May 6, 2026 • 19 mins
Legendary writer Larry Stone joins Softy and Dick Fain to react to the Mariners’ series win over the Braves, the optimism in 2026 considering the division, Dan Wilson’s usage of the M’s bullpen arms and having a little bit of worry with Andres Munoz now, issues with the defense continuing and possible next moves, plus his Twitter account hacking.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger,
better and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight Fugit
Sound locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between.
There's a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick,
here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
A little fun with audio coming up six pm tonight
right here on the radio program. But speaking of fun,
Larry Stone joins us right now in the radio program.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Always fun to have him on the show.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You know, every.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wednesday we say, God, what a great time to have
Larry Stone on the ear. I don't know if we've
said once in the last year and a half that
we've been talking here. What a terrible time to have
Larry on the ear. We should cancel that and let book.
He's got opinions on everything exactly. Well, he joins us
right now on the radio show, Larry, how are you man?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I'm doing great. It's a great time to be on
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Gay. It's always a great time, my friend. Well, baseball
is crazy. You get swept by Kansas City and then
just go take two out of three against the best
team in baseball with a chance really to win all
of them. Obviously that didn't turn out yesterday. But how
big was this? You think how important was this for
the Ems to kind of stem the tide after that
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sweep by Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well, I mean, this is getting to be a familiar story.
I mean, they were swept by the Rangers, they were
swept by the Padres, they were swept by the Royals,
and they've kind of bounced back each time. It's just
an inexplicable team that you can't just put your finger
on why they can't be more consistent. But I mean, theoretically,
you've got to think that winning a series against the
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team as good as the Braves is going to be
a confidence boost and propel them. But how many times
this year we thought that they were ready to take off,
Like after the last road trip the last time we
did this show, when they came home five hundred and
we thought, well that's you know, now they're on their way,
and they proceed to get swept by the Royals. So
I'm not ready to make any pronouncements like they're on
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their way or they're back or anything like that. But
it was a it was it was a I mean
it was it was a great accomplishment the Braves. That
lineup is incredible, But one thread after another.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, if you're not ready to make any pronouncements, and
the hell with you, what's the point.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's why we have you on to make pronouncements. People
want pronouncements.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Well, Larry, I mean, I think Dave and I are
both on the on the definitely on the optimistic side,
just because of all the injuries they have gone through
and just all kind of the bad luck they've gone
through thus far. And the one run loss is mainly
because the bullpen has banged up. You know, they've got
thirty three percent more one run losses than any team
in baseball. That's got to even out once their bullpen
comes back, don't you think.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, you got to think that. It seems like they're
playing a win run game every night. I mean, I'm
with you guys in the optimism department. One huge reason
is because the division is so weak, and really the
American League is so weak. Would you would you believe
that they're a playoff team right now as we talk,
Right now, they're the final wildcard team with an eighteen
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and twenty record pending the result the result of the
Royals game tonight, So they haven't been buried by any means.
As a matter of fact, they're still in a great
position at the one point when they do take off,
and there's so many things you've got to figure are
going to happen that will allow them to do that.
Cow is going to start to hit at some point,
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you know, the bullpit ten is going to get healthy,
Munnos is going to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I just feel like we have yet to see the
best of this team, and there's so much time ahead
that I will pronounce, make a pronouncement for you, Dave
that cable beach. That's fine, and I still think they're
going to a playoffs all.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Right, Well, thank god, because if we're not getting pronouncements
from you, then we got to reevaluate this entire thing.
But Larry, you mentioned the American League versus the National League,
and look right now, there's three teams in the AL
above five hundred, there's nine in the NL. I mean,
is that anything besides just kind of dumb luck? Is
there anything tangible behind why that is?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You think?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I really don't know what you could attribute that to.
Maybe it's because they're they're more like not big market
teams in the American League. Who didn't you know, with
the with the wild card, now, teams aren't as motivated
to go out and spend big because you know, you
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have a chance to make the playoffs with a five
hundred record basically. And you know, the National League has
the Cubs and the Braves and the Dodgers and the
Phillies who are and the Mets, who are all high
pay roll teams. Not all of them are doing great.
