August 3, 2026 • 42 mins
In the third hour, Softy and Hugh talk to baseball insider Bill Krueger about the Mariners moves and about how Bill LOVES the Castillo trade, how the piggyback was never a good idea and his thoughts on the Dodgers getting Tarik Skubal and spending big. Also, Fun With Audio.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now from the Star Renolds Sports to Jordan ninety three
point three KJRFM sports headlines.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, we're back at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Headlines are brought to by our friends at Frost Brood Coors.
Liked as cold as the Rockies. Mariners making a couple
of deadline deals. You know about the Luis Castile deal
to the White Sox over the weekend that brought a
package including reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez. Well, today the Mariners
send reliever Alex Happy and two minor leaguers, Brock Moore
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and Harrison Criling, both pitchers both outside the top thirty
on the MLB pipeline list. So no big prospects given
up for Taylor Ward, left fielder, third baseman DH from
Baltimore thirty six home runs a year ago with the Angels,
but his power numbers way down this year. He does, though,
by the way, have the number one on base percentage
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of the Mariners right now at three point eighty three.
Elsewhere in baseball, Orioles sending catcher Atlee Rushman to Boston.
The Astros get outfielder Dartin Volsterer Varsha excuse me from
Toronto and former Mariner Robbie Ray goes from San Francisco
to San Diego. And speaking of San Francisco, the Yankees
working the phones at the last second, grabbing outfielder Elliott
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Ramos from the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Let's get to Bill Krueger right now.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
It's time for our weekly Conversation with Bill Krueger, brought
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in town. Now with Bill Krueger, here's Saftian Dick.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
All right, Safian Dick with no Dick.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
He's in for Dick today, joining us right now on
the radio program. Great day to have him on. With
the deadline coming and going a couple hours ago, a
Mariner is wrapping up business with the deal with the
White Sox, to deal with the Baltimore Orioles, and I
love that we have this guy on here on a
Monday after the deadline to talk about all of it.
Courtesy of the Occidental Hall, Okay, well, I'm hearing one
(02:01):
second from my producer, so I guess that means Bill's
not ready. But courtesy of the Occidental Hall, the Queen,
Anne Beer Hall, the mass be Hall, and Kirklan, we're
gonna have Bill Krueger join us in a second. And Hugh,
I think we got to get Bill's take as well
on the Tarrek Scuba deal right to the Dodgers. The
Tigers sending Tarrek scuball to the LA Dodgers and really
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not giving up a lot together them. I don't think
they gave up one of their top four prospects, so
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But we got him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He's ready here. He is our crafty left hander, Bill Krueger. Billy,
how are you, man? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm good, I'm good. Exciting day for the true baseball
fan for sure, across the across the whole league, and
across the country. So yeah, lots of names moving around.
I'm it's a bit of a blur for me at
this point.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, no doubt, Well, it is exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It also sometimes leaves marin or fans wanting a bit more,
as I know a lot of them do, right, now,
after the trade deadline deals the Mariners made, so let's
just talk about that. Luis Castillo and his contract are
gone to the White Sox for a package including a
veteran reliever by the name of Sir Anthony Dominguez. He
becomes the first Mariner reliever ever to make ten million
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dollars in a season.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And then you get.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Taylor Ward from Baltimore for Alex Hapi in two minor
league pitchers. So you take the floor of your thoughts
on the two trades that Jerry made in the last
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, I think the Castillo trade is just an absolute
yachtzi for the Mariners. They found someone that would take
Castillo's contract, which is just hard to imagine they were
able to pull that off.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think that's the biggest story of the whole deadline
for the Mariners is that they were able to move
off Castillo's money so they don't own the money the
rest of this year or next year. They got a
reliever that's a little that needs a little tweaking, guy
that's had a lot of success, got a little bit
of control problem, but he's got big stuff and he
doesn't have to close for the Mariners. He can set
up or he can pitch in the middle until they
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figure out maybe what makes him tick, because the Mariners
are very good at that. He's been a little scattery
walk numbers are up, has a tendency to come into
big situations and you know, throw a while pitch and
allow runners to move around. But this guy's upper nineties
with a really hard slider, a dark one. This is
a bonafide one two guy that gets right hand hitters out.
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So I think there's a lot of hope there. This
is a you know, a high seating type pitcher with experience,
so I think that's good. He's not the flashy name
on the market, and he hasn't been pitching great of late.
If you went and asked the people in Chicago, they'd say,
oh god, we can't can't trust him. He's he's all
over the place. Well, maybe he gets recast in a
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different role, And like I said, the Mariners are pretty
good at figuring out what what makes him tick. So
I like that they get a catching prospect that can
probably use to you know, in another d perhaps who
knows people covered catching. It's hard to find and Nolan
Jones is an extra outfielder that I don't know what's
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gonna happen with him. He had a couple a year
good year a few years ago with Colorado, but hits
left hand, and we got we're kind of long suited
on left hand hitt and outfielders, and then they get
Taylor Ward. So Taylor Ward is a bonafide big league
corner outfielder. Right. He had a couple of big years
with the Angels where he hit the ball all the ballpark,
and then this year in Baltimore he kind of flipped
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the script a little bit. He only had seven homers,
but he got on base at a three eighty clip
hit about two fifty. He's a good player. He's gonna
hit better against left handed pitching. He can play. It's
not like he plays once in a blue moon. He
can play. So it'll be interesting to see how they
kind of put this whole thing together once Brendan Donovan's
healthy and where exactly is he going to play? They
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weren't able to do anything at third base. That would
have been the best place to get somebody, but I
think that was a tough mark. They probably just could
not find anybody there. A right hand hitting third basement
just wasn't you know, to be had. I guess so,
but I think they did pretty well. You know, the
idea that you were gonna use George Kirby or Emerson
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Hancock or Brandy a Rose arena to this threading of
the needle where you're a buyer and you're a seller. Well,
like I've said before, Dave, you're either on the buy
side of the cell side. If you're buying, you're giving
up prospects, you're taking a veteran player, or you're going
the other way. That's what it is. It's a or B.
And they were trying to do the C move and uh,
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you know Kirby a Handcock move, that's a that's an
off season move. You could think about it. If you
want Kirby or Handcock and you're in contention, you're gonna
hand us. You're gonna hand the Mariners an everyday guy
that's in your lineup and hitting's at a premium. It's
not gonna happen, not gonna happen. It's just a it's fluff.
It's it's blust, it's bluster. It's nothing. Not that they
that they there wasn't somebody calling about them. But you
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know what, what they were going to give the Manners
in return would have been guys for the future, right,
And that's what you do when you're a seller and
the Mariners are still in this thing. The numbers in
the standings tell us that, and they've made a pretty
strong statement to Mariner fans to say we are in
it to start the season. So they're in it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They are in it, and Bill Krueger with us. So Bill,
you you make the the argument. You make the points
for why you like the deal. You're you sound a
little bit tempered in your enthusiasm, but you like the deal.
Now flip your cap around and make just a logical
argument against like like saying, hey, I don't like the
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deal for blank reasons.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean, you got Domingus is now a right hander
in a right handed loaded staff. I don't know what
what it would be for you. But but if you
had to be critical, it'd be how.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They didn't trade Castillo Cerner because they screwed up the
pitching rotation cost us at least four or four wins.
Messing around playing these silly games with the piggyback and
the six man rotation. Now we're kind of hearing people saying, yeah,
that was really hard and that was not a good idea.
I said it a long time ago. That's not a
good idea at all. You got five premium starters and
Luis Castillo. You had two directions you could have gone.
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You could have put Bryce Miller in there and let
him be Matt Brash. They didn't want to do that,
and let Castillo be the five starter and keep them
going so you could trade him, or you had to
move Cassio to the pen. The in between notion of
doing this was ridiculous and four losses for sure or
four wins to be had, and then we don't know
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how it's affected the five starters that should have been
pitching on turn. So they clearly held out to get
what they got, which is a huge win for management.
They love it, you know, they get the money goes away,
which is their favorite thing. I don't think that money
gets gets spent immediately. And it'll be interesting to see
if they put that money to work in getting free
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agents in the winner or what they do, or they
save up for a rainy day to try to sign
a picture, or what they're gonna do. I don't know,
but I don't really have a problem beyond that. I
think it would have been nice to get a real
bona fide third basement that can hit. But Taylor ward
Is he's a pretty good player, so I think now
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the interesting thing is is that you're going to get
Brendan Donovan back on your team, right, and he's a player.
