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September 11, 2026 • 12 mins

Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk to Mike Florio about the Seahawks win over the Patriots on Wednesday, the latest on Sam Darnold's hip injury, whether the Rams travel decisions were to blame for their performance and Florio takes shots at Softy.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with pro football talks,
Mike Florio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
What's up, bud? How are you?

Speaker 2 (00:23):
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(00:46):
Here he is, the king of the NFL media press corps,
heavyweight champion, profootballtalk.com, the NFL and NBC, and my friend,
Michael Florio.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Michael, how are you, pal?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Good afternoon, buttholes. I enjoyed my time in Seattle immensely,
although I didn't get to do much. We had a
couple of good meals, very good meals. Tuesday night, Wednesday night,
I snuck out of the stadium after I was clear
from my NBC secret with my wife while not so
discreetly watching the rest of the game on my phone.
Got up. Thursday, bright and early, 3 a.m. for the

(01:19):
4 a.m. show, and then jumped on the Alaska Air
flight direct to Pittsburgh. Kudos, Alaska Air, direct flights to Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh doesn't have direct flights anywhere in Taiwan.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, it was great to see you. Wait a minute,
we didn't see you, but it would have been great
to see you if you're in town.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
That made it even better.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
That made it even better.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
I got a text from a buddy of mine. Are
you going to see Florio? No, no, no.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
He's got bigger fish to fry than hanging out with us. Well,
there's a lot to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Paul Allen asked me the same question. I said, hell no,
I'm not going to see him.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I talk to him every week.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's enough.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
If you're not going to see PA, then I guess
you're not going to see me. But there's a lot
to talk about.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
No, it wasn't. PA was asking if I was going
to see you. There would have been no reason to
see Paul Allen. He doesn't live in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
I got you.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
Okay, pal. All right.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
What's up, buttholes?

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
Where do you want to start, dude? Do you want
to start with what you saw at Lumen Field on
Wednesday night?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
You were here. You saw it in person.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
What did you make of the entire atmosphere and the
way the Hawks pulled that off with Drew Locke down
10-0 and came back and beat the reigning AFC champions?

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Anytime you can come back and win a game that
it felt for more than two quarters like you were
destined to lose, and then again at the end it
felt like at a minimum you're going to have to
find a way to win it in overtime and just
have the door slammed shut the way that the Patriots
allowed it to be slammed shut with that stupid decision
to throw the ball. And Drake, I think trying to

(02:41):
make himself into Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen by making
a throw that only those two guys can make, and
serving the ball up on a platter for a game-ending interception,
that's got to feel good. Anytime you win on a
night that you feel like you should have lost, you
take that, you run with it, you don't talk about it,
you don't dwell on it, you just get on to
the next game.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Were you surprised with the dominance of the Hawks' D,
particularly because of the injuries in the back end, and
also they were getting very little support from the other
side of the football?

Speaker 3 (03:12):
I wasn't surprised because we've come to... take for granted
the dominance of the defense. That's why they were able
to win the Super Bowl so easily. The problem for
New England, you got these two new pieces, the two
shiny new toys in the passing game, A.J. Brown, Romeo Dobbs.
They didn't do anything. Nothing. Brown gets injured. High ankle.
He's on IR. He's going to miss at least four games.

(03:33):
Dobbs had three targets, no catches, and one very big drop.
If he catches that pass on the crossing route, right?
The Patriots maybe win that game. That was just another
one of those, you know, you can boil a game
down to four or five moments. That was a big moment.
They make that play that a professional football player, receiver,
their job is to catch passes. If you make that catch,

(03:56):
the Patriots possibly steal a win on opening night.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
Mike Florio with us.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Mike, can you add anything to the Sam Darnold conversation
besides kind of what we already know? I mean, reports
are he's going to miss the Arizona game. The Hawks
are being kind of tight-lipped about a lot of this
so far. But any thoughts, anything you've been able to
uncover on the severity of the Darnold hip injury and
how long we should expect him to be out for?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
You know, when it first happened, we were in the
NBC trailer and somebody mentioned Bo Jackson, the innocuous landing
of the knee on the ground, the forces on the hip.
Jackson ended up with a vascular necrosis and had to
have a hip replacement. That's the absolute worst case scenario.
They feared he had broken his hip socket. And there
is some information out there. But any time a team
is tight lipped and we know that teams are always

(04:43):
tight lipped. But if they're trying to add another quarterback
to a trade, for example, or they're trying to maybe
negotiate a deal. Jimmy Garoppolo, he spent time with offensive
coordinator Brian Flory. in San Francisco, you want to be
operating from a position of strength and you don't want
people to know you're desperate. That's the only flicker in
my brain based on 25 years of doing this that

(05:05):
goes off when a team is being that quiet about
a key player's health. Are they being strategically silent to
allow them to make a good move via free agency
or trade in order to address an area of need
that they don't want the other team in the trade
talks or the player who's available to anyone. They don't

(05:28):
want them to know how badly they need them. That's
my concern. And I don't know. All I know is
the pattern and I know the trend. And I know
that in the past, when someone's been that tight lip,
they've had a very good strategic reason to be tight lip.
So I'd be, if I'm Seahawks fan, I'd be worrying
about Sam Darnold and wondering when we're going to see

(05:49):
him again. And I'd have a a little corner of
my soul devoted to fretting over the possibility he may
be out for a while. But I don't know that.
I'm just basing that on the objective information that we have.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Well, you mentioned the pattern.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
Is the pattern to pick up somebody in these short-
to medium-term injuries? And how long can a good team
like the Seahawks, maybe even a great team like the Seahawks,
hold the fort without their starter before it becomes debilitating
for them win-loss-wise?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
I don't know that it necessarily becomes debilitating. Drew Locke
is no slouch. They drafted Jalen Milrow in the third round,
and they really liked him. He just hasn't developed as
a passer the way that they would prefer. Drew Locke
had that big Monday night win in 23. Was it
23 or 24 against the Philadelphia Eagles? I think it
was 23 on the Monday night near the end of
the season. That was the last year. That was Pete

