Furness Show 1-23: Chiefs Fatigue? Corbin Smith, Gary Parrish.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The incredulous look on your face during the update and
on not the update on the open. Yeah, why I.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Put it in your ear as it was playing. I
was like, the odds seemed impossible for.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Find that cut, find that clip? Can you find that clip?
Is it? Is it possible or not in the open
or is that hard to find? Just has it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I can find it. Hold on, just give me a second.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
We'll get to that in a second. We'll get to
that in a second. All right, let's run down the
show on a Thursday afternoon usually store Mandel joined just
thursdays at this time. We're not gonna get stew On today.
Just he had that week man, And I don't blame him.
And I understand feeling under the weather travel is she's
coming out of Atlanta. I was thinking of myself, got

(00:43):
and when the season when you cover something like like
and he didn't travel all the time, but he traveled
a few times. But when you're twenty four to seven,
you're covering a sport and you're doing that and great
could relate to this. He just left, but the season
comes to an end. That fine. I'm telling you no,
no sports writer and sports journalists should complain about traveling

(01:08):
in the sense of they get a pretty it's a
pretty good job, but there is something to it that's
a little bit of a strain. And I thought of Stuart,
but I thought of I thought of last year because
Mandel's his planes was delayed coming out of Atlanta and
he got sick. And I thought back in the sixteen
odd years that I was traveling with the Seahawks every week,

(01:31):
It's funny how every last game feels like it's that.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh yeah, your body starts getting ready.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
The travel screwed up, oh like. And I started thinking back,
and it's like, yeah, coming back from Green Bay, that
was the case. Coming back from Atlanta, that was the
case coming back. And then last well, I'm just no,
I'm just thinking like the last game and you're just done.
You're just done. The Super Bowl horror show. And last year,
my last ever Seahawk trip is it happened on on

(02:00):
the weekend that the door blew out of the Alaska flight.
Oh fun, So we spent five quality hours at the
worst airport in America called Seattle to call my international airport.
Somehow got to Phoenix for a game that, as it
turned out, was meaningless outside of Cigar Gate, which was awesome. Yeah,
but we got down there, flying through Eugene and then

(02:25):
our flight got canceled as we were pulling out of Glendale.
Last year, our flight got canceled for the next morning.
We had already checked in and said it was fine
on time and everything like boom canceled. Should know, and
I mean every one of the seven to thirty cents
was shut down. Let mean Alaska. Yeah, right. We spent
the next four hours before we could even eat dinner
at ten o'clock at night, old you know, Crappie Cheesecake factory,

(02:49):
trying to find a flight and I ended up going
through Medford and spent six quality hours in Medford. Now
that said, I did find a great group of that
was like a two dollars urber uber ride from the airport.
But that aside, like it feels like God, every one
of those and then you know, in evily you're just gassed,
you're tired, you're six. So I feel for Stu. I
feel for him. I understand where he's at. Probably could

(03:10):
have said force his way on the air. So you
know what, let's just talk to you tomorrow when you
feel better. Yes, And we'll put a bow on the
college football season. But I got college football to talk
about today. I will do that in a second. I
kind of tease at the other day. It's almost my
dysfunctional relationship with the sport. I don't know if anybody
else shares that. We'll get it away bit. We'll get
into that a little bit later as well. And I
want to talk a little bit about our conference championship

(03:31):
weekend coming up too, So I'm gonna actually kind of
throw both those out there at you guys. Four nine
four or five one is the Telemroo text line when
it's game time. So we'll kind of go a little
bit over the you know, all over the board a
little bit with both those things today because I think
they're both worth talking about. The TV rings came out
yester last couple of days for the college football playoffs.
We'll get some of that and what it means and
what changes they have to do. I mean, where is

(03:53):
college football. It's an interesting place where it's in right now.
If you look at some of the TV numbers, they're
down twelve percent from last season's title game with Washington
and Michigan. I think that I heard of teas yesterday
from the afternoon show.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
We're a bigger prey in the Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yes, I think we might want to remember one small thing,
just one little small thing. No, it was inauguration day,
oh that too, Yeah, and a holiday. Oh yeah, there's
a little different things going on in our world that day.
And I know the inauguration took place early. I know
this is a sports station, so we won't get too

(04:30):
deep into it, but there's like eighteen thousand balls that
they have on, you know, like like the inauguration balls.
Oh yeah, plural, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:37):
And I know people were catching up on it too.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
And I know where I was at watching the game,
my friend's house next door, and they wanted to every
commercial break we're watching, like what's the first lady wearing,
who's there, who's talking? And if you look at the
inauguration numbers that night across the board on CNN, MSNBC,
Fox News, where are we looking, So you can take
your choice what you want to hear. They had a

(04:59):
lot of numb is going that way. So I think
if you look at the overall numbers, think about that. Yeah,
if you look at the overall numbers, it did well
on that Monday. Now the whole question of whether or
not it goes too late. By the way, next year,
I think it goes even later. So yeah, especially if
they increase it to fourteen teams next year. They're talking
about it. I don't think they will. Yeah, well, they

(05:20):
just met on Monday or Sunday. They have to have
unanimous photo. Are they going to change the seating if
they go If here's the thing, if they change it
to fourteen teams, it's gonna because Greg Sanky loses his mind.
They're gonna be some extra extra sec things in it.
But we'll get to college football a second. The other
thing I want to talk to the next thing. We'll
do a couple things in the next couple of segments.
I do want to get into the conference championship weekend.

(05:41):
We just talked about that with Greg and the crosstalk,
and we mentioned it yesterday with Holmgren. I'm kind of
curious where everybody's everybody's kind of feeling this weekend in
terms of is there Kansas City Chiefs fatigue And I'm
gonna bring that up in the next segment. I think
for some there is that'll come up with, Like I
don't know if that will affect the ratings, but I

(06:03):
think there is some fatigue. Now I kind of fall
on the other side of the track. I kind of
look at this and I'll explain in the next segment.
It's an interesting dynamic because I'm really split with that
game what I'm rooting for. I'm really not split at
all with the other one. We'll talk about that. So
all that coming up today. Corbin Smith one o'clock, Gary

(06:25):
Parrish two o'clock, Daily Power Played one forty five all
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Speaker 1 (06:45):
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Speaker 1 (07:09):
You like that? Huh okay?

Speaker 2 (07:10):
So, after listening to it for the second time, I
think he was talking about the odds seemed impossible for
a Notre Dame. I think so too, now that I
hear that again, I think so too. That makes more sense.
That makes a lot.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
More complimenting the fact.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
That there was some dumb there were some dumb things
said on that broadcast, Yes, all right, Like they make
no mistake, there were some really stupid things said on
that broadcast. Absolutely most of the time when Herbstreet opens
his mouth, unless he's unless he's actually talking about the game,
does a great job with that anything else.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
See, I think he does a good job at thursdaynight football.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
I think he does a good row. Like when there's
no emotion attached to it, yeah, or no agenda, it's
just the NFL. It's like kind of it's somewhat sterile
in a good way. Broadcast. Yeah, college football. He just
gets on this flipping a high horse, and and then

(08:02):
he engages with people and fan bases and all that stuff.
And you know that he had a line the other day.
It just he's you know, he's all emotional afterwards, and
I I'm sorry, God, I'm trying.

Speaker 7 (08:16):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I hate I because people bag on us as broadcasters,
and I don't like it, but I'm gonna do it that.
I'm just I'm worn out with Scott Van Pelt. I
don't need him anymore. He's on everything. God, if you
don't see Mike Greenberg, you see Scott van Pelt.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
They only have like two personalities left.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
I just I can't handle it, like I can't handle anymore.
It's too much. SVP says quote guys that stuck around
that didn't have to. So let me go through my
disci and we're gonna get to the seat. We'll get
to the NFL here in a second. And I want
your thoughts on this four nine four five one tell
them more. New text one went his game time. Talkbacks
are welcome as well. Have you seen the new iHeartRadio app?

(08:55):
Have you seen it? People, I've been using it. Okay,
it has presets like your rate. It's new and improved.
And we still have a little red microphone on the
ninety three point three kJ R FM part of it
where you click the red microphone speak for thirty seconds
or less, give us your thoughts. We play them on
the air. It's what we do in radio.

Speaker 7 (09:11):
Now.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Sorry, no more phone calls unless it's three to seven
and then you know, then you get words your mind at.
But outside of that, yeah, outside of that, we're not
doing it. Okay, we want to, but we want to
hear your voice. That way, we can kind of edit
it down. Sometimes you guys use coll for language. We
don't like that.

Speaker 8 (09:23):
I can't use it on the air, so we still
get the the tenor the meal.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
So here's my here's my dysfunctional relationship with college football.
I want to know if you share this with me.
I I love watching college football and and give them
my drugs. I mean, I can watch almost any I
can watch the Mac attack on a Tuesday, Central Michigan,
Eastern Michigan. I don't even know why. I don't even
know why I can't. I don't know. I don't know.

(09:50):
I'm telling you it's a it's an addictive drug. It's
it's something wrong with you. You're watching some random soccer match,
right man? Whatever? Okay, anyway, I'm I can watch a
lot of that, but especially the bigger schools or schools
that we have ties to. Whether it's former PAC twelve schools,
I'm still interested in, whether it's current you know where,
it's the Big Ten. Hell, I found myself watching the

(10:12):
stupid Big Ten network post game show. By the way, Wow,
by the way, really well done. Oh the way outside
of when they put Ashley Adamson on It's really good
or Yogi. They got the re treads. They must have had.
There must have been some sort of weird backroom deal like, hey,
here's a deal.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So we're moving to Big ten.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
But you know what you gotta take. You got to
put Ashley and Yogi, Okay, I mean, well gotta love
ball Yogi anyway. Yeah, but no, they they actually the
Big ten network is really good. Like they do weird
things like I don't know, nightly recap shows talking about
the games, not just features and fluff on non revenue sports,
really weird, very strange. They do a really good job.

(10:50):
Dave Redsdens I had the main guy. It's really good,
like really good form me UESPN game.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I mean, it's it's the difference between Fox and ESPN's
they just another network.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Yeah, CBS Sports Networks is the same when they do Inside
College Basketball and sside college football, really good programs. That's
a side note. But yeah, Garry Parish two o'clock today.
But so I watch a lot of college I love
college football. I really truly do, and so does the
rest of the country. The bowl games this year ratings wise,
averaged about two point six million people. Bad Bowl games

(11:21):
this year got nine hundred thousand. That's better than NBA
and NHL games get on TNT and on a nightly basis.
It's better than almost any other sport, far better than
anything baseball can never do until they get to the playoffs.
People watch, and those are from quote unquote meaningless Bowl games. Now,
the fact that the majority of the country not named
Washington can go on things like fan Duel and DraftKings

(11:42):
and bet from their phone anywhere in the world or
anywhere in the in the area from their home, that helps, right,
Gambling helps. The NFL knows that it's the thing. The
NCAA is taken. It's the NFL model. The NFL finally
embraced wait for it, wagering sports betting. Yes, of course
you have to, because that's why you're popular that in
fantasy football. But that helps college football one hundred percent.

