August 4, 2026 • 11 mins
Mike Florio joins Softy to talk about what to expect from the Hard Knocks debut, Bijan Robinson's extension, looking at Aaron Donald's latest move and how effective Micah Parsons will be when he returns to the field.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, Nick, thanks for our friends at simply Seattle
dot com. Getting ready for the upcoming Seahawks and Husky seasons.
Grabbing some new swags, some new gear at simply Seattle
dot com and always use code KJR fifteen at check
out for a fifteen percent discount on anything anytime at
simply Seattle dot com. Here he is our friend from
(00:43):
Pro Football Talk dot com, the NFL, and NBC.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We are dickless yet again to yes, it's true, this
man has no Dick. Mike Florio with us on the
radio show how Are You Pale?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
He's kind of like Newt Rockney there getting aman Hawks
that the Mariners ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You're ready, man.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Absolut freaking losely. Let's win win one for me. How's
that sound as a long suffering Mariner fan? Win one
for me? Well, I'll tell you what. Why don't we
start off, though, by what what Seahawks fans you think
should expect tonight, first time ever on Hard Knocks nine
pm your time, six pm our time. How much behind
the scenes are we really gonna see? How far will
(01:27):
they go? How impressed you think will fans be?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
By?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
How much to learn about this football team starting tonight
on HBO, Mike, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
The Seahawks have embraced this assignment in a way that
the teams had stopped embracing it. You've seen a lot
of resistance in recent years. The Seahawks attitude is we're
proud of how we do things and we want to
show everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So I guess it's easy to do it when you
just won the Super Bowl. You know, you really are
the cream of the crop right now. But I like
the ad. You know, if you have.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
To do it, you may as well accept it and
make the most out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And that's seems to be what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, Mike, there's a lot of moves today, a lot
of extensions in the NFL, and I don't know. Let's
start with Bijon Robinson just became the highest paid running
back in the history of the NFL three year, seventy
five million, fifty one million dollars guaranteed. We all know
that the highest paid guy is not always the best guy,
but kind of feels, I think appropriate that Bjon Robinson
is the highest paid running back in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, And what's ridiculous is how the running back markets
in the other back and the other.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Markets at the other positions factor into each other. Jackson
Smith and jig the highest paid receiver at forty two
point one five million, most objective individuals would.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Say, I'd rather have the Jeon.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Robinson dollar for dollar than Jackson Smith and Jigba. And
the way this Robinson deal works, Yes, it's a three year.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Extension worth up to twenty five million a year.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The base value of the the three new years is
twenty two point twenty five million. But when you add
that to the money that he was already due to
make over the next two years, and that gets folded
into a five year deal, the five year deal for
the Falcons is sixteen point three to six million per year,
(03:18):
which is a steal for how good he is. I
think about the cash that some of the best players
in the NFL are getting. And Jon Robinson, who Raheem
Morris when he was coaching the Falcons last year, said
on multiplecasions is the best player in the entire NFL.
He is getting peanuts in comparison. And that's not a
reflection on him, that's the reality of the running back market.
(03:40):
And so I thought that both he and Jamier Gibbs
would be holding the line to try to change the
way running backs are paid.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Jean Robinson didn't. And now the.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Question is how aggressive will Jamiir Gibbs be in trying
to to not just outdo Jon Robinson by a little bit,
but by a lot. Because it's not about the position,
it's about what I mean to the team. And you
look at how the Lions have reconfigured their offense. They
got rid of David Montgomery. They're they're gonna make Jamior
(04:13):
Gibbs the workhorse. And you know, for guys Mike Robinson
and Gibbs, you got one chance to break the bank.
This is it twenty four years old, three years in
full tread on the tires.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Still, now's the time to get paid.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So I wasn't surprised that Robinson did the deal, and
I guess I'm not shocked if the deal isn't better
than it could be.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But man, it's a bargain. You get a great running
back like that and you pay him pop.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
With the running back market, you're getting a great player
for a lot less than other great players cost.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, Mike Florio with US Pro Footballtalk dot Com usually
with us on Wednesdays, but we got the Hall of
Fame game coming up obviously, so Micha will be a
little busy this week.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You wrote about Aaron Donald at PFT today trying to
kind of increase his presence, grow his brand little bit.
How much of him coming back will be kind of
maybe driven by that idea to increase his Q rating
a bit if you will.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, he's been out of the public eye for two years.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
He worked the pregame show for Super Bowl sixty with NBC.
