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Speaker 3 (00:18):
These are the couple of pest plays that he's had
some four of this game.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
I'll step up and shoot one downfield. It's in a
second hillan guys, go.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
To the middle.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Jillian Love has it Love fifty Love forty and out
about at the thirty six yard long.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
You got nothing forty year.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
They're just no way that ball is going to be late.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Well, he's back on the radio show, Dick, and I
gotta be totally honest with you. If I had lost
that game on Sunday and a radio station in Boston
called me to go on the air, I would have
told him to go himselves. Okay, But this guy's a
better man than me, and he's with us right now.
The color man for the Patriot Radio Network back again,
hung out on the radio row. Last week, Scott Zolac
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with us on the program. Scotti, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
My two favorite names in sports radio. Can you shot
like that on your station?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
No, that's why we got to bleep it out, by
the way, So yeah, we're all good to go there,
but maybe on on on the podcast we can. But
let's talk about the reaction. Man, how are people doing?
How you doing after Sunday's loss to the Hawks?
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Man, well, I think you lost to a better team.
And it's short of my ignorance too, because you know,
when you play on the East Coast, we're an AFC team,
you guys are an NFC team, and you know I
travel with the team on the road, so we either
playing or we're traveling pretty much touring your games, and
like the only time we really get to see is
that if you're playing on Thursday night or if you're
in prime time on Sunday. Of course, I watched, you know,
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the NFC Championship game after we beat Denver. We got
stuck at Denver, and we knew the Rams and you
guys were two good teams and didn't matter which one
you're gonna get would probably be the underdog to either one.
But you just thought, hey, you know, nice day, Drake
May Schulder is going to be okay, and it's gonna
be a great day to football around a lot. It
just wasn't for us. Couldn't protect him, couldn't get open,
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and when we did get guys open, he really couldn't
hit him. He had a couple of good throws in
that game, and we couldn't stop the run. Man, you
guys are a big, physical team, and the way you
guys are built, I think that's sort of the way
Mike would like to build this team three years from now.
I mean, we come away from the year seventeen wins
that that came out of nowhere, and you could say
it's an easy schedule or you got to play. We
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play at the bottom line. You see your schedule for
next year, even the home games, it's ridiculous. We got
a hell of a schedule next year. You guys got
to help a schedule. It's not gonna be easy to
sort of get back to that game. It's gonna be
tough for both teams to attempt to do that.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
What surprised you the most?
Speaker 1 (02:43):
What jumped out a you and just said wow?
Speaker 4 (02:45):
In this game lon of scrimmage, control the line of
scrimmage to the offensive line did it's harder defensive line
and just the ability to run the ball on us.
We couldn't stop the run and we kind of got
away from the run too. We were good on first down,
I thought early, and then we had those three straight
series on first down where we threw it and there
were three sacks for over thirty yards. Yeah, you know,
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and then the fumble and it gets returned like that.
That's ball game. I got texting my kid, Hey, just
go to the post party. I'll see you there. Yeah,
that was That was third quarter, but it was my
six to one. Three of them we won, three of
them we lost. But like that one against the Eagles
where it came down to basically the last play. You know,
Brady threw for five hundred and five yards and you know,
you get the ship sacked in the final minute of
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the game, and I tell you what, that one devastates you.
I think the middle of the third quarter just base,
even when it was nine to nothing. I thought the
field goal before the half was huge for Seattle because
if we go into the half down six zip, I
think that's a win for us. In the first half,
because you guys basically controlled the first half but couldn't
get the ball in the end zones. Like our red
zone defense is pretty good, but you could just say
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we wanted those four points in that game. We didn't
have the bullet. We didn't have the bullets, and you
guys could cover, you could blitz, you could disguise. You know,
we just weren't ready right. Well.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
Scott Zolac, with US Patriot color commentator on the Paget
Radio Network, was with us in the last couple of
weeks and with us again to kind of wrap it
up and give us a new England perspective. Scotty, I'm
looking at Drake May after three quarters was eight of eighteen.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
For sixty one.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Some people are wondering how how messed up was that shoulder?
