Furness Show 4-22: Steve Palazzolo, Jason Botterill, Bobby McMann

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I heard we got good times going on in the building.
Is that right? Power situation is not resolved, is that right?

Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yes, the generator is very loud and we have a
very strong one which allows us to be on the
air right now.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
But so I picked a good day to be on
a remote at the thirty two.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It helps, It helps, and you're gonna get Kenny's going
to give you a great lunch too, and I'm very jealous.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward to that. We'll see what,
we'll see what Kenny's going to fire on our way
in a little bit. We'll get some food going on,
so which I love. And then tomorrow, the next two
days will be the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, So I'll
see maybe by next Monday the building will be fixed. Maybe.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
No, that's above our pay grades. So yeah, we are.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
We are very much hoping that it will be and
you know, place to go to a show man. We're
going to be at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center the
next few days anyway, because we got drafted.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Well listen, if it's not fixed by monday, Kenny, can
I come back your Monday. Our building's got issues. Can
I come back your Monday. Nothing can I come back.
Our building's got power issues. Okay, I'll just be back here.

Speaker 4 (01:05):
He's completely serious to he doesn't know that, like you're
kind of just playing it off, right.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
No, he's because I'll come out here, tell people to
come out to hit me out thirty two try the
pizza fantastic. By the way, they got good specials during
the NHL playoff game. So yeah, all right, well I
got a home you guys, sorry, I'd bring you with me,
but someone's got to be back there Tor on the show,
So yeah, where you go. All right, let's touch in
our baseball team real fast? Shall we? Shall we do that?
Why I thought the highlight for me was seeing the

(01:32):
story this morning Adam Jude did on Ryan Healy and
I and I say that with all sincerity because we've
had Ryan on not we He's been in the morning
morning show for a while now, towards the end of
last season, going through the playoffs, right, and remember the
first time I heard his voice, and with Bucky and
with Chuck, I'm like, Damn, this guy's good. He's really good,

(01:53):
like really good. And then I'm like, I wonder how
he's gonna sound on. You know if he did, like
actual brock up really good, really good, like has a
great rapport with Goldie. I like that. That to me
has been the highlight the last two nights. Yeah, because
the baseball has not been a highlight. I and and
good for Ryan, good for the Marris. I mean, I

(02:13):
think it's gotta be be honest with you. It's probably
a little hard on Goldie. He's got how many they have,
They've got Valley, Angie, Ryan, Roland Smith, Healey and occasionally,
well they're all occasionally. Yeah, one's so five different. That's
a lot, man, that's hard. Yeah, Goldie is a pro though.
That's why he's a Sportscaster of the Year. The guy's

(02:35):
an absolute pro. He's just a great job. But Ryan Heally, man,
I note to the Mariners, use him more, use him more.
And that's not it. That's not a slight on anybody
else on the broadcast at all. I'm not I'm not
trying to do that by any means. I'm just saying
that Ryan Healey is really good and I'm glad he's
part of our station doing stuff with with our morning show.
So that's the highlight. The low light is the fact
that you just lost a series of the a's. And

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I thought Goldie last night, oh my god, he was Yeah, like,
he's been there long enough now and has established himself
well enough now that he can kind of pull off
the Dave Knee house. Foresland does this as well. You
got like you can say what you really think, and honestly,

(03:18):
what you can say is also what fans are thinking exactly.
And they lost to a guy last night that throws
about as fast as Benton's kid does up in the
Evert Little League. Okay, so like and and how do
I know that? Because Goldie said it about one hundred times. Yeah,
that they lost to that guy was.

Speaker 4 (03:37):
One of the highest walk rates in baseball and has
not had a start this year. That that where he
gave up less than three walks and he gave up
to yesterday.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Is that bad?

Speaker 4 (03:46):
That's pretty bad, I'd say, I'm just checking.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
I don't know, I'm just I'm That's why I'm asking
the question, because it just doesn't seem optimum at all. Listen,
it's a frustrating start. Ten to fifteen is what it is.
It just it's at some point, though, you got to
turn this damn thing around and and if and I
guess maybe at some point what you've got to do
is you've got to show something and a little sign

(04:11):
of life. I think they I don't know if they
fall into a trap of this or not, but I'm
gonna just throw out a general assessment. It doesn't feel
if because they go through this every year. It feels
like there's like no sense of urgency. It's like, oh,
here we go again. We're fine, We've don this before, right,
and you you should win this division going away. And

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if you you know, if if I had to bet
a mortgage on it right now, mortgage payment on it
right now, I'd say that they're gonna. I would put
money on them winning the division. In fact, I would
put them versus the field. I would put big money
on to win the Ale West. I think that's how
that's how good they are. But I think what we
got to get to the point of remembering is it's
not just about that. It's also about like, if you

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are who you think you are, and that's a really
good team that is going to compete at a very
high level and get deep into the playoffs and all
those things, you still want to have home field advantage, right, like,
you still want to have that. You still want to
have that home end. Last year they did not for
Game seven in Toronto and they missed it by four games.

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So yeah, every game still matters. The nailor thing has
to be a concern, just has to be. We've talked
about it on Mollywop over and over again and I
don't know, Andrews, if you hit this on the postcast
last night. Yeah, but the nailor thing, it has to
be a concern, does it not?

Speaker 5 (05:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (05:38):
And one hundred percent does.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
And it just because you have a game last night
where Cal and Julio both get on base three times.
So that was kind of the main issue for the
first part of the season. Oh, we got to get Cal,
Julio and Naylor going right and the last two games
callin Julia have been doing just fine on the offensive
side of the ball, and Josh Nayler's still just I
don't know, Man's it's a bad ap pro it's it's

(06:01):
You're right about the no urgency thing, because I get
the same vibe and unfortunately I don't think they have
the manager like for good or for for better or
for worse, they don't have the manager that's going to
be the kick and the butt type of manager there.
They have the hey, we're playing the long game, get
your head down, go to work, all that kind of stuff.
So I don't know, I don't know what the where
the fix is on this. I don't know if it's
a trade, but it just it just seems like they

(06:24):
need some sort of change. And maybe that's Emerson getting
called up.

Speaker 1 (06:26):
Who knows, At the risk of pissing off our afternoon show.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Oh wait, you want to put a b in that pony.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
I already did that yesterday. It's okay, No, I yeah
that No, I'm going a different route. Oh okay, okay,
because and I heard Chuck this morning talking about it too,
and I think he's one hundred percent right like casey
uh leg, I mean ends up being kind of a scapegoat.
And yes, I think Chuck's words where he didn't deserve

(06:54):
to be DF eight, but he should never have been
in all the high leverage situations he was this season,
and the rules that they put in place, whether it's
Dan or management or what have you, or the decisions
that are made that have put him in that position.
To all of a sudden you know, kind of be
the guy while it's his fault, and there's refreshed everyone's
memory about Game seven and Edward Bizarre.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Do I need to please I think no, but I
think it's needed.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
What happened in that.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
You're you're against You have the lead in Game seven
to alcs for a chance to go to the World Series.
Eight outs left, everyone knows, and you have the most
the highest leverage part of the order. It's not the
highest leverage moment in the game, per se, but the
most dangerous part of the Blue Jays order, including George Springer,
and that's yeah, that's who ended up killing you. You go,

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you have Moonnos available, but you're trying to save him
for the ninth inning, and you go to Edward Bizardo
and he you know, we all know the ending of
that story. So that's why the frustration was there.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
So that decision, which will haunt Dan Wilson forever, is
one of many that we look at with Wilson, the
Ryan Heay decision, or Healey, the Luke Rayley decision, their buddies. Actually, yeah,
as I read today, decision to pinch it for him
with a career, well not a career, but basically a

(08:17):
four A guy in Connor, Joe and just pitching decision
after pitching decision. There's a reason that Dan Wilson is
under a lot of chrism. There's a reason that Joe,
she and and other guys that know the game far
better than all of us are coming on our show
and saying, yeah, I think I have a concern about
Dan Wilson, not just Nate and Chris and Anders, but others.

(08:41):
Here's here's my concern. And it's hard because I think
none of us are buddies with them, or not drinking
with them and hanging out with off with them. But
Dan Wilson, for any interaction anybody's ever happens a really
good news of Mariner, Hall of Famer and all those things,
there's a nice guy. My concern is this, and I
think it's a legit them at. Concern that a lot

(09:01):
of fans would share is that there are enough decisions
that are critical. Not just a Game seven decision, but
in twenty five games this season, there's probably been a
dozen that we could critique from Dan Wilson.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
You you may.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
Not get to the heights you need to get to
with this guy as your manager. With this roster, this
pitching staff, specifically the starting pitching, but even the back
end of that rote of the bullpen, you may not
reach the capabilities of this team with him managing. We

(09:38):
don't know yet. Time will tell. But remember why they
got rid of why they got rid of Scott Service? Yeah,
because they wanted to take that next step. And in
a sense they did playoffs, seven games all that. But
would Service have got him there too? Maybe? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
There's a lot there's a lot of speculation there, but
I would even say this about Dan Wilson, you could
take a step further. I think Casey Legemina situation is
actually a microcosm of the Dan Wilson situation. He was
put He was put in a position not to succeed, right,
and it's just it's not a good spot to be.
And he had never been a manager before, let alone

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at any level, not not in the major leagues, not
in the minor leagues. He had not been a manager before,
and he's expected to kind of lead this team in
their self proclaimed World Series window and you take him
over the over the hump, and I don't like you said,
he's a great guy. I think he eventually could be
a good manager, but you're not setting him up for

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success in this situation.

Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, And I think that's the concern. And I just
it was weird, Lessen. It's so weird because I'm watching
the contract the contrast on like NHL playoff games back
and forth, Mariner game and it's April marinor game what
have you, right, c as with you know, five thousand
people in the building and what have you. I get that,
but it just you're kind of watching the a's and

(11:06):
their body language and watching the Mariners and it's just like, yeah,
we'll COASTU. We'll turn it around. We always do. We
always start slow and we'll turn it around.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
And I just think there has to be more of Hey,
games in April matter more or matter as much as
games in May, June, July, and August and September, right
like they just do. But I thought what Chuck said
this morning was banging on as I'm taking my two
hour commute out here, was he was a fact that
you know, Aga Mina was put in a position to

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swift to fail, and like you said, maybe Dan was
putting that same position. Time will tell maybe it'll do it.
They always do. Hit a switch, turn it around and
have these great maize and June's and away you go.
But right now it's not not too promising. All right,
NFL Draft, Eve, We'll take a break. Come back, Steve
Powe's will check the Mike thirty thirteen, he'll join us.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
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Speaker 1 (12:21):
All right, Steve Pelozolo joined us thirty thirteen. Check the
Mic podcast on this twenty twenty six NFL Draft Eve. Steve,
how are you, buddy?

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Doing great? We're just about there, just about there right now.
Feel good.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Good time of the year, buddy. Good to listen. We've
been talking a lot of Seahawks specific stuff for a while.
Now I want to do something little different today because
I frankly have been guilty of this, of just kind
of ignoring the first round, to be honest with you,
because our local team, Steve, I don't know if you
know this, they won the Super.

Speaker 7 (12:56):
Bowl this year.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
That gives them the thirty second pick in the draft.
So we've been kind of but I know people have
a massive interest in the draft as a whole. So
I want to kind of bounce around the first round
and gets some thoughts from you on maybe some players
and specific teams and what you kind of see they
might do before I do that. Let me take one
step back. We had Monday, we had the John Schneider

(13:18):
Mike McDonald news conference. We were out there doing the
show out there and Schneider was massively open Morse and
we all know his history. He likes to trade down.
That's how he does it. I think it's fourteen times
he's done so since coming to Seattle in the first round.
He loves to trade down. I don't ever remember him
coming out point blank and saying, hey, we're open for business.

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We want to move down. He said, Steve, basically, Hey,
it's no secret we want to move down. That thirty
second pick because of the fifth year option, probably has
more value to somebody than it does to us, But
I think other team's going to want to do the
same thing. How challenging do you think it will be
for John Schneider to move down out of that first,
that thirty second pick and do what he wants to do,

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and that's accumulate more picks, especially on Day three.

Speaker 8 (14:03):
I think it'll be easier at thirty two maybe than
at the top of the draft. I think the top
of the draft is challenging because there's so you know,
there's only so many blue chip players to go around,
and you have to give up a lot. I think,
you know, now, the decision I think John might have
to make is do I help a team in the
division like Arizona who might want Ty Simpson and maybe

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they're the team that wants to come up and get
the quarterback and make sure that they get them ahead
of the Jets again and make sure that they walk
in the fifth year. That's more I think maybe one
of the decisions John Schneider has to make there. But
I think there'll be some opportunities there at the back
end of the first Like that's every part of the draft.
Every draft, there's a point where the boards diverge and

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opinions change, and I think in this draft it's earlier
than ever. It's early in the top ten, maybe at
two or three, where it's usually six or seven, eight,
And I think sometimes it's the middle of the second
where opinions diverge. It might be the late first where
teams are just like, look, i don't care where everyone
else values this player. I'm taking him at twenty five,
or I'm taking him at thirty, or I'm going to

(15:05):
get my guy, because I think opinions on this draft
are going to be all over the place.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
Well, and I think one of the things that he
did say that he goes, hey, we have great relationships
with the other teams in our division. I'm not adverse
to trading in our own division with somebody as well,
which I thought was also an interesting dynamics. I hadn't heard,
you know, a guy actually say that before. But the
ty Simpson one seems to be the logical run, right
if if you have the ability to draft a quarterback
later in the first round, so the salary goes down

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obviously with every pick, but you still if you like him,
you have that fifty year option available for a quarterback
that would be ideal. I would assume that's probably what
in some ways they're rooting to see ty Simpson keep
dropping in this draft.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 8 (15:45):
I mean I think he's the he's the player to
keep an eye on, because it'll look a lot like
Jackson Dark potentially last year. Yeah, you know, you hear
people say all the time, Well, if Arizona loves ty
Simpson that much, why not take him at three? Well,
there's a there's not a lot of teams looking for qbs,
and ty Simpson's not a slam dunk top ten player,
and I think Arizona has a chance to either pick
somebody at three, trade down, pick someone else, but also

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maneuver back up to get ty Simpson, or just wait
and get them early second.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
That's just where his value is.

