March 4, 2026 • 22 mins
Former Huskies defensive lineman Jordan Reffett joins Softy and Dick to talk about the state of college football and new era for Washington in the NIL era under Coach Jedd Fisch, plus his friend and former Dawgs defensive tackle Daniel Milsten, who is facing a terminal cancer diagnosis, including how to help Daniel and his family with GoFundMe.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
And I was just thinking to myself heading into the segment, guys,
and Jordan Reffitt is going to join us here from you, Dub,
the former Husky defensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What number is bigger, by the way, the number.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of people that work for this radio station, or the
number of kids that Jordan Reffitt and his wife have
the app I think it's like eighteen or nineteen. Now, Jordan,
how many kids do you guys have now? By the way,
remind us we have eight eight daughters.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Eight daughters. Wow, you know what.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I gotta be honest with you, man, that's a lot
of weddings you're going to be paying for, big boy as.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh, tell me about it. Tell me about it, man,
I mean, it's what keeps me up at night. I mean,
these girls, it's like chaos. It's and that's what we
know now. I mean, you got eight daughters, and I
got my oldest is twenty, my youngest is three years old,
and then we got everybody in between, and it's it's
all going. It's like chickens with the heads cut off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Let me call it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you
a question. Right, I'm sure you've had this question before.
You got You got eight daughters, eight gorgeous beautiful daughters.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Are you gonna go for nine and go for the
sun or you done?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No? We're done, man, We got that. We got that issue.
Thick a fig done. I only can squeeze out so
much money out of my wallet.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Lug it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, you had his trick.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're gonna get down a different road, and then you
pivoted by the way. Well before we talk to you
about what's going on with Dan Millston Man, one of
your best buddies, former teammate of years over at you
double get to that in just a second, because I
want to give you a chance to really kind of
talk about what he means to you and what's going
on with him and his family. Why don't you just
(01:58):
give us an update because we haven't talked to you
in a while on just everything happening on Mottlake and
the new era of college football, and what your take
is on what's happening at your beloved you dub.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, No man, you know it's it's what's been chaotic,
It's been crazy. I mean college football has went, you know,
and the genies out of the bottle. Guys are making
big money. I've I've spent time over at Montlake. I've
cam Ali. Sarah does a great job with the alumni
outreach and getting guys back to Mottlake, and coach Fish
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loves having alumni around, so getting a chance to meet
the guys. But also the nil world has just really
taken over college football. And they call it in il,
but really it's just they're paying these guys to come
play football at a university and it's one of those
things where you know, to me, they have to find
a way to get this under control, because before you
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know it, guys are going to be fighting, right they
are now to stay in college because they're making four, five,
six seven million a year playing college football. I obviously
played it in the wrong era. I would have definitely
tried to get as much money as I could to
back in the day, but It's one of those things
now where to me, college football is totally different than
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it was when I played and when a lot of
guys played back in the day. But talking about the
Huskies in general, I'm really excited. I mean people don't
talk enough about Coach Fish and what he's done in
this program, that the vision, what he's building on Montlake
and he's really invested in the future. I mean looking at,
you know, building different things around Montlake to be one
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of the best elite institution when it comes to college football.
The recruiting class that we have come in the top
recruiting class ever at the University of Washington for twenty
twenty six, I mean, there's so many good things going on. Obviously,
some of that stuff was overshadowed with what happened with
our quarterback for forty eight hours that everybody talks about
and everybody brings up. But it's one of those things
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for me where I'm I'm really excited. I mean, I've
been around the locker room. I've seen the guys from
the transformation that Coach Fish has made from his first
year to what these guys look like, what the roster
looks like now, is is totally a one eighty to
where this team is definitely able to get back to
where we belong is and compete for a spot in
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the college football playoffs. So I'm really excited. Man. It's
one of those things whereas a former player, you know,
it's it's kind of like that angry old man, you know,
yelling at the cloud about the nil and guys getting
paid and all that stuff. But but really the product
on the field has gotten amazing because you got guys
that are I mean really you know, they're fighting for
their life, they're making lots of money. I mean, these
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guys are playing longer in college, so the products is
even better on TV. So I don't see this slowing down.
I'm hoping there's some way that we can kind of
get maybe some some rules in place to where everybody's
on the same playing field. But you know, I just
want to give coach Fish in that staff a ton
of credit that they recruit their by talk. They're building
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for the future, they're invested here, and they got a
great roster of guys that I think is gonna do
a lot of big things in the Big Ten this year.
And I'm excited, man. So that's that's kind of where
I'm out with with you, dub and and it's one
of those things where I am all u ub all
the time. You guys know if you followed me on Twitter.
So that's that's what it's all about. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh yeah, you're all over at Jordan Refitt, former defensive
lineman of the Dogs, joining and said, I want to
follow up on something you said there because I agree
with you said the very beginning, you said, I don't
think Jedfish gets enough credit.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I totally agree with you. Yeah, I do not think Husky.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nation has invested their hearts in Jedfish. I really don't so.