The question is where's he going to play. It's gonna
be just this crazy musical chairs of Donovan all over
the place and Randy the DH, and Randy and left
and Warden left and Warden right, who's the DH and
who's the third and where's JP? And you know, it's
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going to be really interesting to see how they kind
of cobble this all together to make it work and
make them the best team they can possibly be. But
we know that Andy's bat and mean something, and the
question will be as mercurial as Randy is. Will they
accept being a d H a part of the time
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right because the tech the club will play better with
him not in the field, But they need his bath,
So you know, that's how I see it. I don't
see really any of the problems with what they had
to do. There's not a lot of openings on the team.
You've got players that are in positions that are being paid.
They have expectations that you're not going to replace. Right, Sure,
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you know, uh, cal Rawley's gonna gotta do better. Rodriguez
has got to do better. Naylor has got to do better.
Now what I'm seeing with Naylor, Naylor's got a bad
risk that looks obvious to me. He's he's just he's
like inside out Tennis, backhands the left field. That's what
he's gonna do. He's gonna keep his average up, He's
gonna put it in play because something's not right. Rodriguez
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hopefully is gonna come out of whatever the haze that
he has from the post to concussion issues, and Raleigh's
gonna swing big and maybe he's getting his timing right
and maybe the confidence will bump up a little bit.
But he's a slugger, he's not He's not going to
be a pure hitter. Could they have gone out and
tried to get a Luisa Rise or somebody like that,
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you know, that would have been interesting, but no really
place to put him. Yeah, I think I think they
did it okay, but they didn't do anything to really
bolster their offense. They're depending on the guys they have
here and for Donovan to appear and do well, and
for the guys here to do a little bit better
and uh you know, do Mingus helps him? Uh Hugh
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in the bullpen? Right, the bizarre needs to get get
a little bit of rest and get the ball down,
So he needs to he's better suited for a couple
inning stints in the middle of the game as opposed
to trying to make him the right handed setup guy
that's not really who he is. And hopefully Brash comes back.
You get Brashed back, you know, and if he's healthy,
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you've got the guy out there you need. But they
have to be you know, wait a few weeks for that,
and hopefully the club can can make a little bit
of progress now in the interim.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I think the only question would be would they
have been better off just simply moving Castillo to the
bullpen to begin with and having him out there instead
of Domingas. We'll see, time will tell. If Dimingas gets
the job done, then you can say, hey, we got
the we got the relief help we needed, and we
save money on Castillo's contract.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right, So we'll see about that. But I'm with you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, I'm with you on the piggyback six man thing,
and I totally agree with you that the negative, I
think in the end showed itself with these guys not
being in a routine getting jacked around. You know, one
day you're doing a piggyback, one day you're not doing it.
One day it's a five man, one day it's a
six man. So I totally agree on that. But I
want to ask you, Bill, because I want to make
sure we get this in before you go. There's been
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a lot of criticism in the last maybe couple of
days of the Dodgers. You know, people say they're they're
ruining baseball. They gave up real nothing from their farm
system for Tarik Skuball. I mean, I kind of more
wonder what the hell the Tigers were doing. For God's sakes,
is that the that the best they could do is
that deal they got from the Dodgers. But for those
that are critical of the Dodgers organization, rich get richer,
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they're ruining the game, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What do you say to that crowd?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, they do have bigger revenue, streams. There's no question
than some teams, and there's a disparity there across Baseball,
and Baseball is unwilling to uh sort of address the
uh the imbalance, right, and that's going to be a
big argument come winter time. But I don't fault the
Dodgers for uh, you know, developing talent and then not
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worried about having to make them, you know, be their future.
If there's a chance for them to use those guys
to go get somebody, they will, and they'll go on
the free agent market and go buy something else. Mm hm.
They're they're They're a wealthy team in a big market
with lots of revenue streams for sure. For sure, they've
got more than most and more than any of it
an maybe the Mets, but there's lots of rich people
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in the game that aren't that they don't have the
same attitude. Okay, so they aren't the only rich owners.
So I mean it's like, what's the incentive, that's the question.
Winning isn't enough of an incentive? I'm not sure, but yeah,
I mean I don't fault them. I think that it's
a two month rental because s Google is going to
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be a free agent. So if you're the Brewers and
you go get him for two months, maybe they couldn't
offer what they felt was worth the two months because
they're not going to resign him. He's too expensive for
the Brewers and for a lot of clubs he's too expensive. Well,
the Dodgers can get him for two months, and he
got They got the return for what a two month
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player can give you, right, and they took the rest
of his salary, and they'll they'll sign into a zillion
dollar contract sometime in the offseason probably. I mean, that's
how that goes. I mean, if you don't like it,
it's just sort of like, you know, the the Darth
Vader of baseball used to be the Yankees. Now it's
now it's the Dodgers. So you can hate on them,
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and you know, you can kind of hope that they've
the best laid plans of mice and men. Doesn't work
out right and Dave Roberts never looks up from his
from his cue card, and they lose because they miss
something if something doesn't go right. I don't hate the Dodgers.
I was a Dodger at one moment. I like some
of their players, but I don't wish wish great things
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to happen to them. I want to see the Milwaukee
Brewers make it and see that good ham and Egg
baseball with base stealing and and risk and balls in
play and and just a wonderful combination of old style baseball. Yeah,
that's who I want to see when if you're going
to ask me what I would like, Yeah, I hope
they can top them and maybe baseball goes wait a minute,
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it can be done, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That style of play. I mean, we watch a slugging
or nothing pitch win at the margin game that we
have here. And if you were able to watch the
Brewers on a daily basis, you'd fall in love with them.
And they got the big kid with the monster arm. Sure,
but they play a really cool style play.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Bill Krueger, great stuff, Love it man. Appreciate you being
on with us. It's always fun to recap trade deadline
day again. I know a lot of Mariner fans are
hoping for more, as I am. Every single deadline. I'm
not sure if there was much out there to go
out and get. There was a story that the Padres
were asking for Kat Anderson and a Mason Miller deal.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And you know me, I'm normally one.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
To say, hey, prospects, get rid of him, grow more,
go to your prospect tree in your backyard. If you're
Jerry Depoto and plucked more fruits off the tree. That's
a deal that I would not have made. And I'm
glad the Mariners did not make it. How about you.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, he's the future left hander in the rotation that
they don't have. They got five guys that look the same.
It'd be great if he was able to There's no
spot for him now. But he's he's going to be good.
He's going to be a solid, if not great, uh
picture for the Mariners for years to come. And you know,
Miller is is lightning in a bottle, But Monos is
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pretty good. That's the problem, isn't that right? It's not
you know, we needed somebody to replace Brash and we
needed to not be short for two months in the bullpen, right.
I mean, Castillo's fine, get traded. I'd rather have the
Mingus in the bullpen, not Castile. I just want to
Castile there.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Right until then?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yep, great Billy, you're the man, great stuff, and we
will talk in a week appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But okay, no problem, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
All right, Bill Krueger with us. We've got to break.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I want to get to weigh in here on the
Tarrek Schouble thing a little bit. Next segment, you know
Dodgers are ruining baseball? How dare they evil? Empire?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
All that? Next ninety three to three kJ R f M.
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Speaker 2 (18:17):
All right, Saftian Dick with no Deck Jackson's out as well.
It's Hugh Mellan. It's Travis Deogermoger joining us today as
we continue live from Seawawk Training Camp. Grey's able coming
up in the six pm hour. We'll get Chuck Powell's
response as well. At all the trades here the Marriagews
have made, I think it's important to update people, don't
you what the Mariners did at the deadline. A lot
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of people have lives, have jobs, tuning in and didn't
know what the MS did at the deadline. So just
to recap, you know, Luis Castillo sent to the White
Sox yesterday for a package including veteran reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez,
and then today they sent reliever Alex Hoppy in two
minor league pitchers named Brock Moore and Harrison Kreiling to
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the Orioles for Taylor, who would have the number one
on base percentage on the Mariners at three eighty three.
