May 12, 2026 • 26 mins
It’s Deja Vu in the Reign FC universe — another match without a goal, and this one hurts. Keely Dunning, Laura Schott and this week’s guest, Kelyn Rowe, breakdown a beyond-disappointing 0-1 loss to Washington Spirit. Then, Laura Schott responds to Coach Laura Harvey’s post-match press conference as the Reign look to reignite the attack before the upcoming World Cup break.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome back to another episode of Rain Weekly. Kille Dunning
here with Laura Shott and Kellen Rowe is joining this week.
Hi Kellen, what is up with you? My friend?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Beautiful out? I wear short sleeves to work now I'm happy?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, there we go, amazing. All right, let's quickly recap
what was a very disappointing but really fun game to
watch and a strong Rain performance, to be honest, but
both of those things, unfortunately have made this disappointing. We
hosted Washington Spirit on five ten on Mother's Day. It
was a beautiful day and we were the better team
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on the day. I will let you guys break it down,
but unfortunately we left with no points and a one
nil loss to Washington Spirit, who, to their credit, our
team where everything seems to be falling exactly how it
needs to fall, and for the Rain, it's kind of
the opposite. To be honest, luck is not on our side,
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and luck hasn't really been on our side for the
past couple of games. Laura, Kellen, let's break down this
disappointing result. What did you guys see from the Rain
on the day? It felt like they were the better team,
But what were your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean here we go. I uh yeah, I
the possession was Seattle had the edge of fifty two
point seven percent shots twelve to eight. Shots on goal
was three to two, Seattle again having the edge, but
three to two. Whenever we're or any team is below five,
it just doesn't seem like you're really generating necessarily real
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dangerous chances. You might be getting shots off, but getting
a shot off is very different than a goal scoring chance.
They should almost be completely different statistics, even if it
is on frame. You know, I I like a lot
of the things that the Rain are doing. The Rain
have built well in the middle third, and I would
even give them credit for the final third. You know,
Mercado hits another crossbar. That's just unfortunate that those aren't
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going in and they're going out. So there's a lot
of good build up. I would say, in my opinion,
the challenging piece right now for the Rain is the
urgency and the focus and the cunning. I'll use that
word in the eighteen all right, I'll be honest. When
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there's a crossing chance, when there are these opportunities when
d Aline's on the ball, and I mean to some extent,
we know what her biggest strength is. Do I see
players pulling away? Do I see them at a full sprint?
Do I see them demanding the ball? I'd say maybe
too many times not, I would say sometimes yes. But
as everybody tends to say, scoring is the hardest thing
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to do in this game, and in order to do it,
you have to be very athletic. You have to be
very focused. You have to be very cunning. You have
to be you have to be predicting what's going to
happen and see it faster than everybody else around you.
And I think that that's really where we're falling short
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You said athletic. I was very unathletic, and I scored
plenty of goals, So I don't know what you're talking
about there, But I like the word cunning. I like
it a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know, Kellen, I'm gonna I don't know, you can
play as long as you have in a professional league
and not be athletics. So I'm gonna hold you right there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You've seen me walk up and downstairs right now, so
I don't know what you're talking about. You've seen you've
seen me, like helping me up and down the stairs. No,
I like the word cunning because it is a little
bit of something and it goes with what Keeley said too. Right,
we're not getting the luck that most other teams are getting,
and of course it comes sometimes, but there's little bits
that you can create your own luck with. Right taking
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a shot knowing that it's going to deflect, or hoping
it's going to deflect off a bunch of people because hey, everyone,
it's a corner kick and everyone's in the box, and
so it's gonna have a chance, right, Instead of playing
it wide again or we're trying to dribble two or
three people, you have to take the opportunity to create
that luck. And you talked about a little bit of cunningness.
I think there is an art and that I played
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with that really had it, where guys like Rol ri
Diez or Freddi Montero that around the box there is
a sense of if I touch him, he's going to
go down and if I don't, he's going to score. Right,
And so you just again you're creating this luck of
if a player gets close, great, we have a free
kick near the top of the box or near the
end line where it's an easier chance for us to
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find a goal and if not, you're creating something out
of nothing. I just don't see that that savviness around
the eighteen around the box. But we have the players
that can do. You talk about Mattie Mercados, she had
a death little touch and I should have been an
assist two games ago. She hits the crossbar again. Me official,
who has that ability? I think when she's confident and
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going to have that ability to have that kindness and
really find a way to get the back of the net.
And it's going to come in bunches, but that first
one has to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Stephanie Verdoya said this on the radio call, which was awesome.
Wh we were bad on nine fifty KGr AM for
radio for this match. Great stuff. Make sure you tune in.
The next one is going to be made twenty second
against Boston. Excuse my shameless plug, but Stephanie at a
really good point where she said, you know, the starting eleven,
it's hard to say that they're not that this is
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not a successful starting eleven, that Laura is not putting
out a good roster every single match. But at a
certain point, if you're not scoring you have to make
a change like you had just You have to see
if there's different pieces that can work together in a
different way. And it's not to say that you know
the pieces right now are bad pieces, because that's ridiculous.
We have a great roster, but at a certain point,
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if you're not scoring, you have to make a change.
And I'd be curious you guys, put your coach's hats on.
What changes would you like to see?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I I don't know if there are a lot of
changes I'd like to see, just in the way I
mean in terms of personnel and specific the front line.
And I'm saying that because I think that these players
are capable of producing, and I mean that wholeheartedly. They
were producing at the beginning of the year. I realized
that just fishlock hit is a big one. We know
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how dynamic she is, and I think right now you
can see that that kind of missing element that she brings.
