Furness Show 5-4: Chris Crawford in for Ian, Hugh Millen, Mollywhop Monday, May the 4th

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got a jam pack show today. I'm excited that
I get to talk to you. I've been hosting on
KJR since twenty twenty three, I believe, and somehow I've
never talked to Hugh Millin, So I'm really excited to
get to talk to him about rookie camp and ask him.
I believe it's a fifteen minute segment. I might get
a question and a half off.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Yeah, like, oh, yeah, there's no pressure. Yeah, he just
is the best inn ealysis. Oh, we have so much
to say.

Speaker 1 (00:23):
I have learned so much from Hugh milling that it's
gonna be I was nervous talking to Homegren. I'll probably
be not nervous talking to you a little bit too,
just because that guy is an absolute encyclopedia. We're gonna
mollywop and we're gonna talk about this stupid flipping baseball team.
Another disappointing series. And it's more even more disappointing to

(00:45):
me because you have a five to one road trip.
I think you look pretty darn good.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
During that five and one road trip and even those
two losses to Kansas City, I thought the Mariners were
the better team. For the overwhelming majority of those games,
but they're still losses. And then yesterday you'll, yeah, STV,
you laid a giant turd in the middle of the
What did those cats have called? Again? Why did I
a litter? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Yeah, that litter put it right on the fifty one
a center field. Yeah you did, you really did.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
And that's what's so disappointing too, is like honoring Felix
ornandez On Randy Johnson day wasn't something that I really
predicted by not scoring any dang runs for a fantastic
pitching performance. Gosh, it's frustrating. And you know, Anders, you
talk about this team every day like I do. Like
how frustrating was this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
The frustrating part about it was that it seemed like,
like you said, they were kind of climbing out of
it a little bit, right, and it like they got
back to five hundred. They had a really good road trip.
The offense was kind of clicking. I think the offense
is still gonna be fine. You had two bad days
on Saturday and Sunday. The Friday was actually a good
offensive day, and then you can't close it out. That's
a whole another situation. But for me, the one part

(01:58):
about this team that does seemed fixable is the defense.
Oh and I don't know how you feel on this
about you know what stat you look at for team defense,
if it's OAA or if it's DRS. But the Mariners
are last in Major League Baseball and OAA, and I
haven't looked at the DRS stats. I know there's a
lot of individuals that are low on that one as well,

(02:20):
so I wouldn't be surprised if they're last on that
as well. So, I mean, I still think the offense
is going to turn around. I think the pitching will
eventually be fine, whether that's Castillo, you know, coming back
to what we know him to be, or if that's
you know, someone else coming up and taking that spot,
Bryce Miller, Kate Anderson will see. At the pitching I
think will be fine. It's the defense that I don't
see a way that this gets better, to be completely honest.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And you know what metric I use for that, anders As,
I used the CVC the Christopher Vincent Crawford, and my
eye test just tells me this defense sucks.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Sucks.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
It's I've never seen this bad of defense.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's really bad. It's really really bad. And you know
it's some of this was predictable, like JP Crawford has
been a declining defensive player for a long time. Brandon Donovan,
who's not even there right now learning a new position.
Basically he played some third. Josh Naylor is built like
a defensive tackle, and defensive tackles are usually not good.

(03:14):
Defensive first baseman, the left field and right fielders we
know about their issues, particularly the guy in the left field.
He did make a terrific catchit on Saturday. I want
to give him a shout out there makes up for
one of the worst base running mistakes I've seen in
a long time. Not really, but it is nice to see.
But the eye test is what tells me that this
defense is just not very good. Yeah, and I want

(03:36):
to talk about Luis Castille and we'll talk about it
later in the day too. I will say this was
an encouraging start. I agree the fourth inning was a disaster,
but it could have been a little bit avoided. Josh
Naylor throwing not to home in that situation is a
massive mistake to me. I don't know what he was
thinking trying to get the double play there while giving
up the run. There was no shot they were going

(03:57):
to get that double play. Did double play? Do it
at home? Yeah, exactly, And you know, at the very
least you got to get that, knowing how your offense is,
knowing the lineup they put out last night, saying knowing
that a small amount of runs given up was going
to be important because they weren't going to score a time,
not with the Connor Joe's and the Johnny Paridas and
those guys playing. It just wasn't going to happen. So

(04:19):
I will say I was encouraged by Julio's defense yesterday.
He made some nice plays. A ball gets hot over
his head because they have him playing in for Isaac
Collins just kicked our But the entire weekend it was
weird to see if all guys to get beat up
by its Isaac Collins, not Vinnie Pasclentino or Jock keckleonone
or Bobby Witt Junior, but instead Isaac Flipping Collins. But

(04:41):
I think outside of that fourth inning, Luis Castillo pitched
well and certainly well enough that you can take some confidence.
Now ultimately six innings of four run baseball. I don't
want to patronize the guy too much, right, like he's
he's better than this. Absolutely, But with the guys you
have coming back, and with Emerson Hancock pitching the way
he has a stud man, it's been so impressive to see.

(05:02):
That's the ultimate positive. The other positive. We were talking
about it with Greg everyone in the American League, but
the Yankees sucks and Tampa Bay is playing well too.
But let's let's hold our horses on Tampa Bay being
a real contender with that team that they have. I
I was frustrated. I will say this. I went to
the game, and man, I could spend another hour and
a half talking about how awesome baseball is and just

(05:26):
seeing all of the parents with their kids and seeing Andrews.
I can't wait for you to be able to do that, man,
I can't even I can't wait for you to have
a Uniesky betting court on your little guy going out
there and just but it's just it. It makes me
feel to steal the s and L line for clip
to see that, like people still care allowed bringing kids

(05:47):
to baseball games.

Speaker 4 (05:48):
Absolutely, I think it's one of the sporting events that
is most geared towards family.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Would you agree with that?

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Just?

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I got to high five a baby at the game.

Speaker 6 (05:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I went to the game on Saturday night, stayed for
the extras. Unfortunately didn't go our way, but yeah, I
high fived a baby. And that is it is, you know,
the iconic family sport because you know there's eighty one
of them in your hometown. Sure, and you know football

(06:18):
is rowdy because you only get eight of them in
your hometown, you know, regardless if you travel over nine.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
Yeah whatever, Yeah, semantics.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Queen over there, but sorry seman, Yeah but okay, I'll
get you a crimp.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
But yeah, No, it's just especially how busy it was.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It was Randy Johnson night when I was there, and
I was just seeing so many families experience it together
and it's just more you know, calm vibe sure than
you know, a football game and the rowdier people go
to certain areas, right you know. So it was just
really nice and I loved it. And I have friends

(07:02):
that work on fishing boats and you got to bring
them to the game. Yeah, it was awesome, and yeah,
we just you know, got to sit down and enjoy
some good baseball, exciting baseball, sure, because it came down
to that, right, But I high five.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Good baby, that's so great. That is so great. You
could put that in the Facebook profile for sure. High
fived a baby. Oh yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Oh if I wasn't married, that would be my Tinder
profile so higby.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Wow, Well I might just steal your story and put
it in mine instead.

Speaker 5 (07:32):
There we go, high five the baby.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
So text line Tacoma Dodge four nine four five one.
I want to know your level of concern. Here's the
other one I want you guys to give me. So
today is Star Wars Day. May the fourth be with
you and also with you. I want to know, and
you guys can take your time and think about this one.
What Seattle athlete reminds you of a specific Seattle character?

(07:55):
I have one already now. I was doing it while
I was doing my three and a half hour drive
up here. Fair enough, but some time I had some
time to think while I was waiting for one two
to turn into not a parking lot. But I want
to know who you Do you have anyone who immediately
comes to find anderws.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Well, besides the obvious joke being Dan Wilson's jar jar,
I haven't fully come up with a good comp yet.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Okay, okay, that gives you what we got time.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
The oh god, that did the annalys or the analogy
keeps going because it's the annoying side character that feels
like it really brings down what could be a good movie.

Speaker 5 (08:32):
Oh oh, okay, we got opinions.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
And Dan Wilson's Yeah, the annoying side character brings down
what could be a good team.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
So that was pretty good that. I like that comp
a lot. I like it a lot. So four nine
four five one let us know what you're thinking. We're
gonna talk to Humeillan about some rookie rookie a rookie
mini camp next.

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Speaker 1 (09:15):
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Not really?

Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, oh I wait, but spend one thousand dollars on
whatever you want if you would.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Him here sounds good to me. And you know what
always sounds good to me is when I'm talking football.
Well I've never talked to him about football before, but
I really like listening to him talk football. Joining us
now is Hugh Millan. Hugh, It's it's really an honor
to talk to you, man. I have learned so much
from you over these many years. I'm trying to do
it without making a sound old, but I have learned

(10:04):
an awful lot from you, and it's a real honor
to talk to you right now. I love it. That's
the goal.

Speaker 8 (10:08):
And uh, you know, I think football is a little
harder to describe than baseball, okay, fair you know well,
I mean most people in their mind's eye, if you
talk about something, you know, you know, he brought the fastball,
high end inside and then he set him up with
the slider away.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
You know.

Speaker 8 (10:24):
I mean, people aren't really confused. But you have a
there's a tendency to get confused with football. So I
usually wish I had a napkin to draw, uh for
the audience. But but that's the challenge, and that's the uh.

Speaker 5 (10:38):
We'll get that in the works here.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Yeah, close to that. Yeah, we're going to get something
going on that beautiful.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
So rookie mini camp, and I just got to ask
you right off the top, what can we take away
from a rookie mini camp.

Speaker 8 (10:52):
Well, I think it's somewhat like the beginning of training
camp with with no contact, you can't get any feel
for the physicality. The you can get a feel for, obviously,
the athleticism, the frame, how guys move. I think the
farther you are from the football, the more it looks
like real football. You know, corners and receivers playing out

(11:15):
on the perimeter. Now there's limitations on how you can
play the ball, and through collective bargaining, they've they've really
dialed down what you can infer.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
But but.

Speaker 8 (11:25):
You know, when you're when you're talking about all the
moshpit that's inside, whether it's the running back or whether
it's the interior linement, that's a little harder to discern.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Chris Crawford talking to hum ellin a lot of talk
about Jadarian Price and you know, the Mariners are Mariners.
The Seahawks make him the thirty second overall pick, and
a lot of talk about how his usage in mini camp,
A lot of pass catching reps, a lot of blocking reps.
How much of that is about timing, Hue, how much
of that is about, you know, teaching new steps for

(11:57):
those type of guys. I also wanted to ask you,
particularly about screen passes and how much of that is
something that is based on timing. How much would a
college system change in that regard, But just the overall
usage from Jadarian Price, what did you find interesting for
the mini camp.

Speaker 8 (12:13):
Well, I think that first of all, as it pertains
to his steps, there's gonna be some adjustment for him
running the wide zone at Notre Dame. I watched every
single carry that he had, and when they ran the
wide zone, it was almost always from an offset position.

(12:35):
The quarterback was in shotgun. Every single run for Price
other than one which was an inside run, but all
the outside zones were from shotgun. And with Price now
there was a couple early on in the season with
for pistol so price would be behind the quarterback. But

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if you're going stretch right, he was almost always aligned
to the left of the quarterback, so we had farther
to go to reach the aiming point, so that that
changes the timing of how that's gonna hit and UH,
and it often leads to more cutback runs where he
doesn't get to the all the way to the edge

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on a On a stretch right, he's more likely to
have to cut it back inside. So that's going to
be a part of it. And then as far as
the UH. For as far as him as a receiver,
they threw the ball to him seven times. He caught
sixth the seventh was uncatchable. I believe five were uh
were screen passes. I'll get to that in a second.

(13:38):
Two of them were just checkdowns. At no time did
they ever run an option route for him, which would
be you know, let's say you got Christian McCaffrey, it's
third and five. If you think you've got the matchup,
you'r Kyle Shanahan. Doesn't matter what time it could be.
You know, two minutes to go in the game, and
you say that's our best play. Is McCaffrey on on

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that that nickel or even that linebacker, and so I
didn't see any of that at Notre Dame. Again, it
was a checkdown where the quarterbacks instruck. Hey, look down
the field would have if you don't have anything, then
then throw it down to the checkdown near the line
of scrimmage. So we haven't seen him in a capacity
where he's featured the screen passes. Yet you know they

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had a swing screen. There's different screens. There's slow screens,
there's slip screens, there's there there. A swing screen is
where the running back looks like he's running a swing route,
so it hits a little wider. The linemen have to
hustle out there to get there a little quicker. Usually
you don't get the whole full allotment of of of

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of the alignment of the lineman rather leading. But he
caught a touchdown against Arkansas uh on on a swing
screen where he was out wide, then cut it back.
You know, did some nifty gae sayers type of open
field running for our are long in the two football founds.
They don't know what I'm talking about. But he showed
a lot of creativity and was able to house that one.

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So I think there's some potential in there for him
as a receiver. Have not seen him as again featured
in that, so that remains a question unanswered.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Chris Crawford in for Ian talking to Hugh Milling ball
security Jadarian Price a guy who fumbled I believe three times,
and two of those I believe were goal line carries.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Any concerns there, yeah, I mean he's two hundred and
three pounds, so there can be I think a slight
correlation to the strength. Now he's he looks like he's
maxing out on his upper body. I don't think he's
cheating himself on arm day and and the rest, so
I but that's certainly a factor. I mean, you want
to hold the ball high and tight and you know,

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if you're in traffic even get that second hand on it.
But but there's five points of pressure. You got your
your your chest that you're holdingto and hires better, your bicep,
your forearm, and then you've got the you know the
inside of your hand and the outside and you want
to kind of push the the the point of the

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ball in between your index and middle fingers. And so
that's the technical you know, perfect ball uh security, there's Still,
even if you have that h you're gonna have a
fumble from time to time. You know, maybe a gal
go a whole season he doesn't fumble, well, I guarantee
he's had a fumble in his past or he's got

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to fumble in his future, even with the best of
ball security.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
So there's a little bit of a leeway.