He leads the league and walks and played appearances. He
gets on base. A Ton doesn't drive in a lot
of runs. He's not having the year he had a
year ago with the Angels when he had thirty six
bombs at one hundred and three ribies, but does get
on base. So if you can put him in front
of a maybe I don't know, refueled Josh Naylor, cal Roley,
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maybe Julio Rodriguez, who knows, and get the guy home,
you could maybe find yourself scoring some more runs if
you can take advantage of this guy getting on base.
But I wanted to ask a Hugh before we get
the fun with audio. Next segment about the trek scuoball
deal right, Because we had Bill Krueger on last segment
and we asked him about this idea. The Dodgers are
ruining baseball, the evil Empire? How can they be controlled?
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This is ridiculous? How could he go to la And
I'm looking at what the Dodgers gave up for Trek Scuble.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I mean it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They gave up their number five, their number seven, their
number seventeen prospect to the Tigers for two months of
Terrek's Scooble. I mean, hell, if you want to come
to me yesterday and said you can have Trek Scuoble
for two months and maybe move a a George Kirby
or an Emerson Hancock to the bullpen, probably Hancock for
Michael Arroyo, Luke Stevenson and Lucas Kelly, I'd say, where
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do I sign for two months of that guy?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Are you kidding me? So? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, my my issue, I guess is twofold. How
they hell did the Dodgers end up with him? And
this is the best the Tigers could do for Trek Scoople?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
You kidd me?
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Really well? There's so much to discuss. I would say,
first of all, I don't blame the Dodgers whatsoever, anymore
than I blamed giraffes for getting the choicest leaves. They
do so because they can. And if you if you
want to even out so that all the animals at
the zoo eat the same leaves, then cut the trees
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so that they draft doesn't have that advantage. And look,
their money is a part of this. With the Dodgers.
They can sustain more losses because they can buy more
free agents. They can sign guy, you know, like they
can bring him in, get him exposed to their lockers.
So we can't just say that money's not a part
of that. And if you just look, I mean, I
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think this is tied to the CBA and the likely
work stoppage. And as a guy who was a player
rep in the NFL beginning my second year, I testified
on behalf of the rams in Washington, d C. About
the state of resident readiness during the strike that was
an eighty seven and then every single year thereafter. So
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I was right there involved when there was a free
agency acquired by the NFL and we acceeded to a
salary cap. Now let me just throw a couple numbers
at you at that time. If you go back like
nineteen ninety we're looking at the Major League Baseball players,
they had fifty seven percent of the revenue. NFL was
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right around forty percent. And then the year before there
was NFL free agency nineteen ninety three, which is also
the year before the strike, So this is a good
year to compare. The revenues for the NFL was were
one point eight seven billion for Major League Baseball one
point eight six billion. They're only separated by ten million
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since then, when the NFL has acceded to a salary
cap and a salary floor, that's vital and all of
the stability that the NFL has gone from from under
two billion to over twenty four billion, while Major League
Baseball has is right around twelve a little over twelve billion.
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That the NFL has gone thirteen x where major League
Baseball has gone about six and a half x. Okay,
so NFL has just lapped now, so the pie has
grown the NFL players. This is an important note. The
NFL player are guaranteed forty eight point eight percent of
the pie. So you say, what's our percentage of the pie,
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and how much is it growing. Well, I just told
you how much it's growing. Now what is the pie?
I told you that baseball players at fifty seven percent,
they're down to forty five point six percent, and they
were in twenty fifteen they were down at a thirty
eight point six percent.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Because there's no regulation.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And so here these baseball players, they're listening to people
like Jackass Scott Boris who comes on your radio show
and says it says that the NFL has it wrong.
And because why Because Scott Boris has seventy six and
a half percent of his clients are in the top
twenty percent of their position, sixty two percent of in
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the top fifteen percent.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
He is worried only.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
About the Wan Sotos and the Max Serzers and the
Garrett Coles and the Trek Schoobles. That's another one of
his clients. Right, That is not what's best for baseball.
What is best for baseball is that they get under
a salary cap with a floor. Because right now, a
third of the teams, third of the teams are just
checking out. They're giving let me get my lecture tasks.
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Their fans know that they that they're not trying, and
so what does that do to the product? Well, I
just told you how baseball is lapping excuse me, being
lapped by the NFL, and I guarantee you that the
construct of that is vital. Just a couple more things.
If you take since nineteen ninety eight, that's when both
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NFL and MLB went to thirty teams, you have in
the World Series champion is in the top ten in
scoring on twenty out of twenty eight, where the Super
Bowl champion is only ten out of twenty eight. If
you do an Excel correlation score, you want to do
it last ten years, you want to do it since
nineteen ninety eight, they're all going to be about the same.
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Major League Baseball has a correlation of score basically winning
to how much you're spending. Of FI fifty, the National
Football League has zero point zero five zero. That's the
difference between fifty and five to fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So every fan.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Intuitively knows that they don't know that number I just cited.
But I just put a number to what you already know.
You know the correlation between spending and winning. And last
year the Dodgers in twenty two, Well this year we'll go.
This year the Dodgers are spending three hundred ninety six
million and the Marlins are seventy seven min that's a
four eleven percent advance. In the NFL, where there's a
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cap and a floor, the difference between the top team
is thirty one million, and excuse me, two seventy nine
versus two forty eight, that's thirty one minute. That's a
twelve percent advance. So you go Baseball as a four
hund eleven percent advantage up between the top team and
the lowest team, and football only has twelve percent. All
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of these components that are structures, and by the way,
if there were to have been the UH, the UH
franchise tag, which which is a vital part of the
structure as well, so John always stays at Denver Bronco,
Derek Scooba would still be a Tiger. So in all
of these things, the scaffolding that hold these sports, I
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would just argue these baseball players they are they are
are getting their ass handed to them. They've got a
smaller pie than they should have, and they're getting less
and less a percentage of that pie. The NFL players
get a higher, a bigger percentage of the pie, and
the pie pie has more than doubled what the baseball
pie has grown since the NFL implemented free agency with
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a salary cap with a salary floor, and you're gonna
get these absurdities that demoralize everybody who who loves baseball
to see the Dodgers have these kind of advantages. They've
got to get a hold of this. There's a structural
way to do it. It's on the table, and the
players just have to acceed to it and stop listening
to Scott Boris.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, I think it's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You first of all, well done, and then second of all,
I think the Mets are actually technically spending more than
the Dodgers are this season, but it's obviously not showing
because the mas.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Terrimenty six with the Dodgers number one. But you know,
different sources. It's not going to change by it's gonna
change it by fractions of a point. It's not right
quibbling about.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I'm looking at spot track and I see the
Mets higher, But anyway, point is well taken. Right that
you've got you got the haves and the have nots
in baseball, there's no doubt about that. Just steal an
old Scott Woodward line man. But I do think that
baseball is in need of a salary floor, There's no
question about that. I think they kind of outed themselves
when they came out about a month and a half
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ago with this collective bargaining offer with a salary floor,
and there were like eight teams that were spending below
that already, you know. I mean, if you can spend
that in a new agreement, then why aren't you spending
it right now? I mean Major League Baseball season, yes,
needs to make sure that these guys are serious about
trying to win championships. And when you're the Guardians, and
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when you're the Marlins and the Cardinals and the A's
and the Nationals and even in some ways the White
Sox that were getting kind of lucky this year, and
you're spending under one hundred million dollars, that is an
absolute joke. But I think there's I think there's two
stories here here what what will this mean for Baseball's
salary cap? What what will it mean down the road
for negotiations? And then number two, how the hell did
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the Dodgers end up getting Trek Schooble for the slap
they gave the Tigers. So I mean, I can't wait
to hear.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Real quick, real quick, Dave. I would just say this,
if baseball was doing it better than football, I would agree.
In fact, when I was a player, REP I used
to routinely say, Hey, Baseball's got a better union than us.
They're more united. Uh, you know, they had free agency,
we didn't. They had a high, much higher percentage of
the revenues than us. I I I readily conceded that
(28:58):
baseball had a superior union to us. Now fast forward
thirty years later, the decisions we made there, we are
dunking on baseball. In fact, the World Series, their premiere
event is in this decade, is out drawn by our
selection show. The NFL Draft has more viewers in the
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first round than the World Series. And then I cited
you all the revenue discrepancies. How base of football is
again just lapping baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well by the way, by the way, just to wrap
this up, because we gotta get a break, Okay. Whatever
team was trading for trek skuobl was taken on ten
point six million dollars in salary the rest of the year.