Maybe you could tell being a former quarterback just watching
him play. Do you really believe in your gut that
he was dealing with an injury that maybe was worse
than we thought.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, and I think so. I think they sold it
pretty good that he was going to be okay. And
I took the cheese on a little bit too. And
you're hearing him in postgame and he said yeah, we
shot it up. And I'm like, whoa, whoa? Would he say,
you know you shot it up? Yeah, that's not great
for a quarterback when you're shooting up your ac joint.
It's just I think it limits what you could control.
Like a baseball picture. Here's to the sac Jourdan' get
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him out of game. You're gonna shoot him until the
let's go try and get this next guy out. But
this is what football players do. You shoot it up,
and if you hurt, you shoot it up. I bet
you guys had eight guys had shot stuff up prior
to taking the field. It's just want of football. And
he did not hit the same type of throws that
he hit in previous weeks and and throughout of course
the regular season. But it's he went through the gauntlet
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though man Chargers defense, and then the Texans defense, Denver's
defense in Denver and bad conditions, and then you guys
in the Super Bowl on a dry track, and that's
tough sledding for anybody.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Scott, what would you like to see Mike Rabil and
Josh McDaniels do differently in that game?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Good question. Offensively, it's hard to do anything different because
we didn't have the firepower. You know, you gotta, you gotta,
you got a true number one in JSN and you know,
Gonzal followed him around all day and did a pretty
damn good job on him. That's how Cup getting some catches,
Like we really don't have a one. I don't know
if we have a two. And that's part of the problem.
I didn't you know any offseason. You know, it might
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might keeps harping on too, like we when only been
at this for three hundred and seven days since he
took over the team start even a full calendar year
yet and you know, it's just one of those things
where we gotta add. We got to add the right pieces.
I think it's a that's a wake up call too,
that type of game, because here's where we aired. You know,
like we got to first and foremost, gotta protect the
quarterback or he's gonna get hurt and it's not gonna
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go well, we're not gonna run the ball. I think
you need edg rusher, you know, get a guy like
Max Crossman. I think that's in play. You know, Dina
Rasini had to report he wants to play for Mike.
That be fantastic. We get him and pair him with
Milton Williams. That helps the coverage, and you guys know
what the front does. Like you guys got four home
wreckerds up there and they could get after the quarterback
without having the blitz, and then when he did blitz,
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he got to the quarterback. It's that simple. But I
don't know if Josh could have done anything different in
that game. Maybe maybe a little more motion. I don't know,
maybe some some plays we haven't ran. I think we
operated out out of the gun sixty percent of the time,
and you think we're under center forty Maybe go under
center a little bit more, something like that and stick
to the run maybe a little bit more. I think
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we got to waste in the run early in that game.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Yeah, well, Scott's olak again with us, Scotty, how many
how many Super Bowls?
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Is this for you that you've covered with this team?
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Well? Me, I didn't. I didn't get the front end
of the dynasty. I was still trying to make my
way into working here. I've called six of those and
I think I've done what lot the twelve AFC Championship game.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
So my question would be this, because I think Dick,
you would agree. Game time in the stadium, it really
kind of felt like a pro Seahawk crowd. Seventy thirty,
seventy five, twenty five, call it whatever you want. You know,
there's rumors that the Patriots had to go to a
silent count to combat the crowd. How did this travel
squad of Patriot fans compare to other Super Bowls that
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you've covered with this team.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Well, I think the one twenty eight to three, I
think everybody mortgage houses for that one. In the Atlanta game,
that's the year Brady got suspended, so you're out for
blood at that point. That was basically a home game
for us. You know, the Houston excuse me, the Lanta
game with uh where we played the Rams, that was
a pro Patriot crowd. We heard you guys at forty nine.
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I think that was pretty even. But you know, like
we've been to a bunch of them, ends have gone.
It's sort of a turnover of a new era, new roster.
Look at it, see you guys. Le legion of boom
was was a long time ago. I think I don't
know what you guys thought it. I thought it was
too spread out by the way.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Totally agree on that about the thing being too spread out, ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
I mean, to have all that that's pretty sucks for it.
