Furness Show 4-24: Jadarian Price joins, Ross Tucker, Rob Rang, Danny O'Neil

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Listen. I'm taking great delight in the Rams problems because
Seattle didn't accomplish exactly what they wanted to accomplish yesterday.
Either they got half of what they wanted to get done.
They got the running back, but they didn't get more picks,
and they weren't able to trade out of the first
round and four different times, and then post post draft
news conference, John Schneider brought that up, and the body
language is different. Maybe they're really tired. I don't know,

(00:21):
but I think it's pretty evident. He said it himself.
We wanted to move down, we wanted to get some
stuff done, and I think they felt like they could
get priced later. It didn't happen, but they got their guy.
Now they have to do some more heavy lifting if
they want to add to what right now would be
a four member draft class. So starting later on today, Mariners,

(00:42):
by the way, start tonight. They're in Saint Louis, So
of course we'll have well, we'll be here with the
draft coverage. You can listen to Mariners elsewhere. We'll have
be all draft all the time, starting right now. A
couple of ways I want to go with this. In
the first segment, and we'll start with you two and
then four nine, four five one. That would be the
Tacoma Dodge text line. I don't know, it's so easy

(01:05):
to say just grade it, but I just want your
reactions to what the Seahawks did or didn't do. I
asked yesterday, would you be disappointed if they weren't able
to move down and trade out of the first round
by For example, the forty nine ers did it twice yesterday.
They went from twenty six or twenty seven to thirty
and then thirty two out one of eight teams did

(01:27):
not have a first round pick yesterday. So the forty
nine ers got probably accomplished what they want to accomplish.
They went into the draft with six picks. They had
a first and I believe a second, and then they
had four fourth round picks to start Day three and
that was it. They've changed that dramatically. They've added to

(01:48):
that tremendously. And that's what John Schneider told us on
Monday he wanted to do, and that's what what he
even told us last night he wanted to do. He
wasn't able to do that, but he was, and they
were able to get by all accounts, the second best
running back in the class who happens to be from
the same school and played behind the best running back
in this class and Jeremi Love. So they get the guy,

(02:11):
they just didn't get what they wanted to in terms
of the draft picks. So I mean, I'd say it's
a mixed bag last night for them. I think we
all would have liked to see them get more picks
to accumulate, especially and here's why. I mean, before I
get your both your thoughts and again four nine, four
to five, one want to hear from you on the
Tacoma dije X sign. Here's why this is an organization.

(02:35):
This is a GM that has done some really really
tremendous work on Day three and even Day two of
NFL drafts. I mean, over the years, what John Schneider
has been able to accomplish with those later picks is
really remarkable. And you know, everybody in the sport thinks

(02:55):
of the smartest guy in the room. They think that
they've got the secret sauce they know what they're doing. Well,
johns Steiner's proved it. I mean, he just has twenty
ten great draft with Okog and Thomas right off the
get go right. Then they moved down in the second round.
They did pick up Golden Tate in the second round.

(03:16):
And then here's what they did later on. This is
day three his first draft. Walter Thurman, who was a
solid player for them for a few years in the secondary,
Cam Chancellor. I don't need to add to that, and
that was Anthony McCoy beset by injuries. Was a decent
tight end, but beset by injuries. But I'll just look

(03:36):
at Day three and go, yeah, Walter Thurman, Cam Chanceller,
both part of the Super Bowl team the next year,
twenty eleven, when they got to day three. You ever
heard of K. J. Wright, Richard Sherman, Byron Maxwell, Malcolm Smith.
That was day three in his second draft, Day three

(03:57):
in twenty and twelve, Robert Urber, pretty good player, Jeremy Lane,
super Bowl champion, Jr. Sweezy super Bowl starter on the
offensive line. Day three in twenty thirteen, again not great early,
Harper Williams nothing, Ferld Simon never developed. But they got

(04:17):
a guy named Luke Wilson on Day three of that
draft as well. Two and fourteen. Day three. Casius marsh
played a lot. Played nine years in the NFL. Okay,
that's not a bat Kevin pier Lewis nine years in
the NFL. They didn't do much the rest of that,
but that was kind of just a crap draft all
the way around. We talked about that before. It's coming

(04:37):
off their Super Bowl championship. I'm not going to go
through all of these, but over the years, what they've
done on Day three has been massively impressive and has
been impactful for who this team is. I mean, we
all know different guys over the years, including Mquinin Jefferson
was a solid player for them on Day three. I'm
going through here. Chris Carson, I think he was a Okay,

(05:01):
let's see Michael Dixon, who's going to be a career
Seahawk and punter here had a hell of a hell
of a run along the way. You get the point
Day three. These guys do damage Day three. This is
a guy that wants more than one pick, and so
they didn't get what they wanted out of out of
day out of the thirty second overall pick, there's no
doubt about that. Hell, you don't have to go too

(05:23):
far back Day three and twenty twenty four two years ago.
How important is aj Barner to this football team pretty
damn important, I'd say, right, Tyree Knight was a starter,
but now is a key backup for this team. Day
three last year, Day three poo, my goodness, Riley Mills.
We just saw a glimpse of him when he was healthy.
Sack and the Super Bowl. Tory Horton hurt last year.

(05:44):
But you know what he can do as well, like
this team, Robbie oots. Day three is important. That's why
there was disappointment that they weren't able to move down.
Doesn't mean they can't find more picks. Use, you know,
pay it forward, get some use and picks from next
year to get some picks this year. They do something
with the sixty fourth overall pick in the second round.
Maybe they do something along those lines, but I think

(06:05):
that would be so like if you're looking at it,
I'd say it was an okay first day for the Seahawks,
but not great. It was a great pick in a sense,
but not an okay result because of what you wanted
to get, Andrews, you were sitting there with Jackson last
night was where you guys went out and decided to
tear up the town. Sure, God bless you and probably

(06:27):
have to get you had to get Jackson calm down.
But yeah, he had a lot of heavy lifting history.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
You probably even out, Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
What, what'd you think? What do you think? Anderson?

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Yeah, I actually have a little bit slightly different viewpoint
on the from people that are disappointed in that not
they weren't able to move down. I think there can
be kind of two different ways of thinking when you
have a Super Bowl and you kind of have a
core of players that you feel good about going in
the next year. We talked about with Steve Palzolo a
couple of times, like the Seahawks could play a game
right now and be like, still have a good team, right,

(06:58):
And that's rare because they're so many people that are
relying on the draft to kind of supplement their roster.
But I also and you can kind of think, Okay,
we just got to fill in the depth pieces. You
kind of got the starters. That's why, you know, the
Seahawks after their first Super Bowl run, had a lot
of those late round draft picks that you just mentioned there,
And I think because they relied on that so much,
it was kind of like they were taking flyers right

(07:20):
and not necessarily supplementing that core, and that's why it
feels like their window closed as quickly as it opened
at the same time. So I think slightly different with
this is you can have less picks and I think
getting those higher end players to kind of keep the
core together and keep supplementing it in different ways in

(07:40):
certain in terms of less quantity but more quality. So
I'm actually okay, And depending on how price plays out, obviously,
but I am actually okay if you get just a
couple maybe four, maybe five picks in total for this
draft and not you know, do the whole just quantity
in terms of just as many picks at the apple
as you can. But having like a couple really good

(08:04):
players that become starters on this team I think is important.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
I think it's interesting what you just said about the starters,
because if they were again, this is a ridiculous comment.
Even Mike McDonald brought it up the other day. If
you were to play a game today, if you were
to play a game today, you lost one player, one
starter on offense, and you had and if you were
to play today, you would have nobody replace him. I
mean it would be George Laani. No sorry, no, no,

(08:27):
that is the definition of a jag just a guy
period at a story. You replace that Tyle Katta has
already will replace Kobe Bryant boy Mafe was a rotational
piece on the defensive line. They kind of picked job
over Wolan.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
I agree, And I.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Don't know if people didn't hear us. Maybe late last
night Hugh and Rang were talking about what they're hearing
is is it me? And I Appritchett is a guy
that they expect to take that next step. He needed
to get stronger, and over the last couple of years
I believe he has. So you're fine. You're not fine
at the cornerback position, but if you had to play today,
you'd be fine, Like you'd be okay, fine, It's okay. Yeah,

(09:04):
So you're right, Andrews. I do like that, and again
I love the player. Yeah, just I I base it
on what Schneider's history is totally. And I also base
it on and we worked the room we talked to
It was Hugh and Rob and I and we're talking
to Greg and Hawk Blogger, just a bunch of people,

(09:24):
and everyone's like, yeah, was that a weird post first
round vibe? And everyone's like, yeah, that was not normal
Johnson John Schnyder usually rolls in that thing doing cartwheels. Go.
That wasn't the case yesterday. Now it wasn't. It wasn't
as dysfunctional as Less Snead and Sean McVay, not even close.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah, thank god we're out in that room.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
I think it was just a little bit of disappointment
they didn't get with one, just real quickly.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
I was just going to say that, I mean, this
is what happens when you go from the hunter to
the hunted.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (09:54):
You're really super well, like we even said it yesterday,
you're nobody's friend right now, right and you know you
look at San Francisco doing all that trades. Do you
think they're gonna do business with you right now?

Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, yeah, you weren't expecting them. But you know what happened.
Everyone around them did.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Everyone around them did.

Speaker 5 (10:08):
So Yeah, it's I just think it almost speaks to
the parody of this league had, the way that these
things end up happening.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
I but I truly took the disappointment from that.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
I felt that right you were there one hundred.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Percent, especially when the week before or days before he threw.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Out the for sale sign Yeah, and nothing happened.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah. Well he said they had some stuff going and
it didn't come through.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
It.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
It just fell through.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
And I think it's just because everything happened in front
of him. That's the problem with being thirty second. Yes,
because you're the champions, and that's that's the price you
end up paying. Yeah, So away we go. It's fun.
I mean, it's great to read into these things, and
you know, we can talk. We'll look back in a
year or two and go, yeah, you know, but it
worked out that the sixty fourth pick was unbelievable, was
so and so, and then you know, the last the

(10:52):
third round pick was great and they only had the
one pick on the on Day three, and holy cow,
that guy ends up being a Probowl right right right,
So I think we'll.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
Be very excited to day and tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
In John, we should trust four nine four to five
one in your thoughts four nine, four to five one.
Ross Tucker joins us.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
Next.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
Welcome to the NFL Draft.

Speaker 9 (11:13):
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Speaker 1 (11:34):
Genya Mason Athletics Center, Seahawks headquarters, Day two of the draft,
and it's all quiet right now, very quiet here at
the Virginia Mason Athletics Center. It's very quiet, just Jessman
and I here hanging out getting ready for rounds two
and three. It'll heat up till when people start arriving
here about an hour and a half or so, and
then day two gets underway. The Seahawks have two picks

(11:57):
and then they just have one tomorrow. So we'll get
all that coming up. Uh, joining us right now on
the Beacon Plulling Hotline. Man, I'll tell you right now,
I thought I had a lot of jobs. Like I
thought I was in the multimedia world doing different things
in radio and TV and all this. No, this, this
depth pales. That absolutely pales in comparison to Ross Tucker,
host of the Ross Tucker Football Podcast, also Westwood One.

(12:20):
You hear him on our station throughout the football season,
calling Monday, Sunday Thursday night football games on Westwood One.
He's part of the Amy Army Navy broadcast as well.
He's got a little side business we're gonna talk about too.
This guy does it all, and he's kind enough to
carve out some time for us lowly love little people
here in Seattle, Washington. Ross Tucker, how are you?

Speaker 10 (12:41):
I am fantastic ian, always great to talk with you.
And if I can go on a show with Jesssemine,
I'm gonna do it. I don't have I don't have
many rules. I don't have many rules in life. But
when Jessmine's show, reach out, reaches out, no offense. But
when reaches out, listen.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
I'm gonna tell you this, Ross, this is a this
is a this is I tell people this all the time.
I I we worked against Jessaman for a few years.
Didn't really didn't really enjoy it. I don't think you
enjoyed it, right.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh no, I just okay, Yeah, so we didn't.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You guys didn't enjoy didn't enjoy working against each other.
She ended up working at the same television station that
I was working at, at the Fox affiliate here, and I'm like,
she's a really good teammate. I'm kind of happy she's here.
Then she became a media free agent, and I said,
we got to get her because of what you just said. Ross,
It's amazing how my show has improved because people like her.

(13:38):
They don't like me necessarily, they like her. So she
calls people like you and lo and behold they're on
the radio with us. It's it's a really I like people. Okay,
it's not that hard. Well because you're because you're a
big part of the Army Navy stuff too.

Speaker 7 (13:50):
Ross.

Speaker 10 (13:51):
Yeah, Ross, uh, I, I you know what, It's interesting.
I was for years and years and then I guess
it's growing pain. But I've kind of moved up the
ranks at CBS, you know, calling games for CB NFL
games for CBS. So the last two years I've been

(14:11):
unable to do Army Navy game because I had an
NFL game the next day. So it's unfortunate because that
that was always my single my number one, single favorite
day of the year was Army Navy. And I think
that might be where I met Jessmin and yep. I
certainly told her about my front page story dot com,

(14:33):
which I think is the best Mother's Day gift I've
ever seen or heard of, and she did it and
she got one, like yes, she got it for her parents,
and I won't even I won't even tell you guys
about it. Did they write a story about your mom
or whoever you want to get it for? It looks
like it's on the cover like the Seattle Pi, like

(14:53):
it's it's beautiful framed pictures. But the key I think is,
I don't know, Jessamine, how you delivered it, but to
be able to say I wanted something special for you
as they're opening it. So I had a story written
about you like that just sounds like it sounds like
you hired like Mitch album Er, you know, some unbelievable
author to write this story. Listen, everybody I've ever talked

(15:18):
to says it's the best mothers they give or Valentine's
gay gift they've ever gotten. I think we have like
a ninety percent tiers rate, you know, with a mom
or a wife or whoever cries jess the molas. Your
experience for your parents.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Dad is stoic, so no tears, but mom mom shut
a few. But the best part in you know, coming
from a journalism background, is that you use journalists. You
actually have these people who are like former you know,
reporters and things like that. So they interview you and
you get to tell this story and they put it
into this beautiful, really framed newspaper article and you get

(15:53):
to pick the pictures and everything.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
And I had a great time.