That was the first time we've seen him other than
just like workout videos on social media, but you know,
big platform stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
He hasn't done much.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So you come back and you play another year for
a team that's going to have seven primetime games, and
that is potentially going to be playing standalone games in
the postseason.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's a hell of a way to make your.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Transition into whatever it is he's thinking about doing by
hiring the firm that he's hired to help grow his
profile away from football. So it all kind of fits
together now, and hey, to the extensive he wants to
get involved in media and entertainment.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
He's doing this thing the right way.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
He's creating a lot of drama, and he's teasing us,
and he's taking his time, and man, it just feels
inevitable that he's gonna come back. I just don't know
when and how much you'll play once he's back back
on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, if you had to put money on this,
you would say he is returning. It's just a matter
of when not if.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Right, Well, he's doing everything he can't to get himself
in a football shape, and it reminds me the old
Jerry Seinfeld bit where he would talk about all these
people trying to get his shape, or are they getting
in shape for you know, most people are trying to
get any shape.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Are trying to get in shape for anything.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He's trying to get in football shape, why so he
can say I'm in football shape or to play football.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think he's gonna come back.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And the only way he doesn't is if he is
able to objectively come to the conclusion that he's gonna
fall short of whatever standard he otherwise hopes to establish.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
And you're only gonna find that out if you get
out on the field. That all this other stuff isn't
going to tell him how it's gonna feel when he
goes against players who have been playing the last two years.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Whether in the NFL or in college. And it reminds
me when Lawrence Taylor retired, he went to.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Bill Parcells and he said, man, he's these guys are
these young guys are fast? And Parcels said to him, no, Lawrence,
you're slow. You're not the guy you used to be.
And and how can Aaron dn't even begin to come
to that conclusion until he is competing full speed against
the guys who have been playing the last two years.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You wrote about mikeah Parsons too, I think on the
website about his injury, and uh, you know how good
he's going to be when he does come back. I mean,
I look, they gave up two first round draft picks
for him. You think the Packers are regretting doing that,
And how how effective do you think Mike cah Parsons
will be when.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He does come back coming off the injury.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Anytime you give up significant assets for a pass rusher,
for any player really, but especially the guy who is
in that that fray where.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
All sorts of things can happen once the ball is snapped,
you give up the assets, you get a big contract.
Part of the risk you're assuming, and and you're assuming
that risk away from him. This is why the player
tries to get paid. I want the risk of injury
to be on the team, not on me. And so
the Packers took on the risk of injury. And now
they've got the draft picks riding on it, they've.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Got the money riding on it.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And the smart play is to not rush anything and
let him, let him get healthy. And he said before
this is about being healthy later in the year, not
to rush back for early season games. And he's talked
about maybe Week six against the Cowboys is the time
to come back.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The only risks that you take.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
By waiting Once you start losing games in September and October,
your windows starts to get pretty narrow, and there may
not be playoffs.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
If you lose too many games before.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Michael Parsons is back on the field and back to
his usual workload.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
All right, great news, Mike. Last one for you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Mike Florio with US Pro Footballtalk dot Com, usually on Wednesday,
I know, but here on a Tuesday before the Hall
of Fame game on Thursday in Canton, Carolina, Arizona. And
I thought this was a joke when I first saw it,
but apparently it's not. That the Rams are going to
fly into Australia the day before they're a game with
the Niners and fly out the day after. I mean,
(09:12):
does that sound like a good idea to you?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, I mean there's different ways you can do these things,
and there's all.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Sorts of advanced sports science, and you know, I guess
the idea is that the jet light doesn't matter if
you never change your clock, right, and you go there
and you go there on your terms, and you go
there on your clock, and you know.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's it's still going to be.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
What a night game East Coast time, late afternoon game
West coast time and you just stick to that. Maybe
that's their calculation for the minimal disruption on the team.
Get in, play the game, get out. We've seen, you know,
for a lot of the London games. We've seen teams
doing that in recent years. But they come up with
a plan, they believe in the plan, they stick to
(09:58):
the plan, and uh, you know, why go Why all
the time you go there ahead of time is valuable
time where you could be in your regular environment.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Working and being comfortable and being normal.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You know, I love to delay as long as possible
any trip I have to make. I love to be
home as long as I can. So they got to
make the trip of the way. You may as well
keep it short. You can go to Australia on a
vacation after you retire.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, you're not putting your neck on the line though,
right literally physically when you step out of your to
your you know, a place of work when you land
in that city. Anyway, Mike, great stuff. Love having you on,
always love having you in some alone time. And we'll
talk in a week man later. Yeah, Mike Florio with us,
I'm doubting the pause. He stops for a quick second
(10:45):
to think of some smart ass response.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
If you can't, he just says goodbye. We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Steve Phillips, former GM, gonna join us to talk about
everything the MS have been up to. What about this
idea that all of a sudden, the world hates the Dodgers.
Steve Phillips joins the show talks some baseball. Next on
ninety three three kJ R FM
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Seattle dot com now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, Nick, thanks for our friends at simply Seattle
dot com. Getting ready for the upcoming Seahawks and Husky seasons.
