November 25, 2024 • 18 mins
Hugh Millen joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about what he saw from Geno Smith and the offensive line in the Seahawks win over Arizona, Jaxson Dart losing and Ole Miss getting bounced from the playoffs, plus UW’s quarterback choice.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us on the radio show a little special edition
of Mondays with Millan because we're off on Friday obviously
for the Thanksgiving holiday. He was going to be in
for you on Wednesday when you take the day off
for the Thanksgiving holiday. Only guy not taking a day
off is me for christ six. But joining us right
now on the radio show, our buddy Huey Millan, How
are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's happening Boyce? How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Getting ready for Chargers Ravens the Harpob Bowl. We'll get
your thoughts on that if we have time here and
in just a moment. But coming out of the Seahat game,
You've watched all the tape, You've broken down all the film,
You've crunched all the numbers. What are your takeaways, your
big takeaways coming out of yesterday's waiting against the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I think that the defensive efforts stopping the run
was just so dominant that I think it just reverberated
around the rest of the entire football team and all
the other phases. I mean, here was an Arizona team
that came in second in the NFL in yards per
rush at five point two. Their first downs per rush
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was number one in the NFL. They're big plays in
the running game, defined by the NFL as ten plus
yards or more on a rush attempt. They were number
one in the NFL. And and you know, here's Seattle.
They just they just stoned the Cardinals. And when you
consider that fourteen of those yards were in one play
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on third and seventeen, which is defined by the NFL
as an unsuccessful run, despite the fact that it was
a fourteen yard run, you start, you know, parsing this
stuff out. And you know, for example, looking at at
how how few plays were actually tackled by the secondary
on Cardinal runs, there was you know, only three other times,
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and there was for zero three and zero yards. I
mean the front seven, the defensive line, the linebackers, they
just played in harmony. And they absolutely stoned the Cardinals.
And I think it impacted put the It took the
Cardinals out of the uh, out of the the order
in terms of trying to play on schedule. And so
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they're facing the second lungs, they're facing the third and lungs,
and Seattle's able to convert that into pressures and sacks,
and and they prevented the big play in the passing
game just to phenomenal defensive effort.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I just think this We've seen three games now
and I mentioned earlier, three games against quarterbacks that aren't
Chop Liver. I mean, you're talking about Stafford and Purty
and Kyler Murray. It's not the it's not the dregs
of the NFL quarterback wise. So is it safe to
feel as a Seahawks fan like the corner has been
turned and this is the type of defense that we
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should expect for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know safe.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I would just say there's signs where you say, three
in a row against you know, three division quarterbacks. I mean,
you got you know, Purdy's going to be making sixty
million at least some people say that, but he's their
franchise guy. Stafford, of course, you know, it speaks for himself.
And Kyler Murray, whether you think it was justified or not,
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is a two hundred and fifty five million dollar quarterback.
I mean they they just absolutely you know, they showed
up for three weeks against your opponents and held him
to fourteen points exactly per game. We're talking about the
defense now, you know, forgetting that pick six that Gino threw.
That that's legion of boone numbers. Now it's only it's
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only three games.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But I think you, you know, you have a reason
to start to feel excited about where this defense can be.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, well, let's talk about Gina for a little bit.
I mean, obviously the interception was horrific. There were other
plays he made during the game that were obviously not horrific.
What'd you make of Gino's game overall?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, I think the type of game that if you
win it, you talk about all the things you did well.
If you lose that game, you're really focusing on what
he did poorly. And you know, you, first of all,
sixteen points generally is just not going to be enough.