Speaker 8 (16:37):
I'm not overly concerned about it, uh, you know, but
sometimes there's just the perfect punch and the ball is
gonna come out. Hell, Derek Henry had a couple on
him last year. He's as strong as anybody uh in
the league, and he was having some ball security issues.
So you know, sometimes it's it's like baseball and being
in a slump. You know, sometimes the odds just kind

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of catch up to you, and you know, a couple
might hit within a couple of weeks, and it's just
this statistical vagaries of the position.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
But I don't think it's a big problem. Chris Crawford
and free and forness talking to Hugh Mellen, do you
believe that those are two players and by that I
mean Jadarian Price and Zach Sharboney. Do you believe those
are two players who can play in the backfield at
the same time. Do you think that's something you could see? Now,
obviously you know something that we're gonna maybe find out
a little later based on is Charboney's recovery time. But

(17:28):
do you see the potential for a little thunder lightning
type thing where both players are in the backfield at
the same time.

Speaker 8 (17:36):
I'll answer it literally, and then i'll answer it in
the in the context I think you're asking. Literally, yes,
that you can get in. Some people call it King formation,
strong eye, green eye. Basically, if you can imagine Prices
the tail back and then you've got sharbon Ay as

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the full back, and then he fakes like a dive
and then and then Price were to be immediately released
to the flat that's something that we've seen from Kubiak.
We saw that from Ryan Grubb. Hell that was in
a fourth down that particular play I remember against the

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Giants on a fourth down Gino Smith got sacked and
then I remember when Kubiak ran it because I made
a reference back to the prior year.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
So I know it.

Speaker 8 (18:31):
You know you may see it on occasion, So I
don't want to say no, because then as soon as
you show me one one snap then you know, now
I'm the liar, right, you know, so so I but
I don't think you're gonna see anything close to a
heavy diet of that whatsoever. I think if if there's

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gonna be two backs, it's gonna be Robbie Utz or whoever,
Brady Russell, whomever is the full back. And but most
of the time when you see either of them, you
know it's going to be a single back formation, and
you know, might be twelve personnel, which is two tight ends,
might be eleven personnel, might be thirteen personnel with it.

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You know, that's kind of coming in a little bit
more in vogue, which is one back and three tight ends.
But but I don't expect to see a lot of
what you're talking about, you know what, Hey, listen, maybe
maybe you know, we got a new offense coordinator, you know,
maybe there's a creative, creative bone in his body that
they'll have a bigger diet of that than I thought.

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But I don't expect much.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Chris Crawford and Free inf Neest talking to Hugh milling
So Seahawks addressed the secondary on day two. Bud Clark
out of TCU and Jillian Neil out of Arkansas. Which
one of those guys do you believe is the more
pro ready right now? And just how important are these
mini caps for two players who you know have a
chance to fill relatively immediate roles. Yeah, I definitely I

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think Bud Clark.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
I mean, he's got a lot more experiences, three time captain,
and you know, he's a higher draft pick, so you know,
as a general rule, you'd you'd say a second rounder
is more more capable of coming in playing than a
third rounder. So that's almost your default. But but just
looking at the bios and watching the tape, and you know,

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I think there's a interesting development with Bud Clark in
my mind. In the following sense, let's let's hone in
on Devin Witherspoon the year in Mike McDonald's first year.
These are the ratios, he he he, He was a
wide corner. That this is twenty twenty four. Devin Witherspoon

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was a wide corner on three hundred and ninety snaps,
but he was slot or in the box slot five
hundred and thirty one and box uh one fifty two.
I never liked radio math, but that sounds like six't
eighty three to me, So six hundred and eighty three
snaps inside, three ninety outside. Can you remember that racio six'

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eighty inside three ninety outside?

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Got it?

Speaker 8 (21:09):
So now the second year with Mike McDonald, which was
last season, now we go four hundred and sixty one.
Now he'd got hurt four and sixty one on the
outside and four hundred and nineteen on the inside. So
there had been a much heavier dose of Devin Witherspoon

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inside during Mike McDonald's and the ratio during Mike McDonald's
first season as the head coach of the Seahawks. Then
last year Mike McDonald and Essen said, hey, I want
you outside more. And that's something we were talking about
in the summer that you know, at his weight, you
know you love his his tenacity, his temperament, he flies

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his body around like everything about his approach to football
you you don't like, you love, But there's there's still
the question of his frame. And we don't want to
get him hurt because because as good as he is,
what we really don't want is to have him, you know,
wearing levies on the sideline because he's hurt, right, And

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so the the the impetus to put him more.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
To the outside.

Speaker 8 (22:21):
I think was a very uh uh, you know, sound move,
and and obviously they executed it beautifully. But but they
they also used him to great effectiveness as an inside player.
They just didn't do it as frequently. So why am
I talking about Devin Witherspoon in a question about Bud
Clark in the secondary? Bud Clark, you know, you know,
at a at one hundred and ninety pounds himself, but

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a safety running a four to four one. The second
thing out of Mike McDonald's mouth when he described Mike
uh uh Bud Clark as hey, he can play nickel.
So okay, So what does nickel mean? When when when
Devin Witherspoon went inside? First of all, your nickel is

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nick him and worry right, you know, And and Seattle
was number one in the NFL in their use of nickel.
But when when they played dime And they had a
much greater propensity as the season progress, including the a
season high thirty six snaps in the Super Bowl. Let
me see it again, thirty six snaps of dime defense

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on the Super Bowl. And that's with Witherspoon inside. So
follow me on this if you think that there's a
concern about your love Witherspoon what he brings, but but
you're worried about the injury factor. Now, can Bud Clark
be the guy that's in on the dime leave Witherspoon

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outside Because they leave Witherspoon outside on the nickel, right, Uh?
When when?

Speaker 3 (23:54):
When? When?

Speaker 8 (23:55):
When they're nickel, they have Josh jo but one corner
and they have Witherspoon on the other side. When they
go dime, they bring Witherspoon inside. Maybe I'm losing you
on that, but the point is is Bud Clark could
fill an immediate role, including being the guy that's the
that's in the slot in their dime packages. And when

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Mike McDonald says a nickel the way I'm using him,
you know he he nickel diamond's the same thing. Sure,
you're you're playing. You're playing as a an outside liner
linebacker also called an apex defender, also called an overhang defender.
You're just lining up of the slot in a too
in a too high structure, and so so that that
versatility that Clark brings as a safety is very intriguing

(24:44):
to me. Uh, based on what we've seen in the
development of of how they use their their personnel from
year one with McDonald to year two and then even
the second half of year two going into the Super
Bowl in the manner I describe.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
So, Hugh, what you were just to say describing I
was kind of obsessed with di'angelo Ponds in this draft
out of Indiana. Is that one of the reasons why
Ponds may not have been a great fit because of
his similar size to a Devin Witherspoon. Why you're more
targeting someone like a Julia Neil who has a little
bit of that bigger size. Do they become sort of

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too much similarity between Witherspoon and Ponds. I'm not sure
how much you got to study Ponds, but.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Yeah, Ponds is really small, you know. I mean, he's
a great feisty player, and he actually was more of
an outside player, right and and so I I think
that you know, had had they Uh there's a point
where you go, Okay, how low is too low?

Speaker 3 (25:43):
Right?

Speaker 8 (25:44):
You know, it's like quarterback height. Sure, you know you
know how low? How low is too low? And I
think for Ponds, I I just think he might have
been too small. You know, I'm I'm somebody will try
and play him in the nickels.

Speaker 3 (25:57):
But but that.

Speaker 8 (25:59):
That that only implies if you're going to put Ponds
in his nickel. That's against certain offensive structures, you know,
like you can't play if an offense is trying to
play hardball and get get into some heavy personnels, you
don't want Ponds in there mixing up. I wouldn't think,
but but yeah, I think that there would have been
some redundancy.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Redundancy was the word I was trying to use. Yes,
and that's that's why you were so much smarter than
I am. But no, it's uh. I was just a
player that I was fat. Yeah, I was a player.
I was fascinated by one more for you, Hugh. I
wanted to ask you about Emmanuel Henderson just because, especially
with rookie camp, a lot of talk about how this
guy was just a special team stalwart at Kansas in Kansas,

(26:41):
I almost said Kansas City for the Jayhawks. How much
can you work on special teams in mini rookie camp?
How much are you looking at how how he's going
to help you, like on the outside in those regards,
potentially as a returner as well, or is it just
more about getting those receiver reps during rookie camp.

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Well, I think you can definitely get a look at
a guy running down as a gunner, sure, uh, and
that's one of his his skill sets him into his
release on the line. His strength is is uh, his instincts.
I think you you can get a good look at that.
As a returner, you never really know how a guy
is going to to respond when he's gonna get hit.

(27:21):
I would say that's that's particularly true for kickoff returns.
I think you glean a little bit more from a
pump returner in non contact situation, right because punt returning,
you're you know, you're, you're you're, you're starting from a
standing start. You generally got to have that lateral quickness
and then and then you find your scene and so

(27:41):
that the traits that you need to see in a
pump returner are more evident in non contact situations. The
traits you want to see from a kickoff returner. You
want you want a guy to just grab it and blast,
you know, and and and have that willingness to to
uh get his ass in the brier patch at speed
and be able to make uh, you know, cuts at

(28:03):
full speed and and you'll see when when they're actually hitting,
you know, a guy might be a little bit more
tepid and and you know you can kind of glean
that from from non contact drills. But uh yeah, the
guy's you know, he's reputed to be one of the
the you know, like like he's the Heisman Trophy winner
of special team, right, you know, so we're gonna have

(28:25):
fun watching him in uh in in preseason and no
doubt in the regular season. If he's that acclaimed, then
I think there's a spot for him. I mean, you
you lose Derek Young, right, and you know Young was
you know, a big, you know, rocked up wide receiver
that they could run and and had that temperament and

(28:48):
had the skill set and and so I think that
that you know that that he's your guy to replace
Drek Young.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
You you are the absolute best. And I hope I
get to do this again with you sometimes.

Speaker 8 (29:00):
Oh I love it, and I love your your baseball stuff.
Keep up the great work and hammered down. Always good
to be with you. Thanks for calling.

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Speaker 1 (30:03):
Chris Crawford in for Ian forness, let's talk some hockey
Anders because yesterday was fun. It was fun because we
got One of my favorite things about hockey is you
can get a mortgage board of different types of games.
There are just so many different ways that you can play,
so many different scores. You see a lot of the
three two, but the three to two sometimes look different

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than some of the three twos do. Every once in
a while you get the one nothing or the two
to one, which is what we got in a game seven.
And then sometimes you get games like Game one, and
that was what happened between the Minnesota Wild and the
Colorado i Avalanche last night. A nine to six. I'll
say six nine, so I can say nice, nice score
between those two teams. Hockey's freaking awesome. Yeah, and it

(30:48):
was so fun watching both. Now I had to watch
them on replay because of the fact that I was
driving home for the Mariner game, but I was so
glad I did because I got to fast forward through
commercials and just watch some really good hockey.

Speaker 4 (31:00):
Now, did you know the score?

Speaker 1 (31:02):
I knew the score of So here's the nice thing.
I knew that it was going to overtime between Montreal
and Tampa Bay. You just didn't know how it got
I just didn't know how it got there, and I
didn't know what happened after, Okay, so it was kind
of great, Like I knew that we were getting there. Yeah,
I'll tell you this. They were better in both Game
sevens in the NBA last night.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Oof.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
Goof those stunk. Yeah, but man, that was awesome hockey.
And then a nine to six game between I think
probably the two best teams in hockey, I think the
Avalanche and Wilder. You could argue that the Stars are
had a better season than the whild Technically they did
by a regular season result, but these are teams with

(31:42):
star players with goalies who have the tendency to maybe
allow a few go through as well, especially in the postseason.
I won't be shocked. I don't I'm not predicting fifteen
goals again, but I won't be shocked if we get
another high goal game.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
No, not at all.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
And I think this series going seven too, because Minnesota,
even though they lost the game nine to six, they
had the lead at one point it was five to four, yeah,
and then they tied up as sixty six or something
like that, and then Colorado scores three straight goals. One
of them wasn't empty net or whatever. I was surprised
they didn't pull Yes for Walstat me too. I'm also
surprised in general that Yes for Walstat's been their starter

(32:16):
because Philip Gustafson's kind of a more you know, experienced
goalie is top level goalie at that Uh. They have
a similar situation in terms of goal as the Crack
and where they have two guys that they feel really
confident in. Sure, but they're going with a young guy. Uh,
and he was not very good last night. I mean,
in Colorado, you're you're bound to give up some goals
against Nathan McKinnon, Cale mccarr, Gabriel and skog Archiy Lekinen

(32:41):
yea and Martin his that's just that team's just so
dangod Nozam Kadri now too.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah yeah. And you know they got Nicholas Wah for
a song as well. It's just been a you love
anything that? Oh yeah yeah did who gave them an?
The Toronto maple leafs? So you gotta get dangle on, dude.
I if I get noticed, and if I can get
tangle on to talk. He is the Canadian safty is
what he is, and it's Toronto softy, the Toronto safety. Okay,

(33:09):
different than the Canadian there's a different Canadian saftie. That's interesting.
Would you would you make the goalie switch if you're
in Minnesota for Game two?

Speaker 4 (33:18):
I it's tough because that's a whole You kind of
mess with his confidence. Then if Gustafson sucks, then you
have to go back to him and you're like, what
do we do. I'm surprised he didn't do it in
the in the game when when it was like this,
he doesn't have it to right, and I realized a
still close game. It's not like you were losing six
to zero. But I don't know it was it was

(33:40):
surprising to me that they kind of stuck with him
continuing through of those struggles. But you know, this is
what it is. I guess they believe in their guy.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
So we were texting in our group chat, and we
were kind of talking about what would be the best
result in terms of what's best for hockey for a
Stanley Cup final. What what final do you want to see?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Ah? Do I want to see? Yes, let me look
at this UH bracket.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
Because I'll just tell you mine right now, because I
want to see the Wild and I know everyone's gonna
yell at me. I want to see Wild Hurricanes. I
want to see those two teams play each other. I'm sorry.
I want to see those two two because I think
it's such an interesting style clash two between those two
and I think that's what makes the best hockey is
when we have style clashes, Like I don't want to
see two defensive teams playing in it. I'll just be honest.

