Furness Show 5-6: Joe Sheehan, John Lund and Softy

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Headlines Headlines brought to you by Frost Brewed cors Light
Choose Chill. Mariners tough one last night against the A's.
They lost an extra innings Sacramento A's athletics whatever we
want to call him, walk them off the eleventh inning,
final score seven six. Dan Wilson took the blame and
then watched the post game. He kind of took the blame.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
I don't know, that's on me.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
That's on me, but it was only because he was
pushed there by the great Tim Booth. Horrible managerial decisions
like last night, Like.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, I went with the word questionable. Yeah, to be fair,
but yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Uh. Dylan Moore back, I'm gonna say it. From the
ten day injured lists, some Amon Taylor option back to
Triple A Tacoma to the same two teams back at
it tonight. NHL Playoffs Panthers and leaves. Great game last night,
Toronto five to four win. They hold on take a
one nothing series lead despite the fact they're starting goaltender
was puking on the bench or in the bench in
a TV timeout and had to leave the arena on

(01:06):
a stretcher, probably concussion. We'll see what happens there uh
later On tonight, Hurricanes Capitals, Oilers Golden Knights, both game
ones of conference semi final series NBA Playoffs. Nicks took
the Celtics to overtime in Boston and came out with
a win. One O wait, one oh five for the Knicks.
Jess one O wait one O.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Five way No, I saw it, okay.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
But really the big one is last night. Our thanks
go out to the Denver Nuggets knocking off that team
down in basically the land of desolate, the land of nothing. Okay,
and C one twenty one one nineteen, thank you very much,
mister Gordon for that shot at the end to win it.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm gonna I was gonna talk a little bit about
Daniel Neil or buy Daniel Neil deang Apostrophe wrote a
great column about Oklahoma City thunder blah blah blah. I'm
gonna get into that tomorrow a little bit. I'll touch
it on. John LUN's gona join ust too, I'll touch
in on it a little bit with him. At two
o'clock last night was. I'm just it's just that it's
something that's it's always going to be inside of me.

(02:11):
I there's certain teams that I just love seeing lose,
and that has not diminished one second. For Oklahoma City
in since o wait, has it has not gone away,
has not even slowed down in the least bit. We'll
get into that a little bit more tomorrow. I want
to kind of talk about expectations as well for the
NFL this season, but we'll kind of table that because
I'm watching the game last night and the thing, you know,

(02:39):
I feel like maybe some of us me others softie,
you won't go to Starbucks whatever. Maybe we dwell too
much on what happened in two thousand and eight and
really started to No. Six with the sale of the team,
But really it was before that. If you want to
go to go back to the renovation of Coliseum to
Key Arena, Howard Schultz, you know, not being one of
the boys with the play and just a jock sniffer

(03:01):
that got turned away and got petty and didn't want
to spend money on a building whatever. The Sonics leaving
is something that just will always stick with me, especially
having a son that loves basketball and didn't have that
growing up here. And I mean, it's something you can't
get back. It's like all the things that we lost
during twenty twenty and twenty twenty twenty twenty one. You know,

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whether it's you know, family events, graduations, activities, sport, homecoming
for your kids, or whatever it was. Maybe you lost
a job. Certain things you can never get back. And
we can't get back those years since two thousand and eight.
So I'm very sensitive to that. And I'm watching this
game last night in Sacramento and it just brought back

(03:44):
just a lot of bad feelings. And the bad feelings
were trumped by the fact that I'm watching something that
should never be taking place, and that is a Major
League baseball game, not just in a minor league ballpark
but kind of a subpar minor league ballpark. But more importantly,

(04:04):
watching a team that has history, has a legacy, has championships.
Make an argument if you're writing the book on the
history of the American League, since in the last fifty years,
the history of American League last fifty years, there would
be more than one chapter for the Oakland Athletics. There

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would not just be one chapter. There would be more
than one chapter for the Oakland Athletics. And it's one thing.
When the Raiders went to La then they came back,
and then they went to Vegas, that's one thing. This
is just more kicking sand in their face. And you know,
I've talked to a London been around him long enough

(04:47):
and done enough games down there. The Bay Area is enormous,
but there is a massive difference between Alameda County, Oakland,
and San Francisco. There just is. Two different cities are
two different areas. I kind of know that of very
much smaller scale when I lived in Vancouver, Washington, Ventucky,
but worked in Portland. They're very different, very very across

(05:09):
the river, it's very different. It's Washington, yes, not just
not just geographically, but it is Washington. It's not Oregon,
and so I know that. So them losing their team
is one thing. Watching players finish a game and walk,
you know, five, six, seven, eight hundred feet to a
clubhouse it's temporary clubhouse outside the outfield fences like it's

(05:33):
a spring training game.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
And it's not a pretty spring training game either. Those
stadiums are actually nice down there.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
No, this is subpar and every level, but the bigger
picture I came away with. You know, baseball is no
doubt number three in the pecking order of the big
sports in our country right now. It's NFL, it's NBA,
Major League Baseball, and NHL. That's the pecking order across
the country. It's a pecking order in terms of televison ratings,

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in terms of revenue generated by each of the big
four leagues, that's the pecking order. Baseball one time was
quote America's pastime. At one time, baseball was not just
it was on par with the NFL and certainly massively
more popular than the NBA. Was that changed? The NBA
knew how to market at superstars, and not just superstars

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in one or two markets. They knew how to market
their superstars all across, all across the country. David Stern
is in my mind to Seattle Evil personified. I know
he's no longer with us. That's fine. People die, they
pass along, doesn't mean they're doesn't change their legacy. But

(06:44):
what he did is interesting. He allowed this team with
forty one years of equity to leave. Deep down there
had to have been buyer's remorse, because think I had
the next couple of years when Chris Hansen had a
team here ready to move from Sacramento and he didn't
allow it to happen. Now the Oakland A's moved, they
were unanimously voted they could move to Sacramento or where

(07:05):
a Vegas initial eventually probably end up being Portland. Wherever
they end up going unanimous approval. Why well, because no
owner is going to vote against that. They all want
to have that in their back pocket. It's bad business.
Be it bad business? Bad business decision for them to do. So,
you know the NHL when they moved, you know, Phoenix
or Arizona moved to Utah kind of the same thing.

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That was different. Arizona had plenty of times and plenty
of opportunities to change things, and they couldn't get it done.
In the case of Oakland, you're asking for a city
that's trying to make ends meet to build you a stadium,
or a county to build you a stadium. You're a
billionaire owner, no man, you invest in your own product.
If you can't afford it, sell it to somebody who can.

(07:48):
You're a steward for the franchise and for the city,
and so it always hits me a little bit harder
watching knowing what happened with the Sonics watching that. But
here's the issue that's I think a bigger problem to
Joe Shean coming up in a few minutes. You know,
baseball is probably never gonna have a salary cap. They
just they just never will. And you know there's the

(08:09):
haves and the have nots, and we can look through
and yeah, there's some have nots that have won World
Series and things like that, have competed, but baseball really
doesn't care at all about competitive balance fans keeping it
interesting for an entire country. Every year, there's teams to
start out with no Colorado no chance, White Sox no chance.

(08:33):
We go through the list of teams have no chance
when they start the year. And the Oakland A's are
a good baseball team. They're a good baseball team. They've
got some talent. You know, Chris talked about it yesterday,
Nathan both talked about it yesterday in the my move
that's that's not a bad baseball team. They have talent
and they're decent and they've got good players. Why because

(08:53):
they have good people making those evaluations player personnel evaluations.
That's what should be about. That's what makes the NFL great.
The Green Bay Packers level on a level playing field
with the New York Giants, the New York Jets, and
the Dallas Cowboys. Jerry Jones can out spend anybody. That's
what makes the NFL great. Everyone who you hire and

(09:15):
your front office and your coaching and your player development
is everything baseball doesn't have.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
That.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
They don't care. They don't care. They do not care.
No salary cap is one of the things. But why
is baseball where it is right now? Why is baseball
turned into such a regional sport like where you watch
your team, But that's it. It's very much like the NHL.
The NHL is the exact same thing. Kind of watch

(09:40):
your team, you really don't watch a lot of others.
NBA sort of like that, but not too much because
they do decent job. But one of their superstars in
the NFL, obviously everyone watches everything. It's different. It's one
game a week.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
We understand how it works. It's a little different, and
everyone has some juice in it with either gambling or
fantasy football, whatever it might be. It's a little bit different.
But the region realization of baseball on display last night,
to me, the Oaklands have no chance. Can you imagine
being in that organization? You had no chance? I keep
saying Oaklan. I'm sorry, the Athletics have no chance. And
while they're in our division, that's great. It's kind of
cool to see that, you know, but honestly, that's not

(10:15):
the way it should be. Baseball has so many problems,
and it's not just balls and strikes and umpires having
their own strike zones and all those types of things.
And for every step forward they take as a step back,
what I saw last night was embarrassing. That was embarrassing.
Can you imagine if they make the playoffs?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Like, what are you gonna do? You have the best
of the best coming to that.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It just it bothered me on a different level than
I thought of what I'm watching that game, going, God,
some talented guys, decent players. What are we doing here?
And here's the difference. There is no sport of the
other three that no, I'm wrong, Sorry, well I know
they stayed in the same market. They're trying to save them.