Speaker 5 (15:56):
I talked to the gentleman who interviewed me for about
twenty minut and it like they send you, you know,
a proof, and then you approve it and it gets
shipped out.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
And yeah, I was I gave it. I did it
for Christmas.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
I remembered it from Army Navy and it was the
year after I did it for Christmas for my parents.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
I'm sold on this, by the way, because we've talked
about this. I've had Rossell before talking about this, and
Jess sold me before we went on the air. I
what's before we get to football? What's the what's the
cutoff date to get this from Mother's Day?

Speaker 7 (16:26):
Ross.

Speaker 10 (16:28):
That's a great question. And we do have a seven
day option, so if you get it a week before
Mother's Day, you can purchase the seven day option and
we guarantee it. At this point, you guys have plenty
of time. I mean we're sixteen days out, but you
know there is a little bit of a process. So

(16:50):
I would say go to my front page story dot
com and order it now. Although you know what's happened
now is I'm sure you know this game, but lot
of guys don't even think about it till like three
days beforehand. Yeah, So what's become really popular is they
go to my front page story dot com, they order it, okay,

(17:12):
and then they print out the confirmation order, put it
in an envelope, give it to their mom or wife
on Mother's Day, and then as they open it and
they're like, what is this and they say, I'm having
a story written about you. It's currently in production, but
it'll be here soon. Think about the anticipation for your

(17:35):
mom or wife or whoever, knowing that somebody that that
that at some point soon a story is going to
be sent all about them. I mean like they checked.
They literally are like looking out the window for FedEx
or ups waiting for this. So so you get you
get the window, getting them the gift, then you get
the anticipation, and then when they actually get it and

(17:57):
read it, it's almost like three gifts for the price
of one at my front page story dot com.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I love it. Yeah, well we'll get that, we'll get
that going. I love it. I'm done. It makes it
takes a zillion pounds of pressure off me for Mother's
Day for my wife this year. Okay, Ross, let's NFL drive.
Let me get We haven't been touched on this. We
were on the air tel nine pm Pacific time last
night with Hugh Millon and Rob ranging myself and jumping
back on today. I haven't even touched on this with
the listeners or anybody, but I want to get your thoughts.

(18:25):
John Schneider on Monday told us, among other things, that
he did not anticipate any issues or challenges with the
two fewer minutes between picks in the first round, Yet
it felt like there were Even for Seattle, they didn't
get what they wanted done. They wanted to get more
picks and trade out of the first round. It felt
like that sped up process, whether it was TV being

(18:46):
behind or maybe teams not getting you know, trades accomplished
or what have you, was a challenge. What did you
What did you kind of see from thirty thousand feet
with the sped up process in the first round.

Speaker 10 (18:58):
That I thought it was awesome and then I liked
the draft ended faster. I was doing a watch party
at a local bar, so uh saved me seemingly a
half hour at least. I mean, I you know now,
and in fairness, I wasn't watched like, I wasn't listening
to every second of the broadcast. So I'm making my

(19:20):
way around the room. Obviously every TV had the draft
all and I could hear it. I don't I don't think.
I mean, they don't need ten minutes, I mean even
eight minutes. They know who they're taking as soon as
the league gives them the heads up. They know who
they're taking for the most part, you know. The only

(19:41):
one that was really interesting was the Steelers kind of
jumping the gun and calling the USC wide receiver Makay Lemon,
and then the Eagles traded up. But the reality is,
if you're going to trade the pick, you're going to
do that in the first five minutes. Yeah, And if
you end up not trading it and you already know
what you're gonna take, there's not like a long discussion

(20:03):
while they're on the clock. They go through so many scenarios.
They pretty much know in every situation who they're taking.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
One of the things we were laughing about the first
when I first got to Seattle, came back to my
hometown of Seattle, and two thousand and six the first
draft I did. We did a show in two thousand
and seven, and so that was back in the fifteen
minutes between picks first round. Ross And I'll tell you
right now, whatever we do now is I'm in for
a Well it's not fifteen minutes anymore, but I'm with you.

(20:31):
I mean, it's a made for TV event. We all
know how it works. You're right, those guys probably don't
need a ton of time, but the end of the
first round did get a little speedy. I will see
be interesting to see when Schneider puts a final bow
on things what he says. I know that for him,
they didn't get the extra picks they were hoping for
with that thirty second pick. Let's go a little higher
up in the draft. There's been a lot of conversations
about what the Rams did with Ty Simpson at thirteen.

(20:54):
Matt Stafford is still there. You drafted basically a quarterback
in waiting, worked dream Bay, Aaron Rodgers, Brett Farr before
and so forth. There's so much. I know you guys
talked about it. You've talked about it a lot already.
What's your read on what the Rams did with thirteen
with Simpson?

Speaker 10 (21:12):
Well, so, man, I would say there's three layers to this. Okay,
there's the layer as to whether or not Sean McVay
was on board with this. There's the how Rams fans
could or should feel about it, and then there's how
Matthew Stafford and veteran players could feel about it. And

(21:33):
I talked about this on the Rassucker Football podcast. If
I'm Matthew Stafford or a veteran player for the Rams,
I'm furious. I'm furious. I mean, first of all, he's
the MVP of the league last year. Secondly, I know
you guys don't want to hear this, but they might
have been the best team. Yeah, okay, you know they

(21:54):
were a play away from two different losses in Seattle Night,
two point Conversion Night, the NFC Championship game. They might
have been the best team. And at number thirteen overall,
you have a golden opportunity. I mean, they were a
play away in both those Seattle games. In the thirteenth pick,

(22:18):
you have a golden opportunity to be the guy that
might make the play that makes difference in that game,
and yet you're gonna draft a quarterback that hopefully doesn't
play for a couple of years. There's question marks about it.
You know, there's no chance any veteran player liked that

(22:38):
that set. Let's get to the fans. If you're a
fan that has the same sentiment as the players, totally reasonable.
If you're a fan that says, you know what, I'm
gonna be a Rams fan for the next thirty years
and the best time I made a quarterback is when
you don't need one, and they obviously really like this guy,
and we can have him learn under Stafford for a

(22:59):
year too. You can absolutely be happy about that if
you're a Rams fan.

Speaker 11 (23:03):
Doesn't seem like many of them are, but you can.

Speaker 10 (23:07):
And the last thing I'll say about McVeigh and all
these body language experts that are convinced he had no
interest or didn't like to pick, that that just doesn't
pass this test to me. I mean, he's arguably the
best coach in the NFL. The Rams are very well
aware of that. They don't want to lose him. You

(23:30):
think with the thirteenth overall pick that that he wasn't
on board with it, that they that they just that
less need said, you know, heck was you Sean, I'm
just gonna take this quarterback because I like him, Or
that the owner came in, who I don't think. I
don't even know how much you know, how involved the
owner is and said we're taking this guy. That that

(23:52):
just doesn't seem realistic. Now, why he didn't seem as
excited after the pick after the draft, I don't mean.
Maybe he's tired, or maybe he knew that the veteran
players and Stafford were going to see it and so
he had to act like he's not happy about it
so that when he meets with the leadership committee he

(24:13):
can be like, listen, guys, I wanted to go all in.

Speaker 11 (24:16):
For this year.

Speaker 10 (24:17):
You know, there's a million different possibilities there. I just
don't believe for a second that, you know, they totally
went against what Sean McVay wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
I don't believe that Ross S Tucker joining us Ross
Tucker Football Podcast, Westwood one former NFL player with US
and happy to have him on here after Day one
of the NFL Draft. Yeah, I'm gonna stay with the
body language experts for a second, just because we dealt
with it last night here in Seattle. Ross it was
and guys like me and Hugh Millan, Rob Rang, the

(24:47):
three of us have covered every draft with Schneider since,
you know, since he's been here. And normally Schneider bounces in,
you know, after every round and he's just you know,
after every day of the draft, and he's just and
you've met John, I know, like, this guy's full of
energy and hey, brother, what's going on? And we're ready
to rock and roll. They rolled in after getting Jadarian Price,
and they it was an interesting dynamic because, unlike the Rams,

(25:09):
they immediately improved their football team. They addressed arguably their
biggest need with running back one, especially with Charboney still
coming off in ACLU. But they made no bones about
the fact that they wanted to trade out of thirty
two and get more picks. They weren't able to do
that because of all the activity in front of them.
He've actually mentioned it four times in his post day
one news conference.

Speaker 10 (25:30):
Did she not?

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Yeah, we tried, we tried, we tried. So it was
kind of an interesting dynamic here. I'd love to get
your take on what Seattle did, because they addressed the
one starter that they lost in free agency and Ken
Walker on the offense, but they didn't get more picks,
which Schneider loves, especially on day three.

Speaker 11 (25:47):
Yeah, I mean, I would say it takes two to
dag yeo.

Speaker 10 (25:52):
I mean, and it was very clear that that's something
that they wanted to do and that they were hoping
to do. But it's hard to argue with getting a
guy that a lot of people thought was a first
round pick and a lot of people really liked at
the position that they needed the most, which is running back.

(26:14):
You know, Charbonnay coming out the injury, losing Kenneth Walker,
it doesn't always unfold exactly how you wanted. Maybe he
thought they could trade down and still get price, or
trade down and get a running back later. I'd also
say this, like, if you look at their roster, they're
in a pretty good place and they still have two

(26:36):
more picks tonight. I mean, now he's hit on some
later round picks and he's as good as anybody, so
he wanted them. He could still do that with two
and three and pick up some more later if he
wants to do that, But with where his team's at
right now, I wouldn't be surprised to be takes guy
to two and three that he didn't have a good
chance to contribute this year, and then heck even moves

(27:00):
up and they don't have to go in on Saturday.

Speaker 11 (27:03):
I don't know, you know. I mean, obviously they have two.

Speaker 10 (27:05):
Front drafted pre agents. He's smart enough to know the
value of having a higher volume of picks, and you
know the nature of it. But I think ultimately Teahawks
fans should be pretty happy that they get a really
good player at a position that's super important for the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Well, we kind of we have a theme here we
use all the time. It's in John we trust and
you know, I don't know. You you build two Super
Bowl championship teams with two separate rosters, two separate head coaches,
and two separate quarterbacks over the course of seventeen years.
I think we kind of understand he knows what the
hell he's doing. So yeah, we kind of trust what
John does and we'll see what happens the next two days.

(27:48):
What team in the NFL gave you the most pause,
like like head scratching, like wow, either good or bad?
Like positive or negative? You went, what the hell are
they doing? Or man, that's unbelievable what they did.

Speaker 10 (28:01):
Well, So I'm not gonna say I don't know if
it's bad or good. What I think is the team
that's the most interesting to me is the New York Giants,
because you know, they got two guys that most people
thought throughout the process would go higher, Rvell Reese at

(28:22):
five and Francis Malignoa at ten to argo, Reese is
the Ohio state defender, Mawingnoa is the Miami offensive lineman.
What's fascinating about that, though, is they said that Arvel
Ree is gonna be an off the ball linebacker. Okay,
he wants to be an edge rusher. People thought he

(28:43):
would be an edge rusher to the Jets at two,
or the Cardinals at three, or the Titans at four.

Speaker 11 (28:49):
I think it's fasting that they.

Speaker 10 (28:51):
Had an off the ball linebacker evidently number one on
their board. But also like, if you're gonna play him
as off the ball linebacker, I think it really strong
argument can be made that Sonny Styles is a better
off the ball linebacker. So maybe they're just saying that
they're gonna use them as a rusher a lot. I
don't know. Maybe they're saying that because they want to

(29:11):
act like they're not trading Cavon Thibodeau when they are whatever.
And then Mali Noah at ten. I've really thought John
Harbaugh would go with Caleb Downs. I mean, think about
the success harball I had with Ed Reid and Kyle
Hamilton in Baltimore. Caleb Downs, you can make a strong
argument is the guy most likely in this draft to
be a perennial pro bowler. Instead, they take Mali Noah

(29:35):
and they're gonna play him at guard. Yeah, and he
has a hernie disc in his back. I mean, you're
talking about a guy that I played in Buffalo. I
had a hernie disc in my back. I had surgery
after the season, and I never started another game in
the NFL. And that doesn't mean I look, I just don't.
I'm not aware of an offensive lineman with the hernie

(29:56):
disc that didn't eventually have to have the surgery and
then once you have that, I'm also not aware of
a guy that used to have a bad back. It's
kind of something that you manage and you can get through.
And I was able to play three more years even
if I didn't start a game. But that just seems
like a pretty big risk. You know, they're basically moving

(30:18):
both these guys positions or playing in a different position.
I don't know, you know, I mean they could have
taken sunny styles. And if you guys take now we
know who to play guard, why don't you just take
vega Ione who was from out there in Seattle and
Washington the best guard in the draft to play hit
at guard?

Speaker 1 (30:35):
Yeah, yeah, I picked the kid from Graham Caapals. And
that's what listen, maw. You know we know the family. Well,
he just does sideline work for Washington State. I'm gonna
wash it, so we know his two brothers. And yeah, yeah,
the kid I mean, and the guy's a beast, there's
no doubt. But like you said, I mean, short armed
offensive tackle that played on the right side. You're gonna
move inside and you take him number ten as opposed

(30:56):
to a natural guard, like you said, is it's a
little bit of a head scratcher. Maybe they'll look the
smartest guys in the room. Who knows along the way,
But all right, well listen, here we go round two.
Tell people about podcasts. We talked about you know my
front page, Tell me about the podcast. If you're a
football fan should be checking out what Ross does.

Speaker 10 (31:13):
Yeah, I mean listen, it's, I don't know, one of
the two or three best daily NFL football podcasts out there.
It's less than thirty minutes. Every episode's less than thirty minutes.
So if you want a former player's perspective who's now
an analyst for CBS and west Wood One on everything
going on the NFL in less than thirty minutes Monday
through Friday, you got it. Ross Tucker Football Podcast.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
And I think, are you still doing stuff with my
buddies Donny and Dolly up there in Vancouver?

