February 11, 2026 • 13 mins
Mike Florio of PFT and NBC joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Seattle blowing out New England in the Super Bowl, Sam Darnold’s performance and narrative shifting career, what comes next for the Seahawks now, and Kenneth Walker III’s future.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:21):
right here's Softie and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I got two.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Words for you, Mike Florio, Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the
NFL and NBC PFT Live. Last time we saw this guy,
we were lucky enough, honored, blessed to get to see
him in person and share the same room with him
at the same broadcast table in San Francisco. Our friend
Mike Florio joined us right now on the radio show, Michael,
(00:46):
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Gentlemen, gentlemen, Congratulations to everyone in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah who was partial of Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm sure there are some non Seahawks fans locally who
are miserable right now and probably not listening to radio
or consuming any media. But to all the Seahawks fantasy
had all the.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Twelve yeah, twelve years later. It's perfect every twelve years,
although I'm sure they want it more often than that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, no doubt. Well, let's just go back to Sunday
and talk about what you saw. What we saw was
a dominant defense the nation. A lot of people apparently
saw a boring football game. What'd you see Sunday?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's two straight years that we had a blowout in
the Super Bowls, but this one felt like a super
Bowl from the seventies where there was like two different
classes of teams where there was no chance for the
team that lost to win. Sometimes we'll have a super Bowl.
I'll use last year as an example, fifty nine Eagles Chiefs.
If they played that game ten times, maybe Chiefs win three.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I feel like if they had played Seahawks Patriots ten times,
the Patriots don't win any It just felt like it
felt like FCS and FBS, whichever one's higher, FBS versus FCS.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It just felt like a mismatch.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I don't know how much of it was the
Drake May shoulder injury that they covered up as best
they could. Drake May said last Monday night that he's
not gonna lie. I'm not trying to lie. I feel great. Well,
why do you get a pain killing injection in his shoulder?
Good luck throwing a football accurately when you've taken a
tour it all shot in your shoulder.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I think that was a factor. But the Seahawks
just weren't going to be denied. They were ready to
go and they did it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And really, I think if they played that that game
ten different times, the Patriots don't win.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Once.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
You wrote about Mike McDonald's saying that the Patriots had
to use a silent count, and I remember that was
the same situation with the Bronc Goes the last time
the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. I mean, this is
that a normal thing or is this kind of unique
to the twelves in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I remember we were in New York City as the
Super Bowl approached twelve years ago, in Manhattan Friday night,
and we went out to dinner and the fans were
starting to show up, and I thought, holy crap, Seahawks
are going to win this game.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
This place is being overrun with Seahawks fans.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And it makes a difference if you can create a
true home field advantage at a neutral site.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Game and forced a team to go silent count.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It gives the pass rushing advantage, It takes away from
the offensive line that split second it comes from being able.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
To get off on the.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Verbal snap, and it makes a difference. Now, I don't
know that it would have mattered if the Patriots didn't
have to use a snaptown or silent count, excuse me.
But at the same time, I think that was one
of the reasons why it just was just two different levels,
two different categories, two different classes of team.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
On the field on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Sam Darnold Mike now is thirty one and seven
overall in his last thirty eight games if you include
the playoffs. Okay, I had the fourth lowest passer rating
in the history of the Super Bowl by a winning quarterback.
And there's obviously context to passer rating, get that, But
where does this championship now in your mind, put Sam
(04:05):
Darnold on the pecking order of quarterbacks in the National
Football League.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, I have the misfortune of being cursed with
becoming a Viking fam when I was eight years old,
and I've tried to shed that curse, that virus that
scourge from time to time. But it's like family. Good
luck disowning family when it becomes part of what you are,
part of your enjoyment of games. And a friend of
(04:32):
mine who's from Pittsburgh, who I used to work with
when I.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Lived up there, he emailed me today and said.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
How do you feel about the fact that Sam Donald
won a Super Bowl? My response to him was, how
do you feel about the fact that your team signed
Aaron Rodgers and not Sam Donold Right, there isn't just
one team that missed the boat here. The Raiders didn't
want him, Tom Brady didn't want him, the Steelers didn't
want him. The Colts could have signed him instead of
Daniel Jones multiple different teams. Now the Jets were looking
(05:00):
for a quarterback. That would have been a hell of
a story if the Jets had tried to bring back
Sam Donald. But when you look at the number of
suitors at the end of the day, that was one.
