August 20, 2024 • 20 mins
Former Seahawks Head Coach Pete Carroll joins the show for the first time since being let go as Seahawks head coach to talk about what he is doing now, what he thinks of the new Seahawks staff, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For the first time, and I can't think of how long.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The former head coach of your Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll,
is with us right now on the radio program Coach,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And Softy and Doug Baldwin? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well? What's up guys? Well, and there's a lot going on.
I think you're right. I don't think I've been on
the radio. I can't remember well when when it was.
This might be the first time. It is up. What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
What's up? Pablo? Miss you?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Do we have? Yeah? I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean we got you, got you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Maybe you're getting teary eyed because Doug just told you
how much he misses being around you.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I mean when you hear when you hear guys say
stuff like that, when you hear from guys like Doug, Pete,
what what?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What memories get conjured up for you? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Man, there's so many memories. Most of it is is
having the fun, you know, most of us, uh, thinking
about just the laughs and the good times and the
kind of hugging up on each other when plays are
made and things are you know, just special things like that.
Those are the moments that stay with me. And there's
bigger moments too to talk about all. But with Doug
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and and myself, we we had a really fun friendship
and do this thing and I loved watching him compete
his ass off. He was amazing and so all of it, uh,
you know, is very special.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You know, Pete, we.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Were just talking about the time that I don't know
if you remember this, but I forget what was the
context around it, but I came up to you on
the bus and I just told you. I was like, hey,
I want you to you know, don't forget about the
impact that you have as a male leader and these males,
these young males lives.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Do you remember that we were on the bus?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I do. I do remember that. Yeah, and quite clearly. Yeah,
go ahead, no, go ahead. Oh well, I'm just yeah,
it's uh, you know, I think we realized that there's
a really good way to coach and to play together,
and that we give to each other and and be
open and and uh and caring. And you know, you
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were one for sure that that we passed it back
and forth. That's a great example of a time. You know,
I would do nothing but grave about about you, to
work with you and all that and and uh, you
weren't the easiest guys to deal with, but uh, but
I appreciated so much where you were coming from because
it was so important to you to excel. It's important
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to you to show who you were, you know, and
and to make that statement every chance you got. And
that's that to me, That's that's the guys I'm wanting
to surround myself with and trying to win football games
and do great things and you know, and take on
those big challenges.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, I remember you always used to say that you
wanted the guys that you would pick to play basketball with.
You went out on the exactly the street, like who's
who's coming with you? But you know, we were also
talking about just how you impacted us, not just you know,
as players, not just as you know, as as colleagues
and on the team and and you as our coach,
but just as a human being. And you know, the
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saying goes as like a player's coach. And I don't
even like that saying because it doesn't really encapsulate like
what that experience is. And I'm just curious from your perspective,
like when did that, you know, solidify for you? How
did you know what, how did you how did you
formalize your approach in the game, and just how you
wanted to coach, because obviously it impacted all.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, well it really goes a long ways back. And
when I first got the sense of how you can connect,
I was in a meeting at UOPI when I was
coaching a DVS there one night in the camp, probably
my first year coaching the back and uh, well, you know,
we were a preddy programmed. We were just slapping along
and it was a night meeting and been going. I said,
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you know, hey, let me ask you guys before tomorrow,
what do you guys want to work on? You know?
And it tomorrow's practice and the guys all, you know,
started feeding stuff. I was taking notes, putting on the
board and all that and old talk board and uh
and so we we just went for I don't know,
another half hour just talking to stuff. Everybody wanted to
try to get better at So meeting's over and I
run back over to the to the office on the
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UOP campus and I run into Chester Cantas said, hey, coach,
I said, coach, you won't believe the meeting I just had.
I was talking to the guys and asked about what
they want to work on. They are giving me this suggestion,
that suggestion. Everybody was kind of they're all charged up,
and you know, I could feel the energy of the
guys had been you know, listened to for the first time.
And and before I could finish what I'm in all
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my excitement about, he said, don't you ever let those
players tell me what to do in the southern draw
from Kentucky, you know. And and he tell me you're
that coach, You're you're in charge, you know, don't ever
listen to those guys. And I was just just blessed up,
you know that I thought I had something here, you know,
I thought i'd really touch base and something. And I
went home that night and uh, I thought about, you know,
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that was real. It was a really good thing. And
I know coach, I love him and all that, but
I'm going to do all that stuff that we said
we're going to do, you know. And so it was
my first chance that it kind of departing from the
standard way of thinking about being a coach, and I
got rewarded with it then and I've never been never
been away from that thought of always relating to the
guys and making sure that you know, you take the
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opportunity to get to know who they are and work
with them and listen to them and still coach that
hell out of them too though, and be hard on
them and demanding and high standards and expectations and all
of that. And uh, it started really early. Doug is
really the answer to that. And and I've felt all
along that I had a pretty good connection with guys.
