August 11, 2026 • 14 mins
Matt Dery from the Locked On Lions podcast in Detroit joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Terrion Arnold situation including what he is currently in trouble for, if the Lions moved on too quickly from him, his quality on the field, what kind of a prospect he was coming out of the draft, and the current state of the Lions’ team.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But Terry On Arnold's story is obviously a big one.
Should the Seahawks sign him. He's a guy that's being
accused of some pretty nasty stuff. Right now, where do
you say we go to Detroit? He's been doing the
Locked on Lines podcast for ten years, which just means
one thing.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's really old. Our friend, Matt, Dearie, Matt, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man? Salah is good, softy. I will resemble that remark.
I will not be mad at you for that, but
always good to check in with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I just speak the truth, pal, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We are dinosaurs. We are a dying breed, and I
don't mind saying that. But let's talk about Terry On.
First of all, painter picture for us before we get
into Seahawks interest. Is he worth it? Is he worth
all the hubbub? Can he play? Blah blah blah. For
those that don't know the situation with Terry On Arnold.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What is he being accused of doing? And why is
he no longer a lion?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well? Obviously, back in February, some of his friends thought,
along with Terry On, it sounds like again allegedly that
they were robbed and that things were taken from a
home down in Florida, and so some of Terryon's friends
decided for retribution and exacting some revenge, and they plotted
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a kidnapping situation with these folks and then robbed them.
And then a bunch of people got arrested for putting
this together and certainly trying to harm some folks that
ended up not even being the people that stole the stuff,
and Terry On originally when police looked into it, it
was an investigation that found that he was not a
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part of it. And then as the investigation continued months
later and many of the folks that had gone to
jail and gotten in trouble, I believe kind of pointed
the finger that Terryon was one of the perpetrators and
one of the folks that put this kidnapping scheme together.
So then hence he was arrested, and the Lions decided,
even though that he's on bond right now and that
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innocent until proven guilty saucy that the Lions has decided
to cut bait. And originally Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach,
came forward and said, hey, we've talked to Terry On,
he's given us his side of the story. We support him.
But once he was arrested, once the mugshot was out
and all that in the bond, the Lions decided that
they did not want to be in that business anymore,
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and so they released him.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, we got two polar opposite polls going on here
because the Lions did exactly what you said, cut bait,
and yet there seems like there's a lot of interest.
So do you feel like the Lions cut bait a
little too soon on this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I don't. It's you know, obviously doing the Lions pod
and being here in Detroit, you know that this franchise
is one that really wants good culture fits. They want
they don't want any distractions. Their owner is a female,
is Shila hamp who has prided herself on having really
no knuckleheads in the locker room. And the Lions have
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had that under Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell. They've had
a good culture, good guys, and they've done some winning
and with Terry on Look, if Terry on Arnold was
a top five PFF corner and a dominant player, yeah,
maybe guys will have that discussion, but he hasn't been
and so I think the team just felt like the
best move here is to release him. They got plenty
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of information from the league and they decided to move
on without it. Now, are they great at cornerback two
opposite of DJ Reed? No, they anticipated terry On being
that guy, but I think they feel like they'll survive,
survive without him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I guess that's the question.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Matt and Matt Deery again locked on Lions with us
talking about Terry On Arnold, who the Hawks have brought
in for a couple of workouts. Just a former number
one draft pick out of Alabama played what ninety one
percent of the snaps. I think it was his rookie year,
got banged up a little bit, missed half the season.
That number dropped to barely over three hundred. So I mean,
how good is he?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Like, they's Seahawks fans that are a little bit ticked
off at the Hawks for even looking to the guy,
talking to the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is he worth all the trouble? You think this guy?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, that's the thing, Softy is you just don't. It's
two years and to be quite honest, and again, if
you're a Pro Football focus a PFF person, you look
up and you see that the grade that the total
grade for two seasons is below fifty. That's not good
and for a first round pick. I think the Lions
felt like before any of the stuff came out, Calvin Shepard,
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the defensive coordinator, said, this is a huge year for
Terry On. We like the kid. We think he's worked
hard year three as a corner in this league with experience,
we think he's gonna turn the corner. Obviously, things off
the field, you know, pushed him out. But they had
eye hopes for him this year. But if you look
at the body of work rookie year, a ton of
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penalties and holds and just pass interferences. Last year you
saw some glimpses then got hurt. They were hoping for
a big year for him, and now it's up to
one of these general managers, whether it's John out there
or whomever. It feels like they're going to take a
chance on him. But to say, hey, is he a
good player, I wouldn't say he's had a good two years.
