Furness Show 1-16: Stewart Mandel, Jordan Morris, Corbin Smith and Gary Parrish

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Washington men's basketball hosted number sixteen Perdue last night, boiler
up sixty nine fifty eight final score great ols word
was good. I give him credit. Man, he had twenty
eight game. But it's a weird team. We'll talk about that.

(01:00):
Gary Press two o'clock day. They played number thirteen Oregon
on Tuesday in Eugene. Washington women lost to Michigan on
the road yesterday eighty two sixty nine. Next up, they
played Purdue Saturday, two o'clock. You hear that over on
ten ninety am. Cougar Ben's basketball team faces Sandy eight
four and fourteen San Diego on the road tonight. They
tip off at seven o'clock. Of course, they played a

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team that was similar last week called Pacific, and that
didn't go so well. So I don't want to say
too much right now on those lines.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
You're just dating facts. You're just dating facts facts.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
A couple sad bits of news today, mister baseball. Bob
Uker legendary Brews is now so passed away at the
age of ninety and Gus Williams of the Sonics to
their only ANBA championship at the age of seventy one,
died yesterday. More on that in a second. Let's start
the show. Welcome into the show. That was weird last
night watching that game at Heckhead and looking down and
seeing Big ten on the floor at Big Yeah camera.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I don't either.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I don't know if Washington likes it either. Right now
on one and six in the in the conference. They
like the paycheck in the stability. I'm sure. They had
a ten point lead at one point towards the end
of the first half, led by eight at the half,
and then Purdue said, yeah, we're gonna We're done screwing around.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
The best is who we really are.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, a backcourt tandem that that was in the final
four for a couple of years in championship game last year,
said we're done. Great O Sport was good, though, you know,
I bag on him all the time. I kind of
chuckled because he's he's I don't think there is a
college basketball player not named maybe Cooper Flag, maybe maybe
Iowa State's kid they got from Buffalo and Cup but

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worth two million dollars. He worth two million dollars. But
he was good last night. He was good last night.
There's no doubt about it. They kind of let him
do his thing and then said we're gonna shut everybody
else down. That's what Purdue did. But Sprinkleking coach, he'll
be fine. Uh, just not this year. Okay, we'll getting that.
Gary Perry joins at two o'clock today. We'll check in
with him. Our first visit of the year with Gary.

(02:58):
I'm excited for that first visit of the season with Gary.
And one of the things fun things about Gary Parrish
from CBS Sports I on College Basketball Podcast. You see
him on Inside College Basketball as well. He's there all
the time. Gary is a guy that I think Jess
would agree with me. We have him on. We've had
him on for I want to say five ors. Well, God,

(03:19):
this this is year five since the COVID right, COVID
was twenty twenty y. We had him on at least
a year or two before COVID.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
Wow, so that's a while.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yes, we've had Gary and I want to say six
seven years at least. And I love having Gary on
every week brought to my Nola Brewing. I love talking
college basketball with him, and I like college basketball quite
a bit. I'm not as tuned in as I have
been in the past this year because I have NHL
stuff to kind of worry about more and my bandwidth, sorry, Jess,
at this age is just not as big as it

(03:48):
used to be. But I love college hoops. I watched
a great game Missouri Florida on Monday. Fantastic game. Gary
is a guy that comes on, and most people in
this war, unless the Huskies are humon or the Koug's
are human, or unless you're a Gonzaga fan, that you
kind of pay attention to college basketball end of February
early March, and then you get your bracket ready and

(04:09):
for a week or so we altern into experts. Right,
That's how it works in college hoops. Gary's kind of guy.
He comes on, and I think if you listen to
Gary and listen to his segment, and if you ever
get a chance to listen to his podcast, you become
a college basketball fan. He does that kind of job,
articulating and explaining and talking about his game that he
loves with passion. He's a ton of fun, one of

(04:29):
my favorite guests. So Gary's going to join us, coming
up at two o'clock today. I will ask him about
what the latest on Memphis and possible move to the
new Big or Pac twelve is. And also he's based
in Memphis, although he's been in New York a lot
doing the national TV stuff. I'll ask him about the
leading candidate for Rookie of the Year in the NBA.

(04:50):
He plays for the Memphis Grizzlies, and his name is
not Zach Edy sounds a lot like Jalen Wells from Wazoo.
We'll talk about that with him, but mostly college hoops.
Two o'clock first visit of the year. One o'clock today,
Jordan Morris is going to join us from the Sounders,
and it'll be more than soccer talk. We will definitely
talk soccer. We'll definitely talk soccer. He's Jordan's I've heard

(05:14):
just giddy as are a lot of the core veterans
like Christian Roll, Dan and Jordan and Stephan front and
others about the additions the Sounders that me and the
off season. We'll talk to him a little bit about that.
I also want him it's been a while since I've
had him on the air live to talk about his foundation,
which is huge for me, like very near and dear
to my heart. So we'll talk to him about that.

(05:36):
Coming up at one o'clock we I think tomorrow during
the show, Jess will officially be able to announce the
date of the golf tournament for twenty twenty five people
if I open, So we'll have Jordan tell the story
about his foundation that's one third of where the money goes.
We'll also touch a little bit on today. It's a
really kind of a sad day in a lot of ways.

(05:57):
Bob Youker passing away at the age of ninety, Gus
William last night at the age of seventy one. This
is also the anniversary seven years ago we lost Tyler
Helensky to suicide, and so it's kind of a kind
of an emotional day and a lot of levels. So
I'm gad Jordan's gonna come on and talk about all
the good things he does with his foundation. He's one
of the blessings in our in our community. So we'll

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talk to him. Corbin Smith won thirty. This is a
funny thing. You guys don't like this. So Corbyn we
kind of said goodbye to last week. Yes, hey, thanks
a lot weekly vis been great, big thanks to sold
by Jim dot Com, two ms sold by Jim dot Com,
our friend the realtor. And then Jess says yesterday, She's like, yeah,
I reach out to Corbin, see what time you know,

(06:39):
like I think we were done with Corbyn. And then
I said, I bet Corbyn wants to come on and
we can talk about the offensive coordinator. He so boom,
we'll do that at one thirty day. We'll do that
at one thirty to day with Corbyn Smith.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Well, now that there's a new name in the hat,
we haven't talked to him about too, so.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, so then we'll and then we'll talk about that
and then we'll get Gary Perrish on at two o'clock today.
We've got a ton of texts yesterday talking about our
local baseball team and where and who and what they
are and how they can get you back. There's a
toxic feel for this team around that just permeates this
city right now with the baseball team. And again it's

(07:14):
not the players. How could you not love Cal Rawley
and Julio Rodriguez and that starting five rotation. Hell, I'll
even go demo for you. What the hell are our
utility gold Glove winner? I mean, there's guys the way
Rob was played last year, fun guy to watch a
Rose Arena, every bit of crazy. But that's fine. Everybody crazy,
We like that. That's all good. It's the organization ownership specifically,

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we asked yesterday for some texts. We got a ton
of talk. We even give to all the talk back
yesterday and we even touch in on the text just
as save those. We'll read those coming up at two
thirty today, so we have what I would call a
very busy show. I will spend some time, probably in
that first segment of the one o'clock hour, talking a
little bit as well about, if not then maybe even

(07:58):
at twelve forty five, about Gus Williams. I know a
lot of people probably on this station and across the
country talking about Bob Uker today, And certainly Bob Yuker
was a treasure for our country, made baseball fun, you know,
was a sitcom actor in Mister Belvidere then obviously part
of Major League and commercials and all kinds of stuff.

(08:20):
He was bigger than life in so many ways, but
also did a great job calling baseball games for years
and years. And he dies at the age of ninety,
and it's certainly a loss for me. What touched me
more was Gus Williams today waking up to see that news,
which I guess was last night. So we'll share some things.
If you're fifty plus in our area and have been

(08:41):
here for a long time like I have, the seventy
nine Sonics will always hold a special place in your
heart and near and dear to you softly put a
tweet out today or a post whatever we call it
these days, and it was a picture of the four
that are no longer with us from that team, and
it was actually, it's more than that, but at the

(09:01):
four starters, JJ, DJ, Gus and Lonnie Shelton, and it's
it's sad, man, it's it's that's a part of our
for many of us, as part of our childhood and
you know, kind of our some of our first sports heroes.
So we'll share some I'll share some thoughts. Gus Williams
was a true treat even though and he's kind of

(09:21):
it's an interesting thing. We talked about it yesterday with
the baseball team. We live in a very and this
is kind of cool. This is actually really nice. We
live in a very forgiving sports community here in Seattle,
in the Seattle area of this state. I mean, you
look at what happened. Griffy forced his way out of here.
Peyton and Camp kind of the same in some ways. Damn,

(09:43):
Gus Williams held out for an entire season.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
Yeah, that was historic at the time, wasn't it.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, And yet all those figures, for a lot of reasons,
are beloved to this day. It's kind of one of
those wake up calls to the Mariners. You've made us.
You've made a lot of mistakes. You have screwed up
as an ownership group and a beyond belief. You have
done more damage than good. Despite having good players, good guys,

(10:11):
good personalities, people that are easy to cheer for. You've
done more damage than good, John Stanton, it doesn't take
much to be forgiven in this town. It does not.
We will still well. People will love you unconditionally if
you do the right thing. Hell, I make the argument
Gus didn't even do the right thing. Man even held
out for a year and screwed them over in a sense.

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But we love Gus Williams Griffy. I mean, go on
and on with Griffy force his way out. Yeah, we
got Cami and some guys coming. Bat's fine, But you
know what, howe Yann that was not great. I know
he went back to his hometown, but no man built
you a damn ballpark, Ken, But we love him to
this day. Hell, you might have fell asleep or quit
during the middle of the game. I don't care. We

(10:53):
still love Griffy Junior is our guy, right, All those
things happen. You can be forgiven. You can be forgiven
in this market. It's not that hard, all right, Let's
sack a break come back. Stuart Mandel will join us
courtesy of the Athletic. Talk to him about Monday's huge
college football title game.

