Furness Show 4-21: Jon Haarlow, Joe Sheehan, John Lund

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, here we go on a Tuesday EDG of the show.
We're back in the studio. Are we on the tube today?
On the YouTube? Yeah? No, absolutely we are.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Let me see here are all over the place.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
I don't see it, but maybe, oh wait a second,
there we go. I just gotta know if Mike works
where I'm at. This microphone is just pissing me off. Man,
I'll be honest with you. Yes, it's getting a little flaccid.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
There we go.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Okay, but why is that word funny?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
I don't know. I don't know. Either needs the microphone
needs an endorsement from something Blue tablets. Okay, Uh, what
do we got going? We got kind of a We're
gonna dance around a little bit this first hour of
the show. Because John Harlowe is the new athletic director
Washington Universy. He's gonna join us at twelve thirty. I'm
glad he's coming on today. Where's my notes? Three hour show?

(00:47):
I gotta make show notes now?

Speaker 4 (00:49):
Thrilling, thrilling.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
There it is on the on the let's reminiscent of.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
This is taking me back to my days in the
press box covering the Hawks. I had a notebook that
we were using today anyway. Yeah, we're gonna talk to
John Hurle. It's good because there was something I wanted
to bring up today anyway that I didn't get chance
to yesterday with college hoops, college sports and all that.
So we'll have John on coming up at twelve thirty,
first time I have a chance to talk to him
as well, and then we'll get into our buddy Joe

(01:21):
Sheen is going to join us today at one twenty
week we visit with Joe with the baseball team conversation.
Eh da da da baseball team. You do a postcast
what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
The manager happened right after we had that discussion yesterday.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
And this is gonna be a problem, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, like Dan such a good d That's what sucks
when things go wrong for someone you.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
But it really feels more and more like that's just
if you missed our Moullywop conversation yesterday, take a peek again,
take a list and download the podcast or whatever we
do these days, and a listen because at the second
segment of Molly Wop I brought it up and now
he had guys that weren't available yesterday right out of
the bullpen.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Supposedly. I don't understand why Bizarto wasn't available because he
didn't pitch now two days ago, okay, but he did
pitch three of the five, but two of those three
were eleven pitch outings. He should have been available in
my in my ass.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
So and said Gonzaga guy goes in there and gets
lit up, right, beans, they call him beans whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
By the way, I have to make a correction, my bad.

Speaker 5 (02:33):
I was reading Monday's words, so I apologize for those
out there. The word of the twelve o'clock hour is
actually rich? Are I c chh?

Speaker 6 (02:42):
Wow?

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I'm having a day?

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Are I c h geez?

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Also purple sheet's name, and also you want to be rich?

Speaker 4 (02:51):
But that's kind of the main context of us.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
I would assume the rest of the words are all
money related.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
But anyway, the twelve o'clock hours rich.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
Okay, well done? All right, So there we gone ninety
three three kjer dot com. Go in it there, don't
text it. Go to the website. That's the whole point
of the contest is go to the website. All right,
So we, like I said, we're kind of tweaking things
break wise. Today, we're gonna take a quick break, we're
gonna come back. We'll set up a couple of things
I want to discuss with John Harlow, including today, by

(03:20):
the way, is the last day that the portal is
open for college basketball. And I got I got something
I want to just throw at Husky fans and Cougar
fans held Gonzaga fans. If you're listening, doesn't.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
Knowledge at basketball or sports fans.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
That's I want to throw something out there. And because
Softy talked about it a little bit, he said something
last week that really stuck to me. It was and
I thought, and I think you spoke for a lot
of fans and some I'm gonna discussed with John Harlow
bott the hour.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
We'll get to that.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I broke a cardinal, cardinal rule of my own self
last night, and Andrews caught me on it. We'll get
to that at one o'clock today. That was he caught me,
yep and just called me out right away.

Speaker 6 (04:01):
How did you?

Speaker 4 (04:02):
And just but he called me out and he threatened him.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
So I've got to come clean at one because he
called me out on our text chain last night.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
We need to do confessionals on this show.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Well, that's what's gonna happen at one o'clock.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
That's that's confessional.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
Less be father for I have Sinn coming up at
one o'clock today, music for you.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
All right, we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
We'll talk about something I think we can all relate
to in college sports coming up next.

Speaker 7 (04:27):
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Speaker 4 (04:40):
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Speaker 1 (04:46):
All right, we're back. Welcome in here. We are cruise
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If you're watching on the YouTube, we're on the YouTube.
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Speaker 4 (05:03):
Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
The fun thing about the YouTube is, uh, you can
interact with other listeners, viewers, each other, us whatever. We'll
send angry responses back. Now this is we don't do
that on this show. I go I send anything angry
back unless you're really mean to us. I don't think
we figure out yet how to block it.

Speaker 4 (05:23):
I know how to. Okay, good, that's just me.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
You do that if you need to. Yeah, John Harll
is going to join us a new Washington State athletic director.
So I just I called SOTS because I want to
make sure to put words in his mouth. But he
said something last week that resonated with me. The transfer
portal for college basketball closedes today, and before you switch
the channel, I'm not into college basketball, hear me out.
And I'm dead serious about that. Yeah, because I know
we're all into it during March badness and when Gary

(05:46):
Parrish comes on. But I bring it up for this reason.
One thing I'm gonna talk to him about. I don't
know what the answer is or how long it's sustainable.
I saw this yesterday. I mean use this as an example,
but I'm gonna bring everybody into the conver station, not
just Wazoo. Miles Rice, who was a massive part of
Wazoo going to the tournament three years ago, great story.

(06:08):
Young man had cancer. He red shirted as a freshman
with Kyle Smith. His second year, he also had a
red shirt, was a medical red shirt. Because he had
to fight cancer. He beat he beat it, beat cancer,
cancer survivor, comes back for what is now his red
shirt freshman year, helps lead Washington State to the NCAA

(06:30):
tournament three years ago with Kyle Smith along with Jalen
Wells and some other dudes that ended up going on
for big things. But Jalen Wills ends up being runner
up for Rookie of the Year last year and all
that stuff, all rookie team for the NBA. But Miles
great story of course, Kyle leaves goes to Stanford, Miles
rice size transfer. He's going to go to Indiana, goes

(06:53):
there for one year, doesn't Things don't work out. They
don't go to the tournament. They spent a ton of
money Indiana two years ago in the portal and it
didn't work out. They missed the tournament, fired the coach.
Where you go? He goes to Maryland this year. He
goes to Maryland. Started just four games out of the
seventeen he played at Maryland, averaged average four points or
something in a game. He was a fourteen point eight

(07:13):
point a game guy at Wazoo, ten points at Indiana,
five point six at Maryland. He's getting worse, it hasn't
worked out for him. He entered a transfer portal yesterday,
a day before it closed. He will play four schools
in four years. Now, Wazoo fans like, maybe he's coming home.
Maybe he's coming back to Wazoo. He's not from our area.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
I doubt it.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
But even if he does it does it it still
makes my point. Four schools and four years. Three schools
and four years. This system doesn't work. I'm asking you
guys a question, though, Is it harder? I don't If
you say a kid can transfer resilient times, that's fine,
That's not what I'm asking How hard is it to
be a college basketball fan? And here's where I brought

(07:54):
Softy into the conversations. I heard him say this last week,
him and Dick we're talking, and he said, I don't
even care about Washington basketball anymore because you can't build
anything lot, you can't look forward to the next year.
It's like, hey, you know what we showed improvements under
Danny Sprinkle, Zoom's coming back. All these dudes are coming back.
Manda Quid or whatever his name is, is coming Nope, they're

(08:16):
all leaving. I think it's impossible and our two schools
in this state are not immune to it. Gonzaga had
a great player from around here, Michael Jaye. He went
to Kentwood, ended up playing one year at Gonzag after
being at Pepperdine, transferred to Butler or someplace. This year
they were so so like they I think they might

(08:38):
have had a play, not didn't play a game. I
think they should have been a turning team.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
They weren't.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Anyway, no one's immune to it. Kentucky is losing their
best players. Arkansas lost one of their best returning players.
No one is immune to it. Kansas has nobody left
on their roster. Is and I'm gonna ask John Harlowe
this in a few minutes when we have one. I
think it is becoming really hard to be invested in

(09:04):
college basketball, more so than college football. College football, there's
still a big turnover, but it's not as great depending
on what number you want to see, but I'm gonna
go with the highest number I found today. Over sixty
percent of returning college players in college hoops Division one
are in the portal. I think that number is actually low,

(09:29):
just based on what we see in our state. I
so when people say and John's gonna tell us this,
we need people to donate. Why what am I getting
any money for for a guy to come for one
year and leave?

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
I think one of the best parts of sports at
any level, college pro is the player development. You get
to see a player grow from right something when you
have when you're talking about college basketball and your entire
roster's gone, What even is that it used.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
To be when the portal first open, it would be
well and for football and basketball, Well, kids don't want
to can Pete anymore, right, And I don't know if
that's the case now. What it is is if it's
four schools in four years or three schools in four years,
you're just always looking for just a couple extra bucks.
You're not developing relationships. You're not anyway. You said, you

(10:16):
know what's really cool? What's the step that nick Emon
warr is gonna take this year with the Seahawks?

Speaker 6 (10:21):
Awesome?

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Like, what's the step he's going to take? What about
Gray's Abel? What step will he take? You just talked
about player development. I'm gonnak at the cracket. We just
talked about this. Seline Lambert yesterday. What step is Berkeley catting?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
God?

Speaker 1 (10:35):
To take from a nineteen year old to a twenty
twenty one year old next.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Year, and that's what gives you, like promise for the
next year.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Can you imagine if you had that in with with
pro sports, Well, Berkeley, it'll be. It was fun seeing
he developed for a year and now it's cool transfer.
Now you're playing for the LA Kings. Awesome. Yeah, that's
pretty cool. Yeah, we'll start all over again, reconstruct a roster.
I just don't know how it's sustainable. I also know
how it's healthy. But I'm asking you get this question
four nine four five one four nine four to five one.

(11:00):
Is it even worth your time to be a college
basketball fan anymore? And that's for Husky fans, Cougar it
doesn't matter. We're all the same boat. Hell, I could
be doing this show in Kentucky right now, and you're
a huge college bast I'm a huge college basketball fan
and my I love watching college basketball. I'm just not
invested in my own team anymore, and I don't think
I ever will be again unless something changes. John Harlow's

(11:21):
new athletic director wahing State. He will join us coming
up next Don't forget four nine four five one your thoughts, comments, questions,
and concerns.

Speaker 7 (11:32):
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Speaker 1 (12:00):
The two Longs. I heard that great song, way two
long since I heard that great song. Thank you Anders,
Thank you Jess. Welcome back in for that's with you
here at noon hour on a Tuesday afternoon Sports Radio
nine three point three KJRFM here in Seattle. I'm joining
us right now in to Beacon Plumbing Hotline. My first
chance to speak to this man. All I hear are

(12:21):
tremendous things. It's got some heavy lifting to do, but
everything I hear so far is all nothing but positive.
He is the new permanent athletic director at Washington State University.
John Harlowe joined us right now. John, Good afternoon, Congratulations,
how are you Ian?

Speaker 8 (12:39):
Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited, I'm grateful
appreciate the opportunity to connect.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
I can't wait to meet you in person. Like I said,
all I hear are great things, and it's interesting because
it felt like it took a little while for this
to come to fruition. You took over back in November,
and I don't know with President camp Well, if you know,
she's kind of hearing a lot of different things. We
want to do this so that hires somebody from the
outside of the inside. All you did was grind during

(13:07):
this time and you were named the new athletic director
on a permanent basis. What does it mean to you?
What does this opportunity mean to you specifically because you
went from introim to permanent and you know, it was
a rather long process, so it sounds like you had
to kind of work to get here.

Speaker 8 (13:24):
Yeah, it means it means everything to me, quite honestly.
I care so much about this department, this campus, this community.
It's been It's embraced me with open arms in my
family since since I got here. Whatever the outcome was
of this process, I wanted to make sure that we
did everything to set up whatever the next phase was.

(13:45):
I'm so grateful for the team we have got a
We've got a tremendous group of coaches, a tremendous staff
that care a lot about where we are, where we're going.
I think they believe in it too, and to continue
to be with them and partner with them on what
we think is going to be an incredible fall in
a new PAC twelve. I couldn't be more grateful and

(14:06):
more excited.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
You came to Washington State in twenty twenty one, so
you saw the best of times in some ways and
then honestly the most challenging and some would say the
worst of times with the demise of the PAC twelve.
Not everybody would want this job. As I mentioned, there's
a lot of heavy lifting a lot of us me.
I love Pullman, I could live there tomorrow, and I

(14:27):
love Washington State. But not everybody wants to especially in
your business, in your world of athletic directors, not everybody
would want that challenge. Why do you want this challenge?
Why do you want to do something that is going
to be really hard to do in terms of getting
this thing back to where we want it to be.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
Yeah, it is a challenge, But at the same time,
I take great pride in that, and I think the
team is structured in such a way We've got some
growth opportunities there and continue to build that out. But
I think you know, as you mentioned, I got here
year when we were solidified and had a position and
what would be the legacy PAC twelve. And I've seen

(15:06):
what this community is capable of, what Pullman is capable of,
how special Cougar football Saturdays are, and those meant the
world to me and my family when we first got here,
and I took it kind of personal when some of
those things happened to the PAC twelve and to us,
And I believe in the fact that we can get
it back to a place where our former student athletes

(15:26):
and our alumni are proud of and I think that
those opportunities absolutely lie ahead, and so I took that
again very personal that I want to see those my
family wants to see those get back to a place
where the stadium is packed on a Cougar football Saturday
and this community is buzzed, and I believe that we
can get there.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
John Harlow joining this new athletic director watching the State University.
I had a chance to talk to President Countwell this
December it was and we had her on the show.
Really impressed with everything that she said. It was during
the process of the head coach leaving our football team
after just one year and the challenges we were going through.
I say, we as Koog's all the way around. And

(16:05):
you know at that time you were there, you were
the introm athletic director. But President Cantwell struck me as
someone who is in it for the long haul, in
it for the right reasons, and likes a challenge and
also understands that we can get to where we want
to be both on campus, academically, enrollment and everything else.
Let me ask about athletics. What about President Cantwell allows

(16:28):
you to believe that this is a good job because
you're not taking it despite all the things you just
told me. You're not taking that if you don't feel
like you have the support of upper campus. That hasn't
always been the case in Pullman. What is it about
President Cantwell that makes you believe that we have the support,
You have the support as the athletic department does of
upper campus.

