Furness Show 5-8: Rob Rang, Danny O'Neil, John Haarlow

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, So M's tonight in Chicago against the White Sox.
Hancock's on the mound. His name just resonates for a
lot of different reasons. A. He's been great. B. Bryce
Miller's back soon. Correct. So if you missed our conversation
with Ino Sarah's yesterday from the Athletic, he went down

(00:20):
the road like a lot of people have. I think
Greg talked about today, the six man rotation road, and
you know, it makes sense on a lot of levels.
The Castillo struggles when is when does the rock again
tomorrow or Sunday?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Saturday? I think it is tomorrow tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
I can actually tell you they sent the game notes out,
which would have wait for it the probables.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I know it's Hancock tonight, cast you tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Yeah, CASTI you tomorrow. Hancock's good tonight. Castille's not good tomorrow.
Then maybe it is the what did she and call
it the the Dodger vacation or.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Whatever it is?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Exacteah, yeah, or take a little time off arm soreness,
Arm soreness? Well, I mean the thing with the picture
is you can get away with like arm fatigue. Yeah,
And the problem is that one's that one's hard to
if you really want to try to sell that. As
you know told us yesterday, Castillo's velocity is fine. Yeah, usually,

(01:20):
like if you do have arm fatigue, it's an issue.
It's it's your velocity, and that's not the case right now. Like,
his velocity is.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
Fine, and it's one of those things where I think
the managers are going to talk to Castillo be like, hey,
do you how interested are you and still helping this
team go into the bullpen?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
If you are great? Awesome. I like the six man rotation.
I think that honestly benefits everyone the most.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
And he knows for people to kind of want to
push back on, I'll just give you what he sell,
parrot what he said I thought it was, and he
knows a hell a lot more about pitching than any
of us.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Yep, it's true.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
He said, unless you have a true, true one and
maybe a one and a one a like that are
just head and shoulders above everybody schoogle types. And how
many those guys are there?

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Like five or six?

Speaker 1 (02:02):
You might you mentioned two of them? Yeah, okay, Sales
got great high end pitching. Kirby's great woo at his
best is fantastic. Obviously, Walter is great. I mean, they've
got guys, but they don't have Paul Skins, they don't
have Trek Scoobele. And the only reason you don't do
a six man if you have the opportunity to, like
in this case, is because you want those guys going

(02:22):
every five days. You don't want to skip a day
with them. And so that would seem to make Two
things seem to make sense with Castilla, with with and
again it's all based on Bryce Miller being back soon.
Two things make sense. One six man rotation. See how
that goes for a week or two and two or
two he develops arm soreness, fatigue, forearm stiffness, whatever whatever

(02:43):
you know, Like hockey's got lower body and upper body injuries.
Pictures have fatigue, stiffness, soreness, what have you. And because
they're pictures and they're fragile with their arms, and that's
not a criticism, it's just a reality. You put them
on the aisle and he's out for two weeks, fifteen days,
whatever it is, and then you try to resettle on

(03:03):
the wave some bullpen sessions, maybe get him rehab assignment and.

Speaker 3 (03:06):
Honestly, maybe a little step back could help them. He's
made more starts than anyone else in this rotation the
last three years.

Speaker 2 (03:12):
So and he's when he's on, he's on. He's really good,
really good.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
And even though Julio has been better, even though you're
gonna get Donovan back, et cetera, this team's only is
going to go as far as the as their pitching goes.
They've been without one guy already and Bryce Miller. You
don't need to have another guy not be like all
of a sudden if you go from you could go
from six to four pretty quick. We saw those guys

(03:39):
all get banged up at one point last year, right
except for cast Deal.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Wasn't he healthy? Was the only one that was healthy
all year?

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, So maybe that's part of it too in a way.
You go, good problem to have, though, I mean, they've
got the depth in pitching. They've got six. Let's just
say they've got six. Not many people have. Not many
people have three or four. They got six. That's a
nice little problem to have. So Chicago this weekend, we'll
get to that all right, coming out, Rob Rang's going
to join us a little earlier than normal. Our NFL

(04:04):
Draft insider BC Lions scout for THECFL Fox Sports dot Com.
He was out at Seahawks mini camp with the rookies
on Saturday, so we'll get his impressions from last week.
Is kind of his final visit for a while, probably
with Rob and I don't sure we can milk much him.
We're out of him for a bit, but great to
have Rob on a little earlier than normal.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
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Speaker 1 (04:22):
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Speaker 4 (04:35):
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Speaker 1 (04:56):
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(05:17):
sports dot com also is a BC Lions scout, which
could come into play today with our conversation Rob, my friend,
how are you?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
I'm doing very well, sir, how are you?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
Were you out there on Saturday and your orange shirt?

Speaker 6 (05:30):
I was actively recruiting the players that maybe the Seahawks
didn't feel like we're the best fits for them, but
I was hoping that maybe some of those players might
be following me north because our mini campus starring this
week and training camp actually starts next.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Week in Camloops. I do believe place I've been too often.
I love Campoops, great little town up there. Well, let's
get to draft picks and then we'll talk about the
undrafted free agents, other guys there that might have caught
your eye first time you got to lay eyes personally,
and you know on on some of these draft picks.
Let's start first with your impressions. Again, there's not there's
no hitting, there's no contact, there's limited stuff that they

(06:09):
can do. But when you walked out there and laid
eyes for the first time on Jadarian Price, would you think.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
I thought this is the goods? I mean, he is.
He's as advertised as I expected.