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Speaker 1 (11:39):
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Speaker 2 (11:48):
Stuart Mandel joins us on Thursdays during the college football
season at twelve twenty and he probably thought, Okay, that
probably means I'm done in December with these clowns in Seattle. No, Stuart,
because as we all know, the college football season does
not end until this coming Monday, on Martin Luther King Day.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
How are you sir, I'm good, but I don't know
what I'm gonna do at twelve twenty on Thursdays. When
we get to the late.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
February, We'll probably squeeze one more out of you next week,
if you're okay with that, just to kind of wrap
up whatever happens on Monday, which I don't know about you. Man.
I'm jacked. I'm excited. I can't wait. I mean, it's
a twelve team playoff. There's warts and blemishes and seedings
and all that stuff that we can work on later
on and talk about. But overall, how do you think

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the twelve team playoff experience has been.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
I think it achieved its main goals. I think it
kept more people, It kept more fans engaged throughout the
month that this event has taken place, rather than in
the past. You saw a lot of interest tailoff during
that long break before the semi finals, but mostly the
fact that Notre Dame and Ohose State are playing in

(12:59):
this game. I realized Ohio State is considered a usual suspect,
maybe Notre Dame is not. But it's two teams, two
Northern teams. There's no SEC team for the second year
in a row. Notre Dame certainly wasn't expected to be
here after lost to NIU. It just feels like this
is what this is what a postseason tournament should be like.
We often have, you know, those stories of the teams

(13:21):
that like Ohio State that that peaked at the right time,
or a Notre Dame that's just overcome, not just that lost,
and I use injuries, any number of other things to
get here. And I've just really enjoyed watching those stories
progress from week to week in this playoffs.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
I agree, And I think one of the hard things
about the small you know, a field of four or
if the old BCS with two, is it, like you
just said, lost to NIU earlier, of any type of
loss in September, it would eliminate you from any consideration
unless something extreme happened, or maybe the brand was big
and didn't. I mean, just for the most part, we
can probably use a blanket statement. It would eliminate the opportunities. Instead,

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here we are with what we feel like probably maybe
to the two best teams we'll see on Monday, But
I'm gonna circle back to that game in a second.
Let me go, you address this in your mail bag
and I've had people, just friends, we've talked about it
as well. What's the talk about the SEC? I the
part in the mailbag was about, you know, a the
SEC was cheating all those years. Now there's NIL and
so they can't get the same advantage they used to

(14:22):
and all that. I don't know if that's the case
for Reggie Bush, but what is the read on the SEC,
Because I'm sure Greg Sanke is sitting in his office
and just be bristling on Monday when he sees two
Northern teams kicking it off.

Speaker 5 (14:36):
Two Northern teams kicking it off in the stadium that
hosts the SEC championship game every year, was really the
irony of it.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
Yeah, the SEC.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
Is not going away. It definitely has had a down
couple of years, especially this year. It's still you know,
the talent is concentrated in the South. They spend a
lot of money on their football programs. They have the
most passionate fan bases. But I do think that the
new landscape of the poor and NIL have made it
harder for the Alabamas and Georgia's to hoard talent. Guys

(15:07):
aren't going to stick around to see if they're going
to you know, become the starter in the third or
fourth year, if there's a team in another part of
the country that wants them to come play now and
is willing to give them some nil money to do it.
And then I also just think that the teams, and
I wrote this in the mail bag, the programs that
we've seen really be really aggressive in terms of getting

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their boosters to donate money have not been the teams
that were already good. It was the teams that are
trying to become good, like Tennessee, Texas A and m Miami
and so I think for programs like Alabama and Georgia,
I think their fans just became accustomed to, well, we're
going to reload, right, It's not we don't need to
do anything that the players just come to us. And

(15:51):
those days have changed. I think desperation drives nil more
than anything. And you know, in Ohio State being a
perfect example of that, they weren't They also were not
throwing money around until they lost to Michigan for a
third straight time last year and Michigan won the national
championship and the next thing, you know, everybody wants in

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twenty million dollars on their roster. I don't think that's
realistic year after year after year. But if you feel
like you've got we're seeing that by the way, at
Penn State right now, you feel like you've got the
nucleus for a special team and you can raise the
money to help retain that team. You know, it really
does open the door to everybody.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Penn say, we're seeing that because there was a top
two running backs quarterback, right, I mean everybody but Tyler
Warren coming.

Speaker 7 (16:38):
Here, coming back.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Yeah, yeah, that that field, right.

Speaker 7 (16:42):
You know they just.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
So I was just gonna say, Dane brug or our
NFL draft guy. Just a little while A tweeted out
the official list of seventy underclass and who are entering
the NFL Draft. Pre nil that number was usually in
the hunters and at one point got up as high
as like one hundred and thirty. So it really is
helping to keep a lot of the talented guys who
in a previous iteration would have played three years and

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gone pro. They're keeping them in at their teams for
four or five and of course in some cases six years.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
That was what I think Sue Manuel joining us, Yeah,
I thought the same thing because I saw that list
earlier and I thought, man, this is this is odd
because it used to be. Yeah, like if you you
hit three years out of high school and you've got
any inclination all you're going to be drafted, you're gone,
You're out. And now it behooves you, especially if you're
not going to be a day one or probably day

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two pick. If you're not a day one or day
two pick, and maybe even a late Day two, you
should probably you can make more money coming back to college.
Now that that's how the landscape has changed is kind
of I would almost equate it to this Stewart. It's
like college basketball both for men and women. Like, if
you're a woman like Paige Becker's will make a hell
of a lot more money at Yukon if she comes
back next year, which she probably will. Then if she

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goes to WNBA next you now they've got a whole
different thing with a collective bart agreement a year away
and things like that. But it's a no brainer, come
on back one more year. Why wouldn't you? You'll make
more money. The same thing with college basketball players. If
you're not going to be a first round pick, you
might as well come back. Now we're seeing that in
college football in some ways makes the college football product better.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
Probably too, Yeah, I think so if he's gonna be
a top ten pick or a high first round pick,
you should goely. But you know, I think we've seen,
especially quarterbacks we've seen cam Ward would not have been
Camwoard might be the number one overall pick. He would
not have been anywhere close to the first round last
year at this time. So but remember he initially did

(18:35):
declaire yeah, and then decided. Then Miami made an offer
he couldn't refuse. So he made some money and now
he's gonna make a lot more money. And the guy
that's obviously trying to follow in his footsteps is Carson Beck,
who everybody assumed would be one of the top quarterbacks
in this year's draft, but he got hurt. He had
a bad year, he got hurt, and now he's going
to Miami for a heck of a lot of money,

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and obviously I'm sure he's hoping he will get some better,
better games on tape this year.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
That was what Stuart my del from the Athletic Joints.
When I saw that, I was surprised. I'll be honest
with you. I was surprised. I was really surprised. I mean,
it's not like his backup came in and lit the
world on fire. So I don't know what they have
in the pipeline, but for Georgia to lose their quarterback
to Miami, and this isn't nineteen eighty nine with you know,
or ninety with Dennis Ericson or Jimmy Johnson and those

(19:25):
guys in the nineties and eighties and late eighties, early
nineties with Miami. But maybe Miami's on the uptick. But
how much were people raising an eyebrow across the country
that Georgia's quarterback is going to Miami next year.

Speaker 5 (19:37):
Well, it was a very unusual situation because everybody at
Georgia had been assuming for a year that Carson Beck
was going to go to the NFL, and he in
facted to Claire for the NFL, and from what I've understand,
like they didn't know he was going in the portal
till he went to Portal. So it just kind of
all happened very quickly. Georgia has moved on, they're ready
to embrace Gunner stocked in, So it wasn't a case

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of like we were expecting this guy back, or we
really wanted this guy back, and he bolted on us.
I think it was one of those things where both
parties were ready to move on.

Speaker 6 (20:08):
That's what.

Speaker 5 (20:08):
Don't think Georgia has three million dollars lying around to
pay his quarterback like that's That's the classic example what
I said earlier. You know, Miami has been very mobilized,
very aggressive in NIL for a few years now, and
I think George is only now starting to get to
that point.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
The U is back. The U is back, no doubt
about it. Stuart Mendel with US. Okay, before we get
to the game itself, I find myself. I don't know
if I fall into this category or not. But and
maybe it's because Freeman seems like a fun guy, nice,
the opposite of Brian Kelly. Maybe I don't know who knows,
But is is Notre Dame now the nation's darling? Are

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they a likable team now? It feels like forever everyone
just wanted to, you know, kill Notre Dame. We hate
Notre Dame. They're on their own agenda. You know, there's
a lot of James Franklin's out there. He'd play in
your own conference or don't talk to us that kind
of thing. Maybe it's just because who they've played, but
it feels like Notre Dame has become the nation's darling
in a sense.

Speaker 5 (21:05):
Yeah, the team that everybody loved to root against for
as long as I've been alive is the is this team?
People are rooting for it when this game I actually
got a I get so many weird press releases I
got on a few hours ago from that online dot ag.
They use some sort of track social media tracking to

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see which states are rooting for who. Forty eight states
are rooting for Notre Dame in this game. Two Ohio
and West Virginia are rooting for Ohio State. Whoever thought
you could see that day?

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Why is that? Why do you think that is?

Speaker 5 (21:42):
I think combination of Ohio State is the big bad
juggernaut that bought its roster, if you will. And they're
not like a necessarily an easy team to root. I
don't think they're villains. And I actually think the Ryan
Day from outhouse to possible national champion is a great story.
But yeah, Notre Dame is kind of the little engine
that could in this scenario. I don't think they are

(22:04):
I think a very good team. They're not like playing
way over their head or anything. But look, we nobody's
taking any in this game. Like It's interesting, you know.
I think a lot of people are very excited for
this game, and yet pretty much everybody thinks one of
the one team is gonna win. So I don't expect
it to be a blowout, and I would not be.

(22:25):
I'm taking out how a state, but I would by
no means to be shocked if never dame one.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Let me come back to the game. To sake, I
got one more thing outside of that, just because I
wrote this note down. What what are you hearing? What
are people hearing about? Bill Belichick didn't sign a contract.
I'll be honest with you. The first time, first thing
I heard of when a guy didn't sign his contract
at that level, and it has nothing to do with
with the NFL. It's when Mike Price famously hadn't signed
his contract with Alabama and then got fired with that.

(22:50):
You know, like Mike put your name on the on
the piece of paper. Now he's sued Time magazine in
Sports Illustrated and got a ton of money. Lives in Quarterlaine.
Now he's fine, But like, he hasn't signed his contract?
What what's the story there?

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Can I tell you a quick true mic Price story
that I'm probably not allowed to tell what I will
after all these years. There was like a two or
three year period there at when I was at Sports
Illustrated after all that that we were not allowed to
write about him, like they were so mad at him,
They're like, don't even don't even write about that guy
if you don't have to. Anyway, that was of tangents,
but that was.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, now that the lawsuits can settle, you can probably
say that was. Yeah, that whole thing was good.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
But yeah, I haven't worked there in ten years, so
you know it's.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
I think, yeah, it's all gone now.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
But yes, Bill Belichick, it's it's actually not that unusual
for a take first to take a long time for
the full contract to be signed. In fact, I remember
was the headline this past preseason that Sharan Moore hadn't
signed his contract, you know, right on the eve of
the first game at Michigan. So I think this is
a case where Bilichick is getting a lot of interest,

(23:55):
obviously from both levels of the sport, to a lot
of NFLA chronicling has every move who aren't necessarily familiar
with some things in college.

Speaker 8 (24:05):
So when I saw that, I was like.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Well, but that's normal, Like it's actually not even been
that long since. I don't know why it takes the
lawyers so long to execute these long form contracts, but
I'm just saying that that's not all that unusual.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
All right, let's talk about the game. He said, most
people are picking, you know, Ohio State, and and I'll
ask you a different way, how and how can Notre
Dame win this game on Monday Stewart.

Speaker 5 (24:34):
Kind of the way they won the Georgia game. They
have to you know, obviously they have a great defense,
and that defense has to get a lot of pressure
on Will Howard. They can't afford to, like Nor Dame
must play a lot of man coverage, but I don't
think they can do that exclusively against those Ohio State receivers.
And then they're going to need some combination of either

(24:56):
turnovers or big special teams plays, which has been forte
all season is certainly in the postseason. Keep it, keep
that score down and see if you can take advantage
of an ill time turnover or something like that. They're
not going to just outscore Ohio State. They're not built
like that. It's not realistic. I think you're gonna pull

(25:19):
Ohio State to ten points. So Michigan did it, but
they can certainly keep it within reach. Play the kind
of like ugly kind of game that they like to
play more the Georgia game than the Penn State game.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Who do you think has the advantage at quarterback? Notre
Dame Riley Leonard or Will Howard and Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (25:45):
I gotta say Will Howard just because he's more of
a passer. He's actually his statistics are actually pretty good
passing wise. He just people can't forget when you left
the clock run out against Oregon six early against. He's
had some six six against thence that he's had some
bad moments, but on the hole he's went pretty good.