(10:58):
I was gonna say that would allow that to happened,
to play in that type of facility. Yes, Arizona played
in that type of type of facility. Arizona State last
year they did do that. They're trying to keep the team,
but they they're in sane market. Sackerl's not the same market,
different market, and then they allowed them to move. They
also gave Arizona a million chances. And so maybe in
the case of Oakland two, I just think league's got

(11:18):
to be better. Leagues have to be better, like Portland
would take that team to market.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I'm sorry owners, well, and that's what the league is.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
That's the league. The league is run by owners.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
And don't buy a team if you can't make.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
It, well, he inherited it. In the case of sell it,
there should be something like that. If you can't afford it,
sell it. You can't afford it your house payment. You
know what, if stuff goes south for you, it's awful.
But if you can't afford a house payment, get a
smaller house, sell it. Move on, all right. Joshian's gonna
join us, coming up in just a couple of seconds.
We'll check in with him. Mariners continue to play well,

(11:53):
even though they've lost two straight, but we'll find out
what's going on around the rest of baseball. Our guy Joshian.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
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Now here's Ian with our weekly baseball fix from Joshian.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yes, it is Johan. Joshian Newsletter joins us right now
on the Beacon Pumping hotline. Hello, sir, how are you
good man?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
It's kind of settling at your in season rhythm here
writing games. Just it's always good to kind of get
it that rhythm. I love the regular season, as you know.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
Well, I'm gonna get to I want to get a
couple things in, including something about one run games, which
I find interesting because I was thinking about in Mount
the m's have been in already so far this year.
We'll get to that in a second. There in an
extra inning game yesterday as well. They're fifth of the
year that passed the night dnning I talked about in
this first segment today, Joe. And this is why I've enjoyed,
you know, our conversations with the years. I remember a

(13:07):
couple years ago we talked about the Pittsburgh Pirates and
just kind of not trying to win or just not
investing in the product. And as you had pointed out,
there's a revenue share, there's no reason not to and
you had some strong opinions on that, Joe. Last night
was the first night that I really watched a game
involving the Athletics playing in their temporary home in Sacramento.
Maybe I just have some Seattle SuperSonics PTSD creeping in.

(13:32):
Not maybe I do, Like I'm always gonna be sensitive
to that of forty one years and watching it go
away due to a venue issue. But I'm watching that
last night and all I could think of is what
a joke, What an absolute joke that they are playing there,
that they really don't necessarily have a home in Vegas.
It solidified could end up in Portland along the way,

(13:54):
and a team that had historical like I mean, maybe
you disagree with you, Joe. If you're going to write
a book in the last fifty years of baseball, Major
League Baseball, the A's have a couple chapters in there,
right like they've they've it just makes it just pissed
me off last night, Joe, is what I'm trying to
tell you.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
No, this never should have happened. And if MLB was
actually helmed by anybody who had any responsibility, they would
have stepped in a long time ago. But Rob Manfred
just let John Fisher do this because you know, the
idea of going to Vegas is one of the steps
along the way to Banford getting to expansion, which he
desperately wants. So he let a lot of things happen

(14:30):
here that never really should have happened. And yeah, anytime
you watch this team playing in this minor league park,
it's an embarrassment for baseball. And I know that Sacramento
is happy to have him there and that's great, But
Sacramento is to me, a big player in all of this.
To me, it's about you know, the A's fans. You
mentioned the history of his team. Granted, they went from
Philly to Kansas City to Oakland in an era when

(14:51):
baseball teams were kind of starting to distribute themselves to
match the population. A lot of the movement in the
fifties and sixties was about, hey, look, you know, we've
extended westward and we don't have enough baseball teams out here.
So that's how the A's ended up in open But
then you go to the seventies, the Swinging A's, the
three year dynasty, You go to the Bash Brothers in

(15:12):
the late nineteen eighties, and then the moneyball A's. Not
a whole lot of baseball teams have had movies made
about them in recent years, and the A's are one
of them. So, yeah, the history they had in Oakland,
it's embarrassing that baseball has allowed this to happen. And
as you point out, and you know, I've never believed
this park was going to be built. And you know,
it's the middle of twenty twenty five now and they
still don't have the money for it. John Fisher's got

(15:33):
to come up with about one point one billion dollars,
and I mean technically he has it, but I don't
think he really wants to call up. But I think
what is about Hanflan is net worth to get the
stadium built. So this is a mess that doesn't seem
to have an ending.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's the thing that Yeah, and like I said, I
when I brought up you know, we're talking about you know,
moving it like writing a book, you know, And I
said the last fifty years, because yeah, when teams were
moving Brooklyn to LA and you mentioned Philadelphia Washington, you know,
the first Washington team. I mean, all the stuff that
was going on and all that, there was a different era.
But if you start like in the mid seventies, right,

(16:07):
and you know that that team with you know, Reggie
Jackson and Vita Blue and Sal Bando and those guys,
and the Charlie Finley era right then the Bash Brothers
in the early two thousands, and then you know the
twenty eleven, twenty thirteen, fourteen teams, and you know all
these there's so much history there. And you mentioned that,
you know they couldn't have somebody step Yeah, Rob Manford
was not going to step in. And there's no owner

(16:29):
that's going to step in, right because no owner wants
to say no because they always want to have in
the back pocket, even if there's probably no chance they'd move.
That kind of juice, right, So every owner was going
to of course approve that.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
But maybe they don't want to move, but maybe they
want something else. Yes and things the negotiations, so there's
no reason to stand up and stand in front of
this planet. I do want to draw a line here.
I think I've certainly done it lumping the A's and
the Rays together, and there are reasons to lump them together,
but not in this specific issue. Rays are not playing
in Steinbrunner Field because they want tour as part of

(17:00):
some multi year plan. The roof came off Tropic Hatta
Field and there's nothing they can do about it. So
I want to be careful about I tend to not
delineate those two as much as I should. But the
A's this is elective. This is an owner and the
league saying no, it's okay for you to go play
in a tiny market in a minor league ballpark for
three years, and like I say, it's something out of

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I remember when I was there used to be a
lot more sports leagues. I feel like when we were
growing up, you had like the North North American Soccer League,
you had like indoor soccer, and you had the CBA,
and you had various attempts at a women's league and
it's a women's basketball league, and it feels like there
was a lot more fly by night stuff happening. I
remember like there was an NBA team that flew. The
Kings used to play in both Omaha and Kansas City.

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There was just a little more less professionalism. I think, well,
that's how I want to put And the A's playing
in a minor league park for three years is like
a nineteen seventies thing.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It and then some it with no plan. That's the thing.
How is it linked to expansion, Joe, because you said
it's Manford, somehow has it linked to expansion? How does
how are the A's an existing franchise moving to a
different market link to expansion?

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Okay, I don't have this quote in front of me
and Theopatra Gambe, but I want to say, maybe there's
two or three years ago Rob Manson brob Manford said
one it was maybe a gaggle at the winter meetings
that need to get to expansion. MLB couldn't expand until
the A's and raised stadium situations were stabilized. He said that,

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so we and I think at the time he figured
me at the time it looked like the A's, like
you know, the they had the London Square Park. Possibly
they had a park that was going to go down
to by Lacy College. They've got a number of plans
to go by the wayside. Similarly, in Florida, the Rays
have tried to get to Tampa, which is what they
need to do. They need to get to Tampa, which

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is where the people are, and they've never been able
to make that work. But I do think at at
the time Manford made the state, he really did believe
these two parks to get done, and they just never did.
But having said that, you can't now go ahead and say, Okay,
we'll give two other teams. You can't have two teams
in the state that the Rays and the A's are
in and then say we're gonna add two more teams.

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It just doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Joshi and Joni's Joshian Newsletter. Yeah, I think you know.
The thing is like baseball is never gonna have a
salary cap, and which I think in some ways is
unfortunate because if for no other reason, Joe, like I'm
watching that A's team, they've got some pretty good talent.
Like and if you if you as an organization, have
good people in the front office, good talent, evaluators, hire
good people, all those things that should be what matters.

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And you know there's there's players that they should be
marketing major ly Baseball. I just don't think markets are
players very well. It's what the NBA does great, doesn't
matter what market you're in. You know, like you see
other players, I think, God, I used maybe I'm just
old Joe. I used to know like every player, it
felt like in baseball. And that was before every game
was on TV and before like and I was I

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played one year rots history, So it wasn't that. I
just felt like I knew everybody. Now, like guys show
up like that's a good young player. Who is that?
Oh yeah he is pretty good. Like I don't know
what baseball could do. I just think they need to
market their players and market other teams better.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
There's only so.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
Much you can do because then they shure the game.
If the NBA decides they're gonna put the Warriors and
Sixers in a bad example, the Warriors and Lakers on
on a thirty Eastern on Saturday night on ABC. You're
gonna get Curry and Lebron and Doncic and they're going
to touch the ball a couple hundred times, and they're

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gonna take seventy shots between them, and they're gonna be
the centerpiece of the game. If you do the same
thing with a Sunday Night Dodger Giants game, the way
the rotations fall, you might get the Dodgers in a
bullpen game and the Giants using land and rub and
you're just not gonna see the start. You know, Lookie
Bets might go for three and not field the ball,

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not that he's gonna make the play. A ball might
not be into shortstop. That's just you can't market baseball
on a one off because, as you say, you just
don't know what. I don't know who the heroes are
of a game is going to be. Now, for baseball fans,
that's great. We love it when the two twenty five
hitting short the well two twenty five was like average
these days, So the random guy comes up and wins
the game. We love that. But we know who those

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random guys are, and when you're trying to market to
a more general audience, it's not that exciting when Lamont
Way Junior ends up hitting the game winning double as
opposed to the Willia Damas or somebody like their Jung
Hu Lee's like an international star it's just an issue
with the structure of the game. Truthfully, it wasn't an
issue until the last twenty five thirty years, when the

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prominence of the NFL and the NBA made these sports
more about the stars, the quarterbacks, the high scores, the
centerpieces of the NBA offenses. The fact that baseball had
a different starting pitcher every day and a different hero
every day was part of its charm until it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
I think Joshi enjoining us. I'm not sure if our
manager Dan Wilson knows who Jake Wilson is, for example,
because he decided to walk two guys to intentionally get
to a guy that puts a boat on the ball
better anybody in baseball, and they lost the game last night.
A lot of people were shaking their heads over that one.

