February 6, 2026 • 17 mins
Jerry Brewer, newly with The Athletic, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss his new job and leaving Jeff Bezos’ Post, Jody Allen’s job done overseeing the franchise over recent years, Sam Darnold’s big success, and the potential for Seattle dominating.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Super Bowl. Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now back to our live coverage from Radio Row in
San Francisco, brought to you by Delta Airlines, by Snow
Colney Casino and Hotel, by the Evergreen Council on Problem
Gembling people come first, Construction Group and by Toyota of Kirkland.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Here's Softie and.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Donald in the gun gets the snap, four man rush,
moves up, backpedals, throws ends old caught touchdown car shide
Jackson Smith and Jigbab. Then Seattle's crabbed the lead on
a fourteen yard touchdown reception by one of the great
young receivers in pro football, Jackson Smith and Jigbab.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
That man right there, we'll sit down for his weekly
visit at four o'clock in person here Kevin Harlan coming
up in about a half an hour forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But right now, man, we make way for our.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Old pal now with the athletic no longer in the
Washington Post, thank god, because nobody's with a post anymore.
Our friend Jerry Brewer in person here at Radio Row
at the Super Bowl. How are you a big guy?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I feel very very lucky to help ob right now.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Your timing was impeccable.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I had no idea that something that bad was coming.
So it's been a tough week, but also a week
of gratitude.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Right right, Well, you know what, let me ask you
about that because the team, the Seahawks, are going to
be sold eventually, as you know, and one of the
guys that obviously gets mentioned the most is Bezos. Is
this a little bit of a peak into what he
would be like potentially if he owned the Seahawks, what
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he's done to that newspaper, or are those two things
completely separate in your mind?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Completely separate?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I think, I think football is not going to have
any problem making money, But I mean it's a window
into how cutthroat he can be. And obviously you're not
going to have a net worth of two hundred and
fifty three million, not that I've been counting two hundred
fifty three billion without you know, being a dishonest guy
(02:06):
sometimes right like that, that's the fact of the matter.
But as an NFL owner, in a situation where you've
gotten a salary cap, you've got a salary floor, I
think he would invest in the franchise. I don't think
he has any desire to spend a lot of time
in Washington State anymore. I think the perfect franchise for
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him would be if the Miami Dolphins got sold.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I just don't I don't see that. Yeah, I
mean I would.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
If I had to make a prediction, it would be
someone who's in Microsoft or associated with Microsoft in a
much bigger ownership group, which is a little scary on
its own, but it'd have to be a pretty humongous
ownership group to justify seven billion, seven point twenty five billion.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's probably what the franchise would sell for.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
How much credit do you give Jody Allen for what
she's done in the few years as being the trustee
of this team.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I'm glad you asked that, because I wrote about it
in The Athletic two days ago. You and I give
her I follow up, my god, thank you for the
plug and check.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That out like I get paid by the hit. No,
I'm just kidding. I give her a tremendous amount of credit.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Like, as you guys know, two of the most consequential
moves in Seahawks history.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She had to say yay or name the Russell Wilson trade. Uh.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
And then this decision, very nuanced decision, what to do
two years ago right, most owners would have fired Pete
and John or would have kept Pete and John, and
then you had the option like just Pete or just John.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
I think she had a great feel and it kind
of shows how connected she is to everything that John
was getting something going again right, and Pete was the
one as much I will love Pete forever, but his
it was getting stale.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You needed something new.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
And then on top of that, Mike McDonald the way
he explains it, like he really vibed with Jody and
knew that this was the job for him after he
talked to her.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So she was pretty integral.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
I mean, Mike o'donald's gonna take the job anyway, But
I think she was pretty integral in him knowing that
this was the right situation in getting comfortable early. So
a portion, if I had to do a slice of
like who's responsible for this, I would probably.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Go forty forty twenty.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Okay, so forty Mike McDonald, forty John Schneider twenty percent
the owner.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Most owners don't have that big of an impact.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Sure, well, your first year in Seattle was what remind me.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was right after the Super Bowl in five, just
two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So basically your Seattle career, if you will.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I know you're you're obviously working for the Post, but
you're still out there. Coencides with this run that Mike
Holmgren began in two thousand and five. And you're right
about it's scary thinking about a new owner. I mean,
I'm not worried telling Dick is either about the team moving.
