme defensively, i am loading that box,
and I'm putting a lot of man demand stuff, and
I'm saying, Rogers, you know you're You're the one that's
gonna have to beat us.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
To the former coover quarterback Ryan Leaf joining us. Ryan,
we know how many Cougar fans feel about the Huskies
quote unquote destroying the Pac twelve by leaving for the
Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, did the.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Cougars destroy the Mountain West by taking their four Veggus brands.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Well, I I mean you could, you could actually if
you wanted to take that perspective.
Speaker 9 (44:22):
There's a survival that's going on here too. Like you know,
Washington and Oregon didn't leave to survive. You would have
survived in the Pac twelve if you all stayed together
and kept playing and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
They were just there's more of a selfish, you.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
Know, kind of money money grab there that exists. So
I think that's more of an understanding of why people
are upset. If you want to bounce a mirror backt
at Oregon State and Washington State, you know, go ahead.
I just I don't think there is much in terms
of accountability there that exists. But listen, you know, a
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year and a half from now, this is all this
is all happening again. All right, there's gonna be another realignment.
There's gonna be h it's gonna blow all up. So
it wouldn't surprisingly the thing that Washington State and Oregon
State have going for him if they stayed, and I
think you were forced to because they didn't have anywhere
else to go. And now they have the PAC twelve brand,
and guess what they're going to be teams that are
coming back, And guess who's gonna have a say and
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who's allowed back into the PAC twelve conference brand in
a year and a half and two years, it's gonna
be Washington State in Oregon State. And if they're a
little resentful or a little petty about some stuff, it
could get very interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean, good for you.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean, look, I just think it's a situation where
everybody's just trying to better their situation. Yeah, you, Dubb
could have stayed in the PAC twelve, but so it
could have Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, all those teams
and they decided to bolt after the LA Schools and
Colorado took off. I think sometimes people forget the timeline.
But all of this is about survival. All of this
is about trying to better your own situation. So I
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guess the question for the Cougars, do they have a
better show of finding their way into that twelve team
playoff in this new look PAC twelve or the old
school PAC twelve that we had up until last year.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I do. I think, I really thought, because the schedules
they were gonna have if they could find it upset
of Texas Tech and Washington Like, there's a real chance
if Oregon State is able to do what I think
they're easily capable of doing, that's beating Oregon tomorrow, these
two teams could play on November twenty third, ranked with
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a chance to throw a huge grenade into the College
Football Playoffs. Not that I think anybody from that committee,
regardless of Washington State or Oregon State being undefeated or
one loss team at the end of this year, of
that committee allowing them into the tournament, I still don't
think they would ever do something like that.
Speaker 9 (46:53):
But I love the fact that that may be the case.
Might have two undefeated teams, maybe a team with one loss,
or both teams one lost, playing on November twenty third
on the CW network on a national network where everybody
in the whole country can watch it. And you know,
me and Ted Robinson may be calling that game in
front of eight eight million people.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Who knows.
Speaker 9 (47:12):
That would be a lot of fun, and I think
it would be really great for the Pac twelve, the brand,
and for those two teams. And that may be just
a view through my Crimson colored glasses, but it's one
that I'm willing to think as possible.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Well, Ryan, you mentioned a couple months ago about teams
potentially trying to get back in the PAC twelve and
it's going to be up to Wazoo and Oregon State.
Who do you think will ask back to the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Well, I would suspect in two years when the college
football Playoffs media rights deal is up and the National
Collegiate Football League becomes a reality and the NCAA is
non existent and doesn't exist, eighteen to twenty two teams
in each conference. They're going to be teams like.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
UCLA possibly I know for sure, cal Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah.
Most likely they'll all they'll all need a place to land.
You know, that's just the truth. They're not going to
be asked into the collegiate National Collegiate Football League.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
They won't have the money.
Speaker 9 (48:12):
I would say it's Washington or again USC, possibly Stanford
because of because of the academics. Those are the four
teams that I would see from the PAC twelve. Maybe
that would be the National Collegiate Football League that was
from the original PAC twelve, And that means that there
are eighteens, six teams that have left that would be
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asking to come back to be part of something. And
that's that's a real, real thing, a reality, and that
would allow the regional, the regionality of women's volleyball and
women's basketball, baseball, all those things to be back where
they should be playing in the same regions and not
having to fly across the country. If you're Stanford volleyball
having to play you know, Florida State on a Thursday
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and then Clemson A on a Saturday and then get.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
Back it's to school. It's just it's ridiculous. And so
that's that's.
Speaker 9 (49:04):
Where I think the reality is coming in a year
and a half when the new media rights deal is
up and the whole thing gets blown up again and
realignment starts all over again for everybody. So unfortunately, this
is the world we live in now. And with that.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
It becomes a private entity not ruled by the NCAA,
with a ZAR in place that most likely will have
some different kind of regulations around nil and transfer because
it's a private entity when it comes to the competition.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, well, Ryan Leaf is with us, and Ryan, just
to wrap it up, we can disagree on tomorrow's game.
I think the Huskies are going to kick your ass tomorrow,
but we'll find out. I'm sure i'll hear from you
if the opposite happens after the game on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
And that's fine. You got my number.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
But one thing we can't agree on, and maybe you
Can'tkies are doing the game. You want to be professional,
but hey, go beads baby, come on, if that chainsaw
going take care of those ducks tomorrow, Ryan, there's a.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
Snapshot of me on the field. You guys. Just check
out my ki somewhere and that will tell you where
my where, where my where? My loyalties lie a little bit,
all right it.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I love it all right, man, thanks for doing this.
We'll talk soon. Man, appreciate it, alright.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Go coubs, all right, go dogs.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Ryan leaf with us on the aar. We're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
We'll get the other side from Rick new Heisel next
on ninety three three kJ RFM.
That's part of our never ending coverage for the twelfth
Man in the NFL.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's Zuffdi and Dick.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Let's get to it, Ryan Leef, I'll join us top
of the hour. But joining us right now in the
radio program, my favorite Husky quarterback of all time here, Milan.
How are you I like a rud Not true. I
was twelve years old when you beat Oklahoma and the
Orange Bowl.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
And then you know, a day for Washington, and little
did you know that fifteen years later I'd be installing
your stereo.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
You beat me to it, you son of a bitch.
I had to right there.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
That's exactly that defense is a good offense. Well, let's
get to it, man. I'm gonna pull an old graze
on you here for a sec. Yeah, you're ready?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
When I say apple cup, what do you think? Oh?
She's remember that?