Speaker 6 (16:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (16:48):
She's continually been really vocal about the importance of what
athletics is for our institution and how that can grow
our brand nationally. An increase enrollment in the New Pact weelve,
we have opportunities. Some of our hottest enrollment markets are
in the New pac twelve footprint, and she's been very
bold in being out there and vocal about how important

(17:10):
athletics is to driving this institution further into the future,
and that raises the academic boat, that raises our research opportunities, etc.
I mean, I believe very much that we hold the
keys to elevating our brand here in the athletic department.
And when she's out there making very confident statements like that,

(17:30):
I absolutely put makes my job. When I know that
she has our back and the trust and she believes
the same thing that we do, that we absolutely can
raise the profile of this institution through our competitive fields,
makes the conversations I'm having out there a little bit
easier because I know that we're aligned and know that
she trusts where I am and I trust where she is.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
The job an athletic director feels like it's changed over
the years, and you can speak to that. And I
believe one of the reasons that my understanding is that
she decided to go with you in this role is
because of your strength and fundraising, which we've already seen
with football and the locker room and some other things
that you have accomplished in a short amount of time.

(18:15):
What is the job of a present day athletic director.
I know what changes every school. John, Probably it's different
here than maybe it is at Michigan or Ohio State
or Alabama, but maybe more similar to Colorado State or
the other teams in the Pac twelve. Maybe it's similar
to your predecessor over at Washington. I don't know what
does a job today. How would you describe the role
of an athletic director in today's college athletics.

Speaker 8 (18:37):
Yeah, that's a great point, and you know, it continues
to evolve, not just over time, but even throughout the
course of a day or of a week. You've got
to be multifaceted and it's become much more dynamic position. Yes,
we have to be out there fundraising, but you also
got to make sure that the coaches, the student athletes,
and the staff know that you have their back in

(18:57):
the contest that they're heading into, the situations that they're
heading into. And so it's a very versatile role to
be in. But the fundraising and I've seen what the
power of the coops can do, and I believe the
group that we have here on staff, we've been able
to cultivate some really meaningful relationships, and that's in fundraising,
that's in partnerships, that's making deals, and those are what

(19:18):
we have to continue to leverage and do moving forward
in order to get ourself to a place that we
have the resources to execute appropriately. And so a lot
of my day to day I pop into you know,
it's made practices and workouts and competitions as I absolutely can,
but a lot of them is building relationships and building
opportunities to make deals and partnerships moving forward. And so

(19:41):
it's it's an extraordinarily relational day to day.

Speaker 1 (19:44):
I want to I'm going to come back to that
in a second. I do want to talk about your
new football coach and Kirby Moore. Uh my buddy John Canzano.
I heard him on his podcast at John Wilner the
other day and they were just you know, effusive in
the praise about Kirby Moore, or maybe they kept referencing
how the fact that maybe his alma mater is going
to be a little upset when they see this guy

(20:05):
hit the field as a head coach that they didn't
grab him before before Wazoo, did you oversaw that the
hiring a Kirby I got a chance to meet him
at the queen An Beer Hall, which once you get
to town, it's owned by a couple of koogs and
you need to come out here. We'll have a plant
and hang out together because we had a great night
with Kirby. We had a great night with Kirby at
the beer hall here in the shadow of Climate Pledge Arena,
and it was I mean, he just I've never seen

(20:27):
anything like that. He spoke to every fan and took
pictures with every fan, look people in the eye, which
I can tell you honestly, the previous coach didn't. We
had him in the studio, didn't look me in the
eye one time. A weirdest interview I've ever had. And
good riddance. But what is it about Kirby Moore that
jumped out at you? Besides his football acumen? What was
it about Kirby that jumped out? Because that is the

(20:48):
most important hire any athletic department is going to have
at the Division one level.

Speaker 8 (20:54):
Well, I think nailed and his football pedigree and accomplishments
for themselves, but his ability to be personable and engaging.
He understands how much Cougar football means to this area,
in this region of Washington into the state of Washington.
You saw him that night in clean and Beer Hall.
I've seen him at eight or nine other stops where

(21:16):
he works a room. When I say works a room,
he looks everyone in the eye, he shakes their hands,
He finds ways to engage him. He doesn't require, you know,
a handler for lack of a better term, that many
other coaches might say, Hey, I needed to go talk
to this person. I needed to talk to this person.

Speaker 6 (21:31):
You know.

Speaker 8 (21:31):
You look over and he's scooted his way into a
booth and he's having a conversation with a group of
koops and it's like he's known him forever. He and
his staff are incredibly authentic and genuine and it has
been a really, really good partnership from the jump. So
I'm grateful for him and his leadership.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
Yeah, it's interesting the last two guys that did that
in a weird, strange way. Mike Leach was that way.
I did a few events with him, and Mike was
that way. Now, Mike was eccentric, and you know, Mike
was Mike was a unique individual. But Mike had no
problem talking to anybody. Now, usually it wasn't about football,
had nothing to do with football, but I think a
lot of Koogle alums would tell you he did that.

(22:09):
And of course Mike Price was the same way, and
Dobs was too, and those guys all had success at Wazoo.
So I think that's a big part of it, because
there's still a grassroots effort to connect with the community
along the way. I can't wait to see what he's
got in store for him as well. You made the decision,
along with President Countwell to keep David Riley on board.
What would you tell Wazoo fans about David Riley that

(22:30):
would give us hope that maybe that basketball program can
get back to where it needs to be. Yeah.

Speaker 8 (22:36):
I believe in Coach Riley and what he's done, what
he's capable of. It's my job as leader this department
to make sure he has the resources to be successful.
There's been a lot of instability since he's gotten here,
but he's been able to prove success in other seasons
and if you look at what he's done in the
transfer portals so far this year, we have a lot
of talent headed to the Polue next year. It's been

(22:58):
really fun to see him fill out his Our group
is dedicated to making sure he has the resources into
putting him in a position to be successful. It is
an extraordinarily tough Pac twelve basketball league that we're headed
into next year. He knows that we know that, and again,
I think the roster talent that he's built this offseason

(23:18):
speaks to his relationship with those student athletes and his
ability to put a system in front of them that
they believe.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
That they can win.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
With John Harlow join us Washington State athlet trick. This
is a bigger picture on and we were just talking
about this in our show a minute ago. I love
college basketball. I just I like the sport and our
Afternoon guy, Dave Softy Maller. Hopefully you won't have to
run into him too often, but you will at some point,
and God speed on you that one. But the Softie
mentioned something last week on his show, and I feel

(23:45):
the same way. And he's a Husky fan, and that
is this. It's hard to be a college basketball fan
more so than college football. College footballs a portal and
people are moving. But if you're a college basketball fan,
and this is kind of just I'm just curious of
your thoughts on where we're going world is probably needed.
I think we all think it's a great thing. Young
men and women should get paid for what they're worth

(24:07):
and whatever they might be worth. It might be a dollar,
it might be one hundred thousand dollars, might be a
million dollars. Whatever it might be, they should be paid.
At the same time, when I see players playing for
four schools and four years, more so at college basketball
than anywhere else, it's hard hard to be a fan.
Is this sustainable? Like? Does do we need to see
something happen where it's not four schools and four years?

(24:27):
And what can be done? Because me, as a college
basketball fan, I don't want to invest in Wazoo basketball
because I'm going to pay for a guy to be
there for one year and go twelve and nineteen. It
just it doesn't seem to make sense. What would you
tell people like me?

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (24:41):
I get it, truly I do, And it is difficult,
especially with a smaller roster composition. The market doesn't make
any sense right now for where some of those student
athletes are going into the dollar value, the shakeup is
definitely more prevalent than than we're seeing in other sports.
I do think that there needs to be something done that,
and there are continual conversations at the state and federal

(25:03):
level about what can we do to minimize the impact,
mitigate the transient nature of where we are because it's
not healthy, it's not sustainable. It's not healthy for the
student athlete, quite honestly, because who are their go tos
once they've been at four schools in four years. Who's
there to supportive on that once that's done, and if

(25:24):
they've even made any academic progress at that point. So
those are hot button items that are continually discussed by
committees at various levels. And I do think that we're
going to get to some sort of change here, and
I don't know what the timeline is. I hope it's
sooner rather than later, because I do believe that there
needs to be some sort of parameters put in place

(25:45):
to control this, because it's not healthy for anyone. At
the same time, my job, and I believe our coaches jobs,
is while the money is going to talk a little
bit to these student athletes, it's certainly a deciding factor
in some of their minds. We want to establish a
culture here to where it's hard for them to leave
that they know that they're supported, they're loved by the community,

(26:06):
by the staff, that they're supported in such a way
that it is an experience that supports them in all facets. Again,
competition classrooms sets them up long term. Well, we can't
control the impact of what's the money that may be
thrown at them. We can at least impact the culture
that what they're in when they're here as a coupe.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
John Harlowe with me a couple more moments. Can Washington
State financially compete in the new PAC twelve with everybody else?
And how do they do that? How do we do that?

Speaker 8 (26:36):
I think that we can, but it's going to require
an all hands on deck effort. And I believe we've
seen the power of what the coups can do in
the past. They show up in the masses. We've got
one of the bigger living alumni bases in the PAC twelve,
two hundred and fifty thousand strong. We've got to activate those.
And that doesn't mean everyone is expected to be a whale.
It's just getting involved with the capacity that you can.

(26:59):
We've got some extraordinary business owners out there. We've got
extraordinary CEOs and CFOs and C suite individuals across our
alumni base. They're passionate. We've got to activate them. And
it's not just from donations. We've got to I mentioned earlier,
We've got to continue to make strategic partnerships that drive revenue,
that drive anil opportunities. We've got to fill up our

(27:20):
venues because that support leads. That's the gateway to getting
involved again. We've got an extraordinary amount of wealth in
the state and within our alumni base, and we've got
to continue to activate them. That's the ticket moving forward.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, why do you think that's never happened before? I
had that conversation with Jake Dickert. That's two years, three
years ago, I guess it would have been. And he
asked me, as as someone who used to be involved
a little bit more in some of the fundraising events
and stuff that I was. He says, what like, I
always hear there's money, like you just said, John, I
always hear that, and then we don't see it. And

(27:52):
I said to me, you got to have the right
people in place. I mean, there's people that were great
fundraisers back in the day that aren't with the school anymore.
But man, there's there's a lot of people that are
at a high enough level. You just mentioned it. Business
owners help people high enough up in the Fortune five
hundred companies. Companies in our state are that are wazoo lums.
I feel like they've never been reached before. How can

(28:12):
you guys reach those guys? You said, Yeah, there's a
grassroots need and the collective and all those things, but
how do you find a way to get those doors
open to the people that really can make a difference financially.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Yeah, we've tried to be a lot more aggressive and
bold in our approach. That meaning we're getting out across
the state, not just the expectation of people getting over
here to pullman, but try to meet them where they are,
whether that's in southern California or you know, the east
coast or certainly the west side of our state. We
want to meet them where they are, try to educate

(28:45):
people on what the needs are. There's been a cultural shift,
not just in the anc DOUBLEA, but even even here,
and we've seen some erosion of the donor base as
the transient nature of the ANCABAA has changed. And I
believe with the group that we have in place, we
can re establish some of the those authentic and genuine
relationships because they've got a very relatable group in place,

(29:06):
and it's gonna come back to their belief in our
in our mission of being authentic and genuine and leading
the Cups into this new league. And I absolutely believe
that it's possible.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, there's a lot more to get to, but we
will do that down the road if we could. Let's
just make this when when you're over on the West Side,
when you're in Seattle next and I know you will be.
As you mentioned, there's doors knock to knock on. There's
there's places like Amazon and Microsoft that you that I
know you're talking to people with. So when you're over here,
make sure you come in. Let's let's get you in studio.

(29:35):
Let's get you over here. Let's have you swing by,
and I'd love to see you in person in studio,
love to sit down and have this conversation and some
other topics we can jump into as well. But in
the meantime, John, like I said, I hear nothing but
good things about you and h and certainly a president
can't well as well. So I'm thrilled to have you
on board full time. I know a lot of Wazoo
fans feel the same way. Congratulations on the new job

(29:57):
and can't wait to meet you in person over here
in the near future. Thank you, sir, Thanks so much.
I and we'll talk to you soon. Gokug's that is
John Harlow, new athletic director at Washington State. I think
just for for the non Wazoo fans, they're the thing
that jumped out. He said it. It's just that the
where we're at right now is just not sustainable. It
just is not It does not work. And that's why

(30:19):
I brought up Miles Rece earlier. And there's rumors Will
in the back at Wazoo, and people say, oh, you're
gonna be happy he's back there. It's I don't know
if he is or not. Don't even really care. I
find myself just being a fan of the sport, but
not a fan of the team that I used to love.
And I I've suffered through a lot of bad basketball
last year watching those guys before I finally gave up,

(30:40):
And but then I'd watch other games and go, God,
the product is so good. Then you know, you see
college basketball, you see guys that are sticking around. There's
so many players today that are now. I mean they're
waiting to see if former Wazoo guy Ruben Chinnelou is
sticking around at Florid. If they do, they'll be the
number one team in the country coming into this season.
And you said it earlier. They're making money because they
can make money, but just chasing an extra buck or

(31:03):
two across the country and going to multiple schools over
multiple years just does not make sense to me.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Well, I think that was my big bugaboo when it
comes to the future of college athletics.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Is it not being a team sport anymore?