I think he could be. But again, what if he's
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found guilty, then you got that distraction from the locker
room and ask him the GM and the coach why
even brought him in? I think the Lions just wanted
to get rid of all of that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What kind of prospect was he off the field that
when the Lions drafted him, and how has he been
to deal with when he was there?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
He was fine, to be quite honest, Dick, I think
that you know, you look up and you say the
Lions took a kid at twenty three again that's late
first round that there were people that argue they should
have taken Cooper dejen and now you look up and
you say that they probably should have. They had on
their board as the top two ranked corners going into
the draft are old number one, and actually had this
Rakestraw number two, who they took in the second round.
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And he hasn't been good either. So it wasn't Brad Olds'
best draft in twenty and Brad has some great drafts
and the Lions are a good team and Brad's done well,
but that twenty three draft or twenty four draft, excuse me,
was not Brad's best decent kid. Really, this surprised a
lot of people when they came out that he did
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allegedly had a hand in this kidnapping racket because he's
got a lot of supporters in terms of people that
are close to him in the league. But no, I
if he's innocent and he's found that guilty and all that,
and of course his lawyers say he had nothing to
do with it, I don't think you're going to have
a problem with him. The question is can he play?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, Well, that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean, and again, nobody's doing anything until they figure
out what the hell's going on with the court system.
I mean, they may, you know, jump the gun a
little bit if their own investigation unit tells them that
the guy is innocent. And the Hawks have a pretty
damn big security team that can look into all this stuff.
I think that's the reason why Dick he's been out
here twice, because they feel comfortable with his side of
the story.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I mean, Matt, you tell us Matt Darry locked
on lines if honestly, if you were the Hawks, knowing
what you know about him, you know they lost Greek
willand to Philadelphia. Kobe Bryant, the safety, took off to
go play for Chicago. He's banged up for them, but
they did take some losses in their secondary they're trying
to repeat his champions.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Would you do it with this kid?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, if you feel comfortable with the story he's
telling you about what happened off the field, with the
supposed kidnapping and live streaming this beating and watching it
from his house all that, would you do it if
you're the Hawks?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or would you do what? The lines didn't just say nah,
this ain't for us.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I mean, when I saw the list of teams that
he has spoken with and visited, including the Colts, why
don't they have the culture and the gusto that the
Seahawks have? Or New Orleans the team that I did think,
all right, Seattle can take a chance. You just won
the dance super Bowl. I mean we were all on
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Softy's Twitter and saw him dancing. So it's like, if
there's a team that's gonna get him a shot, why
not the Seahawks. And again, if it turns out that
he's found guilty, if he's got to go back to jail,
Seattle washes their hands of it. I like the culture
you guys have. I love your coach and what you
have there in your longtime general manager. Maybe that's the
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fit for him. Where He's coming into a Super Bowl
winner and you don't mess around. So the fit I
don't think is bad in Seattle. I wouldn't be going
to Indy or New Orleans or anywhere else. Seattle would
be a nice fit for him.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The final thing for me on Arnold matt and that
is if there's six plus teams that are interested. I mean,
we have lots of times where guys get in trouble
and they're toxic, nobody comes within a million miles of them.
So do you think the reason that there's at least
six teams including the Seahawks interested, is it because they
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know something about his guilt or innocence, or because he
is a first round draft pick talent just two years
ago and they don't care whether he's guilty or innocent.
They're gonna be able to sign him and then him
if he ends up being guilty.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, I think the latter. I think that there's still
you know, he's still twenty four years of age. He
was a first round pick. The Lions had high expectations
for him in year three. It does take a while
for a cornerback, a young one, to get acclimated in
this league. Lions were when they drafted Arnold justin the
NFC Championship game the year before, and he's played on
a fifteen win team, and I think teams are going
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to take a shot. And also it's the first time
offender for him, and I know what he did was horrible,
and I'm not excusing him. This is not a guy
with a long rap sheet from the past. And I
think it surprised the Lions that this really came to
a head in February, or not in February, but a
couple of months ago where he actually was arrested, so
they washed their hands of it. But I think teams
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are looking at him because they're intrigued by the talent
and he's not gonna cost them anything. He's gonna be right.
He's gonna play for the league minimum this year.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So well, Matt Matt Deary locked on Lions and Matt
were sitting here at the Emerald Queen Casino in Tacoma
two years ago. I was watching you guys at halftime
up twenty four to seven on San Francisco and then
it all fell apart in the second half. Man, you're
still chasing that, right, You're still chasing that super Bowl.