But honestly, to tell you, guys, you know, when I'm
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now that I'm out and from the from the Hawks
and I'm out and around the area in town and
everywhere that I've been going, I've been getting so much
love from everybody. It's been amazing. And uh, you know,
people can't wait to come up and say some tick, picture,
autograph something that don't tell me about their their son
or their or their uncle who you know, loved the
way we did things there, and how engaged they doing,
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how much they missed me, you know, all that kind
of sappy stuff. But that's been really meaningful. And I
just I didn't, you know, I didn't have any clue
that you know, we've had that kind of connection on
the outside. And and it's been really obvious. And I
just got back. Did you guys know I went to
Kuwait last week? Yeah? Yeah, a group of guys that
have been taking care of the troops over the years,
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for many years that they've have a regular program where
they do a hard, hard court basketball tournament for the troops.
And so in Kuwait, there's three major bases there and
uh so I went over with seven other basketball coaches
and myself when Tim Floyd, the old guy I used
to coach at s C ask me if I go,
and we just had a phenomenal time over there, but
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coaching hoops, but over there running into all the soldiers
and all those guys were nuts about signing autograss and
it was just an out pawing. So I feel pretty
freaking lucky and very fortunate, you know that we had effect,
and uh I'm thrilled about it. I can't tell you
that I don't like it, you know, I do, and
and I'm please, but but it just reminds me how
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much I got to keep giving back and keep doing it,
so so it is it is important stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, Pete, you you hit on a number of things.
We don't have enough time to diving. All right, Well,
Softie says, we do. Sorry, Frosty says, we do.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I think one of the things that I
took away that I learned from our time together Pete,
was just, you know, how much you genuinely cared and
loved the guys, but at the same time you had
to balance the business of it and also the you know,
the accountability. And I think I learned in that process
just that you can't have love without the boundaries. There
has to be the boundaries. The boundaries. They're necessary for
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you to understand where you're, where you are, where you stand.
And I'm just curious for you, like what, Like, you know,
you just said the story about how the coach told
you you came back with this thought and the coach like, nah,
I don't do that, but yet you persevere through that.
You you were consistent through.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It, Like what, yeah, I pretty much anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, But why why were you so convicted and why
are you still convicted about that?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Because it just felt right, you know, it felt right,
And I've always gone with my feelings and trying to
be really in touch with what's what's happening and trying
to feel other people's sense and awareness and emotions and
all of that too, you know, to try to get
to the truth in the essence of what's really going
on instead of kind of glossing over, you know, and
and in arms length. And I don't think you can
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go as far. You can't you can't have as much impact,
you can't be you can't be great doing it that way,
in my opinion. And so, uh, you know that it's
just been a way and people have accepted, you know,
I'm you know, I'm up beat and having fun and
all that. Well, some some people that I worked with
didn't didn't see it as being constructed all. They fired
my butt for you know, I got fired after one
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year that Jeff the Cold figure me out and after
following Parcels in New England. You know what was I thinking,
you know, a till of the Hunt coaching and and
here I'm going to come in there and and they
just come to the to the Super Bowl. I'm gonna
get all revd up what a dumb idea that was.
But but still that's just the way I've been doing it.
And and uh, I'm I'm I'm excited about it, and
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I'm excited about it now because there's there's more stuff
to teach, there's more stuff to share, and uh, and
you know, everyone wants to know what I'm doing and
all that, and you know my coaching or what am
I doing. I'm I'm working with with some really fun
people and some exciting opportunities to do some really cool
stuff and putting things together and offer up for others.
And so I'm gonna I'm gonna keep working at it
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that way and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, tell us, coach, uh, Pete Carroll with us, tell
us more about that, because I think it was I
think Brennan may have insinuated. And if I got this wrong,
I apologize that you're doing some stuff with high school.
So tell tell folks kind of more what you're doing
out there with your time now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well what I'm kind of keeping it under undercover here
for a bit, but I will wind up working down
at USC. I'm gonna I'm gonna wind up teaching down there. Wow,
And I'm looking forward to that. It's going to be
a really uh, a really exciting endeavor when it all
is finalized and all that. Not quite yet, but we're
you know, I'm down in La today doing some stuff.