Speaker 5 (01:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
I do when I say Apple Cup, what do you think?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Well, I think obliterated. I think it's just kind of
been vaporized. Whatever I think of the Apple Cup, basically
all the all the substantive part of it no longer exists.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
That will be my first thought.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Wow, geeze, way to go party pooper, Yeah a little
bit right.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, Well, I mean I.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Think, like you kind of it's interesting you're saying that
because you kind of sound like a Cougar fan when
you're saying that.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I really do.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
I don't know a lot of Husky fans that have
gone that far. So why have you gone that far
as to say it's been vaporized?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Well, I just.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Think West Coast football, just the dissolution of the Pac twelve.
It's it's saddening to me. And and uh, you know,
when I think of the Apple Cup, I think of
it's us in the same conference and having a significant
bowl game on the line, and the Cougars as a
general rule out performing their resources and being scrappy. And
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they may be all of that, but just you know,
it's just such a divergent path.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
I don't know, I think it's kind of self evident
that it's you know, the most of the material part
of it is is gone.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
At least to me.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
I understand they're going to keep playing, but you know,
they may not after a few years.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
It just seems like most of the good things I
liked about the Applica Cup.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
No longer exists. I'm not saying all yeah, I'm just
saying most.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And honestly, guys, now that I'm thinking about this, is
this a five year deal, so it's looming, and then
pullman Seattle, Pullman Seattle.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
For Wazoo to agree to keep this.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thing going after this current five year contract, you they
may have to win one, right, I mean, if they
just keep getting destroyed every single year, like U dub
and Gonzaga and the Huskies just said the hell with this,
they might just say the hell with it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
If they don't get one of these wins.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, I don't know any Husky that's going to go
in and say, well, let's let this be the year
they beat us. But I understand. You know, it was
like back when Rich Brooks was the coach for Oregon.
You know, DJ beat him fifteen out of eighteen, and
that just seemed to be about right. You know, you
don't like the three that we lost, but it kept stability.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
But if you're.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
A fan of the Apple Cup and that stability needs
to be maintained with a Cougar win every once in
a while, then maybe in some weird abstract way.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
You'd be rooting for that.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
What's the emotional advantage this team's got coming in? The
Kooks have coming out. I don't know if they're going
to have a lot of rockets support from the crowd,
but they certainly will be you would think more emotional
than Washington will be coming into this game.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Well, I think that they've done a good job of
keeping everybody together and I'm surprised how few hit the
transfer portal. So I think there's probably something to their
collective makeup. And I think Jake Dickard is going to
tap into all of their competitiveness, right, I mean the
greatest competitors, you know, Michael Jordan the documentary. I mean,
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he'll find anything, He'll make stuff up in his mind,
he'll lie, he'll you know, everybody's looking for some kind
of edge, and certainly the events of the last few
years have provided that. With respect to the Cougars and
and there there. I don't want to say their status,
but but there, you know their future relative to Washington,
I think there's plenty there. Well, what do you I
just imagine being a captain of the Cougars. I think
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there'd be plenty to try and get my teammates, you know,
amped up as high as we could be.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
No, absolutely, what do you make of this gun slinger
Johnny Mattier starting quarterback for the Cougars.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
At a little ELM Texas.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
Game number one throws for three fifty game number two
runs for a buck ninety seven.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Well, I watched all the tape there against Texas Tech.
And you know, I coached youth football for twenty four
seasons and on the East Side, if you go from
a kid all the way up through there's eight level
starting with seven eight nine year olds. That's the rookies,
five levels of youth and three levels of high school,
culminating obviously in varsity. And I coached all levels. And
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when I put on the tape, first thing, I just
look at at the Cougars, It's it's like a youth
football offense. It's just and we've seen this before, it's
like getting in the in the single wing. You got
your best athlete. He's he's the quarterback. Let's just block
for him. Let him run left, run right, right up
the middle of what have you. And so there's that
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with respect to the the offense, respect as respect to
the to him the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
If I was just talking to my.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Boys, I don't mean my sons, but my my frat boys,
I'd say he's nasty, you know, just but since I'm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
On the radio, bad and nasty. What do you mean
by that? I mean both.
Speaker 4 (05:49):
When I watch him throw his passing motion, it's like
he's trying to skip rocks. He has this horizontal fall
through that just looks nasty to my I wrote down
in my notes painful, inaccurate. I think he's at fifty
six percent. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm just saying in
terms of how he misses his first interception, guy's wide open.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
How his ball placement, he just looks like.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
A guy who's who was really supposed to be the
fullback in the middle linebacker on the youth football team.
But somehow he could actually throw it a little better
than everybody else. So let's just make him the quarterback, right,
and and so nasty in that regard like I don't.
It's not real true quarterbacking to my eye, but also
nasty in terms of his athleticism. This guy, you know,
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he's a stocky dude. He's listed at six to one
and it's probably closer to six foot but two seventeen.
He's thick. Uh, he's got great lateral quickness. You know,
he's kind of like, you know, the poor man's Jake Locker,
and he probably has better lateral quickness.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I mean, I think it's irony. It's an interesting weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You know, Saturday the Huskies are playing a white dude
at quarterback who moves like a brother. And Sunday the
Seahawks are playing a brother who moves like a white dude.
And so you know that's just kind of part of
the prep when you when you look at at mateir
I mean, look this guy. And and here's the thing
they will run for football people. You've got you got
the uh they run power encounter a lot of gap
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scheme stuff. What does that mean if Matiar's gonna go
over left tackle, the left tackle and left guard to
go slam down towards the line of scrimmage and they're
gonna pull both the right side guard and the right tackle.
And in a simple terms, if you're defending that, you
got to say, look, you got to anchor.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
That defensive tackle's got to anchor. That's one adjective.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Write that down, dick anchor the the end manalyed scrimmage.
He's got to close in on those pollers. So anchor
and close and then linebacker stuff to scrape anchor closed scrape.
They've got to do that because they're going to see
these power encounters. Again, that's gap scheme in the in
the manner I described, And you know.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
What they'll do.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
They'll take the running back and they'll kind of give
a token fake and then he'll lead up as a
lead blocker like he's the full back and matis the tailback,
and they'll do this all the time. And one of them,
I'll just close with this. They they ran the OT
counter to the right. OT who's the backside guard and
the backside tackle. So everything's supposed to go to the right.
The running back, the line's on the right, he's like
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lead blocking all of the all of the blockings to
the right, and Matier just kind of goes, oh, I
think I see something in the left.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
He makes a dude miss going to his left. There's
no blockers there.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
And then he makes you know, at the first level,
and then he makes another guy miss at the second level,
and then and then it gets eleven yards out of
if I watch it to go the hell they get
eleven yards out of that when he when he went,
you know, one hundred and eighty degrees opposite of where
the ball was supposed to go. But look, so he's
nasty in a complimentary sense. He's nasty in a derogatory
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sense when I watch him throw. He's nasty in a
complimentary sense when I watch how dynamic he is with
the football in his hands.