(12:05):
It does. I just I'm trying to figure out how
I feel about what I just watched, though, because the
top five most expensive rosters in college football this season
Ohio State, Texas, Oregon, LSU, Georgia, And there's a little debate,

(12:26):
and we're talking. When I say debate, we're talking about
zero point five you know, anywhere from from one hundred
thousand dollars to five hundred thousand dollars. Difference between all
those schools. Widely believe that Ohio State was the most expensive.
Some believe it was Oregon, some believe it was Texas.
Doesn't matter. Those teams are all college football playoff teams,
as was Georgia. LSU fell short at twenty one twenty

(12:48):
point one million, roughly what they spent. But you're buying
a championship or you're buying a contender. I don't think
you can buy a championship. You still have to go
win the game. Like Will Howard's still had to make
some great throws, Jeremi Spizell had to make some great plays.
Ye you know, Campbell and JT and others had to
make great plays along the way. A Notre Dame game
of battle till the very end. And Notre Dame isn't

(13:10):
that expensive. But part of the reason Notre Dame is
not that expensive, Rang talked about it last week. We'll
talk to Rang later and tomorrow. Actually, Notre Dame doesn't
have a ton of true NFL prospects right now today
on the roster. They just don't like their quarterback isn't
the running backs all running back is But they just
don't have a lot of NFL guys, you know, necessarily

(13:31):
star power is. They were kind of more of a
collection of really good players. But the point is this,
you can't truly buy a championship in college football, but
you need to spend and invest to at least compete
for a championship in college football. And I just don't
know how that makes me feel. I just the unlimited

(13:51):
free agency. Know something we talked about, we'll talk about
one thirty today. No salary caps, so to speak. It's
the most unique sport out there. Went from overregulated and
undercompensated athletes to the complete opposite.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Yeah, with no regulation.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
And maybe it's because I don't have the means, and
I'm going to say about ninety plus percent of us
listening and talking right now don't have the means, the
wherewithal the ability to just take money and throw it
at a college football program athlete with nothing in return,
Like if you donate to I don't know the Thaii club,

(14:30):
but I know if you don'ate Tokug Graphletic Fund, which
is how you used to do it, to the school,
and then you're on a list, you get priority on tickets,
you can sit in certain see. You know, there's some
there's some perks. There's a little bit of kiss back
as well as the donation.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yes, that is correct.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
You're donating to an NIL. All you're doing is paying
a kid to play for the school that you cheer for. Yes,
think about that for a second. And then you're being
guilted into paying more money. Jimmy Rodgers is going to
be here on Monday, Wazuko, Yes he will. He's gonna
tell us to spend money on NIL. Jed Fish tells
people the same thing. I just don't know. I just
don't like that. I don't I can't feel I don't

(15:06):
And like I said, I love the sport. I just
don't like where the sport is. And I understand that
that's kind of the reality of it. But you know
when SVP says, you know, guys that stuck around, they
didn't have to, dude. Those guys all that stuck around
were not day one picks, or they were borderline day
one picks, or they needed another year of fine tuning.

(15:28):
Like say j T did or you know a Mecca did.
I mean, those guys wouldn't have been day one picks
last year, right, I'll tell you that they stuck around
because they make it made more money in college. We'll
talk about that with Parish at two o'clock today. Like
college basketball is a far different sport today than it
was three years ago. Three years ago, you win with freshmen. Now,
Duke's winning with freshmen this year in basketball, they are

(15:50):
not the norm. Everyone else that's winning is winning with
older transfer kids. Well, yeah, and yeah, Tennessee's Tennessee's best player,
who's probably the number two player in the country, he
is a transfer.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, it's NBA light.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
It's because those guys make more.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Money without a salary cap or free agency.

Speaker 1 (16:06):
And they'd in college basketball or in the NBA. The
NBA has two rounds of draft picks. First round, when
you had the Europeans thirty picks, maybe eighteen the most
seventeen eighteen nineteen American college players will get drafted and
have an actual guaranteed contract. Nobody in the second round
has a guaranteed contract. There's a handful of Jalen Wells

(16:27):
that get to the second round or Isaiah Thomas's that
get to the second round, get drafted, get a contract,
carve out it. But a lot of them don't. So
you're better off staying in college because you make more money.
So don't tell me that, you know, don't don't put
these guys on a pedical all they stuck around, and
you know, and then they didn't have to well technically right,
they didn't have to. But they made more money by
sticking around.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
It's not like they did it out of the goodness
of their heart. No, they were trying to win.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
They stuck around because they went to a school that
was paying more money than anybody outside of Oregon or
Texas who were on the same level and maybe Georgia.
They stuck around because as a Day three NFL draft pick,
no guarantee of money, your signing bonus is far less
than you're gonna make in college on it as a
day two or three pick. Like, yeah, they stuck around.

(17:12):
So I love the sport. I love the fact that
you know, I look, you look at the TV numbers,
they're down a little bit this year. Inauguration is the
big reason why the scheduling is weird. You know, I
don't mind the Thursday and Friday semi final games. You're
trying to schedule around the NFL. It's almost impossible.

Speaker 8 (17:29):
Yeah, and then you know it replaced Monday. You have
football for the championship too, like.

Speaker 1 (17:33):
But there's no money. I mean we're already in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
So I know. But I'm saying, like, you know, people
want their fix.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yeah, I think I think give you look back on
it's not inauguration Day. It's a different it's a different
it's a different tune. They still had twenty I mean,
they peaked at twenty six million people. That's a boatload
of people watching football. Okay for a very regionalized sport.
College football, business wise, television wise, revenue wise, is in
a good spot? From a fan spent standpoint? Is it

(18:00):
in a good spot? I guess that's the question i'd
ask you. I just there's again part of it might
just be me. I don't have I mean, I've got
a family, I've got a kid finishing up college. Anders
is newly married. You're newly married. You've got your future
ahead of you. You know, whether it's buying a house
or upgrading a house, or doing something along those lines.

(18:20):
Just most of us don't have money to say, Hey,
I'm going to give a thousand dollars or five thousand
dollars or ten thousand dollars to my favorite school. Why
think about how screwed up this system is. There's no
other sport. We can kill the Mariners all day long,
and rightfully so we will. But John Stanton doesn't come

(18:42):
to you and say, hey, I need everybody here to
give twenty eight dollars a month for the next twelve months,
and it's going to go to player payroll.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Now we still do that. We go to games, but
you get something exactly, get a dollars, yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
You're watching the game and you get a beer, might
be and.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
You get a jersey, but you know what to expect to.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
You're not just giving John Stanton money so he can
go and maybe give to Potos some more means to
go attempt to buy a pitcher or a hitter or something.
In football, we are it's now. We've always donated. There's
always been, but there's always been something on the other
end of the donation, whether it's you know, priority on

(19:24):
seating club seats, you can see, you know something. There's
nothing with nil except for, Hey, I help buy a friend,
I help buy a being. Essentially, something has to change,
is my point, Like something something has to change because
I love the sport. I love watching the games I

(19:44):
love I mean Ohio State, Notre Dame, two massive brands.
I was riveted to the TV even when it looked
like it was gonna be a blowout. All the college
football playoff games, we had probably more duds and good games, right,
we just did. That's the year. It could change next year,
could flip how they do the seeding, on campus, off
campus games. All those things to be decided. But the

(20:06):
reality is is you got to you as a fan,
are being asked to pay an eighteen, nineteen twenty year
old to perform on the field, Then what kind of
pressure is there? I sat in the stands two years
ago Camboard's first year in Pullman and is the Utah game.
He was awful through like a thousand screen passes, every

(20:27):
pass lost two yards. Now, Eric Morris is a dipstick
as an offensive coordinator. That was part of the problem,
but it didn't matter because Cam was one of the
first nil babies. Yep. And he's just getting hammered, hammered
and I was thicking. Man, if I would have spent
mon if I would have paid money, I'd be like
pissed at him too, Like, dude, you're not performing up
to what you're doing well.

Speaker 8 (20:47):
Not only that, and these are conversations I've had over
the last couple of years, having been front and center
for it, is how much pressure is there on the
coaching staff to keep those guys on the field.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, that's well, I mentioned I don't know, I told
you I mentioned this earlier. Yeah, my son's girlfriend's a
soccer player in back East Division one soccer player. She's
a keeper, and she's she had a great start to
her senior year, Conference player of the week, all this stuff.
All of a sudden, she finds herself on the bench,
Like why is that? Well, we had a freshman that

(21:19):
was getting nil money. Wow, that all of a sudden
was playing splitting time at first and playing more if
there was Like I'm not I'm very biased. I mean
I'm very biased. Example though, I'm very biased, but I
could look at the games objectively and say, weird, three
straight shutouts. Now you're on the bench for three games? Why,

(21:39):
Like why? Because there's pressure to play those who are paid. Yes,
exactly what you just said.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
It was a rampant you know, yeah, well football there's
the most money coming in, but it was rampant speculation
for us where we can kind of.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
Like, but here's my dysfunction. Here's my dysfunction. I'm still
going to watch ah there and I and I keep
coming back. It's a bad drug. College you allege football.
College football to me is the most is the worst
worst sports drug is out there. It is it's the
most addictive, worst sports drug out there because I'll watch

(22:14):
colle and I love college basketball to college basketball. I
really got into the last few years, a little harder
this year with the crack and stuff I gotta do,
but I still watch a ton. I mean I tape
every Inside College Basketball show and watch with Gary and
and the boys and try to get caught up on things.
But it's but college football is it's it's a bad
I mean, it is an addictive, horrible sports drug that

(22:34):
I just keep firing into my veins and and I
don't want to invest in it. I don't know if
I can invest in it. We're gonna actually have the
Cougar and Iel guy in here at some point just
to kind of walk us through and maybe he can
convince me it's a better thing. And I understand it's
the part of what you gotta do. I get that
it's a necessary evil. It's a necessary evil, but it's
just not right. I mean, honestly, think about it. It's

(22:55):
just not right. And then coaches have a built in excuse.
I'm not going to bring up names, but I know
a couple of coaches recently that have told some boosters
in our area and I say our area, I'll just
say the northwest West Coast that have told people, hey,
we just can't compete because and you hear it sometimes publicly,
but you know, Dickret made a big point of it

(23:17):
a lot of times, but we need more money. We're
not getting enough. We can't compete with these teams, which
is true. The hard thing with and this, this is
what kind of bothers me even about baseball right now, Andrews.
There should be a payoff. There should be a payoff
for being good at your job in terms of talent

(23:37):
evaluation and coaching baseball. There isn't because you can and
we've known this and this has always been the case.
This is the joke for all those years back in
the Kingdom days. Was then the Mariners were the Yankees
farm system, right and basically the Mariners in the expos.
That's kind of the big joke when I was growing up.
Bother there's the farm system for the medinning. But that
was the thing. You can develop guys, you can draft guys,

(23:59):
but are you going to be able to keep them
in free after free agency? The only good thing with
baseball is free agency starts when you're like eighty. But
but it's but it does like you in in college sports.
The reason college sports has always been fun is Mike
Riley could go to Oregon State and find Ken Simonton

(24:20):
and Jonathan Smith or guys like that. I'm not gonna
bring up the two receivers because they were kind of
they were kind of bought and paid for. But but
but you know, you get my but you get my point.
You go find guys Richard Siegler, whoever. It is like
when I was covering those guys, they you know, Mike
had good teams and Dennis Sara tankod teams because you
get fined and develop a great coaching staff. And they
found Wazoo went to two Rose Bulls. Why because Mike

(24:41):
Price and his staff had a did an incredible job
of talent evaluation. They didn't do it with four or
five star guys. They did it with guys they just
dug out, like you know, dug up out of a
rock somewhere. And but now that now that you do
if you do that now, John Matier, right, if you
do that now? Hell even at Washington, Jabar Mohammed whatever it,
who does matter?

