Furness Show 4-28: Dwight Jaynes, Joe Sheehan, John Lund

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here we are on this Tuesday. We got a couple
of things going on. One the Godfather, Dwight James is
going to join us here in about fifteen minutes from Portland.
There's a lot going on. I'm gonna get to the
NBA in a second. One twenty today, Joe shean two o'clock,
John lnd.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
We think we know.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
I think I told him in very explicit terms not
to mess up my streak of having him on time.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
So all right, specific or like hard terms, like you
are you are doing things I can't say, you're not
screwing this up?

Speaker 3 (00:31):
John, Yes, that is a nicer way than the birds
that ken.

Speaker 4 (00:35):
I know.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm fully planning on him too, because last week he
made the comment of like I'm on too much of
a hot streak right now, so being on time.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
Yeah, I mean sometimes a here scares people.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
You guys all want us to do live interviews, that's
what ends up happening. Huh yeah, be carefully asked for
uh one o'clock. We did this last week. We have
longer hours now we're on three hours. I don't know
if you guys know that twelve to three every day.
It's an exhausting process.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
The people have spocused.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
No, they have not spoken. Nobody.

Speaker 1 (01:01):
No people spoke, Jess, that's what not what happened. They
had changes in the iHeart world and they said you
got to do an extra hour. That's what happened. And
we all know that. But I love your support. People
have spoken, people have spoken if they want. If you
want the people to speak, none of us are going
to be here. So to be careful what you ask
for me at me at the top of the list.

(01:23):
But we did do a fun thing last week, yes,
and I thought of one today. It's not it's going
to happen sporadically here there. But I got a sports confession.
Oh yes, we're gonna do every day and then bless
me father for ies. And but I got one today
at one o'clock. I don't think it's going to be popular.
And I don't and you guys know me. I don't
do stuff to be to just to kind of rattle

(01:44):
the hornet's nest.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
That's not how I operate now. But it's just it's
a personal preference and I'm just done over, can't do
it anymore, Okay, And I'll just say this. I switched
the channel every time.

Speaker 4 (01:59):
Really, but I'll.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Let you guys and you can react to that at
one o'clock today. A little polarizing. Bless me, father, for
I have sent a sports confessional.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
Is it a sin though? If you just if it's
your preference.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I think everyone thinks I'm I sinned when I say this. Okay, yeah,
maybe I'm actually what I'm what I'm hoping for is
some affirmation. I'm hoping somebody agrees with me because I
can't just be me now. I'm curious. Well that's what
you call it teas in the business, hey geez.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
But usually like one of the producers knows what's going on, right.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I just want just wanted me to say it earlier,
I wouldn't do it, Okay, fair enough. We'll do that
at one o'clock and you can react to that.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Four one five.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
I'm one of you guys on the Tacoma do tumma
dodge text on if you've got a sports confession, and
we'll get to those. Here's what I'm just real quick.
I got a few minutes here. I want to start
with this. The so we put the thing up yesterday.
Jess has a promo running and there's a there's a
stuff on on online. H Benton did it last night
for us on the Gram, on the Instagram and on Twitter,
on Twitter, yeah, on the NBA and it here's the thing.

(03:00):
I we brought up the NBA yesterday and I think
I don't even know the context.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
What was the context in I can't.

Speaker 4 (03:07):
Remember Smanta Halloway like that. Them not having the vote,
the vote, the vote, yeah, the vote, Okay, the vote yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
So we found out yesterday that they're not going to
vote on the NBA coming to Seattle until at the
earliest in the fall. Right Seattle slash Vegas, which isn't
a huge deal. There was a little bit of hope
that they could get that thing pushed through and get
the vote and be done during Summer League in Vegas.
It would be perfect timing in Vegas. Summer League. Give

(03:34):
you a little news drop in the middle. It's like
the slowest, it's the only slow time of the year
for the NFL. Give you everything is lined up nicely.
Right then it's a full two years out from NBA
free agency in the NBA Draft. Well, we found out
yesterday that Adam silver Tallian group of Sports Editors across
at the AP event. Nope, they're not going to do that.
They're hoping maybe by the fall. It needs to get

(03:57):
done before the end of the year. Even the end
of the year is only eighteen month. Think about this,
it's eighteen months. It's because because people say, well, it's
you know, two years until the start of the season
or twenty two months. No, the season starts with the
draft slash free agency, so the timeline becomes a little
more bag. Yeah, it does. So I brought it up
yesterday and we talked about Sam and the money and

(04:19):
Sam Halloway the money and all that that aside. For
a second, I was really surprised by the reaction, both
on the text line what we put out on social
media with the cut with me talking about it, just
with people this anti NBA pushback. Now, I believe, as

(04:44):
do most of us here at the station, and I
think a lot of media people around town, that the
day the NBA comes back, and I'm fully confident will
but the day the NBA comes back and it's announced
it's coming back, it will be one of the bigger
days in the history of our city in terms of sports.
It woul rank up there with Super Bowls. It would
rank up there with the awarding of a franchise in

(05:06):
the NHL. It's probably surpassed that for sure. Unfortunately I
hate to admit that, but it would. It would rank
up there with ALCS Series ninety five. You know, here
comes Junior blah blah blah, all that it would be
of that magnitude. I think we I think most of
us believe that. But maybe we're too close to it

(05:27):
because the pushback we saw yesterday. I saw yesterday. It
just and it's not the first time. You guys see
the text line. You guys get the feedback.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
You see it.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
Even on a good update, like when they said that
they were.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
That March the show we did the show we did it.
Mark in March at the queen An Beer Hall was
just like whatever. It was a nothing burger. And for
us that was a significant step, like a big day. Hey, yes,
we're looking specifically at God who put this thing in here?
Softy's right, they put a new like thing in here.
You can't sit anyway. They that day. I thought we

(05:59):
would have a pretty good celebration and a rah rah
here we go, and people either didn't care. More importantly,
they just like whatever, Man, I'm done with the NBA.
I still believe that there is going to be It's
going to be huge.

Speaker 5 (06:14):
It will.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
I think that the I think you hear from a
vocal minority in terms of the negativity oftentimes in our business,
and I kind of think that's what it is. But
you guys can tell us four nine four or five
to one. We're all kind of sitting there around here
chomping at the bit. When's the NBA coming back? Are
you the same? I don't think many people are. I
hate to say that, and maybe I'm wrong, and maybe

(06:35):
the text line will prove me different. Maybe just the
bitterness of twenty years is creeped into where we are
right now today. But yesterday it kind of took me aback.
I was a little bit surprised. I was a little
bit surprised by the pushback and the lack of just
kind of like a screw it, who cares? I just
someone asked us yesterday, Anders did you asked Softy? And

(06:58):
I question, what was that question?

Speaker 2 (06:59):
You remember?

Speaker 4 (07:00):
Estion was do you think the people that you know
weren't around or you know, younger than myself. I always
would say that weren't around for the ripping away of
the franchise in two thousand and eight. Do you think
they will embrace the NBA more than the people the
older generation or less because you could argue both ways,
more because they weren't they the wound is not there

(07:20):
for them, or less because they didn't grow up with
the NBA in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
And before I give you what stofting, we actually agree.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
We both agreed weird.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Terrifying a lot of levels. How old were you in
the in the.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Eleven eleven?

Speaker 2 (07:38):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (07:39):
So I think a couple of things. I think one
of the NBA is really popular with the younger audience.
You know, like Baseball has the oldest average audience, and
like Baseball's the average viewer at least for Baseball is
over fifty years old in our country. I think I
think the NBA really does appeal to a younger generation.

(08:02):
I would just I use my son and his friends.
They're all in the early twenties. Big NBA fans. Now
here's the thing. They don't consume it like we would.
They don't watch games necessarily, they'll watch highlights, follow players.
NBA is a big storyline, storylines, all those things, right,
So for the people listening right now, you're probably our
average age listening right now is probably in the forties.

(08:23):
That's just that's the nature of our industry and our business.
I we're excited, are you? I don't know. The NBA
also is just has a tendency just to do things
in a strange, strange way. Portland's a great example. That's
why we're gonna go visit Dwight here in a second,
because what's going on down there, to me is really

(08:48):
for them somewhat terrifying. There is a distinct feel of
Clayton Bennett hovering over the Rose City or Rip City
is this time of the year, at the playoffs, a
guy that wants building stuff done, build a new building
or renovate to the tune of six hundred and fifty million,

(09:09):
almost a billion dollars. If not, I want a shorter lease.
What a shorter lease mean? I don't have to educate
anybody in this town on what a short lease means.
It means the team can leave, which it did.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Hear? Is that a relocation? God?

Speaker 1 (09:26):
I just I know, I just don't think there's any
way in the world that anybody here would dirty their
hands with a relocation of Portland. But maybe another team.
Maybe there's a couple teams that could relocate Portland being
one of them. To me, it would just be an
absolute It would be a crime on the level of
Seattle losing this ONICX.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
But this owner.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
He's following the Clayton Bennett playbook by a page by
page right now, let's go cheap. Let's cut everybody off
at the knees. Let's not promote our products. Let's do
nothing to help the fan experience. We want this from
the state, and this from the state, and this. It
is the Clayton Bennett playbook.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
Man, let me paint a picture few Ian. Yeah, what
if you know, God forbid, things don't go the way
that we want. Maybe Vegas doesn't have their you know
what together, like we talked about yesterday. Yeah, and we
already know Seattle's ready. No, no, no, it comes out
that they want to if you tell.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
Me it's if you tell me it's New Orleans or Memphis.
He's already come out and said, he's already said, I'm
were staying in Memphis, did silver? If it's New Orleans,
I'm fine with that. Okay, I'm fine with that. Portland
all joking is no, And I here's the thing. I
don't think they would do it.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
No, I don't think they would either.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
Here's why that.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Market's really important to their hockey team.

Speaker 5 (10:45):
Mm hm oh, they.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Don't really important.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
And the region, like the hockey team is a regional team,
their viewer viewership numbers down there and all that are
really big.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's like the Mariners.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, like like the Mariners don't want to ever piss
off Portland.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Yeah right, but they also don't want a team there.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
They also don't want a team there.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Yeah right.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
But that's the mark the Portland market is important for. Really,
the Portland mark is important for the Seahawks and Mariners
and the cracket. I don't think there would ever be
that cod.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Well for nothing else. I don't want that owner anywhere
near us.

Speaker 1 (11:14):
No, it wouldn't happen because he would He's not going
to want to have to be a tenant under one roof.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Anyway, we'll take a break. Our guy, Dwight James and
Godfather joins us next.

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Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 2 (11:56):
I think we are? Are we on YouTube?

Speaker 8 (11:57):
Of course?

Speaker 2 (11:58):
We are?

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Okay, well, okay, wait a second, okay, never mind, we are.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yes, A course of course means that it's just a
given that things are working. That's I'm not sure in
this business if that's the case. All right, joining us
right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. Good friend for
many many years, they call him the godfather in Portland,
and rightfully so.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Television radio.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
For a long time, a trusted columnist in the Rip City,
Dwight James Jones. Right now, Hello, sir, how are you?

Speaker 9 (12:34):
I'm good and I'm here for you anytime that you
want me. Always a pleasure to.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
Speak with you.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I one of the first people I met when I
got to Portland back in two thousand and two, and
we ended up working together at Comcast Sports at Northwest.
Had a lot of lass, some funnel on the way,
and now we've moved on, and I think back those
might have been even though the team wasn't great, although
they did have nice little run with brennon Roy For

(13:01):
a while that might have been the glory years for
Portland with Paul Allen still owning the team. It's changed
a little bit, which I want to get into with
you in just a couple of things. Real quick, I
have not seen it yet. Have you seen the jail
Blazers Netflix thing?

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Yes? I have.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
What would you say to someone like me who was
there for I guess really the last two and a
half years of what that would be the time? What
would you or even just any fan watching it? Is
it worth watching?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Is it good? Is it accurate? Well, here's what I
would say. Starting off.

Speaker 9 (13:34):
You know, I was a columnist at the ore Going
In and the Portland Interview, and during that time Carrie
Agers wrote the book on the jail Blazer's kind of
a definitive history of that, and then Jason Quick was
the beat guy on the road with them all the time. Yep,
And none of us three are included in the documentary,

(13:55):
although all three of us were interviewed by them. So
my sense was that we didn't quite fit the narrative
of that what they wanted to portray, So it kind
of turned out to be a few of the players
who were here at during that time, kind of making
it sound like they were just lovable rogue rogue guys.

(14:19):
You know, it's just sort of having fun and leading
the city through a merry time of its history, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Oh God, I so yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:28):
I heard something like along the lines of you and
Carrie and Jason weren't in it, which is just odd.
I mean Jason is I mean, he was the beat
writer forever with that team. I mean he was embedded
with that stuff. Home and Away. You guys had been
in Portland and understood and like you said, Kerry wrote
the damn book. That's I was wondered about that. I've
seen some of the stuff. I've seen some of the
stuff with Damon and Rashid and Bonzi and some of

(14:50):
the podcasts, and I do chuckle. It's like, yeah, you know,
we the lovable you know, we were misunderstood. So I'm
going to watch it. I'm probably watching it with a
grain of salt. I mean, I got there just in
time for Yellowhummer incident, quint Elwood's dogfight, I mean, all
of it, like and yeah, yeah, it's you know. The
funny thing is I like Damon of all those guys.

(15:11):
I always like Damon. I always like Damon, I always always.

Speaker 9 (15:14):
I always have to Yeah, I always liked him, knew
his father a little bit, and uh, you know, covered
him in high school, a local guy, and I think
he tried his best to do well, and I think
he learned a lot of lessons here conserved him later on.
And what has become, you know, a very prosperous life
and a valuable life helping young basketball players. And uh,

(15:36):
the other guy's not so much. Uh Rashid, you know,
has become in retrospect, A lot of people who grew
up here during that time will tell me that Rashid
is their favorite player of all time. And uh, I
have friends who watched the documentary and said, gosh, he's
the funniest guy I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
And I never found him very funny.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
To tell you the truth, it was you almost had
to be there, right, You had to really experience it first,
Hawn to know how bad it was.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
The Yeah, he was, he was anything but funny. I'll
just say that, like he made and he didn't just
make our lives miserable. He made people in the locker
room and the front office behind the scenes. Yeah, there's
nothing likable or funny about him at all. I never
thought and I actually I shouldn't say that. I did

(16:28):
chuckle because I was part of the press conference. Both
teams played hard, God bless them good night when when
Carrie kind of went after him a little bit and
he just kept hit that that was very Marshawn Lynch
before Marshawn Lynch. The difference is Marshaw always did it
with He was fun like Marshawn and we all understood
the thing I didn't. I did enjoy that press conference
after that Dallas game because it was both Mark and

(16:48):
my buddy Mark Amazon at the time. You remember Mark
Mark did after he followed up Kerry all right received
both teams played hard, what else you know, and he
just he fired it right back off. I think, Carrie,
this is why are you wasting our time? And I
don't know if that's in there, but it should have been. Okay,
let me get to Tom Dundon because I mentioned this.
We're going through this up here right now. Dwight James
joining us here on the beacon, blooming hotline, the godfather
of Portland sports media. We're up here still wondering what's

(17:12):
going on with NBA expansion. We have a thing that
happened a month and a half ago at the NBA
owners meetings, when which Adam Silver said, Hey, yeah, Seattle
in Vegas, we're going to start exploring expansion, hoping to
have a vote maybe in the summer or later on
the year, but make a decision on whether or not
we're going to expand by the end of twenty twenty six.

(17:33):
The feeling up here is that things are in place,
ownership wise, everything else, they're ready to go. Obviously, the
price is probably still being negotiated. The issue is Vegas
as well, with can they get their blank together? Would
they come in with thirty one teams? Almost the opposite
of what the NHL did, Seattle first, Vegas second. NHL
was Vegas first, Seattle second, with an odd number of teams.

(17:54):
All those things are in play, and then there's this
other thing going on with Tom Dundon, the owner, the
brand new owner of the Portland Trailblazers. I'll just first
ask you Tom Dundan, his first month and a half
or so on the job in Portland, how's it going.