At the end of the day, he got a three year,
one hundred point five million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Thirty three and a half million per year.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We were talking last year once we got the contract
that the Seahawks had an escape patch after one year.
If it had been a disaster, they would have cut
him this week. Because he has money, it becomes fully
guaranteed later this week.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He would have been gone if it had been a
complete and total debacle, and nobody really knew. So the
Seahawks rolled the dice.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I don't think if he goes to any of
those other teams, he's getting his fingerprints.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
On the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He landed in the right spot at the right time,
with the right teammates, the right vibe. Everything lined up perfectly,
and that got them to the Super Bowl. Here's the
real mind bender. Would they have won the Super Bowl
Geno Smith at Stay.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think there's a chance they would have. I'm not
trying to take it any away from Sam Donald. I'm
just saying that the rest of the team was good enough.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Telling Kubiak got the job a year ago is offensive coordinator.
He said the president of Gina Smith was a big draw,
and then they traded into the team where Kubiak just
was introduced as the head coach. Yesterday, he didn't say
he didn't say that again, but he did say it
last year right before Gino was traded.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The only his years traders. He wanted more money and
they wanted to pay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
This was a masterful job by John Schneider who has
now built two separate Super Bowl winners and maybe closing
in on eventually ended up with a bronze bust in Kent.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, just real quick. And I think Dick agrees. I
don't think the Seahawks win those two high scoring Ram
games with Gino Smith at quarterback. And if they don't
win those games, they're not the number one seed.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, and they don't win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
But I say you're right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The Thursday night game, that was the key, That was
the narrative changer for Sam donold back in hindsight, and
we knew at the time that we were witnessing a
special game with all the crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Things that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And at the end of the day, that game, if
any of the two hundred and seventy two regular season
games did it, that game determined the Super Bowl champion.
Not that it would have been the Rams if the
Rams had won, but if the Rams had won, good
chance it's not the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Is there a chance they just rip up Sam's deal
and just start over, because this caphit goes from thirteen
to thirty eight million dollars this year. I mean, is
there a chance they just want to stretch it out now?
Starting now?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
If I'm Sam Donald's agent, I'm calling John Schneider today.
I called him if I'm his agent after the confetti
fell on Sunday night. Let's do right by this guy.
You guys got a bargain, Let's make it right. Top
of the market sixty, he's at thirty three and a half.
And because you got thirty seven and a half this
year last year, the cash flow this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Year, I think it's twenty seven to five. And I
know that we have to look at the whole deal,
but yeah, I think they need to fix it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And then next year the cap hit I think goes
north to forty. And that's what through the wrench in
the gears between the Seahawks and Gino Smith, they did
the same idea three year deal around one hundred million dollars.
They got the last year the cap number was high.
He had the leverage to say, hey, fine, you know,
unless you give me a deal I want, you got
to deal with this big cap number.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
So they traded him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So we're a year late from that, and I think
the smart move would be to rip this up and sign.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Into a long term deal. Now, maybe Schneider's not going
to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We got to see if the next offensive coordinator can
work the same magic that Clint Kubiak did. How much
of its Kubiak, how much of it's Dner.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think Donald is a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But there's no guaranteed this is going to be replicated
when they feel that spot that Kubiak vacated, which is
obviously a big deal. When you've got a head coach
who is a defensive guy and your offensive coordinator gets
the head coaching job elsewhere, you're not going to have
offensive continuity. And I saw today that they're interviewing four
of the guys on the staff. The best way to
get continuity is to promote from within. But what did
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that do for the lines last year?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, well, Mike Florio's with us. Mike, what about Kenny Walker?
I mean, the last six games he's been putting up
McCaffrey like numbers. I realized he wasn't doing it over
seventeen games, But in the last six weeks, this guy's
been on fire. And now he's a free agent and
he might be the second most coveted running back in
free agency, if not the most coveted running back in
(08:59):
free agency. What do you think the market will bear?