Speaker 5 (31:18):
So it's you know, and especially it's so prevalent in
basketball because it's the smallest amount of people that you
have on the court at the same time, so one
change makes the difference in everything, and every guy being
out there just for himself. I mean, sure you can
play really well with other people, but it's not what
college athletics was, which is building a team, building relationships

(31:39):
everything that John Harlowe was talking about. And I think
it also on the football side speaks to how well
Kirby Moore has done.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Yeah, I I and you know, it's it's it's hard
because and I would just go back to what Softy six.
It just really resonate with me. And Energy brought this
up as well, like player development, watching guys get better
over the years is really cool. I'm old, so I
watched and covered and worked. I was working at Como

(32:07):
and I covered the ninety one Husky championship team. I
was with them for I think all but one road
game and all the whole like we were with those
guys all the time. Como was a Husky partner at
the time. Television wise, Bruce King did the postgame show.
I put a headset on guys afterwards. It was awesome.
And the fun thing about that is I also remember

(32:28):
the day that Mark Brunell, Lincoln Kennedy, Steve Epman and
that group came in for their first day freshman day
at Washington. We did interviews with those guys and they
were kids, they were babies, and then three four years
later their national champions They grew with that program. That
never happens in today's world. It just doesn't happen. Last
year's national champion, Indiana undefeated a great story. They'd never

(32:51):
had success f football before. Good for them all transfers,
yeah right, yeah, And at least in football. Michigan was
all transfers this year. Four of the five of the
top six scores.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Right, And at least in football you can try and
you know zag when other teams zig and go the
Dabos Sweeney route. Oh, we're not gonna do the transfer portal.
We're not gonna do all that stuff and works out
for them.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
And Clemson is not nearly what they used to be
because they don't have that new school thought.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
You're right, but even in basketball, you can't even do
that now, there's no one that can do that because
everyone just answers enters the portal.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Ula A lot UCLA is a tournament team. They lost
their starting point guard. Yeah, okay, I went through the
list of the day. I think out of the top
of the Sweet sixteen teams, like all sixteen lost a
key guy, not to the NBA, but just lost a guy.
I just that, And that's part of the problem because
you can't You can't be John Harlowe or the athletic
director at Washington or whoever it is and say give
me money for anil. We need your donations because where's

(33:46):
that money going help. Let's be honest. The quarterback of Washington.
Doesn't want to be here. He doesn't want to be here.
He was forced to be here. And I've said this
before and I'm gonna say it again. Good on the
Big Ten. And I don't like saying that makes me
want to puke to say good on the Big ten,
Like I don't want to say anything nice about that conference,
but the Big Ten in Washington said, dude, no, no, you're

(34:09):
you signed a deal. You signed a deal. But the
problem is he can still get out of that deal
after this year. Yeah, yeah, like the second of season's over,
decent chance he's out.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
That was one of the most bonkers things I have
seen so far. And something else is going to come up, Like.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
You, but that was a good precedent because it was like,
but as soon as season's over, that you know he
wants to be gone. So but like you're saying, he
spend some money for what yeh?

Speaker 2 (34:36):
For what right he used to go to?

Speaker 1 (34:37):
I mean, but if I knew guys, sorry, if I
knew guys are gonna be there for three or four years, right, like,
and I had the money and the donation, and I
want to I'm a lot more willing to do so
if there was like or even two years and I
know I don't want to look at the text line yet.
I will later two thirty. I'm sure we can hear.
But coaches can do it, Yes they can. But there's
a buyout. There's always a buyout. There is always a buyout,

(35:00):
and they have to pay a financial price if they leave.
All right, So anyway, four and four to five one
play su Choose on big Thanks John Holo coming in.
Impressive guy. We're gonna we're gonna try something here in
a second. Yes, it's so, we're gonna go to confession
I made. I just had a I wasn't a mortal
sin last night, but it was a sin. It was.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's great, Well, we need to make show commander.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
It was the sin of hypocrisy, is what it was.
Oh boy, it was a sin of hypocrisy. We'll talk
about that next.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
No.

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Thank you yes, pleasing with thanks. Got computer issues here,
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Speaker 1 (37:12):
All right, two o'clock out, one o'clock hour, one o'clock out,
two o'clock hour. Here we are hanging out, lots of fun.
Joe Sheenel join us in about twenty minutes. We'll talk
to him about baseball Mariners. The hell's going on? They

(37:34):
I didn't look at the box real fastandards. Yeah, offensive
what they do last night.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
You know, they weren't awful the sport. Four runs they did,
and all four before one of the night anyway, but
they actually, like Josh Naylor, Cal Rowling, and Julio Rodvegez
all hit for the first time. Cal had an option
field home run he did, Julio got two hits, and
Josh Naylor got two hits. So uh. But the thing
about their offense is they got the three runs within

(38:00):
the first two innings, and it felt like they could
have easily put it away, and then they just kind
of stopped. It felt like they kind of knew the
game was over at that point and stopped taking team
at bats, so to speak. They kind of more like,
all right, I can just swing away pat my stats
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
It's a little taste of the postcast with Anderson Hurst game. Yes,
that's that's why I ask you, because I was doing
other things. So I watched the hockey last night. I
was into the hockey.

Speaker 4 (38:25):
Yeah, what were you doing last night? I watched Carolina
Ottawa Okay, Dawa great game, great game, Edmonton Anaheim, great game, game,
tuned in in and out of Minnesota and Dallas, and
then had.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
The Mariners going as well. By the way, my you
you chriped me about my multi view, I tried it. Okay,
it's it's limited on the channels apparently.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah it is, Yes, PIANAA is Yeah, it's stupid.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, so I kind of I wish you could choose
two different That's what I was trying to do. Yeah, yeah,
because then I would have watched but I, you know,
back and forth with the Mariners hockey playoffs. Yeah, and
then I found myself last night, bless me, father, for
I have sinned. So Edmonton Anaheim NHL playoff game ends,

(39:15):
and I had half a cocktail left.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Is that all?

Speaker 6 (39:21):
No?

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I literally had half a cocktail left, okay, And instead
of just powering it down, I said well let's see what.
Oh well, lo and behold there's a game on still
not a hockey game, not a baseball game. Erners were
already done. Nope, there was an NBA playoff game.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Clutch his pearls.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
Bless me, father, for I have sinned. Yes, I'm the
guy that said I refuse to talk. I said I
refuse to talk about the NBA regular season.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
That it's funny the goldposts have moved now.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
So like I have been telling you guys, I'm not
into this whole nonsense. I can't do it. I texted
a picture. I was watching Denver in Minnesota last night,
I said. I texted a picture to Jess Nanders said
breaking the boycott. Anders. Oh wow, I'm saying you did

(40:25):
this on the air tomorrow, no matter how much you
diny it.

Speaker 6 (40:27):
So I knew you would.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I'm beating you to a punch. This is my confession. Okay,
this is my is my sports confession. In front of it,
you're not being I'm very much not Mike Vrabel. I
am very much in front of it. I am admitting
I watched it all. I might even admit the following
I might have watched a little bit over the weekend
as well. What just a little bit, not a lot? Well,

(40:49):
because I was rooting against the Blazer, So I watched
san Antonio kick down, So.

Speaker 2 (40:52):
You enjoyed it?

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Little?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Hate watching you watching? No, I hate watching one hundred percent.
I hate watching.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
Who are you hate watching?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Last night?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
I don't like the nugget because it's Denver. Yeah, he's there.
You know what. I'm anti shockey teams, ANTI have anti nugs.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
Let's go. Gotta be nice to have two teams in
the playoffs right now. Huh.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
We'll get to that in a heartbeat. Stand by on
that one. We're so yeah. This is my sports confessional.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
Man, I watched.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I watched NBA. I watched about eighty percent of the
fourth quarter last game. Good game. Uh timberwls down nineteen,
came back one. Okay, the guy they call ants pretty good? Yeah,
basketball thirty and ten, Yeah, I have I'll and this
is a this is not Mike Rabel. I'm being honest here.
I had watched no more than ten minutes of NBA

(41:44):
basketball until last night all year.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Okay, So what are your thoughts? Give us your give
us your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
So my thoughts are this officiating in that league is
an absolute embarrassment. I we all want to complain about
Major League Baseball umpires, NFL referees not being full time.
I think the NHL guys are the best, although I
thought they were awful, awful last night in Carolina Ottawa
awful And then who's my guy, Ryan Gibbons, former t
Bird's run the lines? Who they just they were not good,

(42:09):
But they're the best. It's a tough game to reft,
I think. I think if I'm ranking them NHL number one,
NFL number two, MLB three, and people are gonna sink,
what yeah, MLB three? They get more right than they get.

Speaker 4 (42:25):
Wrong, especially now at the Challenge system, it's less NBA.
I don't even know why they're there, Like, why are
you guys even here? And they act like the show
here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
They do their own reviews. So I hang on, let
me see you. It was one of the old guys,
James Capers, who was the guy who was the official
last night? Is it not listed here in the box?
Find that for me? The Tony Brothers brothers, Oh buddy,
you gotta call wrong. Look at the video and admit it.

Speaker 4 (42:57):
Admit it.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
The game itself is just not basketa. It's just all
one on one. It's all isolation. It's all one on one.
But here's the thing. Playoff basketball is fun. It just
is like it just is. It's like everything's it's a whole.
It's like playoff hockey. Everything's amped up. Everything's that much better.
Now when I have a choice, about ninety percent of

(43:21):
the time, I'm not watch an NHL playoff game. Yeah.
Number two on that list will be Mariners baseball. Number
three will be case in point half a cocktail left.

Speaker 5 (43:31):
NBA playoff, abandoning this cocktail with no sports.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
I'm just trying to I'm trying to somehow Father, as
I give you my sin, I'm asking for forgiveness. I
really don't want to have to recite fifty our fathers
and fifty Hail Mary's. I really don't want to have
to do that like back in my days in our
Lady at Fatima. Oh, I don't want to do that
Hail Mary full of grace. Anyway, I'm having all kinds

(43:55):
of PTSD right now.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Oh my gosh, how many did you have growing up?
I had three, two antiques and probably.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
Still they're probably still at my mom's house. Yeah, I'm
probably still there a bad Catholic. Yeah, and because you
had to like the little beads. Every one of those
was his prayer, right, one, two, three and all that
wasn't it?

Speaker 8 (44:16):
Was it?

Speaker 4 (44:16):
Each one of those is our father? And then the
big ones was the hail marriage. Is it flipped?

Speaker 1 (44:20):
It might be flipped. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
It was just using to count because he's a.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Hoft, he's an expert on the follow and the last
came in three o'clive.

Speaker 5 (44:28):
Well, you know what I would like is ideas from
our listeners on what our penance could be.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
No, rather than my penance is telling you guys, he
doesn't want anyone tell Penance.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
Listen my pen This is not you guys telling me
to go do X, Y or Z like you know,
father level getting out in front of it. I'm getting
out in front of it because Andrews are gonna sell
my ass. He was one hundred percent to sell me out, dude,
and I'm not listen. I understand. I would have done
the same thing if you. If I would have got
a similar text from you or you, I would have

(44:59):
said I'm selling you out tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
If I would have said I'm rooting for the Edmonton Oilers.
You would have been like, I am selling you.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Okay, this is confession, right now. Put the music on again.
Where's the music? Get me that music out, Get me
that music. Get me that music. All right? You're you're
you went to Seattle. You that's a good Jesuit school, sir. Sure,
it's a great Jesuit school. You were kind of rooting
for the Oilers last night. No, yes, you were. I

(45:26):
could tell the text chain. Admit, buddy, this is confession.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
I'm not not lying.

Speaker 4 (45:33):
I swear to God. I like watching Connor McDavid as
a hockey player.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
That doesn't mean I want the Oilers to the playoffs
better with Connor McDavid, Yes they are. Would they be
better if he got to the second round?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
Yes, yes, if you're looking at it from an objective viewpoint.
But I am not objective, sir. I am a subjective
sports fan who hates the Edmonton Oilers and their fans.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
I'm telling you, man, I was reading between the lines
on that last night, and I know you were. You
were one hundred percent you wanted to hear Pink Pony
Club play after the game, which is their their winning anthem.
They play in Edmonton, of all places, the most blue
collar city and what Canada. Yes, they played Pink Pony

(46:22):
Club out there.

Speaker 4 (46:22):
They have a no I think it was because last
year they played it and they went on this run.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
They want to Yeah, yeah, so they they have they
have an outdoor viewing party and all these things and
they're all dancing a Pink Pony club and it's.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
It's hilarious.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
It's and they're a bunch of funny and they're a
bunch of oil rig works.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Just like as blue collar as That's what.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Makes it kind of fun, right, But you know what
I do like that?

Speaker 1 (46:48):
Yeah, anyway, that's I'm gonna get.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
I'll give you.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Here's the deal. We'll find the time. We got this
whole new show thing. We got to figure out extra hour.
We'll find a date we're gonna do. We'll do sports
Confessions once a week. All right, Yes, we're gonna find
we can't do it every day, We'll do it once
a week or as needed as needed. I think if
someone decides they're going to sell somebody out, I need

(47:11):
to go back and go through this our multiple text
threats we have because I know there's something in there
from either Bento, Oh yeah, Nathan or Crawford or you yeah,
I listen. I unlike Mike Creable, I got ahead of
it today. I got one hundred percent ahead of it.
But I watched the NBA and I didn't hate it.
I didn't hate it, didn't hate watch the Nuggets and Timberls.

