February 5, 2026 • 21 mins
Sports legend Bo Jackson sits down with Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain on Super Bowl Radio Row to talk about young multi-sport athletes, who he admires, his famous run in Seattle, college sports’ situation, not watching football now, and his health advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight to nine.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And Boo Jackson to the tunny head out in front,
and only one.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man the ten in easily can't run him down. He
had the angle, but Dan goes Boom and nobody catches
Boo touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He may not stop me, Takoma, He's gone Pointland.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He just went in mos Book and they ain't going
the Raiders into Fine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tell you what, when I heard we were having
this man on the radio show, I started getting really
excited because for guys like us in our fifties. By
the way, this guy is a absolute living legend, the
greatest athlete I ever saw ever in my life, just
sat down with us, bo Jackson with us here on
the radio show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Bow.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great to meet you. It's an honor to meet you.
Thank you for having me, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, we appreciate you coming over.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's funny Dick and I were talking off the air
that everybody of our age has their favorite Bow moments. Right,
We're both Seahawk fans, so we all remember running up
the tunnel, kingdome, climbing the wall, breaking.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The bat over your knee.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do you have a favorite moment, if there was one
Bo Jackson highlight that was on YouTube forever.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
What would you want that one highlight to be?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's pisching off HAIRL Reynolds throwing him out at home plate? Wow?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Why talk about that?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Because it was a bottom of the ninth and he
had a score, they would have won the game. And
I threw him out and we came back and beat
him by two. Score was like eleven to nine or
thirteen till eleven. And if he had a score, he
said the front knew. He said that he couldn't wait
till the newspaper come out. They would show Renolds scored
(01:39):
the winning rock. But instead it was a picture of
me the whole page, me standing there in instead the
throw and him on the ground slamming his help.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I love that. What'd you have more fun doing? Bro
football or baseball?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Picking up my paycheck?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
There you go. It didn't matter that they did.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Match first and fifteen fifteen first than f fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Both the paychecks were pretty good.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First in the fifteen, Yeah, it didn't matter because first
in the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Fifteen, Well, people think about you and they know the obvious,
which is only player to be an All star in
two sports in baseball and football. There's a lot of
specialization going on right now with these kids. They're not
playing multiple sports like Dick and I did you know, swimming, golf, football, basketball, baseball.
For all the kids out there and the parents of
kids out there that are not having their kids play
(02:33):
multiple sports, what would you say to them?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Stop being helicopter parents. They can't choose what their kids
want to be good at or play. Let them find
out on their own if they want to play baseball,
they don't play baseball, they want to play football, and
then I'll see them do that. They want to swim afterwards, taekwondo, soccer.
(02:57):
Let your kids be a kid. Don't live your life
through your kids, period, because we know with some kids
that only did that one thing and look how they
turned out. Quarterback back in the day from USC, Ye
(03:21):
happen to him, Yeah yeah, but I didn't want to
call any names. But that's what happened between you for
something on a kid and not let that kid be
a kid. And I would never do that. I didn't
do that to my kids now. I was a slave driver.
When it comes to their schooling, you gotta make good
grades or I'm gonna bust your ass. That's that's just
(03:44):
the bottom line. I don't care if you play sports.
I could care less if you play sports, but you
will get a proper education. You got four and a
half years to graduate COP then after that you're on
your own. And they all do that, all three and
they're doing well. They are this close to being off
the payroll, this close to being off the payroll. And
(04:08):
that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What other sports did you play growing up and were
there any other sports that you could have been professional
or Olympic leveling.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
My first love was track. I'm the state the Catalan
champion in my state two years in a row, and
I didn't run the mile. I chose to set the
mile out because my legs weren't meant to go over
two hundred yards. So wrestling. I wrestled in junior high
(04:40):
and I was undefeated until I got disqualified because I
was trying to I was trying to pin a guy
and he would pinch me. He pinched me on the balls.
Then I could let him go, so I told my coach.