Grabbing some new swags, some new gear at simply Seattle
dot com and always use code KJR fifteen at check
out for a fifteen percent discount on anything anytime at
simply Seattle dot com. Here he is our friend from
(00:43):
Pro Football Talk dot com, the NFL, and NBC.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
We are dickless yet again to yes, it's true, this
man has no Dick. Mike Florio with us on the
radio show how Are You Pale?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Dude?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
He's kind of like Newt Rockney there getting aman Hawks
that the Mariners ready to go.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
You're ready, man.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Let's go.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Absolut freaking losely. Let's win win one for me. How's
that sound as a long suffering Mariner fan? Win one
for me? Well, I'll tell you what. Why don't we
start off, though, by what what Seahawks fans you think
should expect tonight, first time ever on Hard Knocks nine
pm your time, six pm our time. How much behind
the scenes are we really gonna see? How far will
(01:27):
they go? How impressed you think will fans be?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
By?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
How much to learn about this football team starting tonight
on HBO, Mike, you know.
Speaker 6 (01:35):
The Seahawks have embraced this assignment in a way that
the teams had stopped embracing it. You've seen a lot
of resistance in recent years. The Seahawks attitude is we're
proud of how we do things and we want to
show everyone.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
So I guess it's easy to do it when you
just won the Super Bowl. You know, you really are
the cream of the crop right now. But I like
the ad. You know, if you have.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
To do it, you may as well accept it and
make the most out of it.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
And that's seems to be what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Well, Mike, there's a lot of moves today, a lot
of extensions in the NFL, and I don't know. Let's
start with Bijon Robinson just became the highest paid running
back in the history of the NFL three year, seventy
five million, fifty one million dollars guaranteed. We all know
that the highest paid guy is not always the best guy,
but kind of feels, I think appropriate that Bjon Robinson
is the highest paid running back in the NFL.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
Well, And what's ridiculous is how the running back markets
in the other back and the other.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
Markets at the other positions factor into each other. Jackson
Smith and jig the highest paid receiver at forty two
point one five million, most objective individuals would.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Say, I'd rather have the Jeon.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Robinson dollar for dollar than Jackson Smith and Jigba. And
the way this Robinson deal works, Yes, it's a three year.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Extension worth up to twenty five million a year.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
The base value of the the three new years is
twenty two point twenty five million. But when you add
that to the money that he was already due to
make over the next two years, and that gets folded
into a five year deal, the five year deal for
the Falcons is sixteen point three to six million per year,
(03:18):
which is a steal for how good he is. I
think about the cash that some of the best players
in the NFL are getting. And Jon Robinson, who Raheem
Morris when he was coaching the Falcons last year, said
on multiplecasions is the best player in the entire NFL.
He is getting peanuts in comparison. And that's not a
reflection on him, that's the reality of the running back market.
(03:40):
And so I thought that both he and Jamier Gibbs
would be holding the line to try to change the
way running backs are paid.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Jean Robinson didn't. And now the.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Question is how aggressive will Jamiir Gibbs be in trying
to to not just outdo Jon Robinson by a little bit,
but by a lot. Because it's not about the position,
it's about what I mean to the team. And you
look at how the Lions have reconfigured their offense. They
got rid of David Montgomery. They're they're gonna make Jamior
(04:13):
Gibbs the workhorse. And you know, for guys Mike Robinson
and Gibbs, you got one chance to break the bank.
This is it twenty four years old, three years in
full tread on the tires.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Still, now's the time to get paid.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
So I wasn't surprised that Robinson did the deal, and
I guess I'm not shocked if the deal isn't better
than it could be.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But man, it's a bargain. You get a great running
back like that and you pay him pop.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
With the running back market, you're getting a great player
for a lot less than other great players cost.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah, Mike Florio with US Pro Footballtalk dot Com usually
with us on Wednesdays, but we got the Hall of
Fame game coming up obviously, so Micha will be a
little busy this week.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
You wrote about Aaron Donald at PFT today trying to
kind of increase his presence, grow his brand little bit.
How much of him coming back will be kind of
maybe driven by that idea to increase his Q rating
a bit if you will.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Well, he's been out of the public eye for two years.
Speaker 5 (05:12):
He worked the pregame show for Super Bowl sixty with NBC.
That was the first time we've seen him other than
just like workout videos on social media, but you know,
big platform stuff.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
He hasn't done much.