Speaker 6 (06:22):
Uh, you know, I think he's just gonna be a
handing glove fit for the Seahawks and this wide zone offense,
as you said, and I mean, you know, you're not
going to be able to see the ability to bounce
off of contact, uh, you know, and some of the
other things they're critical to being a successful running back
in the NFL. But what you could do is you
could see the vision, you could see the quickness.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
You certainly could see his hands out of the backfield.
It's one of the reasons why I kind of scoffed
at the notion that jenari On Price doesn't have good
hands out of the backfield.

Speaker 5 (06:52):
I know that he didn't have very many.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
Catches at Notre Dame, but he was used as their
primary kick returner and I didn't see any drops during
his time at Notre Dame. And Brian Fleury, the new
offense coordinator for the Seahawks of course, used Christian McCaffrey
the forty nine ers as much as any running back
has ever been used as a pass catcher. McCaffrey had

(07:15):
seven touchdown receptions a year ago, leading all NFL running backs.
So there's no doubt that the Seahawks offense in twenty
twenty six is going to throw the ball a lot
to the running backs. And I thought that was one
of the years in which Price really excelled during Saturday's practice.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
Yeah, I think that was the thing. I'm just going
back to the draft. We can coverage with you and
he and myself as we're talking. I mean, you were
pretty adamant about that, and I thought it was a
good point, Like, you know, you're not you're not putting
a guy back there for kicks and be as a
return guy if you don't trust his hands. And I
just on Friday watching him a little bit, caught a
couple of screen passes and things like that. Looked very
comfortable doing it. I think it's just opportunities, right, That's

(07:52):
the only reason that we didn't see it before. You
just didn't have as many opportunities exactly.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
And that's the thing is that you know that's That's
what kind of goes with the line of being a
scout is you have to be able to, you know,
identify some of the skills that actually translate very well
to the NFL. And and and while the numbers weren't there,
necessarily the hand eye coordination, the focus, the ability to

(08:21):
gather a pass in bounce off of contact and never
allow the ball to be exposed to let it become
a pass breakup or a force fumble. Those things just
looked very natural to him on tape A. One of
the reasons why again kind of just scoffed at the
idea that he's not going to be an effective receiver
on the backfield.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know we didn't do a lot, but Bud Clark
was their second pick, second round number sixty four. Overall,
the safety out of TCU that could be a Kobe
Bryant replacement.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
He could be.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
And that's one of the things that was most intriguing
about him is just the way that I mean, just
the way that he moves. As you said, he and
both he and Enginedari and Price remain unsigned. Price I was
surprised as a first round selection that he still talked
his way onto the field as much as he did
or as Bud Clark was on the field oft times,

(09:12):
but he was not participating quite as much as Jadari
and Price, so that that was interesting to me. But
Bud Clark was there, his young son was there, and
just that that great smile, the enthusiasm interacting with his
new teammates. You can just see why Seattle kind of

(09:33):
fell in love with his personality. And then as far
as the tape, we've talked about this, you know, just
the ball skills that he possesses, the positional flexibility. You know,
he's six foot one, one hundred and eighty eight pounds,
and so you're always going to have some worries about
durability at the safety position, but he was durable at TCU.
He did drop down and play that nickel cornerback spot,

(09:53):
and he's got the movement skills to be able to do.

Speaker 5 (09:56):
That in the NFL as well. So, yeah, you're right.
I mean, there's a.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
There's a lot of the physical traits there that suggest
that he could be Kobe Bryant for Seattle. I think
that he actually in terms of his ball skills, he
might actually wind up being an upgrade.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, you were pretty adamant about that right during the draft.
You think this could be an upgrade. And you know,
we talked to Corbyn Smith yesterday, your partner on some
of the podcasts there, and you know he did, I
think the comparisons in terms of Kobe Bryant and Bud
Clark coming out of the UH And I'm sure you
guys talked about this and do this, but did the
comparisons of the two guys coming out of college and
how their testing grades were and it wasn't even close.

(10:33):
How much more athletic Bud Clark is.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Bud Clark is a better athlete, I mean just straight
line speed, you know, and obviously the ball skills again,
I mean the fifteen career interceptions. It's funny because you know,
people might remember, I mean, Kobe Bryant was the Thorpe
Award winner as the nation's best defensive back when he's
coming out of Cincinnati, and that's despite the fact that
he was playing opposite another corner, Sauce Gardner, who of

(10:56):
course had become an NFL All Pro safety and Brian
Cook who signed for big time dollars in free agency
this past season as well, So very talented secondary and
yet it was Kobe Bryant who wound up actually getting
the Big Time Award. But Bud Clark actually has better
ball skills, And I just think that's a really nice

(11:17):
fit in this defense because there are so many difference
makers already that now another guy who you know, kind
of mixing my sports analogies here but kind of plays
above the rim as well as he does. I just
think it's going to lead to an awful lot of
the splashy interceptions or tipped passes that lead to somebody
else getting interceptions. That is exactly what Mike McDonald has

(11:42):
helped create this defense all about.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
It is a rob rang brought to by Ferrelli's Pizza.
Joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. I'm gonna
lump all the corners together in a minute, so I
want to jump down their fifth round pick, which we
didn't think they would have as we're sitting there on
that Saturday, and they picked both Stevens, a guard out
of Iowa. When they made that pick, you were pretty
happy about it. You kind of said, hey, this is
a guy that you probably had ranked a little bit

(12:04):
higher than a fifth round pick. Overall, looked like he
was working on Friday when I was there last week
a week ago today, he was working at right guard
quite a bit. Where was he working when you saw him?
What'd you think about Bo Stevens?