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So that's that's going to be, you know, in line,
and there'll be there is some other stuff that I'm
advising and counseling with and on some other clubs, not
not football, on some other things and that I'm excited about. Again,
I'm not talking about those if you don't mind, But
if people are worried about me, I'm fine. I'm doing
just fine, and I'm having fun and Glenn and I've
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been having a blast and what's our family and all
that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of things
going on and I'm excited about. Don't be a little
bit before it shows up. I was really looking forward
to this Kuwait visit and seeing the troops and all that,
and then there'll be some stuff that comes out of
that as well. So I'm gonna be kind of vague
like I always am when you guys talk to me,
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but uh, I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Hey, speaking of Glenna, how she doing? I mean, I know, listen,
retiring being home a lot. Is she okay with you
being home as often as you are?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now? How much how much challenge? Man? I can't tell.
I'm a darn challenge. You know. There's so many things.
I had no clue about what's going on. She just
did everything and took care of everything, and she's I'm
really I'm in school on a regular basis and on
so many different topics, on so many different levels. Yeah,
she just has to keep putting up with it. But
she knows I'm trying. I'm trying to get better. But
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you know all of the enabling that happens when you're
a head football coach in the NFL and all the
people around you and everybody's there for you, you know,
and I can holler hey, hey, Ben, you know where
he comes running in there and makes the phone call
and gives me what I need, and uh, you know,
you can get kind of soft doing that stuff, and
I'd be not be very worldly about what's going on
around you. So I'm doing way better, but I got
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long ways to go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, you mentioned wanting to be vague about some projects,
and that's that's totally fine. But you also mentioned teaching.
I mean, is there a chance that we could see
you in a classroom at USC.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh, Yeah, that's that's on that's coming, and uh, I'm
really looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, take all the way at sprinktime, maybe all the
way to sprintime before we start it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And man, I'm glad to hear that. Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that is great news. Man, very very cool that
you're doing that. But Pete Carroll's with us. What do
you make of this new coaching staff? I mean, your
opinion on Seahawk related matters is going to matter forever,
right you coach Holmgren, coach Knox, coach Petera. Everybody wants
to know what you guys think about all this stuff.
What's your take on McDonald and the staff is put together?
And have you conversed with them, spent much time with
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them at all?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to meet, say hey, and you kind
of get greeted and on we go. I have not
had much to do with them in any way. And
really I'm just watching the games a little bit. When
I seem on TV, I'm not paying that much attention
to it. It just feels like it's the right thing
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to do to let them go. And I don't really
have any opinion other than I know they're really hard
working and it's a really smart group of guys. Yeah,
and I know that they're in are they have a
good group around him to build on, and I think
it sounds like they've done some really good things that
checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the guys
up front and you no tackling all that they could
could be really good up there. That's a really good
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place to start. It's a really good place to start.
Could see him back, you know, and with the fellows
and all. He's a real important factor in that football team.
And so but I really don't have that. I don't
have that much information. But i'm purpose, you know, with purpose,
I'm staying away from it. Yeah, and I'm not visiting
with him at all.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, Doug kind of said the same thing that he's
not involved. He's kind of staying away for now, you know,
letting the thing be the thing. But I guess for
both of you guys, and Pete will start with you.
Can you imagine waking up on a Sunday morning and
putting the Seahawks game on at ten am or one o'clock.
Will you be sitting in your living room or a
sports bar and watching this football team play.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I won't be in a sports bar, Kenny, Okay, Doug
might be. I don't know. They might be changing way
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
You know better than that.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I know, I know. But I'll watch you when I can.
I got a lot of games, you know, with with
my kids and all that that's happening on the weekend.
So I'm really looking forward to the weekends in a
big way. And so uh it'll be fun with you know,
checking in and I can'tnot watch if I get a chance.
I want to see how they do and see how
the guys. And there are a lot of guys I
love on that football team and I know and they
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care about, you know, and want to see how they do.
They're successful and all that, and hopefully they'll make it
through it do some great things.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So Pablo, part of my my negotiations with Softy to
be up here, as he told me, I could talk
about whatever I wanted to talk about, but I had
to ask you this question when you came on air.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
This is not true, by the way, but go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
One of us is lying as I say that, he
wants to know, do you still want to coach? Do
you want to coach again?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, you know, I get asked a lot, so I'm
pretty familiar with answering that I could coach tomorrow. I mean,
I don't physically in the best shape I've been in
a long time. I'm ready to be ready to do
all the activities that I'm doing and feeling really good
about it. I could, I don't, but I don't. Really,
I'm not desiring it, you know at this point, and
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this isn't the coaching season. You know, we'll see what happens.
I'm not really uh, I'm not waiting on it at all.
I'm going ahead and I got other things that i
want to do that I'm excited about, and I'm going
to see how all that goes. I'm not thinking that
it's uh, I'm holding my breath and that kind of thing.
So if it's been forty something years, forty eight years
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or whatever coaching and that's it, I feel okay about that.