But I mean, that's the only thing I could think of,
is that the there's more teams that are actually trying
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trying to a massive powerhouse team in the National League.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Well, Larry, it's interesting how yesterday's game kind of ties
into today's game, especially surrounding Jose Ferrer, right, And you know,
Adam Jude tweeted after the eighth inning last night. Here's
where he tweeted. He said, Ferrer needed just ten pitches
to get through the eighth. He'll presumably be back out
to pitch to Olsen in the ninth. Well he wasn't,
and Olsen hit home run off of Munios. But then
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if he pitches the ninth, he's not closing today's one
run game. So I mean, is it kind of fair
just assume Yeah, everything worked out. I mean, Atlanta probably
should have gotten one of those two and Seattle probably
should have gotten one of those two.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, I was surprised that fer Air didn't go back
out there for the left one left. But the day
before that he had pitched, you know, a wrap around
inning as well, so it would have been two days
in a row where he was in two different innings.
So I understand why he did that, And I was
frankly surprised that he closed today on a third day
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in a row. But it looked great. Yeah, you could
probably just say that they snuck one away, but they
should have. How many games this year, including the Saturday
game where Hancock looks so great, where they've just kind
of frittered away at the end, and they didn't do
that today. And I mean, you got to give Farreer
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a lot of credit. He was facing the heart of
that order and he just mowed through them.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, the Luis Castillo conundrum is still a conundrum. Maybe
he looked better with this stuff over the weekend, but
still not getting the results he wants. And we're here
in all kinds of different ideas from different people. Everybody's
got an opinion on this. Like everybody's got a belly button,
they all want to share their opinion. Bill Krueger says
that he would put Bryce Miller in the bullpen because
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of the injuries. Chuck Powell says he'd go to a
six man rotation when Bryce Miller comes back. I think
we all agree that Emerson Hancock's not going anywhere. With
the fourteen strikeout game he had on Saturday, that part
of the equation is over. Well, we are probably a
week and a half, two weeks maybe from having to
answer that question. So what do you think the Mariners
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will do when Bryce Miller is activated?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, you're right. I mean the Hancock out of the
rotation is out of the equation now, I mean that
would be a dereliction of duty if they pulled him out.
He's been one of the best pitchers in the league,
not just on the team. There's three options you touched on.
Two of them, you move Miller to the bullpen, you
go to a six man rotation, and the other one
is you put Castillo in the bullpen. I think at
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this point I'm leading with Kruper. With the bullpen down
the way it is, I think Bryce Miller is a
guy that could really be a dominant force at the
end of games. I mean he can also he's also
shown he could be a dominant force as a starter,
but that was two years ago. Last year was he
didn't really show that except for just flashes maybe in
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the especially in the postseason. But I think that's what
I would lean towards, depending on what Casteele does in
his next start. He did give up those four runs,
I think it was four, but I was encouraged, but
I thought he looked really good except for that one inning.
You know, editing did happen. So you can't just say that.
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You can't just write it off. But his stuff had
ticked up a little bit, and I'm really I want
to see what he does the next time out. If
he has a total clunker, then maybe you reevaluate. But
right now I think that would be Miller in the bullpen.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Larry's son joining us on a weekly basis, brought to
you by the Ram. And Larry asked Chuck, not even
twenty four hours ago, if he was worried about Andre's munos,
and he said no. And then three hours after that,
Andre's munyos gave up the game, losing home run. I
ask you, now, are you worried about Andre's munos.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I'm a little worried about Andre's munos. I'm not panicky
about him. I mean he's struck out. He's struck out
twenty five and fifteen innings. That's the numbers of a
dominant pitcher. I think the stuff is still there. He's
giving up home runs at an alarming rate with something
he's never done in his career. I think three already.