Speaker 9 (18:10):
Well, let's just say he hasn't been a great first impression,
and a lot of it I think Ian it's unfair
to him to a degree. You know, they somebody found
out they were they weren't going to put t shirts
on the chairs for the fans to wear, you know,
in the playoffs. And my take on that is, you know,
they used to put them on the chairs for every

(18:30):
playoff game.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
And nobody put them on.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
And that was the real problem with those things in
Portland for some reason. It wasn't like these other cities
where everybody was just excited to.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Put those on because they look so good on TV.
Here they never did.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
It, and I'll be happy to fans, I guess you know,
they're never the right size and they're kind of cheap anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:51):
But really, is it worth making a big deal about. No,
not really.

Speaker 9 (18:55):
They gave them towels to wave in the air and
they didn't waive those either, so really much matter.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
But you know, then there's all these little things.

Speaker 9 (19:03):
The only thing that would concern me and is is
he just doesn't want to pay the coach.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
It's just like in hockey.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
He always says, I want to put my money on
the ice, and here he's saying he wants to put
his money on the court and he doesn't want to
pay people away from that. And you know a lot
of rumors that he wants somebody to come here and
coach for a million bucks a year. And you know,
the average salary now is four million, and I mean
I'm talking about rookie coaches four million. You know, this

(19:32):
guy's making eighteen nineteen. But that concerns you a little bit.
And then you know, cutting down the travel party and leaving,
you know, leaving a lot.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Of people off.

Speaker 9 (19:44):
And I think he's probably going to simulcast the games
and do away with either the radio crew or the
TV crew, and you know, all of that stuff. And
he did all that in hockey, and I'm curious what
you have heard about him in the NHL.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
What's the gossip about him?

Speaker 1 (19:59):
In the end, he's cheap, I mean, el chiepo. He
you know, he gets away with it because his general
manager and his coach are both long tenured guys and
they've done a good job of putting together a good
product on the ice. It's a salary cap league, so
it's and every team in the NHL spends to the
salary cap and there's no luxury tax like the NBA,

(20:20):
so you can't go over it. You know, you spend
to whatever that cap is, that cap number is this
every particular year, so you know, there's no cheapness in.
It's not baseball where you can be the Pittsburgh Pirates
or something like that, you know, like that or the
Miami Marlins.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
It's not the NBA where you can spend to the cap,
but you'll never go into the luxury tax threshold, which
you know you're allowed to do. It's different in the NHL.
So in terms of player salaries, yeah, when he says,
you know, I'll put it on the ice, well sure,
but so do you know thirty one other owners like
you know, including all the teams that didn't make the playoffs,
the sixteen that didn't make the playoffs. The cheapness is simple.

(20:57):
And this is where I'll get back to it in
a second. It feels like it's this is kind of
out of the Clayton Bennett playbook up here in Seattle,
and I'll tie at Seattle in a second. But the
cheapness for him, you just mentioned they're probably going to
simulcast games, and we have John Fororesland here on our
TV broadcast who I think is the best of the business.
He's here because Tom, because Tom Dundan didn't want to

(21:17):
pay him and they wanted simulcast games. And it's like
the guy was the face and the voice of the
front and be like, be like the Seahawks. Are the
Mariners getting rid of Dave Knehouse when he was alive?
Or Rick Riz Now you know, we don't want to
pay you, Like what you're paying a broadcaster is like
lesson a less than a third of what you pay
your minor league goaltender in the American League, Like what

(21:38):
are you doing? Like and that kind of stuff. And
that's so that's his reputation coming in. I was surprised
the NBA let him in the club, especially a club
that thinks that they're going to get seven or more
billion dollars out of Seattle.

Speaker 9 (21:52):
Yeah, I don't. I don't really get it either. And
I will tell you this. You know, Adam Silver set
him up by saying, you know, whoever comes into Portland
is going to have to do something about that arena.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It needs updating, blah blah blah, or they need a
new arena. It does need updating.

Speaker 9 (22:09):
It's the oldest one that hasn't been updated actually by now.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
But here's the deal.

Speaker 9 (22:16):
See, Originally this was going to be a public private partnership.
You know, he'd pays something, the city, the state, the
county would pay a little bit. They kind of split
it up and get the renovation done. Well, now it's
quickly gone into the fact that he's not going to
pay anything and the government's going to pay the rest.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
And as you.

Speaker 9 (22:35):
Know down here, the government is even more broke than
I am, I think, and so finding that money is
not going to be easy. But the state has already
kicked in its share, and now it's kind of up
to the city to see what it's willing to do.
And the problem with it is he's willing to sign
like a twenty year lease, but he wants an opt

(22:58):
out clause in the lease. Well, to me, you can't
pay the six hundred and some odd million for the
renovation and you can't allow him to have an opt
out in five years or somewhere. He takes off the
greener pastures after you've done all this work for him
in the arena. And that's I think installed the negotiations nobody,

(23:21):
of course, is talking about it. And we have these
small town roubes on the city council trying to negotiate
with this guy.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
And he's a shark. You know, he is a shark.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
And you know, like governments everywhere, there's no real business
people on that council who are experienced in negotiating. They
need to hire negotiators on their behalf or this guy
is just going to skin them in negotiations. You know,
he made all his money and those subprime auto loans,
and he's negotiated a few things in his life and

(23:51):
he's going to get the best deal for him that
he can. And I don't really blame him. I mean,
that's what people do, you know. And if the city's stoopid, but.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Enough, And by the way, the city bought the.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Arena from the Blazers just a few months back for
a dollar and thought they had made a really great deal.
But there's debt service still in the arena. It needs millions,
hundreds of millions of dollars worth of renovation and it's
never going to turn a profit. It's always going to
be you know, all the maintenance that it takes. And
by the way, we're still stuck with Memorial Coliseum because

(24:25):
the architects got it declared a historical building so they
can't blow it up. And here's this old building building
I don't know, sixty two or sixty one or whatever.
It was far outlived its usefulness and they keep, you know,
doing little tweaks here and there to it, and they
do something every year.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
But it's just bleeding money.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
So now we're gonna have two arenas right next to
each other, both of them bleeding money, I think real soon.
And you know, the Motor Center, which was called the
Rose Garden when it was built, wouldn't have be and
been built.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It's not for Paul Allen. He built it, right. Yeah,
I think you know the city well enough.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
And I don't believe, honestly, the city would have ever
built a new basketball arena.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
I don't think it would have happened. I really don't.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
I would have thought they would have just limped along
a Memorial policy of trying to make it work until
somebody moved the franchise out of town.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I really believe that.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Yeah, I agree, Do I change John Is Listen, it's city.
You know, governments aren't the fact that the state's kicking
in money before we find out what the lease is,
which I'm gonna get to that. Just like up here
in Seattle, you know, Key Arena was needed to go away,
and the only reason that it got you know, turned
into and again, I just for people that say it's
a renovation, we're gonna it's I see this all the time.

(25:44):
There's no renovation there. It's not the same building. It's
the roof, that's it. I mean, I post pictures on
every now and then on social media, say this is
what the building looked like. You tell me that's a renovation.
A renovation, you keep something. There was nothing besides the roof.
But what scares me, that'shy I think it's the Clayton bennetting.
And you know we're wondering if we're going to have
expansion in Seattle. I don't think. Actually, I'll just say this.

(26:08):
I'm I'm about as confident as I can be that
there is no chance that the ownership group up here,
which is the ones at the front of the line,
because wait for it, they control the building Climate Pledge Arena.
Most of you group built the building one roof, foundation,
owns and operates or runs the building. The city has
forty nine percent. Whatever it is. But I don't think

(26:28):
anybody up here is going to whatever dirty their hands
with Portland. But what scares me is this when this
is why Ky Arena was such a And you bring
up the lease Key Arena. They signed a fifteen year
lease with the Sonics in ninety four. Buying out that
last year was really easy to do. When they had that,

(26:49):
you know that little thing with the city council in
two thousand and eight, there was only a year left
on the lease.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
That's fifteen years.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
You're talking twenty Not much difference, how concerned, because I
think I think then what you tell me, you run
an NBA circles far more than I do. Whether Memphis
I think is staying. I think he said that today
is silver. But whether it be New Orleans or Portland's,
Dallas has some issues going on. Who knows what's going
on in Charlotte half the time. What do you hear
around the league. Are they more interested in expanding, do

(27:17):
you think?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Or are they.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Looking to use some teams in some cities like Vegas
and Seattle. Is negotiating tools and leverage.

Speaker 9 (27:27):
That's a great question, And I hear both sides in
the league. I hear all kinds of stuff. Obviously, there's
that group headed by the brilliant James Dolan and your
idiot who thinks he's a rock and roll star. I
had to sit through his act with his group before
an Eagles concert once and I almost asked for my

(27:48):
money back. But anyway, he had a group of owners
together who didn't want to expand at all because they
don't want to share the TV money with two more
new teams, right, and I can get that, except they're
going to charge of polo money, probably ten billion dollars
for an expansion fee, and they're going to add when
you add Seattle, you're adding a huge number of television

(28:09):
sets all of a sudden, getting your games, so you
can charge more for advertising and everything else. But anyway,
it's a real strange situation. Silver just jumped the He
jumped all those owners who didn't want to expand and
made his little announcement. But it was really weird at
the time, I thought, and because he just automatically anointed

(28:31):
those two cities, Las Vegas and Seattle, which we all
knew they were next in line. But still, you usually
try to play the cities off each other, you.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Know, and try to yeah, oh you have Vancouver, BC.

Speaker 9 (28:42):
Shure, make a bid at Kansas City whatever, Austin, Texas,
sure give me a bid whatever, you know, Nashville, come
on down.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
And so they didn't do that in this case, and
I saw, I don't really know what's going on.

Speaker 9 (28:56):
There's a lot of people who think there isn't enough
talent in the NBA to have two more teams, and
I don't subscribe.

Speaker 2 (29:04):
To that belief at all. There's always enough.

Speaker 9 (29:05):
Players around and the fans aren't going to notice a
drop in quality in the play because there's been such
a drop in quality anyway, just because the games are
being played the way they are. You know, they've just
turned into a home running contest, you know, with three
point field goals, and that's really how the game is
decided now, and it makes for a lot of boring games.

(29:26):
And your star players are missing a ton of games,
so that devalues that game that you bought tickets for
four months ago wanting to see Cooper Flag play, and
he didn't play. Wemby didn't play in Portland this year
at all, you know, and he never saw him And
that's just the way it works out in this league now,
so I don't know really what's going on. Seattle makes

(29:48):
a lot of sense to move to Portland. I think
when Dundin made his power play, that was his backup
plan is to go to Seattle and he could just
hitch up a U all trailer and move everything up there.
They've got like three years left on the existing lease.
I think it's to twenty thirty, and then anything after

(30:10):
that is up in the air. And so that's where
we stand now. And the people I talk to a
government say, oh, yeah, we've agreed to everything, it's just
not signed yet. But then we had some of the
rogue socialists on the city council. They've kind of disagreed
with that, saying no, they're not in yet. But the
governor says, the council has enough votes. We'll see what happens.

(30:33):
But we have an election coming up in and that
means all these politicians are frightened. They don't want to
be branded the ones who lost the Blazers, so they're
kind of willing to do anything. And Dundon's got a
lot of leverage.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
You just caught everyone's attention here. You think that Dundon
in the back of his mind, would try to pull
a Clayton Bennett and not just move the team three
years left in the lease. Terrifying by the way, Uh,
not just move the team, but try to move it
here because out Here's why I say that, Like if
Seattle were to get a team, or if that if

(31:11):
the relocation came, I I just I know how important
Portland is to what the Kraken do, Hell, what the
Mariners do, the Seahawks do. Anybody up here associated with
pro sports would want no part of a relocation of
the Blazers. But if you have a guy that's from
Texas who has a team in Carolina in Portland, he
probably doesn't care.

Speaker 9 (31:32):
You're exactly right on that. I think word is out
that he doesn't care. And the first interviews he gave
he was wearing a heart for Yes, did you see
what a state?

Speaker 1 (31:48):
But that is huh And I should just point out
that would be like someone buying a team, Like if
Clayton Bennett bought a team, he's wearing a Sonics hat
and he's the owner of the Oklahoma Sea Thunder because
they moved Hartford to Carolina. That's that was the equivalent. Yeah,
that was I decided it's whatever. I mean, I just
want to I see stuff like that. It just brings
up all kinds of bad feelings and memories for anybody

(32:09):
up here in Seattle, because it's again, it's it's That's
what it is, right, That's what it is. It's it's
the it's the Clayton Bennett playbook. He's he's right now
trying to get money from the government, working with a
very short lease, kind of cutting the media off at
the at the at the knees, the consolidation of a broadcast,
which really kind of hurts your marketing abilities in a

(32:31):
lot of different ways. These are all the these are
all the you know, I mean, this is this is
from Clayton Bennett's playbook. Man, It's like he's reading Clayton
Bennett's book. It's like Clayton's calling him. Here's what you
do next, Here's what you do next. Here's what you
do next. It's it's terrifying to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Yeah, you know, I.

Speaker 9 (32:49):
A cynic, which I probably am, and I think you
know I am, But I think a cynic would say
he's leaving the door open to something like that and
if you can't get the thing done with him with
a long term lease. And Paul Allen worked on a
thirty year lease and he built a dang building himself,
you know. But but he had the interest of the

(33:12):
city at heart. And don't I'll never let anybody here
tell me Paul Allen was a bad owner. Paul Allen
was great to the city of Portland, he really was.
And honestly, I just uh, it was to shape the
way everything went down.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And his kind of memory.

Speaker 9 (33:30):
Is being spoiled by the reign of Burke cold and
Jody Allen running the team the last seven years, and
it wasn't the same as when Paul was here, and
that's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
That is indeed.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Substack, how's it going tell people where they can read
you stuff? Buddy, Oh yeah, just.

Speaker 9 (33:47):
Just go to substack dot Dwight James dot com and
uh yeah, you get one freebe and then it's going
to cost you a few bucks. But I don't think
eight dollars a month is going to put anybody in
the poorhouse.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
That's like half of a beer at a cracking game.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Probably right now, I'll stop it. Stop that.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
You can find some good deals what did they charge
it down there for a beer? I mean, I know
what they get here, and it's a lot. That's just
pro sports in general. I checking my paycheck stub Sale
Hockey Partners. Yeah, I know it's it's more than affordable
there at Climate Pledgeter. I don't know what you're speaking of. So, ye,
more than affordable. I don't know what you're talking about, godfather,

(34:28):
I don't know what you're meaning there.

Speaker 9 (34:29):
So I got you know one other thing you did
for me that you know, I don't know that you
ever knew you did it for me. There was there
was one time when you were hosting Talking Ball that
you couldn't make it. Yeah, and of course they had
to have a host, and the host came down from Seattle.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
With the producer who was Ross at the time.

Speaker 9 (34:48):
And ut, can you guess who that host was your
guest host for that night of Talking Ball?

Speaker 2 (34:54):
Oh? Boy? Was it Brook? Nope?

Speaker 1 (35:00):
God, I'm trying to think who would have been.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
I don't know. Well, let me give you a nice hint.
She's in the news a lot lately.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Oh God, yes, Well, you know what I tell the
story people, She started her on air career here with
doing that doing updates with Yeah, I blame Softy. She
was doing updates with Softy. I think he led her astray.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
You know.

Speaker 1 (35:24):
I think it's all soft as fault myself. Yeah, well wow, wow,
that goes in the book at some point, doesn't it.
You know Russini's time Comcast Sports Net Northwest.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Yeah, I can always tell people I know her. I
was introduced.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Yeah, hey, I ran into her during my time covering
the NFL with the Hawks on all those years with Fox. Probably,
I don't know, I've got I mean, I got a fault.
I got pictures on my phone of like, hey, there's
there's my feen Diane Edward. You know, we take a
picture on the field.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I said something to Purple Sheet over here, our boss,
I said I should tweet this out. Hey, you know
I'm supporting he goes, don't you dare?

Speaker 6 (36:00):
So?