How much of a bidding war will the Seahawks have
to get into for Kenny Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, the good news is the Raiders already have Ashton Jenny,
so they don't have to worry about Quint Kubiak and
John Spypeck and Tom Brady getting into the bidding. But
the running back position has been and continues to be
devalued by the simple fact that the supply of capable
running backs outweighs the demand.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And also it's a position that has a very high
risk of injury.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So if you make the significant investment in one player,
there's a chance that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That guy gets hurt and that money isn't helping you
win football games. And you could.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Argue, we'll find someone in the draft in round two,
three or four who can come in.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know, it dawned on me back in the early
part of the first.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Decade of the century. I used to go to all
the West Virginia games. It's like, you know, we have
a guy every year that could play in the NFL
at running back and thrive and if you block for him,
if he can be he trusted the hold onto the
football when NFL caliber defenders are ripping it away, and
if you can trust in pass protection to pick up blitzes,
you got a guy that can play.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
In the NFL. There are too many guys, too many
great running backs. It's a tough position.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's demanding that there are too many guys who can
do it, and that creates this temptation. Hey, let's go
back twenty years Sean Alexander MVP season.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What do they do?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They give him a huge contract a year later, they
couldn't wait to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So that's the risk. That's the balance.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And unless they use the franchise tag, which is the possibility,
it's not something that is completely off the table. I
would say, Okay, at least consider it. It frees everything
in place for a year and it gives him a
significant chunk of money for one season. But unless they
use the franchise tag, he's gonna be able to go
wherever he wants to go. And all it takes is
one team that sees what he did and decides two things.
(10:48):
Number One, I want this guy to play for me.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
In number two. I want to try to chip away
at the Super Bowl champion. That used to be.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
More prevalent, Like we used to see more of an
aggressive effort by other teams to raid a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I remember when the Cowboys were great thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Years ago, it seemed like there was a concerted effort
to get there guys away. We haven't seen that more recently,
Like the Chief, when Chris Jones was going to be
a free agent, we didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So I don't know, but he's in line to get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
The challenge is coming up with the right number, and
will another team out.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Did the Seahawks?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And would he take less to stick around in Seattle
to continue to be part of something that's going pretty
well right now?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Who's the next OC in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Somebody from within, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yea, you know that that's a Mike McDonald call and
the John Schneider call. That's going to be driven by,
I believe, making sure you do everything you can to
keep the.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Offense as similar as it was. This can't be an
ego driven situation where the new.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
OC is like, well, you know, I'm going to keep
some of the concepts, but I'm going to do.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It my way. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You have to try to You have to try to
keep things rolling in the direction that they've been rolling.
And it needs to be an organizational thing.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So we'll find out it's significant.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's a significant thing. It's a good problem to have.
That is I always say, the only good problem to
have is no problem.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, Mike, before you got two words for you, greatest
moment on radio row for us was getting to see
you and visit with you in pros.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Highlight of the week.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Up, highlight of the We said that thirty times this
week I'm or I'm the only guests you had.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Maybe that's maybe everybody else said.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, we only said it twenty five times, not thirty.
Stop exaggerating, all right, Mike, you're the man.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It was just last week.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, it was like a month ago.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
When you were doing the.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Intro, I'm thinking, well, why did Why wasn't I all
with him?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Last week? Why? Why was it Why has it been
two weeks? Since it's only been one week.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, it feels like a month ago. We and
all of us are exhausted, but it's a good it's
a good exhausted. Mike, you're the man.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh, it's a better exhaustion than the feeling in Boston.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That's for Dan, Oh, you know what, I love it.
And for those Patriot fans. By the way, you got
two words for you. Oh, non, Mike, we'll talking away
and see you buddy. But all right, Mike Florio with us.
