Furness Show 5-11: Mollywhop Monday on Mariners struggles, Garay Parrish on NCAA Tourney

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Did you ever watch soap operas? No, people, because you
watched daytime soaps, we all did.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
I knew they existed, you know, my mom had them
on in the background when I was growing up. But
daytime soaps, the only time I would see them was
when I was working at ESPN because all the networks
were up and that's where they aired, right, So they
were watching sports overnight and I'd have seven televisions at
every studio and it was set on the networks, but
they were muted. Yeah, so all I saw was women

(00:29):
crying and people slapping each other, and that's what I
thought of soaps.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
They were when I listened when I was in college,
it was the dark ages. Yeah, but and there was
I mean, we we had cable TV in the old
fraternity in a couple of the rooms that you know,
the main family room, chapter room we called it. Everybody
kind of gathered in some in people's rooms and stuff.
But back then it was probably eight channels, ten channels. Yeah,

(00:54):
that was it. So we didn't have phones, we didn't
have social media, streams, streaming services and of that stuff existed, right,
and daytime soaps were a huge deal.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, Okay, you've got to watch something.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
Well, it was on just kind of back you come home,
you know, you get home, get back to the house
from class flowers in between a couple of hours in between,
grab some lunch, take a half nap, you know, go
down and All My Children is on, or Young and
the Restless is on? Or General Hospital or Days of
Our Lives.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
And yes, still on, which is I think?

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, when I was out not feeling great last week,
I Young and the Restless is sort of still on,
but it's on CBS, and CBS carries all the soccer games.
It's true. So the Champions League game is on. You preempted.
I think General Hospital is the other one in Bolden
Beautiful is like three of them is left, maybe two
or three are still going. No, and that wasn't really
kind of a daytime. They are lives gone. I think

(01:42):
they're gone. It's we were all all my children people, okay, yeah,
so uh and my wife was big and too Young
and the Restless, which first that all my children? Okay,
And she's she's like Ian, She's like a multiple time
ammy loser, waiting for the next loss. Coming up on

(02:04):
May thirtieth, lost number eight whatever it will be anyway,
the opposite of Chris Egan, me and Susan Lucie hanging
out together. But the U Person Club, I sure, yeah,
I just feel bad because since I joined the crew,
we don't win to Emmys anymore with the cracking. But
but I bring up the soaps for this reason. First
of all, did you watch the Souls four four one?
I don't know, I loved them anyway, But when you'd

(02:26):
watch a soap opera, you would hear, like a lot
of times, like if there was an actor or actress
that was sick or out or maybe taking leave whatever
they say. The role of Ted Martin is being played
today by Ian Forness like this underwin this under this
little under Oh they did that.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
That's like a Broadway they do that.

Speaker 1 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, like the understudies playing on television. Because because
the soap opers are basically taping almost every day every day, right,
because five days a week, and you know, soap molly
Wop Monday brought to you by my friends at Simply
Seattle simply Seattle dot com. The role of Nathan Bishop
today we played by Anderson Hurst. I will not be
the same witty, sarcastic. Oh oh, here's Here's why I

(03:07):
assigned you the role, sir. Here's why I assigned you
the role. I don't you can't. Your vocabulary is you're
not nearly as robust as him. All right, right, that's
a whole that's a whole different world of of of
what we deal with with Nathan. In terms of the words,
we're all like, what did he just say? So I
don't expect that, but the kind of sarcastic, acid laced criticism,

(03:34):
which frankly, sir, you can do quite well, that will
be the parallel for you and Nathan today. Great, okay,
all right, I have an expectation uphold here. Yes, good
cop Chris Crawford, good bad cop, Nathan Slash the role
of Nathan Basher. So we'll do that at one o'clock today.

(03:57):
I'm all about Monday after an interesting think. So, did
you watch this hope or not?

Speaker 4 (04:03):
No?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I never followed him.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I watched, Yes, I would because I would know what
I was talking about. All I knew about Susan Lucci
was she was like the long the longest time person
to not win an Emmy, and so but I would
just sit there and kind of just see what was
going on, like I said, I couldn't hear the words
of the music or anything. But I did watch Grey's

(04:26):
Anatomy for like two seasons, but that was prime time primetime.
But now I was a price is right when I'm
home sick person.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
My my wife told me that her grandma in Argentina,
they used to watch the Mexican soap operas. That's another
level all on just like slapping in the face.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
I think we would flip those on every now and then.
None of us could understand it. But the women on
those things were always just absolute smokes. Yes, absolute smoke
show man. I've been in Mexico, couple. Never see these
people live.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Definitely in a castle outside of.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Where you are. Very pretty, yes, yes they are anyway
that yeah. So yeah, so all my children was good though.
And I did mention to Tammy the day when I
was when I was, She's like, are you watching Young
and the Wrestlers, Like it was the only thing on.
I'm just like, I sleep, I'm just kind of there,
just in and out of consciousness, and she's like, and
I said, the weird thing is when we first started

(05:29):
living together, right before we got maybe married thirty three years,
this summer congratulation and thank you and our condolences to her.
But they but they when we were so this was
been the early nineties, right, we were living in a
little duplex up in Queen Anne, and that was back
in the days of the VHS machines, and literally we

(05:50):
would record Young and the rest I'd record for her
every day so she could watch Young on the Wrestlers
to night.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Nice.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
But it was like, I go hunt, like, they're the
same characters, they're just thirty years older. It's crazy. Oh,
they must make a good living.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Oh they have to.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
They must make it because that's hard work.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
That is that's for a daily show.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Yeah, yeah, anyone like like if you're a sitcom person
and then you get residuals afterwards that you're you're set
for light. Yeah right right, they keep going, they keep
common and coming and coming. Yeah. But if you're that like, like,
how many seasons of Young and the Restless is there?

Speaker 7 (06:20):
Google it?

Speaker 8 (06:20):
Forty?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Probably forty five fifty a ton right time. I mean
it's it's a lot. And then there's crossovers. But yeah,
so the role today will be played by Anderson Hurst
d third season. That's insane. It's see about General Hospital. Okay,
google General Hospital.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
That was like a precursor to er. Right, No, it
wasn't like across.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Over sixty third season d three seasons. Still it's older
than me, that's all.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
The show is the longest running American soap opera currently
in production, over fifteen thousand episodes.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Wow, that's insane.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Since nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
Young and Restless thirteen thousandth Wow. Yeah they're in their.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Thirteen thousand yeah. Wow, Well you'll be playing that role today,
so ware we go. How long we're gonna be doing? Yeah,
sixty three? Play me the all the General Hospital or
All My Children or something like that. So okay, uh
m's over the weekend. Let's see. I'll get to that
in a second.

Speaker 7 (07:17):
Gary.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Gary Parrish is going to join us today. I's just
mentioned this real quick at two o'clock, and we'll probably
carry his conversation over to tomorrow show a little bit.
With the expansion of March Madness and the NCAA Tournament
and what that means. I'll touch in with him too. Obviously.
College basketball, the NBA Draft lottery took place over the weekend.
The Washington Wizards get the number one pick, thank god,

(07:38):
it didn't win it? Oh my god? Yeah, because what
was the what was the thing there?

Speaker 6 (07:42):
They could have They could have won it because they
got they had in the Shay Gildess Alexander trade. Yeah,
they got the like a couple of first round picks
they traded pul Joe.

Speaker 9 (07:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, that would have just man, so that would have
been the most Seattle thing to happen.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
So we'll talk to Parish about. I mean, I think
it's listen, the NBA Draft some year we couldn't care
less we I think we did this exercise a little
while ago. Yah, Like the French guy was taking number
one a couple of years ago. Nobody knows who he was. Yeah,
not Wemby, it was the other guy. Atlanta took him,
I think, right. Yeah, and the because I think he
won Rookie of the Year over Jalen Wells two years ago,

(08:15):
if I'm not mistaken. But this year is kind of
cool because I mean, I'm a college basketball fan. So
this year the star power between Devonsta, Darren Peterson, a
Cuff Boozer. You go down the list, there's some dudes.
Utah gets a second pick this the NBA Draft. The

(08:36):
NBA draft lottery, unlike the NHL, does not feel rigged
this year because I don't think they would want listen.
As much as the NHL loves themselves some utah, the
NBA does not love themselves some utah. I can tell
you that from having worked there and I always and
and not being even a jazz fan, I felt like, man,
this this organization gets crapped on by the NBA. Right,
Uh So they get the number two pick, They're gonna
end up with Peterson probably if de Bonsta goes number one,

(08:59):
they all want a jee What played at BYU, you know,
for one year or so. But it's a great it's
a great debate. Who goes one?

Speaker 7 (09:05):
Two? Three?

Speaker 1 (09:05):
We'll talk to Garry about that, but mostly about March
Madis expansion, seventy six teams. It is the thing that
nobody wants in sports, except for apparently a handful of
people at the NCAA offices. Because and I'll ask Gary,
I don't even think CBS is into this.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Let me ask about the network.

Speaker 7 (09:23):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I don't think. I mean, because it's at what point
is is it too much? Right? At one point? Do
you have just too much the four game first four
is now a twelve game opening round on Tuesday and Wednesday.
I think what people forget and this goes to the NFL,
which I'll get to in a second as well. I
really and maybe I'm wrong. You guys tell me if

(09:44):
I'm wrong. Four nine four or five to one. What
I think people tend to forget sometimes would be why
some sports are popular. The NCUBA does okay, during the
regular season, it flourishes in mark. Why is that, well,
thirty six million, Actually it's closer to forty million.

Speaker 7 (10:05):
Reasons.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's the number of brackets that were entered this year
between CBS, Yahoo, ESPN, and that's just the big three. Yeah,
there's a bunch of other there's a bunch of other ones.
It's well into the forties. Yeah, forty million. Keeping in
mind we have three hundred and fifty million people in
our country, it's a pretty significant amount of people that
are entering brackets. Okay, that's a that's a big, big number. Well,

(10:28):
those people are watching early games and then it kind
of fades a little bit as your bracket gets busted.
And listen, not everybody submits one. And there's people in
our station that are into sports that don't do that.
You know what they do do They gamble? But you
can gamble easy, no matter how big a field is,
but you can't do brackets. That's why it's popular. I'll
go to the NFL for a second. We're all into this.

(10:50):
You know, these opening games and now you play on
a Wednesday, and you're gonna play on a Tuesday, You're
going to play on a Friday, and you do all
these things. Why is the NFL popular. It's because of
gambling and fantasy. Gambling and fantasy, that's what that.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
You get to do.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Your interact the interactive part of it, yes, exactly, the
interactive part of it.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Well, people all get together to do it in various
ways too. We always have.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Wanted a nutshell. You wanted a nutshell, you wanted in
this What's the one of the most popular things we
do is factor fiction. Yeah, factor fiction. And it works
because you do it on you know, the results come
out on a Monday in an ideal world, I mean
all the college games or maybe Thursday, Friday, Saturday, NFL.
We've all been guilty, all three of us. Saturday, Yes, yes, once.

(11:40):
I think if we looked I think we looked around
the state. I think everyone's been guilty everyone.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
I'm so happy when I found out Softy did it
once happy.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
You know who did it one time? Was Shocky? Really?
He was the anders Yeah he was. I done it before.
And the thing is when Shaky did it, he was
like he was when somebody else did it, he would
lose his mind. So I don't know if you just
went home and yelled at himself in the mirror for
an hour or what, but probably, But that's what it's
popular that it is anyway, So we'll talk to parents

(12:10):
about all that. I just I'm just trying to wrap
my one hundred out why it makes sense. You don't
have to be a good team anymore to get in. Yeah,
the money there has to be. It's it's a money thing,
probably sure, But so ends up being four to twelve
eight more games is what you end up getting. That's
ready more million dollars. But the contracts are already signed,

(12:31):
the TV contract, so I don't know. We'll figure that out.
We'll talk about I think it's an interesting conversation. Nobody
wants to see it, but it's going to happen, and
in a way, I mean, I think it's a I
think it's a much easier and probably people would welcome
a much much more, would welcome the thought of expanding
college football playoffs. Yes, from you know, the current format
to twenty four even sixteen, sixteen and be fine. Yeah,

(12:52):
sixteen would be act. I feel like that's perfect. I
think sixteen is the number for college fum. Yes, I
really do. I think sixteen is the number, and I
think you need to have of you know, and I
think when you look at the sixteen, however, you want
to figure it out in terms of who gets a buye,
who you know or not a buye? Not sixteen was
not a buye, but who which conferences? How many automatic

(13:13):
bids for the power for are they guaranteed two spots
for for the whatever you call them? They two the
group of six I mean, but yeah, I think sixteen works.
I think sixteen worlds.

Speaker 6 (13:26):
Because you want to keep people, You want to have
as large of a field as possible by only keeping
the amount of teams that really have a chance to
win the national championship.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Well, and that's the thing with college basket right exactly, Like.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
We're gonna have like eighteen and twenty teams coming in
and like.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
We debated forever Miami of Ohio, Are they going to
get in? Should they get in?

Speaker 7 (13:45):
And they did.

Speaker 8 (13:45):
They won the first couple of games, and then they
were done. They were never going to win a national championship.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
But see college basketball in the tournament, and I think
if you get to sixteen with college football, I think
it's the same. For some just getting in is huge.
It's massive, right. It used to be again, old old
guy here, it used to be if you got a
bowl game in college football, that was because it wasn't.
I mean, it's it hasn't been that long since it was.

(14:11):
You could go eight and three in eleven game seasons
back then and not get a bowl game. Right, There
weren't that many bowl games. It changed starting in the
late eighties and nineties and kind of we kept gett
increasing more and more, but just getting a bowl game. Hell, Jess,
you were on the sidelines when when Wazoo went from
the depths of the Paul Wolf era.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yeah, and started as the climbing out of the crevass
started with Mike Leach.