It's not just when she sees a moment, how she
makes her run, when she sees the gaps. I mean,
you can go on about, you know, her ability to
read the game and then execute. But what I would
like to see right now is I would like to
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see me official take the next step. I would like
to see her. You know, we said in a couple
of games, they saw it in this game as well.
You know, she's taking these big swings and she's doing
a lot of great things and hold up play and
connecting passes and getting in the box. It seems that
she wants to score the big goal when she could
probably at this point have two or three really simple ones. Dline.
We know what she brings. She brings speech, she brings deception.
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She's on that wing. She had opportunities in this game
against Washington to go at players and create shots. The
shots that she hit I didn't see them being very dangerous, right,
So it's that final piece again, Mercado. She's been one
of our most effective attackers. I don't think necessarily anybody
saw that coming if you would have looked at the
roster at the beginning of the year. She's been really dynamic.
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She had chances in this game. She hits a crossbar again,
and then Mondasiere. You know, Mondasier has had goals this year.
She's had opportunities. She's getting in the box. You see
these players that are creating things, and they're generating chances.
For me, the piece that's missing is and this is
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this is just how I see it. But for me,
for attackers, there's attacking and there's making runs, and there's
being a forward, and then there's being a striker and
there's being a goal scorer, and those are different things.
And these guys have to decide if they're forwards or
if they're goal scorers. And what that comes down to
is mentality. And they're either going to go into after
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practice and they're going to hit reps. You do the
things that are not sexy at all. You hit, you know,
thirty forty fifty balls, just crosses coming in finish, Hit
the corner, hit the corner, hit the corner right. You
have to do things in repetition. And then on top
of that, obviously games are much more dynamic and you
have to take in all of these inputs, all these
things that are changing. Where's the goalkeeper, where's the defender positioned?
How am I going to drag that defender away so
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there's enough of a gap that I can get to
the ball first and then take advantage of all these
reps I've been hitting. I think these players do a
lot of work. I think they're extremely talented. Right now,
what I'm seeing that's really missing, and I should add
Radcliffe in here as well, because she's scored some goals too.
Is just that final element of when am I going
to be the person? Right? When am I going to
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step in? What are these players going to step in
and take the reins on this? I think that they're capable.
I think that they can do it. I think that
right now, I don't see that final piece. And when
I speak to that final piece, if you want to
see kind of a discrept of it, think of Jess
Fishlock coming into a game late second half of twenty
twenty five making a difference. That piece is partly is
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she talented?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Heck yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Is she a veteran?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Heck yeah. Can you be talented and be athletic and
be a veteran and never do that?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And a lot of people will call that an intangible
I think that it's a skill and it takes a
lot of effort, and that's why people think that it's intangible,
that piece of understanding the game. When these players take
that step, I think that all of them can score goals.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I mean, yeah, the little pieces that people don't see
these great players in the world will stay after and
hit twenty thirty, forty fifty crosses. One good cross is
not good enough to be a pro. One good cross
a game is not, especially if you did five or
six of them. You know, having ninety percent of your
cross is finding the target, your target, not a hopeful ball,
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but having the target you had in mind. That is
a professional soccer player. That is a real pro. So yeah, absolutely.
Credit to your point there, Laura, is that you have
to do the extra work. Now if we've got to
put the coach's hat on. You want to talk tactics,
that simple tactic that I would change. And this is
just the one thing, and it's going to evolve into others.
But let's say you start with Emory Damas and Maddy
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Dolleen on the wings. I'm swabbing them. I don't want
them coming inside anymore. I want Emory Damas on the left,
I want Maddy Dollen on the right, and I want
them to go down the line. I want you to
go straight down the line. And then if you want
to cut in and it across or hit a shot
short of course, but you're most dominant on these feet
we're going to the end line. We're finding across in
the box. Then we're putting on a Matty Mercado as
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the ten and me official as the nine. You guys
have to be in the box. Have to be this
is a rule. Now you have to be in the
box when someone gets down the line, say Matty Dollien
goes down the line on the right side. You now
have two players, one near post, hopefully one on the
penalty spot. Hopefully you all then are now making another rule, right,
we are going to score goals. Emery Damas the opposite
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midfielder has to be on that back post. That is
three players now, which we don't often see for the
rain three players in the box. I would put in
another outs of Hey, whoever is the second six one
of you, most likely whoever's not sam MESA one of
you needs to be on top of the box. That
is how you create a goal scoring opportunity. You can
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do different tactics of like four four to two diamond,
putting two people up front and finding the best way
to gather your players on there. But I think the
o sense of getting to the getting to the outsides
and finding across. But when you're finding across. You are
one picking out a player, but two you have options
because at the moment they're just crossing the ball and
they don't have options where they don't know what to
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do with the ball. We're trying to go force it
down the middle. I understand we have some good players
that can play one touch and move the ball, but
then when you play one touch and move the ball,
it goes wide. What else? What now? So I think
just having these little moments of triggers of hey, when
it gets to this point, you have to be here
and that's just the starting point, and then you can
be creative, but you have to be here because otherwise
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we have no chance of scoring these goals.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I would love to see Mia be that goal scorer.
I think of the personnel on the team and of
the expectations. Frankly, I think that she's mentality wise, and
I think she's so close. She's right there, typical striker.
You just need to get that first goal in the
net and then hopefully that just opens up the flight.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's just like that big, you know, thirty pound gorilla
on her back, exactly, like it's just weighing on her.
You can see it like what was the she had
a missed I think a miss in Houston that was
like a volley that was right there for her, is
right in front of inside of six and it just
like some reason it like slipped up or whatever happened
and she just missed it. That is not a That
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wasn't a confident forward. You haven't seen the ball go
in the back of the net enough to have that
kind of miss and that kind of miss and you
can see it weigh on her when she missed, and
you can see that just the disappointment again when she missed.