(34:28):
That's not my favorite style of hockey. That's the Hurricanes, bro.
But yeah, that's true. But like this is this is
a little bit more of the uh immovable force versus
whatever the object is supposed to be. Yeah, that are
unstoppable force versus the immovable object type of thing. I
think that would be fun to see. Tom Condon is
an absolute garbage human being, and I'm not rooting for him,

(34:49):
let me make that abundantly clear. I just have always
kind of liked watching that. Not always, but I have
liked the way the Hurricanes, And there's a little bit
of the analytical door in me too, because boy, oh boy,
they analytical dorks in Carolina.

Speaker 4 (35:03):
Yeah they are, and I think, to be honest, they
do that in spite of their owner more than because
of him.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
I would agree.

Speaker 4 (35:09):
They have one of the best coaches in the game.
Ian's talked about this a lot about Britden. Moore's a
great coach, but they do kind of chew you up
and spit you out, so to speak, in terms of
a players, like they don't allow a lot of like
flair and like personality come out. It's like you put
your head down, you do your job, which I guess
a lot of people can appreciate.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
In terms of my.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
Desired series, I want to see the Savers in the final.
That'd be so fun to see them when it before
a Canadian team. Sure, I liked I think the wild
is the best team. Avalanche is probably up there too,
but man alive. The Ducks play fun games. They do
like it's every game is eight eight, you know what
I mean. They score a ton of goals, they allow

(35:51):
a ton of goals. I am very intrigued to see
what would happen, and I'm interested see how they do
againt Vegas. To be honest to game one tonight at
six thirty.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
I think they're the better team. I think the Ducks
are the better team than the Golden Knights are. Yeah,
and you know, I've talked about my hatred of John
Tortorella in other places and might as weld like this
one too. I hate John Tortorella. Yeah, I know you do.
I do not like that goalie who I'm not even
gonna say the name of. You know, it would be
an interesting style clash to see, like Vegas go up
against a Carolina or a Montreal or something like that.

(36:24):
But yeah, I really you know, an Anaheim series against
the Buffalo would also be no.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I mean, and like you get kind of the two
teams that haven't been there even close to being there recently,
which I kind of like, I want some new blood
in there, but I the team I want to see
win it the most.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
I would love to see Buffalo in it, but I'm
rooting for the Wild.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
Wild's kind of my team right now. Sure, I love
watching Quinn Hughes play hockey. I also want to reward
that team for going and making a win now move
in the middle of this year.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
That's a great point.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
So I want them to feel and then like that's
a really good hockey town too.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
You know, I got some push back in our hockey
text line about rooting for the Mammoth because you know,
they they tanked hard, hard, so hard that they hold
a a sonics. If we're just being completely honest. They
knew they were leaving and they decided that we'll go
ahead and good somewhere else. But you know, I do

(37:20):
admire what Minnesota did. I do admire and you know,
Capri's off is so fun to watch, and there's some
other really good players plus really good Jersey's a really
really good jersey, and that matters to Buffalo versus Minnesota
are two jerseys that I would like to see matchup
with each other. I agree that I'll do the I'll

(37:42):
do the guy who doesn't know what he's doing in
the NCAA tournament and just pick fix the jerseys and
it gives me a better chance of having some success.
But last night was fun because he did the two
to one Tampa Bay Montreal game, which was just two
goaltenders playing unbelievable hockey, and then you get to just
absolute shootout where you see just so much talent. If

(38:04):
you're not watching hockey playoffs, you're making a mistake. And
I love the NBA playoffs. I'm going to play more
attention to them, you know, as I'm getting more excited
about the Sonics probably being a thing I've been fooled before,
but probably being a thing. The NHL playoffs destroys him,
just not abs toletely destroys the If you disagree with
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type of social life, today is Star Wars Day. And
I'm saying that to a guy who has a beautiful
life and a beautiful child. So it just kind of
destroyed my entire thoughts.

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Star Wars Day have to do with having a girlfriend
or a wife.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
Oh, if you like Star Wars, you're a huge nerd,
like like a huge No, you haven't had one of those.
That's what I meant. I just didn't say it right.
I think I maybe said it right and you weren't listening.
Al that's fair.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
That's I also think that the trope about the nerds
not getting the other, you're not getting, you know, having
that part of your life is switching a lot.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
There's no question those movies make billions of dollars, and
they're not just it's not just Poindexter going I'm going
for in the forty third time. It's not that it's
everybody go sees those movies. They make a lot of
flipping money. They still do.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
My favorite is Episode five. It's uh, it's a little bit.
I think it's everybody's favorite. It's just a terrific movie.
I love four. I love eight. I know a lot
of people don't love eight. I just love eight as
a movie. It is not a Star Wars movie.

Speaker 6 (41:11):
To me.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's it's kind of like just a I know it
is obviously a Star Wars movie, but I view it
as something separate. And I just think Ryan Johnson's such
a terrific director too. But rather than yeah, and Andrews
is definitely agreeing with me right now. Yeah, you can
see on the stream. I was thinking about this as

(41:31):
I was making my drive up. Star Wars obviously just
a litany of quality characters, and I was thinking about
Seattle sports legends and who compares to some of these
legendary Seattle characters. And the first thing that came to
my mind was Boba Fett. Because I think about Boba
Fett a lot. I think it was one of the

(41:52):
coolest characters in Star Wars. Boba FET's nick Emon Worry
nick Emon, Worry Emon worried assassin. Yeah that also just
being so flipping cool. There's like a coolness factory worry
question for you. What makes Boba Fet your favorite Star
Wars character?

Speaker 7 (42:09):
He's just cool?

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Number one. The helmet is so dope like that is
just one of the best designed helmets of all time.
It was like five words, you know what, five words
were good enough, baby Like. I just I loved it.
And it's one of the reasons why the Mandalorian is
one of my favorite things, because there's just something about
that lore you know. I know that schors starting to

(42:31):
become popular again. By the way, is lore also and
spill the tea period. I'm hearing that as being a
new cool thing. I talked to a bunch of high
schoolers at the game yesterday for words to tease my
nieces have, so I found out that those are the
ones that I should be using, are lore t and
I can't use suss or six seven anymore. But there's

(42:54):
something about Nicki min Worry being that silent. Well he's
not silent though, that's to be fair, he's not keep.
You can talk with the best of them. Yeah, but
there is something it's almost like a silent assassin when
he's on the field, like don't see that blitz coming.
You don't see just how much damage that guy can
do on the field. So he to me, Nicki Min

(43:14):
worry is Boba Fet? Do you have anyone who comes
to mind?

Speaker 4 (43:16):
Oh, I'm seeing a lot from the text line I
mentioned the one that I thought of earlier, So I'm
just gonna start reading them because we can get to
some more later. But the couple that stand out to me,
this is another Boba Fet comparison, but it's to Josh
Naylor always looks serious and intimidating and doesn't say very much.
Oh okay, I like that, So I kind of like
that comparison too. I like like Nicki Min Warri's as

(43:38):
well with the assassin kind of part of things.

Speaker 3 (43:41):
But the not.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
You know, not talking a ton is definitely on the
Josh Naylor side of things.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
Four to five.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
John Schneider is short, Han Solo never tell me the odds.
I like that also is great. Yeah, there's there's a
lot of other good ones there. You know, you could
make whoever you think Anakin is who kind of has
that arc of was the chosen One and then turn
to evil and then maybe you could redeem themselves later.

(44:10):
The first name that comes to my mind with that
is Russell Wilson. Sure was the chosen one, won us
the Super Bowl and then turn to evil and left
and like the galaxy hates him, and then we still
haven't seen his redeeming himself yet. Maybe that eventually, maybe
as a broadcaster possibly, I don't know about Seattle.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
Yeah, you know, it would be so funny if he
was like doing the preseason games or something like that,
that would be pretty fun. Oh my gosh, that would
be something. By the way, one of my favorite things
is people who take Burt marshmallows and recreate that you
were the chosen One thing where they have like a
marshmallow talking like ton Solo Bert Marshmallow. I hate you know,

(44:51):
it's so good. There's so much creativity in this world.
But yeah, I like that. Another one that I saw
that I really liked from our good friend Keith Callous Jaba.
Both are big dumpers. I'm sorry, that's so good. That's great,
so good. It's probably now. I think Cols is a
little more toned than Jabas would be like without getting

(45:14):
too in detail there, Yeah, Jaba, you know, maybe not.
I'm excited to see this new movie. What the because
I've seen in the previews that there is if it's
not Job of the Hut, there is a Job of
the Hut type character.

Speaker 7 (45:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
So I'm excited to see that just because you know,
with special effects and John Favreau job he does. I'm
excited to see just a recent one here. Each Row's
Yoda is almost too good. That is like, that is
the I probably should have saved that, by the way,
four nine, five or five one Koma Doadje text line
up for whatever you can think of their Let.

Speaker 4 (45:45):
Us know on the talk back to iHeart app Red microphone,
I'll go through those jests. You know, is busy doing
just things right now. She always is, So I'll be
the one listening to your voices today. Maybe an impression
of such characters. Oh yeah, that would be great. Yeah,
that would be really good.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
We'll check those out of two thirty a least no
jar Jar binks though, let's let's just let's just stay
away from that one. Guys. It's uh not a character
that whoa. Yeah, that's good. Seeing a lot of Darth
Vader stuff. I want to know who is the uh
the the hands the Han solo, like, who is that
Hans now short? John Schneider was a good one there,
but I want to I want an athlete for that one.

(46:23):
And also I was thinking about this, who's the Palpatine man?

Speaker 4 (46:27):
Yeah, well it's it's funny because we just got a
text two five three. If Russ is Anakin and you know,
turns into Darth Vader is definitely amper proper that that
is almost two on the nose, guys, see, like tempts
him to come to the dark side, and then that's
that's his fall to the dark side.

Speaker 1 (46:44):
So good, so good, so good. You know, he just
he won two steps a little too hard and that's
what happens is you go to the dark side. Is hey, Seattle,
I know what. I give Russ credit for playing with
that a little bit, like on the on the instagrams
and stuff like that, Like he's leaning into a little bit. Ye,

(47:04):
it definitely is. Oh man, what would Pete Carroll be.
Oh that's a tough one. Oh I think I could
see it though, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
Maybe no, no, yeah maybe maybe kind of but just
now there's not enough connection it'll come to me, It'll
come to me.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Does that make Jim mora uncle Oman? Then I guess
it's a very short times one.

Speaker 3 (47:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
Oh gosh, yeah, boy, that's tough. That might be Pete Carroll.
That might be Pete Carroll. I'm trying to think who
would be like the R two D two, the the
Ultimate Assistant. Maybe Gary Payton's are two D two. Yeah,
maybe that's the comedy real boy is. There are so
many great NBA podcasts now. I watch a ton of them.

(47:53):
The Jeff Tigue one is great, although I have to
be very careful because they use language that is very
much not appropriate. But it's terrific.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Gary Peyton, if he started a podcast, would be I
think it would be the best podcast in the entire world.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
If we could get a Gary Payton or Gary Peyton
with Vernon Maxwell would be just an absolute terrific podcast.
I think, or even you know, Sean can figure some
stuff out and do that podcast with him too. I
think that would be very fun as well. NICKI min
worry is the Millennium Falcon.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
Oh? I like that.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (48:29):
That is a really good one, kind of a out
of the ordinary, but very effective tool to use. Like, sure,
I don't think of him as a non character character,
but the Moneium Falcon is a character in Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Let's be honest. Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, look, I
know this. I collect sports cards, and Star Wars cards
are absolutely huge right now. Millennium Falcon stuff sells like crazy.
What sells the best right now though, is baby Groky,
Like it's not even close. It's just such a popular character.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I did see another one earlier in the text line
as I'm refreshing and everything. Speaking of Grogu. That a't Julio.
He's he's super powerful but has yet to master his powers.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I think that's fair.

Speaker 4 (49:12):
And he's young. I think that's fair, even though Grogu's
fifty years old. Actually I think one hundred and fifty.
I know it as fifty.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
Yeah, that's so weird. It's such a cute little baby,
and then you tell me it's one hundred and fifty
years old. It just just doesn't quite add up to me.
Trying to think who would be the hole in the
Death Star that they attack the very worst thing, Like
who would be the man that's basically saying who your
least favorite? Oh, Jamal Adams is Cairo Wren. That's an

(49:43):
interesting one. There was a little bit of a redemption
for Kylo Wren spoiler alert, not a lot of redemption
for Jamal Adams at the end of his time with Seattle. Yeah,
not a lot, not a lot.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
We got to think something Sonics related. Now that we've
mentioned almost every other sport.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
Well, Debtla Shremp, it just is a Star Wars character.
I'd be pretty sure. I'm pretty sure I've seen Debtlo
Shremp like just hanging out.

Speaker 3 (50:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
By the way, it's great to see how many people
are into this. On the text, I was like, is
this something that nobody's gonna actually have interested in it?
But then that is more proof that Star Wars is
just such massive You know what, we got a couple
of minutes here, Anders. I know you're a huge fan
of it. I am talk about why Star Wars means
a lot to you.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I mean, first of Fall to May the fourth. So
if you're wondering why are we having Star Wars right
after you know, mariners get swept and everything, but no,
it's honestly, it was the thing I love most growing up,
Like everyone kind of falls someone loves. Some people love Pokemon,
some people love uh, you know, gi Ja whatever, Barbie's

(50:45):
if you're you know, into that stuff. What everyone kind
of gravitates towards one thing when they're growing up, at
least one thing. It maybe multiple things as well. That
was Star Wars for me, super easy. I grew up
when the pequel prequels were coming out, so I like
have that even more or so, Like I was born
in nineteen ninety seven, so I was two when the
first one came out, and then I was what was

(51:08):
that five when the second one came out, and then
I was like eight or nine when the third one
came out, So I like, I literally grew up with
them at that time. So maybe that's why I have
a little bit of a fond memory of the prequels.
Softy and I have that argument all the time. He
hates them.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
I do not.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
Uh, it's is what it is. I think. I think
it's where you grew up, man, like those things. If
those were the first Star Wars movies that Softie would
have seen, whether he agrees or not, he would have
loved him in that way. Like it's just because of
the fact that we like to dump on nostalgia or
like to sometimes grab onto nostalgia, so much like that's

(51:43):
by the way, this is a really good one too.
It's a little bit darky four two five, but Mike
McDonald is General Veers, deadly confident but not flashy. I
kind of like that comp General vis. I'm a Star
Wars nerd. I don't even know who that is. Are
they in the sequels?