You know, people just ask me, you know, hey, how're
your team doing? How you know, what do you think
of your programming? So I'll tell you when, you know,
when we get further down the roads and we're looking
back and looking back at what's happened and what you know,
what we've done over the years and the fourteen years
and then the nine years at SC. You know, I
feel pretty good about all that. And and if that's
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is what it is and that's man of my coaching,
I can live with that. But I'm telling you I do, honestly,
I feel great and I could. I never was worn
out by the game of coach it, you know, and
then never, I've always, never, never ran out of juice
or stamina to do that. Then I don't feel like
many I think they're better than that now. So but
that's that's That's about as vague as I can be.
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And uh, I don't know. I got no other alternatives
right now to think about. And I'm playing about that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
No, I think that's the right thought.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And I remember conversations that you and I had before
where you know, we talked about that the energy it
doesn't you you're not drained by it because you're living
in your passion, you know, and so it actually gives
you life.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And so I hear you that's exactly that's exactly right, Doug.
It is if I feed off of the people in
the in the relationships and the challenges and the ups
and the downs of it all, and the bounce backs
and all that kind of stuff. That stuff. I love
that stuff. And uh, you know, competing to me, man,
that's never going away. So wherever that fits and wherever
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it can be directed, you know, I'll follow that along.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, I haven't no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But you know, as somebody who cares about you, who
loves you, I would tell you go sit your ass
down somewhere, spend some time with Glenna. And you know
I've said that to you before. You listen, you got
nothing else to prove. I know you have the competitive
spirit in you and I'm grateful for that. So don't
ever lose that, and I know you never will. But
you know Glenna deserves some time too.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I know you know that.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I appreciate your thoughts, and you know this has been
one of the really special relationships. Let's just keep it going.
I will tell you that over in Kuwait, you know,
I had a team. My team was an Air Force
team and a bunch of guys and I was thrick
in battling. You know. The way I told him, I said, look,
I'm gonna coach you guys exactly like to coach football guys,
and so let's start it right now. You know it's
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all about the ball, and here we go. You know,
I wanted them to hear an NFL coach coach them
so and they would have that experience regardless whether its
or not. Hey, we went right into our one three
one trap we were running. I told him there's no
three point shot that I never I never would have
turned down. Don't you turn one down either? Yea?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Listen, I got to ask you before you go, coach,
and Pete Carroll's with us, watching your son over at
you dub with Steve Belichick and what Jed's doing, can
you kind of give us some thought on how involved
you may or may not be with them, whether just
over the phone, over email, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Watching tape, helping them scout whatever. What what will your role,
if anything, be with Jed fish this fall?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You think there's no role but being a friend to
Jed and a dad did Brannan. I'm really looking forward
to their season. They've done such a nice job. I
got a chance to watch them a number of times
in this spring, and they are coaching their team just
like they coach to Arizona team that really got it together.
I think they're way ahead of where they were when
they first went into the Arizona with their style and
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their philosophy and approach and all that. They're going to
have a nice team now. And it's against you know
what maybe the everybody's thinking because they lost so many kids,
but they put back together. I know, Bennet is a
real competitive boost with the guys that came in here
in the fall, and you guys got healthy and all that. So, uh,
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they're they're gonna I think they're gonna do really well.
They've got a nice, nice chance to get started this schedule,
get rolling a little bit, see if they can put
some momentum together. And I can't wait to watch them.
I'm just I'm just as fired up as any fan
could be to see how they how they do it.
Steve Steve, I did watch these defense and he's got
a really good scheme obviously, and it showed up and
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they were aggressive and so there was just a lot
of real positives there.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Pablo, thank you, thank you for thank you for your time,
Thanks for coming on the air.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Listen again. You know how much I care about you
that much. I love you a little brother. Ye very great,
just very great.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
The fellas, I don't get to see all those guys
as much as you can. Say, we'll get a chance
and we'll get together when we get back in town.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And give Glenn a hug for me. Please.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Sure, we'll pass along. See you guys.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Were you talking to me or Doug when you said
you loved him for me?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Or yeah? Which? Sorry Sufty, We just we just see't
quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Hey, thanks coach, thanks for doing this, and let's talk sooner.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I take care of my Bye.
For the first time, and I can't think of how long.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
The former head coach of your Seattle Seahawks, Pete Carroll,
is with us right now on the radio program Coach,
how are you?
Speaker 1 (00:10):
And Softy and Doug Baldwin? What's going on?
Speaker 3 (00:14):
Well? What's up guys? Well, and there's a lot going on.
I think you're right. I don't think I've been on
the radio. I can't remember well when when it was.