Speaker 6 (47:34):
Part.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
It was the Nuggets losing. You know, it's weird too.
I root for them a couple of years ago when
they won it all the Nuggets, I think why, I'll
tell you why. It's Yeah, it goes back to what
you said about with David. I just love the joker.
I like the guy that looks like me out there.
Just I mean, he's just he is just.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
Better than he likes.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Yeah, he doesn't like that, doesn't like I get to
go home now.

Speaker 4 (48:00):
After they wanted, I gonna go home now, come done.
One time.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Most guys lifelong dream. I want a championships, a ring. Yeah,
now I gotta go home. Yeah. Do you see his brother?
His brother almost got a fight with a dude the
other night. I love I know, but the one guy
was like leaning over the sweep.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
I would not mess with those guys.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Straight up, like a serbian gang members.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, roll into the arena with their floor suits and
all that, and it's just like, yeah, fella, I love.

Speaker 6 (48:30):
I know.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
All right, that's it for today. By my confession has done.
Four nine four five one. If you want to chime
in four nine four five one, that's Takoma Dodge text line.
Also will Yeah, we'll take some talkbacks as well. We
love those.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Jus tell us where we need to confess on. You know,
Ian will not accept it, but I will.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Yeah, yeah, this is we gotta just nip this thing
in the butt.

Speaker 4 (48:50):
It's all done.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
We're good. We're good. I did watch it last night.
And actually, what are the games tonight? Hang on, just
real quick, hang on, hang her NHL, NHL, I already know.
Uh in NBA, tonight's Tuesday, right, seventy six or Celtics.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
It's a good game.

Speaker 6 (49:03):
See.

Speaker 1 (49:04):
I like Mike, so I can't really root against the Celtics.
Jess not so much. But I like Mike.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
She's a Knicks fan.

Speaker 3 (49:10):
She not.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
I'm a Celtics fan. You were always no, I was not.
I grew up soft Againts, Jets, Islanders.

Speaker 5 (49:18):
He gave me crap because I grew up in New
York and I'm a Celtics fan.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
He told me I couldn't be.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Oh, okay, that's but no.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
I wrote it for the Pacers growing up because I
hated the Knicks, because I hated.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Their I like the Celtic sixer. They got got it
quits on them all the time, all right, So, uh, Blazers,
Blazer spurs, anyone but the Blazers. Anybody but the Blazers.
We gottaet. We might get into that a little later
on too. They got they got some issues. Man, Tom Condon,
their owner. Did I not tell you? Did not foreshaddle
that one might be the worst owner in sports?

Speaker 2 (49:45):
That's bad.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
That's bad, bad Rockets Lakers.

Speaker 4 (49:50):
Kevin Durant s and he has a sore knee and
uh what not playing?

Speaker 1 (49:53):
What a candy ass? You guys, everyone that wants to
worship him at the aultar of Kevin Durant here because
he play one bad year in Seattle and not his
bad year, just one bat like the last year. I'm
not buying in on that ever, just will not. I
heard softest in the day. I don't care about Paul
Van Carroll, even though he's a Seattle guy. I get
that you know what. I don't care about Vin Durant.
He played one year here and what are you doing

(50:15):
you man? Dudes in the NHL are getting their faces
broken open and they come out like two minutes.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
Later they get stitched on the bench. Yeah, he's load
managing in the playoffs. Her.

Speaker 1 (50:28):
I can't, honestly, I can't. I know that is not
That's not it. All right, Joshi enjoyed us. He's not
load managing. Make sure his phone works today. Okay, all right,
that's next.

Speaker 10 (50:43):
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(51:05):
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Speaker 1 (51:08):
Shean, Joe she and Joshian Newsletter Joe Sheia dot Com
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of moments. Hello, Joe Shean, how are you my friend?

Speaker 9 (51:22):
Good brother? What's going on here?

Speaker 4 (51:24):
Well?

Speaker 1 (51:24):
Baseball talk here in this town. We've got a lot
of Dan Wilson hate going on. We'll get to that
in a second. Let's let's look elsewhere as somebody else's
having issues because you happen to be in their neighborhood.
Oh wait, Jess, who are you a fan of?

Speaker 6 (51:38):
Definite? Joe?

Speaker 1 (51:39):
How do you lose eleven straight games in baseball? In
today's world? How do the New York Mets possibly lose
eleven straight games? What the hell's going on there?

Speaker 9 (51:48):
I guess I could paraphrase Sady Biaserros right, I miss
I miss I miss I miss uh Yeah, your best
player gets hurt and crippled the offense and then a
lot of other things go wrong. You go back to
It's is April fourth in San Francisco. Wan Soto left
the game. At the end of that game, the Mets
were four and four, and they're three and eleven. Since then,

(52:12):
they were scoring four and a half runs a game.
Now they're scoring two and two and a half. Without
one guy doesn't usually make that much difference in baseball,
but SODA's one of the five best hitters in the sport,
and you combine that with the fact that most of
the guys David Stearns picked up this winter, Marcus Semi
and Bobashd Jorge Pelonco haven't hit it all. Their rookie

(52:32):
Carson Benz hasn't hit. Some of the other hitters that
they brought along in recent years, Mark Bientos, Sprett Baty.
It's just a team that's not hitting. So that's really
the biggest thing. The pitching has basically been average. Code
I send, you've gotten knocked around, but everybody else has
been pretty decent. No one the claim's been great, but
they just can't score runs.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
We the great Philosopher Crawford Christopher Crawford pointed out to
us yesterday that we are now because we like to say,
you know, when is it not early anymore? In a
base ball season, A lot of times people use the
comparisons to a football season NFL season of seventeen games.
I think we're now two games into an NFL season
in general terms, Joe, when do you start? I mean, listen,

(53:11):
the Mets at seven and fifteen with eleven straight losses,
but sobto coming back probably on Wednesday helps them out
a little bit along those ways. Kansas City struggling mightily
at seven and sixteen. Of course, the Rockies we don't
care about because that's who they're going to be.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
The Giants.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
So at nine and thirteen with their college manager there
from Tennessee, when do you really start worrying? Like, when
is it time to start to panic, especially if your
team that had high expectations, maybe Toronto or Boston both
sitting at nine and thirteen, When do you start really
worrying about.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Things later than you think it should. I'm always going
to consider what was the talent level of team at preseason?
What do we think what is their actual talent level?
The Reverend the record just doesn't really matter all that much.
It's Patrick debuk Obert Baseball Perspectives who's pointed out that
in terms of predictive now, preseason expectations are more predicted

(54:05):
through about the end of July than the actual performance
of the team. That's how long it takes.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
Now.

Speaker 9 (54:11):
Realistically, we did this for a living. You can't really
wait that long. But I would say that you know,
April twentieth, twenty first, whatever today is, is way too early.
Twenty games is too early. The in season variants of teams,
I want to get them. It's phrase, it's right, the
in season variants of teams. Whatever you think it is,
it's wider than that. Good teams can go seven and thirteen,

(54:32):
Bad teams can go thirteen and seven, fourteen and six.
What have you. So, as far as you know, how
am I concerned about any of these teams? Not by
their record. I'm concerned about the fact that the Astros
have had like seven key injuries and sixty percent of
their their rotation is on the eye olt. The Blue
Jays basically have ninety percent of that problem. Kirk is out.

(54:55):
They have done short springers out as well, plus a
bunch of pictures that to me is real. Or take
the other side of it. If I didn't think, you know,
whatever I thought of the Tigers coming into the season,
the fact that they put Kevin McGonagall on the roster
and he's playing well, that is a slight upgrade for them.
So our players changing your are teams changing your perception
of them based on who they're playing or who they're

(55:17):
not playing. I think there's information to be gleaned in
the first three weeks. But if you get just so
caught up in the standings, you're missing the forest or
the trees.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
A team that is below five hundred but offensively impressive.
They've scored one hundred and seventeen runs. I know you
wrote about them with their game with the Yankees. Who
and what are the Los Angeles Angels?

Speaker 6 (55:36):
Jill?

Speaker 9 (55:38):
You know they've up created the rotation a little bit. Devers,
who's left the prospect for them for a while, ended
up in the bullpen last year. Fitchwell, they put him
back in the rotation. He's been affected. Took the loss
last night, but you look at him, you look at
yuse Kikuchi and Jack o'conowitz. Has been kind of a
surprise to me. But the big story there is how
was they sorry on? If we were giving out awards today,
which we shouldn't do, because twenty games in Jose Soriano

(56:01):
would be the American League sided ward, where you're talking
about a right hander, not an overpowering guy, but it
goes this heavy, heavy taskball that gets a lot of
round balls. That's really been a secret getting here right.
That looks like my body was going say a body
mass index, but that's not right, but he doesn't say
contray well, but you've got that. You've gone an offense
has been very good. The Mike Trout returned. You know,

(56:22):
I was down at the ballpark last Thursday. I got
to see him in a homer that still has the
land landed. Just absolutely a bomb. He had a great
series here in New York. He's going to be a
different player now. You know, the speed isn't quite there.
He's playing center, he probably shouldn't be playing center. But draws, walks,
hits for power. To me, when I looked at Trout
a couple of years ago, I said, okay, now you
can go into the Frank Robinson stage in his career

(56:43):
where I thought the longevity would be there. Just has
a different type of hitter. You know, maybe he'd beat
like a Nelson Cruz hid and that's where I think
he could get to. Now where he's going to draw, walks,
hit for power and you know, maybe the only hit
two forty to fifty, but the walks in the power
are going to make them valuable. So he stay on
the field. I think it can still be that guy.
And then you know Nola Shanwell veach Nido's you know,

(57:04):
an underrated player Joe Adell. Obviously we saw the three wins.
I don't have to tell you guys about Joe.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
Adell, right, nope, but really it's bad.

Speaker 9 (57:13):
He's not really a great defensive player. But the bat's
obviously come around the last couple of years. So you know,
I had them as the worst thing in the American
League coming in. They might be better than that. They're
not a contender. They're not a team that's going to
make the playoffs. The Bulten is just really really bad,
and that's gonna they really clip them a little bit.
The back of the rotations were questionable, the bottom of.

Speaker 1 (57:33):
The batting order.

Speaker 9 (57:34):
But you know, there's this is what I mean, like
a team that isn't very good can play over five
hundred for you know, a month. At times. It's just
we got to understand that it's not a team that
we projected to go six hundred. It isn't going to
just go three and two every couple of every five
games for an entire season. The variance of these teams is.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Why uh Joshi and Joshian news Letter. Big thanks Eric
Gordon for Bringius back Joshian every week there in this
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(58:15):
Joe Shian, who is on the ground floor of today's
modern baseball statistics back in the day. So I'm gonna
ask you this question refresh my memory. Does Joe Cian
ever look at run differential? And should we ever look
at run differential?

Speaker 4 (58:29):
Ah?

Speaker 9 (58:29):
Sure, I mean it's going to be actually more informative
than than record over a large sample over three weeks. Again,
it's something that can really screw you up. If you
win or lose a game sixteen to one and you
only plus twenty games, that's going to have a disproportion
of effects and run the cential. I am more inclined
to look at something like sand grass and base runs record,

(58:52):
which is saying, Okay, look at all the elements that
went into your performance. How good do you look? How
good are you? You mentioned baseball perspectives. Cli Avinport was
one of the founding members of Baseball Respectors. So while
with Gary Huckabee and he has a site like played
edmport dot com where he calculates third order record, it's
the same thing. It's how what are the things that
went into your record? How strong was your schedule? How

(59:14):
good have you been at converting doubles, triples, homers into runs?
And that acceptive. So third order record at playdeedinport dot
com it is probably the first place I'm going to
look to see whether teams are performing two expectations as well.
Put this our teams. Is a team's record deceptive or
an accurate representation of how well it's played.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
It's a good point. I'm coming from the world of hockey.

Speaker 10 (59:39):
We do that.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
Save percentage for goalies used to be a really big thing,
and it's still something that a lot of people use.
You look at it's it's like batting average in the
sense and like you show the goalie stats at the
start of a broadcast and it's like save percentage nine
oh five, whatever it might be. And yet that doesn't
always because of the sample size. It doesn't always. You
could you could have a game where you face ten
shots and made ten you're a thousand, You're perfect right,

(01:00:02):
like you're along the way. You can also have a
game where you give up like four power play goals
but you make eight great saves. It doesn't always reflect
what you do. Andrews, you want to chime in, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:11):
I just looked at the website that Joe is mentioning there.
He has the Mariners as the best record in the
American League and only only record better than that as
the Dodgers.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
So wow, So Joe explain that because I'm looking at
a team that's ten and fourteen, help me out.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
I don't have to place the site in front of me,
but I know that the Mariners have actually outscored their
opponents this year, which is any part of that equation,
it's but it's also you know, they're not converting, they're
not getting as many runs out of their run elements.
They're maybe not hitting as well as runners of scoring position.
So you know, you have situations where you have a
really good game at the plate, but you only get
two runs at it. And then the other thing might

(01:00:46):
be the schedule, So that's probably also a factor in there.
But I will say that, you know, I trust obviously
we're not going to put teams in the playoffs basically
the their order record. But if I'm trying to figure
out who's good, it is not, that's really the first
I'm going to right now show me the third order
record as opposed to say their actual record, because I
think that you know, whether it's a football mindset or

(01:01:09):
just an athlete mindset. I there's a few ways to
look at this in but we don't really accept very
well that a record isn't always be an indication of
how good you are. Right, talk about record in one
run games, right, the Reds have started out the year
six and oh one run games. They've also won the
three and zero ex rating games like that has an
impact on your record that maybe isn't entirely reflective of

(01:01:32):
how good you are as a team, because we have
the good teams don't play a streating games. Good he
just beat you six to one. That's kind of the
saber metric argument is that your one run record is
influenced a little bit by fortune and balances, whereas your
record is blowouts is a great indication of how good
a team you actually are, So third or a record
kind of collects all of that information. And spits it

(01:01:53):
out in the form of well a record.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
It's interesting you bring that up because reds I was jumping.
They kind of their record jumps out EIF in and eight.
They lead the Central Division, yet they're minus three in
run differential. The A's lead the Al West twelve and eleven.
They're the only team in the West it's above five hundred.
Their run differential is minus seventeen. Like, yeah, so again

(01:02:16):
small sample size, Like you said, we're twenty three, twenty
four games in, not not quite even a full calendar month,
yet getting close, But yeah, those those numbers can skew
a little bit along the way. So it is an
interesting way to look at anders. You were looking up
something to what he got.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I got marriage are twenty fifth and average with
running his runners in scoring.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Position they are, which is what Joe just meant. I
just did.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
On base percentage, they're a little bit higher seventeenth for
an OPS that is twenty third, so they're in the
bottom third of the league. And runners in scoring positions stats.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Yeah, which is what you said, Joe, kind of a
better indication they're just not getting guys in, right, That's
that's a that's probably been a problem for them.