Are we concerned that a new owner may not have
the same success as the Allens? Of course, it's a
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team that made the playoffs four times before Paul Allen
bought the football team. They've made it seventeen times since,
with four Super Bowls. So Dick and I were saying
in Jackson last segment, if even just getting here, but
if they really, if they win Sunday, whatever we thought
the franchise used to be is gone done.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Totally different perception.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
What is the perception now, you think with a win
Sunday of this Seahawks franchise nationally?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Well, I think nationally, even though it's more quiet than
some of the other organizations the Seahawks have seen as
a model franchise, there's not a lot of drama that
ever comes out of Seattle, whether they are as good
as they are now or whether they're more in the
ten and s X realm or more the five hundred rounds.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So there's already that.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And then I think when you look at what they
could accomplish, and I want to look at the totality
of the Allen era. You know, let's start it not
in ninety seven when he took over, but in ninety
nine when he got Homegren. And you take us over
these twenty seven years, right, You've had from Mike Holmgren,
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you had that little mini you had one year that,
like everybody has kind of forgotten with Jim Morris, it
was just one year. So I just consider you went
from Mike Homegren quickly to Pete Carroll immediately to Mike McDonald.
You nailed those hires, and now every single one of
those coaches has made a Super Bowl. If you get
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a second championship with the third youngest team in the NFL,
you're opening up a window like we've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
We saw this eleven, twelve, thirteen years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And this team in terms of person now is totally
different than the Russell Wilson legion of boom era.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But in terms of just.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
The bones of it, it reminds me they're almost exactly
the same, right, Like they have a few more like
high first round draft picks Devin Witherspoon, Jackson Smith and
Jigba like those guys, but it's so similar, like Charles Cross,
Russell o'coon, like starting it with the foundational left tackle
who's not a superstar, but it's pretty good, and like
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occupies that you know on through, like finding a quarterback
in a place where you didn't think you could find
a star quarterback, like all of that, Like it seems
the same, getting guys that some of them are reclamation projects,
some of them were Chris Clemens types, right, Like guys
that people just didn't really know what they had, finding
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the right veterans, it feels the same. And John Schneider
is what the first GM to make multiple super Bowls
with two different coaches, as long as he's still here,
right and like as long as he is, like we
haven't seen we're only beginning to see what John can
do when he is the singular voice, right and he
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doesn't have to barter with anyone, and he's not gonna
be on the heater that he's been on the last
three years. But I think as long as he wants
to stay here, this model franchise is going to have
more cracks at it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And so I growing up, Like the only thing I.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Really remember about the Seahawks growing up is when they
would play on Monday Night Football and it would be
a disaster against the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Or Bo Jackson is running over bars and he was
just with us two days ago talking about that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's correct, you know, like that's what I remember.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And then, like what I have experienced over twenty years,
I feel really lucky because there's there's been very few
moments where I felt like this franchise is teetering towards
being a disaster. I haven't always gotten it right, and
it's harder to do that, softy than it is to
be a dynasty. Absolutely, when you're a dynasty, like all
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it is is about managing your ego right, like right,
like the Cowboys for example, right, like they're the human
version of like what it takes, like this is something
that other franchises would envy, right because it's not always
been Roses.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Let me real quick an update on the Emon Warri situation.
Uh kayln Kaylor I think is the pool reporter for
ESPN this week? Uh safety nickimn Warri joined the defensive
backs and drills and participated in full played catch for
a ball boy during a break. He has no injury
designation for Sunday. Mike McDonald quote no designation for Nick.
