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May 7, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about his language on the radio show, George Pickens being traded to the Cowboys today, the Steelers fallout with the deal, many players being left to sign, and the NFL Draft locations coming soon.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
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(00:21):
here's Softie and Dick.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
He's a genuine butthole.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
All right, boys and girls, we are back on a
busy Wednesday afternoon. I always enjoy these segments. I know
you do as well, Hugh talking to the king of
all NFL than you, the undisputed heavyweight champagne of the
NFL Press Corps, Pro Football Talk dot Com, the NFL,
and NBC, And I just wonder if he enjoys talking

(00:45):
to us as much as we enjoy talking to him.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Our friend, Mike Florio, how are you, pal?

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
I want to know how far along my plan has
advanced to sell jerseys via simply Seattle to have butthole
shaped holes right under the neck.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
I think there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Market untapped for shirts with holes in the neck at
the new trend to take off, especially if it is
butthole sized and or butthole shape.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
See, I thought we discussed this that we were going
to get a seahawk jersey or maybe in your case
because you kind of grew up a Pittsburgh fan of
Steeler jersey with the number forty one one yards and
the name and the name butthole.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But I'm the back and that was gonna be our
gifts to you.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
I don't care the keller, I don't care the logo,
I don't care the name.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
And the number. I just want the hole right under
the neck.

Speaker 5 (01:34):
By the way, even though I grew up in Pittsburgh area,
I was not a Steelers fan, which made for a
very long and arduous childhood. As the Steelers one not one,
not two, not three, but four, Yeah, super Bowls.

Speaker 6 (01:46):
Like I got to ask because you're as articulate. It
pisses me off because you're way more articulate than me.
You got a lot agree you're you're you layer your arguments.
I mean, I just you're this beautiful intellect. Is this
like some crazy like alter ego, Like you got to
just exercise something like like Halloween party dress up as

(02:08):
a devil, like the butt whole thing. I'm very amused
by this coming out of your mouth. For the reasons
I stated.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Well, playing saftey yeah, product with Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
All right, you're just adapting to the surroundings. I got
it six days.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Twenty three hours and fifty minutes of my week. It's
just this ten minute stretch that brings out the absolute
worst than me.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
He's a chameleon.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
He just adapts to his surroundings, and every week at
six' Ten eastern, time he turns into a big pile
of dung when he comes on this radio. Show but
speaking Of, Steelers Mike, Uh George pickens is now a.
Cowboy we had thought that maybe the idea OF dk
And pickens and Even Aaron rodgers would be too toxic

(02:52):
to combine everybody into one pot In, Pittsburgh and Now
George pickens is.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Gone your thoughts on that trade to The. Cowboys the moment.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
The steelers traded FOR, dk Metcalf i Said pickens is
going to be. Traded the handwriting was already on the
wall in permanent. Marker there were plenty of things you
could point to to suggest this wasn't gonna. Work guys
entering his contract, Year steelers now adding a new number one.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Receiver who Supplants George.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Pickens so they're not going to Pay, pickens not after
giving thirty million per year on a five year deal
TO Dk metcalf and withings chasing a contract. Elsewhere he's
not going to get the targets.

Speaker 4 (03:33):
That he needs to be as valuable.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
As he'd be perceived as a free agent because they've
got a four seed the ball TO Dk metcalf to
justify the contract they've given. Him so from the moment
that deal was, DONE i said on our SHOW Pfd,
live look metcalf, In pickens is going to be. Out
i'm surprised it took as long as it. DID i
think The steelers should have done everything they could to
Trade pickens before the. Draft can get twenty twenty five

(03:58):
draft pick compensation now or not they would have gotten
a third rounder remains to be. Seen and they have
been a fourth round of this. Year it's loosely. EQUIVALENT
a fourth round of this year is like a third
round of next, year but still.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
Get help, now not next year For George.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Pickens they seem to be doing everything they can this
year to try to get to the playoffs and win
a postseason game for the first time since the twenty sixteen.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Season one more On pickens for, Me, Mike i'm intrigued
by kind of the dynamics down there In. Dallas we
Have Jerry jones who has said that his biggest regret
personnel regret was not Drafting Randy moss BECAUSE i think
he had smoked some hoots or something before the draft
and it just killed him to watch What Randy moss.