(09:20):
All his numbers look pretty all his metrics and stuff
looked pretty good, except for batting a fridge on balls
and play, which is sky high, which tends to even
out over time and home runs, and he has been
dominant at times too. He looked like the old Munnos,
but he's also struggled in big situation. We've all seen
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it three or four times, so I'm not ready to
pull him out of the closer's role or anything, but
it was nice to see to tuck away in the
back of your head. The Farrer showed today that he
could close in a big time situation against the big
time team. I mean, he did have eleven saves last
year for the Nationals, so he's got some experience in
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that role. So I think he's kind of tuck that
away as a potential fallback if Munios continues to struggle.
But right now, I don't think they're gonna I don't
think they're going to pull him from that role. I
think they're gonna give him a chance to work through it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You know, it hasn't been really phenomenal as you're supposed
number one guy, and logan Gilbert, what's going on with him?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's just sort of the same story
as last year. He's having trouble putting putting uh guys away.
He gets to two strikes and then there's a four
foul balls and his pitch count is up. You know
that happens a lot. He did the four home runs. Yeah, yeah,
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granted they were solos uh the other day, but four
home runs is four home runs. That's too many. I
don't know what's you know, mechanically or anything, what's going on.
I'm not too worried about him. I wasn't worried about
Wu because of just I just wrote it off as
the two You're going to have a couple of clunkers
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during the season, and there they were. And today he
showed that he's just fine. Against a team that's probably
the best offensive team in baseball. He just mowed them down.
And I think Gilbert will be all right. But he
has not been the logan Gilbert. We thought, there's no
question about that this year.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Does this defense Warria Larry, it does Dick.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah. I think that's a big concern with this team.
All the the metrics show that they're one of the
worst defensive teams in baseball. And I mean, we've talked
about the dilemma that they have with what they're going
to do with Miller and the dilemma that they have
a little bit with what they're going to do at
the closer position. But I think they also have a
little dilemma with what they're going to do with JP. Crawford,
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no doubt at some point, at some point with you know,
Colt Emerson has not forced them to make this decision.
He's hitting two twenty three in the minor leagues and
triple A. You know, if he was hitting two ninety
right now, I think there'd be a clamor to bring
him up. But until you know, he gets hot, I
think they're just going to go status quote. But you know,
a lot of the metrics show that JP is just
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not shortstop he used to be and is a liability
at short that's such a key position with a staff
that relies on the defense behind Ian Kirby is getting
ground balls at a huge rate and he needs a
strong defense behind him, and so does everybody else. And
you know, I don't know what they're going to do.
JP's also become an essential part of their batting order.
(12:32):
You know, it's hard to say that for a guy
hitting about two fifteen, but he's pulling like a three
sixty five on base percentage and as the leadoff hitter. Yeah,
he's getting on base at about a four to fifty rate,
and I mean he's been sensational lead up. I'd leave
him there even when Donovan gets back.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I got one more for you, Larry forty four years ago. Today,
we're going to hear this in fun with Audio. Gaylord
Perry won his three hundred game with the Mariners, which
for us growing up as Mariner fans, was like the
biggest thing we ever had was gabl Berry winning that game,
although the.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Guy was here for a year, right, like the first
time the nation actually saw the Mariners playing a game.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's unbelievable. But here's the thing about Gaylord. He admitted
the cheating.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean, all these hitters don't make the Hall of
Fame because they're on steroids. But Gaylor Perry put everything
he could find out of baseball and admitted it barbarasol vadja,
sill snot whatever he could find it just out of
like the guy in Major League right, and he admitted
to doctoring the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But he's in the Hall of I mean, should he
be in the Hall of Fame? And if he's in
the Hall.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Of Fame, how come Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens can't
be in the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, for the record, I've I've voted for for Bonds
and Clements. Yeah, but each time they were on the ballot.
That's a that's a powerful argument, it really is. I mean,
I do think he should be in the Hall of Fame.
I don't. I don't think he cheated his entire career.
You know, he was a cy young pitcher as a
kind of a conventional pitcher with the Giants early in
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his career and also with Cleveland. But yeah, I mean
in the latter stages of his career, that's how he
got by, and that's how he hung on. Was was
through cheating and putting that idea even when he wasn't
doing anything that was part of his routine was to
run his hands. It was, you know, all over the
(14:23):
uniform and there just the fool hitters into thinking he
was loading up, even though he says he didn't do
it that much but only when he needed a big pitch.