Now I can understand not wanting to give up like
your number one, number two, number three, number four prospects
for a guy that's there for two months because you
still think, hey, the odds of us winning. But if
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you're a team that is in the race, by the way,
like if you're the Yankees, if you're the Red Sox,
if you're the Guardians, if you're the Houston Astros, ten
point six million dollars added your payroll and the prospects
that it took to get him should not have been
a big enough reason for every other team in contention
to say no to a Tearic Scuoble trade, and the.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
One quick the fact that it apparently was is insane. Yes,
but remember this. The gap between the highest payroll in
the lowest payroll in the NFL is thirty one million.
The gap between the highest and lowest in baseball is
thirty million. It's it's basically, it's ten times the gap.
So the structure of baseball has simply got to change him.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
By the way star lingers start, you're gonna make more.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Revenue and you're gonna get a higher percentage it What
is not to like unless you're just gonna if one sodo,
it might be worse Okay, you're gonna you're gonna tear
down baseball for the one Sodas.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
Of the world.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah yeah, all right, we gotta get to a break
a little full with audio, which will include, by the way,
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Dick Fane and Jackson Felts. The phenomenal work today, Fellas.
I really appreciate the job well done so far. Gray's
Abel will join us, by the way, in the next
hour Chuck Powell as well with his thoughts on the
Mariner deadline deals. Right now, a little fun with audio slash.
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Hey did you hear that?
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Hey? Hu Millan, did you happen to hear that?
Speaker 5 (32:01):
What's that?
Speaker 8 (32:01):
Dick?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
So here's the deal we are gonna work in. By
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of the national anthem that you have ever heard in
your life.
Speaker 3 (32:31):
And I want you to listen to the whole freaking thing.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
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the La Queens and the New York Heights on Saturday,
Martha Reeves remember her motown legend. Eighty five years old,
Martha and the Vandellas back in the day, gave us,
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Speaker 3 (33:00):
Have a listen.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
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Speaker 3 (33:10):
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Speaker 1 (33:16):
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Speaker 3 (33:22):
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Speaker 5 (33:30):
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Speaker 3 (33:47):
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Speaker 5 (33:55):
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Speaker 9 (34:01):
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
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Speaker 5 (34:12):
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Speaker 3 (34:21):
You know what I was gonna do you.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
I was gonna cut it off about thirty seconds sing o,
But I thought that'd be disrespectful, because when somebody is
singing the anthem, you gotta let him finish the anthem.
Speaker 3 (34:31):
But is that not the worst thing you've ever heard, Hugh?
Somebody had to allow them to sing that song.
Speaker 2 (34:38):
Somebody had to have either said, okay, we trust you,
you don't need to, you know, sing it for us.
We we think you'll do a great job. Or they
heard it and said yes to that. Oh my god,
they couldn't have They couldn't have heard it. I think
they just booked it.
Speaker 5 (34:54):
That sounded like your beagles got their tails caught in
a sliding glass door. That's exactly how Dudley and whatever
winning it would would be wailing.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Dj oh god.
Speaker 5 (35:06):
Roseanne bar was worse because she was disrespectful. I think
I think this one was obvious, but I'm gonna assume
she was trying.
Speaker 3 (35:14):
She just I hope so right. That was By the way, God, we.
Speaker 5 (35:20):
Might be under a class action lawsuit. All the listeners
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in life.
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Speaker 3 (35:37):
All right, hey here did you happen to hear that?
What's that?
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Dick?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Oh god?
Speaker 2 (35:42):
On the Meta Times Show today, Scott Van Pelt talked
about the NFC Championship game and how he thought the
Rams were the best team in the NFL last year.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I thought the Rams were the best team in the
NFL last year. I said it over and over and
over again. That game against Seattle in the NFC title
Game was played in Seattle, not Los Angeles, in part
because Charbonay picks up a ball in the end zone
and hands it to an official, and after a lengthy
commercial break, two points are awarded to Seattle. Perhaps correctly.
(36:13):
All credit to Seattle for coming back in that game,
for having big balls in overtime and winning. But I
felt like Los Angeles was better that Thursday night. I
thought they were gonna win that game in Seattle. They didn't.
The Seahawks are the Rainy champs, and they deserve and
earned every bit of it. But I was stubborn then
and I'm stubborn now.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He's obviously on the Rams wagon this year, and part
of his reasoning is that he thought the Rams were
a better team last year, and they've gone out and
they've gotten Miles Garrett and the Seahawks have gone out
and lost players like Kenny Walker. So for someone to
say that, even though the Hawks won two out of
three and beat them in the NFC Championship, that hey,
I thought they're like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I can I can debate.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I could hear somebody saying the Rams were more talented
than the Seahawks, But I thought the way that you
judged what team was better by how many games they
win against each other.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's not how you do it.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Uh yeah, I mean I don't think it's a terrible
take by him. I mean I had my dukes up.
I'm like, all right, s VP, I'm ready to pounce.
But I think his his take was reasonable. I you know,
particularly now, the structure of it is that the NFC
Championship game should have been in LA because of the
(37:31):
the wonky two point conversion, which was come on, If
we can't concede that that was fluky, then we're just
not being remotely objective.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
But what about all the other players that let me
take advantage of it?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, but there's no there's no guarantee. I mean, the
LA stadium is not the most formidable. I mean, that's
not like going to play in Green Bay or something. Right,
So Seattle could have gone down and won that game.
And you know what I think in the NFC Championship game,
I think Seattle soda versatility that Hey, you think we're
(38:09):
just a defensive team. How about this? That quarterback is
legit because when Matthew Stafford is just throwing darts everywhere,
then and it's needed. Guess what Seattle has a quarterback
that can step up and match him. He can lay
dormant when he's not needed, but when he's needed, just
(38:29):
call him up and he will deliver. And he was
at three hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns, no picks,
near perfection in the NFC Championship games. I don't think
it's a I don't think it's a horrible take. Put
it this way, there's a lot worse takes that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
If you're gonna tell me that the Rams were the
better football team, that I'll tell you that Mike McDonald's
the better coach because that means he beat Sean McVay
with the worst product twice.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I wouldn't change.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I would not trade Mike McDonald for Sean McVay. They're
similar in a four years separate.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Him, right trade? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All right, Uh, let's do one more here before the break. Hey, Hugh,
did you happen to hear that.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
What's that dick?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Let's go to number four, Travis, you know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
By the way, you do know that if when Fane's
not here and they play that what's that dick?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Because that goes.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
From being a a noun, right, a proper noun to
Dick Fane to be directed at you. You do, you
got that right?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I'm just look, we just thought we play it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No matter who's sitting there, whether it's you or whether
it's Dick, or whether it's Jackson, or whether it's the yogre,
it's always going to be a part of the show.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
On the Pat McAfee Show this morning, Aaron Rodgers was
asked about his mindset this offseason and proceeded to go
off on Anthony Fauci and criticized ESPN for not covering
a certain member of the media who votes on the
NFL MVP and the Coach of the Year named Diana Russini.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Check it out.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
Can you tell us about the mindset of coming into
your last season? Like that's a real thing, it feels like,
because is everything better? Is everything funner? Is everything more awesome?
Like how do you kind of view this year verse
maybe the years of the past?
Speaker 8 (40:17):
I'm gonna plead the fifth Okay, okay, okay, like that
absolute coward tony absolutelary, Are you kidding me? Yeah, you
got a pardon and you're and you pleaded over a
hundred times.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yea at the White House? What are you scared of? Tony?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
I thought you were the science Yeah yeah, I thought
you or I am science and you get up there
and you can't answer a question.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, what do we doing?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
And how much time did the network spend of that?
Speaker 8 (40:46):
How much time did they spend on my responses every
week on my vaccination statut An Taylor at Travis's wedding?
