Furness Show 4-6: Mollywhop Monday with Chris Crawford and Nathan Bishop!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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cherry picking your own rebounds to the Atlanta Dream twenty
twenty seven first round pick, twenty twenty eight first round
pick as well.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Let's go. I'm gonna this is okay.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
All joking aside with the baseball team for a second.
I don't know how you can be in sports radio
and in a major league market with a major league
baseball team and you know not if they play three
games over the leakend. When you're playing, not discuss it.
I know people sometimes they'll get, oh, baseball guy's gonna

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get Oh, you can't talk about it too early. No,
you could talk about stuff. I mean, one hundred percent,
you can talk about stuff. I mean, listen, we're watching
the game yesterday during Easter, and you know.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
We got a lot.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
My daughter's got a lot to say about the game.
Like it's the beautiful thing about sports. You can react
to what you see. Yes, you can't react to looking
ahead necessarily, but you can react to what you see.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
And we're not drawing conclusions on the whole sell.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
No, No, I always feel like we have to do
these weird disclaimers now. And it's like, if you don't
want to watch baseball till August, then that's you.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
That's fine.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
If you don't want to talk about it till August,
then that's fine. Go listen to news talk or something
that's that's a really pleasant place to be these days.
You can have all kinds of fun and two of that,
or you can talk about the baseball team and because
there's some good stuff to talk about. I mean, I
put Cooley Young in that category would we not yestely like,
because here's the thing we can talk about the bad

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and the bad would be the starts of nailor the
starts of Cal the starts of Julio. Although Julio's a
weird one. He's got two RBI's and both of those
were big rbi.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, game tying to strike in the n but he's
done nothing else, nothing else, like nothing else, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
I mean, Brendan Donovan's a little dinged up, can't play
defense at least where they had him at at third base,
but he can hit the dudes.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
The dude can rank man. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Uh, you know it's a limited sample size, but don
Can Zone's been fine for you so far. Cole Young
has been a revelation. He's been fantastic. Luke Rayley's bouncing back, Okay,
I mean average isn't there. We got a little pop
to his bat with three home runs, and then you
get into everybody else.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
So uh, there's lot of to discuss.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Obviously, the pitching staff as well, so we'll get to
that coming up with the Mullywop guys coming up here.
And just because I think it's interesting, the three, I
mean they were. You know, I had to look back
because I was like, God, it feels like they've played
a lot of extra inning games, right, and Andrew's just
just off the top of your head. How many extra
games you think they played last.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Year, last year, last year.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yes, I'm gonna say twelve, okay, Jess I said five.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Okay, So they've already played three this season, by the way,
right there, and they're a one and two and in
extra innings this season. They won at home again or
they went on the road Friday, sorry, against the Angels
three to one. They lost yesterday the Angels obviously, and
then they lost at home to Cleveland in ten innings

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on Saturday, the twenty eighth, the first Saturday of the year.
Last year, they played twenty one extra twenty one. They
played twenty one extra inning games last season. They were
ten and eleven in extra innings last season, so they
had ten wins in extra innings. They also had eleven
I mean, like, so they're just a little below five
hundred in extra innings, which probably makes sense the way

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it's set up in baseball with the ghost with the
ghost runner.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I mean, I'm not the.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Home team has such an advantage in extra innings.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Massive advantage, right, massive?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, so yeah, people, but Seattle has its one win
on the road, and it does have a loss at
home this year or three ten any losses. So I
think it just depends on how you've used your bullpen
at that point, right, how you deploy that is, you know,
I mean, because then you get to go by the
time you get to the tenth inning, you've probably used
your closer. You know, maybe at that point you've probably

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used your high leverage setup guy at that point, you know,
and that type of thing. But yeah, they played twenty
one last season. I think they're already I mean, just
looking at the durn numbers, are probably on pace to
do that again this season.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
That's a lot of ext training games.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
The abs stuff we'll talk about with the guys. I
won't even give it away, but there's an incredible stat
I'll just tell you that.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Let Nathan bring it up. That's Nathan stat.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
They're not gonna want to miss the the a the
call challenge staff that he's got coming up.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
It's great, it's sensational.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
So we'll do that coming up to two o'clock today,
We're gonna hit on something that I really wanted to
talk about and I'm glad we have time today today
to do it because there was a great six seven
minutes yesterday on ESPN. Don't say those words too often
these days, but there were a great six or seven
minutes on ESPN yesterday talking about college basketball and the

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state of the game. And I think you could kind
of translate some of it into college football too. But
Jay Billis, Jay Williams, John Calipari, and Seth Davis, Seth
Greenberg and Rees Davis were all on the set and
they had a great conversation. We're gonna play that and
react to it because you know, we went off the
year on Friday, and shortly thereafter found out Zoom Diallo

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is entering the transfer portal for Washington. They already had
lost Maniquitt earlier in the day, two guys that are
really counting on next season, and then I'm looking around
today and this is not a U Dub thing. I mean,
we've lost everybody on Pullman too. You just rebuild a
roster every year. That's what teams are doing.

Speaker 3 (06:51):
But like big.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Programs, programs that were you know, Sweet sixteen, Elite eights
and potential Final four teams losing guys, Arkansas one of
their best players, Kansas losing a starting player, and going
to the portal like it's.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Just this weird wild West.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
But on the eve, you know, on the day of
the National Championship game, we're gonna touch based on that
a little bit and talk about what we're gonna see
and and and where it is, because I just I
there's some things that just as a college sports fan
frustrate me. I had this conversation on Friday with I
do like a little Friday Happy I with a couple
buddies in Maple Valley and we were out. I was
talking about it with my buddy Dee Henny and and like,

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I'm just not.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
The guy and this is gonna be bad.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
And Jess if our friends at Wazoo and the Collective
and goog Fan, all these guys get mad, They're gonna
get mad. I just can't fathom writing a big check
or anything for these for these athletes, for Niel And
I know it's like that maybe that makes me a
bad fan or I can't be a fan if I
don't want to check, because like if I wrote a
check this year, and again, I'm not picking on Washington.

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But I think they're a better example than our school
because their budget was higher. Yeah, if you wrote a
check to Montlake Futures or whatever the collect how are
they work it nowadays? And you paid for Zoom Diallo
or helped pay for Hannes Steinbach or whoever it be,
Big Frank, you know he plays once or twice a year.
I mean if you if you did that, what was

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the return on investment? Yeah, you got you won one
game in the Big ten tournament and you didn't get
to the n t much less the NCAA tournament.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
You know, last year a lot.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Was made about how they had great osa bor was
getting close to a million dollars and even if it
was getting half of that, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
They finished last in the Big ten.

Speaker 2 (08:39):
You know, I see our guys aren't well lazoo guys
aren't making a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Good.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Look, maybe you get what you pay for, but good
like to do what to get beat by Seattle? You you know,
to get knocked out in the first round of the
WCC tournament, Like what are we paying for?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
What is your return on investment?

Speaker 2 (08:56):
And because and the bigger problem I have with it
is like this year, Like, if there's a return on investment,
it should be that the guy has to stick around.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
For more than a year. I agree, that's the problem
I see with it.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
If if I'm a fan, I don't want to pay
for a guy to come in and be a higher
gun and then he decides, well, grass is greener. Lawan
Watts played at WAZU last year. Good player team obviously
didn't get to the tournament and they kind of fell
apart at the end. But the team last year, David
Riley's first year was better than this year's team. But
Lawan Wats good player, started his career at Eastern Washington.

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Eastern Washington for a year, coach goes to WAZU, so
he follows in there.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Okay, I guess it makes sense that happens, right.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Guys do that goes to WAZU for a year, has
a good season. Texas Tech pays him a bunch of
money to go down there and play with with Toppin. Obviously,
he got hurt, so they didn't go as deep as
they thought they would This year at Texas Tech that
could have been a potential Final four team without before
they lost Topping. But he goes there three teams in
three years. He just put his name in the portal.
He's gonna be playing four teams in four years.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Like, how do you even that's not a team?

Speaker 3 (10:00):
And would you and what you pay for? You paid
for a guy to go there for one year? I
don't know. I'm old man yelling at clouds. I get that.