And if you agree with that, why do you think
that is?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, I agree one hundred percent. I think a lot
of it is because of the You know, these college
football fans are so scared to invest into even players
and coaches now because of the fact that they leave
right they leave. And I understand you know that a
little bit. But coach Fist has really set roots here.
He's always building for the future. He's not thinking about
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just this year. He's talking about five ten years down
the road. Will he be here We don't know, but
he wants to be here. He wants Washington to be great.
He thinks Washington is an elite destination. He left Arizona,
which was a really good situation where he was at
to come to Washington to compete for championships, and he's
building that here. And I think a lot of it
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is is that you see the Michigan job opening, you
see the Florida job opening, and guys are scared because
of what happened with coach de Bor. We have such
a good thing going. He was such a great guy
and he was so I mean with the turnaround at
dub when he was here. So people are just a
little gunshy. But it's time to really buy into this program.
It really is. Invest in this program. Buy season tickets,
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get behind the players, get behind the staff, because these
guys are working their butts off man And I'm really
impressed with how he does things as a CEO. He
looks at things really from everywhere from you know, the
top dog all the way down to the janitor. He
has his hands and everything because he wants to be great.
And I'm really excited. I think, you know, like you said,
(07:10):
fans really need to now, hey, get on board, get
on the jet. Fish train because it's going, man, and
we're gonna have a great team moving into this fall. Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Jordan refit with us on the radio show, and Jordan,
uh wanted to have you on for a couple of reasons. Uh,
to talk Huskies obviously, and we'll we'll we'll visit again
over the spring and summer and into the fall and
and talk some more football. But the spotlight now is
is not on the field. It's on your former teammate, man,
a guy that you played defensive line with over at
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you Dubb. Dan Milston is in the fight of his life.
He's got he's talking about your family. He's got two
young sons, I believe as well. Uh tell people what's
going on with Dan if they don't know, Man, fill
us in.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
No, absolutely, Man, this is this is one of the
hardest things that I've I've ever had to deal with,
you know, on a personal level. Uh, seeing you know
my friend of twenty plus years, you know, go through
a battle like this. You know, six weeks ago, he's
having stomach problems. He goes into the doctor, he finds
out that you know that that he might have cancer.
(08:14):
And then you fast forward six weeks and he has
the worst type of cancer. He's got co erected cancer
stage four. He's also got the really bad terminal issue.
And I don't know all the names, but it's a
it's a it's a carcinoma or amatistic it's a really
bad type of cancer.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And it's terminal.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And the guy is trying, really trying and fighting. I mean,
the guy is such a fighter because you know, he
went through so much at you Dub, You know, he
was better than me, better than all those guys that
played around him at the time, and he got hurt.
You know, he ended his career an Oregon State offensive lineman,
came down and broke his tibia fibley. This dislocated his ankle,
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but he was on tract to be an NFL player.
He was one of the biggest, strongest guys in the program.
Coach hart Will will definitely let you know he remembers
him as well. And it's one of those things where
he's been through so much and he has a beautiful family.
He's got two boys six and eight years old that
are just getting to where you know, I see Dan
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and him so much. And his mother, Rebecca, who's amazing,
who's who's being so strong during this time. But it's
one of those things where you never think it's gonna happen.
He's a young guy. He's a big, strong guy. He
looks amazing. I see him a couple of months ago.
You know, big strong guy, looks great, you know, feels great.
All of a sudden, you get some stomach problems. You
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go to the doctor and you know, a couple of
weeks go by and they tell you, hey, you have
terminal cancer. And it's such a shock to the system.
Softy and Dick, I mean, I just the guy would
take his shirt off his back. He's been to Moses Lake.
He loves it here. I got him into country music.
He's from Tacoma, p Ugh, alif area.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and he's one.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Of those guys. He my wife loves him to death.
He has the biggest smile in the world. And my
wife always talks about and it's emotional too, because he
was in my wedding twenty years ago or twenty plus
years ago as one of my groomsmen were really you know,
kind of that prime of our life playing football and
his smile lights up a room man and we got
(10:21):
to fight for him, you know, we got to fight
for him and his family. Like I said, his wife,
Rebecca's being so strong. His mother and father are the
sweetest people, Marty and Moury Milston, Rebecca Milston, his wife,
his brother Mark. I mean, they've been so accommodating. We
have thirty, forty, fifty sixty guys coming in to see
Dan because he was so beloved. I mean, we got
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guys flying in from California, Arizona, Texas to come see
Dan because he changed their life in a positive way
and they need help. Man. I mean, you got a guy.