Speaker 7 (14:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
And when Mike Leach his second year, got to six
wins and we qualified for a bowl game for the
first time, in five or six years. The six they
jumped on, the fans stormed the field. Oh yeah, they
went crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Oh it was awesome. And that was six wins, six.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Wins, and so that was But that's because you know,
for every school it's different, the bar is different, and
really college football, for being honest, I mean, Washington's had
a couple of great kicks at the can, painful as
that is for me to admit that they have. But
then by and large, there's about ten teams every year
that probably a chance to win to College FOOTBA Championship,
and by the week, by by the second or third week,
we kind of know there's like five, right or four,

(15:09):
three whatever might be.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Do you like the fact that it's changed though it's
not all SEC anymore.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Like, well, it ain't been the SEC in a while, I.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Know, but now it's Indiana what.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Big ten, Big Ten's run, I mean Big ten is
running the show. ACC is an afterthought. Big twelve is
an afterthought. A ACC shouldn't be. They used to have
a team called Clemson was there every year. So yeah,
there's a lot, there's a lot there. But we'll get
to that with Parish coming up at two o'clock we
come back, Andrew, I'm gonna I'm gonna ask the question.
I'm gonna ask you and Chris again, so I won't
have you really comment too deep. But there is a
question that we'll pose to people about the local and

(15:42):
major league baseball team and the manners. Yeah, in terms
of concern and a concern level for a couple of guys.
We'll talk about that coming up next.

Speaker 5 (15:53):
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Speaker 1 (16:06):
kJ R F M. All right, we got a little
mare news. Jose Ferrera placed on the Eternity list. No,
thank god, but also not because it's not a key point.
So basically, your second to last high leverage receiver reliever yep,

(16:29):
not named your closer is now gone for probably a
couple of days.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Domingo Gonzalez, twenty six years old, has been called up
twelve relief appearances for the Rainiers this season, one point
eight O E R A, fourteen strikeouts and two walks
claimed off waivers by the MS from the Atlanta Braves
late last summer, so he will when he does pitch
in a game. If he does pitch in a game,
Domingo Gonzalez will make his major league debut. Farrer, who's

(16:58):
been just lights out for Gattle, I mean just been
a I mean without him. We talked about last week
and he's broke down the numbers for you, Farrair for
Harry Ford is a massive win for Jerry to Poto
and Justin Hollander. Yeah, like a massive, massive win at
least early on, at least you know the early results.
But with Brash out still with Spires still out, that's

(17:18):
a that's a big that's a big loss. But congratulations
to him and his family as they go through the
paternity stuff. And away we go. So Domingo Gonzalez is
called up. All right, well, Molly Wop coming up at
one pm today, four nine, four five one. Let's see
what are we talking about? The first segment, that's right,
soap operas, everyone's favorite soap opera.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Oh, I'm actually curious because I didn't watch them, so
I want to know.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
I'm sure those people texting in, so we'll check those
at two thirty. You can also send it to a
voice text in or talk back for it. Just go
to the iHeartRadio apter red microphone and the way we go.
So we did hit the hard hitting topic of soap
operas earlier, very hard. I'll fill this one at people too,
and Anders, I'll be asking both you and Chris this,
so I won't really have you answer too heavily here
when you're playing the role Anderson Hurst playing the role
of Nathan Bishop today. That's how we got into soap operas.

(18:01):
That's how we got Yes, so more concerned and who
was Okay? So I have a two guys that said,
if you're a managers fan, who you're more concerned with
right now? And I have the two in mine. You
gave me a third. Who is the third?

Speaker 6 (18:16):
The third is JP Crawford, but specifically defensively, and I
was kind of thinking of run prevention when I said that,
because I knew you would go in Luis Castillo. Luis
Castillo one, and I said, okay, JP Crawford was the
other one, and I didn't I obviously didn't think about
the other one that you're gonna mention, Yeah, just because
I think that's everyone's concerned number one. But maybe it's not.

(18:37):
Maybe it's not. Maybe you're more concerned about Luis. Maybe
you're more concerned about JP's defense.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
I don't know. Yeah, I think JP's defense would be distant.

Speaker 7 (18:44):
Third.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
To be honest with you, I think you know you're
a guy that should be a top of the rotation guy.
And I know you've got wu In, Gilbert and Kirby.
I get that Miller back now, and sounds like a
six man rotation is in the works, which which we
talked about that last week with Eno and and I'm
sure you got or if you guys talked about with Joe,
but you probably did, and then we'll have Joe on
tomorrow she in. But the six man rotation to me

(19:05):
is not a big deal. I would like to see
Castillo get. I mean, I think so far outside of Miller,
who was not here, hasn't been here at all yet
this season, so I don't even count that. I mean,
your five guys have been healthy, yes, okay, that just
cannot be expected to take place over one hundred and
sixty two games. So you are going to need the Rock.

(19:27):
You are going to need him, and you're gonna need
good rock as opposed to bad Rock, and right now,
Bad Rock is just again Friday not good. What do
you get through four innings four innings runs? It's not there.
But the Cal Rawley thing is a deal. That's a thing.
And we Greg and I talked about this in a
cross talk a minute ago. You look at what an

(19:49):
absolute just embarrassment the American League is this season. Outside
of Tampa Bay and the Yankees, everyone else is bad,
like everyone else is not good. And if you just
cut like just, you've got Tampa Bay at twenty six
and thirteen, you got the Yankees at twenty six and fifteen,

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and the Athletics two games above five hundred. That's it,
above five hundred. Three teams above five hundred. Ale Central
Division leader Cleveland twenty one and twenty one. The two
wildcard teams that are not named the New York Yankees
right now both two games under five hundred at nineteen
and twenty one, the Rangers and the White Sox. Great,
here's the deal. You can win the AL West with

(20:35):
whatever you could put out half the damn Rainiers roster,
and you're gonna win the Ale West is awful. You're
gonna win that division. You're gonna win that division. But
I think is that what you want? Is that what
you expected going to the season.

Speaker 6 (20:52):
The answers, no, I'm tired of relying on the rest
of the league being bad to make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Well, and this isn't the Kraken where you want to
just get in. No, Like you know, you're a franchise
in its infancy. Getting in is great, that's what you
want to do. We just talked about that with March
badness and even college football playoff getting into a bowl game.
For a lot of college football teams, just getting into
a bowl games the goal March badness three hundred and

(21:18):
fifty five. However, many teams we have now in college basketball,
for about three hundred and thirty of the three to
fifty five, it's just get into the tournament's that's a win.
That is a great season, and you're happy with that.
If you get knocked out at nine am and Syracuse,
New York in the East Regional on Thursday, then you
know what, so be it. You're fine. But this baseball

(21:40):
team has evolved and matured past that. That's not what
they are anymore. This is no longer hey, let's just
get into the playoffs. This is not twenty one years
of not getting into the postseason. This is more than that.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
I just looked at the odds to right now, who
has the highest doots to win the World Series? Number one, Dodgers,
number two, Yankees number three, Atlanta, Seattle.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Marria's are number four. And that's the goal, Yes, win
the World Series. That is to win the World Series. Yes,
the goal for this team should be to get to
the World Series. You were eight outs away from getting
to your first ever World Series appearance last season. You
basically ran it all back. You added for Rare, right,
that's kind of what you did. Yep, that's that's it.
Oh Donovan, sorry Donovan and Frere. So that's what you added.

(22:21):
And I wouldn't even say yeah, because it's to say
what you added because Polanco, no Donovan, Yes, that's yeah,
it's really Ferrara. That the only addition you made of significance,
like add instead of replace. Yes. Yes, so that's the goals,
just to get in. And I'm fully like I my

(22:42):
if my concern level is like still in the green
right now for this team to make the playoffs just
and again it's just based on how bad I mean,
even your own division is so bad, like you're just
a vision's just awful. Yeah, and I mean we'll see.
I mean the Houston sixtieth, they're so bad it might
be the worst in the league. Honestly, they're really back.
I think you need to sweep this series. Personally, after

(23:02):
losing the series to Chicago, you need to sweep them.
Well save that we got we got Molly Walker, the
rod of Anderson Hurst. But you're going to get in.
But that's not what the goal is. The goal is
to get there, get to something they've never been to before,
a team that was so close you just went through
the odds. It's that's where they should be. So your
concern level four nine, four to five one is it
more for the Rock or Cal? Some people may say, hey,

(23:24):
Cal's going to pull out of it. You can look
at any number of splits you want to the current
one all this. I just looked back at the last
two weeks just for giggles, right, so just the last
fourteen days, and he has one hit. He's one for
his last thirty six. Now I know it's I know
he's o for what was it thirty three, but he's
one for his last thirty six that's an twenty eight average,

(23:47):
a one hundred on base percentage, a two to eleven
ops ops ops not ops plus batting average.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
But the problem with him is this isn't just his
second major slump of the year because he was batterly
got going bad again. It goes back to spring training.
This this is this is a concern, and I want
to say it's strictly probably because of the left what
do you call it, left side or whatever? The discomfort is.

(24:19):
He's got his side oh for thirty six, by the way,
oh for thirty six. So maybe that's the reason. But
if that is the reason, then not putting him on
the injured list is it's criminal. It is like it's
it's negligent because there's something not right. But then I
think back, he wasn't right in spring and then he

(24:42):
goes to the World Baseball Classic. He effectively gets benched
because he was so bad, because he was bad, and
we were all mad and rightfully, so, hey why is
our guy not playing? And you know it, but that
messed him up even more, not just so much being benched,
I think just because then he doesn't get the bats.
He's gone for a couple of weeks right, right, so
you're in spring, that's the place you want to work
stuff out rhythm. Yeah, couldn't do anything, and he hasn't

(25:02):
been back, and he hasn't been got he hasn't got
to the point yet where he needs to be. I mean,
a one sixty one average for the season, a two
forty four on base percentage, and a five seventy three
ops His OPS plus is sixty five.

Speaker 6 (25:15):
He's thirty five percent worse than league average right now.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
That's league average is one hundred for OPS plus, he's
at sixty five. I mentioned this with Greg. None of
us are major league baseball players or even minor league
baseball players. But I think you can sometimes equate things,
Like I think golf is a decent comp Yeah, if
you're a golfer, and a lot of you are major
Golf challenge going nine three three kJ dot com. But

(25:43):
if you're a golfer, what's the thing that you go through?
Like if you have just something that is bugging you,
like I mentioned, like I got arthritis on my knees.
Made much better now, But if I'm having a day
where the arthritis kind of flares up a little bit
and I'm not a good golfer anyway, and then all
of a sudden, I'm changing stuff like just the smallest
tweak well hitting a golf ball or hitting a baseball.

(26:07):
The one thing that they're very similar in is if
you miss by a fraction of an inch, just a
little bit, and your swing, your follow through, your finish,
all the things, all the stuff, and col we all
know is this guy's a machine in terms of preparation. Well,
if something is off by a little bit, not because
maybe he could hurt it further, but just because you

(26:28):
know what. Everyone knows what it's like. If your mind
tells you that something's not right, you're going to compensate.
He's obviously not right. Why he isn't sitting down for
ten days is beyond me, because you don't need him today.
You don't need him today, You didn't need him over
the weekend in Chicago to lose two or three. He's
hurting you by playing, he's hurting you, But more importantly,

(26:51):
he's hurting he's hurting long term. Yes, you need to
get him right. I'm convinced he could sit him for
a month and they'd still the playoffs and away you go.
He's not setting records this year. He's not six hitting
sixty home runs this season. It's not about any of
that get him right one hundred percent For Cal Rawley,
what it should be is are you ready to go?

(27:12):
In August, September, and more importantly in October? Are you
ready to go? And are you old Cal?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
That was the question I was gonna because Andrews and
I have talked about this off the air before. It
is like that people don't understand that there's two different
silos when it comes to business operations and baseball operations.
And but do you think that any part of the
optics of sitting him would play into this?

Speaker 7 (27:35):
No.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
I think you have to make one hundred percent of decay.
I don't think baseball decision. Kevin Martinez does a great
job on the business side. He's not telling Jerry to
Poto what to do in terms of in terms of I.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
Just wonder if there's any sort of cross I think.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
This is one hundred percent. They trust the player to
tell them when he's hurt, and I think it goes
back to Greg and I talked about this an hour ago.
I think what happens in all sports. You have to
protect the athlete from the athlete. Yes, you have to
protect the athlete from himself. And in this case it
might not even be physical. It just get right because

(28:08):
he's not right now. This could be a moot conversation.
Come Friday morning, he goes off. They go to Houston,
bad pitching staff, bandbox, Paul Park, easy to hit, like,
you go there and and maybe all of a sudden
he gets out of it. But I don't. I don't
for me, and everyone's got their own. I don't care

(28:30):
one I owe it about what cal Raley is doing
for the next two months. I care about what cal
Rawley looks like in August, September, and October, because that's
when that's when this baseball team needs him. Mitch Garver parda,
they can handle things behind the dish. That's fine. You
got this incredible pitching staff. Garver's good with them. Like
that's your bigger concern, right, Garver's good with him. Let

(28:50):
them figure this Outlet cal figured it out. Because if
there is something even a little bit physically wrong, maybe
not as something he can aggravate, because that's usually when
you put a guy on you to put a guy
on the list, because you don't want him get hurt further, Well,
you just need just got to heal and and and
if nothing else, figure it the hell out.

Speaker 7 (29:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
And the other kind of opposite side of this is, okay,
will it actually heal if he doesn't play?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Maybe it's just one of those things that's like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, maybe you know what an assignment you know.

Speaker 6 (29:20):
But even if that is the case, I'm gonna play
Devil's advocates. My own Devil's advocate is like I think
right now, if you were to play Mitch Garverer every day,
it gives you more than Cal rawly does.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
He is playing. He is a better player.

Speaker 6 (29:35):
Right now than Cal raw That's crazy, that's crazy to
think about that is, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, Cal has been awful, but but we all know
what Cal can do.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Yes, and I guess you can you can hope on
him bouncing out of that at any point.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
And you know, I don't know what, well we'll talk
about the stern mulli wap. I don't know what a
good series would be for him in that bandbox with
bad pitching, But I mean I would think if he's say,
say he's got seventeen eighteen at bats in him, Okay,
you're gonna see a lot. Is he gonna get you know,
six seven hits in those at bats? Is he gonna

(30:11):
get a couple and you're gonna go, wow, he like
maybe have a game where he looks like he bounces
back and then has another three games where he has nothing.

Speaker 7 (30:18):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
See for me, it's it's not even a results thing.
It's no eye tests. I agree. Yeah, the problem is
there are the optics of, oh, he he just you know,
he banged a couple of balls off the wall out
there and the little and you know, in the minor
league ball park called Houston, And next thing you know,
it's we're thinking he's good and he's not right right,
cal cal Raley May and June not a big deal.

