November 1, 2024 • 19 mins
Bret Boone, former Mariners All Star, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss the World Series coming to an end thanks to a handful of Yankees mistakes in the fifth inning, the future for Juan Soto and if it’s in New York, plus Freddie Freeman’s big run.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The World Series is over, Baseball Season's over. We know
who Brett Boone was rooting for. He was pulling for
the Dodgers all the way. He cannot stand the manager
of the Yankees thinks the guys are putts. No man,
he was rooting hard for his brother, Aaron Boone, manager
of the Yankees. And you may have heard of his
brother who does a show with us every week courtesy
of Venue Kings dot com. Brett Boone with us here
(00:22):
to kind of recap the World Series and talk about
the MS offseason. Boone, how are you pal?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not much, man, not much? Yeah, rough ending for Yankee
fans for sure, not so much for Dodger fans. But
I don't know. Give me your take as a guy
that was rooting for his brother as the manager of
the Yankees, would you think of what you saw in
Game five and in particular that horrific fifth inning man
for Garrett Cole and his defense.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'll tell you what I mean. Doing this and being
a part of the media and covering the season in
its entirety, you know, it's pretty easy for me to
separate Aaron Yankees and be pretty you know, honest in
the evaluate. You get to the World Series, though, and
there is a side of me like, all right, you
got here, let's go. So I turned from you know,
(01:13):
I still got to tell it like it is. But man,
I was rooting four whiles happy for him. He got
there the way it started, you know, with the heartbreaking
Game one, and then you get to Game four, and
it seemed it was all Dodgers. As matter of fact,
since Game four in the National League in the play
in that playoff picture, Game four with the Podres, and
I thought the Padres were a better team than the
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Dodgers this year, I really did. And the Dodgers seemed
to somehow flip a switch and they and they beat
them in Game four, and they made it to too
then they beat the Padres. Ever since then, I think
watching all the teams in this postseason, the Dodgers have
been the best team. They up their game, the bottom
half of their lineup really came through, picked up a
(01:55):
lot of the slack. And then you get to the
World Series, the heartbreak one. You look at these two
teams are pretty equally matched. I gave the advantage starting
pitching to the Yankees. That ended up being the other
way around, with the exception Garrett Cole, but offensively they
were pretty equal. I thought the Dodgers lineup was a
little bit longer, but I couldn't discount the fact either
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the Dodgers were playing better than anybody else in the postseason.
You get to Game four, your backs against the wall.
I've been there nineteen ninety nine. I was there with
the Braves down three zero. We ended up getting swept
by that Yankee team that year, but Game four was different.
Yankees came out swinging, bottom half of their lineup, picked up,
Judge finally got a hit. There were so many positive
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things that kind of flipped the script that they went
home and now all of a sudden, they're packing their games.
If they win Game five, they're headed back to LA.
They come out banging. It's five nothing, You got your
ace on the hill, and I'm thinking they're gonna make
a They're gonna make a run at this. At least
get it to Game six is not gonna be easy.
In Game seven, you know that's still really distant, but
(03:00):
I'm thinking, well, we're gonna we're gonna get another night
of baseball. And then that fifth in comes and it
starts with the Judge thing this. I could go out
there today hit Aaron Judge one thousand fungos replicating that flyball,
and he would not miss one. He wouldn't catch nine
hundred ninety nine, he'd catch a thousand. So the fact
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he dropped that ball is is like a fluke. So
that happens. Okay, you know Cole is he had plus
plus stuff. He'll get out of this. And then all
of a sudden you have the and and I love Volpe.
He's twenty three years old. I think he's going to
be a really I think he's going to be a
really good player. Uh he's plus defensively, the only the
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only na knock I have on and we were all
like that when you're twenty three years old. Sometimes he
plays a little bit recklessly, makes a great play and
the whole easy force at third and he spikes the
ball into the ground. Now that's air number two and
then the third one. Those are physical errors that those happen.
But I'm still thinking Cole's going to get out of this.
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And he punches out o' time he gets the squibber.