Speaker 6 (10:10):
No, that's not that's like, I'm sorry, I'm I was
an athlete.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yes, I just think it's really a hard team.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well, and the push now is to limit transfers, right,
I don't mind. If you're gonna pay guys, good, get
these kids what they're worth, Like if they're making, if
they're generating money for a school, then pay them what
they're worth. That's great, pay them what they're worth. But
also there should be some sort of penalty if you leave,

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because and that was that way forever. And when people
say coaches can do it, I agree, But guess what happens.
A coach has to pay a buyout if he leaves, right,
so you lose your coach. There's a buyout involved. The
school benefits from that, right, at least financially, the player
can just come and go collect his hundred thousand dollars

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is five hundred thousand dollars and leave. I just don't
think that that is First of all, I don't think
it's sustainable. I think that's the biggest thing.

Speaker 7 (11:11):
There's the way it's like, do we have to go
into the crevas to climb ourselves back out with this one?

Speaker 2 (11:15):
All right, let's we'll take a break, come back, Mollywop
guys standing by Nathan Gris, will look at the Mariners
first week and a half or so of the season
that's coming up next.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 3 (12:15):
All right, here we go.

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I know my man Chris Crawford does as well.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
My wife still thinks the Kingdom exists, So that's always
a fun conversation.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
Want to put that hoodie on. No, honey, it does
not only in our our distant memory.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
So that's what it is.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
Along the way, all right, the week that was not great,
Yankees Angels. But we always start off with opening statements.
I'm gonna change it up today because I like is
what he's going with, Radick Bonk. I'm not read the
IM gonna read the rest of it all. If Rodick

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Radick Bank, if your horny, it says right there, that's
our guy.

Speaker 7 (13:51):
Chris Craft was a nice little player for a little while.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Very much.

Speaker 8 (13:57):
Just for the record, I.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
High missus Bishop, sorry about that. Yeah, this was a
frustrating week. And here's the thing. It's easier in baseball
to have confirmation bias than any other sport, right because
whatever you want to think about a team, if a
player gets off to a slow start, especially in a
sport like baseball where you fail seventy to if you're

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very very good sixty percent of the time, it's really
easy to say, oh, I told you this guy stinks, sir,
Oh I told you this guy's really good based on
a ten game sample as well, And that can be frustrating.
And we have now last week I mentioned we played
two point four percent of the season. Now we've played
one sixteenth of a season, so we've basically played If

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you want to do the football analogy, we've basically played
one football game and it wasn't a very good football game.
It was a football game that I would be disappointed in.
But it is just one football game, and there are
some positives to take I think the starting pitching, outside
of maybe two starts out of the ten, has been outstanding. Yeah,
I've been really impressed with the bullpen. I've been really

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impressed with Cole Young for the most part. There are
positives to take away, but this is another slow start.
It's another year where I wanted them to get off hot.
I wanted to see them get off to the start
that makes you go, yeah, yeah, this is what we're
talking about, and we're gonna do this all year and
it's gonna be dominance. But it's not that. It's another

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year where if you have too many four and sixes
in your of these sixteen that they'll play, things can
go real bad, real quick. I'm not saying it will,
I'm not predicting it or anything like that, but it's
disappointing that it happened again.

Speaker 8 (15:44):
Nathan, Oh, we're calling this a soft launch, right, and
that what's going on right now?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
It's like, are you thinking, yeah, it's a soft launch, Yes, exactly,
it's a soft launch.

Speaker 8 (15:54):
I think people are probably pretty familiar with the phrase
inside each of you, there are two wolves. And when
I'm coming this opening statement, there are two wolves inside
of me, there's one that just wants to laugh because
I think it's funny how quickly this team is reminding
people that as fun as last season was, outside of
winning seventeen out of eighteen games down the stretch in September,

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most of the year they were a pretty up and
down mediocre baseball team to watch day in and day out.
And it's funny to see that recalibrate so quickly. I
saw a media member here say that the floor for
this team was ninety five wins and that kind of
hyperbole before the season started. It's funny to see outsized

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expectations and hype immediately run into the reality that is
the day and day out machinations of baseball. That said,
the other wolf man, the Mariners are fine. They're four
and six, they're two games out of first I just
drop in a little stat there's sixteenth in baseball and
home runs, which doesn't sound great except that you remember
that's like middle of the road and they've gotten exactly

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zero home runs out of Julio Rodriguez, Josh Naylor, and
Cal Ray. I think they're gonna hit some home runs
this year, and then at that point this team is
quickly going to find it stride on offense. I think
that the foundations are in place for this to be
a pretty good offensive ball club. There are still I
already said, they're only two games out of first The
starting pitching, to Chris's point, has looked a lot more

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like twenty twenty three twenty twenty four than it did
twenty twenty five, and that is hugely encouraging because that
is going to be the part of this team that
can make them a legitimately great team. So you know,
it's funny to watch them screw around. It's fun The
way they lost on Saturday night is one of the
most amazing baseball games I've ever seen in my life.
I think it's one of the most amazing sporting things.

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Watching Joe Adel rob three home runs in a one
to nothing win. I think that's like Tony Douks scoring
fifty points in an NBA game. But look, you want
to be upset about it, you can be upset about it.
Four and six stretches are no fun. The Angels suck.
Losing a series to the Angels sucks. But they're fine, man,
Like it's ten games of baseball, be fine. The Seattle

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Seahawks have lost so many games of the Arizona Cardinals
and it's fine. We just move on. You know, we've
got another week ahead of us with some better competition.
But the cool thing is when the next two weeks
of baseball they're playing some pretty good teams. The Mariners
are a better team than every single one of them,
So just go play better.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
By the way the couple things won the football analogy,
the Seahawks did lose game one last year to the
Saisco forty nine ers and came back that did Okay. Yeah,
so if we're gonna go with.

Speaker 8 (18:30):
Something, Karee Wollan remembers that I think I.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Just remembers too much good stuff, too much good stuff.
There a MPM I did have this week for folks
that we've talked about before. We do it on Zoom
Slash streamyard, depending on what's working for our system that day.
So we see each other that the look on Chris's
face when you mentioned what was it? Ninety five? Is

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the floor that was someone said that this.

Speaker 7 (18:56):
Well, I'll talk to you during the commercial break about
who that guy is or a person is, because we
got to have a conversation.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Wouldn't you take ninety five right now as a floor
like I'd take it right now?

Speaker 3 (19:10):
Yeah, I take it.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
It's the ceiling second most wins franchise history. Yeah, I'll
be the second most wins in franchise history if they
get I'd take that.

Speaker 3 (19:17):
I would take that right now.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Let's talk about some of the good for a second
before we get to the guys that aren't hitting. Uh, Chris,
go back to you, Cole Flippin' Young. I just, I mean,
what a cool thing to see. It looks like you
really you know who your second basement is for the
foreseeable future. I know it's a short sample size, but
we saw flashes from him last year at times too,

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like we did see that. And then there's a guy
named Polanco that ended up playing a little bit there
that was okay, But otherwise, I mean, we saw that
a little bit last season. You know it's gonna come
up with cold Emerson here at some point. The middle
of your infield looks to be pretty well set, Chris.

Speaker 7 (19:56):
Yeah, it does like that has a chance to be
a really special middle of the infield. Old And I've
been nothing but impressed with what I've seen Cole Young,
not just at the plant, but defensively. I've just taken
a look today out above average, he ranks in the
eighty seventh percent tile of all major league players this year.
The defense has been good. He's not fun to watch throw.