So you know, if you're you're inform and you miss that,
you laugh it off.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Mia be a goldfish, Just be a goldfish to take from.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's harder than it's harder than it sounds, that's for
darn sure. I still remember multiple misses that I ad
and I bet you Laura does too, right. I probably
have more misses that I remember than I do goals.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think just in general. I was going to say
for soccer, but I think in sports in general. The
funny thing about it, and athletes are such you know,
competitors and winners, but the majority of your time is failing.
Oh yeah, like the majority is a failure.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Technically, well, it's learning from that failure and making sure
that failure doesn't weigh you down, because there's a ton
of success as well. Right, who fails less and which
failure leads to a goal and which one leads to
a throw in? Yep, you're going to miss passes, You're
going to do those things. That's that's absolutely you know,
I don't think there's been in the history of a
full ninety minute game one hundred percent passing rating, right,
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But when when you do miss those passes, is it
in your own box trying to play out and they score? Okay,
you can have a ninety eight passing rating, but you
lost one zero because they scored the goal that you
were had. Can you miss that pass long? Right? Can
you miss that pass out for a throw in? A
dangerous ball? But it's not in your back line? You know,
there's there's certain things that can happen. And look, the
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Rains defense is pretty darn good. It's not terrible, it's
pretty good. And so yes, there are gaps. Just there's
still some injuries out obviously with a Jordan bug, but
there's there's still a solid piece there. You know, I
think that the wing actually the wing play could be
a little bit more inviting in many ways. Sophia Art's
obviously the best just leader in the NWSL. Let's probably
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get her on the ball a little higher up. But
we're not conceding three, four or five goals, So let's
find a way to get the other side right. Let's
focus on the other side because the defense is taking
care of taking care of their job.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, you know, to your point, Collen, like when you
bring up the wing play and you talk about the
crosses and tactically who were going to get in win?
I mean, I think some of our best play was
when we were getting more to forward. And one game
that sticks out in my mind. We were in Spokane
and a Damis was on the right and so is Wherta,
and the decision making of a Damis in those moments
of whether she was going to go out of player,
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send across or send it back to Huerta. Who is
going to cross? That opened that game up. And then
there were numbers in the box and there were a
lot of opportunities and there were a lot of goals.
But when we've gotten away from that and frankly, when
the speed of play is slowed down in the attacking
third and looks indecisive and runs aren't recycled, it just
gets stale. And that's that right now. You know whether
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we're going to be in a three front or move
to a two front, or we play with a one
front and we have, you know, four in midfield with
two attacking mids who.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Come in late.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Anyway you look at it. You have to get the
runs in the box and you have to have those
combinations and that understanding between players and the timing, and
that looked really good in the first game. It looked
really good in the beginning. And they just have to
get back to those simple things and they're hard. They're simple,
but they're not easy. And I say that a lot
when I'm coaching. Soccer is a super simple game. It
doesn't mean that it's easy, and they have to do
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that really difficult work to make those connections happen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I love that the difference between easy and simple interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Super simple soccer is really simple. It's like cross country
with a little springing and geometry. That's basically I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I it was really bad at geometry, so I don't
know if that makes.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean, we just make it hard. We make it
harder than we think. Yeah, it is. It can be
a simple game. There are not simple players, absolutely, but
it can be a simple game. Bruce Arena. I just
had the conversation this weekend, actually, when I was in
San Jose watching the earthquakes, and I got to tell
some old Bruce Arena stories and I remember him telling me, Hey,
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there are now better players than you. I want you
to kick someone, win the ball, and pass to the
number ten. That's your whole job. Okay, kick someone, win
the ball, pass the number ten. And I made a
year out of it. That's why I was on the
field because I was good at that. I'd go hunt
the ball out like like Sam Mas, it does get it. Hey,
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where is my number ten? Where are my players that
are going to play? Make boom? Give it to them,
let them do the craziest things. Simplify the game, because
it is. It can be such a simple game, and
we make it so hotter on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
All right, Kellen, thank you so much for joining us
for this episode. Laura and I will return to preview
our next match against Got Them. But Kellen has a
day job. So we're gonna let him go to his
day job. Appreciate you, dude.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Thanks guys here the best, Kellen, Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Taking so much time to work on that offense especially.
I think for what you were saying, that you spent
a lot of time working on that last week. I mean,
is there something that in training that you're thinking that
you're going to have to reevaluate to get that knowing
or do you feel that your feelings might just be
raw right now?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I think we do a lot in those moments. I
think it's you know, I said this to the players
all the time, you know my mind, and the coaching
staff's responsibility is to try and set the players up
for success in regards to getting in those moments. Their
responsibility is to execute those moments as best they possibly can.
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And I think that that's a layer we need to
work on.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think we as a group care deeply about how
we defend. We care a lot about the opposition not
getting you know, loads of opportunities against us. We knew
that they pressed with a lot of people, so we
worked a lot on breaking that press. I thought we
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did that brilliantly, but that final layer, like it's just repetition,
and we a lot of repetition this week of that
of getting in those moments, and we scored a lot
of goals and we create a lot of opportunities when
we were working on it in training, and then today
we just lacked that killer instinct. I thought in those moments, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
The hardest thing about coaching, if I'm being honest, is
that your tactics can be great, right, I mean, that's
kind of honestly, that's kind of what I said in
the first segment. I mean, that's just the reality is,
like you couldn't I mean, convince me that Showinga's brilliance
is tactical. Convince me that Rodman's brilliance is tactical, right,
Convince me that shaw Is brilliance is tactical. That's not
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a tactic. Convince me that Phil Jackson's tactics made Michael Jordan.
You know, I understand what she's saying there. I think
that that's just the nature of coaching. If you're going
to take a head coaching job, anybody in these roles,
you know that if your team's not scoring, you're going
to take some heat. People are going to wonder why.