Speaker 8 (16:14):
So yeah, I think that's that's the most likely play
and where a lot of the smoke is in part
because where the Jets also need a QB, but they
have all their picks for next year. They're not I
don't think, in a hurry right now to find their
quarterback or force it if they don't have to. So
Arizona does feel like the most logical spot for Ty
Simpson for sure.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
I love talking to you about team, about roster building,
because you love talking. That's kind of your thing. We're
out here at the Hockey Arena, the practice facility for
our NHL team for the cracking today and where the
word rebuild gets brought up all the time, right, And
it's one of those it's not a four letter word,
but it is a four letter word because you hear
it tossed around a lot. And I was just talking

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to the GM Jason Bottroll about this and we got
an interview coming up with later. It's not something you
see truly in a lot of sports, a quote unquote
true rebuilt, right, because usually you have guys on contract,
they're harder to move. I think the NFL might be
the exception. Is the NFL a league where you truly
can't rebuild, and the Jets are doing that right now.

Speaker 5 (17:16):
You could.

Speaker 8 (17:17):
You could spend a couple of years now. It can't
take forever, you know. I mean, it's not like you can't.
You don't have time to do the five year deal,
but you can do it pretty quickly and you can,
you know, tear it down a little bit to build
it back up. I'll say this though, I think it's
I think it's becoming tougher because you know, it's tough
to you got to hit on your draft picks, and
then I think it's tough to sprinkle in free agents. Now,

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I said, look, here's where the NFL is unique. The
individual player, the quarterback changes everything, and that's where you
accelerate it. So if you're the Bears, you know, getting
Kayleb Williams, or you're the Patriots getting Drake may or
the Commanders getting Jadeen Daniels, that changes everything.

Speaker 5 (17:55):
Yeah, and that's why in.

Speaker 8 (17:57):
The NFL it could happen quickly if you find the quarterback,
but also to turnover the roster might still take three
years to fully you know, a team like the Titans
who found the quarterback, or even the Commanders who found
jade and Daniels. They had the one year of success,
but it takes a couple of years to really turn
the roster over. Even what John's done in Seattle, you know,
it takes a couple of years to get everybody in

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and to build off that foundation. And you know, Seattle
at least had a better base. Tennessee is really starting
from a tough spot, and some of these teams just
don't have a ton of talent right now. So yeah,
it's like it could be quick if you find the quarterback.
It could be a little bit longer if the if
the quarterback takes a while like it has maybe for
a team like the Jets right.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now and see pellas will to check the Mike Podcast
thirty third team. All right, let's get to it. Raiders.
We I assume there's no drama expected tomorrow It'll be
for Banana Mendoza and away we go.

Speaker 8 (18:50):
Yeah, for Nanda Mendoza and then moving on, he'll be
the QB of the future for the for the Raiders.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
So then we get to the Jets. The aforementioned Jets,
Cardinals have two and three, Titans four, and Giants five.
A lot of different places we could go Reese the
edge rusher out of Ohio State, the running back Jeremiah Love. Obviously,
people like sunny styles, Caleb Downs. How do you kind
of see the next few picks going in that draft

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in that order? And do you think we'll see any
movement with Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants in that top five?

Speaker 8 (19:24):
So from what there was originally a point where I
thought the Cardinals might be able to trade down. Maybe
Tennessee could trade down from four. It sounds like a
lot of the movement might not start until six, maybe
with the Browns, and so I think they're gonna end
up making the picks at the top, the Jets and Cardinals.
The Jets might still be undecided from what the rumors
are at pick two, and like they've basically been on

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the clock for four months now. Height everybody's known it's Mendoza.
The Jets have pretty much been on the clock since
the season end. It's a three months and I think
they might still be undecided. I think ultimately it comes
down to r Bel Reese versus David Bailey. Maybe there's
a wild card in there, but I would say it's
r Bel Reese at two. Would be the my final
answer if you had to ask me today what you are,

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it's tomorrow the draft, so I'd say it's r Bel Reese.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
So they're gonna go. They're gonna probably go edge because Bailey,
Bailey and Reese are the two top edge players.

Speaker 8 (20:18):
Yeah, and the Jets they brought in a lot of
defensive line help this offseason, but more second tier type
of players. They still need impact players on the defensive
side of the ball. They were offul last year, and
so I think it's one of those guys at two
for sure.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Caleb Downs, the safety out of Ohio State, was a
player that we have talked about. Everyone had talked about
It's for all season long as being like a top
two or three pick.

Speaker 9 (20:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
I don't want to say he slipped, because you know
who who's to decide, right, But where would you where
would you see Caleb Downs going? How high should he go?
And where's the fit for Caleb Downs?

Speaker 5 (20:55):
I mean, he's the type of safety that should go
in the top ten.

Speaker 8 (20:58):
And then in a draft where there's not a clean
group of wide receivers, tackles, even pass rushers, it makes
even more sense for Downs to go in the top ten.
I think a team like the Saints would make a
lot of sense at eight. The Commanders could use the
defensive help at seven, but they might have some better
options on the defensive line if a Ruben Bain falls,
But I mean if he gets past Dallas at twelve,

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I would be really surprised Downs, because it's just I
think people are getting bored of the process. He's a
great football player. He was a great football player for
three straight years, one at Alabama, two in Ohio State.
He could play all over the secondary. He doesn't have
the freak athleticism that Nicki Manwari has or even Derwin
James and some of these other safeties who have been

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first rounders or in even Warri's case, early second rounder
and have made an impact. Doesn't have the size of
a Kyle Hamilton. But he's a lot like Brian Branch
from the Detroit Lions, who is a second rounder but
has been an impact player, was a first round talent.
And I think, look, somebody's gonna say, just give me
the football player. He's you know, football iq.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
Off the charts.

Speaker 8 (22:02):
I think downs at least goes in the top twelve.
You gotta plug and play high end safety right away.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Even worry, And I don't know if I asked you this
last week or and I know I'm discussing with one
with one of the guys we're talking to draft with
along the way coast Sell maybe, but Nick, Nick even
worry if he was in if we knew what we
knew about him, right and he was in this year's draft,
how high would he go? Or maybe even this is
a better question, a better way to phrase it, Steve,
are people looking for that type of guy that like, Okay,

(22:30):
he doesn't really fit the trip to typical safety role.
He's more of a big nickel play that what have you.
But you just mentioned with Caleb Downs, like, Caleb Down's
really good, but he's not Nick even Worry, right, So
where would he even Worry fit into this year's drafter
or has he changed the way some teams think and like, Hey,
I'm gonna take a take a guy that that I
think can have this massive upside that doesn't fit into

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the typical box of This is what a free safety
looks like, This is what a strong safety looks like.
This is what a nickelback looks like.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, so I think it depends on the scheme.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
I mean, even Downs isn't Emon Warri physically, but he
could be a better football player than him. It certainly
was in college and wouldn't be surprised if he's a
better all around safety at the next level. But if
you have a plan like Seattle did for Emon Warre
and say, look, yeah he is our big nickel, He's
gonna play over the slot. He can cover tight ends,
he can cover slot receivers, he can make an impact
against the run as a as a blitzer. He can

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do it all, and we're going to use him in
that capacity. Then you say, okay, he's a top ten
to fifteen pick. Now if you're saying if you're just
a normal team that's just gonna play, you know, split safeties,
and say, oh, even Warre is our safety, I don't
know if he's a top twenty pick in this draft,
you know, so, I mean it depends on usage and
where you know where you're gonna put him. You know,

(23:42):
if Caleb Downs becomes the next day, you know, like
I said Brian branch Or Antoine Winfield, even who's just
a traditional free safety, you could still justify that pick
in the top ten to fifteen, but it's it's a
different role. So safety of all positions, I think you
really have to have a plan, especially when he had
unique skill set. It's like Iman Wari, like Kyle Hamilton
in this case, like a Caleb Downs.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
It is as Steve Pallasila joining us Check to Mike
Podcast thirty thirteen, what's the run going to be in
the early or mid first rounds? What position are we
going to see a run on at East? And I'll
throw a couple at you. Is it cornerback? Is it edge?
We just talked about a couple edge, you know, re Spailey,
they go Ruben Baynes. Maybe it comes a like like,

(24:24):
where is the run going to be? What position group?
All of a sudden is going to start the typical
like we see every year in the NFL Draft, a
first round run.

Speaker 8 (24:32):
So I think there'll be some add rushers at the top,
but I think the actual run is going to be
offensive tackle.

Speaker 5 (24:39):
You know, receivers interesting as well.

Speaker 8 (24:40):
But if you look at the tackles, you have Spencer
Fano from Utah, you have Francis Maley, Noa from Miami,
you have Caden Proctor from Alabama. Depending on who you
talk to, any of those three, and I'll throw Monroe
Freeling from Georgia in there. Any I've heard any of
those four as tackle one tackle two types, depending on
either the analyst you're talking about or you know what

(25:01):
teams are coveting. So Fano from Utah, Maui Noah from Miami,
Proctor from Alabama, Monroe Freelink from Georgia. I think they
could all go top fifteen. You have Blake Miller from Clemson,
and then you have Caleb low Move from Utah the
other on the other side, and then maxa Honaker from
Arizona State. So those are just that's seven tackles right there. Wow,

(25:22):
who I think could all go in the first round
before you even get to some of the guards. And
again in this type of draft where you say, okay,
there's not you know, there might not be some superstars here,
the idea of getting a starting tackle in this draft
I think is gonna be coveted by a lot of teams. Now,
the tricky part is the teams who really need tackles.
It doesn't start until the teams. So I don't know

(25:44):
that the run is like in the top ten or
anythink there's a couple teams that need tackles, but there's
also a bunch that are set. And so I think
in the teams and into the twenties, you start to
see some movement for the offensive tackles.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
It so maybe it's maybe this you're gonna wreck me
and say it's been not that long. But remember back
in the day, Steve, when the top offensive tackle was
an obvious number one overall pick. That doesn't seem to
be the case anymore.

Speaker 8 (26:12):
Yeah, I mean I think you still if you had
if you had the blue chip guy, like if Piney
Sool came out right now, or like if Pine School
was in this class, you'd have some discussions about that
and fin a school at the top or Joe wallt
a couple of years ago from the Chargers.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
I mean, that's the thing.

Speaker 8 (26:28):
Like the the it does feel like, you know, School
came out the same year as Jamar Chase, and you
debate and there's a heavy debate about those two players.
For say the Cincinnati Bengals at five, Joe Waltz came
out with Malik Neighbors. You know, two elite players at
valuable positions that there's a debate there for the Chargers
that year.

Speaker 5 (26:44):
So it seems like in next year's going to be
the same thing.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
We might have what the best wide receiver prospect in
Jeremiah Smith and the best cornerback prospect in Leonard Moore. Uh,
you know, in a decade or more coming out at
the same time. It does feel like a lot of
the elite players are coming in the same draft clock
In recent years.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Here is Caden Proctor, the Alabama tackle. Is he really
a tackle or is he a guard?

Speaker 5 (27:08):
I think teams see him as both.

Speaker 8 (27:09):
I mean, you could definitely justify putting the three hundred
and fifty pounder at guard.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
He actually moves really well.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
If you watched any college football, you saw Alabama feeding
him screens and him looking pretty good with the ball
in his hands. He doesn't always show up, yeah, I mean,
he was great running the ball. He doesn't always doesn't
always show up in his pass sets. But I think
he got better as this year year went on. So
I think there are definitely teams who say he's so
big he is tough for rushers to even get around him.
He's athletic enough keep him at tackle. But I think

(27:37):
if say the Chargers at twenty two had an opportunity
at Cayden Proctor and they have their two tackles all set,
they would love to plug him in right at right
guard and say, hey, go mall some people in the
run game. So I could see teams looking at Proctor
in both positions.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
What's the guard class look like to you? I mean,
it feels like we're not going to see a guard
go until maybe later in the first round. What does
the guard class look like?

Speaker 8 (28:00):
So Venga Yuana from Penn State seems to be the
consensus top guy.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
You know, Francis Maunoa from Miami.

Speaker 8 (28:06):
I know a lot of the people I like to
talk to really like him as a guard. So he's
another hybrid player, depends on the team. But Youana is
the best pure guard by the consensus. I think he
could go as high as maybe fourteen with the Ravens.
I'm interested to see maybe the Rams at thirteen if
they wanted to future proof that position because of the

(28:26):
power that he brings to the table. But I think
so Yoana could go top fifteen, and then I think
you have perhaps a couple guards sneaking into the late twenties.
Emmanuel Pregnan from Oregon. He could be of interest to
the Chargers if they really want to fill that need.
And then we're in this season where there's about ninety
players who have heard their name as potential, you know,
potential first rounders. Never know if this guy could sneak

(28:49):
into the first round. So the Chase Basontis from Texas
A and m and Keelan Rutledge from Georgia Tech have
been in first round mock drafts toward the end. So
that's four guards plus whatever you think of Maui Noah,
you know, who have at least had their had their
name written down in some prominent first round mock drafts
over the last few weeks. So there there could be

(29:10):
some movement there in the in the twenties.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Jadarium Price running back too, He's what do you think
in terms of grades? Is he a mid second round guy,
high second round guy? Where would you put Jadarian Price?

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (29:23):
I think I think he's a second rounder. I mean,
if you look at him, he's a good player. He's
got some burst, you know, I think he's good up
to twenty yards. I think he's got some questions as
far as overall past game goes. But even you know,
a couple of years ago when when Ken Walker and
Breece Hall went early second round, they felt like better
prospects than Price. You know, those were the top two
running backs off the board that year. Of course, in

(29:45):
recent years we've had Jon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs, We've had
a few more of these, you know, Ashton genties, a
few more of these clean first round types. I think
Price feels more like in a normal year, I think
he's like running back five to six, maybe seven, you know,
in in a deeper year, and he's got and he's
running back too. For a lot of people, I think
that ends up being the second round. If a team

(30:05):
has a desperate need, maybe they end up taking them,
you know, high second or you know, I know Seattle
gets mocked, uh you know for him and at thirty two.
I don't know if I see that happening necessarily with
their few draft picks, yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do it,
but yeah, they feel much better take it. If they
could trade down, pick up an extra couple of picks,
they feel much better about taking them. With so few picks,

(30:26):
you don't want to use one of them on a
running back. But I think he's a mid second round
type of player.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Overall. It's just such a need for Seattle, right, Like
I just I know, even on Monday when we're listening
to these guys Schneider and mcdonnald and they're like, oh,
you know, we feel good about a running back room,
and I'm like really, and like Emmanuel Wilson, like really, I.