This might be the first time. It is up. What's up?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
What's up? Pablo? Miss you?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
Do we have? Yeah? I'm here.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I mean we got you, got you.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Maybe you're getting teary eyed because Doug just told you
how much he misses being around you.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I mean when you hear when you hear guys say
stuff like that, when you hear from guys like Doug, Pete,
what what?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
What memories get conjured up for you? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Man, there's so many memories. Most of it is is
having the fun, you know, most of us, uh, thinking
about just the laughs and the good times and the
kind of hugging up on each other when plays are
made and things are you know, just special things like that.
Those are the moments that stay with me. And there's
bigger moments too to talk about all. But with Doug
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and and myself, we we had a really fun friendship
and do this thing and I loved watching him compete
his ass off. He was amazing and so all of it, uh,
you know, is very special.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
You know, Pete, we.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Were just talking about the time that I don't know
if you remember this, but I forget what was the
context around it, but I came up to you on
the bus and I just told you. I was like, hey,
I want you to you know, don't forget about the
impact that you have as a male leader and these males,
these young males lives.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Do you remember that we were on the bus?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Yeah, I do. I do remember that. Yeah, and quite clearly. Yeah,
go ahead, no, go ahead. Oh well, I'm just yeah,
it's uh, you know, I think we realized that there's
a really good way to coach and to play together,
and that we give to each other and and be
open and and uh and caring. And you know, you
(02:04):
were one for sure that that we passed it back
and forth. That's a great example of a time. You know,
I would do nothing but grave about about you, to
work with you and all that and and uh, you
weren't the easiest guys to deal with, but uh, but
I appreciated so much where you were coming from because
it was so important to you to excel. It's important
(02:26):
to you to show who you were, you know, and
and to make that statement every chance you got. And
that's that to me, That's that's the guys I'm wanting
to surround myself with and trying to win football games
and do great things and you know, and take on
those big challenges.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
Yeah, I remember you always used to say that you
wanted the guys that you would pick to play basketball with.
You went out on the exactly the street, like who's
who's coming with you? But you know, we were also
talking about just how you impacted us, not just you know,
as players, not just as you know, as as colleagues
and on the team and and you as our coach,
but just as a human being. And you know, the
(03:02):
saying goes as like a player's coach. And I don't
even like that saying because it doesn't really encapsulate like
what that experience is. And I'm just curious from your perspective,
like when did that, you know, solidify for you? How
did you know what, how did you how did you
formalize your approach in the game, and just how you
wanted to coach, because obviously it impacted all.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, well it really goes a long ways back. And
when I first got the sense of how you can connect,
I was in a meeting at UOPI when I was
coaching a DVS there one night in the camp, probably
my first year coaching the back and uh, well, you know,
we were a preddy programmed. We were just slapping along
and it was a night meeting and been going. I said,
(03:44):
you know, hey, let me ask you guys before tomorrow,
what do you guys want to work on? You know?
And it tomorrow's practice and the guys all, you know,
started feeding stuff. I was taking notes, putting on the
board and all that and old talk board and uh
and so we we just went for I don't know,
another half hour just talking to stuff. Everybody wanted to
try to get better at So meeting's over and I
run back over to the to the office on the
(04:06):
UOP campus and I run into Chester Cantas said, hey, coach,
I said, coach, you won't believe the meeting I just had.
I was talking to the guys and asked about what
they want to work on. They are giving me this suggestion,
that suggestion. Everybody was kind of they're all charged up,
and you know, I could feel the energy of the
guys had been you know, listened to for the first time.
And and before I could finish what I'm in all
(04:28):
my excitement about, he said, don't you ever let those
players tell me what to do in the southern draw
from Kentucky, you know. And and he tell me you're
that coach, You're you're in charge, you know, don't ever
listen to those guys. And I was just just blessed up,
you know that I thought I had something here, you know,
I thought i'd really touch base and something. And I
went home that night and uh, I thought about, you know,
(04:50):
that was real. It was a really good thing. And
I know coach, I love him and all that, but
I'm going to do all that stuff that we said
we're going to do, you know. And so it was
my first chance that it kind of departing from the
standard way of thinking about being a coach, and I
got rewarded with it then and I've never been never
been away from that thought of always relating to the
guys and making sure that you know, you take the
(05:12):
opportunity to get to know who they are and work
with them and listen to them and still coach that
hell out of them too though, and be hard on
them and demanding and high standards and expectations and all
of that. And uh, it started really early. Doug is
really the answer to that. And and I've felt all
along that I had a pretty good connection with guys.