It's like I saw it in slow motion. I saw
the squibber I know it wasn't a normal ground ball,
so I think Rizzo's got to be real careful to
make sure he feels this because it's spinning like a
top coming down there to first base easily get kick
off your glove with the spin. He stays back, he
makes the play, and then I see Cole not cover
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and I'm going, what is going on? And there's it
doesn't matter PfP one oh one. You do it in
spring training every year ever since you become a professional,
and probably before that, you go to first base. You
don't assume anything. Then that happens. Boom, next thing you know,
it's five to five, and that whole script that they
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had flipped the day before becomes now we're neck and neck,
and we all saw how it played out. Freddie Freeman
wins the MVP had an unbelievable series. He talked at
length about those five days off in between the NLCS
and the World Series, how that did a world of
good for him. He was able to get back on
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that foot and work on a stroke and ended up
having an unbelievable World Series. I think in the end
we talked about this postseason. I love it. I don't
know about you guys. I love it. It's long, it's
a month, twelve teams never know what's going to happen.
But I think this year the Yankees best record in
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the American League over one hundred and sixty two, they
were in the World Series. Dodgers' best record overall, they
were in the World Series. Logic would say the formula worked.
And I think in the end, as much as I
wanted those Yankees to make it to Game six and
make a series out of it, I think the best
team won. And that's my wrap.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I love it. I love it that Coldplay totally agree.
He's got to sprint over there and cover first, and
Brett Boone's joining us. What I was thinking Brett, though,
is I don't think and I've watched that. I rewound
it all one hundred times, and I'm like, I don't
think Cole could beat him, But I do think Rizzo
could have beaten Mookie to the bag. Do you agree
(06:09):
with those two things there?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, it depends if Cole is off the mound and
Bam thinking go to first. Yeah, I think he can
beat him, but he didn't. There was a delay. I
think Rizzo was making sure he fielded the ground ball
and just assuming the picture will be there, because if
you look at Rizzo and you watch him over a
big sample size, Rizzo rarely pulls that foot race to
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the back. Rarely. He's kind of known for flipping the
ball to the picture. And it was just one of
those things where it's kind of a mental thing where
Cole's so frustrated with that inning and how it unfolded.
I mean, I was watching him. He had he had
Garrett Cole stuck, but he was throwing him heaters, hittable heaters,
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but they couldn't get to it because it was Cole
and he was just on top of it. That's what
an ace is. The one thing there was a lot
made about this, and in our day, you guys know,
if we've got a Randy Johnson, and I'm talking about
a prototypical number one ace, you go into the World
Series and there's nowhere to go but that you got
all winner to rest and a Randy Johnson, a shilling
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of Madison Bumgardner. You're always going game one. Hey, if
you need me on there, game four so I can
pitch Game seven. Nothing was discussed about that with Cole.
I didn't hear anything about it. In Game four, I
think he was not even in the bullpen down three.
So he was getting a little bit of criticism back
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in New York for really not being available. I mean,
he was, to me, the only true ace in the
postseason and he wasn't there. But I'll tell you after
that fifth inning, you could see it on his face.
He was he was rolling. He knew he was on
his game. They weren't going to touch him that night.
And then all of a sudden, the way it rolled
out the end of the fifth inning, I saw a
different demeanor in his face, like he went from I'm
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in control. These guys can't touch me today if I
keep doing this too, what just happened? And now I'm pissed.
And I was really interested to see how that would
come out. I was getting people texting me and I said,
and I think I said, well, this is a time
where he's Garrett Cole and as a skipper, you go, Garrett,
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what do you got? Can you go on? Was that
too much? Emotionally?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I was one of those guys texting you saying get
it out of here right off?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He was it. I said, this is a time, this
is almost a gratty little moment in three in the
end got gratty little fired. But what you do to
your ace of aces and Cole is that you go
to him and say, hey, big boy, what do you got.
I know that was an emotional leting are you ready?
And I think that conversation went on and it was
basically I've seen these happen before. Garrett Cole said, probably
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to my brother, listen, Boonie, this is my game. I
got it. And he went out there pitted, sick, came
out for the seventh. So that showed me a lot
about Gerret Cole in the in that moment that being
said that the damage was done, and then it was
just I mean, you're down. You're down three to zero. Uh,
no one's ever done it in the history of baseball
(09:15):
in the World Series. So your backs as far against
the wall. You win one, man, you got a little adrenaline,
you're playing better. You come out to a five o leitch.
You still got to get get the game in six
and seven. But you know, it would be a borderline
miracle to come back and win that butt man, it
would have been interesting. Yeah, you know, I I know
as a player what I'd be thinking. I'd be thinking,
all right, we're sticking it to them. We're going to LA.
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I packed my bags this morning. I didn't know, and
then all of a sudden, we ain't going to LA.
And uh, it was a tough way to end it.
But you look at that Yankee team, and I mentioned
at the top, I think they were the best team
this year in the AL record proves that out. But
in the end, I watched this team all year and
they shot themselves in the foot a lot of times
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by just playing sloppily. And I'm talking from little miscues
defensively to probably led the league in base running blunders.