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There are a lot of LOLLI gag adjacent throws because
the our strength isn't great. But boy, his range has
just been awesome. And what's really impressed me is just
how much better he's looked against left handed pitching. I
believe all of his home runs but all of the
two of them have come against left handed pitchers. So
that's been nice to see and be able to hang

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in and wait for those breaking balls and picking up
the baseball. Well, I've been really impressed with what I've
seen from Cole Jung. And you know, it seems like
we just know is he as good a prospect as
Colt Emerson. Absolutely not. But that's more compliment to Emerson
than insult to Cole Young. Cole Jung was a top
fifty prospect when he got called up, and he has
a chance to be a well above average major league regular,

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and those are special things to have. Cole Young is
a guy that you should be talking about a contract
extension with. It's not an insult to him. He's not
as good as Emerson. He's certainly going to be better
than JP Crawford, who is certainly in his last season
I think as a Seattle Mariner. And that's not even
an insult to Crawford. This is all about compliments to
Cole Young. I've been very impressed with him in these

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first nine games ten games.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Sign him right now, Nate, sign him right now. Get that.
Let's just let's wrap him up.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
I think, yeah, I think the thing with Young two
just to add on to that. And this is not
trying to doom doom cast Cole Emerson, who I love
and have loved since the second the Marion has drafted him.
But it's important to remember the just because a guy's
ranked higher on a prospect list doesn't mean he's going
to be a better major League baseball player. You think
back to college teammates Dustin Aclee and Kyle Seger, where

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Dustin Actlee was the greatest college hitter of a decade,
the most can't miss bat that had come out of
the MLB draft in a long time. And then it
was his teammate Kyle Seger, the guy that nobody, everybody
thought was made be a UTL guy that ended up
having the you know, hall of a very good major
league career. So, you know, let these things play out.

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There's no there's absolutely a scenario here where Cole Jung
ends up becoming the jewel of this class of guys
that the Mariners are in the middle of graduating of.
It's it's awesome to see, man.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I like the comparison a lot, uh it just in
terms of what you just said, because yeah, Dustin Actley
was the you know, overwhelming number two pick and he's
going to be the guy and everything like that. And
then you know, like you said, Kyle Seger, his teammate
becomes the better player when it's all said and done,
But you don't know what's going to happen. I think
it's just encouraging to say, you know, the one listen,

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the one legitimate criticism that we had for Jerry Depoto
outside of when he sometimes says things that make people upset,
but one of the legitimate things was for a while
it was just Julio and now Julio and Cal, you
didn't you weren't developing position players, right, Chris, Isn't that
like that was a legitimate complaint And now we're seeing

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position players being developed in the organization.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Yeah, And I think you can still have that complaint
because we still need to see a longer sample of
Cole Young and Colt Emerson. But like you see what
they've done with bats like lazarro Montes, who has taking
a big step forward since they signed him in, Mike
l Royo and Johnny Fermeto. All of these guys have
a chance to be among the best regulars they've developed

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in the last twenty five years, which is a little
bit of an insult going the other way from what
I was just talking about to the bats that they
developed under the Depoto era. But there's some really nice
things happening. And I can just tell you as a
guy who talks to a lot of front office people,
the Mariner player development system was a joke under the
Gerendic and Chris Gwin years, not considered a joke anymore.

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People really have nice things to say about what they're
doing right now.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
Chris, let me stay with you just for a second.
Cold Emerson. It happened after we were on last week.
Cold Emerson contract thoughts.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
I love it. I think it's a win win win
for everybody. I think it's a win for the Seattle
Mariners to get a core position player locked up. It's
a win for Colt Emerson that he doesn't have to
be paid, not nearly what he's going to be worth
for the arbitration. And it's a win for Seattle Mariner
fans because it shows a little bit of a commitment
because you don't have to do something like this. But

(24:23):
I do think, you know, a big portion of this is, yeah,
the Mariners are paying more for Colt Emerson than they
would for the first three years. They could be saving
a you know what ton of money by doing a
deal like this and arbitration and also buying two years
out of free agency as well. So a win win
system that, if we're being honest, is only a win

(24:43):
for the player because baseball has such an archaic system
set up.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah, Nathan, I think that this is not Evan White.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
This is a guy that they truly believe in, and
it is, i mean, god life changing money for the
player in a sport that has free agency doesn't start till,
you know, like thirty two years old. It feels like, like, Nathan,
this just feels like a win all the way around.
Maybe more so for the player initially, but as Chris
mentioned later on, for the team too.

Speaker 8 (25:09):
Yeah. Absolutely, it's a huge win for cold Emerson. It's
hard to get intangrous about it. I would love to
be able to figure out a way to do it
other than the fact that I do think that before
you go patting the Mariners on the back for, you know,
spending money, keep in mind that they did this because
they think they're going to save money.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
That's the Maining's a good point.

Speaker 8 (25:28):
But for cold Emerson it's fantastic. It doesn't matter. Like
if you said I can't have ninety five million dollars
now or maybe have two hundred million dollars in a decade,
I'm taking the ninety five million and I am running.
And for cold Emerson, he's still going to be a
free agent before he hits thirty in this argument, so
he could potentially still get that big fat contract at
the end of his twenty So it's huge. It's it's
fantastic for Mariner fans too, because it shows that it's

(25:51):
it's kind of a chance to right the wrong of
whatever happened with the Jared Kilnick situation, where they had
that super prospect that they were trying to get to
sign up contract like this, and for whatever reason, the
relationship just didn't come to fruition and it didn't happen.
And then it turned out to be probably a good
thing for the team because Kelnick didn't pan out. But
it just is nice to see these things, those kinds

(26:13):
of errors not be repeated and see a guy like
this get locked up and be a part of the franchise.
The cool thing is now, when he debuts, you don't
have to worry about this guy getting traded. You don't
have to worry about him being somebody that the team
is looking to get rid of. He's ours the second
that he graduates and we have him for nine years.
That's a really cool thing.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
All right, Let's get to the not so good stuff.
Right now, and Chris, I'll just give it up, you know,
mollywop choice. Here we can talk about Julio and his
thirteen strikeouts and thirty nine at bats, hitting one fifty four,
just two RBI and no home runs. We could talk
about cal who has struck out now twenty times in

(26:55):
thirty at bats this season, does not have a home run,
his hard hit rates win down four RBI's nailor his
numbers are even worse, and all the above, except for
he's only struck out five times. So I'll throw it
to you, Chris Crawford, which of those guys are you
most concerned about? Even if you're not really concerned as
we're only ten games into the season.

Speaker 7 (27:18):
Yeah, I'll just be honest, I'm not concerned about any
of them. But I suppose if I'm concerned about one
of them, maybe a little bit Julio, just because of
the fact that this is trending towards being another one
of these starts. So, you know, and I'll say this, Hey,
two RBI, two of the biggest RBI. He can have

(27:39):
both of them. Game tying RBIs.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
To the times, right, yeah, both yeah?

Speaker 7 (27:45):
Yeah, So I mean, hey, if twenty of your one
hundred percent of your harbis are game dying in the
ninth inning. That's not so bad. But you know, and
I've seen some hard contact from Julio. He's just not
driving the baseball. I'm not worried about the strikeouts so much.
I'm more worried about the fact that it's a lot
of dink and dunk stuff. But I'm not worried about
any of the three. I'm just not I can't over

(28:05):
at ten game sample sized, guys. It's just far too small.
And that's one of the things that brought up with
confirmation bias, is that you just can't go here we
go again based on this smallest sample. Not in my
humble estimation anyway. But if I had to pick one
of the three, I think it would be him, Naylor
a close second, and big Dumper a far far away third.

(28:28):
To be completely honest with you, but made me pick one.
And that's why you're a good radio host.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So I'll do the same things with you, Nathan. The
good thing is with Nathan it won't be hard. He'll
pick all three. But no, Nathan, no, this is good.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Radio because I actually, I actually think that the one
that I find the most concerning is Cal for a
couple of reasons. One, I love Cal. He's the one
that's earned the most respect and the most patients out
of those three, and all three of them have earned that.
To be clear, I also want to make it clear
that I'm not actually worried about any of them. So
that's Chris's caveat that I'm borrowing. But with Cal, this

(29:01):
is a guy who before last year was a really
good hitter for a catcher. But that's what it was.
He was a really good hitter for a catcher. You
put him at first base or a less premium offensive position.
His offensive profile is very home run dependent because of
the high strikeouts in the low batting average. That's a
narrow path to walk towards major league productivity offensively speaking.

(29:26):
So combine that with the fact that this is a
guy who has played a ton of games behind the
plate since he's debuted in Seattle and is now approaching
thirty years old, I can make a case where you're
starting to see the skill set erode a little bit.
I don't really buy it, but that's the one that
I see. Like Julio Man, I've seen Julio do this

(29:47):
his entire major league career. This is just what he does,
and then by July he's gonna be the best player
in baseball. Josh Naylor has a proven track record of
being a very solid bat to ball hitter. He and
Cal should already have a home run f one the
weird stuff happening on Saturday. But with Cal, I've just
always felt like it wouldn't take much batspeed erosion or

(30:08):
much contact lost to start really redlining how much he
can not put the ball in play before you start
getting worried. And he's definitely that player right now. That said,
he's gonna hit ten home runs in the next three
weeks and then none of us are going to care.
But that's the one that I would make the case
for well, and I.