Speaker 8 (30:45):
Mean, yeah, w Wilson's been a good occational guy. But yeah,
you I'm sure they want the big playability of Kenneth
Walker is going to be really tough to replace, but
I'm sure they want at least something more dependable there
that they can have here in the draft if possible.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
All right, last thing, Steve, what's a wildcard here is
whether it's a player that all of a sudden drops
where we didn't think he would drop. Maybe I'll have
to throw a name out there, like could ruben Bain
Junior drop all of a sudden short arms, maybe a
question about the car accident, whatever it might be. Is
he is he a guy that drops? Or what's a
wildcard that you can see happening tomorrow?

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Well, there's been multiple mocks.

Speaker 8 (31:23):
Peter Schrager, my friend Ari Meyrov from the thirty thirteen
both have ruben Bain at twelve thirteen fourteen range. Yeah,
which was really surprising to me. I've just seen him
as you know, if the Chiefs have an opportunity to
get him at nine, I just figured that was a
slam dunk. But if he gets past ten, I'd be surprised.
But that's happening more and more as we get closer

(31:43):
to the draft. The other name to keep an eye
on that's pretty big right now is Jermad McCoy, the
cornerback from Tennessee.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
He's got some maybe long term knee injuries.

Speaker 8 (31:51):
He was thought of as a top fifteen player, missed
all of last year with an acl but even unrelated
to that could have the long term injury implications. I
think teams lay first or into the second have to
weigh that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Especially.

Speaker 8 (32:02):
You know, a team like the Jets that has four
picks in the top forty four would make a ton
of sense to try for that. You know, big swing
on Jamal McCoy, So keep an eye on him. And
then the other player that I just love who I'm
really interested in is Eli Stowers from Vanderbilt as a
tight end who really can't block, so has a big
bodied receiver type. I want to see how the league

(32:24):
values him because I think he could be a really
good second round player, But I don't really know where
the league's going to value that as far as his
inability to you know, line up in line as a
tight end. But he's he's a really good pass catcher.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Hello, Carlos Arroyo, Carlos Right, Elijah Elijah Eli. Yeah, Elijah Royal,
I should know that he plays here similar all right, exactly,
all right? What are you guys up to with with
the draft? Check the mic?

Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yep, check the mic.

Speaker 8 (32:53):
We're gonna be live on YouTube starting a half hour
before the draft.

Speaker 5 (32:56):
We'll be there for every first round pick.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
We'll be there on day two for every second and
a third round pick, then recapping everything right after. It'll
probably be about twenty five hours of content throughout this weekend,
so be sure to join us.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
You guys will be doing great as always. Man, thank
you so much. We'll talk to you. We'll put a
rap on our visits with a rap on the draft
next week.

Speaker 5 (33:12):
All right, sounds great, appreciate it. Happy draft Dve.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
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(34:41):
but noon to night and going on the air like
we I do like to think that we do a
hell of a job with our draft coverage, and if
nothing else, maybe we don't do a great job. But
we're on more than anybody, so we don't have other
things to worry about, no baseball, anything like that. So
we will be on until more than likely nine o'clock
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(35:02):
on what happens tomorrow. We always will wait for John
Schneider and Mike McDonald to come out after the rounds
are over and they do the post draft news conference,
and we'll carry those and react to that. Rob Wrang
will be with us. Hugh Millen will be with us
out there. I say with us, because once Softy signs
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(35:25):
for our draft coverage, of course, first round on Friday
on Thursday, second and third rounds coming up on Friday,
and then back with you at nine a m early
nine am on Saturday. And all I can tell you
is this, I am hoping, praying that they make some trades,
so we're not waiting until round six on Saturday, which

(35:47):
would be about the time Anders comes.

Speaker 5 (35:48):
On the air.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes around to Oli kid, let's go. Yes, you guys
are doing the wrap up show again right three to five.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
I'll be right after my marriage postcast, so I'll be
kind of rolling into vMac right around that time.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
So we'll be doing that. It'll be Rang and I
noon nine to noon on Saturday, and then Chuck Powell,
mister Draft miss himself will roll in there at noon
and then away we go. Be interesting to see we
have not again paid a lot of attention at least
on this show to the first round. I'm glad to
get Steve on a moment ago to kind of get
his thoughts. Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants are the top

(36:23):
five picks Brown's commander, Saints, Chiefs and Giants again are
the next five. That's your top ten, Like we're talking
with him a moment ago with Steve, the question is
like who drops? When do they drop? What happens along
the way? The Rubin Bain things an interesting one. Still,
you don't want to pass on the guy that could

(36:44):
be an impact player. Are there concerns about the car accident?
Are the concerns about the short arm. I'm not sure.
I did think it was interesting when he talked about
the run on offensive tackles. That always is like, I
think corners could also. We've talked about that with Coselle.
We could have a corner run as well. Uh And
how does that affect Seattle? I don't know, man. I

(37:04):
think the only thing that's going to really affect Seattle
is finding that dance partner for thirty two. And Steve
says he thinks it might be a little easier than
some others to move that pick because they want to
move that pick. There ain't no doubt about it. They
need to move that they have. Now they have a
lot of picks. Next year, they can do some things
to try to get accumulate more picks. On Day three,

(37:24):
there's there's probably zero percent chances are going to end
up with just the one pick, the round six pick
on Saturday as well. I say that wishing it out loud,
because if Rob and I are there for three hours
and no picks, what the hell we talk about it?

Speaker 3 (37:37):
That makes something happen.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
React to day too, he and react to day too
for the whole Day three, you.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Know, yeah, we will well because and they will be
busy on day two. Right now, they have the two
picks on day two, and that's probably where you find
your running back. Yeap, that's probably where you find your cornerback.
Schneider said something interesting on Monday about he did. He said,
you don't draft in terms of need. You draft in
terms of roster need. You know, like everyone needs like

(38:06):
a great edge rusher or a great whatever, Right, but
what's your roster need? Well, their roster need is really simple.
It's their roster need. Top of the list, with I mean,
without a question, top of the list is a running
back in my opinion. Number two on that list is
probably a cornerback, and number three is an edge rusher.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
And that doesn't mean they're picking or running back with
their first.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
Pick, no, but those are your roster needs going into
going into training camp, going into mini camp, going alls.
Those are your roster needs. All right, we'll take a break.
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Speaker 1 (39:05):
They do lose a series. That's not good, ten to
fifteen on the season. It's also that's a typical Mariner start.
If I'm not mistaken along the way Andrews am I
correct in that regard.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
Honestly, probably a little bit worse than a typical Mariner start.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
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he does, like the beard. I like the beard. Yeah,
pick crowd on him?

Speaker 4 (39:28):
Okay, Ah?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
What else going on? NBA HL playoffs get you to night.
Too many games to talk about. Although I don't know
if you know this, The Utah Mammoth won their first
ever playoff game last night, first ever in so the
expansion teams in the in the playoffs before the expanish
the Expansion Utah Mammoth, yes, yes, in their second year
of existence. Where do they get all those good players?

(39:51):
It's weird. I don't know how they got those guys
in there for just two years. Why can't the krack
and do that? They should, They should try to do that,
get good players like that. You know, God, I am,
I am gonna I'm gonna blow my gas. I know
you are.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
That's why I did it.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
But it's like, seriously, like we what are we talking
about here? These gays, all their good players came from
Arizona with a couple of trade exceptions. By the way,
I did enjoy Brandon Tanna getting all of six minutes
of ice timeline. Yes, yeah, they're realizing that. Meanwhile, color
you have a Moto getting like double that. So all right,
we move on. Blazers did get a win last night

(40:24):
over San Antonio and the NBA playoffs. Wemby's hurt got
a concussion that might change that series. Yeah, Blazers are
kind of battling there. Wonder how fast I can get
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Speaker 6 (41:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I read the story this morning. Finally, I don't know
if you guys have read it for the app from
the Athletic on Tom on Tom Condon the new uh,
the owner of the U of the Blazers. Blazers went
last night one six one o three over the San
Antonio Spurs. Like San Antonio many, they messed that game up,

(42:04):
something fierce foul early get a chance instead they don't.
But that's beside the point Blazers win. But that's not
the talk. The talk in that game was on around
this series actually is one hundred percent new ownership there.
And it's a cautionary tale, I think for all of

(42:24):
us here. Sometimes you can hear like, hey, how much
does ownership matter?

Speaker 5 (42:30):
Right?

Speaker 1 (42:30):
How much does it matter with ownership? How much does
it matter for the fan? Well? I think it matters
a lot, not just if you have a guy that
may move a team, i e. Quainton Bennett, or we
have history here, not just with him but with Ken Barring.
It matters as well in terms of how an organization
is run. Because when Tom Dundan basically doesn't says I

(42:53):
don't care that people say I'm cheap, which he is,
that's great. It affects your front office and the quality
people in your front office. This it affects your game
night production, and it affects the on court performance because
when you want to lowball people. And the story is
that Tiago Splitter, who's his head coach, is intrim head coach.
He took over in really hard circumstances. You think about

(43:14):
what he did this year. He took over a couple
of games into the season when Chauncey Billups got indicted
by a federal grand.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
Jury for.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Gambling and money laundering and everything else, basically hanging out
with the mob in a gambling thing. And so Chauncey's out.
They make this guy the new the introim coach. They
kind of thinking, well, maybe we'll this mail this season
in they make the playoffs, they win their first playing game,
get the seventh seed. Of all things. Now they're taking

(43:43):
on a team in San Antonio. This is a two seed,
but their best player may be missing multiple games in Wemby.
But all this is going on, Splitter doesn't know if
he's going to be the coach next year. The players
are all pushing for him. Most of the media that
covers the team thinks that the guy should get the job.
He's kind of thought to be an up and coming coach.

(44:03):
When he got the job, he got a slight bump
in pay on the interrom level. He's making less than
a million dollars a year by NBA coaches standards. That's
about one fifth to one sixth of the average coach
in the league. Now, again, interroim guy, you wouldn't expect
him to make that kind of money, but you may
expect him to make I don't know more than more

(44:24):
than eight hundred grand. Tom Dundon is bad for business.
He's bad for the NBA. I bring that up for
this reason. The Seahawks are for sale. Please please, NFL
make sure we don't have a Tom Dundon or another
Ken bearing. I trust the NFL a little bit more

(44:45):
than I trust Adam Silver. But I'm telling you right now,
it's a concern. It is one hundred percent of concern
with this or with with ownership in in sports Dundon.
There's a big Now, I think this part of it's silly.
One of the big things that they're talking about and
kind of losing their mind about right now is whether

(45:08):
or not they're gonna have T shirts on on the
seats in the in the Modus Center on Friday. And
I think they're gonna do towels or actually they're gonna
do towels. Now. They're doing like like noise makers right
for the atmosphere. Fans are mad they're not getting a
T shirt. First of all, a one size all fits
T shirt does not one size fit all right, right,

(45:29):
It's I.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Think sleep shirt for some people and.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Or something that you can fit over one arm right right,
the size medium medium. You know the terrible towel, which
I'm pretty sure we did here with the cracking right
didn't they do towels in their playoff appearance? I still
have one too.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
I like the towels. I think it makes makes it
look cool. Uh they it makes it really look cool
and stuff like that. Wow, legends are here, Like I
do like that. But people are losing their mind. They're
fighting it reason to say this guy is cheap and
we don't want him here. The NFL when they do
figure out who's going to own the Seahawks moving ahead,
please do not go down that road. Because the one

(46:09):
thing about the Seahawks since Paul Allen bought the team
is since JODI's been running it, it has been one
hundred percent first class. Everything they do is first class.
It's the same thing out here. I I kind of
I bristled, not bristol. I laughed a little bit when
Todd you say, a couple weeks ago or the press
conference last week, he was like, oh, you know, I'm
gonna make sure that players are treated right. You talk

(46:32):
to players here, they are treated right and then some
even some things behind the scenes, so I we'll get
into with families that were ill or players that had
to go home or what have you. It's all taken
care of. Dundin doesn't want to have the three guys
at the end of the bench that are on two
way contracts. Caleb loves one of them, who's a former

(46:55):
Arizona star if you remember him from the G League team.
But theyve got three guys that are on two way contracts.
Doesn't even have those guys traveling to practice with the
team to save money, just like this is the NBA.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
Man.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
I've worked in minor league sports a lot. I can't
even fathom that happening at that level. So it's a
cautionary tale. Guys like it's a cautionary tale, And I think,
you know, we want to rip on and say negative things,
and sometimes rightfully so about John Stanton the Mariner's ownership.
They're not that bad.

Speaker 4 (47:26):
No, they're not not.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Compared to the like this guy sits the bar and
people will bring up the Carolina Hurricanes, the great success
they've had on the ice. They've got a brilliant general
manager and they've got a great coach. Really good coach
that makes up for all the flaws off the ice,
that makes up for the cheap tightening up of things
off the ice. The Blazers think about this, They didn't

(47:50):
even send their digital reporter for their dot com site
and their photographer in today's world, like.

Speaker 4 (47:58):
Like that's insane, brook Coles.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
Why would you buy a team?

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Brooke Oles? And they're doing local TV by the way,
first round? Right, ye are they They're not? Are they not?
I think the NBA is not right. The NBA got
out of that business.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
But I know they have national broadcasts for the first round,
but I don't know.

Speaker 1 (48:14):
If they're not even traveling. You know, their reporter in
brook Olsen, which is like our version of Piper Show, right,
like what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
You know? I I it's a great article. Jason Quick
wrote it in the Athletic. I would urge people to
read it. Anytime you say I really care about ownership.
Ownership doesn't matter, read that, do me a favor. Read
that article matter.

Speaker 4 (48:34):
And take away all the take away all the cheap
stuff for just the cost cutting measures, which is gross anyway,
like the whole what the way he's going about the
the head coaching stuff with Tiago Splitter, a guy who's
in the midst of their first playoff appearance in what
five years?