And I think in the end it kind of sank
their ship. And it was too bad to see them
go out that way. It would have been much better
to play a clean, clean game and if they lost
in Game six, they lost in Game six. To go
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out that way, it was tough. I know it was
tough with my brother. I haven't talked to him yet.
I sent him a couple of texts. But that's baseball,
and that's what makes baseball unbelievable. You just never ever know.
And I try to break this down and I try
to give you a winner and tell you why and
why not, and a lot of the times I'm just
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throwing my paperwork up in the air going I got
no clute. Yeah, just like everybody else, you can't. There's
no rhyme or reason. But I think, once again, I
think congratulations of that Dodger team, and I think in
the end they proved that they were the best team.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
In twenty twenty four, Bret Boone's with us for a
few more minutes on the radio show. His brother obviously
was managing the Yankees in the in the world serious,
so we thought we'd check in with the family, see
how they're doing after losing to La and in five games.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean, I think we all agree. Falling down three
and nothing, the thing was over. But I'm just kind
of hoping for something to do tonight. Now I gotta
go home and watch San Diego State and Boise State.
I was hoping to watch some baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, you know, you know what, it saved me
a little bit. On the positive side.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It saved me a lot of headaches that I would
have had for all the people because it's you know,
I'm in San Diego in LA going up I.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Was planning on taking Dad up there, but I was
getting the you know, I was getting the text hepe Brett,
what's the chance of me getting a hold of one
extra ticket? Where am I on the pecking list? And
I had to I had to stock answer, Yeah, it
was your number seventy two. There you go, There I go,
and I might have eight tickets. So yeah, God save
me a little bit of a headache. But I no,
I wish I would have had the headache.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, let me, Brett, let me ask you one more
of the Yankees before we get to the news of
the day with the Mariners and and prolong moving on.
But Juan Soto. You know, look, he turned down a
twelve year, four hundred and forty million dollar deal two
years ago for thirty million, and he played his cards
right because he'll be getting more than that now on
the open market. I mean, I'm seeing like minimum five
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hundred mil. I saw the Post at a story today
where they're talking about maybe seventy million a year for Sodo.
I mean, obviously the ems the Mariners would be out
either way. There's no way they're dipping their toe in
that water. But what do you think one Soto does.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well. I think Juan Soto had an unbelievable year and
for a young for a twenty five year old man,
I think he did an unbelievable job answering the questions.
From a business perspective, it's like, obviously he loves his
year in New York playing in the Bronx, having that
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level of success, Why wouldn't you, why would you want
to play anywhere else? But he didn't give that to
the reporters. He said, Hey, I'm here, I'm having a
great time, I'm having a great year. I love my teammates,
i love this place. But I've earned the right to
be a free agent and I'm going to test that market.
And I think it wasn't wasn't offensive at the same time,
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it was business one on one. I mean, I think
Boris is sitting there going, that's perfect how he played that.
I think he wants to go back to the Yankees,
but I think he was instructed not to allude to that,
which is smart from a business standpoint, it's genius. So
I think he handled it well. I think he wants
to come back to the Yankees. That being said, he's
going to test the market and see how much they'll
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pay with kind of a It was a perfect storm.
I mean how he played down the stretch and just
his year in total, you couldn't have done it any better.
And to be in this situation, he's by far the
cream and the crop offensively as far as as far
as free agents go. So you're going to see teams
like the Dodgers. I think the biggest and the biggest
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competition for the Yanks are going to be the Mets.
I think Colin's over there going we're probably gonna lose
Pee Alonzo, and he's proven that he'll he'll throw money around,
so I think that I think the Mets are going
to be the biggest competition for New York. I think
Soto's proven he loves playing in New York. He's just
gonna move down the street a little bit and play
play for the Mets if that happens. As far as
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the money, uh, the market always every market's different. Last year,
after Yamamoto and after Show Hey Otana, you saw that
the money kind of dried up and those big free
agents didn't get the money they thought they were gonna get.
There's still a lot of question marks out there with
the TV deal for Major League Baseball. But I think,
just like last year, I think he's the Otani of
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this year's free agent class. I think he's gonna get
his money. What that number is the market's gonna bear.
I don't know. Seven hundred, No, nobody's touching show Hey.
I mean, think of what sho Hey did offensively, and
now you're gonna he's the number one or number two
starter on a world championship quality. How do you match that?