Speaker 4 (51:56):
I'm pretty sure that's probably why I hate the sequels
if you guys haven't figured that out, and just no,
they're not even Star Wars to me?

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Two excuse me, says, have you guys ever met Softie?
You're literally stealing your show today?

Speaker 4 (52:08):
Too bad?

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Yeah, what can you do?

Speaker 4 (52:10):
We're gonna ask him what he thinks.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
That's gonna be an interesting talk back today.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Okay, a couple of good ones. Randy Johnson's Chewbacca like
it just tall you say a lot? Nope, there was
another good one that I just missed, Jay Buner's Han solo.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
I think that's pretty good. I think that's you know
what else is cool about that one? Jay Buner had
a rocket for an arm, so it's kind of like
his blaster.

Speaker 4 (52:37):
That's a great point. What kind of plays it really cool.
It's like kind of like not the main character, right,
but is like a fantastic side character, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
A guy you could see telling Buner or a griffy
don't get cocky kid too when he's playing next. Such
a good point and you know what, he got cocky. Anyway,
We'll talk to another nerd in Molly Watch and he's
probably cocky too, Yeah for sure. Nathan Bishop coming up next,
Sports Radio ninety three point three kitsch arifim.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
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(53:31):
my oh why, here's Ian Fernets.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
Mollywap Monday presented by Simply Seattle. Use code Mollywop fifteen
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So that's a pretty cool thing. I believe that's May fourteenth.
Check out all of their Instagram and stuff. They do
great posts over there. You know who's really good at
social media is Nathan Bishop. Nathan, how are you doing, buddy?

Speaker 3 (53:56):
Hi guys, I'm good. Do I get to talk about
Star Wars today? Or are we done with that now?

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (54:00):
Thousand percent?

Speaker 3 (54:01):
Like you?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
You can talk all you want, my man. It's it's
that type of day, is uh? Is there anybody who
immediately you comped one that we didn't mention?

Speaker 3 (54:10):
I made a short list. Can I share it with him?

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Please? Please?

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I'm happy to do. This is all Mariners and Star
Wars related crossovers. So the Rise of Skywalker is obviously
an abomination. Everybody hates it for good reason. It should
be stricken from the cannon. However, there is a brief
cameo by a character named Babu Frick who just goes, hey, hey,
and it's very funny. That's Muninrii Kawasaki. Nelson Cruz is
Mace Window Window, which is Samye l. Jackson's character, just

(54:36):
very handsome, very strong, the most powerful Jedi Franklin goudieras
we're staying on the Handsome Train is po Damren, just
extremely heroic, very mildly tragic. Adrian Beltree is a kind
of a b roll character in Mariner's history, and I
also took a b roll character from Star Wars. He's
a Chopper, the robot from Rebels who is very capable

(54:56):
and just loves chaos. He's a very chaotic character, and
that's Adrian Beltray. John Stanton is the Viceroy from Phantom
Menace in the sense that he just thinks he should
be allowed to do whatever he wants me doesn't have money,
and he's kind of a bumbling pool. Da Holy is Watto,
who is the trader in the Phantom Menace. On Tattooine,
Victor Roebliss is Sabolba, who when he doesn't win, he

(55:17):
just starts throwing things at people.

Speaker 8 (55:19):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
And Tom Murphy is Tobacca. He just kind of looms
and stares at everything and occasional week runs.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Tom Murphy is the best visual representation of Chewbacca on
this list. Without question, Boy, I wish we could have
given you like another hour.

Speaker 7 (55:35):
You might have been able to just I didn't that
was that was just off.

Speaker 3 (55:38):
The last segment. I heard you guys going and I
had to get something to be able to contribute. Well,
you could do that for an entire show.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, thank you for listening. Talk about the sweet Yeah,
it sounds a lot better to me. So we're gonna
switch things up. I'm gonna play Ian, Andrews is gonna
play Christopher Crawford after the much more handsome version, and
only Nathan can play Nathan. But I'm gonna give my
quick opening statement just because I had a joke that
I can up with real quick. You know, you get
into this thing and you think it's going to be great,

(56:06):
and then by the time you leave, you just think
it's going to be awful. But enough about the Mariner's
parking garage. Okay, Nathan, it's your turn.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
I'm so happy to be here. I'm so sad that
Ian can't joined us on. We finally got the weekend
where the Mariners laid an egg as opposed to you know,
sweeping Monday through Wednesday and then and excuse me, playing
poorly Monday through Wednesday and then playing exceptionally well over
the weekend. They finally laid an egg for us. But
I was actually not really feeling full of hatred and frustration.
I was more thinking analytically today, just you know, I

(56:39):
feel like when we've been talking about the show, when
we've been talking about the Mariners this season on the show,
we've done a lot of contextualizing of well, things aren't
going as well as we'd like. But the American League,
it's this historically mediocre thing this year. It's really almost
unfathomable to think about the Maritors playing so poorly that
they would miss the playoffs in this American League this year.

(57:02):
But here we are. We're a little over twenty percent
of the way through the season, and they're sixteen and nineteen.
They're on pace to play something like a seventy six
to seventy eight win team. We all think that they're
better than that. We all think they don't have to
be much better than that in order to make the playoffs.
But why are they in this position? Is it just
baseball being baseball? You know what I mean? Because these
things happen over the course of the season. Well, I

(57:22):
think that there are some things going on that are
kind of causing this, and some of them are things
that I think the team probably bears some responsibility for
not planning better for or foreseeing, and other things are
just bad luck, one of them being injuries. Guys like
Matt Brash, Cal Raley, Brendan Donovan are three of the
most important players on this roster, and they're all hurt
and not playing right now. That's a huge thing to

(57:44):
try to overcome. You're dealing with regression from guys who
had career seasons in guys like Cal again and Josh Naylor,
who's off to a slow start this year. And then
you're just dealing with veterans who are continuing their decline.
And I'm thinking about guys like Luis kets In, JP Crawford.
All of those things are happening simultaneously right now. I
think none of those things feel like a surprise to

(58:06):
me or to you guys, But having all of them
kind of combine in this past week and just seeing
all of that, I feel like we kind of saw
the worst case scenario for the way this team could
play this week with the combination of injuries, regression, and
just bad veteran play at this point. So it's going
to be interesting to see where they go from here,
because if the season is going to slip away, and

(58:28):
all of this promise and all of this hype that
we've been expecting and looking forward to in a way
that we really haven't as Mariner fans in since at
least a decade or so. I think if it's going
to slip away, these are the kinds of things that
are going to stack to have them slip the season away.
So I'm not sure where they're going to go from here.
They've got one heck of a challenge the next three days.

(58:49):
It's kind of unfair they don't have a day off today,
but they're going to need to play better because whatever
the American League is going to do, we were promised
a better team than this. I don't care about the
American League. I want to see great baseball, and the
Mariners have not yet played great baseball.

Speaker 4 (59:03):
Anderson Hurst your opening thoughts, my friend, Yeah, I mean
kind of playing off that. It's weird because Nathan's gonna
be the stats nerds guy. I'm gonna be the eye
test and feelings and vibes guy, because sometimes I'll come
on and you know, during my postcast or on Ian's
show or with you guys whatever, and kind of you know,
have a lot of stats to back up what I'm
saying and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (59:22):
That's not gonna be today.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
Just the past series looked anemic based off of what
lineups they were putting out there, based off of the
lack of focus on the defensive side of the ball
and multiple situations and just the overall I don't know,
lack of accountabilities not the right term because we don't
really know exactly what's going on behind the scenes, but

(59:43):
it just doesn't seem like either player leadership or coaching
or anything higher than that is holding these guys to
a higher standard to play better baseball, like Nathan was
saying right there. So I'm disappointed in where you know,
the Mariners are at right now. They feels like they
were kind of cl i mean, out of it after
that road trip to get to five hundred, and all
of a sudden, there are just a few games back

(01:00:04):
of the best record in the American League besides the Yankees,
of course, and now all of a sudden, we're talking
about a team that's sixteen and nineteen once again. And
it's funny how, you know, the Royals come into that series,
and it did the narrative round them as they're struggling.
They've had a terrible first month of the season, and
three games sweep and all of a sudden, they have
basically the same record as you right now.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Yeah, that's the thing, and you know you can take
that as a positive and a negative. Right this can
strange so quick. The thing that frustrated me about this
weekend was we talked about when they swept the Cardinals,
who are bad baseball team. Their record doesn't suggest that
per se, but they're a bad baseball team. We saw
them win those three games in three different ways. We

(01:00:43):
saw a game where they outslugged the Cardinals, we saw
a game where they outpitched the Cardinals, and one that
was a similar score, but it felt different. It felt
like a little bit of both. Yeah, well, guess what
we saw this weekend, guys. We saw that we can
lose in three different ways. We saw them lose the pitching.
They we saw them lose the pitcher's duel, of course,
we saw them lose the slug fest. And then you

(01:01:05):
just got your butt whipped. On Sunday. It was four
to one. It was not that close. It never even
with the one nothing lead. I was sitting there in
my suite drinking Christal, which I that's a lie. I
was drinking like water or something like that. But it
was something that I never felt good about it. I
just never felt good about that game. And that's frustrating
to me because all of the goodwill that I build

(01:01:28):
up with this team just slowly dissipates series after series.
And this is not that small a sample, guys. We're
five games away from the quarter point. Five games away.
That's not that small. It's not large, it's not a
complete indictment, and it's not necessarily predictive, but it's pretty
pretty gross. What no, please, Nathan, go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Oh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
I was just gonna add to your point too. It's
not like they've played an exceptionally hard schedule at this
point either. Some of these series losses. They've lost series
to the Royals, now to the Angels, a couple other
bad teams in there. I mean, there's never been a
point in time that I feel like I've watched this
team and felt like they're playing up to their potential.
They're playing as well as they can. But I don't

(01:02:14):
know if that's if that's just maybe me having to
recalibrate what I think of what they're capable of because
I heard you guys talking in your opening segment on
the show today, and I heard about the CVC method,
which is a much more refined version of the NHB meth,
which is just eye test. I honestly don't know, you
guys if I remember a Mariner team that's worse at
defense overall all over the field, like without Julio playing

(01:02:39):
his best defense. And this is not about me. I'm
not ranting about Julio's defense here, but they need him
to be his best version of his defense to hold
that outfield together because there's nothing else out there, you guys,
there's nothing like Tudos Trandi. As you said, made a
fantastic diving play on Saturday, But I don't know what
you do with that. And we're gonna have to have
a conversation. I guess we don't have to have it yet,

(01:03:00):
but we're going to have to have a conversation about
every single time a ground ball gets hit to the
left side of this infield, it's a potential disaster every
single time. And you can as a fan when you
watch the game, you can feel it. And if you
can feel it, you know that the team can feel
it too. That stuff drains you, man, It drains the pitchers,
it drains the morale of the whole team, knowing that

(01:03:22):
if a ball gets hit to that left side, you
have no idea what's going to happen. And I'm not
trying to dog JP, but man, they cannot do this
for an entire season, you guys, like it's going to
It makes the pitching. It feels like the pitching has
not reached its peak yet. And that's partially true, but
also how would you know, because whenever a ball's hit
in play, it's a potential catastrophe. It's just it's so

(01:03:46):
hard to watch, and it's it's going to suck the
life out of what is otherwise a promising season in
my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
Chris Crawford in Free In Forness, Molly Wattmunday presented by
Simply Seattle so cal Roy Missus two straight games scratched
from the lineup, like minutes before the game was about
to start, or it would have been minutes if Randy Johnson.
And we'll talk about Randy in the second part of
the show, our second part of Molly What Monday.

Speaker 3 (01:04:11):
But this is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:12):
Concerning to me because I don't think cal Rawley has
missed two straight days in a very long time, And
maybe this is just the Mariners way of saying, you
know what, we really want you to get rest. If
I'm the MLBPA, I am investigating that Will Wilson placement
on the on the injured list. Excuse me, because boyle
boy that, to quote my good friend Michael Scott, the

(01:04:33):
timing was nothing short of predominant. I am concerned because
this guy has just gotten beaten up so much. I'll
start with you this time, Anders, How concerned should we
be about this cal Rawley injury?

Speaker 4 (01:04:47):
Well, I don't know a ton about it, so to
be completely honest, the fact that they haven't put him
on IL is I mean, it's a it's weird to
me because if you know he's not gonna play for
at least two games, wouldn't you want the extra reliever
or the extra body on the bench to bring in
in a situation like I just don't know why they
would willingly play shorthanded like that. What however that works,

(01:05:09):
I don't know, But just especially if you kind of
foresee something happening where it's like, hey, it's probably best
to at least give him a week to get him back.
We know he's been beat up. He played so many
games last year. We need him to be good for
us to you know, be where we want to be
this year. But it's not like he was tearing the
cover off the ball before he was injured as well,

(01:05:29):
So I'm not terribly concerned about Cal. I still think
he'll show up and be back. It doesn't seem like
this is a long, long term thing. I think a
quick eye ole stint is the maximum that we see
unless there's something that I just don't know about. Sure,
and maybe that kind of time away would be good
for him to kind of just you know, get the
you know, spring training that he never really got with

(01:05:50):
the WBC and everything. Just get him some rest and
a little bit reset.