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Trust me.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
I'm not putting any pictures out there with her and
I standing next to each other because I'm not an
NFL player.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
I wasn't. I wasn't that guy.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
But anyway, yeah, good times we put a Hey, we
made stars on that show, whether it be Russini, Brooke,
Abby Chin, I mean they're all there. Mayowski's the main
anchor up here. Now, yeah, I mean they're all they're
all stars. You and I are just sitting here getting
through life somehow. So I think we were star makers,
my friend.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yes, I think so. Everybody's a star but me. Yeah,
and me and the doctor stopped barking.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Well, I'll let you go do that. Great catching up
with you, my friend. I appreciate it. Thank you, Dwight.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Always a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
That is day James will take a quick break. Come back,
wrap up hour number one next.

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Speaker 2 (36:59):
Kji.

Speaker 9 (37:05):
Seattle makes a lot of sense to move to Portland.
I think when Dundon made his power play, that was
his backup plan is to go to Seattle and he
could just hitch up a you all trailer and move
everything up there.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
They've got like three years left on the existing lease.

Speaker 9 (37:24):
I think it's to twenty thirty and then anything after
that is.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
Up in the air.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
Dwy James godfather in Portland, just dropped that one.

Speaker 11 (37:35):
On us.

Speaker 2 (37:37):
Damn, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (37:45):
I have a lot of questions fire Away number one.
If that were the case, what would the ownership situation
look like, because we already know that even.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Though if he would move it it's building. Yeah, I
mean he'd have to negotiate a lease with one roof. Yeah,
doesn't make sense because your least agreement's not going to be.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Great for you, right, Yeah, that would be it. Wow.

Speaker 1 (38:08):
I Like I said, I just don't think that they
want to dirty their hands. I just I can't fathom
that being the case.

Speaker 4 (38:16):
That and you talked about it.

Speaker 1 (38:17):
That's also a dundant thing, like that's not that's not
anybody here saying that.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
Right, No, yeah, totally totally. It's not like that's what
they want, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (38:25):
They want an expansion exactly.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
But I think what you said in the first segment
about you know, people maybe not being as happy. But
then once the announcement would be made that we expect
to come that Seattle's getting an NBA team, all that
would change for the for the majority. I think there's
one scenario where that doesn't And if it's yeah, exactly
like this.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
I think relocation for the NBA here would be fine
if it wasn't Portland. And again, as much as there's
a rivalry, and you know, we chant Portland sucks at
every team or game and we bring that on like
all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I get all that.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
I understand that because that's good for you, Like you
want that. Yeah, first of all, you want the rivalry.
Second of all, I think, doing long ago, did I stop,
Like when Sacramento was a possibility to move here. There
was like a minute where I thought, Nah, this is
kind of brutal, this is gross. Like a minute, you
don't want what happened to you something. There was like

(39:18):
a minute then I thought, well, whatever, let's just get
a team back here. Expansion. I don't even know how
i'd feel about. I just know this Portland is a
no for me. It's just an absolute know all day
for me. And I think really it would be for
the group here too. I think there would be some
pushback from them to the NBA saying, listen, your only

(39:41):
option is to play here. You got to negotiate with us.
His revenue streams aren't great in that regard. It's what
they're They're having an issue in Dallas with that very thing.
Right now, it doesn't make sense. But what Dwight said,
this is a guy that is he's he is cheap
el cheap, oh, that's his nickname as an owner. He
wants to pay a coach, you know, five or six
times under the market value for a first time. It's

(40:03):
just ridiculous what this guy's up to. And three years
left on the lease, that's what would worry me. Three
years left on the lease to me is a's that's
a scary proposition because we had two years left here
and when he bought the team, it would have been
what he had four years one two. He had three

(40:24):
years left on the lease when he bought the team.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
And the timing with this, with the whole vote being
pushed back because of Vegas, has me a little scared.
I'm not gonna lie. It has me a little scared
of the possibility that Dundon kind of knows what's happening.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Well, he knows the tea leaves and he knows what's
going on more than we do. Right when he bought
the team. I yeah, actually think about it. It's the
timeline in terms of the lease is exactly the same
because they played two seasons here and they got out
of the last season of the lease. Right, yep, maybe

(40:57):
there's one more. Maybe my mouth is off by year,
it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
It's one year.

Speaker 4 (41:00):
They said it ends at twenty thirty. Actually, okay, so
twenty thirty, so he would have so there's one more year.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
He would have two years, right dundon, right, yeah, and
then one more year after that three years left. Well,
Clayton Bennett played two years here and then left before
the final year.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
It's the same same thing.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, gross, very gross.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
I'm starting to hate the NBA again, I really am.
It's just how they operate. Yeah, like, just sell give
us an expansion team for six billion dollars. That's still
over what the market. He bought the Blazers for four
four point four. Just sell us a team for five
five and a half. Let's just move on. What are

(41:47):
we doing here?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Right? What are we doing?

Speaker 12 (41:49):
Well?

Speaker 4 (41:49):
I think if again, if it were that simple, I
mean it's it's if Vegas were have arena like we do,
and ready I think that would have happened, right.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, I think Vegas is a problem. I think Vegas
is a big problem. All right, good times four nine,
four to five one, and we'll check the text. My
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Come up with Joe Sheen at one twenty today Game
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I also found out that he's the GM, but Dave
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Damon Jones became the first NBA player. He's an assistant
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Alrighty, we're back Power two of the show, Rolling along
on a Tuesday. Got a sports confession I'm gonna make
here in a second. Joe Sheen will join us at
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Speaker 2 (44:19):
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I was just trying to peacefully eat.

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Every is on cameras are hot, mics are hot, and
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Speaker 1 (44:53):
I totally adjust my schedule eating wise and all that
as well. Because we used to have we used to
have the New to Ourselves Now on the radio at noon,
so yeah, it's turned into smoothie breakfast and wait for dinner.
I guess, which is good. Probably a good thing for me.
All Right, let's uh before we get to Joe Sian
before we check in, and we'll do a daily power

(45:14):
play coming at one forty five today before we little
news from the Krack and we'll tell you about kind
of a cool little thing going on. But I will do
that at one forty five, we'll and we'll get John
Lund at two to talk NFL Draft recap with our
friends in the NFC West, the forty nine ers, the Rams, Seattle, Arizona,
and whatever else he's got on his mind today. It's
coming up at two pm today. Uh, but I mentioned

(45:37):
we did this last week, just my Catholic upbringing our
lady of Fatama Oday High School for me.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
They what I hated more than anything was.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
I think they called it the Sacramento Pennance confession based
is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Reconciliation? Thank you very much?

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Do you like it used to be did in a
little box? Yeah, then they did face to f I
don't know if they're still doing that.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
Well, you can you have an option?

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah? I know, answer the options.

Speaker 9 (46:05):
No.

Speaker 5 (46:06):
I tried my first communion eight years old.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
I took my first ever stand as a young man
back in the day.

Speaker 4 (46:12):
I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 (46:13):
At a day saying I'm not telling a mortal being
what my sins are, especially face to face. I did
that at oday and it did not go over well.
I'm sure it did not not. But you know what,
you were like a league of their own, madonnas.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
I won the battle. I didn't do it.

Speaker 4 (46:25):
Good for you, I do it.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, I didn't do it. I said, I can ask
for forgiveness from the man above. I don't need you
guy to look at it. As it turns out, some
of those dudes are probably not guys that should be
taking confession in the Seattle Arts dioceese, Yeah, all joking aside.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
No, it's true.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
Yeah, but confession is still there and I got one
today and I'd be interested to think. But you two
think of this and then what everybody else does as well,
I say, kind of a polarizing thing. I don't think
it's going to be popular. Maybe it will be. But
I heard earlier something that just caught my attention with
Chris Kidd and Greg Bell, and I thought, yeah, man,

(47:07):
And it kind of came into play last night because
I was watching for some reason CBC didn't have They
had a listed, but they didn't have the late game
with Utah and Anaheim on or utaon Vegas, I should say,
which was a terrific playoff hockey game. It's just a
terrific game. And I'm watching that and then the game
ends and here's my confession.

Speaker 4 (47:30):
Oh, I know where this is going.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I'm done with Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Can't do it. I can't do it. I just can't
do it. It's Scott Van Pelt overload. There's two things
at ESPN that are just shoved down your throat or
your viewing eyes.

Speaker 4 (47:47):
There's three letters for each one, SVP and sas Stephen A.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
Smith Scott Van Pelt. They're very different, very different. I
understand that I just too much Scott Van Pelt. He's,
first of all, we all are in a business where
you have to know a little bit about a lot
of things. To be an expert on everything is impossible. Yeah,
they have a guy in the morning that portrays at
Steven A.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Smith.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
But Scott vampilt I just too much. And the only
reason I thought of that is because I turned it
off right away. I was like, and this is he's
arguably one of the most talented people in the business. Absolutely,
and for me to be sitting here in a radio
station in Seattle, I'm not trashing his talent. It's just
not my not my cup of tea, it's not my taste.
And I heard Chris and I think it was Greg

(48:34):
brought up. Yeah, I missed the days of just like
Stuart Scott, Dan Patrick. Just give me the highlights and
you can have some fun with them. But those two
A two person show is better than a one person show.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Always.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
It doesn't matter, honest to God, it does not matter
who and what you are.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
It's just better. So why I incorporate the two of you?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Not because I Oh, I thought, it's because we were
vildly talented.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Very talent.

Speaker 1 (49:00):
You're it's more entertaining to have your two voices on
than just me pontificating.

Speaker 5 (49:05):
It just is I think more people the better, exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
And Stanford Steve doesn't count because I can do without
that too. But the I'm just I can't handle it.
That's my confession. Blessed me Father. I've said, I know
that's not popular. I know everyone wants to love SVP
and just worship his altar. I get that I can't
do it. I cannot do it. I immediately switch the
channel and again, talented dude man guys, one of the

(49:32):
most successful build a brand. Good for him. I'm just
just not my cup of tea. Yeah maybe, ma if
you agree four nine four to five one, if you
think I'm the biggest more on four nine four to
five one, doesn't matter. I don't know if anybody'll agree
with me. Like I said, I think it's a polarizing
topic because he's kind of one of those guys that
everyone seems to love. I you know, like Mina Kimes,
most people love, but a lot of people don't. I

(49:53):
never hear any SVP hate. And I'm not hating. I'm
just saying it's not my It's just not something I'm into.
Am I wrong?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Like, Like, how dumb am.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
I hot take? I don't think this is a sin.
I really don't. But not because of Scott Van Pelt himself.
I just don't think he's a post game guy, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (50:09):
Yeah, that's all he is.

Speaker 3 (50:11):
That's the only thing. The position they put it right exactly.

Speaker 4 (50:15):
It's the structure of the show that yes that I like.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
It's Monday Night football exactly, Monday Night Football's on.

Speaker 4 (50:21):
After that, like Joe Buck and Troy Aikman tossed right
to him and he does the interview with the guy
on the sideline from the studio. It's weird. I don't
like it.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
Yeah, that's and I think that's part of it. I
think he's put in this situation.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
It's kind of hard, just like, hey, we just had
our post game show. Let's go to let's go to
Sports Center.

Speaker 2 (50:35):
We've got Laura freaking rut Ledge right there.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
How her do it?

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
You know, and actually, unlike a lot of sideliners, Laura
actually is really good and ask a good questions. She
just go how did it feel?

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Talk about that play? Yeah, she didn't do that.

Speaker 1 (50:52):
No, you know, she's really good. I mean I I yeah, no,
so Jess, you you got a gasp, so I know
you don't agree with me.

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Well no, well I actually just wanted to Hey, yeah,
I finished that.

Speaker 5 (51:05):
You're welcome, audience who are viewing right now.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
But I totally understand exactly what you're saying, because I mean,
I'm friends with both Stanford and with SVP, and I
worked with him, and so everybody when they find out
that you worked at ESPN, Right, they want to hear
the horror stories and everything. And he is so overly
widely loved because it's true, it's true that he is

(51:33):
an awesome person and everything. But it's okay to acknowledge
that someone is a really good person.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
You don't have to want to watch him.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Well, it's just too much. Yeah, it's just too much.
It's like NC double a tournament, like the conference tournaments
he was coming on after that. He never talks college
basketball until then, he never talks hockey, but after a
hockey game, he's going to talk hockey. NBA is a
little more in tune with I mean, really, he's a
golf guy.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Actually if he's doing technolog if he was doing golf,
I'll watch, yeah, because he's a great golfer or reporter
back in the day. It's kind of where he got started,
and and so that i'd watch, you know, Monday night football,
college football, blah blah blah.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
One guy.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
No I'm not, I'm just I'm just not into it.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
And that's it.

Speaker 1 (52:15):
But again, I think it's just because there's too much.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
Yeah, it's an oversaturation.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Just give me a show, Give me a like I
think Anders you said it, well, he's it's a post
game show.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
It's not even an anchoring anymore.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
And it's right, it's not Sports Center.

Speaker 1 (52:29):
No, no, no no. So anyway, that's me four nine
four five one.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
I guess that that that's not a deadly sin. That's
not a deadly sports in. It's a confession, but not
a deadly sin.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
You know, people texting, and we'll get to the textan
form at two thirty today. But you know, I think,
I mean Kelsey's kind of getting to that point. Yeah,
the brother Yeah, Jason, right, Jason, Jason, Yeah, he's getting
that way.

Speaker 5 (52:49):
He's got the McAfee paintbrush all over.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Yeah, I can't Pat McAfee. We're done with too. But
that's that's all important.

Speaker 4 (52:56):
And it seems like, especially with ESPN, the way that
they've kind of gone about things, they've tried to like
eliminate anyone who isn't just a giant brand, you know
what I mean, And there's no specialization anymore. Yeah, and
it's just like if you can do a bunch of
these things, I'm entertaining.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
They do some great television, like I'll say this, their
college football final Fantastic is one of the most underrated
shows on television. Joey Galloway just does a EJ manuals
with him this year, and Matt Barry was the host,
but they're moving him because he's working for the SEC.
Hey moved him to the number one guy for the

(53:32):
SEC networkcause Laura can't do anymore. So I don't know
who they're gonna place him with, but he was. That's
a phenomenon. And you know what, they never pushed that show,
They never promoted it. He didn't know when it was on,
and it was such a good show. It is such
a good show. And they do good stuff.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
I don't hate NFL Live either, and they do.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Some good lives does a good job.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Yeah yeah, I mean they've gotten cheap over the years,
Like you get rid of hassleback for Alex Smith, that's
done really Like why.

Speaker 5 (53:55):
Matt was one of the best people.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
So good on TV. He's so good on telem Vision.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
Yeah, he's just smart and funny and engaging.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
All right, Well that's my that's my confession. My confession
is really simple. I'm just not a Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 4 (54:08):
Fan giant fan.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
You're not a super fan yeah, that's all.

Speaker 1 (54:11):
We'll get to those all right. I'm a fan Joshian.
He'll join us next.

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Speaker 1 (54:45):
Josh and Joshian dot com. The Joshian Newsletter joins us again.
We are live also on YouTube right now. You can
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out four nine four to five one. You can see
catch one of us eating anders right now. Actually, as
we see, he's taking some pressure off jests. Joshian joined
us right now. Hello, sir, how are you?

Speaker 14 (55:04):
I'm glad that you're not parenty a camrady.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, I'm not thrilled about it either, but you know,
we live in a world now multimedia, sir. That's what
we we do in this world of multi media. Just
got caught eating lunch earlier, apparently on the.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
YouTube, so it was my first meal of the day.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
So anyway, cameras are always hot, Mike's always.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
That's at dinner. Listen.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
I just told you I got to adjust my whole
thing now too, which is a probably a good thing
because we're on at noon, So a little lighter lunch,
if anything at all, usually smooth and away we go.
All right, enough for the food talk, Joe. There's a
lot going on in baseball. Two managers have been fired.
We'll get to those guys. Luis Castill continues to struggle.
We'll get to that. Let me kind of here we are.
We're literally, I mean, I look at the calendar. We're

(55:45):
a month into the season. The Mariner started on March
twenty sixth, so April twenty eighth, we're a month into
the year. We're thirty games in or so. For all
these teams around baseball right now, when we look around
the league, who are the teams that are struggling that
most prize? You Boston fired their manager, Toronto's got injuries,
Kansas City six games below five hundred, Houston seven, they've

(56:06):
got injuries as well. Mets are ten games below five hundred,
as are the Phillies Brewers a playoff team last year.
They're in last place in their division, but that's but
they're above five hundred. Their divisions that good, actually the
Central least early on. We expect Colorado to be bad
as well. So let's let's look around. We'll get to
the specific teams firing their managers. But who are the
teams that are most disappointing in your mind?