That's always going to be laid at the feet of
the quarterback. That interception. Look, you could see he you know,
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he changed the line protection he thought, you know, there's
a threat of an overload of four week blitz, meaning
too is his blind side his left side. May have
changed the route combination. We don't know for sure. But
in that process that you see Buddha Baker Audible aying
out and they checked out of their blitz, went to
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a standard three deep, fourigner zone. That's the oldest zone
in football. And and you know at that point they won,
they won the chess match, and so you cannot compound,
you know, try and create something out of nothing, and
then you know, evade the pocket, try and distort the
defense and then think you have a touchdown. Look, if
this is playing professional quarterback, if you think you have
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an off script touchdown to Tyler Lockett right there, then
smoke it in there and get the touchdown kick a
pat beautiful. But that decision is made in an instant
of you know, instantaneously, and Gino Smith in that moment
is trusted with the keys to the entire franchise. He's
got the keys to the ferrari and when he makes
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an interception like that, you know it's troublesome. And when
you consider over the last two years, this is twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. You know, he talked
about numbers on a on a podcast. Okay, then if
you invite us to look at.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The numbers podcast, right right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, you know there's been there's forty eight quarterbacks who
have thrown for two hundred or more attempts. This is
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four combined, Geno's rating
in the red zone is forty fifth out of forty eight.
Completion percentage forty fourth out of forty eight in the
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red zone. So you know, and there's some other ugly
numbers on third down that we can point to. So
that interception right there, unfortunately has been kind of like
him because he just has not been exceptional in the
red zone. Now he's been exceptional in game winning drives.
That's a real thing. He's got the most game winning
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drives over the last two years. That's situational football. But
to me, situational football the way I just think of
it as like what's a NFL practice, Like, well, Tuesday,
we have the day off. Wednesday we have you know
that's first and second down. Thursday is is mostly a
third down day, and then situational stuff on Friday, red
zone and and two minute and you know, throw it going.
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So between Thursday and Friday, that's your h that's your
specialty downs. And and so I just kind of look
and I say, well, he's one for three. He's really
good in two minute, but not good in third down,
not good, particularly not good in the red zone, so
that that aspect, it's an acknowledgement that not all players
are created equal. And so when you have those important downs,
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in those important situations, that's where you've got to merge
if you're going to be considered among the best.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So are these agregious mistakes that he's making and multiple
against the rams? You know, big one last week and
could have had three this week. I mean, heck, he
had two balls picked off, one just wasn't corraled, and
he also had a fumble as well. How much are
these due to the offensive line and how much of
these would happen even if he had good protection.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, when you filter it for the pressure rate on
two and a half seconds or less, the average throw
is two point four to five from the pocket. The
NFL in their portal they say, okay, percentage of attempts,
you know, two point five seconds or less, I mean
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Two point five is not just Hugh Millin, sorry to go,
third person pulling up a random number.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is something that the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know, it's that's not my stat that's that's an
NFL stat. And then when you when you filter it
for that you know, his pressure rate is still high.
But there's others that you know, Brock Purty, CJ. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins. There's a
number of quarterbacks who are pressured worse. So I would
just say, Dick, when you're talking about in the red zone,
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everything is just accelerated. You just have to process faster
and you know, you have to anticipate more. If you're
going to drive the throw, you got to throw it harder.
Like everything is just condensed obviously. And you know, Kurt
Warner said the best thing that was ever you know,
in his career was having played indoor football league because
because everything was condensed in there, and that made him
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a better red zone quarterback. Well, if you can kind
of lock into that that idea, then you can see
And this is not I'm not revealing anything you didn't know.