Speaker 1 (01:05:55):
But that's just me. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
I just don't see it of reason to be super
concerned with Cal. But that's not the case with other
parts of this team.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Nathan, let me ask you this, just your thoughts on
that as well. And also, heaven forbid, if cal Rawley
was to you know, miss a month or something like that,
is that a position you got to look at upgrading?
Because Mitch Garver and Johnny Pareda does not exactly inspire
a heck of a lot of confidence in me. But

(01:06:25):
if it's short term, I guess you're probably just sticking
with it. But how patient can they be in that situation?

Speaker 3 (01:06:33):
Well, if they had played, you know, if we were
talking about what would it be a twenty two and
thirteen team or something like that that had gotten off
to a great start and stretched out to a six
game lead in the American League West. I think that
that's a different conversation, Chris. But I'm putting as moderate
concern because I don't trust the Seattle Mariners a ability
to communicate about an injury and b ability to diagnose
and properly treat an injury. I think that there's a

(01:06:56):
long history with this organization of really weird injury stuff
going on. And then just looking at cal too, we
know that this guy's been beat the hell the last
two years. He's caught the He's of primary catchers last
two years, Salvin Perez has played the most at three
hundred and thirteen games. Kel's played three hundred and twelve.
He's like one of the most used catchers in baseball
since he broke into the major leagues. He's also at

(01:07:18):
twenty nine, which is not old, but it's also not young.
This is a big man. He may have heard that
he has a particularly large feature on his frame, and
there's just reasons to think so. In the past, when
Cal has been beat up, he's never come out of games,
He's never missed games. He's not started an occasional game,
and then invariably the Mariner's like, oh no, we can't
win the game without Cal Rowley. We're going to pinch

(01:07:39):
hit him. We haven't even be able to see that
happen in the last two days. So it makes me
think that there's something going on that at least is
different for him. He's feeling something different that he has
n't felt in the past. That's something other than just
I caught a couple of foul balls in the wrong
spot and I'm really banged up in that kind of thing. So,
you know, we don't know, how can we know? But

(01:08:02):
I would say moderately moderately concerned now as far as
him missing time. If it's more than like three weeks, man,
they got to get a catcher. This is not This
is a team that's already running Leo Rivas out at
third base every single day. There's multiple holes in the lineup.
JP Crawford's literal only contribution to the team right now
is drawing walks like they can't have another lineup position

(01:08:22):
that you're just punting for a month plus and just
hoping that it all kind of works out. Because they're
sixteen and nineteen. Man, they got to get it together
and start moving forward. So yeah, if it's more than
three weeks, I think they got to look some at
finding something. You're not going to replace cal Raley, but
you have to find something better than what you have.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Bolli Wat Monday presented by Simply Seattle. I want to
talk quickly about the bullpen because Matt Brash speaking of injuries,
that first is precautionary. Then it's a trip to the
fifteen day injured list. It's Matt Brash, something something to
kind of keep in mind. By the way, one of
the players that they acquired was Jose Ferrara. One of
the players they gave up for Jose Ferrara Harry Ford,

(01:08:58):
who you know has not look good in tripa A
this year. But it is worth pointing out that harry
Ford would probably be a lot more exciting to bring
up Johnny Pareda in this situation, I think the bullpen
actually has looked pretty darn good. Now this is the
CVC eye test again. You know, some of the numbers
are not great. Andre's Munio's ZRA is what it is,
and you know, Gave Spiers had some struggles in some spots.

(01:09:23):
But I think overall the bullpen has looked pretty great.
Let me ask you the same question, Nathan. If Matt
Brash is going to miss significant time, and even if
he's not, do you still think they need another bullpen.

Speaker 3 (01:09:34):
Arm I think that at some point this team will
have to add a reliever if they're going to try
to contend for a World Series, But I don't think
that it needs to be the kind of the same
level of concern as where we're jumping the trade deadline
by months in order to add it. Because to your point, Chris,
the way I kind of feel about the bullpen right
now is that I feel like the guys who are
supposed to be the best relievers are kind of playing
a little bit worse than I thought that they would,

(01:09:55):
But the guys that I didn't really expect anything out
of are playing better. Than I expected, So it's kind
of balanced itself out. Like a guy like Cooper Chriswell
has been really really solid this year, and you didn't
come into the year expecting anything from Cooper Chriswell. And
then I think we kind of sexed about it a
little bit. Yesterday Edward Bizarro looks fantastically. His last performance,
I mean, he was dotting the everything was right on

(01:10:17):
the edge of the zone. You're throwing all of his
pitches for strikes or just off. He had hitters absolutely
completely confused. So you know, if Munio's here's the thing,
If Andres Munhoz has a bad year and God forbid
loses his closer position or something like, yes, that's a
huge concern. You can't really plan for that. That's just
something that happens because relievers are fickle and unpredictable by nature.

(01:10:38):
But he's going History tells us that he's going to
work this out and be perfectly fine. His stuff looks fine,
his slider looks great, he still gets great swing and miss.
It feels more just like this is a small sample size.
A lot of the batted balls are finding grass on
him right now, So I think that it's mostly Okay,
I would say, on the level of concerns that I
have for this roster, that would be one of the

(01:10:59):
lower ones right now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
So Anders, it's a situation where it's the eighth inning
and it's not a huge platoon thing. It's not left
left right, it's right left right, and the lefty is
not like an elite guy. Sure, it's the eighth inning
and you don't have Matt Brush available, but you do
have everybody else who's pitching that any it's Bizardo.

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
It's pretty easy for me based off how he's look now.
I'm also I think Ferrera has been pitching much better
than his you know, EO A or and shows right now.
And this is another conversation with how bad the defense is.
When when you have a guy that's gonna, you know,
generate a lot of soft contact ground balls bloops, you've
got to have defense to make those plays behind him,

(01:11:40):
and right now they are just not. So that's that's
another reason why you know, it's a skill set for
what he is. He's a guy that pitches to contact,
not going to strike a ton of people out. I've
actually been pretty impressed with his ability to pitch against
right handed hitters as well, more than I was expected.
I thought he was a straight up lefty special so

(01:12:01):
I think he's actually been a little bit better than
I expected him to be. And now you're kind of
having to equate him and pitch him a lot more
often than we expected him now that Matt brashes out
and he's kind of in an elevated role. But Bizarto
has been just fantastic and he has continued to look
good the same kind of thing where he gets left,
he's out, he gets right, he's out, he gets in
high leverage spots, you know, clean inning versus coming into

(01:12:24):
mop up. That's the big question to me is Matt
brash was His best skill to me was coming in
with guys on base and cleaning up, cleaning up anything environment.
And I don't see that specific skill set with a
lot of these relievers. That's gonna be the one area
that I have a question mark over if he misses
a significant amount of time. But I agree, I think

(01:12:45):
the bullpen's actually been one of your best parts of
the team this year.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I would agree with that. I think, can I real quick, Nathan,
I want to give Seattle Mariner fans a ton of
credit because there are a lot of fan bases who,
after what happened to Bizardo, would have just completely dumped
on this dude. I haven't seen that at all, not
even a little bit. People have realized how good this
was and how terrible of a position he was put

(01:13:09):
in there. So just a quick shout out to Mariner
fans for getting that one right. It was absolutely the
right call. Nathan. I want to ask you about Luis Castillo,
and I want to ask you about Nathan Uh. I
want to ask you about Nathan Bishop. Who is he?
What can he know? I'm going to ask you about man.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
We have not enough.

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Let's talk not enough because of all that Star Wars stuff.
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I think so, Like all due respect to the NBC
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Speaker 3 (01:14:20):
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the text line has given us a lot of crap
about what we think about this bullpen. I'll be curious
what they think about this one four nine four five one.
I thought, Luis Castillo actually looked the part. Sunday six

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innings of four run baseball still not ideal. They just
ask you this, Nathan, as a guy who has been
a Seattle Mariner fan for a long long time, you're
old Nason Bishop. Can you picture the Seattle Mariners paying
Luis Castillo the money that he's being paid to be
a bullpen option?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
No, absolutely not, And I can't really picture them asking
him to do it as far as just you're asking
a veteran to do that at this point in his career,
after what are we looking at. He's made seven starts
this year after being a perfectly acceptable starting pitcher in
twenty twenty five, so it's going to make people upset.
But Castillo is I mean, I don't want to get

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too nerdy on this, you guys. I acknowledge that Castillo
has not pitched great this year. He's not been he
has not looked good. He has looked like the worst
member of this rotation in twenty twenty six. But just
to dabble a couple of things, most of his his
rate stats and everything are pretty much in line with
where he was last year. The two things are he's
walking more guys than he has in the past. He
needs to get that taken care of. But a big

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one that stands out as a thing called left on
base percentage, which is just what number of what percentage
of base runers that he allows does he keep on
base without allowing them to score. And the last five
seasons of his career before this one, he was running
a left on base percentage well into the seventies, up
to almost eighty percent in twenty twenty four. This year
it's fifty eight point eight percent, which is incredibly low.

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Makes me think that this is a guy that more
than pitching atrociously the way that his era makes it
look like he's pitching, he's pitching in a way where
the sequences of bad things that are happening are all
being sequenced together at the worst possible times to make
him look as bad as it possibly can. So I'm
not ready to kick him out of the rotation yet.
I think that I don't think the team is going

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to do it. Caristia has been a phenomenal Mariner at
this point. I understand that the rotation is kind of
the part of this roster that needs to carry this team.
But I think he deserves more time. I think he
at least deserves through May, and if things get worse
from here, you can maybe shorten that time.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
But oh, I'm sorry, Please keep going. I love to
cut you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:07):
No. That was that was about my point that was
about my point.

Speaker 1 (01:17:09):
I'm good, okay, and you make your point. Now that's
how this works.

Speaker 4 (01:17:14):
I tend to agree, but I will say there is
a point where if what the results you're getting, Xiet agree,
I think he looks fine. It's actually the expected stats
aren't that different. There's a it's a little bit of
a drop from last year, but the expected stats stats
are not that different from last year. I just think
he was getting pretty lucky last year and he's getting

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pretty unlucky this year. So it's somewhere in the middle
about what his actual you know, output really should be
between this year and last year. And he, let's be honest,
he was your second best starting pitcher last year from
beginning to the end of the year in terms of resources.
So you can't just like discount that and everything that
he has given you. However, the reason why I think

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there's a lot of people eager to push the button
on the getting rid of Castillo from the rotation is
a you have a guy that was your best pitcher
in the playoffs in Bryce Miller. B you have a
guy that might be could be the best pitcher on
the staff right now in Kate Anderson, he's really dang good.

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So it's because you have options that you feel like
are better than Louise Castillo right now, which is the
main reason there's a lot of urgency with that. So
I can understand the thought that you could be getting
more from the starting pitching position than what you're getting
from Louise Castillo right now. That's not saying that what
he's doing is not a completely serviceable five starter, which

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I think he is. So that's kind of where I
stand on things I agree with.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Well, please go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
Can I just add one thing if we're just going
off of like everything other than e er, if we're
talking just strikeouts rate stats, expected stats, that kind of thing.
Brian Lousman worse than Louis Castillo this, and I know
that that's built off of just two straight bad starts. Sure,
and that's fine, but that's the whole point. We're talking

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about seven starts, you guys. It's less than two much
a month and a half of baseball. So are we
gonna kick Brian wu out of the rotation because he's
got his strikeout rate is plummeted. He's down from like
nine point five to five strikeouts per nine last year,
to six point three seven this year. He's not striking
anybody out. But this is also a guy that's not
leaving it, not stinding anybody on base. So I'm just saying,
it's not like we've got four aces and one guy

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putting up a stinker here. You know what I mean.
To fixate on Castillo is unfair to him, is all.
I'm totally agree.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
I totally agree. The only thing I will say, and
I have said this before, when it finally unravels for Castillo,
it's going to be ugly because of the fact that
he generates zero extension, and people pick up the baseball
very quickly on guys who generate zero extension, It's going
to get ugly. I don't think it's reached that point yet.

(01:19:55):
It's possible it could happen this year, though. It is
definitely something that is fea And you don't take Brian
Wiu out of the rotation because he's too gosh damn handsome.
I've got a few minutes here left. Randy Johnson meant
a lot to me as a kid, Nathan and I
have a funny feeling he meant a lot to you too.
Finally getting that number retired. Just just talk about what

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Randy Johnson means as a Seattle Mariner.

Speaker 3 (01:20:20):
Well, I think that I don't this is probably a
controversial opinion, but I think that Randy Johnson is the
greatest baseball player to ever wear a Seattle Mariner's uniform
because I think he's probably the greatest left handed pitcher
to ever live. I don't disagree. And I think that
you look at the kinds of stuff. There's these things
like Lebron James when you watch him in high school
and he was a rookie and he came into the NBA,
and you just recognize that evolution had with this one

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individual jumped like a spot and a half or two
spots ahead down the evolutionary chain. And I feel like
that's what Randy is because Randy was at his peak
once he figured out how to harness his command. He
was built in a pitching lab, but like thirty years
before pitching labs, and he did it in a way
with stuff that I think at his peak would go

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toe to toe with some of the better stuff today.
And this is a guy that was throwing in the
early to mid nineties and it really kind of topped
off you know, I was looking there's so many things
I was looking up. I was looking up to his
game log in nineteen ninety five, and just you want
to talk about stuff that you will never see again,
Like I'm just reading off a smattering of his starts
from nineteen ninety five. This is the pitch total of
what he was doing in those games. One hundred and

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thirty one pitches one twenty eight three, one thirty four,
one sixty one forty. I mean, this man, there's nobody
There has been nobody like Nanny Johnsin since he did that.
And it culminates on October second, nineteen ninety five, when
the Seattle Marriers, who were literally nothing and had done nothing,

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they were avoid of baseball history, which was kind of
pretty what they became after him too, uh, stepped on
the mound in the Kingdom and for nine innings through
a complete game, almost a perfect game, to send the
Seattle Marriers to the playoff. And if you go back
and watch it, as I have probably hundreds of times,
it's the most legendary moment in Sala Mary's history. In

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my opinion, it's Randy's Brandon iron hot On points to
the dome and bedlam and then it's just chaos. And
that's Randy Johnson at the peak when the mayors needed
him the most. Randy Johnson was at his best, and
I'm really happy to see him get his kudos man,
because it's well well overdue.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
It's really important to me. And I've told this story before,
but I'll tell it again. I went to Game five
as a twelve year old and Randy Johnson comes in
to pitch and it just dominates. And I actually asked
my dad if we could go home because my ears
were hurting so bad from how loud that stadium was,
Like I just it was just pulsating. I have weird

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ear drums anyway. But one of the best moments I
ever had with my father was after Randy Johnson gave
up a run because I just started sobbing that they're
gonna lose, They're gonna lose. He made me go through
this and they're gonna lose, and he says my head
up and he said, you know they're gonna win this game, right,
And I have never forgot that moment. And while Randy

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isn't directly responsible swung on and line down, the left
field line is more responsible. Randy's a big part of that,
and Randy's a big part of why baseball just means
so much to me. He is without question, the best
left handed pitcher of all time. He is up there
for the greatest Seattle Mariners. The Mount Rushmore cannot be
complete without Randy Randall K. Johnson. He is just such

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a special player who was there for nine and a
half years. Anders you were a little too young too,
but you've seen the highlights. You see what this guy
means to people.