Speaker 14 (56:28):
Yeah, I would say the furthest from where my preseasons
directions were all the Phillies and the Red Sox. I
had them both winning their divisions and all the little
down on the Philly for offseason. I still thought they'd
be the best team in that NLH group. They just
a lot of things have gone wrong for them. They
had a really bad injury. They did re sign Kyle Schwarber,
but the moves that they made to try to get better,
promoting Justin Crawford, the center, h Chining, Avillains Garcia to

(56:53):
play right, none of those have really worked out. You know,
some injuries early. I'm not sure there's a bigger gap
between what you would expect from Zach Wheeler and what
they got from Taiwan Walker in April, so that really
hurt them as well a lot, and they're genuinely bad,
like there's some teams that are unlucky. The Phillies are
legitimately bad. They have, I believe, as of today, the
worst run differential in base so it's legitimate that they're

(57:15):
not good. And then the Red Sox, you know, I
just the offense. I mean, the pitching has been passable,
but the offense is just absolutely terrible. They're not hitting
the ball hard, making really bad swinging decisions. I didn't
love the way Alex Corr was managing some of the
young players, and I think that move is actually going
to work out for them. So I would say those
are the two teams for some expectations right now.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
Well, let's talk about Boston. Alex Cora gets fired immediately
gets apparently a call from Philadelphia, so someone elsewhere thought
he was doing okay. But at twelve and seventeen, what
were the specific reasons. I know you wrote about it
that Alex Korra got turfed.

Speaker 14 (57:47):
Well, I think Coorin is just not a great match
for the current Red Sox. We're kind of going to
this transition to these young knders Roban Anthony and Marcella Meyer.

Speaker 15 (57:56):
Wilier.

Speaker 14 (57:56):
Brain's been established for a couple of years. Now they're
moving into this new phase where hey, look, we want
to have the home grown team. And you Cora, he
won back in twenty eighteen, first year on the job,
wins the World Series, and I think there are a
lot of people that will always have a special place
for him. But he looks since then nineteen the team
wasn't very good. He was suspended for the twenty twenty
seasons such as it was because of his involvement in

(58:19):
the Astros science steeling scandal. And then a five years
since then, two trips to the playoffs, three three teams
that were basically five hundred eight teams, and he's been
posting on reputation for quite a long time. Very respected
in the game. Even before he got the job in Boston,
he was expected to be a manager. But I don't
know necessarily that the track record backed the reputation. And

(58:40):
I am certain that bringing up Chad Tracy, who managed
a lot of these young hitters at Worcester Worcesters. I'm
not doing it out from Boston. I'm from New York.
I can get that wrong, but I think you look
at the success of a player that the players had

(59:01):
under Tracy and tripa A. He's familiar with him. Seventeen
guys on this roster, he's married, he's managed already twelve
of the substantial players we don't play if he had
substantial time with him in Luster. So I love this
pairing of manager with the current roster, and I think
it was the right time to get.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Rid of core the Let's let's talk about what happened
with Thompson in Philadelphia, and he's replaced by the son
of the GM, Don Maddingley, of course, a legendary name
in baseball, former Dodgers manager, right and as well, So
let's talk about what Philadelphia did.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Was it the right move? Yeah?

Speaker 14 (59:37):
Just be the father of the GM. I don't know
if Preston Mattingley has a kid, but I don't think
we were talking about like Gary in that movie back
in the day. Yeah, but yeah, Preston Mattingly is the
GM and Don Madley is not a manager. I disagree,
not terribly strongly, but strongly enough. And as a lot
of differences between this situation and the one in Boston

(59:57):
I mentioned Kor not being a match for the turn
over in the roster. Well, this is the same team
that Rob Thompson has been managing for four years. He's
never failed. He took over the team in the early
twenty two and he made the playoffs four straight years.
So now to decide after twenty eight games you don't
want that guy running the team when you can point
to specific problems that have nothing to do with Rob Thompson.

(01:00:18):
I mentioned Adolistarciia in right field. I mentioned Justin Crawford
coming up to play center. I mentioned not having wheeler
Jase Rea Nudo has been out with an injury, Jwan
Duran's been out with an injury. There are a lot
of reasons that this team isn't playing well that really
had a hard time pinning on Rob Thompson. So I
think this is a big panic move by the Fillings.
To Bimber, we talked in the offseason a long Turners

(01:00:39):
thirty three, Schwarber's thirty three, Harper's thirty three, Pree Ludos
thirty six, Wheelers thirty six. This is a team that
has to win now. The catches Ian, I don't know
who who's your favorite player.

Speaker 1 (01:00:53):
Ever, My favorite player ever, Oh, Gene Tennis.

Speaker 14 (01:01:01):
For me, it's Don Madley. Okay, so I hate that.
I've got to say this, Don Manningley is not a
good manager. If five years with those Dodgers got really
out managed in those last year's played, this is when
the Dodgers were just getting good again. He had three
years taking into the playoffs, really did poor jobs in
those playoffs and went to Miami, had seven seasons. The
one year he made the playoffs was the twenty twenty season,

(01:01:22):
when everybody made the playoffs. The rest of the years
and there he didn't even have a five hundred team.
He's just not a good manager. And replacing Thompson with Manningley,
I don't think it's going to help them at all.
And let's gets into like why do you replace a
manager If you're Boston. You fired Cora, but you also
fired four guys on the staff. You didn't just turn
and say the guy who was sitting next to Cora,

(01:01:44):
you're our guy. But that's what the Phillies have done here.
They just turned the team from Rob Thompson, who had
four years of success in twenty games and twenty eight
games of failure. He said to the guy next to him,
you're going to take over, and I just hate doing that.
I just don't think you can say this guy isn't
good for us, but this guy who was right there
all the time is good for I think it's a
terrible approach to to management. So there's just nothing about

(01:02:06):
the Phillies move by the way.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
I'm let me clarify. Gene Tennis was a player for
the A's who was a catcher in first baseman when
they were the running through a dynasty time in the seventies.
We didn't have the Mariners yet they were people gonna
know who the hell's Gen Tennis and why is your
favorite player? That was like my first exposure to baseball.
They were on TV on Saturday Morning Baseball every week
because they were good. I almost said Cell Bandal, but

(01:02:29):
I was a catcher in first baseman because I was
very unathletic, and so I was a Gene Tennis guy.
Even have a baseball autograph from him, my buddy got
a few years ago. I'm weird. I get it. Currently
it's Josh Naylor because he's Canadian and he's mean and
he doesn't like to talk to guys at first base,
and I like that a lot. But yeah, I'm not
gonna say Griffy like everybody else in Seattle. And I
love the fact that Maddams were our favorite players, much

(01:02:50):
like Gene Tennis a legendary mustache back in the day.
Lose the mustache and you lose your superpowers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:55):
Don.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
I don't think that's working for you right now, buddy,
That's all. I want to read something here because this
will Andrews. Listen carefully, Chris Crawford, if you're out there,
Nathan Bishop, listen carefully. This is what Joe wrote in
regards to Don Mattingly. He was exposed as a poor
tactician during the team's playoff runs in the middle of

(01:03:15):
the decade that moved on to Miami, where his team's
never reached eighty wins in the season. But the emphasis
here poor tactician during the team's playoff runs in the
middle of the decade. Andrews, Does that resonate at all
with you? Yes, okay, I'm just checking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Yes, What is it?

Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
What is it bad tactician in baseball these days? Joe?

Speaker 14 (01:03:34):
Well, there aren't a whole lot of offensive tactic yous anymore, right,
We don't really bump as much because only a four
man benches, there's not a lot of opportuning that you
really get to do. The Rats have a couple of these,
but really it's about running opinions. Now, do you recognize
when a starter has to leave the game? Do you
pick the right relievers for the right reasons? Are you know?

(01:03:57):
Are you overworking guys? Are you underworking guys? Really about
running a pitching staff, And I mean I thought we
were fired by this last week. Obviously, Wilson had had
a tough I think last Monday they played the game
where when he went to Casey Liginia and I didn't
work out. I don't I think this all last I
defended specific moves that Wilson made that were controversial, but

(01:04:17):
on the whole, I think he had a really bad October.
You're not going to fire the guy who gets you
to the playoffs. Generally speaking, you won the division. It's
hard to fire that guy. But I do think that
it's hanging out. And even if the Mariners do you
make the playoffs again this year, you're kind of going
into the playoffs with this manager who's really shown himself
to struggle in those to make that shift from running

(01:04:40):
a team over one hundred and sixty two games, which
does require a certain set of skills, and then running
a team when you have to win that night's game
and that's all that matters. They are really separate jobs,
and not all managers have been able to make transitions.
Gave Roberts, who has three rings now. If you go
back to the sixteen and seventeen's first trips to the
playoffs with the Thetaing Dodgers, he made mistake after mistake

(01:05:03):
after mistake. He had to get reps in the playoffs
to get better than that. That's a real thing for
managers in baseball, getting into the playoffs, making those decisions,
understanding the way things shift. So it's entirely possible Wilson
will get to the playoffs this year as I project
them to be, and not make the mistakes he made
last year. So I don't think you want to give
up on him necessarily. It's also very rare in today's

(01:05:26):
game for a manager to lose his job for tactical reasons.
See one example. I could think there was Meg Jos
who was fired by the Brewers with about three weeks
left in the two thousand and seven eight season, basically
because he was making mistakes of this nature and we

(01:05:46):
don't expect that manager are now expected to manage people,
manage the clubhouse, and work with the front office when
it comes to some of the things that say we
would have expected Earl Weasan to do forty years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Josh and joining Josh Newsletter, Joe Shean dot com and Andrews.
Did that catch your attention in there as well?

Speaker 4 (01:06:06):
Yeah, yeah, I think it did a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
All right, And I'm gonna point this out because I
think Joe made a good point here, like and this
is probably the difference between a Dan Wilson and Don
Mattingly is that this is Dan's first job, and people say, well, yeah,
it's his first job. You shouldn't, Okay, take that aside.
It's his first job. Mattingly's had a number of chances
at the kick of the can and it hasn't worked out.
As opposed to Dave Roberts, like you said, Dave Roberts

(01:06:29):
to me is kind of more of a comp right,
like to Dan Wilson in the sense that all right,
got through it, got to figure some stuff out, learn
from it. You're gonna learn from it, and there's still
maybe a big upside with Dan Wilson, and we never
know what's coming from the front office. The lego meaning
thing last week was weird to get DFA the next day.

Speaker 4 (01:06:46):
Which is weird because it was a high leverage situation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
Yeah, and all those things, But I would take it
as like, I look at Dan Wilson, Okay, you got
to the playoffs one time. Let's get back there and
see if you've you know, learned from Bizartle and other mistakes.

Speaker 14 (01:06:58):
I's completely agree. You can make a case that Wilson
deserves a chance to say, make the same mistakes, but
to have learned from a mistates.

Speaker 15 (01:07:05):
A year later.

Speaker 14 (01:07:06):
Mattingly, I mean that hasn't matter in the playoff game
and AID team. You know, so eleven years now, So
you make the case that you know he's learned in
that time, and he's gonna be working with a very
smart front officer in Philly, guys like Sam Fould and
Red Rice and really know what they're doing. So I'm
not I don't want to say this can't work out.
In fact, I think in the short term it's going
to look great because, first of all, a good team

(01:07:28):
going nine to nineteen. They're going to regress to their meeting, right,
They're gonna they've gott Wheeler back, They're gonna ge drawn back.
They need to get renew it back. But over the
next two weeks they don't play anybody. It's Giants, Marlins,
Rockies and A's and some orders that are probably messed up.
So you look at the next four series three them
at home getting your better players back. I'm telling you
in two weeks we're gonna be hearing all about Don

(01:07:49):
Mattingley leaves the Phillies to a surge, when really it's
about regression in the schedule.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Let let's talk a little, Louise Casteele. I are buddy
Luke Aarkins does a great job covering the Mariners. Pointed
out last year, from the start of August to the
early September, he had almost the same numbers he has
recently in his six starts. His six starts right now
twenty eight and a third six point three five ere
giving up thirty eight hits in those twenty eight innings,

(01:08:17):
twenty four runs, four home runs, strikeout rate below twenty percent,
batting average three seventeen OBP three eighty three, slugging five
hundred against Louis Castile. Yes, the weather wasn't good last night.
It wasn't good for either team to get that, but
Louis Castile concern. No, Yes, what's what's our concern level?

Speaker 14 (01:08:38):
Increasing concern. We talked about him a two weeks ago
and I said, hey, sarely do you want to but
when you start to look at the broader picture, you'll
go back to even like twenty two twenty one, he's
lost over time two miles an hour off both basketballs.
Still was pretty hard ninety four eight or so, but
that's significant, you, Chase. I think more distinct thing is

(01:09:00):
the way he's changes the picture. He leaves on the
fastball in a way that he didn't four years ago.
He was pretty much fastball change up even a couple
of years back, and now he's like forty percent fastball,
twenty five percent change up. He doesn't use the change
up as much. The combination of all of these things
has just need to get hit a lot more, just
on a very basic level. I mean, forget the strike
out rate and kind of go down to the pitch level.

(01:09:23):
Guys make more contact off him than they have at
any point in his career. When he throws the ball
in the zone, they're making a lot more contact, and
this shows up in numbers like expected slugging, actual slugging, Wolva,
expected wolva. He's just much easier to hit. And he's
not somebody who's typically somebody who like goes out of

(01:09:43):
the zone money. There's a lot of strikes, and right
now that's not working for him because the law stuff
isn't good enough for him to live in his own anymore.
So he's just he's throwing strikes the way he always had.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Din't get knocked around the Uh yeah, I mean, and
they're gonna have decisions. You know, when Bryce Miller is
back and healthy and ready to go, we'll see where
he's going to be. And and you know they've got
I mean, Hancock has been has pitched very well this
season four. And they got Kate Anderson, who they're not
going to bring up right now obviously, but they they
do have decisions to make. I always went with a
guy like Castillo if suddenly he gets I always love

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the baseball terms for these things. In hockey, we have
upper body injuries. In baseball, they have arm fatigue feels
like an arm fatigue. Ten day injured list is screaming
Castile's name just to kind of reset himself a little bit.

Speaker 14 (01:10:28):
I call it a Dodger vacation because the dog iss
do this all the time. And by the way, it's
fifteen pictures.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
It ten from a little while, that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Yeah, yeah, full weeks.

Speaker 14 (01:10:36):
But you know, when you get Miller back, maybe this
is your opportunity to give me the quote Dodger vacation.
It's a picture. Somebody else is going to get hurt
some point. I will say that the fact that Castillo
pretty much always take you know, he makes his thirty
one thirty two starts a year, I'm not going to
say that a guy doing that with a seven era
is necessarily helping you. Do you think there's some value

(01:10:57):
to say? I know, I can put him on the
mount and get five innings out of there every starting.
You mentioned Kate Anderson, but I don't think there's a
lot in between Kate Anderson and the next level Kate
he keeps saying. And I don't still think Anderson's gonna
make the majors this year. No, that'd be a very
rapid assent and there's just not a lot once you
get past you know, Hancock and Miller and Castillo, but

(01:11:18):
the next pier down is pretty ugly. So Castillo might
is not very good right now. I'm not sure he's
not the best fifth starter option for this team work.
You know, sixth death and Miller comes back, and the
fall off is pretty steell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Cal Rawley's heating up five home runs his last seven games.
The numbers are starting to come up. He's over two
hundred batting average, on base percentage two eighty eight four
nineteen slugging seven h seven ops. The power, we're starting
to see it again. He had an openhome run in
Seattle that to left field that never happens from I mean,
it was crazy power. I think it's only the fourth
time he's done that in his career on kind of

(01:11:54):
a chilly night as well. So we're seeing it. Seven
home runs, seventeen rbs, andwer's just real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
For Joe and me.