There's nobody out there with the said except for him.
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So I think he set the bar at seven hundred. Yes,
it's deferred, but it's still seven hundred. I think you're
looking more and noan boris he's gonna want to the
next biggest deal for a non show pe who put
him in the corner. He's a unicorn who's the best
player and has gotten the most money Mike Trout yep,
So I think in that's the first that's the first
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number is we're going to be higher than Trout's number.
And I don't know exactly what Trout's number is. I
think it's in the four hundreds, right around four hundred.
So I think five hundred realistic, but you're going six
to seven hundred. I mean, come on, you're you're basically
paying for one of the great offensive players of the game,
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pretty mediocre defensively, and for me, he's probably below average defensively.
You price it out and you look out in the future.
Is Juan Soda still playing right field in six seven years?
He's probably turned into eh. So, now you're paying a
DHI fifty sixty million year. I think that's a little much.
One thing he's got going well, a lot of things
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going for him, But he's twenty five years old, right,
so they're gonna be able to stretch that contract out.
It doesn't have to be an eight or a nine
year deal. It could be a twelve or thirteen year deal.
I think that's what you're gonna see. I think that
numbers right around five hundred is the sweet spot. No
one's ever done it, with the exception once again, I'm
show hey who in my opinion doesn't count because nobody's
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like him. But I think that for the normal big
league superstars, I think he's gonna set a record, and
I think it's gonna be right around five.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Brett. Did Freddy Freeman punch his ticket to Cooperstown last week,
and was that the best World Series performance you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'll tell you what. It was pretty awesome. And just
to keep rolling, he did it. You know, it's tough
to say, Oh yeah, four World Series ago. He hit
a home run in the last two, so it's six straight.
Well it is six straight, but just to hit four
straight and just to win he hit him. They were huge.
Every one of them was a huge home run. Some
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one ended the game, the other two just kind of wow,
sealed the deal. So I think what he did, yeah,
it definitely edged him closer. Yep, he's on that path.
I can't sit here. I've watched this Hall of Fame.
I watched people that I can't believe aren't in, and
then some guys that got in early. I didn't you know.
That shocked me that they got in that early. So
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I'll never say one hundred percent, but everything's pointing in
the direction that, Yeah, Freddie Freeman's going to be a
Hall of Famer one day when it's all said.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Hey Booney, before you go, Bret Boone got about a
minute left here. Mariner is declining the twelve and a
half million dollar club option on Jorge Polonko today. Not surprised,
I guess from my perspective, But would there be any
part of you that would even have considered picking that up?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Or was this a no brainer by the team? I
think it's a no brainer. I think you turned the
page on that and you go in a different direction.
I've heard a little talk about it. I don't know
for sure, but I think that Alonso is going to
be out there, and I think Alonso should be the
main target. I think he's, you know, other than Soto,
he's the biggest guy on the board. I said it
a year ago, where are you going to replace one
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hundred RBIs with Ti, Oscar and Nandez. I know everybody's
worried about the strikeouts. I'll tell you what. He went
to LA and did an unbelievable job again, and if
it weren't for the big guys, he's right there in
that MVP voting this year, He's probably still going to
be a top ten. What's wrong with bringing him back?
I like him, I like his production. I don't know
if Seattle's interested in that, but I see going in
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that direction a little bit more. You've got to address
second base. Second base since Canos left has been a
real juggernaut for the Seattle Mariners. They haven't found that
right fit, and I think they're going to use some
money to go do that. But I think you've really
got to get on the board. You got to land
at least one big guy I'd love to see too.
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We talked about it earlier. You know, if it takes
a point where it's got to be a trade for
a big time player, he might have to park with
one of your starting your five guys you got in rotation.
I think the marriage at this point could give up
one of them still be a great team if it
means in return we're getting two big time players on
the offensive side of the ball. So it'll be interesting.