Speaker 6 (08:43):
So how do you go about defending that? You just
crowd the line of scrimmage. You let your cornerbacks be
on an island because you don't have any threat of
a deep passing game once.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
So, well, you better be careful about man to man
coverage and who's assigned to the quarterback because you go
man to man and they run out vertical. Now they're
going to create a lot of space. I mean, he
had a twenty three yarder that made whoa he's got
He had a sixty eight yard er I mean, this dude,
he doesn't have lockers speed, but he's he's he's he's
a big time, legitimate open field threat. So so i'd
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be careful about man coverage. Yes, I would like to
play press on the outside, Dick with your corners, but
you can play zone behind that. If you press in
the zone, you take away the quick game and the
hitches and the slants and and kind of create more
of a vertical game. A lot of of the routes
convert to verticals, and so I would play press, but
i'd play a lot of zone because I need a
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lot of eyeballs pursuing, you know, in conjunction.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
After that dude, well, because of his nastiness, you've had eight.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Quarters of Husky football. You've had four quarters of Seahawks football.
Let's start with the Dogs, then go to the Hawks.
Who have you been? Remember a couple of years ago,
you made that call early on Troy fod Tone. You
said that guy over there, he's going to be badass.
And I'm not saying there's a five ton of on
this team, but anybody on the Huskies that's kind of rescue.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
So far, after eight quarters, well, I think as a party.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
You know, and everybody loves his name, right, But I
would say he's the best lineman if we're going lineman.
But you know, I don't know at what stage they
you know, they say when Columbus, I don't say discovered America,
but traveled to America, there was nobody in the western
hemisphere that was using the wheel, So you think the
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wheel would be pretty ubiquitous concept. But if that's true,
I would like to know that the time where somebody said, hey,
let's try it round and and at that time and
they said, yep, let's stop. That's good, We've got it.
It's solved. Wheels should be round. So I would say,
when I'm looking and you ask me, who's catching my attention,
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there's no need to reinvent anything. Just like when you
see a wheel, you know you can stop that. Jonah Coleman,
he's he's the dude. I love watching this guy. I
love his vision, I love his balance, I love his strength,
I love his cutback ability, I love his open field running.
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So that's the guy who's caught my You know, he's
clearly the best football player on the team in my opinion.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
Do you I was just gonna say, I mean, do
you do you pound him?
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Then?
Speaker 6 (11:16):
Is that your game plan just to pound? And what
do you think of that matchup with the Cougar defensive
line that you've seen on film.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I think you try and have balance. I wouldn't just say, well,
let's go pound him. I think there's gonna be opportunities
to throw the football. And I would say the quarterback
took a big jump in my eyes. I think Will Rogers,
you know, I told you after the game one wasn't impressed,
missed a lot of stuff. But I thought his experience
really showed in the last game, really good playing on time.
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And I think he has limited physical skill set, but
I think that that he knows where he's going with
the ball and importantly he makes his decisions or and
you know, on his deep ball, he's got enough touch.
You know that he can lay the ball out there
and let people go get it. So I wouldn't just
say well, let's let's stomp, crush kill would I would
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go in there trying to be balanced, Dick, and you
know on neutral downs, let's try and probe both in
the running game and the passing game. But Coleman, you know,
obviously has he can he can turn a bad running
play into a good one, and you can take turn
a good one into a great one.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
What about the Hawks after Week one?
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Well, I've mentioned this before, Dick. I think I texted you.
You got Julian Love. He had ten solo tackles. If
you take the most recent two safeties that made the
Hall of Fame, Troy Polamalu and Ed Reid, they had
three hundred and sixty two combined starts in regular season
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and playoffs. And in all of those three sixty two
there was Dick exactly zero games where either of them
ever had ten solos. Plus he had a forced fumble,
plus he had a pick. So I would say, just
hit and the open field tackling. But there's a lot
to like on that tape. Now I know we're getting
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tight Terrell Dotson. I really like him in space, his coverage,
his movement skills.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
They're going to be playing hardball.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
I watched that Patriot tape and the Patriots offensive line
first thing, first play, first thing that the I cognized
the even reck, I go, well, those are tight splits
the offensive line, very tight splits, and they just kind
of want to play rugby and come downhill, and so
I'm a little bit concerned about the hardball nature of
Dodson and Baker, particularly if they want to borrow what
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Denver had a little bit of success with what's called
an ISO play. They don't have a fullback on their
lineup like the Broncos have number twenty, but they can
put a tight end in and then have him as
a lead blocker. As good as the Sea Arx play
as well as they played that, there was a weakness
there at the point of attack with lead blocking. So
that has me a little bit concerned. Given what the
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Patriots did on the ground last week.
Speaker 6 (14:08):
I got to ask you, as a dad of a quarterback,
and as a quarterback yourself, if you were to his dad,
what you to advise him to do right now?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Well, you know people are going to say, well, that's
not very PC to start with the money, but I
think it's it's it's it should be mentioned, So let's
just get it out of the way. So Tua has
one hundred and sixty seven million dollars guaranteed. Forty three
million has been paid. The remaining one hundred and twenty
four million of his guaranteed money must is that if
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he's medically cleared and he chooses to retire, he will
lose one hundred and twenty four million. Now if he
is not medically cleared. This that's where it's going to
be really pivotal, Like who's doing the evaluating right? And
I understand there'd be a panel or multiple butt but
let's just talk about that. But I look and I say,
how much has he made if he never plays again
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and they medically clear him. But he says, I don't
want to play because he's going to retire. He will
have made in his career seventy three point five million.
That should be enough unless he wants to live like
Mick Jagger. You know, you got ten million and handed
ten million to a broker. Reasonably, you're going to get
at least fifty grand a month. Get you got twenty
million in the bank and give it to a broker
or whatever. It should be one hundred grand a month.
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So he should be more than fine for the rest
of his life. Having said all that, what I would
advise him, he's had he has had injured brain tissue,
and what I would advise him, I'd say, you get
the very best dudes on the planet. Multiple plural, and
you get their advice about what the risks are and
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what you're dealing with here, because he's got two young
kids and he doesn't need to play and everybody would understand.
So I'm assuming that guy loves football and he won.
You know, that's the funnest thing in the world for him.