We're trying everything we can. I mean, he's a young,
strong guy. We're trying everything we can to keep fighting
to give him some more time with his boys. And
that's one of the main reasons I wanted to come
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on and really pull on the heartstrings, to really tell
people if you have anything, it can be five dollars,
it could be five thousand dollars. Whatever you have private
donate if you can to our GoFundMe for Dan and
his family and his boys, because this is such a
I mean it's you know, you hear about this happening,
and to me, until you see it close up, you
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don't really know, you don't really know. I see this
guy that is larger than life, biggest smile in the world, stronger,
and he's wasting away in a hospital bed because of
this terrible disease. And you know, it's one of those
things where we want all my teammates, they're all listening
right now, they all want everyone to come together, Husky
(11:48):
Nation and really everybody to come together and try to
help Dan and his family.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, it's well said, man, and there's a GoFundMe. You've
put it out. I put it out on X just
retweeted your post as well, So that's probably the easiest spot.
We'll do the same thing from the radio station account
here Jordan as well. But fifty thousand dollars raised so far,
and his family's gonna need help. He's gonna need help, right,
(12:13):
and all of this is expensive unfortunately, man. So if
you can donate, great, if you can share whatever you
can share, I know the family would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Jordan would, and so would we.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So Dan Milston's got colon cancer terminal stage four, in
the fight of his life obviously right now, with two
young sons six and eight years old, and there's a
GoFundMe that is set up right now, so check x
and check Twitter on my account and other accounts as well,
including Jordan's on the radio station for the link to that.
So all right, man, listen, good stuff, Jordan, keep us
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up to date on Dan's health, man, and feel free
to jump on whenever you want and talk dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All right, buddy, event I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You guys so much. I love you guys. Thank you
so much, and thank you and go Dan and go
with family.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
All right, man, Jordan Reffitt right there, who's obviously helping
spread the word about Dan Milston. Man, So jump on
the web and if you can donate, phenomenal. Man. Would
love to have as much help as we can get
to help out Dan and his family. We'll get a break.
You said something interesting there about Jedfish. I want to
respond to and get some thoughts next. On ninety three
three KJRFM, Jordan Reffit was on with us last segment
(13:21):
talking some dogs, and you brought up the fact that
you don't think Husky Nation is embracing Jedfish.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't even know if that's a hot take at all. Yeah,
I mean, I think that's a lukewarm take it rest well.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That you well, And that's the reason why I bring
it up because when you brought it up, I looked
over at you and you were you were like hot,
you were getting like pissed, like you know, John Wilner
was taking shots of the dogs pist Yeah, yesterday I
got some.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
John Wilner numbers you want when we talked. We'll do
it next week when he is on. But I mean,
uh yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Think you're exactly right that I I don't think Husky
Nation has embraced Jedfish, and I don't think it's got
any thing all to do with anything he's doing now.
I think Jedfish is working his balls off at you, dub,
and I've said that consistently for the last.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Year and a half. I think he's a hard worker.
I think he is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
He is killing it, recruiting everything he's talking about doing
for the football team. I've never heard of football coach
at Washington Kaitlin de boor Steve Sarkejian Don James, Jim Lambright,
anybody Rick Neuheisel who knows more about everything happening around
the program than Jedfish does.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean go back to even like last year he
was talking about these they got these boots that players
wear when they're rehabbing from injuries, and he was talking
about how we got to have more of these and
this how much they cost, this is who makes them,
and blah blah blah blah blah. I mean, just all
these details about all these things happening at Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So I don't have any doubt at all.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I feel very comfortable Dick saying that Jedfish is working
his nuts off while he's on the job.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I just don't think.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's going to be here very long period, and that
just clouds everything for me. But I think it clouds
everything for Husky agents. Right, But you don't hold that
against Jed do you? Uh, that he's not going to
be here very long? Yeah, that he doesn't want to
be here long term at Washington.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I haven't really noticed you against it. Well, But how
would I hold it against him?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, because I'm what I'm saying is that that Jedfish
from the very beginning, I think Husky fans just decided, well,
he's not going to be here, so I'm not going
to embrace him, and we're gonna get to a point
potentially where Jedfish could be here four or five years.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He I don't feel like he's ever gonna shake that
initial feeling by Husky fans.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think I think most Husky fans I talk to,
their feeling is that the first doorway that Jedfish has
to leave Seattle that is a legit doorway.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
He's taken it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, so when Boor did but ran like to Boralen
de Bore went to a national title game, That's why
I like kaaln de Boor. Okay, if Jed Fish goes
to a national title game, and I've told you this
on the air, If Jed Fish pulls a Kaitlin de
Boer and goes to a national championship game in year three,
which is it's this third year now, right, and he
takes off, fine, great whatever, go do that, all right?
(16:20):
If that's the stage of life that we're in now,
is college football fans, where coaches come here and have
great success and then bolt and we're replacing a new
guy every three years. But the next guy goes to
a championship game, then I'm fine with that, but he
hasn't done that yet. He hasn't had the success that
Kaitlin de Boor had. Obviously, he's got a totally different
context than what Klen de Boor had to work with, obviously,
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because the entire roster got blown to bitch. But again,
I don't know how else to say it. I think
he's working very hard. I think he's doing as good
a job as can be done given the circumstances he inherited.