The amount of injuries you guys had last year, especially
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on defense, was just it was borderline idiotic. How many
injuries you guys had on defense a year ago? How
close is this team to getting another shot at a
game like that a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The roster, what's it look like?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And are people still kind of dealing with the scars
of that game a little bit?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Man?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know, it's interesting after that game, Safty Dan Campbell
said we may never get back here, and he's right.
They haven't been closed since now. They won fifteen games
the next year two years ago, and Cut bounced to
the second round. I look up and go, all right,
who are the teams to beat in NFC? Obviously, you guys,
the Rams are going to be a powerhouse. And I
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know you're tired of hearing about the Rams out there,
but I think the Lions are right there. I think
Detroit has a lot of talent. We know what the
identity is with that offense and Jared Goff and playing
so many games indoors, they can really score and they've
upgraded all offensive coordinator Drew Petsing is here now after
last year's disaster with John Morton and I like the defense.
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I think they've added some good pieces, and I think
if they stay healthy, like you said, with all the injuries,
there's no way they can have this many injuries again
defensively that they've had the last two years. I think
this team should win the division. I really believe that
there's a lot of talent. It's just a matter of
putting it together and getting some injury luck, and they
haven't had it so far. Kade mays they're starting centertive
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signing free agencies now out eight to ten weeks. He
just broke his wrist, so that's a huge blow of
the offensive line. But if he's back by week five,
I think they're gonna be okay. And they also have
the easiest schedule in football, so that helps as well.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I can hear all the fantasy players in Seattle say,
please ask about Jamiir Gibbs and if I should draft
them number one or if we should still have Beijon
being number one in the fantasy leagues.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I mean, kids is pretty damn good, and I
know he got a little bit more money than Bijon.
They're really gonna feature Jamiir a lot. I think the
one thing that you'll worry about when drafting. Jamira is Well,
the Lion's also Jameson Williams. I'm Dross Saint Brown, Sam
Laporta a lot of weapons, but he's not gonna be
sharing carries anymore with David Montgomery. He is going to
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be the bellcow and be the main guy. If the
Spear Gifts should have a huge year, I'm glad that
contract stuff is over and he is signed and ready
to go.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
If the Hawks can't make it, I'm rooting for you
guys or the Vikings, one or the other. But first
you guys, and then Minnesota. It's been like fifty years
since the Vikings have been there. You've never been there,
So if it can't be us, I just want you
to know I'm rooting for you, all right, Softie.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I appreciate that. You know I was rooting you in
last year, and you know, following all your videos on Twitter,
and I know I remember your text to me after
the Niners lost because you hate the Niners. So yeah,
I mean, why not Lions? And they have a really
good young core guys like Pinney Sewell and he and
Hutcheons and these young guys. They're gonna be good for
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a little while. But like you said, they've been now
three years of being pretty good. Time to take that
next step. Would be nice to play you guys in
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That'd be fun, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And if that game did happen, I would not be
rooting for you guys. By the way, just so you know, Matt,
great stuff. Appreciate it and we'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thanks Pal, Hi fellows, thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Matt, deary locked on Lions. You want him after what
you heard from Matt, carry on? Yes, Hey, if the
guy's Frank Claire. To me, it's pretty damn so.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean, it's a first round it's a first round
draft back talent sure that has not yet shown that
he can't play in the league. That's right, and you
get him for nothing. And if he's guilty, he's gone. Well,
So like what is the downside? If he's guilty, you're
probably not even signing it. You're probably waiting to see
what happens with this whole thing first. I mean, I'm
not saying there's gonna be a trial that will happen
between now in September.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But you'll get all the evidence you need.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And if you think he's gonna get a exonerated, then
sign the guy and he's gonna get a bare bones
contract likely. I mean the more teams though that feel
like the Hawks do Dick that this guy's innocent.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
There may be a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Bidding war for his services, right, And I think again,
if you're him, the question is where does he want
to play? Does he go to the team with the
most money, which is probably the case, or does he
want to go play for a Mike McDonald defense, sign
a short term contract, earn his reputation back, turn into
a star in Seattle, and then go kick free agencies
ass and make a hundred million dollars in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If he's smart, he signs with a team like Seattle
right for nothing, right and has a proven year, and
then go some point
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No doubt, no doubt, All right, we're gonna break
But Terry On Arnold's story is obviously a big one.