Fun Police says, you can't say that, So okay, the
most fun thing he can do is why can't we
say funnest? Right, we can say tannis, we can say thinnest,
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we can't say funnest. Anyways, the most fun thing that
that he does in his life has probably played professional football,
and so I'm assuming he wants to, but he doesn't
need to, and I would want to get the very
best in the world to weigh in on it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Yeah, well, he might want to keep making money to
live like Mick Jagger because he's got some Puerto Rican
girls that are.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
Dying to meet him.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Yeah, all nice pool, We gotta go, good stuff.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Man, have fun. We're talking a week rock and roll
Hammerda you're milling with us.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Ryan Leef coming up at a six pm hour talking
to Apple Cup right here on ninety three three kjr FM.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Now back to the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday
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Speaker 5 (16:50):
kJ r FM.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
I'm concerned you about Jacoby Burssett on when you think
about Jacoby Brissett back to pass, looks left, looks right now.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I am more concerned about Jacoby Brissett going into this
game than I was Bonnicks going to the last game.
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, I'd agree with that because he knows what he's doing.
He's like an eight year NFL veteran. Yeah, you know,
he was recruited by start by the way you dub
all right. Yeah, Now he's been in the NFL for
I think he's is this his tenth year in the NFL?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
How many years has he been around? He's been around
long damn time? Dan and we what do we say?
Speaker 6 (17:28):
It was like a four to one touchdown interception ratio
in his career. Like, he's done a pretty good job
being a journeyman sick up that occasionally starts a few game.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah, this is his uh, this is tenth year in
the NFL three six ninth sorry, nine years in the
National Football League. But yeah, I mean he's started forty.
This is his fiftieth start in the NFL. So would
I rather see Drake May who could be a complete
third Sandwich than Jacoby Brissett, of course? But Apple Cup
On Saturday, Carson Bruner, Denzel Boston. So they're redoing the
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team room over at U dub Dick, the meeting room.
They're getting new chairs putting there. So we've been meeting
with the Huskies this week and I think it's the
defensive meeting room. And in the defensive meeting room they
have the Apple Cup trophy case. It's actually part of
the wall. It's not like a separate trophy case. It's
like in the wall, okay, right, like you think of
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like an entertainment system or whatever. And so they're literally
doing the press conference next to the trophy and I'm
talking to Denzel Boston, Carson Bruner asking those guys on
Star Warck Carson, how important is it for you to
keep that trophy in that wall over there?
Speaker 5 (18:34):
Very important?
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Very important. I mean it's been taken away from me
once since I've been here. It was something that when
I came in, I mean I already said it, but
it's something that I look at every single day we
have team meeting, and I mean, I won't forget the
moment when it got taken away from us and kind
of sitting here for a whole entire year looking at
the empty case. It was not fun for me. It
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didn't sit well for me. And then when obviously we
were able to get it back and keep it last
year as well. So kind of going to this game,
I mean, it's it's a big game, and I mean,
you can you could say it's another game, and it
really is. By the end of the day. I mean,
there's a trophy with it. People call it a rivalry,
it's the Apple Cup all that, but that trophy means
a lot to me, the history between these two teams
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and all that, so be I'm gonna keep it there.
It's very important to me.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
Denzel.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
How about you.
Speaker 8 (19:21):
Well for me, I say, you know, I've never not
seen the trophy in the case, so you know, it's
definitely a personal thing, Like I don't want to see
it empty. I don't think Carson wants to see it
empty on his last year, especially, so you know, that
trophy is real special to us. And you know, like
he was saying, with the history and everything behind it.
You know, our plan is definitely to keep it here.
Speaker 9 (19:42):
Do either guys either one of you guys have friends
over at Washington State that you're gonna be playing against.
Speaker 8 (19:46):
Oh yeah, they talk to me all the time, and
I tell them while I'm here, we don't lose no coups.
It's a bull statement, but I put it there.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Carson, you mentioned that loss.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Does that still kind of staying today that what DeLaura
did on that field still kind of you carry that
with you just a little bit.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
A little bit.
Speaker 7 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean, obviously they made their statement, they beat
his far and score that year. I congratulate them on
the win. They played a good game, and I mean,
obviously it was a rough season for us and it
was a rough ending, but something where it almost kind
of drives me to continue to get better. And every
time we've played them, just kind of remember that moment.
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It brings that extra aggression, that extra passion to the
game when you think about it. And I know DeLaura,
I mean he did what he did. I know he
did apologize even after, and I mean he's a great
guy as well, class that guy, so obviously I know
it wasn't man out of any harm or nothing like that.
But I mean there's just a little something else to
this game and to this, to this game coming up
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between these two teams.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
So Denzel Boston dry because his first year was twenty
twenty two, which was Divors first year, and they beat
him fifty one to thirty three. Twenty twenty one was
the year they lost to Jayden DeLaura in Seattle.
Speaker 2 (20:59):
But yeah, I mean you were.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Talking about all the guys that are not from here,
that are brand new to the roster, like you know,
and maybe it's just his demeanor, you know, but we're
talking about Rogers on Monday about the Apple was like, yeah,
I've been a.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Part of egg Bowl whatever.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I don't know if he really shows up like spitting
blood and drooling for the game, but these guys could
get him to feel that way by Saturday if they
could have.
Speaker 6 (21:22):
How do you just tell somebody you're supposed to be
fired up for a rivalry game if you've never experienced yourself.
And I just think I just counted twenty four guys
in the two deep that have never played in this game, right,
and then you can add another seven or eight that
have never did have been on the roster for this game,
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but have never played in this game.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
You're talking about.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Over thirty guys that have never played in an Apple
Cup that are going to play TOMORROWSOS Washington.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
This is why I'm nervous about the game. And you
asked me in the first hour of the show, you
asked me, if the talent has so much better, why
should I be nervous about tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Because of that reason.
Speaker 6 (22:04):
That's the only one, exactly, and that's a big ass reasons.
Legs are the only reason that we should be nervous
about this game.
Speaker 3 (22:12):
Let me explain to you, excuse me, what you do
about Matis legs. You know what you do about Matis legs.
You knocked the piss out of him, is what you do.
If he's gonna run the ball fifteen twenty times, then
you take a crack at him and you make it hurt.
And this is football, all right. I don't care if
people have a problem with that. What do you think
they're wearing helmets for? And Pats, he's gonna run like
a crazed animal out there tomorrow in the game, then
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make it hurt. And he look, I mean he's not
Lamar Jackson. He's six foot one two twenty. I mean,
he should be able to take a beating if he's
gonna keep taking it, taking off and running. But at
some point in time, you want to make it hurt.