But honestly, to tell you, guys, you know, when I'm
(05:33):
now that I'm out and from the from the Hawks
and I'm out and around the area in town and
everywhere that I've been going, I've been getting so much
love from everybody. It's been amazing. And uh, you know,
people can't wait to come up and say some tick, picture,
autograph something that don't tell me about their their son
or their or their uncle who you know, loved the
way we did things there, and how engaged they doing,
(05:54):
how much they missed me, you know, all that kind
of sappy stuff. But that's been really meaningful. And I
just I didn't, you know, I didn't have any clue
that you know, we've had that kind of connection on
the outside. And and it's been really obvious. And I
just got back. Did you guys know I went to
Kuwait last week? Yeah? Yeah, a group of guys that
have been taking care of the troops over the years,
(06:14):
for many years that they've have a regular program where
they do a hard, hard court basketball tournament for the troops.
And so in Kuwait, there's three major bases there and
uh so I went over with seven other basketball coaches
and myself when Tim Floyd, the old guy I used
to coach at s C ask me if I go,
and we just had a phenomenal time over there, but
(06:37):
coaching hoops, but over there running into all the soldiers
and all those guys were nuts about signing autograss and
it was just an out pawing. So I feel pretty
freaking lucky and very fortunate, you know that we had effect,
and uh I'm thrilled about it. I can't tell you
that I don't like it, you know, I do, and
and I'm please, but but it just reminds me how
(06:59):
much I got to keep giving back and keep doing it,
so so it is it is important stuff.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
Yeah, Pete, you you hit on a number of things.
We don't have enough time to diving. All right, Well,
Softie says, we do. Sorry, Frosty says, we do.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
You know, I think one of the things that I
took away that I learned from our time together Pete,
was just, you know, how much you genuinely cared and
loved the guys, but at the same time you had
to balance the business of it and also the you know,
the accountability. And I think I learned in that process
just that you can't have love without the boundaries. There
has to be the boundaries. The boundaries. They're necessary for
(07:41):
you to understand where you're, where you are, where you stand.
And I'm just curious for you, like what, Like, you know,
you just said the story about how the coach told
you you came back with this thought and the coach like, nah,
I don't do that, but yet you persevere through that.
You you were consistent through.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It, Like what, yeah, I pretty much anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
Yeah, But why why were you so convicted and why
are you still convicted about that?
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Because it just felt right, you know, it felt right,
And I've always gone with my feelings and trying to
be really in touch with what's what's happening and trying
to feel other people's sense and awareness and emotions and
all of that too, you know, to try to get
to the truth in the essence of what's really going
on instead of kind of glossing over, you know, and
and in arms length. And I don't think you can
(08:26):
go as far. You can't you can't have as much impact,
you can't be you can't be great doing it that way,
in my opinion. And so, uh, you know that it's
just been a way and people have accepted, you know,
I'm you know, I'm up beat and having fun and
all that. Well, some some people that I worked with
didn't didn't see it as being constructed all. They fired
my butt for you know, I got fired after one
(08:47):
year that Jeff the Cold figure me out and after
following Parcels in New England. You know what was I thinking,
you know, a till of the Hunt coaching and and
here I'm going to come in there and and they
just come to the to the Super Bowl. I'm gonna
get all revd up what a dumb idea that was.
But but still that's just the way I've been doing it.
And and uh, I'm I'm I'm excited about it, and
(09:09):
I'm excited about it now because there's there's more stuff
to teach, there's more stuff to share, and uh, and
you know, everyone wants to know what I'm doing and
all that, and you know my coaching or what am
I doing. I'm I'm working with with some really fun
people and some exciting opportunities to do some really cool
stuff and putting things together and offer up for others.
And so I'm gonna I'm gonna keep working at it
(09:30):
that way and see what happens.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Well, tell us, coach, uh, Pete Carroll with us, tell
us more about that, because I think it was I
think Brennan may have insinuated. And if I got this wrong,
I apologize that you're doing some stuff with high school.
So tell tell folks kind of more what you're doing
out there with your time now.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well what I'm kind of keeping it under undercover here
for a bit, but I will wind up working down
at USC. I'm gonna I'm gonna wind up teaching down there. Wow,
And I'm looking forward to that. It's going to be
a really uh, a really exciting endeavor when it all
is finalized and all that. Not quite yet, but we're
you know, I'm down in La today doing some stuff.
(10:08):
So that's that's going to be, you know, in line,
and there'll be there is some other stuff that I'm
advising and counseling with and on some other clubs, not
not football, on some other things and that I'm excited about. Again,
I'm not talking about those if you don't mind, But
if people are worried about me, I'm fine. I'm doing
just fine, and I'm having fun and Glenn and I've
(10:31):
been having a blast and what's our family and all
that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of things
going on and I'm excited about. Don't be a little
bit before it shows up. I was really looking forward
to this Kuwait visit and seeing the troops and all that,
and then there'll be some stuff that comes out of
that as well. So I'm gonna be kind of vague
like I always am when you guys talk to me,
(10:51):
but uh, I'm really looking forward to it.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Hey, speaking of Glenna, how she doing? I mean, I know, listen,
retiring being home a lot. Is she okay with you
being home as often as you are?
