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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is the young disputed king Heavyweight Champagne baby of the
NFL Press Scorer. Our friend Mike Florio, how are you,
Pelle doing great? Buttholes, thank you for doing this. I
missed you last week. I appreciate you doing this every
single week.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
I knew it was a good week for a reason.
I couldn't remember why.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
It was a good week.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, because I had a great cover. I wasn't bugging
you last week is what it was. Yeah, well you
know what, welcome back to reality, pal and reality sucks.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Hey, how about how about all of you? You were
on vacation, Yes you were.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
You were on vacation. You're on some swanky vacation right.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yes, swanky? Yes, I was on a swanky vacation trip
with my wife. That's exactly what I was doing. I
said to my wife, what do you want to do?
She says, I don't care as long as it's swanky.
So we made it swanky and we took off. Hey,
lots of movement in the NFL. Let's first of all,
talk about the NFC West rival of the Seahawks getting
Trent and McDuffie today. What do you think is behind
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the Chiefs making that move? Why give up on the guy?
I saw mahomes reaction on Twitter. Why do you think
the Chiefs moved McDuffie to other rams today?
Speaker 5 (01:52):
Very simple? They didn't want to pay him what he
wanted to be paid.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, it's that simple.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
So if they're not going to pay him what he
wants to be paid, then you needed trade into a
team that will pay him what he wants to be paid.
It will value him at a number different than what
the Chiefs would put on it, and the Rams are willing.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
To do it.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
And it shows you what the Rams think of him,
because not only are they going to give him a
contract that he wants, and shame on them if they
don't already know what it's going to take to get
him signed and are willing to do it. You don't
want to just trade for a guy and then say later, oh,
oh he wants that, Oh never mind. But it's a
way for the Rams to address a guy, get a
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guy that they think will make them better, and the
Chiefs replenish and pick up some compensation that they can
use to fill.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
Some of their various holes.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They are rebuilding on the fly, and they have a
lot of deficiencies on that roster, so they see it
as a way to make themselves better elsewhere by giving
up a guy who was the first team All Pro
as a slot corner.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
How does the compensation compare potentially to what the Raiders
could get for Max Crosby. I know it's corner versus
pass rusher, but also McDuffie's younger.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Well, but it's two different positions, and pass rusher is
the second most position in football. Number one's quarterback and
number two is player who affects the quarterback directly and
potentially very physically. The Raiders want to first round picks
and a player. We reported that last week and that's
been reported by various others since then. But first round pick,
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it's a broad range, top ten, bottom ten. I think
there's a chance that maybe a team like the Buccaneers
gets involved, and they've got the fifteenth overall pick this year.
Could you get the Raiders to take a lower pick
in twenty twenty seven when you're giving.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Them the fifteenth overall pick this year? I think maybe
you could. And then the question.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Becomes, well, which player do they want and is it
a player that you're willing to part with. So once
the Raiders put a price on Max Crosby, that's a
big step toward doing the deal.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
You've crossed that bridge in your mind.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
Of no way in hell this guy's untouchable.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
He's clearly not untouchable. If he was, there wouldn't be
an asking price for him.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
So I think the best move they could make is
line up maybe three or four teams.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Yeah, come up with acceptable.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Terms as to each of them, and then let Nex
Crosby pick his next team based upon how much money
they're gonna pay.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Because even though you'll hear people say, oh, he's.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Got a very favorable contract, that's a drawing card to
trade for him, he's not gonna want to walk through
the door with anything button adjustment to his contract because
he's more than ten million behind the top of the
market right now.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Well, Mike Florio's with us on the radio program here
on ninety three three KJRFM. We're all sitting around waiting
to see what happens with k nine man Kenny Walker
free agency. One week from today will be will be
up and writing officially legal tampoing with that whatever the
hell that means is in what five days from now?
Speaker 2 (04:50):
But what's the what's the future?
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Agency starts right but they that's fine, But but but
the the day when players can start signing skipson.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
The contracts start getting signed on Wednesday.
Speaker 4 (05:04):
But do not do not fool yourself, of course in
your calendar as Monday at noon Eastern that's when we'll
hear about deals that are done. And that's when the
super Bowl MVP from Super Bowl sixty can become the
latest guy in a very small club. Desmond Howard, Larry Brown,
and Dexter Jackson super Bowl MVPs who went straight to
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free agency and cashed him with another team.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
Kenneth Walker, the third.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Will become the fourth guy in that chain, unless he
stays with the Seahawks. Sometimes what happens is the guy
gets a chance to see what's out there and he says,
I'll just take the best offer to stay where I was.
Although I think if that was gonna happen, it already
would have happened.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
I was gonna say, what's your gut tell you man
on this kid.
Speaker 4 (05:46):
I think he's gonna go. I think he's gonna leave. Yeah,
I think he's gonna leave, or he'd already be there.
Speaker 6 (05:52):
Mike Arizona's given up on Kyler Murray. Where's a good
landing spot for him?
Speaker 4 (05:57):
Well back during the twenty five season, as the trade
deadline was approaching, I was trying to cast a net
to see whether there's any guys out there that would maybe.
Speaker 5 (06:06):
Be a surprise.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
I thought things are kind of awkward between Murray and Arizona.
Is it possible that that Murray I got a cop coming.
They're not pulling me over, Thank god. Is it possible
that the Cardinals would trade Murray? And I learned two things.