Speaker 7 (30:25):
Can I just counter in that real quick as because
I totally agree with what Nathan is saying, And I
will say this, when cal Rawley's skill set does a road,
it's going to be ugly, because this is what's happening
with catchers. But the fact is his bat speed is
in the eighty fourth percentile right now. It's not a
lack of batspeed. He just can't see the frickin' baseball
right now. And if you need proof of that, take

(30:46):
a look at the challenges he'll end up picking up
the baseball here. And the fact that he's still swinging
a stick at seventy four point six miles per hour,
which is well above average, is probably the reason that
I'm the least concerned.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh, you know what's an interesting thing, though, guys that
you bring up the bat speed we are. Guy Eno
Saras was on with us every week on Thursdays and
he brought this up, and there was a lot.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
There's a batspeed decline though for all those guys plus
Randy that we talked about. So maybe that's the cold weather.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Maybe it heated up this week, and I'm gonna ask
him on Thursday because maybe it changed. Maybe that maybe
because they were playing in the eighties in Anaheim and
you said Saturday night was weird.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
I mean you have a fence. Yeah, you have a fence.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
It's like what three feet high, you know, and a
guy jumping over, an jumping over, just leaning over it
to take home runs away. I mean it's you know, shocking.
Mickey Mouse stadium, Mickey Mouse fence, and Mickey Mouse results.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
So one of the worst outfielders in baseball over his sixties.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Isn't that the wild thing? Isn't that the wildest thing?

Speaker 7 (31:47):
I mean, first percentile and it's not good to be
in the first percentile of out's above average a couple
of times in his career. And he robs three Seattle
Mariners homers, all huge, huge that did you guys see
the board they put up. Don't hit the ball to
Jordan Adell, by the way, Yeah, not his name, Joseph

(32:08):
Adell was what they said. I'm sorry. And number two. No,
that's a great strategy. Joe Adell's due for some terrible defense.
Goodness gracious, that game just frustrated the ever living crap
out of me.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah, it was. That's one of those. That's one of
those games that just is gonna happen. Right, You're gonna
in the course of one sixty two you look back,
remember that game.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
That was just weird. Okay, we come back. Uh.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Nathan has a stat for us. I tease this in
the start of our show today at one o'clock. Nathan
has a stat and it's a stat you'll love.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
He'll give that to you.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
A look ahead of the week that is coming up
as well, with the trip to Texas starting tonight.

Speaker 3 (32:45):
We'll do that next.

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Speaker 3 (32:51):
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Speaker 3 (33:39):
All right, Nathan, let's get to it. What's your stat?
What's your stat?

Speaker 8 (33:43):
You got well, I was going to lead into it.
I'm really glad that you cut us off, because Chris
was talking about cal Rawley not being able to see
anything and that being reflected in just the awful way
that he has used the new ABS Challenge system. However,
thus far that has not been an indictment on the team.
I was looking at some data before we came on air,

(34:04):
ranking all of the baseball teams in their win and
loss at the ABS Challenge. The Seattle Maritons are currently
above five hundred. They are thirteen and eleven, which I'm
not great at math. I was a music major, so
you can check it. But if I've done the arithmetic correctly,

(34:24):
that comes out to a fifty four percent winning percentage
on the ABS Challenge system Sadly, at this time, that's
seventeenth in Major League Baseball. So the fifty four percent
would not get them into the playoffs here. However, if
they keep this rate going for a decade, I think
that it's likely that they would make the playoffs more.

Speaker 4 (34:42):
Often than not, more often than not.

Speaker 8 (34:44):
Okay, anyway, sorry, I know that's I know that's the
easiest joke of all time.

Speaker 3 (34:48):
But fifty I'm a fifty four percent.

Speaker 8 (34:50):
What do you want from me?

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Fifty four percent?

Speaker 7 (34:56):
We'll never get away from that number, my man, it's
just forever.

Speaker 8 (35:00):
If they can win the next three World Series, I'll
still make those kind of jokes. I just don't care, man.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
I would rather either here my nieces make a billion
six seven jokes over here in fifty four for the
rest of my life.

Speaker 9 (35:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:12):
What do we think, Chris? What do we think of
the ABS system? Yes? No, good, bad?

Speaker 7 (35:17):
It should it's better than what we had. It shouldn't
exist because it should just be all automated. And I'll
tell you this anyone who was complaining about like this
is gonna take so much time. Guys, if you watched
the games, has this affected the time to these games
at all? Absolutely not. It's just like Dennis, they have
a quick challenge, they show the play, it's over with.

(35:37):
Like I think the Mariners need to get better at it.
I think they probably need to figure out who can
do it and who can't. When I saw Luke Rayley
use one against the left handed pitcher, I just about
ordered cement shoes online.

Speaker 10 (35:50):
But I.

Speaker 7 (35:53):
Think it's a good thing, and it's certainly an improvement
over what we had before. But boy, there are some
Seattle Mariners too, just stink at it right now. And
unfortunately one of them.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Is big Yeah. Yeah, the dumper. Yeah, the dumpers.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
The dumpers not had success with it along the way
I was thinking earlier.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
You know, it's it's part of me, like we're gonna
highlight the C. B.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Buckner things, right and and all of that, and you know,
I mean there's listen, there's bad umpires, there's guys that
shouldn't be up. I mean, I I think this should
be used, honestly, Fellas I think more and more when
you're evaluating umpires at the end.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Of a season.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
You know, like this, this should be part of the
evaluation process, Like you're not good at your job, and
there are guys that are. There's guys that are really
good at it. Chris Chris is more Chris is more
of a hockey guy than than Nate Chris. I kind
of brought this up last week. To me, it's kind
of like, I think, one of the hardest things. But
it's a black and white call. Uh to do in
sports is call off sides in hockey. It's so quick,

(36:51):
it's it's a disc, a rubber disc on ice with
a blue line going to white.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
It's just and yet when you watch it, those guys
are right about ninety eight percent of the time. It's remarkable.
And when we're watching baseball, these guys are right most
of the time. There are some, however, that are frankly
just not good at it and they probably shouldn't have
that job. It's as simple as that.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
Yeah, and you know, this is probably gonna weed out
some guys. This is probably going to be something where
you know, and by the way, this is why the
NFL full time officiating. This is the obvious reason for it.
For it because you want these guys to get better
and work at it full time, right, Major League Baseball
guys full time work at this thing. Yeah, there are
just some guys who aren't very good at it, and

(37:38):
it becomes much more obvious with some of this challenge stuff.
There have been a couple of umpires who have been
flat out embarrassed. We saw it in the Yankees series
where there were like five challenges in one inning and
that umpire was I can't remember the name of him now,
and I don't want to know his name because he's
not good at his job, but he clearly wasn't frustrated
by what was going on there. This is gonna weed

(37:59):
out some guys, and honestly, I think that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
All right, let's let's look ahead to the week coming
up three in Texas against the Rangers and then an
off day Thursday and kind of a weird series Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday,
okay against the Houston Astros.

Speaker 7 (38:17):
Is it so long?

Speaker 3 (38:18):
Is it a holiday next Monday? Am I missing something?
Why is? Why are they playing on a Funday? I
don't know.

Speaker 7 (38:24):
Yeah, they used to do it all the time, like Friday, Saturday,
Sunday Monday series used to happen all the time. But
I think this is just a weird, weird kink in
the scheduling. Then I believe that they have three games
in San Diego or something like that. Do that, But
I do have to admit I got a little nostalgia.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Let's let's go ahead.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
So the Texas three, Texas three step and then we've
got three from Houston that we'll talk about.

Speaker 3 (38:49):
Well, we will be on the air before the fourth one.
So over the.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Next six games against these teams, Nathan Bishop thoughts.