Speaker 4 (01:23:37):
Yeah, and I hear people like you guys talk about
him and what you know, what it was like to
watch him pitch. I still had a couple opportunities to
watch him pitch. I really didn't. Wasn't a full on,
like a ware baseball fan until his probably his Yankees days,
to be completely honest. Sure, but I still know how
much he means to this city. And I feel like

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this is much that the the general feeling I have
about this Randy Johnson weekend that we just witnessed it.
This was overdue. Oh my god, it's just completely overdue.
We talk about Edgar and Griffy, Yeah, and you know
the Etiro and all those guys, so much and like,
it's great to honor your legends, but it feels like

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you don't have that same conversation surrounding Randy Johnson. And
maybe it's because you went somewhere else and had a
lot of success, had more success.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
Sure, honest, he was a better picture when he left Seattle.
Yeah it sucks, that's true. Yeah, real quickly. The big
thing with Randy Johnson is you can argue that the
Griffy divorce is a two way straight Griffy wanted to
leave and the Mariners weren't exactly thrilled about maybe paying
him another contract, and the media stuff was a little
bit it's questionable. The Alex Rodriguez was kind of a

(01:24:48):
one way divorce, even though the Mariners did not offer
a fair thing. The Randy Johnson divorce is entirely on
the Seattle Mariners, and shame on everyone in that organization
for creating that divorce, because you pissed off a lot
of your kids. And we are your mom and you
are our mom and dad, and you let mom leave,
you let Randy leave, And it's still something that bugs
me to this day. And acting like everything was hockey

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dory was a little bit frustrating during that ceremony, acting like, hey,
you know, it's just one of those things you happen
to go on. No, you created that situation and made
up a bunch of crap about a back injury while
that guy goes on to win four more cy Youngs. Yeah,
I just it just really irks me. But at the
same time, seeing that fifty one hanging up meant an

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awful lot to me. Nathan, you are the absolute best.
I love you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:25:35):
I hate that I have to do this with you
next week, right back at you, except I cannot wait
to do this next week.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
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Choose Chill. The Mariners get swept with four to one
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Things don't get easier. Three game series with Atlantis starting tonight,
Logan Gilbert against Bainbridge Island's own Jr. Richie Marriers did
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waivers from those Atlanta Braves. In the NBA, the Cavs,
to Pistons and Sixers all win their series and move
on to the second round of the NBA playoffs. Orlando
Magic have fired coach Jamal Mosley, the most obvious firing
I've seen in osamback coach. Yeah, he just fell apart.
That team was should have been a five seed and
they barely snuck into the playoffs and kind of had

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a disaster at the end as well. It's a really
good question. Sad news. Former Yankees rod radio broadcaster John
Sterling passes away at the age of eighty seven. I
think we've all heard the Yankees win. It is high,
it is Farhead, it is God. He is so good,
and it's just so many good puns, and we need
more puns in sports radio. What we don't need is

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more picture injuries. Even if you are rooting against the
Detroit Tigers, it stinks to see that Tischooble is being
placed on the il due to loose bodies in his elbow.
He will undergo surgery, probably three months off. I keep
saying after the All Star break, it's gonna be well,
after the All Star break. It's May second, right now. Yeah,
that's a weird. We're probably talking about not seeing tiscooball
maybe until September. That's a bummer. Yeah.

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Speaker 1 (01:27:43):
M Oh, that's a funky little beat. I like it
quite a bit. Chris Crawford and for Ian Furness, joined
by my good buddy Anders Am I am I your
good buddy?

Speaker 4 (01:27:54):
Absolutely, Okay, absolutely, whether you want to be or not,
that's fair.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
So let's talk a little bit about the Mariners. We
didn't get a chance to talk about Emerson Hancock, and
holy crap on a cracker, was that impressive?

Speaker 4 (01:28:08):
Okay, let me say something really quick before you get
into it, because I know you've been on the Emerson
Hancock train earlier than most people, honestly, and even myself,
I am a registered Hancock doubter. Sure before what was
it Saturday's start, I was still like, Okay, is this
really the Emerson Hancock that we're seeing? I saw like

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a couple signs, like his first two starts were really good,
then his last two were like okay, mah, and then
I saw sat what happened on Saturday. And first of all,
Kansas City's offense has actually been really good this year.
So that's a good team to do that against ye
in my opinion. Sure, and he looked so nasty and
I am officially on board, like all in on board,

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like you cannot take this guy the rotation.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
Yeah, So if you want to be negative, Nelly, if
you want to be see what people think Nathan Bishop busy,
you know it's actually not accurate. He's just a really
honest dude. Can he avoid the clunker?

Speaker 6 (01:29:07):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Because we saw we certainly didn't see fourteen strikeouts for
members in Aircock last year, but we saw flashes and
then there would be a turd. There would be a
turd in a large punch bowl, but an even larger turd, right,
and we need to see if he can do that.
But I was just looking at if you guys haven't
checked out Baseball Savant, it is a wonderful page that

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can give you a bunch of stuff. In fastball run value,
he's in the ninety eighth percentile of all pitchers. In
pitching run value, He's in the ninety fourth percentile in
among all pitchers. He is in the ninety seventh percentile
among all pitchers in walk rate. And this is the
big one to me K rate of twenty eight point

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nine percent, which puts him in the eighty sixth percentile.
Now there's still some hard contact. He ranks well below average,
and that's that forty fifth percentile. Forty percent of the
hits against him are heard contact. YEP, barrel rate of
ten point five percent is not great. That's in the
twenty six percentile. He doesn't really Now this changed a
little bit against Kansas City. Typically he doesn't get a

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lot of chase and for those who are unfamiliar with chase,
swinging at pitches outside of the strike zone, having enough
deception in the pitch to get them to swing it
not strikes. Even with that start against Kansas City, he
still ranks well below average twenty seven point five percent
of the time. So there are some numbers here that
suggest that Emerson Hancock is not this good, but there

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are numbers that back it up. And again, I'm going
with the CVC test, the CVC. I'm going with the
CVC test. That sweeper or slider or splunker or glip
glark or whatever you want to call it was as
good as any pitch I have seen from a Mariner,
probably since El Cambio. Like it's been a while since
I have seen a really really good pitch. I said Cambio,

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didn't I it's Cambio.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Sorry, no, I don't even know who that is.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
But that's what they call.

Speaker 1 (01:31:00):
Felix's change up. Oh okay, got it? Okay, since Felix
has changed and it's just one start, and I'm not
saying it's going to be that good going forward, but
this new armslot, Yeah, and what we've seen, and here's
what I'll just ultimately say, Anders, there is no way
in hades that you could take this guy out of
the rotation.

Speaker 3 (01:31:21):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Zero. You go with a six man rotation if you
have to, you do something along those lines where maybe
you give a guy an extra day of rest so
that you maybe even don't go with a prototypical six
Emerson Hancock has to pitch because these type of results
have to matter. And what you would be telling the

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team if you took an Emerson Hancock out of the
rotation and they're not thinking of it. I'm just telling
you right now, what you'd be telling the team is
results don't matter that much. We care more about contracts,
We care more about prospect pedigree, we care more about
that type of stuff. Because if you take Emerson Hancock
out of the rotation, what you tell me is winning

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ain't that important? Okay, let me flip that on you.

Speaker 4 (01:32:06):
Sure, before we get back to Emerson Hancock, I want
to jump off the conversation you just put out there, Okay,
with what you tell your team is if you do this,
is that winning isn't that important?

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Sure? What about the shortstop situation? Oh, that's such a
great question, because.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
That if what happened, what's happening right now, is if that,
if that's actually the way that they're thinking, they would
do something about the shortstop situation.

Speaker 1 (01:32:32):
That's true, that's true, especially when you've got a guy
in tria A. He's not playing super well. Well, he
hasn't been great. No, don't know. He had a triple
Because my sister and brother in law went to the
game and asked me who colj. Emerson is and I said, well,
he's pretty good. That's no shout to them, they just
have much more important things going on in their life.
Shout out to Melissa Marth and Anthony Mark two are

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the best teachers in Mason County. It's a great point
and for those who are paying attention. JP Crawford's defense
has been an issue for a while and the Mariners
have done a really good job of just making sure
nobody ever talks about it, because if you listen to
a broadcast, you will never hear anyone mention JP Crawford's well.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
And if they do, oh, it's such a shoranded glove.

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
I'm so surprised that. By the way, Maiden Airy yesterday
and the airs are one thing. It's the fact that
what defense is. Let me get my humail and off hearing.
Defense is about making plays that are in front of you.
Let me look at the camera I'm doing this. Defense
is about making plays in front of you. But defense
is more about run prevention, and run prevention is not

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just making the plays in front of you. It is
taking away hits. It is taking away those extra base runners.
And there is no worst shortstop in Major League Baseball
right now that plays every day at doing that than
JP Crawford. I love JP Crawford, what he's done for
the Mariners. I'm very proud of my son's career. JP
Crawford is much more of a detriment than an asset.

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Even with these walks. I can't do it anymore, Anders, No,
I can't. And if you really don't think Colt Emerson
is ready to be your everyday shortstop, then you got
to look elsewhere. You've got to look elsewhere. What I
would ultimately do I saw someone in the text line
four nine four or five one. Let us know what
you guys think about to coma dodge text line. Ultimately,

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I would make JP Crawford a role player where he
would get some starts at short, he would get some
starts at second, and he'd get a heck of a
lot of starts a designated hitter. And let's just be
honest here. One of the reasons why JP Crawford it's
similar to a Luis Castillo situation. Jimmer Crawford makes a
lot of money and the Seattle Mariners don't pay utility
guys eleven million dollars. I think it's actually like twelve

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and a half this year. Yeah, they just don't do that.
You're never going to see them do that. It's a
really good point you make though there, because look, Bryce
Miller has earned the chance to be in this rotation
based on what he did in the postseason and in particular,
what Bryce Miller did at the end of twenty twenty four,
where he was one of the very best pitchers in baseball.

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And let's not forget twenty twenty five. I don't think
he was ever healthy. I just don't think he was
ever truly healthy. Concern will be will Bryce Miller ever
be healthy again? I don't know. Yeah, I just don't know.
Bryce Miller to me makes so much sense for the bullpen.
It's almost too easy because I see that fastball playing

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up so well. He gives you that multiple inning option.
It's a chance to manage his innings. It's a chance
to also showcase him as a potential trade player as well,
because Bryce Miller, because of his contract, and because of
his pedigree and because of his success, has a ton
of potential value as a trade candidate, more so even

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than Emerson Hancock teams like Bryce Miller teams have been
trying to get Bryce Miller.

Speaker 4 (01:35:56):
He's had a longer stretch of success in Major League
Baseball than.

Speaker 3 (01:35:59):
Members so much.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
That's a great point. That's why they pay you the
big bucks because you make good points like that. Okay,
we'll go into that in a different the Patreon kg
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Speaker 3 (01:36:09):
Great.

Speaker 1 (01:36:10):
The Emerson Hancock cannot be taken out of this rotation now,
not just because of the message it's ends, but also
because you can't rely on enough of these guys right now.
Like Logan Gilbert has shown flashes, but they are flashes
because they never go more than five innings.

Speaker 4 (01:36:28):
George Kirby pretty good. He's been your best pictures. Yeah,
him and Hancock mad your two best pictures. I would
agree with that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
And you know, like the five innings of two R
on baseball, you want to talk about bad luck there,
dunk and dunk and dink and duck because your defense
can't make plays behind him exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:36:44):
I wonder how much better someone like Louis Castillo would
look if he had good defense.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
That's a great question. That's a great question. And boy,
I just also I've talked about this before. I don't
think Louis Castillo's stuff plays up in the bullpen. I
don't think he's a guy that's going to be like
this great swinging miss dude out of the bullpen here.
I think Bryce Miller could be a great swinging this
guy out of the bullpen there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
Yeah, the big questions for me regarding this situation is
how healthy is Bryce Miller?

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:37:13):
If he really is like okay, I'm back and ready
to go, I would have a hard time not wanting
to put him back in the rotation just to get
that value from him, because you know you it's starting
pitching has more value than relief pitching, just straight up,
end of story. I used to kind of think the
same way you did regarding Luis Castillo going to the bullpen.

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I've sort of changed my tone a little bit, kind
of looking at especially who he is turned into as
of late, a very fastball dependent fair guy where it's
like if he gets the VLO, he actually gets a
decent amount of swing and miss, and if you tell
him every couple days, hey, one inning, get three outs,
like just pump that fastball, mix in a couple sliders

(01:37:55):
and change ups. When you can, but just pump that
fastball from one inning go up to night nine. I
think there's there's some value there. Now, what you're saying about,
you know how much they're paying them and stuff. That's
a real thing. Sure so I could. But they'd also
paid Mitch Garver twelve million to be a backup catcher.