(30:40):
Cal Raley August, September, very big deal. This team goes
as far as this dude. I mean, Randy's been great
hitting the ball, JP's i at the plate phenomenal.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Certainly Naylor's heating up. Julio is actually hitting in early May,
which is he's been fantastic. Cole Young's been a revelation. Yes,
maybe you can't expect that to last the whole season.
I don't know how earth a little bit. Yeah, so
you need cal Rawley, Yeah, you do, get them right?
All right, take a break, come back, wrap up hour
number one. We got Molliwap coming up to one o'clock
nine three point three KTERFM. All right now, molliwa Monday

(31:19):
coming up in about ten minutes time. Before we get
to Maliwap Monday. Something good. I wanted to kind of
let this be a little segment here where you can come.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
Up to your death.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
Where were you this weekend?

Speaker 3 (31:31):
I was actually I flew a surgical strike to New
York to fly.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
Home surgical strike.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, there, I flew into New York not to do
any nine to eleven things, don't worry. But my dad
was getting inducted into his high school Hall of Fame,
where I also attended.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
And so it was, you know, a ticketed event and everything.
A lot of lums.

Speaker 2 (31:55):
There were nine different people, three of them possumously getting inducted,
and a lot of classmates that I got to be
there for. But I decided that if I'm going to
use my vacation days, then that is something that I
should do. And it was a lot of travel, but
I got to see my whole family and because so
his tables of ten and everything and the mcintires made

(32:15):
a splash.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
It's very good believe that shocked by that did. Was
it high school for his playing days or longtime coach?
What was it?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Was high school and beyond? So what he did there
because he was a football player there, then he played
in college. Then he had a cup of coffee in
the NFL, and then he became both a high school
college coach throughout his time and was also a special
education teacher, which gets overlooked when you're a.

Speaker 1 (32:41):
Football coach, Marcius, it does.

Speaker 6 (32:44):
Mike Holmgren always talks about how he was a teacher
before he.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Was right and how that was kind of one of
the more fulfilling things he did. Absolute and your dad
coached small college right, which he.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Did a lot.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
So when he got to Hofster University, which is on
Long Island, it was a D three school, and he
saw them all the way up until one double A.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's awesome, which is now if you're coach, if you're
coaching at that level, you coach for the right reasons.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Seventeen years season there.

Speaker 1 (33:10):
You coach because you want to do what you just
like you want to change people and young people, and
you want to and you do it. You're not doing
it for the money. You're not doing it to get
rich anything like that. You're doing it to get the
next job, to get the next job.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Does home he could have, You know, That's how I
know so many NFL coaches now is because they came
through and went on to bigger and better things.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
And he did not want to do that to our family.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
Yeah, I just I know so many. I just you know,
even in this area. I'll just give a couple of
guys like Bratt McAdams is the coach down at PLU
for football and has done a really good job of
building that program back up. I mean, it used to
be one. It used to be a national powerhouse, probably
when your dad was coaching at that level. They were
Frosty Western. Those guys were unbelievable winning national championships, and

(33:57):
they fell on some hard times down there at PLU,
and and Brent's got that thing going in the right direction.
It gives a lot of young people a chance to
not just play sports at the next level, but also
get a great education. And so shout out to Brant
down at PLU. I'm a big fan of what he does.
Our guy and at Witworth, Ron Sandberg, and there's so
many others. My former intern in Portland, Brett Elliott, who

(34:19):
had a cup of coffee as well in the NFL
was he was. He's now the head coach at Lewis
and Clark, longtime Lindfield coach. Those guys do it for
the right reasons. There are some that are on the
trajectory up. We had an offensive coordinate A Whitworth's now
coaching for the Baltimore Ravens on their staff, So there
are guys that do that leap. But for the most part,
you're doing that like your dad did. And that's why
I've got such great respect for coaches like that. And
I think it's so cool that he was honored by

(34:40):
his high school for not just his high school tenure
but what he did afterwards. I'm glad you got a
good chance to get back there. So that's something good.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
Seven NFL players out of Hostra and five out of
Stonybrook where he was a defensive.

Speaker 3 (34:51):
Corps after Wow, that's twelve dudes who fosters their career.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
That's awesome.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
He's still mentors some of his former players are actually
high school coaches now good on Long Island, and he
goes and does free clinics with them.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
He has a coach and teaches them.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Blood you probably can't get out of it. He probably
spends a Friday night with some of those guys watching
their games.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
The first time he retired, he was out there with
a whiteboard on my five year old at the time
nephew's flag football game, just with the whiteboard drawing up plates.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
He was five. So yeah, that's why I ran into Uh.
I ran into guy. Zach Myers is his name. Zac
played college football. I believe it's Central. Maybe it was
at Western And I'm sorry, Tim Booth, you're gonna yell
at me his soul Zach for because getting those two confused.
But anyway, but he also longtime coached at Skyline as
an assistant coach. He's a coach at TA Home and
now ran it in the other day and I was

(35:40):
thinking of him because he's done such a great job
to build that program back up and get it to
the point. And we had a great conversation and we're
gonna get in this. I know everyone's been doing this,
this topic about about parents interfering and all that stuff.
I know Bell did it last week and others have
been doing it about what's going on. There's been a
lot of stories out there, John Manley and the Newstributes
and a terrific job lately of articulating some of those things.

(36:01):
A gig Harvard girls basketball coach and different things like that.
Parents trying to run people out. And it's a hard
balance when you're a high school coach, because as a
high school coach, you are tasked with winning. But that's
not everything. There's other parts about it too, and there's
a balancing act between the kids that work their butts
off and they want to win and they compete high
and then the kids that just kind of are there

(36:21):
hoping to get a letter or get a jersey, what
have you. And then the parents have said kids and
they want their kids to play more and all these
things and all those and I was having a brief
conversation with Zach about that that's a home and I'm like,
you get it, like you get In fact, most high
school coaches, whatever sport it is now is tournament season
for softball and baseball, track and field, most of them

(36:42):
really get it, and they do it for the right reasons.
And a shout out and stick taps all the way
around for all those men and women that do it
for the right reason. Because high school sports, you get
those four years. Maybe you get to play a couple
of those years. Maybe you're just on the team, but
you're part of the team and you learn so much
from it. Get that back and it's a really important time.
So good for them all the way around. Good for

(37:03):
your dad as well. Congratulations, thank you, all right, we'll
take you a break. Are you ready? I'm ready.

Speaker 8 (37:12):
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It's not you, Andrews, by the way, really now, it's

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San Diego the weekend. NBA Milwaukee Bucks says they're open
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(38:08):
in San Antonio. WNBA Storm get their first one of
the season, knocking off Connecticut yesterday. I mentioned this earlier.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
I was get to it.

Speaker 1 (38:15):
They're playing this weird season that's even worse than the
Owait Sonic season. Like they're moving to Houston next year. Connecticut, Yeah, yeah,
if they're still playing there. It's just the WNBA never
ceases to amaze. Anyway. Let's see NFL schedule come out
later this week. Yes, Thursday. Who's doing the show?

Speaker 7 (38:36):
Thursday?

Speaker 2 (38:37):
We've got a combo of anders Hurst and Jackson. Felt
be there to laugh at it all, all right, in.

Speaker 3 (38:44):
A good way.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
No, she's gonna be laughing at us. So Sale kept
playoffster zoom tonight. By the way, last night Labatan Montreal
Canadians knocked off Buffalo. That thing turned. That is gonna
be an absolute blood bath right away, like guys just
killing each other. That's why hockey should be playing kill
kill cal Let's go mullywap.

Speaker 10 (39:03):
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(39:23):
mollywop boys, Nathan Bishop and Chris Crawford with my oh
why here's ian forness.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
All right, we'll get to the absence of Bishop in
a second and all that real quick. I did tease this.
I just want to It's not a huge topic, but
we'll lean on a little bit on Chris here for
a second. Chris, oops, I should probably is that me?
I don't know anyway, all right, Chris, tell us about
Domingo Gonzalez.

Speaker 7 (39:47):
Guy they claimed off waivers from Atlanta.

Speaker 9 (39:50):
I don't even remember when his pitch really well to
coma though to one point eight O era and to
come it is kind of like a zero point five
five era. Anywhere else, let's say tough league to pitch
in just middle relief depth. A type of guy that
be up for three days probably won't be used until
they unfortunately are in.

Speaker 7 (40:10):
A blow up.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Okay, well, hopefully a blow out in their favor. That'd
be kind of nice. Absolutely, yeah, that'd be kind a nice.
Chris Crawford is here, mile hy And also, as we
said in the first hour, playing the role of Nathan
Bishop today is Anderson Hurst. Hi, Nathan'll be back next week,
So don't expect big words, No big words, no if
thesaurus needed. You'll just fire away with the same caustic,

(40:32):
somewhat pissed off negative attitude that we've come to expect
from our friend Nathan Bishop. So then, on that note,
after a one and two weekend and a three and
three week overall, let's start with mister positivity, the happy
guy on the show. Chris Crawford opening thoughts from last
week braves good white Sox not so good, buddy.

Speaker 9 (40:48):
Yeah, it was pretty ugly, and you know, if you
take away Friday. That was one of the most disappointing
road the most disappointing starts to aroach if I can
remember in a while, because boy, this offense just sucked
out loud, and you know, the bullpen was bad, the
defense wasn't very good. I mean, the only positive you

(41:11):
can take from that weekend is Logan Gilbert looked like
Logan Gilbert again.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
That was awesome to see. But it's just really rough
pumpkins right now.

Speaker 9 (41:18):
And the only saving grace from all of this, even
you know, taking away the Gilbert start is the only
saving grace really is that the AO West is just
an absolute trash fire. But we're at a quarter point now, guys,
Like this is if you took a you took a pie,
one quarter of that pie is now gone, and three
quarters of.

Speaker 7 (41:38):
A pie is still a lot of pie.

Speaker 9 (41:39):
Might be hungry, guys, it's it's still you know, a
good chunk gone, and that chance to get off to
that great start that we were all hoping for, that's gone.

Speaker 7 (41:50):
The start is over.

Speaker 9 (41:51):
We are now closer to the middle of the season,
and it's just really disappointing to see that the issues
that we feared with this team have reared their ugly
head more often than we sure would have liked a
lot of baseball to be played to be the positive guy,
but boy, oh boy, that could be looked at as
a real negative based on how these first six weeks

(42:13):
have gone.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
Anderson, Yeah, it's funny because when you look at kind
of not the big core parts of the team, but
you look at the fact that Julio's hitting in early
may You look at the fact that Luke Railey has
been a positive.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Surprise.

Speaker 6 (42:27):
You look at dom Can Zone's been a positive surprise,
Randy Roserena has been a really consistent offensive player for
the first part of this season. You look at Cole
Young and what he's done and kind of really broken
out a little bit there. The little we have seen
a Brendan Donovan we have liked. If you were to
tell me all those things, I would have said, Hey,
the Mayors aren't a pretty good spot right now. But
they're not because they have a couple absolute stinky positions.

(42:50):
One of them is there guy that came second in
MVP voting last year and Cal Rawly, and another one
is in the starting rotation. So it just seems like,
you know, even though there's a lot of things that
you could say are going pretty well. I'd say the
bullpen has been a positive surprise as well. Somehow, the
Mariners are still nineteen and twenty one at this point,
which is very hard. And that's where I don't get

(43:13):
a ton of good feelings about this getting better because
I could see a lot of regression and those other
things that I talked about.

Speaker 1 (43:20):
Last year at this time, Chris, they were five games
over five hundred. The Ale West was better, right last year?
The American League probably as a whole, was better last year.
You mentioned the dumpster fire. Is the Ale West dumpsters fire?
That is the al right, when the third team that's
above five hundred of the Oakland as in addition to
Tampa Bay and the New York Yankees like that, just

(43:42):
you can kind of you can. They called the Pacific
Division in the NHL this season a pillow fight. This
is a pillow fight. This is the Central and the
al West are an absolute pillow fight. Let me ask you, Chris,
kind of a bigger picture real quick, and I'm gonna
come back to the Mariner specifically in a second, because
I think it's all about we all agree this is
not about today, yesterday, or even the next month. It's

(44:04):
about where this team is and what it's doing in August,
specifically September, and hopefully into October. When you look around,
Chris the rest of the American League, are there teams
that you say, Okay, they're not doing well now? Seale's
probably one of those, but they could be really dangerous
later on. Or is the Ale just that bad this season?

(44:25):
Besides the two teams in the AL.

Speaker 9 (44:26):
East, so I would say there's two that come to mind.
Boston and Toronto I think are both teams that have
gotten off to poor starts that I think are better
than those numbers suggest. I don't see anybody in the
AL Central that I go, oh yeah, they're definitely better
than this. Now Kidsas City has started to come back
a little bit, and I do like that Royal's roster

(44:47):
more than most. Detroit with the Tarik Skoubl and tur
I just don't know. And in the AL West, I
just don't see it. I just don't see it from
any of these teams. Maybe Texas is a little bit
better than this, And I don't think Houston was like
thirteen and twenty two not that long ago. They're not
that bad, but I don't think they're a real contender

(45:08):
for the AOS based on how this roster is playing
and based on the injuries that they have.

Speaker 7 (45:13):
I would only go with those two teams.

Speaker 9 (45:15):
But it's pretty crazy because you know, both in terms
of record, and the thing is too the team that
has the best record right now is Tampa Bay and
I don't believe that they're real for even a second,
Like I just cannot imagine that that is a twenty
six and thirteen team, like, and obviously they're gonna play
more games, so they're obviously not that. But that's a
team that's on pace to go one hundred and eight

(45:36):
and fifty four. That's not going to happen or anything close.
The American League just it sucks right now. Joe Shean
brought it up last week, like it is just a
really really poor thing where the Mariners should be fortunate
they're not playing in the National League.

Speaker 6 (45:51):
Yeah, I kind of piggyback on Chris there. The Rays
I think are going to come back down to Earth.
I will say one thing about the Ale Central. I
think the Guardians will be there at the end of
the year, if not by default, but because they always
seem to just find out a way to get eighty
eight wins and you know, win that division. So that's
one team that I think will kind of, you know,
play a little bit better as the season moves on.