Speaker 6 (25:01):
You know?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
The center? What's the guy at Parker whatever his name,
Brel's Ford, brelsform RELs, Brails for whatever his name is.
The guy went to Alabama. You developed guys, they're gone, yep,
because you you can't hold on to them because you
have to pay them. Someone else will pay them more.
There should be something. There's just something inherently wrong with that.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
I know.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
I'm preaching from the mountaintops. I don't know. Maybe maybe
people share that same opinion. Maybe you don't. Four nine
four or five one. It's kind of putting a rap
on the college football season. We'll talk to Stuart tomorrow
four nine, four to five one. Tell them what text
line when it's game time. I love to get some
talkbacks as well. We'll red microphone fire away. When we
come back. NFL Championship weekend. Do you embrace greatness or

(25:38):
do you want to see a change at the top.
We'll talk about that.

Speaker 4 (25:41):
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Speaker 1 (25:57):
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All right, I'm excited. I think we were all excited

(26:19):
right about the games. This weekend feels kind of compelling
in a lot of different ways. A lot of fun storylines. Yeah,
kind of fun out there. Well, you're tight with Danny
Quinn dan Quinn tq I on the AFC side. It's
a fun matchup because it's Josh Allen and Pat Mahomes again.

(26:41):
But let me just throw out the resume for a second.
Here with Kansas City, and we get the little temperature
of what people are thinking. And starting with you, two
nine straight playoff appearances, that's obscene in today's NFL. Nine
straight playoff appearances, six straight appearances in a comp in
the conference championship game they've won. They've won five of

(27:06):
those or four of those six games to get to
the super Bowl. Obviously, have won three super Bowls and
lost one along the way, and they've won two straight.
That's the Kansas City chief Andy Reid, Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelcey,
core group of guys. Resume is there chiefs fatigue. I'm
I'm torn in a lot of ways because if Buffalo wins, cool,

(27:31):
you know what Josh Allen gets there, good storyline away,
you go that that poor fan base it suffered. But
most of the fans, not most of them, little large
chunk of the fans that don't remember the four straight
Super Bowl losses. If they're god, how old would you
have to be, Well, it happened.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
In the nineties, Yeah, like yeah, my generation, you'd have
to be forty yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah right, yeah, so yeah, I mean long offering. Sure
they've been long suffering, but they didn't suffer through those
most people, but a lot of them did you know,
older people? Folks did. But the Kansas City dynasty is
what this is in today's NFL, A league that's always
been built on parody, a league that's always wanted teams
not to be good consecutive years. They're outside the box.

(28:17):
New England was that way now and Kansas has done
has a more impressive resume outside Super Bowl wins right
now than New England did in terms of consecutive playoffs,
Championship game appearances, all that stuff. So, so what do
you want to see? Like when you sit down, Because
we all are, we're all human. You sit down, I
think most of the same way you sit down, it's

(28:37):
like I can't wait see a good game. You'll find
yourself rooting for one or the other.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yes, the game picks you. I love that.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
I the game does pick you.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
No, that's what When I have no rooting interest, I've
just let myself watch and.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
It's an amazing phenomenon. Like you said there, like you
could be watching. I can watch this soccer game you're
watching right now, Okay, and somehow along the way, I'd
pick a team that I like. I don't even know
how or why, just because that's you're human beings, right,
You're human beings. I'm I'm rooting for them to get
back to the super Bowl. Wow, I'm rooting for them

(29:10):
to get back.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
You're in the minority.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
I know, I am, I know I am. But I'm
also I remember the New York Islanders, the Vonton Oilers,
I remember some of the great NBA, you know, so
called dynasties you want to call them. I mean the
Lakers Showtime with Magic and Kareem, Larry Bird and Robert Parrish.
I love, you know, the Bulls. Obviously, it's so hard
to do that in the salary cap league. Now, it

(29:32):
is that I kind of like to see greatness. I
kind of like to see that now. I'm this is
this is how how weird my mind works. The other
side of it is if they lose Okay fresh meat
with Buffalo, that's fine too. Like I look at the
AFC as like a kind of a no lose game

(29:53):
in terms of rooting interest. But I'm but I'm leaning
towards Kansas City.

Speaker 7 (29:58):
Again.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
I don't have quite the Kansas City cheese fatigue that
I think that some that a lot of people have.
Like you said, I'm probably the minority the other one.
We're different out here, not closed it's it's Washington all
day and every day. You know, Philadelphia's won a Super Bowl,
so is Washington. But that was back when, like Mark
Rippen was playing the worst well and Washington fans suffered

(30:19):
through the worst owner, the worst owner in sports for
a lot of different reasons. A lot of them had
to do with how he conducted business behind closed doors
with his employees, especially female employees, et cetera. I mean,
Daniel Snyder was a snake and just a bad, bad
human being. You know, I covered four games back there.
I've never seen a more poorly run organization in terms

(30:41):
of how this guy wanted things done. It was cheap,
it was gross, it was disgusting. And again that's not
even talking about what behind closed doors. They survived, that
they stayed through that, they're still fans, great fan base.
They packed that place, the dump of a stadium. It's
hard to get to. Everything about it sucks, and they've
suffered through and they've been there and now they've got
a great owner and they got d Q. It's awesome,

(31:03):
So that part of it's really cool. Daniels and Jade
and Daniels and Jane Daniels. I'll be the first to admit, man,
I'm like, I don't know, man, Skinny Kid because I
could never get Skinny Kid out of Arizona stayed out
of my mind, you know, like, oh, yeah, he beat
Wazoo last second because of his legs really fast. But
is the NFL quar? This guy's stud guy's an absolute stuff.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
He peaked at the right time.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
He did, and and you know, and for him, honestly,
the portal was the best thing. Goes Lsu plays in
the SEC, takes his game to a different level. Good
for him, But that game's a no brainer. Yeah, screw you, Philadelphia,
you and your you know, bickering amongst yourselves reading a book,
not reading a book, receiver. They're just and I can do.
I can do without you, guys. I can do with
that again, so that one. But I'm curious, what do
you guys say, am I I'm even the three of

(31:46):
us am minding the minority with the chiefs?

Speaker 6 (31:48):
Uh for me?

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Yeah? So I used to root for them.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
I love Patrick Mahomes and you read I'm sorry, He's
an extremely lovable coach. You can't hate him for succeeding
too much. So I was all on that, on that.
I mean, Mahome's coming, hold on Maholmes coming out of Texas.

Speaker 1 (32:03):
Tex Taylor Swift, I can feel it coming.

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Oh god, No, she is out of the equation for me.
She is a fan that shows up to a game
to cheer on her boyfriend. Like I don't. She's the
same as anyone else.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I felt the same way the record Antias.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
Don't come for me, Swift.

Speaker 8 (32:23):
But like I felt the same way with you know,
Tony Roman, Jessica Simpson when that was the whole thing.
I'm like, I don't care, Like whatever, it doesn't bother me.
I don't care about it anyway. But I don't have
fatigue where I root against them. I just have more
apathy where I don't care.

Speaker 6 (32:41):
I don't.

Speaker 8 (32:41):
I guess you can get bored. It's just yeah, exactly.
I want to see something new. And you know, I
grew up in New York. I have a lot of
friends who were Buffalo Bills fans. I've seen them suffer,
I know what, you know, Like they were really little
when the four in a Row happened, and everything I've
met Jim Kelly, wonderful human being.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
I root for him. He's done so much for you know.

Speaker 8 (33:02):
I mean, obviously I don't root for him playing because
he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
But I just always fatigue. I guess I'm gonna get And.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Does that count for fatigue?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Fatigue real quick.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I usually root for the Chiefs. I think it's a
lot of people kind of equate the Chiefs to what
the Patriots used to be because it was kind of a dynasty.
But I actually equate it more to the Warriors in
the mL and the NBA. I think it's more like
their style of play really attracts me. I love watching
Patrick Mahomes play. I love watching Steph Curry play. I
love watching Steve Kirk coach. I love watching Andy Reid

(33:39):
coach and just the players that they have. It's fun
to watch. I never got the fatigue.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
The same thing with Jess. The Taylor Swift thing is
irrelevant to me, although my wife watches Chief games.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, no, she's good for business, and people that rip
on that are stupid. So like they are, it's like
it's good, it's it's good for business. But I'm kind
of the same thing as you is. I wouldn't care
if the Bills won because I think their fan base
deserves it. But I definitely do not have cheese to
teak at all. I still want them to win, and
they've reinvented them. I see one real quick. The thing

(34:10):
that I do find different with them compared to New
England Andy reads likable, Bill Belichick's now time.

Speaker 2 (34:16):
Yes, and we don't have a personal connection to it
with obviously.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I think I think Mahomes is a little more likable
than than Tom Brady. So all right, well take a break,
come back you thought four on four to five one?
Tell where the signed. A lot of stuff out there
for today. Our guy Corna Smith.

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Speaker 2 (35:27):
Mickey, like that from now on.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Mccronin, Nicky cronin. I mean, like those teams are coming
out to LA. We're going to see the Statue of
Liberty all the time. It's too far on my charter plate.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Mccronan sounds like a dip in stock grumpy relative of mine.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
He is finalist for the NFL MVP by the Associated
Press are announced Josh Allen, Saquon Barkley, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow,
and Jared Goff. All right, let's get to it.

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Speaker 4 (36:21):
Now with Corbyn Smith, dear's e and.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
All right, here's what I did. The other day. I
reached out he was driving in. J Justin Anders will
tell you this for a fact, I'm not the biggest
fan of calling people and talking on the phone. What
I know weird?