But I also don't think he's long for the job.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, I think it's really hard to come apartmentalize the
job that Jedfish has done from Jedfish's past pre Washington,
like everything kind of just goes into the same bag,
and it's really hard to look at just you know,
if you're in if you're in an art museum and
you're looking at two pictures right next to each other,
at least I think if you're standing far enough back,
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like if Husky fans are in this scenario, it's hard
to just focus in on one and not the whole thing.
And when you look at the whole picture, it's a
guy who just jumps and just jumps and jumps and
jumps and jumps, and it's hard to look at this
picture and say it's always going to stay as this picture.
There's going to be another picture. The reality is Jedfish
his last job of his career will not be the
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Washington Huskies head coach, right, And it's really hard to
look at this second picture and say, yeah, we're only
gonna look at this. We know that there's gonna be
another picture, and we all think that picture is gonna
go up soon.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Let me ask you this just a question when you
say embrace him, like Jordan said that as well, right, yeah,
what does that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What does that mean when you say, like, embrace the coach.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Be happy and proud that he's our coach right now,
and not look to the future of what he may
do a year, two or three years. Can't we judge
Jedfish at the end of his Husky tenure instead of
at the beginning of his Husky tenure because he is
the first coach I can ever remember that Husky Nation
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judged from day one. I don't remember any other coach,
but I just Husky Nation judge from day one.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I mean, he's being judged on the job he's doing
right now. But eventually, I believe he's going to coach
for somebody else.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
How is that different than any other coach in America?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, I never Well, first of all, I never thought
that when Klein was here. I never thought that when
Chris Peterson was here. I never thought that when Don
James or Rick Neuheiser here in some of those different eras,
of course, but that's why we feel the way we
do because of exactly the era that we're in. And
I don't feel that way about any on the roster.
I told you after Deman pulled the crapp he pulled
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a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm year to hear, dude. So you're seeing here to
hear whatever is. Maybe I'm hearing you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Maybe you're saying this is more of a doesn't matter
who the Husky coach is. I'm that way about them
just because that's there. And maybe Jed is a little
ahead of his time and jumping around because it's not
what I'm saying. Look at all these other coaches in
their thirties and forties right now, they're doing the same thing.
Look at Jake dickerd for God's sake, I mean, they're
doing the same thing Jed Fish has been doing for
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ten years.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Who's the guy from New Mexico State that everybody's high on.
What's his name or New Mexico Jason Eck? Is that
his name? They went out and hired a guy like
a Jason Eck. I might think, Hey, this guy's got
a chance to be here for a while, But then
I'd be reminded of how naive that is to think that. So,
I mean when you say embrace him, he's my coach,
I'm happy he's the coach of the Huskies. He's working
his ass off, he's doing a great job. I don't
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think he'll be here long term. All of those things
are reality for me. Everything is the part of the
stew Now, maybe it bothers you that people talk about
him potentially leaving. Maybe that's what you're getting at that
you want that talk to stop and you want folks
to just worry.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
About today because I don't think it helps the program
and think about base.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Uh, but again, like you just said, though, that's reality.
I mean, you had a quarterback that tried to leave
and couldn't leave, and that's why he's here. So you
want the fans to stop talking about people leaving when
all people do is try to leave and then they
get stuck and they have to come back. I mean,
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it stinks. I hate it, Dick. I'm totally with you
in that regard. I think it's horrible. I would love
to sit here as a Husky football fan and say,
Jordan Washington, who's going to be the premier running.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Back because everybody else took off? Right? I want to
really embrace this guy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Man, he's got a chance to go after Kaufman's records
and Gaskin's records and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Demon Williams, Man, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Two more years of demand, you know this year and
next year to I know he's going to be here
next season, in twenty twenty seven. I got no idea.
I don't have any idea what this roster will look
like in two years from now. That is the current
state of college football. You're exactly right. That's not a
narrative on Washington. That is a commentary on the state
of the game. And if that ever changes, then great,
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But I for my well being, I'm looking at every
Husky football season as a one year entity. I got
no idea what's going to happen next year or the
year after that or the year after that. I do
know again, I'm really happy with the job Jed's doing.
I think he's busting his ass at Washington. But I think,
like most coaches, like you just said, in college football, eventually,
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and maybe even sooner than we think, he is gonna
not beat.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The coach at Washington anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I just think we have a basketball coach that has
gone from Montana State to Utah State to Washington. Right,
We've got a football coach that's gone from Arizona Washington,
and yet they're not treated the same by Husky Nation.
Probably the Husky Nas likes Danny Sprinkle more than they
like Jed Fish.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think they probably think that because they're just more
invested in football than they are basketball.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I mean, football is the ten thousand pounds whale that
makes the whole thing go, right. I Mean, there's just,
let's face it, Dick, there's not a lot of passion
right now for you to have basketball, period.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
On any side. We're going to break JT the brick.
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Max Crosby, klink Kobi act they like him so far.