I should not get a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, I'm with you a thousand percent more.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
I just want to follow up on that thought, because
you know, you do have a fair comp super Bowl
forty nine and Super Bowl sixty are fair comps. The
exact two teams and almost the exact location. I mean,
it's the same distance from Arizona as it is the
New England.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
It is from San Francisco, New England. So why do
you think why do.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
You think it was fifty to fifty in Arizona and
seventy five to twenty five year.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
I don't know if that high seventy five to twenty
twenty five, but you know, going in and had your favorite,
you know, I think it's a confidence factor. Yeah, it
was the build of that team. You know, the coach
has been there for a couple of years, Mike's brand
new here. Yeah, we tore this thing together in ten months.
So I don't know if everybody truly believed in it.
But once they got hot and they went on a
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run of one, and I remember, I think people got excited.
I think people really got excited here. What's winning Denver?
It's almost like you needed that to convince him.
Speaker 5 (09:05):
Right, Well, I know this, Scott, and I know Boston
sports fans that somebody's paying for this on the airwaves
in in Boston. Somebody's getting ripped, somebody's getting barbecued, or
are they? Is this maybe the one game where fans
are kind of backing off a little bit because of
everything you just said about you know, not even a
calendar year ago, and Ybele threw this thing together and
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won the AFC. If there's anybody taking you know, slings
and arrows from from the fan base, who is it?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Not many? I think it's the offensive line. I do,
But maybe we know it's not great. But it was
so guys, it was so bad. I think I think
anything of the replicas at above five hundred record would
be excitable and tolerable. Here it was almost called a
magical ride. I hate using that word. It's not a
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magical ride because they're expected to win here. It's just
you know, we ran out of gas. You hit a
brick wall, and that's a big brick wall you hit.
So because I think it's hard to play for everybody
because they had such a great year.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
So because of that, I mean, is there a large
possibility of a backslide next year? Like you said, you
do not have the schedule next year that you had
this year, and so is it just natural to experience
maybe what new what Detroit experienced this year, going from
fifteen to like nine.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Yeah, and that's that's what you gotta be careful. But
the big thing, it's like, when you win, your staff
gets plucked, your players get plucked. People want to replicate
what you did, So then that that comes to challenge.
It's a mixture of a lot of things, you know,
and it's that's why I love football. It is the
greatest game. The schedules come out and everybody's calling it
down and I'm sure you have your callers. Are probably
gonna be a fifteen win team next year.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
You can't do that.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
There's injuries that happened. Quarterbacks go down. You know, we
got a stretch of games where we didn't really play
that creative of a quarterback. On the other side, we
avoided Joe Burrow with Cincinnati. That's a big one. They
had to play Flaco would him But I just think
that this team so that they won eleven games in
a row. It's hard to win three games in a
row in this league. You guys know what you see it,
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you cover it and been doing this for years. But
it's just the team is going in the right direction.
That's what fans here excited about. And it was great
what Craft did because he recognized what he erited. And
that's hard to do for an ego, for an owner.
That boy I screwed up Hiron Mayo after Belichick and
I'm going to pop him after the year, but you
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gotta suck it up, pay the money for the staff,
and you had the opportunity to go get Mike and
he did it. He heard the sands and fans boo
booted the team in the last home game last year,
and it really stuck with Robert Kraft. Yeah, and none
of this happens with less. Craft makes the move right.
Speaker 5 (11:43):
Yeah, It's kind of similar to what Todd Laiwicki did
with the Seahawks when they whacked Jim Mora after a
year replacing Mike Hombrey said this isn't working. Let's go
get Pete Carroll and then four years later they were champions, right,
So it's right exactly when you got an owner that's
willing to just rip off the band aid and waste time,
you got to appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
But Scotty, before you.
Speaker 5 (12:02):
Go Scott Zolac again with us, I got to ask
you as a as an ex quarterback, as an observer
of quarterbacks. Never mind the Patriot Seahawk thing. A lot
of people around the country, I don't want to give
Donald any credit for any of this. Our buddy Rob
Parker over at Fox called him scam Darnald on his
show the other day, and I ripped them a new
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one for that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I got my own thoughts on that.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
But how much credit do you think Sam Donald should
be given for what the Seahawks just accomplished?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Not a lot in that game, I'd say. I was
telling people halftime, he's gonna lose a game for him.
He tried. There were three bad throws and then he
went to a pistol. I don't know if you remember this, sir,
backed up inside the ten. He w's some stupid pistol.