(09:41):
Turns out he's alive.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He says, Mike McDonald's so great.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's great news.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
But you know, Jerry, you talk about John and he's
just never been afraid of taking the big swings right,
and but he's had his best luck or his best
fortune when he has just saved his draft picks and
used his draft picks instead of giving him away for
Percy Harvin and get him away for you know, Jimmy
Graham and those type of things. And he's done it
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twice now the twenty twelve crop and now the last
couple of years crop.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And then he caps it off with Sam Donald. Talk
about that move to get Sam darn How.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Bold a move it was to move away from DK
and Gino and go to Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
What that that's meant for this franchise?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah, I mean I joined many people in line who
needs to apologize for Sam Donald, to Sam Donald and
to John Schneider, because I thought it was gonna be
a disaster, really wow, really, And I was just worried
about what they had around him, right Like, I was like, man,
this is not gonna be a Vikings like situation, right,
(10:48):
and so now I gotta apologize to JSN who is
who it is?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
JJ?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
You know he is like Justin Jefferson, right, Like they're
different styles but same results. I thought that when you
take DK out of the equation, like, oh, now they
can't take the top off of a defense, there's not
gonna be enough space. They add Kubiak, and like it
was very clear coming from grub it was gonna be
a mandate to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I'm like, man, they're gonna I.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Thought they're gonna be the Texans, like the Texans word
this year, trying to win games ten to seven. Instead
they were blowing everybody out and had the biggest point differential.
What an incredible decision to know that this was that
Sam would fit in perfectly in this offense. And you
know now that you're gonna have to replace Kubiak, the
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question becomes do you just promote from within and.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Try to keep things the same.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
But these are questions that sure, these are the wonderful
questions that you have how.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To maintain a high level contender?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Jerry Brewer is with us here in San Francisco on
radio road. Did you bring a blanket with you, by
the way, because.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's so cold in here. I have complained about that
every day. A right, let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Nick his ankle injury now now put me on the
injury report because my ankle's all messed up.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know why because the bartender spilled like a whole.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yesterday and I jumped out of the way and I
jumped into like this weird crack and turned my ankle.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Hold.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, And I woke up this morning and I had
to use my luggage as a walker, which tells you like,
I'm forty eight years old and I need to get
a little more limber. Right, So when we get home
to Seattle, like I'm gonna be working getting some plyometric dude,
doing something to get myself.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Back in order.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I can't believe that em and worry and I know
how much of a freaky is. But like, his ankle
is good, and I'm on the damn injury.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That's right, using a suitcases as old as well.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's funny, it's old four times is good.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's funny that I was going to ask you about
about how old you were, because you're younger than me,
but you're so much more mature than I am, So
I kind of feel like I need permission from you
to kind of do stuff, you know, And I just wonder,
the thing that really stunk about the last super Bowl
that we lost wasn't just that you lost, It was
that you lost back to back, Okay, And so I'm
walking out of that stadium you were there to Dick
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walking out of the stadium thinking well, that's never gonna
happen again. That was a once in a lifetime chance
to win consecutive titles. Well, they got a lot of
money next year. They're a young team, they're just starting something.
I'm asking you for permission. If they win this Sunday,
can we start talking about getting back what was robbed
from us eleven years ago and going back to back?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
I mean, I think the pulse of this team is
so much more even keeled that they aren't gonna have
if they break through and win, it's gonna be it's
way more difficult after that, right, Right, But if they
break through and win, I think some of the people
management things that they were dealing with a dozen years
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ago don't apply to this group, and it'll be interesting
to see some of them when the lights are shining brightest.
We come out here and like, people really don't even
know who the Seahawks are. They've been so dominant all year,
and people really don't know like who the Patriots are, Like, man,
what like Bill Belichick's out here, like didn't they suck
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last year? And but yeah, like I think when you
look at the landscape of the NFC, when you look
at just the entire landscape of the NFL and the
fact that we're coming off of one dynasty and the
Chiefs and there isn't like that dominant, dominant team. If
the Seahawks win, we're going to look back and that
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whole narrative about how there wasn't a dominant team this
year has to be revisited, Yes, because we've been talking
about a team that had almost a two hundred point differential,
won their first round game forty one to six, just
outscored the Rams last week, the number one offense in
the league, and to me personally, I think if the
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Seahawks win this game, it ain't gonna be a little nibbly,
you know, twenty one twenty type thing like I'm calling
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Four to thirteen.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean I think they're significantly better.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Okay, but is that seventeen thirteen or is that twenty
four six six?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right, those are two different games there, man.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's more on the
end of twenty four to six and they sort of
score at the end. I think that Seahawks have been
threatening to play their best game all year and certain
things don't come together. There's been a lot of games
where it's like, man, they especially late in the year
when they started to run the ball better, where it's like, man,
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they could run away with this team, and then there's
a fumble.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Or there's an interception this or that.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I hate to go back to, you know, twelve years ago,
but there was something all week about that team before
that Broncos game, where you're like, they are like really
prepared to play their best game, Like even though there
was some Percy Harmon Harvin Golden Tate drama and all that,
they were really prepared to play their best game, and
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I feel similar to this team. The only thing that
I think could hold them back is they've never been
on this stage before. Neither have these Patriots, and so
wonky things might happen early in the game, but I
think once again, they are just as even as it
gets no matter what happens, and their defense is stellar,
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their offense is so efficient, their special teams is extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
When you go boom boom boom.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
And to borrow from Mike McDonald, when you start talking
about this edge and this margin and this margin, all
of a sudden you keep adding up, adding up, adding up,
and I just think there, I think they're double digit
points better. And the only way that they're not gonna
win by double digits, in my opinion, is if they
just like boot the ball around a little too much,
turnover here or there.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
The obvious stuff that can't hurt any team, no doubt.