I told my coach, and we were on the gym
floor and I led him up twice. I gave him
(05:05):
a point and I took him back down and got
two points, and I said, coach, if he pinched me again,
I'm gonna try to slam him through the floor to
the locker room called the locker rooms right there. And
he pinched me a third time. And if he hadn't
a tuck his head when I slammed him, I probably
broke his neck and killed him. Oh my god. So
I slammed him to the floor and he laid there
and went to no breath, and I just got took
(05:27):
my head and walked off the map.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wow. Well, Bo Jackson is whether I's here on radio
Row with the Super Bowl. And obviously you're a sports fan,
no question about that. We'll talk about your podcast in
a minute. But for the millions of people admire you,
no question still today who do you admire? Who do
you admire from years past? Or athletes today baseball, football, basketball, whatever?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Who do you admire that's playing maybe right now?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I admired when I played. Probably the two guys that
I like most was George Brett and Ken Griffin junior. Wow,
in today's era, I just say show hel Toney, yeah, shy,
because he is doing two things that nobody else has done.
(06:15):
In baseball, and he's very successful at it. So if
I had to go that, those are the three people.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know. You you ripped our Seahawks hot heart out
when you ran all over.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The bas made a lot of money out, made a
lot of money off of the state of Seattle.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah you did. When you think back, going into that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Game, all the hype was around bos versus bow, bos
versus bow.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Were you thinking about that? Were you thinking about the
Boss going into that game? Or you were just playing
football another game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm just playing football. I'm just playing football. See. I
was always taught speak with your actions, not with your mouth,
speak with you, so I just left talk. Actually, my
college teammates, my blocking fullback, was on the Seats team.
He backed up johnnyl Williams fullback Tommy ag Yes. Yes,
(07:07):
and he wore number thirty four.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And when I made that nine yard run down sideline,
I caught glimpse of him getting off the bench to
come and see me run. So I'm going this way,
I see number thirty four walks towfs side line. Because
he said leading up to that game, the defensive coordinator
just above the crap at him, what can we do
to stop your roommate. You you blocked for him for
four years. You know what gets under his skin with blocking?
(07:31):
And he said, I didn't want to tell him that
the harder you hit him, the harder he's gonna run. Run.
So I lied just to get him off my back
and said if you hit him hard early, he'll probably
stop running. Yeah, and that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Wow. Well, I got to ask you when you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Maybe it was like forty years ago now, whatever it
was when you got into that tunnel and the famous
line is that al Michael's right back, He's gonna go
to the coma or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You remember stopping in that tunnel.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You remember trying to catch yourself because that was that
you could have slipped in there.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, when you want. When you went in the tunnel,
you had about thirty yards to go and I ran
all the way down to almost touch the back wall
because I was running and I just needed that to stop.
Then I turned around and look and selle how my
teammates coming in the tunnel. Wow. Uh to congratulate James
fa the linebackers, yep, mark us. Everybody's running the tunnel. Yeah.
(08:25):
So we had a nice night that night.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's funny how that that moment scarred us for a while,
but now we're able to laugh at him. Yes, your
story here, but Bo Jackson's, I said, great advice for
parents and moms and dads out there.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
What about the current state of college football?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm thinking about a young Bo Jackson, how much money
he could have made an NIO money playing an Auburn
back in the day. What do you make right now
about the current state of college football?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Vote? If I was playing in this day and age,
I would have to take a pay cut to go
play with anybody in the NFL. And what's going on
young man Jim Gray over and and uh. But for
me personally, now this is me. I'm not speaking with
nobody else. This is me. I think what college has
(09:13):
done with the ni L, the NCAA has done with
the n L is that they have let the horses
out the bar and forgot the closure. That's right, period.
They let the horses out the bar and forgot the
close the gate. And now they can't close the gate
because they're running wide.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So how do you fix it now? Is it fixable?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I doubt it. I doubt it. But if I had
to fix it. First of all, I would get n
A L the n c A, set them in a row.
I said, these are some things that you gotta do
to fix this mess. Number One, if you sign a
(09:56):
kid to an NIL deal, there's gotta be rules. There
gotta be stipulations. They gotta sign a contract, just like
doing the pro. You can't do this. You can't do this.
Number one. If we're gonna pay you, we aren't gonna
give you a ton of money upfront. We're gonna put
it in on trust, and we're gonna give you a
monthly stock. Number two, In order for you to receive
(10:20):
these funds, you gotta finish your career where you started.
