March 3, 2026 • 13 mins
Jon Wilner joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss the disappointment for UW basketball in the Danny Sprinkle era so far, if the excuses of injuries and travel are valid for UW, WSU’s difficult situation, and if the NCAA Tournament is going to expand soon.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly Pac twelve conversation with San
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, normally we have this guy at five o'clock.
But a little family minor emergency down there in San Jose,
our friend John Wilner. Courtesy of simply Seattle dot com.
Whatever you need to celebrate the Hawks championship KJR fifteen
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simply Seattle dot com. Here he is the pope of
(00:41):
the pack, the big ten bearon himself, our friend Johnny Wilner. John, Everybody, Okay,
down there, We're good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, sorry about that little little hiccup. We're bad timing.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's fine. I mean, if you need a day off,
you can take a day off, mate.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're not gonna be mad at you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Guys are working on working, okay, fire, let us talk
about you behind your back, but you can take them off.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, let's talk about what's going on basketball right now.
Big Ten Tournament coming up in Vegas next week, and man,
the Huskies are just circling the drain right now. John
up here in Seattle. Just a horrible loss to Wisconsin
over the weekend. They got usc coming up tomorrow and
Seattle with Senior Night. And the only way this team's
gonna make any noise is if they make a miracle
(01:24):
run and win the Big Ten Tournament. So what are
your thoughts as we sit here right now on Danny
Sprinkle's entire operation in year two?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I would say probably a little bit disappointing that
they didn't make more progress. They're not alone. You know,
it hasn't been a very good year for any of
the West Coast schools that are in the Big Ten.
I don't think that that's a coincidence. You know, the
situations are different at each campus, but you know they're
all facing a really this is a really tough deal
(01:54):
they got for their basketball teams. Washington, Yeah, I would
have expected a little bit more. I don't see any
way that they're gonna make enough noise in the Big
Ten tournament to get on the NCAA radar. I mean,
they gotta win the thing, and that's gonna be awfully
hard to do. I mean, nobody. I don't think anybody's
gonna beat Michigan. But the thing that you wonder about too,
(02:19):
and this is not just a Washington thing, but have
you guys looked at Utah State. No, they're pretty good.
They're pretty good. They're gonna make the nc doubleas as
an at large, I think, and I wonder. Sprinkle's not
the first former Utah State coach to struggle, right. We
just saw Craig Smith, who was at Utah State before Sprinkle.
(02:41):
He went to he was hired by Utah and he
flamed out at Utah in three years. And now then
Washington goes and hires you Sprinkle from Utah State after
having a really good year, and you think, boy, if
he could do that at Utah State, he's gonna be
a good hire for Washington. But Utah State keeps winning,
They're going to the NCAA Tournament under the like there's
a different coach in the last ten years. So I'm
(03:02):
starting to wonder if it's more Utah State and less
the coaches who are at Utah State and get hired
in other places.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Right, Well, John, the one word you haven't used yet
as injury, and they have been the most injury riddled
team by far in the Big Ten this year. How
much of an excuse do we use that to give
that the Danny sprinkle this year?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Some? I mean, Oregon's been pretty injured too. I haven't
compared the games missed by potential starters, but Oregon has
been battered as well. Now, how much of that is
you know, wear and tear from travel? How much of
it is just bad luck? You know, I haven't taken
a deep dive into that, but you know, injuries, they're
(03:45):
part of it. The problem is that last If you
have injuries in your first year, it's easier to kind
of excuse when in second year, third year, it's like, hey,
we need to see some progress here, especially with the
transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, John, you mentioned the travel problems that teams in
the Big Ten are having from the West Coast, and
it's way more of an issue for basketball because you
play a lot more games and you travel a lot
more obviously, Like you know, you Dubs got a trip
to Purdue in Michigan State, and that really is it? Right?
And they may have a buy between before or after
(04:19):
one of those games. But what's the fix then for basketball?
Outside of leaving the Big Ten, which they're not gonna do.
How do you fix this for basketball?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I don't care, but I don't see any way to
do that. And there's multiple problems in my mind. What
it is just the actual travel to go in to
play Penn State and Ohio State one week, come home,
and then you're turning around and going back there. Also,
I think the wear and tear adds up, you know,
(04:50):
so that you get to the second half of February
and the players are tired and the teams are gased
the other. But there's more to it than that. It's
also there's a lot times when the West Coast teams
will come home from a road trip right to face
a Big Ten team. Like I'm just pulling something out
of my hat. Wait, Washington comes back from a trip
and they're playing Illinois. But Illinois just played Oregon, so
(05:13):
Illinois's actually been on the West Coast play four days,
and so Illinois is actually Washington is in a lot
of ways. In that case, the team that has traveled
more than Illinois, even though the game is in Seattle,
because the Ali and I have had time to adjust
in Washington's getting off a plane in the next two
days later they got to play. So it works both
against the West Coast schools both ways in some respects.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well John Over on the other side of the state,
the Kougs have lost six of seven. They're twelve and nineteen.