Speaker 10 (31:42):
I am, yeah, I mean basically only during the NFL season.
They're two hockey five right now.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
I think, Oh, I know I do. I do work
for the Crack and TV here, and so I'm on
with those guys every week for the last couple of years.
I usually hear your name mentioned when they're doing a tease. Hey,
Ross has come up, but we got to get instead
right now he's coming on, so's I always feel like
I'm playing second fiddle to Ross Tucker on that Donnie
and Dolly show, But uh, I think I'm going on
with them next week, so I'll say hi, to those

(32:09):
two knuckleheads for you along the way.

Speaker 10 (32:11):
So well, that sounds good and you should be used
to it because you're playing second fiddle to and I.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I'm making a promo.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Yeah that's why. I just I can't wait to hear
the promo playing on our station here very soon as well.
So hey, Ross, great catching up. Thank you so much.
I appreciate you, carm time for us out here in Seattle.
Today we'll talk again, thank.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
You, of course, see you guys.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
All right, Jim, that's Ross Tucker joining us here on
Sports traw.

Speaker 7 (32:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
We like Jesse and have you ever heard that before?
Never heard that, never heard of that.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I need a mash up of all the guests.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah, that's absolutely fantastic. Now we love having him on
talk to and I think I'm gonna do that this year.
Actually that my front paging. I think I got some idea.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
Yeah, I think I'm middling around in my head.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
Right, I'll actually show you mine. I'll find the picture
of it.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Picture. Yeah, Okay, we'll take a break, we'll come back.
One other things I wanted to hit on in that
the first round the ty Simpson picked with the Rams.
Why it was really really good for Seattle, and it
has nothing to do with them being pissed off the Rams,
but it actually has to do with competing against these
guys every day as well. We'll talk about that next.

Speaker 8 (33:19):

Speaker 9 (33:21):
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Speaker 1 (33:41):
I went back here in Virginia Mason Athletics Center, cruising
along on a Friday afternoon. Day two of the NFL
Draft coming up. But four o'clock is when the draft
gets going Softy. Hugh and Dick Fane will be with
you for that, and then Hugh and Faine or Hugh
and Rob rang and I will join you at seven o'clock,
seven and nine and or so whenever they wrap things
up and we hear from Johns and Mike McDonald. I

(34:01):
mentioned that the Rams thing. Here's why it was a
good day for Seattle, and Rob and I were sitting
there watching this take place, and when they took Ty
Simpson to the Rams, at thirteen. The first thing we
said was because we were looking going into it thinking,
oh my god, they could take a couple of guys
here that could really cause more problems for a team.
That Ross Tucker just mentioned was right there. I mean, listen,

(34:25):
it was a photo finish between these two teams. They're
two best teams the NFL last year, the Rams of
the Seahawks, and it was a photo finish between the two.
You're in the same division. You don't want to see
them get batter immediately. A thirteenth overall pick in the
first round could make them better automatically. Andrews, what if
ruben Bain went there? Oh god, because that's what we're
looking at thinking they've got Verse Sisk and they add

(34:48):
ruben Bain to that. Yeah, no, no, thanks like that,
and we were kind of convinced that was going to happen.
He went two picks later. Or Kenyan Sadik, the tight
end from Oregon. Yeah, way, McVeigh uses a tight end.
He made Kobe Parkinson look like an All Pro last year.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
How about you add Kenyon Sadik to that team?

Speaker 10 (35:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (35:09):
What no? Like like no, But Caleb Banks, the d
tackle in the middle of that defensive line for them.
I wasn't worried about like a McKay lemon. There's talk
about that they've got. Yeah, they're not going to add
to that room, you know with that with that high
of a pick right along the way, they could have gone,
you know, they could have gone a Key Mesador, the

(35:29):
other Miami Red rusher. Like, there's a lot of stuff
that they could have done at that thirteenth pick that
could have put them over Seattle.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
And they instead not even did They just draft a
quarterback that won't help their team probably this year. But
it's kind of a reach in most people's eyes too,
a big reach.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Most people didn't see him as.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
A first round No, not at all.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
And and you know you're going to get, like I said,
you're getting the spins from the Albert Brears in the
overs of the world that are going to be telling,
you know, spinning their stuff off. That's fine, it's just
that's no one's buying what you're selling, and you know
who's really not buying it?

Speaker 4 (36:04):
Matthew Stafford, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
And I think what ross suckers is important too. If
you're a veteran player in there, you're like, well, wait
a second, we're that close and we just picked We
just basically threw away that first round pick for three years, right,
it makes no sense. Okay, uh do you have Let's
get a little Robb Rang. Okay, so we're gonna play
Rang Palazzolo and co Sell at various points in the
show today are guys that were all previewing the draft

(36:26):
for us over the last couple of months, and we
spent a lot of time talking about running backs. And
Andrews went back and thank you Andrews for doing this.
She had to go back and grind through and find
the guy they picked, Jadari in love Jadarian Price. Sorry,
Jeremiah Love Jadarian Price. We had, by the way, first
time ever teams had the two running backs taken in
the first round from the same school. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Really, I didn't realize it was the first time ever.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
So well, because usually running back two would transfer or
not get enough run to.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
To be up there.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
So let's uh, let's hear this is Rob Rang. A
few weeks ago when we asked and I asked him
about Jadarian Price and what he thought of the notre
game running back number two.

Speaker 12 (37:08):
The fact that Jeremiah Loved the quote unquote other Notre
Dame running back gets so much attention. I think that's
one of the reasons why people are sleeping a little
bit on juderi On Price. Like one of the real
criticisms that people have of him is the fact that
he supposedly wasn't very effective on third down. Well, that's
one of the things that Jeremiah Loved does exceptionally well.

(37:30):
I mean, he's getting comparisons to Alvin Kamaras and you know,
and play in people like that, so you know, just
because he is so good out of the back of
As a receiver, Jeneium Price was the Notre Dame's primary
kickoff return kickoff returner throughout his college career had three

(37:50):
returns for touchdowns over his career. Obviously, this is the
US team that prioritizes special teams play and Notre Dame
Marcus Freeman's head coaches knocked going to put a player
back that they don't truck his hands. He just didn't
get very many opportunities on third down because that's where
Jeremiah Love was so special. So I just see Jendeim
Price is not having concerns on third down and I

(38:12):
think that he's the most instinctive runner in this draft class,
and including Jeremiah Loved. You know, we talk often talked
about how the Seahawks and John Schneider that they when
most NFL teams are zigging, that he'll zag. That's kind
of the way that Jerrem Price runs. He just has
an anticipation about him. He sees where defenders are going
and he is already making his cut to react. And

(38:36):
we talk so much about the outside zone that you
got to be able to plant your foot in the
ground and go downhill or cut back against the grain.
That's where this guy excels. I think he's going to
be a star in the NFL. I think that he
is one of only two along with Jeremiah Love, only
two backs that really deserve to be selected in the
first round. And if he is available at number three

(38:57):
to two overallan I think that he had there very
good chance. I'd be in the seatle selection.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Ranger.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Nailed it, nailed it.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
I want that later on today at two o'clock, that
last part, all right.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
It should be emblazoned.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
I need that, I need the last twenty seconds Anderson,
when we bring when we bring Rob on at two
o'clock today. I want to bring that on.

Speaker 10 (39:21):
I did.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
I did show them the two texts yesterday. The one
if we had a twenty seven round draft, Rang would
still know everybody true, and then if then the one
text yesterday was classic. I'm looking forward to the sixth
round pick. When Rob talks about, you know, how he
came from a single parent household, and like it went
on and on. I'm like, yeah, I know, off the
top of his head, he'll just fire that off there.

(39:42):
So uh I I got to tell you this and
anders you around yesterday. Working with with Rang and Hugh
and they're very different in how they approach the things.
But working with those two every year for the seven
and nine show on Thursday and Friday is an absolute blast.
Like it is an I wipeople enjoy it as much
as I enjoy doing it.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
It's talking a computer.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
It's just like these guys just fire off and I'm like, okay,
I'm just going to traffic coper.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
Saying this traffic cop.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah, it's going away, we go. That's my job, this
in and out. Thanks for coming. As as Hugh says,
ten and two hands on the wheel way, we go
all right, we'll take a break, we'll come back, we'll
reset the day. We've got Danny O'Neil coming up at
one twenty today. Rob Rang himself will be with us
here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center at two. All right,
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Speaker 2 (41:41):
When there's a Monday night football game, your pe caroling.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
The one o'clock hour is basically the two o'clock hour.
Here we are, yes, we're doing a three hour show
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Speaker 7 (41:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (41:51):
Okay? Well wait wait wait wait wait wait wait whoa
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Checks contract, Yeah, okay, Oh, we're happy to be here
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Speaker 2 (42:24):
The people want more Ian, No they don't.

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I have done my research. They don't.

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Speaker 1 (42:33):
To stomach two hours. All right, So this is the
one o'clock hour, which would be our two these days,
we're gonna check it. Rob Ring's gonna join us in
person at two o'clock. We'll get to him.

Speaker 13 (42:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Danie O'Neil coming up at one twenty today. Uh, Draft
Day two. We're gonna be on the air until I'm
guessing last night it was nine ten. I'm guessing around
nine ten, nine o'clock, nine to fifteen, whatever, however long
it takes to get John and Mike out. After the
second and third rounds, they'll come out and we'll probably
if they make two picks, we'll hear from those two

(43:02):
picks live on the radio, like we did last night.
We had a ton of people listening, which we really
appreciate everybody tuning in. It's it's you know. We live
in a world now with multimedia stuff. We joke about it,
but the app is an ideal thing for you. If
you don't have the iHeart Radio app yet, make sure
you get it. I know last night there was a
lot of people because I lived this world for many years.

(43:23):
Andrews was coaching you soccer in this area for many years. Right, yep,
there are in our area on a given weeknight a
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sports carpool thing, or maybe watching a game or a practice.

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Speaker 5 (44:08):
I get to hear from the well, especially when I'm
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Speaker 2 (44:17):
I'm like, I get to hear voices, hear from the people.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
Voices are all right well. Voices we heard during the
pre draft lead up included Rob Rang, Steve Pelozolo from
the thirty third team that checked the mic podcast, and
Greg Cosil, who also does work for the thirty third team.
Of course, ESPN Matchup show in NFL Films and all
previewing the draft. Well, one of those players that they
all talked about has already been picked by Seattle, Jadari
and Price, the running back out of Notre Dame. So

(44:41):
let's revisit, shall we what these guys said about Jadarian Price.
We'll start with if we can start with Steve Pealozolo,
can we do that? And absolutely here is Steve Pealosolo
talking about Notre Dame running back Jadarian Price, who ended
up being Seattle's first round selection.

Speaker 14 (44:57):
Yeah, I think I think he's a second rounder. I mean,
if you look at him, he's a good player. He's
got some burst, you know, I think he's good up
to twenty yards. I think he's got some questions as
far as overall past game goes. But even you know
a couple of years ago when when Ken Walker and
Breece Hall went early second round, they felt like better
prospects than Price. You know, those were the top two
running backs off the board that year. Of course, in

(45:20):
recent years we've had Djon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs, We've had
a few more of these, you know, Ashton genties, a
few more of these clean first round types. I think
Price feels more like in a normal year, I think
he's like running back five to six, maybe seven, you know,
in a in a deeper year, and he's gonna and
he's running back too. For a lot of people, I
think that ends up being the second round. If a

(45:40):
team has a desperate need, maybe they end up taking them,
you know, high second or you know, I know, Seattle
gets mocked, uh you know for him and at thirty two.
I don't know if I see that happening necessarily with
their switch two draft picks. Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't do it,
but yeah, they feel much better take it. If they
could trade down pick up an extra couple picks, they'd
feel much better about taking them. With so few kicks,

(46:01):
you don't want to use one of them on a
running back. But I think he's a mid second round
type of player overall.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
God, that is that is crazy foreshadowing? Interesting, Huh if
you get past the first forty five seconds of what
he said, because you know, I'm running back five or
six in a normal draft, and yeah, this isn't a
strong draft for running backs. We all get that. Yeah,
but if you get past that part of it and
go down to what he said at the end, like

(46:27):
I see Seattle taking him, but can you play like
the last twenty second? Yeah, hold on, let me find
it really quickkay, Yeah, because I thought, because it's exactly
what ended up playing out. Not only did they take him,
but they did want to move down uh in the
in the process too, which is really kind of I mean,
the foreshadowing there is nuts, because I think that's exactly
what Schnyder was kind of telling us last night is

(46:48):
what they wanted to see happen, and and you know,
unfortunately didn't happen. This is listen again closely to Palozzolo
and understand this is pretty much how it should have
or they wanted it to play out last night.

Speaker 14 (47:00):
But yeah, they feel much better take you if they
can trade down, pick up an extra couple picks. They
feel at much better about taking them. With so few kicks,
you don't want to use one of them on a
running back. But I think he's a mid second round
type of player overall.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
Wow, I think that's exactly what it took place. Yeah,
they wanted him, but they wanted him out of the
first round, right, and that didn't happen. That's that's crazy,
all right, that's Steve pell As all let's get our guy.
Great co sell, NFL Films, ESPN Matchup Show, also part
of the thirty third team with our own Hugh Millin

(47:32):
his thoughts on Jadarian.

Speaker 15 (47:34):
Price, Jadarian Price, I mean he's clearly a good prospect.
I mean, let's let's understand that. You know, he's obviously
he spent two years being a quote unquote backup, you know,
but he's a solid prospect. I think he's got a
strong traits profile. He's got size, he's decisive, he's got burst,
he's got toughness. I think some NFL teams will believe

(47:58):
that he can be a feature back, although that term
is very team and scheme specific. I mean, I almost
go back a number of years to when kyn Williams
came out of Notre Dame. Again, we're in the Notre
Dame mode here apparently, and no one saw him as
a true feature back. And obviously you know him well
being in your division. But two years ago he had
over three hundred carries. This year he was close. So

(48:21):
I think it always comes down to team and scheme.
Price is not you know, a loose hipped guy. He's
probably a little stiff, but he's got very quick feed.
He can make those kind of sharp, controlled cuts. I
wouldn't call him a true home run hitter, but he
does have enough accelerating speed at times to run away
from second and third level defenders. I think he's a

(48:44):
strong prospect. He's certainly competitively tough, and I think that
that's what really stands out, and I think that's what
would stand out to the Seahawks.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
There you go, so Cosell higher on him than Paalozolo
very high on him. So from kind of ranking, it
rang one, cos L two, Palosolo three. But Palosol was
fine with him. He just didn't think he was a
first round talent, right, I think is especially I.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Think that the Seahawks just thought they could get him
in the second.