We'll find out next
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Speaker 1 (00:14):
And I was just thinking to myself heading into the segment, guys,
and Jordan Reffitt is going to join us here from you, Dub,
the former Husky defensive lineman.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
What number is bigger, by the way, the number.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of people that work for this radio station, or the
number of kids that Jordan Reffitt and his wife have
the app I think it's like eighteen or nineteen. Now, Jordan,
how many kids do you guys have now? By the way,
remind us we have eight eight daughters.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Eight daughters. Wow, you know what.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
I gotta be honest with you, man, that's a lot
of weddings you're going to be paying for, big boy as.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Oh, tell me about it. Tell me about it, man,
I mean, it's what keeps me up at night. I mean,
these girls, it's like chaos. It's and that's what we
know now. I mean, you got eight daughters, and I
got my oldest is twenty, my youngest is three years old,
and then we got everybody in between, and it's it's
all going. It's like chickens with the heads cut off.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Let me call it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Let me ask you a question. Let me ask you
a question. Right, I'm sure you've had this question before.
You got You got eight daughters, eight gorgeous beautiful daughters.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Are you gonna go for nine and go for the
sun or you done?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
No? We're done, man, We got that. We got that issue.
Thick a fig done. I only can squeeze out so
much money out of my wallet.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Lug it.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Yeah, you had his trick.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
You're gonna get down a different road, and then you
pivoted by the way. Well before we talk to you
about what's going on with Dan Millston Man, one of
your best buddies, former teammate of years over at you
double get to that in just a second, because I
want to give you a chance to really kind of
talk about what he means to you and what's going
on with him and his family. Why don't you just
(01:58):
give us an update because we haven't talked to you
in a while on just everything happening on Mottlake and
the new era of college football, and what your take
is on what's happening at your beloved you dub.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Man, No man, you know it's it's what's been chaotic,
It's been crazy. I mean college football has went, you know,
and the genies out of the bottle. Guys are making
big money. I've I've spent time over at Montlake. I've
cam Ali. Sarah does a great job with the alumni
outreach and getting guys back to Mottlake, and coach Fish
(02:29):
loves having alumni around, so getting a chance to meet
the guys. But also the nil world has just really
taken over college football. And they call it in il,
but really it's just they're paying these guys to come
play football at a university and it's one of those
things where you know, to me, they have to find
a way to get this under control, because before you
(02:52):
know it, guys are going to be fighting, right they
are now to stay in college because they're making four, five,
six seven million a year playing college football. I obviously
played it in the wrong era. I would have definitely
tried to get as much money as I could to
back in the day, but It's one of those things
now where to me, college football is totally different than
(03:14):
it was when I played and when a lot of
guys played back in the day. But talking about the
Huskies in general, I'm really excited. I mean people don't
talk enough about Coach Fish and what he's done in
this program, that the vision, what he's building on Montlake
and he's really invested in the future. I mean looking at,
you know, building different things around Montlake to be one
(03:35):
of the best elite institution when it comes to college football.
The recruiting class that we have come in the top
recruiting class ever at the University of Washington for twenty
twenty six, I mean, there's so many good things going on. Obviously,
some of that stuff was overshadowed with what happened with
our quarterback for forty eight hours that everybody talks about
and everybody brings up. But it's one of those things
(03:58):
for me where I'm I'm really excited. I mean, I've
been around the locker room. I've seen the guys from
the transformation that Coach Fish has made from his first
year to what these guys look like, what the roster
looks like now, is is totally a one eighty to
where this team is definitely able to get back to
where we belong is and compete for a spot in
(04:21):
the college football playoffs. So I'm really excited. Man. It's
one of those things whereas a former player, you know,
it's it's kind of like that angry old man, you know,
yelling at the cloud about the nil and guys getting
paid and all that stuff. But but really the product
on the field has gotten amazing because you got guys
that are I mean really you know, they're fighting for
their life, they're making lots of money. I mean, these
(04:41):
guys are playing longer in college, so the products is
even better on TV. So I don't see this slowing down.
I'm hoping there's some way that we can kind of
get maybe some some rules in place to where everybody's
on the same playing field. But you know, I just
want to give coach Fish in that staff a ton
of credit that they recruit their by talk. They're building
(05:01):
for the future, they're invested here, and they got a
great roster of guys that I think is gonna do
a lot of big things in the Big Ten this year.
And I'm excited, man. So that's that's kind of where
I'm out with with you, dub and and it's one
of those things where I am all u ub all
the time. You guys know if you followed me on Twitter.
So that's that's what it's all about. Man.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Oh yeah, you're all over at Jordan Refitt, former defensive
lineman of the Dogs, joining and said, I want to
follow up on something you said there because I agree
with you said the very beginning, you said, I don't
think Jedfish gets enough credit.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I totally agree with you. Yeah, I do not think Husky.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Nation has invested their hearts in Jedfish. I really don't so.
And if you agree with that, why do you think
that is?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, I agree one hundred percent. I think a lot
of it is because of the You know, these college
football fans are so scared to invest into even players
and coaches now because of the fact that they leave
right they leave. And I understand you know that a
little bit. But coach Fist has really set roots here.
