February 9, 2026 • 32 mins
In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain visit with Hugh Millen as he dives deeper into the Super Bowl championship for the Seahawks, the defensive performance and potential for the shutout, Sam Darnold’s game, the MVP, and a comparison to 2013.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, he's been putting on all the work, breaking this
thing down, sweating bullets, eating doritos, a couple of snack
packs to get him through the night, watching the tape
over and over and over again. To give us a
take on what really went down in Super Bowl sixty yesterday.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Our friend Huey Millen, how are you, man.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What's happening? Doing great?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Doing?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I don't know, man, I'm gonna lose my voice here
any second, so I'll make sure I get my best
questions out now, all right before my voice goes to hell.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But I don't know, man, Let's just start at the top.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Give you a shot to kind of view from you
thirty five forty thousand feet on not only what you
saw yesterday, but what you saw this franchise and this
team just do well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I feel like they were one year ahead given all
the changes. I think defensively you could say they were ready.
But offensively, were we ready for the Sea Arks to
set a franchise record for points? And? Uh, you know
clearly they were. They were not to the level of
the defense for the duration of the season, but they had
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their moments and the numbers don't lie, you can't set
a record. You know that they're the third highest scoring
team in the league, and and uh and then to
just carry this through the playoffs, to clean up the turnovers,
to uh, to do it enough, and then to really
be on a pace for a record setting historic type
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of u of a game until the fourth quarter. You
know they they they leake some oil from a yardage standpoint,
No big deal. It would have been nice to grow
grab history when it was twelve to nothing after the
third quarter. Yes, and uh, and and you're on a
pace to hold the Patriots to one hundred and four
total yards for a Super Bowl, so there was records
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to be you know, you were really gonna you know
what the conversation would have been this morning on the
national talk shows is is where does this defense rank
all time?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Uh? If you know, if you know, had they been
the only team to get the shut out, et cetera.
But they've still got a chance to chase that next year.
And you know, I for you know, I probably should
keep my mouth shut on this because it's not important,
but we as friends. I'll speak more as a fan
now than an analyst. I like this team more than
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the twenty thirteen. I love the twenty thirteen. That was
a thrill. Cam Chancellor is my favorite Seahawk of all time.
If I had, I don't. I'm not a jersey wearing guy.
I think that's great if that's if that's your thing, wonderful.
I love to see all the jerseys. If I had
to wear a jersey, it'd be Cam Chancellor. But this
team is more, you know, particularly at the top Mike McDonald,
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Sam Donal just straight up very simple. I like Mike
McDonald more than Bete Carroll, and I like Sam Donald
more than Russell Wilson. So I am I feel really
just viscerally connected from a rooting standpoint. I just thought
it was delightful on so many ways at that point
aside not necessary, But I don't know. This team is
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so dog unlikable that it's just it's not just that
they're the Seahawks. I think many of you say, hey,
if you says Sea how Seahawks, that's the name of
your team, I'll like you, you know, unless you're almost
a complete band of knuckle hits. But these guys on
top of that make it so easy. There's so many
great storylines about the people that these guys are. You know,
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I'm just write me down. I'm in for all of it, Hugh.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
We have so many TV guys out there that are
prone to hyperbole. Chris collins Worth is not one of
those guys. And Chris collins Worth yesterday and the broadcast
said this defensive performance is as good as I've ever seen.
Talk about that comment, particularly coming from him, And do
you think it was a better defensive performance than forty
three to eight?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh, that's a great question. I mean, you'd give the
nod to Denver in terms of their offensive formidability. And
now obviously Drake May you know, he comes in as
the run up to the MVP. This is not like
you're playing you know, Tony Easton Patriots or you know,
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the I'm trying to think that I was going to
say Ravens Yeah, Kerry Commers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kerry
collins in twenty yep. So I would say at the end,
you know, the the problem with the Super Bowl is
is that posterity is going to look at the numbers
and the problem for the run at history is that
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you know, you gave up nineteen twenty five for two
hundred and thirty five yards in the fourth quarter alone
to Drake May. So I think that that's going to
hurt their their their image. But I think that what
they did when you consider that the Patriot running backs
had forty two yards rushing. When you consider that, as
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we said, for three quarters Drake May. You know, I
was just sitting there thinking, Boston fans who've experienced Tom
I was thinking, how bad are they going to turn
on this guy right and just like write him off? Like,
oh this guy, you know, he's no Brady, like literally,
you know, the way Sam Darnold got turned off, you know,
shut off. I was wondering for the psyche of Drake
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May and how he would survive in New England. I
mean they they made him look like, you know, just
a JV quarterback at a high school. I mean it
was just incredible the futility that they forced the Patriot
offense into. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I said the same thing man that I don't want
to just discount what they did against Drake May. This
guy was the runner up in the MVP, and you said,
by what, Dick one vote?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I mean, this is a legit MVP candidate that they
made look like a clown for three quarters in that game.
I mean, Heuey, the guy's numbers overall aren't terrible. He
went nineteen for twenty five for two thirty four, two touchdowns,
two picks. In the fourth quarter, he was eight of
eighteen for sixty one after three. I mean, this was
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an ass kicking by this defense. But what struck me
about yesterday's game and I don't know how often they blitzed.
You can give us the numbers on that, but it
really felt like the blitzes were well timed. There was
one of them where I think New England had the
ball second and ten from like their own five yard line,
and they brought Nick off the left side Drake May's
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right side, and he turned and found Stevenson in the
flat for a big game. Outside of that, I don't
remember the defense getting caught with their pants down on
many blitzes in that game yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, not at all. I mean they blitzed a dB
at least one dB on ten plays. May was five
of ten for twenty two yards and interception had a
sack in there. The passer rating is sixteen point seven.
I mean, does that work for you? I mean they
dialed that up and you know, overall, if you'd just
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say the total of times where they rushed, they had
they had seven seven times where they rushed more than
four what's commonly called the blitz. Well, they they gave
up a thirteen yard completion and a seven yard completion.