Speaker 1 (49:14):
I think, yeah, well they and they thought that not
only could they get him in the second, they thought
they could trade out of the first, right, and that
and that's why again we go back to last night.
It's it was. It was just a strange kind of
vibe in that regard because I think that that's Listen,
you have goals going into a draft, and it doesn't
mean you didn't succeed. It doesn't mean you didn't get
the best player or the player that you wanted. There's

(49:35):
two ways to look at it. Did you get the
player who wanted? Okay, yes, did you get him when
you wanted?

Speaker 10 (49:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Right, That's that's probably the best way to look at him.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
And everyone's kind of obsessed with value too, like you
want to try and get him in a spot where
you feel like you got to steal.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
This quote unquote.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Oh yeah, and John Schneider is like a competitive guy,
right this this is his time to like perform and
like and he doesn't feel like he did it as
well as he possibly could.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
That's where that comes from, you know.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
And and I think, yeah, like you said, the value,
and you know, who determines what the value is right
right now? Usually what determines value is the market. And
in this case, they would have you know, like, I've
had to try to sell a house before and I
couldn't sell the damn thing. It took me a while, right, Like,
that does happen. They wanted to sell that thirty second

(50:25):
pick and they weren't able to do it, and that
I think is where the frustration came in. But they
get running back one and they address the biggest need
on the football team with the departure of Ken Walker.
And I think that's the most important part of it
is that they got the guy and the position filled
that they needed to get done at the top of
the list. Now you can worry about cornerbacks or edge

(50:46):
rushers and those types of things. You know, we went
through the whole roster yesterday. In terms of the number
of players that they had. The thinnest position is cornerback.
They've just got five guys there or six and it's
and it's and you know if Pritchet makes or is
able to make a step and take a step up.
As in terms of the play they have five they
have Iggy Witherspoon, Pritchett, Job and Gene Charles. Like they

(51:09):
have five cornerbacks on the roster right now, Like they
need to add to that room. That's got to be
that has got to be a priority. In terms of
edge guys, they've got roughly seven depending on where you
want to put different guys. The way they list the
linebackers is kind of you got to decipher through it.
But they need to get some some value there. But
to get you know, to add to the room. Because

(51:31):
again going into yesterday, here was the running back room.
It was George Lane, Jacartia Wright, cam Acres, Emmanuel Wilson,
Zach Sharboney and Kenny McIntosh. Here's the thing. Kenny McIntosh,
Zach Sharboney, Jacartia Wright all coming off season ending injuries.
So basically, Emmanuel Wilson, cam Acres, George o'lannie, you're only

(51:57):
three healthy running backs heading into the summer. So they
added to that, they did. They that's so to me,
it's a home run. To me, it's an absolute, unequivocal
home run that they get this guy. I just think
that they wanted to get into one days, two day,
two tonight, sixty four ninety six.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
I just think it makes this day so much more
interesting to see what kind of wheeling and dealing they might.

Speaker 1 (52:20):
Do and important as well, like a really important day.
All right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. Danny
O'Neill will join us. We've got a lot of stuff
to discuss. We've got some football draft, maybe some mariners
to get to as well, all of that coming up.
I think we got to get into the Rassini stuff too.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
It just keeps going.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
Did people see the people? Did you guys both see
the vaible stuff yesterday?

Speaker 15 (52:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (52:41):
God, we used to joke about. We used to always
joke about how Pete Carroll would say a lot of
words and he would say nothing. Oh yeah, like he
was the man. And I give it. This isn't a criticism,
Like if you can do that, you're a master. Yeah,
that's a masterclass. Lots of words.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
Nothing said words out.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Abel said a lot of words yesterday and none of
them were None of them were good, Uh, outside of
the fact that you just threw her under the bush,
which was pretty classless. All right, so we'll talk about that, Danny,
as well as the draft coming up next.

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Speaker 10 (53:41):
Now here's he in with Danny O'Neill.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
All right, Danny O'Neil joins us. Here we go. It
is day two of the NFL drafts. Danny, we missed
you here yesterday. Buddy, we missed you. We missed you.

Speaker 13 (53:54):
Would say you missed me?

Speaker 7 (53:56):
Uh you missed me?

Speaker 13 (53:58):
My loud cackle, annoying.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
No, no, no, no, no, well I missed Here's here's
why I would miss you. Because we had this conversation
with Ross Tucker earlier. I I didn't necessarily like competing
with people. I really liked and respected. You would fall
into that category. Jess would fall into that category. But see,
now you're kind of on our team, so yes, I
would miss you in that regard.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
Okay, heart, Somehow.

Speaker 13 (54:27):
Somehow I appreciate that. I appreciate that you and.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
They feed us well here, they treat us well. I'll
tell you the Seahawks, man, I'm just gonna you know
what's funny with the stuff going on. Have you have
you been catching up with the stuff in Portland with
with the new ownership here.

Speaker 13 (54:43):
Yeah, man, it sounds like they've got Il Chipo in control.
Comes all of a sudden, He's like, you're gonna check
out of your hotel early. You're not traveling, and by
the way, you better make sure that you're not keeping
any of those towels from the hotels because I'm not
paying any extra.

Speaker 1 (55:00):
Yeah. Tom Dundon is indeed, there's L Chapo and there's
El Chiapo, and that's l Chiapo down there, and they Yeah,
I bring that up because it's interesting, same ownership group
for the Seahawks and the Trailblazers for all those years
under Paul Allen and later you know, under the watchful
eye of Jodie Allen. Nothing was ever done cheaply really
for the most part, especially with the football team, and

(55:23):
now it's all cheap with the Blazers, and yeah, up here,
they just treat the media so well, like we're set up, well,
we got a perfect place to do our jobs and
bring everybody to the draft coverage, and then they feed
us like kings. It's just it's a spectacular setup. And
hopefully whoever buys the Seahawks keeps up that same standard
that Paul Allen set for so many years. Not necessarily
feeding us, that's obviously not a huge thing, but just

(55:44):
how they how they treat everything and go about their business.
Danie O'Neill joining us, all right, you wrote about it today.
The running back position. Our friend John Schneider loves him
some running backs, doesn't he.

Speaker 13 (55:56):
He does, and it is a trait that I think
runs through his tenure. I used to wonder how much
of it tied to Pete Pete. Pete values running backs
as well, but I think this selection kind of emphasizes
that's that's John Steel too. And this is now it's
the sixth time they've taken a running back in the

(56:16):
first three rounds. It's the second time it's been in
the first round, and that is that it's tied for
the highest number of any draft picks of any team.
The Rams have also taken six in the first three
rounds over the past seventeen years. But Seattle's got two
first rounders, and it's very much against the grain of

(56:39):
the analytically minded. And I used to complain about it,
and I'll just now admit they probably know something I
don't know, or I'm not as smart as I think
I am when it comes to positional value. Because clearly
the Seahawks are doing something right, and their insistence or
desire to draft running backs that the very least isn't
keeping them from being one of the most consistently successful

(57:01):
teams in the league.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
You got a quote in your callum today that I
laughed for a couple of reasons. One Gouy named Derek
Clausen of the Athletics says, quote that just seems like
bad operating procedure. Well, listen, if anybody knows about bad
operating procedure right now, be the Athletic. But we'll just
leave that little well, we'll let that one slide. Well, well,
we'll get to that. We'll get to that before we're done, sir,

(57:25):
we'll get to bad operating procedure. Listen, we love our
friends at the Athletic but I we choose your words carefully.
These days people like just chuish your words carefully.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
Well.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
One of the things we talked about yesterday THO Daddy
in our post show with Hugh and Rob rang and
myself and then we you know, we're kind of checking
around talking to some other media members up there, and
you know, most of us have covered almost I mean
a good portion of the people up in that room.
It's crazy, have covered almost every John Schneider draft since
twenty ten. He came into the room and he was
he was his normal effusive self and neither way and

(58:03):
Mike McDonald is a little more subdued anyway. But they
just kind of looked, I don't want to say defeated,
but disappointed, I guess, and I and we kind of
came to the conclusion of consensus among many of us
that they were disappointed not in the player. They got
the player they probably wanted, and they obviously they got
running back number two, but they addressed in need, right,

(58:25):
they addressed that need. They filled the biggest hole on
their roster with Kenneth Walker's departure, the other ones on defense,
you can all there's all people who can slide into
those positions, but they stopped that. But they didn't move down,
which Schnyder said before the draft and four times yesterday
in the post first round news conference. They wanted to
move down, they were unable to do so they did

(58:45):
accomplish that to cumulate more picks. So was it a
win or was it just kind of a push yesterday
what they were able to do.

Speaker 13 (58:52):
I would I would evaluate it as a push that
that they the way things unfolded and the trades that
happened in front of them, that they didn't get the
opportunity to move back like they would have preferred. But
the one thing I would I would say about reading
Schneider's body language is there we got very accustomed to

(59:13):
the John and Pete Carol and the Schneid, the comedy
act that they had, and John and Mike McDonald have
their own rapport going back and forth. But I think
that I think that they're trying to figure out how
are they going to message and what is their public
presence going to be Like in the wake of going

(59:35):
to the Super Bowl. It's different. So I agree with you.
I clearly John would always prefer to move back, but
I think that you're seeing a little bit more of
a reserved approach. I wouldn't be surprised if we see
more examples of that over the next few months, as
they the question of how you defend a title or

(59:56):
how you get back to the mountaintop. It's a different
process than getting there the first time. There has to
be You've got to keep guys motivated, you have to
fight against everybody wanting their share of the spoils from victory,
and you have to figure out how to get the
guys that are coming in to believe that they can
compete and surpass the guys that have won, the kind

(01:00:19):
of the dominant alpha males that are there, the guys
that have won the title. But I would evaluate it
as a push. To answer your question, I don't think
they were bummed, but they wished it had gone differently.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I think they just wish they would have got the
more picks, especially for day three. We went through Day three,
you know day three picks under John Schnader before and
I mean the absolute damage he has done, you know,
in Day three is just remarkable, right, I mean, it's
just what he's done over the years. It's crazy, you know,
I'm thinking back. I don't know how to phrase it.

(01:00:50):
What do you think they learned from winning the Super
Bowl in twenty thirteen going in to the twenty fourteen draft?
And I say it from this standpoint, they were able
to trade thirty two that year. They traded the thirty
second pick to Minnesota. Yeah, then they traded down again.
They ended up with Paul Richardson. Really, that draft didn't
produce a ton for them. They got Justin britt solid player,
Paul Richardson didn't turn out what they wanted. Marsh was okay,

(01:01:14):
Kevin Norwold know Kevin Peter Lewis solid player elsewhere, not
so much here. And then a bunch of guys that
never played a snap. So what do you think they
learned from Because you just said I think it's interesting,
what do you think they learned from twenty they being
John and his staff learned from winning it in twenty
thirteen into the twenty fourteen draft.

Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
Well, one of the things that they definitely learned was
the importance of building some continuity along the offensive line.
When Seattle won the Super Bowl the first time in
twenty thirteen, they had one of the higher paid offensive lines,
and they continued to draft players on the offensive line.
They didn't pay to keep guys, they let when guys

(01:01:54):
came free agents, they let him walk. And the rationale
that they had at the time was, really, you have
to be a superstar player for us to extend you,
and if not, we're going to get younger and we're gonna,
we're gonna, we're gonna take the short term step back
comes from lacking continuity or from going with the younger
player to see if the next guy we get there

(01:02:15):
can be a real star. I think you'll see a
different approach this time when it comes to retaining the
offensive line. When it when it comes to the draft,
clearly there is a belief that you've got to keep
running backstocked and that that you don't don't make do
don't figure that that's something you can find later in
the draft. That the resolution out of it and not

(01:02:38):
paying Kenneth Walker but drafting a running back in the
first round believes that they believe in young legs. And
and then I think the third thing and this we
don't really have an indication of it yet. I think
that there was a belief or a conclusion coming out
of that that of all the great things, that Pete
Carroll's sort of unwavering belief than guys, and he wanted

(01:03:02):
individuals to be themselves and he would manage the personalities,
but he wanted guys to be very, very confident and
feel that they were possible of anything. I think there's
going to be the question of how do you how
do you manage is that sort of messaging? Does that
make it harder once you experience success, because people want

(01:03:22):
to hold that. The year after they won the Super Bowl,
Marshaun held out, he didn't miss any games, but he
was there for the start of training camp. The next year,
Cam Chancellor holds out he missed two games. And I
stopped short of saying that was where sort of Seattle's
dynasty or their chance that a dynasty ended. I know
a lot of people think that between that and the handoff,

(01:03:45):
the Seahawks bounced back and made the playoffs that year,
but you did see individual agendas and then specifically with
Russ and I don't know if there's any coach that
could have kept Russ from from kind of believing that
he needed to be the central character. But I think
that we'll see a different management style this time in

(01:04:06):
terms of how they message to players and how they talk.
You're already hearing it. The emphasis on culture and team
and who they are.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Yeah, there's no doubt. And listen, Danny, I think the
holdouts are the key. I didn't even think about that.
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Speaker 10 (01:04:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
Have the holdouts were the thing?