If you leave, those funds get cut off right then.
And when you make the announcement that you're gonna go
into the portal, you gotta lead in order to get
into the portal. You can't get into the portal after
your junior year, yeah period. And if you go, whatever
(10:42):
funds that are left, stay stayed with the university. We're
not gonna give you all this money. You're gonna go
somewhere else and make more and just continue to make more. No,
it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, is your beloved SEC in trouble. It's been a
few years now since they've reached the national championship game.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The talk is, Hey, the money's up in the Big
ten country and they're gonna continue to dominate in nil era.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
That's probably the case. I don't know, but you're not
going to get the recognition in the Big ten that
you get into SEC. Yeah. SEC is getting bigger. The
SEC is is a giant, even though I don't watch it,
but just knowing what I know, those little titbits, what
the SEC is too big? Is too big?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Bo Jackson's with us.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I can't say it enough how much we admire you,
and I hope that you'll appreciate and understand how many
people still look up to you for what you did
in your career. And just sitting here talking to you,
and you seem like you're an even better man than
you were a player. So I appreciate you coming over
and sitting down with us. But we got to ask
you about our Seahawks on Sunday. Right, we're going for
number two. Patriots have been here before, they've won. Tell
(11:47):
us what you think is gonna happen on Sunday who
do you like?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And why, Oh, I've said this, I don't watch it.
Why because it used to be my job. You watch
somebody to do what you do.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So, but the thing about it is that my wife
is the football net. So in order to keep her happy,
I lay across your bed while she's sitting in the
recliner and watch football. I have my iPad out, so
I'm watching anything that don't have to do with football,
(12:24):
but I'm listening. I'm listening, and I said, Babe, they're
gonna do this the next book. They're they're gonna run
this play, They're gonna throw the ball to this guy.
And so if they're gonna fake and they're gonna throw
and it happens to said, how do you know that?
And I said, you are you familiar with bodos? So
(12:47):
I joke with her like that. But me watching but
me watching football, it's too much of a it's too
much of a plan to plan. I played. We played
mass amount of football, and we played for four quarters.
You didn't celebrate till after the game was open. Too much,
So too much. Look at me, Hey, I just made
(13:09):
a tackle, So I'm gonna do my dance that's your job.
Act like you've been there. That's me. I'm old school.
It's a different erarant now. So some people will say
that I'm wrong for saying but I'm but I didn't
get to the Pro Bowl by dancing a gig every
(13:31):
time uch quarter touchdown or a first down. I let
my actions got me there, my football acts, not my
dance skills. So that's where I am with all of that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
We see on commercials all the time. What are you
doing down here at Media Row.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I'm promoting my new podcast that I'm about to do,
first one ever, called Bow Knows Men's Health and the
thing about I'll say this, and I'll ask the young
lady across your table put your phone down. All right, Women,
you and your girlfriends, you get together and you all
(14:12):
have a glass of wine, you said, and talk and
you all talk about your medical issues, your health issues.
You all talk about everything from you all talk of
everything from you talk about everything from hysterectomans to breast
cancer and just talk about it because that's what you do.
We as men, that's taboo. That's taboo if we talk
(14:36):
about that. There's something in our pea brains that make
us think that it makes us less of a man,
It makes us less of a lesser a make and
especially me, I'm proud to say that I'm three and
(14:56):
a half months cancer free. I had my I'll stay
taken out in October. My daughter got married in November.
I walked her down the aisle with no issues. Now myself,
first thing that our peap brain think about as men,
I'm having my prostate out all hell, my sex life
(15:18):
is over. That's full. They got stuff out there that
make Viagirl looks like a chump. I mean, and I'm
not saying that to be funny, but I'm serious. But
the thing about about it is that we don't talk
about those issues amongst each other. Yes, it's time to
(15:39):
peel the layers off of that onion. We don't talk
about prostate issues. We don't talk about incontinence, men have
breast cancer. We don't talk about our problems unless we're
in the doctor's office with that doctor with the door closed.
Most of the time, we don't talk about it with
our spouses or our kids until it's time to have surgery. Yeah.