They're at eighth place in the West Coast Conference. Is
this it for David Riley?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I don't know it for David Riley, but I wouldn't
be surprised if it is. They. Yeah, they are gone
the wrong way at the end of his second year
and they are spiraling. I don't know what the money
situation is, right, it's a tough deal. I don't think
he's got very much for his roster, but I also
(06:10):
think that they probably would have expected more. And he's
got a new president who really wants to win and
doesn't have a whole lot of patience, and she fired
their athletic director in November. So I would not be
I would put it at like fifty five forty five
that he stays. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
John, let me go back to the Big ten thing
for a second with the Huskies moving on with Oregon,
USC and UCLA, because I can hear some Cougar fans
out there going, yeah, I see, I told you. I
told you a stupid idea to go to the Big ten, right,
That's what they're all saying right now.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
This was a football decision.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
No, I'm I think I know that. But John, I
want to ask you from a view from forty thousand
feet and it's only the middle of year two. Obviously,
did teams like Washington and Oregon, because remember USC and
UCLA moved first. Did youwn Oregon right now as you
sit on March third of twenty twenty six, did they
(07:06):
do the right thing by moving?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't. I probably, but I don't know enough Because
I don't know. There's one piece of that Apple deal
that remains unknown to me, which was the ability within
the contract for games to get sub licensed to network TV.
(07:33):
And I've been told that that was part of it,
and I have been told that that. I've also been
told that that was very iffy. So that to me
is a big thing because if they could have gotten
the Apple deal and had game sub licensed done linear,
then it looks a little bit different than it does
right now. I mean, Washington is I just look at
(07:56):
the big picture, it's gonna be hard and at the
half share of the media rights revenue is gonna be
really hard for the Huskies, and I don't know that
they're ever going to get to a full share because
I think in the next contract cycle for the Big
Ten there's gonna be unequal revenue distribution, and so Washington
could be playing from behind for a long time. Oregon's
(08:18):
a little bit different because they got you know, they
got Phil Knight. So I would love to be able
to answer with one hundred percent clarity, but because of
that linear, unknown, linear piece, I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, Well, John, I'm sure with year three, big year
for Jed Fish, returning quarterback, returning fantastic defense for the
most part that they had last year. I'm sure that
in your first forecast you had the Huskies in the
top five of the Big Ten, right John.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Adam seventh, Actually, yes, you did? You know? They need
to prove to me that they can beat the best
teams in the Big Ten. That's that's what it comes
down to. They've got to be able to execute on
offense against him. They gotta be able to hold up
at the line of scrimmage, and they got to be
able to stop them. And so it's more of a
I need to see it before I believe it. Then
(09:13):
I'm gonna take to take a leap of faith. I mean,
just you think about the Big Ten. You're starting off. Basically,
you're behind Ohio State, you're behind Oregon, you're behind Indiana. Realistically,
fourth is the best you can do. But then you
got to deal with Michigan and Penn State and USC.
It's hard. There's a lot of really good teams.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I mean, my gut says, you're just waiting for Jed
Fish to show he can win a big game at Washington,
and he hasn't done that yet, right, I Mean, the
biggest game is probably Illinois right last season.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
But guys, to be fair, he doesn't have to win
a big game next year and they can still finish say.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And two, Dick.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's my point.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I was gonna follow this up.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Their schedule John Wazoo, Utah State Eastern, then they host Minnesota,
then they go two home against Iowa, at Purdue, at Nebraska,
Penn State's here, Michigan State there, and then Indiana Oregon.
Even if he doesn't win technically a big time game
against a top fifteen, top ten team, could you still
(10:15):
see him getting to nine or ten wins next year
with that schedule?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I can see him getting to nine, yeah for sure. Yeah.