But I don't know. I think there is a distinction
between that sort of thing and steroids. But but there
was also you know it with a wild wild West
with with steroids with no know, nothing on the books,
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which is why I vote for those guys. That Baseball
allowed it to happen after they put the rules in.
That's why I don't vote for a rod or Manny,
because they they they were caught cheating after it was
codified with in the in the in the contract that
you were not allowed to use steroids, and it was
you know, it was laid out loud and clear, and
then they still did it. So and well, we'll see
(15:08):
if those guys ever get in. I doubt if they will,
but uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All right, well, uh we're gonna let you go a
little early. We got a little bit of an issue.
Let me ask you a quick question, Larry. Are you
currently selling a Chevy truck on your Twitter account?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I am not.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Are you telling people where they can go to learn
about crypto on your Twitter account?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Oh no, yeah, you got hack.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You tried.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
You're trying to tell me I've been hacked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You've been hacked? Oh no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But the good news is you're retired. You can spend
a lot of time on it. I tell you what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put you on hold. Jackson
may have an idea. By the way, anyway, because he's
the smart guy here.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I have no idea. I've had to figure I.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Need to talk to Ian for nest because well.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, don't talk to him because he has no idea
how to get his account back, by the way. But yeah,
he would, he would definitely give you some pointers I
want not to do. But we'll let you go and
you can work on that and and get that taken
care of, because you're you're currently talking about crypto and
selling a truck on your Twitter account.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
All right, Well that must be in the last five minutes, yes,
ten minutes, because it was not that. I looked at
my Twitter account when we started this interview and it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Was fine eleven minutes ago, exactly, by the way.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
So what I means that that takes you guys out
of the realm of suspects. That's clear it It may
have been.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It may have been Chuck Powell, by the way, because
I know he's been gone here for a few hours
and he's home doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So all right, good luck with that man. Appreciate power.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Larry.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
All right, all right, Larry Stone with us. We'll let
him go a few seconds early. It's it's almost time
to break anyway. But yeah, I mean it's I hate
that crap, man, you know. And the worst part about
it is there's no one to help you, right Like,
there's no there's no phone call. And I would even
pay like an extra five bucks a month to be
able to talk a human being on the other end
of the line. I don't care what country the guy's in.
Just let me talk to somebody. But Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
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if you ever, if there's ever a problem, you can't
pick up a phone and call the human being to
get help.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And I think that stinks.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Now, you convinced me to get the little Blue check
because it helps with secure security.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's the only reason to do it.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
So I got I have seen nothing good about having
the little Blue check, but at least knock on wood,
that hasn't happened to me.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, that's the what do they call it, the two
step verification crap whatever it is. Or you get a
text to your phone or email and they have a
separate super secret code and a fingerprint and they scan
your eyeball all that stuff. That's why you do it, man,
for the freaking security, because any and any schmuck.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Can get a blue check.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Now you got people that are running parody accounts that
are getting blue checks all right on social media.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
So I'm just gonna say this right now, if any
of us get an email or an instant message or
a DM or anything asking us to log into our
Twitter account to do anything for them, right, don't don't
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, you know what's funny about that, Larry.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So, you guys know Chip Brown, the Texas two four
seven guy, the Orange Bloods guy in Austin. He sent
a d M to me about six months ago, and
it said I have qualified for a podcasting contest. Will
you please vote for me? So that's exactly what this
turned out to be.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
A scam. That's that's voting for him. Could could hack
clicking on the link toffee? That's That's exactly what just.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Happened with Larry. Oh wow, so he clicked on that
link on accident. Oh that sucks. The worst part of
my job, dude, social media, It's the worst part of humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That was one of the earliest promo to that.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's see how it goes first.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, okay, he gets it back, then we can have
some fun with it. But if not, then no, all right,
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:18):
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger,
better and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight Fugit
Sound locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between.