(06:38):
Carroll's final season. The win made him 7-7. They didn't
make the playoffs that year. He had the big win
with a touchdown pass, 28 seconds, I believe, left in
the game. So he can play. He just hasn't been
recognized as a guy who should be a starter. So
his number gets called. He comes in and plays. And
most teams would rather have, as their starter, a guy
who knows the system than a stranger. But to the

(07:02):
extent that Brian Flory's system is– influenced heavily by his
time with kyle shanahan that's why a guy like garoppolo
who i think would be on a team right now
if someone would pay him what he wanted i don't
think he retired i just think he said screw it
it's not worth playing for that amount right so it
would make sense to have someone else there and ready
to go because if lock gets hurt then you're screwed

(07:26):
having another guy in the building is insurance against lightning
striking again.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Mike Florio with us.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
Mike, how much do you find yourself critical of the
Rams travel decision to get to Australia late in light
of them getting destroyed by the Niners last night?

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Well, I was giving them the benefit of the doubt
ahead of time. And I said this today on PFT Live,
and I wish I'd applied the same mindset to what
the Rams were doing. When Bill Belichick decided a few
years ago to make Matt Patricia and Joe Judge the
two guys in charge of his offense, I said, if
any other coach was doing this, we would be saying,
has he lost his damn mind? And I wish I

(08:05):
would have had that same thought about Sean McVay's travel plan.
If anyone else is doing it, we're going to say,
have you lost your mind? You're going to barnstorm in.
You're going to get there 28 hours before kickoff, and
you think you're going to be properly acclimated and adjusted.
You can just treat it like we went out for
a drive and we– came home and we're going to

(08:26):
act like we're in LA. And the other side of
this too, Michael Hawley had a great point today on
PFT Live. You know, the NFL has rules and requirements
for media availability when you show up in advance of
the Super Bowl. If they're going to do this big deal,
export a game to start the season, They should take
that decision out of the hands of the teams. They
should say, you're going a week early. You're going to

(08:49):
go and you're going to do stuff. You're going to
have press conferences there. We're going to treat this like
a Super Bowl that we're playing in another country. And
we're going to have the full experience, whether you like
it or not. So I think that would have made
it easier for the Rams. They would have had no choices.
I think the Rams did what they did because they're
thinking about week two, week three, week four. They don't
want this experience to screw them up moving forward. I

(09:13):
think they allowed it to screw them up excessively going in.
And it also makes me wonder, you got too many
yes men in the Rams organization. You got nobody in
there that's going to say to Sean, maybe this isn't
what we should do. Look at what the 49ers are doing.
Think about what happens if we lose this game. Think
about how we're going to get crushed if we lose
this game. So I have a feeling they'll do it
differently if they're Numbers called to play in Australia again

(09:35):
in the future.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Mike, did the Bucs overpay for Baker at $ 55 million
a year?

Speaker 3 (09:40):
No, because it's not $ 55 million a year. It's $ 48
million a year on a four-year deal. That's one of
the realities of the new money fiction. You have to
factor in what he was due to make this year.
That's year one. Year two, year three, year four is
the extra 165. So 48 million is a fair number.
The range is 20 to 65. He's close to the top.
And you can have some guys that aren't as good

(10:02):
as Baker Mayfield that are making the same kind of money.
So I think it's a good deal to win when
they clearly wanted him. Why do you want to play
that game? But look at Atlanta right now. They got
four quarterbacks on the roster and none of them is
ever going to be confused for Joe Montana. All due
respect to the four guys on the roster. Could you
not envision a set of facts where the season ends,

(10:25):
the Buccaneers decide not to spend $ 48, $ 49 million under
the franchise tag to keep him, and then he says,
I'll go to Atlanta. Screw you. I'm going to stay
in your division. I'm going to torment you twice a year.
So you've got to ask yourself, what happens next with
the guy we don't pay, and what's our– Plan B
against B if the guy leaves. So I think it's
a win-win, and it's good that sanity prevailed. And I

(10:48):
respect Baker Mayfield for not being so stubborn that he
didn't do a good deal. He said, if it's not done,
I'm not doing one. Good for him to realize, yeah,
I need to go ahead and do this.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Mike, despite your lack of regret, I do regret not
seeing you on Wednesday. I consider you a dear friend,
and I'm sorry that we did not connect.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
That doesn't change my mind whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mike, you're the man. Trade's tough, and we're talking a week.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Can I promote one restaurant that we really love? Sure, yes.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
No, tell us.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
My wife found, there's this place called The Pink Door.
They had live jazz. They had this awesome halibut special,
and it reminds me of probably an old Jerry Seinfeld bit. Like,
if it's a special, why isn't it on the menu?
That thing they had that night should be on the menu.
I will go to Seattle. The next time I'm there,
and I will go to the pink door and pray
that that thing is on the regular menu if it's
not a special. It was an excellent meal, one of

(11:43):
the best meals I've had in a long time. Great place,
great atmosphere anyway. All right. A place I'll never enter
probably again in my life.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Yeah, come back to town.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
You can have the halibut, but the payoff or the
drawback tradeoff is you got to see me and Dick.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Are you in?

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I'll never be back.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I see that.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Dick, it's not against you.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
Dick and Hugh, that's really the way to say it.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
That's fine. I'll step aside.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Dick and Hugh and I will go out. All right.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
You know what? Your phone's breaking up. Mike Florio, he's
done for the week. We'll talk to him in a week.
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