Speaker 1 (48:48):
Six years? Five years?

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Yeah, and you're undermining him by having all this stuff
come out about how you're looking for his replacement while
you're literally in the playoffs trying to compete and doing.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Having to answer questions about that, I know. And then
the story comes out he's talked to all these other coaches.
He's low balled all these guys. Yeah, Michael Malone. Michael
Malone who's got fired by it, was doing TV but
obviously got fired by the Nuggets, who also won a
title with the Nuggets now at North Carolina. He offered
him four million less than North Carolina paid him. What

(49:20):
the coach of the NBA. I think about that, Yeah,
that's it's It's bad. The other part of it that
comes into play for me. Honestly, he's got no ties
and no loyalty of that city. And there is a
really distinct Clayton Bennett Field of this.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
Oh god, yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Very like a very it smells.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Now. They do have one local investor, but he's not
the majority owner. He's a minority owner. It has a
very smelly Clayton Bennett Field to it.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
It's like a Major League script and.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
You know what. We all know how that turned out?
Not well. Jess, do you have a cash on?

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Speaker 1 (51:31):
All right, welcome back in Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ RFM. We are on Draft E for the
NFL Draft. We're checks date, what about two weeks away
from the NHL Draft lottery, NHL Draft weekend last weekend
in June. Lots of draft talk, lots of off season
talk for a lot of teams in town. Enjoining me

(51:52):
right now, Jason Bottroll, the GM Executive Vice president GM.
I think that's the title now, right of the Seattle Kraken.
He's the guy in charge, and he's enough to sit
down with us here at the thirty two Bar and
Grill Cracking Community ice Plex. Had his news conference this morning,
and I said, you know what, We're the crack and
flagship station. Damn it. We're gonna have them on one
on one afterwards and just give them the real hard
hitting questions. But they'll follow up on a lot of

(52:12):
stuff we had today. How are I man?

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Very good?

Speaker 11 (52:14):
Thank you, Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
I appreciate you coming on. We you and I have
done this a couple of times here we did. We
did a couple of season ticket things this year.

Speaker 7 (52:21):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
This is an ongoing process in terms of putting this
hockey team together, and we're gonna get to that in
a second. Let's take a step back. For folks that
maybe didn't hear it live this morning, and cracking fans
didn't hear it, let's just get your thirty thousand foot view,
although you're far from that, but just your overall view
of this past season.

Speaker 7 (52:37):
Past season. Let's let's go with us start.

Speaker 11 (52:40):
You know, we brought in, we made a lot of
changes both on the ice and off the ice. New
coaches brought in, some new players, wanted to work with
some of our younger players, such as the Berkmancatton. You know,
I was happy at where our group was going. If
you said at the Olympic break, I really happy how
we performed in January. I think we had seventeen games

(53:01):
in the month of January, really tough stretch. I want
to say we went ten to five and two. Proud
of you know, how we handled it there, Proud of
the adversity that we'd already gone through in the season.
It wasn't just all smooth sailing. We obviously we had
some injuries at the start of December, went through a
one to nine and one stretch. And the fact that
we had that one nine to one stretch and then
turned that right into I think it was an eight

(53:21):
oho to two stretch to me shows you know, leadership
showed you know, drive from the group type of thing
for sure, and put it on the right track. And uh,
you know, we got to the Olympic break. You know,
I liked how we played it in January. I think
we won something, you know, our last four or five
home games, uh there, and then went in you know,
went into Vegas, Anaheim, LA won two out of three.

(53:44):
So it was feeling good about being in a playoff
spot at the Olympic break, in a playoff spot the
trade deadline. At the end of the day, we didn't
get it done.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (53:53):
It was.

Speaker 11 (53:54):
It was a frustrating month of March and April. Not
finding enough wins to find a way to get into
the playoffs, you know, is disappointing that, you know, we
had some key wins against Carolina, Vegas, Tampa Bay, but
playing against some of the teams that we were really
battling for a position, whether it was Nashville, Utah, Saint Louis,

(54:15):
those games really hurt us from that standpoint. So overall,
the way we look at it, there's frustration, there's disappointment
because in our eyes, it's a missed opportunity just the
way our division set up this year, it was a
missed opportunity for capitalizing on getting in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Bots was this So along those lines, I look, you
know in the month by month was a fascinating study, right,
You're looking what this team did five two and three
out of the gate, ten five and five to start
the season, really rough December at times, and then you
mentioned it January ten five and two and strong heading
into the Olympic break, solving in third place in the

(54:51):
Pacific and then just seven wins after the Olympic break. Yep.
So with that as context, did this team overachieve in
month it's like January? Or did they were they kind
of over there? Did they just underachieve at the end?
Like what who were who were the krakend this year?

Speaker 11 (55:08):
Well, probably a little bit of both in that regards
for sure, right Like you look at some of our
numbers and stuff, like we had outstanding goaltending in January,
we had exceptional power play in January, and that sort
of helped us carry along. I think at the start
of the year we were a little bit more balanced,
doing a better job at five on five.

Speaker 5 (55:27):
You know.

Speaker 11 (55:27):
And I think it's just it's the situation of you know,
you've heard it from some other teams in the league too,
just how much things ramp up heading into the playoffs.
And I think there was a clear you know, in
most years, you just don't know when does the really
the big playoff push start. Well, it was very clear
this year because of Olympic break as soon as that
Olympic grant that the playoff push was going on. And

(55:47):
it's something that we have.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
To review moving forward here.

Speaker 11 (55:50):
We felt we did things the right way coming out
of the Olympic break, but clearly, you know, our record
after that wasn't good enough. It's something that we will
have to dig into a little bit more on just
what we did from a practice standpoint, what did our
players do during that break just to put them in
a better opportunity for success moving forward.

Speaker 1 (56:06):
I was I was a little surprised a couple times
when I heard Lane mention things like, yeah, guys are
trying to get used to what you just said. Like
after the Olympic break, it was like everyone's full throttle,
and you gave this team an opportunity. You went out
and picked up a thirty goal scorer Bobby McMahon and
did all that. But he said, you know, we're not

(56:27):
matching the intensity level on paraphrasing or some of the
other teams. You just kind of alluded to that as well.
I'm thinking, yeah, well, there's a team here that's got
a bunch of guys that were on that playoff team
and have playoff experience. I mean, your core guys have
been there. Was that all on the young guys because
Jared McCann almost kind of insinuated that in his press conference,
So I was kind of trying to figure that one out.

Speaker 11 (56:45):
No, what I would say too is, look, we did
have run into some injuries with Schwartz and mccannn not
being in our lineup, and that really hurt us and stuff.
For sure. We've talked about it all year, Right, how
do we win? We win with our depth, you know,
there's some teams in the league with star power. They
have an injury or two in their second line or
third line, it doesn't even impact them that much because
of their star power. I think throughout our season this year,

(57:08):
you notice whenever a couple players were out because we
had to utilize on our depth so much. From that standpoint,
we have some veteran players. I think it's a learning
experience for our younger players to be a part of it.
You know, what I would say is there's a challenge
to our veteran players because a lot of our veteran
players are on say the power playing stuff too. In
the power play which was clicking so well at top

(57:29):
ten pretty much in the league until Limprigage went quiet.
That's something that we have to improve on for March
and April. I think with their young players, there's a
reason why these young players are in the NHL at
such a young age. They are driven, like there's an
edge to them. They are wanting to be in the
National Hoccha League. You know Berkeley cat And may have
a big smile on his face most time, but he's
a driven young man and stuff. These players such as

(57:51):
you know Jacob Malants and Ryan Wintern and have played
ahl playoff games. They know they're ready to play in
the National Hockeleague. Now, you know, you can always say, oh,
let's just play the young kids. It takes time for them.
And then this year was the first year where we
felt those two players especially were ready to play at
the national league. They get here, but it's always in
a unique situation, and that was at least a positive

(58:11):
on the team is that we were in the playoff
hot hunt to about the week to go in the season.
They were playing important games, finding out how strong the
one to one battle while a battle it is, how
difficult is get to the front at how you know,
in so many of these games against say Saint Louis
or Nashville, it wasn't a big difference, but it's just
that one goal that won play. And I think that

(58:33):
experience is so valuable for our young younger players and understanding, hey,
how much stronger they have to get in the offseason
and just what the intensity has to be every game,
because I do think, you know, I always referenced the
game in Tampa Bay. You know, that was a game
where they were very physical against us at the end
of March there. We got the lead early. They wanted
to push it to get the victory. They were battling

(58:55):
for playoff position at the time, and we stood up
to it and we pushed back and we handled it
very well, and that was it was a proud game.
But that's what we have to do over a course
of eighty.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Two games, and that's the challenge. Yeah, that's that was
the mind boggling part at times. And I'm sure for
you the frustrating part is you'd see, I mean, the
Carolina home game was an incredible hockey game.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
That team came in here, they had the best record
in the Eastern Conference. They are rolling, They play a hard,
heavy game. You guys matched it and then someone got
that win Tampa, Florida. Obviously Florida was down this season,
but going down, there's no joke the Buffalo that that
little trip was. You get some points out of those
final three games and you're thinking, Okay, they've they've turned
the corner. But you mentioned it. Injuries are one thing. Special.

(59:34):
Teams faulting, you know, kind of falling apart did another thing.
Let me take one other step back before we look
ahead of the future. And what's gonna happen in this offseason? Jason,
And that would be this, Uh, when you were hired
last year or not hire? Promoted from within and you've
been here since day one, but you were pumped up
and Ron was also bumped up as well. Remember you
and I sat here and talked about it, and and
Todd told us like, hey, this is your team. Then

(59:56):
Ron leaves and there's like the mixed message. How did
it work this year in terms so who had the
final say, who would making the player moves, who were
doing who was doing everything? Yeah, and then how does
that change this offseason? Or does it? It really doesn't
look at the day. I utilize Ron as a resource
all the time. You know, he's a mentor of mine. Uh,
He's the reason I'm at in the organization. He's the

(01:00:16):
reason why our entire Hockey Ups organization is here.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
For sure.

Speaker 11 (01:00:21):
Ron also was a former GM, and he made it
clear at the press conference last year and and and
just our discussion. You know, you can't be a general
manager without having that final say in his mind, and
that's how you have to have success. And look, I
utilize him as a resource for sure in our organization
We have a lot of collaboration, whether it's it's with ownership,
whether it's with our you know, our scouts, with our

(01:00:43):
with our staff. There's always collaboration from that standpoint, But
as a general manager, I have to make the final
decision on that, and that's certainly what what materialized moving
forward here. You know, it's certainly it's emotional and it's
tough not having run around every day, just being blunt
with you from that standpoint, but I'm also I trust
our staff. I trust that we have some people with

(01:01:05):
some great ideas that can handle more of a role.
Last year we brought in Ryan Jankowski to help from
player development standpoint and amateur scouting, and his sort of
new ideas and fresh ideas I think have been very
helpful not only in those departments, but hey, when we're
starting starting to talk about players that he has a
rolodex on, you know, these players from other organizations and

(01:01:26):
stuff that he's seen over the years. Over the next
couple of months here will continue to look at different
people to possibly bring into our organization to make it stronger,
to make sure that we have the right people in
place to make the right decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Next year, the Yeah, that's an interesting dynamic too because
there have been very few changes in the hockey ops department.
I mean, Tampa goes to Tampa, you bring Ryan in,
But I mean really, for the most part, it's kind
of been intact along the way, and you're building this
thing up. What do you hear from ownership? What's Because
we heard Todd today in the disk conference, and I
mean if I if I when I listen toddlight Wiki,
I hear a guy that is he's been in pro

(01:01:59):
sports for wherever he wants to win. I think he
probably is parroting what Sam and the ownership group think
is Well, what's there, what's their message to you? What
is their directive to you in terms of getting this
thing back into the postseason, whether it's next year or
is it five years down the road.

Speaker 7 (01:02:14):
Yeah, it's it's built.

Speaker 11 (01:02:16):
Let's let's keep building, right Like a big part of development,
big part of it is winning. So keep working on.
From that standpoint, we understand that there needs to be changes,
there needs to be additions to this group, but we
also are very excited about where this group's going, and
we have to make some adjustments and different things. We
have younger players coming up who are going to be
ready to hind If we can find some more players,

(01:02:36):
especially at the Ford group, that have sort of a
history of scoring in this league, I think that will
help out a lot from that standpoint. But no, we
feel that there's a lot of things in place, correct,
so we want to build off of that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Do they put pressure on you to win right away?
I mean, and I say that not in a negative way,
but I mean, is there pressure that, hey, this thing
has to get back into the postseason?

Speaker 11 (01:02:57):
Asa they don't look the conversations and like it's not like, hey,
you have to be in the playoffs next year. You
want growth, you want it's what we all want to be.
Who doesn't want to be You've watched NHL Hockey last
couple of nights, Like, who doesn't want to be a
part of that environment right now?

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
Stuff? Right?

Speaker 11 (01:03:13):
You know you're jis you go through you know, the
player exit meetings last week. That's part of the reason
why there's such a depression and disappointment is because like,
you want to be a part of that energy, that excitement,
and to put bluntly, like our coaches and our players
the hours that they put in during the year you
can say, which is that like, yes, we're disappointing it,
but like they want to that's ultimately as the Stanley Cup.

(01:03:36):
But a big part of it is to be in
part of those environments where you have a billing just
packed and there's an energy and intensity that's just through
the roof. So yes, that's where we want to get
back to. It's you know, we want to make sure
that we continue to build it the right way for
success of getting into the playoffs and then eventually after
years experience, to really push through to be a national

(01:03:57):
you know, to be a Stanley Cup champion and stuff
that's going to take time. From that bit, they understand
that bit. So it's always that balance of hey, how
do we help the group right now while continue to build.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
I always Jason Bondervill joining us. I've and not just
because you're sitting across from me. This is one of
those things in sports media that drives me nuts. I
hear rebuild all the time. Are you rebuilding a retooling,
you're reimagining or whatever, And there's people say the krack
and need to tear it down and rebuild it back up,
and I counter with, well, like define what that is yep.