Speaker 1 (01:11:59):
What were his numbers after thirty games last year?

Speaker 4 (01:12:02):
I just did through April and March, which is about
where we are now. To thirty three batting average three
forty one on base five forty three slugging ten home
runs for a eight eighty four oh ps.

Speaker 1 (01:12:11):
So's he's down from last year by a lot, but
he's climbing up. Are we starting to see Cal become
cal again?

Speaker 2 (01:12:19):
Joe? Yes, If you.

Speaker 14 (01:12:21):
Define Cal as the guy he was before twenty twenty five,
he was never going to hit sixty home runs again,
he was never going to have that kind of year again.
But never before that. He was a very good, very
underrated certainly by me players hitting thirty homers in the year,
playing good defense. You know, he's he's a two twenty
two thirty here. That's who he is. That's who he's
been so that I think you're going to have to expect.

(01:12:42):
But the walks are going to be there. I think
by the end of the year, the power and the
isolated power will be there. You just have to manage
expectations off of last year. Last year is not the
year that base you're expecting expectations to cal rally on.
Just go back to twenty two to twenty four, and
I think that's his base life for twenty six.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Yeah, let me quickly say what his twenty twenty four
first month looked like. It's kind of similar to what
it's shaping up to be now six home runs two,
twenty seven, batting average three ten on base four thirty
four slugging for a seven forty two of ps.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
So he's he's down from that as well, slightly though,
he's Yes, it's it's what Joe just said. It's it's
more comparable to where he is right now. He's on
pace for about thirty seven home runs yeah this season,
And yeah, you're right. I mean, what happened last year
was so out of the bucks. The other thing Joe
that I guess is, I don't know, I say concerning
they needed all of those from him to be a

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playoff team last year. Now the AL West isn't very good,
they should still they can get a thirty five home
run season out of Cal to help the offense all season.
Nailer's heating up. Maybe you get Josh Naylor looks like
a little bit better player like going on. So I
to say they need I guess what they had last
year from Cal would be probably erroneous, But they do
need him to be the middle of the lineup.

Speaker 14 (01:13:54):
They're getting a lot more from the rest of the
lineup as well. I mean, they eventually traded for Naylor
and Swars last year, but off too going start this year,
Domina camp Jones off toobrin start. I want to say
Roserina's numbers are better than they were a year ago.
I'm a big, cold young guy, and you know, when
you've got a guy who's getting on base of that clip,
that's fine. So this is a much deeper lineup than
it's been a nine years, which takes the pressure off

(01:14:16):
Rally and Naylor and Rodriguez. Not to say that you
don't need those guys, but the fact that this team
has hung around five hundreds and the three of those
guys playing as poorly as they hitting as poorly as
they have Anyway, I think he looked bad as a
positive because you would expect those three guys to address
to their.

Speaker 15 (01:14:32):
To their views.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, I'm castile, doesn't have a win to his name,
and his eras north of six and a half. I mean,
it's like, and those guys you just said offensively, and
you're still right there, probably a much better sign than
the overall record. Joe tell us about the Jochian newsletter
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Speaker 1 (01:15:19):
The Senate tolerates a good word to use. Uh, Tolerating
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That's Joe Shean with the in finesse.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
All right, Love Joe Shean, Love Johan. I appreciate him anyway.
I was just asking just something else, OK, what'd you
think of? What did you what did you think of?
What he said?

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Though?

Speaker 4 (01:15:58):
About Wilson, I complete agree. And it's something where there's
two parts to managing. There's the day to day one
hundred and sixty two game season, which I actually think
Dan Wilson's very good at. It's you know, managing personalities
and everything. It kind of seems like everyone loves to
play for this guy. But then there's the end game
decisions that this is the questionable part, and that rears
its ugly head in the playoffs the most. So that's

(01:16:19):
kind of why that we end up seeing that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Just a big shout out again to our friend Eric
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two five zero five hundred. Yeah, we went a lot
of years without having Joe on for a lot of
different reasons. I'm glad we have had him back on

(01:16:42):
the last couple of years. He's a fun I just
love having the conversation, the castile things a conversation though,
guys like it just is like we can keep bearing
our heads in the sand, but it's just not there.
I think what Joe said, you know, a guy like that,
aging player, velocity down, strikeout rates down, all those things
you know I mentioned. Luke Ark has kind of pointed
that stuff out. It's it's we get to that point
we're like, okay, you know, where are we with this guy?

(01:17:03):
And you've got you've got options.

Speaker 4 (01:17:05):
What do you call it?

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
The Dodger vacation? Yeah, that fifteen day injured list for
the picture.

Speaker 4 (01:17:10):
Yeah, we'll say he did have five starts just like
these last five starts that haven't looked good. The only
time where it's been this bad is in twenty twenty one,
the year before he came to the Mariners, and then
his era, and that was from the beginning of the
season to May twenty ninth, and then from there on
it was two point seventy six so he has had
stretches like this before and he's you know, like right

(01:17:31):
of the way, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
So hopefully that's what ends up happening. But we'll end
up seeing the glass the glass half full? Is this
He's been bad?

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
Until recently, Cal wasn't and I'm not like I think
the best way to And you mentioned this as well.
I know you guys have talked about this on postcasts
and other things. We're talking about, like Cal twenty twenty
five isn't the isn't the bar? Cal twenty twenty four is.
But Cal started looking like normal Cal. We'll just call
it that. Naylor is definitely heating up. There's no doubt
about that. Cole Young's just been a revelation. Like it's

(01:18:03):
we talked about him yesterday Omuliwap segment. If you want
to go back and listen to podcast, I like, you
can't help but love this dude.

Speaker 12 (01:18:09):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
The compete level is massively off the charts. Plays hard,
doesn't like. The arm strength isn't there. That's why he's
a second baseman.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
That's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
I don't need I don't need him pulling a Dave
Parker and throwing a guy out from right field at
home plate. We don't need that he's done, eat Ro,
just you get the ball from second to first. Obviously,
turning double plays can be a challenge when you got
to do the pivot. But like his ability to get
on base, he hits the ball hard, he barrels it up.
You just you gotta love Cole. You found your second basement.
And I always just to bring this up with the

(01:18:38):
Seahawks when they were great in the you know, the
mid times, like we said, well, we've got to get
this guy and this guy and this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
You can't and.

Speaker 1 (01:18:45):
Won't ever have an all start every position. What you
do need if you're going to be a contender in
any sport is you need good players at every position.
Not necessarily all stars are Hall of famers, you know,
and I Seahawks have got to get a you know,
an all pro a right guard back in the day
when Carpenter was playing there, right or whatever. I'm like, no,
you just need adequacy sometimes because you've got such high

(01:19:06):
end players everywhere. Sex right now are currently a good chance,
good good example of that. They've got really good players
everywhere and not a lot of holes or weaknesses. But
you don't need it all pro everywhere. So Cole Young
has been just an absolute stud for them so far
this season, helping them. They're taking on Minnesota tonight again.
And it sounds like I heard Gary Hill on early
with Greg Bell. Sounds like the weather's a lot better
than that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 4 (01:19:28):
Played yesterday, be completely honest.

Speaker 1 (01:19:29):
Yeah, I think baseball's got like you. There's times that
you just got to say no, build a damn roof, man.
But even without a roof, like, just play to today,
it would just play too today. All right, take a break,
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of teases. On the Day of teases, three games, I
got a local note I'm gonna get to in a second.
With three games in the NHL, Tonight, Bruins Sabers, Buffalo
can close out that.

Speaker 2 (01:21:14):
That'd be great.

Speaker 1 (01:21:15):
That's just good story, man, Yeah, just bal Just close
out the Bruins. Nobody likes anything to have to do
with Boston anyway. I heard Mike Rabel's a fan of
the Bruins. Get them out, Buffalo can close out tonight.
Wild and Stars terrific series arguab with the two best
teams in the NHL playing each other in the first round.
That series is todd It two Ducks and Oilers in

(01:21:35):
Edmonton tonight. Anaheim leading that series three games, the one
they can close out the Ducks or the Oilers in
that game.

Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Should point out.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Let me just take a quick peek at something here, Andrews,
that confirm, because I've heard a lot and I get out.
I've heard a lot about how it's a it could
be an upset. I kind of get that, except dox
oiler's one. But yeah, but Edmonton only finished with one
point more than Anaheim this year, so's I get it.

(01:22:04):
They've been to the finals. They've been in the finals
last two years. Yeah, sou so there you go. Ahs
miss the playoffs last Anaheims missed the playoffs h for
a while. Yes, so, but that I think the playoffs
are better with Connor McDavid in it in Edmonton, spoken
like a true Canadian. I like to see a seven
game series. I like seven game series too. Yeah, we're
getting some closeouts already, so don't need that wild and

(01:22:27):
Stars looks like he's gonna go seven anyway, so the
way we go. Anyway, Those are the games tonight in
the NHL. Across the board, I said a text, and
we're back. I want to see which game they're doing tonight.
I think they might be doing ducks. Were gonna get
him on soon. By the way, next week, I think
we might even I was gonna do something with him
Friday I hitd of the Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (01:22:46):
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
We got all of a sudden, our week has filled
up a little bit, So right, is it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:50):
Not, Jess, We're pretty good. We're pretty fad stuff coming up.

Speaker 3 (01:22:54):
I think, Yeah, we've got Palos Hello, tomorrow, We've got
our Yeah, we'll.

Speaker 5 (01:22:59):
Around draft so Stevens tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:01):
The answer is yes, we will get him on. Trust me,
he's chopping at the bits. I need to get on
your show in.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
I love ed I want to have him on this.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
We all love ed Zo. Everyone loves ed Ze.

Speaker 9 (01:23:15):
Want them on.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Yeah, he's he's fine, he's something, all right, let's get
to and him and Johnny on the call on the
National Games for the so so sensational just absolutely love it.
One note I wanted to get to. This is the
local note here. There's a news conference tomorrow tomorrow. Sun
will come out tomorrow in the City of Kirkland, uh kracking,

(01:23:40):
City of Kirkland. They're going to talk about a new
community investment coming to the east side. So that's tomorrow morning.
They're having a news conference with Samantha Holloway, Cracking owner,
Governor Bob Ferguson, and the Mayor of Kirkland, Kelly Curtis.
Can't wait for Bob Ferguson to take Bob Ferguson is
going to take credit for than the Kraken are doing

(01:24:01):
and investing in.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
That, and mayors do, that's what they do. What they do,
that's what they do. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:24:08):
I believe it'll be something along the lines of a
new arena being built. I think it'll be something that
the Torrent can make use of as well, you know,
one of the things. And listen, I get this. I
hear this all the time when Todd talks. A lot

(01:24:28):
of times it's hey, look at Memorial Stadium and Casey
I and thinks we're so excited about what we're doing
there and the building and all that, and people like
that's great. I want to see the hockey team do all.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I understand that, and nobody wants to see that's listening
or I'm speaking to you right now. I want to
see the hockey team do well more than me.

Speaker 2 (01:24:48):
Trust me.

Speaker 5 (01:24:49):
Yeah, it makes your job a lot more fun, a.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
Lot more fun. But what they have done in the
community is pretty awesome. Memorial Stadium is going to be
damn cool. And it was so we just started Dwight
Jane's talking last hour about their Memorial Coliseum in Portland
and how it's just kind of an after like it
just doesn't need to be there anymore, right, our Memorial
Stadium and ers. You probably played there, right, Yeah, think

(01:25:12):
about this. You and I both played there and in
the locker rooms and the bathrooms, nothing changing from the
mid eighties to when you played there twenty five years later. Yeah,
think about that. It needed to be changed. And our
our Seattle City schools, they need a better place to play.
Good for them, I think what they're gonna do. And
every every ice rink in their area is packed all

(01:25:33):
the time, like twenty hours a day.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
And I'm not even exaggerating.

Speaker 1 (01:25:37):
I talked to Kenny and my buddy out there at
thirty feo bar, and girl that Casey I think is
churning out you hockey, you Thocky being is Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:25:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:25:45):
So whatever they're doing on the East SID, they're going
to unveil it tomorrow. I'm excited to see what the
what the actual plans are and what the vision is.
But it's really good, so good for them the way
you go. All right, take a break, we'll come back.
We're expecting to hear from John.

Speaker 5 (01:25:56):
Lent, expecting to hey, listen, he's been messing with me.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
We'll check your tech four nine four five one. We
gave you the sports confession earlier about SVP. We also
talked about the NBA. We had a ton of text. Also,
love to get your talkbacks red microphone on the iHeartRadio
app or the red microphone. Speak into it thirty seconds
or less. Thoughts, comments, questions and concerns and Andrews. Has
he teased us? I had two things. Now I just

(01:26:19):
saw another thing. Headlines coming up next. Okay, I'll do
headlines and then you add to the headline. All right,
we'll do a two man anchor dest so ESPN should
be doing instead of a one man show.

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it's not John is it. No, it's uh, it's ed
so oh nice, all right, okay, headlines. Mariners lose yesterday

(01:27:02):
eleven to four to Minnesota. Game two tonight, Logan Gilbert
is on the mound for Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
That's probably a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:27:10):
Andrews, right, we'll see he pitches like last time.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
Maybe not, but well that's true. That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
He's coming off a bad game. Yes, lovely. Okay, they
lost eleven to four after the rains were falling.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
Just a nightmare. Cal did hit a home run. That's
a good thing. Philly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:24):
Philly's fired manager Rob Thompson nine to nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
Start.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Let's see Diego Pavia Heisman finalists. Undrafted free agents signed
a three year deal with Baltimore.

Speaker 15 (01:27:34):
Good for him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:36):
NBA playoffs tonight, lot's going on Celtics. They can close out, right,
is that right? Yes, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:27:43):
Yeah, let's get the value. Let's get the guy who
doesn't play in a half the games out of the
playoffs plays gaming.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Blazers also can get closed out tonight. The Spurs leave
that series three games to one. Hawks Knicks are tied
two games apiece. In the National Hockey League, We're hoping
the Sabers close out the Bruins because everybody hates Boston
a Sars in a while.

Speaker 5 (01:28:00):
They're two games a.

Speaker 1 (01:28:01):
Piece, and Ducks and Oilers are playing tonight in Edmonton.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
And they're on the call.

Speaker 4 (01:28:09):
They are. Let's go, right, John and ed zor great
reason to tune into TNT there, let's go. You had
two things, I have two things. First of all, this
is not one of the two things. We're still waiting on.
John London answer, of course we are.

Speaker 1 (01:28:23):
Okay, let's do this, Let's do this, let's do that
on the on the backside. Okay, let's start an hour
two and we'll wait for Jess to get a hold
of him.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Okay, sounds good.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
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Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I think he trolls us half the time, so we'll
get to him in a second.

Speaker 3 (01:28:50):
Much much like you, I figured, he lives to create
stress in our lives like much.

Speaker 5 (01:28:55):
No, no, no, much like he does to you.

Speaker 2 (01:28:58):
Oh, I thought, all right, No, I do I know
I create you just like he.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
Does to you.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
So you know, I said, don't bleep up my streak
of making you all time. Talk to you at two
He wrote back, no chance, this is earlier today. I said, bro,
and he said two thirty ish maybe two forty five.
I said, talk to you two o five, And then
I just texted him that we're calling.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
He answer the text, No, okay, Andrews, give me your
two things.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
Hey for analyst's choice, as you like to say, good
or bad thing?

Speaker 15 (01:29:32):
First?

Speaker 2 (01:29:35):
Bad? Bad?

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Okay, it looks like the Vancouver white Caps might be
moving to Las Vegas.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
Yeah, I hate that. Okay, good, we talk. I'll get
to that in a second.