Speaker 5 (22:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
The decision is one thing. What Jacob Wilson's doing, though,
is pretty damn remarkable.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
Isn't it.

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah. Kind of a truly extreme hitter that's so great
bats the ball. I mean, if you throw all the strike,
he's gonna put it in play. H and he's getting
a lot of it. I want to say, I'm gonna
va for a second here and pull up the numbers.
But I mean he's actually getting away with it because
he's getting a good contact, putting the ball play it.
Never strikes out six strikeouts on the year, and at

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what point he had no walks. He's actually walked a
little bit more and he's actually driving the ball. He's
getting some extra base hits out of it. It's not
just a slappy nineteen eighties Jim Gantner type of you know,
hitting for I don't know how long I will say this.
If you're Peekrol Armstrong, somebody's been talked about a lot

(22:57):
in my on the newsletter Slack. And you know he
doesn't walk either, any strikes out, but hits for a
lot of power. Okay, you can get away with the
profile with Wilson if he's never going to strike out
and he struck out six times, you know he basically
strikes out once a week and he's hitting for some
doubles power. That can work too. He was talking about
Luis Riyaz a lot, and Ariah's doesn't really hit for power,

(23:18):
doesn't run, doesn't play a key position like all he
does is hit for average. And you know, so there's
a disconnect between his actual value and his perceived value.
But Wilson is a shortstop. It's an average to average
minus defensive shortstop. He's not a great shortstop, but you
know he's going to hit some doubles. He's going to
play the key position. There's a lot of value there.

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And I mean, we just don't have players like this anymore.
I can't think of a player you know, he's on
pace for thirty walks and thirty strikeouts and that just
doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
In today's game.

Speaker 5 (23:49):
And that's why it's fun. It's really fun to see about.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
I don't know what his walks were, so maybe it's
a bad comparison, is it? Rod Carw like.

Speaker 5 (23:57):
He's got more power. Well, Karu is bat had power,
but yeah, the Karu that Iley member, which is really
the Angels Carew was just a hit the ball. Yes,
st singles to left field. At the end of his career.
I want to say when he was at his best,
he hit double's power, but I think his career higher
homers was thirteen. Yeah, so you know, not not a
ton of homers, but yeah, Wilson, but again, Crew was

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the second baseman at his peak too. Again, I'm kind
of remembering the first base version. Wilson is, you know,
a decent defensive shortstop. It's the power that surprises me.
Like the fact that he can hit for average. I think,
you know, even you look at the me. I think
his career the belie his career batting average of the
minors was like three nineties. He didn't spend a whole
lot of time there. He was drafted, played a little bit,
was hurt for a decent chunk of last year, then

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came up to the majors, and I mean it gave
to the majors of me who got hurt last year.
But yeah, if he can hit for this kind of power,
which is at a time just still one hundred points
of isolated slugging uh, and play a decent shortstop, that's
that's really something out. It's one of those things that
I'm conditioned to doubt because it's just really hard to
hit three forty in today's game. Yes, the strikeout raid

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will usually catch you. But here's the thing. He makes
so much contact that he doesn't get into two strikeouts.
I'm gonna get I'm gonna hit you with some real knowledge. Now,
if you never get to two strikes, it's very hard to.

Speaker 2 (25:14):
Strike Listen, you can you can only get joshian dot com.
That you can only get that here at Joshia dot com.
Joy is that good stuff along the way? Well, I mean,
I just you know, batle balls and play. We've talked
about that before. Just I mean, the remarkable thing is
he's hitting three forty one and is on base percentage
only three sixty five. It goes to what you just said.

(25:35):
He just he never walks, but he never strikes out.
He's always putting the ball in play. And you know,
I'm honestly kind of fun to watch a player like that.
And we've talked all the time about too many strikeouts
in baseball and everything else, and it's you know, I'm
still trying to we're all shaking our Ed Wilson did
say last night that's on me, that's on me, and
it was. But they've play They've played a lot of
one run games the marriage you wrote about this and

(25:56):
I think are at I think a third of their
games now this season and one run games they've played
five out of thirty three have been in extra innings
as well. You kind of touched in on this. What
does that mean over the course of a season.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
One run games are random is not the word I
want to use, but they're not. They're determined by a
call here, a play here, and close games can go
either way. Even bad bad teams will play closer to
five hundred in one run games than they will the
rest of the time. The true mark of a good

(26:30):
team isn't do you win the close games, it's do
you avoid playing close games. The true mark of a
good team is that you blow the other team out
at the times a week now, the Mariners, So I
did the stat today where I'm looking at one run
games plus extra inning games and then you know, solving
for the where the tour of the same. And the
reason I do this is that if a game is
tied at the end of nine, no matter what the

(26:52):
final score is, it's a one run game. Effectively, it's
a close game. It should go into that one run bin.
So the Marragers a nine and four in these games
and these one plus that you're any games and that's
you know that that goes to your record, and that counts,
But it's not the kind of thing that necessarily is
sustainable over the course of a year. The Mariners are

(27:13):
also though old age of my eyes here five and
three in blowouts. If I want to know how good
a team really is, I want to know how often
it's blowing its team the other guys out, and how
often you know they're they're getting blown out. So the
Marrators are ahead of the game on that score as well.
So of course you put the two together and that's
why they're in first place. But going forward, like, the

(27:35):
Guardians are nine and one in these one plus one
x games I'm calling them, and they've been blown out
more than almost any team in baseball, so they're above
five hundred. But I would not expect that to last.
If you want to know, what if it's the reverse
of what we've talked about, right, Oh, you know this
team is clutched. They can win the close games, they

(27:55):
do the little things, and it's actually the reverse. In
close games tend to more random. Blowouts are a better
measure of skill. The four worst teams in baseball last year,
the Rockies, Angels, Marlins, and White Sox. They were actually
like a four to fifty collectively in one run games.
You know, the rest of the time they were basically
like a three twenty five team, But collectively they were

(28:18):
like a eighty two and one oh five and one
run games, and you look at this for any season,
one run games are gonna be closer to five. Even
bad teams are gonna win their year of one run games.
But bad teams are gonna get blown out. They're gonna
I believe the White Sox were ten and forty and
blowouts last year. So that's the measure here. So to
bring it back for the matters, they're winning both types
of games, but the more indicative one for me is

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the six and three and blowoffs.

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us coming up a two o'clock. We'll talk more about,
you know, baseball and some of the mistakes they seem
to be making. There's no doubt about that. Along the

(29:46):
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Daily power pointing your home for the Krack in ninety
three point three kJ r FM NHL Hel's Draft lottery
last night, Krakens pick went down a couple spots. I
don't know why we can't just do regular lotteries. It's interesting, like,
can't we just do you have a one percent chance,

(30:43):
you have a thirty percent chance pick and we go.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Liar old envelope style, Yeah, David Stern with the yeah,
next one.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
Yeah, I didn't. I was in the car, so I
didn't see yesterday. People said it was more entertaining, but
you know, Wednesday anounced top two. Thenverybody drops down and
you can only move up ten spots in the draft,
and one team did. That would be the New York Islanders.
They moved up ten spots to get the number one Pickay,
but not a really big I mean this year probably
not the biggest deal. For the second straight year, the

(31:13):
Seattle Kraken will pick eighth in the NHL Entry Draft.
Last year they took Berkeley Catton with that eighth pick. Overall,
all he's done is put up thirty five points so
far in the Western Hockey League playoffs, leading his team
to the championship series, which starts on Friday. And Ron
Francis has said numerous times and Jason Borel, I would
think would agree he will be here in Seattle at
the start of next season, at least to start the

(31:35):
year and probably good chunk of the year. Not much
he can do left in the Western League. There have
been good players. Zach O Rinsky, who could win the
Norris Trophy Best Defenseman this year, was picked. William Neelanders
squored a couple of goals last night for Toronto, picked
eighth overall. There's been some misses along the way, so
hard to kind of get into too many picks. Who
would be who will it be? Well, at least one

(31:56):
publication is saying that Seattle with the eighth pick overall
for the first time ever, will take a Seattle player.
Roddy Murkef from the Thunderbirds, right handed defenseman who is
really good. Right shot defensemen don't grow on trees, big
ones that can skate, same thing. He's a couple of

(32:17):
years away. Watched him play a couple times this season
in person. Good players, no defensive one.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
You know, guy, there's no defensive tree in the backyard.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
There is not when you're shooting on the right side,
right right shot, defenseman or not. They don't grow on trees.
So they if they went down that road two years
a row with the guy in the Western League and
the US Division, I'd be kind of cool. But we'll see.
That's the early pick right now for Seattle according to
the Athletic and Scott Wheeler and those guys, So we'll see.
But yeah, good for we'll see drafts coming up. The
twenty sixth, I'm sorry, the twenty seventh and twenty eighth

(32:47):
of June. It's a two day affair. It's in LA
but all the teams will be at their headquarters. A
little bit different this year. I know, we're planning on
doing something with our station here, so we'll see how
that turns out. But yeah, number eight. Overall, ideally you're
just not in the lottery. That'd be kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (33:03):
Well that means you're good, yeah, like really good.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Well you're one of the top sixteen, you mean as
opposed to the bottom sixteen. Yeah, since fifty of the
team's mad, it's not as bad as the NBA, we're
twenty out of thirty make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Of some sort well technically yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
Whatever the playing.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Stuff is, Yeah, I mean I used to before I
married into NBA fanhood. I used to start watching once
the playoffs started. Yeah, I can catch a game here
and there, but it's the most interesting to me. And
I don't know how much. Sorry, I know this is
the Power playoffs. How much you've been watching. But the
refs are just letting them play. In the NBA and

(33:45):
the NBA playoffs, they call the softest fouls throughout the
whole entire season. And that's why Lebron gets so much
criticism and other players too for flopping. And he flops,
I will say that he does. But they are just
not calling tickie tack at all. And what I also
came to learn was how you can review, you can

(34:05):
challenge none calls. Yes, yeah, I hadn't realized that until this.