(01:04:29):
So I'll ask you what is this organization in. Is
it a rebuild you need to rebuild? Is there such
a thing as a rebuild? Is it a retool? Is
a reimagination? What is where is this franchise right now?

Speaker 11 (01:04:39):
I'll go back to what I said before. We're building.
We're building it right. And look to me, it's not
always just going to all young players. There's two different
things here. If you go all young players, a lot
of times they're not ready for it, you know, and
it's why we.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
May take a step back at that point.

Speaker 11 (01:04:54):
If you put it, put them in too many different roles,
and it's a losing environment NonStop. That doesn't is not
successful either, you know. It's Hey, we saw it with
Brooken Katton this year. You want to make sure he's
in roles that he can have some success, but at times,
you know, you have to be patient with him from
that standpoint. Look at the two players that we brought
up we mentioned earlier, Ryan Winterton Jacob Malonson. I thought
both those players helped our group out a lot. Jacob

(01:05:17):
brought a physicality our group that was great. You know,
Ryan brought us speed and four check ability that was
really good. Whenever he wasn't in the lineup, I think
we really missed his speed. From that standpoint, as much
as you want to say, like they weren't ready until
this year to help our team at the National Hockeygue level.
So that's why you know they were part of our
first draft in twenty one, I believe it was so. Yes,

(01:05:38):
as much as coming out of that draft, you know,
I think we have five players from that draft who
played in the National hoche League. Four of them are
now almost regular in the National Hockey League. Yeah, Matty
Beniers is there in year one right away, but most
of them take this long to get there. From that standpoint,
you know, we're excited about the twenty two draft. You know,
you have players such as Yanny Newman, Furkus, Coco jug

(01:05:59):
Nath Nelson, these players, they're not all of them are
ready for the National Hockeleague this year, but next year
and the year afterwards, they're gonna be ready for the
National Hockey League and add more to our competition and
drive From that bit. So to me, it's constantly adding
these young players to the mix, but it's also constantly
adding veteran players that we know can help.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
This group moving forward.

Speaker 11 (01:06:17):
Getting Jordan Eberley signed at the trade downline was huge
just because one he's he's a great leader for our
group and two he contributes on the ice and take
some of the pressure off some of.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
Our younger players.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
So the foundation's in place, okay. So if they built
from there, built from within, and away you go, does
this team need to be heavier, a little tougher, and
I say even bigger. Like I just talking to Lane
on Friday, and I just kind of got the impression
that he'd like to see like the game is changed,
it's evolved, yep. I mean I always joke and I
worked in the WHL back in the wild West days

(01:06:50):
and it was a different game in the in the
nineties and early two things. But there's still an element
out there. Hell we saw at Montreal and Tampa last night, yep,
is that one of the things you need to do
in the off season. Get a little bit.

Speaker 11 (01:06:59):
Bigger, heavy, you know, you know, we want to always
want bigger, heavier, more skilled players, right, you always want
the perfect well rounded things. And that had of Conor McDavid.
While you're out of it exactly, you know, keep keep
them going for that staff. But so there's always that balance, right,
Like I do think, like you know, for us to
be successful, we have to continue to improve our speed.
That's it's when you don't have that elite player on

(01:07:22):
your team. To me, when we're successful, we're utilizing our
depth and we're having the waves and we're really pressuring
play you know, an opposition all over the ice. That's
the key element for us to have success. So speed
continues to be something that we have to right It's
to me, it's our challenge to our strength staff is
younger players just trying to get them physically stronger. You know,
there's there's so much growth with all these players that

(01:07:44):
we just talked about Malanson Winter to Moule Guard, you
know obviously Berkeley, Shane Wright, Maddy Benier's like they're all
twenty three and Understill they're still physically growing. And to me,
it's it's continuing in the summer, having strong summers where
they can add more weight, they can add more strength
to handle those those those games. Because you know, to

(01:08:07):
Lane's point and to what you see with your own eyes,
there is a difference in the National League in October
versus April and you know that's what I think. You know,
it's great that our players were at least a part
of some of those big games in March and April
to see where where the league goes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
Can you win in this league without a high end
offensive player? And I'll just I mean, everly was your
leading score yep, goals and points taking McMahon out of it,
sixty fifth in goals, I think it was or one
hundred and twentieth in points, And those are rough numbers.
Can you win with with those types of numbers? If
I know they did three years ago? Yep?

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
But can you still do that? Do you need a
high end guy?

Speaker 11 (01:08:44):
Look, high end guys certainly help things a little bit.
They hid a lot of problems and a lot of
mistakes and stuff for sure. It's why we'll continue to
look for that type of player if available, right, But
in the meantime we'll continue to develop. We truly believe.
I believe that when you have strong depth and more
throughout your entire lineup, that's what you can help. But

(01:09:05):
I think where this year when we played very well,
it was because our power play was going. If you're
not going to have that elite player, having a power
play that can help you and sort of put you
give you that your team, that extra boost that really
helped us in the first part of the season is
something that we're gonna have to continue to work on,
to continue to develop.

Speaker 1 (01:09:20):
What kind of step can a guy, what can we
expect to see from say a Berkeley Cat next year.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
Well, I think this guy's the limit for Berkeley just
because he hit his hockey sense, his knowledge. He takes
so much out of every situation, learns from it. You know,
he's a dedicated player off the ice from that standpoint too,
on getting strong or getting faster, and you know, it's
something that we touched on there. Like you know players,
he has speed now showing that speed every day, you know,

(01:09:47):
on every shift. That's where the next thing is is
to oh, it's a coff thing. I just understand the game.
You know, these kids come from junior where they're playing
you know sometimes twenty five to thirty minutes a night.
They're almost pacing themselves a little bit outside, you know,
or on the game type of thing. You come to
the Nation Hockey League and your mints drop from twenty
five down to say twelve or thirteen. Hey, you realize like, hey,

(01:10:10):
the game is just that much faster. And I think
it's just utilizing, you know, knowing when to utilize your speed,
when to continue to attack. And those are the big
things that we're gonna work with him on an offseason.
And to me, that's where we think there's we know
the hockey senses there, we know that the skill is there.
It's now just put him in the right positions there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
I think it goes without saying I'd be a fool
to say that Bobby McMahon wouldn't be a high priority
for the off season. He's gonna have a market. We
all know that. Having a conversation with him sitting in
that same chair last week, he sounded really plausitive about Seattle.
I think he's on a golf trip with a bunch
of guys right now. I think Cale Flurry, I think
is in charge of recruitment right now, giving him some

(01:10:46):
strokes or however it's gonna work out. But is there
a chance you could get him done if he does
want to stay before the draft or before the free agency?
Do you think that's going to go all the way
into July.

Speaker 11 (01:10:56):
Look, it's something in there. We've stayed in touch with
his agent and the communication it's and from our standpoint
was a great fit. I think from Bobby's standpoint was
a great fit to Just the fact that he's sticking
around a little bit longer, I think is a good
sign for from that bit. Look, he's worked hard to
he's got he's a player that's gone from the EHL
to the HL to the AHL. It's a great story
behind the scenes with us. It was great to see

(01:11:17):
just his professionalism, how he's always working on his craft too,
and just get to know him a little bit more.
I think he think the fact that he had a
relationship with Lane from Toronto last year was very helpful
in making the mix. The connection over here got to
play a little bit more than and had a bigger
role here than in Toronto and stuff too, So I
felt it went very well. Just his interaction with our organization,

(01:11:38):
interaction with the city, the fact that he's staying around
a little bit longer too, just to see the environment
is a good sign. And you know, this is where
we'll have to push things with this agent for sure.
At the end of day, you know he's gonna have options.
This is a unique environment for him from that standpoint,
But no, we were we were glad to get him
at the trade deadline, and uh no, we'ld certainly do
that over again for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Uh And Boss, before I let you go, I just
kind of look at the the overall off season. There's
gonna be changes. It's that's just the way the NHL works. Yep,
what's the easiest that's the wrong word. What's the best
way to do it? And you kind of alluded to
this in the news conference, But I mean it's like, hey,
go out and everyone's got salary cap room right attracting
free agents and you can address it if it's a
challenge here or not. You talked to Stevenson and Monty

(01:12:21):
and guys like that, Ebbs are stuck around. It feels
like if you get people here, you're good. It's just
like trying to convince them that's not somewhere out in
Alaska or something like that. And but but what's the
what's the best way to try to build that? And
add to what you just said earlier, Yep, there's a foundation.
How do you add to that?

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
So from a free agent market, we'll certainly be engaged
with them, but you just look at it right like,
it's not a It's not a monster year this year
because of the extra cap space and the cap continue
to go up, most teams have r av signed their players.
So are we going to be engaged? Are we going
to be looking at that? Yes, but it can't be
your only model in improving your team. I think the
bigger area is continuing to find creative ways of developing

(01:12:58):
our own players. That's what we're on too. And hey,
it's the trade market. I think that's the way to
go it. Looking at different teams that hey, are in
similar boat, USTs that maybe just missed the playoffs or
wanted to make adjustments to their group. That's what you
have to focus in on and stuff a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:13:13):
So the word aggressive off season has been used a lot.
So aggressive probably means whether it's and you said earlier, yeah, no,
I mean this is you're open for business, right like,
like you know or would you be open to trading
a young guys? I think you said yes, a ton
of draft picks as equity and that's probably a really
good place to be, right. So to find aggressive off season.

Speaker 11 (01:13:35):
Hey, it's our team has to take a step next year, right,
we have to continue to go from there. We're going
to make changes from that bit and we're going to
be involved in Look, trade discussions are always interesting. Sometimes
it happens right away, sometimes it takes time. And I
can't sit here and say that it's going to happen
on you know, June fifteenth or June twenty fifth or
July fifteenth, but I can just assure you that, you know,

(01:13:55):
throughout the summer, throughout the fall, we're going to be
aggressive and trying to add to our group here and
stuff from that standpoint, because we have pieces that we're
very proud about. We're excited about some of these pieces,
how much they want to be here in Seattle and
their growth. Now it's imperative that we find some pieces
to support them, to help them and take the nextcept
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
And I know that there's discussions taking place with assistant coaches,
So that's still up in the air right with it
with Lane's staff, But Lane is back. Correct.

Speaker 11 (01:14:19):
Yes, I've enjoyed working with Lane. It's as I said
in my press conference, he came as advertised, was very
direct with our players, brought the intensity, brought accountability, brought
structure to our group, which I like to see and hey, look,
I enjoyed having that partnership with him. Over the next
couple of weeks here, his staff our players will continue
to those that dialogue, then roll into pro scouting medians

(01:14:42):
and amateur scouted meetings, and then obviously the combine at
the sort of end of May.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Starters June decent chance, I'll leave you alone and tell
a lot of June. All right, sounds good, Thanks Spots,
I appreciate you.

Speaker 11 (01:14:53):
Have a great day.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
All right, hang out thirty two Bar and Grill Cracking
Community ice boys today you infness with you cruising along.
The captain is here, Mike Benton, Bobby McMahon coming up.
In about fifteen minutes or so, we'll hear from the
free agent to b is he coming back to Seattle
is he thinking about coming back to Seattle? Is Seattle
even a consideration for him? We'll find that out. We

(01:15:42):
heard just now from Jason Bottrel and if you miss
the interview, we'll have a podcast. We'll probably throw some
stuff up on social media as well. Anderson Hurst had
a question I did fire away. Yeah, I want to
know because we got Mike Benton with you.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
So the captain is here?

Speaker 7 (01:15:56):
Can I have us here? The mayor's here, Andrews is here.

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
I don't have a name, so that's fine, Lord Duke
of Hurst. I like that, Lord Duke of Hurst. All right,
all right for both of you guys. What does this
successful off season look like for the Seattle Crack.

Speaker 12 (01:16:11):
Mikey, I'll go first, extend Bobby McMahon. Find a top
line guy. Be prepared to say goodbye to some individuals who.

Speaker 7 (01:16:24):
Have been here from the beginning. Change is coming, culture thing.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Okay, So so all right, so let me just read
this correctly, So McMahon get him back. Yes, add another
top six guy, Yes, top, top top three, top three,
top And if I'm reading this correctly, you're saying, move
some guys that have been here for a while to

(01:16:48):
change the climate and the culture of the lock.

Speaker 12 (01:16:51):
Let's raid the tea leaves here. Todd light Wiki about
a week and a half ago, said most players have
been proud to put on this jersey from this dressing room.
Jason Bottral today said change is coming. Lane Lambert said
this room was way too quiet. I'd be seeing some
change there.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Yeah, okay for me successful offseason, I'll start with what
Mikey said. I think Bobby McMahon is a must. I
just do. I think they got it. You you made
a trade that looks eerily similar to Leonard Williams, Ernest Jones,
Rashid Shaheat. You gave up draft capital for short term.

(01:17:28):
I'm assuming with the assumption that you're gonna sign said
player long term, which is what the actually with all
three of those guys.

Speaker 11 (01:17:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:17:34):
And it wasn't and it wasn't easy. Like remember, I
mean they didn't think they're get rehid. I mean there's
a lot of talk about, oh, she he's not going
to come back, and you know, people were like people
were down on Leonard Williams.

Speaker 7 (01:17:43):
And then back back up the breaks truck.

Speaker 1 (01:17:45):
People were down on Leonard Williams on our station. People
were down on.

Speaker 11 (01:17:48):
That first year.

Speaker 5 (01:17:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
I was like, ah, I want to give up too much?

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
You know, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Do you just watched the Super Bowl? Okay, so but
that's I think that's number one. McMahon fallows into that
same seahawk category of that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
And I think number uber two has to be that
you make an impact edition. I don't necessarily say top
three or I think top six guy, but make an
impact addition, a guy that can finish, not from Finland,
but can finish. So we're kind of on the same
page because I think and I think you're going to
have to do that via trade. A successful off season

(01:18:21):
to me is using some of your draft capital. All
these draft picks you have, move them and get a player,
get a warm body that can help you right away. Today.
Here's the thing. They didn't miss the playoffs by much.
They just didn't. And I think the one thing you'll
see in the NHL playoffs that we have seen in
the NHL playoffs. Yes, are you a Stanley Cup contender?