Other than that they were either incomplete, two incompletes, an
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interception A well, I beg your pardon, there's a completion
for minus two, so we'll call that three completions and
then a sack of minus ten. That's how that's how
the numbers play out. Now they sound similar. The first
one I gave you is is what they did if
one defensive back or more blitz So those can be
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simulated pressures. You can bring a dB, drop a defensive lineman,
you only have a four man rush. Technically that's not
a blitz. So that's the first number I gave you.
The second one, as I said, seven times they blitzed,
and you know they didn't get burned, you know, because
they they have a zone blitzing behind it. It's not
just a zone blitz, it's it's a more complicated zone
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blitz than for example, the Patriots run Patriots running three
D three under. They ranted on that slant, for example,
to do injigba to the left sixteen yards. He kind
of dove it. The safety kind of reminded us of
Tyler Lockett. If you can remember that completion in the game,
that's a blitzing five three deep three under. Seattle does
it more with a two deep shell and the corners
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are either gonna trigger down into the flat or they're
gonna sink and go and follow deep based on a
relatively complicated array of releases by the slot receivers so
so and the outside receivers. So they're they're blitzes are potent,
they're disruptive, they're creating havoc, they're producing the kind of
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numbers that we're talking about, and yet they're not they're
not really putting themselves at risk because they steal. Hell,
they got two safeties back. You know, what are you
gonna do? You gonna hit a go route, Well, the
safety is gonna run over and make a play on
the side. They're gonna run a post runer, not with
the safety's on either half. So, so I think McDonald
is a general rule, feels like he's taking double bogie
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out of a play. When he calls these and you
know he's getting Birdie after birdie, and and when and
then on the uh on when when Witherspoon comes in
on one of those blitzes, that would be one of
the occasions that it was both a dB rushing and
a blitz.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And you know, I'm not gonna call that a birdie.
That's an eagle if we're gonna carry out that analogy,
and and uh hella and albatross you get a uh
you know, a hit hit fumbel whatever the hell it was,
nuosu and and a pick six in the Super Bowl.
You know that's that's just kind of how Mike McDonald
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dominated Josh McDaniel, who has six Super Bowl rings. You
look it up, all of Brady's Super Bowl rings for
the Patriots. Josh McDowell was coaching him in one form
or another and and was on that staff. So I
don't know, I just thought it was a clinic. Hugh.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You mentioned a couple months ago we asked you what
could derail this team and you brought out two things.
You said, this team will be derailed if the run
game breaks down and Sam Donald turns the ball over.
Why didn't the run game break down, And why did
Sam Donald only have four interceptions in his last ten
football games and becomes only the fourth quarterback to win
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the Super Bowl to not have any turnovers in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, wonderful, right, Well, first of all, I didn't see
the late season you know, kind of finding of the
of the running game where they had a period of
four games where they averaged one hundred and seventy two
yards and it was relatively tightly dispersed. I think it
was a low of one sixty one and a high
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of maybe one eighty. I'm somewhere in there. You know,
they're all right around that number, and they on the
outside zone. They used the athleticism of the of the
line as opposed to you know, being you know, uh
that their lack of physicality being a problem. They they
use their athleticism as a strength. And you know, four
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of the guys, certainly three your center, left guard, left
tackle are are are very athletic by their position standards.
Right guard with Bradford not not not so much obviously.
And then and Abe Lucas is playing his ass off.
Maybe not as good athlete, but he's a he's got
a nice blend of athleticism and power with him and
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and Uh, I think K nine, you know, he got
the fuel for you know, he looked like Roll Davis
in the last uh several weeks, you know, running that
outside zone. And remember Rick Dennison, the run game coordinated
for the Seattle now was the run offensive line assistant
for for the Broncos back in the mid nineties. Last
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time there was a Super Bowl MVP from the running
back position in person of Terrell Davis. So I think
that they found themselves in that regard. And then Donald, Uh,
you know, part of it is learning that the personnel.
For example, they throw a h I think the last
interception Donald had was the slugo route against car at
Carolina where uh and and Donald's looking to his left,
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there's pressure. There wasn't a great blocking scheme, but but
Injigba fakes the slant goes deep. He doesn't think he
can get on top, so he's kind of idling down
back shoulder due to the pressure. Donald is trying to
throw it to the back end zone. Well that's just
a misscom And and you say, how do they have
a miscom on this late in the season, Well, they're
only been playing together one year. I bet you when
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they call a slugo next year that they'll be on
the same page. If if, if, if in Jigba thinks
he wants a back shoulder, I bet you Donald be
righting cue and just stab it right on his back shoulder, right,
you know. So there, there's there's, there's element of it.
It's year one in the system, year one of the
ufensive coordinator, year one with the quarterback, with all of
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these receivers.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Humillin's with us. And by the way, just a quick
note on Kenny Walker that you guys mentioned. Christian McCaffrey
this year went for two and twenty six total yards
seventeen touchdowns. The pace that Walker was on the last six,
by the way, would have been good enough for two
thousand and one eighty four and fourteen touchdowns over a
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seventeen game season. Now, you guys stay healthy, obviously, I
get it right, But that's the production, that's the pace
that he was on the final six games. I want
to ask you, Hugh, for a game that I think
most of us felt fairly comfortable. You're always accounting for
the freak play, something wacky happens and gets the team
back in the game. There was only one moment really
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where I kind of allowed myself to think, oh my god,
are we blowing this? And the Atlanta Falcons popped into
my head when they blew that lead against the Patriots.
And that's when Drake May took off on that scramble
nine to thirty five to go fourth quarter to the
thirty seven yard line, up nineteen to seven, and then
two plays later it throws a pick and that was that.
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Was there any moment in this game where you started
to get a tag nervous?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, Dick and I talked about that last night. You know,
I thought that that interception by Love was the play
of the game because, you know, just to recap you
and you did it right there. But Seattle had you know,
they had the nineteen point lead. Then the Patriots get
the the the what two three play drive, they go
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to nineteen to seven. Then they make Seattle go three
and out, So now they've got some momentum. It's nineteen
to seven. If they go down and score a touchdown
here with the you know, at the ten nine to
ten minute mark, because they got the ball with ten
forty to go. Now it's nineteen fourteen they've got a
ton of momentum the News Titans on the Seahawk offense
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that really that game really could have have taken abrupt
turn and uh and you look, if you're a Patriot fan,
that that played just you know, second and three, there
was no need for him to uh to force that play.