Speaker 9 (01:02:51):
So far, and that doesn't always balance out. It's seen
twenty of seasons where you know, a team goes that's
supporters of scoring position or a team doesn't. And frankly,
that's one of the things that can make you get
into the playoffs or this is the playoffs. That doesn't
always even out for a full season. We do know
that it's not a skill over and above hitting, and
this is the fight about kluts that we've been having
for since I was in very great it feels like,

(01:03:13):
but you know, it's incredibly important to perform in those
high leverage spots, but at the same time, there's no
necessary skill in performing in a high leverage spots. So
it's kind of this this contradiction that this kind of
tension that we've have between traditional fandom and stadhead. What's
that will tell you? But you know, I'll tell you myself,
and even if there's no skill in it, there's a

(01:03:34):
sure a heck of a lot of value.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Joshi and Jonay's Joshian Newsletter. You haven't written about it,
I don't think yet, But have you seen the controversy
coming out with the Otawi rule. Craig council, the manager
of the Cubs complaining about that.

Speaker 9 (01:03:47):
Yeah, I mean, he's all over it. Since you know,
this is a rule that they put in for the
twenty twenty three season, so it's good to see Craig
getting on it here in the middle of twenty forty six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Explain to people what it is and why people were upset.

Speaker 9 (01:04:00):
When the designated hit a rule first came into place
in nineteen seventy three. The rule was that you could
the pitcher could hit or your DH could hit, but
they could not actually u occupy the same playoffs. In
other words, if you took her for some reason, your
DH went into the field, which you see, you know
every now and then the game, your pitcher then went

(01:04:21):
into the lineup and we're tied together. You couldn't have her,
you couldn't have the DH. They go into the field,
and then your picture would go along. So basically they
created this rule for Shoho Tani after the twenty twenty
two season. Remember he played in the American League and
he never played the field with the Angel so this
really didn't come up very often. But to sign with

(01:04:42):
the Dodgers in the National League, we're going to have
the full DH rule. They basically changed the rule to
say that any picture really could start the game as
pitchers slash DH, and if he left the game as
a pitcher, he was allowed to stay in the game.
Parallel to that be clarified or created. Basically, this idea

(01:05:02):
of a two way player on a roster. So right
now you have a massive of thirteen pitchers on a roster,
but because the Dodgers can classify Otani as a hitter,
they effectively get a fourteenth pitcher on their roster. Now
everybody can do this, but of course there's one show
show Heo Tim You know, guys like Michae Lorenzen, you

(01:05:25):
know haven't really pitched or hit well enough. I don't
think Lorenza's actually do not have played about four years.
But the idea was that teams could have two way players.
But there's really only one Otani, So this effectively becomes
just a rule for Otonas. So, yes, the Dodgers basically
get to carry an extra reliever because Otani doesn't actually
count as a pitcher for them or is it an advantage? Yes,

(01:05:48):
I personally wish they hadn't changed the rules. I didn't
love making a rule for effectively one guy. I think
that's the road to help. But I also think this
has been the rule for three and a half years now,
and a pret council wanted to complain about it. Epril
twenty twenty three was a time to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Well said, before I let you go, just to get
your insight real fast. Mariners finished up with the A's
tonight and tomorrow. Then they had to Saint Louis this weekend,
a team that I thought kind of was fire sailing,
but they've had a strong start to the season or
four above five hundred. They're run defferential. Isn't good though,
but who and one of the Saint Louis Cardinals at
Mariners fans will see this weekend.

Speaker 9 (01:06:22):
We may get fire sale and they're not looking to
really contend this week. And they're another team that probably
a bit of a mirage early on, a bit like
the Angels. Jordan Walker, who has been a young hitter,
came up as a prospect three years ago, hit well,
really didn't hit the last two years a bit of
a disappointment. Has had a great start to the season
eight homers, finding a big guy and really good power.

(01:06:43):
The basketball hasn't always been there. The ground ball rate
has been really what has eaten him up. He's really
turns on this year, great story after a great start.
They've got up the middle. They're very strong defensively. You've
got Mason Win a shortstop, Victor Stotton center, JJ Weatherholt
of the National League version of Kevin McGonagall, but he's
not hitting as well. He's moved from short over the

(01:07:04):
second because of Nason Winn. That is a strong defense.
Up the middle, they don't really get well. They are
kind of figuring it out on the corners now. Nolan Gorman,
who's been around forever, hasn't really gotten off to a
good start. Large Lucar hasn't even played yet. He's been
there left fielder. They've got Evon Horrera who came up
as a catcher mostly DH last year and now they're
trying to integrate him back into catching catch about once

(01:07:26):
a week right now. There's a lot of talent there
and one of the things they're trying to do this
year is figure out who are we going forward with
and who do we have to trade time. Bloom took
over there last year, basically last winter, and he's trying
to turn over the pitching development. They traded for a
lot of live arms, Taylor Clark from the Red Sox
being the top one. They drafted a kid last year

(01:07:47):
named Liam Doyle in the first round. He's going to
eventually get to the major leagues. It's a product, it's
a process. I think they're a fun team to watch
if they will enjoy watching this weekend, but they're not
as good as their record. They will end up a
seller at the deadline. But you're looking at a team
that probably could be a wildcard contenter as early as
next year.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
Right, David, play your home for the crack of the
night three point three KJR FM man I was, I
think last night it really hit home what a bummer
it is that our team are, that we have an
NHL team and it's not in the playoffs. Games last

(01:11:24):
night were so good. Yeah. Games to night promised to
be really good as well. Canadians have an early one
nothing lead in the series against Tampa. That'd be a
bit of an upset game two tonight. Sabers incredible comeback
over the Bruins. They won nothing. That's a game tonight.
Golden Knight's doing everybody a favor by beating Utah. I
know people here don't like the Golden Knights.

Speaker 4 (01:11:45):
Interesting, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
I cannot stand the narrative that's erroneous about the Mammoth
in their second year. They've been building this team for
twenty years. They tanked it for four Shut up, it's not.
They're the Thunder, the mammoth of the Thunder. If you
want to, if you want a team to root against,
the Utah Mammoth are the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Wow, that'll put a stamp on it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:08):
And I love Utah, man, I love my time there.

Speaker 4 (01:12:11):
You think it's a good hockey market.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
I think it's a great hockey market. I love my
time there. Child was born there, many friends still there.
I could go back. That's one of the team is
fun to watch too. That's a team that's a place
I could go back, honestly and live. Even though I'm
not of the faith and they don't like me because
of that, I know, seriously, I I but this. They're
the Oklahoma City Thunder. They've benefited from another team tanking

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for a couple of years, good young players, good young
draft picks. And the thing is with you with Mammot,
they'll be able to keep those guys around. This is
gonna be Oklahoma City and Kevin Durant and James Harden
and Obaka and everybody else gonna leave. So yeah, I
just a great combat field. Think about that when you're
when you're rooting against the Golden Knights. We don't like

(01:12:56):
the Golden Knights. They got two t birds on it though,
Shy and Kegan, so we're like, we're okay, don't love
their goalie, No, Carter Hart's not a great human being.
No Kings and Avalanche and Night also sold four games tonight.
I mentioned this big game day for us. Tomorrow, we'll
be out at the Cracking Community ice Flex. We will
be there the Jason Bottril News end of the Year

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news conference, and he's gonna be with Todd light WICKI.

Speaker 4 (01:13:23):
What does that mean to you?

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I don't know. They're insistent on the two of them
doing it together. Interesting, so we'll carry that for you
Live at ten and walso have those guys on the
show tomorrow together I think together. So that's fine. But yeah,
I decided, oh man, I'm having I feel bummed. We
got this team's got to get back to the playoffs. Yeah,
this isn't it. They have to get back to the

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playoffs from a business standpoint, or just give us playoff
hockey again.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
See it's weird because for so much sorry Jess, but
for so much of the year I was like, see
I don't want to just get in, you know what
I mean? But now, looking at the matchups, I would
love to just get in, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:14:02):
The thing is is stuff can happen in the playoffs,
like their upsets can happen.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Well, and we got such exciting series when they were in.
They were so fun. Seven games.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Look at Montreal. Montreal might upset Tampa.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
That's a good young team.

Speaker 4 (01:14:18):
But I don't want to just do it for one year,
and I want to have a window, you know what
I mean, a contention window.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Okay, Jerry to Poto, Okay, it's sustainable. Yeah, somebody get
me a nail gun to put through my eyeball.

Speaker 2 (01:14:32):
Right now, Gosh, I can go to the engineering room
if you really want.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
They don't have anything like that there. If they did,
this microphone would be fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
But there are a lot of disorganized screwdrivers.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
This just keeps going limp on me four or five one?
What do you do for a limp microphone?

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
Huh?

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
When it goes a limp? What do you do? Four
or five to one?

Speaker 3 (01:14:52):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
They can put it in some Apple sauce with the
TV up?

Speaker 1 (01:14:58):
And I'm not going to bite. I'm not biting. I'm
not doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it.
You put it right on the TV and that fair
way is as big as La at Bay and I'm
not doing it. We'll watch check in we believe with
John lonn next kind of a big deal. Do national

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radio guy, see if he's there NFL Draft week, what's
going on Trent Williams sign, he's probably you know what,
if he's not there's probably because he's throwing a big
old party. Because Trent Williams resigned with the forty nine
ers trip. We'll talk to him coming.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Up next.

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Speaker 5 (01:15:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Wish I didn't have that much information in front of me,
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shouldn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
I really shouldn't have said an me.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
You're right anyway, that's all right, No, no, it's all good.
Marriag's the first game in the series against the Athletics.
Andrews blames it on Dan Wilson. I do, so does
Chris Crawford. So does Nathan Bishop. Really, they're ten or
fourteen on the season game tonight the Rock. Luis Castillo's
on the mound and some dude named Jacob Lopez. Mike

(01:16:33):
Vrabel says he's had quote difficult conversations with people that
I care about. Over Diana Russini photos, I'm sure you have.
Mike Tomlin joins NBC is NFL studio analysts for Sunday
Night Football. It's a nice upgrade over Tony Dungee. That's
actually a great upgrade to Tony Dungee. Billy Donovan down
steps down as the Bulls head coach after six seasons
as well. Wan Soto should be back on Wednesday with

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the Mets. They've lost how many inter row Jess, I
love it, thank you checking in? Don't check check that out?

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Oh, Bobby Mack fired up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Yeah, I would imagine what we got?

Speaker 4 (01:17:08):
What we got? He's wait, what I know? Hit the open,
Mike any hit the open.

Speaker 10 (01:17:19):
Welcome to Ian's Weekly visit with John Lund Unleashed. He's
a Bay Area media icon who's known Ian for over
twenty five years. But don't let their age change your
opinion of them. John takes you through the Bay Area,
en the NFC West and dupes it out with the
Inn over, the.

Speaker 6 (01:17:36):
Niners and the Hawks.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
So let's unleash it now with John Lund.

Speaker 6 (01:17:40):
Here's Ian.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Oh what's going on in this world? When you, sir,
when you are on time again?

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
You know what I think it is?

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
It's this new world you're living in. You got the
sunshine of Arizona, right, So you're just kind of chilling.
What's going on? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
So you know I was. I was walking around and
I knew you guys were gonna call at two o'clock.
And I thought, you know, I don't want to be
known as mister reliable. You know, I'm not cal ripkin here. Uh,
And I'm like, how should I pick up? And so
I'm staring at the I'm staring at the two oho
six number, and I'm thinking to myself, like do I
pick up?

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Do I not? Do I make them a little nervous.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Like because because now if if if I keep being
reliable like this, then the bit's over and I don't
want the bit to be over.

Speaker 1 (01:18:27):
But then the other thing is too, is I'm not
really reliable.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
I'm just on like a three week you know, heater,
which I've been on like three week venders before, but
you know, I don't know that I've been this reliable.
So I did pick up because I felt guilty about it.
But I was like, I can't be on time again,
Like there's gotta be they got to be a little
bit nervous. But I picked up.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
What's the longest bender you've been on. Mine's fifty years.
I'm still in the midst of it. Yeah, you got
to get some counseling, man, I know, to get some counseling.
I'm listening. I got lots of going on, buddy, don't
worry about it. I'm good. I'm all good.

Speaker 3 (01:19:02):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:19:03):
It's all the golfing.

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Like the more you golf and then you're out golfing
and you gotta drink. Like there's certain situations where.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
I squeeze eighteen holes out with I squeeze eighteen holes
out on Saturday. Didn't have one, didn't have one beer?
Not one?

Speaker 7 (01:19:16):
Why?