(01:18:43):
Are you thought to be a Stanley Cup contender? Yes?
And no. Right, but the way Stanley Cup playoffs work,
we've seen this already. Upsets happen, hot goaltending can carry you.
The pressure of being that team can get to some teams,
right and I just get into the dance, And I

(01:19:03):
thought Bot said it, Well, if not, you want to
be a part of it, that's your goal. It's almost
like March madness, like just getting in is the first goal.
Once you're in, who knows what can happen. I think
it's also imperative that and I asked him this, Mikey,
I think it's imperative that you get those playoff games
in that atmosphere because you keep talking about the young guys.

(01:19:27):
Those guys haven't been a part of it. The Calder
Cup playoffs in the AHL are not close to that.
If you play high level college hockey Final four or
something like that Rosen four, that's close. That has pressure.
I would tell you the WHL playoffs, guys that have
played in those championship series, you've been a part of that.
You've seen that. Yeah, but it's not the NHL. So
I think it's important to get those guys there. My

(01:19:48):
frustration would be when they fall fall apart in the
second half or the last part of the season. They
had a bunch of guys, a core group of guys
that had been there and nobody handled it well.

Speaker 12 (01:19:59):
See, and that's a as a culture thing because it's
not just how quiet was the room. But something that
stood out to me from Lane Lambert was we gave
the guy as a blueprint. We gave the guy as
a plan before in one of their break games in March,
and they just went up and did their own thing. Yep,
you're needing to find a change in culture with guys

(01:20:19):
who are going to be a line now with the
current coach. To me, Brandon Montour is a Lane Lambert guy.
Madd even hears it seems as if he is a
Laine Lambert guy. Is you've got to find more Lane
lambertin mc mahon's also one too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Yeah. I like, I'll just say it right now. I
think that you need to say goodbye to Schwartz and
Alexiak period undrapted or unrestricted free agents. I think you
just have to. I think that's where it starts. What
did it say that twenty four was scratch last game
of the season and I don't buy seventeen was hurt.
So I think that I think that that's what you start.
I just that's how I mean that's just that's that's

(01:20:54):
how strong I feel. And do we answer the question, Yeah,
he did.

Speaker 4 (01:20:57):
Absolutely, It's a lot of the same lines as mine.
I would say, Number one, if you are going to
go the route of you think you can compete next year,
Bobby McMahon's the way to go. Number two, I still
think the most important thing for this franchise is finding
a way to note not necessarily get one of those
top line guys, because I don't think they're that easy

(01:21:17):
to find. It's either a luck into the one of
the top four picks in the draft, or b find
a way to develop, whether it's Matt e Beneer's Berkeley
Catten into one of those guys, because that's the most
likely route forward that this team is going to take
that next step. As someone that's already.

Speaker 12 (01:21:33):
Here, do I have time to lob one question out
here very quick? If there is a top line guy available,
a guy that can get you eighty ninety points, is
any prospect untouchable?

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:21:46):
No, no, no, I agree, yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 9 (01:21:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:21:49):
We had this conversation as zillion times with the Mariners,
like it's listen, Jcobrien's really intriguing, really exciting, but he's
seventeen and he needs to put about forty pounds on.

Speaker 12 (01:22:00):
This is how you use bring in the big trade pieces.
Now you've got to have something. Look at what we
got for Quinn.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
Hughes and and O'Brien's would net you something? Yeah for
sure the year he had, Yeah, totally net you something.
So yes, I think the guy. If you're talking about
who's off limits, I think it's for I think Berkeley
is for anybody. Yeah, well, I mean anybody's big, but
it's a yeah. I think if we're just being let's

(01:22:28):
be realistic. Yeah, they're not gonna get them. Yeah, if
you're being realistic, Berkeley the coord probably Maddie, but not necessarily.
Uh not for me. I right, but I said I
said probably, but not. I don't think he's one hundred
percent right, Uh you know, I think, but I think
those are that that kind of ends right there. I
think you could listen if you want to have the

(01:22:50):
hard conversation, you can move Vince Dunn for a lot. Yeah,
you got replicated with sixty two. So all right, we
got to take break. Mikey. What you got coming up?
You got you've got podcasts coming crack.

Speaker 7 (01:22:58):
In weekly two nights.

Speaker 12 (01:22:59):
We are gonna have a lot to break down here
from the Jason bottlerel Press or else of got Jordan
Ebery one on one Compo Cocko one on one, by
the way, leading score for the cracking out of the
Olympic break.

Speaker 7 (01:23:10):
Yeah, conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
They just need to find a way every year to
have a break So Coppo come back if it did
not have enough.

Speaker 12 (01:23:15):
Time here to get this all within like one hour,
so have a length of your podcast version also up
once the show is all done after this evening.

Speaker 1 (01:23:20):
All right, Bobby McMahon will join us. Coming up next.

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Say his name, Liam Rossen. You are after less than
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like the fire coaches at Chelsea. Right, Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 4 (01:24:41):
That's their second coach fired in the last four months.

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Who couldn't use a thousand American dollars?

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
As long as it's not Canadian dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
I'm good. What's the Canadian dollar worth these days? We
know that's a good point. The loon the looney, well
they you know what they have the coins, aren't they?

Speaker 4 (01:25:56):
Yeah, the the loonies and the townies.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
Hang on the second. Oh that said, but they got
rid of those like a dollars.

Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
Hang on, hang on one seven that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:26:06):
So it's sixty three cents? Correct? Yeah, sixty three cents
is the Canadian dollar right now?

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Nice math on the fly there.

Speaker 1 (01:26:15):
Well, listen, I'm known for my math. I really am.
Of all the things, I'm known for math at the topless.
Somebody who went to ODA with me right now is
laughing driving around going yeah, like my buddy bags or something.

Speaker 4 (01:26:27):
Like really, yeah, no, no, I.

Speaker 1 (01:26:31):
Did take I did take four years of math in
high school.

Speaker 5 (01:26:33):
Though.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
You know why I got it out of the way
for heist for college? Yeah, because I got that out
of the wave.

Speaker 4 (01:26:38):
It was I took take calculus in high school.

Speaker 1 (01:26:40):
Uh No, I didn't have to do that. I took
college algebra though, nice my senior year, which I'm not
sure why outside of the fact that I didn't have
to take it in college. But it was damn hard.
The late mister Fortune was our teacher. He used to
kick you out of class for farting. Oh what do
you got on that notes? Yeah, good story coming.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (01:27:01):
It's better be good.

Speaker 4 (01:27:02):
It's better be good, not super I mean, I think
this is breaking news worthy. The Alabama Crimson ti and
have extended head coach Kaitlin de Boor to a new seven.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
Year, twelve and a half million dollar aa V deal. Okay,
how much twelve and a half million dollar? Like per
year twelve and a half million year, So what is
that time? Seven?

Speaker 4 (01:27:20):
All right, matthean twelve and a half times seven.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
That would be fifty sixty one sixty. I don't know
if someone so the calculator, I have no idea. What
is that? I don't know. Are you sure that's a
better story than me getting kicked out of for FARTI ga.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Yeah, continue that place.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
I really wish we had more.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
So mister Fortie would sit there forty eight he'd say,
I smell that smell? Who did that smell? And everyone
knew that, Like he was like adverse to anybody having
that come out of their back end. And now let's
remember a couple of things. All boys school. Uh yeah,
so you're not worried about such a thing because because

(01:28:00):
there's no girl, you know, you don't. I didn't care
about impressing Brett Vaalist next to me, right like whatever, dude? Uh?
And so like if you did it, if you had to,
you just let her rip. That was fine. He would
go sideways. This dude would go sideways. And by the way,
he looked like a math teacher except for one thing.
What y'll explain. He had so this dude had like

(01:28:20):
the glasses, like the black like the Eugene Levy kind
of black class black riom glasses. Yeah, the Chris Berman
short sleeve dress shirt from the Chris Berman collection. Polyester pants,
but the short sleeve dress shirt and the pocket protector.
He had. He had it all going on as far
as school there, what's that? What era are we talking

(01:28:42):
about here? This is this was the eighties. This was
the eighties. So but yeah, fortunately he would he would
now where he didn't look like the normal guy.

Speaker 4 (01:28:51):
He's a former hockey player. Really, he had forearms that
looked like Popeye.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Wow, Like, so the dude, the dude looked like he
just looked at his face and how he'd like, this
is the biggest nerd I've ever seen. He is. This
is this is like if you're going to design, what
a math teacher looks like? This is what he looks like.
That'll kick your ass. But yeah, there's a potentially kick
your ass, yeah, because the dude played hockey back in
the day where that's what you did. Yeah. Yeah, he
was an interesting cat. I liked the guy in retrospect.

(01:29:17):
I remember seeing him after I graduated, and I wasn't
bothering Himore. But yeah, we would get you get kicked
out of class, which resulted in detension all the time
for for such things, for such acts coming out of
a human human body.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
So was he quoting that song can't you smell that smell?

Speaker 7 (01:29:32):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:29:34):
Or that oh that smell?

Speaker 1 (01:29:37):
Well, that was that's uh Leonard Skinner?

Speaker 3 (01:29:40):
Right, Yeah, that's what I was wondering.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Yeah, that would have been. It would have been Leonard
Skinner was yeah, no, he that God, I didn't think
about that.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
As soon as you said it. I was like always
quoting that song. That smell is the name of the song.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
That is a Leonard Skinner song, right, it is, yes,
And Leonard Skinner was popular in the.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
Seventies seventy seven that song came out.

Speaker 1 (01:29:59):
Okay, there there you go. That's I never thought of
it that way. And now see we've learned something today.
This is good. This is good. This is really a
good thing. On the day before the draft, we've learned something.
We have learned something here today which we're very excited about.
All right, listen, we're out here at Cracking Community, ice Plex,
thirty two, Bar and Grill on the eve of NFL Draft.
We will be all over that tomorrow. Will tell you
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one at the bottom of the hour on the Tukmadage

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text line. But earlier today I got a chance to
catch up with Bobby McMahon, pending free agent thirty gold
guy almost twenty nine for the Kraken after you get
traded over from the Toronto Maple Leafs, and we started
up by just saying, hey man, how you doing great?

Speaker 7 (01:30:35):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:30:36):
You'd rather be.

Speaker 7 (01:30:37):
Playing, of course.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
How frustrating is that? I know when you came here,
this team was kind of on the verge. One of
the reasons they traded for you is this team was
thinking about the postseason. You put up your numbers, you
did your job, but the team fell a little short.
What how frustrating is How would you describe that feeling
when you fall short of the postseason.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 13 (01:30:55):
It's something that I definitely wanted to come in make
an impact, be a part of this.

Speaker 7 (01:31:00):
They had some good success. They're leading into the.

Speaker 13 (01:31:02):
Break not paying a ton of attention to this team,
obviously being on the East Coast, so it was kind
of like a bit of a fresh start, kind of
just coming in, getting to check out a new place
and trying to bring some energy. So it's been it
was hard. It's been hard. I guess kind of know
when we're out of it for the last few games there.

(01:31:23):
But definitely an organization that I've been happy to be
a part of, and after kind of the dust settled
from the trade, was super excited to be here down
the stretch.

Speaker 4 (01:31:31):
How hard is it to get traded in the middle
of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Yeah, And I asked it because it's just I think
we all think sports fans media is like, uh, you know,
these guys make a lot of money, They're fine, They're
just up. How hard is it though, And what are
the challenges of moving, especially from a place like Toronto
to here, because that's a whole different world.

Speaker 7 (01:31:46):
Yeah, yeah, it's difficult.

Speaker 13 (01:31:48):
I think it's exactly what you say, Like guys or
people think and fans think, you make a lot of money,
it's you'll be fine. It's kind of your job, and
it is your job, so you have to be ready
to go and be ready to play, but it's also
you're a human being. You kind of grow some roots
in a certain city. I was there for a while.
You get to know the streets, you get to know

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the restaurants, you get to know all those things, or
you get to find your favorite spots all those things,
so just to be uprooted like that. Luckily I had
my girlfriend come with me. That was kind of part
of the comforting side of it, but also like tough
for her as well. Coming over here and changing time zones,
all of that is a big battle and part of

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something that you just got to get over. And luckily,
once you get playing on the ice that's familiar for me,
and once I was able to get into.

Speaker 7 (01:32:39):
Games, I was super nice.

Speaker 13 (01:32:41):
But yeah, it's definitely difficult trying to figure out the
smallest things like how to get into the rink, what
door to go in. All those things that are minor
inconveniences add up to be a lot when you come
to a new organization and things that you take for
granted when you're at your place you've been at.

Speaker 7 (01:32:56):
For five years or whatever it is.

Speaker 13 (01:32:59):
All those things add up to take a lot of
energy from you, So it takes that much more focus
to kind of switch teams like that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:03):
I think everybody can relate to that in whatever world
you live in, right Like you're working in a job
or in a city and you move and it's like
the unknown is kind of frustrating at times, but you
seem to acclimate yourself quite well. The chemistry you had,
especially with Maddie, it didn't take long. Why do you
think that is?

Speaker 7 (01:33:22):
Uh? I think uh.

Speaker 13 (01:33:25):
I think he's so dynamic in the way that he
plays east west, and I think he that's kind of
the strength of his game in the way that he's in.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
You're north south guy's that's the thing covered all the geography, right,
And I think when you cover the whole map like that,
I think it works out well so and I think
we neither of us try to deviate from that.

Speaker 13 (01:33:41):
Obviously, he's a super dynamic player. He can do almost
anything on the ice, so he plays north south as well,
but like he can, he can play that east west,
and I think that because I was more north south,
I kind of created more space. Try to get the
puck to him, let him carry it in zone entries
things like that, and then just try and find open ice.
And he knows I like to shoot the puk and
seems like he's a bit more of a past first guy.

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He's got a great shot as well, but he was
definitely looking for me, which I appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:34:05):
Every fan listening right now, Bobby McMahon is like, Okay,
that's great. What does he think of this place? So,
I mean, you've got you put yourself in a great position.
Twenty nine goals, You're right there. You have a chance
to make life changing money first time is a like
real big time free agent, a lot of market for you.
First of all, congratulations, that's gotta be nice. Like you know,
you've you work your whole life to get to this point, right,
to get to this point of having those opportunities as

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a free agent, So how do you approach it?