Speaker 5 (34:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
The officiating just comes into like more of a microscope
in playoffs always right, for sure.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
That's what would make me think they would call harsher
instead of the opposite.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
And the NHL had an issue last night. Uh Anthony
stole Lars the goalie for Toronto. He got run into
and kind of a I mean, by all indications, I
mean got hit sam Be hit him in the head
forearm to the head, the side of the head as
he skated through kind of the blue paint across the crease,
like a forearm shiver to the head. Yeah, pretty sure
he's got a concussion because he stayed in the game

(34:42):
for a while. But then the next like ten minutes later,
went to the bench and hurled like puked on TV.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
That was cool, And uh man, that's a cantus.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
You see Joseph Walls the back if you could see
him trying to step over it as he kind of
got came onto the ice to replace him. But there
was like no penalty on that play. And apparently there's
no supple mental discipline. People are losing their mind. Hockey
is so hard to officiate. As fast as I still
think NBA, I think basketball at a high level is
the hardest sport to officiate because you could call it

(35:11):
feels like you could call a foul letter the law
on almost every single play right right, like every single play.
And as you know, as big, strong, fast, as physical
athletic as these guys are these days in the NBA
and college basketball is the same way. It's it has
to be extremely, extremely hard to officiate, right.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
Unless you're a star, because then all.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Of a sudden, the Jordan rules have been going on
since the nineties, but.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
A gust of wind goes to your face and all
of a sudden you're flopping and someone gets teed up
for it.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
Jordan. Jordan is just the modern day. And I'm not
comparing the players, I'm comparing the calls. He's the modern
day Michael. Michael got the same ones. I mean, if
it's funny, I mean all three markets I worked in,
all three went to and I wasn't here in Seattle
ninety six when the Sonics went to the finals against Jordan.
Before that was Portland, Remember Portland went to him, the Sonics,

(36:04):
and then Houston was in between, right, and then obviously
we had the Jazz. I was down there in Salt Lake,
and I mean it was always the Jordan rules just
drove people nuts. Didn't matter what market you're in. Michael
got every call, The Bulls got every call, and maybe
it appeared that way. Mike had the ball in his
hands a lot, so probably was going to get some calls.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
He did have a ratio that would favor getting more
call Yeah, but I think the other right though, I
think the NBA's it and they should let him play
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
The only thing I always would hate is a foul
is a foul if you're going to be consistent. It's
the same in the first quarter of the right exactly,
first and fourth.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Of I just felt like that. I feel like they
have loosened the leash quite a bit on what they're calling.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, let him play, Let him play, Let him play.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Make some more fun too, because they get.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
You have a couple of NBA games tonight, right, including
our good friends the Golden State Warriors. We'll talk about
that with our friend John Lunz. He's going to join
us in just a couple of minutes from John lund unleashed.
I want to get his thought. He worked for the
a's flagship radio station for a long time. Not cambr
but his first station down in the Bay Area was
the a's flagship and he understands that market. It's I

(37:12):
wonder what they're thinking down there after watching have watched
for the first six weeks some weeks of season. This
absolute horror show, embarrassment of baseball in Sacramento in a
minor league. But I just saw a picture today and
says his daughter goes to Coastal Carolina and they've got
a like they won a national championship in baseball. It's
it's they're really good. But they're showing this like drone
shot of their stadium and kind of recruiting thing. And

(37:33):
I'm like, that's nicer the Sacramento and that's not an
SEC school, that's a Sun Belt school. Right, we'll talk
about that with Lund and much more stick around coming
up next.

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Headlines right to by frostpreed cruise I choose chill manners
tough one last night, losing an extra innings to the
A's by a final score of seven to six, and
the eleventh inning lost in the loss with the incredible
tenth inning by Andres Munno's bases loaded, nobody out, winning
run on third with nobody out won two three strikeouts later,

(38:10):
Thanks for coming, but they lose it in the bottom
of the eleventh. Dan Wilson says, yep, that one's on
me and it was good news. Ol Dylan Moore back
off the ten day injured list as well. NHL Playoffs,
Panthers leaves Game one of their series Great one last
night five for Toronto with a win, take a one
ozerh series lead in the Eastern Conference semi final, Hurricanes Capitals.
Game one of the other Eastern Conference semi final tonight,

(38:31):
Oilers and Kings. I'm saying Oilers and Knights is the
late game tonight, Game one Western Conference semi Finals. NBA
Playoffs going on as well. Game one is happening in
the Conference semi finals. Knicks took the Celtics to overtime
in Boston one one oh five the final New York
with the win Nuggets over OKC one twenty one to
one nineteen. Let's go joker, both road teams winning. Game

(38:53):
one's yesterday in the NBA playoffs. And it's kind of
a bummer, but we will not have a triple crown
winner this season. Kentucky w Winter Sovereignty will not run
in the Preakness, ending any chance for a triple crown.
That'll be now seven straight years without one. They say, uh,
I'm not gonna do it. I'm not sure why, a
long term health of the horse, which is a good

(39:14):
reason not to run. All right, let's get to it.
John lun standing by in just a second.

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Speaker 4 (39:44):
It or not.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
John Lonn John lond Unleash joins us from the Bay Area. Hello, sir,
how are you.

Speaker 8 (39:53):
I've never been better, never ever ever been better.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
That's a lie, that's a lie. I knew you thirty
years ago. I knew you thirty years ago. You were
younger and better looking.

Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, I know, it's all gone downhill. I guess one
of the reasons is is I don't know.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
If you guys are aware of this, but there's this
thing and it's after the regular season, and it's called
the playoffs, and.

Speaker 4 (40:13):
I don't know if you're aware of it. I don't know.

Speaker 8 (40:14):
The Seahawks have been there for a while. The Mariners,
you're have it, the Cracking ever have they have? The
Warriors are playing a playoff game day. It's this really
cool concept, like you play a regular season, then you
see like the best team and you play this called postseason.
It's called I almost forgot what you maybe almost forgot
first you ever heard of it?

Speaker 2 (40:32):
First? First of all, the Seahawks. I was there two
years ago in the Bay Area hanging out with you
watching the Seahawks playoff game. And remember remember remember we're
wondering if the game was going to be played because
apparently it floods down there. You guys don't aren't used
to rain, right, And that same year the Crack and went,

(40:54):
I know this. The Cracking have been to the playoffs
more recently two years ago than the Sharks have been.
So we'll go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they beat they
beat your friends as yeah, they beat your friends as.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (41:07):
But you are familiar, that's right, we we did.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
You and I did sit next.

Speaker 8 (41:10):
To each other and k Metcalf, the former Seahawks that
great fifty yards down the sideline and then the second
half happened.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
But yeah, I remember that was that body slam? Was
that the body slam of Fred Warner? Or No, what
did he do that game? He did something that was amazing. Yeah,
that's a great one.

Speaker 5 (41:30):
Miss.

Speaker 8 (41:30):
I'm gonna miss DK just for that very reason. Is
that they just the Niners is part of their game
plan against the Seahawks. It was like, get d K pissed.
Like I think it was like you walk into their
locker room. I think it was like bullet point two
or three.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
It was like DK, get DK pissed.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
That was the Rams had the same thing on.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
The board.

Speaker 8 (41:48):
Yeah, it's I can't remember the verbiage, but yeah, they did.
That was like part of their plan. Like DK is
mentally weak, So you can't do that anymore.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
No, you've got Cooper cup deal with now. I don't
think he gets He's from Prosser, Washington, He's from Wine Country.
He doesn't get pissed off.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
He just does.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
So he's gonna go through just chills. Hey, I got
I got to ask you about this this nonsense I
saw last night. All right, now, I'll get back to
the NBA playoffs in a minute, but let me get
to this just for a sec whatever what We briefly
talked about it, but until I saw it up close,
well up close via television set and in you know,

(42:27):
living color. What in God's name of the Oakland A's
or whatever they're called the Athletics doing playing in sacrament
does that I mentioned this earlier, This almost epitomizes baseball,
like if you wonder why you've slipped, you gone from
America's pastime to number three on the pecking order and

(42:47):
probably very similar to the NHL, more so than you're
more similar to the NHL than you are to the
NBA and the NFL, because you've turned into a regional sport,
like we joke, like regional means more than national, right,
like like reach only like no one watches a game
and not involving their baseball team, and kind of the
same goes with hockey sometimes too. And that's where you are.
But my god, how could you fathom the NFL or

(43:09):
the NBA saying, you know what, things aren't working out
well in your arena. You go play in a minor
league stadium or a minor league arena with six thousand
people for a basketball team or whatever. Could you imagine
that happening.

Speaker 8 (43:22):
Well, I'm glad you ask that, because I was.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
I was complaining so much about it. I said, you know,
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go up and I'm gonna
go to that. I'm gonna go to a.