(04:43):
Did and SO i don't know if that relates to
the willingness to take On pickens and maybe his, baggage
but perhaps it. Does but then the other piece of that,
IS i don't know About, schottenheimer whether or not he
has the chops to be able handle some of the
things that might develop if some of these receivers aren't
getting the. Ball just kind of what's your take about

(05:04):
how the personalities are going to mix down?

Speaker 5 (05:06):
There that was my first thought as. Well we had
Former cowboys Coach Jason garrett on the show this. Morning
we reached out to him after the news. Broken kudo
to The cowboys for getting it out, there just as
a full day of radio AND tv was. Going that's
how you do, it.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Folks if you want to co.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
Opt the, coverage you drop it just in time for
all the morning shows to go. Live Jason garrett made
a great. Point it comes down To Dak. Prescott he's
going to be the guy at the heart of the
relationship With George, pickens and it's going to be up
To prescott to create the right atmosphere and environment For
pickens to, understand to buy, in to accept that the

(05:44):
ball isn't going to come his way all the, time
to understand there will be moments when it makes sense
to throw the go ball to him when he's single
covered Because.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Ceedee lamb is double. Covered But prescott is the.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
Key when you look at what The steelers have had
or haven't had a. Quarterbacks pickens entered the league as
the third round pick in twenty or second round, pick excuse,
me in twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
Two it's all post For Office.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Berger they haven't had a good quarterback and they haven't
had a good. Offense the moment that it became abundantly
clear That pickens wouldn't be back before The metcalf right
was when they Asked, pickens that's the playoff loss to The,
ravens the optimisity about the, offense and he, said, nah
so this ten was done because they can't fix the
quarterback situation and the only hope Was Aaron. Rodgers but

(06:28):
still Met Captain pickens With metcalf being the guy that's
going to get the focus of the, offense it just wasn't.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
Going to, work AND i think it was a no.

Speaker 5 (06:37):
Brainer now it's up To Dak prescott to try to
Get pickens in the right spot where he can be
helpful to The, cowboys helpful to himself and it can
be a win, win and maybe The cowboys sign him
to a new contract at some point before he becomes a.

Speaker 4 (06:49):
Creator.

Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah SO i don't want to make this Off steeler.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
Talk but the natural follow up, is now that The
pickens thing is, done is The Aaron rodgers signing the next,
drop the next two to.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
DROP i was.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
Told before the drafts That rogers Of pittsburgh will. Happen
the only question is. Win and then during the draft
and this was obscured by all the Short Shadoor sanders,
stuff the free, fall the prank, call and then the
twist of The Bill belichick. Craziness Arn't rooney The second
said on Radio Friday night Of Aaron, rodgers he does

(07:23):
want to be, here it is just a matter of.
TIME i think at this point it makes sense for
him to wait until the schedule is, locked because look
at what the schedule makers.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Did last, year did The jets And Aaron.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Rodgers they had a bunch of short, weeks prime, time
irregular schedule games which aren't conducive.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
To entering into a kind of a rhythm necessary to
win and win and. Win so wait.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Until the schedule is locked and loaded announced it, Then
AND i THINK.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
I Know Alan lazard is in play to be traded
to The.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Steelers he cut his salary from eleven million down to
two and a half to stay with The. Jets that's
a very tradable deal to The, steelers And Alan lazard
is a very different player with and Without Aaron.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Rodgers as his.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Quarterback and The stealers have a need now to Replace
George dickens Production.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Mike lauria with.

Speaker 6 (08:08):
Us, mike, obviously when you come, on we've got our
questions jotted, down but occurred to, Me i'd rather just
kind of let you lead you what what else is
top of mind for you across THE nfl landscape in
terms of something we should be talking.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
About, well right, now you've got some unsigned players out
there free. Agents the question is will they sign before,
OTAs will they wait until training? Camp what happens With
Kirk cousins In atlanta that's. Percolating there's a lot of
just kind of slightly below the surface stories that we've

(08:45):
maybe overlooked because the post draft conversation has been so
much About Shador sanders and The Bill belichick. Craziness But
cousins is.