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But I think the Polanco choice was a prudent one
and I think they did a good job of that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All right, man, great stuff, enjoy the offseason, looking forward
to the podcast over the Winner and we'll talk very soon.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Appreciate it, Panks, Brett, you got it, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, Brett Boone. With us wrapping up the baseball season,
we're gonna break. Hugh Mellin's going to join at five
o'clock tonight. Got a lot more to get to on
a busy Friday. Seahawks Rams injury report out and not
necessarily great for the Hawks. We'll get to that coming
up on ninety three to three kJ A RFM
The World Series is over, Baseball Season's over. We know
who Brett Boone was rooting for. He was pulling for
the Dodgers all the way. He cannot stand the manager
of the Yankees thinks the guys are putts. No man,
he was rooting hard for his brother, Aaron Boone, manager
of the Yankees. And you may have heard of his
brother who does a show with us every week courtesy
of Venue Kings dot com. Brett Boone with us here
(00:22):
to kind of recap the World Series and talk about
the MS offseason. Boone, how are you pal?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Not much, man, not much? Yeah, rough ending for Yankee
fans for sure, not so much for Dodger fans. But
I don't know. Give me your take as a guy
that was rooting for his brother as the manager of
the Yankees, would you think of what you saw in
Game five and in particular that horrific fifth inning man
for Garrett Cole and his defense.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'll tell you what I mean. Doing this and being
a part of the media and covering the season in
its entirety, you know, it's pretty easy for me to
separate Aaron Yankees and be pretty you know, honest in
the evaluate. You get to the World Series, though, and
there is a side of me like, all right, you
got here, let's go. So I turned from you know,
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I still got to tell it like it is. But man,
I was rooting four whiles happy for him. He got
there the way it started, you know, with the heartbreaking
Game one, and then you get to Game four, and
it seemed it was all Dodgers. As matter of fact,
since Game four in the National League in the play
in that playoff picture, Game four with the Podres, and
I thought the Padres were a better team than the
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Dodgers this year, I really did. And the Dodgers seemed
to somehow flip a switch and they and they beat
them in Game four, and they made it to too
then they beat the Padres. Ever since then, I think
watching all the teams in this postseason, the Dodgers have
been the best team. They up their game, the bottom
half of their lineup really came through, picked up a
(01:55):
lot of the slack. And then you get to the
World Series, the heartbreak one. You look at these two
teams are pretty equally matched. I gave the advantage starting
pitching to the Yankees. That ended up being the other
way around, with the exception Garrett Cole, but offensively they
were pretty equal. I thought the Dodgers lineup was a
little bit longer, but I couldn't discount the fact either
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the Dodgers were playing better than anybody else in the postseason.
You get to Game four, your backs against the wall.
I've been there nineteen ninety nine. I was there with
the Braves down three zero. We ended up getting swept
by that Yankee team that year, but Game four was different.
Yankees came out swinging, bottom half of their lineup, picked up,
Judge finally got a hit. There were so many positive
(02:38):
things that kind of flipped the script that they went
home and now all of a sudden, they're packing their games.
If they win Game five, they're headed back to LA.
They come out banging. It's five nothing, You got your
ace on the hill, and I'm thinking they're gonna make
a They're gonna make a run at this. At least
get it to Game six is not gonna be easy.
In Game seven, you know that's still really distant, but
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I'm thinking, well, we're gonna we're gonna get another night
of baseball. And then that fifth in comes and it
starts with the Judge thing this. I could go out
there today hit Aaron Judge one thousand fungos replicating that flyball,
and he would not miss one. He wouldn't catch nine
hundred ninety nine, he'd catch a thousand. So the fact
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he dropped that ball is is like a fluke. So
that happens. Okay, you know Cole is he had plus
plus stuff. He'll get out of this. And then all
of a sudden you have the and and I love Volpe.
He's twenty three years old. I think he's going to
be a really I think he's going to be a
really good player. Uh he's plus defensively, the only the
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only na knock I have on and we were all
like that when you're twenty three years old. Sometimes he
plays a little bit recklessly, makes a great play and
the whole easy force at third and he spikes the
ball into the ground. Now that's air number two and
then the third one. Those are physical errors that those happen.
But I'm still thinking Cole's going to get out of this.
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And he punches out o' time he gets the squibber.
It's like I saw it in slow motion. I saw
the squibber I know it wasn't a normal ground ball,
so I think Rizzo's got to be real careful to
make sure he feels this because it's spinning like a
top coming down there to first base easily get kick
off your glove with the spin. He stays back, he
makes the play, and then I see Cole not cover
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and I'm going, what is going on? And there's it
doesn't matter PfP one oh one. You do it in
spring training every year ever since you become a professional,
and probably before that, you go to first base. You
don't assume anything. Then that happens. Boom, next thing you know,
it's five to five, and that whole script that they
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had flipped the day before becomes now we're neck and neck,
and we all saw how it played out. Freddie Freeman
wins the MVP had an unbelievable series. He talked at
length about those five days off in between the NLCS
and the World Series, how that did a world of
good for him. He was able to get back on
(05:07):
that foot and work on a stroke and ended up
having an unbelievable World Series. I think in the end
we talked about this postseason. I love it. I don't
know about you guys. I love it. It's long, it's
a month, twelve teams never know what's going to happen.