In May steps up in the pocket and you know
he kind of looked like maybe he got his arm
hit or what. At at any rate, he's throwing a
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deep in route. And you know, I'll just credit the
zone defense where where there was a post to his
left and he had Julian Love on top of the post.
You have Kobe Bryant nailing down top down on the
the the inside in breaking route, the one closest to
the ball, and then the widest in breaking route. Uh.
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Very interesting design from the defense where Witherspoon, instead of
having the flat where he had lined up, he exchanges responsibility.
Ernest Jones takes the guy in the flat and Witherspoon
drops diagonally back to get into the passing lane of
the deep dig and so so Drake May. He ends
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up skymailing the ball because seattleogists gloves it up perfectly.
I mean, there's just it's all over the tape, not
just this game, it's all over the tape all the
time with this defense where you look and you say
they're playing zone defense and they're tied to a string.
How many times have we heard that? Mike McDonald's say,
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it's the communication and play, you know eleven as one,
you know, and those are nice, you know words and
nice goals, but the tape is what shows it that
it manifests, and it did on that play. I thought
it was the most important, the most important play of
the game.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Huge ass hadn't got ten targets, that's right on his
season average, but he only had four catches. Excuse me,
excuse me about I've been talking and yelling a lot
the last twenty four hours. Ten targets but only four
catches for twenty seven yards. What did they do to
shut JSN down?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, they are aware of where he is in zone
and they you know, they would jam him, They would
have defenders in his area in zone. They did some
traveling with Gonzales on him, you know, in the slot
on the perimeter, and and you know, Gonzalez is a
he's a hell of a hell of a player. And
and so I think in addition, you know, the pressure
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on Donald. You know, we think of how much pressure
the Seahawks defense applied to Drake may Well, you get
on the NFL stat portal, they they said that may
was was pressured. He was QB pressure on fourteen downs.
There was fifteen against Donald. So Donald, actually, in the
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eyes of the NFL, faced a little bit more pressure.
Darnald just did a better job of of, you know,
not letting the whole game unravel on him. In the
face of all that pressure. You know, he moved, moved, slid,
found some outlets, but I think in the face of pressure,
he didn't want to force the ball when in Jigbo
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was really well covered. He had that boot left early
where he remember when he kind of lofted it on
the very first series of the game and he goes, Sam,
what are you doing right? Well, that ended up hitting
in jig but right in the hands.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That was a drop.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's a drop. In fact, I got to look at it.
I think the NFL marked it as a drop, but
you know, I think it was just I think ever
since the four interception game at Los Angeles, I think
Sam Darnold kind of realized, you know, everything they've been
saying about our defense is true, and I think that
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he's just taken less chance.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Right, Well, we got a lot more to get to man,
including the right guy win the MVP yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Here Millan more with him.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
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He's hit his own forty four. Then the winger quarterback
checking oven three in the gun, winds up one pass
down in the middle of a tenner checond half the
thirty odd line coming up the middle of the forty Look.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
The return right here.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Now it's Julia Love and he's out about coming there.
Shuntline going into Patriot territory and he's knocking about. It's
about the thirty two. It's the second turnover by the
second year Patriad quarterback.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Freak me all right, wearing back on a championship Monday
parade Wednesday, by the way, starts eleven o'clock. They'll do
a pre parade ceremony. It's kind of flipped from the
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Speaker 2 (20:12):
And yes, we will be there.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hugh Millan rejoins us softie Dick Jackson with you until
seven o'clock tonight. Here, I want to ask you flat
out to the right guy win the MVP in this
game yesterday?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, I think so. I don't think there was any
one defensive player that you would have said, Okay, he's
got to have it. You know. The certainly could have gone,
you know, if you want to say Derek Hall. But
I think the impact on the game that Kenneth Walker,
you know, wasn't just the rushing yards, you know, the
big screen pass and and so yeah, if you want
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to say, Jason Meyer, I think Myers if he had
hit longer, if he had hit a few bombs. You know,
I think a five field goal effort. I mean, I
can't imagine a field goal kicker being the MVP of
a game. It's gonna happen eventually, and so I think
it would have had to happen on longer field goals.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Clink Kobiak just coached his last game with the Seattle Seahawks.
How do you evaluate his last game here?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, he got some guys open. I think Donald will
kind of kick himself, you know. You know, I look
at Donald and and his game, and you know he's
at fifty percent a little over two hundred yards. You know,
he had a seventy five passer rating, and in that
regard he shares a distinction with Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes,
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Peyton Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger. In the last twenty years,
all of those quarterbacks have had passer ratings in the
seventies or worse during and in the midst of a
Super Bowl win. So sometimes you just got to know, Okay,
our defense is playing so great, just don't gum this
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thing up. I would say the best play that he
had was remember this end of the second quarter we're
talking about Clint Kobiak. Yeah, he's got the ball on
the right HASH. He has what's an called an FTB
fate formation to boundary. He has three receivers into the
right side, balls on the right HASH. Again, he has
Jackson Smith and Jigba aligned to the left side. But
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because the balls on the right Hash and Jigba was
about four yards inside the numbers, so we had a
lot of grass to the sideline that that Christian Gonzales
had to cover. But the way the Patriots pushed the formation,
there's a point you just freeze the tape. There are
five dbs that are on the outside of the right
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hash just clogging up that FTB. That means there was
just a you know, it was like a grand canyon
full of space for Injigba to work. Christian Gonzalez, that's
obviously good on good, best on best and and because
of the alignment and the hash you had Jackson Smith
and jig but he could spray it starting to widen,
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He nods to the outside, breaks across the face. That
should that should have been a walk in touchdown, and uh,
you know right at the end of the second quarter.
That's an offensive coordinator flat and just dealing. And uh,
and you know, there's there's many others I think that uh,
you know, Donald had several plays where he could have
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he could have had a completion. He was close on
a on two long balls to uh Rashid Shaheed, you know,
and and uh, but you know, there's there's a couple
of things in that game that that you know might
not strike you. For example, might might not strike you
as tied together Sam Darnold all quarterbacks in this century,
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of all winning quarterbacks, he had the highest number of
second and long passes second and seven plus he had
thirteen uh uh thirteen attempts. And then he also had
the third most attempts of twenty plus yards air yards.