We're gonna come back and hear from Leonard Williams and
more from that guy Ernest Jones next on ninety three
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(00:21):
right here's Softie and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Let's get to it.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
I got two.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Words for you, Mike Florio, Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the
NFL and NBC PFT Live. Last time we saw this guy,
we were lucky enough, honored, blessed to get to see
him in person and share the same room with him
at the same broadcast table in San Francisco. Our friend
Mike Florio joined us right now on the radio show, Michael,
(00:46):
how are you.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Gentlemen, gentlemen, Congratulations to everyone in Seattle.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Yeah who was partial of Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
I'm sure there are some non Seahawks fans locally who
are miserable right now and probably not listening to radio
or consuming any media. But to all the Seahawks fantasy
had all the.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Twelve yeah, twelve years later. It's perfect every twelve years,
although I'm sure they want it more often than that.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Yeah, no doubt. Well, let's just go back to Sunday
and talk about what you saw. What we saw was
a dominant defense the nation. A lot of people apparently
saw a boring football game. What'd you see Sunday?
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's two straight years that we had a blowout in
the Super Bowls, but this one felt like a super
Bowl from the seventies where there was like two different
classes of teams where there was no chance for the
team that lost to win. Sometimes we'll have a super Bowl.
I'll use last year as an example, fifty nine Eagles Chiefs.
If they played that game ten times, maybe Chiefs win three.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I feel like if they had played Seahawks Patriots ten times,
the Patriots don't win any It just felt like it
felt like FCS and FBS, whichever one's higher, FBS versus FCS.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
It just felt like a mismatch.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
And I don't know how much of it was the
Drake May shoulder injury that they covered up as best
they could. Drake May said last Monday night that he's
not gonna lie. I'm not trying to lie. I feel great. Well,
why do you get a pain killing injection in his shoulder?
Good luck throwing a football accurately when you've taken a
tour it all shot in your shoulder.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
So I think that was a factor. But the Seahawks
just weren't going to be denied. They were ready to
go and they did it.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
And really, I think if they played that that game
ten different times, the Patriots don't win.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Once.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
You wrote about Mike McDonald's saying that the Patriots had
to use a silent count, and I remember that was
the same situation with the Bronc Goes the last time
the Seahawks won the Super Bowl. I mean, this is
that a normal thing or is this kind of unique
to the twelves in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I remember we were in New York City as the
Super Bowl approached twelve years ago, in Manhattan Friday night,
and we went out to dinner and the fans were
starting to show up, and I thought, holy crap, Seahawks
are going to win this game.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
This place is being overrun with Seahawks fans.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
And it makes a difference if you can create a
true home field advantage at a neutral site.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Game and forced a team to go silent count.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
It gives the pass rushing advantage, It takes away from
the offensive line that split second it comes from being able.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
To get off on the.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Verbal snap, and it makes a difference. Now, I don't
know that it would have mattered if the Patriots didn't
have to use a snaptown or silent count, excuse me.
But at the same time, I think that was one
of the reasons why it just was just two different levels,
two different categories, two different classes of team.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
On the field on Sunday night.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Sam Darnold Mike now is thirty one and seven
overall in his last thirty eight games if you include
the playoffs. Okay, I had the fourth lowest passer rating
in the history of the Super Bowl by a winning quarterback.
And there's obviously context to passer rating, get that, But
where does this championship now in your mind, put Sam
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Darnold on the pecking order of quarterbacks in the National
Football League.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
You know, I have the misfortune of being cursed with
becoming a Viking fam when I was eight years old,
and I've tried to shed that curse, that virus that
scourge from time to time. But it's like family. Good
luck disowning family when it becomes part of what you are,
part of your enjoyment of games. And a friend of
(04:32):
mine who's from Pittsburgh, who I used to work with
when I.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Lived up there, he emailed me today and said.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
How do you feel about the fact that Sam Donald
won a Super Bowl? My response to him was, how
do you feel about the fact that your team signed
Aaron Rodgers and not Sam Donold Right, there isn't just
one team that missed the boat here. The Raiders didn't
want him, Tom Brady didn't want him, the Steelers didn't
want him. The Colts could have signed him instead of
Daniel Jones multiple different teams. Now the Jets were looking
(05:00):
for a quarterback. That would have been a hell of
a story if the Jets had tried to bring back
Sam Donald. But when you look at the number of
suitors at the end of the day, that was one.