Speaker 6 (12:17):
I liked him, and he was working exclusively at right
guard both on Friday when you were there Saturday when
I was there, I talked to well John Schneider himself
as well as some of the other scouts and kind
of talked not so much specifically with Schneider about Bo Stevens,
some of the other players at seele selected and kind
of some of their moves and the moves that they made,

(12:37):
the moves that they didn't.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
But with Stevens and what I like about him is just.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
How quick he is, which is funny because you know,
he didn't test very well and to Calmbine and the
ten yard split, the forty yard dashtime and none of
that was very impressive. But you know, it's almost like
you Darian Price and that he just knows where he's going.
This is a three year starter at IOWA. Two of
those years were at right guard, one of those years
is at left guard. You know, obviously he could compete

(13:07):
to be the primary backup, but He's not going to
be challenging Gray Zabel at left guard, but he certainly
could be challenging Anthony Bradford's the right guard spot. I
just think that his quickness may makes him quickness, instincts, awareness,
all those things make him a really nice fit in
the wide zone blocking system as a run and blocker.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
And then just how stout he is.

Speaker 6 (13:28):
He is broad, He is very physical with the point
of attack, and just a very aggressive player without being
overly aggressive. Some of the Christian Haynes, for example, Anthony
Bradford as well, sometimes they get a little bit too
far over their skis, so to speak, where they're lunging
at players, and that's why you see some of the

(13:48):
early misses. You don't see a lot of early misses
on bo Steve's taped. So I think that that consistency
is something that the offensive line coach John Benton will like,
and I could see that he liked it.

Speaker 5 (13:59):
Just during that first impression of the practice on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
I'm really curious when we get to like the when
the veterans come back in with the rookies, the OTAs,
but more importantly the June mini camp. I'm and then
obviously training camp in July and August. I'm curious with
Bo Stevens Rob to see if Bo Stevens is a
guy that ends up getting some reps at center right,
if it's a guy that, like, you know, does he
does he get some reps there as a backup to

(14:24):
to Jalen Sundell.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
I think it's a possibility.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I think that that Seattle still is probably uh, you know,
pretty high.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
In fact, I know that they're pretty high on ol
with Timmy.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
Federico Marengez is another center that without their actually rookie
mini camp because he didn't have a crude first season
with the NFL this past year, I thought that he
performed well. Also, I believe that Boa Stevens can play
that center role.

Speaker 5 (14:53):
I just don't know that Seattle feels like he needs to.

Speaker 6 (14:56):
I think if they have a more of a plan
of possibly challenging for that right guard starting role even
as a rookie and so, and I don't think he's
going to be handed anything. I think he's actually going
to probably start off at third on the depth chart,
behind Bradford and then probably behind Bryce cable Do as well,
and then kind of worked his way up, but I

(15:17):
do believe that he has the potential to start right guard,
where they think at best he would be your third
string center.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Let me ask you about Emmanuel Henderson Junior out of Kansas.
He's a sixth round pick hundred ninety ninth overall. Heard
a lot about him on draft day and since then
kind of and we talked about him a little bit
last week. He's a guy that you know, yes he's
a receiver, but maybe more of a special teams guy.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
What did you see from him? And he laid eyes
on Emmanuel Henderson.

Speaker 6 (15:44):
You know, to me he was one of the more
interesting of Seattle's rookies just because there there's some guys
just move at a different level.

Speaker 5 (15:51):
I mean, you can just see the instant.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
Explosive acceleration and he has that and so that's exciting,
you know. As you mentioned, and this is a former
running back that you know it had to make the
trend or made the transition to wide receiver. So I
didn't see any drops, but that is one thing I
do want to evaluate with him moving forward, because you're

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not gonna likely see them the all of the full
branches of the route tree, so to speak, with a
player like Henderson, He's going to basically be a vertical threats.
He's going to do some like drag routes across the
millle where his linear speed is going to be able
to to help him create big play opportunities. But it
is the fact that he is a well built player

(16:37):
at one hundred and eighty five pounds and you know
that former running back kind of frame, and then again
has that four.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
To three speed that you absolutely love.

Speaker 6 (16:45):
And then the special team's mentality that to me that
I didn't get a chance to watch a lot of
Jay Harvard and the special teams units, but I am
excited about what Emmanuel Henderson might be able to provide
the Seahawks as a gunner. You know, Drake Young coruses
one of the free agents that Seattle lost, but not
somebody that gets talked about a lot. But that gunner

(17:06):
position is going to be up for grabs. I do
think that Emmanuel Henderson has an opportunity to kind of
seize that role.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
Right now. It's going to be neam I.

Speaker 6 (17:14):
Pritchett, who is a good player in his own rights,
a quality gunner both as a on punt return or
may me punt defense and kick defense. But I want
to see if Seann is able to upgrade that position
with a younger, cheaper, faster player.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Rob I mentioned with with with Corbyn yesterday. When I
got out there on Friday, one of the guys that
just jumped out of me he was Devin Eastern. He
was a late pick two hundred and forty second overall,
seventh round pick, no stackle out of Minnesota. Kind of
looks like off brand Red Bryant to me, like just
big man, tall, tall, but also thick and big. Late pick,
seventh round, no guarantees, kind of a long shot in

(17:49):
some ways to make the roster. But boy, from a
physical standpoint, he jumps out at you.

Speaker 5 (17:54):
He certainly does.

Speaker 6 (17:55):
I mean, six foot five, he's, you know, three hundred
and twenty five pounds, got the thirty four inch arms.
I mean, he's like the kind of guy that you
want walking off the bus first, just to put an
impression in people's minds like this is are the way
the Seahawks are built. And so I think that just
that his size is the very first thing that you
kind of notice. And then one of the things I

(18:15):
really liked about his tape was just consistency. You know,
he is one of those guys that you very rarely
saw him move backward. He just resets the point of
attack and just kind of bottle or basically gums things
up and doesn't.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Allow anybody to get by him very much.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
And I think that that lends itself to almost playing
a Red Bryant role, not only at that noseguard position,
but outside as well. He can kind of move up
and down the line of scrimmage. I was impressed by
his initial quickness and his lateral Jilie.