Should the Seahawks sign him. He's a guy that's being
accused of some pretty nasty stuff. Right now, where do
you say we go to Detroit? He's been doing the
Locked on Lines podcast for ten years, which just means
one thing.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
He's really old. Our friend, Matt, Dearie, Matt, how are you?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Man? Salah is good, softy. I will resemble that remark.
I will not be mad at you for that, but
always good to check in with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I just speak the truth, pal, no question about it.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
We are dinosaurs. We are a dying breed, and I
don't mind saying that. But let's talk about Terry On.
First of all, painter picture for us before we get
into Seahawks interest. Is he worth it? Is he worth
all the hubbub? Can he play? Blah blah blah. For
those that don't know the situation with Terry On Arnold.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
What is he being accused of doing? And why is
he no longer a lion?
Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well? Obviously, back in February, some of his friends thought,
along with Terry On, it sounds like again allegedly that
they were robbed and that things were taken from a
home down in Florida, and so some of Terryon's friends
decided for retribution and exacting some revenge, and they plotted
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a kidnapping situation with these folks and then robbed them.
And then a bunch of people got arrested for putting
this together and certainly trying to harm some folks that
ended up not even being the people that stole the stuff,
and Terry On originally when police looked into it, it
was an investigation that found that he was not a
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part of it. And then as the investigation continued months
later and many of the folks that had gone to
jail and gotten in trouble, I believe kind of pointed
the finger that Terryon was one of the perpetrators and
one of the folks that put this kidnapping scheme together.
So then hence he was arrested, and the Lions decided,
even though that he's on bond right now and that
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innocent until proven guilty saucy that the Lions has decided
to cut bait. And originally Dan Campbell, the Lions head coach,
came forward and said, hey, we've talked to Terry On,
he's given us his side of the story. We support him.
But once he was arrested, once the mugshot was out
and all that in the bond, the Lions decided that
they did not want to be in that business anymore,
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and so they released him.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Yeah, we got two polar opposite polls going on here
because the Lions did exactly what you said, cut bait,
and yet there seems like there's a lot of interest.
So do you feel like the Lions cut bait a
little too soon on this guy?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
I don't. It's you know, obviously doing the Lions pod
and being here in Detroit, you know that this franchise
is one that really wants good culture fits. They want
they don't want any distractions. Their owner is a female,
is Shila hamp who has prided herself on having really
no knuckleheads in the locker room. And the Lions have
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had that under Brad Holmes and Dan Campbell. They've had
a good culture, good guys, and they've done some winning
and with Terry on Look, if Terry on Arnold was
a top five PFF corner and a dominant player, yeah,
maybe guys will have that discussion, but he hasn't been
and so I think the team just felt like the
best move here is to release him. They got plenty
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of information from the league and they decided to move
on without it. Now, are they great at cornerback two
opposite of DJ Reed? No, they anticipated terry On being
that guy, but I think they feel like they'll survive,
survive without him.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I guess that's the question.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Matt and Matt Deery again locked on Lions with us
talking about Terry On Arnold, who the Hawks have brought
in for a couple of workouts. Just a former number
one draft pick out of Alabama played what ninety one
percent of the snaps. I think it was his rookie year,
got banged up a little bit, missed half the season.
That number dropped to barely over three hundred. So I mean,
how good is he?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
Like, they's Seahawks fans that are a little bit ticked
off at the Hawks for even looking to the guy,
talking to the guy.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Is he worth all the trouble? You think this guy?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Well, that's the thing, Softy is you just don't. It's
two years and to be quite honest, and again, if
you're a Pro Football focus a PFF person, you look
up and you see that the grade that the total
grade for two seasons is below fifty. That's not good
and for a first round pick. I think the Lions
felt like before any of the stuff came out, Calvin Shepard,
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the defensive coordinator, said, this is a huge year for
Terry On. We like the kid. We think he's worked
hard year three as a corner in this league with experience,
we think he's gonna turn the corner. Obviously, things off
the field, you know, pushed him out. But they had
eye hopes for him this year. But if you look
at the body of work rookie year, a ton of
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penalties and holds and just pass interferences. Last year you
saw some glimpses then got hurt. They were hoping for
a big year for him, and now it's up to
one of these general managers, whether it's John out there
or whomever. It feels like they're going to take a
chance on him. But to say, hey, is he a
good player, I wouldn't say he's had a good two years.
I think he could be. But again, what if he's
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found guilty, then you got that distraction from the locker
room and ask him the GM and the coach why
even brought him in? I think the Lions just wanted
to get rid of all of that.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Matt.