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Why? Who would do that? Well? As a guest at
a country club. So you know it wasn't like there
was a beverage cart running around or you know that
wasn't probably rep Now I might have had a country
club doesn't have around run afterwards. Soft it's softiest country club.
What do you expect? I don't know. I mean, come on,
it's good play, golf played well. We know, first thing

(01:19:38):
I did had a boddies off of from Georgetown right
after the grounds over, so it's all good. Yeah, yeah,
And I might have had there might have been a
little nicotine or something involved. I don't know, it could
have been that going on.

Speaker 3 (01:19:48):
Like I mean, more than anything else is that you
don't carry a flask like I mean, I have a
I have a gigantic flask in my golf bag. There's
no at no point I need to relax a little bit.
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:59):
We have a we have we have the Wednesday Night
Birdie bottle in there. It's a mix of Makers. It's
a mix of Makers Mark because it's cheap, and butterscotch
and butterscotch uh schnops. You ever had that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Mixtastic and I'll drink about any No, it's fantastic, trust me.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
Whiskey and butterscotch.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
Yeah, have you had that?

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
Try it?

Speaker 1 (01:20:21):
Sorry, it's a great, it's a great, it's a great.
It's in the bag. It's in my it's in my flask,
in my bag. It's if on the rare occasion that
a birdie happens with the group I'm in. And although
it did happen with last week, we didn't hit it
because it was my buddy Darren's good but uh like
our normal group. Yeah, no, it's it's it's there. It's
ready to rock and round. Yeah. I went to Total
Wine like last week, a rock and roll all year. Yeah,

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I'll put that in.

Speaker 3 (01:20:43):
I'll put that in the bag.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
I usually have straight whiskey in there. But I get it.
Some people need a little bit, you know, you need
to back off a little bit. Well, if you're playing
with somebody good, you might have more than one, so
you might want to kind of tone it down a
little bit, right, Yeah, you know, I don't play like
one of the guys I play with. You're gonna find
this weird are better than me, uh like everybody. So
actually that's not the case. There's a couple of guys

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on better than your bag. That's why they're better than Yeah,
you know what, do I beat the kid? I beat
the kid on Saturday. That's all that matter. Oh that's
not exact, that is all that matters. Well, it's it's
we're fifty to fifty right now, like he'll The problem
is he hits it so far that he just kind
of looks, you know, nice was out of three woods,
And I'm like, no, dude, it was a driver. You
said it was a driver, and it's gonna be over

(01:21:25):
your head in a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:21:26):
But you know, but o.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
My favorite line to him is it's like, that's a
great shot there, monkey uh, but that bogie kind of
sucks after you hit it that far. Huh, Like or
a double yeah? No short game, yeah, power baby, no
short game. Off it's a line hands. It's like, dude, yeah, anyway,
but all right, John Lone joins us. How is Arizona?

Speaker 3 (01:21:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
It's good.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
You know, I'm still kind of doing back and forth.
I'm doing I'm doing both because I got it. I
still got a gig going with the forty nine ers,
but decided to go down to the Sunshine too, So
I got it. I got a bunch of different stuff
going on. I got an expensive lifestyle. So I'm gonna
you know, I'm gonna do a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
I can do a lot of things. Speaking to your
friends the forty nine ers, did you throw a party
because Trent Williams resigned? What's going on? That's a lot
of money.

Speaker 4 (01:22:10):
How old is he?

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Like, forty five, forty six? What the hew old is
that guy?

Speaker 3 (01:22:14):
It's pretty amazing though that he can go this long.
I mean we're seeing this in lots of different sports, obviously,
what Lebron James is doing. Whether you like hi or not,
He's forty one years old doing this, and Curry and
Rady and all these different things. And you know, the
thing with Turn Williams is is that you know he
owns a gym in Oklahoma. He is absolutely all about
working out, eating the right things.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
You can see him. I mean, he's a great guy too.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
I know you'd hate him because he's a you're a
Seahawk fan, but I mean, I don't think he owns
a shirt with sleeves.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
I get him crab all.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
The time, Like, dude, you do you just have to
have those pythons just sitting out all the time, suns out,
guns out, reins out, guns out, cloudy out guns out
like he's just but he's you know, he's in in
tremendous shape and there's no doubt in my mind that
maybe he's not the best left tackle in the league anymore,
but he's certainly still in the top five.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
And so it's a two year contract.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
I think by the end of that because everybody keeps
saying they got to get a town, they got to
get Attackle, they got to get Attackle. Well, I think
they have a two year window and they'll probably you know,
they're sitting at twenty seven. If they like somebody there,
they're gonna they're gonna go that route. But the one
thing is is just and you and I have had
this conversation and I love talking draft, so let's talk
draft until our head's ball off here. But they've had
a great offseason. I mean, they've really really had a

(01:23:18):
great offseason. I'm I don't think that they've I'm not
gonna say that they've passed the Seahawks because they didn't
even come close last year, but in adding the receivers
that they did, in getting Trent Williams back, and you know,
shoring up the defense, and then just in general, getting healthy.
I think this year it's gonna be a three team
or I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna
be obviously the Seahawks, the Rams, and now I think
you can put the forty nine ers in.

Speaker 1 (01:23:38):
That they've they've done a lot of great things this offseason. Well,
I think you know, all joking aside, I think you'd
probably agree with me here that if if the three
teams at the top of the NFC West were playing
in the other two division, like we've spread them out
to the rest of the NFC, those would be those
will probably be your three division champs by a mile, right, Like,
I mean, they're the three best teams in THENFC. I mean,

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that's that's the problem, that this arms race. That and
that's why the draft's gonna be fun because my Seattle
right now has four picks. But John Shawder if you
saw he came out yesterday and said, yeah, I don't
think it's any it's no, it's no secret. We want
to do we want to move down right and and
and good for him. He's basically saying we're open for business.
But like, it's an arms race between these three teams

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with the Rams did in the offseason with the cornerback
position with McDuffie and Watson and and what the forty
nine ers are doing. Yeah, it's an arms race because
you're not even looking around the rest of the league.
You're just looking at your neighbors in the same division, John,
and it's a it's gonna be a hell of a battle.

Speaker 4 (01:24:35):
Again.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
The bad thing is they're gonna beat each other up, right,
That's the problem. And the way the way the NFL
playoffs work, you're gonna have a division winner. You should
have two wild card teams that are gonna have to
go on the road, and they're probably gonna be better
teams than the others.

Speaker 3 (01:24:51):
Yeah, but I mean, I look at the rest of
the divisions that you got.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
You just talked about it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
I think Chicago's going to take a step back. They
you know that the year after you win a bunch
of close games in the cardiac fashion that they did.
And I'm not saying they're not good. They are, but
I don't trust Kayleb Williams the Packers. I'm not sure
we're there. I think the Lions will go back to
their perch up high. What will Kyler Murray do in
Minnesota Sea. Why don't division there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
In the East. I think the Giants going to make
a big jump. I think they absolutely robbed Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
I don't know why you're giving up the tenth overall
pick for a guy who's twenty nine and he weighed
in at three hundred and ninety four downs. God when
he when he went to the bank, like, what are
you doing? This guy's going to be in the league
a couple of years. That's why the Bengals are the Bengals.
But Harbaugh goes to the Giants. They have picks five
and ten. They think they have a quarterback set. You know,

(01:25:37):
they've got some good defensive talent. I think the Giants
are going to make a big jump even to win
that division. But the reason I say all that is
because none of those teams are still better than the
top three teams in the NFC West.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
So it should be in some order.

Speaker 3 (01:25:50):
And I would imagine, much to the chagrin of Seahawks fans,
that the Rams will probably be the number one power
ranked team with no power rankings. Stupid and they here's
the they don't matter. This is at college. So let
the Rams be power ranked one all season long.

Speaker 1 (01:26:03):
Who cares. Let them take the pressure.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
And you know it's weird, but the Super Bowl champs
are almost flying under the radar right where like we've
talked about, I mean this game that the Niners and
Rams are gonna play, and that thing's gonna take. You
know that everybody's gonna be talking about that. It almost
seems like the Seahawks already have the disrespect and everybody's
handing the handing the baton over.

Speaker 1 (01:26:22):
To the Rams. You know we should do in the fall,
let's do a joint run for ness Ian and John
Power rankings and just sell it off. Is like the
most important tell people that we tell people. We do
this massive deep dive into the analytics and it's just
this that, and then just screw it up where it's
like like all of a sudden, who would be I'm
gonna throw a team out there, The Cardinals are number one?

(01:26:46):
Uh like, just make it all I could, and just
see how many people buy it. And this say these
guys are idiots.

Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
Dolphins.

Speaker 1 (01:26:52):
Dolphins are a top five team in our Power rankings.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
You and I'd learned a long time ago you don't
have to be right, No, you have to say it
with a lot of authority and say it loud.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
That's pretty much what media is nowadays.

Speaker 3 (01:27:05):
It's not who's right, wrong or indifferent, it's who's the loudest,
most obnoxious, and you can say it with the most authority.
And actually that's not just sports, that's our country.

Speaker 1 (01:27:13):
But I digress, But.

Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
I mean, that's that's just what we do, right And
then people just go sounds like, you know, is what
he's talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
I think I believe him. Oh my god. Well, here's
what's funny about that. There's two things. One that one
of those guys will be in the studio here in
about a half hour. Two two we worked with a
guy like that now has a very successful national show
on FS one. His name might sound a lot like
Colin Cowhard. Anyway, we move on. Let's uh, let's let's
let's go to So the forty nine ers. This is

(01:27:42):
an interesting thing we've been talking so much here in Seattle,
John about the four picks. Seattle has one you know,
first first round, a second, a third, and then a
sixth rounder. So one on day three, two on day two,
and just the one on first that they want to
get rid of. The thirty second over all the last
pick that does come, and Schneider points out, and you
know this, that fifth year option. If there's a guy

(01:28:03):
you really love, you'll take that, even though it's thirty
two and all that. So they think they can they
can have some movement there. The forty nine ers is
almost as strange a draft in terms of how it's
set up for folks who don't know. You guys have
a first rounder, a second rounder, and then if I'm
reading this right, one, two, three, four fourth round picks
and that's it, six total picks, four in the fourth round,

(01:28:26):
one in a two Like that's an oddity as well.
They've got to be looking at John Lynch's got to
be looking to move some of those fourth round picks. Yeah,
he'll do that.

Speaker 3 (01:28:34):
And the thing is they're like the Seahawks. Though they've
had a lot of obviously a success in the middle rounds,
not as much in the first round. It's a lot
like what the Seahawks do, their scouts and their department
and all that kind of stuff. They're really good at
finding the mid round gym. So they like having those,
but you're right, they'd like to have a little more
spread out. One of the reasons they have all that
is over the last number of years, and this is
what the Seahawks are have already faced and they're going

(01:28:55):
to start facing. When you're successful, there goes your OC,
there goes your DC, there goes your back coach. That
goes And what happens is when these are minority candidates
that get hired, which is what's happened with the forty
nine ers, are front office guys who are minority candidates
and they get hired, then you get these compensation picks.
And that's what the forty nine ers have been stacking
up on in the last.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
Number of years.

Speaker 3 (01:29:14):
Because of their success, they've lost a ton of coaches.
I mean they lost solid again to Tennessee this year.
But I mean you've got to become skillful in replacing
those guys. And that's where Seattle is and you and
I have had this conversation. I mean, their new offensive
coordinator comes from the forty nine ers. You've got to
be able to replace those guys and you start having success.
But in the forty nine ers case, they've gotten those
picks through minority candidates who got hired other places. Three

(01:29:37):
of those three of the picks, by the way, Yeah,
because the forty nine ers would have had they would
have had just the three picks, A one to two
and a four. Three of those picks all the fourth
round thirty three, thirty eight, thirty nine, those are obviously
after the thirty two are taken, are all compensatory picks
for San Francis.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
So what are they looking for? Like Ed Rusher still
kind of near the top of the list.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
Well, you and I have had this conversation whether the
reason why the Rams and the Seahawks have passed up
the forty nine ers is in the trenches and this
was their whole mo and they were just they constantly
would draft there and then they just stopped. And then
that's what why they have struggled so much. So well,
they may or may not go offensive line or offensive
tackle for Truent Williams in a couple years. They really
got to fortify the defensive line.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
You've got to love here in this. I mean, look, Nick.

Speaker 3 (01:30:20):
Bosa's getting to the point where he's really really good.
But he was drafted in nineteen, so you're looking at
his you know, seventh eighth year, he's had two ACL injuries. Now,
Michel Williams their first round pick last year, he blew
out his knee and he was he's kind of a
tweener anyway. Really isn't an outside guy, really is an
inside guy. They thought they were getting a Michael Bennett type,
but he hasn't been that. So I think they've got
to go back to the well because look, they had

(01:30:41):
twenty two sacks something like that. They were one of
the worst teams. Now, look they lost Bosa, but their
defensive line doesn't scare anybody.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
Their edges don't scare.

Speaker 3 (01:30:49):
Anybody, so they I think they need to go back
into the defensive line. Now that Trent Williams signed for
a couple of years, they can go offensive line, but
they really don't have to now because he's going to
hang around. They've got to fortify the lines. And that's
the bottom line to this team, because the Rams and
the Seahawks have passed him up. And that's what it
is is these three teams punch each other in the face.
I mean, it's all great. You can talk about the
quarterbacks and the skilled position guys in JSN versus Pookuinaku

(01:31:11):
and blah blah blah. But the reason why that all
happens is because the trenches are the engine that runs
both of these teams in Seattle, and with the Rams
and the fort Niners have fallen behind.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Yeah, I think it's when you also start losing, like
you said, those draft picks, but then you get the
ones back because your coaches leave. Part of the thing
is your coaches leave and you're still trying to find
your identity right and exactly you are right. I mean
with Kyle Shanahan, we kind of know who and what
he is, but the solid departure we talked about him
a lot last year. That's a pretty massive loss, isn't

(01:31:43):
it gigantic?