And you you mentioned how do you get a guy
like Will Rogers fired up for this? Well, there's a
linebacker for Wazoo that shut off his mouth this week
saying that if they get pressure on Will Rogers is
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gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
I just show that to him. Yeah, I heard that cut.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
I mean, I get what Brendan Carroll said that quarterbacks
under pressure are are worst blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
But I mean I would take that as a shot.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
If I'm Will Rogers, I would be like you said,
like Michael Jordan, just you know, I would. I would
take it as an insult. I'd make up whatever gonna
make up. That's a shot at our quarterback, I understand.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
I mean, on the scale of one to ten, ten
being the most egregious thing, it was like a one
point seven.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
No, I don't agree with that, really, Yeah, because I
think the players will make it way bigger, they'll make
it way better.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
Right, But what was said one point If they make it,
if they make it into a seven.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Then that's great.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
That's what they'll do is say, hey, did you see
what this guy said about you? This guy says you
suck under pressure. This guy says you're gonna piss your
pants under pressure. This guy says you can't handle the blitz.
Oh yeah, okay, man, watch what happens now. I mean,
I just that's what that's what they do. That's what
you're supposed to do, and Washington State should do the
exact same thing. You know what, I'm actually curious about
because that in like English soccer games the Premier League,
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the visiting fans can't mingle with the opposing fans, right.
They put them in a separate spot and they bring
him in a different times. There's a reason why they
do that. I wonder how much of that we're gonna
see tomorrow in this game. How how how angry are
fans gonna be in the stands. Don't there's gonna be.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
A little vintery all the stands tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
No, no, no, it's gonna be not I mean to
try to answer to that, to try to compare it
to a Washington Oregon game in Austin, it's gonna.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Be like, no, it's gonna be nothing compared to that
that I would agree with.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
But I I just wonder for the Apple Cup, can
we have a little amiosity in the stands tomorrow.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
I just I'm thinking it was at seven o'clock all
of us are taking Coug's.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
I'm bringing up my best friend, the cook fans.
Speaker 6 (24:34):
So being in Seattle, there are going to be so
many parties that are gonna be ten Huskies and ten Cougars.
There's just not gonna be I mean, I'm not gonna
say there's never gonna be a fight between a Husky
and the cougar in the stand.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Okay, that could happen, but.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I just I just don't think there's gonna be buzz
at all.
Speaker 3 (24:53):
Well how about this, how about if we see a
a female Cougar fan and a male Husky fan going
at and his dick and his wife body slammings.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
You will not sleep in this bed tonight.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
You are sitting in the garage and you know it,
all right, we're gonna break Chris Price by the way
from the Boston Globe on the Patriots. Did you hear
who they're bringing by the way to honor at the
game on Sunday? Wait, until you hear this from Yes
next on KJRFS.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Now back to the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday
with Satian Dick on your Home for the NFL Sports
Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Alright, we had Arizona plus the seven against Kansas State
in Factor fiction right yes on fourteen seven down fourteen
to seven, early second quarter. Kansas State just took the
lead fourteen to seven early second from Manhattan, so keep
an eye on that bad boy.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
But joining us right now on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
I was looking for somebody who knows the Patriots organization
inside and out. Only one guy can claim to be
that person in Boston. The rest of them are all pretenders.
Chris Price from the Boston Globe, joining us right now
on the radio show from New England.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
How are you man?
Speaker 5 (26:10):
You are way too kind, my friend. Thank you so
much for those nice words. I'm doing great. How you doing.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
I was gonna say we couldn't find anyone, so instead
we have you. But that's kind of like an old
trick that kind of gets tired after a while.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I just kind of keeping my.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
B from ESPN. Micree from ESPN wasn't available, so he
went to the next two name on the list, Chris Funny.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
I heard that Malcolm Butler is going to be in
the pregame on Sunday. That's got That's not coincidental, is
it because they're playing the Hawks on Sunday?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
You Oh, it's good, It's completely coincidental. I'm sure that
it has absolutely nothing to do with the end of
Super Bowl forty nine. I just it's just, you know,
he's in the area. He figured he'd stop buying, you know,
be a part of the pregame festadies. This is masterful
trolling on the part of the Patriots. Well, it really is.
All we need. Look, all we need is Brian Flores
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to be at the bottom of the stairs going Malcolm
go is r up the stairs, you know, to ring
the bell.
Speaker 7 (27:04):
Enough.
Speaker 6 (27:04):
Well, at least this team's a far cry from that one,
that's for dang sure. So let's talk about the team
that they're facing on Sunday. First of all, the quarterback position. Chris,
was it a good move to start Jacoby Brissett over
the rookie because a couple of teams decided not to
do that in Chicago and Denver?
Speaker 5 (27:20):
And yes, look, yeah, I mean you look at it
in a vacuum over the course of the spring in
the summer, and Drake may outplay Jacoby Presett. It really
easily out played Jakoby present. There really wasn't much of
a comparison when you just look at the ability to
get in a huddle quickly, the ability to live the ball.
He checked all of those rookie boxes. Now that being said,
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I don't think right now there is the appropriate amount
of infrastructure in place to be able to support a
young quarterback, a rookie quarterback, in the way that he
should be supported. And so you have a guy in
Jacoby Brissett who is the perfect man for this moment
on a lot of levels. Look, he played for alexand
Pelt in Cleveland. He knows the Vane offense better than
anyone else in that building. He is smart, he's capable,
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he is he has a great pocket presence about him. Look,
he's not a pro bowler. But at the same time,
this is a guy who you know what exits, you
know exactly what you're going to get with him. He
is not going to be the kind of guy who's
going to make that decisions. He's not gonna, you know,
for picks, He's not gonna throw takeaways. He is going
to be able to give you a baseline level of
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competent quarterback play, something we haven't seen here in New
England for the last couple of years. And I always
go back to this with Yakobe. This is the bottom line.
With him the quarterback now in New England, with him
under center, the quarterback will not lose you games like
we've seen over the last couple of years. He may
might not necessarily win you games all the time, but
he will not lose you games with his defense. That's
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exactly what they need.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Well, Chris Price Boston Glove with US Hawks Patriots on
Sunday would be the AMRA queen for the game. By
the way, where where's the playmakers on this football team?
On both offense and defense?
Speaker 5 (28:58):
Yeah? I mean right now, they're all on defense. Quite frankly,
you know, there's a couple of guys on the offensive
side of the ball, namely Ramondre Stevenson who rushed for
one hundred and twenty five yards last week. Look, you know,
he's not going to break the century mark every single week.
But I think he's underrated back and I think he's
a very important part of what they want to get
done offensively. On the defensive side of the ball, it's
really Keon White defensive end, young defensive end who really
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his ability to come on over the course this summer
made it possible for them to part ways with Matthew Judon.