(26:06):
Riley Leonard is who he is, Like, he's a really
tough guy who can hurt you with his seat, and
he made some big throws in the in the game
the other night or last week, but he's not going
to kill you with his arm the way for instance,
Will Howard did against Oregon.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, it's a crazy number that you guys had in
the athletic one of your guys had today. Leonard hasn't
thrown for two undred and fifty yards or more in
a game this season, but he's rushed for eight sixty six.
And remember in college, you take you know, yards away
if you get sacked. So yeah, like that's that's a
guy that you know his legs maybe can beat you.
But if it comes down to, like you got to
rally and use your arm, then probably advantage Ohio State.

Speaker 5 (26:43):
Yeah, they're not built to come back. Obviously, they came
back from ten to nothing against Penn State the other night.
I keep saying the other night was last week, but
I don't know what day of the week it is
right now. Yeah, Yeah, I don't think like if you
get in an early hole like a lot of Ohios
opponents do, that team's just not built to come back.
They're going to have to keep it within reach throughout.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
My friend, enjoy the game on Monday. Enjoy the game
on Monday. I'm excited, You're excited, we all are. It
wraps up the twelve team playoffs for the first time,
and we'll wrap things up with you and let you
have your February and next few months off. But we'll
do one more next Friday to wrap things or next Thursday,
should say, to wrap things up. I thank you so much.
Go make sure you read Stewart stuff in the Athletic. Also,
he's got a great, great podcast with Bruce Feldman. You

(27:29):
can find that wherever your podcasts are as well the audible,
so go check that out as well. Thank you, sir,
thank you. There you go. That is Stuart Mandel joining us.
I'm jacked. I'm excited. We we don't have a show Monday,
so this is kind of well, we'll preview it now
with Stuart and then we'll talk tomorrow with Rob rang
our college football, our draft guy will do that with

(27:49):
Rob tomorrow at two o'clock. That kind of preview the
National Championship game because Monday, I should remind everybody, right, Jess,
we have a Monday early cracking game.

Speaker 4 (27:57):
Twelve thirty pre game, one o'clock puck drop.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
So we're off fun Monday. Well we're not off. I'm
not off.

Speaker 3 (28:01):
I'll be in for Greg Creig Bell is off and
so I will be holding it down with Chris Kid
from ten to noon.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I love it all right, And then then you turn
it over to our guy Mike Benton, Mike.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
Benton, Mike Betton at twelve thirty and a little extra
special Mariners preview from twelve to twelve thirty. You might
have a little stove going on.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Stove. We got a stove.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
I don't know if it's officially part of the stove,
but we are gonna sneak in some chuck Bucky and
hopefully Anders as well.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
All right, all right, well that sounds like a good,
good Monday. And then we got crack and Hockey National
Championship game. I'm gonna hustle my ass home after that
Cracking game on Monday to go check that out as well.
All Right, we'll come back with more. Don't forget Jordan Morris.
Top of the Hour, one o'clock ninety three point three KTERFM.

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We'll be up there tomorrow. I'm excited, you know, wait,
getting ready for divisional playoff weekend in the National Football League.
Also a college football playoff game on Monday, So we'll

(29:22):
be up there tomorrow. The sports book can't wait and
be up there from noon until three pm tomorrow. Sad
news coming out in the world of sports today on
a couple levels. One Bob Uker passing away at the
age of ninety, the beloved announcer of the Milwaukee Brewers,
did a lot of national TV, of course the Major
League movies for a long time. Was kind of a

(29:42):
star in his own right, just in the Miller Lte commercials,
sitting in the back of section four to twenty two
when he had a great line, I must be in
the front row. It was just awesome, funny guy, great broadcaster.
He was inducted in the Baseball's Hall of Fame, the
Ford Frick Award, which also Dave Niehouse won and as
well inductive that's the broadcasters wing of the Baseball Hall

(30:04):
of Fame. And Uker, if you ever heard him call it,
he did a terrific job. I mean, the comedy and
all that was one thing. His quick wit and all
of those things. But he called a great game, and
baseball is such a different beast in terms of calling it.
It's storytelling, it's you know, and he had the ability to.
I mean, I you know, Vince Gully is so much

(30:26):
the gold standard. And I mean for us, for people
like me that grew up. You know, my first heard
of the voice of Dave knee House in nineteen seventy seven,
and Dave was the best at it in my mind
because he's our guy. But Uker was great. I mean,
it's just it's a difference. It's a different play by play,
it's a different style and done right on the radio.

(30:47):
It's perfection. We're blessed we have Rick and Rick Riz
is really, really, really good. I think Rick Riz, Rick
Rizz hasn't got his due. And I think because he
was behind Dave all those years, I think Rick should
be very much considered for that Frick Award as well
at some point in his career. But I digress. Yeah,
so sad news from about Bob Youker passing away today.

(31:07):
I want to touch you on Gus Williams a little
bit though. That's you know, like you get to that
point you're in your in your life where you start
losing parts of your childhood and it's it's hard, it's sobering,
it's a lot of things that aren't positive. But then
you're left with some great memories. And for us here
in Seattle, up until the Seahawks, all due respect Sounderstorm,

(31:31):
up until the Seahawks in twenty thirteen season in Super
Bowl forty eight, up until then, we you know, we
had one championship and that was the Sonics in nineteen
seventy nine. I was in eighth grade when that happened
to this day, still my favorite team in so many
different ways, but that that starting lineup of that championship team,

(31:54):
four fifths of it is gone. You know, we lost
Gus Williams, we lost Dennis Johnson, we lost Annie Shelton,
and we've lost and lost John Johnson. And you know,
that was such an iconic group of athletes in our
city and they're so important to what our city is.
Gus's number was retired and and rightfully so. And once

(32:14):
we do get the NBA back, we'll have those retired
numbers up there in the rafters. You know, Paul Silas
was I'd say the sixth man. Freddy Brown was kind
of the same. We had two six men in Seattle
back then and that championship team Paul Silas. God, maybe
even three if you want to include Wally, but the
rotation Paul Silas and uh was was part of that

(32:36):
with Fred Brown and Wally Walker. Paul Silas, who was
a huge part of that team also is now no
longer with us too, So uh it's sad. I was
a huge Dennis Johnson fan. I kind of walked around
and namred with him. He's an assistant coach with the
Blazers for a year when I was down there, and
I just kind of walked mind every day. He was
like a sports hero to me. But Gus was different.
The Wizard was different. He had an ability and I

(32:59):
mean their kids in this area that were my age
and right around my age to this day. I mean
you wanted to be Guess Williams. He was a point
guard that scored. And you know basketball has evolved in
so many ways over the years, right, Yes, like it's
just a different game than it used to be.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
Yeah, we see it like every decade or so.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Yeah. Are you a one? Are you a two? Are
you a three? Are you a wing? Are you you
know what? Are you a post player. You know, back
then it was you had two guards. One was a
point guard who handled the ball, the other guy was
a shooting guard who shot the ball. Then you had
a small forward who was shorter of the two forwards
in this case was Johnny Johnson. Then you had a
power forward, bigger guy this case was Lonnie Shelton. And

(33:39):
then he had a center in Jack Sikmund, and Sickmund
was probably more of a forward by trade, but he
was the tallest guy out there. That's that's what a
lineup looked like. Gus handled the ball and scored and
did it in remarkable ways. Could shoot, could drive, could dribble.
He was just he was so much fun to want.
Big personality, And I've always talked about this with the Sonics,
that team, you know, and I think I don't think soft.

(34:02):
He's trying to get Lenny on at some point, and
thank goodness he's still with us. But that team, the
personalities were massive. I oftentimes I compare, and I think
most people that were around for both and watch both
would agree. The seventy nine Sonics and the Super Bowl
champion Seahawks the twenty thirteen season are remarkably similar remarkably similar.

(34:26):
The personalities were enormous. I remember Paul Silas. When I
first got to this market, we used to have Paul
Silas on all the time in our I remember doing
interviews back at the old station, at the old studios
with the lease. We'd had Paul on a number of times.
I got to know him a little bit over the
years when I was covering the NBA, and Paul would
tell the stories about how these guys their practices were

(34:47):
harder in nineteen seventy nine than most of their games.
They were so competitive, they were so uber competitive. And
didn't we hear that about the Seahawks all the time,
like how the practices what you know, going against you know,
against Russ and that second that legion of Boom going
against you know, Russ and that offense. They were more intense,

(35:09):
and they were more they were more intense and harder
competition than some of the games they had that year.
That's what the Sonics were. And the personalities were enormous.
Gus had the stones to sit on an entire season.
It screwed his team like was be honest, it killed
the team that next year. But he did it like
he did it in fact, we had a couple guys.
I mean, Marvin Webster forced his way out of here.

(35:29):
He didn't win a championship with these guys the game
and a racer, but though they were the precursor to
Gary and to Sean and and that group of Sonics
in the mid to late nineties. But yeah, it's a
sad day, man, Gus Williams. We all lost a little
bit of our childhood today that remember that team from
back in nineteen seventy nine. So sad day for all
of us. And yeah, too many of those guys are
no longer with us, which is unfortunate because the ideal

(35:51):
thing would be when the NBA does come back here
and whatever it is two years, three years from now,
whenever the NBA does tip off again, whoever we still
have with us from that team needs to be honored
early and well at that climate Plagerina, and they should be.
You know, we still Fred still here, Lenny's still around,

(36:11):
Jack still around, while he's still around, But we need
to honor that team because that team was special and
should always hold a really really special place in all
of our hearts here in Seattle as well. So rest
in peace, Wizard rest and peace. Man. We all miss
you and miss watching you play. We'll take a break,
come back. Jordan Moore at Sounders more than soccer on
on my mind to talk with Jordan about We'll do

(36:33):
that coming up next now.

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Speaker 2 (38:34):
Welcome to our number two, Jess McIntire. You in faster
with you, Jesh, you're ready for a little sports book tomorrow.
Always you're gonna talk to some people at the windows.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
We U.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
She's getting Jordan Morris on for us right now. He
is going join us here in just a second. Lots
to get into with him soccer and non soccer. To
be honest with you, we'll do that in just a second.
Two o'clock. We're gonna check in with our guy Gary Parrish.

(39:15):
Our first visit of the year with Gary's going to
be six seven years or so. We've got Gary on
every week. Love talking to him, he joins us. Talks
to us about all things college basketball. Just what is
about a month and a half, two months from now.
We're getting closer about two months from selection Sunday for
the field of sixty eight. Along the ways, Jordan with us.