Speaker 8 (36:38):
No, I thought your phone was always off because I
go straight to voicemail every time I talked to you.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Very I think he manually does that.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I know you got. I know you guys are shocked
by this. But yeah, so you don't talking on the
phone is weird? Whatever? Just text? But I picked up
the phone the other day.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
Man, you're such as gen zer.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
I know. I picked up the phone driving in. I said,
I got I call my guy Corbyn. I want to
call Corbyn because the couple weeks goes Thanks A lot.
Curt has been a fun year. Beg thanks. It's sold
by Jim, sold by Jim dot Com real estate agent.
And I said, yeah, we're probably wrapping this thing up
and the way we go, we'll talk to you down
the road. And I said, you know, what, what the
hell am I doing? What am I doing that for?
Because last I checked, the NFL doesn't take a break.

(37:20):
It doesn't right, there's OC's to look for. There's free
agency coming up, Taylor, I was thicking the same thing.
What am I doing? Well? I called up Corbin and
I said, hey, buddy, what do you think about coming
on still during the off season? And he said, what
the hell? I got nothing going on except for writing,
podcasting and working my ass off all the time covering
the Seahawks. So here he has Corbin Smith back with

(37:41):
us again. How are you man?

Speaker 6 (37:43):
I'm good man, I'm enjoying the What are we doing
here to play here?

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I don't know why I was like just cutting you
off at the knees. I want to have you on.
I want to talk football, you know, like you and
I were talking on the phone, Like the NFL, when's
their vacation, Corban, I guess it's like the first couple
weeks in July.

Speaker 6 (38:03):
That's about it, right, That's really the only time of
year that you really have to just take a step
back and like there literally is nothing going on.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
So and I know that. I know my guy Corban
likes to talk NFL more than anybody. He likes to
He loves what he does and covering the Seahawks. So
here he is. We'll have him on probably for a while,
just keep doing this weekly. It's fun talking to football
with him. There's a lot to get to. I'm gonna
be very honest with you, Corman. The whole offensive coordinator search,

(38:33):
I'm I think it's like my version of the Kansas
City Chiefs for a lot of people, a lot of
people bored with the Chiefs right now, right apathetic in
the sense as Jess said, I'm kind of That's the
thing I just don't care about right now. I know
I should, but I don't study it close enough. And
who they bring in we'll wait, you know, it's all
wait and see anyway. Kubiak, I guess is a name

(38:54):
that kind of intrigues me. But outside of that, I'm like, euh,
wake me up when it's over. But you do follow it.
You are into it, So give me what you're thinking,
what you're hearing, and what might be a good fit
here before we get into personnel.

Speaker 6 (39:06):
Yeah, based on everything that I've been told, and look,
this is this is much different than when Mike McDonald
was hired last year, where I had a really good
sense that hey, this is going to be wrapping up
here pretty quickly. And even Ryan Grubb once there have
been some news about him leaving Alabama after five minutes
there and coming out to the Seahawks, like there was

(39:27):
a lot of signs out there pointing, ay, this is
going to come together pretty quickly. It's anyone's guess what's
going to happen right now with Seattle's offensive coordinator position
because the three coordinator candidates they've interviewed twice, none of
them have been hired by anybody yet at this point.
So it feels like the dominoes have kind of fallen
in order where they have not had the rush into

(39:50):
making a decision here. I mean, and the news yesterday
the Chicago Bears they're not going to be bringing Hank
Frayley with Ben Johnson, New York Jets, Aaron Glenn's planning
to go with Mark Brunell if he can get Mark
Burnell from Detroit. Frayley's not listed there as the offensive coordinator.
The Lions are expected to bring Tanner Engstrand up from
pass game coordinator. He's been groomed the last two years,

(40:12):
so Frayley's not gonna get the OC job there. So
I feel like Hank Fraley right now that the signs
are pointing that he is the one that the Seahawks want.
The issue is he's never been a play caller at
any level, so they want to have a pass game
coordinator to go with him that has experience as a
play caller. Now, my understanding is Frehley is going to

(40:33):
be the play caller, he's the offensive coordinator, but they
would have somebody that has done this before. It's a
lot like Leslie Fraser was for Mike McDonald last year
as kind of that mentor as he grew into first
time head coach. They want a passing game coordinator that's
going to provide that. I'm wondering if behind the scenes
that's what's holding things up right now. Because Frayley's got
a couple of candidates in mind, and the Seahawks have

(40:55):
a few candidates their own in mind, and they're trying
to hash that out.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
It makes sense to you to like if they do
go that route, and it is freely as the number
one guy, a guy that isn't as I mean, his
expertise certainly would not lie in the passing game. And
it's a passing league. Now, even though I know the
coach wants to run the ball, like every coach in
the world wants to run the ball established and run.
We want to esablish the run. That's what we do,
want to establish the run. But outside of that, like

(41:21):
the guy hasn't been involved much with the passing games
that concern you at all, It.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Doesn't if they get the right passing game coordinator. Because
this is the thing I've been trying to hammer home
in my articles and my analysis on social media, Like
there's a lot of people when they heard well, they're
talking about splitting duties. Like more teams do that than
teams that have just a sole offensive coordinator, Like most
teams have a passing game coordinator or a run game coordinator.

(41:47):
If you have a pass centric offensive coordinator, you have
the complementary coordinator that is helping with those duties. Very
few teams just have an OC and say, yeah, it's
all on your plate. And the Seahawks, historically in the
last fifteen years, most of those seasons, I mean Daryl
Bevell and Tom Cable that was.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
A split OC position.

Speaker 6 (42:07):
Andy Diggers and Shane Waldron. Even the last year of
Brian Schottenheimer. Dave Canalis was the passing game coordinator in
that heavy involvement and that led to his fast rise
becoming a head coach. So I wouldn't have issues with
it as long as you get the right fit at
the pass game coordinator position, and I do think you
have to get experienced there. I know Antoine Randelel, who's

(42:29):
coach with Frehley Detroit, is a name that he has
probably been pitching to Mike McDonald John Schneider, but he's
never been a pass game coordinator or a play caller
at any level. I can't see John Schneider and Mike
McDonald being okay with that. They want somebody like a
Scott Turner or a Byron Leftwich who has been an
NFL coordinator and has had success in the league that

(42:51):
they can put with Frayley to help him grow into
this position.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
All right, why has Leftwich not been around for a
couple of years? Do you think? I thought he was
pretty highly fought.

Speaker 6 (43:03):
You know, it's really interesting some of the conversations that
I've had. I you know, when Leftwood was coaching in
Tampa I thought that this was a beloved coach, and
I know that Tom.

Speaker 1 (43:13):
Brady held him in high regard. But I've heard some.

Speaker 6 (43:17):
Contrary remarks in the last few weeks that there were
some players, especially the last year where Tampa Bay's offense
plunged at twenty fifthen points, there were some players that
had some issues with communication with him, and I think
that is carried over into potential jobs for him the
last two years. I also think he's been really stubborn,

(43:38):
like I'm only going to be an offensive coordinator where
he's been out of the league down for two years.
If you want to get back into the league and
maybe be an OC again, you might have to take
that first leap. Hey, I'm going to be a passing
game coordinator with the Seahawks or whoever, and I'm going
to rebuild some of that value that was lost with
that season in Tampa Bay where that offense just fell
apart in the last year that Tom Brady was there.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Corma Smith joining us locked on Seahawks. Well, let's go
down the road to free agents for a second, and
then maybe we'll talk some cap casualties. But as we
go to this offseason, I'm gonna fire off the UFAs
and the group here. I know you're familiar with all
of them, but I'll just fire them off and you
tell me you know who they should bring back and
who they should just say, audios, man, appreciate your time.

(44:24):
You know, I'll clean up the locker. You got it done.
Thanks for coming. Jaren Reid, Farrell Brown, Jonathan Hankins, Kevon Wallace,
Trevis Gibson, Lake and Tomlinson already. Burns Trey Brown are
all unrestricted free agents, along with Ernest Jones. Who do
you bring back among that group?

Speaker 6 (44:44):
You know, I can't say that I have ever said
this in the last twelve or thirteen years, but to me,
there's two names for players that I'm bringing back, and
if those are the only two the Sea Awksrey signed,
then I think it's a successful offseason. I just don't
feel like most of the players on this list are
going to either be they're not going to be starters

(45:04):
or they're not going to be worth having on the
roster as backups. To me, Ernest Jones and Jaron Reid
are must resigns. And I think Ernest Jones is obvious
why we saw what he did with this defense when
they traded for him, and how much that transformed this defense.
He's twenty five years old, he is in the prime
of his career, has a room to continue getting better,

(45:24):
and linebackers a critical position in Mike McDonald's scheme. We
saw it in Baltimore and now we've seen in Seattle.
He's got to be priority one. And I think Jaron
Reid he had the second most quarterback pressures he's had
in his entire career this year. He might have only
had four and a half sacks, but he was very
valuable getting after the quarterback, did good things against the run,
and I think you cannot overstate his value in the

(45:47):
locker room. He has turned into an incredible leader for
this defense just with by example, and he's really just
become more of a verbal leader. So to me, those
two are the ones you need to re sign. And
I wrote an article on this. The third player on
my list, and that I would resign is probably already Burns,
just because I know he's a veteran minimum and he's
played well when he's been healthy that hasn't been often.

(46:09):
But guys like Trey Brown who lost their starting job
this last year, I think a change of scenery's probably
best for you and for the Seahawks. Lake and Tomlinson.
Thanks for the one year as a starter, but we're
gonna go younger at this position and get better. He
has passed his prime and passed his best years. And
then again a number of guys like Trevis Gibson and
fair Brown who they brought in that did next to

(46:29):
nothing this last season. I just don't see any reason
to bring any of those.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Players back, to be honest with you. RFA is restricted.
Jalen darn Is receiver. I don't care about him. But
Josh Jill, what kind of priority would he be as
a restricted free agent?

Speaker 6 (46:43):
I would give him a tender. I thought he was
excellent after he replaced Trey Brown. And he's still a
pretty young player too. He's only got three years in
the league. He seemed like a really good fit in
Mike McDonald's scheme, and so if you're gonna go that route,
you're looking at around three million dollars. But for a
starting quarter, that's peanut, So I think you got to
give him an original round tender. Darden might be a

(47:05):
player that they don't tender but eventually could bring back,
just because they're looking for stability with the kick and
punt return stuff. But Josh Job to me, would be
up there with Jaron Reid and Ernest Jones for all
the free agency Sattle has in terms of importance to
bring back, because he was really a catalyst for that
improvement in the second half.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
Stone foresythe I also forgot about him. He's an undrestricted
free agent and probably take him or leave him. I'm
seeing probably leaving him.