Speaker 8 (43:30):
Game up there so that I can just say, okay.
So the third game of the year, they had a
day game and they're taking on the Cubs, and the
Cubs just absolutely murdered them. I mean to hit the
ball out of the ballpark. It's easily the biggest home
run park, easiest, easiest home run park. And then in
Sacramento in the summertime, it's not like the Bay Area
where it gets cooled off. It's gonna be like one
hundred and five hundred and ten up there. And it's

(43:51):
a minor league bull park. It's everything of a minor
league ball park, including the clubhouse. You know, like in
a clubhouse, a major league clubhouse, you walk through the
dugout to the club mouse because you don't want to
go through.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
A bunch of jackasses and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 8 (44:02):
Well, their clubhouses are out in the center field. So
you get done with the game and it's like little league.
You go run out in the center field and get
in the huddle. You know, good game, Jimmy. It's this
it's this ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
The whole thing is ridiculous. So I go out.

Speaker 8 (44:13):
Now, the positive side is the game started at like
twelve thirty and I get there like an hour before.
Because you know, I'm a VIP, so I go on
the field.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
And because babies all that kind of stuff, that's what
you are.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And so I get.

Speaker 8 (44:24):
But I mean, there's there's no traffic at all. There's
no traffic because here's the other part of it. So
first of all, I'll get to a minor league ball
park in a second. Nobody wants them, so the A's
fans are pissed.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Off, so they won't go to the game.

Speaker 8 (44:38):
Sacramento's like what baseball?

Speaker 4 (44:40):
What is that?

Speaker 8 (44:40):
Where you used to a Triple A team. It's the
third game of the season. So what it feels like
is the spring training game because.

Speaker 4 (44:46):
You have people sitting on the lawn.

Speaker 8 (44:47):
Yeah, and it's like seven it's seventy degrees and sunny,
it's beautiful. They only have to sell out like ten
thousand and three thousand that is on the lawn, so
it's like seven thousand people in seats, and they can't
even do that by the third game of the year
because the A's don't want to embrace Sacramento. They're calling
themselves the Athletics. And so Sacramento's pissed off, Oakland's pissed off.

(45:08):
Nobody wants to go.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
And the only reason you go is there was a
bunch of Cubs fans. It was probably ninety percent Cubs fans.

Speaker 8 (45:13):
I hadn't ever seen less home team gear ever at
a professional sporting event. And you know me, I'm old you,
and I mean, it's like thirty years of doing this
and I hardly any gear. And it was all fake
gear that said like people had just like drawn Sacramento
on like it was pathetic. And here's the worst part is,
so I go up there and I'm like, Okay, maybe
the beer prices are not major league beer prices. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 (45:36):
Your gear you know you're.

Speaker 8 (45:37):
Sixteen ounce domestic, it's still eighteen dollars.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
No, I mean, a whole experise money draft.

Speaker 8 (45:42):
And here's and here's the kicker about I don't know.
An hour before the game, I decided to go leave
my house and drive up there.

Speaker 4 (45:50):
I got third road.

Speaker 8 (45:51):
Tickets behind the Cubs dugout for thirty nine dollars, So
that's the only upside to it. But nobody's going to
the games, and you know, John Fisher, their owners an idiot,
so I don't even know if they're gonna be able
to go to Vegas. So you've alienated Oakland in the
Hull Bay area. You may not be able to go
to Vegas because your owner is such an idiot, and
you're sitting in Sacramento, which is not even a minor

(46:11):
league baseball town. I mean what you mentioned though, and
let's let's make this relevant to the people listening, because
that would be nice.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Is that the major league owners, how the hell have
you let this happen to your sport, That there's a
team that you've bastardized to such a high level. They
don't have a home, like seriously, they're in like this
is a Foster home or something like. They are homeless,
and the park they play in is not even minor
league quality.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
I mean even the A's players.

Speaker 8 (46:36):
There was a guy that came up.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
His name's Nick Kurtz.

Speaker 8 (46:38):
He's he was the fourth Verall pick last year in
the Major League Draft and one of their outfielders, and
he can kind of slipped when he said it, and
he goes, yeah, it was his major league debut, but
he goes, it was in a minor league park.

Speaker 4 (46:47):
So it kind of doesn't count.

Speaker 8 (46:48):
So when we hit the road and they go into
a major league park, then he's going to feel like
he's in the major league. I mean, one of their
own players said that, and he wasn't even trying to
be the meaning. It's just a fact, like they're playing
in a minor league park. If the Man Owners were
played in Tacoma where the Rainiers play, right, yeah, I
mean that's what it's like. And these guys are like
ready to be a major leaguer. It's a joke, like

(47:08):
to see the Cubs play in that park, a major
market team play in that ballpark.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
I mean I talked to some of the guys. They
were laughing, like this is laughable, Like what are we doing. Well,
it's a sport doing.

Speaker 2 (47:20):
That's the problem. It's the sports fault. And you know
it's it's by the way, Like the funny you mentioned
the Cubs because there was a play they showed a
couple of times. Guy on the grass down the right
field line, sitting in the grass where most of the
fans sit. You know, those must be the cheap seats,
so they all sit in the grass like like it's
like like you're in Peoria, like you're in Arizona in
the spring training, right You're all sitting down there. And
the dude this went up to catch the balls wearing

(47:42):
a Cubs jersey. I saw Phillies jersey like the same
thing I saw like a bunch of It's it's spring
training in May, yeah, and you know all those things
that felt like and almost not to pile on the
stadium and that chatty stadium and Tacoma's better, like it
looks more like Maje and it's not a major league ballpark.
Like I'm watching. They should kept you on wide shots.
They had a drone shot that kept using and I'm like,

(48:04):
are you just trying to rub in the fact that
these guys are absolutely minor league nonsense? But it goes
back to He's like, this is baseball, Like it's the
one sport that doesn't have a salary cap. It's the
one sport that would allow this to happen, Like all
these things, like you know, like, and what pisses me
off is that, like I grew up before we had
the Mariners, I was an A's fan, like Geene Tennis,
Ray FOSSi, Vita Blou, those guys, sal Bando, Like that

(48:26):
was my first team and you know those there's some
great you know, part of the history of the A's
And I'd say the same thing with it with the
Raiders and the fact that both can move to Vegas
is just a big middle finger. Now, maybe that's the
Bay Area's fault. Maybe it's one of those things like
hey man, that's that's what you get these days if
you don't build a building or whatever. But the whole
thing is messed up, Like bait, I'll go back. Oakland's

(48:49):
not at Burton. The Athletics are not a bad team.
They're actually pretty good.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
They got good talents.

Speaker 2 (48:55):
Yeah, and you know that's what makes the NFL fun
or you know, what are other sports that have a
salary cap fun? If you have good executives that draft well,
develop well, evaluate talent, well, everyone's on the same playing field, right,
and then it makes it makes the sport better. There's
a little bit of parody here, you know, basically it's
based on your your talent. No, Baseball doesn't want to

(49:15):
do it that way. They just want to big markets
rule you just you know, buy players, buy teams and
all that. And I just I think that's the the
epitome of it there. What's going on with the athletics.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
Well, I think and you can relay up in Seattle.
I mean, they stole the team from Oakland. They ught
out stole them, and they had all the you know,
sell and they wanted to sell the team and that
was never going to happen because John Fisher, their owner,
is a you know, this is all handed down to him.
He's you know, Gap and old Navy, and they like
it's not like he did all.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
This kind of stuff.

Speaker 8 (49:44):
Then they had great ownership in the past. But it's
a lot like what Clay Bennett did the Seattle I mean,
it's just like, look, we're just going to take this team,
and you and I have this conversation all the time.
Fans are under the impression, the wrong impression, that that
owners want to win, that they're all trying to win,
and they're not a lot of them are just trying
to treat it like business, and like any other business.
They have yet it's high profile, so they can go

(50:06):
to their friends and go, look, I own this team.
But John Fisher and most owners, most owners do not care.
They care about the profits, they care about the business,
they care about. If they get a better opportunity in
another city, they're gone.

Speaker 4 (50:18):
But the problem with.

Speaker 8 (50:19):
Las Vegas is number one, it's not a big, big market,
and number two, they don't want them. And so there's
a big push and pull here. But to just go
back to your point of baseball, they didn't just they
didn't just get out of Oakland and moved to Sacramento.
They unanimously voted this. All the owners unanimously voted that
the A's could leave and have no home because they

(50:40):
don't want anyone telling them what to do and not do.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
With their franchise. Right, They're all the same.

Speaker 8 (50:45):
They're all like, well, if it comes down to me
and I don't get the stadium deal, and even though
I'm a multi multi, multi multi billionaire, I want the
fans to pay for it. So if they won't pay
for my stadium, I'm out and I don't want anybody
to stop me. So I'm going to vote for the
A's to be able to do it the hell they want.
They're homeless right now. On all the owners said, yeah,
that sounds good to me.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
What yeah, what happened?

Speaker 8 (51:07):
Well all of us not to go on a ran there,
but all of our sports have done. That is where
owners executives players. It's one two three me. It's my team,
it's my image, it's my brand, it's my you know,
everybody is out to be like you know that, who's
watching the sport?