I'm just reminding you that piece of it that you know,
he's just got to be, you know, more anticipatory.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're late, you hold the ball. It's a lot
worse than the red zone, right, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, maybe Geno Smith should go play in the Arena
League over the summer for something, I don't know, pick
up some experience and come back to the NFL. But
Hu Millin's with us on the air, and you know,
you you mentioned something this morning about the offensive line
that caught my ear and when you said the offensive
line is not a very good pass blocking unit, they're
a worse run blocking unit. Kenny Walker got the ball
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fourteen times yesterday and they just could never ever get
a running game going. It felt like almost every time
he touched the ball there was somebody right in his
face in that game yesterday. Were you okay with the
amount of time Ryan Grubb dictated or dedicated sorry to
the run game? And what is keeping this running game
from honestly getting off the ground here?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Man, Well, I think there was a time there when
they were, you know, up thirteen to three, and you
know you had Mark Sanchez make a note of their
propensity to throw the ball there. I'm not sure if Sanchez,
you know, he comes in studies the Seahawks for a
few days and or you know, maybe the better part
of a week. You know, he didn't see it as
often as we do, so he's not aware of of Okay,
(10:02):
that sounds all well, and good, let's run the rock. Well,
you know what, second and nine is not very fun,
I think, is what uh what Ryan Grebb might be
thinking when he hears that part of the discussion. So
I would just say it's you know that they don't
get the movement. They you know they when you know,
first play of the game, you've got Lake and Thomlinson.
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You know, this is a veteran guy that used to
be a good player. First play, you know you're trying
to go wide left.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You just say, this is a veteran guy that used
to be a good player.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I'm sorry, that just made me laugh out loud. Okay,
let's let's let's be little. And when I said, first
of all, is he a veteran, Yes he is? He
a former pro bowler? Yes? Is he a pro bowler now?
No so, but but you know he's doing a double team.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And then you know he just allows allows the linebacker
to just run through the gap that he has to
be aware of, and he's late getting to him, doesn't
get a piece of him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you know, now all of a sudden, you've got.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Canine you know what, three four yard loss and and
and you watch the plane you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Freaking hate man.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, if Christian Haynes did that, I would say, Okay,
well I get it, he's a rookie. But but Lake
and Tomlins said, Okay, maybe he doesn't execute the block.
Maybe physically he gets overwhelmed, but how is he not
recognizing the run through that what we used to call
the junior Seau angle where he's trying to run underneath
as opposed over top of the chatter. He's trying to
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run underneath. You've got to come off him. You got
to make that you know, at least attempt that block him.
And I'm citing one example. I could just have a
laundry list. You know, it's just too often not communicating,
not writing, not blocking the right guy, or when even
when they're squared up and and they know who their
opponent is, you know, they just don't win on the block.
So yeah, it's a whole myriad of problems up front,
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particularly in the running game.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
How about the guy next to the guy that used
to be good? How did big Olu play yesterday?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Was a veteran who used.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
To be a good player, Jackson, you got to get
me that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Drive, man.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh, I think Olu's doing fine, he's he's had two good, good,
you know, decent games. I mean, no news is good news.
I don't think it's been anything that, you know, no
red alarm fires. I I like how he's you know,
he's reportedly doing a really good job in the communication piece,
and and I think his uh, you know, his his
balance is pretty good. I think that he that he
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anchors down on on the the bull rushes and so uh,
I think he's done a pretty good job. So I'm
I'm encouraged with what he might bring.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I saw this where the Seahawks are thinking
about going to is It So toa Lameya, the rookie, right,
the kid from is It Utah? Is that By the way,
Donald is talking about potentially playing him. Is he is
Is he doing that just because he wants Christian Hayines
to bust his ass and practice this week and earn
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that gig Or is he actually considering playing this guy?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think he's actually considering playing him.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't. I don't think he'd fool around with that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think that, you know, if if he's not Lemea,
is not getting the practice reps, then all of a sudden,
you know, everybody kind of looks around and go, what
the heck is coach talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And you know, and and I don't. I don't think
you establish any credibility. Mike McDonald doesn't strike me as
a second jive type of guy, so I would say that, yeah,
he's absolutely considering. And now the tape that I studied
from him in college, you know, I watched him at
right tack.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I go, WHOA, that is not a tackle in this league.