Speaker 6 (47:30):
He was fifth on my list of ten players. I
could see him coming back. It's like a fourth tackle
on VET minimum. But if it's anything more than that,
he's not going to be back. All right, Cormer Smith
joining us. Bigger thing is this, and I talked about
it with you the other day as well, and I'm
just curious to get your thoughts cap casualties guys that
they can cut, whether it be what in March or June.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
First Chenna seemed Draymond Jones seems to be the top
of the list in that regard. So let's just go
through the twenty twenty five cap casualty candidates. Who are
the guys you think should and are most likely to go.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
I think the most obvious one is Tyler Lockett, and
I hate saying it because of what he's done for
the Seahawks, and I do wonder if there's a possibility
that he could be cut and then come back to Seattle,
depending what the market looks like.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
But thirty one million.

Speaker 6 (48:23):
Dollar cap hit next year for a guy who had
dramatically reduced numbers each of the last two seasons, you
can't keep him at that cap hit. So Tyler Lockett's
going to be the first one, and then I would
say Draymont Jones second, just because he has not lived
up to that contract. He's got a twenty five million
dollar cap hit next year. Those are two players with

(48:43):
bloated contracts that you're just not getting the production that
meets those numbers, and so I think those are the
two obvious ones. After that, Kennan Duosu has a key
roster bonus date coming up. I believe it's February fourteenth, actually,
I think it's Valentine's Day. See if the Seahawks are
going to keep showing him love by keeping him on
the roster, that is one that I'm going to be

(49:05):
keeping an eye on. But as far as other options,
Royal Robertson Harris, he traded for him, no guaranteed money left,
six point six million dollars he can save cutting him,
race On Jenkins you can cut and save a little
over five million with Kobe Bryant submergence. That seems to
me like that is a strong possibility. So those would
just be a couple other names that.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
I would throw out there.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
They obviously have Geno Smith's contract and they need to
try to figure something out with with his cap hit
DK Metcalf as well, But I don't see those two
guys being cap casualty candidates. If they're going to be gone,
it will probably be by a trade.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, you brought up chen and I went to look
at that right away, because his name does come up
every now and then. I'm a Chenna fan. I think
he the problem with him he hasn't been healthy the
last two years, and that's not something he wanted players
normally don't want to get hurt and miss games, but
the reality is he missed a ton of time each
of the last two seasons. His contract, twenty tw salary

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and twenty twenty four option bonus are fully guaranteed on
the sixteenth of February. So yeah, you're right on fully
his I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry. On the fourteenth, you're right,
six million of six million of his twenty twenty five
salary fully guarantees on the fourteenth of February. I looked
at last year, so yeah, six million of that salary
guarantees on the fourteenth, I would assume they let that pass.

(50:23):
And right, don't you think?

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Yeah, if I had to make if I had to
make a guest there, I think the Seahawks look at
the injuries, like the knee sprain, we're here, that dirty
block made on him, Like that's that's his bad luck. Yeah,
you know, I don't think, And honestly, I think there'd
be some issues in the locker room if they let
him go, Like this is a guy that is a
lynch pin in the locker room. He was playing really

(50:45):
good the last couple of weeks as well, once against
Legs back underneath him. So I think there's still optimism that, hey,
we can get those injuries behind us and he can
come back to being the player he wasn't twenty twenty two.
And honestly, his cap hit is in the savings would
not be as big as a number of the players
I mentioned too.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
So what do you do? What do you do with
DK Metcalf? Like, if you're sitting in that office right
now with John Schneider, you know, I think we you know,
he's he's the most god he might be the most
polarizing player on this team in so many ways. I
just I can't get past the fact that they just
don't make guys that look like that. And if you
can find an offensive coordinator that can somehow, you know,

(51:23):
find a way to get him the ball. But even
what he does for the other receivers, I don't think
JSN has the year he has without some of the
coverages that DK had to deal with all year as well. So,
but but that money's huge. There's a lot of money there.
So what do you do with DK Metcalf this offseason?

Speaker 6 (51:36):
If you get a first round pick thrown at you,
maybe you consider it, But.

Speaker 1 (51:42):
That's not gonna happen though, right like, that's that's not
gonna happen. That that I mean, if you look at
what other guys have been traded for, right like, that's
probably not gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
But the reason that it could happen this year is
because this is not a great draft class and there
may be some teams out there that say, you know what,
I'm not gonna be able to get a guy like
DK Metcalf in the first round and draft, so I'm
gonna go out and make this trade. But I think
you'd have to be blown away by a trade offer
to make that move. I think you've got to extend

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him and lower the cap hit for this year because
I still think that there is still a ceiling that
has not been reached. And look, I actually saw the
numbers posted today on social media. The number of intermediate
routes that DK Metcalf ran this year were basically cut
in half. And that is inexcusable. And that might be

(52:29):
another reason that Ryan grubs on the unemployment line right now,
Like it was either you watch the film, it's either
a short curl route or a go rounde. And there
wasn't a ton of in between. There were some post routes,
but I mean it generally was an all or knuckering
approach with DK and I think he's a really good
receiver running digs and flants, but they didn't do that
near as much this year. So I do wonder if

(52:51):
just getting a better play calling situation that you could
really maximize his calend. He still almost had a thousand
yards this year despite that and playing with a somewhat
bum knee in the second half. I just I think
every offensive coordinator that comes in is gonna say, I
don't want that guy traded. No, don't see No, I
don't I don't see any oc candis. They're gonna be like, yeah,

(53:12):
I'm gonna be more excited about this job if he
traded number fourteen.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Like, I just don't see that.

Speaker 6 (53:17):
So an extension seems more likely unless they get blown
away by a trade offer.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah, and even then, like a first round pick, where's
that pick at? You know? Is it picked twenty nine?
Does it picked thirty?

Speaker 6 (53:27):
You know?

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Like what I'm saying is like it's I get the
fact that that you know that a first round pick's alluring.
It's not like these you know, I mean Devin Witherspoon's
been an impact.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
It's a lottery ticket.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
Yeah, It's just it's an interesting thing because I need
to get back, I need to get my trust back
in John Schneider that he would do something with that
pick worthwhile. I guess that's what I'm saying. You know,
It's just it's.

Speaker 6 (53:50):
Been and that's that's understandable.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Absolutely, Yeah, I just that's the part that I find hard. Yeah,
the Draymond Jones ara has got to come to an end.
I think we all agree upon that, and then after
that we'll see what happens at Farrell. Brown's an unrestricted right.
No offense. You didn't bring up no a fan? What
would you do with no afan?

Speaker 6 (54:06):
And yes, spant would be the name that I completely
forgot about. And I feel bad about this one because
I do. I think no Offense could be a guy
that can get you five six touchdowns and get seven
hundred receiving yards. I think that kind of talent's there,
But the situation here in Seattle, with multiple coordinators, it

(54:26):
just hasn't materialized here.

Speaker 1 (54:28):
It didn't.

Speaker 6 (54:28):
You know, he had more success fun in the end
zone in Denver than he's had in Seattle. I think
he's a good player. I think he's a good teammate.
But for what they are getting, you're just you're talking
about saving a little over eight million dollars if you
cut him. A J. Barner looks like he's going to
be a pretty dark good player. I think you can
go get another quality tight end for a fraction of

(54:49):
that price, and you can or you can invest in
your offensive line or another position. And I don't think
you're gonna miss him necessarily in your offense. And I
hate saying that. I think he is a good player,
but sometimes there's fits that don't work as you envisioned.
So I think he's another one that's definitely a possibility
could be cut.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
A great stuff buddy. You know, I love talking football
with you, and we'll keep doing this on Thursdays. It's
so much fun, and by maybe by next Thursday, we'll
have an offensive coordinator. And I know, if that happens,
you've already looked at like every snap the guy's ever
had been involved with, which will be fun.

Speaker 6 (55:19):
Absolutely, I've already kind of I've already kind of started
doing that with a few of the candidates.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Anyway, That's why I think might I'm gonna start calling
my show the nerd Show, because you know, we just
have football nerds on this show, which I love. They
can they do all the heavy lifting for me, all right,
and then we'll talk draft, we'll talk more free agency.
We'll get to all those things in the coming weeks.
In the meantime, where can people find your work or
maybe more importantly listen to your work?

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Absolutely? You can find me on social media on X
and Blue Sky Corpse with the NFL, my writing on
SI Seahawks dot SI dot com, slash NFL st Seahawks
and then Locked on Seahawks five days a week with
my esteem colleague rob Rang.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
You've who oh Rob Rang? Rob Rang? Yes, the podcast
is great with him and Robb so we'll check that
out as well. Locked on Seahawks. We'll talk to you
next week, my friend.

Speaker 6 (56:08):
Thanks, thanks man, I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Corbyn Smith joining us here. Love having them on. We'll
come back. I will talk a little baseball. Andrews poked
poked me at me a little bit, so let's talk
a little baseball. We'll do that coming up next night
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Speaker 9 (56:34):
Down years into Roki Sasaki and you don't even get
a phone call. You don't even get a meeting with
the guy. What are you doing with all that year's
worth of preparation. That better be a wake up call
to you as well. Now you're gonna invest that much time,
energy and effort, and your reputation has become so sour
for not going for it.

Speaker 1 (56:55):
That a prize free agent who should want to be here.

Speaker 9 (56:59):
We're considering how much success you've had with developing pitching
and keeping it healthy. He should want to be here
more than anywhere, particularly Los Angeles with a blowout elbows
as a hobby. He should want to be here. And
you couldn't even get a flip an interview with him.
You couldn't even get him to see all of the
posters you made for him, and the banners and the
confetti that would fall on his head.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
That's embarrassing.

Speaker 9 (57:21):
Yeah, so that's two embarrassing things that have happened since
last we did a podcast. Donovan Solano and not getting
an interview with Rochi Sasaki despite years of preparation to
chat with him.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Well, that's from the podcast. What do we call it again?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
This is the Stove podcast with the shoves, not durs
and nurs. This is the Stove unfortunately not anymore.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
Did and Nerves go away?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
It did go It's Mariner's Weekly now, but you can
find all Stove episodes on the Mariner's Weekly page as.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Well, one stop shop.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
So multiple Mariners podcast is what you're telling me.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, this is kind of the main one with right,
but yeah, during the off season, so it's the same episode.

Speaker 7 (58:08):
Right.

Speaker 2 (58:08):
If you just want off season stuff, there's the Stove page.
But I do stuff during the season for Mariners Weekly
as well, and then this is my off season.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
That's that's one fired up, pissed off Charles Powell.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
I just heard right there. You'll hear a about an
hour long of that. Well, listening to then, I'm exactly
I'm in baby, let's go. Yeah, So I'm gonna get
back to Sasaki to Rokie here in a second. What
what's what's his beef with with Donovan? What's his name?
So Donovan Salono? Basically he said, I mean it's embarrassing

(58:42):
that they even considered that a move.

Speaker 6 (58:44):
I love it.