He's always building for the future. He's not thinking about
(06:05):
just this year. He's talking about five ten years down
the road. Will he be here We don't know, but
he wants to be here. He wants Washington to be great.
He thinks Washington is an elite destination. He left Arizona,
which was a really good situation where he was at
to come to Washington to compete for championships, and he's
building that here. And I think a lot of it
(06:26):
is is that you see the Michigan job opening, you
see the Florida job opening, and guys are scared because
of what happened with coach de Bor. We have such
a good thing going. He was such a great guy
and he was so I mean with the turnaround at
dub when he was here. So people are just a
little gunshy. But it's time to really buy into this program.
It really is. Invest in this program. Buy season tickets,
(06:50):
get behind the players, get behind the staff, because these
guys are working their butts off man And I'm really
impressed with how he does things as a CEO. He
looks at things really from everywhere from you know, the
top dog all the way down to the janitor. He
has his hands and everything because he wants to be great.
And I'm really excited. I think, you know, like you said,
(07:10):
fans really need to now, hey, get on board, get
on the jet. Fish train because it's going, man, and
we're gonna have a great team moving into this fall. Uh.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Jordan refit with us on the radio show, and Jordan,
uh wanted to have you on for a couple of reasons. Uh,
to talk Huskies obviously, and we'll we'll we'll visit again
over the spring and summer and into the fall and
and talk some more football. But the spotlight now is
is not on the field. It's on your former teammate, man,
a guy that you played defensive line with over at
(07:39):
you Dubb. Dan Milston is in the fight of his life.
He's got he's talking about your family. He's got two
young sons, I believe as well. Uh tell people what's
going on with Dan if they don't know, Man, fill
us in.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
No, absolutely, Man, this is this is one of the
hardest things that I've I've ever had to deal with,
you know, on a personal level. Uh, seeing you know
my friend of twenty plus years, you know, go through
a battle like this. You know, six weeks ago, he's
having stomach problems. He goes into the doctor, he finds
out that you know that that he might have cancer.
(08:14):
And then you fast forward six weeks and he has
the worst type of cancer. He's got co erected cancer
stage four. He's also got the really bad terminal issue.
And I don't know all the names, but it's a
it's a it's a carcinoma or amatistic it's a really
bad type of cancer.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And it's terminal.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
And the guy is trying, really trying and fighting. I mean,
the guy is such a fighter because you know, he
went through so much at you Dub, You know, he
was better than me, better than all those guys that
played around him at the time, and he got hurt.
You know, he ended his career an Oregon State offensive lineman,
came down and broke his tibia fibley. This dislocated his ankle,
(08:57):
but he was on tract to be an NFL player.
He was one of the biggest, strongest guys in the program.
Coach hart Will will definitely let you know he remembers
him as well. And it's one of those things where
he's been through so much and he has a beautiful family.
He's got two boys six and eight years old that
are just getting to where you know, I see Dan
(09:17):
and him so much. And his mother, Rebecca, who's amazing,
who's who's being so strong during this time. But it's
one of those things where you never think it's gonna happen.
He's a young guy. He's a big, strong guy. He
looks amazing. I see him a couple of months ago.
You know, big strong guy, looks great, you know, feels great.
All of a sudden, you get some stomach problems. You
(09:38):
go to the doctor and you know, a couple of
weeks go by and they tell you, hey, you have
terminal cancer. And it's such a shock to the system.
Softy and Dick, I mean, I just the guy would
take his shirt off his back. He's been to Moses Lake.
He loves it here. I got him into country music.
He's from Tacoma, p Ugh, alif area.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Yeah, and he's one.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Of those guys. He my wife loves him to death.
He has the biggest smile in the world. And my
wife always talks about and it's emotional too, because he
was in my wedding twenty years ago or twenty plus
years ago as one of my groomsmen were really you know,
kind of that prime of our life playing football and
his smile lights up a room man and we got
(10:21):
to fight for him, you know, we got to fight
for him and his family. Like I said, his wife,
Rebecca's being so strong. His mother and father are the
sweetest people, Marty and Moury Milston, Rebecca Milston, his wife,
his brother Mark. I mean, they've been so accommodating. We
have thirty, forty, fifty sixty guys coming in to see
Dan because he was so beloved. I mean, we got
(10:43):
guys flying in from California, Arizona, Texas to come see
Dan because he changed their life in a positive way
and they need help. Man. I mean, you got a guy.
We're trying everything we can. I mean, he's a young,
strong guy. We're trying everything we can to keep fighting
to give him some more time with his boys. And
that's one of the main reasons I wanted to come
(11:04):
on and really pull on the heartstrings, to really tell
people if you have anything, it can be five dollars,
it could be five thousand dollars. Whatever you have private
donate if you can to our GoFundMe for Dan and
his family and his boys, because this is such a
I mean it's you know, you hear about this happening,
and to me, until you see it close up, you
(11:28):
don't really know, you don't really know. I see this
guy that is larger than life, biggest smile in the world, stronger,
and he's wasting away in a hospital bed because of
this terrible disease. And you know, it's one of those
things where we want all my teammates, they're all listening
right now, they all want everyone to come together, Husky
(11:48):
Nation and really everybody to come together and try to
help Dan and his family.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
Well, it's well said, man, and there's a GoFundMe. You've
put it out. I put it out on X just
retweeted your post as well, So that's probably the easiest spot.