(16:03):
So the thing that I want to do is help
guys out there, because most guys I guarantee you one
of you three is afraid to go get checked at
the doctor because you're afraid of what he's gonna tell you. Sure,
how are you gonna know what's going on with you
(16:23):
unless he tells you? And then you treat it because
because I'll tell you, Like this, cancer in mother Nature
are the only only two undefeated entities on this planet.
They're undefeated, and look at it this way. The only
way to treat it is to cut it out.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Now. I could have gotten an alternative medication for my prostate,
but that's selfish on my part. I have a four
year I have two sons and a daughter. I have
a four and a two year old grandson, and I
(17:06):
want to be around to watch them play the first
Little League game. I want to be hanging around the pool.
But they're taking their pool less so they're swimming lessons.
I want to be there when they go. I want
to be the one to take them to get their
driver's license. I got so much to lift my life.
I'm not living for me anymore. It's for people. It's
(17:27):
for my family, that my friends, and anybody out there
that I can use my platform. Or to tell take
your ass and get checked. Go catch your prostate check,
go catch your colon check. Hell. Last month I had
a probably my fifteenth colon osterby since I was twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Wow, good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And if I had them, if I had to ignore
the symptoms at twenty one, I know I wouldn't be
here because colon cancer runs in my family. Prostate cancer
runs in my family, and I know that I wouldn't
be here. Thank God that I got the insurance in
everything to go get that done. Now as far as
(18:08):
God say, hey that PSA and all that stuff costs money,
I don't have insurance. Well, what I'm also trying to
do is take my show on the road to different
cities with buddies that I played against, played with and
get them to get their local doctors to be guests
(18:28):
on my show. Now, in order to be a guest
on my show as a doctor, whatever we talk about
in your field, you got to give the people in
the audience that paid five to ten dollars to come
to this event, We're gonna take that money to help
pay for them to get a PSA test. Blood tests
(18:48):
do everything, but you got to give them a discount too,
because I'm giving you free marketing, and my marketing is
not for free, so you got to give something too.
To help your garbage man that picks up your garbage,
the old man in the supermarket that's bagging in your groceries,
help him get a PSA test because a lot of
guys don't know and what they don't know, and they
(19:12):
can't get help if they don't know. So that's my
job right now is to try to spread the word
because right after my surgery, I call guys I went,
I went to high school with, I got my entire
baseball team when I was at Aubus, got him on
a zoom call, told everybody, go get your stuff checked,
(19:34):
go get this job. And they both thank you. I
appreciate you doing this. Some of them say, hey, I
just find out I'm dealing with it, but I can't
talk to anybody. But I said, well, I'm gonna try
to fix that. I want to make it to where
we're not to where we're not afraid to talk about
our health issue because it doesn't make you weak, it
(19:59):
makes you strong. But go back to this people brain
that we as men have, we always thinking the wrong way, right,
So if I can use my platform to educate people
out there that don't know. Yes, damn it, that's what
I'm gonna do. Well, if bo says do it, it's
cool to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And I will just say this before you leave, because
we already have to edit a few things out before
you put us on the area.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You are the man, all right, and you're always going
to be the man. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I appreciate the message that you're spreading today is awesome.
But thank you for everything that you've done and and
on and off the field. I gotta tell you, I
don't get start struck very often. I am now sit
next to you, all right, so good, Thank you very much.
With the with the podcast Bodos Men's Health Podcast, check
out any help you need, We're always here for you.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Thank you very much. All right, both Jack, when I
come to Seattle, yes, come by the say set this
up to do a fire shot chat. Done well, we're doing.
Set it up at an auditorium. Done in order to
get in for you five or ten bucks. You pay
for whatever you want, and those funds are gonna go
into a fund that we're gonna leave in Seattle to
help guys who can't afford to get the test, to
(21:10):
get tests out.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're in this guy behind you, Jimmy, talk to him,
will figure it out, all right, got Bo, thanks for
doing this, man.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Thank you brother.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You've bet Bo Jackson. How about that with us on
the radio show. Unbelievable man. I mean, like I said,
I don't get starts struck very often. My god, that
was amazing Bo Jackson with us right here on ninety
three three KJRFL
Eight to nine.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
And Boo Jackson to the tunny head out in front,
and only one.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Man the ten in easily can't run him down. He
had the angle, but Dan goes Boom and nobody catches
Boo touchdown.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
He may not stop me, Takoma, He's gone Pointland.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
He just went in mos Book and they ain't going
the Raiders into Fine.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I tell you what, when I heard we were having
this man on the radio show, I started getting really
excited because for guys like us in our fifties. By
the way, this guy is a absolute living legend, the
greatest athlete I ever saw ever in my life, just
sat down with us, bo Jackson with us here on
the radio show.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Bow.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's great to meet you. It's an honor to meet you.