Speaker 9 (58:45):
Yeoh, I love it.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Like this is fine if you make a couple of
big moves and then he's like the cherry on top,
Like okay, he he said, people compared it to Jorge
Polanco and Colton Wong. That's that's wishful thinking if that's
what you're comparing it to. This guy's more like a
call me la stella move like a veteran who like
you hope there's something there, but maybe like that's that's

(59:07):
who this guy is.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Nothing.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
So the title of the episode is still no Moves
for the Mariners, even though they technically made it.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Move whoa I can we check with Nathan and get
confirmation and hash hashtag no.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Moves conceded that no Moves is finished, but I still
I still argue that they still have not made a move.
This is this doesn't count.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
So Solano is yeah, is I know? Isn't he just
older off brand Dylan Moore? Can you play a bunch
of positions and he makes decent contact sometimes that Dylan
Moore can actually play defense like this guy can't. Okay,
so this guy is worse than off brand Dylan Moore, Yes,
probably better offensively, he can make contact, has no power. Well, Dylan,
Dylan's got pop Yeah, Dylan Mortle. This guy can put

(59:52):
the ball in play better than Big Deal most on
the whatever he maybe he has in the past, he
won't hear thirty six, he won't hear. Yeah, that speed
slow down. Things like that happen. Yeah, there's a reason. Okay,
So I like that because I'm with that whole thing.
Like Baseball Information has to put out who they sign.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
So even if it's you know, even the end of
the day they when they didn't get who was well Solano,
they announced the day they didn't get Sasaki, which was
just dumb, like that's just like bad pr like you
know what, wait a day.

Speaker 2 (01:00:23):
But Chuck was even saying, you don't even announce it,
like they shouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
But but but they do. That's their job. Their job
is to announce it. Because they've announced every other slappy
that's that's that basically backup catcher that had two games
in the majors, backup second basement that's had one game
in the May. I mean, all these guys that they've
signed allegedly in the offseason, allegedly they have they're all
quad a guys at best, right they announced those guys.

(01:00:47):
I'm just saying, like from a pier, like the timing
on Solano just wasn't just really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Well, and like not that Mariners fans should have expected
to get rookie Susaki, but the fact you didn't even
get phone that's on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
And I don't want to bury the league because I
think that's what Chuck was saying there. I think is
really worth listening to again because and the whole pot
Obviously you guys do a great job, but I think,
you know, like Chuck said, and I think that's what
I thought all along. I kept holding out hope with
Sasaki is that we're not talking about bringing this phenom
position player here, like the next show, Hey Otani from

(01:01:20):
Japan to a ballpark that nobody wants to hit in
and nobody can hit in, or complains about batters eye
blah blah blah, marine layer and then you know, marine layer,
marine layer, all these things that they complain about, Right,
that's not what we were talking about. We're talking about
bringing a picture into a picture friendly ballpark that's known

(01:01:41):
for before I get to the baseball side of things,
it's connections to the Pacific Rim. Absolutely a Hall of
Fame er that just went in. That is as big
as sports star as this country has ever had in Japan.

Speaker 2 (01:01:56):
And it's still around. Yeah, and he paved the way
for people of his country.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
And like Jester though, he's still here. Yeah, yeah, like
you're not just coming here. Oh hey, each Row used
to be around. No, he's hell, you'll probably have to
throw BP to him at the age of fifty one
because that's what he does still, because he's each your own.
He's crazy. Yeah. And then let's get into the other
side of it. What Chuck's like. Yeah, the Dodgers, I
mean they had like twenty five pictures on the on

(01:02:21):
the IR last year.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
They throw their pictures arms out, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
And here they treat them with kids gloves, They put
them in a position to win, they develop young pitching.
And you would be added to this and I mean yeah,
the fact that you couldn't get even a Noel, you know, like, hey,
thanks a lot, let's meet, you know, just give me
a give me the I don't want to say that,

(01:02:46):
but give me the just give me the That just
begs the question no, no, no, But it would just
just give me a token interview. Yeah right, yeah, I
mean those exist all the time. They exist in the NFL.
It called the Rooney roll, Like, yeah, that's what it. Oh, hey,
we interviewed David shop Okay, come on in, Ben Johnson.
But you know that's but it's it's that's what it is.

(01:03:07):
Like you can't even get that. Chuck's got a great
point there, and and you know, I even thought about
the Dodger side of things with the pitching issues that
they've had, right because you have to, you would have
to look at that, and you'd have to. And isn't
his one of his big concerns. His VLO has been
out down for a little while. Yeah, like tell me
how to fix it? Well, this organization with all their
nerd and analytics people, they shouldn't they be able to
do that in their sleep.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
And the fact that they have a clean record good
to the baseball side. Now they they're the opposite of
the Dodgers. They've had like three straight seasons of really
good health and a lot of people think that, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:38):
Would you put Robby Ray in that category?

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
That's like the one one and he was older, Yeah,
he was older. Yeah, And that's gonna happen. That happens
around the league. But it's past the point now where
it's it's, oh, we're lucky that our pictures have been healthy.
I think they do a good job of keeping them healthy.
And you say treating him my kid gloves and they
do that to some extent. But they they've been able
to get full season is out of the majority of
their pitching staff for the past.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
Yeah. Whatever they're doing from that standpoint is it works,
and there's no doubt about that. So yeah, I think
it's it's a disappointing. It's just putting on a lot
of levels. I know, you know, everyone kind of looks
Dodgers money bubb exactly. Sure, all those things are are true.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
The thing about Sasaki is there's there's a cap on
how much that can spend on him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
So it's not well and that's the thing, and that's
the thing that's most frustrating. It's not like you got
out bit.

Speaker 2 (01:04:27):
No, it's that he chooses where he wants to go,
not based on money, but based on what's going to
be best for his career. And it should have been here,
but it wasn't obviously very much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:36):
So it wasn't so all right? What else on the pot?
Is that basically the two big Yeah, we talked.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
A little bit about if MLB chev as salary cap.
I think that's becoming part of the discussion now. I
think it's one thing for LA to kind of get
all the big money signings of the show. Heyo Tani's
the Blake Snails of the world. But if they're starting
to get the like we just mentioned that, the sasakis,
which everyone can't afford. Is there a problem in baseball?

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
The answer is yeah, yes, The answer is yes. The
answers yes. I don't think one man's opinion. When when
salary caps brought up in Major League Baseball, almost always, inevitably,
the blame is put on the players for never having
a salary cap. I don't know if Major League Baseball

(01:05:20):
wants a salary cap. When I say major League Baseball,
I'm talking about the guys in the big offices, not
just the incompetent dipstick commissioner, but everybody there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
That's one thing all baseball fans can agree on that.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yeah. Yeah, but well he didn't like baseball. He doesn't so,
But I don't think it's that I don't think it.
I don't think it's maybe so much owners and players.
I think if you're sitting there in Major League Baseball offices,
you like the fact that your big market teams are
always the ones that are good Men's in the playoffs

(01:05:53):
last year, Yankees in the playoffs last year, Dodgers in
the playoffs last year. Having LA and New York markets
TV markets in the playoffs is good for your overall
business when you get to the playoffs, which is where
you make your money on your media rights deals and
all those things. Having the Pittsburgh Pirates play the Seattle
Mariners in a World Series would be baseball's worst nightmare.

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It's what hockey goes through every year. Oh the Florida Panthers,
fun team, great team to watch, but no sex appeal
for people outside of you know, diehard hockey for the right. Yeah,
that's that's brand. Yeah Yeah. Winnipeg's gonna get to the
Sandy Cup Final this year. People will lose their mind
at the NHL officers. They'll do whatever they can to
make sure that never happens again because they'll have no
TV numbers. But in baseball, if you can give those guys,

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how awesome Is that? Right?

Speaker 7 (01:06:39):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
How awesome is that? The fact you can get those?
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Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
Bull Tending isn't quite as good at Logan Thomas as
good is really good, and they're probably a deeper team.

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Based on the top top end. I mean they have
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Alex Ovenskin, Alexevenskin is twenty one goals, shy of passing
Wayne Gretzky for the most goals in NHL history. He
came back on December twenty eighth from a fractured fibula,
has scored six goals in thirteen games. He's scored twenty
one goals in thirty one games this season. May do
it before the end of the season. One of the

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all time greats, Chandler Stevenson, played with him in Washington,
won a Cup. I believe with him as well in Washington,
and Chandler Stevens is now with the Crack and talking
about his former teammate Alexandrovetch.

Speaker 10 (01:09:00):
You know, he's one of a kind, enjoys coming on
the rink, always loud, always fun. I think even if
he does break his record, he'll still keep playing just
because he loves being around it so much.

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
And yeah, he just has fun with it.

Speaker 10 (01:09:14):
I think that's, you know why he's had so much success,
is that he just has fun every day. You know,
whether you're on the road, you're at home, it's he's
always the same. So his mentality, I think, is what
kind of has made him out to be. And obviously
the preak athlete as well. Obviously he has a big
part to play with that. Just how big he is
and how well he can move. That's something that being

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the type of guy that he is and how he
is every day is you know, something that I try
to do with myself and my mental side of it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Just have fun with it. I've never heard a teammate
even a note of negativity about Alexandrovitchka.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
That is weird because he doesn't have an awful reputation
around the league, but it's not the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Brightest well, because he plays hard and there's a little
greasiness to his game, but in a good way. Yeah. So,
but there's never been a teammate that said anything bad
about even whispered anything bad behind his signs about him, right,
and that wasn't like Mark Messi eight kind of not
a great guy, right right, I'm just looking at guys

(01:10:18):
that are on the all time point leaders. I mean,
Mario awesome guy, I think in a lot of ways.
But you know, I mean Mario missed a lot of time.
Mario would have been the guy probably to put up
the numbers, but back injury and cancer kind of slowed
him down. Sid's gonna play forever. Probably, he's awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
I love watching exactly, But you know, Alex Evechkin reminds
me of who I'm a soccer fan, Okay, Chris Chann Ronaldo,
like media doesn't love him. He's like kind of known
as a selfish kind of guy that scores lots of goals,
but he loves putting teams on his back. And then
every single teammate that he's ever had says good things
about him.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
Yeah, I and I think honestly, Andrews, that's that to
me kind of says more about somebody and their legacy
than anything the teammates. Yeah, yeah, because I mean I
heard some bad stories about Mark Messi over the years andmates, yes, yes, yeah,
especially when I was in the miners and some guys
that have played with him just kind of didn't have
kind things to say about him. But you know, Wayne's Wayne.
He's just a different level. You know, Wayne's Jordan, right,

(01:11:15):
I mean that's a good Yeah, Wayne, Wayne Gretzky's Michael
Jordan just would win. But the yeah, Alexanderveskin is just
a He's a special talent man, just an absolute special
special talent. I'm excited to watch him play to Night
in person. I don't think I have yet since they've
been here, So yeah, I'm excited to watch him. A
good test for the crack of the night. They've won
two straight, they've won four of their last six. They're

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kind of turning it around. They're taking on a team
that we just mentioned, you know, if you want to
go buy points and all that stuff, best team in
the league and a team that's won five in a
row in the Washington Capitals. It's a big test.

Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
They're starting Charlie lynd Green to night. Not so maybe
maybe a little.