We'll do the same thing from the radio station account
here Jordan as well. But fifty thousand dollars raised so far,
and his family's gonna need help. He's gonna need help, right,
(12:13):
and all of this is expensive unfortunately, man. So if
you can donate, great, if you can share whatever you
can share, I know the family would appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Jordan would, and so would we.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
So Dan Milston's got colon cancer terminal stage four, in
the fight of his life obviously right now, with two
young sons six and eight years old, and there's a
GoFundMe that is set up right now, so check x
and check Twitter on my account and other accounts as well,
including Jordan's on the radio station for the link to that.
So all right, man, listen, good stuff, Jordan, keep us
(12:45):
up to date on Dan's health, man, and feel free
to jump on whenever you want and talk dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
All right, buddy, event I appreciate.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
You guys so much. I love you guys. Thank you
so much, and thank you and go Dan and go
with family.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Thank you guys.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
All right, man, Jordan Reffitt right there, who's obviously helping
spread the word about Dan Milston. Man, So jump on
the web and if you can donate, phenomenal. Man. Would
love to have as much help as we can get
to help out Dan and his family. We'll get a break.
You said something interesting there about Jedfish. I want to
respond to and get some thoughts next. On ninety three
three KJRFM, Jordan Reffit was on with us last segment
(13:21):
talking some dogs, and you brought up the fact that
you don't think Husky Nation is embracing Jedfish.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I don't even know if that's a hot take at all. Yeah,
I mean, I think that's a lukewarm take it rest well.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
That you well, And that's the reason why I bring
it up because when you brought it up, I looked
over at you and you were you were like hot,
you were getting like pissed, like you know, John Wilner
was taking shots of the dogs pist Yeah, yesterday I
got some.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
John Wilner numbers you want when we talked. We'll do
it next week when he is on. But I mean,
uh yeah, I mean, I.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Think you're exactly right that I I don't think Husky
Nation has embraced Jedfish, and I don't think it's got
any thing all to do with anything he's doing now.
I think Jedfish is working his balls off at you, dub,
and I've said that consistently for the last.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Year and a half. I think he's a hard worker.
I think he is.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
He is killing it, recruiting everything he's talking about doing
for the football team. I've never heard of football coach
at Washington Kaitlin de boor Steve Sarkejian Don James, Jim Lambright,
anybody Rick Neuheisel who knows more about everything happening around
the program than Jedfish does.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean go back to even like last year he
was talking about these they got these boots that players
wear when they're rehabbing from injuries, and he was talking
about how we got to have more of these and
this how much they cost, this is who makes them,
and blah blah blah blah blah. I mean, just all
these details about all these things happening at Washington.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
So I don't have any doubt at all.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I feel very comfortable Dick saying that Jedfish is working
his nuts off while he's on the job.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I just don't think.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
He's going to be here very long period, and that
just clouds everything for me. But I think it clouds
everything for Husky agents. Right, But you don't hold that
against Jed do you? Uh, that he's not going to
be here very long? Yeah, that he doesn't want to
be here long term at Washington.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I haven't really noticed you against it. Well, But how
would I hold it against him?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Well, because I'm what I'm saying is that that Jedfish
from the very beginning, I think Husky fans just decided, well,
he's not going to be here, so I'm not going
to embrace him, and we're gonna get to a point
potentially where Jedfish could be here four or five years.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yes, and and.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
He I don't feel like he's ever gonna shake that
initial feeling by Husky fans.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I think I think most Husky fans I talk to,
their feeling is that the first doorway that Jedfish has
to leave Seattle that is a legit doorway.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
He's taken it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, so when Boor did but ran like to Boralen
de Bore went to a national title game, That's why
I like kaaln de Boor. Okay, if Jed Fish goes
to a national title game, and I've told you this
on the air, If Jed Fish pulls a Kaitlin de
Boer and goes to a national championship game in year three,
which is it's this third year now, right, and he
takes off, fine, great whatever, go do that, all right?
(16:20):
If that's the stage of life that we're in now,
is college football fans, where coaches come here and have
great success and then bolt and we're replacing a new
guy every three years. But the next guy goes to
a championship game, then I'm fine with that, but he
hasn't done that yet. He hasn't had the success that
Kaitlin de Boor had. Obviously, he's got a totally different
context than what Klen de Boor had to work with, obviously,
(16:42):
because the entire roster got blown to bitch. But again,
I don't know how else to say it. I think
he's working very hard. I think he's doing as good
a job as can be done given the circumstances he inherited.