There's a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick,
here's Larry Stone.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
All right, we're back on a busy Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
A little fun with audio coming up six pm tonight
right here on the radio program. But speaking of fun,
Larry Stone joins us right now in the radio program.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Always fun to have him on the show.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
You know, every.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Wednesday we say, God, what a great time to have
Larry Stone on the ear. I don't know if we've
said once in the last year and a half that
we've been talking here. What a terrible time to have
Larry on the ear. We should cancel that and let book.
He's got opinions on everything exactly. Well, he joins us
right now on the radio show, Larry, how are you man?
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I'm doing great. It's a great time to be on
with you.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Gay. It's always a great time, my friend. Well, baseball
is crazy. You get swept by Kansas City and then
just go take two out of three against the best
team in baseball with a chance really to win all
of them. Obviously that didn't turn out yesterday. But how
big was this? You think how important was this for
the Ems to kind of stem the tide after that
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sweep by Kansas City.
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Well, I mean, this is getting to be a familiar story.
I mean, they were swept by the Rangers, they were
swept by the Padres, they were swept by the Royals,
and they've kind of bounced back each time. It's just
an inexplicable team that you can't just put your finger
on why they can't be more consistent. But I mean, theoretically,
you've got to think that winning a series against the
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team as good as the Braves is going to be
a confidence boost and propel them. But how many times
this year we thought that they were ready to take off,
Like after the last road trip the last time we
did this show, when they came home five hundred and
we thought, well that's you know, now they're on their way,
and they proceed to get swept by the Royals. So
I'm not ready to make any pronouncements like they're on
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their way or they're back or anything like that. But
it was a it was it was a I mean
it was it was a great accomplishment the Braves. That
lineup is incredible, But one thread after another.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
Well, if you're not ready to make any pronouncements, and
the hell with you, what's the point.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
That's why we have you on to make pronouncements. People
want pronouncements.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Well, Larry, I mean, I think Dave and I are
both on the on the definitely on the optimistic side,
just because of all the injuries they have gone through
and just all kind of the bad luck they've gone
through thus far. And the one run loss is mainly
because the bullpen has banged up. You know, they've got
thirty three percent more one run losses than any team
in baseball. That's got to even out once their bullpen
comes back, don't you think.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Yeah, you got to think that. It seems like they're
playing a win run game every night. I mean, I'm
with you guys in the optimism department. One huge reason
is because the division is so weak, and really the
American League is so weak. Would you would you believe
that they're a playoff team right now as we talk,
Right now, they're the final wildcard team with an eighteen
(03:20):
and twenty record pending the result the result of the
Royals game tonight, So they haven't been buried by any means.
As a matter of fact, they're still in a great
position at the one point when they do take off,
and there's so many things you've got to figure are
going to happen that will allow them to do that.
Cow is going to start to hit at some point,
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you know, the bullpit ten is going to get healthy,
Munnos is going to figure things out.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
You know.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
I just feel like we have yet to see the
best of this team, and there's so much time ahead
that I will pronounce, make a pronouncement for you, Dave
that cable beach. That's fine, and I still think they're
going to a playoffs all.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Right, Well, thank god, because if we're not getting pronouncements
from you, then we got to reevaluate this entire thing.
But Larry, you mentioned the American League versus the National League,
and look right now, there's three teams in the AL
above five hundred, there's nine in the NL. I mean,
is that anything besides just kind of dumb luck? Is
there anything tangible behind why that is?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
You think?
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I really don't know what you could attribute that to.
Maybe it's because they're they're more like not big market
teams in the American League. Who didn't you know, with
the with the wild card, now, teams aren't as motivated
to go out and spend big because you know, you
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have a chance to make the playoffs with a five
hundred record basically. And you know, the National League has
the Cubs and the Braves and the Dodgers and the
Phillies who are and the Mets, who are all high
pay roll teams. Not all of them are doing great.