Speaker 4 (01:29:42):
Yeah, because there's a whole club statement that I want
to mention. Okay, good thing. It's probably good for two
of us, not for one of us. The Jets hosted
Russell Wilson for a visit and are considering him as
an option to be the backup to wait for it,
Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 5 (01:30:00):
Smith, Guys, what did I do in a past life?

Speaker 4 (01:30:05):
I cannot scream out in a.

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
Past life for this to happen to my team.

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
Just that is the most Jets thing ever. You're bringing
Geno back. First of all, you're bringing Geno back. That's
number one, number one, so you've already done that. Yeah,
and you're hosting a visit with Russ to his backup,
recently seen looking bigger than me in a Savannah banana's uniform. Oh,

(01:30:36):
it doesn't get any better, does not get any better.
The NFL, the NFL needs this, The NFL wants this.
They demand this to happen.

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
To New York's going to hair him up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:47):
Oh, well, he'll just be the backup to Gino. They
both tell j York he'll he'll be the backup to
Gino until Gino sucks and then it's gonna be like, okay,
let's go to Ross.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Oh I love cook.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Let Russ cook.

Speaker 1 (01:30:59):
All right, real quick before we get to Lund, hopefully.

Speaker 4 (01:31:03):
You talk about the Vancouver thing.

Speaker 1 (01:31:04):
We like call johnn Okay, the Vancouver Yeah, the Vancouver
White Cops are are and we'll get to meet the
statement later, but they are.

Speaker 15 (01:31:10):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:31:11):
Is it done?

Speaker 1 (01:31:11):
The other moving not yet, but it does give me
give me a syn options of the statement real fast.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
All comment on say.

Speaker 4 (01:31:17):
They're looking for someone to buy the team. They've had
conversations with people over the past sixteen months, but and
no viable offer has emerged keep the club here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
They want to, they need to.

Speaker 1 (01:31:28):
They have a stadium issue and I'll call on they
have a stadium issue with BC Place and leases up
and all that can't make the revenue streams.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
Whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
I listen, I know everybody hears a soccer fan. The
Sounders are our most successful franchise in this city. And
it isn't close like they just it's crazy how what
they've done. But one of the coolest things about soccer
in our in our area, going back to the seventies
of the old North American Soccer League, were the rivalries

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with the Portland Timbers, the Sales Sounders and the Vancouver
white Caps, and the Vancouver move and leaves.

Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
It's a crime.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
It's also an incredible socket soccer market. It goes to
the world we live in now. Nobody doesn't matter if
it's on this side of the border or north of
the border. Nobody wants to build a building, Nobody wants
to spend that kind of money. And in terms of government,
they don't want to subsisize.

Speaker 4 (01:32:15):
Talk about the Blazers, and the.

Speaker 1 (01:32:16):
Same thing with the Blazers right now, nobody wants to
subsidize it, but the white Caps moving to the States
would be an absolute crime. And I just god, I
hate I hate hearing stuff like that, and it hits
home all too often with us as well. All Right,
he is here, Let's go Welcome to Ian's weekly visit
with John Lund Unleashed. He's a Bay Area media icon

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who's known Ian for over twenty five years. But don't
let their age change your opinion of them. John takes
you through the Bay Area and the NFC West and
dupes it out with Ian over the.

Speaker 2 (01:32:49):
Niners and the Hawks.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
So let's unleash it now with John Lund.

Speaker 2 (01:32:54):
Here's Ian.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
I think you were just kind of messing around to
mess with Jess, weren't you. That's why you answered the
first time we called you. And I'm all here for it.

Speaker 11 (01:33:02):
By the way she called it one fifty nine, I mean,
I'm sure as hell not picking up one.

Speaker 2 (01:33:09):
I'm not shoe.

Speaker 15 (01:33:10):
I mean, I'm not going.

Speaker 2 (01:33:11):
I'm not going to be reliable before two o'clock.

Speaker 15 (01:33:14):
You know.

Speaker 11 (01:33:15):
One after I see it, I saw it, I store,
I stared at it.

Speaker 15 (01:33:18):
I go, it's one fifty nine, I thought to it.
I go, there's no way, Like I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:25):
Just get Hey, she's busy in here right now. She's
doing her hair. She's got a mc an event tonight,
so she's just she's just doing her thing right now,
doing the hair out.

Speaker 3 (01:33:32):
I'm a multitasker by nature, John Want Managing you is
one of those tests.

Speaker 16 (01:33:36):
What do you?

Speaker 15 (01:33:37):
What do you? What are you MCing tonight?

Speaker 12 (01:33:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:33:39):
There's a charity called Community Carrot. It's an organization that
educates kids while they're going through juvenile detention, and they
educate them so that they can have a solid plan
when they go when they get out. There are several
different business owners that have come out of that organization,
and I like to donate my time to organizations such
as that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:58):
So if you're watching a you tu you're watching on YouTube,
you can see just doing her hair right now as
we speak. She's got the curling iron out and the.

Speaker 5 (01:34:05):
Bottom of it is done.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
You can go check that out.

Speaker 5 (01:34:08):
That's to go get all these talkbacks, all.

Speaker 2 (01:34:11):
Right, we got talk back.

Speaker 15 (01:34:12):
If it was juvenile detention, I should have been I
should have been the MC of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:14):
That and I would have done my hair in a
lot last time.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
That's like that's like bringing the inmates back to talk
to the inmates, right, you know an next conra inmate.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Remember that scared straight? Yeah, it was fantastic stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:34:25):
That was.

Speaker 2 (01:34:26):
Yeah, you were like, I am never going to prison.

Speaker 1 (01:34:29):
It's like, yeah, yeah, tolf of the list of places
I don't want to go.

Speaker 11 (01:34:35):
So you you were talking about the Vancouver white Caps.
So I do this segment on my National show on
the weekends and I said we should be talking about
blank and people call up and it's just totally random stuff, right,
And I got chat and I got to tell you
the truth. I got chat GVG sitting there just like
right there at the bring something up and I'll just
hurry up and like type it in like and I
act like I'm an expert. And so a guy called up,

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and I had no idea that the white Caps of
Vancouver were potentially moving. He was from Vancouver, so I
thought he's gonna talk hockey or something. He goes off
on like the Vancouver white Caps. And as he's talking,
I'm sitting there trying to you know, chat GPT. You
think that's what's going on there? And then of course
I popped to him, Hey man, my yeah, my heart
is out to you man, and guy loved.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
Me because he's like God, no one knows that stuff.
But it's like I do. I'm with you, brother, Yeah,
I'm with you. A good job.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
Well it's but it's like, hey, listen, it's the it's
the standard thing. Need a new building, Nobody wants to
build it, right, it doesn't matter if it's it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:35:34):
That has right.

Speaker 11 (01:35:36):
Let's stop doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
I mean, look at all the money.

Speaker 11 (01:35:39):
I mean, I'm preaching the choir here, but my god,
these teams are making so much money across the board. Now,
obviously soccer is not doing what these major sports are doing.
But god, when these guys are sitting here asking for
money like this new cheap owner the Blazers who like what,
guys aren't going on the road, Guys who are injured
aren't going on the road. That's gonna be a lot
of fun that Blazers team. My god, that thing will

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be out of Portland in no time. Which has a
cheap ass, Well, well.

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
It's funny you bring that up. I think Andrews is
going to find a little clip we had. We had
your friend and my friend, the godfather, Dwight James was
on earlier with us today. I love the god just
curmudgeon like, just like Jia. It hasn't changed and it's
just and you know what it makes for glorious radio,
Like it just really yeah, you just said something. You

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just you just said something. This is this is Dwight
and what was this hour and a half ago? Take
a listen.

Speaker 9 (01:36:33):
Seattle makes a lot of sense to move to Portland.
I think when Dundon made his power play, that was
his backup plan is to go to Seattle and he
could just hitch up a you all trailer and move
everything up there. They've got like three years left on
the existing lease. I think it's to twenty thirty, and

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then anything after.

Speaker 2 (01:36:55):
That is up in the air.

Speaker 1 (01:36:58):
You know what when Clayton be bout the Sonics three
years left on the lease, jeez, now we don't want that.
We don't want that here, We do not want I
can speak.

Speaker 11 (01:37:09):
For everybody, you know how it feels you don't want
to do that. The hell was Sacramento. I mean, I
was stolen Sacramento's.

Speaker 15 (01:37:16):
Team in a minute. But I mean, you guys, you
know your kindred spirits up there.

Speaker 2 (01:37:20):
I get the whole thing. But here's the problem.

Speaker 4 (01:37:22):
Here's the thing.

Speaker 15 (01:37:22):
There's there's like obviously.

Speaker 11 (01:37:24):
You guys have already talked about this, but there's a
huge difference to what Clay Bennett did. And if this
guy just you know, if if they're not if they're
gonna run this thing into the ground, I think it
might be different. But uh, I think, look, I think
you guys have talked about it. I I think Seattle
in Vegas deserve their own teams. I think that the
Sonics that they don't want to be still on a team.
You deserve your own team. You guys have waited way
too long and and Lebron is gonna be part of

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that Vegas team. And look, the league can handle it.
I know there's lots of problems with the league right now.
It is tough to watch you guys. I think you're
really lucky, to be honest with you, that you don't
have a team.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
It's so brutal.

Speaker 11 (01:37:56):
I mean what I know this is a bad word
in this town. It's profanity, But okay, Laoma City and
Shake Guild is Alexander or a joke.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
I mean the way that the game is being called,
they got to change it.

Speaker 11 (01:38:05):
YEA and I hope they do before you get basketball
back in Seattle because the product, honestly, I know you
want it back, and you should want it back.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
And you should get it back. But the product stinks.
I mean, just it's never been worse.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
You're selling me that one guy shooting thirty five free
throws a game isn't good basketball, really weird.

Speaker 11 (01:38:22):
And he's not even a good actor, Like he's like
a porn actor. Like he's just terrible, like.

Speaker 15 (01:38:27):
Venus is guy just got knocked out, was like this
guy just he runs.

Speaker 2 (01:38:31):
Into you, throws the ball up.

Speaker 15 (01:38:32):
It's just like, what are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
They got to fix it because all the.

Speaker 15 (01:38:36):
Game is is three pointers and free throws.

Speaker 11 (01:38:37):
It's like baseball, strikeout, walk or there's three things that
gonna happen in baseball, right, strike out, walker.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Home run. It's the same in basketball.

Speaker 11 (01:38:43):
You're either shooting three or shooting a free throw. And
if your shake Guilds is Alexander, you just pre throw,
pre throw, free throw, free throw. It stops the game.
And they're not even close calls, like they're not even
he's not even a good actor.

Speaker 1 (01:38:55):
No, no, John lonn joining us. Let's let's get to
NFL Draft. Which team you want to Let's start with
the Rams just for giggles. Then we'll get to our
two teams. Okay, let's start with the Ram I'm glad
you started there, Ty Simpson. We all know Max Clary
tight end out Ohio State.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Kegan. I think it's trust.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
At least I know a guy named Trost Keegan Tross
offense tackle from Missouri, CJ. Daniels, wide receiver from Miami
in the sixth round, and Tim Keenan, a de tackle
in Alabama. So they only end up with five picks
for a team that frankly was one play away, two
plays away from not just going but probably winning the
Super Bowl. Now, they did add Watson and McDuffie the
two corners in the offseason, Yes, but what was the

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reaction for your world of forty nine or faithful when
Ty Simpson, for a team that could have taken Sadiq
the tight end and that McVeigh offense or Ruben Bain
junior instead they take a developmental quarterback.

Speaker 11 (01:39:47):
On that reaction, I think that I that I speak
for the entire division and I'm fine with it, is
that when everybody else likes your pick versus what you
could have had, and you could add with Kayle Lemon
in there too, with you know what's going on with
DeVante Adams going to his last year.

Speaker 2 (01:40:03):
That you've played to win the game.

Speaker 11 (01:40:05):
You're playing to win championships. You're not playing to win
ten games, eleven games, twelve games in.

Speaker 2 (01:40:09):
Two turnstiles, moving the.

Speaker 11 (01:40:11):
La rams of Seattle Seahawks and San Francisco forty nine
ers are winning, trying to win championships, and when you're
in a window, that's what you have to do. I
don't buy for a second because I've talked to friends
down there that know McVeigh and he's a lot like Shanahan.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
They're not good liars. I've told her this before. Kyle
Shanahan told me the first day he was hired.

Speaker 11 (01:40:27):
Look, I'm not a good liar, and so John John
Lynch is the good cop and Kyle's the bad cop
because he can't be the good cop.

Speaker 2 (01:40:34):
He's a terrible liar.

Speaker 11 (01:40:35):
And so Sean McVay, I don't buy for a second
that he thought he was gonna get Tysons. And even
if he had a secret meeting all that kind of stuff,
there's a difference. And you know, this better than anybody
in every single sport. The general manager has a long
term view and the head coach has a short term view.
The head coach wants to win this year, the GM
has to think about years ahead. I get it, but
there's a reason also that Matthew Stafford didn't contact this

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kid and his wife texted it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
Texted the kid and.

Speaker 15 (01:41:00):
The reason why he is think about it.

Speaker 11 (01:41:01):
Matthew Stafford sitting there, he just wont an MVP and
he's thirty eight. I ain't what am I gonna do
t tech kid to.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
Steal my job?

Speaker 4 (01:41:07):
That's what I'm gonna do to to help with that.

Speaker 11 (01:41:08):
So his wife Kelly goes, oh, I'm gonna text him. Oh,
go ahead, you text him then, and she did. He's
not going to text him so that he could steal
his job.

Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
He just won the MVP. He's not as.

Speaker 11 (01:41:19):
Transparent as Aaron Rodgers when they took Jordan Love. But
it's the same thing. The players on the team are pissed.
The rest of the division loves it. We don't even
know if ty.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Simpson can play.

Speaker 11 (01:41:29):
And you could tell in that press conference that Sean
McVay was done too happy because like you said, he
could have had some deck, He could have had m
ky Lemon, he could have had Ruben Bain, he could
have had a player that the rest of us in
the division would be going. Damn.

Speaker 15 (01:41:42):
The Rams just got that much better.

Speaker 11 (01:41:43):
And remember McDuffie was basically the twenty ninth pick in
the first round, because that's what they gave up, So
they would have had mcduffy and another guy that they
could contribute. Long even if you're a yeah, even if
you're a huge Seahawks fan, you'd be tough to say
that the Rams hadn't passed him at that point. I
think they did the Seahawks and the Niners a massive favor,
just a huge favor.

Speaker 1 (01:42:03):
They take a tight end and a lot of people didn't,
you know, think was a Day two pick, maybe even
borderline Day three pick as well. So yeah, and after
that it didn't really matter. Okay, let's uh. And by
the way, we're just gonna go ahead and ignore Arizona, Okay,
like we did this stink. Yeah, I mean, Jeremiah Love
congratulate a third overall.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24):
Good lie.

Speaker 4 (01:42:25):
I like the guy, but you can't take a guy
you just can't take.

Speaker 2 (01:42:27):
A run back third. Like what Seattle did was smart.

Speaker 11 (01:42:29):
Although I wonder if and I'm sure you guys have
discussed that, I do wonder if John Schneider had to
do again over again, if you would just take Walker
or just sign Walker the number, because then you don't
have to use that pick, then you probably are able
to trade back.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
You know, well they tried trading. They got, they got.
They all get to them in a second. That was
a weird.

Speaker 1 (01:42:47):
Yeah, Day one draft post. All right, and you were there, Yeah, yeah,
forty nine Ers. Deshaun Stribbling courtesy of Washington State, Oklahoma State,
and Mississippi.

Speaker 6 (01:42:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
If you like receivers at rop balls, he's perfect, then
an edge out of Texas text Romelo Heights. I like
the Black pick, Kaylon Black. I like that pick in
the third round. And then after that, Carver Willis is
a tackle from Washington. He got him in the fourth round.
Here I also got pre socked the cornerback from Washington.
Apparently a lot of Husky love here. What's the reaction?

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What do you think of the forty nine Ers draft?

Speaker 12 (01:43:22):
Terrible?

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
I mean I think it's terrible. They've had trouble with receivers.