Thank you for having me, guys, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Well, we appreciate you coming over.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
It's funny Dick and I were talking off the air
that everybody of our age has their favorite Bow moments. Right,
We're both Seahawk fans, so we all remember running up
the tunnel, kingdome, climbing the wall, breaking.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
The bat over your knee.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Do you have a favorite moment, if there was one
Bo Jackson highlight that was on YouTube forever.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
What would you want that one highlight to be?
Speaker 3 (01:11):
It's pisching off HAIRL Reynolds throwing him out at home plate? Wow?
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Why talk about that?
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Because it was a bottom of the ninth and he
had a score, they would have won the game. And
I threw him out and we came back and beat
him by two. Score was like eleven to nine or
thirteen till eleven. And if he had a score, he
said the front knew. He said that he couldn't wait
till the newspaper come out. They would show Renolds scored
(01:39):
the winning rock. But instead it was a picture of
me the whole page, me standing there in instead the
throw and him on the ground slamming his help.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
I love that. What'd you have more fun doing? Bro
football or baseball?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Picking up my paycheck?
Speaker 1 (01:58):
There you go. It didn't matter that they did.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Match first and fifteen fifteen first than f fifteen.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Both the paychecks were pretty good.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
First in the fifteen, Yeah, it didn't matter because first
in the.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Fifteen, Well, people think about you and they know the obvious,
which is only player to be an All star in
two sports in baseball and football. There's a lot of
specialization going on right now with these kids. They're not
playing multiple sports like Dick and I did you know, swimming, golf, football, basketball, baseball.
For all the kids out there and the parents of
kids out there that are not having their kids play
(02:33):
multiple sports, what would you say to them?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Stop being helicopter parents. They can't choose what their kids
want to be good at or play. Let them find
out on their own if they want to play baseball,
they don't play baseball, they want to play football, and
then I'll see them do that. They want to swim afterwards, taekwondo, soccer.
(02:57):
Let your kids be a kid. Don't live your life
through your kids, period, because we know with some kids
that only did that one thing and look how they
turned out. Quarterback back in the day from USC, Ye
(03:21):
happen to him, Yeah yeah, but I didn't want to
call any names. But that's what happened between you for
something on a kid and not let that kid be
a kid. And I would never do that. I didn't
do that to my kids now. I was a slave driver.
When it comes to their schooling, you gotta make good
grades or I'm gonna bust your ass. That's that's just
(03:44):
the bottom line. I don't care if you play sports.
I could care less if you play sports, but you
will get a proper education. You got four and a
half years to graduate COP then after that you're on
your own. And they all do that, all three and
they're doing well. They are this close to being off
the payroll, this close to being off the payroll. And
(04:08):
that's what I do.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
What other sports did you play growing up and were
there any other sports that you could have been professional
or Olympic leveling.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
My first love was track. I'm the state the Catalan
champion in my state two years in a row, and
I didn't run the mile. I chose to set the
mile out because my legs weren't meant to go over
two hundred yards. So wrestling. I wrestled in junior high
(04:40):
and I was undefeated until I got disqualified because I
was trying to I was trying to pin a guy
and he would pinch me. He pinched me on the balls.
Then I could let him go, so I told my coach.