Speaker 1 (01:38:11):
List that's a really good point. That's a really good point.
They have been willing to do something like that, so
I'll give them some credit credit. It's it's nine million more.
But at the same time, they were willing to do
it and realized probably makes it easier with the guy
like cal Rawley behind him compared to But that's a
fair point. And you know, I will say this too

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with Luis Castillo and again, six innings of four run baseball.
It's a result business, and it's not good enough. The
eye test looks better. Yeah, and I am seeing I've
seen in all of his starts a ton of two
strike counts and just not putting guys away secondary stuff.
And here's the thing. There is a little bit of
and I'll go sabermetric dorky on you here a little bit.

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There's a little bit of noise that gets involved when
you're getting swings and miss with strike one and strike
two and not in break three, that that tends to
kind of change a little bit. Yeah, I would bet
Luis Castile and he struck out five yesterday. Five and
six innings is not an abhorrent number whatsoever. And again
you take away that fourth inning, and Luis Castille was
really good. The first three innings. I was like, Okay,

(01:39:16):
Luis Castillo, this is great to see. And then that
fourth inning. I also think he got squeezed a little bit.
On Sunday. Yeah, it was tough to tell because I
had a horrible angle, like a behind home plate but
like to the side type of thing. You just really
can't tell what isn't is this?

Speaker 4 (01:39:32):
Did you look at the MLB app and be like,
all right, let's see where it was.

Speaker 1 (01:39:34):
I should have, but I was just drinking too much
champagne and eating too much caviar for me to know.
My god, it would have been nice. But I will say,
if anyone offers you a chance to go sit in
a suite, go do it. It's really cool. It's like,
it's a really cool little thing to get to do. Obviously,
not everyone could do something like that, but hey, make
rich friends, see what happens.

Speaker 4 (01:39:56):
Yeah, And I just want to say one more thing
regarding the Bryce Miller situation is it would be one
thing if he was a stud all of last year,
had didn't have a ton of injury history, has this
injury this year, and then you know, gets his rehabed
assignment done and then is ready to come back, right
and sure, it's basically a sure thing that he's gonna
be that, But I don't think he is at this point.
If you remember most of twenty twenty five, he was

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a bad starting pitcher, like around the same of what
Louise Castillo has been just for these what five six
starts great points, So there's no guarantee that he comes
back and is better than Louis Castillo. What's nice about
the situation that the Mariners are in right now is
they can slow play this a little bit, make sure
Bryce is really ready, which is why they had him
to do a thirty day rehab assignment, which is pretty

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abnormal for someone in that situation. So I am not
as urgent to kick Just get Louise Castio out of
there no matter what, and let if you have something
that you know is better now. Kate Anderson's another situation
all in in itself. There's a lot of noise surrounding
him possibly being an option soon because it just seems

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like double A he's surpassed that there's no point in
him being there anymore. I don't know if the Mariners
want him to go make a starting triple A or not,
or if they're looking to bring him up right away.
That is a whole nother discussion in and of itself.
But if we're just talking Bryce Miller, I don't think
it's a guarantee he comes and is better than Luis Castillo.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
No, there's no guarantee whatsoever. And you know, the postseason
was great. Let's not forget how good he looked against Toronto.
Let's not forget how good he looked really and that
Detroit start too until it kind of fell apart a
little bit. But and we have seen Bryce Miller look excellent.
The metrics just adore this dude's fastball because it gets

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so much RPMs on it, but there's no real great
secondary pitch behind it. And if you sit on that
fastball and he doesn't have his best command, it's very
similar to a poor man's Brian Woof situation. The other
thing is the Mariners have a dude they took third
overall who has zero point three seventy.

Speaker 4 (01:42:01):
Ros Kate Anderson.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
Yeah, kN Anderson has a chance to be a really
special pitcher. And by the way, Ryan Sloan struggling in
double A right now, I wouldn't worry too much about that.
He's a young guy pitching in some tough confines at times.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14):
He also expected a longer developmental path one thousand Kit
Anderson a thousand percent.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
The fact that, in fact I expected him to start
at Everett, I did not expect him to be in
double A, which just shows how much they like both
of those guys. But Kate Anderson has a chance to
be just a different dude. And it's fun to watch
because this is not a guy who throws ninety eight
ninety nine miles per hour. He can get it up
to ninety seven. But he has three plus to plus

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plus secondary pitches. And for those unfamiliar, there's a twenty
eighty scouting scale that Anders is just infatuated with. He
has a tattoo of it, actually that he doesn't show.
I really don't he does, he has he thinks he
has bell curve for life, and then has a twenty
eighty tattoo. Right, Actually, it's wrapped around like one of
those bicep tattoos used to be.

Speaker 4 (01:42:59):
I can't pull that up off, Unfortunately, I don't think.

Speaker 1 (01:43:01):
Anyone can pull that off, except for Pamela Anderson. She
pulled it off real well. But everybody else, by the way,
stop with the baseball stitches as a BICV tattoo. Come on, man,
come on, original, original, come original, like my good Friends
three eleven. It's way I'm just so old. I am
so flipping old. But Kate Anderson has three pitches that

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can generate swings and missus right freaking now. And this
guy dominated SEC, which is double A baseball. I was
talking to my buddy Keith Law about this. Keith really
wants to see Kate get to Triple A and face
hitters there. Okay, the Mariners just don't do that like
we have seen Brian Wu, Bryce Miller, Logan Gilbert.

Speaker 6 (01:43:44):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
I'm shocked. All of those guys made at like most
A two starts in Triple A, and some of them
are rehabs, and some of them skipped. Some of them
just flat out skipped. Logan Gilbert skipped, Brian Wu skipped.
I'm pretty sure they just don't do that, But I
get it. I understand why you'd want to see what
he can do in triple A. In Harder confines the

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PCL is a really tough place to pitch because there
are just bandboxes that you can hit the ball out
of there. But I'm really impressed with Kate Anderson four
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Speaker 1 (01:44:46):
Chris Crawford in Free in Furness with my good buddy
Anders who fought back on the good buddy thing and
kind of broke my heart a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:44:53):
Yeah, it's fun, I'm here for we have beef apparently.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
So.

Speaker 1 (01:44:55):
Oh yeah, that's right. I talked about at the beginning
to this show that we were supposed to have beef
about something. And I don't know what's your favorite kind
of beef.

Speaker 4 (01:45:06):
I'm not really a beef connoisseur, but I don't know
the different types of beef.

Speaker 1 (01:45:11):
Anything at a Brazilian steakhouse, for me, is my favorite
kind of beef. That's such. If you've never done a
Brazilian steakhouse fellas in Argentina, that's really good. Have you
ever been to a Soto and Tacoma?

Speaker 4 (01:45:23):
I have not, but I was told that it's Mexican,
but there are some similar similarities.

Speaker 1 (01:45:31):
Yeah, it's I was told that as well by a
very Argentinian person that I was with. But you know
what good food is good foods and I will take
it for sure, El Gato, if you're listening to this,
I will be happy to earn a sponsorship. Let's take
a look at some texts.

Speaker 4 (01:45:46):
Hey, before we get to text, we do have one talkback.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Do you want to hear please? Please? Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (01:45:52):
Mariners baseball watch. I will Mariner's bats, not well, they
it Mariner's gloves, not b the catch. Mariners news again
they were Oh.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
That's yo to watch some baseball, softy, you have a
lot of time on your hands. I can't believe he
did that talk to text man. But finally we get
the ull. That was phenomenal. Yeah, and it was super accurate. Yeah,
super accurate. Oh, let's see a lot of Star Wars talk.
By the way, General Viers, the commander of the ATA

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T I feel stupid now. I feel really dumb too.
I can picture him in my face. I just couldn't
picture General.

Speaker 9 (01:46:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
There's well, there's like nine thousand fricking Star Wars characters.

Speaker 4 (01:46:42):
Especially like the non descripts, either stormtroopers or admirals that
are on the Imperial side that like that aren't supposed Yeah,
they're supposed to all look the same, you.

Speaker 6 (01:46:53):
Know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Yeah, who's the Taunton of the Seattle's God? It was
on to good question. Probably probably one will have to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:47:03):
You had a question, actually, who's Walter Jones?

Speaker 1 (01:47:07):
Oh, yeah, who is Walter Jones?

Speaker 4 (01:47:08):
See, I think he's R two D two. I think
that's very good and not in the aesthetic way, definitely
a different aesthetic. Yeah, but in terms of their role
in the franchise, like the dude that can just is
the most kind of the most important piece. If you
really think about the plot of a New Hope, R

(01:47:29):
two D two is kind of the most important piece
the entire plot. He holds the plans to kill the
death Star.

Speaker 1 (01:47:35):
Yeah, if you just did a picture of the two
next to each other, you'd think, what the hell are
you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:47:40):
But the role, but the actual role makes a lot
of sense. And you mentioned something about the showing up
for preseason. Yeah, absolutely, that guy just he didn't need preseason.
He didn't need anything too.

Speaker 1 (01:47:51):
And R two D two would just come out of
nowhere and just save everybody's band exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:47:55):
It's such a Walter Jones thing to do.

Speaker 1 (01:47:57):
If I see Walter Jones, I'm gonna call him R
two D two and find out what the heck happens.
A lot of talk about the bullpen, many people disagreeing
with us.

Speaker 4 (01:48:08):
Tell us why you feel the way you do?

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
Chris, So look number one the CVC again. The eye
test has been like that five run game from Andre
Smunos was as unlucky as I think I've seen from
any Seattle Mariner closure in a long flipping time. I
love what I've seen from Farrer. Somebody suggested he's been disappointing.
I don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 4 (01:48:30):
Well, I will say as someone who has to defend
Jose Ferrere on a daily basis, Yeah, on the Mariner's postcast. Sure,
And I constantly get a lot of flak for it. Yeah,
it is annoying having to consistently say, oh, he got
unlucky again, he got unlucky again.

Speaker 1 (01:48:45):
But I look at those number. It's not like he's
got like an ERA of six or something like that.
It's just, you know, there's more contact made against him
than some of the other guys. And he Nathan has
brought this up a lot that maybe he's not the
best fit for what Seattle has.

Speaker 4 (01:48:59):
Defensively, Yes, a skill set that doesn't match what we're
what we.

Speaker 1 (01:49:02):
Are one thousand percent. I get that. But man, I've
just been I've been impressed that he's been able to
handle a multi inning role. I've been how impressed he's
been able to handle a left on left close a game.
And I saw him close a game, and I've seen
him in high leverage situations do it too. I I
just vehemently disagree that he's been a disappointment. And you know,
it's worth pointing out that the guy they traded for

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has absolutely stunk in tripa A as well too, like
Harry Ford has really struggled on the trade. I think
so far Seattle is winning that trade by a good amount.
Four to five. Chris, thank you for the three to
eleven reference on I'll be We'll do not finish the
rest of that one, but I do appreciate that you
appreciate my three eleven references. Man, I used to love

(01:49:44):
those hip hop rap our hip hop rap goodness grace,
it's rock rap types of group. Yeah, the olymp Biscuits,
the the three elevens, those type of guys.

Speaker 4 (01:49:55):
I did get something on the text line from the
three six is saying Asado its com as an Argentinian steakhouse.
Now it does say that on Google and then maybe
they advertise themselves as such, but that the actual stakes
when you look at I'm married to an Argentina, the
very someone who was born and raised. She literally just
moved here a few years ago, and she said that's
it's not Asado from Argentina, which is not a bad thing.

(01:50:17):
It's just not like she's very particular about you know,
where to find that kind of stuff. There's only a
few places around town that are all by the way.
Al Gaucho same thing. Also not very Argentinian, not because
of the way they cook their food, but because asado
is supposed to be kind of like very casual like
hot dogs for us, but just much better meat. Obviously
so and obviously Al Gaucho is very high class.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, Oh my gosh, El Gaucho sponsored me,
please please.

Speaker 4 (01:50:46):
Steve Large and Luke Skywalker from the four two five. Now,
Luke Skywalker is a tough one to classify, really is
because I could I could see Steve Largent for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50:54):
Yeah, I could see Steve Large.

Speaker 4 (01:50:56):
I could also see Kangriffy Junior.

Speaker 1 (01:50:57):
I could see the coolness factor of a Luke sky
is definitely you know, you could argue King grify junr
is Han Solo in the coolness factor, you know, like
like just the don't get Cocky's type of stuff. I
get the Hans Solo as well. Text from uh jed
this one. I knew somebody is gonna bring it up.
I don't think it's wrong, though, Jeremy suggests Sue Bird

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is Princess Leah.

Speaker 3 (01:51:20):
I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
I definitely get it in terms of like just the assisting.
You know, Princess Leah is a very key focal point
of that. I kind of think Gary Payton's to Princess
Leah and the fact that he's per personality incredibly important
to the story. Not somebody could talk trash to you know,
he could talk trash right back to you. But I

(01:51:43):
do get the super bird thing because it's not it's
not just a oh girl is this person? But it's
a actually good comp and anytime those happened, that is nice.
Somebody I lost the text I think it was four
two five asking what about moving JP Crawford to third base?
So it makes sense from a range point of view.

(01:52:04):
The concern there is the lack of arm strength at
third base. I just don't think JP Crawford has the
arm strength to play, and we've seen Leo Reevos who
doesn't e He's looked okay there, and it would be
something I guess I could consider, but more in the
utility type of role. Like again, the role for JP

(01:52:24):
Crawford should be, let's be honest, the role for JP
Crawford should be what the role for Colt Emerson is
going to be when he gets called up. Colt Emerson's
going to get called up, and he's gonna play some
short stop. He's gonna play some second base. He's gonna
play some third base.

Speaker 4 (01:52:37):
I needna play second Coley Young get everything.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Well, you could see Cole Young maybe getting a day
off or two. You know you shouldn't. Cole Young's defense
is way too freaking good.