At the end of the day, he got a three year,
one hundred point five million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Thirty three and a half million per year.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
We were talking last year once we got the contract
that the Seahawks had an escape patch after one year.
If it had been a disaster, they would have cut
him this week. Because he has money, it becomes fully
guaranteed later this week.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
He would have been gone if it had been a
complete and total debacle, and nobody really knew. So the
Seahawks rolled the dice.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
And I don't think if he goes to any of
those other teams, he's getting his fingerprints.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
On the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
He landed in the right spot at the right time,
with the right teammates, the right vibe. Everything lined up perfectly,
and that got them to the Super Bowl. Here's the
real mind bender. Would they have won the Super Bowl
Geno Smith at Stay.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
I think there's a chance they would have. I'm not
trying to take it any away from Sam Donald. I'm
just saying that the rest of the team was good enough.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Telling Kubiak got the job a year ago is offensive coordinator.
He said the president of Gina Smith was a big draw,
and then they traded into the team where Kubiak just
was introduced as the head coach. Yesterday, he didn't say
he didn't say that again, but he did say it
last year right before Gino was traded.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The only his years traders. He wanted more money and
they wanted to pay.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
This was a masterful job by John Schneider who has
now built two separate Super Bowl winners and maybe closing
in on eventually ended up with a bronze bust in Kent.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, just real quick. And I think Dick agrees. I
don't think the Seahawks win those two high scoring Ram
games with Gino Smith at quarterback. And if they don't
win those games, they're not the number one seed.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Yeah, and they don't win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
But I say you're right.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
The Thursday night game, that was the key, That was
the narrative changer for Sam donold back in hindsight, and
we knew at the time that we were witnessing a
special game with all the crazy.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Things that happened.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And at the end of the day, that game, if
any of the two hundred and seventy two regular season
games did it, that game determined the Super Bowl champion.
Not that it would have been the Rams if the
Rams had won, but if the Rams had won, good
chance it's not the Seahawks.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Is there a chance they just rip up Sam's deal
and just start over, because this caphit goes from thirteen
to thirty eight million dollars this year. I mean, is
there a chance they just want to stretch it out now?
Starting now?
Speaker 3 (07:13):
If I'm Sam Donald's agent, I'm calling John Schneider today.
I called him if I'm his agent after the confetti
fell on Sunday night. Let's do right by this guy.
You guys got a bargain, Let's make it right. Top
of the market sixty, he's at thirty three and a half.
And because you got thirty seven and a half this
year last year, the cash flow this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Year, I think it's twenty seven to five. And I
know that we have to look at the whole deal,
but yeah, I think they need to fix it.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
And then next year the cap hit I think goes
north to forty. And that's what through the wrench in
the gears between the Seahawks and Gino Smith, they did
the same idea three year deal around one hundred million dollars.
They got the last year the cap number was high.
He had the leverage to say, hey, fine, you know,
unless you give me a deal I want, you got
to deal with this big cap number.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
So they traded him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
So we're a year late from that, and I think
the smart move would be to rip this up and sign.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Into a long term deal. Now, maybe Schneider's not going
to do that.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
We got to see if the next offensive coordinator can
work the same magic that Clint Kubiak did. How much
of its Kubiak, how much of it's Dner.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
I think Donald is a lot of it.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But there's no guaranteed this is going to be replicated
when they feel that spot that Kubiak vacated, which is
obviously a big deal. When you've got a head coach
who is a defensive guy and your offensive coordinator gets
the head coaching job elsewhere, you're not going to have
offensive continuity. And I saw today that they're interviewing four
of the guys on the staff. The best way to
get continuity is to promote from within. But what did
(08:37):
that do for the lines last year?
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah, well, Mike Florio's with us. Mike, what about Kenny Walker?
I mean, the last six games he's been putting up
McCaffrey like numbers. I realized he wasn't doing it over
seventeen games, But in the last six weeks, this guy's
been on fire. And now he's a free agent and
he might be the second most coveted running back in
free agency, if not the most coveted running back in
(08:59):
free agency. What do you think the market will bear?