Speaker 3 (11:03):
Now? How much how much challenge? Man? I can't tell.
I'm a darn challenge. You know. There's so many things.
I had no clue about what's going on. She just
did everything and took care of everything, and she's I'm
really I'm in school on a regular basis and on
so many different topics, on so many different levels. Yeah,
she just has to keep putting up with it. But
she knows I'm trying. I'm trying to get better. But
(11:25):
you know all of the enabling that happens when you're
a head football coach in the NFL and all the
people around you and everybody's there for you, you know,
and I can holler hey, hey, Ben, you know where
he comes running in there and makes the phone call
and gives me what I need, and uh, you know,
you can get kind of soft doing that stuff, and
I'd be not be very worldly about what's going on
around you. So I'm doing way better, but I got
(11:45):
long ways to go.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Well, you mentioned wanting to be vague about some projects,
and that's that's totally fine. But you also mentioned teaching.
I mean, is there a chance that we could see
you in a classroom at USC.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Oh, Yeah, that's that's on that's coming, and uh, I'm
really looking forward to that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Well, take all the way at sprinktime, maybe all the
way to sprintime before we start it.
Speaker 4 (12:04):
And man, I'm glad to hear that. Pete.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, that is great news. Man, very very cool that
you're doing that. But Pete Carroll's with us. What do
you make of this new coaching staff? I mean, your
opinion on Seahawk related matters is going to matter forever,
right you coach Holmgren, coach Knox, coach Petera. Everybody wants
to know what you guys think about all this stuff.
What's your take on McDonald and the staff is put together?
And have you conversed with them, spent much time with
(12:28):
them at all?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
No, I really haven't. I haven't talked to those guys
at all. I ran into Mike in the parking lot
one day and it was a great chance to just
give us alone to meet, say hey, and you kind
of get greeted and on we go. I have not
had much to do with them in any way. And
really I'm just watching the games a little bit. When
I seem on TV, I'm not paying that much attention
to it. It just feels like it's the right thing
(12:51):
to do to let them go. And I don't really
have any opinion other than I know they're really hard
working and it's a really smart group of guys. Yeah,
and I know that they're in are they have a
good group around him to build on, and I think
it sounds like they've done some really good things that
checking on or heard the Leo's comments about the guys
up front and you no tackling all that they could
could be really good up there. That's a really good
(13:12):
place to start. It's a really good place to start.
Could see him back, you know, and with the fellows
and all. He's a real important factor in that football team.
And so but I really don't have that. I don't
have that much information. But i'm purpose, you know, with purpose,
I'm staying away from it. Yeah, and I'm not visiting
with him at all.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, Doug kind of said the same thing that he's
not involved. He's kind of staying away for now, you know,
letting the thing be the thing. But I guess for
both of you guys, and Pete will start with you.
Can you imagine waking up on a Sunday morning and
putting the Seahawks game on at ten am or one o'clock.
Will you be sitting in your living room or a
sports bar and watching this football team play.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I won't be in a sports bar, Kenny, Okay, Doug
might be. I don't know. They might be changing way
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
You know better than that.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I know, I know. But I'll watch you when I can.
I got a lot of games, you know, with with
my kids and all that that's happening on the weekend.
So I'm really looking forward to the weekends in a
big way. And so uh it'll be fun with you know,
checking in and I can'tnot watch if I get a chance.
I want to see how they do and see how
the guys. And there are a lot of guys I
love on that football team and I know and they
(14:22):
care about, you know, and want to see how they do.
They're successful and all that, and hopefully they'll make it
through it do some great things.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
So Pablo, part of my my negotiations with Softy to
be up here, as he told me, I could talk
about whatever I wanted to talk about, but I had
to ask you this question when you came on air.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
This is not true, by the way, but go ahead, Okay.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
One of us is lying as I say that, he
wants to know, do you still want to coach? Do
you want to coach again?
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Well, you know, I get asked a lot, so I'm
pretty familiar with answering that I could coach tomorrow. I mean,
I don't physically in the best shape I've been in
a long time. I'm ready to be ready to do
all the activities that I'm doing and feeling really good
about it. I could, I don't, but I don't. Really,
I'm not desiring it, you know at this point, and
(15:13):
this isn't the coaching season. You know, we'll see what happens.
I'm not really uh, I'm not waiting on it at all.
I'm going ahead and I got other things that i
want to do that I'm excited about, and I'm going
to see how all that goes. I'm not thinking that
it's uh, I'm holding my breath and that kind of thing.