Speaker 8 (38:56):
Well, like I said in the first segment, definitely an
increase in competition level over the Los Angeles Angels, who are,
you know, one of the worst teams in the American League.
So the Marions are gonna have to play a lot
better on the field. You know, the Astros have gotten
off to a really hot start offensively. Jordan Alvarez appears
to be healthy, and as long as that's the case,

(39:17):
that team is going to be able to thump because
that guy is one of the five best hitters in baseball.
But the Mariors are still a better team than both
of them. Top to bottom on the roster. They just
need to start playing like it. And you know, if
the big three that we've been talking about have another
rough week, am I gonna push the panic button on them?

Speaker 3 (39:35):
No?

Speaker 8 (39:36):
But this is the week after the first game in
the NFL schedule where I'd like to see them start
getting their feet under. Maybe not all three, but maybe
two of them. Maybe Julio has you know, a homer
and a double tonight or something like that, and then
Calgo's yard tomorrow, Naylor has a couple good games, and
then when we talk in a week, we see those
guys look better. I just want to see him, you know,
I want him to go four and two. If they

(39:57):
go three and three, I'm going to be fine, but
foreign would be fantastic. Just play better baseball.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
Man.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Texas has lost I believe, four straight games, all right, Chris,
the same thing.

Speaker 7 (40:07):
Yeah, absolutely, But it's time to win a series. They
have not won a series to begin the year, and
you know, it took them a little while to win
that first series as well in twenty twenty five and
things worked out okay, but not the best. And I
want to see them start winning series. You gotta win
one of these two. You gotta win one of these two.
Series four and two would be ideal. Three and three,
But it'll be interesting because they're facing some pretty darn

(40:28):
good pitchers Jacob deGrom, one of the very best in baseball,
will and healthy. That's a very fun pitching matchup to begin. Yeah,
you gotta start winning series. So I want to see
a foreign two.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I do like the fact that old Walter's going tonight
hunt that just like like you need to win, you
need to kind of get going, like like throw this
dude out there going and yeah, and that's the same
and that's the same thing as well.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
All right, Chris postcast tonight.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (40:54):
Absolutely, it'll be me live because Anders has to cover
this just amazing hockey team. I'm not going to be
doing that, but I will be live Monday and Tuesday
by myself. I'm excited to have Andrews back after that.
But yeah, check out the postcast on Lockdown Mariners.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
All right, uh, and Nate, we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
My FRIENDO sell a house or two over there on
the beautiful peninsula.

Speaker 8 (41:16):
Right well we can, sir, thank you as always.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
All right, that is Nathan Bishop. Chris Crawford. The Mollywop guys.
Tune into the postcast tonight with Chris after the Mariner game.
We'll check in with them next week. Big thanks as
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Speaker 3 (41:31):
All right, boys, thank you, we'll talk to you next week.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Coming up next, we'll talk a little bit about tonight's
college basketball game and a bigger picture issue with college
hoops as well.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
That's next.

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(42:55):
playing in New York before a record crowd for women's
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Speaker 9 (43:01):
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Speaker 2 (43:20):
Alrighty, here we go on a Monday afternoon, four nine,
four to five one. We may get a chance to
check some text in a second. We've got a little
different schedule a safty. He's gonna join us for cross
talk at two thirty five to thirty or so, and
then we're gonna say goodbye and he'll take over two
forty five ahead of the cracking Uh so short show
for him and I today as we get ready for
the crack in Winnipeg. Kind of a weird start for

(43:42):
that game. It's four thirty Pacific time there, six thirty
up there. I guess it's National TV in Canada. In fact,
I know it's National TV canadoncause I got John forslan
Is on the call for Prime Canada for the game tonight.

Speaker 4 (43:52):
Always the best.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
Uh yeah, John's doing that. So we got Benton doing
radio and Ever doing TV tonight for the cracking up
there and winn a peg.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
All right, I want to get to this.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
This is a College Game Day ESPN basketball version yesterday
had an incredible discussion and it's it's long, So we're
going to play it right away here and discuss on
the other side, because I've just got a lot.

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Of strong feelings and opinions about this.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
But J billis Jay Williams, John Calipari, Rhys Davis, and
Seth Greenberg on the set in Indianapolis talking about the
current state of college basketball, especially as it relates to
guys getting paid in nil money.

Speaker 11 (44:31):
We're all waiting on older players. The game is better
because it's older.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
Twenty six. I laughed and said, a guy got two kids.

Speaker 11 (44:40):
And his wife and his on his second wife.

Speaker 7 (44:43):
And it's being a pro.

Speaker 10 (44:44):
It's being a pro basketball player. Is yes, But John,
you say, go pro.

Speaker 12 (44:48):
Some would argue this is professional basketball, and is professional it.

Speaker 11 (44:51):
Is, it's amateur basketball, but well then let's just call
it pro and let be a pro basketball.

Speaker 13 (44:58):
Well, but first of all, it was. It was pro
basketball before nil. And I'll tell you why amateur sports
don't make billions of dollars and pay their coaches and
administrators millions. There is nothing about this that has ever
been amateur. Once the money jumped up, and it started
in nineteen eighty four with the US Supreme Court ruling

(45:19):
that allowed the conferences to sell their media rights. There
is no difference between the media rights contracts with the
NCAA from a media company like ours and the NFL,
the NBA, major League Baseball. Zero difference. And right now
when we're talking about this, we're kind of taking an
old school mentality of Hey, it used to be a
certain way, and that's fine. But if we want players

(45:41):
to stay, then sign them to long term contracts and
put buyouts in them. But the NCAA doesn't want to
do that because they don't want them to be employees.
They want to beg Congress for an anti trust exemption
and they're not going to get it. What other multi
billion dollar industry is getting an anti trust exemption from Congress?

Speaker 10 (45:58):
There isn't one.

Speaker 13 (45:59):
Then double A should do is make rules that don't
violate federal law. The rest of the rest of American
business has to do it.

Speaker 10 (46:07):
They can do it too well.

Speaker 14 (46:09):
That's the one major difference in right like that, that's
the difference between being an NBA or NHL their rules
and regulation is also there's a CBA. The players have
a voice, the coaches have a voice. We don't have
any of those guidelines because they don't want it. Exactly
the NC DOUAA does not want it.

Speaker 13 (46:24):
And like when it drives me crazy when people say, well,
we used to talk about education. What's stopping you from
talking about education. If a player is not interested in education,
then don't take the player, you know, and if you
don't like transfers, don't take transfers. But you know, what
everybody wants to do.

Speaker 10 (46:39):
They want to win.

Speaker 13 (46:40):
Like, none of these schools is going we have the
highest GPA. They're going, We've been to six final fours.
They want to win and they're going to pay what's
necessary to win.

Speaker 15 (46:48):
But you got to find a balance because I don't
care what re collective bargaining.

Speaker 10 (46:52):
It's a professional sport.

Speaker 15 (46:53):
Almost things sound great, but in the end, these are
seventeen to eighteen year old kids.

Speaker 13 (46:57):
Or they're not kids. Well it's called men's college basketball.
They're adults. That's just rhetoric. There adult is a developing
young person.

Speaker 10 (47:07):
That's different.

Speaker 13 (47:09):
Developing young decision developing young man is still an adult.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
They get charged with a crime, they're charged on an adult.

Speaker 11 (47:15):
Can I just say this, I've been one that has
promoted young people making money fifteen years ago. They're nil.
They should be able to do this we just got
to figure out. Maybe it's collective bargaining. Maybe it's collective
bargain with the trade union that the players and we
come up with something.

Speaker 10 (47:36):
This is not sustainable.

Speaker 11 (47:38):
If you don't want it to sustain, then say let's
just keep going as this. I'm in this. I mean,
I don't mind kids transferring. I don't, but I'm saying,
do we really want them to be able to go
every year? And then you say, well, coach can well
if I left, my players can leave.

Speaker 10 (47:56):
If I leave, there is a buy out in there.
So I don't know. I don't have all the answers,
but I do know this, the transfer and the length
of eligibility.

Speaker 11 (48:06):
A seventeen year old playing against a twenty eight.

Speaker 10 (48:10):
Year old is not healthy and safe. Its just not
There needs to be one years of football.

Speaker 11 (48:16):
Do they make them stay three years because they say
it's not safe.