Speaker 5 (18:47):
I spent a lot of.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Time watching the offensive and defensive lineman working out, and
I thought.

Speaker 5 (18:52):
That he was He performed very well for such a
big man.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
I did too, and I just kind of, you know,
off brand Red. Whatever he might be able to see
what training camp, preseason brings for him, I'll just love
them all together. Third round picked Julian Neil, seventh round
pick number one, Andre Fuller, seventh round pick number three,
Michael Dansby. All three corners of what jumped out at
you from those guys, just the.

Speaker 6 (19:15):
You know, the brashness first of Julian Neil, you know
he of course we heard about it during the draft
or heard from him during the draft itself, but just
the you know, he wanted to be out there as
many opportunities as he possibly could, So that's that's certainly encouraging.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Just his size as well.

Speaker 6 (19:33):
I mean, you're talking my guy who's sixty one to
two hundred pounds, and so he looks a little bit
more like a safety. And so his going up against
some of the wide receivers that Seattle have the camp,
he just kind of was able to almost cloak them
at the point of attack with just his length and
just the way that he was aggressive in getting up
in their face and not giving them much of an

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opportunity to even get off the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 5 (19:57):
So that was encouraging.

Speaker 6 (19:58):
I was really excited about just the with Andre Fuller,
just the awareness. That was one of the things that
stood out to me a little bit is that, you know,
there was some ups and downs with turning and locating
the football on his Toledo tape, but he did a
good job of that during camp. And then Michael Dansby,
just the athletic ability, I mean, his change of direction

(20:18):
was really impressive. There was one rep in particular whereas
he versus Emmanuel Henderson Junior, the receiver we talked about
from Kansas, and you know, the ball wasn't even thrown
their direction, but still it was impressive to see Dansby
stay hip to hip with Henderson again, another four to
three guy, you know, and and Dansby claims he ran

(20:39):
in the four twos, but you know, no scouts were
there at that workout because it was you know, he
wasn't able to work out during his pro dag due
to core injury, wasn't invited to the combine.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
So you know, I often say the proof is in
the pudding.

Speaker 6 (20:51):
The proof was in the putting in that particular play
where he again showed the cover skills, being able to
stick with Emmanuel Henderson the whole time.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
All Right, They did sign some guys from UNDRAPT did
free agents. A handful of those guys Aiden Hubbard, Northwestern,
Dn Levi Wentz, a wide receiver, Marvin Jones also kind
of an edge rusher. And there's other guys as well.
And I know you keep an eye on some of
those undrafted guys than one, two, three, four files eight
of them. I think they ended up signing any of
those guys jump out of you.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
Actually one of the biggest guys, Lucio sa Imlo six
foot three, three hundred and thirty pound nose guard from
Utah State. I think that he's just an interesting guy
and that, you know, for three hundred thirty pounds, clearly
that's more of your noseguard type.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Uh. And Brandon Peely I thought did a pretty nice
job a year ago.

Speaker 6 (21:38):
At the same time, I do think that that as
a position that Seattle is always looking to kind of
turn over, and I thought that he moved well for
a man of his size, So I thought that he
was impressive. I'll actually stick with Utah State because they
had a running back, Miles Davis. I believe it was
either number one or number zero actually, uh, you know,

(21:59):
but he had a couple of long runs that showed
off some awareness, some lateral agility, and at least good
I don't know if it's an elite, but good breakaway
speed to make some big kind of chunk plays. So
those are a couple of guys that stand out. You
mentioned Marvin Jones Junior. He's an interesting one because he's

(22:20):
got a heck of NFL bloodlines. I mean, his dad,
Marvin Jones was number four overall section by the New
York Jets. At the same time, I see traits, I
don't see a well rounded player at disappoint So to me,
he is one of those practice squad kind of a
guy's but somebody that is worth gambling on just because
of the arm lengths. He got thirty four inch arms,

(22:42):
He's six foot five, he's two hundred forty five pounds.
He's got quickness, he's got louder A Jiley, he's got
some power, He's got a lot of the traits that
you're looking for. But he is not as coordinated as
a couple of the players that that Seattle brought back.
They didn't have that accrued season yet. J gains to
me as a player who was on Seattle's roster a

(23:03):
year ago. Ian, but to me, he was easily the
best of the pass rushers. And then if I mentioned
some of the offensive lineman before, like a Bo Stevens,
to me, the best offensive lineman there was Logan Brown,
former five star recruit at Wisconsin, wound up finish up
his college career at Kansas, was on per sales practice
squad most of last season.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Ian.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
He feels like one of the players that is ready
to have take a big step forward.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
To me, he is a really intriguing.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
Tackle that nobody is talking about just yet, but they will,
and certainly my BC Lions will if he is somehow
ever available to us.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, yeah, I like that idea.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Here's the other thing with as you mentioned that, with
Logan Brown and Jones and other guys, you know, we
are gonna We mentioned it last week. I think we
are going to do a show at a Farelli's location
at some point, probably pre training camp during the summer.
I think it'd be fun to kind of go through guys,
the under the radar guys to watch, like the guys
you just mentioned, Gaines Brown, maybe guys like that that