Speaker 15 (01:43:27):
I mean, look at Brandon An.

Speaker 11 (01:43:28):
I don't know what's going on with Jawan Jennings and
all those kind of they want too much money and
you know, but Kyle has really struggled with getting wide receivers.
I mean, Ricky Piersall has been terrible as far as
the injuries and everything. And as much as I respect Kyle,
he definitely has final say in what they do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
And I get it.

Speaker 11 (01:43:47):
Strimbling is a good blocking wide receiver. He's big at
about six two two ten, but like you said, and
he runs the four three six.

Speaker 2 (01:43:53):
I get it. But the problem with it is is, look, they.

Speaker 15 (01:43:55):
Had a good offseason and they got Mike Evans and
they traded for.

Speaker 11 (01:43:58):
The d tackle from the Cowboys, and they just kind
of like the Rams. They had a really good off season.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
They really have really bad draft.

Speaker 11 (01:44:03):
And if you look at the statistics over the last
five years, the forty nine Ers draft, it's thirty first
in the league over the last five years. Like they
just they take guys, and I get it, man, everybody
looks at the the board that you know, all the
so called experts put together, but the forty nine Ers,
as far as reaches are concerned, are number one with
a bullet, I mean more than anybody as far as

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reach number versus where.

Speaker 15 (01:44:26):
A guy was supposed to go and when you talk
to him in the press conference, and I was, I
was on the phone on the press conference with it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:33):
They're just defying about it. And they were act point
blank like you know, you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:44:37):
Reach who asked the question?

Speaker 1 (01:44:40):
He just snapped on it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:41):
It was perfect. Yeah, Well they.

Speaker 15 (01:44:43):
Hate that guy anyway, and that one was fair. A
lot of times he isn't, but on that one he was.

Speaker 11 (01:44:49):
And he was just asking and point blank like you
guys have a lot of reaches. I mean, why is
your philosophy different than other teams? And look, the Seahawks
have been in that same boat too, you know where
lots of teams didn't believe in what they were doing.
But what people don't understand to defend the Niners and
the Seahawks too, is that people look at when they
look at these mock drafts, they look at the quality
of the.

Speaker 15 (01:45:09):
Player, but they don't look at the fit.

Speaker 11 (01:45:11):
And there's two things. There's the player and then there's
the fit. And the Seahawks get it. The Seahawks are
really good at fit. The Niners in the past have
been good at fit, you know, when Belichick was around.
The Patriots are good at fit. It's player and fit.

Speaker 15 (01:45:24):
But when these guys do mock drafts, they just think, Okay,
they need a receiver, this is the best receiver.

Speaker 11 (01:45:27):
They need an offensive lineman, this is the best offensive lineman.
It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
So we'll see.

Speaker 15 (01:45:32):
But just on the surface, given what John Lynch.

Speaker 11 (01:45:34):
Has done recently, which is nothing in the draft, terribly
in the draft, and then this year as well, we're stribbling.
The kid out of Old Miss is a big question
mark height. Like you said, he's way undersize and that's
not really what they do, and he's not a linebacker.

Speaker 15 (01:45:48):
Really their best pick. They had a defensive lineman out
of a defensive tackle out of Oklahoma, and they really
need help in the front.

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
That was probably the best thing they did.

Speaker 11 (01:45:55):
But you and I last week when we talked about
this very thing they need. They need offensive lineman. They
need to be able to punch in the face and
run the football. Like you said, they got a kid
out of Washington, but he's not gonna be the replacement
for for Trent Williams long term.

Speaker 15 (01:46:08):
No, don't, I don't get what they're doing. It just
doesn't seem to make anything.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
It's funny, John So John Schneider said something else was
interesting on Friday, I think it was Friday, and he
said he was asked about you know what they've learned, Hugh,
Actually I wrote a Hume mill and asked the question
about being on the same page with Mike McDonald, different
coaching staff compared to Pete and everything else. And he says,
Sander said, I've learned from my mistakes. Because I learned,
we've learned from what we've done wrong. He's basically got
the same guys in place as lieutenants, for lack of

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a better term, the assistant GM's head scout Matt Berry,
Guys like that, Nolan and others like because I learned
from my mistakes. And I kind of as you're talking
about the forty nine ers, literally, I'm thinking the same thing.
I'm like, like, they were defiant, We're gonna take Malik McDowell,
Christian Michael or Sean Page. They were defined about those picks.
And Schneider's like, no, man, you now lookal they've done
the last few drafts they've I don't want to say
it's chock. But they've when you look at the picks,

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every one of them makes sense. I forget I do
forget about Mike Evans going to Fanrancisco. That's a big
addition of the offseason. That's a massive addition for you guys.

Speaker 15 (01:47:04):
Which made it so that they didn't have to reach.

Speaker 11 (01:47:06):
And I guess that was what was show shocking, is
that because they had traded back for a.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
Couple of times, they had the.

Speaker 15 (01:47:10):
First pick in the second round.

Speaker 2 (01:47:11):
For those who don't know, and again I don't care.
You know, you've got your fit.

Speaker 15 (01:47:16):
I understand that.

Speaker 11 (01:47:17):
I understand why they drafted him because he's a physical, big,
fast blocking receiver.

Speaker 2 (01:47:21):
They just lost that.

Speaker 11 (01:47:22):
Kind of a guy with an edge and Juwan Jennings
that's what they're trying to replace. I get all that,
but it just seemed like, like you said, he's got
drop problems, there's issues there.

Speaker 15 (01:47:31):
They just haven't really been able to pinpoint that position
very well. And it's kind of what you just said,
like our way is the best way, and.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
They kind of define it.

Speaker 11 (01:47:39):
But again, Kyle Shanahana has final say that in those matters,
and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:43):
Who Kyle is.

Speaker 11 (01:47:45):
Kyle is definitely one of those guys that's like, oh,
you don't think my way works, and that's not a
great way to draft.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
The Seahawks took Jadarian Price in the first round, thirty
second pick. They tried to move down by the way,
and they they said that after the first round, we
tried to move out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
The road was weird.

Speaker 1 (01:48:01):
Well, I think San Francisco really kind of Probably the
one thing San Francisco accomplished is by trading down twice.
I think they took that ability away from Seattle like
they were a little despondent. They liked the player, they
didn't like where they took the player. I think it's
safe to say Bud Clark, a safety out of TCU,
Julian Neal, a corner out of Arkansas, was full of
all kinds of talk fits well into the mode of

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Witherspoon and going way back Sherman, those guys, big guard
out of Iowa, whether they thought was going to go
way earlier. They traded up to get him in the
fifth round. I say traded up. They traded a fourth
round pick to get into the fifth round to get him.
That's what they thought of him. And then a bunch
of other dudes that are probably borderline to make the team.
But what do you think of Seattle's a roster or draft.

Speaker 2 (01:48:41):
I love Bud Clark.

Speaker 11 (01:48:42):
I mean, I'm sure I'm echoing a lot of people,
but I love Bud Clark. And not a lot of
people were talking. I mean, I know you were locally
but nationally about losing Kobe Bryant, who had just gotten
so much better. And I know how he had come
there as a corner and went to a safety and
he was huge. And I understand how Seattle runs that
defense and you have to have a center fielder who
can sideline to sideline, maybe not like an earl Thomas,

(01:49:02):
but still they can do that and then be able
to free up guys. And so I thought that was
a critical need for Seattle, and here they grabbed it.
You know, could they have used edge, could they have
us you know, there's other things.

Speaker 2 (01:49:11):
Yeah, But people other.

Speaker 11 (01:49:13):
Than you and your listeners are very smart too, as
Seahawks fans know that that's a huge position in that defense.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
For Mike McDonald.

Speaker 11 (01:49:19):
So for him to do that, which allows then em
and Worry to be able to you know, roam a
little bit more so he can I think it's huge
and you got the biggest playmaking safety in the you know,
in the draft. And again, all these draft knicks will
sit there and say, he's only one hundred and eighty
eight pounds and he's only this, he's only that. It
wasn't like Kobe Bryant was this huge guy. It's what
you ask your players to do. So again, this is
where I think the draft guys get it wrong. They

(01:49:41):
think that every safety has to be six two and
two twenty, not the way that Seattle uses that free
safety there. So it's you know, you got to understand fit,
and Clark fits. And I always think this at the
pro level too, that if that, if you make plays,
and this is where I struggle with guys who don't
don't do it at the college level. If you don't
do at the college level, what makes you think you're

(01:50:02):
gonna do at the NFL level. And Clark did it
at the college level, so that would be that would
be my thing as far as price, Let me ask
you a question, because this is just my general philosophy
that I have and I like the kid, I really do,
but I hate relying on rookies, Like if rookies and
this isn't any sport if a rookie comes through other
than like in the NBA, you know, you're like your

(01:50:23):
top five guys. What I'm talking about baseball and football
in particular, where you pencil someone in and what you're
supposed to do is you're supposed to think, well.

Speaker 2 (01:50:30):
If they give us decent production, we'll be happy and
then they'll get.

Speaker 15 (01:50:33):
Better and better better.

Speaker 11 (01:50:34):
Where I look at Seattle because they need that running
game because early in the season last year they ran
it a lot. They just been running effectively, and once
they started to really get it going, that's when it
opened up Dartle and that's when the Seahawks were really dangerous.
It's not that I don't think Price can do it,
but he is going to be counted on now from
day one to do that, and it's that's just a

(01:50:54):
lot of burden to put on a rookie.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
I would I would counter John lynch wise with this
before we know, and that is they had two rookies
that probably put him over the top last year, Nicki
min Worri and Grey's Abel to Guard Like, those two
guys are game changers, absolute game changers and changed the
whole Dime Grey's Abel was the left guard they've been
looking for for fifteen years. And even Worri, we just

(01:51:17):
talk about safeties. I mean, he's a Sam linebacker's masquerading
as a safety. And what held that mad scientist Mike
McDonald's able to use him?

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
He was a game changer.

Speaker 1 (01:51:25):
In fact, that's why people freaked out when he was
hurt going into the Super Bowl. Remember he got hurt
on the Thursday. Yeah, he was questionable and that would
have been a massive get because he Seahawk defense with
Emon Worri and without him, two different defenses.

Speaker 4 (01:51:36):
So all right, what do you doing real quick?

Speaker 15 (01:51:39):
If he doesn't If he doesn't come through and he's
not great, you guys are gonna have a lot of
conversations about why Ken Walker. And look, I like the kid,
I really do like the kid. It's just when you
have to do that.

Speaker 11 (01:51:51):
And you gave two great examples of last you know,
for the guys, for the Seahawks, which is why they
won the Super Bowl. But and and look, running back
he's come in a lot of times. It's not one
of those positions or it takes time.

Speaker 15 (01:52:01):
If you running back is a quick uh you know
way from the college to the NFL that you can
do that quickly, you can make that transition.

Speaker 11 (01:52:08):
But like I said, I just as a general rule,
you don't really want to rely on rookies.

Speaker 15 (01:52:12):
If they whatever they give you, it's generally a bonus.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
I think this kid could do that. Man, it's he is.
He has counted on big time or else. What are
they gonna do? I mean without sharbonnay.

Speaker 15 (01:52:22):
Obviously for a while. What are they gonna do back there?
That's interesting to watch?

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
That's the key.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
Are you still on weekends on Westwood one, nine fifty
on the dollar there?

Speaker 11 (01:52:29):
Look, they're putting me on Saturdays and Sundays. They're putting
me on every Monday now, and so yeah, it's uh,
it's Roland, man, It's it's Roland. And I'm getting all
those calls from the from the Pacific Northwest, getting Vancouver calls,
Seattle calls, to Komba calls. They're going to Bellevue this weekend,
all right, crazy, all you.

Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
People go to Westwood one, kJ R am down nine
fifty and bother one this weekend. All right, I'll talk
to you next week. Butddy take care of all right.
There you go, let's John one joining us here on
the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. We'll take a break. We've got
a bunch of talkbacks, I'm told, yeah, a lot of them.
Let's get to it.

Speaker 6 (01:52:58):
Next from the R and R Foundation Specialist broadcast studio.
Now back to Ian FURNESZ powered by Seattle's closest sports
book Snow call me Casino and Hotel on Sports Radio
ninety three point three KJR FM.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
I'm a massive advocate. I'm getting the Sonics back here.

Speaker 17 (01:53:24):
I was at every Chris Hanson event. I was even
at a mayor's game and started a let's go Sonics chant,
and I'm thrilled at the prospect.

Speaker 2 (01:53:30):
Of getting next Maintent ten here.

Speaker 17 (01:53:32):
But I'll say this, if they pulled the Blazers out
of Portland, they did the same thing to Vancouver, and
they did the same thing to Seattle, they will have
turned their back on our region and told us what
they think of us. At that point, we need to
turn our backs on them, saying we don't want them
ever back in our region again, and not spend one
red pick.

Speaker 18 (01:53:52):
The NBA didn't leave just eighteen years ago for some
of us, they left before that. Remember, when the games
are blowed out from Bellingham to Bremerton. Now the Mariner's
kind of doing the same thing. The Sonics alienated me.
I held the door open for them to leave, and
the game is trash now. I'm in no hurry for

(01:54:15):
them to come back. I don't even watch the NBA.
The NBA didn't leave just eighteen years ago. For some
of us, they left before that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:26):
All right, we'll get to We'll get to a coup
more in a second. We got a whole bunch of
man we got this kind of telling Jess. We have
almost one hundred texts without a contest today, and I
can't get to them all. But I appreciate we've got
some sports confessions all together. That let's get a come
more talk backs and and we'll get to the text.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
Gay, guys, Mike here yesterday the boat. I was watching
a little film.

Speaker 14 (01:54:54):
Up and I watched Getting Up.

Speaker 2 (01:54:59):
He walked the first.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
Guy uh, and then what uh?

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
That's goway to the second level. I don't know what
do you guys think about?

Speaker 14 (01:55:09):
I like the guy, but it's uh.

Speaker 8 (01:55:13):
Ian after your Maya kopa at the start of the
one o'clock hour, Yes, about your feelings about Scott van Pelt.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Yes, I suffer from a similar.

Speaker 8 (01:55:24):
Malady. Yes, I can't stand it whenever I see Adam Silver.
But I've discovered that what I have is a disease.
It's called bald White Guy syndrome BWGS. So don't worry.
You can find a cure an.

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
Type bald guy. I like it as far as both steams.
He's gonna join the show tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
Listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:55:46):
His athleticism is not great. That's why he was a
fifth round pick. But he's a Maller and he and
not Dave Maller or Softy Maller. He's smaller, he's he fun.
Got to talk to him, excited. He's going to join
the show out by the way, right off the top tomorrow,
twelve o'col. We have a couple more when I get you, okay.

Speaker 13 (01:56:03):
And another thing, Yeah, I know my Blazers are gonna
get you know, a gentleman swept by san Antonio tonight, But.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
That just adds to my frustration.

Speaker 12 (01:56:12):
I like.

Speaker 2 (01:56:13):
I don't like Wemby.

Speaker 13 (01:56:14):
I don't like Gumby, the one that can't call the
alien that doesn't understand how gravity works here on Earth
and bounces his.

Speaker 2 (01:56:22):
Head off the floor twice.

Speaker 14 (01:56:24):
I don't like him.

Speaker 13 (01:56:24):
I don't like how they even got him. He shouldn't
have gone to san Antonio. San Antonio doesn't deserve a
good player like him. Daily listener here, Blazers fan. I
can't stand this new owner, Like, I don't understand why
he even was able to buy the team if he
didn't have the money he had to get all these
other people in pony up money.

Speaker 2 (01:56:46):
Jody should have just sold the team to God. I
don't even want to say his name because I hate him,
Phil Knight. But what are we doing here? Like if
they move, I'm like they're hanging.

Speaker 18 (01:57:00):
Thank you for your friends, Ian and I agree too much,
Scott Van help go Mariners.

Speaker 2 (01:57:08):
There you go, hey, Ian.

Speaker 12 (01:57:10):
Seattle sports guy here with another Seattle sports update. Luis
Castile continues his push to be the Savannah Banana starter
and join Russell Wilson on the team, as he gave
up a touchdown to.