Number One, there were far too many moving parts in
the equation for a trade to happen, because you have
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to deal with his contract, etc.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
But on top of that, I learned at the time.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
That the cart that Murray would be interested in playing
for the Raiders or the Vikings, and the drawing card
with the Raiders was Chip Kelly's the offensive coordinator. Well
that's over now because he was fired, but the Vikings
are still in play. I'd look at the Vikings. I
would look at the Falcons if Matt Ryan, the six
foot five inch president of the football operations, is okay with
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a sub six foot quarterback, because you never know, some
people are like, no way in hell, we don't want
a short quarterback around here, and Matt Ryan.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Could be thinking that way.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
Yeah, and then one team to watch close to home,
relatively speaking, I heard some chatter yesterday that Matthew Stafford
called up Murray and tried to talk him into being
his backup for a year. Now, I think if I'm
Kyler Murray I want to play. I don't want to
be anyone's back up. But you know, Matthew Stafford's older
and we had that back issue last year. You never
know what a back issue is gonna pop up again.
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So that would be a sneaky under the radar team
to keep an one. Because Cliff Kingsbury is former head
coach with the Cardinals, is on the staff with the Rams.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Now, well, Mike Florio's with us, and we heard the
sirens there. Thank god, you're okay.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You ever been pulled over by the way and the
cop realizes who you are let you go?
Speaker 2 (07:40):
No?
Speaker 4 (07:40):
No, I have not been pulled over since I became
someone anyone would.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
Possibly recognize that. I got drive very much. I got
this car. I'm driving this car right now. I went
to get my haircut. I've had the car. It'll be
five years in August. It's got less than fifteen thousand miles.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Wow, you always talking about you got a driver, good
for you must be nice.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
But how about rash.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Talk about it?
Speaker 2 (08:04):
What do I always talk about?
Speaker 4 (08:06):
One time on your show, you know what, I was
driving home from Indianapolis and you're like, oh, be careful
while you're driving It's like, Bro, you really think I'm
driving myself home from Indianapolis.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I'm going back to Maui. Man, this is unfair.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I don't I don't deserve this kind of just getting
beat up on the air, like absolutely do like this.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Hey, how about how.
Speaker 5 (08:24):
About stay in a hut on the beach? I didn't
dig a cast sand.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We've already established it with Swanky.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Did you already forget that part of the conversation? How
about Rashid Shihaed.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I'm looking at one NFL free agent list and like
three of the top eleven guys are Seahawks, and Rashid
she Heat is.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
One of them.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
But this is a guy that did more damage as
a return guy that he did as a pass catcher
in Seattle. So how do the Seahawks and the rest
of the NFL kind of value this guy?
Speaker 4 (08:51):
You think, tough guy to put a value on, because
you're making a projection as to what he could do
as a receiver full time.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
And you know, once he became a guy that the Saints.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
Thought would be a very good receiver, he stopped returning
kicks and he kind.
Speaker 5 (09:07):
Of reminds me a little bit. I mentioned Desmond Howard.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
He parlayd Super Bowl thirty one MVP award into a
contract with the Raiders for his return skills.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
And if you're Rashi Shaheed, I think that your.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Value is twofold and you need to go to a
team that is willing to use you in both capacities
and pay you to do both things. But some teams
get very nervous about exposed a player to special teams.
So that's where it's going to get potentially interesting and will.
But the Seahawks made that trade, and it could be
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that they end up not having Rashi Shahead all that
long if they're not able to work out a deal.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
But you know the argument for not using the franchise
tag on Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
The third was we want to try to keep Rashid
Shaheat around Mike.
Speaker 6 (09:52):
What's the backstory behind Drew Dolman retiring? I mean, is
a Pro Bowl caliber offensive lineman at age twenty seven.
Did anyone see this coming?
Speaker 5 (10:01):
No? Nobody saw it coming.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
He had four years with the Falcons and he signed
last year with the Bears, that three year, forty two
million dollars deal.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
He had six million to sign. Technically, the Bears can
ask for four million of it back, and.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
Under the CBA they'll be entitled to because at six
million is based on two million a year for each
of the three years of the contract.
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Last night, it kind of occurred to me.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Based upon the timeline of the whole thing, that this
is all happening posts scouting combine, when all the agents
and all the players were meeting and talking and the
salary cap goes into effect next week and team's gonna
be spending money. Is Dolman trying to leverage his Pro
Bowl season, during which he took every regular season snap
with the Bears? Is he trying to get a raise
over the fourteen million a year because he's four million
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behind the market and the market's going to reset With
Tyler Linderbaum of the Ravens.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
I'm told that's not the case. He's just done.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And I'm a firm believer when you're done playing professional
football you should stop.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
You should not keep playing.
Speaker 4 (10:57):
It takes everything you have mentally and physically. It's a
seven month of the year commitment, and then some if
you do not want to do it, you should not
do it. So I respect anyone who decides the time
has come to move.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
On Mike Florio, Unfortunately, our time has come to move on.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
We'll talk in a week. You're the best. Miss upset that.
I am upset about it. I'd have you on for
an hour. I can't afford it. We'd have to fire
the entire company.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You can you can barely afford to have me on
for ten minutes. And we're gonna need to have a
conversation about that. When I was in Indianapolis, I did
a little market research. It may be time to have
another conversation. My agent will call you. My agent will
call you. My agent is me.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I am assigning Dick to have that conversation. It's now
the conversation. You two have that conversation. All right, Mike,
you're the best, great stuff. We'll talk in a week. Thanks,
see you all right, Mike Florio with us on the
radio show. We're gonna break a lot more to get to,
including petros at four coming up ninety three three k
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