So if it's been forty something years, forty eight years
(15:33):
or whatever coaching and that's it, I feel okay about that.
You know, people just ask me, you know, hey, how're
your team doing? How you know, what do you think
of your programming? So I'll tell you when, you know,
when we get further down the roads and we're looking
back and looking back at what's happened and what you know,
what we've done over the years and the fourteen years
and then the nine years at SC. You know, I
feel pretty good about all that. And and if that's
(15:55):
is what it is and that's man of my coaching,
I can live with that. But I'm telling you I do, honestly,
I feel great and I could. I never was worn
out by the game of coach it, you know, and
then never, I've always, never, never ran out of juice
or stamina to do that. Then I don't feel like
many I think they're better than that now. So but
that's that's That's about as vague as I can be.
(16:16):
And uh, I don't know. I got no other alternatives
right now to think about. And I'm playing about that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
No, I think that's the right thought.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
And I remember conversations that you and I had before
where you know, we talked about that the energy it
doesn't you you're not drained by it because you're living
in your passion, you know, and so it actually gives
you life.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And so I hear you that's exactly that's exactly right, Doug.
It is if I feed off of the people in
the in the relationships and the challenges and the ups
and the downs of it all, and the bounce backs
and all that kind of stuff. That stuff. I love
that stuff. And uh, you know, competing to me, man,
that's never going away. So wherever that fits and wherever
(16:56):
it can be directed, you know, I'll follow that along.
Speaker 4 (16:59):
Yeah, I haven't no doubt about that.
Speaker 5 (17:00):
But you know, as somebody who cares about you, who
loves you, I would tell you go sit your ass
down somewhere, spend some time with Glenna. And you know
I've said that to you before. You listen, you got
nothing else to prove. I know you have the competitive
spirit in you and I'm grateful for that. So don't
ever lose that, and I know you never will. But
you know Glenna deserves some time too.
Speaker 4 (17:21):
And I know you know that.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
I appreciate your thoughts, and you know this has been
one of the really special relationships. Let's just keep it going.
I will tell you that over in Kuwait, you know,
I had a team. My team was an Air Force
team and a bunch of guys and I was thrick
in battling. You know. The way I told him, I said, look,
I'm gonna coach you guys exactly like to coach football guys,
and so let's start it right now. You know it's
(17:45):
all about the ball, and here we go. You know,
I wanted them to hear an NFL coach coach them
so and they would have that experience regardless whether its
or not. Hey, we went right into our one three
one trap we were running. I told him there's no
three point shot that I never I never would have
turned down. Don't you turn one down either? Yea?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
I love that.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Listen, I got to ask you before you go, coach,
and Pete Carroll's with us, watching your son over at
you dub with Steve Belichick and what Jed's doing, can
you kind of give us some thought on how involved
you may or may not be with them, whether just
over the phone, over email, maybe.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Watching tape, helping them scout whatever. What what will your role,
if anything, be with Jed fish this fall?
Speaker 3 (18:26):
You think there's no role but being a friend to
Jed and a dad did Brannan. I'm really looking forward
to their season. They've done such a nice job. I
got a chance to watch them a number of times
in this spring, and they are coaching their team just
like they coach to Arizona team that really got it together.
I think they're way ahead of where they were when
they first went into the Arizona with their style and
(18:48):
their philosophy and approach and all that. They're going to
have a nice team now. And it's against you know
what maybe the everybody's thinking because they lost so many kids,
but they put back together. I know, Bennet is a
real competitive boost with the guys that came in here
in the fall, and you guys got healthy and all that. So, uh,
(19:09):
they're they're gonna I think they're gonna do really well.
They've got a nice, nice chance to get started this schedule,
get rolling a little bit, see if they can put
some momentum together. And I can't wait to watch them.
I'm just I'm just as fired up as any fan
could be to see how they how they do it.
Steve Steve, I did watch these defense and he's got
a really good scheme obviously, and it showed up and
(19:29):
they were aggressive and so there was just a lot
of real positives there.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Pablo, thank you, thank you for thank you for your time,
Thanks for coming on the air.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Listen again. You know how much I care about you
that much. I love you a little brother. Ye very great,
just very great.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
The fellas, I don't get to see all those guys
as much as you can. Say, we'll get a chance
and we'll get together when we get back in town.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
And give Glenn a hug for me. Please.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Sure, we'll pass along. See you guys.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
Were you talking to me or Doug when you said
you loved him for me?
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Or yeah? Which? Sorry Sufty, We just we just see't
quite there yet.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Hey, thanks coach, thanks for doing this, and let's talk sooner.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
I take care of my Bye.
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