Speaker 13 (48:20):
No, that's not why the NFL. The NFL has a
collective bardner.

Speaker 11 (48:25):
You and I could go back and forth on this
and have some fun with it.

Speaker 13 (48:28):
But they determined. So that's a great point. Like the
NFL used to be four years. You know, college football
is fifty years older than the NFL. And the NFL
used to have or excuse me, the NCAA used to
have a rule way back in the day that when
the NFL was getting going that if you worked in
professional sports, you can no longer work in college sports.
So the NCUBA, or excuse me, the NFL came to

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the NCUAA on bended dean said please, don't, please, don't
do this to us.

Speaker 10 (48:51):
You'll kill us.

Speaker 13 (48:52):
As we're getting going, we won't draft our players until
they graduate. And then they started drafting them after three years.

Speaker 10 (48:57):
You know why not.

Speaker 13 (48:58):
Because they're they're they're mature enough now is because the
USFL started drafting juniors and they had to keep up.

Speaker 10 (49:05):
That's all it is.

Speaker 13 (49:05):
That's a collective bargaining issue for eligibility for the draft
and nothing more. The NBA has an eligibility issue that
says one year after your high school graduation and you're in.
So that's a pro thing, not a college thing. And
the colleges just will the NCAA will not adjust to this.

Speaker 10 (49:22):
They never have.

Speaker 13 (49:23):
And they've used the word unsustainable for fifty years now,
and the money keeps going up. The ratings are higher
than they've ever been.

Speaker 14 (49:30):
Right now, can cash you an uh, come from an
institutional perspective, because we're not going to fix that issue
right now in national TV have How is your system
operationalized to kind of keep up with the times? How
is it different than what it was five years ago?
Are you going to have a CEO? We have a
president overall? Do you have a GM now?

Speaker 3 (49:49):
Like?

Speaker 10 (49:50):
How's everything work?

Speaker 11 (49:51):
It's different in basketball than football. And here's what I
would say. If it comes a point for me personally
where it's transactional, I'm paying You're going to say I'm leaving.

Speaker 10 (50:03):
You got to pay me more, and I won't.

Speaker 11 (50:04):
Do this anymore as long as it's transformational. I look
at Darius A. Cuff and he's going to keep me
coaching for a few more years. Malik Thomas, they'll never
be able to play together.

Speaker 10 (50:18):
Both of them are going to have pro careers.

Speaker 11 (50:20):
Billy goat Richmond, Trevin Brazili, he's never been better.

Speaker 10 (50:24):
That makes me going. But if it becomes.

Speaker 11 (50:26):
Transactional, why am I doing this? Then I might well
be a pro coach. Just be a pro coach. They
fired me though, did you know they.

Speaker 10 (50:36):
They fired me because I played rookies.

Speaker 12 (50:39):
It's a remarkable thing and I think both of you
make great points in that I agree with Jad. They're
not kids, but they're still maturing. There's something to be
said for helping them to develop, helping them make wise decisions,
because when we are immature, even if we're adults, sometimes
we grab it the first shiny thing we see and
it's not for the better men. But you have to
let the business function as a business.

Speaker 15 (51:01):
I just think we're talking about the one percenters.

Speaker 10 (51:05):
We're not talking about the enterprise.

Speaker 15 (51:06):
And we have young people that are making this money
and that's great, and they're gonna go to Europe and
get fired. They're gonna come back, and you talk about
mental health issues. We better be prepared to help these
people and have someone build a bridge for them to cross,
to help them navigate the rest of their life, not
just these three or four years where they're markets.

Speaker 7 (51:23):
So they.

Speaker 10 (51:25):
Jay, they say that, I don't think Jay jay.

Speaker 11 (51:28):
A kid's making five hundred thousand a year. He stays
and he transfers and he makes six hundred day year
and then he's.

Speaker 10 (51:34):
Done, no college degree.

Speaker 11 (51:35):
It goes to get a job and the guy offers
him sixty thousand, and the guy pretty feels good.

Speaker 10 (51:40):
About it.

Speaker 11 (51:41):
Sixty This is fugazy money right now, and you're right,
there's so much of it, it's crazy.

Speaker 10 (51:46):
What do we do with that? Kids? Now?

Speaker 11 (51:48):
All of a sudden, he says, sixty thousand. Do I
get a car? Do I have to come to work?
Do you get me? Do you're feeding me? Right the apartment?
We're gonna deal with men health issues. And that's why
I'm saying, let's collect the bargain. Let's have people in
the room. We're finally talking about it to say it's
an issue right now, and we got to do something.

Speaker 10 (52:11):
I'm for the kids. I don't care what they make.

Speaker 11 (52:13):
I don't really care. Let people decide that, but how
we run our business, we gotta do this different for them.
I hate to say it in a game two which
we've all benefited by.

Speaker 3 (52:25):
Nope, all right, there you go, great stuff, Curtsey ESPN.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
There's a lot to discuss there right here on the
day that is college football championship game. We're gonna talk
about some of this stuff with Gary Perrish on Friday.
But I think we can translate to college football as well.
And I brought this up at the start of the
show today. You know, you're you as a college fan,
if you're a Husky fan of Cougar fan, Gonzaga fan,
organ doesn't matter. You're being asked to spend money and
pay for a roster of.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
Your favorite team. That's the big like like like, here's
the funny thing. J Bill says.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
You know, there' zero just between college and NFL, NBA, MLB,
et cetera in terms of the revenue coming in. Not necessarily.
The Seahawks don't ask you to play to pay salaries.
You know, they're not asking you to pay for Sam
Darnold's contract outside of a ticket price.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
They're not asking you to do that.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
John Stanton is not calling and saying, listen, I know
you've you bought a twenty game pack to go watch
the Mariners this season, but we're gonna ask you to
also donate some more money to help pay for a
contract extension for Cole Young.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
They're not asking you to do that. If there is
a when he.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
Says zero difference between college and NFL, there's a massive difference.
He talks about media rights. The massive difference there in
the media rights is, Yes, the NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball,
and NHL, they all MLS, WNBA, NWSL, PWHL, whoever it is,
they negotiate a television or a media rights deal for

(53:50):
the entire league. In college, that's not the case. It's
done conference by conference. Think about this for a second.
Imagine if you had one television deal for the AFC
and one for the NFC. In the NFL, or if
Major League Baseball there's an American League television package and
there's a National League.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Or even al Wes versus NLS, that's.

Speaker 2 (54:12):
Actually even a better one. Yeah, so it's very different.
So I just I inherently, I just vamily disagree with
him in a lot of his takes. And it's funny
because here's a guy that's made millions and millions of
dollars off of being a media guy for college basketball,
and yet he wants to bite the hand it feeds him.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Half the time.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
He says there should be buyots and contracts, and then
calson the same thing, and I agree hundred percent. I
think that's I think the biggest solution because when you
hear and they all talked about how it's not sustainable,
college cal brought that up, and the other guy's brought
up to it's not sustainable, and it's not you don't
want you want a good example why it's not sustainable
because we're talking about the one percent here, we're talking

(54:51):
about a handful of teams. There's in Division one basketball,
there's roughly three hundred and seventy five Division one basketball teams.
There's four power for conf This is the Big East
has kind of thought to be a power for and
then you got the high majors Pack twelve next year
will be a high major things like that, right, So
there's but even in those conferences, if you're not named

(55:11):
Yukon or Saint John's or Gonzaga, you're not part of
the party. You're not part of the power structure of
the sport we're talking about, you know. And then we
talk about players, we're talking about the one percenters. We're
not talking to everybody else. But here's why it's not sustainable,
because it's still college athletics. Like it or not, it's
college athletics. And yeah, in a lot of ways, it's

(55:33):
a farm system for the teams at the highest of
level no matter what the sport is. Hockey's becoming that too.
If you're seeing this, there's all these nil to these
guys are Land and DuPont plays for the ever Silver
Tips great young player fifteen years old last year was
too young to play in the league. I got a
special exemption. Plays this year as a sixteen year old,
one of the best players in the league. He's gonna
make money in the He's gonna make nil money next

(55:54):
year as a seventeen year old college student playing in
college hockey. It's everywhere, But why is it not sustainable?
Because there's not that many revenue generating programs, much less sports,
but programs in the country. Case indpoint, this was a
story I ran across and saved last week. We just

(56:17):
finished the women's national championship game yesterday. UCLA and South Carolina. Right,
South Carolina women's basketball had a deficit of seven point
eight million dollars two years ago and six point two
four million dollar deficit deficit. That's the best, one of

(56:40):
the three best women's programs in the country and they're
running a six million dollar deficit. So Yukon, South Carolina, Texas,
UCLA all spent over nine million dollars in operating expenses
and didn't make.