(46:12):
White Sox are a better team, but we saw them
over the weekend. I think the Mariners just beat themselves
more than anything else. But yeah, in the AO West,
I still think it's the Rangers that's kind of your main,
you know threat, depending on you know, what happens with
the health of that pitching staff. The A's this is
like their third straight years starting off super hot and
then they you know, end up kind of pittering off.
Chris and I talked about that last week as well.

(46:32):
So I just don't see a lot of legit contenders
in this in this group here, And there's a reason
why you and I Ean talked about it earlier in
the show.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
The Mariners right now of.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
The fourth best odds to win the World Series still
at this point at nineteen and twenty two on mayle eleventh.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, well, I mean it's tall, you know, one of
the taller short people out there. So Chris Crawford and
Nathan Bishop off today big thanks to Simply Seattle Simply
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four to five to one. It's it's very sports topic key,

(47:09):
but I mean, I think sports radio topic. Hey, but
you could take it whatever direction and pick up wherever
you want to start with. But who are you more
concerned with Cal Rawle or the Rock and I and I?
The obviously answer is probably Cal Rawley. But with Luis Castillo,
you've been fortunate all five guys. Now you're at six
with mct miller back, which we'll get to the six
man rotation in our second segment. Guys, by the way,
we'll hold off on that one. But they've been healthy.

(47:31):
But that doesn't always happen over one hundred and sixty
two games, so you probably need Castill to be good
at some point. Who are you more concerned with Cal's
struggles or Luis castillo struggles?

Speaker 9 (47:44):
Castillo's for sure, like for sure, And it's not because
I have no worries about cal Raley. I mean, Nathan
brought it up in our text chain that his swing
just doesn't look healthy. He does not look like he
is healthy. But I'm way more concerned about Castillo because
of something that I brought up with.

Speaker 7 (48:02):
Joe last week.

Speaker 9 (48:03):
Is that because Luis Castillo's arsenal has gotten worse and
because he is a guy who pitters can pick up
the baseball against, because of the fact that he generates
no extension, like no extension whatsoever. I believe he's still
in the bottom two percentile this year, and I can't
imagine who's generating less, but the fact that people can

(48:25):
pick this up now, and because of his fastball command
being so poor right now, I'm way more concerned because
I mentioned this when they made the trade, that Luis
Castillo is going to be a really solid option for them,
but it's going to age poorly at some point, and
I don't even mean age poorly. It's going to creter.
And I have my concern right now that Luis Castillo

(48:47):
is in that crater mode. Now, I'll point out the
last two starts. I thought he looked good against Kansas City.
One bad inning and some poor defense behind him. It
could have easily been a six inning, one run start,
and he was two pitches away in Chicago from having
a decent one. But I don't want to go full
Jeff Fesero, like I don't want to go, oh, I
was just one bad pitch or anything like that. At
some point, the results have to be there, right. I'm

(49:10):
way more concerned there, because here's the thing. Let's say
cal Rawley actually is like a six hundred oh ps guy.
I have my real doubts that he is, but let's
say he is. He still provides a ton of value
behind the plate. He still is somebody who has come
up clutch in massive situations for the Mariners, and I
really doubt that's not gonna happen. But even if the

(49:30):
bat is a complete zero, you are still going to
get value from cal Rawley behind the plate. You're not
getting any value from Luis Castillo. If he keeps pitching
like this, he is a net negative. Cal Rawley can
at least be like a one to two win player
for you. I'm much more concerned about the fact that
one six of their rotation, it appears, is going to

(49:52):
be a guy who's gonna throw throw a lot of
five inning, four run starts, and that's just not good enough.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
They have just two wins this season in the eight
starts by Luis Castile. Of course he doesn't have one,
but just look at the team wins and his starts
are two and six and thoughts, yeah, I'm gonna go
the other way.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
I think I'm pretty significantly more concerned with Cal mainly because,
and I agree with Chris, I don't think this is
who he is. But I don't know if we're gonna
get the cow that we know and love if this
injury continues to linger and they don't put him on
the il like they feel like it feels like they
need to at this point. But the reasoning behind that
is because I'm looking at relative to expectations going into

(50:30):
this year. You knew you needed cal Rawley to be
one of your just aircraft carriers, so to speak, on
your offense to help you win games, and he is
so far below what we expected of him going into
this year that I expected Castillo to be the fifth
best starter in this rotation. Now it's still worse than
I expected it at this point, but he's in terms

(50:53):
of what you were relying on to win games. Going
into this year, Castillo was a smaller piece to the puzzle,
and not to mention he's only playing once every five
days now I realize once every five days is and
possibly even six days at this point. This is another
thing about the six man rotation that I'm sure we
can get into, so I don't. I'm more concerned with
cal Rawley because that's who you need. Your offense runs

(51:16):
through him, and we saw how much better this offense
looked in twenty twenty five compared to the previous two
years because cal Rowly took that giant step forward.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
I mentioned earlier.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Julio's playing well, and you have all these other positives
on the offensive side of the ball, and it still
feels like there's a lot to be desired on that
because I think that's just how much of a gap
from what we expected him to be to what he
is doing.

Speaker 1 (51:40):
Cole Young, by the way, five for his last thirty one,
so he's starting to kind of come back down to earth.

Speaker 7 (51:44):
A little bit about a bat in the ninth inning
last night just pissed me off. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (51:49):
F coul Young has come through clutch, like really really
clutch for them. That's one of the worst at bats
I've seen in a long time with the bases loaded,
with Sir Anthony Deminguz having no idea where to strike
is pop out in that situation. Cole Jung has been
a major positive. He was a major reason why you
lost that game.

Speaker 1 (52:08):
Patients there, you're walking right like you like you're just
a patient at bat. You're gonna walk like just you
don't you don't have to drive the ball to right
field every single time. Just just take take it. What's there,
Let's go. Let's go back to Cal Chris for a second.
The you know, I just whatever's wrong, it's affecting him.
It may not be like a catastrophic it's so weird,

(52:30):
like the injured list right in baseball. And you mentioned
you filled in last week, and I appreciate that with
she and and you know, I think Joe calls it
the Dodger vacation or whatever it is. When you guy
gets thort on the injured list for the ten days,
you may not be hurting yourself physically more severe and
hurting yourself more. But at what point is it with Cal?
You got to sit him down and let's just go

(52:51):
back like the bigger picture with Cal Chris offensively, and
I'm with you what you said about the defense and
how he runs the staff and all those things. I
think we all know. That's kind of why we all
the tires last year and said, why is this guy
not the MVP. He's not just standing in the right field.
He's doing a lot more. But for this team to
go and do what it needs to do, and what
it needs to do is get to the damn World Series.

(53:12):
Someone demanded that at the start of the year. I'm
not sure who it was, as a wise man said,
I demanded the World Series. Yes, yes, Jordan Tuttu did,
and I he demanded it. They need Cal, they need
good Cal offensively. When he was bad in spring World
Baseball Classic bad, that kind of that, that certainly didn't

(53:32):
help him getting bench, not getting at bats. Then he
starts slow, has a little bit of a bump up,
and now here we are again, And what is it
old for his last thirty six or whatever the hell
it is. I mean, it's just it's it's does he
need to sit for ten days and just either get healthy,
get right, get mental. Whatever.

Speaker 9 (53:49):
It's a tough one because here's the thing we saw
how Cal looked after a couple of days off, and
the timing has just been way off, like way off.

Speaker 7 (53:58):
Ye, how's that time going to look with ten days off?
How is that timing gonna look?

Speaker 9 (54:02):
Because I do think Cal is a creature of comfort,
like most sports, most athletes are right, like they love
their routine, and Cal is a guy who loves to
play every day. It's one of his things that you know,
and you know, they wrote an article about it, like
that he knows his body better than anybody else, and
the Mariners trust him and stuff. But like, here's the thing,

(54:23):
I don't know if I would actually put Cal out
of the lineup because I need his defense back there.
Mitch Garver's not a good defensive player. Johnny Pereida is
a so so defensive player and a terrible bat. You
gotta move Cal down in the lineup now. They already
did it yesterday, right, they moved him to the cleanup spot.
I moved him down to sixth or seventh until he
gets right. And I just have so much trust in

(54:45):
Cal rawly figuring this out. And also the fact that, like,
if you are talking about sitting him down for that long,
what are you talking about when he looks like what
he how is he going to look when he comes back,
because he looks awful since that rest just absolutely awful.
And I don't think the answer is more rest. I
don't think that's going to be what helps him in

(55:07):
the short term. Anyway, it could help him in the
long term.

Speaker 7 (55:10):
I don't know. You don't know.

Speaker 9 (55:11):
Cal really doesn't know because he's never experienced anything like
this before. But he's clearly not at his best. I
don't know that you can guarantee that sitting him is
going to guarantee that Cal is going to be at
his best.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Yeah, I think that's the thing is like nobody knows,
and even the guy. And here's the thing with the athlete.
The athlete does know his or her body better than
anybody else, including a training store. But the athlete, if
they're worth their salt, and this guy is, and then
some will always just try to fight through stuff and
play through stuff. Well, unless you're an NBA player, then
you have load management and then you take a seat

(55:45):
and you worry about you know, load management and all
those things. But most athletes will push through and fight
through when maybe that's not the most why And again
maybe I'm not saying I'm not saying this is negligent
in terms of he could get hurt worse. I'm just saying,
like hitting a baseball's hard. I think I couldn't do it.
Most of us couldn't do That's why we're sitting here.

(56:06):
You have anything that's messing with your mind and how
you're gonna tweak that swing's it's not right and it's
gonna it's gonna screw up. The lineup is Chris, you
almost called it as as you were speaking. Yes, it
came out. Andrews, what do you got about thirty seconds ago?

Speaker 6 (56:20):
Yeah, Brendan Donovan leading off, Julio Rodriguez, Josh Naylor. Cal
Rawly is still in the clean up spot. Uh Randy Roseraina,
five Rayley, Crawford, Canzone, and Young. And the thing about that,
look at all the players batting below cal Rawly right now.
Randy Roserena one of your best offensive players this year.
Luke Rayley was one of your only good offensive players

(56:41):
in Chicago.

Speaker 11 (56:42):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (56:42):
JP Crawford actually been pretty dang good at the bat
this year, Dom Canzone, same thing, and then Cole Young
we've talked about him. So all those guys are playing
better than Cal right now, and they're batting below him
in the line.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
You're not gonna put Cal more than four though, right Like,
that's just there's a respect that comes into play. Thirty six,
I put him at six.

Speaker 9 (56:59):
I would probably split the difference and go five right now,
just because I want to get more at bats for
Randia or Arena right now. Like he's been such a
solid bat. He's one of the worst defensive left fielders
in the history of baseball. Slightly hyperbolic there. To not
make that throw yesterday is just inexcusable.

Speaker 7 (57:19):
But he got off.

Speaker 9 (57:20):
He got it there and then and then some he
took a he took a bad quarterback time to get
rid of the ball and then airmailed.

Speaker 7 (57:31):
It's a joke, but I didn't there.

Speaker 9 (57:34):
That's that's yeah, It's just he's a bad defensive player,
but he's a way better hitter right now. And you
gotta get we're deep enough that you can't just say
I guarantee Col's going to be even the hitter than
he was in twenty twenty three. Like, we're deep enough
there that there are reasons for concerns. But I just
you know, there's there's some reverence there, and there is

(57:57):
a fact that I can't guarantee that it's better to
have JP Crawford or Luke Raley hitting against Cal Rawly,
even as bad as Big Dumber has been to start
this year.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Chris will start with you Anders and will wrap up
this segment, Chris, what's a good week against Okay, it's
that pitching staff in that bandbox of a building. What
can you learn from Cal Rawly over the next four games?

Speaker 7 (58:21):
I don't know, that's a really good question.

Speaker 9 (58:23):
I will say this, If he's bad in this series,
then there's something seriously wrong because this is the place
he's performed well in. This is a bad pitching staff.
This is a very friendly offensive offensive confines to be sure.
You know, if he has a great you can't just
say oh Cal's back either, you know, that's not how Yeah,

(58:44):
I will say that there is more negative that you
could probably take from this than positive, which is kind
of a silly thing, but we do this in sports
a lot. But yeah, I would say that if he
struggles this series, I would say that the concern level,
which for me is like a six problem, goes up
to like an eight and a half.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Yeah, I don't.

Speaker 6 (59:02):
I don't actually put too much on who they're facing.
I realize they're in kind of a you know, a
little league ballpark and against a pretty bad pitching staff
in the Houston Astros right now. But he just needs
to look comfortable for me. That's the only thing that
I need to see. I need to see some cow
rawlely swings. I don't even care if his results don't
improve it he's still over. But I see him hit
the ball hard a couple of times and look like he,

(59:25):
you know, is understanding the strike zone a little bit
better too, instead of chasing literally everything. But that's all
I need to see to know that he's okay and
that this is not going to be something we need
to worry about.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Moving on, my well, Monday brought to my simply sales,
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Speaker 5 (59:44):
Like?

Speaker 1 (59:44):
Why we had a lot of things in this world
to worry about. Why are we so worried about that?
Maybe it's just that performance a cast deal. We'll ask Chris,
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I'm not sure why this is is this always is
a very hot topic. And man, Chris, we've been doing
this for years. It feels like we've had this conversation
a few times over the years. Six man rotation. I
want to think it was back when Marco Gonzalez was

(01:00:41):
still here, right, Is that what it was? Yeah, it's
like six man rotation, Chris Crawford, baseball guy. Why do
baseball guys get so upset when they hear six man rotation?

Speaker 9 (01:00:51):
Because people fear change and because of the fact that
they think they know everything. And I don't know, man,
it's just look, pitchers don't like it. Pitchers are creatures
of comfort, like we were just talking about with Big Dumper.
They like their five day rotation, like they like that
they throw and then they have an off day, and

(01:01:12):
then they have a throw day, and then there might
be a throw day before, but then they pitch right well,
this changes everything.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
This takes them off of their schedule.

Speaker 9 (01:01:19):
This is you know, the type of thing where it's
almost like the people who talk about preseason football, who
say whether you're not you're supposed to play your starters,
or whether or not they're supposed to get reps against
the good guys or reps against the guys who are
going to be begging groceries. It ultimately it doesn't matter,
and I think it's a great way to Number one

(01:01:39):
manage some innings.