He's not Matthew Judon, but he certainly helps recreate Judon
statistics in the aggregate. So I'll toss Keon White in there,
and then you have a really good secondary. You know,
you have guys like Jabrill Peppers and Kyle Dugger and
Christian gon Zalez, one of the best young corners in
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the league who I think is going to be spending
it off a lot of time, you know, chasing around
DK Metcalf. He was under mar chase duty last week
and did a really good job. So they're not you know,
your grandfather's Patriots. But at the same time, there are
enough playmakers on both sides of the ball to make
this thing interesting.
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Do Patriots fans think Drodd Mayo was the right hire
or would they have preferred a nationwide search as most
teams do.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
I think that the only other guy who was part
of the conversation if I'm a Patriots, say, and if
you know you have to make that move away from
Bill is probably Mike Rabel. That was the name that
a lot of other people had up here as the
guy who, look, he could slide right in. He's kind
of sort of an extension of the Belichick thought process,
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are tough, physical defense. You know, he's taken. He took
the Titans to the playoffs, so he's got that resume.
He's the only other guy who I think was even
remotely part of the conversation. But look, this is a
situation where the Crafts kind of a couple of years
ago identified girod Mao as the next guy. I don't
think they necessarily wanted to make this move or thought
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about making this move, you know a couple of years ago,
if they thought about making this move, you know, as
soon as they did. But the guys respond to him.
The guys like him, you know, they play hard for him.
He you know the phrase that always people always used
with him, He comands a room. You guys like him,
they enjoy him, and it seems to be working so far.
Look we're a game in but you know, again, we're
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seeing a really positive response from this roster.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Fresh Price, Boston Glove, Seahawks Patriots Sunday. Is this still
a coveted ticket to go watch a Patriot game?
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Yeah, not as not as nearly as much as it
used to be. But you know, put it this way,
the conversation will be different if the Red Sox were
in the playoffs. The Red Sox we're looking at the postseason.
You know, it's basically at this point right now, it's
the Celtics and you know, everyone else down everyone's going
to pay attention to the Red Sox. But you know,
the Celtics are the lead story here at least kind
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of you know, as it exists at this point. But yeah,
I mean it's supposed to be nice weather, the Seahawks
still draw, you know, the Seahawks still kind of you know,
move the needle around here for lack of a better term.
So I think it's gonna be you know, it should
be a good crowd on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
I really do well, Chris Price. Before you go, just
real quick, I got to get one in on Steve Belichick.
He's calling the defense over you. They got the Apple
look up tomorrow, and I mean the Patriot defense was
pretty good last year, right, we're like in ten to
eleventh in the NFL score. Why did Steve Belichick go
from calling a defense in the NFL to calling a
defense in college football?
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Because I think there was more possibility of advancements and
you know, a greater sense of ownership at least from
a coaching perspective. With deciding to move on from the
Patriots as also too. And I mean we talked to
his brother Brian here as well. He's stuck around as
a safety's coach. It was just time to move on,
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you know, in a lot of ways. And I think
that things have kind of started to warm up again
at least a little bit between the coach and the ownership.
And that's going to be a really interesting thing the
way you know, that's all going to play out over
the next few years. But I just think, you know,
at least from his perspective, it was time to move on.
There's a chance for him to, you know, achieve a
real measure of greatness on his own, away from his father,
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away from his father's legacy out there in Washington.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
All right, man, great stuff, buddy, appreciate you doing this.
Enjoy the weekend, and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Mistress.
Speaker 5 (33:06):
Sound good, Take care guys.
Speaker 3 (33:07):
All right, Chris Price, Boston Globe with a quick thought
on the Patriots, Ryan Leaf, We're going to get to
take on the Apple Cup from the Cougar perspective.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
All right, boys and girls, welcome back on a busy
Friday night right here on ninety three three KJRFMS offiing
Dick with you un till seven o'clock. And you knew
that we were not going to get to seven o'clock
without going behind enemy lines and talking to one of
the all time great Cougar quarterbacks before the Apple Cup tomorrow.
He's actually in Corvallis getting ready for the Civil War
Oregon and the Beaves on Westwood one tomorrow. But before
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he does that, he's with us. His name is Ryan Leaf,
and he joins us right now on the radio station.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Ryan, You're ready for tomorrow? How are you?
Speaker 5 (33:46):
Pal? Yeah, I'm excited. I'm both games are at the
same time, so I'll be calling. I'll be calling the
Civil War when when the Apple Cup's going on? So
I'm not I usually don't look at my phone and
things like that. I probably won't know the outcome until
the end. Wow.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
All right, So I'm going to ask you, after the
Civil War is over, if you did kind of take
a peek at the score. I don't know how you
get away with not doing that. Man, I'd go crazy
not being able to look at the apple cup. But
give us, first of all, man, give us your thoughts
on just the emotions surrounding this game for Cougar Nation
and for you. One of the big storylines, obviously is
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the crowd. Are are Cougar fans into it? Do they
want the game to be played at all? For the
first time?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Really?
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Ever, it certainly is an element that we have to
talk about regarding tomorrow's game.
Speaker 5 (34:39):
No, it is.
Speaker 9 (34:39):
I mean, it was a big conversation piece when it
all went down. I will say this thing about Cougar fans,
and I love them to death, and they've you know,
supported me and carried me. But there is a seemingly
when things go bad or are difficult, we develop resent.
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It's pretty easily, and I think there's an understanding that
needs to happen where you know, when we get knocked down,
because it happens a lot, it doesn't matter, Just get
back up and let's go. I don't care where we play,
who we play, what time we play. This might be
the coolest opportunity ever to play an Apple Cup with
the best winning percentages between two teams. You know, I
just I just want to look at it differently than
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most people. And for some reason, it just seems like
Hoop fans just feel so wronged through this whole process,
and it is, but they're just not unwilling to like
compromise and be like, just choose to be happy that
you're getting a chance to go watch a Cougar team
that literally has nothing to lose when they go out
and play, and that makes them a very dangerous, dangerous
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opponent for anybody.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Well, they got a dangerous quarterback.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
I mean, we saw a swash swashbuckler and Gardner Minshew
a few years ago, and it seems like they got
another one with better legs than Minshew. But tell me
what you think of John Mattier both as a passer
and a runner, because we've seen him scramble a lot.
We haven't seen him throw a lot of passes though,
well they haven't.
Speaker 9 (36:01):
Seen throw a lot of passes, but he hasn't had
to because his yards per attempt in that game are
like sixteen yards per attempt in the game against Portland
State where they hung seventy on them, and so you know,
he wasn't great throwing the ball against Texas Tech, but
the game plan called for more of a running game,
and instead he decided to go out and run for
almost two hundred yards. So I think this team and
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Ben Rbuckle, who I've been really impressed with as an
offensive coordinator, he's willing to accept anything and everything, and
he's willing to be diverse, and it's just something that
the air raid style offense that Mike Leach had.