There's going to be a lot of armchair experts just
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trying to figure out and analyze why isn't this happening. Obviously,
fans want goals, fans want whens. Everybody does. That's not
limited to fans. If players wanted the coaches want it,
admin want everybody wants it. We want it. But the
reality is is that tactics are meant to get players
into positions to then be successful, right and then do
what those players do. They're meant to get you into
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spots so that you can shine. And what we've seen
in the last few games is the Rainer creating a
lot of opportunities, even more than their opponents. They had
twelve shots in this last game. Three of those were
on frame. Now the question becomes, when those three are
on frame and nine or not and they're not going
in the goal, what part of that is Laura Harvey
or a head coach's fault. That's where player responsibility really
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has to come in. If you're getting to the spots
where you're getting the shots, where you're getting the opportunities,
then what is failing at that moment? Isn't necessarily a
tactic in that very moment when that forward or that
player is meeting the ball. The tactics got you there.
You executed the tactics. Now you have to execute the
next step, which is finishing the play. And there's a
reason why it's called finishing. It's the finishing that isn't happening.
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Do we think, Ronaldo, do we think that that's tactics?
Do we think that Barbara Banda has eight goals because
of tactics. Tactics get you into spots. They're important, They're
paramountly important to the success of a team. Defensively, I
would say we've been very solid. We haven't given up
a ton of goals. Other than you know, a couple
of games. We can throw those aside. That's going to
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happen once in a while for various reasons. But right now,
you know a lot of things tactically are going well.
Could we change some things? Sure, always could. I'm sure
everybody's racking their brain to break this moment in time
and get the goals flowing. But I mean, when I
was a player, I was a goal scorer, and I
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was very keenly aware that there was a difference between
a forward and a goal scorer. And you know, I
played professionally for a bit and I was capped with
the national team, and if I wasn't scoring, I knew
that that was my fault. And I know that these
players probably feel some of that weight right now. So
right now, it's really about clearing that mentally and getting
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focused on the job at hand and then executing, which
these players can do. So it's really about players just
getting back to what they do their best. And we
know that the officials and the Adamis and the Dolins
and the Radcliffs and the Monda Sears and I'm going
to miss somebody in Mercado, right we know that these
guys can can score because they were Yeah, so they
need to get back to what they've been doing well.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Absolutely, And only a couple of matches left before the
World Cup break, and you just know that they want
to break the strout before that break. You don't want
to go yeah, like you just know it. You just
know it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Uh yeah, it just takes that extra bit of it's
going to take a little extra bit of focus, emergency,
it really is. And once, once, once there's a breakthrough,
I think you're going to see a bigger breakthrough.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yep, just keep pressuring, just keep you know, shoot shoot
shoot shoot, shoot shot shoot. The more you shoot, the
higher probability you are to score. Excuse my amazing socker
i Q right there. You know, the more you shoot,
the more you're good calling score and you appreciate it,
all right. Preview first for this match against Gotham, who
are defending NWSL champs. They caught fire at the end
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of the season last year, although we had a couple
of good results against them, considered notably towards the end
of the season, very very hard fought draw at Gotham,
and that was when they were firing on all cylinders.
This is a team that is loaded. They are absolutely loaded.
It's gonna be a tough one. They are sitting in
fifth right now, four three and two, but they have
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not lost in their last four matches, so they are
also on a hot streak. Let us be the end
of a hot streak. How about that, We're gonna end
their hot streak. What are your keys to this match
against Gotham, Laura.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I think we've been doing a lot of things well,
and of course hold back the scoring. We all know
that that's the elephant in the room against the team
like Gotham. You've got to know when your moments are
to go and get in the box and then of
course finish. But you have to also, on the on
the flip side, be able to contain their best players,
and there are there are many. There's a reason why
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they won the championship last year, and they've returned many
of those players. So I think defensively, again, the reign
have been pretty solid, so it's really going to be
about picking the times to go forward and then in
those times, I think we got to go with a
little bit more speed, a little bit more urgency, and
be a little bit more calculated and how we do it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
This might be one of those, not one of those matches,
but we've been talking about just the mental block that
these players probably have, but just in terms of they're
getting their tactically, the final execution just isn't there. At
a certain point, I almost feel like it doesn't even
matter the opponent for them mentally, like obviously watch the
tape plan for the team plan blah blah blah, but
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it's really up to us. Frankly, That's how it feels.
A couple of more milestones I know shocker more milestones crazy.
Phoebe Mclarnan's next appearance will mark her one hundredth NWSL
regular season appearance, which is crazy. Congratulations to you, gratulation
with her. Sophia Huerta's next appearance will mark her one
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hundredth rain FC regular season appearance, which makes her six
in club history. So congratulations to Sophia. It's crazy. I
she's been with the Rain for such a long time.
I still think of her sometimes as playing like Houston
because she started her career in Houston. She's got the
Rain for a really long time. So congratulations to you, Sophia.
And Claudia Dickie is three three saves, shy of reaching
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two hundred regular season saves, which would make her thirteenth
overall in NWSL. Claudia Dickie, unbelievable. See we have. This
is such a talented team, guys, this is the Rain
are so talented. In Laura Harvey, we trust in Leslie Callamore.
We trust we will start scoring. I have absolutely no
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doubt about it. Stick with us, stick with the Rain,
Come on out on five fifteen. It's gonna be really
really fun. World Cup buzz is a buzz and you
don't want to miss that. Womenfield is just electric right now.
Sounder's playing Wednesday, Rain playing Friday, and then the Sounder's
playing again over the weekend. I mean it's soccer and Seattle.