Speaker 4 (01:52:46):
It's the only one that's pulling his weight.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Eat my god, this infield defense is just a disaster.
I could have gone on for hours about Joshnayler throwing
home in that stitch, not throwing home in that situation, because.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
Yes, okay, for those who don't know, it was in
Luis Castillo's beginning on Sunday, correct right, and there was
zero outs, zero uploaded, zero out loaded. Pretty easy ground
ball to Josh Naylor. He doesn't have to move anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
Doesn't have to move it all.

Speaker 4 (01:53:13):
He tries to throw it a second, he goes to
get the double play to first. But why aren't you
throwing home.

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Especially in a situation where you've got the lineup you do,
where Connor Joe and Johnny Pareda are playing. They're a
big part of your lineup for that game. Sadly, run
prevention was so important. Go get that guaranteed out at home,
and then man that play at whole play was close
to Julio Rodriguez throw was such a great throw. We'll

(01:53:40):
be nice to have a catch that can tag. That's
the other thing. Parina did not do a great job
on that tag. He didn't do a great job on
the tag on one of the worst sins I've seen
in the year two from Kansas City. I think Kids
Cidney needed to get home. I think Kid's City was like, Nah,
we're good, we're up by three. Let's just go ahead
and get this over with. It's just frustrating to see

(01:54:03):
those mistakes. Two o six Softy smells like Admiral Akbar Is.

Speaker 4 (01:54:10):
Yeah, for those you don't know, there's a running joke
that someone texts in Softie smells like fish every single
day and they change it to everyone that part today
from me to four. So that's fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
I really like that. Let's see here from the two six.
The talent basis of the MS is undeniable. The leadership
and the want too are questions. Twenty twenty five was
a good, great lineup. I remember how much I hated
that pro team playing the right way. I want Emerson up,
Anderson up. I want effort mistakes, not lolly giggers. You know,

(01:54:42):
a lot of times when I hear the lack of
effort thing, I get kind of frustrated because because you
don't know what effort is actually being made. But there
have been times that I have watched this team and
said that wasn't you at one hundred percent? And I
could accuse every single player I think of doing this,
even Julio.

Speaker 4 (01:55:00):
Yeah, even Julio Er in the second game of the series.
Yeah yeah, yeah, or I just went straight under his glove.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
Now it may not have mattered in the greatest game
of things I think.

Speaker 1 (01:55:11):
That run was going to say, but it still works
bad and it put them in a really bad situation.
Shout out to Andres Munios for getting out of that
situation and giving you a chance to still get back
in that game. So a lot of talk about Julio defense,
and I have to give Anders credit. I wasn't really
paying attention to it. I just you know, assumed, but
I have watched it. It has not been as good.
Here's the reason I'm not concerned. I don't think it's

(01:55:34):
a lack of range thing. I think it's a mental
gaff thing. And I want to point something out to people.
Every great defensive player goes through this. King Garvey Junior
his first two years in Major League baseball? Do you
want to guess how many airs he made? Anders? How
many seventeen seventeen from an outfielder. That's a lot of frickin' airs.

(01:55:55):
And these things just happen like Brooks Robinson made mes omarvs.
Skel I saw him make a bunch of airs as
a Seattle Mariner. There are great defensive players who just
have some bad luck defensively, and then just we all
have those mental days right now, the guy who's making
a lot of money, we don't excuse it as much,

(01:56:16):
and I get that, but we're all human beings. I
just don't have a lot of concern about Julio rodriguezz No.

Speaker 4 (01:56:22):
And I don't even think it's a long term thing
where it's like, oh, is he no longer a great
center fielder. I just think up until now, I'm like, Wow,
I've never seen him have that much of an issue
in center field. But that's what I've been seeing as
of late.

Speaker 1 (01:56:34):
So four two five, I did not realize Hean was
such a Star Wars fan. To take it is crazy,
like he's got the Chewbacca mask on, he's watching probably
at this point he's up to solo something like that.
He depends on what time he started the start of
the movies. Do you watch the movies. I know you
don't like the sequels the seven, eight nine, but if

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you were watching him, would you start at one or
would you start at four and then go to one
and then go.

Speaker 4 (01:57:01):
To all Right, So here's my take on that. Okay,
if it's the first time, if I'm showing someone Star
Wars for the first time, I watch and release order,
so a new hope is first okay, But then every
subsequent time that I want to watch the whole series,
I start with number one.

Speaker 1 (01:57:18):
So the introduction is for correct, but then once you
have had the introduction, you start.

Speaker 4 (01:57:24):
With one correct, And I actually think it elevates the
prequels when you watch the sequel or the original trilogy first.
Oh interesting because or at least for a new fan,
because I think you get the original story that came
out first, and then you have all these questions about, oh,
what about the Clone Wars that they talk about? What
about you know, uh Obi Wan and you know, meeting

(01:57:47):
Darth and having his friend become Darth Vader and all
that stuff, And then that gets filled in with the
prequels and it makes you kind of want that content
a little bit more versus just watching it from the
beginning to the end and have it be linear linear.

Speaker 1 (01:58:00):
Excuse me, so, you freaking nerd?

Speaker 7 (01:58:02):
I'm such a nerd.

Speaker 1 (01:58:04):
No, that's that's a great answer. And you know I
ultimately agree, Do you think so?

Speaker 3 (01:58:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
I think I ultimately agree. We'll talk to someone who
hates Star Wars. Next. Softy KJR FM.

Speaker 6 (01:58:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Chris Crawford in Free in Forness, just real quick, Thanks
for all the kind words. I really appreciate it. Every
time I see on the text line there are nice
things to say about me. It means that my drive
up here and my effort was worth it. But honestly,
if you said negative things, probably do it too, just
because you know it's fun, you like doing it, you're
good at Oh, thank you, buddy, you're good at it too.

(01:58:54):
And I just it's great to be able to talk
to you. Yeah, I'm miss talking to my good friend.
We used to do it a lot more, and yeah,
now we have a good excuse to do it.

Speaker 7 (01:59:04):
Yeah, why not?

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
So Softy's doing something pretty important r.

Speaker 4 (01:59:07):
Yeah, he's big time in us. Yeah, you guys will
find out on his show what he's doing. But they
got something else planned for you. So no Crosstock today unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
But I can trust Stock with you. Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:59:17):
Yeah, we're across from each other and we're talking so cross.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
So let me ask you something. Okay, you've got a
little one. I do have a little one. What's the
plan for first Mariner game? Have you thought about this? Yeah,
I've thought about it a lot.

Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
I've I see like little kids go to the game,
and I'm like, God, I want to take my son
so bad, But there is a lot to be said.
And I get a little weird feeling when I see
like infants with the big headphone things, and I'm like
it's not good for their ears and stuff. I get
a look like as someone who's a new dad used
to like, it's not really the best thing for him,

(01:59:51):
but I do. I cannot wait until the point that
I can take him to these things. I think me
and my wife have kind of discussed like maybe around
six months or so, which would be around July.

Speaker 1 (02:00:03):
Late July.

Speaker 4 (02:00:05):
Would be kind of the first time we're thinking about it,
and once, you know, we feel like he would be
comfortable in that environment.

Speaker 7 (02:00:11):
Now.

Speaker 4 (02:00:11):
I know, marriage games aren't incredibly loud compared to Seahawks games,
sounders games, cracking games, all that kind of stuff, but
we still want to wait a little bit longer. I
feel like, but you are going to bring into bumper
shoot right, like you're going to make.

Speaker 1 (02:00:24):
Sure that absolutely no cochell. You're going to Coachella. We
went to Coachella. Yeah, yeah, with him speaking kind of
a coach.

Speaker 4 (02:00:30):
I literally put him on stage with Justin So that's
pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (02:00:34):
That's awesome, And that's a you have Anderson, Olivia Rodrigo
and the Tupac Hologram all dancing, and it's just, uh,
it's just a wonderful experience. I don't think I could
do Coachella. No, I know I couldn't. It's too hot
and it's there's too many people there that I would
just be tempted to slug. Like there's some really punishable

(02:00:57):
faces who end up going to those types of things.
And yeah, yeah, but you know what, I'd go to
Coachella to watch a go watch a crack and minor
league game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:01:07):
Cochella Valley, Yeah Valley, Absolutely, I am. And that's one
of the best stadiums that isn't the top level of sport. Yeah,
that I think is out there. I like Shaney Stadium
a lot too, sure, but Coachella Valley down in Palm
Desert there is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:01:21):
I think that would be really fun. Just you know,
golf in as well, throw some golf in, Like, maybe
go to some Calleague games too, Like, go to some
minor league baseball, see some of the younger players and stuff.
I will tell you most of those stadiums are dilapidated
and it's a really bad league. If you like pitching,
do not go to Calleague baseball games. By the way,
I sent a text in the group chat the Mariners

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ACL team the Arizona Complex knee, no, just Arizona Complex League.
That's a very good correction, my friend. They beat I
believe the Dodgers twenty four to fourteen. Oh my god.
The Mariners drew twenty one walks.

Speaker 4 (02:02:00):
This is not a football score.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Twenty one walks. And there were eight wild pitches by
the Dodgers as well, So anybody who was there. I
text my buddy Keith law there and he said that
game must have took four hours, and I would have
left very very early, like I would not stick around
for twenty four to fourteen.

Speaker 4 (02:02:16):
But do you prefer those games or the one zero
eighteen in games? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:02:21):
Boy, oh boy, I guess it depends. I would take
that over the heartbreak of a one zero playoff loss
a regular game. I'd probably prefer the one nothing just
because here's the thing too, a one nothing win in
extra innings now with the zombie runner at second base
becomes even more impressive slash pathetic. You know, it's a
combination of getting credit and also taking away.

Speaker 3 (02:02:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:02:44):
So yeah, that's a really good question. I miss long games.
I will tell you this. I had so much fun
at the game yesterday. But the one thing people don't
think about with these slower game or shorter games, it
took me longer to get home than the game. That's

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a problem, right.

Speaker 4 (02:03:06):
I mean, what how many people are commuting from as
far as you are.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
That's a great point. And they're not supposed to just
look out for me, but they do. But the thing is,
man like, if you are somebody who's coming from Mason
County or even Thurston County or somewhere along those lines,
you better get to the stadium frickin early to get
the most out of your bank for the buck. And
was really disappointed that they only opened the gates ninety

(02:03:31):
minutes early. That's too, not enough, in my personal opinion.
Enough to do around the stadium there too, there is,
but I'm a worry wart and I like to be
as early as possible. I got in line at like
ten forty five. And uh oh, another thing that I'm
gonna I made the joke about it during mollywat Monday.
The people who do not back in to these spots

(02:03:52):
in the parking garage should be arrested and deported and
deported and then arrested like in like just keep going
back and forth making beautiful swim with it because having
to and of course me being an idiot and a
nice guy, but mostly an idiot letting those people back
out goe man, Like, I just don't understand why more

(02:04:13):
people don't do it.

Speaker 4 (02:04:14):
Almost every car has the parking or the yeah, the
parking camera on the back any exactly, It's so much
easier to back into degree spots.

Speaker 1 (02:04:23):
There's literally a dude or dudet who was walking around
that is literally there to help you back in. Don't
be selfish or don't be stubborn. Ask that guy for help.
He will help you back into your spot. Yeah, man,
that's annoying. And you know, I had to park on
level five because for whatever reason, the parking garage was
just super full.

Speaker 4 (02:04:43):
I mean Randy weekend, Yeah, Randy weekend, but like having
to wait through that, oh yeah, flipping cars and of
course there's people coming from different sides and stuff. Man,
it is it really is such a convenient thing when
you get in, and it's the worst getting out of
that thing, especially you know, it's not exactly to park
in that thing either.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
But where do you do you take the light rail
to games or what do you usually do?

Speaker 4 (02:05:06):
I usually drive when I can We're lucky enough to
usually get media parking availability in the garage, but you
have to go to the top floor for that, so
I have to kind of figure out, Okay, am I
gonna try and get out of here before final pitch,
so I can, you know, miss all the traffic and everything.
That's where I come in. I live in Seattle, like
literally in Seattle, so I don't worry about spending too

(02:05:30):
much time at the game. My commute is not too
bad compared to yours at least. Yeah, so I have
a little bit different of experience, but I get that
that is not the norm with with a lot of
people as well. I want to ask you one thing,
because you mentioned JP kind of in the utility role,
how would you do that with Brendan Donovan.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
So Brandon Donovan's even more interesting because of the fact
that I think he can play the outfield and you can't. JP.
Crawford just doesn't have enough experience or the speed of
a Brandon Donovan. Not the Brandon Donovan's burner. But we've
seen Brenda Donovan handle at corner Ollefield spot in Saint
Louis five.

Speaker 4 (02:06:04):
He played left field. I think almost as much a
second base last year, you know, for.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
The for the baseball heads, everybody's looking for the next
Ben Zoeberst. Yeah, the next Zobrist who can play everywhere.
I'm Seattle, I'm turning him into that Zoebrist. I am
making him a guy who plays left field, right field,
third base, and guys, I get it. The Cole Young's
defense is so good at second base. I'm not suggesting
benching Cole Young. Suggesting Cole Young can use a day

(02:06:29):
off here and there to get a designated be the
designated it or or just a day to rest day
last Yeah, like that's when you don't have Cole Young.
I'm by no means suggesting what is probably the team
MVP over the first thirty five games that in that
vicinity anyway, I think it's I'm not suggesting benching him. Yeah, absolutely, boy,
I think that's your cy Young if for the team

(02:06:52):
is Emerson Hancock and your MVP is Cole Young. But yeah,
the one thing, the Mariners have versatility, but they have
versatility in a way where you don't feel great about
any of the defense either. So it's an interesting situation.
So coming up next, you're gonna hear Softy and Dick.
They're gonna be talking to mister Well, no know what,
I'll let him.

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
They're gonna be talking to someone very cool.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
It's gonna be Jim Riggleman. Thanks so much for listening, guys.
Sport Ratio ninety three point.

Speaker 6 (02:07:23):
Three Kids Airfitt for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.

Speaker 1 (02:07:28):
This is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,

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