Did they do even a minute? Did they do even
a minute on Tony Fauci? No, I don't think I've
forgot I bet they didn't. But on that now and
there was another scandalous offseason too, involved in a voter
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for MVP for Coach of the Year. How much time
do you did your network spand where's it did your
network spend on that network?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You know what I love is that McAfee's trying to
desperately move on and Rogers just keeps pulling him back
in on his own network. Man, how about that Aaron
Rodgers does not give a damn.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Hey, you know what, I tipped my hat to Aaron
Rodgers there because I think that needed to be said
about Fauci. I mean, you go back and you think
of how that dominated the sports world. Uh, there was
definitely a leaning in all of that, and uh, you know,
I think he was the u at the brunt of
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much of it within the sports world, and so I
think he's got a right to to fight back a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Well, ESPN makes a habit of like to share their
opinions on a variety of topics, and when you do that,
you're gonna have a lot of people that will disagree
and want to go the opposite way. So you definitely
invite some of that if you're ESPN, no doubt. All Right,
we're gonna break Gray's Abel. You ready for this? Seahawk
left guard Stud gonna join us next
Now from the Star Renolds Sports to Jordan ninety three
point three KJRFM sports headlines.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
All right, we're back at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
Headlines are brought to by our friends at Frost Brood Coors.
Liked as cold as the Rockies. Mariners making a couple
of deadline deals. You know about the Luis Castile deal
to the White Sox over the weekend that brought a
package including reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez. Well, today the Mariners
send reliever Alex Happy and two minor leaguers, Brock Moore
(00:29):
and Harrison Criling, both pitchers both outside the top thirty
on the MLB pipeline list. So no big prospects given
up for Taylor Ward, left fielder, third baseman DH from
Baltimore thirty six home runs a year ago with the Angels,
but his power numbers way down this year. He does, though,
by the way, have the number one on base percentage
(00:50):
of the Mariners right now at three point eighty three.
Elsewhere in baseball, Orioles sending catcher Atlee Rushman to Boston.
The Astros get outfielder Dartin Volsterer Varsha excuse me from
Toronto and former Mariner Robbie Ray goes from San Francisco
to San Diego. And speaking of San Francisco, the Yankees
working the phones at the last second, grabbing outfielder Elliott
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Ramos from the San Francisco Giants.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Let's get to Bill Krueger right now.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:38):
All right, Safian Dick with no Dick.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
He's in for Dick today, joining us right now on
the radio program. Great day to have him on. With
the deadline coming and going a couple hours ago, a
Mariner is wrapping up business with the deal with the
White Sox, to deal with the Baltimore Orioles, and I
love that we have this guy on here on a
Monday after the deadline to talk about all of it.
Courtesy of the Occidental Hall, Okay, well, I'm hearing one
(02:01):
second from my producer, so I guess that means Bill's
not ready. But courtesy of the Occidental Hall, the Queen,
Anne Beer Hall, the mass be Hall, and Kirklan, we're
gonna have Bill Krueger join us in a second. And Hugh,
I think we got to get Bill's take as well
on the Tarrek Scuba deal right to the Dodgers. The
Tigers sending Tarrek scuball to the LA Dodgers and really
(02:23):
not giving up a lot together them. I don't think
they gave up one of their top four prospects, so
we'll talk about that as well.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
But we got him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
He's ready here. He is our crafty left hander, Bill Krueger. Billy,
how are you, man? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (02:34):
I'm good, I'm good. Exciting day for the true baseball
fan for sure, across the across the whole league, and
across the country. So yeah, lots of names moving around.
I'm it's a bit of a blur for me at
this point.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, no doubt, Well, it is exciting.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
It also sometimes leaves marin or fans wanting a bit more,
as I know a lot of them do, right, now,
after the trade deadline deals the Mariners made, so let's
just talk about that. Luis Castillo and his contract are
gone to the White Sox for a package including a
veteran reliever by the name of Sir Anthony Dominguez. He
becomes the first Mariner reliever ever to make ten million
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dollars in a season.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And then you get.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Taylor Ward from Baltimore for Alex Hapi in two minor
league pitchers. So you take the floor of your thoughts
on the two trades that Jerry made in the last
couple of days.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Well, I think the Castillo trade is just an absolute
yachtzi for the Mariners. They found someone that would take
Castillo's contract, which is just hard to imagine they were
able to pull that off.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I think that's the biggest story of the whole deadline
for the Mariners is that they were able to move
off Castillo's money so they don't own the money the
rest of this year or next year. They got a
reliever that's a little that needs a little tweaking, guy
that's had a lot of success, got a little bit
of control problem, but he's got big stuff and he
doesn't have to close for the Mariners. He can set
up or he can pitch in the middle until they
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figure out maybe what makes him tick, because the Mariners
are very good at that. He's been a little scattery
walk numbers are up, has a tendency to come into
big situations and you know, throw a while pitch and
allow runners to move around. But this guy's upper nineties
with a really hard slider, a dark one. This is
a bonafide one two guy that gets right hand hitters out.
(04:26):
So I think there's a lot of hope there. This
is a you know, a high seating type pitcher with experience,
so I think that's good. He's not the flashy name
on the market, and he hasn't been pitching great of late.
If you went and asked the people in Chicago, they'd say,
oh god, we can't can't trust him. He's he's all
over the place. Well, maybe he gets recast in a
(04:47):
different role, And like I said, the Mariners are pretty
good at figuring out what what makes him tick. So
I like that they get a catching prospect that can
probably use to you know, in another d perhaps who
knows people covered catching. It's hard to find and Nolan
Jones is an extra outfielder that I don't know what's
(05:08):
gonna happen with him. He had a couple a year
good year a few years ago with Colorado, but hits
left hand, and we got we're kind of long suited
on left hand hitt and outfielders, and then they get
Taylor Ward. So Taylor Ward is a bonafide big league
corner outfielder. Right. He had a couple of big years
with the Angels where he hit the ball all the ballpark,
and then this year in Baltimore he kind of flipped
(05:29):
the script a little bit. He only had seven homers,
but he got on base at a three eighty clip
hit about two fifty. He's a good player. He's gonna
hit better against left handed pitching. He can play. It's
not like he plays once in a blue moon. He
can play. So it'll be interesting to see how they
kind of put this whole thing together once Brendan Donovan's
healthy and where exactly is he going to play? They
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weren't able to do anything at third base. That would
have been the best place to get somebody, but I
think that was a tough mark. They probably just could
not find anybody there. A right hand hitting third basement
just wasn't you know, to be had. I guess so,
but I think they did pretty well. You know, the
idea that you were gonna use George Kirby or Emerson
(06:13):
Hancock or Brandy a Rose arena to this threading of
the needle where you're a buyer and you're a seller. Well,
like I've said before, Dave, you're either on the buy
side of the cell side. If you're buying, you're giving
up prospects, you're taking a veteran player, or you're going
the other way. That's what it is. It's a or B.
And they were trying to do the C move and uh,
(06:35):
you know Kirby a Handcock move, that's a that's an
off season move. You could think about it. If you
want Kirby or Handcock and you're in contention, you're gonna
hand us. You're gonna hand the Mariners an everyday guy
that's in your lineup and hitting's at a premium. It's
not gonna happen, not gonna happen. It's just a it's fluff.
It's it's blust, it's bluster. It's nothing. Not that they
that they there wasn't somebody calling about them. But you
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know what, what they were going to give the Manners
in return would have been guys for the future, right,
And that's what you do when you're a seller and
the Mariners are still in this thing. The numbers in
the standings tell us that, and they've made a pretty
strong statement to Mariner fans to say we are in
it to start the season. So they're in it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
They are in it, and Bill Krueger with us. So Bill,
you you make the the argument. You make the points
for why you like the deal. You're you sound a
little bit tempered in your enthusiasm, but you like the deal.
Now flip your cap around and make just a logical
argument against like like saying, hey, I don't like the
(07:45):
deal for blank reasons.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (07:48):
I mean, you got Domingus is now a right hander
in a right handed loaded staff. I don't know what
what it would be for you. But but if you
had to be critical, it'd be how.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
They didn't trade Castillo Cerner because they screwed up the
pitching rotation cost us at least four or four wins.
Messing around playing these silly games with the piggyback and
the six man rotation. Now we're kind of hearing people saying, yeah,
that was really hard and that was not a good idea.
I said it a long time ago. That's not a
good idea at all. You got five premium starters and
Luis Castillo. You had two directions you could have gone.