Speaker 4 (51:23):
No watching the sport.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
I'll say, the only way you stop it because yeah,
there's no owner that's going to vote against that, because
they want to have the John lung By the way
joining us John London leash, but the only you know
way that they every owner wants to have that flexibility,
like ninety nine percent of would never use it to
to you know, flex their muscles. We're gonna move, we're
gonna do this, we're gonna do that. The only time
it didn't happen was you know, the late David Stern,

(51:45):
who when I say his name up here, it's like people,
I mean, he's he's he's the devil himself along with
Clay Benton and Howard Schultz and everybody else. But you know,
he stopped the Sacramento Kings from moving here, and he
saw it like he stepped in and said, you know,
to hell with what the rest of the owners. This is,
I'm running this league. And that's why the Kings didn't
end up here. And you know, because they were here,

(52:07):
they were on their way. It was a done deal.
Is one of the first ever wog by the.

Speaker 8 (52:10):
Way, they should have their ownership right now because their
main owner, Vvack randondave is he was a part owner
of the Warriors and he is a dumpster fire.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Isn't he the guy that wanted to have like the
three on through who wanted to have like you can't
cross mid corm player can't cross like he wanted. He
wanted to have the NBA turned into Cyo Basketball or something.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
Yeah, yeah, well he's we were just talking about the A's.

Speaker 8 (52:32):
He's the one who said to the A's, hey, I'll
put all the renovations to the state because he thinks
that it's.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
Not going to go through, that they're never going to
make the Vegas and.

Speaker 8 (52:39):
He's going to try to make sacram Meno a major
league town and they can't even get you know, eight
thousand fans out to a major League game against the
Cubs and the third game they've ever played up there,
So I mean that should have happened. I mean, yeah,
I agree with you on David Stern. I mean, look,
this is old ground, and you guys know what I mean.
The Sonic should have never left. Why the hell are
they in palled the city? And then in terms of
like Sacramento, that team's been a dumpster fire forever, even

(53:02):
though that's a good fan base and they don't deserve
to lose their team, and you don't want to play
that game, you don't want to start doing it. But no,
you know, you guys know this better than I do.
I mean, there's no way that Seattle shouldn't have a team.
And I got to imagine what the next five years
it probably attle In Las Vegas.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Two to the teams right two.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
To three, they're waiting. They're waiting on a building in Vegas,
to be honest, I mean, that's the big they're the
vague in the Vegas. They're not going to play in
the hockey Arena. And I can play a team mobile,
So that's what they're waiting on. That's why that's going
to get done. I mean that's that's ahead of schedule
compared well, that's ahead of the pecking order before the
baseball stadium, which is not going to fit in the
footprint they wanted to fit in. It's just it's just
ridiculously down there.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (53:36):
But in Portland. Now, put the A's in Portland.

Speaker 4 (53:39):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
They support it a heartbeat, and all of a sudden
you have a rival up here. I mean, I want
them to go back to Olkla be amazing, you know,
which sounds like that's not ever going to happen if
that's not going to happen in Portland and make it
a real rivalry. I mean, it'd be fun, it'd be good.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 8 (53:52):
I mean the fact that it was so fun to
have the Blazers and the Sonics and.

Speaker 4 (53:55):
Both of you, you and I were both a part
of that.

Speaker 8 (53:57):
And to put them up there, and I believe I
agree with one hundred percent Portland is is can be
a hardcore sports town and and I think it would
be an amazing rivalry. And you know, I think, look,
I think when the NBA comes back, it's gonna be great.
And I think Lebron's going to be part of the
Las Vegas He's like the Las Vegas Floppers or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (54:14):
You know they're gonna do that kind of stuff. I
ever seen a two hundred and sixty.

Speaker 8 (54:17):
Pound man that's made out of a brick fall further
being touched than that guy. But you know, don't don't
get me goat stuff when he's flying off the court
by being touched.

Speaker 4 (54:25):
I mean I could, I could blow him over.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
I mean, come on, you know this. You know, Bronni
will be a starter day one, in that first game
for Vegas. Bronnie will be starting. He'll be the starting lineup.
You're right, Bronn will be starting.

Speaker 8 (54:36):
Draft He'll be the first pick of the expansion draft and.

Speaker 4 (54:39):
They'll be starting.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
Oh god, hey, speaking of the John Lone, John Lone,
at least Jo speaking the NBA, are are our friends?
The Nuggets going to do us a favor up here
and knockout Oklahoma City?

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (54:50):
Okay, I mean I know I got the first one.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
But you know what's amazing about that? And I was
talking about this morning.

Speaker 8 (54:55):
Because the Warriors had to play seven games against the Rockets,
they got a turn around forty eight hours later as
an old team.

Speaker 4 (55:00):
And take on Minnesota tonight. So it's one of those
built in losses at least to me, which.

Speaker 8 (55:04):
Means they're gonna win because I'm terrible predicting.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
Games against me.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Absolutely, But that's what people don't understand. Denver had to
go to seven games against Clippers, turn around forty eight
hours later and play an Oklahoma City team, and there
they kind of kept him within arms light all night
and Aaron Gordon hit that shot to win that game
and all of Seattle cheered. But you know, it's it's
amazing what veterans do. I mean, I don't care what
sport it is, you have veterans on your team. The

(55:32):
Nuggets have won a championship. They walk into that building
and gets a really young Oklahoma City team. It's never really,
I mean, went to last time, Oklahoma City is your
face adversity?

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Never?

Speaker 8 (55:41):
Yeah, So all of a sudden, you know you're in
a close game late and Denver win your game. So yeah,
I mean, I think Denver is a great shot because
Oklahoma City said they're going, wait a minute, we've been resting.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
They just got off a seven.

Speaker 8 (55:50):
Game series and they came into our place and won
what that's that's tough for a young team to deal with.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
Well, we just we got it needs to happen. We
can't just every game that happens. And then they know
the last championship for these guys was nineteen No, it
was not nineteen seventy nine. You guys did like you
start over.

Speaker 4 (56:08):
That's not your team. I know that's not your team.
It's just mad that was.

Speaker 8 (56:13):
That was Freddie Brown and Dennis Johnson. Yeah, my money sick,
but like that that ain't that's like I didn't see them.

Speaker 4 (56:19):
Emberre your colors.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
My favorite, my favorite thing is I just saw another
podcast the other day with Gary Payton, who's never met
a microphone. He doesn't love GP. I love you, and
he's telling something he's telling somebody goes, he goes, yeah, man,
there's no way I'm gonna let him hang my jersey.
He said it again. He's been saying this for like
seven years. I'm never gonna let him hang my jersey
up in Oklahoma City. That'd be a disrespectful. Yeah, dude,
they're not wanting to hang your jersey. You know, club
the city. I love you, glove, I love you to death.

(56:44):
But that's never I don't think that's ever even been
brought up. It's like, hey, man, remember how great Gary
Payton was for us back at Oh wait, that's right.
He didn't play here. No, but he's man, he's gonna
he's gonna go. He's gonna die on that one. He's like, man,
no way, I'm not letting him do it. Man, I
ain't letting him do it in no way. Me and
Sean are going in together. Me and Sean are going
together in the new building when that Sonics come back. Well, sure,
you're right. Problem is the GPS and be knocking on

(57:05):
the road going, hey man, I should be the GM too. No, no,
you shouldn't.

Speaker 4 (57:08):
Oh my god, you imagine my god.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Oh definitely it would be awesome. It'd be awesome. Yeah
that So, So, who's a favorite in the West now
in the in the NBA? Is it Minnesota?

Speaker 8 (57:23):
Minnesota's gonna be really hard. They're gonna be really tough
on these guys. You know, there's there's teams and you
know this. You guys have covered the NBA for years.
There's eighty two game teams and that's what Oklahoma City has.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Lots of depth, all that kind of stuff. But you
got to have.

Speaker 8 (57:34):
Minnesota is a sixteen sprint team. The Warriors are a
sixteen sprint team. Those thinking Denver is where it's like,
you know, you just don't want to see him in
a series, But yeah, this is gonna be a knockdown,
drag out seven game kind of a deal. And I
think and Anthony Edwards he's so good. I mean, you
hate the guy, he's kind of a trash talker and
everything like that, but he backs it up.

Speaker 4 (57:51):
That dude's really.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Good, joking, really good. Joker doesn't have the supporting cast
in Denver that he had a couple of years ago, right,
but buddies, but they have enough high end town with
the top two or three guys, right that SI like
in a small like you said, eighty two games is
different than a seven game series.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yeah, totally yeah.

Speaker 8 (58:07):
I mean, look, I'm not going to count Denver up
because Jokic is that good and for a lot of
these guys, and again you know this.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
And so do your listeners.

Speaker 8 (58:14):
It's about, you know, a superstar player. And you and
I covered these series, the Jazz and Jordan and the
Sonics and you know, Kemp and Peyton and all that
and everybody remembers.

Speaker 4 (58:22):
This stuff where Jordan would kind of sit back and be.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
Like, hey, let's get other guys involved, Let's get the
in confidence because you know what, at any point, I
can do it.

Speaker 4 (58:28):
I can score any time.

Speaker 8 (58:30):
And so you look at Denver for example, when they
get Jokic moving the ball and other guys get confident,
then he can get his anytime. Anthony Edwards is like that,
like when you have superstar players like that that kind
of get him, get the confidence of other players early
in the game and they get going, and then all
of a sudden, then they can get going on top
of that anytime they want.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
That's when you're really dangerous.

Speaker 8 (58:47):
And that's where Jokic just he's unbelievable because he's like,
I'll get mine at key point, but right now, I
got to get Murray hot, and I gotta get Gordon hot.
I got to get these guys confident around me. So yeah,
I look at them and I think or they're not
very deep. But again you look into the playoffs, teams
are going like seven eight.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
That's that's as deep as are going.

Speaker 8 (59:05):
You know, Steph Curry in that game seven against Houston,
even in his age at thirty seven. He played forty
five minutes. You see your curs like that. I don't
trust these dudes, like you're playing.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
You gotta play because your thumb broken doesn't matter. You're playing, dude,
you're playing exactly.