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So why am I saying that? First of all, Donald had,
you know, was facing some longer yarded situations and that
contributed that that helped the pass rush and all the
pressures that Donald was facing. But his willingness to throw
the ball down the field even though they didn't complete them, right,
it forces the Patriots to have to, you know, make
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adjustments with their secondary, their coverages and what have you.
Because they're seeing that Donald had a willingness to go
down the field even though there was, you know, just
a couple of short misses.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You know, you mentioned it earlier in the conversation here
and here milling with us right here on ninety three
three KJRFM. I'm looking up a screenshot I've got on
my phone of attacks that I sent to Jackson and
Dick during the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I think it was right around.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Early it must have been mid third quarter nineteen nothing,
And I sent a text to both of you, guys.
I'm not gonna say it, I'm not gonna tweet it,
but are you guys starting to think the same thing
I am about this defense? And I was thinking about
a shutout, That's what I was thinking about. And then
things kind of got a little bit out of control
as nineteen seven. Do you think, knowing McDonald he was
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thinking at all about maybe making some history in that game?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did that even remotely cross his mind at all?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Just don't know. I mean, we're learning about him. If
I were to guess, it would only be a guess. Yeah,
I would bet that he was that he is aware,
Like if you walked up to him right now and
said in the sixty Super bowls. How many setouts have
there been? I think you look right in your eye
without hesitations at zero yep, Whether he was thinking about
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that when they switch sides on the field and they're
going into the fourth quart everybody's holding up four fingers
and he looks up the scoreboard, he said, do we
got to sign it this thing? You know? Even? Uh? Right?
Right right? So totally uh, you know, and yeah, I
don't know, I don't know. I mean, you know, he
might tell you, hey, yeah, I'm aware of that shutout fact,
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but I wasn't thinking about that at all in that
moment at all.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well where did they, guys? Remind me, where did the
touchdown for Denver come? It was mid early fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'd be curious to know if there's a team that's
got two Super Bowl victories where the opponent went longer
to get their first score than we did.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I know this is.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Two of the top four leading longest in the game, right,
because we led from the first play in Super Bowl
forty eight, and we led from you know, two minutes
in in this game.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So the Patriots got their first touchdown twelve twenty seven
to go fourth quarter to make a nineteen seven, So
three quarters and change and then Peyton Manning and got
there's in the fourth quarter. I don't know if there's
a team that I mean, maybe Pittsburgh had no idea,
but this is People are gonna start comparing this defense
to twenty thirteen. Hell Andrews was in here during a
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break even asking me and Dick about it. I know
it's your favorite team, you like the you like this
team better, but how does this defense, in your mind
compare to the lob Well.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think the Lob accomplished too much for this the
dark Side to knock them off their perch, simply because
they're the only team in the Super Bowl era that
had four straight years fewest points allowed. That is a
hell of an accomplishment and something that obviously the dark
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Side is only you know, twenty five percent of the
way they are if we're only going by that measure,
and it's a pretty good measure. So now there are
some analytics, some sabermetricians that can point to things like
EPA and they have had a run. I got to
update this, but I know that there was a run
late in the season where they're more most recent eight
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or nine games in terms of e PA. That's expected
points added. It's a new kind of analytics. You know,
I'm not going to get into what it is. You
can google it, but it's it's a it's a high
correlation stat it's legit. And the Seahawks had a I
think it was a nine game stretch this year where
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their total defensive EPA was better than any nine game
stretch in the entire history of the Legion of Boom.
So there are some things that can creep in there,
and and and if you want to do, uh, you know,
make an argument to a neutral jury, you've got some
evidence on your on your side to be able to
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argue on behalf of the dark side. I just personally
feel like the Legion of Boom just accomplished a little
too much to knock them off so quickly.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And I know during that stretch, you they had a
negative EPA perse play against the run during that stretch, negative,
which is just.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean, it depends on is it negative EPA
for the offense, you know, positive for the you know,
I've seen you know, people kind of twist it all around,
but but you know, it only takes a quick glance
at his list to say, hey, are you doing negative
or you're doing positive? So I've seen them both. But
the point is, yeah, against the run, you know yesterday
you take away the Drake May scrambles. I mean there's
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a team that rushs for forty two yards. That's the
thing about the defense is they build a wall. And
those interior guys have such strength. I mean I've looked
them up, watched their their take. You know. You know
I've watched these big guys work out in a weight room.
You know, I know they squat, they deadlift, they power clean,
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you know, they bench pressed, they they incline press, the
whole thing. And I would just say the Seahawk defensive
line is so strong and their legs, their upper body
and their core because the way they are holding I
don't mean holding in a sense of a penalty, but
the way they are just holding their ground and being
able to what's called gap and a half. They're in
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a gap, but they're not trying to penetrate. Like let's
say they're in the B gap between the guard and
the tackle. They'll step, they'll hold their ground. They're looking
in the B gap, but they're not trying to penetrate,
and they're waiting to say, what do you want to do? Dude,
what do you want to do? I'm standing in the
B gap. If you try and go in the A gap,
they'll throw their lineman who happens to be three hundred
and forty pounds. They'll throw them all and then and
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then converge on the running back in the A gap.
There there are feats of strength on a not just
game by game, but a play by play basis. Is
just on inspiring.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Denver scored that touchdown with three seconds to go in
the third quarter, left in the third by the way,
and might be onto something. Yeah, well, Curtis Crabtree just
sent me a text. Is a fifth time a team
has held scoreless going into the fourth quarter in Super
Bowl history, So sixty Super bowls and this was just
the fifth time ever happened. So I don't know, man,
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it's gonna be a hell of an offseason as these
guys go for a repeat. You know, I mean they're
halfway to getting back what was robbed from them obviously,
you know, eleven twelve years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
So we'll see great stuff, dude.
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Our friend Huey Millen, how are you, man.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What's happening? Doing great?
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Doing?