But I also don't think he's long for the job.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Yeah, I think it's really hard to come apartmentalize the
job that Jedfish has done from Jedfish's past pre Washington,
like everything kind of just goes into the same bag,
and it's really hard to look at just you know,
if you're in if you're in an art museum and
you're looking at two pictures right next to each other,
at least I think if you're standing far enough back,
(17:19):
like if Husky fans are in this scenario, it's hard
to just focus in on one and not the whole thing.
And when you look at the whole picture, it's a
guy who just jumps and just jumps and jumps and
jumps and jumps, and it's hard to look at this
picture and say it's always going to stay as this picture.
There's going to be another picture. The reality is Jedfish
his last job of his career will not be the
(17:40):
Washington Huskies head coach, right, And it's really hard to
look at this second picture and say, yeah, we're only
gonna look at this. We know that there's gonna be
another picture, and we all think that picture is gonna
go up soon.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Let me ask you this just a question when you
say embrace him, like Jordan said that as well, right, yeah,
what does that mean to you?
Speaker 2 (17:58):
What does that mean when you say, like, embrace the coach.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Be happy and proud that he's our coach right now,
and not look to the future of what he may
do a year, two or three years. Can't we judge
Jedfish at the end of his Husky tenure instead of
at the beginning of his Husky tenure because he is
the first coach I can ever remember that Husky Nation
(18:22):
judged from day one. I don't remember any other coach,
but I just Husky Nation judge from day one.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
I mean, he's being judged on the job he's doing
right now. But eventually, I believe he's going to coach
for somebody else.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
How is that different than any other coach in America?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
Well, I never Well, first of all, I never thought
that when Klein was here. I never thought that when
Chris Peterson was here. I never thought that when Don
James or Rick Neuheiser here in some of those different eras,
of course, but that's why we feel the way we
do because of exactly the era that we're in. And
I don't feel that way about any on the roster.
I told you after Deman pulled the crapp he pulled
(19:03):
a couple of months ago.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
I'm year to hear, dude. So you're seeing here to
hear whatever is. Maybe I'm hearing you're wrong.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Maybe you're saying this is more of a doesn't matter
who the Husky coach is. I'm that way about them
just because that's there. And maybe Jed is a little
ahead of his time and jumping around because it's not
what I'm saying. Look at all these other coaches in
their thirties and forties right now, they're doing the same thing.
Look at Jake dickerd for God's sake, I mean, they're
doing the same thing Jed Fish has been doing for
(19:29):
ten years.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Who's the guy from New Mexico State that everybody's high on.
What's his name or New Mexico Jason Eck? Is that
his name? They went out and hired a guy like
a Jason Eck. I might think, Hey, this guy's got
a chance to be here for a while, But then
I'd be reminded of how naive that is to think that. So,
I mean when you say embrace him, he's my coach,
I'm happy he's the coach of the Huskies. He's working
his ass off, he's doing a great job. I don't
(19:53):
think he'll be here long term. All of those things
are reality for me. Everything is the part of the
stew Now, maybe it bothers you that people talk about
him potentially leaving. Maybe that's what you're getting at that
you want that talk to stop and you want folks
to just worry.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
About today because I don't think it helps the program
and think about base.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
Well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Uh, but again, like you just said, though, that's reality.
I mean, you had a quarterback that tried to leave
and couldn't leave, and that's why he's here. So you
want the fans to stop talking about people leaving when
all people do is try to leave and then they
get stuck and they have to come back. I mean,
(20:35):
it stinks. I hate it, Dick. I'm totally with you
in that regard. I think it's horrible. I would love
to sit here as a Husky football fan and say,
Jordan Washington, who's going to be the premier running.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Back because everybody else took off? Right? I want to
really embrace this guy.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Man, he's got a chance to go after Kaufman's records
and Gaskin's records and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Demon Williams, Man, you know.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Two more years of demand, you know this year and
next year to I know he's going to be here
next season, in twenty twenty seven. I got no idea.
I don't have any idea what this roster will look
like in two years from now. That is the current
state of college football. You're exactly right. That's not a
narrative on Washington. That is a commentary on the state
of the game. And if that ever changes, then great,
(21:19):
But I for my well being, I'm looking at every
Husky football season as a one year entity. I got
no idea what's going to happen next year or the
year after that or the year after that. I do
know again, I'm really happy with the job Jed's doing.
I think he's busting his ass at Washington. But I think,
like most coaches, like you just said, in college football, eventually,
(21:42):
and maybe even sooner than we think, he is gonna
not beat.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
The coach at Washington anymore.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I just think we have a basketball coach that has
gone from Montana State to Utah State to Washington. Right,
We've got a football coach that's gone from Arizona Washington,
and yet they're not treated the same by Husky Nation.
Probably the Husky Nas likes Danny Sprinkle more than they
like Jed Fish.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I think they probably think that because they're just more
invested in football than they are basketball.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Honestly.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
I mean, football is the ten thousand pounds whale that
makes the whole thing go, right. I Mean, there's just,
let's face it, Dick, there's not a lot of passion
right now for you to have basketball, period.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
On any side. We're going to break JT the brick.
What's going on?
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Max Crosby, klink Kobi act they like him so far.
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