That that's an inside guy. And he just doesn't have
the athleticism. But that's why tackles get moved inside.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
And you know, if he's strong enough, then that would
be an opportunity for him to play. You know, you inside,
things go faster, and guys are heavier and stronger, right
and things go a little slower. We're talking micro second
of your tackle. You don't have to process as fast
with you know, potential blitzes and and stunts on on
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either side of you and whatnot. But you know, those
guys are defense tackles, not defensive ends, and they've got
they got more strength, So you got to be able
to anchor down.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Hugh, you were there live to watch Lane Kiffin pisses
chance at a playoff away this week with a loss
of the Florida Gators. And you told us last week
you were going to take a hard look at Jackson Darty.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What did you What did you make of him? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I thought he looked like every bit of an NFL
quarterback for you know, fifty seven minutes out of the game.
I mean, he he had some beautiful throws, you know,
NFL route tree throwing far hash corner routes and the
hasses even farther in the college game. And he had
a post route that he hit right over double coverage
for a touchdown. There was a gorgeous deep arcing ball,
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and then and he drove a touchdown pass between two safeties.
But then with the game on the line and the
last driver to in fourth quarter, he just kept throwing
Scooby snacks out there and giving the ball away and
making very poor decisions and Gators were getting their hands
on the ball. So, you know, I think, Dave, there's
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some interest in Florida football for me for obvious reasons,
but for Huskies based on the jet piece jet fish piece,
and so I think that every ardent Husky fan has
got at least one eyeball on what's going on in Gainesville.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And so you know, Florida's coming around.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
They beat LSU and Ole Miss back to back and
and so Billy Napier appears to be you know, he's
definitely coming back for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So there's some you know.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
We'll see probably be back on the hot seat if
he doesn't have success next year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, hey, hey, hu, just real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know we're late, but just give me like a
minute on this if you can, and we can discuss
this more Wednesday when you when you're filling for Dick.
But Dick and I were talking if you do start
demand Williams Saturday in Eugene and he struggles and Jed
wants to go back to Will Rogers, what do you
think Will Rogers reaction is going to beat all that?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, I think it's been tough to be Will Rogers
all through the season. I think he's been given the
red headed step child treatment and that would just be
a continuation of that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You know, I don't I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Don't know how he's wired, mate, you know, maybe be
angry and play well and clench his teeth and say
I'll show you that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'd be concerned.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You know, if the whole part of the reason why
you're doing all this is to keep demand in the
right frame of mind. We could have arguments about the
merits of that and all, but then what do you
do if the last thing you remember, you know, he
remembers I understand there's gonna be a Bowl game, but
but if if he remembers going down to Eugene and
getting pulled, you know, there there's some risk. Remember now,
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when Washington won that game, was it seventy to twenty one? Yes, correct, Yeah,
well that was as you know, Dave and Dick justin
Herbert's very first start of his college career. Now, he
was able to rebound from that, but you know that
that's a tough baptism. And I'm not saying that Oregon
has the capacity to do that to Washington, but you know,
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you just have to kind of think of, Okay, what's
blue sky scenario for this, what's the what's what what
are some concerns, and then yeah, yeah, you'll make your
decisions accordable.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's what That's what Gonzano thinks is going to happen.
I was on his podcast today and he thinks it's
going to be a seventy twenty one twenty sixteen like
game on.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Say that, but I the only thing I'll say in
that regard is if Dan Lanning has a chance to.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Do that, he'll do it for sure, Yes, he'll do agreed.