All right, big Poppy, you're the man. Great to see.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You, Great to see you.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I mean, I hope we get a parade like yeah,
I mean, my kids have never been old enough to.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Go to a parade.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
How old you're oldest.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Now, he's thirteen right now.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right in his wheelhouse, and you'll take him right.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yes, my wife will definitely take him. Even if I
got to have.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
A walker, I'll be up to a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You see.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You see a guy walking down the street with a
suitcase is a crutch.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know it's Jerry, all right, you're the man. Great stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Good to see a pal, all right, Jerry Brewer with
us on the radio show We're Gonna Break Lee Sterling,
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The Super Bowl. Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now back to our live coverage from Radio Row in
San Francisco, brought to you by Delta Airlines, by Snow
Colney Casino and Hotel, by the Evergreen Council on Problem
Gembling people come first, Construction Group and by Toyota of Kirkland.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Here's Softie and.
Speaker 4 (00:18):
Donald in the gun gets the snap, four man rush,
moves up, backpedals, throws ends old caught touchdown car shide
Jackson Smith and Jigbab. Then Seattle's crabbed the lead on
a fourteen yard touchdown reception by one of the great
young receivers in pro football, Jackson Smith and Jigbab.
Speaker 5 (00:38):
That man right there, we'll sit down for his weekly
visit at four o'clock in person here Kevin Harlan coming
up in about a half an hour forty minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
But right now, man, we make way for our.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Old pal now with the athletic no longer in the
Washington Post, thank god, because nobody's with a post anymore.
Our friend Jerry Brewer in person here at Radio Row
at the Super Bowl. How are you a big guy?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I feel very very lucky to help ob right now.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Your timing was impeccable.
Speaker 6 (01:10):
I had no idea that something that bad was coming.
So it's been a tough week, but also a week
of gratitude.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
Right right, Well, you know what, let me ask you
about that because the team, the Seahawks, are going to
be sold eventually, as you know, and one of the
guys that obviously gets mentioned the most is Bezos. Is
this a little bit of a peak into what he
would be like potentially if he owned the Seahawks, what
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he's done to that newspaper, or are those two things
completely separate in your mind?
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Completely separate?
Speaker 6 (01:43):
I think, I think football is not going to have
any problem making money, But I mean it's a window
into how cutthroat he can be. And obviously you're not
going to have a net worth of two hundred and
fifty three million, not that I've been counting two hundred
fifty three billion without you know, being a dishonest guy
(02:06):
sometimes right like that, that's the fact of the matter.
But as an NFL owner, in a situation where you've
gotten a salary cap, you've got a salary floor, I
think he would invest in the franchise. I don't think
he has any desire to spend a lot of time
in Washington State anymore. I think the perfect franchise for
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him would be if the Miami Dolphins got sold.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I just don't I don't see that. Yeah, I
mean I would.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
If I had to make a prediction, it would be
someone who's in Microsoft or associated with Microsoft in a
much bigger ownership group, which is a little scary on
its own, but it'd have to be a pretty humongous
ownership group to justify seven billion, seven point twenty five billion.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
That's probably what the franchise would sell for.
Speaker 7 (02:56):
How much credit do you give Jody Allen for what
she's done in the few years as being the trustee
of this team.