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There's no better time to head out to Wumenfield. All right, guys,
we will be back next week with Rain Weekly back
to our normal time on Wednesday. Laura, thanks for joining
us again. Kellen, thank you, and we will be back
Welcome back to another episode of Rain Weekly. Kille Dunning
here with Laura Shott and Kellen Rowe is joining this week.
Hi Kellen, what is up with you? My friend?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Beautiful out? I wear short sleeves to work now I'm happy?
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Okay, there we go, amazing. All right, let's quickly recap
what was a very disappointing but really fun game to
watch and a strong Rain performance, to be honest, but
both of those things, unfortunately have made this disappointing. We
hosted Washington Spirit on five ten on Mother's Day. It
was a beautiful day and we were the better team
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on the day. I will let you guys break it down,
but unfortunately we left with no points and a one
nil loss to Washington Spirit, who, to their credit, our
team where everything seems to be falling exactly how it
needs to fall, and for the Rain, it's kind of
the opposite. To be honest, luck is not on our side,
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and luck hasn't really been on our side for the
past couple of games. Laura, Kellen, let's break down this
disappointing result. What did you guys see from the Rain
on the day? It felt like they were the better team,
But what were your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean here we go. I uh yeah, I
the possession was Seattle had the edge of fifty two
point seven percent shots twelve to eight. Shots on goal
was three to two, Seattle again having the edge, but
three to two. Whenever we're or any team is below five,
it just doesn't seem like you're really generating necessarily real
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dangerous chances. You might be getting shots off, but getting
a shot off is very different than a goal scoring chance.
They should almost be completely different statistics, even if it
is on frame. You know, I I like a lot
of the things that the Rain are doing. The Rain
have built well in the middle third, and I would
even give them credit for the final third. You know,
Mercado hits another crossbar. That's just unfortunate that those aren't
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going in and they're going out. So there's a lot
of good build up. I would say, in my opinion,
the challenging piece right now for the Rain is the
urgency and the focus and the cunning. I'll use that
word in the eighteen all right, I'll be honest. When
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there's a crossing chance, when there are these opportunities when
d Aline's on the ball, and I mean to some extent,
we know what her biggest strength is. Do I see
players pulling away? Do I see them at a full sprint?
Do I see them demanding the ball? I'd say maybe
too many times not, I would say sometimes yes. But
as everybody tends to say, scoring is the hardest thing
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to do in this game, and in order to do it,
you have to be very athletic. You have to be
very focused. You have to be very cunning. You have
to be you have to be predicting what's going to
happen and see it faster than everybody else around you.
And I think that that's really where we're falling short
right now.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
You said athletic. I was very unathletic, and I scored
plenty of goals, So I don't know what you're talking
about there, But I like the word cunning. I like
it a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
You know, Kellen, I'm gonna I don't know, you can
play as long as you have in a professional league
and not be athletics. So I'm gonna hold you right there.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
You've seen me walk up and downstairs right now, so
I don't know what you're talking about. You've seen you've
seen me, like helping me up and down the stairs. No,
I like the word cunning because it is a little
bit of something and it goes with what Keeley said too. Right,
we're not getting the luck that most other teams are getting,
and of course it comes sometimes, but there's little bits
that you can create your own luck with. Right taking
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a shot knowing that it's going to deflect, or hoping
it's going to deflect off a bunch of people because hey, everyone,
it's a corner kick and everyone's in the box, and
so it's gonna have a chance, right, Instead of playing
it wide again or we're trying to dribble two or
three people, you have to take the opportunity to create
that luck. And you talked about a little bit of cunningness.
I think there is an art and that I played
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with that really had it, where guys like Rol ri
Diez or Freddi Montero that around the box there is
a sense of if I touch him, he's going to
go down and if I don't, he's going to score. Right,
And so you just again you're creating this luck of
if a player gets close, great, we have a free
kick near the top of the box or near the
end line where it's an easier chance for us to
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find a goal and if not, you're creating something out
of nothing. I just don't see that that savviness around
the eighteen around the box. But we have the players
that can do. You talk about Mattie Mercados, she had
a death little touch and I should have been an
assist two games ago. She hits the crossbar again. Me official,
who has that ability? I think when she's confident and
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going to have that ability to have that kindness and
really find a way to get the back of the net.
And it's going to come in bunches, but that first
one has to get there.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Stephanie Verdoya said this on the radio call, which was awesome.
Wh we were bad on nine fifty KGr AM for
radio for this match. Great stuff. Make sure you tune in.
The next one is going to be made twenty second
against Boston. Excuse my shameless plug, but Stephanie at a
really good point where she said, you know, the starting eleven,
it's hard to say that they're not that this is
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not a successful starting eleven, that Laura is not putting
out a good roster every single match. But at a
certain point, if you're not scoring you have to make
a change like you had just You have to see
if there's different pieces that can work together in a
different way. And it's not to say that you know
the pieces right now are bad pieces, because that's ridiculous.
We have a great roster, but at a certain point,
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if you're not scoring, you have to make a change.
And I'd be curious you guys, put your coach's hats on.
What changes would you like to see?
Speaker 3 (05:53):
I I don't know if there are a lot of
changes I'd like to see, just in the way I
mean in terms of personnel and specific the front line.
And I'm saying that because I think that these players
are capable of producing, and I mean that wholeheartedly. They
were producing at the beginning of the year. I realized
that just fishlock hit is a big one. We know
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how dynamic she is, and I think right now you
can see that that kind of missing element that she brings.
It's not just when she sees a moment, how she
makes her run, when she sees the gaps. I mean,
you can go on about, you know, her ability to
read the game and then execute. But what I would
like to see right now is I would like to
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see me official take the next step. I would like
to see her. You know, we said in a couple
of games, they saw it in this game as well.
You know, she's taking these big swings and she's doing
a lot of great things and hold up play and
connecting passes and getting in the box. It seems that
she wants to score the big goal when she could
probably at this point have two or three really simple ones. Dline.