Speaker 3 (01:31:44):
It's gigantic because the thing is, even though you bring
in somebody is established as as what they've done in
Rahee Morris. The last time they did this was Steve
Wilkes a few years ago. He was an established defensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 (01:31:55):
And kind of had his thing that he did.

Speaker 3 (01:31:57):
But Kyle is I know you're going to be shocked
by this, but he's a lot like Mike McDonald in
this way.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
He wants things done his way.

Speaker 3 (01:32:03):
And so the problem is is when you get a
guy that's kind of set this is the defense I run,
it doesn't always work.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
So even though the.

Speaker 3 (01:32:10):
Name is really good, I'm not sure that this is
a great fit. Because Kyle, he and Robert Soli were
on the same page and they knew what they were
gonna do, and that was massive last year, and he
got every inch, every drop out of that defense because
you know, all those injuries that happened.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
It was amazing they could hang around.

Speaker 3 (01:32:26):
As long as they did, But a lot of it
was because Kyle and Robert Sali were on the same page.
Rahim Morris is a great defensive coordinator, but I don't
know that he's a great fit for the forty nine ers.
So I think they're gonna have some growing pains early
in the year trying to establish even though they're going
to have health.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
A lot more health. Guys like Bosa and.

Speaker 3 (01:32:42):
Warner and such are back. But the last time they
did this, it didn't work out so well. To get
the big name defensive coordinator and plug it in there
with Kyle, because Kyle wants with Kyle wants, and I
don't care how long you've been doing this, if you're
not on the same page with him, it causes problems.
They had Steve Wolkes in the booth Any had them
on the sidelines. It was a pure mess, and that
same thing could happen even though where Morris is very
well respected in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:33:04):
Just looking at draft history, how would you how would you?
I hate the great system, but how if someone says
how is how is?

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:33:13):
How has John Lynch been in drafts? And I'm looking
through here, it's an amazing thing because as good as
that roster is, as good as they are, way way
bye bye, even average standards, He's had a lot of
misses and yet look where they are, like there's still
a league football team. I mean, Jake Moody was the
second pick in twenty twenty three. You know I got

(01:33:34):
did I have I ever told you that story? Oh?
This is a this is an amazing story.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
So we would be broadcasting right next to there. They
were really cool to us. They would never trust you
to do this, but me, of course it's very different. Yeah,
but we broadcast right next to the literally right next
to their.

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
To their draft room.

Speaker 9 (01:33:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:33:49):
You had to be like padded down. It was like
going to an.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Airport, especially with me, and they would put us in
this room with steaks and big screen TVs. Really cool
to us, and they drafted Jake Moody in the fourth round,
and I was screaming the whole day because Papa has
the inside round play by.

Speaker 1 (01:34:03):
Place he's a third round pick, round pick righte night's round.

Speaker 3 (01:34:08):
He was a third round pick. And they didn't have
a first or a second I think that year something
like that because of Trey Lance, because of the big
bomb of Trey Lance, they ain't have picks. So we're
in this room and Papa's trying to tell me. They're
play by play guy Greg. Papa trying to tell me
the whole time, dude, they're taking a kicker.

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
Just deal with it.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
Like you don't take kickers in the draft. You can
get him anywhere, like Brandon Aubery who just got big
stinking contract extension. You don't take kickers never, never, never.
And he's telling me all day, dude, they're taking a kicker,
just watch it. And I they announced his name, Kicker Michigan,
and right on the air, I blurt out, when Goodell's
not even done, I go no, oh, So they ran

(01:34:45):
that forever and and I'm going off right, and then
Kyle Shanahan walks in and I didn't know this. They
had our broadcast on. I don't know why, but they
had our broadcast on and Kyle heard me and he
walked in and he goes, dude, I wanted a running back,
like right away, ups open the door like flash, it
rips it open, it goes, I wanted a running back.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
They didn't even want that guy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:05):
Lynch and the rest of the guys thought he was great,
and of course you know he didn't turn out to
be really good. But but to your point of drafting,
they've been a little bit like Schnyder in that they
they do great like round two through seven, right, but
round one they've just had problems in a moody we
just talked about. But I mean, Kittle's a fifth rounder,
Warner's a third round or I mean, go on down
the line. Outside of Nick Bosa, they and that's a

(01:35:28):
no brainer because remember Arizona took Kyler first and then
they took Bosa second.

Speaker 1 (01:35:32):
It was a no brainer. They just have they've really
struggled in the second.

Speaker 3 (01:35:36):
Round or in the first round, and none better than
than Trey Lance. I mean, you gave up two technically
three first rounders, you got one back, but brock Perty
saved them. I'll be Honestly, if brock Party doesn't do
what he's done as mister irrelevant a couple of years ago,
I'm not sure that John Lynch is still around. Kyle
Shannan is, but I don't know that John Lynch is
because that's a massive.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Bomb on the worst ever. Yeah, Trey Lance, third overall
pick in the first round of twenty The funny thing
is the twenty twenty one draft. That's the one the
Seahawks punted on. They just took, They just took three
players that year. They just said, you know, we don't know.
It's twenty twenty. Nobody's having team Dass, Ridge, Stone, Forsyth,
Trey Brown.

Speaker 6 (01:36:14):
I think it was right.

Speaker 4 (01:36:15):
Yeah, picked before Humphrey.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
What was that Anderson D.

Speaker 4 (01:36:18):
S Bridge one pick before Creed Humphrey.

Speaker 1 (01:36:21):
Yeah, that would have been nice. Yeah, that would have
been nice. That's brutal. Well, I mean, the best fun
game to play too. If you're bored at night.

Speaker 3 (01:36:27):
Just go through drafts and go, oh, we could have
that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:36:29):
Well, we could have that. I mean the best pick,
the best pick Lynch has made is very It's very
Richard Sherman like twenty twenty one. That same twenty twenty one.
He took Leonard the cornerback out of Oregon in the
fifth round, one hundred and seventy second the.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
Corner in the third round, Ambry Thomas out of Michigan.
Like they just thought, like they they've taken running back
after running back. I think he and Lynch are taken
three running backs in the third round. They've all been bombed.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Just Joe Williams from Utah.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
I mean, just a graveyard, just terrible, terrible running backs
that just you know, so there certain you know, every
front office has this, they have blind spots.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
It's a certain position, it's a certain.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
You know what I mean at just the first round,
I mean like Schneider before JSN, and I'm doing this
off top of my head, but I mean they they
weren't good with receivers, but then you know JSN is
a totally different Sorry, that was awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
That was a great pick.

Speaker 3 (01:37:17):
But you know, it's just certain team. Like every time
Shannan takes a running back, ever just goes, oh, I
know he's gonna stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
He's gonna suck.

Speaker 3 (01:37:26):
They've taken three, yeah, and they've all been off the
roster in like two years.

Speaker 1 (01:37:31):
Like you can go back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:32):
I mean, it's just it's it is an So that's
their blind spot.

Speaker 1 (01:37:35):
They cannot pick running backs. They just can't.

Speaker 3 (01:37:37):
That's why they traded for McCaffrey because like, we suck
at running backs. Let's take five, you know, a second,
a third, two fours and just go get McCaffrey, Like
we cannot draft running back the the Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:37:47):
I don't want to.

Speaker 6 (01:37:48):
I hate.

Speaker 1 (01:37:49):
I don't want to pile on this guy because you
won a Super Bowl and I think Pete Pete is
one of the best things ever having to sale sports.
I think that you can see the difference in the
drafts with Pete and without Pete as the guy who
had the ultimate say over Schneider, because since Pete's left,
the three drafts have been phenomenal, Like they've been absolutely
and with Pete you have to give him if you're

(01:38:09):
gonna give him criticism, which I am right now. Then
the criticism were for those middle drafts after his first
few years because I think they got too cute, right,
They're like, let's get let's go get ourselves a Christian Michael,
let's go get ourselves for a shot, pay you know,
let's go let's go down that road. Let's I mean, Milik.

Speaker 4 (01:38:26):
They're also always picking at the end of the first round.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
That's part of it. I mean, let's go get Milik
McDowell to be so good like Milik McDowell. No, Dad,
oh my god, mcdull. Pick don't gonna save you there
as a second round pick, never played a game, never
played again. Now, in their defense, they didn't know that
he was going to wrap himself around a tree on
an ATV. But on the other side, there were a

(01:38:50):
zillion red flags with that guy too, right. But see,
they don't take him in twenty seventeen if they aren't
having this great success they've already had, like they're just
filling out the roster right like there, Like okay, well,
let's let's take a couple of running backs, because you know,
Marshawn Lord knows when he's just going to go off
the deep end, right, like he might just ride his
bike all the way back down to the Bay Area.

Speaker 6 (01:39:09):
And call it it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:10):
Oh wait, he did threw his shoes up on the
Super Bowl Sunday and decided to quit, So I get
what they were doing. But yeah, they took a lot
of flyers on guys. Now, it's like they took a
flyer on Emon Wory last year and the guy ends
up being if you're in a redraft right now, he'd
be a top ten pick, right, So like no doubt,
Like I trust in what Schneider's doing. But yeah, they
have they took some flyers over the years for sure.

(01:39:31):
But yeah, that's that's you can play that game. You know,
the Christian Michael was Travis Kelce, right, wasn't that the
one he took? They took Michael for Travis Kelsey. I think, yeah,
so that's no fun. That's not a fun game to
play with. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:43):
Here's the bottom line though to this whole thing is
this is not an exact science, and you're dealing with
kids and you just talked about your son And I
got a twenty two year old son who's who's a
numbskulled ninety percent of the time. Yeah, but he's gonna
put me in his in an old folks so someday,
So don't tell him I said that. But you know,
that's what you're dealing with. And so it's like which
way they're gonna go because with some kids, they get
millions of dollars and they say, oh, I gotta go

(01:40:04):
earn it. With a lot of kids, they go, god,
I got millions, millions of dollars and I'm already like
I'm set for life.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
What do I need to deal with?

Speaker 3 (01:40:09):
Especially when you're talking nil now, Like, you just don't
know how these kids are going to react at what
kind of work out there they're going to do, how
tough they are, how much they want it, you know,
all these different factors that maybe that aren't physical in nature.
And you can sit there and interview kids and they
can give you all the right answers. I mean, who
hasn't sat there in a job interview and bs their
head off. I mean, I have my God, that's what
I do for a living. So I mean, it's just

(01:40:30):
you just don't know really what's real with a lot
of these kids. The one thing I would say though,
about the better teams, they get guys who fit what
they're trying to do, and if they screw up, they
screw up. But there's so many teams at the top
of the draft that they're there every single year and
they don't know what they're doing, and they're just throwing
darts at a board. They don't know what they're trying
to get. They don't know what kind of character they're

(01:40:51):
trying to do. They're just oh my god. Mel Kiper
said that, you know, Rvel Reese is the best player,
I'd better pick that guy, like, I'm not sorry, I'm
not gonna pick a positionless guy. Now, he might be
the next Michel Parsons, I get it, But I wouldn't
take him at two if I were the Jets. I
wouldn't take him at three if.

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
I were the Cardinals. The Cardinals have already tried that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
The Cardinals have taken you know, guys like Simmons and
so forth, Zaven Collins. It's like they didn't have a position.
So maybe that works. But I just think that the
smarter teams, they make things a little bit harder in
terms or much a little bit easier, because the bottom
line is, and you know this, Look, the first round
pick is fifty to fifty, and.

Speaker 1 (01:41:29):
It goes down from there.

Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
And think about that, yet, fifty in the first round,
whether they get whether they get to a second contract,
fifty to fifty, whether they get to a second contract,
and then the numbers go down from there. So everybody
thinks their team should be hitting all these picks.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
That's not how it works.

Speaker 6 (01:41:44):
No, I just we got to go.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
But I just hope Ty Simpson doesn't to end up
in Arizona. That'd be classic because we don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:41:50):
To worry that I got it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:51):
I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
Look, so I'm a little I'm here far away. Go quick,
hold on, just real quick. This is important.

Speaker 3 (01:41:59):
You know that Seattle's fit can A lot of people
are putting him in Arizona, the Alabama quarterback, but the
Jets are sitting at you know, thirty three. I wouldn't
be surprised whatsoever. And I did see this yesterday somebody
wrote about this. Look, the Seahawks don't carry their trading
with the Seahawks are.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
Worried about themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:42:13):
I wouldn't be surprised if the Seahawks and Cardinals got together,
unless the Cardinals earlier than that. But I wouldn't be
shocked whatsoever if if because Arizona sits at thirty five
in the second round, I wouldn't be surprised at all
if if Arizona called and tried to get ahead of
the Jets to get Simpson and like you said, get
the extra year, uh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:28):
In the you know for the first round for the
for the quarterback that you got to develop. All right,
you're the best, by the way, I'm gonna call you
on Saturday. Probably on Saturday. We'll put you on the
radio on the weekend for talking draft.

Speaker 6 (01:42:37):
All right, just uh, and.

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
I know you do.

Speaker 3 (01:42:41):
Let's do it, all right, talk to You'll call about
twenty minutes late.

Speaker 12 (01:42:43):
Though this time this isn't happening again. I just this
is I'm not mister reliable here. I'm not I'm not
on the wrong President John. Instead, we went six minutes
past our break time, so it's even better. All right, Oh,
put them on hold, put them on holds, put him
on holds.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
He's done.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
We're done. We're out of here.

Speaker 6 (01:42:58):
My god.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
All right, well we'll check the text coming up next.

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Speaker 13 (01:43:24):
Hey guys, casey Legamina here, I just wanted to thank
the Mariner fans and in particular Dan Wilson. You know,
playing for a manager that has no idea what he's doing.
I thought I was brought on the team to throw
batting practice. I didn't know i'd get to throw batting
practice in the middle of games. It's really nice they
give me a chance out of Gonzaga saying that I

(01:43:44):
have a sweeper.

Speaker 4 (01:43:45):
But I have a sweeper that doesn't sweep.