Speaker 13 (01:34:30):
Yeah, it's weird because I've always been my whole life
on that side of working towards something, and now that
the season's over, it's kind of like you transition to
maybe looking at the contract side of it, and it's
a weird thing that I haven't really had a chance
to do yet. But this is definitely an organization that

(01:34:52):
has treated me well, coming in, super super warm, welcome,
enjoyed the time with the guys, as the coaches, the
management have all been super nice. So it's something that
I'm gonna have to look at really seriously. Obviously it's
a point in my career where I want to make.
It's gonna be some big decisions. Obviously I want to

(01:35:12):
make the right one. So it's a city that I've
got to know a little bit, didn't know what time
coming in. Enjoyed my time here, and I feel like
it's it's definitely spot that I could see myself ending
up at.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
Where does Lane fit into that Lane Lambert.

Speaker 13 (01:35:26):
Yeah, he's a big part. He's a big part in
me coming here and feeling comfortable. I think because having
him for a year in Toronto as an assistant, I
got to know him, so we kind of skipped the
get to know each other part and just jump right
into the hockey. And then he also was super confident
in my abilities and super excited to have me here,
and I think that that helped kind of solidify my

(01:35:49):
game and kind of the confidence of my game to
try and play to my strength and play to an
ability that could contribute to this team. And he was
really forward with that and understand, I mean that we're
just gonna get right down to it and try and
put you to work here. And that was helpful and
get me acclimated.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
You when you come here and you're and he puts
you on the top line. Not always PP one, but
you were on the top line. And I mean that's
in this situation, and maybe I guess the question would
be how much do things like that way into what
you want to do or what you will do, because
you know, in Seattle you're a top three guy, You're
gonna get top line minutes, You're gonna get opportunities with

(01:36:28):
Mattie or whoever like that. The hockey part of it.
They're not a playoff team this year. Hopefully next year
gets back to that and there's a contender like what
goes into the hockey side of things because from a
hockey standpoint, these guys are gonna give you opportunities and
not every team would give you.

Speaker 13 (01:36:44):
Yeah, I think that's a factor in it. I think
the biggest factor is obviously winning. I think that's that's
the biggest thing. And then some of the best feelings
you get in hockey is when you contribute and you're winning.
So if I'm in a role where I can contribute
every night and have that opportunity, I think that that's
a massive factor as well. Because I love playing this game,
and I love being a piece of a puzzle that

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has success and a piece of a puzzle that gets
completed and reaches an ultimate goal at the end of
the season. So I'd love to be a part of
that and be a big piece of that for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Is this team on the right path in your mind?

Speaker 5 (01:37:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:37:18):
I think there's a lot of details and small habits
that are being instilled here that can pay dividends in
the long run, and not just in one year, but
in several years.

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
Is that a lame thing?

Speaker 3 (01:37:29):
Like?

Speaker 13 (01:37:29):
I think Laane's been trying to establish at like a
lot of teaching, a lot of understanding that this is
a younger group, that there is a lot to be learned,
even for veteran guys. I think guys that see the
game maybe like not many other players in the league,
like Abs, like he sees the game so well.

Speaker 7 (01:37:43):
I think they're still learning and growing.

Speaker 13 (01:37:44):
And he's still such a competitor that he still wants
to be so much better. And I think that that
carries all the way down in the group from Lane
and Ebbs and then all the way down that everybody
wants to grow and learn those details and be better
with their habits, and all those things pay off come
the end of the season and several seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:37:59):
Forward, Bbby McMahon for a couple more moments with us,
all those things kind of come into play. The city
you mentioned, And I talked to Brennam on tour and
and just asked him about this, because he obviously came
here with Chandler and they signed some pretty healthy contracts,
and they came here and didn't know a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:38:16):
About the city Seattle.

Speaker 1 (01:38:18):
The city of Seattle, the fan base has had a
chance to recruit you for the last you know, a
couple of months, which is good, but again, you didn't
know much about it. What about this city is enticing?
And can this franchise and more specifically, because the facilities
are great, can this city attract NHL free agents and
top players?

Speaker 13 (01:38:36):
Yeah, I think it's hard to get your name out
there as a new organization.

Speaker 7 (01:38:41):
Vegas had some success.

Speaker 13 (01:38:43):
Luckily right off the bat, so that kind of draws
guys in and Seattle's Vegas seeing that it's a winning team.

Speaker 7 (01:38:47):
It also helps us Vegas. But I think yeah, with
the with.

Speaker 13 (01:38:51):
The word and the buzz that the city gets, with
how pretty it is, I didn't know that there's mountains
coming in. I really didn't know how visually only the
city was coming in with the water in the mountains
and everything. I think that's a draw for guys. But
also seeing how invested the fan base is here, how
loud they are games, how much they care and want

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to see us win, I think that's a huge factor
in getting guys here and getting guys to stick around
for longer deals. And then I also think this organization
is gaining a bit of a reputation for treating guys well,
and I think that that's another way that you can
pull guys in. And ownership and management has been trying
to do a good job since I've been here, and
I've noticed that and making sure that guys are treated well,

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making sure they're taken care of, making sure families are
taken care of, and that all goes a long way.

Speaker 11 (01:39:38):
And recruiting, Yeah, how is the locker room?

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
How many guys are recruiting you right now? Because that's
how it works as well. I know MANI and other
guys are like, what's the Listen. Everyone understands, because in
every business you want to separate business from that. But
the reality is these guys want to win. They know
you help them win. So do you have that like guys, Okay, Bobby,
come on now, let's go.

Speaker 7 (01:39:57):
How does that work?

Speaker 13 (01:39:58):
Yeah, yeah, definitely, they've been They've been giving me a
nudge here and there, trying to give me a stay.
Looks like I'm getting out on the course of with
some guys. I'm sure they'll be playing some negotiations there.
We're going on a bit of a trip. Nice good
with some guys Northern Washington. I think, what do you
play out right now?

Speaker 11 (01:40:16):
I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:40:17):
I don't play enough. It's been the hockey season.

Speaker 13 (01:40:19):
But screamed sambag or screaming sandbag, I usually say at ten,
that's usually what I'm going with.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
All right, that's see, that's that's there's people are gonna
be wanting strokes, right, That's how it's gonna be. You're
gonna try to grobble some strokes for somebody. Who's a stick?
Do you think out there?

Speaker 13 (01:40:34):
I think flour is a stick. He was trying to
tell me he is a three point four. So anytime
you're getting into the point, so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:39):
Your single digit and you're throwing a point in. Yeah,
because I know what I am. I'm a point, but
it ain't single digits.

Speaker 7 (01:40:45):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:40:48):
Oh, I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
Some cheese and some strokes along the way. Well, finally,
it's been great to see you here. Do you expect
to make a decision at all before free agency? You
didn't try to hit the market.

Speaker 13 (01:40:58):
I mean, I don't really have an answer for that.
It's it all depends on kind of where we can
get here. Hopefully we could get something done that would
be great. Yeah, definitely nice to be somewhere that I'm
familiar with. But yeah, I'm not really taking any negotiations
right now. I think we'll kind of wait a little
bit and get into it later.

Speaker 1 (01:41:18):
Go play some golf, get some strokes, especially from Fleury.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
Get some strokes exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Yeah, don't let them cheese you out of those things,
and and enjoy your time. Great watching you play here
this year. I know fans enjoyed really watching you play
as well. Hopefully you found a home here, but if not,
congratulations on a hell of the season and whatever happens next,
best to luck to you.

Speaker 7 (01:41:35):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:41:35):
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Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
All right, uh, that is the Tacoma Dodge textan. By
the way of this reminder, if you're out and about
heading around you want to do something this afternoon, It's
kind of fun.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
Have a couple of pops, have some good food. Uh
Dino's Pub.

Speaker 1 (01:42:12):
In Rent told, told they got the uh Millan mall
or mall or Millan mock draft coming up at three
o'clock today.

Speaker 3 (01:42:18):
All right, Oh, it's a fabulous time.

Speaker 1 (01:42:22):
Yeah, all right, I'm looking to text you guys. Anything
jump out at you before I start. Anybody, anybody, anybody
verification code?

Speaker 4 (01:42:31):
So hold on?

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Got I know?

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Uh, well, here there are some that are slightly critical
after listening to the Gtailla interview far away here we
go building. It's been five years and I see zero improvement.

Speaker 4 (01:42:49):
Records speak for themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
They're better. Oh I don't want to put this. I
mean here, you one in year two, you had nobody
in your system because you were two drafts in and
kids were still eighteen nineteen. You've got more depth in
your system, you're a better I mean, the first year
that team wasn't very good. Second year they I still

(01:43:15):
can't really sit outside. They had this crazy high shooting percentage,
which is a stat we don't always use in hockey.
That was kind of lightning in a bottle, and then
they regressed. They're a better hockey team today this year,
and they're better rostered this year than they were the
last two years. Do you think that we got and
they're better coached and they're better coach.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
We got spoiled right with their playoff push.

Speaker 1 (01:43:37):
I think there's other expectations that are Vegas doesn't help.

Speaker 4 (01:43:42):
And that in that that playoff in twenty three. That
is what I want to It's gonna weird be saying this.
That's what I want to avoid, is where you just
have a one off like, oh, this is where we
are now.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
I want to because because there's a president for that.
It's three hours north. Vancouver had that a few years ago,
right exactly. It's a great comparison and they came away.

Speaker 4 (01:44:02):
The other part you're gonna hear and this is where I.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Think fans sometimes get confused, and it just weird talking
about talking about it here today. Like Utah is non
expansion team, but everyone every time you watch a Utab
Mammoth playoff game right now, they're being portrayed as an
expansion team. Right. All their great draft picks came courtesy
of wait for it, tanking years in Arizona. So it's

(01:44:23):
it's yes, that's that's you gotta kind of you know,
Dylan Gunther's one of their best players. He was, He
was Maddie van Ear's draft.

Speaker 4 (01:44:31):
He was drafted.

Speaker 1 (01:44:32):
Eleventh, ninth, ninth, Yeah, yeah, by the Arizona Coyotes, not
the Utah Mammoth. The Utah Mammoth. I'm telling you right now. God,
I was just torn last night.

Speaker 7 (01:44:42):
Yeah, I was like all over the place.

Speaker 1 (01:44:45):
I know, you just feel to me. They feel to
me too much. Do the Utah Mammoth like the Oklahoma
City Thunder just drive me nuts?

Speaker 4 (01:44:54):
I bet if you were in Arizona you would feel
that way for me, because it does.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
All kind of I kind of feel that way not
being in Arizona, because I went through the sonic stuff
and I it's I'm looking at Cooley Gunther and these
guys going oh, that feels a lot like Durant and
Westbrook and you know Sergebaka, Sergebaka and Jeff Green and
all the way we go. Right, Yeah, I mean, I
do you realize west Russell Westbrook, Russell Westbrook and Sirgebaca

(01:45:20):
the last two first round picks by the Seattle super Sonics.
That is correct. We had a draft. We did a
draft press conference and shows at the Frankfurt Toddle Center,
which is now longer with us. It's now the Bill
Gates Foundation. Is that that's that location, and we were
there and those guys got drafted that day. I remember

(01:45:42):
arguing with Percy Allen from the Times, I don't think
I don't think Westbrook's any good. Oh boy, you said
you said that? Or okay Oka's good? Argument we had Yeah,
I was right, he was wrong. But and listen, I
can't say that all that often. But the point is
is that we had debate, and we would have been
fun to actually talk.

Speaker 2 (01:46:01):
What.

Speaker 1 (01:46:01):
No, they never played in Seattle because a week later,
not even a week later, the team was gone. Anyway,
continue what else we got?

Speaker 2 (01:46:08):
All right, Well, some corrections on our Canadian dollar. It's
seventy three cents.

Speaker 4 (01:46:14):
Actually it's thirty seven, Well it should be sixty three?

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Is not wrong? Am I wrong?

Speaker 3 (01:46:20):
I said it was a dollar? Yeah, no, I thought
you were correct?

Speaker 1 (01:46:23):
Wow yeah soon mouth and it was actually really bad mouth?
Is what you're telling me?

Speaker 3 (01:46:28):
Well, I think I didn't. I googled the conversion rate
and not actually, uh that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Was point seventy three US. Yeah, I just checked. Yeah,
Tom Condon Dundon, I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
I wait, content, Tom Condon?

Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Did I call him Dundon? What I call him?

Speaker 4 (01:46:44):
His name is Tom Dundon.

Speaker 3 (01:46:46):
Yeah, we're talking about Dundon.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
Yeah, that's why I thought.

Speaker 4 (01:46:48):
Yeah, that's his name. I responded to that texter that
is literally his name.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
Yeah, what the hell?

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
Yeah, Tom, I.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Just confused me. Did I get that wrong?

Speaker 4 (01:46:59):
Oh? Ian, we got a text eight four three?

Speaker 1 (01:47:02):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
See lives rent free on kJ R. I wonder where
that ARIA code's from? Block him?

Speaker 14 (01:47:11):
What?

Speaker 4 (01:47:12):
Oh South Carolina? Actually interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:47:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:47:15):
Yeah, anyway, Tom Condon was a former football players, like
an offensive lineman and yeah for a long time.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
No, don't don't listen. Don't try to correct me. When
you're the one that he's corrected. I'll make listen. I
will make enough mistakes on my own. I don't need help.

Speaker 9 (01:47:30):
Don't try to.

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Confuse me, all right, don't try to confuse me. The
thirty two bar and grill uh building, and I see
zero improvement? Was he talking about the crack of the building?
KJR building? Although do we have power back?

Speaker 4 (01:47:44):
We do?

Speaker 3 (01:47:44):
We do, we do.

Speaker 2 (01:47:47):
Although the sales team rightfully so bounced as soon as
their laptops were going to die.

Speaker 3 (01:47:54):
They couldn't plug them in anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:47:56):
I have to leave before you get the power back. Also,
you can't have an excuse to leave.

Speaker 1 (01:48:00):
Yeah, John Percival, nice thing. We don't have to recap
the interview. He got that way out in front of
that I did. That was last Friday. I did, thank you,
well done, well done.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Yeah, Tom Sa Speaking of pushing on bruises, did you
see how the m E. T A's Mets Mets Mets
lost their twelve straight game.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
I just saw they lost their twelve straight I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
Well, here we go the same person.