But I mean, that's the only thing I could think of,
is that the there's more teams that are actually trying
(05:03):
trying to a massive powerhouse team in the National League.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Well, Larry, it's interesting how yesterday's game kind of ties
into today's game, especially surrounding Jose Ferrer, right, And you know,
Adam Jude tweeted after the eighth inning last night. Here's
where he tweeted. He said, Ferrer needed just ten pitches
to get through the eighth. He'll presumably be back out
to pitch to Olsen in the ninth. Well he wasn't,
and Olsen hit home run off of Munios. But then
(05:27):
if he pitches the ninth, he's not closing today's one
run game. So I mean, is it kind of fair
just assume Yeah, everything worked out. I mean, Atlanta probably
should have gotten one of those two and Seattle probably
should have gotten one of those two.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
Yeah, I was surprised that fer Air didn't go back
out there for the left one left. But the day
before that he had pitched, you know, a wrap around
inning as well, so it would have been two days
in a row where he was in two different innings.
So I understand why he did that, And I was
frankly surprised that he closed today on a third day
(06:00):
in a row. But it looked great. Yeah, you could
probably just say that they snuck one away, but they
should have. How many games this year, including the Saturday
game where Hancock looks so great, where they've just kind
of frittered away at the end, and they didn't do
that today. And I mean, you got to give Farreer
(06:21):
a lot of credit. He was facing the heart of
that order and he just mowed through them.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Well, the Luis Castillo conundrum is still a conundrum. Maybe
he looked better with this stuff over the weekend, but
still not getting the results he wants. And we're here
in all kinds of different ideas from different people. Everybody's
got an opinion on this. Like everybody's got a belly button,
they all want to share their opinion. Bill Krueger says
that he would put Bryce Miller in the bullpen because
(06:47):
of the injuries. Chuck Powell says he'd go to a
six man rotation when Bryce Miller comes back. I think
we all agree that Emerson Hancock's not going anywhere. With
the fourteen strikeout game he had on Saturday, that part
of the equation is over. Well, we are probably a
week and a half, two weeks maybe from having to
answer that question. So what do you think the Mariners
(07:09):
will do when Bryce Miller is activated?
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, you're right. I mean the Hancock out of the
rotation is out of the equation now, I mean that
would be a dereliction of duty if they pulled him out.
He's been one of the best pitchers in the league,
not just on the team. There's three options you touched on.
Two of them, you move Miller to the bullpen, you
go to a six man rotation, and the other one
is you put Castillo in the bullpen. I think at
(07:34):
this point I'm leading with Kruper. With the bullpen down
the way it is, I think Bryce Miller is a
guy that could really be a dominant force at the
end of games. I mean he can also he's also
shown he could be a dominant force as a starter,
but that was two years ago. Last year was he
didn't really show that except for just flashes maybe in
(07:56):
the especially in the postseason. But I think that's what
I would lean towards, depending on what Casteele does in
his next start. He did give up those four runs,
I think it was four, but I was encouraged, but
I thought he looked really good except for that one inning.
You know, editing did happen. So you can't just say that.
(08:18):
You can't just write it off. But his stuff had
ticked up a little bit, and I'm really I want
to see what he does the next time out. If
he has a total clunker, then maybe you reevaluate. But
right now I think that would be Miller in the bullpen.
Speaker 6 (08:39):
Larry's son joining us on a weekly basis, brought to
you by the Ram. And Larry asked Chuck, not even
twenty four hours ago, if he was worried about Andre's munos,
and he said no. And then three hours after that,
Andre's munyos gave up the game, losing home run. I
ask you, now, are you worried about Andre's munos.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
I'm a little worried about Andre's munos. I'm not panicky
about him. I mean he's struck out. He's struck out
twenty five and fifteen innings. That's the numbers of a
dominant pitcher. I think the stuff is still there. He's
giving up home runs at an alarming rate with something
he's never done in his career. I think three already.
(09:20):
All his numbers look pretty all his metrics and stuff
looked pretty good, except for batting a fridge on balls
and play, which is sky high, which tends to even
out over time and home runs, and he has been
dominant at times too. He looked like the old Munnos,
but he's also struggled in big situation. We've all seen
(09:42):
it three or four times, so I'm not ready to
pull him out of the closer's role or anything, but
it was nice to see to tuck away in the
back of your head. The Farrer showed today that he
could close in a big time situation against the big
time team. I mean, he did have eleven saves last
year for the Nationals, so he's got some experience in
(10:02):
that role. So I think he's kind of tuck that
away as a potential fallback if Munios continues to struggle.