Speaker 2 (00:25):
What's happening?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
I don't know, man, I'm gonna lose my voice here
any second, so I'll make sure I get my best
questions out now, all right before my voice goes to hell.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
But I don't know, man, Let's just start at the top.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Give you a shot to kind of view from you
thirty five forty thousand feet on not only what you
saw yesterday, but what you saw this franchise and this
team just do well.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I feel like they were one year ahead given all
the changes. I think defensively you could say they were ready.
But offensively, were we ready for the Sea Arks to
set a franchise record for points? And? Uh, you know
clearly they were. They were not to the level of
the defense for the duration of the season, but they had
(01:08):
their moments and the numbers don't lie, you can't set
a record. You know that they're the third highest scoring
team in the league, and and uh and then to
just carry this through the playoffs, to clean up the turnovers,
to uh, to do it enough, and then to really
be on a pace for a record setting historic type
(01:28):
of u of a game until the fourth quarter. You
know they they they leake some oil from a yardage standpoint,
No big deal. It would have been nice to grow
grab history when it was twelve to nothing after the
third quarter. Yes, and uh, and and you're on a
pace to hold the Patriots to one hundred and four
total yards for a Super Bowl, so there was records
(01:49):
to be you know, you were really gonna you know
what the conversation would have been this morning on the
national talk shows is is where does this defense rank
all time?
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Uh? If you know, if you know, had they been
the only team to get the shut out, et cetera.
But they've still got a chance to chase that next year.
And you know, I for you know, I probably should
keep my mouth shut on this because it's not important,
but we as friends. I'll speak more as a fan
now than an analyst. I like this team more than
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the twenty thirteen. I love the twenty thirteen. That was
a thrill. Cam Chancellor is my favorite Seahawk of all time.
If I had, I don't. I'm not a jersey wearing guy.
I think that's great if that's if that's your thing, wonderful.
I love to see all the jerseys. If I had
to wear a jersey, it'd be Cam Chancellor. But this
team is more, you know, particularly at the top Mike McDonald,
(02:39):
Sam Donal just straight up very simple. I like Mike
McDonald more than Bete Carroll, and I like Sam Donald
more than Russell Wilson. So I am I feel really
just viscerally connected from a rooting standpoint. I just thought
it was delightful on so many ways at that point
aside not necessary, But I don't know. This team is
(03:01):
so dog unlikable that it's just it's not just that
they're the Seahawks. I think many of you say, hey,
if you says Sea how Seahawks, that's the name of
your team, I'll like you, you know, unless you're almost
a complete band of knuckle hits. But these guys on
top of that make it so easy. There's so many
great storylines about the people that these guys are. You know,
(03:22):
I'm just write me down. I'm in for all of it, Hugh.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
We have so many TV guys out there that are
prone to hyperbole. Chris collins Worth is not one of
those guys. And Chris collins Worth yesterday and the broadcast
said this defensive performance is as good as I've ever seen.
Talk about that comment, particularly coming from him, And do
you think it was a better defensive performance than forty
three to eight?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Oh, that's a great question. I mean, you'd give the
nod to Denver in terms of their offensive formidability. And
now obviously Drake May you know, he comes in as
the run up to the MVP. This is not like
you're playing you know, Tony Easton Patriots or you know,
(04:08):
the I'm trying to think that I was going to
say Ravens Yeah, Kerry Commers, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Kerry
collins in twenty yep. So I would say at the end,
you know, the the problem with the Super Bowl is
is that posterity is going to look at the numbers
and the problem for the run at history is that
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you know, you gave up nineteen twenty five for two
hundred and thirty five yards in the fourth quarter alone
to Drake May. So I think that that's going to
hurt their their their image. But I think that what
they did when you consider that the Patriot running backs
had forty two yards rushing. When you consider that, as
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we said, for three quarters Drake May. You know, I
was just sitting there thinking, Boston fans who've experienced Tom
I was thinking, how bad are they going to turn
on this guy right and just like write him off? Like,
oh this guy, you know, he's no Brady, like literally,
you know, the way Sam Darnold got turned off, you know,
shut off. I was wondering for the psyche of Drake
(05:15):
May and how he would survive in New England. I
mean they they made him look like, you know, just
a JV quarterback at a high school. I mean it
was just incredible the futility that they forced the Patriot
offense into. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
I said the same thing man that I don't want
to just discount what they did against Drake May. This
guy was the runner up in the MVP, and you said,
by what, Dick one vote?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I mean, this is a legit MVP candidate that they
made look like a clown for three quarters in that game.
I mean, Heuey, the guy's numbers overall aren't terrible. He
went nineteen for twenty five for two thirty four, two touchdowns,
two picks. In the fourth quarter, he was eight of
eighteen for sixty one after three. I mean, this was
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an ass kicking by this defense. But what struck me
about yesterday's game and I don't know how often they blitzed.
You can give us the numbers on that, but it
really felt like the blitzes were well timed. There was
one of them where I think New England had the
ball second and ten from like their own five yard line,
and they brought Nick off the left side Drake May's
(06:22):
right side, and he turned and found Stevenson in the
flat for a big game. Outside of that, I don't
remember the defense getting caught with their pants down on
many blitzes in that game yesterday.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
No, not at all. I mean they blitzed a dB
at least one dB on ten plays. May was five
of ten for twenty two yards and interception had a
sack in there. The passer rating is sixteen point seven.
I mean, does that work for you? I mean they
dialed that up and you know, overall, if you'd just
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say the total of times where they rushed, they had
they had seven seven times where they rushed more than
four what's commonly called the blitz. Well, they they gave
up a thirteen yard completion and a seven yard completion.
Other than that they were either incomplete, two incompletes, an
(07:21):
interception A well, I beg your pardon, there's a completion
for minus two, so we'll call that three completions and
then a sack of minus ten. That's how that's how
the numbers play out. Now they sound similar. The first
one I gave you is is what they did if
one defensive back or more blitz So those can be
(07:44):
simulated pressures. You can bring a dB, drop a defensive lineman,
you only have a four man rush. Technically that's not
a blitz. So that's the first number I gave you.