Speaker 2 (01:48:21):
How do Mets manage to snatch defeat from the jaws
of victory?

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
What's their mantra? Refused to win? Or maybe two outs?
Give up?

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Yes? All those things?

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Yeah, Ken confirmed.

Speaker 1 (01:48:34):
Two five three after hearing that interview, watching him play
Bobby McMahon is a must have. Yeah, he's a fun
guy to talk to you. Definitely very honest. Like I said,
hopefully cal Fury gives him some strokes and he's happy
about Seattle and comes back. So come on, good honestly,
team here, come on if you're just looking a pretty
good sign that he's been here for what a month
and a half, yep, and he's on a golf trip
with a bunch of guys from the cracket. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:48:55):
But by the way, definitely did not pre record that
interview last week and thought we played it live, but
we didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:49:01):
Yeah, yeah, definitely didn't record it on Friday and recap
it on Friday when I forgot that we played it that.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
We Sorry, I just had to get I had to
give that one. I just.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
God, that was that was like that was like an
all time old man moment when I started doing that
with Andrews. What do you think about it?

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
You had just talked to him like it makes sense
from some of.

Speaker 1 (01:49:23):
Them sometimes sometimes it does. Just so you know, the
murders suck. Okay, are we sure?

Speaker 9 (01:49:30):
We sure?

Speaker 1 (01:49:30):
Are we sure?

Speaker 3 (01:49:32):
Mode yet?

Speaker 1 (01:49:38):
Speaking of your school days. I wish you would have
beat up Bobby a couple of times. He'd be better
for it. Uh, Bobby Ferguson, I only went to school
with Ferguson twice. I wasn't the beat up kind of guy.

Speaker 4 (01:49:46):
No, No, I was a nice guy. I'm a very
nice guy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Listen, I tell you this. I I listen Bobby Ferguson
being in power. He had four years at Blanchet. I
blame all those people Blanchet.

Speaker 4 (01:50:00):
Wow, Okay, I see how it is.

Speaker 1 (01:50:02):
And again we just point out he's a Blanchet guy.
So you want to compet it on the state. This
is a Blanchet all right. This is not an O
Day issue. This is not a cap issue. This is
one hundred percent not a st AND's issues, undred percent
a Blanchet issue. Yes, student Bonnie president Blanchet, you know,
student body president? You do, Bobby Ferguson, I wonder if

(01:50:23):
he tried to implement like a school sales tax.

Speaker 4 (01:50:26):
See that's why I think it's more of a you
dub issue than a Blanchet.

Speaker 1 (01:50:29):
You think so I like that. I like agree on that.
I'm gonna see how to you guy, I can. Yeah,
I'll agree upon that. You know what, Robert Ferguson is
Udub's fault problem. Yeah, you guys do you guys deserve
all the blame for that? Gosh? Oh lord, all right?
Anything else here? Do we have a Keith Keith Miller today?

Speaker 5 (01:50:49):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
No, we have a couple.

Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
Yeah, there's always a Keith Miller.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Keith Miller will find me a Keith.

Speaker 4 (01:50:54):
I'll do one of them, justing to the other one
two five three, Keith. If the masses think Arizona wants
to hop the Jets to get a QB, why not
squeeze the Jets from more draft capital. Those os for
the Jamal Adams deal.

Speaker 1 (01:51:08):
They do always for Jamal they really do, they do?
They true? That is true?

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:51:15):
Keith also also wondering did you ever get a penance
for the sinners yesterday? I think he should have to
listen to a Nicaraguan pickleball podcast. Paul and Andrews gets
oiler fan Kate as his phone screensaver for a month
and for their transgression.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
Kate the one that got naked, Yes, that took her
shirt off. Yes, yes, it's not a bad punishment, was it?

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Nicaraguan pickleball podcast? I think he's making fun of basketball
in the Philippines.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Well, here's a funny thing. I know a guy that
I'm going to see in about an hour and a half.
I played golf with that. He wagers on table tennis
out of Pakistan.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
Oh my gosh, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:51:58):
You can do that. You can have should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
That is, can you make a podcast about it? He's
not well spoken, but and I just think that's I
try to point out to my I said, listen, I
know there's nothing to bet on that day when you're
going to the casino, but I think you got a problem,
if you got a massive problem, to be honest with you, fella.
All right, we're gonna head over to Dinos in a

(01:52:23):
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(01:52:47):
Mock Draft. I think he may not be on Mike
just yet. Oh my god. That's great.

Speaker 4 (01:52:50):
He asked me how much time I was left in
the break About a minute a half go, I said
about a minute and half.

Speaker 1 (01:52:54):
He's a productshit all for not.

Speaker 3 (01:52:56):
I mean he'd be socializing at Dino's.

Speaker 1 (01:52:58):
Oh wow, I'll probably getting himself on Tito's and SODA's
what he's doing.

Speaker 4 (01:53:04):
Oh, he wouldn't do that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:05):
There's no chance a true professional like that guy. Yeah, right,
there's no chance he'd be doing that. So the the
the draft mock draft coming up in just a couple
of minutes at three o'clock day, twenty eighth time that
they've done. This is what I heard. I guess there
was a there's a there's always a controversy of his
Is it twenty seven is a twenty eight? I remember
having this conversation last year. Yeah, is it twenty six?

(01:53:26):
Is it twenty seven? Is twenty eight years? And are you?

Speaker 4 (01:53:29):
I am twenty eight years old? Wow, nineteen ninety seven.

Speaker 3 (01:53:34):
Maybe his birth was the inspiration.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Think about that? Anderson, what do we call it? Would
you call him earlier? Jess?

Speaker 11 (01:53:43):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:53:43):
The first bell it was Ben What do they call you,
the Duke of Hurst or something like that?

Speaker 1 (01:53:48):
Duke of Hurst? Yes, I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
I like that, Sir Andrew duer Hurst or something.

Speaker 1 (01:53:54):
You were born the first year. What's your when's your birthday?

Speaker 4 (01:53:57):
Nineteen ninety seven?

Speaker 1 (01:53:58):
No, I know what's what's the birth third? June?

Speaker 11 (01:54:00):
Third?

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
Okay, so you had not even been born yet when
they had this for the first time at Ozzie's. I
think he said it was Ozzie's the first time they
had that SOFTI there, I'm here. So did you hear
that the first I didn't hear any of it?

Speaker 9 (01:54:13):
Okay, so are you?

Speaker 1 (01:54:15):
My name is Hugh Millin.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
How are check check check?

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
SAFTI there? We can't hear you?

Speaker 5 (01:54:18):
What two one?

Speaker 1 (01:54:20):
So if I get nobody to plays that game better
than me, Now, nobody plays it better than You're not
going to trick me into that game. Well, if I
get this correct, If I get this correct, yes, the
first one was twenty eight years ago at Ozzie's.

Speaker 9 (01:54:32):
I think it was Ozzie's first one at Ozzie's.

Speaker 15 (01:54:35):
You think over Queen Anne, Hugh, you remember where it
was twenty eight years ago?

Speaker 9 (01:54:39):
Where was our first draft?

Speaker 5 (01:54:40):
Any idea?

Speaker 9 (01:54:40):
Yeah, go ahead and jump on the heads.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
Jump on the hell what am I brought you for?
I brought that up for this reason. I thought our
producer Anderson Hurst was not even born yet.

Speaker 9 (01:54:49):
That's right. That's right. Well, when you're fifteen years old,
a lot of stuff happened.

Speaker 1 (01:54:52):
That's that's true.

Speaker 9 (01:54:53):
I think you may be right here.

Speaker 15 (01:54:55):
The first one of this that we ever did happened
in the studio way back in the day. Was that
would have been that would have been three point fifty. No,
that would have been h one ninety Queen Anne, right,
the old Bunker. Yeah, yeah, because you never worked at
the old Bunker?

Speaker 1 (01:55:09):
Did you eat?

Speaker 5 (01:55:09):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:55:10):
I was, I came to three. I I waited till
you guys got the three fifty one. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:55:14):
That that that that was the bomb shelter we ever
got attacked. That's where we were all going one, Queen Anne,
that thing was bulletproof, man. But I think he was
right the first one we ever did, and I think
we had did we have media people join us for
that one? I think we had media people all over yea,
all over the country. And then nobody would call in

(01:55:35):
and Sam Meyer would have to go on the air
and just impersonate these guys.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
Hey, it's a mic from Arizona.

Speaker 15 (01:55:41):
Hey, I'm all take I'm gonna go with Donovan mcnaem,
Sarahcuse quarterback.

Speaker 9 (01:55:47):
I mean that's who it was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:48):
Did you actually do a show? Did you do a
draft at Aussie's or not?

Speaker 5 (01:55:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:55:52):
We did, we did.

Speaker 15 (01:55:52):
We did a couple of drafts to Ausi's. We've done
car We've done Ausi's, We've done the Queen Ann Beer Hall,
We've done Dino's.

Speaker 9 (01:55:59):
A bunch. I don't know, man, I lose track.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
I was asked.

Speaker 15 (01:56:02):
I was a It's like it's like the PGA Championship
just floating around the forever courses around the country.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
I remember when I was new guy KJR doing a
night show and you asked me to be the commissioner,
which Dick Fan will fill in be fantastic at today.
And we did it at a bar in Fremont that
no longer exists. It was like some yes, yes, I
don't know if I think it's the name of the bar. Yeah. Yeah,
we've been all over the place, man. But anyway, Yeah,
it was a great honor. By the way, I took

(01:56:29):
it as a great honor that day. You shouldn't have,
really I did.

Speaker 9 (01:56:32):
I thought it was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
A new guy, and you know, so think about that.
That was nineteen years ago.

Speaker 5 (01:56:38):
The right.

Speaker 15 (01:56:39):
Yeah, well, we Uh, we've decided you and I that
we're gonna do two more years of this and then
we're done.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
Really, yeah, We're going to thirty and we're finished. I'm
sick of him, he's sick of me. Enough enough of Listen.
First of all, right, that can't happen. And here's why
I got the divorce lawyer on light. That can't happen,
because if that does happen, Yeah, then what's going to
happen is Purple Sheet is going to make somebody else
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:57:05):
I really don't want to be that guy. You know,
there's no work involved in this at all. Listen, I
know it what fall in line with how you do
things anyway. So we know why I'm telling you I
don't want that to happen is because I know I
know the amount of work you put into it, and
that's part of the situation. So, uh, you guys do
do a ton of work, are you good? Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:57:28):
The worst thing about this is coming down for the
pregame for the mock draft, which is about two hours long.

Speaker 9 (01:57:33):
Yeah, and uh, you know, yeah, we've already had.

Speaker 1 (01:57:36):
A couple Oh really, it's weird what they're doing out
here at the bar we're all we're all in a
good mood.

Speaker 9 (01:57:43):
Man, Well right, we're all in a good mood.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
Really. The only people that kind of have to keep
it in check would be Faine when he announces the
picks and Hugh when he destroys the picks that are making,
which will.

Speaker 15 (01:57:56):
He'll destroy somebody and then that team will take that
guy tomorrow.

Speaker 9 (01:58:00):
Billy Price drafted.

Speaker 15 (01:58:02):
What year was Billy Price drafted by the Bengals, whatever
year it was, twenty twenty maybe I don't know, but
we had a guy, some poor bastard came down here
to a Dinos and selected Billy Price to the Bengals.

Speaker 5 (01:58:13):
And I think you made him.

Speaker 11 (01:58:14):
Cry ruin from you, Jesse, you weigh in as well.

Speaker 4 (01:58:19):
Yes, And I don't know if anders can.

Speaker 9 (01:58:21):
I need a rule in that music, by the way,
that says that we gotta go over. So if a
guy comes in.

Speaker 7 (01:58:25):
Any and he with the tenth pick, he picks the
Cardinals to take.

Speaker 16 (01:58:31):
Josh Rosen right right, and I killed the guy right right? Okay,
because what do you take Josh right? And then the
next day the Cardinals take Josh Rosen?

Speaker 1 (01:58:42):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (01:58:42):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (01:58:43):
Who's right?

Speaker 4 (01:58:44):
Well, I've got an answer in retrospect.

Speaker 1 (01:58:47):
In retrospect, it was you to criticize it because Josh
Rosen was a horrible pick.

Speaker 14 (01:58:51):
My answer would be you could say they're both right, right,
because wait, we don't give the prize out like who
we think the guy is most closely?

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Uh hit, what the team's gonna do.

Speaker 9 (01:59:03):
We give the prize out for what's the best pick?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Okay, here's what's fair.

Speaker 9 (01:59:09):
You know what, you know. It's not your turn to
talk yet. All right, just wait until three o'clock.

Speaker 15 (01:59:13):
All right, the headset people come down here, they make selections,
and we rip them.

Speaker 9 (01:59:18):
That's not gonna happen. There's no way in hell now
you can.

Speaker 15 (01:59:20):
Say, like, hey, that's a horrible pick, and if that
happens tomorrow, I'm gonna rip the team for doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:59:25):
But you fried the guy.

Speaker 15 (01:59:27):
For like you you you you acted like the guy
was dead forgotten.

Speaker 11 (01:59:30):
No, no, I acted like it was.

Speaker 14 (01:59:32):
And by the way, the Billy Price that you're talking
about five years in the league, four teams with a
terrible it was in the bottom ten percent of PFF
grades every time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:40):
So guess what.

Speaker 14 (01:59:41):
But the Bengals if they knew what what we know now,
do you think they would to take him.

Speaker 9 (01:59:46):
Hell no, knowing them, they probably would be you know.

Speaker 16 (01:59:49):
Yes, I know somebody like like, this is got to
make sense to somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:59:54):
All I know is this. I've got from from North
Gates to Maple Valley. I got a long ass commute. Yeah,
and I'm excited because I believe that you guys will
be this way for the next Here's the thing we
just for segment.

Speaker 15 (02:00:07):
We got nothing left to talk about. This is all
we were going to talk about at three o'clock. So
let's just get right to the pics. Raiders on the
clock next.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
All right, the raiders are the clock. The Maller millon
million Maller mock draft coming up standby.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.

Speaker 9 (02:00:22):
This is Paddled Day saying so long everyone,

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