Speaker 3 (56:56):
That back for the past year. That's a fact.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
So yes, certain sports at the highest level, and certain
teams and certain programs make money and they carry the
boat for everybody else. But the reality is most of
these young people are getting compensated at a level that's
far higher than what their true value is because of

(57:23):
the arms race, because of the pressure to win, and
all of those things.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
It just comes back to one thing, honestly.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
And when I say it's not sustainable, that's one reason,
because you're going to see more and more sports get dropped.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
That's just the reality of it.

Speaker 16 (57:35):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
And I don't know if to me that's not a
good thing. I think the college experience for anybody who
can do something besides go to class that might be
college athletics, that might be working at Cable eight News
and Pullman and the meuos school, that might be working
in the biology department marine biology department at you dub
and doing something besides classroom work. You're doing whatever it

(57:59):
is the collegiate experience, but sports at the top of
the list. The more that can be involved, the better.
And Jess, you were a small college athlete. My son
was a small college athlete. Those experiences are invaluable. They're
also massively team well but they're your friends. But just
even from learning how to just growing up and ers

(58:21):
you were the same way you were an athlete in college. Yes,
those experiences were invaluable to you and they existed. Why
because we're not paying people millions of dollars to play
at your two schools, right, my son's school. But you
have those experiences and you know where they come into play.
You guys both know this. On the job market, people
like have student athletes. They like that you've been through
more than the average student. Don't take away those opportunities

(58:45):
by just taking more and more money and putting it
in a very small pile for the one percent.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
So my question to you, Ian is when the NCAA
is so focused on making more money, how do we
go back to subsidizing those other sports.

Speaker 3 (58:57):
Well, first of all, that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Those other sports are getting subsidized by March madness.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Money has not always been and college football.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
Money, yes, yes it has. But the pressure to win
in those two sports men's basketball and more more so
than anything football, the pressure to win there will make
you want to spend more on those programs. Coaches, support staff,
facilities at the expense, oftentimes of other.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Programs and fans and fans.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
And so I just the solution is really simple. I
brought up Lawan Watts earlier. Four schools and four years.
How is that healthy for anybody?

Speaker 9 (59:40):
How is that building a team?

Speaker 3 (59:41):
Well?

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Take I agree, Jess Pollyanna World, I'm with you, like
that should be part of it. That should be part
of it. But it's not and it never will be.
It's about building a successful team, but not about in
terms of your definition of team. Your definition of team
is what is what.

Speaker 8 (59:56):
It should mean?

Speaker 3 (59:57):
Right?

Speaker 4 (59:57):
But your family.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Right, right, right? But they don't care about that. Yeah,
they don't care about that, and it's and it's too bad.
The other thing is from a fans standpoint, I just again,
I'll put myself in the in the like the shoes
of anybody. I mean, our school. We're just at this
point where basketball is gonna be turned over every single year.
Why because we're putting all of our focus in on football. Rightfully,

(01:00:19):
So it's it's the only it's the only sport that
can generate money in Pullman, Washington has a ton of money.
They're in the Big damn Ten. They lose players every year.
Arkansas lost a starter playing player today. Kansas lost a
starting player today to the portal. It's just like we're
just going all over the place. The way you make
it sustainable is just simple. You have if you're gonna

(01:00:41):
have these nil deals and pay these guys money, you
have to sign them to a contract for more than
for more than one year and it and you can.
You know, what they signed last week is executive order,
which is gonna go to court, it's gonna get and
it's gonna be tied up forever. But one time transfer
or a penalty if you're twice like, it just.

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
Has to be that way.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
So you're asking people to pay money for something, there's
no return on your investment as a fan, there is
zero return on investment if you're a fan. Hell, DeMont
Williams doesn't want to be here. Like keep that in
mind for a second, right, So if you invested money
in him last year, you got lucky because it kind
of forced him to stay and good for Washington and

(01:01:22):
good for the Big ten to force the kid to stay,
like good for them, But at the same time, he
don't want to be here, and you would what would
your return investment being been on him last year? A
Bowl game yeah, you weren't contending for the college football playoff.
What's your return on investment? When people are saying, hey,
to be a good fan, you've got to write a check.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
Shut up?

Speaker 5 (01:01:43):
Like really, so Ian, My whole point in like I
guess to J. Billis's point, is when NCAA wants to
keep it quote unquote amateur athletes at this point, that's
kind of the only way to kind of work it
around to pay these guys because we're in this in
between phase where they're trying to keep it amateur but
also trying to pay them at the same time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
Understand what understand why they wanted to keep it amateur
because they were trying to keep it from being the
one hundred dollars you know, handshake, the tosh lapoy putting
money in the coffee in the coffee cup. They were
trying to keep the playing field even they don't get
they would have paid players, as Cal said, years ago,
and they have paid.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Them for years ago because they all knew.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Because the whole amateur Like we're talking about amateur, like,
how do we define what an amateur is? Right, Like,
how do you really define that? Because these guys are
getting not just scholarship money. I'm going back way back
in the day scholarship money, room and board and a stipend.
And I know that money wasn't nearly close to the
cost of enrollment and and so forth. I get that,
but they were getting that so automatically you're getting paid.

(01:02:46):
That's that you're getting compensated. When the federal government asked
you if you get paid every year, yeah, I got.
You know, I got a gift card from X place.
That's considered payment. Right, that's that's that's income, that's payment
along the way. And so like when they're saying, right, no,
but I mean that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
That's what it is. And so that's that's why they
were doing that, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:06):
And they say it's amateur No, they that that that
that they're just trying to keep their cost down. That's
all so, you know, and then the and the money
coming in again, Remember how many programs actually make money.
He talks about the billions of dollars being generated. Yeah,
for certain for a handful of schools and a handful
of programs, but the vast majority are not making money.

Speaker 5 (01:03:23):
So if we're talking CBA, we're talking contracts and all
that it turns into pay to play, which gets rid
of the amateurism.

Speaker 4 (01:03:29):
So why why is there still like a poll to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Keep amateurism is I'm just I'll wrap it up, Gonave, Yeah,
amateurism to me. You know who decided there was no
such thing as amateurism anymore? Years ago? The Olympics, the IOCUM,
the dumbest organization in sports not named FIFA, right like
the most corrupt, the most corrupt group in the world,
decide there's really no.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Such thing as amateurism anymore. And there isn't. There isn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
Hell, are you an amateur golfer? If you're you know,
I'm My algorithm is filled with golf stuff right on Instagram,
and I see all these people, A lot of them
are young, and you know they're they're getting compensated.

Speaker 8 (01:04:06):
My nephew is getting compensated at ten years old to
play lacrosse.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Okay, See, it is delineating no such.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Thing as amateur There isn't There really isn't. So so
that argument doesn't hold water. But there's a better solution
along the way, and maybe they'll find it some day.
We'll take a break, come back check in with Softy
coming up.

Speaker 16 (01:04:22):
Next.

Speaker 3 (01:05:00):
Then here's our guy in the studio. Is he there? Hello?

Speaker 9 (01:05:03):
Already? I had like three or four minutes here? You know,
what the hell are we doing?

Speaker 10 (01:05:07):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:05:07):
I was just annoying him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Sorry, Oh wait, wait, wait a second, Jess, you were
annoying Softy.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
I'd like to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
I thought it was usually the other way around.

Speaker 4 (01:05:16):
I thought, well it is, but I felt like offense
this time.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
It doesn't take much, man, I'll tell you that right now.
Does not take much. Hey, listen, I'm not most women
in my life. I know the hell out of me
to be honest with you. So whether it's my wife,
my mother, Jessamine.

Speaker 4 (01:05:31):
Oh, it sounds like you're a horrible person.

Speaker 6 (01:05:32):
I'm an awful, awful person, and I should not be here.
I should go home.