But right now, I don't think they're gonna I don't
think they're going to pull him from that role. I
think they're gonna give him a chance to work through it.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
You know, it hasn't been really phenomenal as you're supposed
number one guy, and logan Gilbert, what's going on with him?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's just sort of the same story
as last year. He's having trouble putting putting uh guys away.
He gets to two strikes and then there's a four
foul balls and his pitch count is up. You know
that happens a lot. He did the four home runs. Yeah, yeah,
(10:40):
granted they were solos uh the other day, but four
home runs is four home runs. That's too many. I
don't know what's you know, mechanically or anything, what's going on.
I'm not too worried about him. I wasn't worried about
Wu because of just I just wrote it off as
the two You're going to have a couple of clunkers
(11:01):
during the season, and there they were. And today he
showed that he's just fine. Against a team that's probably
the best offensive team in baseball. He just mowed them down.
And I think Gilbert will be all right. But he
has not been the logan Gilbert. We thought, there's no
question about that this year.
Speaker 6 (11:20):
Does this defense Warria Larry, it does Dick.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Yeah. I think that's a big concern with this team.
All the the metrics show that they're one of the
worst defensive teams in baseball. And I mean, we've talked
about the dilemma that they have with what they're going
to do with Miller and the dilemma that they have
a little bit with what they're going to do at
the closer position. But I think they also have a
little dilemma with what they're going to do with JP. Crawford,
(11:46):
no doubt at some point, at some point with you know,
Colt Emerson has not forced them to make this decision.
He's hitting two twenty three in the minor leagues and
triple A. You know, if he was hitting two ninety
right now, I think there'd be a clamor to bring
him up. But until you know, he gets hot, I
think they're just going to go status quote. But you know,
a lot of the metrics show that JP is just
(12:08):
not shortstop he used to be and is a liability
at short that's such a key position with a staff
that relies on the defense behind Ian Kirby is getting
ground balls at a huge rate and he needs a
strong defense behind him, and so does everybody else. And
you know, I don't know what they're going to do.
JP's also become an essential part of their batting order.
(12:32):
You know, it's hard to say that for a guy
hitting about two fifteen, but he's pulling like a three
sixty five on base percentage and as the leadoff hitter. Yeah,
he's getting on base at about a four to fifty rate,
and I mean he's been sensational lead up. I'd leave
him there even when Donovan gets back.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I got one more for you, Larry forty four years ago. Today,
we're going to hear this in fun with Audio. Gaylord
Perry won his three hundred game with the Mariners, which
for us growing up as Mariner fans, was like the
biggest thing we ever had was gabl Berry winning that game,
although the.
Speaker 6 (13:03):
Guy was here for a year, right, like the first
time the nation actually saw the Mariners playing a game.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
It's unbelievable. But here's the thing about Gaylord. He admitted
the cheating.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
I mean, all these hitters don't make the Hall of
Fame because they're on steroids. But Gaylor Perry put everything
he could find out of baseball and admitted it barbarasol vadja,
sill snot whatever he could find it just out of
like the guy in Major League right, and he admitted
to doctoring the ball.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But he's in the Hall of I mean, should he
be in the Hall of Fame? And if he's in
the Hall.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
Of Fame, how come Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens can't
be in the.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5 (13:41):
Well, for the record, I've I've voted for for Bonds
and Clements. Yeah, but each time they were on the ballot.
That's a that's a powerful argument, it really is. I mean,
I do think he should be in the Hall of Fame.
I don't. I don't think he cheated his entire career.
You know, he was a cy young pitcher as a
kind of a conventional pitcher with the Giants early in
(14:03):
his career and also with Cleveland. But yeah, I mean
in the latter stages of his career, that's how he
got by, and that's how he hung on. Was was
through cheating and putting that idea even when he wasn't
doing anything that was part of his routine was to
run his hands. It was, you know, all over the
(14:23):
uniform and there just the fool hitters into thinking he
was loading up, even though he says he didn't do
it that much but only when he needed a big pitch.