Speaker 4 (05:20):
What kind of prospect was he off the field that
when the Lions drafted him, and how has he been
to deal with when he was there?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
He was fine, to be quite honest, Dick, I think
that you know, you look up and you say the
Lions took a kid at twenty three again that's late
first round that there were people that argue they should
have taken Cooper dejen and now you look up and
you say that they probably should have. They had on
their board as the top two ranked corners going into
the draft are old number one, and actually had this
Rakestraw number two, who they took in the second round.
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And he hasn't been good either. So it wasn't Brad Olds'
best draft in twenty and Brad has some great drafts
and the Lions are a good team and Brad's done well,
but that twenty three draft or twenty four draft, excuse me,
was not Brad's best decent kid. Really, this surprised a
lot of people when they came out that he did
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allegedly had a hand in this kidnapping racket because he's
got a lot of supporters in terms of people that
are close to him in the league. But no, I
if he's innocent and he's found that guilty and all that,
and of course his lawyers say he had nothing to
do with it, I don't think you're going to have
a problem with him. The question is can he play?
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, Well, that's it.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
I mean, and again, nobody's doing anything until they figure
out what the hell's going on with the court system.
I mean, they may, you know, jump the gun a
little bit if their own investigation unit tells them that
the guy is innocent. And the Hawks have a pretty
damn big security team that can look into all this stuff.
I think that's the reason why Dick he's been out
here twice, because they feel comfortable with his side of
the story.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Man.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
So I mean, Matt, you tell us Matt Darry locked
on lines if honestly, if you were the Hawks, knowing
what you know about him, you know they lost Greek
willand to Philadelphia. Kobe Bryant, the safety, took off to
go play for Chicago. He's banged up for them, but
they did take some losses in their secondary they're trying
to repeat his champions.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Would you do it with this kid?
Speaker 1 (07:13):
I mean, if you feel comfortable with the story he's
telling you about what happened off the field, with the
supposed kidnapping and live streaming this beating and watching it
from his house all that, would you do it if
you're the Hawks?
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Or would you do what? The lines didn't just say nah,
this ain't for us.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
I mean, when I saw the list of teams that
he has spoken with and visited, including the Colts, why
don't they have the culture and the gusto that the
Seahawks have? Or New Orleans the team that I did think,
all right, Seattle can take a chance. You just won
the dance super Bowl. I mean we were all on
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Softy's Twitter and saw him dancing. So it's like, if
there's a team that's gonna get him a shot, why
not the Seahawks. And again, if it turns out that
he's found guilty, if he's got to go back to jail,
Seattle washes their hands of it. I like the culture
you guys have. I love your coach and what you
have there in your longtime general manager. Maybe that's the
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fit for him. Where He's coming into a Super Bowl
winner and you don't mess around. So the fit I
don't think is bad in Seattle. I wouldn't be going
to Indy or New Orleans or anywhere else. Seattle would
be a nice fit for him.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
The final thing for me on Arnold matt and that
is if there's six plus teams that are interested. I mean,
we have lots of times where guys get in trouble
and they're toxic, nobody comes within a million miles of them.
So do you think the reason that there's at least
six teams including the Seahawks interested, is it because they
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know something about his guilt or innocence, or because he
is a first round draft pick talent just two years
ago and they don't care whether he's guilty or innocent.
They're gonna be able to sign him and then him
if he ends up being guilty.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
No, I think the latter. I think that there's still
you know, he's still twenty four years of age. He
was a first round pick. The Lions had high expectations
for him in year three. It does take a while
for a cornerback, a young one, to get acclimated in
this league. Lions were when they drafted Arnold justin the
NFC Championship game the year before, and he's played on
a fifteen win team, and I think teams are going
(09:25):
to take a shot. And also it's the first time
offender for him, and I know what he did was horrible,
and I'm not excusing him. This is not a guy
with a long rap sheet from the past. And I
think it surprised the Lions that this really came to
a head in February, or not in February, but a
couple of months ago where he actually was arrested, so
they washed their hands of it. But I think teams
(09:46):
are looking at him because they're intrigued by the talent
and he's not gonna cost them anything. He's gonna be right.
He's gonna play for the league minimum this year.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
So well, Matt Matt Deary locked on Lions and Matt
were sitting here at the Emerald Queen Casino in Tacoma
two years ago. I was watching you guys at halftime
up twenty four to seven on San Francisco and then
it all fell apart in the second half. Man, you're
still chasing that, right, You're still chasing that super Bowl.