(08:23):
You could have put Bryce Miller in there and let
him be Matt Brash. They didn't want to do that,
and let Castillo be the five starter and keep them
going so you could trade him, or you had to
move Cassio to the pen. The in between notion of
doing this was ridiculous and four losses for sure or
four wins to be had, and then we don't know
(08:43):
how it's affected the five starters that should have been
pitching on turn. So they clearly held out to get
what they got, which is a huge win for management.
They love it, you know, they get the money goes away,
which is their favorite thing. I don't think that money
gets gets spent immediately. And it'll be interesting to see
if they put that money to work in getting free
(09:05):
agents in the winner or what they do, or they
save up for a rainy day to try to sign
a picture, or what they're gonna do. I don't know,
but I don't really have a problem beyond that. I
think it would have been nice to get a real
bona fide third basement that can hit. But Taylor ward
Is he's a pretty good player, so I think now
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the interesting thing is is that you're going to get
Brendan Donovan back on your team, right, and he's a player.
The question is where's he going to play. It's gonna
be just this crazy musical chairs of Donovan all over
the place and Randy the DH, and Randy and left
and Warden left and Warden right, who's the DH and
who's the third and where's JP? And you know, it's
(09:48):
going to be really interesting to see how they kind
of cobble this all together to make it work and
make them the best team they can possibly be. But
we know that Andy's bat and mean something, and the
question will be as mercurial as Randy is. Will they
accept being a d H a part of the time
(10:08):
right because the tech the club will play better with
him not in the field, But they need his bath,
So you know, that's how I see it. I don't
see really any of the problems with what they had
to do. There's not a lot of openings on the team.
You've got players that are in positions that are being paid.
They have expectations that you're not going to replace. Right, Sure,
(10:30):
you know, uh, cal Rawley's gonna gotta do better. Rodriguez
has got to do better. Naylor has got to do better.
Now what I'm seeing with Naylor, Naylor's got a bad
risk that looks obvious to me. He's he's just he's
like inside out Tennis, backhands the left field. That's what
he's gonna do. He's gonna keep his average up, He's
gonna put it in play because something's not right. Rodriguez
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hopefully is gonna come out of whatever the haze that
he has from the post to concussion issues, and Raleigh's
gonna swing big and maybe he's getting his timing right
and maybe the confidence will bump up a little bit.
But he's a slugger, he's not He's not going to
be a pure hitter. Could they have gone out and
tried to get a Luisa Rise or somebody like that,
(11:12):
you know, that would have been interesting, but no really
place to put him. Yeah, I think I think they
did it okay, but they didn't do anything to really
bolster their offense. They're depending on the guys they have
here and for Donovan to appear and do well, and
for the guys here to do a little bit better
and uh you know, do Mingus helps him? Uh Hugh
(11:34):
in the bullpen? Right, the bizarre needs to get get
a little bit of rest and get the ball down,
So he needs to he's better suited for a couple
inning stints in the middle of the game as opposed
to trying to make him the right handed setup guy
that's not really who he is. And hopefully Brash comes back.
You get Brashed back, you know, and if he's healthy,
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you've got the guy out there you need. But they
have to be you know, wait a few weeks for that,
and hopefully the club can can make a little bit
of progress now in the interim.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Yeah, I think the only question would be would they
have been better off just simply moving Castillo to the
bullpen to begin with and having him out there instead
of Domingas. We'll see, time will tell. If Dimingas gets
the job done, then you can say, hey, we got
the we got the relief help we needed, and we
save money on Castillo's contract.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
Right, So we'll see about that. But I'm with you, Bill.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
You know, I'm with you on the piggyback six man thing,
and I totally agree with you that the negative, I
think in the end showed itself with these guys not
being in a routine getting jacked around. You know, one
day you're doing a piggyback, one day you're not doing it.
One day it's a five man, one day it's a
six man. So I totally agree on that. But I
want to ask you, Bill, because I want to make
sure we get this in before you go. There's been
(12:51):
a lot of criticism in the last maybe couple of
days of the Dodgers. You know, people say they're they're
ruining baseball. They gave up real nothing from their farm
system for Tarik Skuball. I mean, I kind of more
wonder what the hell the Tigers were doing. For God's sakes,
is that the that the best they could do is
that deal they got from the Dodgers. But for those
that are critical of the Dodgers organization, rich get richer,
(13:15):
they're ruining the game, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
What do you say to that crowd?
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Well, they do have bigger revenue, streams. There's no question
than some teams, and there's a disparity there across Baseball,
and Baseball is unwilling to uh sort of address the
uh the imbalance, right, and that's going to be a
big argument come winter time. But I don't fault the
Dodgers for uh, you know, developing talent and then not
(13:41):
worried about having to make them, you know, be their future.
If there's a chance for them to use those guys
to go get somebody, they will, and they'll go on
the free agent market and go buy something else. Mm hm.
They're they're They're a wealthy team in a big market
with lots of revenue streams for sure. For sure, they've
got more than most and more than any of it
an maybe the Mets, but there's lots of rich people
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in the game that aren't that they don't have the
same attitude. Okay, so they aren't the only rich owners.
So I mean it's like, what's the incentive, that's the question.
Winning isn't enough of an incentive? I'm not sure, but yeah,
I mean I don't fault them. I think that it's
a two month rental because s Google is going to
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be a free agent. So if you're the Brewers and
you go get him for two months, maybe they couldn't
offer what they felt was worth the two months because
they're not going to resign him. He's too expensive for
the Brewers and for a lot of clubs he's too expensive. Well,
the Dodgers can get him for two months, and he
got They got the return for what a two month
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player can give you, right, and they took the rest
of his salary, and they'll they'll sign into a zillion
dollar contract sometime in the offseason probably. I mean, that's
how that goes. I mean, if you don't like it,
it's just sort of like, you know, the the Darth
Vader of baseball used to be the Yankees. Now it's
now it's the Dodgers. So you can hate on them,
(15:07):
and you know, you can kind of hope that they've
the best laid plans of mice and men. Doesn't work
out right and Dave Roberts never looks up from his
from his cue card, and they lose because they miss
something if something doesn't go right. I don't hate the Dodgers.
I was a Dodger at one moment. I like some
of their players, but I don't wish wish great things
(15:28):
to happen to them. I want to see the Milwaukee
Brewers make it and see that good ham and Egg
baseball with base stealing and and risk and balls in
play and and just a wonderful combination of old style baseball. Yeah,
that's who I want to see when if you're going
to ask me what I would like, Yeah, I hope
they can top them and maybe baseball goes wait a minute,
(15:48):
it can be done, you know.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
So yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (15:52):
That style of play. I mean, we watch a slugging
or nothing pitch win at the margin game that we
have here. And if you were able to watch the
Brewers on a daily basis, you'd fall in love with them.
And they got the big kid with the monster arm. Sure,
but they play a really cool style play.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Bill Krueger, great stuff, Love it man. Appreciate you being
on with us. It's always fun to recap trade deadline
day again. I know a lot of Mariner fans are
hoping for more, as I am. Every single deadline. I'm
not sure if there was much out there to go
out and get. There was a story that the Padres
were asking for Kat Anderson and a Mason Miller deal.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
And you know me, I'm normally one.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
To say, hey, prospects, get rid of him, grow more,
go to your prospect tree in your backyard. If you're
Jerry Depoto and plucked more fruits off the tree. That's
a deal that I would not have made. And I'm
glad the Mariners did not make it. How about you.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, he's the future left hander in the rotation that
they don't have. They got five guys that look the same.
It'd be great if he was able to There's no
spot for him now. But he's he's going to be good.
He's going to be a solid, if not great, uh
picture for the Mariners for years to come. And you know,
Miller is is lightning in a bottle, But Monos is
(17:15):
pretty good. That's the problem, isn't that right? It's not
you know, we needed somebody to replace Brash and we
needed to not be short for two months in the bullpen, right.
I mean, Castillo's fine, get traded. I'd rather have the
Mingus in the bullpen, not Castile. I just want to
Castile there.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Right until then?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Yep, great Billy, you're the man, great stuff, and we
will talk in a week appreciate this.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
But okay, no problem, thank you.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
All right, Bill Krueger with us. We've got to break.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I want to get to weigh in here on the
Tarrek Schouble thing a little bit. Next segment, you know
Dodgers are ruining baseball? How dare they evil? Empire?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
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Speaker 2 (18:17):
All right, Saftian Dick with no Deck Jackson's out as well.