Speaker 7 (01:01:40):
It does matter.

Speaker 9 (01:01:41):
You were just talking about that you want this team
playing well in August in September, right, Well, if this
gives them a chance to have a little extra oomph
in their fastball or a little more biting their slider,
then that's a good thing. It's also a way to
bring back Bryce Miller, I think without as much pressure
on him. You know the fact that he's only going
to be pitching once a week. That look, He's looked great.

(01:02:02):
In his rehab starts, he looked phenomenal, and his postseason
starts he looked like a garbage pitcher for the majority
of twenty twenty five, like bad, one of the worst
starters in all of baseball. So this is a way
to kind of mitigate disaster, I think. So I don't
have an issue with it. Ultimately, I think they're going

(01:02:24):
to figure out a way to go down to a
five man rotation. Those things tend to play themselves out.
You could argue that their best, one of their best
starters still isn't part of this rotation because of how
good kid Anderson has been. But this is kind of
a nothing burger to me. I don't think that. I
think people who are overreacting to this just like to overreact.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
Just before I go to Anderson, Chris, is this the
best option that they had and the right option that
they had with Miller be coming back up.

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
So probably the only thing I'll say is with these
injuries to the bullpen and what I think Bryce Miller's
fastball could do out of the bullpen, I think that
would be a really interesting situation there because could be
a high leverage guy, could be a guy who you know,
works the six to seventh inning to get you to
the brash Muno situation. But they're not gonna do that,

(01:03:11):
in part because Bryce Miller will have a lot more
trade value if he looks like a starter. Same for
Emerson Hancock, and same for you know, Luis Castillo. To
a point, that's not gonna happen because of his contract.
But I think that it's probably the best. But you
could make a strong argument that Bryce Miller would really
help this.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
Bullpen right now.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
See that's really interesting because I think most people, if
they wanted to put one of those two guys in
the bullpen, they would have said Luis Castillo because of
the way he's been pitching lately. But I actually totally
agree with you. I think, especially now this is your
second kind of bigger concern with Bryce Miller in terms
of his health in the last two years, you definitely
want to slow play that as much as possible, which
is why I think the sixth man rotation is the
way to go. Plus, you can kind of almost have

(01:03:50):
an internal competition between Castillo and Miller. You can kind
of have that with Miller in rehab. But it's like,
that's not it's not going to really tell you what
he does against big league hitters. Having these guys both
face big league hitters for a specific amount of time, whoever,
you know, kind of comes out on top. Like Chris
said it, these things time to play themselves out a
little bit. Yeah, and especially when you have injury concerns

(01:04:13):
in the last year plus from Logan Gilbert, George Kirby,
Brian Wu, Bryce Miller. And that's and that's four of
your five starters right now, or four of your six.
I guess if you go to a six man then this,
this six man rotation would help you be fresh. I
can't help but think to myself, if they had a
six man rotation last year, Brian wo would have been

(01:04:35):
completely healthy for the playoffs. So and that would have
made a huge difference I think moving moving forward, So
I don't know, I know there's there's contingency, and like
you don't want to watch Luis Castillo pitch. I totally
understand that he hasn't been good enough, but there's no
guarantee that Bryce Miller comes up and is better either,
So I would I would definitely at least give them
like a side by side view would be like, all right,

(01:04:56):
whoever pitch is better in this month or whatever, however
long you want to do it. That's kind of the
answer that gets played out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I think it's interesting too, because Miller will then miss
San Diego, right because of the six man rotation he
will take on, He'll see Houston, and his next game
will be get against the White Sox at home. So
but yeah, I get some get a couple of major
league starts in there, Chris. I'm with you, though. I
it seems like, and this is all sports. Sometimes we
get really revved up about certain things, and then one

(01:05:21):
of the reasons they do certain things are because there
is natural attrition and professional sports guys get hurt. Whatever
sick paternity doesn't, mats stuff happens, and then it turns
into being a nothing burger like you just said. And
with Miller, Hey, if they go three weeks with a
six man rotation, that's actually not a bad thing because
you know what that tells you everyone's still healthy.

Speaker 7 (01:05:42):
Right, Yeah, right, Yeah, that's a really good point.

Speaker 9 (01:05:46):
And you know, ultimately that's the most important thing I
think is having number one staying with these teams. Number
two is having everybody working at all cylinders. Like I
hate the pete quarrel fourth quarter so much because people
take it way too literally, and I think the coach
actually took it way too literally too. But at the
same time, if you're asking me when do I want

(01:06:08):
the Seattle Mariners to be playing at their best, the
answer is always. But if there's a gun to my
head and they say it can either be at the
beginning of the year or the end of the year,
I'll take the end of the year every freaking time. Like,
it's important that these guys are firing at their very
best when it quotes unquote matters, It matters.

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
Now, don't get it twisted.

Speaker 9 (01:06:27):
But if I had my choice staying healthy and keeping
this team in the best position to dominate come September
and October, which is again what I demand, then yeah,
that's a good thing. And ultimately I agree with Anders.
I agree with what they're going to go through here.
I think as six man rotation makes all the sense
in the world.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
And then one of the kind of uh things against
it that people bring up all the time, as oh,
then you're taking out one of the arms of the bullpen.
I agree, it's not the best timing with Spire out,
with Brash out right now, and now with Ferrara going
on the paternity list, it's not great timing. But those
guys both I know, for Ara obviously he's not an
injury related he'll be back soon. Spire and Brash are

(01:07:06):
both kind of understood to be not long term things,
so once those kind of guys come back. Plus, the
guy that you're taking out of the bullpen is not
the Spire Brash for Air guy. It's the the with
the I forget, you don't even know his name. Uh,
the guy that they just called up today. Probably it's
the back Yeah, it's the back of the bullpens.

Speaker 9 (01:07:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's Gonzales excuses. But yeah, they're they're not
They're not removing a high leverage.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
No, it's the back of the bullpen guy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:35):
And honestly, one less reason for Dan Wilson to go
to that guy is a good reason for me. So
that's kind of where I'm thinking, like, just keep it
like simple, keep keep your guys healthy, and uh, if
you have one less bad, low leverage arm to go to,
that's fine with me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
All right, let's uh so interesting week. You got four
against the Astros and then you got three against the
hated rival in the Vetter Cup, plus sweepstake see San
Diego Padres as well. Always always just a really very
very bitterly historical right. Yeah, it's it's Red Sox Yankees level. Sure, absolutely,

(01:08:13):
So it's a seven game week, Chris, what are we
looking for?

Speaker 7 (01:08:16):
I want five and two.

Speaker 9 (01:08:17):
I want a five and two week, and I won't
be shocked if we get a five and two week,
because every time this team looks like it's at its
absolute worst, it seems to bounce back, which is a
funny thing to say. We've only played six weeks, but
god doesn't feel like longer. This season is just crawling by.
I want a five and two week. I want three
or four against Houston, and I want two of three.
You know, it'd be nice to get that sweep so

(01:08:38):
you could tie the Vetter Cup. It's such a stupid,
freaking thing. I just I hate forced rivalry more than
I think I hate anything in sports, and like pretending
that this is a thing is just and I know
it's just for S and g's, but boyle boy, is
it a really dumb thing. But long story short there,
I want a five and two week mile y mile

(01:09:02):
Yuh please check that out and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
NBC Sports Slash go check him out, my man, Chris Crawford, Uh,
you got nothing to promote Andrews. You got to get
me ready for a daily power play next, So you
got nothing but nia playing the role of Nathan Bisha
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next week. So Chris, thank you, buddy, appreciate great job
left week, filling in lots of I had a lot
of good feedback. Who was that guy filling in those?

(01:09:25):
Those three sounded like they had fun? Why are you back?
And then why are you back? And I did check
the text and I said the three or four that
said wire you back? None of them are yours number.

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Appreciate that Keith Keith, Keith.

Speaker 8 (01:09:38):
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Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
Yeah. Hell of a job, though, buddy. Uh, that means
I'm gonna take some vacation later on this summer, all right.
I don't have to worry about that. So grace stuff
my wi go check it out, Chris Crawford, great stuff,
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Before I get to a couple of local hockey stories
of note, real quick, I think I think our friend
Sarah Spain was just talking about the PWHL I hate
seeing this stuff. So supposed to be a game, a
deciding game five tonight in I think this is the
semifinals see semi finals between Montreal and Minnesota. The game

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is being postponed. Several Montreal players are suffering from neumal virus.
Hey yea, yeah, yeah yeah, that is not a fun
viruss the hannavirus thing on the ship. Yeah, all those
things make me nervous. Don't like.

Speaker 3 (01:11:54):
Well, we all have PTSD from try.

Speaker 1 (01:11:56):
That's exactly why, exactly why, so they're not playing that
game tonight. Okay, let's get to the stuff we're going
to talk about. Where do you want to start cracking?
I'll come by to cracking one so.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Big.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Actually, let we do this Coachella Valley. First, Coachella Valley
advanced in the American Hockey League playoffs. They'll take on
Colorado in the next round. That's the Eagles. They're the
affiliate of the Avalanche, so we really are rooting them on.
How about the playoffs that a couple cracking farm hands
are having right now. The leading score in the American
Hockey League playoffs Oscar Fisker Mulegard. Let's go six goals

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and four assists in eight games being played. Yanni Newman
three five and eight. He is tied for third in
terms of scoring so far in the American Hockey League playoffs.
Jagar Furkus also in the top ten in terms of
playoffs scoring. So good for those guys doing a nice
job along the way. I like to see that playoff
time Moost guys having some success and again they're taking

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on Colorado in the next round. Speaking of the Kraken,
Julius Mietnen crack and draft pick WHL Player of the
Week after a six point two goal game or a
six points in two games. First two games the WHL
Championship series four goals and two assists. I'm sorry, two
goals and four assists. The Similatips splitting the first two
games against Prince Albert in the cann Prince Albert hosting

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the next two games series of tied one game at piece.
I said Monday, it's actually tomorrow. Tuesday is game three.
Wednesday is Game four in Saskatchewan. But Julius Mietnen still
continue to get done. Mike's got at Mike Betton has
an interview with him up on the podcast page for
I Think the Kraken Audio Network excellent, So I'm surprised
you're not. But we do like Mina and having success. Wait,

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I think I'm I'm really high on him. I'm excited
to see what he does. And by the way, is
an update as we talked about on Friday. Did you
see the picture on social media? All three of them
they were there? Did we do we not talk about
the fact Beton and his army, Yes, the Mike Betton army,
the Krack and Audio Network army making their way up
to Angel the Wins Arena altogether too, all together holding

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hands Kumbai. Ah, it was Benton, Fits and Al up
there at least on Friday. I don't think went Saturday,
but Friday and Friday they were not good luck because
the tips got beat. But yeah, and I I wasn't invited.
Were you invited?

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
No? Was there a party?

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
I know?

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Yeah? Now Cracking Audio Network party and you're you're part
of the Cracking Audio Network.

Speaker 2 (01:14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Everyone talks about Al Fitz and Mike. They forget about
the guy running the board, Smoger or you filling in
on many A broadcasts. I think there was about fifteen
of them this year. Yeah, they were they're a lot. So, yeah,
you were not invited either. No, I was not teer.
You know. For as nice as guy as Benton is,

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he's kind of he's kind of like thinking, he's kind
of a snop. Yeah, kind of like the popular kid
drinking his own kool aid a little bit, kind of
the popular kid, kind of the popular kid, you know,
looking down on the rest of us common man. Yeah, definitely,
I know. Yeah, I'll have to check with like JT
and Alison and Brett and Piper and see if anybody
else was. Yeah, I don't think, yeah, like it was.

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I think it was just them. Benton's sitting there in
the owner suite and ever they have an angel, the Wins.
Mike please come back, the voice of the Tips. We
love you, come on back.

Speaker 7 (01:15:15):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
That's your daily power. That's your daily power, probably brought
to you by Issa Kwa, Honda Caboda. Good look to
the Tips as they try to get things going tomorrow
and take a two to one. Seriously, NHL Playoffs continue
tonight as well. Man Montreal and Buffalo is going to
be they resume that one, I believe tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (01:15:32):
Yeah, that is that is They do have a Colorado
Minnesota tonight, which Minnesota got there, got it to two
to one, so hopefully they can tie up.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
And I think they're changing goaltenders Avalanche tonight they're going
with Blackwood. They're going to Blackwood.

Speaker 6 (01:15:45):
So not only are the Minnesota changing goaltenders in the
middle of the series, the Colorado Avalanche.

Speaker 1 (01:15:50):
Just the one game tonight. It is what Andrews just mentioned.
It's the Colorado and Minnesota game. Colorado leaning two to
one at Minnesota at home they can pull even tones
even seriously, who is called a lot of facing Minnesota
Minnesota there it is, Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
I like it subtle, ye, so elegant.

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
Tomorrow Ducks and Golden Knights will continue their series. That
series tied to too, that's going at least six, probably
seven when it's all said and done. Montreal than two
to one in their series. They can take a three
to one lead tomorrow in that series. Carolina over the
weekend completed a second state straight sweep. They are now
eight and zero in the playoffs. See, I almost don't
like that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
If I'm if I'm a Canes fan, I would have
wanted a loss by now because it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
They were so much better than their two teams they've
played so far in the playoffs like it's there. They've
had quite an easy path. So, to be honest with you,
Ottawa and Philadelphia both, I mean, we will make fun
of the Pacific Division of the Western Conference all you want.
I think both those teams.

Speaker 6 (01:16:43):
Serve I was gonna say, I think whoever comes out
of the West is winning the Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
Personally. Oh yeah, no matter what. Yeah, Colorado Minnesota to
me are the two best teams in the league.

Speaker 5 (01:16:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
I wouldn't mind seeing a Montreal Colorado series. That'd be
a fun one. That was like kind of a Battle
of Quebec. Yeah, yeah, with the Nordias. That's right, because
I think a lot of people in Quebec City who
hated Montreal are still Avalanche fans, are right, they probably
hate the Avalanche. That means US rooting for Oka. See yeah, yeah,

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so we'll see. All right, that's Nailli Powder play. Let's
say break come back. I can't wait. We haven't talked
to him for a while. We want to get to
this a big news in college basketball. We're expanding. We
not me, I don't want to, but someone is expanding
the NCAA tournament to seventy six teams. Why and how
that makes no sense? But we'll talk about that. Our
guy Gary Parrish coming up next.