(23:59):
could make some noise and it doesn't take us too
far back. It's just been a couple of years. Jalen
Sindell was one of those guys, right Rob that just
kind of flew under the radar screen, undrafted free agent
and all of a sudden now is a starting center
in an NFL Super Bowl champion tam Ship team exact.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
I love the fact that you mentioned Jalen Sundel because
that's exactly kind of the vibes I was getting there
with Logan Brown, and obviously, interior offensive line has been
a real bugaboo for the Seahawks for an awful long
time here, and offensive tackle is as locked down as
it gets with Charles Cross and Abe Lucas both you know,
signing multi year extensions still in their you know, hopefully

(24:33):
in their prime of their career. No one, I am
certainly not suggesting Logan Brown going to beat out either
Charles Cross, Abe Lucas or even uh Seaow's primary backup
at that position, at that swing tackle position in Josh Jones.
But I do think that that when you have a good, young,
talented tackles, uh that is one of the hardest things

(24:56):
to find in professional football, whether it be at the NFL,
the CFL, the UFL, We're all looking for talented young tackles.
Logan Brown's development to me is h It's something that
the Seahawks scouts are excited about, and it's certainly something
that offensive line coach John Benton is excited about and
should be proud of because he's he's played a role
in Logan Brown's development.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Great stuff, Rob, We'll talk again soon. Is always He's
always fun. You never know what I'm gonna give you
a call and get a Friday rob Rang hit. People
love him and I love hearing from you as well,
So let's do it again soon.

Speaker 5 (25:28):
Sounds good, buddy, looking forward to as always that.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Is Rob Rang.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Will take a break, come back with more. Wrap up
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Speaker 1 (25:56):
All right, welcome back in here.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
We are rolling along.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Uh, good stuff from Robb Rang. Love having rob on
throughout the year, so much fun.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Always gives a different perspective, scouts perspective, Scout's perspective.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
He's uh, he's out there cherry picking some dudes to
take up to the Cflcadian Football League. Yeah, that does
a great job with the BC Lions, and then good
for him along the way. I read the in the
commercial break, the Seth Wickersham story that Greg alluded to
earlier on ESPN dot com. Yeah, I think there's a
lot going on there. The the one thing thinking that

(26:37):
the NFL owners thinking they're going to get ten million
for the Seahawks. I understand that it's a billion, ten billion, yeh.
Keep saying it's just it's such an obscene number. Yeah,
and you know, the Broncos, as they pointed out, bought
by the Walmart group six four point sixty five in
twenty twenty two. Twenty twenty three, Commanders sold for six
point oh five. I don't know if you can really

(26:58):
compare other sports other than you know, because the Lakers
sold for ten billion. Lakers are Lakers, and the Yankees,
I mean, there's a handful of franchises are kind of
a different spectrum, ye, different, different atmosphere than anybody else.
The one name that I saw that he that I
hadn't seen before is Steve A. Pastopolis, whatever his name is.

(27:20):
The Canadian billionaire tried to buy the Commanders is a
potential buyer. They're not sure how real he is. That
one is the one that would make sense to me
for a couple of reasons. The Canadian market markets have
been important to a handful of teams, specifically Buffalo Eastern Canada,
the Seahawks in Western Canada for a long time. The

(27:42):
Seahawks actually maintained an office, a BC office. I don't
think it's there. I don't think they do that anymore,
maybe just because our world's gotten smaller with you know,
the ability to do zooms and all that kind of
scheff and all those things.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
So I don't think it.

Speaker 1 (27:55):
But there's always been a very strong interest in the
Seahawks north of the border. I do a weekly segment
with a TV slash radio slash podcast Donny and Dolly,
all through the football season, and we combine a lot
of hockey in the Kraken obviously now, but about eighty
percent of what we talk about is Seahawks. And because

(28:17):
there's a big interest up there, Greg Bell does a
thing with another show that's kind of a podcast only show,
but it's a big deal up there. They've kind of
torched their sports radio world, but he does stuff up
there with Sakaras and Price, which is also a big
show up there because of the Seahawks. A Canadian buying
a Canadian billionaire buying the Seahawks to me would make sense,

(28:37):
like that would make sense. You want local ownership. Doesn't
appear anybody local is stepping forward, but that local ownership
values like the market the area understands it and everything else,
whether it be BC, Alberta probably too. I mean Saskatchewan's
and Manitoba much smaller. But is that guy in BC
that you mentioned, say where he's from. Also, it's so

(29:01):
hard to like pinpoint where these owners are based because
they have like they have six houses, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:06):
It's like I mentioned Krocky the other day. I looked
up where he lived, and he has a house in Montana.
He has a house in la Is it, like.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
I think if you're at that level now, don't doesn't
everybody have a house in Montana on a yes, like
a lake, a lake in Montana somewhere right, God, how
Montana has changed. On a side note, And when I
was growing up, like that was just thought to be
a you know, not a hell hole, just kind of
a nouta's there. It's just a wasteland. Yeah, it's out
in the middle of you know. And now it's like,
you got money, man, you want to be living in

(29:33):
Montana on a lake, right, That's it.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
That's where the cash money is. Things have changed, they have. Hell.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Hell, when I grew up, nobody wanted to live in Ballard.
Now it's like you lived in ballor you're like, damn man,
you're living in Ballad off you. I grew up in
Queen Anne and then Magnolia. And I'm gonna tell you
right now, when we grew up and I say that now,
people go, oh, not the same. It was not the
same back then. Yes, Like people were like everyone wanted

(30:01):
to live in Mercer Island or Bellevue, Kirkland, Kirkland, damn
Hearing Kirkland. Yeah, things change over the years, but yeah,
it is an interesting story because I think and that
kind of goes back to what Greg and I are
talking about cross talk, the whole valuation thing. We numbers
are being just thrown out there for the NBA, for example,

(30:23):
just tossed out there eight nine ten million that I'm
gonna pay for that for an expansion franchise. Sure they will,
Sure they will. At some point. It doesn't fiscally make
any sense to do that. So it's you know, so,
what's that what's the we talked about on was it yesterday?

Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yesterday we talked about the World Cup ticket rices? What's
your drop dead number? Like, what's like how much too much?
How much is too much? Even if you're a billionaire.
At some point things are too much. We're not spending
that kind of money, and and and rightfully so, because
when you do spend that kind of money, guess what happens.
It gets passed down to wait for it the consumer.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
So it happens.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
So we'll see what we'll see. It is an interesting
thing because I heard wits it yesterday again with Softy
and Dick, and I thought he had a great point,
like there's only so many teams that are for sale
or you could be bought and things like that. There's
only so many teams out there, and there's a list
of people that people want in the club. But like, hey,
I'd like to join a country club at what price? Nope,

(31:32):
I'm out, Yeah, exactly right. Washington Athletic Club be kind
of cool to go hang out there every now and then.
At what price?

Speaker 2 (31:39):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
You want to join the club? Great, it's gonna cost
ten billion.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
I'm out.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, I'm good. Yeah, I'll go back to my cabin.
And that looks like a mansion. It's on a lake
in Montana. That's what I'll do. All right, we'll take
a break, we'll come back, let's reset the out we've
got to do it. We have a Mariner roster move
we'll give you in just a couple so we'll get
to that and how that affects what's going on this weekend,
So stand by for that. Danny O'Neil joins us at

(32:06):
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(32:38):
That's according to an article by ESPN dot com. Fol
schedule is announced next Thursday. Tell me what happened in soccer?
Two guys gotten fights two days in a row. One
guy ended up with a gash in his head and
ended up having like some sort of head trauma injury.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
So is that bad? That's pretty bad.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
I think they probably got his head slammed against a
wall or.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Table or something. Okay, that's good. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Two teammates, by the way, Sounders tomorrow taking on San
Diego seven thirty Loominfield will have that game for you
right here. Jackson Feltz will get things going. He'll be
all revved up, ready to go, absolutely fired up tonight tonight.
If you want to see a Michael Benton sighting, pretty
good chance he'll be at the Angel the Wins Arena
Game one WHL Final Series, Championship Series Everage Silver Tips

(33:25):
taken on the Prince Albert in a Can Raiders. That's
at seven o'clock tonight, Angel the Wins. Everett was just
phenomenal this season. Not fits you, he was good too,
but the Silver Tips are really good. They they'll take
on probably the two best teams PA and Everett tonight
again seven o'clock game time. If you're a cracking fan,
Julius Mietnen is probably the best player for Everett.

Speaker 2 (33:47):
He is our center.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Where's number seventeen, the finish player, really good player.

Speaker 2 (33:51):
Good for them.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Where you go back in prospect cracking prospect fire away.
He was a second round pick two years ago. Yeah,
two years ago, twenty twenty four. Okay, let's see what
else to get you. Oh, WNBA starts tonight.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
It does. Sorry I missed that.

Speaker 1 (34:05):
Stormer at home taking on Golden State, the first in
there push for the Juju Watkins Sweepstakes. Yeah, they're gonna
take a little step back this season. But you know what,
fan will be on the call on TV. It'll sound gray,
this is on with him. He'll she'll be great too.
Away we go with that and Husky fans, I'll wait

(34:26):
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you that you may not like. Am I smiling not
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
Before I get to the college football stuf, Danie Neil
by the way, at one twenty today, just real quick,
Donovan comes back.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
PARTA goes down. Not a surprise. Have we seen a
lineup yet?

Speaker 9 (35:00):
No?

Speaker 3 (35:00):
But I assume Donovan is going to be in it,
and they wouldn't have put him back in the roster
leading off.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Yeah, yeah, keep an eye on that.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
For me, Well, that's only that's only to me. That's
the only thing that matters right now, is like, is
he leading off JP? Go back to nine? What happens there?
Cole Young hit? What sixth the other day or something
like that? I like seeing him up.

Speaker 2 (35:18):
Do you have a lineup one minute ago?

Speaker 3 (35:19):
Brendan Donovan is leading off, Cal Rawly second, Julio third,
Naylor fourth, Raise a Rose rain of fifth, JP, Crawford sixth,
Luke Rayley seventh, dom Canzone eighth and Cole Young nine
hitter back to the nine. Why uh, he was having
more success at the bottom of the order, I will say.

(35:40):
And with Brendon Donovan back, you do feel like the
this is a pretty strong lineup.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Strong line up. Yeah, no complaints, I'm not line.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
Up, no no, And I think Cole Young like, there's
a reason why he was having success at the bottom
of the lineup. And you know he struggled a little
bit when they moved him up, So let's move back
down where he was doing well.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
God, Softy's right, This stupid thing they put in our studio.
I've just smat did you say, have you sat here yet?

Speaker 6 (36:02):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (36:02):
I have.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
It's awful. I did it during a crack and broadcast.
It sucks because they have to like then move all
the way to the left, but then the mic doesn't
reach all the way that way, so you're like kind
of leaning all the way over there.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
Small things we worry about. I know, right, first problem.
So how's the Big ten treating everybody?

Speaker 4 (36:19):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
Boy, you're gonna get into this now, well just a
little bit, okay?