But I think this year the Yankees best record in
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the American League over one hundred and sixty two, they
were in the World Series. Dodgers' best record overall, they
were in the World Series. Logic would say the formula worked.
And I think in the end, as much as I
wanted those Yankees to make it to Game six and
make a series out of it, I think the best
team won. And that's my wrap.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I love it. I love it that Coldplay totally agree.
He's got to sprint over there and cover first, and
Brett Boone's joining us. What I was thinking Brett, though,
is I don't think and I've watched that. I rewound
it all one hundred times, and I'm like, I don't
think Cole could beat him, But I do think Rizzo
could have beaten Mookie to the bag. Do you agree
(06:09):
with those two things there?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Well, it depends if Cole is off the mound and
Bam thinking go to first. Yeah, I think he can
beat him, but he didn't. There was a delay. I
think Rizzo was making sure he fielded the ground ball
and just assuming the picture will be there, because if
you look at Rizzo and you watch him over a
big sample size, Rizzo rarely pulls that foot race to
(06:37):
the back. Rarely. He's kind of known for flipping the
ball to the picture. And it was just one of
those things where it's kind of a mental thing where
Cole's so frustrated with that inning and how it unfolded.
I mean, I was watching him. He had he had
Garrett Cole stuck, but he was throwing him heaters, hittable heaters,
(06:58):
but they couldn't get to it because it was Cole
and he was just on top of it. That's what
an ace is. The one thing there was a lot
made about this, and in our day, you guys know,
if we've got a Randy Johnson, and I'm talking about
a prototypical number one ace, you go into the World
Series and there's nowhere to go but that you got
all winner to rest and a Randy Johnson, a shilling
(07:20):
of Madison Bumgardner. You're always going game one. Hey, if
you need me on there, game four so I can
pitch Game seven. Nothing was discussed about that with Cole.
I didn't hear anything about it. In Game four, I
think he was not even in the bullpen down three.
So he was getting a little bit of criticism back
(07:40):
in New York for really not being available. I mean,
he was, to me, the only true ace in the
postseason and he wasn't there. But I'll tell you after
that fifth inning, you could see it on his face.
He was he was rolling. He knew he was on
his game. They weren't going to touch him that night.
And then all of a sudden, the way it rolled
out the end of the fifth inning, I saw a
different demeanor in his face, like he went from I'm
(08:03):
in control. These guys can't touch me today if I
keep doing this too, what just happened? And now I'm pissed.
And I was really interested to see how that would
come out. I was getting people texting me and I said,
and I think I said, well, this is a time
where he's Garrett Cole and as a skipper, you go, Garrett,
(08:23):
what do you got? Can you go on? Was that
too much? Emotionally?
Speaker 1 (08:27):
I was one of those guys texting you saying get
it out of here right off?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
He was it. I said, this is a time, this
is almost a gratty little moment in three in the
end got gratty little fired. But what you do to
your ace of aces and Cole is that you go
to him and say, hey, big boy, what do you got.
I know that was an emotional leting are you ready?
And I think that conversation went on and it was
basically I've seen these happen before. Garrett Cole said, probably
(08:54):
to my brother, listen, Boonie, this is my game. I
got it. And he went out there pitted, sick, came
out for the seventh. So that showed me a lot
about Gerret Cole in the in that moment that being
said that the damage was done, and then it was
just I mean, you're down. You're down three to zero. Uh,
no one's ever done it in the history of baseball
(09:15):
in the World Series. So your backs as far against
the wall. You win one, man, you got a little adrenaline,
you're playing better. You come out to a five o leitch.
You still got to get get the game in six
and seven. But you know, it would be a borderline
miracle to come back and win that butt man, it
would have been interesting. Yeah, you know, I I know
as a player what I'd be thinking. I'd be thinking,
all right, we're sticking it to them. We're going to LA.
(09:37):
I packed my bags this morning. I didn't know, and
then all of a sudden, we ain't going to LA.
And uh, it was a tough way to end it.
But you look at that Yankee team, and I mentioned
at the top, I think they were the best team
this year in the AL record proves that out. But
in the end, I watched this team all year and
they shot themselves in the foot a lot of times
(09:57):
by just playing sloppily. And I'm talking from little miscues
defensively to probably led the league in base running blunders.