But didn't they just get to nine?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, yes, with a tough schedule.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So if they get to nine with that non conference,
let's assume they win the Apple Cup. So they're six
and three at in and I mean, like that's probably
a three way tie for fifth or a four way
tie for sixth.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's the thing when I put those that forecast out, like,
there's no way it's going to be right, because there's
gonna be ties all over the place. And so when
I look at Washington, put him seventh. To me, that
means they could be in a three way tie for fifth.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
John back to basketball ties though, yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean it was six by the way last year.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I will say I was really surprised to see that
you had Penn State, who was an unmitigated disaster and
fired their coach ahead of Washington.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was very surprised to see that the.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Reason, well, I like to pick a few, you know, sleepers,
because it never works to form right. So it's just
a matter of whether you pick the right sleepers. So
I thought Pets. I think m Kim was a really
good coach. They still they got good players coming over
from Iowa State, and they still got some good players.
But I could you know, I could totally be wrong
(11:32):
about them, But it might be somebody else that we're
not thinking about.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
John Back to basketball, do you agree with Bruce Pearl
who says that if undefeated Miami of Ohio loses a
game in the conference tournament, they should not go to
the NCAA Tournament despite being like thirty one and one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, I think that if they let's say they get
to the finals in the MAC and they lose in
the championship game, I think they should be in the end. Absolutely, Okay,
I do, And I think that it's that will be
a very that will be a litmus test for the
soul of the NCAA Tournament because those are the teams
(12:13):
that you'll want to see in there, and you know,
if they get knocked, if they're out and you got
a nineteen and thirteen team from the big ten or
the sec in there instead. That to me, That to
me is disappointing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
John, Where are we at with expansion with the NCAA tournament.
Are we gonna in our lifetime in the next maybe
three or four years see this thing like get ridiculous
and be over like one hundred teams.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, it's I think they have to decide by April
if they're going to expand for next spring, and I
think that they will, and they'll add they'll go to
seventy six, I believe, is what the plan is. So
adding eight teams, you know, there's gonna be a fight
over money. There's gonna be fight over exactly who those
(13:01):
extra how they assign the bids between at large and
and you know, conference champs, and are they going to
find a way to kind of push down the one
bid the champions of the one big leagues into all
the first first ward type games. But I would think
that they will expand next spring to seventy six and
(13:22):
we will know within about six or eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Got it all right, man? Listen, great stuff. I hope
the kid's okay down there. Give them a high five
for us.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And we're talking a week thanks locking us,
It's time for our weekly Pac twelve conversation with San
Jose Mercury News reporter John Wilner, brought to you by
Simply Seattle. Our friends at simply Seattle dot com have
the most amazing collection of all things Seattle Seahawks gear.
UW had some of the largest selection of Sonnics gear
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
All right, normally we have this guy at five o'clock.
But a little family minor emergency down there in San Jose,
our friend John Wilner. Courtesy of simply Seattle dot com.
Whatever you need to celebrate the Hawks championship KJR fifteen
for fifteen percent off whatever, every time, every day at
simply Seattle dot com. Here he is the pope of
(00:41):
the pack, the big ten bearon himself, our friend Johnny Wilner. John, Everybody, Okay,
down there, We're good.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Yeah, sorry about that little little hiccup. We're bad timing.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
That's fine. I mean, if you need a day off,
you can take a day off, mate.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
It's not a big deal.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
We're not gonna be mad at you.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Guys are working on working, okay, fire, let us talk
about you behind your back, but you can take them off.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's fuck.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Well, let's talk about what's going on basketball right now.
Big Ten Tournament coming up in Vegas next week, and man,
the Huskies are just circling the drain right now. John
up here in Seattle. Just a horrible loss to Wisconsin
over the weekend. They got usc coming up tomorrow and
Seattle with Senior Night. And the only way this team's
gonna make any noise is if they make a miracle
(01:24):
run and win the Big Ten Tournament. So what are
your thoughts as we sit here right now on Danny
Sprinkle's entire operation in year two?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, I would say probably a little bit disappointing that
they didn't make more progress. They're not alone. You know,
it hasn't been a very good year for any of
the West Coast schools that are in the Big Ten.
I don't think that that's a coincidence. You know, the
situations are different at each campus, but you know they're
all facing a really this is a really tough deal
(01:54):
they got for their basketball teams. Washington, Yeah, I would
have expected a little bit more. I don't see any
way that they're gonna make enough noise in the Big
Ten tournament to get on the NCAA radar. I mean,
they gotta win the thing, and that's gonna be awfully
hard to do. I mean, nobody. I don't think anybody's
gonna beat Michigan. But the thing that you wonder about too,
(02:19):
and this is not just a Washington thing, but have
you guys looked at Utah State. No, they're pretty good.
They're pretty good. They're gonna make the nc doubleas as
an at large, I think, and I wonder. Sprinkle's not
the first former Utah State coach to struggle, right. We
just saw Craig Smith, who was at Utah State before Sprinkle.