Speaker 4 (39:39):
He is calling in momentarily.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
Okay, perfect, okay, So we'll get Jordan Morris to say, yeah,
well we'll check in with him. Coming up our man
Corbyn Smith. We lied. We told Corbyn he has the
day off. Are the week we were kind of we're
saying goodbye to him after last week. We lied, we're
gonna have mont one thirty. Were gonna talk about.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
Seahawks, much good stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, we're gonna talk about the Seahawks offensive coordinator search
that's coming up here at one thirty. I am not
as infactuated with that, I guess as some are, but
it's an important hire. The Clint Kubiak one seems to
be the one that's getting a lot of attention as interesting.
They talked today Chris and Greg Bell today talk to

(40:18):
the athletic beat writer for the Detroit Lions about Hank Frayley,
who's the offensive line coach. He's been talked about a
little bit as well for that job. It sounds like
he may go if Ben Johnson gets a head coaching job.
With Ben Johnson to be at oc with him, he
wouldn't be a play caller and is not a play
caller right now as well. So we'll check in with
all that stuff coming up at one point thirty with
Corbyn smith Hey joining us on the Beacon Plumbing hotline

(40:40):
right now. Happy to have him on for a variety
of reasons, but it's been a while since we've talked
to him on the radio. Here from your Seattle Sounders, FC,
Jordan Morris joins, just right now, Hi Jordan, how are you?

Speaker 6 (40:52):
I'm good?

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Ian, How I'm good, buddy, I'm good. Things are going
well over at Sounders. When do you guys leave for Spain?
By the way, is this weekend?

Speaker 8 (41:01):
We head out this weekend? Yeah, for for a couple
of weeks for preseason, So yeah, looking forward to that.
And it's gonna be a good gonna be a good year.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
The the year seems to be getting better and better
with all the additions to the lineup. Let's let's start
first with what what Jordan Morris thinks about bringing in
a guy that I think you're pretty good friends with him,
Paul Ariola. What was your reaction when you heard that one?

Speaker 8 (41:25):
Yeah, I'm pumped. Paul's Paul is one of my really
good friends, and you know, off the field, obviously, it's
exciting for for me and you know, Christian, we've played
with him for a long time and he's a great guy.
So to bring in another good guy in the locker
room and a friend of ours is exciting, But then
I think what he brings on the field is going
to help us a ton. He's able to play a

(41:47):
bunch of different positions. He's tactically really smart, you know,
works works so hard. Is a team first guy, and
he's a guy that you love to have on your team.
And I remember a lot of guys saying they didn't
love playing against him when he was in Dallas. He
would get under people's skin. So to have that with
with us now is gonna be gonna be awesome.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
I saw his interview the other day. He said the
same thing about you guys and a couple of players specifically,
so it sounds like the feeling was mutual. He's one
of those guys you don't you hate playing against him,
but if he's on your team, you love him. It
sounds like that's the kind of guy you needed in
that locker room and on that field.

Speaker 8 (42:21):
Yeah, exactly. I remember Smett saying, you know, maybe we
need to get a little bit meaner as a team
on the field. So Paul is not a mean guy,
but he'll bring that attitude when he when he steps
uh steps on the field, which is which is good
for US.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Christian said that the other day too, that you guys
are almost you almost have too good a locker room.
Like I've never heard that before, but I thought it
was interesting when when Christian roll Dan said that, like, hey,
we've got this, really our locker room's almost too good.
Did you need a little bit of an edge? Did
you do you guys need a little bit of an
edge out there?

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (42:49):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
I think so.

Speaker 8 (42:51):
I think you can just add a spark in different
areas and Paul is a guy that can provide that
for sure, and so we'll see how that, you know,
how we progress with that with that this year. But
it's also a great thing that a good locker room
like we do. I mean, you look around, there's just
a bunch of guys that want to want to win trophies.
So it's gonna be gonna be an exciting year.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Jordan Morris joining US, he's US. Ferira also added as well,
what does he bring to the team.

Speaker 8 (43:18):
Yeah, he brings a ton obviously, another guy that you
know played with the national team, so I know he's
well and he brings a lot. You know, you see
the goalscoring pedigree he has the national team and in Dallas,
and obviously really good in front of goal, so you know,
a big problem of ours last year when need to
score more goals. So bringing a proven goal scorer like
that will be uh will be helpful for for the group.

(43:40):
But he's also really comfortable kind of dropping underneath getting
on the ball, similar to Albert, really good at playing
those those final passes. So obviously for a player like
me who likes to get him behind and stretch teams,
to have another player like that on the field that's
able to kind of play those final passes in behind
is exciting and he brings a lot He brings a
lot of quality in the final theay, So I'm looking

(44:01):
forward to to playing with them.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Jordan Morris joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing hot line.
Sounders in training right now, getting ready for a busy
season coming up. We'll talk about that in a second.
All the different things going on besides the MLS schedule,
exciting year for soccer fans here in this area. One
of the things it feels like and it seems to be,
is that with these additions with heyesus and with Paul,
with the returning players as well. You mentioned it scoring goals.

(44:26):
It felt like if Jordan Morris didn't score last season,
you guys were losing one nil or something along those lines.
It feels like, not only have you increased your goal
scoring potential, but there's a lot of versatility. Is that
safe to say that you have a lot of guys
that kind of met I've always thought of Christian is
a guy you can move around. I think you might
move to the wing right as well, and that you know,
I mean as opposed to being a lone striker up top.
I mean, how how versatile is it? Is that good

(44:47):
or bad? As far as you're concerned, I think it's
a good thing.

Speaker 8 (44:52):
And I think a big part of you know, the
move that we made and Craig touched on it is
having that kind of versatility to tack it to to
move people around. Paul like like I mentioned, Paul is
definitely a guy that can play a bunch of different positions. Hey,
suss I think can play across the front line, you know, Christian,
like you mentioned, we have a bunch of guys that
can play different positions. But it also allows us to

(45:14):
play different formations. You saw kind of at the end
of last year when we went to l AFC, we
had to switch to you know, play a three or
five in the back, whatever you want to call it,
and went down and got a result at l AFC.
So to be able to play different formations, to have
the depths, I think you know, you mentioned it. We
have so many games this year, so many compisitions out

(45:34):
of the depth that we do, you know, with bringing
a lot of guys back and adding some some key
pieces that can play a bunch of different positions. It's
super important, especially this year with how many games we
had coming up.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
I'm looking forward to watching Pedro de la Vega play
a little bit more. He was banged up in hamstring
or something, which is like a tricky injury like those
are never fun, and we never really saw him. What
if he's healthy and I'm assuming he will be, what
does he bring to this team because that's another big
piece at Really, you we just didn't see enough of
last year, Yeah for sure.

Speaker 8 (46:04):
I mean yeah, we all felt for for Pedro. It's
always tough coming to a new league, a new environment,
a new city, and uh and then the injuries on
top of that. So I think you saw kind of
flashes of what he can bring last year, he just
you know, unfortunately wasn't on the field as much as
as the group wanted. And I know as much as
he wanted. It was a tough year for him dealing

(46:24):
with injuries. And I've been there before. Kind of stop
start seasons are tough. When you have an injury, then
you get back on the field and you're feeling good
and another one comes, it can be it can be
really frustrating. So we felt for him. But you know,
we've seen him come in really motivated. He looks great
this preseason, like you said, another really good attacking piece
for us, and you saw those flashes last year, so

(46:45):
we're excited to see few when he brings this year.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Or joining us. You're you're a DP now designated player
what like, That's that's cool. I mean, I congratulate you
on that.

Speaker 8 (46:55):
Yeah, thank you appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (46:58):
That's like, that's a big deal.

Speaker 6 (46:59):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
I mean, that's a different deal. I mean, I don't
know if there's more pressure with that, obviously a little
more money, but uh, but that's that's a that's a
good thing for You'll see that always from a homegrown guy.

Speaker 8 (47:08):
Yeah, I know, it's it's It's always exciting for for
for my family and I and you know, I've said
it before, I don't think it changes too much. I
don't feel any more pressure. I've kind of always thought
of myself kind of playing at that level and expected
to be playing at that at that level, and you know,
so for me, it doesn't change a ton I want

(47:30):
to continue to grow in that in that leader role,
and obviously being a DP, you want to be a leader,
uh within the group. But I've always wanted to be
the guy that kind of helps the team win, scores
those goals, comes up in big moments. I've always put
that that pressure on myself to kind of you know,
quote unquote be that deep DP level. So it doesn't

(47:50):
doesn't change a ton. I. You know, Craig mentioned it
a bit in the press conference. I when I signed
my new contract, I kind of told him I thought
I deserve to be a DP and he said, you know,
maybe not yet, but what We'll put these incentives in
your contract to go prove it. And fortunately I was
able to do that over the last couple of years.
So it's exciting. But again, I don't think it changes
too much. I'm I'm you know, I'm more more motivated

(48:12):
than ever to go out and and and have a
great year and help the team win some trophies.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Jordan, you dabbled obviously over in Europe and then the
injury happened. You know, other guys have had opportunities, some leave,
some don't. I'd ask you this bigger picture question because
we talked about a lot in this town about you know,
what teams, uh, and what the franchises are willing to
do in terms of their commitment. I've kind of used
the Sounders as the gold standard in our market. They
you know, for for whatever reason, they're successful every single year.

Speaker 7 (48:41):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
But there also seems to be a commitment. I think
even more so this year when we see Jesus and
Paul and yourself and the commitments are making Rusnak getting
resigned all those things. What is it about the training
center sensational as well? I don't know how that that.
You know what Paul and others say about other ones
around the MLS, but what is it about this organization
when you talk to other people, whether it be in
the US men's national team program when you're playing with

(49:04):
and against them, or others around soccer? What is it
about the Sounders that maybe has separated them from so
many other teams.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
Yeah, I don't I don't know exactly what.

Speaker 6 (49:14):
You know, what it is.

Speaker 8 (49:15):
We have been been been successful, obviously a club that's
always pushing for for for trophies. I think the training
facility makes, you know, see I'll be an even more
desirable destination. Paul and a Seussa both said, you know
how incredible it is the step up that it is
to come here and have that, and so that's been

(49:36):
really exciting over the last last year and going into
this year. But for me, you know, I can't put
a finger exactly what it is. I think for us
having a strong core group over the last you know,
ten eight ten years, Guys that have been in in
big games, know how to win big games, know how
to win win playoff games. I've always said, we're kind
of built for for a tournament, play for for a

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kind of playoff time where a team that gets hot
at the right time and understands how to how to
win those big games. So I think having that core
group that's been together for a while and understands those
big moments has been been important. But in talking to
Paul and talking to Haeseus. You know, obviously a big
component upcoming here was that we're always competing for trophies.
We're a club that's always kind of that. That's our

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goal every single year to be in the hunt to
win MLS Cup two this year obviously try to try
to win another Champions League and then the Club World
Cup was a big drop for both of them as well.
But just the team that's always fighting and in the
hunt to win trophies and that's what everyone wants in
their career. So I think that's a big thing that
threw them here.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
Yeah, it's it's exciting times, there's no doubt for Sounders
fans and the organization as a whole. Jordan Morris with
us all right, Before I let you go, I got
to talk about your foundation because you know how important
it is for me and my family. For those who
don't know what it is, tell people about what you
and your family, your lovely wife, your phenomenal mother, Leslie.
We love Leslie Morris, one of the great people in

(51:01):
our community. Uh and uh, the retired doc as well.
What what what's the Jordan Morris Foundation all about?