Speaker 5 (36:35):
That he wasn't willing to do. Right, they jettison played
McGuire or McGuire as an offensive line coach, and they
brought in somebody new who was going to coach a
different mentality up front where it's not just about going backwards.
Speaker 9 (36:49):
You're taught in the air Raid to go backwards at
all times from the offensive line position, and then when
you're asked on third down and one or fourth down
and one to go forwards and be physical and get that,
they weren't able to do it. And I believe this
team is they may not be as big as the
other teams they face in the trenches, but they're going
to be as physical and that's what we've seen in
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the first two weeks. So I think it makes for
a very very interesting matchup. The Jetfish situation where he
dominated the coops last year and Jake Dickard with that
offense and the way they went about it, you know,
scares me a little bit that he has in some
insight and understanding of how to go about a Jake
Dickard off defense. But I think this is this sets
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up for a really competitive, good football game tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Well, and we'll talk about that Arizona game last year
in a segment. Ryan Leaf is with us. He's calling
the Civil War for Westwood one tomorrow. He's doing it
right during the Apple Cup, man believing that's got to
be torture for him to not get to watch the
Apple Cup tomorrow. But you'll be there doing doing the
doing the game for radio, being a pro. But dude,
let me just ask you about the talent, because in
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ninety seven when you came here and you beat the
Huskies in the Apple comp and they still have the image.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
As you know, burned into my brain.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
Have you dancing around like a clown in the end zone,
getting the Cougar fans all fired up. After that game
was over, that memory will never leave me. Cougar fans
on the goalpost trying to tear the damn thing down
on the cover of the paper the next day. But
there was a talent difference that day, and the biggest
one was at quarterback. Washington State had a guy that
finished third in the Heisman Trophy voting and it was you,
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for God's sakes, So the talent the talent. I still
think tomorrow favors Washington But is there enough of an
emotional advantage and motivation for Wazoo that you think will
really be on display tomorrow From a tangible perspective, I do.
Speaker 9 (38:44):
I think that Jake Dickerd just has been a wonderful
head coach for this team to having to go through
all this adversity and everything, and he presents real problems
with his scheme, he really does, and that makes things
a problem for its team that I don't know has
an identity so much yet. Are they a running team?
Are they a throwing team? You know, you've got a
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quarterback that that comes up from the air raid offense
and and is asked to do a little a little
different type of scheme. That that's that's the that's the
bigger question I have is the identity has been set
yet for what what coach Fish wants to do offensively Defensively.
I think they're stout, you know, they're they're they're very talented.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
You know, it's just.
Speaker 9 (39:26):
Gonna be a matter of who wants it more tomorrow,
it really is. And you know, of course I'm gonna
I'm gonna fall on the side of Washington State because
I just I just feel like they'll be hungrier.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
They'll just they'll just be hungrier. I don't I don't
quite know what to think of this Washington team yet.
I like their head coach. I think he works and
does a tremendous job.
Speaker 9 (39:44):
But I just feel like the team that is hungrier
right now is Washington State.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
Uh. If the fans may not be, that's that's the
loss on their part, because I think you're gonna get
to see, uh some good football.
Speaker 6 (39:55):
Well, clearly coming in Wazoo will have an emotional advantage,
But in your experience as an athlete, how long does
that emotional advantage last? And then it just fades away
and it just becomes a football game. Guys on guys,
you know.
Speaker 9 (40:09):
Pretty quick if you understand what's at stake. I remember
when we played in ninety seven and there was so
much at stake for us, you know, and we don't
score a point in the first quarter. We pretty much
we led the nation in scoring. I think we were
tied for first with Nebraska, and we didn't score a
point in the first quarter. And there was never a
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moment wherever we looked around at each other and went, oh,
what's going on. It was just, you know, a matter
of you know, the next play, the next big play,
and the next big explosion playing. Sure enough, it did.
It came a little bit later to CJ. And so
that's just the way we went about it. There was
a lot of emotionality. It was more emotional I think
my freshman year when I walked into the Husky Stadium
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than I was in ninety seven. I think it was
more of a business gript in ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (40:56):
And the fact that this is being played at lumen Field,
you know, you kind of take away from the from
the home. I don't know why this decision was made
to do this, this one doesn't make too much sense
for me in terms of while they were playing it there.
I don't care if it's in Husky Skadio Stadium after
it was their last year and have it back to
back years, that doesn't bother me. I don't know why
they did this part of it though.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
Well, I mean, and a lot of Cougar fans are
showing they agree with you bye by by not buying
tickets for tomorrow. I thought it'd be a great call
to split the stadium in half purple and gray, or
purple and gold, crimson and gray, and just do it,
you know, a fun thing every year. But I'm kind
of trending with you now, Ryan, I think I'd rather
have the game in Pullman than at lumen Field. I
think this game belongs on a campus. It belongs in
(41:39):
Pullman or Husky Stadium. But you mentioned last year's game.
Jet Fish went to Pullman and knocked the hell out
of Wazoo forty four to six. He may not have
a noa ffeat to now Era and Will Rogers, but
he's got Jonah Coleman and Jonah Coleman last year had
fifteen touches for one hundred sixty eight yards and three
(42:02):
touchdowns in that game total. Against Wazoo, he was actually
their leading receiver in the game. So how much can
we glean from last year's beat down when kind of
forecasting what's going to happen tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
I think you can.
Speaker 9 (42:16):
I think there's a lot to take from it. But
I also think anytime something like that happens, Jake Dickard
and his staff have a lot to take from it.
Speaker 5 (42:25):
I mean, they they know.
Speaker 9 (42:27):
What executed poorly for them that allowed for such you know,
giant explosives that Arizona produced. So you can read into
it that Jeff Fish has a game plan and an
idea of going against the team that he has a
he has a sense for. But you know, you throw.
Speaker 5 (42:47):
All that out with it being a rivalry game, and then.
Speaker 9 (42:50):
You also throw out the idea that that Jake Dicker,
who is an incredibly good coach, good schemer, and his
defensive his defensive coordinator or schmidding that they are not
going to have a real plan in place to stop Coleman.
They're gonna find and ask I would assume Rogers to
beat them tomorrow, and if that's the case, that's gonna
put a lot of pressure and onus on the defensive
(43:12):
backfield who showed up last week. A lot of youngsters, freshman,
redshirt freshman who I don't have a lot of experience,
but when asked and given a challenge by Jake Dickert
over the last two weeks, they have really showed up
and played well.
Speaker 5 (43:26):
So I would expect.