Speaker 4 (59:19):
Don't care about that sou I'm just dude. If I'm
going down, I'm going down with my you know, my
top guns.

Speaker 8 (59:23):
I'm not going down an either way, you got dictated
how you're gonna get beat or you get beat. So yeah, yeah,
I mean the playoffs, the further they go along, the
more minutes these dudes play, and because it's again, that's
like that in every sport. Look, if I'm gonna go down,
I'm not going down with you know, my ninth guy
off the bend.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
That's not happening.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
I like your confidence. So that Oklahoma cy is gonna
get knocked out somewhere along the way. We need that
up there. We need something, dude.

Speaker 8 (59:42):
They got punched in the face last night, and that's
that's devas a.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Young team like that.

Speaker 8 (59:46):
Yeah, they're like, wait a minute, they just played a
game seven and we lost them on our home court.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Like that, like how and how we lost too? Yeah,
so that's good all right, yeah, exactly, John lens unleashed.
I hear we got one or two of our folks
up here in Seattle that have tuned in to hear
all your your whatever you got going on every morning
at eight o'clock.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:00:05):
No, it's good eight am every day Monday through Friday,
ten am about Saturdays, and then you know, I do
a bunch of post games and stuff. But we've gotten
a lot of people through our conversations to come in
Seattle and talk in trash and like I said, I
say this every single show. It's it's great man. You
know me, I don't know anything. I just I'm just
the leader of the circus. And so when people come
in with different stuff, I'm like, oh, that's a good point.
I'm easily swayed. That's a good point. Yeah, yeah, I

(01:00:26):
thought I knew everything. That's a good point. So lots
of people coming in from Seattle, and it's really cool.
It's really cool because I always stayed up in Seattle
sports and I'm a big you know, I'm a big
fan of the fans up there. I got our mad
respect for him because of our days and you know,
against the Niners and everything. So it's it's always a
lot of fun to have to jump in.

Speaker 4 (01:00:42):
So it's cool.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Well it's WES. You're very West coast space, which is
good as well. And I just wish when I jump
the Instagram, I don't think you see the Instagram messages
because I jump in there all the time and give
you a hard time and you just ignore them. Either
either you see him and ignore them or you just
just don't see him. When you say you want feedback.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
I think all the time.

Speaker 8 (01:00:58):
You know this business, you know this busines. If you
if you respond to the trolls, then they just never stopped.
And you know you're kind of an Instagram troll. So
I just I just don't even don't even respond to a.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Lot of Man, I'm better than a troll. I'm your
old friend.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Yeah you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
John Linn, Then least go subscribe wherever you get all
your Basically, if he's on Instagram, Twitter, all those places, YouTube,
you can see it. He'll be raving about the Warriors
win tonight because he just said they're gonna lose. You
know they're gonna win. Head up to Stow, call me
casino and get get some juice on that one right now.
So go opposite line. I'll talk to you next week.
Thanks brother John lone four nine four to five one
is a text line. We'll get those texts coming up.

Speaker 7 (01:01:32):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:01):
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Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
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Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
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Speaker 8 (01:02:31):
By line by line, and did it be in here?

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:36):
The instruction say voice your.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
Own What does voice your own?

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
That means voice your own show?

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
So just read that line, the one with your name.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
So I figured it was you are lame.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
We're trying to make you sound original. I saw that
in the reflection.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
That's the best thing he might have. He might have
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see it. But there's a reflection in the glass between us.

Speaker 3 (01:03:03):
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I don't understand I had you recorded chucking buck this morning,
Mark James recorded it. No one had a question batter
than I. He goes and I just told him exactly
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Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
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hear like a little play like a liner. Do we
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Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
Yeah, hold on one second, I'll like your perfect one.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
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Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
Earth here there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
That would be awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
Yeah, hold on, I have to download him because I
didn't even have to edit that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
So what we're doing is we all have to we
have to voice these things that you hear on the radio.
We're giving a little sheet. You go in, there's a microphone,
you turn it on and you say whatever would be.
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Speaker 3 (01:03:45):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
But these ones you do yeah, so you're telling me
one person had an issue on how to do it,
and guess we're all stunned.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
I think so I have a theory on softies because
he's in the he's always remote, which is great. You know.
We we like him being out and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
About, we like him not being Here's what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
I was being kind about that anyway. Yeah, so uh yeah, No,
I think that Tuesdays are his Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:12):
It's the first time he gets to annoy everybody in person.
So this is what it sounds like.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
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Speaker 3 (01:04:19):
Right, like you say that every single day at the
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Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
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about this. I even did it right when I said Huskies.
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Speaker 3 (01:04:41):
You didn't say Fuskies.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
No, I didn't say that just to yes. Anyway, he'll
be frazzled by the time he comes back in here
in a second. All right, let's get you.

Speaker 3 (01:04:49):
Was just trying to start cross talk early.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
He just wants to be again. Does he not have
a producer?

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
He does, but I would save that man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I just looked at Jackson. I just glanced Hi through
the window. He can't hear me. I think it's on
the layout there, like yeah, He's like, uh, okay, what
we got here? Let's see when the ceiling tiles fell
in the Kingdom in ninety four, the Mariners were forced
to play all their games on the road till to
strike hit because Cheney Stadium wasn't considered a major League ballpark.
Genie Stadium is much nicer than that hole they played
in last night. That's John for An here. Yeah, I mean, well,

(01:05:20):
Chene Steatum now is. I'm not sure then it wasn't
quite as nice, but still yeah, the point taking you're right, John,
one hundred percent. I'm with you there. Oh, let's see
NFL a lot the Cardinals playing in Sundeville Stadium for decades,
Well like that stadium Arizona State. It's legit was legit
and they just remodeled it. But I I covered a
Seahawk game there in Sundevil Stadium when they first moved

(01:05:41):
the team there, and first moved the Cardinals there, and
it was NFL at the time capable and probably still
is most college, most power for conference college stadiums would
be fine for the NFL.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, I covered well, I went there every other year
for over a decade and I was you know, I
did six games there. Yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Oh, we had the Colisseum for the DRAMs for a
few years. That was not by the way, that the
Colisseum was not NFL capable, but they had ground broken
in Inglewood, so it didn't really matter. They were they
were building a stadium there, so and then they actually
did remodel it and now it's pretty nice Colisseum. Right,
it was last time you were there a couple years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
I was there. I forget what year it was, but
I did see it while it was being remodeled. I
haven't seen the finished product.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Say you if you haven't gotten People ask me all
the time about going to the NFL's teams on the
West Coast. If you if the Huskies are playing at
USC and you haven't been there, I would go to
the Colosseum.

Speaker 3 (01:06:39):
Oh, it is legendary.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
I mean, just just because it's you know, the Olympics
and and everything everything about it. Yeah, I mean they've
remodeled it now so it's a lot nicer than it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:46):
Was, but it still has the Colisseum.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
It still has a Colosseum feel with a newer, a
newer element. But yeah, I like going there. It was
kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
Rosbelt is the other one. Like if you're like, those
are two that I didn't know would be so breathtaking
to me. Where I walked in, I went.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
Oh, two o six. If the Marriags don't make it
to the World Series, please let it be the athleticsally
have to play some of the games that Minor League
Paul Park. I actually found myself rooting for them hard now,
like I love them to make them. I'd love them
to make the playoffs and have that happen. I just
I would love, but I'd love Major League Baseball to
have to figure out how you're gonna play playoff games
there we like, for example, like if the Marriers play

(01:07:23):
a playoff game, or when they had the All Star
Game here, the way they constructed when they redid Team Mobile,
which a lot of stadiums do. This isn't just a
shot at the baseball team. It's not it's just reality.
Because the Seahawks did the same thing they compacted they
made they squeezed the press box down yep. So it's
very limited seeding in there. Well, if you have a
playoff game and you got people from all across the country.

(01:07:43):
So like the All Star Game, we all went out
to the hit It Here cafe yep, right, which I
guess I have to do that here again. They don't
have a hited Here cafe in Oakland, so I'm rooting
for them. If the Mirrors don't make it, let it
be Oakland. That will be awesome. Go have a fun
time everybody covering that game there.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
I it will shine a light on the incompetency of
Major League Baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Two F three. One thing you don't know yet, but
we'll soon figure out. Oklahoma City is cursed, will never
win a championship. I don't know if they are, man,
it feels like they've They've been close, right, they've been close,
But it scares when they're cana get over the top.
You're spot on Ian. It's deplorable how MLB allows the

(01:08:27):
owners to use their found fan bases and extort the
mid times. That being said, I've chosen to support our
boys in this year's quest for the playoff, maybe the division,
but we'll still loathe Chris Larson, John Stanton, every MLB
owner like them. But come on, boys, let's go MS.
I like that. I've mentioned this before. This is a

(01:08:47):
this is a time where you have to separate church
and state and the team is owned by billionaires. That's fine,
it is what it is. Every team is. You may
not like Stanton or Larson or who else they bring
on board, but that I hope that doesn't deter from
your enjoying of the games as a fan. I'll read
this one forty five. Will this be the last year?