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Looming Amari cooper's, Available Keenan allen's, Available Gape davis is now.
Available Nick schubb is looking for an.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Home there's still a lot of recognizable names out there
that will or won't jump on to a, team either
during the off season program or during training.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
Camp and some of these GUYS i think are just.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Going to remain free into the regular season then wait
for a phone call in the event there's an. Injury
and that that's the one reality that occurs to me
every year in the off, season we spend months dissecting who's, better.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Who's, worse who's, improved who. Hasn't the great wild card.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Of the injuries that we know will have and we
don't know to, whom we don't know, when we don't
know how long they're. Missed but those key injuries that
are impossible to predict will change our entire view of
how entire.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
Franchises will fare in a given.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Season, Well, MIKE i got a question for. You THE nfl.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
Draft the, PRESIDENT i think since you AND i spoke
last announced that it's going to be IN dc in
twenty twenty. Seven we're gonna have a million. People they're
a big old. Party pittsburgh's getting asterisks on that.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Million what's that put an asterisk on that? MILLION nfl
is a bad ha habit of double and triple counting
fan to, attend and also people who come and, go
like On, saturday to go to the.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Bathroom or go to a restaurant or go to their.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
Car they get counted multiple times every time they pass the,
perimeter and they act like it's six hundred thousand unique
different fans right three.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
DAYS i just wish they'd be, transparent but they don't need.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
To they don't need to lie about the.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Number it's a lot of, people it's a lot of
need to pump it.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Up into something more than it. Is that's just my
latest Pet.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Okay, yeah AND i get. It pet peeves are. Good
it keeps people.

Speaker 3 (10:28):
Responsible but if The draft is In pittsburgh next, YEAR
dc the year after, That buffalo has been, Rumored denver's.
BEEN i, mean that's a great idea by THE nfl
guys to do. This because the weather for the most
part across the country is damn good Late. April you're
not running into any real weather related. Issues but how
does this process, work like our city's sports commissions and

(10:51):
teams with them bidding on the rights to The, draft
Because i'd like to see it here In seattle one.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
Day, well THE nfl realized seven or eight years ago
that having an.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Open bidding process for The Super bowl.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
Was counterproductive because what happened was and an effort to
get the best possible. Deal in any Given Super, bowl
you would have several cities spend a lot of time
and effort to put a bid, together knowing that they
were wasting their time and just pumping up the value
of the final. Bid THE nfl has pivoted to a more,
selective discrete where they go to a city and they

(11:24):
just say and they're big enough now that THE nfl
can say these are our, terms take them or leave,
them and if they leave, them they'll go to.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
The next city on the. List so it's all done
very quietly.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
Now teams will say we're, interested and they'll put in for.
It but every time you hear that a team is
putting in for, IT i think that wheels are already
moving toward them getting. It And baltimore is the LATEST.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
I saw that.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Today haven't written about it yet AT, pft but The
ravens are exploring putting something.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
TOGETHER i think there's a lot.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Of behind the scenes nudging and coaxing and coordinating to
tee up these, cities and in all, fairness everybody who
wants it should get. It every city is capable of hosting,
it and it's a unique, experience and it's going to
be a lot of people in every city where it goes.
In THE nfl is going to, double triple and quadruple
count the, number so it ends up looking like a

(12:15):
much bigger deal than it, wants no.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Doubt all, right, man great, Stuff enjoy it and we'll
talk in a week. Pal thank, you big, guys all,
Right thanks.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Much Mike florio with us every Single wednesday here on
the radio. Show we'll get a Break Hugh, Millan Jackson, Felts,
Dave Sophie maler that's my name when The A's mariners game. Ends,
well yack about. That we got a lot to get
to on a Busy. Wednesday petro's coming, Up Larry stone coming.
Up great day to have him on a five courtesy
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