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (51:10):
Well, I mean I know I text you, but again,
thanks for all your support of the foundation. Man, it
means it means a lot to us. And it's really
it's our you know, our motto or whatever you want
to call it is to educate, inspire and support kids
living with with type one diabetes. I just know for me,
growing up, I had people that I looked up to

(51:31):
that were living their dream playing professional sports with with
type one. But I was never able to talk to
them or hear their story or you know, ask my
questions bounce ideas off them. So when I turned pro
and had a little bit more of a of a platform,
you know, my myself and my family decided to start
this foundation. Like you said, my my wife, my parents
are are super helpful and in it all. And you know,

(51:54):
it's really just about outreach the kids, giving them hope inspiration.
We have different programs, have a big soccer camp every summer.
We have the Playmaker program where I meet with a
kid after every home and away game, a Type one
diabetic kid in their family, bring them on the field,
just give them a cool experience and get a get
a talk to them. And yeah, it's really just about
outreach and given hope and inspiration to these kids to

(52:16):
let them know they can accomplish whatever they want to
want to accomplish, even with Type one.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
You know the thing that jumps out and you you
kind of downplay a little bit the Playmaker Program, But
I want you to expand on that more because to me,
that's the camp is phenomenal. We've been there the last
couple of years and it's up at east Side Soccer
Club and Chance Finding. Those guys put to put it
together and help you out with it. But you speak
to the players, you're walking around with it. Every kid

(52:41):
at the camp, by the way, Jess has type one diabetes.
It's a remarkable thing to see.

Speaker 4 (52:46):
That's such a great camaraderie to bring together.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
It's a community and the kids don't feel like they're
you know, like right Jordan, they don't feel like they're different.
They're all the same there. So it's you know, a
couple hundred kids all doing a soccer camp. The Playmaker
program though, is special to me. You met with keiefer
Uh made a huge difference in his life. He just
finished his college football career. But you meet with a
kid before and after every game home and away that

(53:10):
has Type one diabetes. Where did that come from? Where
did that idea come from? And and what does it
mean to you when you can look at a young
person's eyes and tell them, hey, you can do whatever.

Speaker 8 (53:21):
Yeah, I think, yeah idea. You know, I saw some
other players around the league doing that kind of thing
with different organizations, and I thought it was really special.
You know, not only to let the kid have have
a really cool, you know experience hopefully of getting to
come to a game. A lot of the a lot
of the kids I meet have never been to a
Sounders game, so, you know, just a cool experience for

(53:42):
them and their family to come to a game, but
then just to be down on the field kind of
make it more real for them hopefully. You know, seeing
me out there playing and living out my dream is
just inspirational to them, and that's really the whole goal
of it. And when I get to get to speak
to them and you know, they're they're inspiring me, you
know to me too when when I hear their story,

(54:03):
I know exactly what they're going through. And like you
mentioned with the camp, it's just having that sense of
community is so important as a as a diabetic, just
knowing you're not the You're not going through it alone.
Other people are going through the the same thing as
you as you But yeah, the Playmaker program is definitely
my favorite thing that that we do, getting to we
expand into two meeting kids across the country after away games.

(54:25):
It's just really cool to build that community. But that's
the whole goal is when a kid hopefully takes some
some inspiration from that moment and goes out and knows that,
you know, they can accomplish whatever they they want to,
even with with type one. So it's been it's been
an awesome run so far.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
Well they do. There's there's no doubt that they do
along the way. Uh And it is inspirational and I
think for both the kids, and it's cool to hear
that it's inspirational for you as well for folks that
maybe don't understand it. Uh And and I know that,
you know, because a lot of older folks get, you know,
type two diabetes and they're not the same and you know,
or maybe someone out there is listening and they have

(55:01):
someone that they know or a child that was just
recently diagnosed with type one diabetes. What are the biggest
challenges that you face that you here, even at your
age as a professional athlete and the you know tip
top shape that you face on a daily, hourly, minute
by minute basis, Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8 (55:17):
And I always tell these kids too, like you know,
I'm not perfect my Type one. I still every day
it's so it still can be can be challenging. Like
you mentioned, I always say the toughest part of diabetes,
it's a twenty four to seven job, right. You got
to keep your but sugar in the right spot all
day or else you're not You're not feeling great, whether
it's going too low or too high. The amount of

(55:39):
times I wake up in the middle of the night
because my my deck calms beeping and my but sugar
is not not in a great spot. So it really
is a twenty four to seven job. You always are
kind of thinking about it. You can never really escape
that that feeling of trying to make sure you're in
a good zone because if it gets too high or
too low, you just you just don't feel right. And

(56:00):
for me as an athlete, and I think that the
the most challenging part is before before a game, all
I really want to do is focus on the game,
focus on how I can be the best player that
I can be to help the team go out and
win the game. But really, to be honest, the only
thing I'm focused on before the game is making sure
my blood siggers in a good spot because if it's not,

(56:22):
you know, it definitely affects how I play on the field.
So it takes a lot of your attention away from
maybe what you want to be focusing on. But before
a game, once I step on the field, the whole
focus is on the game and you kind of forget about.

Speaker 2 (56:36):
It a little bit.

Speaker 8 (56:37):
But I would say the toughest part is, yeah, just
just that that pre game making sure your butcherers in
the in the right spot. Because I'm sure Keifer would
say the same thing. But you do the exact same
thing on two different days, and your bud suger wants
to act in different ways for whatever reason. So it
can be a challenge, but just gotta got to push
through it.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
And you do a great job and your great your
great role model for so many young folks that have it.
I don't know if you know this. The crack and
traded for a player who's actually made a massive impact.
Cappol Coco has type one diabetes. One of a handful
of guys in the NHL and actually has Celiac too,
so he's got the double burden of that. But we'll
have to get together and do something.

Speaker 8 (57:15):
I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, that's
really cool.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
Yeah. Copple's got a Copple Cockle's got type one diabetes
and he talks about all the time. I don't know
if any of the guys in the MLS habit as well,
but he'll bang a guy in the corner. They'll get
ready for a face off and it's like it kind
of stick cap and stuff and say, hey, how you
doing good? How you doing, like kind of joke about
blood sugar and things like that. It definitely is a community,
isn't it. It really is, for sure, for sure, for sure.

Speaker 8 (57:39):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Well, listen, thank you so much. You were an inspiration
to our family and so many others. And it's I
just love being doing any little part and we're gonna
keep doing that. Man. We got the golf tournament coming up.
We're gonna announce the date tomorrow. So we got another
golf tournament coming up this summer to help support you.
Helenski's Hope and Avery Huffman, and it's odd beer is
not the best thing for blood sugar and type one diabetes.

(58:01):
With our friends in Georgetown make the mayor IPA and
we raise a ton of money to help you guys
with your foundation and help that playmaker program in the
soccer camp. So we're gonna do that again, Jordan, I
promise you this year and moving forward.

Speaker 8 (58:11):
All right, awesome, awesome, Thank you so much, man. We
really appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
All right, take care, We'll talk soon, all right you
Jase yet there you go. That's Jordan Morris. We'll take
a break. Come back. Our guy Corbyn Smith talking about
the Seahawks offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
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Now with Corbyn Smith.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
Dere's he and.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
He's kind of a little bonus Corbyn Smith episode this week.
He joins us right now big thanks to sold by
Jim sold by Jim Twams dot com. Hello Corbyn, how
are you. I'm good. I have a long time no chat.
It's been seven days. I told the story earlier for
people just joining us, so it's funny, Like just said yesterday,
She's like, we're going through the show blah blah blah.

(59:17):
And I reached out to Corbin. I said, I thought
we told Corbyn. We we didn't, you know, we were
not we were done with him, but you know we
weren't gonna, you know, bother him every single week anymore.
But man, if he wants to come on, I'm all in, man,
if you want to come on, and I'd love to
talk offensive coordinator because I know you're keeping track of that.
And she said yeah, he said he liked it. And
I said, well, here, we are perfect and I love
having you on. Anytime that we can get you on,

(59:39):
we will. Man. I appreciate that. How are you, sir?
I'm great, man.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
You know, I'm kind of trying to enjoy a little
bit of the off season, but at the same time, like,
there isn't an off season in this.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Job, So let's talk about the offensive coordinator. Is Clint
Kubiak the leader in the clubhouse.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
Right now to say that he is? Though I do think,
based on discussions that I had this morning, that there's
still a lot of interest in Hank Frailey, the offensive
line coach for the Detroit Lions. The issue that the
Seahawks are dealing with right now is that they can't
get a second interview with him right now because the
Lions are still in the playoffs and they're playing this
upcoming weekend against the Washington Commanders. So if they want

(01:00:23):
to still potentially consider him, they're gonna have to wait
this out a little bit longer. And then that risks
the possibility that another team could sweep in and hire
Clint Kubiak. So it's like Mike McDonald was saying in
his end the season press conference, there's a balancing act here.
We don't want to rush into this hire, but you

(01:00:43):
also want to get it done so you don't risk
losing a top candidate.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
All right, let's let's let's talk a little bit. I
don't think we even mentioned we might have last week.
But I don't think you and I release you've written
about it and talked about it, tweeted about, et cetera,
but we haven't on this show talked much about Clint Kubiak.
Let's go ahead and do that. Kind of middle of
the pack in terms of offensive numbers last season, right,
But what do you think the Seahawks see in him?

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
I think he is a fantastic play caller. And you
and I've been through this before when we look at
football teams, and you have to when you look at stats,
that's only part of the picture, and sometimes you really
get to dig deep into circumstances. And if you look
at the New Orleans Saints this past season, the first
two games of the year, they scored at least forty
points in both those games, I mean, this offense looks

(01:01:30):
like a top five offense. And a lot of people
may be wondering, well, what happened after that? Well, just
look at their injured reserve list and you get a
pretty good idea what was going on with this team.
Ryan Ramchick was not even on the roster at the
beginning of the season. He missed the whole year. Their
best offensive lineman one of the best tackles in the
league missed the whole season. Then they lose their top

(01:01:52):
three wide receivers by week seven, Chris Olave being one
of them that went down with another concussion, a significant one.
Gret Carr by that point was throwing to fourth and
fifth string receivers. They were down to third string tackles,
They had backups playing in the interior of the offensive line,
and then Alvin Kamara and Derek Carr went down late

(01:02:12):
in the season like they just could not keep anyone healthy.
This was a real life mass unit, and yet Kubiak
was able to still have them ranked fourteenth in rushing
offense by the end of the season. And if you
watched the games late, they had a chance to knock
the Buccaneers out of the playoffs in Week eighteen because
Spencer Rattler was playing a lot better football the last

(01:02:34):
few weeks. So I think that that is a testament
to what Clint Kubiak can do. And I think the
other thing that Mike McDonald is probably really excited about
with him. He comes from that Shanahan Kubiak coaching tree,
and if you look at the personnel groupings, he ran
as much twelve personnel with mardel tight ends and twenty
one personnel with two running backs as any coaching staff

(01:02:56):
in the NFL this last year. The teams that were
up there with New Orleans for the percentages, Detroit and
Baltimore were two of them. And that's what they want
this offense to emulate. So I think there's a lot
of things that they're really excited about with him.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
What jumped out at you about his play calling.