I told my coach, and we were on the gym
floor and I led him up twice. I gave him
(05:05):
a point and I took him back down and got
two points, and I said, coach, if he pinched me again,
I'm gonna try to slam him through the floor to
the locker room called the locker rooms right there. And
he pinched me a third time. And if he hadn't
a tuck his head when I slammed him, I probably
broke his neck and killed him. Oh my god. So
I slammed him to the floor and he laid there
and went to no breath, and I just got took
(05:27):
my head and walked off the map.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Wow. Well, Bo Jackson is whether I's here on radio
Row with the Super Bowl. And obviously you're a sports fan,
no question about that. We'll talk about your podcast in
a minute. But for the millions of people admire you,
no question still today who do you admire? Who do
you admire from years past? Or athletes today baseball, football, basketball, whatever?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Who do you admire that's playing maybe right now?
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I admired when I played. Probably the two guys that
I like most was George Brett and Ken Griffin junior. Wow,
in today's era, I just say show hel Toney, yeah, shy,
because he is doing two things that nobody else has done.
(06:15):
In baseball, and he's very successful at it. So if
I had to go that, those are the three people.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
You know. You you ripped our Seahawks hot heart out
when you ran all over.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The bas made a lot of money out, made a
lot of money off of the state of Seattle.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Yeah you did. When you think back, going into that.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Game, all the hype was around bos versus bow, bos
versus bow.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Were you thinking about that? Were you thinking about the
Boss going into that game? Or you were just playing
football another game.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I'm just playing football. I'm just playing football. See. I
was always taught speak with your actions, not with your mouth,
speak with you, so I just left talk. Actually, my
college teammates, my blocking fullback, was on the Seats team.
He backed up johnnyl Williams fullback Tommy ag Yes. Yes,
(07:07):
and he wore number thirty four.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
And when I made that nine yard run down sideline,
I caught glimpse of him getting off the bench to
come and see me run. So I'm going this way,
I see number thirty four walks towfs side line. Because
he said leading up to that game, the defensive coordinator
just above the crap at him, what can we do
to stop your roommate. You you blocked for him for
four years. You know what gets under his skin with blocking?
(07:31):
And he said, I didn't want to tell him that
the harder you hit him, the harder he's gonna run. Run.
So I lied just to get him off my back
and said if you hit him hard early, he'll probably
stop running. Yeah, and that wasn't the case.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Wow. Well, I got to ask you when you got it.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Maybe it was like forty years ago now, whatever it
was when you got into that tunnel and the famous
line is that al Michael's right back, He's gonna go
to the coma or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
You remember stopping in that tunnel.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
You remember trying to catch yourself because that was that
you could have slipped in there.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
No, when you want. When you went in the tunnel,
you had about thirty yards to go and I ran
all the way down to almost touch the back wall
because I was running and I just needed that to stop.
Then I turned around and look and selle how my
teammates coming in the tunnel. Wow. Uh to congratulate James
fa the linebackers, yep, mark us. Everybody's running the tunnel. Yeah.
(08:25):
So we had a nice night that night.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
It's funny how that that moment scarred us for a while,
but now we're able to laugh at him. Yes, your
story here, but Bo Jackson's, I said, great advice for
parents and moms and dads out there.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
What about the current state of college football?
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm thinking about a young Bo Jackson, how much money
he could have made an NIO money playing an Auburn
back in the day. What do you make right now
about the current state of college football?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Vote? If I was playing in this day and age,
I would have to take a pay cut to go
play with anybody in the NFL. And what's going on
young man Jim Gray over and and uh. But for
me personally, now this is me. I'm not speaking with
nobody else. This is me. I think what college has
(09:13):
done with the ni L, the NCAA has done with
the n L is that they have let the horses
out the bar and forgot the closure. That's right, period.
They let the horses out the bar and forgot the
close the gate. And now they can't close the gate
because they're running wide.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
So how do you fix it now? Is it fixable?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
I doubt it. I doubt it. But if I had
to fix it. First of all, I would get n
A L the n c A, set them in a row.
I said, these are some things that you gotta do
to fix this mess. Number One, if you sign a
(09:56):
kid to an NIL deal, there's gotta be rules. There
gotta be stipulations. They gotta sign a contract, just like
doing the pro. You can't do this. You can't do this.
Number one. If we're gonna pay you, we aren't gonna
give you a ton of money upfront. We're gonna put
it in on trust, and we're gonna give you a
monthly stock. Number two, In order for you to receive
(10:20):
these funds, you gotta finish your career where you started.