We know what she brings. She brings speech, she brings deception.
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She's on that wing. She had opportunities in this game
against Washington to go at players and create shots. The
shots that she hit I didn't see them being very dangerous, right,
So it's that final piece again, Mercado. She's been one
of our most effective attackers. I don't think necessarily anybody
saw that coming if you would have looked at the
roster at the beginning of the year. She's been really dynamic.
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She had chances in this game. She hits a crossbar again,
and then Mondasiere. You know, Mondasier has had goals this year.
She's had opportunities. She's getting in the box. You see
these players that are creating things, and they're generating chances.
For me, the piece that's missing is and this is
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this is just how I see it. But for me,
for attackers, there's attacking and there's making runs, and there's
being a forward, and then there's being a striker and
there's being a goal scorer, and those are different things.
And these guys have to decide if they're forwards or
if they're goal scorers. And what that comes down to
is mentality. And they're either going to go into after
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practice and they're going to hit reps. You do the
things that are not sexy at all. You hit, you know,
thirty forty fifty balls, just crosses coming in finish, Hit
the corner, hit the corner, hit the corner right. You
have to do things in repetition. And then on top
of that, obviously games are much more dynamic and you
have to take in all of these inputs, all these
things that are changing. Where's the goalkeeper, where's the defender positioned?
How am I going to drag that defender away so
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there's enough of a gap that I can get to
the ball first and then take advantage of all these
reps I've been hitting. I think these players do a
lot of work. I think they're extremely talented. Right now,
what I'm seeing that's really missing, and I should add
Radcliffe in here as well, because she's scored some goals too.
Is just that final element of when am I going
to be the person? Right? When am I going to
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step in? What are these players going to step in
and take the reins on this? I think that they're capable.
I think that they can do it. I think that
right now, I don't see that final piece. And when
I speak to that final piece, if you want to
see kind of a discrept of it, think of Jess
Fishlock coming into a game late second half of twenty
twenty five making a difference. That piece is partly is
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she talented?
Speaker 4 (09:09):
Heck yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Is she a veteran?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Heck yeah. Can you be talented and be athletic and
be a veteran and never do that?
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And a lot of people will call that an intangible
I think that it's a skill and it takes a
lot of effort, and that's why people think that it's intangible,
that piece of understanding the game. When these players take
that step, I think that all of them can score goals.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I mean, yeah, the little pieces that people don't see
these great players in the world will stay after and
hit twenty thirty, forty fifty crosses. One good cross is
not good enough to be a pro. One good cross
a game is not, especially if you did five or
six of them. You know, having ninety percent of your
cross is finding the target, your target, not a hopeful ball,
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but having the target you had in mind. That is
a professional soccer player. That is a real pro. So yeah, absolutely.
Credit to your point there, Laura, is that you have
to do the extra work. Now if we've got to
put the coach's hat on. You want to talk tactics,
that simple tactic that I would change. And this is
just the one thing, and it's going to evolve into others.
But let's say you start with Emory Damas and Maddy
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Dolleen on the wings. I'm swabbing them. I don't want
them coming inside anymore. I want Emory Damas on the left,
I want Maddy Dollen on the right, and I want
them to go down the line. I want you to
go straight down the line. And then if you want
to cut in and it across or hit a shot
short of course, but you're most dominant on these feet
we're going to the end line. We're finding across in
the box. Then we're putting on a Matty Mercado as
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the ten and me official as the nine. You guys
have to be in the box. Have to be this
is a rule. Now you have to be in the
box when someone gets down the line, say Matty Dollien
goes down the line on the right side. You now
have two players, one near post, hopefully one on the
penalty spot. Hopefully you all then are now making another rule, right,
we are going to score goals. Emery Damas the opposite
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midfielder has to be on that back post. That is
three players now, which we don't often see for the
rain three players in the box. I would put in
another outs of Hey, whoever is the second six one
of you, most likely whoever's not sam MESA one of
you needs to be on top of the box. That
is how you create a goal scoring opportunity. You can
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do different tactics of like four four to two diamond,
putting two people up front and finding the best way
to gather your players on there. But I think the
o sense of getting to the getting to the outsides
and finding across. But when you're finding across. You are
one picking out a player, but two you have options
because at the moment they're just crossing the ball and
they don't have options where they don't know what to
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do with the ball. We're trying to go force it
down the middle. I understand we have some good players
that can play one touch and move the ball, but
then when you play one touch and move the ball,
it goes wide. What else? What now? So I think
just having these little moments of triggers of hey, when
it gets to this point, you have to be here
and that's just the starting point, and then you can
be creative, but you have to be here because otherwise
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we have no chance of scoring these goals.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Yeah, I would love to see Mia be that goal scorer.
I think of the personnel on the team and of
the expectations. Frankly, I think that she's mentality wise, and
I think she's so close. She's right there, typical striker.
You just need to get that first goal in the
net and then hopefully that just opens up the flight.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
It's just like that big, you know, thirty pound gorilla
on her back, exactly, like it's just weighing on her.
You can see it like what was the she had
a missed I think a miss in Houston that was
like a volley that was right there for her, is
right in front of inside of six and it just
like some reason it like slipped up or whatever happened
and she just missed it. That is not a That
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wasn't a confident forward. You haven't seen the ball go
in the back of the net enough to have that
kind of miss and that kind of miss and you
can see it weigh on her when she missed, and
you can see that just the disappointment again when she missed.
So you know, if you're you're inform and you miss that,
you laugh it off.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Mia be a goldfish, Just be a goldfish to take from.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's harder than it's harder than it sounds, that's for
darn sure. I still remember multiple misses that I ad
and I bet you Laura does too, right. I probably
have more misses that I remember than I do goals.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
I think just in general. I was going to say
for soccer, but I think in sports in general. The
funny thing about it, and athletes are such you know,
competitors and winners, but the majority of your time is failing.