All right, we'll talk Wednesday. Right here we goes, guys,
all right, so we're got to break, Dick. I want
to get your thoughts, Jackson. You two. I was on
with Gonzano and Wilder today on their podcast, and you know,
John John's worried it's going to be a bloodbath on Saturday,
that it could be the reverse of twenty sixteen. Got
a break and see if we actually are concerned about
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that on Saturday next on ninety three three KJRFM
Joining us on the radio show a little special edition
of Mondays with Millan because we're off on Friday obviously
for the Thanksgiving holiday. He was going to be in
for you on Wednesday when you take the day off
for the Thanksgiving holiday. Only guy not taking a day
off is me for christ six. But joining us right
now on the radio show, our buddy Huey Millan, How
are you man?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What's happening Boyce? How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Getting ready for Chargers Ravens the Harpob Bowl. We'll get
your thoughts on that if we have time here and
in just a moment. But coming out of the Seahat game,
You've watched all the tape, You've broken down all the film,
You've crunched all the numbers. What are your takeaways, your
big takeaways coming out of yesterday's waiting against the Cardinals.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Well, I think that the defensive efforts stopping the run
was just so dominant that I think it just reverberated
around the rest of the entire football team and all
the other phases. I mean, here was an Arizona team
that came in second in the NFL in yards per
rush at five point two. Their first downs per rush
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was number one in the NFL. They're big plays in
the running game, defined by the NFL as ten plus
yards or more on a rush attempt. They were number
one in the NFL. And and you know, here's Seattle.
They just they just stoned the Cardinals. And when you
consider that fourteen of those yards were in one play
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on third and seventeen, which is defined by the NFL
as an unsuccessful run, despite the fact that it was
a fourteen yard run, you start, you know, parsing this
stuff out. And you know, for example, looking at at
how how few plays were actually tackled by the secondary
on Cardinal runs, there was you know, only three other times,
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and there was for zero three and zero yards. I
mean the front seven, the defensive line, the linebackers, they
just played in harmony. And they absolutely stoned the Cardinals.
And I think it impacted put the It took the
Cardinals out of the uh, out of the the order
in terms of trying to play on schedule. And so
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they're facing the second lungs, they're facing the third and lungs,
and Seattle's able to convert that into pressures and sacks,
and and they prevented the big play in the passing
game just to phenomenal defensive effort.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
And I just think this We've seen three games now
and I mentioned earlier, three games against quarterbacks that aren't
Chop Liver. I mean, you're talking about Stafford and Purty
and Kyler Murray. It's not the it's not the dregs
of the NFL quarterback wise. So is it safe to
feel as a Seahawks fan like the corner has been
turned and this is the type of defense that we
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should expect for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I don't know safe.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I would just say there's signs where you say, three
in a row against you know, three division quarterbacks. I mean,
you got you know, Purdy's going to be making sixty
million at least some people say that, but he's their
franchise guy. Stafford, of course, you know, it speaks for himself.
And Kyler Murray, whether you think it was justified or not,
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is a two hundred and fifty five million dollar quarterback.
I mean they they just absolutely you know, they showed
up for three weeks against your opponents and held him
to fourteen points exactly per game. We're talking about the
defense now, you know, forgetting that pick six that Gino threw.
That that's legion of boone numbers. Now it's only it's
(03:30):
only three games.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
But I think you, you know, you have a reason
to start to feel excited about where this defense can be.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, well, let's talk about Gina for a little bit.
I mean, obviously the interception was horrific. There were other
plays he made during the game that were obviously not horrific.
What'd you make of Gino's game overall?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Well, I think the type of game that if you
win it, you talk about all the things you did well.
If you lose that game, you're really focusing on what
he did poorly. And you know, you, first of all,
sixteen points generally is just not going to be enough.
That's always going to be laid at the feet of
the quarterback. That interception. Look, you could see he you know,
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he changed the line protection he thought, you know, there's
a threat of an overload of four week blitz, meaning
too is his blind side his left side. May have
changed the route combination. We don't know for sure. But
in that process that you see Buddha Baker Audible aying
out and they checked out of their blitz, went to
(04:32):
a standard three deep, fourigner zone. That's the oldest zone
in football. And and you know at that point they won,
they won the chess match, and so you cannot compound,
you know, try and create something out of nothing, and
then you know, evade the pocket, try and distort the
defense and then think you have a touchdown. Look, if
this is playing professional quarterback, if you think you have
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an off script touchdown to Tyler Lockett right there, then
smoke it in there and get the touchdown kick a
pat beautiful. But that decision is made in an instant
of you know, instantaneously, and Gino Smith in that moment
is trusted with the keys to the entire franchise. He's
got the keys to the ferrari and when he makes
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an interception like that, you know it's troublesome. And when
you consider over the last two years, this is twenty
twenty three and twenty twenty four. You know, he talked
about numbers on a on a podcast. Okay, then if
you invite us to look at.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
The numbers podcast, right right.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yeah, you know there's been there's forty eight quarterbacks who
have thrown for two hundred or more attempts. This is
twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four combined, Geno's rating
in the red zone is forty fifth out of forty eight.