And I think in the end it kind of sank
their ship. And it was too bad to see them
go out that way. It would have been much better
to play a clean, clean game and if they lost
in Game six, they lost in Game six. To go
(10:19):
out that way, it was tough. I know it was
tough with my brother. I haven't talked to him yet.
I sent him a couple of texts. But that's baseball,
and that's what makes baseball unbelievable. You just never ever know.
And I try to break this down and I try
to give you a winner and tell you why and
why not, and a lot of the times I'm just
(10:41):
throwing my paperwork up in the air going I got
no clute. Yeah, just like everybody else, you can't. There's
no rhyme or reason. But I think, once again, I
think congratulations of that Dodger team, and I think in
the end they proved that they were the best team.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
In twenty twenty four, Bret Boone's with us for a
few more minutes on the radio show. His brother obviously
was managing the Yankees in the in the world serious,
so we thought we'd check in with the family, see
how they're doing after losing to La and in five games.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
And I'm with you.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I mean, I think we all agree. Falling down three
and nothing, the thing was over. But I'm just kind
of hoping for something to do tonight. Now I gotta
go home and watch San Diego State and Boise State.
I was hoping to watch some baseball.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
You know, you know, you know what, it saved me
a little bit. On the positive side.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It saved me a lot of headaches that I would
have had for all the people because it's you know,
I'm in San Diego in LA going up I.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Was planning on taking Dad up there, but I was
getting the you know, I was getting the text hepe Brett,
what's the chance of me getting a hold of one
extra ticket? Where am I on the pecking list? And
I had to I had to stock answer, Yeah, it
was your number seventy two. There you go, There I go,
and I might have eight tickets. So yeah, God save
me a little bit of a headache. But I no,
I wish I would have had the headache.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Well, let me, Brett, let me ask you one more
of the Yankees before we get to the news of
the day with the Mariners and and prolong moving on.
But Juan Soto. You know, look, he turned down a
twelve year, four hundred and forty million dollar deal two
years ago for thirty million, and he played his cards
right because he'll be getting more than that now on
the open market. I mean, I'm seeing like minimum five
(12:13):
hundred mil. I saw the Post at a story today
where they're talking about maybe seventy million a year for Sodo.
I mean, obviously the ems the Mariners would be out
either way. There's no way they're dipping their toe in
that water. But what do you think one Soto does.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Well. I think Juan Soto had an unbelievable year and
for a young for a twenty five year old man,
I think he did an unbelievable job answering the questions.
From a business perspective, it's like, obviously he loves his
year in New York playing in the Bronx, having that
(12:51):
level of success, Why wouldn't you, why would you want
to play anywhere else? But he didn't give that to
the reporters. He said, Hey, I'm here, I'm having a
great time, I'm having a great year. I love my teammates,
i love this place. But I've earned the right to
be a free agent and I'm going to test that market.
And I think it wasn't wasn't offensive at the same time,
(13:12):
it was business one on one. I mean, I think
Boris is sitting there going, that's perfect how he played that.
I think he wants to go back to the Yankees,
but I think he was instructed not to allude to that,
which is smart from a business standpoint, it's genius. So
I think he handled it well. I think he wants
to come back to the Yankees. That being said, he's
going to test the market and see how much they'll
(13:34):
pay with kind of a It was a perfect storm.
I mean how he played down the stretch and just
his year in total, you couldn't have done it any better.
And to be in this situation, he's by far the
cream and the crop offensively as far as as far
as free agents go. So you're going to see teams
like the Dodgers. I think the biggest and the biggest
(13:57):
competition for the Yanks are going to be the Mets.
I think Colin's over there going we're probably gonna lose
Pee Alonzo, and he's proven that he'll he'll throw money around,
so I think that I think the Mets are going
to be the biggest competition for New York. I think
Soto's proven he loves playing in New York. He's just
gonna move down the street a little bit and play
play for the Mets if that happens. As far as
(14:19):
the money, uh, the market always every market's different. Last year,
after Yamamoto and after Show Hey Otana, you saw that
the money kind of dried up and those big free
agents didn't get the money they thought they were gonna get.
There's still a lot of question marks out there with
the TV deal for Major League Baseball. But I think,
just like last year, I think he's the Otani of
(14:40):
this year's free agent class. I think he's gonna get
his money. What that number is the market's gonna bear.
I don't know. Seven hundred, No, nobody's touching show Hey.
I mean, think of what sho Hey did offensively, and
now you're gonna he's the number one or number two
starter on a world championship quality. How do you match that?
There's nobody out there with the said except for him.