Oh yeah, like the majority is a failure.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Technically, well, it's learning from that failure and making sure
that failure doesn't weigh you down, because there's a ton
of success as well. Right, who fails less and which
failure leads to a goal and which one leads to
a throw in? Yep, you're going to miss passes, You're
going to do those things. That's that's absolutely you know,
I don't think there's been in the history of a
full ninety minute game one hundred percent passing rating, right,
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But when when you do miss those passes, is it
in your own box trying to play out and they score? Okay,
you can have a ninety eight passing rating, but you
lost one zero because they scored the goal that you
were had. Can you miss that pass long? Right? Can
you miss that pass out for a throw in? A
dangerous ball? But it's not in your back line? You know,
there's there's certain things that can happen. And look, the
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Rains defense is pretty darn good. It's not terrible, it's
pretty good. And so yes, there are gaps. Just there's
still some injuries out obviously with a Jordan bug, but
there's there's still a solid piece there. You know, I
think that the wing actually the wing play could be
a little bit more inviting in many ways. Sophia Art's
obviously the best just leader in the NWSL. Let's probably
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get her on the ball a little higher up. But
we're not conceding three, four or five goals, So let's
find a way to get the other side right. Let's
focus on the other side because the defense is taking
care of taking care of their job.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah, you know, to your point, Collen, like when you
bring up the wing play and you talk about the
crosses and tactically who were going to get in win?
I mean, I think some of our best play was
when we were getting more to forward. And one game
that sticks out in my mind. We were in Spokane
and a Damis was on the right and so is Wherta,
and the decision making of a Damis in those moments
of whether she was going to go out of player,
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send across or send it back to Huerta. Who is
going to cross? That opened that game up. And then
there were numbers in the box and there were a
lot of opportunities and there were a lot of goals.
But when we've gotten away from that and frankly, when
the speed of play is slowed down in the attacking
third and looks indecisive and runs aren't recycled, it just
gets stale. And that's that right now. You know whether
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we're going to be in a three front or move
to a two front, or we play with a one
front and we have, you know, four in midfield with
two attacking mids who.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Come in late.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Anyway you look at it. You have to get the
runs in the box and you have to have those
combinations and that understanding between players and the timing, and
that looked really good in the first game. It looked
really good in the beginning. And they just have to
get back to those simple things and they're hard. They're simple,
but they're not easy. And I say that a lot
when I'm coaching. Soccer is a super simple game. It
doesn't mean that it's easy, and they have to do
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that really difficult work to make those connections happen.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I love that the difference between easy and simple interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Super simple soccer is really simple. It's like cross country
with a little springing and geometry. That's basically I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
I it was really bad at geometry, so I don't
know if that makes.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I mean, we just make it hard. We make it
harder than we think. Yeah, it is. It can be
a simple game. There are not simple players, absolutely, but
it can be a simple game. Bruce Arena. I just
had the conversation this weekend, actually, when I was in
San Jose watching the earthquakes, and I got to tell
some old Bruce Arena stories and I remember him telling me, Hey,
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there are now better players than you. I want you
to kick someone, win the ball, and pass to the
number ten. That's your whole job. Okay, kick someone, win
the ball, pass the number ten. And I made a
year out of it. That's why I was on the
field because I was good at that. I'd go hunt
the ball out like like Sam Mas, it does get it. Hey,
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where is my number ten? Where are my players that
are going to play? Make boom? Give it to them,
let them do the craziest things. Simplify the game, because
it is. It can be such a simple game, and
we make it so hotter on ourselves.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
All right, Kellen, thank you so much for joining us
for this episode. Laura and I will return to preview
our next match against Got Them. But Kellen has a
day job. So we're gonna let him go to his
day job. Appreciate you, dude.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Thanks guys here the best, Kellen, Thanks man.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Taking so much time to work on that offense especially.
I think for what you were saying, that you spent
a lot of time working on that last week. I mean,
is there something that in training that you're thinking that
you're going to have to reevaluate to get that knowing
or do you feel that your feelings might just be
raw right now?
Speaker 2 (18:04):
No.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I think we do a lot in those moments. I
think it's you know, I said this to the players
all the time, you know my mind, and the coaching
staff's responsibility is to try and set the players up
for success in regards to getting in those moments. Their
responsibility is to execute those moments as best they possibly can.
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And I think that that's a layer we need to
work on.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I think we as a group care deeply about how
we defend. We care a lot about the opposition not
getting you know, loads of opportunities against us. We knew
that they pressed with a lot of people, so we
worked a lot on breaking that press. I thought we
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did that brilliantly, but that final layer, like it's just repetition,
and we a lot of repetition this week of that
of getting in those moments, and we scored a lot
of goals and we create a lot of opportunities when
we were working on it in training, and then today
we just lacked that killer instinct. I thought in those moments, that's.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
The hardest thing about coaching, if I'm being honest, is
that your tactics can be great, right, I mean, that's
kind of honestly, that's kind of what I said in
the first segment. I mean, that's just the reality is,
like you couldn't I mean, convince me that Showinga's brilliance
is tactical. Convince me that Rodman's brilliance is tactical, right,
Convince me that shaw Is brilliance is tactical. That's not
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a tactic. Convince me that Phil Jackson's tactics made Michael Jordan.
You know, I understand what she's saying there. I think
that that's just the nature of coaching. If you're going
to take a head coaching job, anybody in these roles,
you know that if your team's not scoring, you're going
to take some heat. People are going to wonder why.