Speaker 6 (03:03):
I'm glad you asked that, because I wrote about it
in The Athletic two days ago. You and I give
her I follow up, my god, thank you for the
plug and check.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
That out like I get paid by the hit. No,
I'm just kidding. I give her a tremendous amount of credit.
Speaker 6 (03:21):
Like, as you guys know, two of the most consequential
moves in Seahawks history.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
She had to say yay or name the Russell Wilson trade. Uh.
Speaker 6 (03:30):
And then this decision, very nuanced decision, what to do
two years ago right, most owners would have fired Pete
and John or would have kept Pete and John, and
then you had the option like just Pete or just John.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
She made the right decision.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
I think she had a great feel and it kind
of shows how connected she is to everything that John
was getting something going again right, and Pete was the
one as much I will love Pete forever, but his
it was getting stale.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
You needed something new.
Speaker 6 (04:02):
And then on top of that, Mike McDonald the way
he explains it, like he really vibed with Jody and
knew that this was the job for him after he
talked to her.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So she was pretty integral.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
I mean, Mike o'donald's gonna take the job anyway, But
I think she was pretty integral in him knowing that
this was the right situation in getting comfortable early. So
a portion, if I had to do a slice of
like who's responsible for this, I would probably.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Go forty forty twenty.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Okay, so forty Mike McDonald, forty John Schneider twenty percent
the owner.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Most owners don't have that big of an impact.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
Sure, well, your first year in Seattle was what remind me.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
It was right after the Super Bowl in five, just
two thousand and six.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
So basically your Seattle career, if you will.
Speaker 5 (04:55):
I know you're you're obviously working for the Post, but
you're still out there. Coencides with this run that Mike
Holmgren began in two thousand and five. And you're right
about it's scary thinking about a new owner. I mean,
I'm not worried telling Dick is either about the team moving.
Are we concerned that a new owner may not have
the same success as the Allens? Of course, it's a
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team that made the playoffs four times before Paul Allen
bought the football team. They've made it seventeen times since,
with four Super Bowls. So Dick and I were saying
in Jackson last segment, if even just getting here, but
if they really, if they win Sunday, whatever we thought
the franchise used to be is gone done.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Totally different perception.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
What is the perception now, you think with a win
Sunday of this Seahawks franchise nationally?
Speaker 6 (05:44):
Well, I think nationally, even though it's more quiet than
some of the other organizations the Seahawks have seen as
a model franchise, there's not a lot of drama that
ever comes out of Seattle, whether they are as good
as they are now or whether they're more in the
ten and s X realm or more the five hundred rounds.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
So there's already that.
Speaker 6 (06:02):
And then I think when you look at what they
could accomplish, and I want to look at the totality
of the Allen era. You know, let's start it not
in ninety seven when he took over, but in ninety
nine when he got Homegren. And you take us over
these twenty seven years, right, You've had from Mike Holmgren,
(06:23):
you had that little mini you had one year that,
like everybody has kind of forgotten with Jim Morris, it
was just one year. So I just consider you went
from Mike Homegren quickly to Pete Carroll immediately to Mike McDonald.
You nailed those hires, and now every single one of
those coaches has made a Super Bowl. If you get
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a second championship with the third youngest team in the NFL,
you're opening up a window like we've seen this before.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
We saw this eleven, twelve, thirteen years ago.
Speaker 6 (06:57):
And this team in terms of person now is totally
different than the Russell Wilson legion of boom era.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
But in terms of just.
Speaker 6 (07:06):
The bones of it, it reminds me they're almost exactly
the same, right, Like they have a few more like
high first round draft picks Devin Witherspoon, Jackson Smith and
Jigba like those guys, but it's so similar, like Charles Cross,
Russell o'coon, like starting it with the foundational left tackle
who's not a superstar, but it's pretty good, and like
(07:29):
occupies that you know on through, like finding a quarterback
in a place where you didn't think you could find
a star quarterback, like all of that, Like it seems
the same, getting guys that some of them are reclamation projects,
some of them were Chris Clemens types, right, Like guys
that people just didn't really know what they had, finding
(07:52):
the right veterans, it feels the same. And John Schneider
is what the first GM to make multiple super Bowls
with two different coaches, as long as he's still here,
right and like as long as he is, like we
haven't seen we're only beginning to see what John can
do when he is the singular voice, right and he
(08:13):
doesn't have to barter with anyone, and he's not gonna
be on the heater that he's been on the last
three years. But I think as long as he wants
to stay here, this model franchise is going to have
more cracks at it.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
And so I growing up, Like the only thing I.