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Yes, am I jealous because I'd rather have Lazoo in
the Big Ten or Power Conference one hundred percent. I'm
not gonna lie to you like a hundred yes.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Keeping in mind God, Fox thirteen. I had to almost
call these guys other day. They did this whole story.
The payout from the Big Ten this year came out.
Everyone made seventy million dout. No they didn't, No, they didn't. Washington,
Oregon are still half shure. So and there's a I
think Chun's talked about this with Softy. If I'm not mistaken. God,
I just say his name on the air for the

(36:51):
first time in three.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Days he really did. Anyway, It's it's a battle, right it.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It's a battle because finances from a fan standpoint, how
much do you care? I don't know about I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Friday night game.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Well, I'm gonna get that. The money part of it,
the money part of it, got it, Okay, the money
part of it, I think, you know what, there's a
lot made out of that. And there's a lot of
guilt thrown around. Every school throws around guilt. Hey, you
got to pay more if you're a bad fan. If
you don't give us more money, we're gonna struggle if
we don't. Yeah, Danny Sprinkle can't put together a team
without more money.

Speaker 2 (37:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
He's had money, and his teams still haven't been good.
So you know, paid great Osa War a million bucks
that didn't work out, not so great, not so great,
god like, And here's the thing Sprinkle can coach. Okay,
So there is something to that maybe, and we're gonna
get into by the way, side, note the expansion of
the tournament next week. Parish is gonna jump on with us.

(37:48):
Uh probably Tuesday or Wednesday next week, we'll see. But yeah,
the the schedule to me is what as a fan,
and I'll guarantee you a soft He's gonna come on
and say it doesn't matter. Well, he's working, it doesn't matter.
You know why he went Saturday off.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
That's true, That's exactly why.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Okay, Like he's not a normal fan, right, he's working
the games. He does a seven hour pre game and
twelve hour postgame show. Yeah, if he's doing a show anyway,
So it doesn't really change.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
That doesn't change anything.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
So whatever he says about games and times and dates, whatever,
Dick Baird would say, every game should be played atwelve
thirty on a Saturday. I don't necessarily disagree with this.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
I don't either. I kind of like that.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
When I grew up, I mean I grew up, we
went to a couple of Husky games every year, jump
on the old eighteen bus out there in Ballard and
drove down, parked our car at the paying pack a lot,
and took the bus and came back and were home
by four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
It was great.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, but that's not the way the world works. The
Fox Friday night football schedule came out. TV schedule came
out big ten heavy. Washington has two Friday games, and
they are back to back October second and October ninth.

(38:59):
Washington on Talkctober second will play at North I'm sorry,
October ninth and October sixteenth. October ninth, Washington will play
at home against Iowa October sixteenth. The Huskies in the
following week, so we said, guess it won't be a
short week. They will travel to Purdue. Now doing the
math here on the numbers, they I don't know if

(39:22):
it can you look up and see if they play
September twenty fifth for me, ub yeah, but they will
play because that's the week before. I don't play the
twenty sixth, I'm sorry. Do they play the second or
the third? October third? They play the third against USC
at home at USC. Wow, So come back short week
to Iowa host Iowa. So back to back Friday games Iowa,

(39:47):
Washington and Washington at Purdue. Now listen, produce awful even
though I got a new coach and stuff. That that's
you probably send a JB team there and win that game.
But Iowa, it's not even about the competitive part of it,
because at some point you're probably I have a short
week or whatever. I just that's that's neither here nor there.
I am curious four nine, four or five one from
a fans perspective because I hate Friday games from my team.

(40:10):
I don't know what we have yet, and maybe it's
been announced. I haven't looked at it close enough. I
just hate him. I hated it when the PAC twelve
went to the Ones. I hate even more. The Thursday games. God,
I went to a Thursday game I think was it
might have been the last year of the PAC twelve
we played. We played Utah at home on a Thursday,

(40:30):
and it was awful. Like it was awful, especially in Pullman,
like a Thursday in Pullman, like you're so reliant on
ninety percent of your fan base coming in from out
of town and you play a six o'clock game or
a seven o'clock game.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
That was the game.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
If you remember that Petros lost his mind, that's right,
because they were doing the game remotely, by the way,
so I don't think you have that much to complain about.
And if you're there, you can go talk to the
coach yourself. But they do the game remotely, and they
weren't told that their third string quarterback was going to
start for Utah. He still beat our ass. But that's
that's neither here or there. But that was a deal, right,

(41:09):
So they play back that that Thursdays were awful, Fridays
weren't much better, but back to back Fridays. So to
lose two Saturdays in the Saturday is college.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Football Day, College Football Day.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
It just is, you know, the NFL. The only thing
they haven't been guilty of in terms of their absolute
massive ego and greed is the one date they've stayed
away from for the most part outside of Black Friday
is wait or a holiday Saturday is Fridays Friday. Because

(41:41):
that's that's why they're playing the stupid ass Australian game
on Thursday and the Seahawks are playing Wednesday because they
don't want to disrupt high school football on Fridays. Now,
in some parts of the country, high school football is
a bigger deal than others. I'm going to tell you
right now here in our state, a lot of people
think that's not a big deal. I'm if you did
the cub of attendance at high school football games in

(42:02):
our state on a Friday, the number would probably astound you.
I mean it's you go find an empty stadium in
the SPSL or Kinko or up north in Stahomish County,
You're not going to find one. And then that's that
unders talking about the bigger school much less of smaller ones.
Friday night should be for high school football, period and

(42:23):
of story. Now, in the world we live in now,
that's not the case with the college football because all
of TV dot numbers and all that. I think making
a team I'll be on Washington side here. I think
making a team play back to back Fridays is pretty
that's lame, that's that's not great. And again some people
will say they don't care. I think most you're fan,
what do you think?

Speaker 3 (42:44):
I don't like it at all. I totally agree with you.
I think Saturday is the day for college football. I'm
a routine guy, especially now that I have a kid,
and it's going to be a little bit harder just
to kind of get up and watch any sporting event
as possible. That's during baseball season two. You know, that
adds into everything. It just I just don't really understand.