There's going to be a lot of armchair experts just
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trying to figure out and analyze why isn't this happening. Obviously,
fans want goals, fans want whens. Everybody does. That's not
limited to fans. If players wanted the coaches want it,
admin want everybody wants it. We want it. But the
reality is is that tactics are meant to get players
into positions to then be successful, right and then do
what those players do. They're meant to get you into
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spots so that you can shine. And what we've seen
in the last few games is the Rainer creating a
lot of opportunities, even more than their opponents. They had
twelve shots in this last game. Three of those were
on frame. Now the question becomes, when those three are
on frame and nine or not and they're not going
in the goal, what part of that is Laura Harvey
or a head coach's fault. That's where player responsibility really
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has to come in. If you're getting to the spots
where you're getting the shots, where you're getting the opportunities,
then what is failing at that moment? Isn't necessarily a
tactic in that very moment when that forward or that
player is meeting the ball. The tactics got you there.
You executed the tactics. Now you have to execute the
next step, which is finishing the play. And there's a
reason why it's called finishing. It's the finishing that isn't happening.
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Do we think, Ronaldo, do we think that that's tactics?
Do we think that Barbara Banda has eight goals because
of tactics. Tactics get you into spots. They're important, They're
paramountly important to the success of a team. Defensively, I
would say we've been very solid. We haven't given up
a ton of goals. Other than you know, a couple
of games. We can throw those aside. That's going to
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happen once in a while for various reasons. But right now,
you know a lot of things tactically are going well.
Could we change some things? Sure, always could. I'm sure
everybody's racking their brain to break this moment in time
and get the goals flowing. But I mean, when I
was a player, I was a goal scorer, and I
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was very keenly aware that there was a difference between
a forward and a goal scorer. And you know, I
played professionally for a bit and I was capped with
the national team, and if I wasn't scoring, I knew
that that was my fault. And I know that these
players probably feel some of that weight right now. So
right now, it's really about clearing that mentally and getting
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focused on the job at hand and then executing, which
these players can do. So it's really about players just
getting back to what they do their best. And we
know that the officials and the Adamis and the Dolins
and the Radcliffs and the Monda Sears and I'm going
to miss somebody in Mercado, right we know that these
guys can can score because they were Yeah, so they
need to get back to what they've been doing well.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Absolutely, And only a couple of matches left before the
World Cup break, and you just know that they want
to break the strout before that break. You don't want
to go yeah, like you just know it. You just
know it.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Uh yeah, it just takes that extra bit of it's
going to take a little extra bit of focus, emergency,
it really is. And once, once, once there's a breakthrough,
I think you're going to see a bigger breakthrough.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yep, just keep pressuring, just keep you know, shoot shoot
shoot shoot, shoot shot shoot. The more you shoot, the
higher probability you are to score. Excuse my amazing socker
i Q right there. You know, the more you shoot,
the more you're good calling score and you appreciate it,
all right. Preview first for this match against Gotham, who
are defending NWSL champs. They caught fire at the end
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of the season last year, although we had a couple
of good results against them, considered notably towards the end
of the season, very very hard fought draw at Gotham,
and that was when they were firing on all cylinders.
This is a team that is loaded. They are absolutely loaded.
It's gonna be a tough one. They are sitting in
fifth right now, four three and two, but they have
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not lost in their last four matches, so they are
also on a hot streak. Let us be the end
of a hot streak. How about that, We're gonna end
their hot streak. What are your keys to this match
against Gotham, Laura.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I think we've been doing a lot of things well,
and of course hold back the scoring. We all know
that that's the elephant in the room against the team
like Gotham. You've got to know when your moments are
to go and get in the box and then of
course finish. But you have to also, on the on
the flip side, be able to contain their best players,
and there are there are many. There's a reason why
(24:08):
they won the championship last year, and they've returned many
of those players. So I think defensively, again, the reign
have been pretty solid, so it's really going to be
about picking the times to go forward and then in
those times, I think we got to go with a
little bit more speed, a little bit more urgency, and
be a little bit more calculated and how we do it.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
This might be one of those, not one of those matches,
but we've been talking about just the mental block that
these players probably have, but just in terms of they're
getting their tactically, the final execution just isn't there. At
a certain point, I almost feel like it doesn't even
matter the opponent for them mentally, like obviously watch the
tape plan for the team plan blah blah blah, but
(24:50):
it's really up to us. Frankly, That's how it feels.
A couple of more milestones I know shocker more milestones crazy.
Phoebe Mclarnan's next appearance will mark her one hundredth NWSL
regular season appearance, which is crazy. Congratulations to you, gratulation
with her. Sophia Huerta's next appearance will mark her one
(25:12):
hundredth rain FC regular season appearance, which makes her six
in club history. So congratulations to Sophia. It's crazy. I
she's been with the Rain for such a long time.
I still think of her sometimes as playing like Houston
because she started her career in Houston. She's got the
Rain for a really long time. So congratulations to you, Sophia.
And Claudia Dickie is three three saves, shy of reaching
(25:36):
two hundred regular season saves, which would make her thirteenth
overall in NWSL. Claudia Dickie, unbelievable. See we have. This
is such a talented team, guys, this is the Rain
are so talented. In Laura Harvey, we trust in Leslie Callamore.
We trust we will start scoring. I have absolutely no
(25:56):
doubt about it. Stick with us, stick with the Rain,
Come on out on five fifteen. It's gonna be really
really fun. World Cup buzz is a buzz and you
don't want to miss that. Womenfield is just electric right now.
Sounder's playing Wednesday, Rain playing Friday, and then the Sounder's
playing again over the weekend. I mean it's soccer and Seattle.
(26:17):
There's no better time to head out to Wumenfield. All right, guys,
we will be back next week with Rain Weekly back
to our normal time on Wednesday. Laura, thanks for joining
us again. Kellen, thank you, and we will be back
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