Speaker 5 (05:24):
So you come back and you play another year for
a team that's going to have seven primetime games, and
that is potentially going to be playing standalone games in
the postseason.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
It's a hell of a way to make your.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
Transition into whatever it is he's thinking about doing by
hiring the firm that he's hired to help grow his
profile away from football. So it all kind of fits
together now, and hey, to the extensive he wants to
get involved in media and entertainment.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
He's doing this thing the right way.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
He's creating a lot of drama, and he's teasing us,
and he's taking his time, and man, it just feels
inevitable that he's gonna come back. I just don't know
when and how much you'll play once he's back back
on the field.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I mean, if you had to put money on this,
you would say he is returning. It's just a matter
of when not if.
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Right, Well, he's doing everything he can't to get himself
in a football shape, and it reminds me the old
Jerry Seinfeld bit where he would talk about all these
people trying to get his shape, or are they getting
in shape for you know, most people are trying to
get any shape.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Are trying to get in shape for anything.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
He's trying to get in football shape, why so he
can say I'm in football shape or to play football.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
I think he's gonna come back.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And the only way he doesn't is if he is
able to objectively come to the conclusion that he's gonna
fall short of whatever standard he otherwise hopes to establish.
Speaker 7 (06:45):
And you're only gonna find that out if you get
out on the field. That all this other stuff isn't
going to tell him how it's gonna feel when he
goes against players who have been playing the last two years.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Whether in the NFL or in college. And it reminds
me when Lawrence Taylor retired, he went to.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Bill Parcells and he said, man, he's these guys are
these young guys are fast? And Parcels said to him, no, Lawrence,
you're slow. You're not the guy you used to be.
And and how can Aaron dn't even begin to come
to that conclusion until he is competing full speed against
the guys who have been playing the last two years.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
You wrote about mikeah Parsons too, I think on the
website about his injury, and uh, you know how good
he's going to be when he does come back. I mean,
I look, they gave up two first round draft picks
for him. You think the Packers are regretting doing that,
And how how effective do you think Mike cah Parsons
will be when.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
He does come back coming off the injury.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Anytime you give up significant assets for a pass rusher,
for any player really, but especially the guy who is
in that that fray where.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
All sorts of things can happen once the ball is snapped,
you give up the assets, you get a big contract.
Part of the risk you're assuming, and and you're assuming
that risk away from him. This is why the player
tries to get paid. I want the risk of injury
to be on the team, not on me. And so
the Packers took on the risk of injury. And now
they've got the draft picks riding on it, they've.
Speaker 4 (08:10):
Got the money riding on it.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
And the smart play is to not rush anything and
let him, let him get healthy. And he said before
this is about being healthy later in the year, not
to rush back for early season games. And he's talked
about maybe Week six against the Cowboys is the time
to come back.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
The only risks that you take.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
By waiting Once you start losing games in September and October,
your windows starts to get pretty narrow, and there may
not be playoffs.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
If you lose too many games before.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Michael Parsons is back on the field and back to
his usual workload.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
All right, great news, Mike. Last one for you.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Mike Florio with US Pro Footballtalk dot Com, usually on Wednesday,
I know, but here on a Tuesday before the Hall
of Fame game on Thursday in Canton, Carolina, Arizona. And
I thought this was a joke when I first saw it,
but apparently it's not. That the Rams are going to
fly into Australia the day before they're a game with
the Niners and fly out the day after. I mean,
(09:12):
does that sound like a good idea to you?
Speaker 4 (09:16):
Well, I mean there's different ways you can do these things,
and there's all.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
Sorts of advanced sports science, and you know, I guess
the idea is that the jet light doesn't matter if
you never change your clock, right, and you go there
and you go there on your terms, and you go
there on your clock, and you know.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
It's it's still going to be.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
What a night game East Coast time, late afternoon game
West coast time and you just stick to that. Maybe
that's their calculation for the minimal disruption on the team.
Get in, play the game, get out. We've seen, you know,
for a lot of the London games. We've seen teams
doing that in recent years. But they come up with
a plan, they believe in the plan, they stick to
(09:58):
the plan, and uh, you know, why go Why all
the time you go there ahead of time is valuable
time where you could be in your regular environment.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Working and being comfortable and being normal.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
You know, I love to delay as long as possible
any trip I have to make. I love to be
home as long as I can. So they got to
make the trip of the way. You may as well
keep it short. You can go to Australia on a
vacation after you retire.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, you're not putting your neck on the line though,
right literally physically when you step out of your to
your you know, a place of work when you land
in that city. Anyway, Mike, great stuff. Love having you on,
always love having you in some alone time. And we'll
talk in a week man later. Yeah, Mike Florio with us,
I'm doubting the pause. He stops for a quick second
(10:45):
to think of some smart ass response.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
If you can't, he just says goodbye. We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Steve Phillips, former GM, gonna join us to talk about
everything the MS have been up to. What about this
idea that all of a sudden, the world hates the Dodgers.
Steve Phillips joins the show talks some baseball. Next on
ninety three three kJ R FM
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