(01:09:09):
Mayor golf term at Drewis buzzes is going to be developed.
There's buzz that they're trying to do that at Druids.
There's been buzz since it opened. My understanding from talking
to people that have worked there in the past, it
would be very challenging and years away from having the
golf course developed into housing development, so hopefully not. There's

(01:09:32):
we live in a world of social media. Somebody posted
some plans on Facebook and everyone's like, oh my god,
they're closing the course down. I talked to some people.
They said nothing certain. It would be years away. There's
all kinds of the county would have to approve something
they'd never approved before. It's a long the short most
people don't care. I'm just saying that I don't think
this is our last mayor at Drewid's. I hope not.
I pray to God it's not. We have enough housing

(01:09:54):
out in southeast King County. You don't need to destroy
yet another golf course. So hopefully that's the case, and
hopefully the county is the right thing. They've never allowed
houses in that area of unincorporated King County, and if
they changed their mind now, then we get bigger issues
with well, we got issues with politicians anyway, So hopefully
not so hopefully not.

Speaker 3 (01:10:12):
For five for fun, I had a cross talk here
with Softy. Uh. He sent me the files that I
asked him to record, and they were labeled three words.
I'd love to know what people think he labeled a
file on a professional email to me.

Speaker 2 (01:10:30):
So the three words text them in three words? How
did Softy send an email? What was it in the subject?
Is in the subject?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
It was what the file was labeled? So obviously when
I send that into corporate, I'm going to have.

Speaker 6 (01:10:41):
To change it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Fire that away. Let's go four nine four five one.
What did Softy say? What were the three words Softy
used to send direct me? Directed the jests after he
had to do what the rest of us had to do,
which is just foice.

Speaker 3 (01:10:52):
Me and took about sixty seconds.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
Just not that hard. Okay, he'll join us. Next is
he's still taping his stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:11:10):
I got him and I was correct and having to
heavily edit.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
Did you already edit everything?

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:11:17):
I knew I had to listen to that closely, and
that was a good choice.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
So soft we asked the listeners. Jessamine did oh. She
said that you sent the file to her for all
your liners? Correct?

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
And she said there's nothing sacred around here. Well, no,
nothing sacred.

Speaker 3 (01:11:39):
Recorded it and put it on a company email.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
And she said, what were the three words in the
subject line that Softy wrote? Do you want to hear
some of the responses?

Speaker 3 (01:11:48):
David, someone got it right. I'll tell you there's one
person that guessed it right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:51):
I got a second, Hang on, just a second. It
was not the subject line of the email.

Speaker 4 (01:11:57):
File.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
Okay, correct? So I told him five three soft, He said,
I love ducks. Is that it? Nope? Damn you, Jess.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
You know it's funny. I've never even had duck like
peaking duck, or never even tried to surprise you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Just no, no, did not say suck at Jess.

Speaker 3 (01:12:15):
No, I mean it wasn't a part of it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
Okay, okay, cut that. I'm an idiot. Nope, that was
not on there. That's the koogs. I can't read that one.

Speaker 6 (01:12:26):
Keep going. Read the ones you can't read, No, can't.
Those are the ones we should do a podcast when
the show's over, of all the stuff we can't do
on the air, Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:12:35):
We should.

Speaker 3 (01:12:36):
We made more money than we earn here.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
You want to see which ones? I like that one?
That one's good. Yeah, I can't say that. Yeah, I
can't say that now? Is this?

Speaker 6 (01:12:46):
Is this person here for the three six?

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (01:12:48):
Is that a entry for your contest or is that
a commentary on this segment?

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
I think it's come in the show. This is stupid
just coming to the show. Yeah, I love you yourself?
Yeah's actually a whole bunch of those half fast work.

Speaker 3 (01:13:02):
There are a lot of people that wrote I love you.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
Is there kiss my ass on there anywhere there was
Nick Nick next the big way.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Yeah, let's see, Oh Nick was what he was the
right one?

Speaker 3 (01:13:13):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
What was it again?

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
Kiss my patuity, kiss.

Speaker 6 (01:13:16):
My ass, kiss my big fat, hairy jewish took us.
See kiss it now? Apparently nothing is sacred here in
this building. Six hate my job.

Speaker 2 (01:13:29):
That wasn't what Zofti wrote deesk with Jeff wrote back,
I think I would.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Take that every day when I wake up in the
morning and I realize I have to go to work. Yes,
I hate my job.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Actually, I wrote back.

Speaker 6 (01:13:38):
No, I love my job.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
I love my job.

Speaker 6 (01:13:41):
This is not really a job, though. Do you think
that this is like, especially for you now that you're
not doing hockey because in season's over. Yeah, is this
like what normal people would look at and call semi retirement? Yes, okay, yeah,
that's what we've been doing for the last basically twenty
five years. I mean, yeah, You've got portions of the

(01:14:01):
year used to be football, like football winters, spring for you,
right whatever with hockey, and I'm not much busier during
the fall. But let's face it, for both of us,
for eight nine months out of the year, we are
semi retired.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
But actually looking at it this way, you and I
are actually doing stuff other times of the year. What
are the other like? What the morning show? Nothing, mid
day show, they come and go nothing, just as sidelines
for the cougs. You're doing husky stuff. I'm doing doing
the hockey stuff about nine months a year. I actually,
you know, I woke up this morning I thought for

(01:14:34):
some reason, like do we have a game tonight? Yeah,
kind of like, yeah, I've done that. I've done that
on a Saturday. Wake up and think I got to
be somewhere. But yeah, I mean, you know, I keep
talking to my wife. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:45):
You know, you get to this age and you're thinking about, like, God,
how much longer do I do this for? What's the story?

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
Haven't you looked into that?

Speaker 6 (01:14:52):
I have? No, I have, Yeah, of course, because you're
like eighty. I mean you better have looked.

Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
At you right. If I was eighty, No way you'd
be looking here out semi retired.

Speaker 6 (01:15:01):
So Gina's perspective has always been, as long as they're
paying yet you're not quitting. Okay, as long as they
pay it to do that stupid job.

Speaker 2 (01:15:10):
But but sometimes all you do is just half ass
it all day long.

Speaker 6 (01:15:14):
You goof around all morning long, you don't do anything.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
We know you don't have it.

Speaker 6 (01:15:18):
You go hit golf balls, you take the dogs for walks,
you goof around the house like you know this morning.
I'll be honest with you, I was. I was working hard.
I was pressure washing the patio at my house, and
my neck is killing me. Now a person of I
think I have to leave and go get a massage
from somebody. You would like to rub.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
My neck, so a person of your stature doesn't hire
somebody to do that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:41):
You know, there's a certain satisfaction that's weird when you're
when you're hosing down the patio and you're like using
the pressure washer to like draw funny faces and stuff
right and saying your name and all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:52):
That okay, And it makes now it makes more sense.

Speaker 6 (01:15:55):
Drawing dirty pictures in the dirt with a pressure washer
and sending it to your buddies.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
My nephew hasn't. My nephew has a pressure washing business.
IM want to sen him your.

Speaker 6 (01:16:02):
I just drew a picture of boobs and the freaking dirt,
and a patty of DA.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
Would sound to leave that there in case Gina came home,
I would a thousand percent do that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:11):
I should have just said I would do that. I
just want to get the damn thing done.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Man.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
But there's a there's a certain name. Look, we do
hire some people for some jobs, but there's a certain
satisfaction that I find in doing some of that stuff yourself,
which is really code for my.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Wife makes me. I was gonna say she won't because
when I say that, she won't let me hire. I say, hey,
can't we just have somebody do that in the back
lawn and do this? We can do that.

Speaker 6 (01:16:34):
You haven't been to my house in a while. Actually,
have you ever been to my house?

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:16:36):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Yeah, well I was weird. I've never been invited. That's
not true. Are you sure?

Speaker 7 (01:16:40):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:16:42):
I never you my place, but the U I was
invited to your house one time, and it was not
by you, by the way, It was by your wife
for your birthday after the mayor last year. Oh, come
on over, we're gonna have cake. And I never made
it over.

Speaker 2 (01:16:54):
There, wen't get home and do some Let me just
say this, we didn't have cake.

Speaker 6 (01:16:56):
Are we doing it again this year? Friday night after
the mayor I'll tell Gina that I'm gonna have a
long night at the Fernesa's. We just get you, you
know what, I might get used to it and stay awhile,
or you can.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
How about I Tamy moves out, we can bunk?

Speaker 6 (01:17:10):
Is he still there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:11):
That lazy s o b He gets back in three weeks?

Speaker 6 (01:17:13):
Well, okay, tell him to find a place to live
on his own. He's like thirty.

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Now he's gonna graduate a couple of weeks and his
mommy wants them home.

Speaker 6 (01:17:20):
His mommy, his mom couldn't give a damn. His mom
wants to want some home. You guys have a dog, right?

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:17:25):
He died. He died. I told you that.

Speaker 6 (01:17:27):
Are you getting a new one? No? Okay, why I've
got we have three? You want one of ours?

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
I don't want to know our new carpeting. She wants
no dogs? Yeah, okay, Well what are we doing?

Speaker 6 (01:17:37):
What is today Tuesduesday? That means it's ay uh, it's
a Tuesday. It's a fun with audio Tuesday. It's John Wilner,
It's Brett Boone's gonna join us and talking about why
he's quitting the radio station to become the new Rangers
hitting coach. By the way, they played today at four
o'clock in Boston, So you'll join us from Fenway Park.
Gary Kubiak, you know that named Gary Kubiak. Father is
Clint former Broncos head coach, super Bowl winner back at

(01:17:59):
the correct. He will join us at three twenty on
the show to talk about his son and why he
thinks his son is the right man for this job.
And he's going to tell us how his kid is
going to use Jalen Milroe by the way, He's guaranteed it.
He's promised to give us the goods at three twenty
some inside information, wait to hear that. And then Brian
Schmittzer what joined at six pm?

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
We gotta go, all right. Kg R contained ninety nine
a month for all behind the scenes action. Keith Miller
is willing to pay for it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Man,

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