It's Hugh Mellan. It's Travis Deogermoger joining us today as
we continue live from Seawawk Training Camp. Grey's able coming
up in the six pm hour. We'll get Chuck Powell's
response as well. At all the trades here the Marriagews
have made, I think it's important to update people, don't
you what the Mariners did at the deadline. A lot
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of people have lives, have jobs, tuning in and didn't
know what the MS did at the deadline. So just
to recap, you know, Luis Castillo sent to the White
Sox yesterday for a package including veteran reliever Sir Anthony Dominguez,
and then today they sent reliever Alex Hoppy in two
minor league pitchers named Brock Moore and Harrison Kreiling to
(18:58):
the Orioles for Taylor, who would have the number one
on base percentage on the Mariners at three eighty three.
He leads the league and walks and played appearances. He
gets on base. A Ton doesn't drive in a lot
of runs. He's not having the year he had a
year ago with the Angels when he had thirty six
bombs at one hundred and three ribies, but does get
on base. So if you can put him in front
of a maybe I don't know, refueled Josh Naylor, cal Roley,
(19:22):
maybe Julio Rodriguez, who knows, and get the guy home,
you could maybe find yourself scoring some more runs if
you can take advantage of this guy getting on base.
But I wanted to ask a Hugh before we get
the fun with audio. Next segment about the trek scuoball
deal right, Because we had Bill Krueger on last segment
and we asked him about this idea. The Dodgers are
ruining baseball, the evil Empire? How can they be controlled?
(19:46):
This is ridiculous? How could he go to la And
I'm looking at what the Dodgers gave up for Trek Scuble.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
I mean it's nothing.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
They gave up their number five, their number seven, their
number seventeen prospect to the Tigers for two months of
Terrek's Scooble. I mean, hell, if you want to come
to me yesterday and said you can have Trek Scuoble
for two months and maybe move a a George Kirby
or an Emerson Hancock to the bullpen, probably Hancock for
Michael Arroyo, Luke Stevenson and Lucas Kelly, I'd say, where
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do I sign for two months of that guy?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Are you kidding me? So? I don't know.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I mean, my my issue, I guess is twofold. How
they hell did the Dodgers end up with him? And
this is the best the Tigers could do for Trek Scoople?
Speaker 3 (20:34):
You kidd me?
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Really well? There's so much to discuss. I would say,
first of all, I don't blame the Dodgers whatsoever, anymore
than I blamed giraffes for getting the choicest leaves. They
do so because they can. And if you if you
want to even out so that all the animals at
the zoo eat the same leaves, then cut the trees
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so that they draft doesn't have that advantage. And look,
their money is a part of this. With the Dodgers.
They can sustain more losses because they can buy more
free agents. They can sign guy, you know, like they
can bring him in, get him exposed to their lockers.
So we can't just say that money's not a part
of that. And if you just look, I mean, I
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think this is tied to the CBA and the likely
work stoppage. And as a guy who was a player
rep in the NFL beginning my second year, I testified
on behalf of the rams in Washington, d C. About
the state of resident readiness during the strike that was
an eighty seven and then every single year thereafter. So
(21:42):
I was right there involved when there was a free
agency acquired by the NFL and we acceeded to a
salary cap. Now let me just throw a couple numbers
at you at that time. If you go back like
nineteen ninety we're looking at the Major League Baseball players,
they had fifty seven percent of the revenue. NFL was
(22:02):
right around forty percent. And then the year before there
was NFL free agency nineteen ninety three, which is also
the year before the strike, So this is a good
year to compare. The revenues for the NFL was were
one point eight seven billion for Major League Baseball one
point eight six billion. They're only separated by ten million
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since then, when the NFL has acceded to a salary
cap and a salary floor, that's vital and all of
the stability that the NFL has gone from from under
two billion to over twenty four billion, while Major League
Baseball has is right around twelve a little over twelve billion.
(22:44):
That the NFL has gone thirteen x where major League
Baseball has gone about six and a half x. Okay,
so NFL has just lapped now, so the pie has
grown the NFL players. This is an important note. The
NFL player are guaranteed forty eight point eight percent of
the pie. So you say, what's our percentage of the pie,
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and how much is it growing. Well, I just told
you how much it's growing. Now what is the pie?
I told you that baseball players at fifty seven percent,
they're down to forty five point six percent, and they
were in twenty fifteen they were down at a thirty
eight point six percent.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Because there's no regulation.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
And so here these baseball players, they're listening to people
like Jackass Scott Boris who comes on your radio show
and says it says that the NFL has it wrong.
And because why Because Scott Boris has seventy six and
a half percent of his clients are in the top
twenty percent of their position, sixty two percent of in
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the top fifteen percent.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
He is worried only.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
About the Wan Sotos and the Max Serzers and the
Garrett Coles and the Trek Schoobles. That's another one of
his clients. Right, That is not what's best for baseball.
What is best for baseball is that they get under
a salary cap with a floor. Because right now, a
third of the teams, third of the teams are just
checking out. They're giving let me get my lecture tasks.
(24:09):
Their fans know that they that they're not trying, and
so what does that do to the product? Well, I
just told you how baseball is lapping excuse me, being
lapped by the NFL, and I guarantee you that the
construct of that is vital. Just a couple more things.
If you take since nineteen ninety eight, that's when both
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NFL and MLB went to thirty teams, you have in
the World Series champion is in the top ten in
scoring on twenty out of twenty eight, where the Super
Bowl champion is only ten out of twenty eight. If
you do an Excel correlation score, you want to do
it last ten years, you want to do it since
nineteen ninety eight, they're all going to be about the same.
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Major League Baseball has a correlation of score basically winning
to how much you're spending. Of FI fifty, the National
Football League has zero point zero five zero. That's the
difference between fifty and five to fifty.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
So every fan.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
Intuitively knows that they don't know that number I just cited.
But I just put a number to what you already know.
You know the correlation between spending and winning. And last
year the Dodgers in twenty two, Well this year we'll go.
This year the Dodgers are spending three hundred ninety six
million and the Marlins are seventy seven min that's a
four eleven percent advance. In the NFL, where there's a
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cap and a floor, the difference between the top team
is thirty one million, and excuse me, two seventy nine
versus two forty eight, that's thirty one minute. That's a
twelve percent advance. So you go Baseball as a four
hund eleven percent advantage up between the top team and
the lowest team, and football only has twelve percent. All
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of these components that are structures, and by the way,
if there were to have been the UH, the UH
franchise tag, which which is a vital part of the
structure as well, so John always stays at Denver Bronco,
Derek Scooba would still be a Tiger. So in all
of these things, the scaffolding that hold these sports, I
(26:15):
would just argue these baseball players they are they are
are getting their ass handed to them. They've got a
smaller pie than they should have, and they're getting less
and less a percentage of that pie. The NFL players
get a higher, a bigger percentage of the pie, and
the pie pie has more than doubled what the baseball
pie has grown since the NFL implemented free agency with
(26:39):
a salary cap with a salary floor, and you're gonna
get these absurdities that demoralize everybody who who loves baseball
to see the Dodgers have these kind of advantages. They've
got to get a hold of this. There's a structural
way to do it. It's on the table, and the
players just have to acceed to it and stop listening
to Scott Boris.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Well, I think it's good stuff.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
You first of all, well done, and then second of all,
I think the Mets are actually technically spending more than
the Dodgers are this season, but it's obviously not showing
because the mas.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Terrimenty six with the Dodgers number one. But you know,
different sources. It's not going to change by it's gonna
change it by fractions of a point. It's not right
quibbling about.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Yeah, I'm looking at spot track and I see the
Mets higher, But anyway, point is well taken. Right that
you've got you got the haves and the have nots
in baseball, there's no doubt about that. Just steal an
old Scott Woodward line man. But I do think that
baseball is in need of a salary floor, There's no
question about that. I think they kind of outed themselves
when they came out about a month and a half
(27:44):
ago with this collective bargaining offer with a salary floor,
and there were like eight teams that were spending below
that already, you know. I mean, if you can spend
that in a new agreement, then why aren't you spending
it right now? I mean Major League Baseball season, yes,
needs to make sure that these guys are serious about
trying to win championships. And when you're the Guardians, and
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when you're the Marlins and the Cardinals and the A's
and the Nationals and even in some ways the White
Sox that were getting kind of lucky this year, and
you're spending under one hundred million dollars, that is an
absolute joke. But I think there's I think there's two
stories here here what what will this mean for Baseball's
salary cap? What what will it mean down the road
for negotiations? And then number two, how the hell did
(28:28):
the Dodgers end up getting Trek Schooble for the slap
they gave the Tigers. So I mean, I can't wait
to hear.