(15:01):
So I think he set the bar at seven hundred. Yes,
it's deferred, but it's still seven hundred. I think you're
looking more and noan boris he's gonna want to the
next biggest deal for a non show pe who put
him in the corner. He's a unicorn who's the best
player and has gotten the most money Mike Trout yep,
So I think in that's the first that's the first
(15:23):
number is we're going to be higher than Trout's number.
And I don't know exactly what Trout's number is. I
think it's in the four hundreds, right around four hundred.
So I think five hundred realistic, but you're going six
to seven hundred. I mean, come on, you're you're basically
paying for one of the great offensive players of the game,
(15:43):
pretty mediocre defensively, and for me, he's probably below average defensively.
You price it out and you look out in the future.
Is Juan Soda still playing right field in six seven years?
He's probably turned into eh. So, now you're paying a
DHI fifty sixty million year. I think that's a little much.
One thing he's got going well, a lot of things
(16:04):
going for him, But he's twenty five years old, right,
so they're gonna be able to stretch that contract out.
It doesn't have to be an eight or a nine
year deal. It could be a twelve or thirteen year deal.
I think that's what you're gonna see. I think that
numbers right around five hundred is the sweet spot. No
one's ever done it, with the exception once again, I'm
show hey who in my opinion doesn't count because nobody's
(16:24):
like him. But I think that for the normal big
league superstars, I think he's gonna set a record, and
I think it's gonna be right around five.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Brett. Did Freddy Freeman punch his ticket to Cooperstown last week,
and was that the best World Series performance you've ever seen.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
I'll tell you what. It was pretty awesome. And just
to keep rolling, he did it. You know, it's tough
to say, Oh yeah, four World Series ago. He hit
a home run in the last two, so it's six straight.
Well it is six straight, but just to hit four
straight and just to win he hit him. They were huge.
Every one of them was a huge home run. Some
(17:03):
one ended the game, the other two just kind of wow,
sealed the deal. So I think what he did, yeah,
it definitely edged him closer. Yep, he's on that path.
I can't sit here. I've watched this Hall of Fame.
I watched people that I can't believe aren't in, and
then some guys that got in early. I didn't you know.
That shocked me that they got in that early. So
(17:25):
I'll never say one hundred percent, but everything's pointing in
the direction that, Yeah, Freddie Freeman's going to be a
Hall of Famer one day when it's all said.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Hey Booney, before you go, Bret Boone got about a
minute left here. Mariner is declining the twelve and a
half million dollar club option on Jorge Polonko today. Not surprised,
I guess from my perspective, But would there be any
part of you that would even have considered picking that up?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Or was this a no brainer by the team? I
think it's a no brainer. I think you turned the
page on that and you go in a different direction.
I've heard a little talk about it. I don't know
for sure, but I think that Alonso is going to
be out there, and I think Alonso should be the
main target. I think he's, you know, other than Soto,
he's the biggest guy on the board. I said it
a year ago, where are you going to replace one
(18:10):
hundred RBIs with Ti, Oscar and Nandez. I know everybody's
worried about the strikeouts. I'll tell you what. He went
to LA and did an unbelievable job again, and if
it weren't for the big guys, he's right there in
that MVP voting this year, He's probably still going to
be a top ten. What's wrong with bringing him back?
I like him, I like his production. I don't know
if Seattle's interested in that, but I see going in
(18:31):
that direction a little bit more. You've got to address
second base. Second base since Canos left has been a
real juggernaut for the Seattle Mariners. They haven't found that
right fit, and I think they're going to use some
money to go do that. But I think you've really
got to get on the board. You got to land
at least one big guy I'd love to see too.
(18:52):
We talked about it earlier. You know, if it takes
a point where it's got to be a trade for
a big time player, he might have to park with
one of your starting your five guys you got in rotation.
I think the marriage at this point could give up
one of them still be a great team if it
means in return we're getting two big time players on
the offensive side of the ball. So it'll be interesting.
(19:14):
But I think the Polanco choice was a prudent one
and I think they did a good job of that.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
All right, man, great stuff, enjoy the offseason, looking forward
to the podcast over the Winner and we'll talk very soon.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Man.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Appreciate it, Panks, Brett, you got it, Thanks guys.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
All right, Brett Boone. With us wrapping up the baseball season,
we're gonna break. Hugh Mellin's going to join at five
o'clock tonight. Got a lot more to get to on
a busy Friday. Seahawks Rams injury report out and not
necessarily great for the Hawks. We'll get to that coming
up on ninety three to three kJ A RFM
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