Speaker 1 (01:11:51):
It doesn't unless you're starting the Devon Levi kid from
the other night with Buffalo the worst coolie and it
doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
Damn he went there.

Speaker 7 (01:12:02):
That guy was bad.

Speaker 1 (01:12:05):
The Kraken have been goalied a lot this year. In
other words, they've they've been beat by incredible goaltending play
on a few occasions this season. Sales done that to Joey.
That wasn't the case Monday. Joey was okay, great, Levi
was awful. Yeah, like he's a he. I'm not sure
if he'd start for the tips of the t birds
right now. I think Rats laughs better than him, and

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Rats laught is a buffalo guy. I'm they should have
called his ass up for that game all right again,
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I'm sorry, Yes, I'm here here, I am cors Light
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say that a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
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He'll be with you six point thirty tonight. Okay, seven o'clock,
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He's gonna join us. Coming up next, we'll talk about
Washington's game tomorrow with UCLA and where they are a
lot of we'll have conversation about the Zags their struggles.
They got beat twice last week in WCC play. Our
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Mick cronin. Mccron in is coming to town tomorrow with UCLA.
We gotta travel to Seattle. My god, horror, they'll be
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three point three k ter FM. Oh god, I mean
driving home my good charter flight all the way up
from LA to Seattle.

Speaker 3 (01:14:36):
And didn't he used to have to do that anyway?

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
Yeah, exactly, I've seen the statue of liberty. My team
is soft. Who that might be? That might be one?
I root for Washington and that's a hey, oh boy,
you put me in that position, Mick man, what are
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Well you got Lamar, we got.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
Really that would be a weird thing. Sorry, Josh Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:12):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Okay, Gary Parrish standing by.

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Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
All right, here we go pick thanks to our friends
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I watched him last night, late at night in New York.
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which we're gonna get into today. We're getting ready for
college hoops. Gary, my friend, how are you?

Speaker 7 (01:16:09):
I'm doing okay? I tell you there is nothing you want.

Speaker 11 (01:16:12):
More in the world other than your help, of course,
outside of the last game on a Wednesday night to
end in regulation when San Diego State and Air Forces
I have to play an extra five minutes.

Speaker 7 (01:16:22):
That that messes up. That messes up a night for
a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
Hey, I'm gonna ask you just a general question because
I think and for people to know, Gary does a
local sports show as well in Memphis, and so he's
talking not just he's our college basketball guru. We all
know that that's the why you go to him, but
he does everything across the country as well. I got
to ask you about about replays because that game last night,
there were I don't know in the final five minutes

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or two minutes of regulation and then throughout the entire
overtime there were so many replays that took so long.
And you know, the joking college basketball is is it
takes twenty five minutes to play the final two minutes
right like in that and we'll see that drink march
madas as well. Is that an issue in the sport?

Speaker 11 (01:17:04):
Yes, and it's one that needs to be addressed. And
last night was a great example and the latest example.
But we'll have another one tonight and another one tomorrow
and seventeen more on Saturday. Anything inside the last two
minutes that is, you know, falls under this pretty big umbrella.
They're allowed to go to the monitor and look at it,

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and they can just keep looking at it and just
keep looking at it. So San Diego State Air Force
last night, there's this moment at the end of regulation
where they call it goaltending. It's clearly not I looked
at it on the first replay and it was like, Okay,
it's clearly not goldtending.

Speaker 7 (01:17:41):
Let's get on with it.

Speaker 11 (01:17:43):
And they stood there for another six minutes looking at
it to put like one tenth of a second left
on the clock or back on the clock. So it
really bogs it down. Not to mention it messes with
the competitive balance of everything.

Speaker 7 (01:17:55):
Suddenly.

Speaker 11 (01:17:55):
San Diego State playing at altitude last night, that could
be a factor, but they get time to rest because
the officials are over there looking.

Speaker 7 (01:18:02):
At a monitor.

Speaker 11 (01:18:04):
Ole miss Mississippi State over the weekend, Chris Beard is
getting like three free timeouts in the final ninety seconds
because the officials are over at the monitor and his
team's with him. He doesn't have to use the timeout
to get that moment, but he gets it because of
this system. So it is something that needs to be addressed.
I don't mind using the monitor. I like the idea
of getting it right when you can get it right,

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but we don't need to spend this much time doing it.
I would like to put a clock on it. Go
to the monitor if you need to. You got sixty seconds.
If you can't figure it out in sixty seconds, the
call stands.

Speaker 7 (01:18:35):
Let's get back to playing basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
Yeah, there's no doubt that game was fun to side
it last night with San Diego State getting extra times
and all that. All right, let's get you had a
great one last By the way, I see you're heading
back to Memphis to day because you don't want to
be there until what two in the morning to watch
my cougar's take on Santa Clara. Is that right? Because
that's on CBS Sports Network tonight.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
Tonight we got a quadruple header.

Speaker 11 (01:18:56):
And though I love to work and feel very fortunate
every time I get to sit in the studio in midsom.

Speaker 7 (01:19:01):
Man Ad, I am thrilled to be going home, if
only for just a couple of days.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
All right, Well, we'll let you off the hook. Coog's
in Santa Clara tonight. That's the final game of the four.
I'm sure there'll be all kinds of stoppages in the
final couple of minutes, and Gary will be sound asleep
by the time that thing happens and finishes off at
about two in the morning Eastern. I'm gonna get to
top twenty five and one rankings and just kind of
talk about seating because we're getting to that point, you know,
and there's already there's already bracketologies up everywhere and all

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that kind of stuff. Jerry Palm already doing this thing
before I get to that, though, let's I want to
look back. We talked about Washington and Washington State last
week briefly with you at the end. We're sponsored by
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to me, the owner of Nolai Brewing, about his Gonzaga
Bulldogs and the struggles they're having it started last Friday
or last Thursday on CBS Sports Network. Not everybody can
go in to gil Coliseum in Corvallis, Oregon and uh
and get a win. And that was not the case
because Gonzaga loses to Oregon State. Mark Few complains about
having to jump on a charter that will take, by

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the way, wheels up, wheels down, about fifty minutes to
get back to Spokane. He's back. They're back in their
beds by one o'clock in the morning. He's complaining, all
we got to turn around and play Santa Claara on
Saturday night. This isn't Mick Cronin. This is in the Northwest.
But that kind of set the tone because they lose
it at Oregon State. Then they get just annihilated by

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the threes by Santa Clara. What's going on with Gonzaga?

Speaker 11 (01:20:38):
You know, if you go back to the beginning of
the season, they blast Baylor and it looks like, oh Man,
Mark might have, you know, another Final four contender, National
championship contender. And then they back that up a few
weeks later with a win at San Diego State by
double digits. And not many people go into vi Ajas
and win there. So suddenly the Zags are, you know,

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listed as potential champions and you know, very high up
in the AP pole and everywhere else. And that was
all by November eighteenth. That was more than two months ago,
and they've done very little in the past two months.
They're two and five and Quadrant one. The two Quadrant
one victories they're the ones I've already mentioned fourth and

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November eighteenth. It's been more than two months since Gonzaga
added a Quadrant one victory. They're now two and five
in that quadrant, and they only have two more or
three more opportunities based on current projections, to get Quad
one wins in the regular season.

Speaker 7 (01:21:41):
So you're ready for this.

Speaker 11 (01:21:42):
As crazy as it sounds, the Zachs could win every
game left on their schedule and still be five hundred
at best the in the first quadrant, which is going
to impact your seating. I guess that bottom line at
this can't instablate like one of the four or five
best teams in the country. Like they're playing well, they're

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blowing everybody out, but based on the missed opportunities that
have already you know that they've already missed on and
the lack of opportunities going forward, they're going to have
a problem getting the type of seed that they have
routinely gotten, you know, over the past decade.

Speaker 1 (01:22:18):
Yeah, we'll talk more about them as as it kind
of comes down. Let me get to an individual thing
before we get to the actual teams that are kind
of in contention and running around and doing things. Gary
Parris joining his courtesy of our friends at NOLA Brewing.
Gary Duke is number two in your top twenty five
and one. This is the first weekend, this is the

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first Saturday I should say that we have college basketball
kind of on a standalone. Unless you want to watch
the NBA or the National Hockey League.

Speaker 6 (01:22:47):
This is it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
There's no NFL games on Saturday. There's no college football
playoff games on Saturday. So there's gonna be more eyeballs
tuned into college hoops this weekend. Tell us about Cooper
Flag and number two Duke at least in your top
twenty five and one.

Speaker 11 (01:23:00):
They are becoming, if not the biggest story in the sport,
obviously one of the biggest because they now check every
box you need to check to get national attention.

Speaker 7 (01:23:09):
Let's start with the obvious. It's the biggest brand in
the sport.

Speaker 11 (01:23:13):
There are other big brands Kentucky, Indiana, Kansas, North Carolina, Gonzaga,
but Duke, I believe, is the biggest.

Speaker 7 (01:23:21):
Brand in college basketball. They are great. They're going to
run away with the ACC.

Speaker 11 (01:23:28):
They are number two in the ape pole right now,
but number one in some of the computers, specifically number
one at kN Palm right now with a net rating
of plus thirty six point seven to one. I know
that number means nothing without context, so let me give
you some context. Remember the Connecticut team that won the
national championship last season, when thirty seven to three blew
out everybody in the NCAA tournament. That team finished with

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a net rating of plus thirty six point four to three.
Right now, Duke is plus thirty six point seven to one.
This Duke team right now is performing better than the
Connecticut team that ran through everybody last season. And what's
making it even more remarkable than it otherwise would be
they're starting three freshmen and their best player just turned
eighteen years old four days before Christmas. This is happening

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in an era where most coaches will tell you you
can't win with freshman anymore. You need to have maybe
one five star freshman, perhaps two. But if you get
too reliant on them, it's a recipe for disaster. When
you're dealing with twenty three year olds that are being
bought out of the transfer portal combined together and creating
incredible teams at Alabama, Tennessee in places like that, go

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get freshman heavy and you'll get your brains beat in.
That's the prevailing thought in the sport and John Shire
at Duke is blasting that out of the water right now.
He could win a national championship in his thirties as
a third year coach. They could win a national championship
starting three freshmen in a time where people tell you
you can't do it.

Speaker 7 (01:24:54):
And Cooper Flag right now is on pace. This is
not hyperbole, this is true.

Speaker 11 (01:25:00):
Cooper Flag is unpaced to go down in history as
the youngest National Player of the Year in college basketball history.

Speaker 7 (01:25:06):
That's all on the table right now.

Speaker 11 (01:25:08):
And at least that last thing I said, National Player
of the Year for Cooper Flag, that seems almost a
lot at this point.

Speaker 7 (01:25:15):
Barring injury or him just falling off of a cliff,
nobody seems to think as likely.