Speaker 10 (01:04:48):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
That's that's when you think back the beginning of the end,
among other things, probably was the holdouts. Probably was what
was going on with god if Yeah, Marshawn doing Marshawn thing.
Earl's remember Earl just standing there, not he was holding in,
not holding out, you know, like just not doing. And
then yeah, and then the two the two games that

(01:05:12):
that Cam missed. You lost a game in Saint Louis
because your backup wasn't good enough on a on a
last second play, and then you go and get beat
by Green Bay the next week you're zing too, and
you don't have home field advantage in the playoffs like
that was. I think they've gotten ahead of that, you know.
I think I think that's one thing we've seen. They've
gotten ahead of that. Right With contracts, you know, They've

(01:05:34):
they've got JSN under under a contract. They're gonna they
Witherspoon's gonna get done as well with the with the
fifth years, you know, and all that stuff. I think
they've gotten ahead of all that stuff. I think they
have learned and figured that out, and that's they're not
gonna make those mistakes again. And they locked up the
two offensive tackles and Lucas and cross A draft z Abel.
They'll probably do something with Sundell at some point, and
whether or not they figure out the right guard if

(01:05:56):
it needs an upgrade. But I think you're right. Those
those are the things that are very different the last
time they won.

Speaker 13 (01:06:02):
You also had the dynamic that when Seattle won the
Super Bowl, last time their quarterback is playing on a
third round pick deal. He was the biggest bargain in
pro sports. And one of the unique tensions that developed
was all the other players knew that the quarterback was
eventually going to get paid and that he was going
to last, and that that created tension because of sort

(01:06:26):
of the attitudes and the style that that defense played with.
Some of what we're talking about is unique to those
players on defense. And like I said, I'm not sure
if anybody was going to manage manage Richard Sherman or
be able to keep guys from from expressing themselves, but
Pete style specifically and the way he did encourage guys

(01:06:47):
to and and build them up, I think it did.
There was that The flip side of that was that
it's when you when you spend all that time saying
we want you to be yourself, we believe in you,
when that person says, okay, well I believe I'm worth
this much more, and it's hard to tell him no,
they're not gonna listen to no. So I would agree

(01:07:09):
with you. I think it already is different. But that's
gonna be one of the challenges that they have to
they have to manage because it is sort of a
different phase of team building. Now you're trying to sustain
rather than see if you can get over the hump.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
Dan and I'll joining us here. All right, let's get
to it. Huh, Like our friends the athletic I took
a cheap shot. I'm sorry. That was not nice in
me to do so. But I mean, god, uh so
does Vrabel? Does he? Does he hurt himself or Russini
or the whole situation every time he steps to the podium.

Speaker 13 (01:07:46):
Both and the the the entire issue. My perspective on
this is that people have affairs. These things happen in
course of life. They are very painful for the families involved.
They are largely personal. They're not they're not things that
generally enter sort of the the public sphere. In this case,

(01:08:11):
one of the people involved in what appears to be
an affair like that's that's all the appearances we have
now is it's very specifically forbidden in terms of her profession.
For a reporter to have a romantic relationship with a
source is a clear that's a bright red line. In general,

(01:08:31):
reporters are not supposed to have their coverage is not
supposed to be influenced by their personal feelings about someone
and be friends or go to bat or someone. That
the idea of it being a romantic relationship makes that
much more clear cut. I got that is a bright
red line. There are other red lines that other insiders

(01:08:53):
have crossed in my opinion, Adam Schefter emailing the president
of an NFL team and giving him a chance to
review stories. But this is this is a specific like
that was a breach of a professional code of conduct
for Rabel. For Rabel, it's it doesn't it's not really
a professional thing, or it didn't start out as a
professional thing. In my opinion, that you could make the

(01:09:16):
argument that it has an impact because he's if he
was potentially giving information to a reporter, but coaches and
gms give information to reporters all the time, Like that's
not contingent upon a romantic relationship. In my mind, at
the beginning, for Rabel, it is a personal thing. When
he denied and called it laughable to The New York

(01:09:37):
Post before the first batch of pictures were published. He's
kind of putting himself out there of saying he's denied.
He's saying it's not happened. And then when he got
up and talked about it the first time, it became
very clear that he had put himself in a very
difficult spot because if he can't just say, hey, that's

(01:09:59):
a personal thing, you can can't talk about it because
it's like, well, a week ago, you told those guys
that it was laughable. Is it still lappable or not?
And so at that point I think it started. And
now clearly it is a professional issue for him because
he's missing the third day of the draft to go
to counseling, and he's not saying what happened. And look,

(01:10:20):
I don't I'm not his boss. I don't I don't
have any understand I don't have any strong feelings about
whether this will challenge his ability to relate to players
or whether they'll take him less. Here. My sense is
is that everybody that plays for him understands that this
is his own thing he's dealing with, and it is
a personal matter. But the way the Patriots and Rabel

(01:10:42):
have handled this is they took it once the once,
once the photos were published, once that happened, they basically
made it into a professional issue for their coach, to
the point where it's he not only looks really bad,
but now you have people debating or questioning whether he

(01:11:02):
can still coach, which to me, it's it's just everybody.
Everybody looks terrible in this situation, which is maybe how
everybody should look given what's happened.

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
I think that's probably it, right, Like there's nobody should
look good here, you know, with uh, there's and for
people like listen, we always joke around Danny. I mean you, you,
for however many years, worked as wait for it, a
professional print journalist for the Seattle Times. You had a
couple of different beats over the years. You you had
to uphold a certain standard with the newspaper of record

(01:11:34):
in the state of Washington, and and there's certain things
you do and you, like you said it. The lines
have been blurred, There's no doubt the lines have been
blurred a lot over the years. And so we're kind
of in a different spot. I mean, I I remember
being I still critical, not just because he's Howard's kid.
But Jordan Schultz is a so called insider. He's out

(01:11:56):
there trying to break news all the time. And for
those who don't know how he operates, it's not sleeping
with somebody, but he has famously he basically bribes people.
He's like, Hey, I got this great penthouse apartment in
New York. You can come stay here with your wife
or your girlfriend or whoever. Different things like that. I mean,
he uses monetary means to gain information and to buy

(01:12:17):
friendships and to buy relationships. I don't know how much
different that is than sleeping with somebody, you know, or
having an affair with somebody. It's it's greasy, you know.
And I see Albert Breer write a story today. He's
got inside access to the Rams and he's spinning their
story how they want him to spin it. That nothing
to see here. Mcveigh's on board with ty Simpson really
doesn't appear that way, right, Like, why do I Why

(01:12:41):
am I believing you?

Speaker 10 (01:12:42):
Know?

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Why do I believe you? I mean, I know you're
not You're probably not sleeping with them, But I mean,
why am I believing you?

Speaker 16 (01:12:46):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I think it's brought the whole insider world into question.
To be honest with you, it should.

Speaker 13 (01:12:53):
The insider world is entirely built around personal relationships and
wink and nod or arrangements about how information is parceled out.
It is a very uninteresting part of the business for me.
I think it is a very slimy business. And I

(01:13:13):
think there are constantly deals that are being made between
people or the reporter is so housebroken like a trained dog,
that they know what they're not supposed to report. They
know what food is for them and what they have
to leave. But it's all rooted in personal relationships. And
Diana Rossini clearly has a personal relationship that was at

(01:13:35):
a different dimension, but it's a personal relationship with a
source and that sort of thing. There are supposed to
be bright red lines and those have evaporated for the
people that work in those industries. And I would just say,
here are the rules to.

Speaker 17 (01:13:51):
Crisis management that I would say, Number one, never deny
something you know to have occurred, Like, don't ever come
out if somebody is asking you about something that you
know has happened and you're a public figure, you have
to not comment.

Speaker 13 (01:14:06):
You can't you cannot lie because that lie could end
up becoming way worse than anything that you've done. Number two,
do not take an L on behalf of someone else
already taking an L. If somebody that you've had a
relationship is running into a professional problem because she's a
reporter and pictures have come out, don't then hop on
the grenade because it's gonna end up blowing you up too.

(01:14:26):
And then the third thing is, don't call press conferences
that sound like apology press conferences if you're not going
to apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, yeah, that the denial and the laughable and all
that stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:14:39):
I mean, I'm gonna deny this and not give it oxygen.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Yeah that didn't Maybe.

Speaker 13 (01:14:49):
Maybe maybe everybody just deserves to look bad.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
I think so, Right, I think so. And I think
it goes back to what we just said. It's it's
puts a lot of things into question of in terms
of so called insiders, right, just puts a lot of
things into question. And it's unfortunate because a lot of
people have there to probably do it, do it, do
it the right way, and there's others that haven't. And
I'm like a lot of us Now we're gonna take

(01:15:13):
a lot of things with a grain of salt right,
and you know along the way.

Speaker 13 (01:15:17):
The thing that I do like is this description that
Sean McVay was acting last night when he pretended to
be super pissed that they selected Ty Stimpson. Because what
I would know is that if you're going to draft
a quarterback in the first round, like, one of the
best things you can do for that player's confidence is
have his new coach go pretend that he absolutely hates
the fact that you can know, like, that's the way

(01:15:39):
to get that relationship off on the right foot.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
That was nothing to see here. Mcphay's on board. Okay,
really he's on board.

Speaker 13 (01:15:48):
Really, I'm pretending God bad, so Matthew Stafford will hate
less Snead instead of me, unless, of course, Simpson turns
out to be a bust, and then everybody will just
think it's Less Sneed's pick, and I'll be off the hook.

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So good, so good. Tell people the dang apostrophe, my friend.

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It will include a picture of Sean McVay staring daggers
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You're the best. I'll talk to you next Friday. Man,
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will take a break. Come back, by the way. Shadarian
Price joins the show, coming up at two point thirty
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I'm doing Wellian, how are you?

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I'll take people behind the scenes, sir. First, second, jess
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It's scramble city. Once they went to the media room.

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Again, we're massively thankful for the CEO, to the PR
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(01:17:38):
we're we're all dialed in connected. Hugh Millen is here.
I'm assuming that's his computer. Yes, because it's massively large
and it's got a huge it's got a huge screen.
So we're good. Hang on, eders, say something for a second.

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What's going on?

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I'm trading headsets with Jess.

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Okay, can you still hear me?

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As she goes?

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We are all good. We just got there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
We go pollination of headphones, tested the waters and made
it on.

Speaker 1 (01:18:05):
What we're doing is we're making sure that when we
have our esteemed analyst, Rob Range, will join us here
in about ten minutes time. We have Rob here and
then we have Hugh mill in here where everything's dialed in,
buttoned down, Yes and good to go.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
Yes, okay, that's what.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
We did it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
Side big side for me and.

Speaker 5 (01:18:24):
I have a nice surprise. We should have a better
viewing situation once we get to the afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
Oh good, let's wait till three o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:18:31):
We will okay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Okay, I was going to hit on something and I'm
just trying to get my bearing straight here for a second. Bear, Oh,
Jidarian Price is going to join us at two thirty.
Let's go on, So we're gonna check it out. Hey,
you know what I want to do at some point too,
And maybe we'll see when he wants to come on.
Maybe we do it later. We had you guys will
love this. So last night we finished, we finished our

(01:18:56):
draft coverage. We got off the air at nine to ten,
and much like Jackson Andrews who decided to might.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Be the only one that didn't get invited to go out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:04):
You were at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.

Speaker 1 (01:19:06):
First of all, you were gone before we were even
I bounced.

Speaker 2 (01:19:09):
I bounced quick.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
You have a long you have a longer drive, Yes,
Jackson in and uh and Andrews had a due date
last night.

Speaker 4 (01:19:16):
Date.

Speaker 2 (01:19:17):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:19:18):
Yeah, so which is cool.

Speaker 2 (01:19:20):
Probably lots of soccer talk, Oh god.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
How much? How much of the conversation was Premier League?

Speaker 4 (01:19:24):
Actually none? No soccer whatsoever? Actually? Really yeah, pretty surprising.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
Well I ended up, uh, he was, He and I
were talking and we ended up going to Dnos across
the street here and my son joined us. He was
coming back. He's in EMT school right now.

Speaker 4 (01:19:42):
Wow, you guys are lucky and getting at key for appearance.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
I know, Keifer appearance is weird. He was driving down
four oh five from Kirkland from the Lake Washington Institute
of Technology or whatever they do the e M T
training and class at. So he's driving home and I said, hey,
swing by. So he stopped by real quick to see
you and my and I got a tutorial on why
arm length means it makes a difference in the draft.

(01:20:07):
Not only a tutorial, but I also got like hands
on tutorial by these two guys. So what you were getting.
So we're in dinos and we're doing arm length things,
if we're doing a pressure thing, if we're doing this,
and we're doing and you know what I because Rob
was talking about it yesterday and as Hugh with different

(01:20:28):
guys with arm length right and I've always been listening
most of us. They're doing what I'm doing right now,
putting a headset on just bs and talking, you know
about the draft. We don't know what the hell we're
talking about. And I hear like Rob's goes, oh, guy's
got thirty one and five eighths length arm who cares
like it's like an inch shorter than it should be.
Amazing what that inch means like, it's an amazing like

(01:20:50):
like in terms of reach for both mostly what rob
offensive lignment and cornerbacks. Right, Yeah, and so I've got
you and Keith for standing up in Dino's like holding
their arms out. Do this, do this. I'm getting pushed around,
beat up, abused. I'm hurting today.

Speaker 5 (01:21:07):
Actually, now, Iburandinos, it probably look like the regular crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:21:10):
Yeah, I kind of did. Actually, what's going on over there? Nothing,
just a little pass rush drill. We're just doing a
pass rush. But it is really amazing, Like Maya Noah
from Miami, the guy the tackle this gout literally shorter arms, right,
and Ross Tucker talked about us with us earlier, saying
he's got a bad back too, but the arm length
is a it's a concern and they're gonna probably move

(01:21:31):
him to guard and they were showing me why so
when you My point is this, when you hear about
arm length that one inch or half an inch, believe
it or not, through the demonstration, I'll ask you to
put a video together for us at some point it
means a ton, and it's why Pete Carroll for all
those years he wouldn't have a cornerback with arms that
were under a certain amount of like like thirty two

(01:21:52):
I think it was something like that inches. It makes
a massive difference. So yeah, while you guys were talking
World Cup or whatever, I got a tutorial on arm
length last night, excellent over a Georgetown tavern beer and
it was sensational. It was a great night for me.