Completion percentage forty fourth out of forty eight in the
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red zone. So you know, and there's some other ugly
numbers on third down that we can point to. So
that interception right there, unfortunately has been kind of like
him because he just has not been exceptional in the
red zone. Now he's been exceptional in game winning drives.
That's a real thing. He's got the most game winning
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drives over the last two years. That's situational football. But
to me, situational football the way I just think of
it as like what's a NFL practice, Like, well, Tuesday,
we have the day off. Wednesday we have you know
that's first and second down. Thursday is is mostly a
third down day, and then situational stuff on Friday, red
zone and and two minute and you know, throw it going.
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So between Thursday and Friday, that's your h that's your
specialty downs. And and so I just kind of look
and I say, well, he's one for three. He's really
good in two minute, but not good in third down,
not good, particularly not good in the red zone, so
that that aspect, it's an acknowledgement that not all players
are created equal. And so when you have those important downs,
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in those important situations, that's where you've got to merge
if you're going to be considered among the best.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
So are these agregious mistakes that he's making and multiple
against the rams? You know, big one last week and
could have had three this week. I mean, heck, he
had two balls picked off, one just wasn't corraled, and
he also had a fumble as well. How much are
these due to the offensive line and how much of
these would happen even if he had good protection.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, when you filter it for the pressure rate on
two and a half seconds or less, the average throw
is two point four to five from the pocket. The
NFL in their portal they say, okay, percentage of attempts,
you know, two point five seconds or less, I mean
there's a lot.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Two point five is not just Hugh Millin, sorry to go,
third person pulling up a random number.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
This is something that the NFL.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
You know, it's that's not my stat that's that's an
NFL stat. And then when you when you filter it
for that you know, his pressure rate is still high.
But there's others that you know, Brock Purty, CJ. Stroud,
Jalen Hurts, Matthew Stafford, Derek Carr, Kirk Cousins. There's a
number of quarterbacks who are pressured worse. So I would
just say, Dick, when you're talking about in the red zone,
(08:17):
everything is just accelerated. You just have to process faster
and you know, you have to anticipate more. If you're
going to drive the throw, you got to throw it harder.
Like everything is just condensed obviously. And you know, Kurt
Warner said the best thing that was ever you know,
in his career was having played indoor football league because
because everything was condensed in there, and that made him
(08:38):
a better red zone quarterback. Well, if you can kind
of lock into that that idea, then you can see
And this is not I'm not revealing anything you didn't know.
I'm just reminding you that piece of it that you know,
he's just got to be, you know, more anticipatory.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're late, you hold the ball. It's a lot
worse than the red zone, right, no question.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Well, maybe Geno Smith should go play in the Arena
League over the summer for something, I don't know, pick
up some experience and come back to the NFL. But
Hu Millin's with us on the air, and you know,
you you mentioned something this morning about the offensive line
that caught my ear and when you said the offensive
line is not a very good pass blocking unit, they're
a worse run blocking unit. Kenny Walker got the ball
(09:19):
fourteen times yesterday and they just could never ever get
a running game going. It felt like almost every time
he touched the ball there was somebody right in his
face in that game yesterday. Were you okay with the
amount of time Ryan Grubb dictated or dedicated sorry to
the run game? And what is keeping this running game
from honestly getting off the ground here?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Man, Well, I think there was a time there when
they were, you know, up thirteen to three, and you
know you had Mark Sanchez make a note of their
propensity to throw the ball there. I'm not sure if Sanchez,
you know, he comes in studies the Seahawks for a
few days and or you know, maybe the better part
of a week. You know, he didn't see it as
often as we do, so he's not aware of of Okay,
(10:02):
that sounds all well, and good, let's run the rock. Well,
you know what, second and nine is not very fun,
I think, is what uh what Ryan Grebb might be
thinking when he hears that part of the discussion. So
I would just say it's you know that they don't
get the movement. They you know they when you know,
first play of the game, you've got Lake and Thomlinson.