How much of a bidding war will the Seahawks have
to get into for Kenny Walker.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, the good news is the Raiders already have Ashton Jenny,
so they don't have to worry about Quint Kubiak and
John Spypeck and Tom Brady getting into the bidding. But
the running back position has been and continues to be
devalued by the simple fact that the supply of capable
running backs outweighs the demand.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
And also it's a position that has a very high
risk of injury.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
So if you make the significant investment in one player,
there's a chance that.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
That guy gets hurt and that money isn't helping you
win football games. And you could.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Argue, we'll find someone in the draft in round two,
three or four who can come in.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
You know, it dawned on me back in the early
part of the first.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
Decade of the century. I used to go to all
the West Virginia games. It's like, you know, we have
a guy every year that could play in the NFL
at running back and thrive and if you block for him,
if he can be he trusted the hold onto the
football when NFL caliber defenders are ripping it away, and
if you can trust in pass protection to pick up blitzes,
you got a guy that can play.
Speaker 4 (10:08):
In the NFL. There are too many guys, too many
great running backs. It's a tough position.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
It's demanding that there are too many guys who can
do it, and that creates this temptation. Hey, let's go
back twenty years Sean Alexander MVP season.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
What do they do?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
They give him a huge contract a year later, they
couldn't wait to get out of it.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
So that's the risk. That's the balance.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And unless they use the franchise tag, which is the possibility,
it's not something that is completely off the table. I
would say, Okay, at least consider it. It frees everything
in place for a year and it gives him a
significant chunk of money for one season. But unless they
use the franchise tag, he's gonna be able to go
wherever he wants to go. And all it takes is
one team that sees what he did and decides two things.
(10:48):
Number One, I want this guy to play for me.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
In number two. I want to try to chip away
at the Super Bowl champion. That used to be.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
More prevalent, Like we used to see more of an
aggressive effort by other teams to raid a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I remember when the Cowboys were great thirty.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
Years ago, it seemed like there was a concerted effort
to get there guys away. We haven't seen that more recently,
Like the Chief, when Chris Jones was going to be
a free agent, we didn't see that.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
So I don't know, but he's in line to get paid.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
The challenge is coming up with the right number, and
will another team out.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Did the Seahawks?
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And would he take less to stick around in Seattle
to continue to be part of something that's going pretty
well right now?
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Who's the next OC in Seattle?
Speaker 4 (11:26):
I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Somebody from within, but I don't know.
Speaker 3 (11:31):
Yea, you know that that's a Mike McDonald call and
the John Schneider call. That's going to be driven by,
I believe, making sure you do everything you can to
keep the.
Speaker 4 (11:41):
Offense as similar as it was. This can't be an
ego driven situation where the new.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
OC is like, well, you know, I'm going to keep
some of the concepts, but I'm going to do.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
It my way. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
You have to try to You have to try to
keep things rolling in the direction that they've been rolling.
And it needs to be an organizational thing.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
So we'll find out it's significant.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's a significant thing. It's a good problem to have.
That is I always say, the only good problem to
have is no problem.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, Mike, before you got two words for you, greatest
moment on radio row for us was getting to see
you and visit with you in pros.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Shut up.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Highlight of the week.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
Up, highlight of the We said that thirty times this
week I'm or I'm the only guests you had.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Maybe that's maybe everybody else said.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
No, we only said it twenty five times, not thirty.
Stop exaggerating, all right, Mike, you're the man.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
It was just last week.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Oh, it was like a month ago.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
When you were doing the.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Intro, I'm thinking, well, why did Why wasn't I all
with him?
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Last week? Why? Why was it Why has it been
two weeks? Since it's only been one week.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah, yeah, it feels like a month ago. We and
all of us are exhausted, but it's a good it's
a good exhausted. Mike, you're the man.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Oh, it's a better exhaustion than the feeling in Boston.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
That's for Dan, Oh, you know what, I love it.
And for those Patriot fans. By the way, you got
two words for you. Oh, non, Mike, we'll talking away
and see you buddy. But all right, Mike Florio with us.
We're gonna come back and hear from Leonard Williams and
more from that guy Ernest Jones next on ninety three
three kJ RFM.
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