But I don't know. I think there is a distinction
between that sort of thing and steroids. But but there
was also you know it with a wild wild West
with with steroids with no know, nothing on the books,
(14:43):
which is why I vote for those guys. That Baseball
allowed it to happen after they put the rules in.
That's why I don't vote for a rod or Manny,
because they they they were caught cheating after it was
codified with in the in the in the contract that
you were not allowed to use steroids, and it was
you know, it was laid out loud and clear, and
then they still did it. So and well, we'll see
(15:08):
if those guys ever get in. I doubt if they will,
but uh yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
All right, well, uh we're gonna let you go a
little early. We got a little bit of an issue.
Let me ask you a quick question, Larry. Are you
currently selling a Chevy truck on your Twitter account?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
I am not.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
No.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Are you telling people where they can go to learn
about crypto on your Twitter account?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Oh no, yeah, you got hack.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
You tried.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
You're trying to tell me I've been hacked.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
You've been hacked? Oh no, no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
But the good news is you're retired. You can spend
a lot of time on it. I tell you what
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna put you on hold. Jackson
may have an idea. By the way, anyway, because he's
the smart guy here.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
I have no idea. I've had to figure I.
Speaker 5 (15:55):
Need to talk to Ian for nest because well.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
No, don't talk to him because he has no idea
how to get his account back, by the way. But yeah,
he would, he would definitely give you some pointers I
want not to do. But we'll let you go and
you can work on that and and get that taken
care of, because you're you're currently talking about crypto and
selling a truck on your Twitter account.
Speaker 5 (16:15):
All right, Well that must be in the last five minutes, yes,
ten minutes, because it was not that. I looked at
my Twitter account when we started this interview and it.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Was fine eleven minutes ago, exactly, by the way.
Speaker 5 (16:27):
So what I means that that takes you guys out
of the realm of suspects. That's clear it It may
have been.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
It may have been Chuck Powell, by the way, because
I know he's been gone here for a few hours
and he's home doing nothing.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
So all right, good luck with that man. Appreciate power.
Speaker 5 (16:42):
Larry.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
All right, all right, Larry Stone with us. We'll let
him go a few seconds early. It's it's almost time
to break anyway. But yeah, I mean it's I hate
that crap, man, you know. And the worst part about
it is there's no one to help you, right Like,
there's no there's no phone call. And I would even
pay like an extra five bucks a month to be
able to talk a human being on the other end
of the line. I don't care what country the guy's in.
Just let me talk to somebody. But Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
(17:07):
if you ever, if there's ever a problem, you can't
pick up a phone and call the human being to
get help.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
And I think that stinks.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
Now, you convinced me to get the little Blue check
because it helps with secure security.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's the only reason to do it.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
So I got I have seen nothing good about having
the little Blue check, but at least knock on wood,
that hasn't happened to me.
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, that's the what do they call it, the two
step verification crap whatever it is. Or you get a
text to your phone or email and they have a
separate super secret code and a fingerprint and they scan
your eyeball all that stuff. That's why you do it, man,
for the freaking security, because any and any schmuck.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Can get a blue check.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Now you got people that are running parody accounts that
are getting blue checks all right on social media.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
So I'm just gonna say this right now, if any
of us get an email or an instant message or
a DM or anything asking us to log into our
Twitter account to do anything for them, right, don't don't
do it.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Well, you know what's funny about that, Larry.
Speaker 4 (18:06):
So, you guys know Chip Brown, the Texas two four
seven guy, the Orange Bloods guy in Austin. He sent
a d M to me about six months ago, and
it said I have qualified for a podcasting contest. Will
you please vote for me? So that's exactly what this
turned out to be.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
A scam. That's that's voting for him. Could could hack
clicking on the link toffee? That's That's exactly what just.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
Happened with Larry. Oh wow, so he clicked on that
link on accident. Oh that sucks. The worst part of
my job, dude, social media, It's the worst part of humanity.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
That was one of the earliest promo to that.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Let's see how it goes first.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Yeah, okay, he gets it back, then we can have
some fun with it. But if not, then no, all right,
we're Gonna Break Yellow Fun with audio on six on
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