(02:41):
He went to he was hired by Utah and he
flamed out at Utah in three years. And now then
Washington goes and hires you Sprinkle from Utah State after
having a really good year, and you think, boy, if
he could do that at Utah State, he's gonna be
a good hire for Washington. But Utah State keeps winning,
They're going to the NCAA Tournament under the like there's
a different coach in the last ten years. So I'm
(03:02):
starting to wonder if it's more Utah State and less
the coaches who are at Utah State and get hired
in other places.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Right, Well, John, the one word you haven't used yet
as injury, and they have been the most injury riddled
team by far in the Big Ten this year. How
much of an excuse do we use that to give
that the Danny sprinkle this year?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Some? I mean, Oregon's been pretty injured too. I haven't
compared the games missed by potential starters, but Oregon has
been battered as well. Now, how much of that is
you know, wear and tear from travel? How much of
it is just bad luck? You know, I haven't taken
a deep dive into that, but you know, injuries, they're
(03:45):
part of it. The problem is that last If you
have injuries in your first year, it's easier to kind
of excuse when in second year, third year, it's like, hey,
we need to see some progress here, especially with the
transfer portal.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Well, John, you mentioned the travel problems that teams in
the Big Ten are having from the West Coast, and
it's way more of an issue for basketball because you
play a lot more games and you travel a lot
more obviously, Like you know, you Dubs got a trip
to Purdue in Michigan State, and that really is it? Right?
And they may have a buy between before or after
(04:19):
one of those games. But what's the fix then for basketball?
Outside of leaving the Big Ten, which they're not gonna do.
How do you fix this for basketball?
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I don't care, but I don't see any way to
do that. And there's multiple problems in my mind. What
it is just the actual travel to go in to
play Penn State and Ohio State one week, come home,
and then you're turning around and going back there. Also,
I think the wear and tear adds up, you know,
(04:50):
so that you get to the second half of February
and the players are tired and the teams are gased
the other. But there's more to it than that. It's
also there's a lot times when the West Coast teams
will come home from a road trip right to face
a Big Ten team. Like I'm just pulling something out
of my hat. Wait, Washington comes back from a trip
and they're playing Illinois. But Illinois just played Oregon, so
(05:13):
Illinois's actually been on the West Coast play four days,
and so Illinois is actually Washington is in a lot
of ways. In that case, the team that has traveled
more than Illinois, even though the game is in Seattle,
because the Ali and I have had time to adjust
in Washington's getting off a plane in the next two
days later they got to play. So it works both
against the West Coast schools both ways in some respects.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Well John Over on the other side of the state,
the Kougs have lost six of seven. They're twelve and nineteen.
They're at eighth place in the West Coast Conference. Is
this it for David Riley?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
I don't know it for David Riley, but I wouldn't
be surprised if it is. They. Yeah, they are gone
the wrong way at the end of his second year
and they are spiraling. I don't know what the money
situation is, right, it's a tough deal. I don't think
he's got very much for his roster, but I also
(06:10):
think that they probably would have expected more. And he's
got a new president who really wants to win and
doesn't have a whole lot of patience, and she fired
their athletic director in November. So I would not be
I would put it at like fifty five forty five
that he stays. I wouldn't be surprised if he's gone.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
John, let me go back to the Big ten thing
for a second with the Huskies moving on with Oregon,
USC and UCLA, because I can hear some Cougar fans
out there going, yeah, I see, I told you. I
told you a stupid idea to go to the Big ten, right,
That's what they're all saying right now.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
This was a football decision.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
No, I'm I think I know that. But John, I
want to ask you from a view from forty thousand
feet and it's only the middle of year two. Obviously,
did teams like Washington and Oregon, because remember USC and
UCLA moved first. Did youwn Oregon right now as you
sit on March third of twenty twenty six, did they
(07:06):
do the right thing by moving?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I don't. I probably, but I don't know enough Because
I don't know. There's one piece of that Apple deal
that remains unknown to me, which was the ability within
the contract for games to get sub licensed to network TV.