Speaker 9 (43:27):
Them to have a plan to try to take away
Jonah Coleman. The good thing about a player like him
and what they do scheme wise offensively, everybody knows you're
gonna run football, and they still run it with great efficiency.
That's what makes them so good at what they're doing.
So I would expect that's to still for them to
still try that. If if I'm Jake Dickert and and
(43:48):
I'm presenting the scheme defensively, i am loading that box,
and I'm putting a lot of man demand stuff, and
I'm saying, Rogers, you know you're You're the one that's
gonna have to beat us.
Speaker 6 (43:56):
To the former coover quarterback Ryan Leaf joining us. Ryan,
we know how many Cougar fans feel about the Huskies
quote unquote destroying the Pac twelve by leaving for the
Big Ten.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, did the.
Speaker 6 (44:09):
Cougars destroy the Mountain West by taking their four Veggus brands.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Well, I I mean you could, you could actually if
you wanted to take that perspective.
Speaker 9 (44:22):
There's a survival that's going on here too. Like you know,
Washington and Oregon didn't leave to survive. You would have
survived in the Pac twelve if you all stayed together
and kept playing and everything like that.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
They were just there's more of a selfish, you.
Speaker 9 (44:38):
Know, kind of money money grab there that exists. So
I think that's more of an understanding of why people
are upset. If you want to bounce a mirror backt
at Oregon State and Washington State, you know, go ahead.
I just I don't think there is much in terms
of accountability there that exists. But listen, you know, a
(44:59):
year and a half from now, this is all this
is all happening again. All right, there's gonna be another realignment.
There's gonna be h it's gonna blow all up. So
it wouldn't surprisingly the thing that Washington State and Oregon
State have going for him if they stayed, and I
think you were forced to because they didn't have anywhere
else to go. And now they have the PAC twelve brand,
and guess what they're going to be teams that are
coming back, And guess who's gonna have a say and
(45:21):
who's allowed back into the PAC twelve conference brand in
a year and a half and two years, it's gonna
be Washington State in Oregon State. And if they're a
little resentful or a little petty about some stuff, it
could get very interesting.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, I mean, good for you.
Speaker 3 (45:33):
I mean, look, I just think it's a situation where
everybody's just trying to better their situation. Yeah, you, Dubb
could have stayed in the PAC twelve, but so it
could have Utah, Arizona, Arizona State, Oregon, all those teams
and they decided to bolt after the LA Schools and
Colorado took off. I think sometimes people forget the timeline.
But all of this is about survival. All of this
is about trying to better your own situation. So I
(45:56):
guess the question for the Cougars, do they have a
better show of finding their way into that twelve team
playoff in this new look PAC twelve or the old
school PAC twelve that we had up until last year.
Speaker 5 (46:12):
I do. I think, I really thought, because the schedules
they were gonna have if they could find it upset
of Texas Tech and Washington Like, there's a real chance
if Oregon State is able to do what I think
they're easily capable of doing, that's beating Oregon tomorrow, these
two teams could play on November twenty third, ranked with
(46:33):
a chance to throw a huge grenade into the College
Football Playoffs. Not that I think anybody from that committee,
regardless of Washington State or Oregon State being undefeated or
one loss team at the end of this year, of
that committee allowing them into the tournament, I still don't
think they would ever do something like that.
Speaker 9 (46:53):
But I love the fact that that may be the case.
Might have two undefeated teams, maybe a team with one loss,
or both teams one lost, playing on November twenty third
on the CW network on a national network where everybody
in the whole country can watch it. And you know,
me and Ted Robinson may be calling that game in
front of eight eight million people.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
Who knows.
Speaker 9 (47:12):
That would be a lot of fun, and I think
it would be really great for the Pac twelve, the brand,
and for those two teams. And that may be just
a view through my Crimson colored glasses, but it's one
that I'm willing to think as possible.
Speaker 6 (47:22):
Well, Ryan, you mentioned a couple months ago about teams
potentially trying to get back in the PAC twelve and
it's going to be up to Wazoo and Oregon State.
Who do you think will ask back to the PAC twelve.
Speaker 5 (47:36):
Well, I would suspect in two years when the college
football Playoffs media rights deal is up and the National
Collegiate Football League becomes a reality and the NCAA is
non existent and doesn't exist, eighteen to twenty two teams
in each conference. They're going to be teams like.
Speaker 9 (47:54):
UCLA possibly I know for sure, cal Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah.
Most likely they'll all they'll all need a place to land.
You know, that's just the truth. They're not going to
be asked into the collegiate National Collegiate Football League.
Speaker 5 (48:11):
They won't have the money.
Speaker 9 (48:12):
I would say it's Washington or again USC, possibly Stanford
because of because of the academics. Those are the four
teams that I would see from the PAC twelve. Maybe
that would be the National Collegiate Football League that was
from the original PAC twelve, And that means that there
are eighteens, six teams that have left that would be
(48:34):
asking to come back to be part of something. And
that's that's a real, real thing, a reality, and that
would allow the regional, the regionality of women's volleyball and
women's basketball, baseball, all those things to be back where
they should be playing in the same regions and not
having to fly across the country. If you're Stanford volleyball
having to play you know, Florida State on a Thursday
(48:57):
and then Clemson A on a Saturday and then get.
Speaker 5 (49:01):
Back it's to school. It's just it's ridiculous. And so
that's that's.
Speaker 9 (49:04):
Where I think the reality is coming in a year
and a half when the new media rights deal is
up and the whole thing gets blown up again and
realignment starts all over again for everybody. So unfortunately, this
is the world we live in now. And with that.
Speaker 5 (49:18):
It becomes a private entity not ruled by the NCAA,
with a ZAR in place that most likely will have
some different kind of regulations around nil and transfer because
it's a private entity when it comes to the competition.
Speaker 3 (49:30):
Yeah, well, Ryan Leaf is with us, and Ryan, just
to wrap it up, we can disagree on tomorrow's game.
I think the Huskies are going to kick your ass tomorrow,
but we'll find out. I'm sure i'll hear from you
if the opposite happens after the game on Saturday night.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
And that's fine. You got my number.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
But one thing we can't agree on, and maybe you
Can'tkies are doing the game. You want to be professional,
but hey, go beads baby, come on, if that chainsaw
going take care of those ducks tomorrow, Ryan, there's a.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
Snapshot of me on the field. You guys. Just check
out my ki somewhere and that will tell you where
my where, where my where? My loyalties lie a little bit,
all right it.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
I love it all right, man, thanks for doing this.
We'll talk soon. Man, appreciate it, alright.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Go coubs, all right, go dogs.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Ryan leaf with us on the aar. We're gonna break.
Speaker 3 (50:13):
We'll get the other side from Rick new Heisel next
on ninety three three kJ RFM.
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