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Hardy a first team All SEC selection last season shot
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the surgery, US men's national team midfielder Johnny Cardosa will
miss the World Cup. Ankle surgery could almost guarantee a
spot now for Christian Rodan on the roster, but Andrews
tells me that makes the team not quite as good.
That's not good, So it's kind of yes and no.
Here in Seattle, every Silver tips tomorrow con the WHL
Championship Series. He'll be in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan. That series

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has tied one game apiece. Julius Miette and then named
WHL Player of the Week. He's a crack and farm
hand and it's having a hell of a playoff run
right now, looking like every bit the real deal. Storm
winning their first game of the season, knocking off the
Connecticut soon to be Houston team yesterday in a matinee affair,
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does it? Like? I mean, it's been a month and
a half since we really heard it officially, but we
had to have it. We had to have it.

Speaker 8 (01:19:19):
On been wanting to talk to him for a while
because all this stuff have been percolating, but it seems
to be a done deal now joining us on the
Beacon Plumbing hot line.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
One of our favorites, one of your favorites.

Speaker 8 (01:19:31):
Gary Parrish, CBS Sports Iron, College Basketball Podcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:19:35):
Hello, sir, How are you wonderful? How are you?

Speaker 5 (01:19:38):
How you?

Speaker 1 (01:19:39):
I'm all right, man, I'm all right. I would say
this should be kind of a quieter time of the
year for Gary Parrish, and it's been anything but that.
Before I get to the tournament itself. We are not
an NBA city, as you well know up here, Gary.
We hope to be someday again. That's the plan. Maybe
in the next maybe in the next two years. That
seems to be where we're trending right now, in the
next couple of years. The NBA Draft Lottery did take

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place yesterday. You and I talked about some of these
great players throughout the year. I'm interested in it this
year because it feels I think there's only one international
player that may be a first round selection. Everything else
is like college stars. Top to bottom. Washington, Utah, Memphis,
Chicago and the Clippers won two, three and four in
the draft. The Wizards win it Utah against the second

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pick if Gary Parrish was sitting in a GM's office.
Where would you go one, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 7 (01:20:28):
I would go aj Debonsa at number one.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
And it's interesting because I don't think he's the safest
of the projected top five picks. That's probably Cameron Boozer,
and I don't think he's necessarily the projected top five
pick with the highest ceiling. That might be Darren Peterson.
But the Bonsa I think is the best combination of
there's just no scenario, barring injuries, where he's not at
least really.

Speaker 7 (01:20:52):
Good, like a really high level score, so he's safe.

Speaker 4 (01:20:55):
And then he's also got the high ceiling where if
you told me he won three scoring titles someday, that
doesn't seem unrealistic to me. So I would go to
Bonsa one. I believe if I'm utah, I'm taking Darren
Peterson three. And then it gets a little interesting for
me because I'm not just a college basketball analyst or

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NBA draft analyst, but like I actually work.

Speaker 7 (01:21:19):
I'm employed by the Memphis Grizzlies, and so you know,
I was asked this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:21:25):
So when I put out my mod draft, most people
have Cameron Boozer going third to the Grizzlies, and I
have Caleb Wilson from North Carolina going third to the Grizzlies,
And a lot of people have looked at that and
sort of taken note of the one person who does
a mont draft who actually works for an NBA franchise
says that NBA franchise is taking Caleb Wilson, not Cameron Boozer.

Speaker 7 (01:21:47):
So I should say I do not have inside information
about that.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
I actually try to keep a little bit of a
distance between me and the Grizzly front office, just because
sometimes I prefer not to note they I don't need
to know, just so it doesn't shape the way I
think or talk. And so I don't really have any
idea what the Grizzlies are going to do. In fact,
if I were betting, I could understand why they might
lean Boozer over Wilson. But in my head, Wilson's the

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better prospect in terms of highest ceiling, and that's why
I would have him going three. Then I would go
Boozer at four, and I think Darius Acuff out of
Arkansas would round out my top five. But to your
initial point, one of the reasons this draft is so
interesting is because we are familiar with almost all of
these players, because like the first ten picks are going

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to be perhaps just freshmen from the greatest freshman class ever,
you know, nineteen to the first twenty could be people
who played.

Speaker 7 (01:22:45):
College basketball this season.

Speaker 4 (01:22:47):
And that's a byproduct of NIL keeping players in school
longer and NIL and revenue share luring international prospects who
would otherwise be coming to the NBA Draft familiar with
the NBA scouts, familiar with them, but not your average
basketball fan because we're not watching basketball in Spain or

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basketball in Portugal, basketball in you know, France. But now
those players are being lured to the ACC and the
Big twelve and the Big Ten before they go to
the draft. So there's a certain level of familiarity there
that we haven't always had heading into these drafts.

Speaker 5 (01:23:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
I By the way, Husky fans Hans Steinbach is Steinbach
is expected to be a high draft pick, a lottery
pick as well, the power forward slash center out of
Washington who Huskies didn't have a good season, but he
had a hell of a season in the Big t
I love a cuff, by the way, I think I
love a cuff Caleb Wilson, the guy that you mentioned
for Memphis, maybe number three, maybe just but flew under

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the radar for some fans just because he was hurt
at the end of the year.

Speaker 7 (01:23:49):
I'm sorry you were breaking up just a little bit.
Can you repeat that just?

Speaker 1 (01:23:53):
I love Acuff by the way, but I was saying
with Caleb Wilson from North Carolina, is that just a
guy that maybe flew into the radar for some fans
just because he was banged up.

Speaker 4 (01:24:01):
I think what happened is the last time we saw
him play was February tenth, and he was supposed to
come back, but then while rehabbing one injury after he
was cleared for contact play, you know, participation, broke his
other hand dunking a basketball. Just a random, you know,
fluky thing that happened, and at that point he was

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shut down for the year, so he did not get
a chance to, you know, have that NCAA tournament run
that can turn you into a household name. But the
truth is he played this year against Kansas, he was
on the same court as Darren Peterson outplayed him. Played
this year against Duke, was on the same court as
Cameron Boozer, outplayed him played this year against Kentucky, was

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on the court against the most expensive roster in college basketball,
outplayed them. Went three to zero in those games against
Duke Kentucky Kansas, averaging like twenty points eight rebounds. He
is a freak athlete, like the best athlete in the
draft foot ten. He has an incredible motor, and he's

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a ridiculous competitor. And I just think that the reason
I'm a little higher on him than some is because
that kind of stuff does matter to me when you're
trying to distinguish between elite talents, when you're trying to
distinguish between Caleb Wilson and a Darren Peterson. One of
those guys is on records saying I'm trying to kill

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everybody I play every time, and the other one is
on record saying.

Speaker 7 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I'm kind of a loner. I keep to myself.
I don't love that. When you compare him to Cameron Boozer.

Speaker 4 (01:25:33):
The athleticism just pops like there's no denying that Cameron
Boozer has been great and will be really good. But
there are some questions about at his height, at his
lack of athleticism, whether he's going to be able to
score as easily in the NBA against top tier athletes
and size the way he has done in high school
and college, it's a fair question to ask. There are
not those types of questions with Caleb Wilson. The question

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with him is will the shot come around? Will he
ever be a real wrett from the perimeter? But even
if it doesn't to any sort of meaningful degree, just
the way he plays, with his athleticism and size and
physical tools, it's just hard to imagine him not being
really special. And if it pops the way it could pop,

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and I emphasized could, he could be one of the
ten best players in the world. And I think to
circle it back to the Grizzlies. That's a franchise that
thought it had a star in John Morant, but they're
going to have to move on from him. They need
another star. And if you take aj Debons and Darren
Peterson off the board, I think of everybody else, Wilson's
got the best chance to be a star of everybody left.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
As we're watching the NBA playoffs, so as stars matter,
all right. Gary Parrish joining a CBS Sports inside College
basketball March Madis has expanded seventy six teams. We talked
to Gary every year from roughly January through April. During
March manus during the end of the basketball season. We
get all revd up. We're excited, Gary, Why because I'll
ask us who wants this and why?

Speaker 4 (01:27:00):
Well, you can always figure out the why by figuring
out who wants it. So who's the first person, you know,
a prominence of power who started talking about this in
any sort of public way.

Speaker 7 (01:27:10):
It was Greg Thinkie, the SEC Commissioner.

Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
So don't ever let them trick you into thinking the
West Coast Conference push for this and wanted this, that
the Missouri Valley Conference pushed for this and wanted this.
They might not mind it, but they didn't push for it,
and in fact, even if they did push for it,
it would matter because they don't have the power. The
truth is the SEC and the Big Ten the Big
Twelve as well, But really the SEC and the Big
Ten have made their already super competitive leagues more competitive

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in recent years by adding big time athletic departments in
the SEC, Texas and Oklahoma in the Big Ten, as
you know, Washington, Oregon, USD, UCLA.

Speaker 7 (01:27:46):
And what that does in both of those leagues.

Speaker 4 (01:27:49):
Is push every middle of the pack in below program
in the sportmen's basketball down a notch. If you have
to finish sixth in the SEC, now you might finish
ninth in the SEC. If you used to finish seventh
in the Big Ten, now you might finish eleventh in
the Big Ten. Simply put, Greg Sankte and the Big
Ten commissioner, they want to have a higher percentage of

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their teams in the NCAA tournament. They figured out a
way to get more money out of the television networks
to make it a profitable endeavor, and then they held
the leverage of if you don't do this, we could
just break away as soon as these contracts are over
and do our own tournament without you. That's how you
get the little guys to go along with it. That's
how you go from sixty eight to seventy six. Simply put,

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it's in that negative.

Speaker 7 (01:28:33):
We don't need this.

Speaker 4 (01:28:34):
We haven't left a good team out of the NCAA Tournament,
and as long as I can remember, we put average
teams in every year. We don't need to put more
average or bad teams in. But it's a money maker
and the most powerful people in college sports wanted it
to happen. Whenever you get powerful people give them a
way to make a little more money. They're almost always
in college athletics going to walk right down that path,

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whether it's good for the big picture or not.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Gary Parrishornis, Gary do Youson. This is something that I've
never quite understood. Even we talk about in the NFL
a little bit too, because as an NFL city, when
they start doing stuff like, well, we're gonna play a
Wednesday night opener with the Seahawks and defending Super Bowl champions,
and we're gonna have a Tuesday game or of Thursday
and Fridays and Saturdays and gonna go head to head
and all these things. And I bring that up because

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I think that sometimes the people in charge are detached
from why their particular sport or in this case, why
this tournament is popular. And I'll explain by saying this.
In the NFL, it's about two things. Gambling, which is
then tied to the second thing, and that's the one
hundred million people that play fantasy football that are invested.

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It's interactive. The NFL is a very interactive I think
you'd agree with me sport for fans. Anybody can be
involved with the NFL. Even if your state doesn't have
sports raging. You're probably playing with your buddies in a
fantasy league, or at least the majority of people are.
It's interactive, make it easy. That brings me to, of course,
march madness. Close to maybe even more than forty million

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brackets were filled out last season. We have three and
fifty million people in this country. You do the math.
That's a pretty large, significant number. That's one of the
biggest reasons I believe march mans is kind of a
catch all. It's big for everybody you're watching the second
and third weekends because you might make twenty bucks or
maybe a lot more. Do they not realize that this
kind of screws stuff like that up.

Speaker 4 (01:30:25):
I think they realize it, but not enough to where
it prevents them from actually doing it. So think of
it as perhaps as a poor analogy. But you know,
they have read the warning label on the packet on
the pack of cigarettes. They know what this could potentially do,
but they're still going to open the pack of cigarettes
and you know, pull their liner out. I don't think

(01:30:48):
you can overstate the point you just made like my
young boys do not watch college basketball every day of
the year, but there's something about they got to print
out bracket or fill out a bracket online to see
if they could beat Dad. And by the time they
flew into Indianapolis for the Final four, they knew pretty

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much everything you needed to know as a basketball fan
about Arizona and about Yukon, and they knew about Brayla Mullins,
and they'd watched the shot that bracket gave them a
reason to care.

Speaker 7 (01:31:21):
And then they started carring.

Speaker 4 (01:31:23):
And when I was a child, when you were a child,
or at least let's just take it back to the
mid eighties. It was sixty fourteenths and it fits so
perfectly in the newspaper when it came out on Monday morning,
and then everybody would cut it out and you'd fill
it out or you'd print it out and it fit
on a perfect piece of paper. And I want to
be clear, I'm not trying to sit here and sound
like I'm ninety seven thousand years old. I understand nobody's

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gonna print stuff out. I have a twenty three year
old son. He doesn't even understand the concept of printing
something out, and holding it and putting pen to paper.
But my larger point is that on Selection Sunday, we
used to have a show and if you were a
Washington fan, they said this, this is Washington, this is
where they're seated, this is where they're playing, this is
who they'll play, this is when it's going to be,

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and you could wrap your head around the entire thing immediately.
If we win, this is who we play. If we
win that one, we could play here, we will have
to travel there. It was all right in front of
you from the jump. And now more fan bases than
ever are going to watch the selection show and they
will immediately say, Okay, I guess.

Speaker 7 (01:32:26):
We're in, But where are we play it?

Speaker 4 (01:32:29):
Who are we playing? When will we find out? It
just delays the understanding of everything. It's complicated at least
for you know, people who don't follow it closely, and
it'll delay people, you know, filling out brackets in a
way that will prevent people from even caring enough to
fill out brackets. And if we can both agree that

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part of the popularity of the tournament is the bracket
that's attached to it. When you break, when you make
the bracket more complicated, delay, the time with which you
have to fill it out.

Speaker 7 (01:33:02):
It just it takes something away.

Speaker 4 (01:33:04):
Maybe big picture it won't be that big of a deal.
But I tend to think you're closer to right than wrong.
I think it matters to what degree we'll see down
the line, But I think it matters.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
I think it matters a lot. I mean, I just
it just matter. And like you said, then the other
part that comes into play is, you know, like how
does it work? And you kind of mentioned it like
the WCC probably wasn't pushing it for it, but maybe
the SEC, the Big ten. Certainly the SEC was pushing
Ford along the way. We kind of looked back to
last season, you know, Indiana, Auburn, col Virginia Pro, Virginia Tech.