Speaker 2 (01:22:07):
Very sounds really awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:22:09):
At one point, they both chastised me, are you watching, Yes,
I'm watching. Yes, I'm engaged.

Speaker 3 (01:22:13):
We gotta get a key for it to be our
offensive line analyst. We got a QB analyst and Hugh,
we need an offensive line analyst.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
Oh yeah, they were talking stuff way over my head
last time, going on none whatsoever. All right, two o'clock
hour is about done? Coming up in the three o'clock.
In the one o'clock hours, God, I'm gonna I'm gonna
figure out the three hour show. At some point, are
we still on for three hours today or we done
it too?

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
We are not done it too.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
We're on for three.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
We are on for three. You're welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Manian coming up in the two o'clock ere he could
be our third out. Rob Rang is here. He's gonna
join us in person for the next segment, and then
after that I'll get a chance to sit down with
Jadarian Price talk to the new Seahawk first round draft pick.
We'll do that at two thirty today. Try to squeeze
a couple of text messages in maybe along the way
as well. If you got a question for Rob as

(01:22:59):
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Draft, speaking of which rounds two and three, Day two
of the three day NFL Draft will commence at four o'clock.
We're two hours away. Seahawks holding two picks today, number
ninety six and number sixty four. So there you go.
We'll see if they remain with those picks or do
something else. Rob Rang and standing by. He'll join us
in just a couple of minutes, of course. Of Seahawks
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Speaker 12 (01:25:26):
The fact that Jeremiah loved quote unquote other Notre Dame
running back gets so much attention. I think that's one
of the reasons why people are sleeping a little bit
on Judeeri on Price like one of the real criticisms
that people have of him is the fact that he
supposedly wasn't very effective on third down. Well, that's that's
one of the things that Jeremiah Loved does exceptionally well.

(01:25:48):
I mean, he's getting comparisons to Alvin Kamaras and you
know and play in people like that. So, you know,
just because he is so good out of the backroom
as a receiver, j was the Notre Dame's primary cut
kickoff return kickoff returner throughout his college career, had three

(01:26:08):
returns for touchdowns over his career. Obviously, this is the
Seahawks team that prioritizes special teams play and Notre Dame,
Marcus Freeman's head coach is not going to put a
player back that they don't trust his hands. He just
didn't give very many opportunities on third down because that's
where Jeremiah Love was so special.

Speaker 10 (01:26:24):
So I just see.

Speaker 12 (01:26:26):
Jenderim Price is not having concerns on third down, and
I think that he's the most instinctive runner in this
draft class game, including Jeremiah Love. You know, we talked
often talked about how the Seahawks and John Schneiders if
they when most NFL teams are zigging that he'll zag.
That's kind of the way that Jenerim Price runs. He
just has an anticipation about him. He sees where defenders

(01:26:49):
are going and he is already making his cut to react.
And we talk so much about the outside zone that
you got to be able to plan you're put in
the ground and go downhill or cut back against the grain.
That's where this guy excels. I think he's going to
be a star in the NFL. I think that he
is one of only two along with Jeremiah Love, only

(01:27:10):
two backs that really deserve to be selected in the
first round. And if he is available at number three
to two overall, I think that he has a very
very good chance of being the Seattle selection.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
That was about a month ago. You nailed it, kind
of nailed it. Would be so humble he nailed.

Speaker 18 (01:27:30):
It well, you know, I'd like to see, let's see
how Day two goes. But it's funny. I've talked to
a couple of the Sea X Scouts here in the
last twenty four hours, you know, here at the Virginia
Mason Athletic Center and kind of just giving them some
credit for winning the Super Bowl and It's funny they
kind of, you know, begrudgingly kind of you know, give

(01:27:52):
you a fist puff and say all right, let's run
it back. And that's the way I feel like is like,
you know, this is my job. I am angry when
I don't get selections right because I do dedicate Lord
knows basically all year long to evaluating these prospects and
trying to, you know, figure out who's the best fit.
And to me, Jadarien Price just made so much sense

(01:28:14):
for the Seahawks in terms of you lose the running
back canth walk of the third of course the Ranning
Super Bowl MVP in free agency, and so you have
to replace him. With the injury to Zach Sharpenny just
makes it the situation that much more. I don't know
if I would say dire, because I would agree with
what John Schneider said. You can find running backs just

(01:28:36):
in this classing. It was a much smaller pool to
select from than normal, and so if you were going
to get a running back that truly can tilt the
field in your favor, then you had to be willing
to invest a selection in it. So I think that
the Seahawks fans that maybe are grumbling because some other
prognosticators out there say that this is not a great

(01:28:58):
value selection. I would disagree with that, and I think
that they are going to be very satisfied when they
see what price can do for the SEAHAWKXY this upcome
and season.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I just go back again. It's like a month and
a half ago or whenever. When when was that? Actually, Anders,
do you have a date on that when we did
that tape?

Speaker 7 (01:29:12):
That way?

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
I have to double check the actual date that right,
it was I think early or late March actually, so
I think almost exactly a month ago.

Speaker 1 (01:29:20):
About a month ago, and we were talking because we
were doing our pre draft conversations with you with great
co Salesteve Palozzolo and and you know, and we talked running.
We went position group by position group, and you nailed it.
And so this isn't you saying, and you know after
the fact, Hey, Seattle picked a guy that had a
first round grade. You said back in March, this is
a guy that would have a first round grade. He

(01:29:40):
if there, he's there at thirty two, it would make
sense for Seattle to take him and he will be
a star. We'll see if he's going to be a star.
But you nailed that pick, and so good for you.
And I just bring that up because again there's people
that are like, you know, Hindsight's twenty twenty. Sure you
called it back then, So well done. That's give yourself
some credit. That was that was that was well done.
You also, as you mentioned, you talked to a few
Seahawks guys. You might know a little bit how their

(01:30:02):
inner workings are. This was one where helped me out.
We talked about it last night. I think they got
the player they wanted. Yeah, maybe not where they wanted.

Speaker 18 (01:30:12):
Yeah, I think that with Is that fair?

Speaker 7 (01:30:14):
Yeah? I think fair?

Speaker 16 (01:30:16):
Uh.

Speaker 18 (01:30:16):
You know, the reality is the Seahawks have the NFL's
least amount of draft picks this year, with only four selections,
and you know, I think that if you look at
who the teams that are selecting next, it was very
unlikely that they were going to go running back. So sure,
you know, I think the Seattle would have loved to
have traded back a few spots and still be able

(01:30:37):
to get this player and give themselves another pick. We
we all know the success that the John Schneider and
his scouts have had. On Day three of the draft,
I think that they wanted to have some extra selections. Uh,
you know, But at the same time, again, I think
that you had to get the running back before you
could worry about anything else.

Speaker 1 (01:30:55):
Rob Rang joining us here the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
All right, let's look around. We'll talk about the rest
of the first round in the NFL in a second.
Let's let's look ahead to what Seattle has lying in
front of it for the next two days. Today they
have two picks, a second round pick and a third
round pick. Tomorrow they have one pick, and that would
be a sixth round pick, so three picks left to go.

(01:31:19):
Let's start first with this. How much value is there
in the final pick of the second round? Is that
even worth thinking about moving or do you think they're
going to be able to find a guy there corner
edge that makes more sense than trying to trade down.

Speaker 18 (01:31:31):
Well, of course, it remains me seeing who's gonna be available.
We're thirty two picks away, but I anticipate that there
is going to be a starting caliber cornerback and a
starting caliber edge rusher that is available at that spot,
and so I think it makes a novel of sense.
Just a stick and pick. To me, those are the
three biggest positions of concern running back, edge rusher, cornerback.

(01:31:51):
If you want to throw safety in there as well,
I get that. And so you know, I think that
Seattle again could stay and just make force elections this
year and feel pretty darn good about it as long
as they are able to grab players at a point
of value. Now, again, there's some out there who's argued
that Generian Price was not that a number thirty two overall.

Speaker 7 (01:32:12):
I disagree.

Speaker 18 (01:32:14):
I think that the running back depth drops off significantly,
and I would argue that all the way I would
say it is that of the next thirty two players
on my personal board, I have zero running backs among
the next thirty two best players, Wow, I have seven
people only only to have been taken. Only two have
been taken. I have seven corners, I have seven edge rushers.

(01:32:36):
I only have what two quarterbacks? I have two centers.
I mean, it's just that this draft is every draft
is unique. Every draft has certain positional position strengths and weaknesses.
But again, one of the real strengths of this particular
draft is corner and edge depth. And so that's why
I think that sew played the hand that they were

(01:32:57):
dealt beautifully. They got their running back early on, recognizing
the depth that corner and edge rusher was going to
carry all throughout Day two and so take advantage of that.

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We love those guy. To Calson last week was absolutely outstanding.
All right. Uh, if they only end up with the
four picks with where their roster is set and right now,
I mean, like you said, stick and pick, stick and
pick kind of feels like the most likely scenario right
in the second round. Maybe you move the third round

(01:33:55):
pick depending ones that one makes more sense to move,
you know. Again, let's just like knowing the depth of
the draft, not even position wise, does it make more
sense to move the three than it does the two.

Speaker 18 (01:34:07):
I think they actually would probably make more sense to
move the two just because of the fact that you know,
it's theoretically you're going to better players that they able
to sixty four than ninety six, where I think is fascinating.

Speaker 7 (01:34:17):
And this is where I.

Speaker 18 (01:34:18):
Really am curious to see if the Seahawks are willing
to do this, is if they're just willing to trade
some of the selections in next year's draft. And we've
talked about this, that the Seahawks are expected to get,
you know, four or five compensatory picks for the free
agent losses of Kant Walker, the third Wreek one, Kobe Bryant,
and Boy Mafe. Some are forecasting that seas are gonna

(01:34:41):
have twelve draft picks next year. Ian there is no
way that twelve rookies next year are going to make
this Seahawks roster. So there's going to be either trades
up next year by the Seahawks just to take full
advantage of their assets, or trade up this year. And
so that to me is what's going to be interesting.
And this show is how sick I am when I

(01:35:02):
said there for a couple of hours this morning waiting
to hop on and talk about this draft with you.
A sorry Ryan mock draft for next year from the
twenty twenty seven class, And I can't tell you that
watching some of the players that are going to be
available in twenty twenty seven, if they all come.

Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
Out early, as you know we're.

Speaker 18 (01:35:20):
Anticipating at this point, the twenty twenty seven draft is loaded.
So I certainly would understand why John Schneider and the
Seahawks would be a little hesitant to trade any of
their picks next year. I mean, there is just so
much more talent still weighing the weeds in college football level.
But if you want to win now, you know, then
I do think that the Seahawks it would make an

(01:35:40):
awful lot of sense to trade some of those draft
picks scheduled for next year to jump back into the
second or third rounds. To me, Ian, this is my
favorite day of this particular draft, because I think this
is kind of the golden zone. The player that's going
to get selected at number thirty three overall, in my opinion,
is not significantly better than the player that Sealle's likely

(01:36:01):
to select a number ninety six. Overall, there's just a
glut of players kind of in this middle. I only
had twelve players this entire draft I thought were clear
first round selections, and those were twelve. With the first
fourteen players selected this year, uh, you know, the thirty
two players that have come off the board so far,
we're all among my top forty overall ranked players this year.

(01:36:21):
I'm without trying to pat myself on the back too much,
I'm reading this board correctly, and I do believe that again,
Sealle's gonna, if not necessarily trade back from sixty four
or ninety six, but possibly use one of their twenty
twenty seven draft picks to get back into that sixty
four to ninety six Golden Zone era.

Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
Interesting. Okay, Rob Rank joining us Foxsports dot Com, Seahawks
dot Com, and of course our Draft Insider brought to
you by our good friends at Felisfellispizza dot com. Let's
look at the NFL first round overall. What's your just
your overriding theme of what happened yesterday?

Speaker 18 (01:36:58):
Well, again, you know, there's twelve players in the first
fourteen selections went off the board pretty darn quickly. One
of the exceptions was number thirteen overall Los Angeles Rams,
taking the quarterback Ty Simpson. We talked about that a
lot last night, but for those of you listening right now,
and thank you. As always Ian gets to say that,
and I want to say thank you also to everybody
listening or watching. You know, the selection of Ty Simpson

(01:37:22):
by the Los Angeles Rams to me just screams about
the you know, the potential that obviously Rams general manager
Less Sneed sees and Ty Simpson, but also perhaps a
little bit of the disconnect between the general manager Lessneed
and the head coach Sean McVay, because I think that
Sean McVay was kind of itching to find a player
that might be able to help the Rams immediately. So

(01:37:44):
that was definitely one of the massive storylines.

Speaker 1 (01:37:46):
Let me stop he there, because that's the one that
made that. Let's let's even if we just say that
everyone's on the same page. We had Ross talker on
earlier from NFL Player West with One Guy, and Ross
had a point that I think we've all thought about
and talked to, but we should discuss again two things.
One the Rams in this division. You could probably make
a pretty strong argument the two best teams in the

(01:38:07):
NFL last season were Seattle in la Ye, Like it's
it's like you're You're It's almost like you're playing in
the Big ten football like you're or the old SEC
when back when where the SEC used to be good
at football back in the day. But like the two
best teams are you and your neighbor, and they're a
heartbeat away from being the Super Bowl champions last year.
Seattle wins that they had a chance to pick a

(01:38:29):
guy or two that could help them today. Whether Ty
Simpson ends up being good or not, that's two or
three years down the road before we know that. But
today they could have made a guy, They could have
drafted a player that would have made Seattle a lot
more uncomfortable, the forty nine ers more uncomfortable, the Eagles,
the Bears go through the list, and they didn't. That's
what surprised me. Like, and if you're a veteran like

(01:38:52):
Ross mentioned. Ross says as a former player, if I'm
a veteran in that RAMS room, I'm like, what the
hell are we doing? Like, what are we doing?

Speaker 7 (01:38:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
So to me, that's a huge win for the rest
of the NFC.