Speaker 2 (01:57:21):
The Minnesota Twins.

Speaker 12 (01:57:23):
Also, Brandon Aubrey signed a seven million dollar deal, league
high for a kicker three million dollars more than the Huskies.
Demon Williams the difference million dollars more than the Huskies
Demon Williams. The difference is Brandon Aubrey wants to be
on the Cowboys. Damon Williams holds press conferences to convince
us otherwise.

Speaker 8 (01:57:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:57:46):
Text line four nine four or five one. Nobody cares
about the NBA overpaid guys who could care less about anything.
I literally could care less, says Marcus. Won't watch, but
happy for the people that are happy than in the
middle of that. You're on crack. It's gonna be as
big a Super Bowl. Come on, man, be better. Just
look at the text of zillion, A lot of them
anti NBA.

Speaker 2 (01:58:07):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
I still think it's gonna be huge when the announcement comes.
I think we'll forget a lot of things at that point,
as long as it's not Bretland's team.

Speaker 12 (01:58:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:58:16):
My confession is my sports hate can sometimes be stronger
than my fandom. I'll sometimes root against my team see
X Marors if it means that they're losing, will hurt
the teams.

Speaker 2 (01:58:23):
I hate fact.

Speaker 4 (01:58:25):
I root against the Oregon more than I do against
for anyone else in college football.

Speaker 5 (01:58:29):
Wow, yeah, that is interesting. What's stronger?

Speaker 2 (01:58:32):
Yeah? Five?

Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Well, we're not super excited for the NBA to return
because the game has changed, weren't allowed to change with it.
Most of us don't enjoy the product. There are still
pockets of people to go for an entertainment value, but
it won't have the same buzz as it once did.
Interesting lifelong songs. Family who cares the NBA returns because
the NBA has changed with the twenty years to me,
myself and I versus a team first mentality. Yeah, there's

(01:58:56):
just a lot of anti NBA stuff on here. I'm
just going through it. I mean, I'm seeing all these
on again.

Speaker 2 (01:59:02):
We have it.

Speaker 5 (01:59:03):
The scar prevails.

Speaker 4 (01:59:04):
Sometimes sometimes it's not even the scar though, Like I
don't know, maybe maybe this is maybe naive, but I
feel like, just as John Lunn was saying, he has
a team and he hates the product, right yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:59:16):
Oh yeah, the load management and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:59:18):
And just watching the games suck this one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:22):
NBA is nothing more than a half drank flat semi
warm beer. It's a league of unlikable prima Donna players.
I'd rather run through a sticker bush naked with a
sunburn that supports this league.

Speaker 5 (01:59:32):
Wow, that is white the edicts there.

Speaker 1 (01:59:36):
Let's see, there's some Scott van Pelt agreements along there
along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:59:42):
If we get the trail Blazers, do we also get
the strip clubs, ask Keith.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Yes, yes, yeah, that was a good Yeah. The crop
adults and the dolphin too are all on their way up.

Speaker 5 (01:59:53):
Listen, I've been down there.

Speaker 2 (01:59:55):
They have it. I can concur there.

Speaker 5 (01:59:57):
Yeah, that is beyond.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
Two five three. Totallygree on Scott van Pelt. He's annoying
blank blank blank blank Okay, like like seven to one
nine have been hitting on SVP since he first got
his show years ago. He's super corny. Uh, this is
the one that kind of got to me. I think
it's true four two five ESPN just four people these days.

Speaker 2 (02:00:18):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (02:00:19):
Well that's the thing SVP, stephen A, Jason, Kelcey and
Greeney they do everything and is too much.

Speaker 5 (02:00:23):
That was your point.

Speaker 4 (02:00:24):
Yeah, I just I yeah, I didn't uh what's his
name that McAfee to that, and it's true, No.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Two five three. I don't care either way about SVP.
But my weird take is I love Colin Coward. That's
not a weird take. A lot of people love people
like him. Yeah, yeah, I do think it's interesting. He was,
like I said, I haven't seen I just seen the
trailer he was in the the jail Blazer thing, and
he was never once inside that locker room.

Speaker 5 (02:00:47):
Oh yeah, you said that when that came out.

Speaker 3 (02:00:49):
Yeah, he's a well known guy and he happened to
do radio there at one point.

Speaker 2 (02:00:55):
Two five three.

Speaker 4 (02:00:56):
Can't stand the NBA commissioner, Lord Voldemort.

Speaker 2 (02:00:59):
That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (02:01:02):
Yes, yes, this is this is.

Speaker 1 (02:01:05):
My favorite one about SVP because this is again this
goes back to everyone has their own taste. Sure three
six oh, Ian, you tend to not be my cup
of tea. However, however, you couldn't be more right about SVP.
So I'm listening to you.

Speaker 2 (02:01:21):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, ye yeah. Oh man.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
The last one that came in about his voice inflection
for the Masters, I'm reading it. I can't read it
out loud, but I thank you for that. All that's
softy say that word on the air? I, uh, do
you ever get positive text? I feel like all listeners
are grumpy old men rarely.

Speaker 8 (02:01:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (02:01:42):
I see a lot of shaking fists the clouds out here.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Yeah, let's see, Uh, Jeremy, who is Clifford? And why
do we care what he thinks?

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:01:51):
And we don't.

Speaker 4 (02:01:54):
I'll answer for you. We don't know who he is,
and we don't.

Speaker 1 (02:01:58):
I also don't care about women's water polo that Sarah
Spain told me about that today, but that that took.

Speaker 5 (02:02:03):
Up Ashley Ryan.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
But Ashley's not competing anymore, I know. I'm yeah, And
she would tell you that's a little bit of a stretch. Yeah,
I think I had a little bit of stretch. Okay,
we're good. Yeah, we got zillion text I will we'll
try to do better about reading more texts and all that.
You guys are great man. We appreciate that we.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
Have a lot of voice text that gets you.

Speaker 2 (02:02:25):
Yeah, a lot a lot of them. Okay, Softy joins
us next already, then, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
So you know you've seen this story, right, you've seen
the story that the Jets are bringing Russell Wilson.

Speaker 2 (02:02:50):
This thing work? It is I can't, I know, shut
up on shut up. You know the song Hello, where'd
you get that hat from? Did you get him a hat? Hello? Stuff?

Speaker 15 (02:03:00):
It?

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (02:03:01):
Is really nice coming home?

Speaker 1 (02:03:03):
Did you uh you saw that the Russell Wilson may
be Gino's backup in New York?

Speaker 9 (02:03:07):
No?

Speaker 2 (02:03:07):
I did not see that.

Speaker 16 (02:03:09):
I was too busy watching Russell take AB's for the
Savannah banantas. So he's he's gone. Look he's gone from that,
I tell you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:16):
He looks fat.

Speaker 16 (02:03:17):
Yeah, I have no problem saying that because I'm a
former fat guy myself, as are you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:20):
By the way, he looks chubby.

Speaker 16 (02:03:23):
He looks like he needs to maybe go see my
boy Rocky over at thirty ten, which is now defunct
because of ozembic, but find a way to restart that
bad boy.

Speaker 4 (02:03:32):
So he he uh, he's chunky there, Russ, he is.

Speaker 1 (02:03:35):
He is in New York visiting the Jets, o god
to back up Gino Smith.

Speaker 4 (02:03:40):
Yeah, please make that happen.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Ian Roppaport tweets out, this makes all the sense in
the world. I'm like, yes, it does for different reason
than like you think it makes sense for a football standpoint.
We think it makes sense for the theater. Our by
our guy Tied Dangenzalees from Lockedown Mariners right tweet of
the year. What do you say, Russell Wilson backing up
Gino Smith on the team that drafted Sam Darnold would
be cinema. Think about that jests you got rid of Sam,

(02:04:05):
and you got those two guys coming in.

Speaker 16 (02:04:07):
I'm afraid from my cousin Evan, who would probably walk
in the traffic if they signed Russell Wilson, Russ backing up.
Gino's already up, He's already flipping out. Well, they're just
they're they're they're tanking for right. I mean, this is
just to absolutely get ready for arch Manning next year.

Speaker 4 (02:04:24):
Why would you even bother.

Speaker 16 (02:04:25):
Bringing Russ in though, because you're gonna suck anyway. Whoever,
I have some fun, have some fun, man, how about
Aaron Glenn? How about how about they get how about
Russell Wilson is is h on the field and Gino
Smith is in the tent like Jackson Dart was last
year and the other New York team in the same stadium.

Speaker 4 (02:04:46):
I think that was a home game for the Giants
and Aaron in the tent. Can you get your.

Speaker 16 (02:04:50):
Ass out there so I can get this guy off
the field and it happens to him again with another
New York football team.

Speaker 1 (02:04:57):
Do you think, Oh my god, do you think Sierra
call the Jets and say, hey, can you talk to
my husbands? I want to be in New York account
I don't want to leave New York.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
Well, Colin Cowherd, man, he called that from the.

Speaker 16 (02:05:06):
Starting there No, Yeah, like five years ago he said
that Sierra Russell Wilson in New York City and everybody
slammed him for it. He was the last ye Well,
and again, who knows if that's why he went to
the Giants. It may have just been, you know, coincidence.
But Cowhard said that literally four or five years ago
that Sierra wanted Hollywood to go to New York and

(02:05:28):
he ended up in New York.

Speaker 2 (02:05:30):
So there you go.

Speaker 4 (02:05:31):
I don't know, man, I love it. I but for
the New York media, I.

Speaker 2 (02:05:35):
Pray for a training camp.

Speaker 1 (02:05:37):
First day, we're watching this and there's Gino and there's
Ross and it's just like, see what that two thousand
and twenty twenty one was the last of your Russ
is here. We didn't get trade twenty one twenty one, Yeah,
was his last. Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, they were they were.

Speaker 16 (02:05:52):
Here, they were good. In twenty they were twelve and four.
Remember that was six and two to start off the
COVID year. Yeah, and playing great twenty one all night
and then got beat by the Rams and John Wafford
in the playoff game.

Speaker 1 (02:06:03):
In front of nobody. In fairness, John waffer only played
like one series, but he played. He was their quarterback.
Once he got heard, I know that who was there?
Who was the guy that finished the game for the Rams?
That was Golf Golf with the broken thumb because he
came in. He came in when and like, yeah, because
what he came in with and he played with injured
right now?

Speaker 2 (02:06:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (02:06:21):
Yeah, through about the home game the Ram playoff game
in front of nobody, John started for the Rams. I
think he got hurt and then Goff came in with
the broken thumb and we still lost because I was
working the game with a busted thumb. That wasn't even
supposed to play in the game anyway, because he had
a busted thump.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
Honest, there was Jared Goff. Jared Goff was nine for nineteen.

Speaker 16 (02:06:46):
Is that the game where Russell asked for Pete to
be fired when the game was over afterwards?

Speaker 2 (02:06:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:06:51):
Yeah, Russ was. Russ lit it up that day. He
was eleven to twenty seven for a quarterback running at
seventy two. How did that team go twelve and four
in the regular He said, I don't know. That's what's amazing.

Speaker 9 (02:07:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
They were good.

Speaker 4 (02:07:04):
They were lighting it up early in the.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
Chris Carson's last game with he ran for Sey. How
about this, because this isn't the news lately. Cam Akers
twenty eight carries one thirty one.

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
That's why they signed him.

Speaker 16 (02:07:16):
That's why they signed him for didn Schneider sign Sam
Howell because of what he did for the Commanders when
they came to town. Yeah, and then he saw cam
Akers instead. They're going to have the guy, brother.

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
They're going to have that guy.

Speaker 16 (02:07:28):
Meantime, he's only fifty, you know, compared to that guy
that we saw in two thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:07:32):
Some guy named Cup had seventy eight yards receiving that game.

Speaker 4 (02:07:34):
Signed him to signed him too. Who do they not sign?
Ernie Jones played for the Rams in that game? Was
Ernest Jones a Ram linebacker?

Speaker 2 (02:07:43):
Hang on?

Speaker 15 (02:07:44):
He was?

Speaker 4 (02:07:45):
I think he was? In twenty twenty? Was Ernest Jones
playing for the Rams?

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
Yes?

Speaker 12 (02:07:49):
Or no?

Speaker 1 (02:07:49):
No, no, no, I'm just going through. Some guy named
Aaron Donald.

Speaker 2 (02:07:56):
Played in that game.

Speaker 4 (02:07:57):
He's stunk, is a nobody.

Speaker 1 (02:07:58):
He had two sacks for eighteen year ours lost two
other tackles for the lost bomb three quarterback. Think about
what a tear this son of a gun was. He's
a two sacks, two tackles for loss, three quarterback hits.

Speaker 2 (02:08:10):
He crushed us, just absolutely abused them that day.

Speaker 1 (02:08:13):
Yeah, that's lucky. Mike Trout, he is Mike Trout with
Felix Jeff.

Speaker 16 (02:08:18):
Remember Harney, he used to scratch his face talking to
his kids, so you know his kids. That's how we
said he to his kids. A weekly show with him
in Salt Lake with Horney. He was great early. I
called him Horny Stuck. The horny who was the long
time jazz radio gume would be Honey and he passed
away by Yeah, he was phenomenal.

Speaker 2 (02:08:35):
He was good.

Speaker 4 (02:08:35):
My first jo hero. But it was fine. That's that's
always hartful. My first job in radio.

Speaker 16 (02:08:40):
One of my first jobs in radio was calling all
of the NBA studio hotline couplers at night and getting
audio highlights from all around the NBA for Mike Gastono's
pregame halftime postgame shows.

Speaker 4 (02:08:52):
I did that on the Sonic Radio network. So I
would dial into Joe.

Speaker 16 (02:08:55):
Tate on the Cavaliers Radio network hot Rod Honeley, Utah
hot Rod.

Speaker 1 (02:09:00):
Only with those guys, he yelled me. One time I
was doing when Locke came up here working with you guys.
Once hockey season was over, I did the Jazz pre
and post game on the radio, and you sit courtside
and we're doing a playoff game and it was a
game with Malone went crazy. I think he had fifty
that game against Sallas. And we're in a commercial break
and he's got Malone way into an interview. He's like,
we we have the mail man here. We got the

(02:09:21):
mail man. You gotta stop talking and go.

Speaker 4 (02:09:24):
I went down to go run.

Speaker 2 (02:09:26):
I'm not talking.

Speaker 16 (02:09:27):
It's a commercial. Most people that hear your show want
you to stop talking.

Speaker 2 (02:09:31):
Okay.

Speaker 16 (02:09:32):
By the way, next time we talked, remind me to
tell you about my Karl Malone New York Vinty story.

Speaker 2 (02:09:37):
Oh god, I got it. Tomorrow tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (02:09:39):
Write that down.

Speaker 1 (02:09:40):
Write that down, all you got, Write that down, all
you guys, and your.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
Little notebook there right that down. I can't wat for
that one.

Speaker 16 (02:09:45):
What you got involves Carl Malone's mom. By the way,
to Carl Malone's mom, Karl Malone, New York Vinie and.

Speaker 1 (02:09:51):
Me, I can't wait. That's tomorrow. That's cross talk tomorrow,
miss it now, what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:10:00):
Forty five?

Speaker 16 (02:10:01):
Let's see Sonny Dike's you know him, former head coach
of col now at TCU, Bud Clark's college coach will
join us at four oh five. Sean Alexander will join
us at five point twenty five. Tonight, John Wilner, Brian Schmetzer,
little fun with audio, and we're gonna maybe do a
little eulogy for Luis Castile on the radio program.

Speaker 2 (02:10:22):
He passed.

Speaker 16 (02:10:23):
Well, when we do funerals for guys, they tend to
rise from the dead. Oh okay at the Undertaker. Yeah right,
So it might be time. It might be time to
give Luis Castile his due and see him rise up.
That's a good idea, right, It's Easter Tuesday on the
Softy Show, when Castilla is.

Speaker 1 (02:10:38):
Gonna rise sort of, The Softy reverse chains one hundred
percent

Speaker 4 (02:10:42):
For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the Inverness This
is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,

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