If you leave, those funds get cut off right then.
And when you make the announcement that you're gonna go
into the portal, you gotta lead in order to get
into the portal. You can't get into the portal after
your junior year, yeah period. And if you go, whatever
(10:42):
funds that are left, stay stayed with the university. We're
not gonna give you all this money. You're gonna go
somewhere else and make more and just continue to make more. No,
it doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Well, is your beloved SEC in trouble. It's been a
few years now since they've reached the national championship game.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
The talk is, Hey, the money's up in the Big
ten country and they're gonna continue to dominate in nil era.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
That's probably the case. I don't know, but you're not
going to get the recognition in the Big ten that
you get into SEC. Yeah. SEC is getting bigger. The
SEC is is a giant, even though I don't watch it,
but just knowing what I know, those little titbits, what
the SEC is too big? Is too big?
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, Bo Jackson's with us.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
I can't say it enough how much we admire you,
and I hope that you'll appreciate and understand how many
people still look up to you for what you did
in your career. And just sitting here talking to you,
and you seem like you're an even better man than
you were a player. So I appreciate you coming over
and sitting down with us. But we got to ask
you about our Seahawks on Sunday. Right, we're going for
number two. Patriots have been here before, they've won. Tell
(11:47):
us what you think is gonna happen on Sunday who
do you like?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And why, Oh, I've said this, I don't watch it.
Why because it used to be my job. You watch
somebody to do what you do.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
So, but the thing about it is that my wife
is the football net. So in order to keep her happy,
I lay across your bed while she's sitting in the
recliner and watch football. I have my iPad out, so
I'm watching anything that don't have to do with football,
(12:24):
but I'm listening. I'm listening, and I said, Babe, they're
gonna do this the next book. They're they're gonna run
this play, They're gonna throw the ball to this guy.
And so if they're gonna fake and they're gonna throw
and it happens to said, how do you know that?
And I said, you are you familiar with bodos? So
(12:47):
I joke with her like that. But me watching but
me watching football, it's too much of a it's too
much of a plan to plan. I played. We played
mass amount of football, and we played for four quarters.
You didn't celebrate till after the game was open. Too much,
So too much. Look at me, Hey, I just made
(13:09):
a tackle, So I'm gonna do my dance that's your job.
Act like you've been there. That's me. I'm old school.
It's a different erarant now. So some people will say
that I'm wrong for saying but I'm but I didn't
get to the Pro Bowl by dancing a gig every
(13:31):
time uch quarter touchdown or a first down. I let
my actions got me there, my football acts, not my
dance skills. So that's where I am with all of that.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
We see on commercials all the time. What are you
doing down here at Media Row.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
I'm promoting my new podcast that I'm about to do,
first one ever, called Bow Knows Men's Health and the
thing about I'll say this, and I'll ask the young
lady across your table put your phone down. All right, Women,
you and your girlfriends, you get together and you all
(14:12):
have a glass of wine, you said, and talk and
you all talk about your medical issues, your health issues.
You all talk about everything from you all talk of
everything from you talk about everything from hysterectomans to breast
cancer and just talk about it because that's what you do.
We as men, that's taboo. That's taboo if we talk
(14:36):
about that. There's something in our pea brains that make
us think that it makes us less of a man,
It makes us less of a lesser a make and
especially me, I'm proud to say that I'm three and
(14:56):
a half months cancer free. I had my I'll stay
taken out in October. My daughter got married in November.
I walked her down the aisle with no issues. Now myself,
first thing that our peap brain think about as men,
I'm having my prostate out all hell, my sex life
(15:18):
is over. That's full. They got stuff out there that
make Viagirl looks like a chump. I mean, and I'm
not saying that to be funny, but I'm serious. But
the thing about about it is that we don't talk
about those issues amongst each other. Yes, it's time to
(15:39):
peel the layers off of that onion. We don't talk
about prostate issues. We don't talk about incontinence, men have
breast cancer. We don't talk about our problems unless we're
in the doctor's office with that doctor with the door closed.
Most of the time, we don't talk about it with
our spouses or our kids until it's time to have surgery. Yeah.