Speaker 6 (08:31):
Really remember about the Seahawks growing up is when they
would play on Monday Night Football and it would be
a disaster against the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
Or Bo Jackson is running over bars and he was
just with us two days ago talking about that.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
That's correct, you know, like that's what I remember.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
And then, like what I have experienced over twenty years,
I feel really lucky because there's there's been very few
moments where I felt like this franchise is teetering towards
being a disaster. I haven't always gotten it right, and
it's harder to do that, softy than it is to
be a dynasty. Absolutely, when you're a dynasty, like all
(09:06):
it is is about managing your ego right, like right,
like the Cowboys for example, right, like they're the human
version of like what it takes, like this is something
that other franchises would envy, right because it's not always
been Roses.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
Let me real quick an update on the Emon Warri situation.
Uh kayln Kaylor I think is the pool reporter for
ESPN this week? Uh safety nickimn Warri joined the defensive
backs and drills and participated in full played catch for
a ball boy during a break. He has no injury
designation for Sunday. Mike McDonald quote no designation for Nick.
(09:41):
Turns out he's alive.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
End quote.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
He says, Mike McDonald's so great.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
That's great news.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
But you know, Jerry, you talk about John and he's
just never been afraid of taking the big swings right,
and but he's had his best luck or his best
fortune when he has just saved his draft picks and
used his draft picks instead of giving him away for
Percy Harvin and get him away for you know, Jimmy
Graham and those type of things. And he's done it
(10:10):
twice now the twenty twelve crop and now the last
couple of years crop.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
And then he caps it off with Sam Donald. Talk
about that move to get Sam darn How.
Speaker 7 (10:20):
Bold a move it was to move away from DK
and Gino and go to Sam Donald.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
What that that's meant for this franchise?
Speaker 6 (10:27):
Yeah, I mean I joined many people in line who
needs to apologize for Sam Donald, to Sam Donald and
to John Schneider, because I thought it was gonna be
a disaster, really wow, really, And I was just worried
about what they had around him, right Like, I was like, man,
this is not gonna be a Vikings like situation, right,
(10:48):
and so now I gotta apologize to JSN who is
who it is?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
JJ?
Speaker 6 (10:54):
You know he is like Justin Jefferson, right, Like they're
different styles but same results. I thought that when you
take DK out of the equation, like, oh, now they
can't take the top off of a defense, there's not
gonna be enough space. They add Kubiak, and like it
was very clear coming from grub it was gonna be
a mandate to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
And I'm like, man, they're gonna I.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Thought they're gonna be the Texans, like the Texans word
this year, trying to win games ten to seven. Instead
they were blowing everybody out and had the biggest point differential.
What an incredible decision to know that this was that
Sam would fit in perfectly in this offense. And you
know now that you're gonna have to replace Kubiak, the
(11:35):
question becomes do you just promote from within and.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Try to keep things the same.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
But these are questions that sure, these are the wonderful
questions that you have how.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
To maintain a high level contender?
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Absolutely well.
Speaker 5 (11:47):
Jerry Brewer is with us here in San Francisco on
radio road. Did you bring a blanket with you, by
the way, because.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
It's so cold in here. I have complained about that
every day. A right, let me tell you something.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
Nick his ankle injury now now put me on the
injury report because my ankle's all messed up.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
You know why because the bartender spilled like a whole.
Speaker 6 (12:08):
Yesterday and I jumped out of the way and I
jumped into like this weird crack and turned my ankle.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Hold.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Yeah, And I woke up this morning and I had
to use my luggage as a walker, which tells you like,
I'm forty eight years old and I need to get
a little more limber. Right, So when we get home
to Seattle, like I'm gonna be working getting some plyometric dude,
doing something to get myself.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Back in order.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
I can't believe that em and worry and I know
how much of a freaky is. But like, his ankle
is good, and I'm on the damn injury.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
That's right, using a suitcases as old as well.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
It's funny.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
It's funny, it's old four times is good.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
It's funny that I was going to ask you about
about how old you were, because you're younger than me,
but you're so much more mature than I am, So
I kind of feel like I need permission from you
to kind of do stuff, you know, And I just wonder,
the thing that really stunk about the last super Bowl
that we lost wasn't just that you lost, It was
that you lost back to back, Okay, And so I'm
walking out of that stadium you were there to Dick
(13:10):
walking out of the stadium thinking well, that's never gonna
happen again. That was a once in a lifetime chance
to win consecutive titles. Well, they got a lot of
money next year. They're a young team, they're just starting something.