(07:33):
And I've been told that that was part of it,
and I have been told that that. I've also been
told that that was very iffy. So that to me
is a big thing because if they could have gotten
the Apple deal and had game sub licensed done linear,
then it looks a little bit different than it does
right now. I mean, Washington is I just look at
(07:56):
the big picture, it's gonna be hard and at the
half share of the media rights revenue is gonna be
really hard for the Huskies, and I don't know that
they're ever going to get to a full share because
I think in the next contract cycle for the Big
Ten there's gonna be unequal revenue distribution, and so Washington
could be playing from behind for a long time. Oregon's
(08:18):
a little bit different because they got you know, they
got Phil Knight. So I would love to be able
to answer with one hundred percent clarity, but because of
that linear, unknown, linear piece, I just don't know.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Okay, Well, John, I'm sure with year three, big year
for Jed Fish, returning quarterback, returning fantastic defense for the
most part that they had last year. I'm sure that
in your first forecast you had the Huskies in the
top five of the Big Ten, right John.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Adam seventh, Actually, yes, you did? You know? They need
to prove to me that they can beat the best
teams in the Big Ten. That's that's what it comes
down to. They've got to be able to execute on
offense against him. They gotta be able to hold up
at the line of scrimmage, and they got to be
able to stop them. And so it's more of a
I need to see it before I believe it. Then
(09:13):
I'm gonna take to take a leap of faith. I mean,
just you think about the Big Ten. You're starting off. Basically,
you're behind Ohio State, you're behind Oregon, you're behind Indiana. Realistically,
fourth is the best you can do. But then you
got to deal with Michigan and Penn State and USC.
It's hard. There's a lot of really good teams.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I mean, my gut says, you're just waiting for Jed
Fish to show he can win a big game at Washington,
and he hasn't done that yet, right, I Mean, the
biggest game is probably Illinois right last season.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
But guys, to be fair, he doesn't have to win
a big game next year and they can still finish say.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
And two, Dick.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
That's my point.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I was gonna follow this up.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Their schedule John Wazoo, Utah State Eastern, then they host Minnesota,
then they go two home against Iowa, at Purdue, at Nebraska,
Penn State's here, Michigan State there, and then Indiana Oregon.
Even if he doesn't win technically a big time game
against a top fifteen, top ten team, could you still
(10:15):
see him getting to nine or ten wins next year
with that schedule?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
I can see him getting to nine, yeah for sure. Yeah.
But didn't they just get to nine?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Yes, yes, with a tough schedule.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So if they get to nine with that non conference,
let's assume they win the Apple Cup. So they're six
and three at in and I mean, like that's probably
a three way tie for fifth or a four way
tie for sixth.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
That's the thing when I put those that forecast out, like,
there's no way it's going to be right, because there's
gonna be ties all over the place. And so when
I look at Washington, put him seventh. To me, that
means they could be in a three way tie for fifth.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
John back to basketball ties though, yeah, no, I understand.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
I mean it was six by the way last year.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
I will say I was really surprised to see that
you had Penn State, who was an unmitigated disaster and
fired their coach ahead of Washington.
Speaker 1 (11:08):
I was very surprised to see that the.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Reason, well, I like to pick a few, you know, sleepers,
because it never works to form right. So it's just
a matter of whether you pick the right sleepers. So
I thought Pets. I think m Kim was a really
good coach. They still they got good players coming over
from Iowa State, and they still got some good players.
But I could you know, I could totally be wrong
(11:32):
about them, But it might be somebody else that we're
not thinking about.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
John Back to basketball, do you agree with Bruce Pearl
who says that if undefeated Miami of Ohio loses a
game in the conference tournament, they should not go to
the NCAA Tournament despite being like thirty one and one.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
No, I think that if they let's say they get
to the finals in the MAC and they lose in
the championship game, I think they should be in the end. Absolutely, Okay,
I do, And I think that it's that will be
a very that will be a litmus test for the
soul of the NCAA Tournament because those are the teams
(12:13):
that you'll want to see in there, and you know,
if they get knocked, if they're out and you got
a nineteen and thirteen team from the big ten or
the sec in there instead. That to me, That to
me is disappointing.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
John, Where are we at with expansion with the NCAA tournament.
Are we gonna in our lifetime in the next maybe
three or four years see this thing like get ridiculous
and be over like one hundred teams.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
No, it's I think they have to decide by April
if they're going to expand for next spring, and I
think that they will, and they'll add they'll go to
seventy six, I believe, is what the plan is. So
adding eight teams, you know, there's gonna be a fight
over money. There's gonna be fight over exactly who those
(13:01):
extra how they assign the bids between at large and
and you know, conference champs, and are they going to
find a way to kind of push down the one
bid the champions of the one big leagues into all
the first first ward type games. But I would think
that they will expand next spring to seventy six and
(13:22):
we will know within about six or eight weeks.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Got it all right, man? Listen, great stuff. I hope
the kid's okay down there. Give them a high five
for us.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
And we're talking a week thanks locking us,
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