Speaker 6 (01:03:12):
He's a really good play caller at establishing space for receivers.
If you've watched him when he was in San Francisco
as a pass game coordinator a couple of years ago.
He does a great job of getting his star receivers
and even his complimentary receivers into position where the quarterback
can get the football to him in space and they
can do damage. That was something New Orleans did early

(01:03:33):
in the year until a bunch of their receivers went down.
In twenty twenty one, Kirk Cousins threw thirty three touchdown
passes with Kubiak as the offensive coordinator in Minnesota, Justin
Jefferson went for over sixteen hundred receiving yards. They didn't
make the playoffs that year. But that was a pretty
dynamic passing game, so he's got a history of being
able to get that going. He runs a lot of

(01:03:55):
play action, and of course, coming from the Shanahan coaching tree,
he believes in the run game as well a lot
of zone concepts. So that really would be what you're
getting with Quint Kubiak.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
What would entice him to come to Seattle.

Speaker 6 (01:04:11):
The star power that this football team has, and listen,
if you're somebody that wants to go a different direction
at quarterback, I think Quint Kubiak would be eager to
work with Gino Smith because look what he did. Like
I said, look what he did with Kirk Cousins from
twenty nineteen to twenty twenty one as both a quarterback
coach and an offensive coordinator. Cousins had one year he
through thirty five touchdown passes. He threw thirty three this

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season he was the coordinator. Brock Purty threw thirty one
touchdowns in twenty twenty three with him as the passing
game coordinator. He had a big, big mark on his
improvement that season. I think they missed him some in
San Francisco this year. He is a guy that likes
working with pocket passers who can get the football out
and throw it down field. Gino Smith checks those boxes off.

(01:04:56):
So I think he would just look at what Seattle's
got in house, and I think he'd be really excit
considering what he did in New Orleans with an offense,
and I don't think has the talent that Seattle has,
what he did before the injuries struck, what he did
in Minnesota with that quarterback and receiving group. I think
he'd be really excited about the players they have in house.
It could be a guy that could maximize that talent,

(01:05:16):
which hadn't happened the last two years.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yeah, Corpus Smith joining us. I'm bullish on what Seattle
has offensively in terms of skill. I know that, you know.
I mean, Gino's Gino and I'm done kind of debating
him for a while. But listen, you have a quarterback
that say he was, say he's middle of the pack
in the NFL. Okay, but you've got DK Metcalf, You've
got JSN, You've got I think you can what we

(01:05:39):
saw a little bit from McIntosh. I think you could
say you've got three really good running backs as well. Yeah,
Barnard got better as a tight end as a tight
end went on throughout the year. I will see what
they do with Noah Fan if they move on and
buy him out, whatever. But there there are definite some
good definitely some good pieces. Let's say, Abe Lucas is
finally healthy, maybe Charles Cross hits the weight room, fix

(01:06:01):
that interior of the offensive line. I think it would
be intriguing. I like the fact that guy was in
the NFC West, to be honest with you as well,
so he understands what he's going against, you know, with
what they've got going on with the Rams and the
Cardinals and even the team he used to work for.

Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
Yeah, that's another reason it's enticing. And listen, he's thirty
seven years old. He's not an old coach, but it
feels like he's been in the NFL for forty years.
He's been in the league for eleven. But he was
a really good player. He was a safety ironically enough,
at Colorado State, played FC or FBS football and then

(01:06:34):
immediately got right into coaching. I mean, this guy is
like Mike McDonald. He is cut from the same cloth
where these two guys are incredibly a high IQ football
nerse they live, eat, breathe football. I think that Koobiak
was born, came out of the womb with a football
in his hands, like That's the kind of guy we're
talking about here. Mike McDonald wants assistance like that. And

(01:06:55):
I'm not saying that Ryan Grubb was not, you know,
passionate about the g or whatever. But I wonder if,
based in the conversation I had, if that might have
been a disconnect between these guys too, that maybe Grub
wasn't quite the same level in terms of just how
much football is entrenched in his DNA. You would not
have that problem with Klint Kubiak at all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
All Right, fre Hank Frayley, as you mentioned, they can't
They're going to wait for him. Does he come as
a package deal with Antoine Randall Ellen? What if Ben
Johnson gets a head coaching job, would he possibly want
to go there or stay in Detroit?

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
There are so many different different avenues that this could
go with Hank Frayley, Because you mentioned Ben Johnson. If
Johnson gets a head coaching job, it would seem natural
for Freiley to be the offensive coordinator. But what I've
been told is that he actually would maybe have more
interest in teaming up with Aaron Glenn, their defensive coordinator
who's getting head coaching dibbs, because he would get to

(01:07:50):
be the play caller if he teams up with Ben Johnson.
Ben Johnson's the one that's calling plays. So is that
really going to be anything more than a lateral move
in terms of title for him going to another team
with Ben Johnson? My understanding is the Seahawks as well
as whatever team hires Aaron Glenn, those would be the
two that he would be the most individually intrigued by

(01:08:12):
because he would get that step forward being a play caller.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Antoine Randell, where does he fit in?

Speaker 7 (01:08:18):
Randallll?

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
I've been told is one of the coaches that Frayley
has been vetting to be his passing game coordinator, because look,
he's an offensive line guy play in the NFL eleven years.
Run game is his bread and butter. For him to
be successful as an offensive coordinator, though, he's gonna need
somebody that really understands the passing game. RANDALLLL is a
rising star in the coaching ranks. You look at the

(01:08:40):
receivers they've developed there in Detroit. Even when guys are heard.
It seems like they just pull guys off the practice
squad and they produce, and that is a testament to
Antoine Randawell. So he is the one name I have
specifically heard among others that are apparently out there that
Frayley's been vetting. But Randal Well is probably somebody that
comes in the package deal with Frayley if he becomes
an no see somewhere.

Speaker 7 (01:09:01):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
You know what you've done now, sir, is like you've
said a precedent when Jess just called and said, hey,
you know Corbyn, can you come on Now that she's
done that, don't think we're not going to do this
again over the next few weeks, sir, we might have
to call you again. Never.

Speaker 6 (01:09:12):
My phone is always ready. Ian.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I love it, I love it. Appreciate your time, buddy.
Tell people where they can find all the work you're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:09:20):
As always, you can find me an ex and Blue
Sky at Corbin Smith NFL Locked on Seahawks five days
a week, on YouTube wherever you listen to your podcast,
and si dot com slash NFL slash Seahawks. You can
see a eighteen one hundred word piece on what to
expect from Clint Kobiak and why he might be the
best fit for the Seahawks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
Perfect. Go check it out. That's why we love Corbyn,
love having him on. Go support the work that he does.
And we'll talk soon, sir, Thank you, thanks you take
care man. That is Corbyn Smith joining us. We will
take a break, come back. How about this, we'll get
to a little bit of a how do we want
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We'll meet in the middle.

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We'll do it for real.

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National Hockey League five o'clock Drop the puck four to
thirty pre game. The captain, Mike Benton will be in
Network Central for you. Getting ready to go. This may
not be the game that the krack and want to
take that first period off, as they have done a

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few times this season. The Jets in their last ten
games when scoring the first goal, unbeaten or have a
point at least or eighth to two. They're good. First
team this year to hit thirty win mark in the NHL.
Second season in a row, they've done that. I mean,
the news really isn't good when I talk about Winnipeg Jets.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
To be honest with you, yeah good, it's just really
not great.

Speaker 2 (01:11:16):
The Kraken have trailed in each of their ten previous
meetings with Winnipeg. I don't like that either. The only
other team they've done that against is Edmonton. They've done
that as well. But they do play close games, which
is good. In the last seven meetings, all seven games
the last seven meetings have been decided by one goal.

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Kraken are two to two and three, so in the
last seven they've got points in for the last seven
against Winnipeg, albeit either overtime shootout wins or shootout losses
along the way. So they've played this team close. They've
played them tough, but you just don't want to fall
behind early again tonight against Connor Hellibuck in the Winnipeg
Jets game. Game time tonight, five o'clock four thirty. We

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will drop the puck or I have the pregame show
for you on KJR on your home for the Cracky
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kill the music, if you could just for a second,
I have one other thing I want to get to
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gonna do a little bit more tomorrow on Friday. Because
I tease it last week, we will. We I'm about
ninety nine point nine percent sure we're gonna announce the
date for the twenty twenty five Mayor of Maple Valley
Open for the golf tournament tomorrow on the radio. Like, yeah,

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I think we will. I'm pretty sure we're gonna do that.
In fact, I'm basically positive we're gonna do that tomorrow.
And as everybody knows this is the this will be
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and we'll do a little bit more tomorrow. But today
is a tough day for the Lewinsky family, as it
has been for the last eight years. Doesn't get easier
along the way. Seven years, I should say seven years
ago today, Tyler Halensky died by suicide. Found that out

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in Pullman. It was just a horrific situation and it
took everyone by surprise shock. It also put a face
on mental health and mental health awareness, one that certainly
we never would have liked to share for me, Jess, others.
We've gotten to know the Lewinsky family, and I tell

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Mark and Kim this all the time. I wish I
never got to know them outside of just knowing that
Tyler had great parents that supported him. But we've devoted
a lot of time, obviously and effort to try to
raise money for a Linsky's Hope. But I just I
bring that up because as we get ready for the
golf tournament tomorrow, the beer in the fall, remember why
we do it for the three foundations and they they

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always want people to remind you, this is a good
day to check in on people. Make sure everybody's okay.
If you have some friends, family members that maybe you're
concerned about today's day, check in in the memory of
Tyler to see, hey, are you okay?

Speaker 4 (01:14:22):
You know, and you're and the people around you too.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Yeah, and just do that, like whoever's around you, whoever
you are close with, it's okay to not be okay.
It's okay to ask if you're okay. So in memory
of Tyler seven years ago today, just remember that, Just
remember that today's a good day to kind of check
in on people a little bit as we remember the
remember that day in twenty eighteen that was so difficult

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for so many people on the way. And that's again
why we do the golf, That's why we do the beer,
and that's why the Lynsky Hope Foundation exists because they
do want to support people. They've got a huge year
ahead of us. We'll get Marker kim on very very soon,
maybe tomorrow if not tomorrow very soon to talk about
what they've got going on. But just remember today's day,
today's the data to talk to people, to ask and

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check in. All right, in memory of town. Okay, we'll
take a break, come back when we come back. Our
first visit of the year with my man Gary Parrish
from CBS Sports Inside College Basketball I on College Basketball
Top twenty five and one at cbssports dot com. We'll
talk to him about college hoops, our first visit of
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the first time. Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
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Speaker 7 (01:17:12):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:12):
I love hearing the music. Love hearing that open. Yeah
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for another year. I don't even know how I was
trying to think today, how many years we've been doing this,
Gary Parrish. I think we're going on six or seven

(01:17:36):
at least I know it was pre pandemic because then
we had a little thing called the pandemic, didn't have
a tournament that year, and then here we are again
in twenty twenty five. Welcome back. How are you.

Speaker 7 (01:17:47):
I'm wonderful. I always appreciate you guys in inviting me on.

Speaker 9 (01:17:50):
You know, if you would have told me or just
asked me rather how many years I would have said
three or four, it would not have occurred to me.

Speaker 7 (01:17:57):
That it was that long time. Time flies when you
have I guess somebody told me that when I was
a kid. I think it does.