The second one, as I said, seven times they blitzed,
and you know they didn't get burned, you know, because
they they have a zone blitzing behind it. It's not
just a zone blitz, it's it's a more complicated zone
(08:07):
blitz than for example, the Patriots run Patriots running three
D three under. They ranted on that slant, for example,
to do injigba to the left sixteen yards. He kind
of dove it. The safety kind of reminded us of
Tyler Lockett. If you can remember that completion in the game,
that's a blitzing five three deep three under. Seattle does
it more with a two deep shell and the corners
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are either gonna trigger down into the flat or they're
gonna sink and go and follow deep based on a
relatively complicated array of releases by the slot receivers so
so and the outside receivers. So they're they're blitzes are potent,
they're disruptive, they're creating havoc, they're producing the kind of
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numbers that we're talking about, and yet they're not they're
not really putting themselves at risk because they steal. Hell,
they got two safeties back. You know, what are you
gonna do? You gonna hit a go route, Well, the
safety is gonna run over and make a play on
the side. They're gonna run a post runer, not with
the safety's on either half. So, so I think McDonald
is a general rule, feels like he's taking double bogie
(09:13):
out of a play. When he calls these and you
know he's getting Birdie after birdie, and and when and
then on the uh on when when Witherspoon comes in
on one of those blitzes, that would be one of
the occasions that it was both a dB rushing and
a blitz.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And you know, I'm not gonna call that a birdie.
That's an eagle if we're gonna carry out that analogy,
and and uh hella and albatross you get a uh
you know, a hit hit fumbel whatever the hell it was,
nuosu and and a pick six in the Super Bowl.
You know that's that's just kind of how Mike McDonald
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dominated Josh McDaniel, who has six Super Bowl rings. You
look it up, all of Brady's Super Bowl rings for
the Patriots. Josh McDowell was coaching him in one form
or another and and was on that staff. So I
don't know, I just thought it was a clinic. Hugh.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
You mentioned a couple months ago we asked you what
could derail this team and you brought out two things.
You said, this team will be derailed if the run
game breaks down and Sam Donald turns the ball over.
Why didn't the run game break down, And why did
Sam Donald only have four interceptions in his last ten
football games and becomes only the fourth quarterback to win
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the Super Bowl to not have any turnovers in the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, wonderful, right, Well, first of all, I didn't see
the late season you know, kind of finding of the
of the running game where they had a period of
four games where they averaged one hundred and seventy two
yards and it was relatively tightly dispersed. I think it
was a low of one sixty one and a high
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of maybe one eighty. I'm somewhere in there. You know,
they're all right around that number, and they on the
outside zone. They used the athleticism of the of the
line as opposed to you know, being you know, uh
that their lack of physicality being a problem. They they
use their athleticism as a strength. And you know, four
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of the guys, certainly three your center, left guard, left
tackle are are are very athletic by their position standards.
Right guard with Bradford not not not so much obviously.
And then and Abe Lucas is playing his ass off.
Maybe not as good athlete, but he's a he's got
a nice blend of athleticism and power with him and
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and Uh, I think K nine, you know, he got
the fuel for you know, he looked like Roll Davis
in the last uh several weeks, you know, running that
outside zone. And remember Rick Dennison, the run game coordinated
for the Seattle now was the run offensive line assistant
for for the Broncos back in the mid nineties. Last
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time there was a Super Bowl MVP from the running
back position in person of Terrell Davis. So I think
that they found themselves in that regard. And then Donald, Uh,
you know, part of it is learning that the personnel.
For example, they throw a h I think the last
interception Donald had was the slugo route against car at
Carolina where uh and and Donald's looking to his left,
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there's pressure. There wasn't a great blocking scheme, but but
Injigba fakes the slant goes deep. He doesn't think he
can get on top, so he's kind of idling down
back shoulder due to the pressure. Donald is trying to
throw it to the back end zone. Well that's just
a misscom And and you say, how do they have
a miscom on this late in the season, Well, they're
only been playing together one year. I bet you when
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they call a slugo next year that they'll be on
the same page. If if, if, if in Jigba thinks
he wants a back shoulder, I bet you Donald be
righting cue and just stab it right on his back shoulder, right,
you know. So there, there's there's, there's element of it.
It's year one in the system, year one of the
ufensive coordinator, year one with the quarterback, with all of
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these receivers.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Humillin's with us. And by the way, just a quick
note on Kenny Walker that you guys mentioned. Christian McCaffrey
this year went for two and twenty six total yards
seventeen touchdowns. The pace that Walker was on the last six,
by the way, would have been good enough for two
thousand and one eighty four and fourteen touchdowns over a
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seventeen game season. Now, you guys stay healthy, obviously, I
get it right, But that's the production, that's the pace
that he was on the final six games. I want
to ask you, Hugh, for a game that I think
most of us felt fairly comfortable. You're always accounting for
the freak play, something wacky happens and gets the team
back in the game. There was only one moment really
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where I kind of allowed myself to think, oh my god,
are we blowing this? And the Atlanta Falcons popped into
my head when they blew that lead against the Patriots.
And that's when Drake May took off on that scramble
nine to thirty five to go fourth quarter to the
thirty seven yard line, up nineteen to seven, and then
two plays later it throws a pick and that was that.
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Was there any moment in this game where you started
to get a tag nervous?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Well, Dick and I talked about that last night. You know,
I thought that that interception by Love was the play
of the game because, you know, just to recap you
and you did it right there. But Seattle had you know,
they had the nineteen point lead. Then the Patriots get
the the the what two three play drive, they go
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to nineteen to seven. Then they make Seattle go three
and out, So now they've got some momentum. It's nineteen
to seven. If they go down and score a touchdown
here with the you know, at the ten nine to
ten minute mark, because they got the ball with ten
forty to go. Now it's nineteen fourteen they've got a
ton of momentum the News Titans on the Seahawk offense
(15:00):
that really that game really could have have taken abrupt
turn and uh and you look, if you're a Patriot fan,
that that played just you know, second and three, there
was no need for him to uh to force that play.
In May steps up in the pocket and you know
he kind of looked like maybe he got his arm
hit or what. At at any rate, he's throwing a
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deep in route. And you know, I'll just credit the
zone defense where where there was a post to his
left and he had Julian Love on top of the post.