(10:23):
You know, this is a veteran guy that used to
be a good player. First play, you know you're trying
to go wide left.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
You just say, this is a veteran guy that used
to be a good player.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
You know, I'm sorry, that just made me laugh out loud. Okay,
let's let's let's be little. And when I said, first
of all, is he a veteran, Yes he is? He
a former pro bowler? Yes? Is he a pro bowler now?
No so, but but you know he's doing a double team.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
And then you know he just allows allows the linebacker
to just run through the gap that he has to
be aware of, and he's late getting to him, doesn't
get a piece of him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
And you know, now all of a sudden, you've got.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Canine you know what, three four yard loss and and
and you watch the plane you go.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Freaking hate man.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I mean, if Christian Haynes did that, I would say, Okay,
well I get it, he's a rookie. But but Lake
and Tomlins said, Okay, maybe he doesn't execute the block.
Maybe physically he gets overwhelmed, but how is he not
recognizing the run through that what we used to call
the junior Seau angle where he's trying to run underneath
as opposed over top of the chatter. He's trying to
(11:35):
run underneath. You've got to come off him. You got
to make that you know, at least attempt that block him.
And I'm citing one example. I could just have a
laundry list. You know, it's just too often not communicating,
not writing, not blocking the right guy, or when even
when they're squared up and and they know who their
opponent is, you know, they just don't win on the block.
So yeah, it's a whole myriad of problems up front,
(11:57):
particularly in the running game.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
How about the guy next to the guy that used
to be good? How did big Olu play yesterday?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Was a veteran who used.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
To be a good player, Jackson, you got to get
me that.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Drive, man.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh, I think Olu's doing fine, he's he's had two good, good,
you know, decent games. I mean, no news is good news.
I don't think it's been anything that, you know, no
red alarm fires. I I like how he's you know,
he's reportedly doing a really good job in the communication piece,
and and I think his uh, you know, his his
balance is pretty good. I think that he that he
(12:36):
anchors down on on the the bull rushes and so uh,
I think he's done a pretty good job. So I'm
I'm encouraged with what he might bring.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, well, I saw this where the Seahawks are thinking
about going to is It So toa Lameya, the rookie, right,
the kid from is It Utah? Is that By the way,
Donald is talking about potentially playing him. Is he is
Is he doing that just because he wants Christian Hayines
to bust his ass and practice this week and earn
(13:06):
that gig Or is he actually considering playing this guy?
Speaker 3 (13:11):
I think he's actually considering playing him.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't. I don't think he'd fool around with that.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
I think that, you know, if if he's not Lemea,
is not getting the practice reps, then all of a sudden,
you know, everybody kind of looks around and go, what
the heck is coach talking about?
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You know?
Speaker 3 (13:25):
And you know, and and I don't. I don't think
you establish any credibility. Mike McDonald doesn't strike me as
a second jive type of guy, so I would say that, yeah,
he's absolutely considering. And now the tape that I studied
from him in college, you know, I watched him at
right tack.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
I go, WHOA, that is not a tackle in this league.