(01:33:33):
Rather probably the ones that are the first four out,
so they would be in. Who else would be in
this year if it would have been this year, Gary,
And does that include anybody not from a power for
a conference?

Speaker 4 (01:33:45):
Yeah, it would, but the numbers are going to skew
toward the power conferences. So the big conversation we had
all last February March about Auburn should they be in
or not? They would be safely in now despite having
sixteen losses. An Oklahoma team that I think lost like
seven of eight down the stretch would have been in
the field. An Indiana team that lost twice as many

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games as it's one, you know, in the final few
weeks of the season would have been safely.

Speaker 7 (01:34:11):
In the field.

Speaker 4 (01:34:11):
And so we will wrap our heads around what it
means to be an NCUBA tournament team moving forward and
adjust accordingly. But you will have to do that like
what you think of as a quote unquote, because that's
the way people talk. You know, you go on a
radio station and they say, hey, so do you think
you know Danny Sprinkle's got an NCAA tournament team. Well,

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now you have to recalibrate in your head what an
NCAA tournament team looks like, because if you ask that
question about Auburn last year, the answer is no. But
if you just move it to seventy six, put more
tables in the restaurant, you got more room for people
to sit down, well, then the answers now yes. And
so the problem with all of this is that I
hear people sometimes say things like, if you're gonna expand

(01:34:54):
to seventy six, I don't like it. But if you
would just do it this way, then it would be
better than that way. But the problem, of course, is
that the people structuring this are coming from the power conferences.
They're the folks that have the power. So I'll hear
things sometimes like Okay, you can go to seventy six,
but if you're going to do that, you have to

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make it where every automatic qualifier from every conference in
America they at least get slotted into the main bracket
so they don't have to play in on a Tuesday
or Wednesday. I agree, that would be a tournament that
I'm more interested in. If you automatically qualify, you're in
the sixty fourteen bracket, and the at largest the last
at largest are fighting it on Tuesday and Wednesday to

(01:35:38):
get into the main bracket. The problem, of course, is
circle back to who is making the decisions, the power conferences.
They do not want the thirty first conference champion slotted
straight into the Thursday Friday or the twenty ninth conference
champion slot it straight into Thursday Friday. So there's a

(01:35:58):
better way to do it, But you have to always
remember the people putting it together don't want it that way.
They want as many Power Conference schools more than ever
playing on Thursday Friday in the NCAA tournament. And this
is the way they're going to get it. Gary, I'm
wondering too. Like one of the cool things.

Speaker 1 (01:36:15):
We were watching the you know, the selection show and
here they come, and you know, you got your guys
on CBS Sports and all, okay, let's go to the
West Region and here it is and they unveil all
those things, and you have all the cameras all across
the country now and they're they're showing to Idaho last
year and yeah, they got they got their boat raced
in the in their first round. But Idaho idn't been
the tournament, you know, in decades. And they show these

(01:36:36):
guys going nuts. They already knew they were in, but
they show them going nuts. Or even a school for
maybe a Power five Conference school or Power four whatever
we call these things. Now, if you see one of
those schools and they're in for the first time, Washington
hasn't been in in over a decade. And Sprinkle's team
gets in next year, but they're going to be playing
on Tuesday or Wednesday. Are they still celebrating? I mean,
I guess We'll have to wait and see. But how

(01:36:58):
do you think the feel is? Like it's much different
playing in Tuesday Wednesday as opposed to when we really
throw it up at nine am on Thursday, Thursday morning.

Speaker 7 (01:37:08):
That's exactly right. For most people.

Speaker 4 (01:37:11):
The INCAA Tournament is going to start the same time
it's ever started, nine o'clock for you, eleven o'clock for me,
twelve on the East Coast. Everything that happens before that
is just stuff that happened before that. But that's really
when we lock in and say here, it is my
favorite two days.

Speaker 7 (01:37:26):
Of the season.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
So yeah, I mean, I think how will people feel,
I think will come down largely to what are the
expectations placed upon them when.

Speaker 7 (01:37:36):
The season began.

Speaker 4 (01:37:37):
In other words, if Danny's if the Big Ten preseason
poll comes out and Washington is picked fourteenth, but then
suddenly Washington is in a position to be the eleventh
team out of the Big Ten playing on Tuesday in Dayton,
well then I think you're probably excited about that because
you have overachieved relative to expectations and gotten back in

(01:37:59):
the NBA Tournament as a program for the first time
in a long time.

Speaker 7 (01:38:02):
But for every one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:38:05):
There's gonna be two of these, and excuse my math,
that's off the top of my head, but you'll.

Speaker 1 (01:38:09):
Get the point.

Speaker 4 (01:38:09):
Yeah, there's gonna be two of these. You are a
fan of a Power Conference school. They have invested twelve million,
seventeen million, twenty one million dollars in their basketball team.
They were picked to finish second in the SEC or
second in the Big Ten, and now they're tenth in
the Big Ten, or tenth in the SEC, thirteenth in
the SEC, or twelfth in the Big Ten. Now they're

(01:38:31):
in what amounts to the first four in Dayton. That
team is quote in the Incuba Tournament. But that team's
fan base wants to fire its coach.

Speaker 7 (01:38:39):
So that's a new one. We haven't really done that before.

Speaker 4 (01:38:42):
Typically, if you are in the intead of LA Tournament,
almost regardless of where you coach, that is considered like
you're doing a good enough job. But now you will
see coaches make the instead of LA Tournament but get
fired immediately after coaching in it. Because just you know,
this used to be a pass feil line for some programs.
We hear it all all the time, coaching carousel on
the hot seat gonna have to make the incident of

(01:39:03):
a tournament to keep his job. That will not be
good enough that some programs now just making the instead
of a tournament. It will will in a different year
that would have been considered an N year. And fans
are going to be smart enough. Athletic directors, I hope,
are going to be smart enough to know that, you know,
we're not gonna start calling something.

Speaker 7 (01:39:22):
An A season if it's really a B season.

Speaker 4 (01:39:24):
Then we're not gonna call something a D season if
it's really an F I think the feelings will come
down to where the expectations were when they started the season.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
You got to recalibrate everything I was just looking at.
For example, Washington versus Boise State had to head like
and just in terms of the resume, right, Washington it
was six and eleven in Quad one and Quad two games.
Boise State was nine and eight in Quad one and
two games. They were separated by five points in the
net rankings. Washington's gonna still get in over Boise State, right.

Speaker 4 (01:39:54):
Probably, And that's because you know the numbers. I don't
want to say they're rigged, they are certainly slanted in
a certain direction. And this is something you hear from
I hear at least from N major in small conference
coaches all the time, like they use this algorithm to
kill us.

Speaker 7 (01:40:12):
But they won't tell us what's in it. We don't
know how to we don't know how to play along.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
And but what we do know is it is almost
better to lose to a bunch of really good teams
in the SEC than it is to beat a bunch
of really good teams outside of the power structure.

Speaker 7 (01:40:29):
That's what the computers spit out more often than not.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
And then they we as a committee, they use those
numbers to keep the Boise states out. So you will
hear every once in a while somebody say something like
this is better for everybody because the more seats you
have at the table, the more you know places there
are for people to sit down. And this is going
to sure help at Auburn or a you know, mediocre

(01:40:56):
Big ten team get into the ncublay Tournament, but it's
also going to help a second team from a mid
major conference make it. And that's creating lifelong memories for
people who otherwise wouldn't have them. Sure, I guess technically
is that that is true, But that is not the motivation.
The motivation is to get more SEC and Big ten
teams into the NCAA tournament period. Everything beyond that is

(01:41:19):
just stuff that is a byproduct of that singular motivation.

Speaker 1 (01:41:24):
Great stuff, man, Love talking to you. It's going to
be a hot topic all through next year, and I
guess it'll make our conversations next season when we have
you back on Cursey. You know why, brewing even more
compelling than ever before. And that's hard to do, so
that part I'll enjoy. In the meantime, maybe you can
get a little bit of downtime before the NBA Draft
and all that down there in Memphis and say hi
to our buy our guys Jalen Wells and Centric Coward

(01:41:45):
down there for us.

Speaker 7 (01:41:46):
All right, Well, if you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:47):
Got any more Cougars to send us, let us know, not.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
This year, but maybe down the road.

Speaker 7 (01:41:53):
I looked at the rock, this is not the year.

Speaker 1 (01:41:54):
This is not the year. Take the seiginbough kid, he's
all right from Washington, and said, thanks, Gerry, I appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:41:59):
Ques.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
There you go, that's Gary Paris joining us. We had
him on all during the basketball season. Love having them on.
All right, we got another schedule release update, we'll give
you plus check the taxt next.

Speaker 10 (01:42:12):
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Speaker 12 (01:42:28):
Hey, Ian, Seattle sports guy. Here was an update on
your Seattle sports.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
The Seattle Mariners will be pulling all.

Speaker 12 (01:42:35):
Commercials and related to how Bali has in the commercials,
he gets one hit, which is one more than the
real cow has in his last thirty six plate appearances. Also,
Dan Wilson was seen studying the Chicago White Sox bunting
and hit people over as he was unaware what small
ball was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:53):
He thought that was related to cup size. I'll check
in later.

Speaker 11 (01:42:59):
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(01:43:21):
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Speaker 7 (01:43:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:43:28):
That was really top Oh so good.

Speaker 8 (01:43:29):
I'm gonna tell you right now if Clifford, I gotta
find that episode because Clifford with Sarah Spain.

Speaker 3 (01:43:36):
Would like a cringe. Watch cringe listen.

Speaker 8 (01:43:39):
Yeah, it'd be so bad, it'd be good. She'd be like,
who are you again? On Clifford, Who are you again?

Speaker 7 (01:43:46):
Who are you?

Speaker 1 (01:43:47):
I'm Sarah. I don't like guys.

Speaker 3 (01:43:51):
I hate Oh man, oh boy, for those were top
of Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
You got to give me too more?

Speaker 13 (01:44:00):
All right, both Preda's bat he got on base, so
I don't know how he's a bat that you need Cal.
Look at all the games they won last year with
Cal because he's hit a long ball or just got
a knock into the outfield. So many teams are beating

(01:44:20):
the Mariners with small ball. We're relying too much on
the lawn. We gotta gotta change it up. Karl's gotta go.

Speaker 1 (01:44:30):
Right out of time one more. I'm sure he's wasn't
saying Cal's gotta go right yeah.

Speaker 14 (01:44:36):
Ian forness.

Speaker 7 (01:44:38):
My question to you is are they Everybody.

Speaker 14 (01:44:41):
Keeps on saying that the Mariners are going to win
the division. But really are they?

Speaker 7 (01:44:45):
I don't know.

Speaker 14 (01:44:47):
They haven't been in the first place the whole season
so far, as far as I recall, Maybe they have,
but they've been trailing Oakland and Texas since day one.
I'm really ask yourself, are they really going to win
the division? I guess we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:45:05):
I have a question for you on that one. Yeah,
what does that sound like? No idea to me?

Speaker 6 (01:45:10):
It sounds like a regular guest on SOFTI Showbill Krueger.
Oh wow, same voice, reflections too high?

Speaker 1 (01:45:18):
Hasay been since they actually played? The game was second,
and that was they were in second five games in
and their second right now, they were second last week
after the Atlanta series, tied for second game a game back.
But I say, yes, I'll listen. The reason is is

(01:45:39):
just to look at the rest of the division, right Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:45:42):
And also this is the roller croaster of baseball. I mean,
you know, one bad week and all of a sudden
we're well.

Speaker 1 (01:45:47):
But they've been I get what he's saying. Though they
have it in the first place?

Speaker 13 (01:45:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Yeah, but are they Would you bet against them with
that division? I wouldn't now know. Did they play small
ball one? Did they bunt down four? Enoughing this weekend. Yeah, okay,
I won't get you on that now, but it's a
whole another thing. We had a lot of people out.
We've talked about soap operas earlier because playing the part
of Nathan Bishop day was Anderson by the way to
US six.

Speaker 6 (01:46:11):
I don't know if I enjoyed the replacement actor playing
one of the main roles in the Mollywop episode today
throws me off as the Molliwop turns.

Speaker 10 (01:46:16):
It does.

Speaker 3 (01:46:19):
Now you've got me thinking about new production.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
A lot of people, there are a lot of people
watching it. G's still on. Uh Steve A. Smiths on
a daytime soap. I think he did do a cameo
or something.

Speaker 3 (01:46:29):
Yeah, it was like a yeah, I remember one.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Young and Wrestlers used to come on right after Prices
Right always remember when I would stay home from school?

Speaker 7 (01:46:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Absolutely, yes, see I That's what I was saying earlier.
I was a Price is Right person?

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
Uh Fortune five.

Speaker 6 (01:46:40):
That guy sounded like he was calling from a speedway
or something, maybe waiting for Christin Michael.

Speaker 1 (01:46:44):
He might be up scattered, he might be ab sketches
speedway right now, man, let's see, asked Sophie was his
favorite soap opera is dramatic because he is. We all
know he grew up watching them. I don't know if
he would because it would it would take He's just sold,
he's already ready to bubble over. And there's always and
there's always a cliffhanger at the end of everything. God, Yeah,

(01:47:06):
they keep you. Yeah, let's see aos trash or someone
sitting in Houston right now, they're saying the same thing,
including the marriage, because marriage are completely under underachieving at
this point.

Speaker 6 (01:47:14):
But do Houston fans really think they think they were
gonna win its?

Speaker 3 (01:47:20):
No, this is like a bone to fight, no season
for them?

Speaker 7 (01:47:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Two five three?

Speaker 6 (01:47:25):
Why is Andre's wearing a Corona shirt at work? Must
be five o'clock somewhere.

Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Is this it a socker?

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
Juicy?

Speaker 3 (01:47:30):
Oh, it's just I just thought it was a sponsor.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
I forget. We're on YouTube? Are we on YouTube?

Speaker 11 (01:47:36):
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a word for the hour? I do.

Speaker 10 (01:47:41):
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Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
Exactly what's this team really good at? Says the two
five to three.