You have Kobe Bryant nailing down top down on the
the the inside in breaking route, the one closest to
the ball, and then the widest in breaking route. Uh.
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Very interesting design from the defense where Witherspoon, instead of
having the flat where he had lined up, he exchanges responsibility.
Ernest Jones takes the guy in the flat and Witherspoon
drops diagonally back to get into the passing lane of
the deep dig and so so Drake May. He ends
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up skymailing the ball because seattleogists gloves it up perfectly.
I mean, there's just it's all over the tape, not
just this game, it's all over the tape all the
time with this defense where you look and you say
they're playing zone defense and they're tied to a string.
How many times have we heard that? Mike McDonald's say,
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it's the communication and play, you know eleven as one,
you know, and those are nice, you know words and
nice goals, but the tape is what shows it that
it manifests, and it did on that play. I thought
it was the most important, the most important play of
the game.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Huge ass hadn't got ten targets, that's right on his
season average, but he only had four catches. Excuse me,
excuse me about I've been talking and yelling a lot
the last twenty four hours. Ten targets but only four
catches for twenty seven yards. What did they do to
shut JSN down?
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Well, they are aware of where he is in zone
and they you know, they would jam him, They would
have defenders in his area in zone. They did some
traveling with Gonzales on him, you know, in the slot
on the perimeter, and and you know, Gonzalez is a
he's a hell of a hell of a player. And
and so I think in addition, you know, the pressure
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on Donald. You know, we think of how much pressure
the Seahawks defense applied to Drake may Well, you get
on the NFL stat portal, they they said that may
was was pressured. He was QB pressure on fourteen downs.
There was fifteen against Donald. So Donald, actually, in the
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eyes of the NFL, faced a little bit more pressure.
Darnald just did a better job of of, you know,
not letting the whole game unravel on him. In the
face of all that pressure. You know, he moved, moved, slid,
found some outlets, but I think in the face of pressure,
he didn't want to force the ball when in Jigbo
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was really well covered. He had that boot left early
where he remember when he kind of lofted it on
the very first series of the game and he goes, Sam,
what are you doing right? Well, that ended up hitting
in jig but right in the hands.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
That was a drop.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
That's a drop. In fact, I got to look at it.
I think the NFL marked it as a drop, but
you know, I think it was just I think ever
since the four interception game at Los Angeles, I think
Sam Darnold kind of realized, you know, everything they've been
saying about our defense is true, and I think that
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he's just taken less chance.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Right, Well, we got a lot more to get to man,
including the right guy win the MVP yesterday.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
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Now it's Julia Love and he's out about coming there.
Shuntline going into Patriot territory and he's knocking about. It's
about the thirty two. It's the second turnover by the
second year Patriad quarterback.
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Hugh Millan rejoins us softie Dick Jackson with you until
seven o'clock tonight. Here, I want to ask you flat
out to the right guy win the MVP in this
game yesterday?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, I think so. I don't think there was any
one defensive player that you would have said, Okay, he's
got to have it. You know. The certainly could have gone,
you know, if you want to say Derek Hall. But
I think the impact on the game that Kenneth Walker,
you know, wasn't just the rushing yards, you know, the
big screen pass and and so yeah, if you want
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to say, Jason Meyer, I think Myers if he had
hit longer, if he had hit a few bombs. You know,
I think a five field goal effort. I mean, I
can't imagine a field goal kicker being the MVP of
a game. It's gonna happen eventually, and so I think
it would have had to happen on longer field goals.
Speaker 5 (21:06):
Clink Kobiak just coached his last game with the Seattle Seahawks.
How do you evaluate his last game here?
Speaker 3 (21:12):
Well, he got some guys open. I think Donald will
kind of kick himself, you know. You know, I look
at Donald and and his game, and you know he's
at fifty percent a little over two hundred yards. You know,
he had a seventy five passer rating, and in that
regard he shares a distinction with Tom Brady, Pat Mahomes,
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Peyton Manning, and Ben Roethlisberger. In the last twenty years,
all of those quarterbacks have had passer ratings in the
seventies or worse during and in the midst of a
Super Bowl win. So sometimes you just got to know, Okay,
our defense is playing so great, just don't gum this
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thing up. I would say the best play that he
had was remember this end of the second quarter we're
talking about Clint Kobiak. Yeah, he's got the ball on
the right HASH. He has what's an called an FTB
fate formation to boundary. He has three receivers into the
right side, balls on the right HASH. Again, he has
Jackson Smith and Jigba aligned to the left side. But
(22:21):
because the balls on the right Hash and Jigba was
about four yards inside the numbers, so we had a
lot of grass to the sideline that that Christian Gonzales
had to cover. But the way the Patriots pushed the formation,
there's a point you just freeze the tape. There are
five dbs that are on the outside of the right
(22:42):
hash just clogging up that FTB. That means there was
just a you know, it was like a grand canyon
full of space for Injigba to work. Christian Gonzalez, that's
obviously good on good, best on best and and because
of the alignment and the hash you had Jackson Smith
and jig but he could spray it starting to widen,
(23:03):
He nods to the outside, breaks across the face. That
should that should have been a walk in touchdown, and uh,
you know right at the end of the second quarter.
That's an offensive coordinator flat and just dealing. And uh,
and you know, there's there's many others I think that uh,
you know, Donald had several plays where he could have
(23:25):
he could have had a completion. He was close on
a on two long balls to uh Rashid Shaheed, you know,
and and uh, but you know, there's there's a couple
of things in that game that that you know might
not strike you. For example, might might not strike you
as tied together Sam Darnold all quarterbacks in this century,
(23:50):
of all winning quarterbacks, he had the highest number of
second and long passes second and seven plus he had
thirteen uh uh thirteen attempts. And then he also had
the third most attempts of twenty plus yards air yards.
(24:10):
So why am I saying that? First of all, Donald had,
you know, was facing some longer yarded situations and that
contributed that that helped the pass rush and all the
pressures that Donald was facing. But his willingness to throw
the ball down the field even though they didn't complete them, right,
it forces the Patriots to have to, you know, make
(24:30):
adjustments with their secondary, their coverages and what have you.