Speaker 18 (01:39:01):
I one hundred percent agree with you, and I actually
argue that the San Fransco forty nine Ers may have
been the third best team in all of the NFL,
and especially considering all the injuries they had to deal with,
and they did the exact same thing essentially, and that
they they punted away their opportunity they trade out of
the first run entirely.

Speaker 7 (01:39:16):
So I think that the NFC West.

Speaker 18 (01:39:17):
In a way almost did the Seahawks a bit of
a favor, and I was not expecting that. Now, again,
you know s Imman Tysons and they wound up being
a great player for the Rams. Obviously having you know,
a successor for Matthew Stafford, it makes a lot of sense.
But yes, I really thought that the Rams had an
opportunity to narrow the gap between they and the Seahawks.
Ruben Bain, one of my favorite defensive defensive players in

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this entire draft class, was available there, Casey Concepcio, Makai Lemon,
two wide receivers. I think that really could have diversified
the Rams attack. We know how good Puka Nakua and
Devonte Adams are for the Rams, but both of them
struggle with durability, so it would have made some sense
for the Rams to, you know, just to fortify that
position rather than you know, building for the future.

Speaker 7 (01:40:02):
So that definitely surprised.

Speaker 1 (01:40:04):
Me, is that it is safe to say if I mean,
it seems obvious, but if they would if the Rams
would have added Ruby Bayn Junior, the edge rusher and
he's paired with Verse Fisk and that terrifying, Yeah, that
would have made them better. If they would have added
Kenyan Sadik, the tied down out of Oregon with how
Sean McVay likes to use that tight end. And again

(01:40:24):
Kolbe Parkinson, one of the nicest guys in the world.
He was just a guy here, looks like a lot
more than that in that Rams offense. What would Sadik
do in that offense? Well, yeah, or or you mentioned nothing.
I mean even if Caleb Banks on the defensive line
or McCAT Mikaila like, they could have added a lot
of guys that would have made them better.

Speaker 7 (01:40:41):
Yeah, no doubt about it.

Speaker 18 (01:40:43):
And one player that if you're going to roll the dice,
then one player that went a couple of selections later
that it is truly a roll the dice. But the
same time, if you hit on him, then it's a
it's a a lottery winner, and that being Caleb Banks,
a big defensive tackle that went to the Minnesota Vikings
five picklater. Now, Caleb Banks, I mean, he is a
guy that was off the field more than he was

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on the field. And I've had some comparisons and scouts
along the road that you know, said Malik McDowell, And
there's a reason why mclik McDowell went where he went.
I mean, then we could have anticipated that he was
going to have the atv accent that he wound up having.
All I know is that on tape he was the biggest,
most powerful, most athletic defensive tackle or among them that
I've ever seen. And that's what Kayleb Banks is as well.

(01:41:27):
So again if you hit on him. And the Minnesota
Vikings are fascinating in because everybody talks about the head coach,
Kevin o'connall and the genius that he is supposedly you know,
and I mean no disrespect, but obviously he let Sam
Darry leave the room, so there is some question of
him there. The fact that they also have the highest
paid defensive coordinator in the history of the NFL, and

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Brian Flores, And to me, this selection screams that Flores
has an awful lot of pull in Minneapolis because kayleb Banks,
if you hit on him, could be an absolute superstar,
and clearly Flores was pulling for him. Otherwise the Vikings
would not have made the selection of a player that
most people had in the late second to early third round.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
All right, what else? Who else? Or what else jumped
out at you?

Speaker 18 (01:42:14):
I'd like the aggression of the Kansas City Chiefs going
up to get Mansord Delaying at number six overall. They
had the ninth overall selection, and I think that they
read the board beautifully that there was no way that,
you know, the best cornerback in all of this draft
was going to last number nine overall. He would have

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been selected likely by either Washington or New Orleans those
next two selections. They go up there and they get him. Obviously,
the Chiefs lost, you know, the former Husky and Trent McDuffie,
we are trade to the Los Angeles Rams, the former
Cougar and Jalen Watson who signed to the Los Angeles
Rams and free agency, so they knew that they needed
a corner and then they come back and get a

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quality defensive tackle in Peter Woods at the late Porsche
of the first round as well, after a small trade
down so to me, then I thought that Brett Veach
and Andy Reid, of course did a terrific job of
kind of playing the board, reading the reading the tea leap,
so to speak, well, and getting players that are going
to help them, help Steve Spagnola as a defensive coordinator

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kind of build this defense into the future.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Let me throw a couple teams at you and get
your thoughts on them, just because I think it's important. Like, listen,
it's look around the NFC. We know there's not always
a complete repeat of teams in the postseason, but the
Bears appear on the up and come. The Eagles have
been good for a while. Let's just talk about those
two teams because we're just going through the standings. Outside
of the two teams the NFC West that both had

(01:43:40):
one more win than the Bears and the Eagles, they
were actually the second and third seeds in the NFC
last year season, Chicago and Philadelphia. How they do.

Speaker 18 (01:43:48):
I really like what both of them did, you know
with Let's go with the Eagles first, because you know,
obviously they are just two years away from their own
Super Bowl title. And you know it's been much talked
about the AJ Brown as likely played his last game
as a member.

Speaker 7 (01:44:03):
Of the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 18 (01:44:04):
So get yourself another wide receiver that Jalen Hurts can trust.
And McKay Lemon is that guy. I mean, he was
a Blittanikoff Award winner this last year. He is a
very different type of receiver than AJ Brown. AJ Brown
six two, two hundred and thirty pounds and just kind
of rag Doll's cornerbacks. Mackay Lemon is more five ten,
two hundred pounds, runs me a lot of Golden Tate,

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longtime Seahawk, and he is almost like a running back
after once he gets the ball in his hands, he
can be a return guy. And his ability to take
these shorter passes and then either make people miss or
knock them to the ground and run away from them.
I just think that he plays a very quarterback friendly

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type of style that is going to immediately make him
a friend of Jalen Hurts. And it felt like at
times there's almost adversarial between Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown.
So I think that that's a selection that makes sense
both from just the ex'es and o's, but also through
the just the intangibles that I think are help championship
teams you know, actually work, and so that one makes

(01:45:09):
a lot of sense for me for the Eagles and
in the Cleveland and the Chicago Bears. You know, of course,
Seyawk fans know all too well that they paid an
awful lot of money to bring Kobe Bryant to Soldier Field,
and they got one of my favorite players in this
entire draft class in Dylan Thinaman, the safety at number
twenty five overall, I thought that he was a steal
at that point in the draft. I think he should
have been a top twenty selection at worst. You know,

(01:45:32):
just the ball skills, the instincts, the speed, ran four
threes at the combine, So just kind of erasing all
of the criticism people had of him. I think people
kind of stereotyped him. I mean, the reality is is
that he's got a lighter complexion than what people are
expecting out of.

Speaker 7 (01:45:49):
A safety in today's NFL.

Speaker 18 (01:45:51):
And yet I know that he was a playmaker, whether
it be an Oregon or being a freshman All American
at Purdue with with six interceptions as a true freshman,
and to me, the guy's an absolute ballhawk. And I
think the Chicago needs to get a little bit more
of a pass rush and I think that they're gonna
likely do that in on date two of the draft here,
but get the ball hawking safety first. Just because that's

(01:46:13):
the way the board played out. I would argue the
edge rusher was a bigger area of concern, but again,
the depth at edge allowed the Bears to take advantage
of a star safety fall into their lap.

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
That's rob rang, all right, we'll tune your loose. You've
got to do four hours and twenty eighteen minutes or so.

Speaker 18 (01:46:31):
I'm looking at like Washington. I got a fish and
pull in the back of the car.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
So yeah, you go do that. You got no you
got work to do, buddy. You got a second and
third round to be great. And I'm watching Robb yesterday
as the first round is going, He's like he's firing
stuff out every how'd you like the shorter time? You
didn't like it?

Speaker 18 (01:46:44):
I did not like it made for great TV. I
mean it was NonStop drama. I love the entertainment aspect
of it. Ly, someone that had to write a story
for Fox dot com. Yeah, I mean wanting to be
a you know, somewhat articulate with you and Hugh last
night and then also writing you know, relatively intelligent blurbs
and grading each pick in eight minutes. That it was difficult,

(01:47:07):
but it was you know, I'm at my fighting wait,
so I was ready for.

Speaker 7 (01:47:11):
Yeah, you're ready for.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
You were ready to go? All right. Rob's back with
us on the air at seven tonight. But I believe,
just based on yesterday, that you'll be popping over here
with with Softy and Dick and Hew at some point
as well. But again seven to nine with us night,
and then Robin me tomorrow morning at nine am breakfast
with us for Day three the NFL Draft here on
KJAR and also on the iHeartRadio app. Thank you, my friend,
Thank you. That's Rob Rang. We'll come back. I can't

(01:47:33):
wait for this. The first round draft pick of the
Seattle Seahawks, Jajarian Price, is coming up next.

Speaker 8 (01:47:41):

Speaker 9 (01:47:43):
cors Life by R and R Foundation specialist the Queen
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three point three KJR fail.

Speaker 8 (01:48:04):
With you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
Normally would be going through text messages at four nine
four five one on the Tacoma Dodge text line at
this time, but we're awaiting a very important phone call
from a first round draft pick of the Hugh Millan
is here with me. How it happen? Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (01:48:21):
The important pick.

Speaker 1 (01:48:23):
You're pretty close.

Speaker 10 (01:48:24):
J D.

Speaker 1 (01:48:24):
Price, Yes, yes, Yes, that's that's the guy. We're gonna
hear from it in a second. Uh, just real quick thoughts
from you on on the pick yesterday.

Speaker 6 (01:48:33):
Well, I went and watched every single snap, or excuse me,
every single carry, every single touch, every time they threw
him the wall for the entire season, and there's a
lot to like on the tape. The dude's his his
lateral quickness. That that's his best attribute in my opinion.

(01:48:54):
His acceleration important is that for running back, it's almost
the most important thing. I mean, I think there's probably
a few like you know, one a's, one b's type
of thing. But your vision. You got to have a
sense of where the defense is flowing and where the
seams are opening up, but then as defenders flash on you,

(01:49:15):
you know, your body's going in a certain direction. Right,
Like let's say, you know, take an analog clock. You're
starting in the middle of an analog clock. Let's just
make this real simple. You're going straight north, you're at
You're going to twelve. That's where you think the hole
is going to go. But then then your vision says
it's at one or maybe one thirty or whatever. Can't

(01:49:35):
how quickly do you do you sense that your brain
is obviously processing what it sees, and then how fast
does that get to your feet? And can your feet
then you know, without having to slow down take a
lot of steps. Can you just quickly just change your
body's direction from going to twelve o'clock to one or
one thirty so that ability to control and then sometimes

(01:49:57):
you go, it's twelve o'clock and then it's one o'clock
or it might even be two. Like you're almost going straight sideways,
and then now you've got to go back to twelve o'clock.
From from that originally, you know, you're almost making the
I'm trying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
To think of a letter.

Speaker 6 (01:50:13):
It's not a letter, it's like like like a Charger's
lightning bolt. You know, if you can think of the
emblem on the chargers helmet like you got to run
like that, and guys who can do that, you know,
that's that's as good a skill set as any.

Speaker 1 (01:50:26):
Okay, So that that's that. That was the latter movement.

Speaker 7 (01:50:28):
What else the ladder?

Speaker 6 (01:50:29):
I think the acceleration. You know, his his percentiles in
the in the ten yard split, we we're kind of
lower half. He has a one point sixty one I
believe was the twenty eighth percentile. That's not what the
tape shows. And so I saw a better acceleration. I

(01:50:49):
saw his ability to cut back without having to slow down.
There's a there's maybe one or two times where I
would have given him a minus on on slowing down
and taking too long to get where.

Speaker 7 (01:51:00):
He needed to go.

Speaker 6 (01:51:01):
The vast majority of the time, when he saw where
he needed to go, it's just one cut and and
and uh and and there's a great change of direction.

Speaker 10 (01:51:11):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:51:11):
He's not not a terribly physical guy, you know, the
finish part of it. You know, he waged two or
three at the combine. He said he played at two five,
two eight. All those numbers are a little below the median,
but the that lateral quickness and the explosiveness is you know,
it's a fun tape to watch him.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
So I mean, and I mean, we're excited because we
have him on the air right now. Let's let's introduce
him properly. Go ahead, Anders with.

Speaker 16 (01:51:37):
The thirty second big In the twenty twenty six NFL Draft,
the Seattle Seahawks select.

Speaker 4 (01:51:43):
Jadarian Price, Notre Dame running.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
Back and obviously very exciting day for Jadarian Price, for
his family and for Seahawks fans as well. And he
joined us right now on the Beacon Plumbing hot line.
J This is ian Fanaca KJR along with former NFL
quarterback Hugh Millen, who's with me as well. How are
you doing today on the day after you become a

(01:52:08):
first round draft pick by the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. Okay, yes, sir,
how you how you feeling wild?

Speaker 16 (01:52:18):
I'm feeling good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
What walk us through yesterday? A little bit? The phone
call from John Schneider, the emotions you went through and
everything that took place yesterday.

Speaker 16 (01:52:31):
Yeah, so just just moments before the call, I was
still walking around, like you know, anxious about what was
going to happen next, whether they going to keep the
pick or whatever was going to happen. I brought it
to myself to just, you know, sit down and relax.
And as I was going to the couch, my phone
started ringing, and I'm just like, oh, it's that time.

(01:52:52):
And when snarre you know, answer the phone, it was
just I'll just rushed for emotions immediately.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
You're your why was well talked about last night? We
were here with listening to your conference call and when
you called into all of us here in the media
in Seattle. And before I turn it over to my
ex NFL quarterback here, Hugh Milan, who's gonna throw some
x's and o's at you and some football stuff that's
way over my acumen, sir, A couple of things jumped out.
One is they talked about loyalty to John Schneider and

(01:53:22):
Mike McDonald yesterday. We live in a world now, as
you well know that the world of nil, and young
men can get paid and compensated for playing football at
the highest level. Oftentimes they go and get more money
or they look for more playing time. You're at a
school like Notre Dame, incredible academic institution, You don't get
in there just because you're a good football player. We
know that, we heard from your high school coach today,

(01:53:44):
but you also stuck around and maybe as a backup.
We're sharing some time with a guy that was a
number three pick in the in the NFL draft. That
doesn't happen, That just flat out doesn't happen anymore in
today's football. Why did you stick around Notre Dame? What
is it that kept you there as opposed to going
somewhere else where you could have been the lead back
and there would have been no question about going in

(01:54:05):
the first round.