Speaker 1 (01:25:21):
Well, and Gary Perry Shorni's courtesy and no lib brewing.
Look for in local grocery stores, No lib brewing. Cooper
Flag just turning eighteen. And the reason you're saying that,
I think people want to be saying, Wait a second.
You know college basketball, haven't you know teams with lots
of freshmen won a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:25:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
No, today's landscape is what you're talking about, portal slash
nil deals. Guys are staying longer. We just saw a
two time National Player of the Year that was there
produe his entire career and stayed all the way through rights.
That's what you mean by that?

Speaker 11 (01:25:47):
Well, okay, players are staying in school longer than they
used to, because if you were a Hunter Dickinson ten
years ago, it would just be like, Okay, I don't
know if I'm going to get picked in the NBA,
but I need to get on with my career. The
clock ticking, as they say, and I just need to
go make a paycheck wherever I can make a paycheck.

(01:26:08):
If that's Spain, then it's Spain. If it's Australia, then
it's Australia. If it's the G League, it's the G League.
But it's time to go get paid. Well, now, you know,
hundred Dickinson is making more than a million dollars at Kansas.
He's probably making more money playing basketball right now than
he'll ever make playing basketball anywhere ever again.

Speaker 7 (01:26:24):
And that is going on all over the country.

Speaker 11 (01:26:25):
I've got a story coming out tomorrow about a basketball
player down at Ole mess And I'm told every scholarship
player at Ole miss Everyone, like the thirteenth guy who
plays two minutes a game, They're all making hundreds of
thousands of dollars, all of them. So these players are
staying in school in ways that they otherwise wouldn't. So
the talent levels better beyond that. And this is the

(01:26:47):
real trick when it comes to trying to recruit the
way John Calipari did at Kentucky, Mike Skizhski did a duke.
You know, go get five freshmen and try to win
it with that. The issue now is that back then,
when you were trying to do it, if Tennessee or
Alabama or UCLA, you name it suddenly needed a point
guard for next season, they would have to go get

(01:27:10):
whatever the best high school point guard is left, and
that kid would probably be eighteen years old.

Speaker 7 (01:27:15):
And ranked one hundred and seventy fourth in the country.
He can't help you right.

Speaker 11 (01:27:18):
Well, now, what you do if you need a point
guard and you're at one of those types of schools,
you go find the best mid major point guard in America.
You go find the Sun Belt player of the year
or the Summit League player of the year, and you
buy him and you bring him to your campus. So
if you're Tennessee, you do that with Dalton Connect and
he's the SEC player of the year, and then you

(01:27:39):
lose him and you go buy Chaslinear from North Florida,
and now he could be the SEC player of the year.
And so now when these other schools need to reload,
they're not reloading with freshmen that are worse than your freshmen.
They're reloading with twenty three year olds who are better
than your eighteen year olds. And that's why what is
happening at Duke right now is really really unusual and

(01:27:59):
frankly a little surprising. We all knew Duke had the
most talented roster, NBA draft picks and all that stuff,
But can you win in this era with eighteen year
olds when you're this heavily reliant on them? A lot
of people thought, no, not to this degree, but Duke
is doing it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Gary Perris, Jornis, chrisy Nol, I bring all right, speaking
at Chaslan near at Tennessee. You've got him number six
in your top twenty five and one. They've got one again.
They got a big one this weekend. You're a college
basketball fan, even if you're just a casual. One. Number
one in Gary Parrish's poll. The Auburn Tigers, Bruce Pearl
and company taking on Tennessee. Those are both potential number
one seeds, both potential national champions.

Speaker 7 (01:28:37):
I assume, no question.

Speaker 11 (01:28:40):
I mean, I believe at this point we've had three
different number one teams in the a people of this season.
Kansas started there, then Tennessee got there. Now it's Auburn.
So two of those three teams are going to be
playing each other on Saturday. Obviously, Auburn right now is
operating short handed. Their best player, and the guy who
was the leading candidate to be national player here before

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he got hurt was Jeni Broome. He suffered an ankle
injury two saturdays ago. It's unclear if he's gonna play
this weekend. Auburn hasn't ruled on that yet, but just
as somebody who covers an NBA team who watches people's
spring ankles all the time, if Jani Broom were a
Memphis Grizzly and his ankle turned like that, they would
have the next morning ruled him out for a month

(01:29:22):
immediately and just said we'll.

Speaker 7 (01:29:23):
Look at it then, but it's going to be a minute.

Speaker 11 (01:29:26):
I'd be surprised if he'll play tomorrow. But Auburn has
proved in his absence that they're really good without him.

Speaker 7 (01:29:33):
I mean, last week they played two.

Speaker 11 (01:29:35):
Games without him for the first time the season, two
top twenty five teams, including a Mississippi State team that
was ranked in the top fifteen. They beat them both
pretty easily, beat Mississippi State bad. So this is an
Auburn team that might be the best team in the
country with Jeni Broom and might still be a top
ten team in the country without him. So they'll still
be favored to win even if he isn't playing. And
Bruce Pearl, after taking that school to the Final Four

(01:29:57):
for the first time in history a few years ago,
he's got a chance to go even further this time.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
Gary Paris joining us. How is what's the word out
of the Big Twelve? It's the conference itself is a
little bit different. Maybe this year the SEC is the
best conference in the country. We talked about that last week,
the additions of the Arizona schools, the addition of Utah
BYU along the way. Big one this Iowa State really
good basketball team. They come off a loss and get

(01:30:22):
a big win yesterday or on yeah, Tuesday, I guess
it was i awowys say number three, your top twenty
five to one. They've got the Arizonas this week, Bobby
Hurley's Arizona State team. And then really a fun matchup Monday.
Right We've got Iowa State in Arizona coming up in
Arizona's playing a lot better right now.

Speaker 7 (01:30:39):
Yeah, it's still weird. You hear these matchups sometimes and
they're just yeah.

Speaker 11 (01:30:43):
It's like and UCLA is at Rutgers and it's like
what And it's like, oh, yeah, well of course they're
in the same league. And here's another one, like okay,
Iowa State, you're running through the Big Twelve, what's next, Well,
we're going to Arizona for a couple of games. What
this is the landscape of college athletics now, but geograph
doesn't make any sense. But the Big Twelve, after being

(01:31:04):
ranked the number one conference in America in all of
the computers in most years recently and almost always in
the top two, his rating as the third best conference
in the sport right now, behind both the SEC and
the Big Ten. So it's a little down Faylor, which
has been a consistent Final four contender in recent years,

(01:31:24):
a little down unranked right now, Kansas preseason number one
is still good, but not as good as we thought
it was going to be. So the league is still deep, strong,
and you know, filled with multiple national championship contenders, but
it is not what it's been in recent years.

Speaker 7 (01:31:41):
And some of that is because you know, the SEC
and Big Ten have have elevated itself.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
All right, let's wrap it up with Gary Parisha with
this tomorrow right here on nine three point three KJFM,
the Washington Huskies at heck Evanson Pavilion, Alaska Airlines Arena
in a traditional Big Ten matchup, hosting the uc LA
Bruins rolling into town. I don't mick, is Mick Cronin
gonna be okay, It's he's got to fly up the

(01:32:07):
West coast. It'll be about a two and a half
hour flight. I'm hoping by the time. Actually, as we're
talking to he should already be here. Mick Cronin's UCLA
Bruins are four and four, they're thirty in the conference,
thirteen and six overall, and he's just melting down on
a daily basis, Gary complaining about travel, saying his travels hard.
Team's flying west. It's not hard for them. What's going

(01:32:29):
on with your guy? That's your guy, Gary, that's your guy.

Speaker 7 (01:32:33):
I love Nick.

Speaker 11 (01:32:34):
I've known him for a long time. Some people think
we look alike. I I find him humorous more than
I find him troubling. But I can understand why people
are tired of the complaining. Like nobody wants to hear
multimillionaires complain about their private planes and how much time
they have to spin on them. Right, So it's never
gonna play the right way. But his point is understood.

(01:32:58):
You know, last week he went on this ramp where
it's like, I'm the coach at UCLA, and I've seen
the Statue of Liberty twice in the past three weeks
that probably shouldn't happen.

Speaker 7 (01:33:07):
I've also seen the Capitol.

Speaker 11 (01:33:09):
That probably shouldn't happen, but this is you know, when
you chase as a university, you know millions of dollars
and you are willing to scrap geography, traditional rivals, and
everything else.

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
This was always going to be what you were dealing with.
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:33:26):
I guess I've been following the news a little bit.
Our country could be expanding into Canada or Greenland or
who knows, But as of right now, I don't think
the country has changed much since UCLA decided to join
the Big Ten. You know, New Jersey is still where
New Jersey is. In California is still where California is.
So everybody understood what the score was, and when you

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talked about them in advance, they would consistently tell you
it's just another hour, ninety minutes on a private plane,
will be fine. So if you didn't complain about it,
then I don't really have much interest in hearing you
complain about it now out But if you say something funny,
I'll laugh at it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
What real quick? What's the team like that we're going
to see here in Seattle tomorrow? I mean, like I mentioned,
they're five hundred conference thirteen and six overall scuffling a
little bit along the way. I know they had high
expectations this season. What's that. What's Stanny Sprinkle's team going
to face with UCLA tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
Well, they were ten and one to.

Speaker 11 (01:34:19):
Start the season and like borderline top ten team, and
it looked like, okay, Mike Cronin's got a Final Four
contender after a disappointing season last season. And then they
went on a four game losing streak and Mike was
ranting and raving after every game about travel and it
looked like it was getting sideways. They have bounced back
in one two straight, so they've stabilized. Like if the
season ended today, they would be in the NCAA Tournament,

(01:34:41):
no problem. But unless they have gotten that stretch of
games where they lost four in a row and five
of six out of their system, you know, then they
could get back to a troubling spot. So I don't
know how to answer the question, like are you going
to see some you know, the team that started ten
and one or the team that just lost four, because
those are two very different teams in terms of performance.

(01:35:03):
But the talent is there, the ability is there if
they put that in their past then you know, Watchington.

Speaker 7 (01:35:09):
We'll have a hard time winning that one at home.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
Yeah, Sprinkle Steam plays hard, and they played hard against
Purdue last week, they played hard against Oregon on Tuesday.
They just they're just not good enough at this point
in time. So all right, Gary, I have a nice
day or two at home before you're backup. I'm assuming
back up in New York for the for CBS.

Speaker 11 (01:35:29):
I'll go home today and I'll reintroduce myself to my family,
and I'll jump on a plane Monday and come right
back here to the city.

Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
It's a it's a busy time, but it's fun and
it does fly by.

Speaker 11 (01:35:40):
Like earlier, I think I mentioned it's January twenty third,
like the season's halfway over, and I swear it feels like,
at least in my head, it started two days ago.

Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
It's really flying by. It's been a blast so far.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
Well, we love having you, and we'll talk to you
next Thursday. Thanks Gary.

Speaker 7 (01:35:54):
All right, brother, I see it about

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