Because they're seeing that Donald had a willingness to go
down the field even though there was, you know, just
a couple of short misses.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
You know, you mentioned it earlier in the conversation here
and here milling with us right here on ninety three
three KJRFM. I'm looking up a screenshot I've got on
my phone of attacks that I sent to Jackson and
Dick during the game yesterday.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
I think it was right around.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
Early it must have been mid third quarter nineteen nothing,
And I sent a text to both of you, guys.
I'm not gonna say it, I'm not gonna tweet it,
but are you guys starting to think the same thing
I am about this defense? And I was thinking about
a shutout, That's what I was thinking about. And then
things kind of got a little bit out of control
as nineteen seven. Do you think, knowing McDonald he was
(25:19):
thinking at all about maybe making some history in that game?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Did that even remotely cross his mind at all?
Speaker 3 (25:29):
Just don't know. I mean, we're learning about him. If
I were to guess, it would only be a guess. Yeah,
I would bet that he was that he is aware,
Like if you walked up to him right now and
said in the sixty Super bowls. How many setouts have
there been? I think you look right in your eye
without hesitations at zero yep, Whether he was thinking about
(25:50):
that when they switch sides on the field and they're
going into the fourth quart everybody's holding up four fingers
and he looks up the scoreboard, he said, do we
got to sign it this thing? You know? Even? Uh? Right?
Right right? So totally uh, you know, and yeah, I
don't know, I don't know. I mean, you know, he
might tell you, hey, yeah, I'm aware of that shutout fact,
(26:14):
but I wasn't thinking about that at all in that
moment at all.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Well where did they, guys? Remind me, where did the
touchdown for Denver come? It was mid early fourth quarter?
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Is that right?
Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'd be curious to know if there's a team that's
got two Super Bowl victories where the opponent went longer
to get their first score than we did.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I know this is.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Two of the top four leading longest in the game, right,
because we led from the first play in Super Bowl
forty eight, and we led from you know, two minutes
in in this game.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
So the Patriots got their first touchdown twelve twenty seven
to go fourth quarter to make a nineteen seven, So
three quarters and change and then Peyton Manning and got
there's in the fourth quarter. I don't know if there's
a team that I mean, maybe Pittsburgh had no idea,
but this is People are gonna start comparing this defense
to twenty thirteen. Hell Andrews was in here during a
(27:11):
break even asking me and Dick about it. I know
it's your favorite team, you like the you like this
team better, but how does this defense, in your mind
compare to the lob Well.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
I think the Lob accomplished too much for this the
dark Side to knock them off their perch, simply because
they're the only team in the Super Bowl era that
had four straight years fewest points allowed. That is a
hell of an accomplishment and something that obviously the dark
(27:43):
Side is only you know, twenty five percent of the
way they are if we're only going by that measure,
and it's a pretty good measure. So now there are
some analytics, some sabermetricians that can point to things like
EPA and they have had a run. I got to
update this, but I know that there was a run
late in the season where they're more most recent eight
(28:06):
or nine games in terms of e PA. That's expected
points added. It's a new kind of analytics. You know,
I'm not going to get into what it is. You
can google it, but it's it's a it's a high
correlation stat it's legit. And the Seahawks had a I
think it was a nine game stretch this year where
(28:26):
their total defensive EPA was better than any nine game
stretch in the entire history of the Legion of Boom.
So there are some things that can creep in there,
and and and if you want to do, uh, you know,
make an argument to a neutral jury, you've got some
evidence on your on your side to be able to
(28:46):
argue on behalf of the dark side. I just personally
feel like the Legion of Boom just accomplished a little
too much to knock them off so quickly.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
And I know during that stretch, you they had a
negative EPA perse play against the run during that stretch, negative,
which is just.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yeah, I mean, it depends on is it negative EPA
for the offense, you know, positive for the you know,
I've seen you know, people kind of twist it all around,
but but you know, it only takes a quick glance
at his list to say, hey, are you doing negative
or you're doing positive? So I've seen them both. But
the point is, yeah, against the run, you know yesterday
you take away the Drake May scrambles. I mean there's
(29:27):
a team that rushs for forty two yards. That's the
thing about the defense is they build a wall. And
those interior guys have such strength. I mean I've looked
them up, watched their their take. You know. You know
I've watched these big guys work out in a weight room.
You know, I know they squat, they deadlift, they power clean,
(29:48):
you know, they bench pressed, they they incline press, the
whole thing. And I would just say the Seahawk defensive
line is so strong and their legs, their upper body
and their core because the way they are holding I
don't mean holding in a sense of a penalty, but
the way they are just holding their ground and being
able to what's called gap and a half. They're in
(30:10):
a gap, but they're not trying to penetrate. Like let's
say they're in the B gap between the guard and
the tackle. They'll step, they'll hold their ground. They're looking
in the B gap, but they're not trying to penetrate,
and they're waiting to say, what do you want to do? Dude,
what do you want to do? I'm standing in the
B gap. If you try and go in the A gap,
they'll throw their lineman who happens to be three hundred
and forty pounds. They'll throw them all and then and
(30:30):
then converge on the running back in the A gap.
There there are feats of strength on a not just
game by game, but a play by play basis. Is
just on inspiring.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Denver scored that touchdown with three seconds to go in
the third quarter, left in the third by the way,
and might be onto something. Yeah, well, Curtis Crabtree just
sent me a text. Is a fifth time a team
has held scoreless going into the fourth quarter in Super
Bowl history, So sixty Super bowls and this was just
the fifth time ever happened. So I don't know, man,
(31:01):
it's gonna be a hell of an offseason as these
guys go for a repeat. You know, I mean they're
halfway to getting back what was robbed from them obviously,
you know, eleven twelve years ago.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
So we'll see great stuff, dude.
Speaker 3 (31:12):
With the first Hey, let's let's go uh, pat Riley
with them.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Why not let's go repeat? Why not?
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Oh you got it?
Speaker 5 (31:19):
You got to pay pat Riley for saying that on
the air. There you He trademarked it.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
You five hundred bucks right there, all right here, Great
job man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Enjoy all right here mailing we'll get some texts next segment.
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