Speaker 9 (01:05:37):
How's that sad?

Speaker 5 (01:05:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
He, ladies and gentleman, Dave Softy ball Or has just
announced that he is entering the transfer port.

Speaker 6 (01:05:45):
That's fine, but he's keeping all options. No, but no,
I'm just gone. I'll see you later. Problem is, I'd
like to enter, but I'm contractually obligated. I I did
not pull a demand. I looked at my financial my
contractual situation before I went on Insta and made the announcement.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
We were just talking about this. Can you can you
help me out here a little bit?

Speaker 2 (01:06:06):
Was it the big ten combo with Washington that held
him to an nil deal?

Speaker 9 (01:06:11):
That was you dubbed the whole way?

Speaker 6 (01:06:13):
I think what big what Tony Pettiti and the conference
did is they told everybody else in the conference this
is how we're doing this. Anybody else is it's actually obligated,
then they're not going anywhere, and we're not taking players
that are also contractually obligated from other teams. We'll see
if that actually works out like that. I think in
college football you got to be a gigantic hypocrite to survive.

(01:06:34):
Right now, well you have the only thing is you're
worry about is yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:06:38):
You have you have right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
But I applaud Washington for doing that because a lot
of it's like, you know, you invest in this guy,
you think you've got him, and this is a weird term.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I'm gonna use.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Re signed or signed right, and then now you know
what I'm out. I've gone, right, And that's I think
it's the one only one I can think of that. Actually,
who was the other guy who's gonna transfer they ended up.

Speaker 3 (01:06:59):
But the oh was it the from u dub no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
Quarterback from that ended up at Duke or was it
a transfer from the kid that ended up going to Miami?

Speaker 3 (01:07:08):
Right? The kid that ended up the quarterback that went
to all Right right?

Speaker 10 (01:07:11):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:07:12):
Yeah, he left, he left Duke to go to Miami.

Speaker 8 (01:07:14):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
And initially Duke was going to hold him to it, yes,
because the same time as Dumont.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
And then they said, yeah, I don't think he had
signed his deal by the way, that kid you're talking about.
But dude, honestly, like, who the hell knows? Man, It's
so ridiculous. It's just every year it's a one year proposition.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:07:29):
You know, who knows how many of these guys are back?
Who knows how many you are leaving? Who knows how
many will try and quit halfway through the year. If
things go sideways, you know they're not playing enough time.
They're a bench player. I mean, who is the kid
from Michigan that transferred to Iowa before Michigan season was
even over? Uh, Cad McNamara.

Speaker 9 (01:07:47):
Whatever his name was, a couple of years ago, quarterback.

Speaker 6 (01:07:49):
Yeah, it's like before Michigan season even ends the guys
enrolled in Iowa.

Speaker 9 (01:07:53):
I'm like, what the hell is going on here?

Speaker 10 (01:07:54):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:07:55):
So I heard you guys talking about Zoomdiello on Friday,
right right, and you know you made mention to the fact.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
Well, I mean, at what point are you going to
start seeing other sports get cut?

Speaker 10 (01:08:04):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
And you start seeing that and you know we've seen
that across the country. I brought this up, like everyone's
celebrating ratings and interest in all that. The thing that
jumped out at me is that the women's basketball South
Carolina women's basketball, which is what maybe I mean finished second,
but one of the top three or four.

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Programs for country.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
Absolutely, they have been losing an average of six million
dollars a year over the last four years. Huh, Like,
how does that make people make the schools are making
they're not?

Speaker 9 (01:08:33):
Well, it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (01:08:33):
I mean, at some point in time you'll probably have
you know, and I've said this on the year before
and now there's other people that are kind of jumping
on the wagon.

Speaker 9 (01:08:41):
But I was the pioneer, just se.

Speaker 3 (01:08:43):
Well, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:08:46):
When I think when I think of people as a pioneer,
as ride center.

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
Right, that's right. I think in our lifetime. We're going
to see a university that have a team, whether football, fotball, whatever,
and there's going to be kids or people playing for
that team that don't even go to school there. They're
going to farm out their image, their likeness, their colors,
their history, their name. Third party will take over Cougar football,

(01:09:14):
Husky football, they'll run it. Yeah, it'd be great if
you had students on the football team, but I think
you're going to see kids that aren't even in class
playing for teams down the road. Well, I mean they're
not in class now. Yeah, he's a freaking difference some
of these kids.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Most of these kids are going to what is it whatever,
school whatever and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:36):
Yeah, I know Mike Pennis in his last year of
college and makes a little different because the guy was
in school for fifteen years. But his last year in school,
I think he was like a big brother mentor that
was like what he was doing good for him.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
But that kid also had what three degrees?

Speaker 9 (01:09:51):
Yeah no, I mean like he.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Did the best and there's a value to that.

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
Sure, but he's he's a bad example by me because
he was already graduated obviously, but the the point is
that he he had he had one and a half
feet out the door as far as academics goes, Yes,
he was there for football and that's it. And we
don't care if they're there for anything else besides football.

Speaker 9 (01:10:13):
So what the hell are we waiting for?

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
Back back in the day.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
Are our friends out at Oregon State when Hurricane Dennis
brought the hoosh Manzada and Chad Johnson?

Speaker 9 (01:10:21):
Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Well, I think I think your guy was the same way.
The running back at Washington what was his name, Forty.

Speaker 9 (01:10:26):
Dillan, Corey Dillon. Ye, I don't know if he did
or not. Man, there's people that claim he never did.

Speaker 6 (01:10:31):
I would not be surprised if you said, you gotta
bet did Corey Dillon ever take one class in person?
Because there was no online back then, Obviously I'd say
I'd probably bet no. But hey, he's still a phenomenal player.
Ran for three hundred yards in one quarter San Jose
stap But he did it?

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
Is that good?

Speaker 9 (01:10:48):
Very good?

Speaker 6 (01:10:49):
I'm telling you I was at that game and I
remember taking yards. Yeah you didn't know that for three
hundred yards yard not forty one yards?

Speaker 9 (01:10:58):
Is my wallet?

Speaker 6 (01:10:59):
By the way, Andrews back there. I mean, if she's
gonna call for it, I gotta give it to her.
You want to hear the original I was asking for it.

Speaker 9 (01:11:05):
Let's hear the original?

Speaker 4 (01:11:06):
Baby, Sam Donald, what time looking at?

Speaker 9 (01:11:08):
Get downfield into the zone?

Speaker 11 (01:11:11):
Touchdown Jets, Robbie Anderson and the first TD to of
Sam donald career cost forty one yards.

Speaker 9 (01:11:20):
You know what's funny about that clip?

Speaker 6 (01:11:21):
By the way, what's Sam Darnle now plays for the
Seahawks and Robbie Anderson's name is Robbie Chosen.

Speaker 9 (01:11:27):
That's how much time has changed since that clip.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
That's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
All right? What's coming up on the two forty five?

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
Let's see, we're gonna bury your show in the ground.
Burn to the ground, Thank you, next segment.

Speaker 6 (01:11:39):
Every cuss word I've ever wanted to get out over
the air, I'm gonna unleash it. Next segment, Thank you,
and let you take full credit for it. And then
Bill Kruger will join us at three twenty Mike Benton,
who's calling the game tonight, by the way, over the
Cracking Audio Network against Minnesota.

Speaker 9 (01:11:54):
They're kind of in a world of hurt right now,
aren't they.

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
The Cracking They gotta they gotta kind of get going here,
and they need some help from a lot of other
people too to get going.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
I blame be I blame Ben, Yeah yeah, I think so.
You blame him tonight as well.

Speaker 9 (01:12:08):
I will.

Speaker 6 (01:12:09):
I'll rip his ass when he's on the air at
three forty five. But you know, this is your fault?

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
What what are.

Speaker 9 (01:12:14):
People are really saying that?

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
Well, hey, that's how you preface it. People are saying.

Speaker 9 (01:12:20):
They're saying it's your fault. Text me when the show's over.

Speaker 10 (01:12:23):
Dude.

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
If people really saying that, yes, loser, all right, go ahead,
you're puting your foundation on.

Speaker 9 (01:12:30):
See you later. For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness,
this is paddled Day saying so long everyone,

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