Speaker 16 (01:54:08):
Yeah, there was many factors, one being I committed to
the University of Notre Dame and it's the best place
I could be, and it made me a better player,
a better person, and and then and grateful for you
know what Notre Dame has has given me. I wanted
to finish my degree, I graduate Notre Dame, and I

(01:54:30):
wanted to come back with those guys in a Peteford
National championship like we did the year before. But also
I made, you know, challenge to myself to do just
as good and produce just as much as the best
player in college football. And I trusted my was saying,
even though I had a lot of people in my ears,
they're saying I should do one thing or another. But
I trusted my gut and I'm here today.

Speaker 1 (01:54:51):
Jadari.

Speaker 6 (01:54:51):
In price with this, Jadari, and take us into whether
it's your meeting room or on the sideline during the games,
or or what have it, there must have been some
component where you and Jeremiah were challenging each other, whether
it's competing for reps or or some like maybe it's
a friendly you know, like like, hey, I can get

(01:55:12):
more out of this stretch than you can get, you know,
like like just kind of tell us the nature of
that very unique competition.

Speaker 7 (01:55:19):
You two have.

Speaker 16 (01:55:23):
When you mentioned it, brings me back to uh. I
think it was the third game of the season. I
had four touchdowns against Purdue, and we were challenging ourselves.
I think we had we had six total touchdowns out
of the running back room, like, all right, when we
go against Arkansas the next week, it's gotta be more
and going. And we had another running back, so we

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had seven and then we were just like, all right,
we gotta keep this going.

Speaker 10 (01:55:53):
You don't.

Speaker 16 (01:55:53):
It's not very often you score seven touchdowns from from
one position group every other game. But you know, we
made a challenge ourselves to be the best running back
duo in the country and ultimately the you know, the
greatest running backs come through there, Dame, And that came
with our work. I think the time we spent in
the training room or the the meeting room and the

(01:56:16):
weight room with recovery stuff like that. But also when
one one person going on the field at the time,
the other guys just watching him closely and you know,
figuring out ways to give the other guy tips and stuff.
You know, we were never hiding away like you know,
ways to get better and learn the game.

Speaker 6 (01:56:32):
So yeah, Jedari in price with us again and and yeah,
I saw that swing route. You took the swing screen
against Arkansas. You cut back, took it to the house
from about midfield. But and that in fact, uh that
that was one of the plays. After we drafted you,
Jedari and I went back and watched the game. The
coaches tape all one hundred and thirteen of your carries

(01:56:55):
and all seven times that they threw to you. So
I've got a good mental image of of what you
put on tape. And first of all, it's a fun
tape to watch. You're a beautiful football player, and on
behalf of the twelves were delighted that you're a Seahawk. Okay,
so it's a fun tape. I want to ask you
an x is and no question because you said last
night your bread and butter is the outside zone, which,

(01:57:17):
as you know, as the Seahawks bread and butter.

Speaker 7 (01:57:19):
Right at the.

Speaker 6 (01:57:21):
Beginning of the season, you were running at some of
that from pistol, you know, never from under center with
a quarterback shotgun.

Speaker 1 (01:57:28):
So you had some pistol.

Speaker 6 (01:57:29):
But then most of the season you were off set,
so if you were going stretch right, you were aligned
to the quarterback's left, kind of in the b gap
off a left guard, you know, the outside leg of
the guard. Tell us how that changes in your mind,
the difference between being in the dot right behind the
quarterback versus you have so many reps where you were

(01:57:52):
off set, you're going stretch right, but you line up
to the left. Tell us how that changes your reads
and how you fact that may change when you go
to the sea arks and you're behind the center.

Speaker 16 (01:58:04):
Yeah, we realized, you know, whether we're in gun or
in a pistol you know, just based off of the
stats still out the season, sometimes it was better to
be and the coaches mindset it was, you know, Pistol
short yards, but in my mind, honestly, I'd rather be
in Gun for the short yards situations. But in my

(01:58:27):
mind also from Gun, it's a little bit more of
a stretch and you're kind of forced to hit the
outside or sea gap. But when you're for Pistol, you
can kind of see the whole picture and you can
easily see the backside as well, so you know, when
those double teams happen, they double team all the way
up to the linebackers, you can easily have a cutback
or no cut at all, which my old runs back
coach used to say is the best cut. But yeah,

(01:58:50):
I love both of them. You know, whether it was
Gun or Pistol. And you know, what we did from Pistol,
it's definitely going to translate to the NFL what they
do under center, and you got things off.

Speaker 10 (01:59:02):
Of that with like the no.

Speaker 16 (01:59:05):
The RPO stuff that we did in college and stuff
like that, and the play action stuff. It definitely would translate.

Speaker 1 (01:59:13):
Jidarian Price joining a Seahawk first round pick thirty second
overall out of Notre Dame. I want to go back
to growing up. We heard from the show before me today,
Greg Bell. He's a Seahawk beat writer for one of
the local papers and news tributning. He was talking to
your high school coach from I think it was from
your last year. He only coached you the one year.
He said he got handed an escalade for his first

(01:59:33):
year coaching there in Dennison. But he talked about what
you listen for people that know the story of your mother.
I was diagnosed with breast cancer in twenty sixteen, went
through chemotherapy of two younger sisters and and you kind
of became the head of the household. You took control
of everything at a very young age. And he said,
you never complained about it. You never asked for anything special.
You just you went about your business. I'll ask you this,

(01:59:56):
your mom and your sisters, and what does your mom
mean to you? Because she obviously instilled something in you
that's that's different, it's different level and taking care of
her is one thing, but just the fact that you
took it upon yourself to do that. So what does
she mean to you? And what did last night mean
to her? From you as well.

Speaker 16 (02:00:15):
Yeah, she means everything to me, and I think the
ultimate thing is watching her go through breast cancer and
overcome that. It really made me feel like nothing that
came at me, adversity wise, was gonna defeat me. And
she can go through something like that life threatening, then
I can go through anything, you know, whether it's an

(02:00:35):
injury or a little setback or miss Simon, if almost anything,
there's always a way to get over it and just
think it back to my mom and using that as motivation,
like it could always be worse. And just the fact
that I'm in this position that I am now to
you know, change other people's lives. I'm going to do
everything in my ability to be the best I can

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out there on the field.

Speaker 1 (02:00:59):
You can also change her life automatically as a first
round draft pick in the NFL. I know you know that.
Uh what about your sister? What about your sisters? Because
I assume that the four of you are pretty night
close knit family.

Speaker 16 (02:01:12):
Yeah, my two younger sisters. You know, we're all pretty
close in age, so we'll fussing the fight growing up.
But uh, you know, as we've matured on and and
you know, thankfully you know, hopefully I was a role
model to them, and they tell me every day how
proud they are of me. And I like to give
them some messages that I get from my coaches, and

(02:01:32):
that's just the type of person I am. I like
to use those those football and tea meeting messages is
to relay them onto them. And you know, just life
is hard, and but if you just keep finding your
wives and the reasons for living and keep your purpose
in God and everything and be all right. And they
remind me all the time.

Speaker 1 (02:01:49):
So yeah, that's wonderful.

Speaker 6 (02:01:52):
Jadari and Price with this and Jadari and those experiences,
you know that they prepare you for the challenges. One
of the challenges you're going to have in the eyes
of the Seahawk fans here the twelves, is they're looking
at you, say, Okay, he was the backup to Jeremiah
Love in college. But now as you know, Kenneth Walker
as a chief the Super Bowl MVP, and you've got

(02:02:15):
Zach Sharbonnet he's hurt for half the year. You go
from running back number two in college to running back
number one for the Super Bowl Champions. Is that a
thought that's kind of hit you. I know, you're ready
for the challenge, but just kind of tell us what
your mindset is to be able to graduate that step

(02:02:37):
in that challenge.

Speaker 16 (02:02:39):
Well, my mindset, personally, it is just a Nika be
ready for anything and go into the locker room and
compete like I'm an undrafted free agent, you know, that's
my mindset. I always have a chick on my shoulder.
I didn't even see myself going first round, and I
did it. And that just goes to show all the
hard work I put in and in the production that

(02:03:00):
I showed on the field the past three years. And
it's only going to get even better. I can feel
myself getting better, my bodies, I'm healthy, I understand my
body more now, and my habits are getting better. So
I'm prepared to be you know, bag if I need to,
and returning especially if I need to. But I just
want to be out there on the field and play

(02:03:21):
football again.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
We you talked about adversity a second ago, and and
you have a former teammate that had to go through
that last year. He was drafted Riley Mills by Seattle.
He's a Day three pick, and I remember Seattle talking
about him and McDonald and Schneider came in here, remember you,
and they talked about, Hey, he's coming off any injury.
We're willing to wake because we think this guy is special.
Lo and behold he I don't know, I've got a
sack in the Super Bowl that worked? Uh yeah, yeah,

(02:03:44):
worth that was worth the Wait? What if I have
you talked to Riley much at all? And what has
he told you about coming out here?

Speaker 16 (02:03:52):
I haven't much, but I was definitely tuned in on
the bow and seeing a former teammate, former teammate, former
captain do what he did. You know, it was it
was unbelievable. It was, you know, emotion in a moment,
but proud of him and I can't wait to be
teammates with him again.

Speaker 1 (02:04:09):
I got a bit, I got a piggyback on this. This
he's a well spoken man. Let's let's ask you as
an analyst. We only saw a glimpse of Riley Mills.
What what are we gonna see next year from him
when he's healthy?

Speaker 10 (02:04:20):
Ah? Man, that.

Speaker 16 (02:04:22):
One of the strongest and fermous guys I've ever I mean,
the amount of times that dude caught me with one
arm going through a gap and practice in fall camp.
It's it's unbelieve. It gives me nightmares. But no, he's
a he's a great player and I can't wait to
see him back healthy.

Speaker 7 (02:04:40):
Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 6 (02:04:41):
Well, we're gonna continuing your role as an analyst. Okay,
I want you to analyze yourself, Jedar in and so,
so the question would be this, you got to answer.
It's in two parts.

Speaker 1 (02:04:54):
You got to say.

Speaker 6 (02:04:55):
We're gonna give you permission to go third person Jedarianer.
Price is a first rounder because his best skill is
blank and then uh comma. But Jadarion Price most in
the needs to work in his game on this aspect.
So you get you get two shots out that. I
know you're notre dame and educated and smart, so you

(02:05:17):
can handle a two parter. But go ahead and be
an analyst and fill in those questions.

Speaker 16 (02:05:24):
Yeah. Jadaron Price is a fresh round running back because
of his ability to make plays on the field and
whether it's offense or special teams. And he's a home
run hitter or he's got home run speed. He knows
how to get to the second level and make guys miss.
Almost every time he gets the ball, he makes someone missed.
And his teammate er My Love is a phenomenal player,

(02:05:46):
but Price being able to do what he did on
that level with with that caliber of a players is
h as special and Jadaron Price is going to do
special things in the NFL when he gets his opportunity.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
What do you need to work on?

Speaker 6 (02:06:01):
Yeah, well that's half you're halfway home.

Speaker 7 (02:06:03):
That was great.

Speaker 6 (02:06:06):
You just bought that stretch up the sideline for like
forty yards.

Speaker 1 (02:06:09):
That was that was awesome. But now you got to
cut back into the middle of the field.

Speaker 6 (02:06:13):
So what's what's what's the what's the Jared Aarron Price
has to work on?

Speaker 7 (02:06:17):
Go ahead and finish it out.

Speaker 1 (02:06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 16 (02:06:21):
One thing that he needs to work on is just
continue to be consistent in the past game pass protection
protecting a quarterback. That's a huge thing, and he's done.
He's showed great skill in doing that. He has plenty
of film out there where he show a good fighting,
good technique and he does it pretty well. But just
consistently being able to protect the quarterback and being a

(02:06:41):
reliable source out of the backfield.

Speaker 1 (02:06:44):
I love it. Hey, listen, this is a great conversation
Seahawk fans texting right now on our radio station, our
sports station here, just loving you and excited to see
you in a Seahawk uniform. We can't wait to see
you out here at Mini campany out here very soon
in the next few days, and congratulations to you and more.
We'll see your family and specifically your mom on everything
she's been through and the long road, and she's got

(02:07:05):
a first round draft pick as a sun Now and
a lot to be proud of because you're a lot
more than that, as we can oil. So thank you
so much for coming on today.

Speaker 16 (02:07:13):
Yes, sir, I can't wait. I appreciate Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:07:15):
Well, I love it. There you go, Jadari Price. We'll
take a quick break, come back and put a rap
on things before Softy joins us at three o'clock.

Speaker 8 (02:07:23):
To the NFL Draft.

Speaker 9 (02:07:24):
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Speaker 1 (02:07:42):
All right, we just got a minute left to go, Softfield,
pop on here just a couple of seconds with the
Virginia Mason Athletic Center. As I wrap things up, I'll
be back with you at seven o'clock with Hugh mill
And and Rob rang for the end of round two and
round three to put a rap on things. Back with
you tomorrow morning at nine am. Don't forget real quick
fought on judarium price.

Speaker 8 (02:07:58):
Well, I think character just exudes right off.

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
You can hear it.

Speaker 4 (02:08:03):
You heard that, John Schneider.

Speaker 6 (02:08:04):
That was an important part the loyalty piece, educated, you know,
selfless love, that part about a running back, the recognition
of the need to be more involved with the passing
game and his role in that. I think he's yet
another Seahawk who seems to have top level character.

Speaker 1 (02:08:27):
Hugh Millin, Dick Vaine, Dave Softie Mahler from the Virginia
Mason Athletics Center. Rounds two and three coming up.

Speaker 9 (02:08:32):
Next for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
This is paddle day saying so long everyone,

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