Speaker 2 (01:18:03):
This is and for folks that are new, we've done this,
as I said, for many years now, and Jess Ben
will attest to this, and my old producer Kevin Shockey
said the same thing. We're not a college basketball hotbed
in the Northwest.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:16):
We have our ups and downs or ebbs and flows.
Sometimes Washington Peaks gets to the tournament. We're all excited
Washington State last year with Kyle Smith and company. But
this is the segment that even if you're a casual
college basketball fan, Jess, what do you always tell me
you get fired up for college basketball?

Speaker 4 (01:18:31):
Absolutely? Here Gary Parrish makes me fired up for a
college basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:18:36):
Yeah, well that's nice to hear.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
Again.

Speaker 9 (01:18:40):
I'm aware that the sport I primarily cover is a
niche sport for most of America. Like when you are
in an NFL city, you know the NFL is is king.
But I love coming on and appreciate.

Speaker 7 (01:18:50):
You guys having me.

Speaker 2 (01:18:51):
But before we get going, can I ask you a
question is absolutely, sir?

Speaker 7 (01:18:56):
Why didn't you tell me Jalen Wells out of Washington State?

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Okay, awesome, Okay, here's the thing. There's two things we
were going to talk about today before we even get
to the college basketball your top twenty five and one
and kind of give people one on one because the
other part about this is this is also our start
of people getting ready for their brackets and everything else
is which makes March madness great. Well, I think somebody
should have told Kyle Smith, who didn't start him for
the first, you know, sixty percent of the games last

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season until he realized that, hey, the kid from D
two's pretty damn good. He for people know Gary's base
out of Memphis and the Grizzlies. And there's a couple
of rookies here. One guy's name Zachiady, two time College
Basketball Player of the Year, who's had a solid start
right to his career, have been solid dunked, although it
maybe didn't count against All Wemby last night. But Jalen Wells,

(01:19:41):
is he not the leading candidate right now for NBA
Rookie the Year. Yes.

Speaker 9 (01:19:46):
Sam Bessini, my former colleague who now works for the
athletic New York Times, does a weekly rookie rankings, and
right now his leading candidate for NBA Rookie of the
Year is Jalen Wells, the second round pick out of
Washington State, the former Division two player, the thirty ninth
pick of the twenty twenty five NBA draft. It's a

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wonderful story. He's starting for the Grizzlies. He as of yesterday,
was leading all rookies in points per game. Even more
than that, he's taking on tough defensive assignments, like he's
guarding Jason Tatum one night, James Harden the next, Anthony
Edwards the next. The Grizzlies right now are twenty six
and fifteen alone and third in the Western Conference, a

(01:20:26):
legitimate contender, seventh best odds to win the NBA title.
And they're starting two rookies. One of home is is
a guy who was the third leading scorer for a
seventh seed at Washington State less than a year ago.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
It's pretty wild, and I don't know if you've had
a chance to interviewing that. He's a great young man,
like just humble, and I mean, he is going Memphis
is going to love him for years. I mean, and
I just I couldn't be happier for the guy. I mean,
it's just it's a great story. It's also what college
sports can still be about. You don't have to be
a five star, you don't have to be a top
fifty guy in college football or basketball. Sometimes guys develop late.

(01:21:02):
Jalen's a great example of that. Gary. There's still good
stories out there in college sports, and there's a.

Speaker 9 (01:21:08):
Real lesson there that if I were a college coach,
I would be hammering home to all of my players
who have professional aspirations. One of my favorite things about
the Kentucky basketball team that won a national championship under
John Calipari twenty twelve is that Anthony Davis and Michael
kid Gilchris were the number one and number two picks

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in that subsequent NBA draft, and they were fourth and
fifth at Kentucky in shot attempt per game. It doesn't
matter NBA people don't care if you score. I mean, yeah,
if you can do it like Kevin Durant, that's awesome.
But more than anything, they want to recognize that you
have the ability to do something that they need people
to do in their league. Can you take the other

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team's best perimeter score out of the game or make
things hard for him, then we got a job for you.
Can you knock down corner threes at six six or taller? Okay,
we got a job for you. And so Jalen Wells
was not an All American. He was not Washington State's
leading scorer, even second leading scorer, but he showed enough
at six foot eight to make the Grizzlies say, this

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guy can play a role for us. We need a
wingless size who can knock down threes alongside John Moran,
Jaren Jackson and Desmond Bank. Let's try this guy. And
it's worked out beautifully. And if I were a college
coach again, I'd be hammering home that to my players.
You want to play in the NBA, you want to
be the rookie of the year. You don't need to
leave my team in scoring. You need to impact winning,

(01:22:40):
be a great teammate, and show that you can do
something that they need you to do at that next level.
You don't need to do everything. If you can do everything,
then you can be Lebron James. Most people aren't going
to be that. Youve got to be able to do
one thing well or a.

Speaker 7 (01:22:52):
Couple things well.

Speaker 9 (01:22:53):
Jalen Wells proved he could do that Washington State and
now he's doing an NBA again. Wonderful start.

Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Gary Perry Shorning is from brought to you by I
Know Why Brewing Okay, CBS Sports, cbsports dot Com, and
of course on College Basketball Podcast with Matt Norlander. Fantastic stuff.
And you can watch him on Inside College Basketball because
he's seiorly on there every night late at night on TV,
although not as late out here from the West coast
for us. One more non college basketball question, just college
in general. Last time we had you on was a
few months ago. We were talking about what the pack

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the new PAC twelve may look like. First of all,
it's going to look like a hell of a basketball conference.
We know that. We can see what Utah State's doing.
Notwithstanding the loss last night at UNLV. Who U and
LV could be that other team that comes into the
NEWPAC twelve when it's all said and done. What's the
latest on Memphis or even too Land, But Memphis, I
know you're you're a lot closer to down there and
what they may or may not do.

Speaker 9 (01:23:41):
Obviously, if Memphis wanted to be a member of that league,
they could have done that months ago they were presented
with the opportunity and they passed in part because to
lead the AAC it was going to cost in excess
of twenty million dollars and Memphis, frankly just doesn't have
that kind of cash laying around.

Speaker 7 (01:23:57):
It could have been negotiated.

Speaker 9 (01:23:59):
I think it was possible, but they sort of dismissed
it out of hand, like this doesn't make financial sense
for us, so we can't do it. But there's a
real thought out there in the industry that Memphis made
it known to the PAC twelve. Hey, go get your
TV deal. Let's see what that looks like, and then
circle back with us. Come back and let's talk about
what you believe a TV deal with us would look
like specifically, and maybe we could have some conversations about

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you could.

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
Help us pay that exit fee to get out of
the AAC. Maybe this is.

Speaker 9 (01:24:28):
Something we can talk about again. And so there's some
thought that those conversations will happen at some point. Personally,
I hope they do. As a Memphian, as a Memphis alum,
I like it when the Tigers are playing football games
and basketball games against comparable athletic departments and that's really
not happening in the AAC, but it could happen in
the new PAC twelve.

Speaker 7 (01:24:48):
So I hope we circle back and get a deal done.
But right now, like we're sort of in a holding pattern.

Speaker 9 (01:24:54):
I think the next thing you'll hear is that the
PAC twelve is close to reaching an agreement on media
rights deal that gives it more money than you probably thought,
or some skeptics thought they were going to get several
months ago. And then the next step will be, now,
who do they find to be the next All Sports member?

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Is it Memphis, is it UNLV, is it somebody else?
I personally hope it's Memphis, But those are the things
that still have to be determined.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Gary Perrys shointing US. Okay, college basketball, let's get to
it first and foremost, we'll talk about speaking of the
new landscape. Let's talk about the new landscape. I went
to Purdue Washington last night, you know, boiler up, got
my boiler Maker sweatshirt on. Was having fun there, much
of the chagrin of many people I ran into nevertheless,
and that's a family thing for us, with daughter and

(01:25:42):
our future son in law. But anyway, but we're they're
having fun. It was odd to look on the floor
and see Big ten on the floor at Alaska Airlines
a Rena heck Evanson pavilion. It was odd to see,
you know, a former PAC twelve network crew doing the
game with Don McLain across the way, with Big Ten
saying on the cameras. Odd to see that group of

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Purdue players in Seattle for a conference game. And then
I saw what Mick Cronin said. Now, this isnt Mick
Cronan complaining about his team being soft. That's a whole
different ballgame. But Mick Cronin talking about these seven and
twenty miles and the hours his team has traveled just
over the last seven days. What are you hearing from
people in the new The Big twelve is not as

(01:26:26):
much like that with because it's kind of more regional.
What are you hearing about, Whether it's Stanford going to
the ACC, cal the ACC, or specifically these West Coast
teams playing in the new Big ten.

Speaker 7 (01:26:38):
Nobody likes it.

Speaker 9 (01:26:39):
Nobody's enjoying the extra travel and all the time away
from home. But my thing is sort of like the
country didn't get bigger, Like we knew what we were doing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
We knew where We.

Speaker 9 (01:26:49):
Knew where California was, we knew where Oregon was, we
knew where New Jersey is, we know where Flarida is.
And once you join a conference with schools in these locations,
you're gonna have to go to these locations. And so
what's interesting is when the basketball teams and the football
teams are complaining like they're complaining from private playings largely,
you know, wait till it's the soccer teams and the

(01:27:11):
volleyball teams complaining during a connection in Salt Lake City,
complaining after they got stuck in Minneapolis, complaining after they're
you know, stuck on the tarmac in Atlanta.

Speaker 7 (01:27:26):
This is what happens when you chase money with little
regard for anything else.

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
You start creating problems that if you thought through it
even a little bit, you should have realized these were
going to be problems, going to be issues. We will
look back on this someday and recognize that this was
wildly miscalculated. That we should have broken football away from
the rest of the sports, created a football conference that

(01:27:54):
could be a you know, AFC and NFC of college football,
and then let the other sports, including basketball, be a
little more geographically sensible. We'll undo a lot of this
stuff someday, I think, and when they do the documentaries
on it, even the people who are in charge of
making the decisions right now, I think will have to
admit they made some mistakes, that they sacrifice tradition in

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common sense, you know, for millions.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
And millions and millions of dollars.

Speaker 9 (01:28:21):
And perhaps they would go make the same decisions again
because they're all getting rich. The money is everywhere, but
we are You know, this is not the way college
athletics should be, and I don't believe it will forever
be the way college athletics is it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33):
And I will admit it.

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
It was fun to watch pur Do you know a
backcourt that I just saw play in the Final four
and the championship game last year? Seeing that final four
backcourt come back and play Nozaki obviously in a lot
of new faces up front, but it was fun to
watch that, especially because of the outcome. All right, let me,
let's let's just talk bigger picture this year. We'll come
around this the country looking at your top twenty five
and one, watching your shows, listening to the podcast, it

(01:28:57):
feels like this is the SEC's year. It is the
SEC they are because we talked about it last year
with the Big twelve, right was the kind of the
number one conference a year ago in terms of top
the bottom and the power rankings. Can palm net all
that is the SEC the dominant conference.

Speaker 7 (01:29:11):
This year, not even close.

Speaker 9 (01:29:15):
And the conversation we're gonna start having, or perhaps we're
already having it. I always struggle when I say things
like that, because I'm like, you know, the conversation we're
gonna get to, and it's like, well, you know, start
the conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:29:26):
You're the one with the microphone. I can have the
conversation whenever I want.