Speaker 6 (01:47:57):
I think they have a good starring rotation, nice one
yeap pitcher. I think they have a good bullpen, especially
when they're healthy. Yep, especially when they're healthy. I think
the majority of the line, like what guys in the
lineup are underachieving based off of what you would expect
one in my eyes, cal cal Yeah, I think Julio
has been about as good as we expect him to be. Uh,

(01:48:18):
Brandon Donovan's been better than advertised. Maybe the health thing
is a little off. I think JP Crawford's bad as
fine talked about Canzone, Rayley, Paul Young.

Speaker 1 (01:48:29):
Like that's yeah, John says, I just don't want to
hear Crawford complain when they missed the playoffs by game
because we kept Casteel in his seventy r in the rotation,
key to lose all his starts in April and may
these games matter?

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
They do?

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
They do, they do, But I there is a track
record there, you know what. I'll go back to what
Io was saying last week. Yeah, the velocity is still there.
And then Chris pointed out a really good. Chris had
a grea point today. It's like he's he's two pitches
away and each his last two starts from having the
last two starts having completely different results, right, bad defense
behind him would have And look it's still not good enough. Right,

(01:49:02):
but you have to look at the trend.

Speaker 6 (01:49:04):
Right, he was really bad like earlier this season, the
last two starts have looked a lot better. I hope
he can get out of it. There's and what I
there's no guarantee that Bryce Miller is gonna come and
be better. He was worse than Castio is now all
of last year during the regular season.

Speaker 1 (01:49:18):
There are one hundred and twenty one games left. Calm down,
people says the four, two, five we are.

Speaker 6 (01:49:22):
And then right below that, it's early. It's early till
it's not. Wow, listen, man, it's just it's it's baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:49:33):
It's baseball. But it's also it's also why it is
I know, like soft till coming in. I'm not gonna
watch the game until August. But he's watching every night
and he's talking about it. But but these as the
text for as John pointed out, if they missed the
playoffs by game or they don't get home field advantage
by a game, and they're you know, it does matter.
We understand that. Yeah, it's just this is if you're

(01:49:54):
going to have a year like this with Cal and
if you're his team gonna scuffle around and go straight
games scoring one run against the Chicago White Sox, this
is the year to have it in that division.

Speaker 7 (01:50:05):
It just it.

Speaker 1 (01:50:05):
Now, I guess the one thing that could scare you.
We've talked about this before. What if the A's decided
to go out and add to their pitching, So that
would be that would be the one thing I'm scared of, yes, right,
because because they can hit. Yeah, they can hit.

Speaker 6 (01:50:17):
They can hit, So if they added a pitcher or two,
they would need a few before I would really get scared.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
But yeah, but look where they're at right now. You
add one, do they always start hot?

Speaker 4 (01:50:27):
Though?

Speaker 10 (01:50:28):
They do?

Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
They did that.

Speaker 6 (01:50:30):
We talked about little league ballparks. That is a little
league ballpark?

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
Four two five? What's the newspaper? I don't know. It's
a good question, great question. I was born in nineteen
ninety seven. Have you ever picked up and read a
hard copy of the newspaper?

Speaker 6 (01:50:44):
I did, probably, like when I was in middle or
high school. Ok, that's by the last time middle school
actually probably.

Speaker 1 (01:50:51):
We do have a schedule update from the National Football League.
I dare play. We have one of the three Thursday
Thanksgiving matchups Dallas always plays on Thursday. They gonna take
on Saquon Barkley and the Philadelphia Eagles in Okay, in

(01:51:15):
on that barring injuries. That's a good mess. That's a
good Thanksgiving Day one thirty Pacific time game. Like great, great,
oh man, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:51:26):
Like while you're kind of biding your time, you got
your hopefully you ate your prep meal to like expand
the stomach a little bit, but not so you're getting
super hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:51:35):
Yeah, that's a that's a plan around what time you're
really eating type of day, don't you think.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
Yeah, And do you guys eat in front of the
TV when you're.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
When you were with us last year, Yeah, we had
the whole conversation at one time. Yeah, you know what
I was just wondering, you know, because people we had
we had kind of the late game, we had like
multiple places to eat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
Yes, oh yeah, there were multiple people there. There were
a lot of people, And no, I enjoyed that.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Yeah, I think it's and I think we had I
think the game the late game last year for some
reason feelt like it wasn't good. I think it sucked
if I remember it correctly, right, isn't that? Isn't that
what it was? The early games are really good if
I remember, well, Detroit, so it's Detroit Dallas, and then
the third game is always kind of a crap shoot. Right, Yes,
there's a lot of talk that Seattle's going to play

(01:52:21):
a Christmas Day game this year.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
Oh was the Bengals Ravens was the late game?

Speaker 1 (01:52:25):
Oh yeah, no Burrow, no Burrow. Yeah yeah, yeah, and
the Ravens were a non playoff team they sucked last year. Yeah,
that might have been one of the great days that
my guy Lamar had like no points against the team.
He should scored one hundred against well two five three.
I like this text.

Speaker 6 (01:52:43):
I'm not worried, but the same way, it's early for
the MS. It's too early to declare this division horrible.
Two years ago, Houston sucked out of the gate and
won like ninety five games point taken.

Speaker 1 (01:52:53):
Yeah, I agree that.

Speaker 6 (01:52:54):
What Ian was just saying about trade that you know,
if the A's will go out and make a couple
of trades for some pitching that could that could be
a team that's scary.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
All right, we're good, We're good. Stopts next, all right,
thanksgiving da number one in the book.

Speaker 14 (01:53:21):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
We got the Philadelphi Eagles, the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, do
you care at all who the Seahawks playing that first game?
Not really? I was on with Sylvia and Eggs Chris Egan.
Okay this morning.

Speaker 8 (01:53:33):
All right, it must have been a phenomenal weekend for
sports because those guys begin their show today by talking
about female flying monkeys and Chris's sounder train ride. Okay,
that's what happens when you lose two out of three
to the White Sox. That's exactly that's what happens. That's
what losing does to people's brains in this town. I
don't really care to be honest with you. I think
that night is just gonna be all about the Hawks anyway.

(01:53:56):
You know, I'm going there for one thing, to see
the banner come down with actually is right above me,
by the way, I have like the worst view in
the entire place to see that thing. But that that
night is all about, you know, give us like, who
are the possibilities. Now it's the Bears, the Patriots, the
Chargers in Arizona, right right? Well, I said the Cardinals,

(01:54:17):
that's fine. You know, I would just win the game.
I would see Yeah. But Arizona, who knows? They might
be on the come. But if they I guess, out
of those four teams Bears, Patriots, Chargers, Arizona, which one
is most likely to get destroyed by the Hawks in
Week one?

Speaker 1 (01:54:33):
Arizona?

Speaker 8 (01:54:34):
You think it's Arizona. Yeah, all right, then fine, there
is Arizona. Plus there's all this talk about Arizona being
good and they're on the come and they might have
a turner on type of ear. How about we just
end all their hopes in week one?

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
How about this?

Speaker 7 (01:54:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:54:46):
Love comes in?

Speaker 8 (01:54:47):
Right, Jadarian Price is there, plays them and Price runs
for one point fifty phenomenal and Love against that's the defense. Yeah,
because the NFL is not fun, right, Like, he's got
to go back. I want to tap out because to me,
it's I'm the same way as you. I hear all
these people going, I don't want to be Arizon. I
don't want to be a great matchup. I'm thinking, No,
that's the coronation. Yeah, that should be a celebration for

(01:55:08):
the Seahawks that day. I'd like to see ja Darien
Price run over to Mike Lafleur, who's the new coach
of the Cardinals, and just seeing it drafted the run
running back you bum them and they just take off whatever. Yeah,
I don't know, man, I'm kind of with you. I
don't really care who they play in the in week
number one, but I'm fired up for Thursday at five o'clock.
I don't know what it is, man, Thursday at five
always gets me going. I mean, it doesn't take much

(01:55:30):
at my age. I know that Thursday at five, we
know the opponents. We just don't know the times or
the week. Are we already see what's happening. All the
stuff's kind of leaking out.

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
But I'm gonna do better this year, are you not?

Speaker 5 (01:55:42):
Really?

Speaker 1 (01:55:42):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
No, you're not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
I will.

Speaker 8 (01:55:45):
I'll say that I'll do better, and then I'll get
a note from somebody. Hey, here's who the opener is
against her, Hey, who's here's what they're playing on you know,
week number three or week number foe four.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
I believe you and I got the note at the
same time last year. Yeah, and I'm sledding. I'm gonna
look it up right now because I'm pretty sure I
know who I got it from. Right in fact, I know. Okay,
let's see, all right, it's turning into the NFL draft. Yeah,
it really is where we know everything before it happens.
Two forty one pmh is when we got it. Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 8 (01:56:15):
I there will be some leakage between now and then.
There always is a little bit of leakage. It happens
in our range. And it really does it really really.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
It just does we start with the at our age, doc, please, well.

Speaker 1 (01:56:25):
Why we're old.

Speaker 8 (01:56:26):
Yes, we talk about stuff happens. It is amazing the
conversations that we have at our age. Yeah, where we
were oh my god, dude, Yeah, talking about gout and
your back pain and this hurts that many times you
hit the can before a golf round whatever, go on breakfast,
you got to give yourself an extra twenty minutes to
get down to the restroom before you tee off.

Speaker 1 (01:56:46):
And I think what Softie says, true, this is what
happens when you lose two to three to the white sauce.
You talk about anything besides listen to you.

Speaker 8 (01:56:52):
There's nothing worse than being stuck on the third tea
box and have to go number two.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Nothing. It's terrible, terrible because the bat's room is on
number five. Right, what do you do? We got to
play number four? Okay, right, and then just scid out
to the restroom.

Speaker 3 (01:57:06):
Well, at your age, you would know where that is.

Speaker 8 (01:57:08):
I know exactly where it is. Are you kidding me?
Does your pet it goes well, it goes faster. I'm
not beyond using the women's restroom either, to be totally honest. Well,
we're in a city there, This isn't camp. We don't
do things like that down there. Oh you don't, No, no, no,
I am not beyond using the women's restroom.

Speaker 7 (01:57:28):
By the way.

Speaker 8 (01:57:29):
Room Well, I have a theory on that whole thing. Anyway,
I think we all should just be using just generic,
you know bathrooms.

Speaker 2 (01:57:35):
With It's really convenient at the airport. But I just
scared men when they see me walk out of one
of them. Yeah, they walked in the wrong place.

Speaker 1 (01:57:42):
You got do you do? You find it still unnerving though,
the that a man walks in. No, just the unisex bathrooms.
I just think we just got to go unisex. I
mean it works on planes. I was just gonna say
that was a difference. Good point.

Speaker 8 (01:57:56):
Right, Well, if I saw you walking out of an
airplane bathroom, you're not gonna freak out.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
I'd probably bring a can of for breeze with me.
But you know whatever. So you say, that's how they
do things, that's how they do that's how they do
things in can't that's right. So it's right, we're down
in a breeze. Definitely, we're down.

Speaker 8 (01:58:14):
We're down at a restaurant and eat them claww oh,
definitely down there a couple months ago.

Speaker 1 (01:58:19):
And yeah, you know, this place had separate bathroom and
there's a guy in the guy's bathroom forever like forever,
and a lady comes out and she says, it's twenty
twenties five. It doesn't matter, just go in here, and
I go, you're sure. She's like yes, absolutely, So I
go in there. Yeah real quick, real quick. Come back
out and there's this lady standing there and she gave
me a look and she says, really, yeah, the women's restroom.

(01:58:41):
I said, it's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 8 (01:58:45):
Eat them claw has the same rules as Kent and
try to use your pronoun it's not gonna go well, buddy, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:58:55):
Oh god, it's so good. All right?

Speaker 8 (01:58:56):
Anyway, Yeah, so I lost three. We're talking about no
idea how schedule. That's schedule comes out on Thursdays. So
I'm fired up for that.

Speaker 10 (01:59:06):
You know.

Speaker 8 (01:59:06):
I kind of kind of looked for well, used to
do this more on the old pac twelve days a
little Husky Seahawk road trip Combo. Huskies have USC at
USC I think in week five if I'm not mistaken,
early October.

Speaker 1 (01:59:18):
So that'd be a nice weekend.

Speaker 8 (01:59:20):
Anybody anything, nobody of note where they could there could
be a road trip.

Speaker 1 (01:59:25):
I don't think because the Bears come here, we're not
going out. I saw you in I remember you were
in Michigan when I was there a few years.

Speaker 8 (01:59:30):
Yeah, a Lion from Michigan. We went to the Lion
Seahawk game. That was an overtime game game. That's the
game Michigan State we were at yet and then stuck
around to Ford Field. That's the game where Greg Lewis
fell asleep in the stands during the game, which.

Speaker 1 (01:59:42):
Is really hard to do.

Speaker 8 (01:59:43):
I mean it's line Detroit, Yes, in Detroit Ford Field
during the game. Wasn't that like week one, like it
was a big game. Yeah, I don't think it was
Week one, but it was an overtime game and we won. Yeah,
I huge, but he was exhausted from the day before.
That place is as loud as That's.

Speaker 1 (02:00:01):
What I'm saying. You know what I'm trying to say,
getting old three years ago?

Speaker 8 (02:00:05):
Man, this is twenty twenty three during the National Championship
run anyway, So yeah, we got that coming up Thursday,
So great talk.

Speaker 1 (02:00:11):
What are you doing today? What's today? Monday?

Speaker 8 (02:00:13):
Today is Bill Kruder, Today is Hugh Millen. We'll do
a little fun with audio, maybe a little you make
the call. We'll talk about the NBA playoffs.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
What else do we got? Mariners?

Speaker 8 (02:00:23):
Cal Raley? Are we looking at a one hit wonder
with cal Rally? Are we looking at a Brady Anderson
with cal Raley? Are we looking at it Chris Davis
with cal Rawley? WHOA, I'm just tossing it out there,
not saying I believe it or not. Oh, I think
you are just having conversations, man, waiting something.

Speaker 1 (02:00:39):
What if like Jack Nicholson, that's as good as it gets.
Last year with well sixty one might be as good
as it gets.

Speaker 8 (02:00:47):
I'm saying for him, for him, He's never hitting sixty
home runs again. Ever, we know that he may never
hit fifty again. I trade him beyond Davis.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
Oh my god, Dave Soft and after cal Raleigh. Stay tuned,
Jesus see you for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.
This is paddle Day saying so long everyone,

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