He's not a mobile guy, and they made him force
throw to the left. He almost hit our guy, and
he asked with the ball on a wide receiver screen
like that. Those are dangerous throws. Some throws to the side. Now,
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there was a hell of catch on the first one.
Cupp really didn't catch that second one. He's out of bounce,
but we didn't challenge it. That was stupid. And uh,
he made throws. He had to. He picked up that
one with his legs in what the I think it
was the third quarter, right, yeah, third quarter, our quarter.
He's going left to right. That was a big run
for him. The running game in your defense one that game, guys,
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But Sam pretty extremely well against the Rams to help
get them there. Yeah, you know, and he seems are weird.
That's how they go some days, or quarterbacks that have
to go win them. We did that with Brady. And
then you have a game where you beat the Rams
like thirteen three and pretty doesn't have to throw for
five hundred yards.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Right, right, exactly. You guys have seen that too.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Out there for sure with the greatest of all time,
all right, man, Scott Zolac, listen, enjoy the off season, buddy,
and who knows.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Maybe we'll be doing this again next year in LA play.
Speaker 4 (13:44):
Who'll be out there, man, that's right. I want to
come downtown and have some fun there. You go.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Done, well, we'll hit you up before that game happens
and we'll get together, all right, palace, Thanks.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Man, Right, congrats Seahawks, see you guys.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
That thanks man.
Speaker 5 (13:56):
Scott Zolac with US Patriot color commentator with US the
first game of the season.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
You know what, I don't know if I want.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
It to be the first game of the season. Do
you want it to be the first game of the season.
I'd rather have some build up, you know, see how
good the Patriots can be next year, see if they're
gonna take a step back a little bit, and then
maybe play that game like on a on a Monday night,
or or maybe a Thursday night in like November. If
I want that game to be the first game of
the year because we have a better.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Are you saying we have a better chance of beating
them if they're like five hundred and then what we
do in the first game of the season, I guess
I just play in revenge.
Speaker 5 (14:27):
I just I just want that game to maybe kind
of mean something more, because if you lose the opener,
I mean, we lost the opener to San Francisco and
then they went you know, fourteen and whatever the rest
of the way, right, So, I don't know, I kind
of I'm kind of fifty to fifty on it, Dick.
I'd rather kind of maybe play that game later in
the year. About you, that's fair.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
I mean, I guess the only high profile, really high
profile games would be Rams in that And we know
it can't be the Rams, Niners or.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
The Rams, right because they're playing on as It's like, right,
I don't want their teams.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I got to be on a for you. I don't
really care who they play in Week one.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
That's about the Seahawks Thursday night about then, right, Well,
that's their problem.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
They're not going to put the Cardinals out. That ask
my Tarrico when he thinks they're asking me.
Speaker 5 (15:11):
Right, what I think is that I just want that
night to be all about the Seahawks. I don't want
to hear about any I mean, first of all, the
idea that New England can get revenge in the Week
one of the NFL season for a Super Bowl is ridiculous, right,
I mean, I remember playing the Broncos in a preseason
game after we smashed them in twenty thirteen, and some
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idiot defensive back was talking about getting paidback in a.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Preseason I'm like, what the hell are you talking.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
About, man, So I don't think of that as retribution
or revenge at all. I don't really care who they
play because everyone that night's going to be on such
a high when that team comes into that stadium and
maybe the Lombardi Trophies there, they unveil the flag, the
banner for the first time. So you play whoever you
want because that place is going to be nuts. There
are some high profile options.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
We've got the Cowboys, we got the Chiefs, we got
the Patriots, we got the Chargers, and even less or so,
we got the Bears. I mean there's a lot of Chiefs.
It's a lot of high profile. Well I don't think
that might not be ready for a week, that's true.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
But you know what, again, I'm not even thinking about,
you know, who gives us the best chance to win
the game. I don't fear anybody right now as a
Seahawks fan. I mean, you bring them on anybody, I
fear nobody. I mean Chicago and Caleb Williams, that guy
running around like crazy right like a chicken with his
head cut off. That's the great Equalizer, so that me
concerned me a little bit. But I just again want
that night to be all about us and I don't
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give a crap who we play. In the opener, all right,
good stuff from Scott Zolac. I got a lot more
to get to on a busy Thursday night. We're going
till seven right here on ninety three to three KJRFM.