Speaker 9 (01:29:31):
This is probably going to go down in history as
the best men's basketball conference, the best version of a
men's basketball conference we have ever seen. It will set
the record, barring a surprise, for number of teams in
the NCAA Tournament.

Speaker 7 (01:29:46):
The record is eleven that the old Big East.

Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
Is that the Old Big set that? Yeah, yeah, and the.

Speaker 9 (01:29:51):
SEC is gonna get twelve maybe thirteen. I think they've
got more national championship contenders than any league in the country,
maybe more true national championship contenders than any league in
the history of the country.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
Just right now.

Speaker 9 (01:30:06):
In my top twenty five and one at cbsports dot Com,
I've got Auburn at number one, Tennessee at number five,
Kentucky at number six, Florida at number seven, Alabama at
number eight, Mississippi State still in the top fifteen, Ole
Miss at fifteen, Texas and m at seventeen.

Speaker 7 (01:30:22):
I mean, the league, whether you want strength at.

Speaker 2 (01:30:25):
The top.

Speaker 9 (01:30:27):
At the BOTMB, however you chop it up and evaluate
such things, this is not only the best men's basketball
league in the country, it is probably going to go
down history as the best men's basketball league that's ever existed.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
The Big Ten, where does it rank right now? Is
it number two? It feels like it's better than the
Big twelve. The Big Twelve looks like it's taking a
step back.

Speaker 9 (01:30:48):
Yeah, the Big Twelve has taken a step back, which
is a little surprising because I would not have anticipated
that in the preseason. But if you start going through
conference rankings right now, you're going to find the far
and away the best, followed by the Big Ten, slightly behind.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
It the Big Twelve.

Speaker 9 (01:31:05):
A lot of this, particularly with the SEC, because you
start describing it the way I described it and then
people often want to know, well, how did this happen?
And it's money. It's the easiest explanation in the world.
Go look at transfer portal rankings. We used to focus
so much on recruiting rankings. Now you need to look
at transfer portal rankings. That's what's impacting the top of

(01:31:27):
the sport. Most of the best transfers are being boughped
by SEC schools. SEC schools that bought most of the
best coaches. They've bought most of the best players, and
that's why they have most of the best teams. And
in the Big Ten, I don't think the money is
quite being thrown around at the rate at which it's
being thrown around in the SEC or even the Big twelve.

(01:31:49):
I think the SEC in Big twelve is they're spending
more than anybody else. But there is money getting spent
in the Big Ten, and they obviously added some you know,
big time programs like Oregon is second in the country
right now. You know in wins inside of the first
two quadrants, you know, putting together a one seed type resume,
Well that's the team that's been added to the Big Ten,

(01:32:10):
and so your conference ranking is gonna go up anytime
you can add something like.

Speaker 2 (01:32:13):
That, Gary Paris joining as much to my no Lie Brewing. Yeah,
it doesn't always work, though. I think it's an interesting
dynamic because I'll bring up Indiana. They bought a team,
and we know they bought a team because Miles Rice,
for the first time ever was shown some love, is
what he said on the way out the door, even
though he got three years of a scholarship and got
paid pretty handsomely last year in terms of nil. But
Miles Rice was show love by Indiana, as was Ballo,

(01:32:36):
who got bought from Arizona of all places. And they
want to fire their coach at Indiana, yes.

Speaker 9 (01:32:42):
And they probably will just as soon as the season's over,
if not earlier. You're exactly right, and I think we're
learning right now at Indiana and at Arkansas something similar
because those are probably two of the most expensive rosters
in college basketball, the roster John Caliperry built at Arkansas
and the roster Mike and built at at Indiana. But

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what of Mike Woodson and John cali Perry have in common?
And I say this as somebody who's you know, I
don't have hair anymore.

Speaker 7 (01:33:09):
On top of my head.

Speaker 9 (01:33:09):
I'm getting old as well. But John cali Perry turned
sixty six next month. Mike Woodson is older as well.
And for a few years now with both of those guys,
as basketball is changing at all levels, there's really been
no indication that they understand how to adapt. They're both

(01:33:30):
obviously gifted basketball coaches. John cali Perry has a Hall
of Fame career. You know, my colleague wally's Zerbiak played
for Mike Woodson. He says, wood he's a good coach,
like he knows basketball, but basketball has changed. And there's
this interview I remember saying with Bob Dylan one time
in sixty minutes that's always stuck with me.

Speaker 7 (01:33:51):
He's being asked how he wrote some of.

Speaker 9 (01:33:52):
These songs, and this stuff's all in the news now
because of the big Timothy Shallowme movie. But they're sort
of reading back some of Bob Dylan's lyrics to him
and they said, you know, do you ever think about
how you did that? He's like, yeah, you know, I
don't know how I did that. Just something I was
able to do at one point, and they said, can
you do it today? And this was like twenty five
years ago. And he said no, And they said, well,

(01:34:14):
does that bother you? And he said, well, no, not really.
You know I can I could do it once, but
I couldn't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:34:19):
I can't do it now.

Speaker 9 (01:34:20):
But I could do other things now, but I can't
do that because that was a skill that I had
at one point. And the implication seemed to be, as
you age, you just lose stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:34:29):
You know.

Speaker 7 (01:34:30):
It's why Paul McCartney's not going to walk write a
number one hit today. You know, at some point you can't.
Music changes and you can't change with it as much
as they need you to do.

Speaker 9 (01:34:39):
The biggest musicians in the world are always forty and
under for a reason. Okay, So back to Mike Woodson
and John Calipari. I don't know that they have fresh ideas.
I don't know that they can get fresh ideas, and
neither one of them has surrounded themselves with the type
of people that could bring fresh ideas into your room.

Speaker 7 (01:34:54):
This is something I immensely respected about Nick Saban. He
wanted to beat you ten to for a long.

Speaker 9 (01:35:01):
Time if he could, but when he recognized college football
was changing, he went out and hired Lane Kiffin and
got out of the way and said go score fifty
if you can.

Speaker 7 (01:35:09):
He got out of the way.

Speaker 9 (01:35:10):
He threw away everything he believed football should be because
he knew football was changing. And Mike Woodson hasn't done that.
John Caliperry hasn't done that. So to your point, it
doesn't always work. You can give him all the money
in the world to build a nice roster with talented people,
but if they don't know how to play basketball in
the year twenty twenty five, you got issues. Mark Pope
also had to build a roster from nothing at Kentucky,

(01:35:31):
but he's a modernized coach with modern ideas. It's working
at Kentucky. At Indiana, it's not. At Arkansas it's not.
I think it's maybe because they got stubborn, stuck in
their ways head coaches in place.

Speaker 2 (01:35:42):
Gop more Mans with Gary Perish, we spit off just
the three teams locally in our stage. Just spitball that
real quick. Danny Sprinkle in Washington, I watched him last night.
I'm always kind of marveled it. Great building, cool atmosphere,
you know, and but I watched that team and I
felt like, Okay, at great Osa bor he's up and
down he had a game where he gore in the
Big Ten, but then he you know, they left. They
kind of let him do his thing yesterday and said

(01:36:04):
we're going to shut down everybody else. Is what Purdue did,
and it worked. They won once they finally started knocking
down some threes. They looked like the same team. They
got some athletes, they got some dudes that looked apart.
They just aren't very good. But it's his first year.
But I say that Mark Pope's first year as well.
There's a lot of first year coaches around college basketball
that are having success. What's your read on Washington.

Speaker 9 (01:36:24):
You know, Mark Pope had real nion money to go
out and build a roster with, and so he built
a team that was borderline top twenty five.

Speaker 7 (01:36:31):
And Danny I don't think had those types of resources.

Speaker 9 (01:36:35):
I mean, he got great austinbor and obviously that was
a big number connected to him, but the rest of
the roster never looked like something that was going to
be great in year one in the Big Ten.

Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
You know, they were.

Speaker 9 (01:36:46):
Preseason seventy third at Kenpom and so now they slipped
from that, they're ninety four. So they've gone the wrong direction.
But there was never a moment where I looked at
the roster Danny had in year one heading into washing
into this Big Ten season and said that it's a
team that looks like an NCAA tournament team, a little
worse than I guess, a little more disappointing than I anticipated,

(01:37:07):
in part because Austin word has been disappointing relative to
what he did last season and what people expected with
that number attached to his name. But I assume they
would struggle in the Big Ten this season, and so
far that's that's what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
He can coach, so I think if you're a Husky fan,
you know he can coach like he can coach Sprink,
Look at coach. I'll just wrap it up. We'll get
to gun Zaga next week. Sorry, zag fans, just watching
the state. David Rilly's had a nice start to his
tenure there. Horrible loss to Pacific last week, and they
bounce back and then they get beat by gun Zaga
out of surprise. But they have some quad They actually
have more Quad one wins and Quad two wins combined

(01:37:40):
than the did a year ago under Kyle Smith at
this point, But what's you read on what David Rally's
doing Awazu.

Speaker 7 (01:37:46):
Yeah, I don't know that.

Speaker 9 (01:37:47):
We're gonna be talking heading into Championship week and we're like,
and if they do a B and C they can
get to the instead of late tournament. It's probably gonna
have to, you know, in somewhere other than the field
of sixty eight. But you know, that's a program that
you know, last season reached an incredible high and then

(01:38:07):
you have a coaching change, you lose your roster. They're respectable, Like,
they're top eighty five at ken Pom in year one
under David.

Speaker 7 (01:38:14):
That's a good place to be.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
And I know you mentioned the Zags tonight on CBS
Sports Network, you have them on our air. They're at
Oregon State, so that should be one of their few
challenging road contests in the regular season. Eleven o'clock Eastern tip.

Speaker 7 (01:38:29):
Yeah, I got one.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Or it's only lost once at home this year, I think, right,
they're they're good home team.

Speaker 7 (01:38:35):
Yeah, Like the.

Speaker 9 (01:38:35):
Zags are favored tonight, but you know, only by seven
points according to kin Pom, so it should be a
competitive game. You don't get a lot of those in
January February usually with Gonzaga. We might have a competitive
game again tonight on CBS Sports Network eleven o'clock Eastern.
It's always you know, I don't like staying up till
two o'clock in the morning at my age, but if
you're gonna do it, it's fun to do it with

(01:38:56):
Mark fw and the Zags.

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
You'll be on TV tonight Inside College Basketball.

Speaker 7 (01:38:59):
Afterwards I'll be here.

Speaker 9 (01:39:01):
You're gonna go take a shower and throw on a
suit and head to studio and talk the rest of
the night about whatever they tell.

Speaker 6 (01:39:06):
Me to talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
Then I assume we got an I in College Basketball
preview show tomorrow for the weekend, right on Saturday. On Friday.

Speaker 9 (01:39:13):
Yeah, we'll do Inside College Basketball on TV late tonight
and then sleep three or four hours and get up
and do the Ian College Basketball podcast on Friday morning.
So busy time of the year, but a fun time
of the year. And it's been an awesome college basketball
season so far.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
It has all right, we listen, we'll tune in tonight.
Love having you on. Excited again for another year, Thanks Gary,
and we'll tune in and watch it on CBS Sports Network.
Also again, your pods wherever your podcasts Iron College Basketball
with Matt Norlander and Gary Parish. Great stuff along the way.
We'll talk to you next week, sir.

Speaker 7 (01:39:39):
Thank you all right, but I'll see it.

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