I'm asking you for permission. If they win this Sunday,
can we start talking about getting back what was robbed
from us eleven years ago and going back to back?
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (13:33):
I mean, I think the pulse of this team is
so much more even keeled that they aren't gonna have
if they break through and win, it's gonna be it's
way more difficult after that, right, Right, But if they
break through and win, I think some of the people
management things that they were dealing with a dozen years
(13:54):
ago don't apply to this group, and it'll be interesting
to see some of them when the lights are shining brightest.
We come out here and like, people really don't even
know who the Seahawks are. They've been so dominant all year,
and people really don't know like who the Patriots are, Like, man,
what like Bill Belichick's out here, like didn't they suck
(14:16):
last year? And but yeah, like I think when you
look at the landscape of the NFC, when you look
at just the entire landscape of the NFL and the
fact that we're coming off of one dynasty and the
Chiefs and there isn't like that dominant, dominant team. If
the Seahawks win, we're going to look back and that
(14:37):
whole narrative about how there wasn't a dominant team this
year has to be revisited, Yes, because we've been talking
about a team that had almost a two hundred point differential,
won their first round game forty one to six, just
outscored the Rams last week, the number one offense in
the league, and to me personally, I think if the
(14:58):
Seahawks win this game, it ain't gonna be a little nibbly,
you know, twenty one twenty type thing like I'm calling
twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
Four to thirteen.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Yeah, I mean I think they're significantly better.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Okay, but is that seventeen thirteen or is that twenty
four six six?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Right, those are two different games there, man.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Yeah, I think it's I think it's more on the
end of twenty four to six and they sort of
score at the end. I think that Seahawks have been
threatening to play their best game all year and certain
things don't come together. There's been a lot of games
where it's like, man, they especially late in the year
when they started to run the ball better, where it's like, man,
(15:40):
they could run away with this team, and then there's
a fumble.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Or there's an interception this or that.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
I hate to go back to, you know, twelve years ago,
but there was something all week about that team before
that Broncos game, where you're like, they are like really
prepared to play their best game, Like even though there
was some Percy Harmon Harvin Golden Tate drama and all that,
they were really prepared to play their best game, and
(16:09):
I feel similar to this team. The only thing that
I think could hold them back is they've never been
on this stage before. Neither have these Patriots, and so
wonky things might happen early in the game, but I
think once again, they are just as even as it
gets no matter what happens, and their defense is stellar,
(16:30):
their offense is so efficient, their special teams is extraordinary.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
When you go boom boom boom.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
And to borrow from Mike McDonald, when you start talking
about this edge and this margin and this margin, all
of a sudden you keep adding up, adding up, adding up,
and I just think there, I think they're double digit
points better. And the only way that they're not gonna
win by double digits, in my opinion, is if they
just like boot the ball around a little too much,
turnover here or there.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
The obvious stuff that can't hurt any team, no doubt.
All right, big Poppy, you're the man. Great to see.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
You, Great to see you.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
I mean, I hope we get a parade like yeah,
I mean, my kids have never been old enough to.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Go to a parade.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
How old you're oldest.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Now, he's thirteen right now.
Speaker 3 (17:15):
Right in his wheelhouse, and you'll take him right.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
Yes, my wife will definitely take him. Even if I
got to have.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
A walker, I'll be up to a suitcase.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
You see.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
You see a guy walking down the street with a
suitcase is a crutch.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
You know it's Jerry, all right, you're the man. Great stuff.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Good to see a pal, all right, Jerry Brewer with
us on the radio show We're Gonna Break Lee Sterling,
our handicaper will make his prediction for Sunday next on
ninety three to three kJ RFM.
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