The amount of injuries you guys had last year, especially
(10:13):
on defense, was just it was borderline idiotic. How many
injuries you guys had on defense a year ago? How
close is this team to getting another shot at a
game like that a couple of years ago?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
The roster, what's it look like?
Speaker 1 (10:26):
And are people still kind of dealing with the scars
of that game a little bit?
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Man?
Speaker 3 (10:32):
You know, it's interesting after that game, Safty Dan Campbell
said we may never get back here, and he's right.
They haven't been closed since now. They won fifteen games
the next year two years ago, and Cut bounced to
the second round. I look up and go, all right,
who are the teams to beat in NFC? Obviously, you guys,
the Rams are going to be a powerhouse. And I
(10:52):
know you're tired of hearing about the Rams out there,
but I think the Lions are right there. I think
Detroit has a lot of talent. We know what the
identity is with that offense and Jared Goff and playing
so many games indoors, they can really score and they've
upgraded all offensive coordinator Drew Petsing is here now after
last year's disaster with John Morton and I like the defense.
(11:13):
I think they've added some good pieces, and I think
if they stay healthy, like you said, with all the injuries,
there's no way they can have this many injuries again
defensively that they've had the last two years. I think
this team should win the division. I really believe that
there's a lot of talent. It's just a matter of
putting it together and getting some injury luck, and they
haven't had it so far. Kade mays they're starting centertive
(11:33):
signing free agencies now out eight to ten weeks. He
just broke his wrist, so that's a huge blow of
the offensive line. But if he's back by week five,
I think they're gonna be okay. And they also have
the easiest schedule in football, so that helps as well.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
I can hear all the fantasy players in Seattle say,
please ask about Jamiir Gibbs and if I should draft
them number one or if we should still have Beijon
being number one in the fantasy leagues.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah, I mean, kids is pretty damn good, and I
know he got a little bit more money than Bijon.
They're really gonna feature Jamiir a lot. I think the
one thing that you'll worry about when drafting. Jamira is Well,
the Lion's also Jameson Williams. I'm Dross Saint Brown, Sam
Laporta a lot of weapons, but he's not gonna be
sharing carries anymore with David Montgomery. He is going to
(12:19):
be the bellcow and be the main guy. If the
Spear Gifts should have a huge year, I'm glad that
contract stuff is over and he is signed and ready
to go.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Yeah. Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
If the Hawks can't make it, I'm rooting for you
guys or the Vikings, one or the other. But first
you guys, and then Minnesota. It's been like fifty years
since the Vikings have been there. You've never been there,
So if it can't be us, I just want you
to know I'm rooting for you, all right, Softie.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I appreciate that. You know I was rooting you in
last year, and you know, following all your videos on Twitter,
and I know I remember your text to me after
the Niners lost because you hate the Niners. So yeah,
I mean, why not Lions? And they have a really
good young core guys like Pinney Sewell and he and
Hutcheons and these young guys. They're gonna be good for
(13:05):
a little while. But like you said, they've been now
three years of being pretty good. Time to take that
next step. Would be nice to play you guys in
the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
That'd be fun, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
And if that game did happen, I would not be
rooting for you guys. By the way, just so you know, Matt,
great stuff. Appreciate it and we'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Thanks Pal, Hi fellows, thank you, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Matt, deary locked on Lions. You want him after what
you heard from Matt, carry on? Yes, Hey, if the
guy's Frank Claire. To me, it's pretty damn so.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I mean, it's a first round it's a first round
draft back talent sure that has not yet shown that
he can't play in the league. That's right, and you
get him for nothing. And if he's guilty, he's gone. Well,
So like what is the downside? If he's guilty, you're
probably not even signing it. You're probably waiting to see
what happens with this whole thing first. I mean, I'm
not saying there's gonna be a trial that will happen
between now in September.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
But you'll get all the evidence you need.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And if you think he's gonna get a exonerated, then
sign the guy and he's gonna get a bare bones
contract likely. I mean the more teams though that feel
like the Hawks do Dick that this guy's innocent.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
There may be a little bit of a.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Bidding war for his services, right, And I think again,
if you're him, the question is where does he want
to play? Does he go to the team with the
most money, which is probably the case, or does he
want to go play for a Mike McDonald defense, sign
a short term contract, earn his reputation back, turn into
a star in Seattle, and then go kick free agencies
ass and make a hundred million dollars in twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
If he's smart, he signs with a team like Seattle
right for nothing, right and has a proven year, and
then go some point
Speaker 2 (14:40):
No doubt, no doubt, All right, we're gonna break
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