That that's an inside guy. And he just doesn't have
the athleticism. But that's why tackles get moved inside.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
And you know, if he's strong enough, then that would
be an opportunity for him to play. You know, you inside,
things go faster, and guys are heavier and stronger, right
and things go a little slower. We're talking micro second
of your tackle. You don't have to process as fast
with you know, potential blitzes and and stunts on on
(14:12):
either side of you and whatnot. But you know, those
guys are defense tackles, not defensive ends, and they've got
they got more strength, So you got to be able
to anchor down.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Hugh, you were there live to watch Lane Kiffin pisses
chance at a playoff away this week with a loss
of the Florida Gators. And you told us last week
you were going to take a hard look at Jackson Darty.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
What did you What did you make of him? Well?
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I thought he looked like every bit of an NFL
quarterback for you know, fifty seven minutes out of the game.
I mean, he he had some beautiful throws, you know,
NFL route tree throwing far hash corner routes and the
hasses even farther in the college game. And he had
a post route that he hit right over double coverage
for a touchdown. There was a gorgeous deep arcing ball,
(14:59):
and then and he drove a touchdown pass between two safeties.
But then with the game on the line and the
last driver to in fourth quarter, he just kept throwing
Scooby snacks out there and giving the ball away and
making very poor decisions and Gators were getting their hands
on the ball. So, you know, I think, Dave, there's
(15:21):
some interest in Florida football for me for obvious reasons,
but for Huskies based on the jet piece jet fish piece,
and so I think that every ardent Husky fan has
got at least one eyeball on what's going on in Gainesville.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
And so you know, Florida's coming around.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
They beat LSU and Ole Miss back to back and
and so Billy Napier appears to be you know, he's
definitely coming back for twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So there's some you know.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
We'll see probably be back on the hot seat if
he doesn't have success next year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Well, hey, hey, hu, just real quick.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
I know we're late, but just give me like a
minute on this if you can, and we can discuss
this more Wednesday when you when you're filling for Dick.
But Dick and I were talking if you do start
demand Williams Saturday in Eugene and he struggles and Jed
wants to go back to Will Rogers, what do you
think Will Rogers reaction is going to beat all that?
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Well, I think it's been tough to be Will Rogers
all through the season. I think he's been given the
red headed step child treatment and that would just be
a continuation of that.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
You know, I don't I.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Don't know how he's wired, mate, you know, maybe be
angry and play well and clench his teeth and say
I'll show you that type of thing.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
I'd be concerned.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
You know, if the whole part of the reason why
you're doing all this is to keep demand in the
right frame of mind. We could have arguments about the
merits of that and all, but then what do you
do if the last thing you remember, you know, he
remembers I understand there's gonna be a Bowl game, but
but if if he remembers going down to Eugene and
getting pulled, you know, there there's some risk. Remember now,
(16:59):
when Washington won that game, was it seventy to twenty one? Yes, correct, Yeah,
well that was as you know, Dave and Dick justin
Herbert's very first start of his college career. Now, he
was able to rebound from that, but you know that
that's a tough baptism. And I'm not saying that Oregon
has the capacity to do that to Washington, but you know,
(17:21):
you just have to kind of think of, Okay, what's
blue sky scenario for this, what's the what's what what
are some concerns, and then yeah, yeah, you'll make your
decisions accordable.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
That's what That's what Gonzano thinks is going to happen.
I was on his podcast today and he thinks it's
going to be a seventy twenty one twenty sixteen like
game on.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
I'm not going to.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Say that, but I the only thing I'll say in
that regard is if Dan Lanning has a chance to.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Do that, he'll do it for sure, Yes, he'll do agreed.
All right, we'll talk Wednesday. Right here we goes, guys,
all right, so we're got to break, Dick. I want
to get your thoughts, Jackson. You two. I was on
with Gonzano and Wilder today on their podcast, and you know,
John John's worried it's going to be a bloodbath on Saturday,
that it could be the reverse of twenty sixteen. Got
a break and see if we actually are concerned about
(18:06):
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