(16:03):
So the thing that I want to do is help
guys out there, because most guys I guarantee you one
of you three is afraid to go get checked at
the doctor because you're afraid of what he's gonna tell you. Sure,
how are you gonna know what's going on with you
(16:23):
unless he tells you? And then you treat it because
because I'll tell you, Like this, cancer in mother Nature
are the only only two undefeated entities on this planet.
They're undefeated, and look at it this way. The only
way to treat it is to cut it out.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
That's right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Now. I could have gotten an alternative medication for my prostate,
but that's selfish on my part. I have a four
year I have two sons and a daughter. I have
a four and a two year old grandson, and I
(17:06):
want to be around to watch them play the first
Little League game. I want to be hanging around the pool.
But they're taking their pool less so they're swimming lessons.
I want to be there when they go. I want
to be the one to take them to get their
driver's license. I got so much to lift my life.
I'm not living for me anymore. It's for people. It's
(17:27):
for my family, that my friends, and anybody out there
that I can use my platform. Or to tell take
your ass and get checked. Go catch your prostate check,
go catch your colon check. Hell. Last month I had
a probably my fifteenth colon osterby since I was twenty one.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Wow, good for you.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
And if I had them, if I had to ignore
the symptoms at twenty one, I know I wouldn't be
here because colon cancer runs in my family. Prostate cancer
runs in my family, and I know that I wouldn't
be here. Thank God that I got the insurance in
everything to go get that done. Now as far as
(18:08):
God say, hey that PSA and all that stuff costs money,
I don't have insurance. Well, what I'm also trying to
do is take my show on the road to different
cities with buddies that I played against, played with and
get them to get their local doctors to be guests
(18:28):
on my show. Now, in order to be a guest
on my show as a doctor, whatever we talk about
in your field, you got to give the people in
the audience that paid five to ten dollars to come
to this event, We're gonna take that money to help
pay for them to get a PSA test. Blood tests
(18:48):
do everything, but you got to give them a discount too,
because I'm giving you free marketing, and my marketing is
not for free, so you got to give something too.
To help your garbage man that picks up your garbage,
the old man in the supermarket that's bagging in your groceries,
help him get a PSA test because a lot of
guys don't know and what they don't know, and they
(19:12):
can't get help if they don't know. So that's my
job right now is to try to spread the word
because right after my surgery, I call guys I went,
I went to high school with, I got my entire
baseball team when I was at Aubus, got him on
a zoom call, told everybody, go get your stuff checked,
(19:34):
go get this job. And they both thank you. I
appreciate you doing this. Some of them say, hey, I
just find out I'm dealing with it, but I can't
talk to anybody. But I said, well, I'm gonna try
to fix that. I want to make it to where
we're not to where we're not afraid to talk about
our health issue because it doesn't make you weak, it
(19:59):
makes you strong. But go back to this people brain
that we as men have, we always thinking the wrong way, right,
So if I can use my platform to educate people
out there that don't know. Yes, damn it, that's what
I'm gonna do. Well, if bo says do it, it's
cool to do it.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
And I will just say this before you leave, because
we already have to edit a few things out before
you put us on the area.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
You are the man, all right, and you're always going
to be the man. Thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I appreciate the message that you're spreading today is awesome.
But thank you for everything that you've done and and
on and off the field. I gotta tell you, I
don't get start struck very often. I am now sit
next to you, all right, so good, Thank you very much.
With the with the podcast Bodos Men's Health Podcast, check
out any help you need, We're always here for you.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Thank you very much. All right, both Jack, when I
come to Seattle, yes, come by the say set this
up to do a fire shot chat. Done well, we're doing.
Set it up at an auditorium. Done in order to
get in for you five or ten bucks. You pay
for whatever you want, and those funds are gonna go
into a fund that we're gonna leave in Seattle to
help guys who can't afford to get the test, to
(21:10):
get tests out.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
We're in this guy behind you, Jimmy, talk to him,
will figure it out, all right, got Bo, thanks for
doing this, man.
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Thank you brother.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
You've bet Bo Jackson. How about that with us on
the radio show. Unbelievable man. I mean, like I said,
I don't get starts struck very often. My god, that
was amazing Bo Jackson with us right here on ninety
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