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
It's more like a duster.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
So just want to thank Dan Wilson for give.

Speaker 1 (01:43:50):
Me that chance. Timing is everything he was defad about
ten minutes ago. That came in before that, I promise,
I know Casey had no idea when he called in
that he got d FA. Yeah, some guy named is
Andrew Happy who I called up? I don't know, Alex Hoy,
Alex Hopey, Yeah, whatever, all right, keep going. I wish
I was more tech savvy than I am.

Speaker 14 (01:44:12):
Me too, or i'd have the theme to The Price
is Right playing because Ian Fornes, come on down. You
are the NBA hypocrite of the day, yes, saying that
you watched the NBA playoffs before there's an NBA team
back in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
You need to go do your fifty hail Mary's. Oh
that's the lasting. I want to not want to do
that way, and I don't know. I never got through it.

Speaker 4 (01:44:39):
That Catholic such a bad.

Speaker 1 (01:44:44):
And somewhere some place up on First Hill at Odai
High School, they're not their heads going yep, sure glad
we got Nate Berlison, got the guy on TV not
very good, don't want any part of him.

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
I got one more.

Speaker 15 (01:44:55):
All right, Hey, Ian Seattle sports guy here with another
sports update. Scott's service was seen at the hat Backbar
and girl laughing hysterically and uncontrollably.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
When asked why, he.

Speaker 13 (01:45:07):
Said his favorite thing to do is watch the Mariners
manage by Dan Wilson and realized he.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
Wasn't that bad. Also, Ballard High.

Speaker 13 (01:45:16):
School welcomes its new point guard Miles Rice for his
fit transfers just played for everybody else in the country,
but assures it's not the program.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Actually got an update on that it's not. Ballard High School.
Jamal Crawford just signed him to play at Rainier Beach. Yeah. Yeah,
he's gonna play at Rayner Beach next year, so you
get paid more than less next place. Jack's unless Brandon
roy gets a job at Roosevelt Ingram if he's if
if for some reason, Brandon is side because he's already

(01:45:48):
done the Nathan Hale things. So let's see what other
also ran high school hopes program in the Metro League. Yea,
I'd say Ingram or Ingram or maybe maybe Roosevelt, one
of those two. Probably, Yeah, Brandon's gonna coach them, and
Miles rise Be his point guard.

Speaker 4 (01:46:01):
Fell some eligibility.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
How that happened, I don't know how that happened, and
then I left four more years eligibilia college. Where you go,
let's see, okay, here we go to five to three.
This is early the show. You and I invest little
to no time watching college basketball for all the reasons
you brought up. Wake me up and march Maddis Brackett
comes out so I can compete against my friends. It's
becoming irrelevant who wins. It literally comes down to which

(01:46:23):
team it has the best transfer talent. No thanks, Steve says,
it's interesting youth sports problem as well. Kids are shoving
for the best program of young ages. As a former
youth sports coach, this is one hundred percent in college.
Too many of them telling grass screen or somewhere else.
I forget it does pay to be a forever legend. Yeah,

(01:46:44):
I think it's a little apples and orange zola. You
want to go play for a select soccer team or
a travel baseball team, and it's different because you are
like you are paying. Yeah, you're not getting paid, you're paying.

Speaker 6 (01:46:55):
You're paying them.

Speaker 1 (01:46:56):
And then a lot of times it's based on costs.

Speaker 4 (01:46:57):
Right, And you want to like, if you're a parent,
you want your kid to play. If he's out a
place where he's not playing a lot, all right, we'll
going to go to this club where he's going to
We're paying all his money, might as well have played.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Talking about the college stuff again, well said he. And
it used to be the biggest college basketball and football
fan ever. Whatever happened to the Brandon Roys, that John Brockman's,
the Quincy Pondexters, the Marcus Tuyas and Sopos of the world,
and the lifelong UB fans started out barely playing, and
they all had small roles, and they all developed and
stayed by their senior year, as they'll be remembered forever.
That won't happen anymore. We had that conversation a lot

(01:47:28):
on the wazoo side with Alex and MK during our
fall conversations too, And yeah, I'm with you. I mean, listen,
John Brockman is a great example that.

Speaker 6 (01:47:36):
I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:47:36):
John Brockman had an NBA.

Speaker 6 (01:47:37):
Career, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:47:39):
And and but here's the thing in today's world, in
today's world, with those guys have stuck around. Yeah, that's
probably no, probably not. And that's not a shot that
you dub. It's just the reality. I'll give you an example. Wisconsin,
which beat you dub in the Big Ten tournament right yep,
and was a tournament team. Uh that really good player.

(01:48:00):
This name will bring up shivers Down's Husky fans spines
because he lit him up, John Blackwell, number three guy
in the transfer portal. He left Wisconsin Big ten team
in the tournament going to do like just it's just
out of control, man. And if you think it's not,
then God bless you. But I don't know how you

(01:48:22):
know it's ruined. College basketball is a two of six
the entire roster. Fiot that the cruse every year is
the worst variable that ends fans loyalty, exactly, hard to
be loyal, hard to be excited. We had a conversation
with John Harlowe earlier when it just there's no there's
no continuity.

Speaker 2 (01:48:36):
You can't it's like, who are you rooting for?

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
Well, and Andrews brought it up a great point. You
want to see guys develop. You want to see that
improvement from year to year. Freshman is soptware, sophomore to junior, junior, senior,
blah blah blah. You know, I think if nothing else,
if a guy leaves after one year to go to
the NBA, that's one thing. Yeah, that happens. But three
schools in three years, four and four, whatever it might be.

Speaker 5 (01:48:55):
Yeah, it's a new meeting to one and done. You
know he used to be one and done. The NBABA confession.

Speaker 1 (01:49:03):
I'm seeing a lot of texts.

Speaker 5 (01:49:04):
All right, all right, listen, we're gonna make up some
tablet of sports sins. I have hypocrisy on here as
you announced today, cross pollinadd fan hood, of which I
am guilty.

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
I think that's a good one.

Speaker 6 (01:49:21):
It's a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:49:22):
We'll keep coming up with more. You need seven h see.

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Sins.

Speaker 4 (01:49:33):
Yeah, yea, We've got a lot of text Okay, I
got a couple of good ones off from the beginning
of the show. Get one of the interns to get
Ian a coffee or something. He's having a moment, and
then it's like two minutes later, wait, I completely changed
my opinion. Everyone in the studio is having a moment.
Maybe we should restart the show. And then a few
minutes later, just kind of well thought out. It really

(01:49:54):
sounds like you guys have a blast making the show
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Speaker 3 (01:51:25):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
No, I'm moving your board over. Ut you know what
I mean?

Speaker 6 (01:51:29):
No, No, We're all good.

Speaker 16 (01:51:29):
This is the uh, this is nobody one of my
favorites right there, one of my favorites. Although I got
to find a better way to find stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Man, how do you know where all this stuff?

Speaker 6 (01:51:42):
I really don't. I'm moving stuff around all the time.
I have no idea where stuff is. I mean, it's
not where most of this stuff is.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Nikki. We just had Nikki on two weeks ago.

Speaker 6 (01:51:53):
I know this is this is the original. That's the
original one. Then that spawned this one, maroness, it's spawned
this one, and it's this one.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
Guys, I think we got him to do a new one.
Didn't when we had him on the show times ago.
You have to find that you can add. You can
add another one for you all on the way. So yeah,
we'll do that.

Speaker 16 (01:52:15):
We'll do that time I see that guy just like
a chicken, parmesan sandwiches and pizza have you every time.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
His dad is a great follow Joe Scarlatta. Okay, and
he's like this incredible cook, like incredible cook. And I
watched pop on his Instagram and it's like every time,
like I'm hungry, like I can I can have just
eaten dinner. And I'm like, damn, yeah, it's not just Sunday.
I'll get how how Nicky and his twin brothers so

(01:52:42):
skinny because this dude can cook, Like old Man.

Speaker 16 (01:52:44):
Know what it is about Italians, Man, Jessman knows because
you grewupper and a lot of them, Like there's no
middle ground. They're either fat as a house or skinny
as a rail between two.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
O'clock dinners, Sunday gravy or yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Yeah, the Sunday sauce Old Joel makes is remarkable. It's remarkable.

Speaker 6 (01:53:00):
Maybe you do a remote from Nicki Scarlatta's house.

Speaker 1 (01:53:03):
Nick Nicky, he lives island. He's on Staten Island. Yeah,
where are you from?

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Long Island?

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
Same same thing?

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
No, not even just check whoa.

Speaker 16 (01:53:14):
It's like somebody's saying they're from New York. But they're
from like Ithaca, New York. That's practically Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
That's that's a good What's like, what's the comparison here saying, hey, soft,
are you from Des Moines? No, you're from where you're from?

Speaker 16 (01:53:25):
No, I'm from Walla, Walla, Okay, state of Washington. We're
from Seattle.

Speaker 6 (01:53:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:53:29):
From Somebody says, I, do you live in Burian you'd
be offended, right.

Speaker 6 (01:53:32):
No, that's it's just south Okay, ten minutes away. Okay.
I'm just like, if you're in a twenty minute radius, whatever,
you're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Yeah, half our radios. I I was telling my buddy
John Lyne, I played your golf course on Saturday. I
saw you there and I eighteen holes, didn't have one beer. Crazy, Huh.
That's that's weird.

Speaker 6 (01:53:50):
That's disappointing. By the way, is what that is?

Speaker 16 (01:53:51):
A couple after I don't even know you, man, I know, honestly,
I know I'm trying to show off in front of
your kid that you know. It's not cool anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Just want to beat him.

Speaker 6 (01:54:00):
It's all wanted Skinny your kid is. By the way,
speaking of Skinny.

Speaker 1 (01:54:02):
I know what the hell I know?

Speaker 6 (01:54:04):
Well, the guy of like light bow or something. He works.

Speaker 1 (01:54:07):
That guy works out like nobody's business, like he's just me.
He's yeah, exactly, Like, here's the problem. Here's a problem.
Guess where I'm going after work again, to the to
the gym, and I won't look like that ever, ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 6 (01:54:19):
That's because you go to the gym and you'll have
a hamburger.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
Oh, I kind of sit around, look around you are,
I go, who's here to talk to? What am I
doing walking around? I think when you walk in, you
just feel like you've accomplished something.

Speaker 2 (01:54:31):
Twelve curls camp.

Speaker 6 (01:54:32):
Yeah you know, well you said you wanted to beat him.
Did you beat him?

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
Yeah? Okay, good?

Speaker 6 (01:54:36):
Yeah, Yeah, that's not really his strong suit though, is it.

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
No, he's actually he's yeah better than me right now.
He's getting there, But I don't. Oh, I know, I know,
I know eventually he's all buddies with guys out there
working and stuff, and I'm just like, yeah, whatever, I'm
just gonna still kick your ass and make sure you
know who's in charge here. And so we did just that,
just that. Uh, you're in a husky practice today.

Speaker 6 (01:54:57):
No, we're at Jimmy's.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Actually wait what what?

Speaker 6 (01:55:02):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
Maybe schule wrong.

Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
No, the schedule is right. We pulled a audible.

Speaker 4 (01:55:06):
Oh what are you doing? Now?

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
They're paying tribute to Casey lem.

Speaker 16 (01:55:13):
Here lies Casey Legoma after he puked all over himself
last night and he just got fired.

Speaker 6 (01:55:18):
Poor bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:55:19):
Where do you go to school again?

Speaker 6 (01:55:20):
I have no idea. Did he really? You didn't know what?

Speaker 9 (01:55:24):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:55:24):
Yeah, I don't like Gonzaga. I know you don't. I
brought it up. He knows all those guys. By the way,
speaking of my favorite drops, Gonzaga fan base is arrogant.

Speaker 4 (01:55:38):
I don't think I've ever heard that one.

Speaker 6 (01:55:41):
Gonzaga fan base is arrogant about this one.

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
The thing with the Cougar fan base, it's minor league football.

Speaker 1 (01:55:47):
Now, speaking of arrogant, you got to say to that, well,
I just suck on that for a while, you know
what that one?

Speaker 5 (01:55:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:55:55):
Probably just probably just get on my phone and call
some of my friends.

Speaker 6 (01:55:58):
At it's minor lely football man.

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
Yeah, yeah, I'll just uh, I'll just get on my
phone and have them rally the troops one of those
one of those memorable calls. What remember we called rally
the troops against Stephane.

Speaker 6 (01:56:12):
That's right, and you know what, if you didn't make
that call, you went up two great kids.

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 9 (01:56:18):
Oh my god, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Just an idiot.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
All right, what are we doing today?

Speaker 6 (01:56:27):
I Marge, what's today? Tuesday? Well, we're gonna move things around.

Speaker 16 (01:56:32):
Petros at four, the Bock tomorrow from Dino so Floorio
at three, ten, Petros at four.

Speaker 6 (01:56:41):
John Wilner is gonna join at five. I'm sure we'll
talk some draft with him.

Speaker 3 (01:56:45):
Uh.

Speaker 16 (01:56:45):
And then six pm we're gonna get our buddy, Sir
rend Petro from Kansas City. And then Jody Taylor, sports
talk legend in Arizona, would join us talk some Cardinals
before the Dick and Softies Cockamamy Hardball.

Speaker 6 (01:56:56):
Pregame show at about six fifteen tonight before the MS take.

Speaker 1 (01:57:00):
Do you have a new open made for that yet?

Speaker 6 (01:57:01):
Nope, we just call it the cock It maybe Hardball.

Speaker 1 (01:57:03):
Prix, because I want to hear that with big voice
Guy Coca.

Speaker 6 (01:57:06):
Maybe hardball pre game.

Speaker 10 (01:57:07):
Thank you very much, seeing by for the mild mannered
and marginally objectionable e Inverness.

Speaker 1 (01:57:13):
This is paddled Day saying so long everyone,

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