Speaker 5 (28:35):
Real quick, real quick, Dave. I would just say this,
if baseball was doing it better than football, I would agree.
In fact, when I was a player, REP I used
to routinely say, Hey, Baseball's got a better union than us.
They're more united. Uh, you know, they had free agency,
we didn't. They had a high, much higher percentage of
the revenues than us. I I I readily conceded that
(28:58):
baseball had a superior union to us. Now fast forward
thirty years later, the decisions we made there, we are
dunking on baseball. In fact, the World Series, their premiere
event is in this decade, is out drawn by our
selection show. The NFL Draft has more viewers in the
(29:20):
first round than the World Series. And then I cited
you all the revenue discrepancies. How base of football is
again just lapping baseball.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Well by the way, by the way, just to wrap
this up, because we gotta get a break, Okay. Whatever
team was trading for trek skuobl was taken on ten
point six million dollars in salary the rest of the year.
Now I can understand not wanting to give up like
your number one, number two, number three, number four prospects
for a guy that's there for two months because you
still think, hey, the odds of us winning. But if
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you're a team that is in the race, by the way,
like if you're the Yankees, if you're the Red Sox,
if you're the Guardians, if you're the Houston Astros, ten
point six million dollars added your payroll and the prospects
that it took to get him should not have been
a big enough reason for every other team in contention
to say no to a Tearic Scuoble trade, and the.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
One quick the fact that it apparently was is insane. Yes,
but remember this. The gap between the highest payroll in
the lowest payroll in the NFL is thirty one million.
The gap between the highest and lowest in baseball is
thirty million. It's it's basically, it's ten times the gap.
So the structure of baseball has simply got to change him.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
By the way star lingers start, you're gonna make more.
Speaker 7 (30:36):
Revenue and you're gonna get a higher percentage it What
is not to like unless you're just gonna if one sodo,
it might be worse Okay, you're gonna you're gonna tear
down baseball for the one Sodas.
Speaker 5 (30:47):
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Speaker 2 (30:48):
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(36:13):
All credit to Seattle for coming back in that game,
for having big balls in overtime and winning. But I
felt like Los Angeles was better that Thursday night. I
thought they were gonna win that game in Seattle. They didn't.
The Seahawks are the Rainy champs, and they deserve and
earned every bit of it. But I was stubborn then
and I'm stubborn now.
Speaker 3 (36:33):
All Right.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
He's obviously on the Rams wagon this year, and part
of his reasoning is that he thought the Rams were
a better team last year, and they've gone out and
they've gotten Miles Garrett and the Seahawks have gone out
and lost players like Kenny Walker. So for someone to
say that, even though the Hawks won two out of
three and beat them in the NFC Championship, that hey,
I thought they're like, I mean.
Speaker 3 (36:55):
I can I can debate.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
I could hear somebody saying the Rams were more talented
than the Seahawks, But I thought the way that you
judged what team was better by how many games they
win against each other.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's not how you do it.
Speaker 5 (37:09):
Uh yeah, I mean I don't think it's a terrible
take by him. I mean I had my dukes up.
I'm like, all right, s VP, I'm ready to pounce.
But I think his his take was reasonable. I you know,
particularly now, the structure of it is that the NFC
Championship game should have been in LA because of the
(37:31):
the wonky two point conversion, which was come on, If
we can't concede that that was fluky, then we're just
not being remotely objective.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
But what about all the other players that let me
take advantage of it?
Speaker 3 (37:46):
No?
Speaker 5 (37:46):
Yeah, but there's no there's no guarantee. I mean, the
LA stadium is not the most formidable. I mean, that's
not like going to play in Green Bay or something. Right,
So Seattle could have gone down and won that game.
And you know what I think in the NFC Championship game,
I think Seattle soda versatility that Hey, you think we're
(38:09):
just a defensive team. How about this? That quarterback is
legit because when Matthew Stafford is just throwing darts everywhere,
then and it's needed. Guess what Seattle has a quarterback
that can step up and match him. He can lay
dormant when he's not needed, but when he's needed, just
(38:29):
call him up and he will deliver. And he was
at three hundred and forty six yards, three touchdowns, no picks,
near perfection in the NFC Championship games. I don't think
it's a I don't think it's a horrible take. Put
it this way, there's a lot worse takes that I've heard.
Speaker 3 (38:43):
Well, I will tell you this.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
If you're gonna tell me that the Rams were the
better football team, that I'll tell you that Mike McDonald's
the better coach because that means he beat Sean McVay
with the worst product twice.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
Agreed.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
I wouldn't change.
Speaker 5 (38:55):
I would not trade Mike McDonald for Sean McVay. They're
similar in a four years separate.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Him, right trade? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (39:04):
All right, Uh, let's do one more here before the break. Hey, Hugh,
did you happen to hear that.
Speaker 5 (39:08):
What's that dick?
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Let's go to number four, Travis, you know what's coming.
Speaker 5 (39:15):
By the way, you do know that if when Fane's
not here and they play that what's that dick?
Speaker 3 (39:21):
Because that goes.
Speaker 5 (39:21):
From being a a noun, right, a proper noun to
Dick Fane to be directed at you. You do, you
got that right?
Speaker 3 (39:32):
I'm just look, we just thought we play it.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
No matter who's sitting there, whether it's you or whether
it's Dick, or whether it's Jackson, or whether it's the yogre,
it's always going to be a part of the show.
Speaker 3 (39:42):
And that.
Speaker 2 (39:45):
On the Pat McAfee Show this morning, Aaron Rodgers was
asked about his mindset this offseason and proceeded to go
off on Anthony Fauci and criticized ESPN for not covering
a certain member of the media who votes on the
NFL MVP and the Coach of the Year named Diana Russini.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
Check it out.
Speaker 10 (40:06):
Can you tell us about the mindset of coming into
your last season? Like that's a real thing, it feels like,
because is everything better? Is everything funner? Is everything more awesome?
Like how do you kind of view this year verse
maybe the years of the past?
Speaker 8 (40:17):
I'm gonna plead the fifth Okay, okay, okay, like that
absolute coward tony absolutelary, Are you kidding me? Yeah, you
got a pardon and you're and you pleaded over a
hundred times.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
Yea at the White House? What are you scared of? Tony?
Speaker 8 (40:37):
I thought you were the science Yeah yeah, I thought
you or I am science and you get up there
and you can't answer a question.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Yeah, what do we doing?
Speaker 5 (40:44):
And how much time did the network spend of that?
Speaker 8 (40:46):
How much time did they spend on my responses every
week on my vaccination statut An Taylor at Travis's wedding?
Did they do even a minute? Did they do even
a minute on Tony Fauci? No, I don't think I've
forgot I bet they didn't. But on that now and
there was another scandalous offseason too, involved in a voter
(41:07):
for MVP for Coach of the Year. How much time
do you did your network spand where's it did your
network spend on that network?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You know what I love is that McAfee's trying to
desperately move on and Rogers just keeps pulling him back
in on his own network. Man, how about that Aaron
Rodgers does not give a damn.
Speaker 5 (41:29):
Hey, you know what, I tipped my hat to Aaron
Rodgers there because I think that needed to be said
about Fauci. I mean, you go back and you think
of how that dominated the sports world. Uh, there was
definitely a leaning in all of that, and uh, you know,
I think he was the u at the brunt of
(41:50):
much of it within the sports world, and so I
think he's got a right to to fight back a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Well, ESPN makes a habit of like to share their
opinions on a variety of topics, and when you do that,
you're gonna have a lot of people that will disagree
and want to go the opposite way. So you definitely
invite some of that if you're ESPN, no doubt. All Right,
we're gonna break Gray's Abel. You ready for this? Seahawk
left guard Stud gonna join us next
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