(43:04):
I mean I kind of do with the money and everything.
By the way, I did look at Wazo's schedule all
Saturdays as of now, every single it could change change.
It's a lot of those are TVD But yes, yeah,
but yeah, I know I don't like it. I don't
like it. It's it doesn't make a ton of sense.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
We have a small conference, and so because of that
fewer games. Yeah, and the deal they got with CW
and everything else they got, it probably won't be that way.
But and looking at this, I mean, I guess one
of the games could have been. Interestingly enough, it could
have been they could have taken the Apple Cup on
the Friday, September fourth, at point that'll be Fresno State

(43:39):
USC will be that game. Because it's here this year,
and because it's here that that would be a Fox game.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
I do believe.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
So they didn't do that. But yeah, I think I
just think it's ridiculous. Honestly, I think it's ridiculous and
on w hard for me to be this way on
Washington side, not just playing too but playing back to
back early October and that should be a Saturday afternoon
October ninth, probably still have pretty good weather. Yeah, that

(44:07):
should be Take the boat head on out to Husky Stadium.
Some people say it's the greatest setting in football. I
don't think so, but some people would say that it's
ridiculous anyway, your thought's four nine four five one that
is to come a Dodge text line. But it's the
world we live in now, it is. It is just
the world we live in right now. I'll take a
Friday over a Thursday. But it's like, you know, that's

(44:30):
like do I want to stick a needle in my
eye or walk over hot coals?

Speaker 2 (44:33):
I don't know. Both suck, They're both awful.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
I don't like either. I don't like either one of
those opportunities, to be honest with you, At that point, I.

Speaker 3 (44:40):
Missed the days where it was, you know, every Saturday
afternoon was a you know, a Husky football game, and
then the Black Friday was the pack or it was
the Apple Cup.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
You know, the one that I the one that I
really you know, the Pac twelve after dark was such
a thing, and I know people complained about it. I
think at some point too, you have to look at
the market. And what I I mean by that is this,
if you're playing a night game and it's what day
is it? First of all? And where is it like

(45:08):
a night game in Seattle? Honestly, fine, everything else here
is at night and ninety percent of your fan base
is coming from this area. So does it matter if
you're playing a Saturday night Hell, there's people that want
you got young kids. You'd rather have a seven o'clock game.
You got soccer in the morning, you got baseball, whatever
you got going on in the morning for youth football.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Boom.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
We can still go to the game. You play a
Friday night game in Pullman. Not as much fun, Eugene.
Everyone comes from Portland. It's going to be a two
hour drive. It's fine, you can make that work, right La.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
For sure.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
Traffic's gonna be bad no matter what day of the week,
whenever it is. But when you have like local outposts,
it just doesn't make sense. But I love this Saturday night.
West Coast teams should be playing Saturday night college football,
and there were so few of them last year if
you noticed, just wasn't the same. It's not just because
the PAC twelve is done. It just there weren't as many.
They're just weren't as many games. I mean we didn't

(46:01):
even we Wazoo didn't even play that many.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Yeah, and it's the conference changing doesn't change that the
places are still in the same locations.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
There's still a Pacific time zone. Yeah, there's still a Pacific.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
Times theoretically should have the same amount of games in
that time I would.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Assume we'll see a lot of those in the CW
this year. Okay, just with the PAC twelve and you know,
like the new Pac twelve. Yeah, but people aren't gonna
be fired up about that initially. I mean Boise State, sure,
I mean I like our conference for what we're able
to salvage out of it, but it's not the same. Now,
I'll say this, a Boise State, Colorado State with Jim

(46:34):
Moore as a coach, for an improved Colorado State game
against Boise State on a Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (46:38):
I'd watch that.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
That's whatn That's that's more fun than you know, a
crappy Arizona team against a crappy Stanford team with thirty
people in the stams of Stanford. Yeah right, all right,
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Speaker 7 (47:16):
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Speaker 2 (47:19):
Got lots of stuff to get to with.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
Danny O'Neil joins us right now in the Beacon Plumbing hotline, Sir,
how are you.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I'm doing very well.

Speaker 8 (47:26):
Ian at Triumphant return to Seattle last weekend where we
watched the UW Men's varsity eight edged the Brits from
England to reaffirm our victory in the American Revolution. I
don't want them getting froggy and thinking that they that
they that they run anything.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
We got to remind them.

Speaker 8 (47:45):
Who won that war?

Speaker 2 (47:47):
Well, you know what?

Speaker 1 (47:48):
And nothing better to mind somebody about a conquering victory
in a World war effectively, even though it wasn't called
that than a win on a Montley cut, like nothing
says that. I mean, honestly, I've got some husky. I
got some husky stuff to get to you.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
In a second.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Let me do this. We spent some time last week
most of the time serious conversation and I appreciate it.
I appreciate your openness. Danny nine years sober, and I
assume the streak is intact after.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
Hanging out with your buddies this weekend.

Speaker 8 (48:21):
Okay, I did not crash off the wagon last week.
Yak Jack had one athletic over the course of the weekend.
So we're all finding good.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Okay, perfect the I'm gonna you commented on something on
on social media to day. I'm gonna play this and
as you did, beep everything out right. Okay, good, thank you.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
I was scrambling in the brake to make sure, but
yes I did.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
Okay, thank you. I'm gonna play this. Uh because Danny comment,
I want to just touch it on this real quick
and then we'll go from there.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
This is uh.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
I don't even know what the hell podcast this was
or anything else, but this is UFC Guru Dana White,
take a listen.

Speaker 10 (48:55):
I hate this whole men's mental health both that they
talk about.

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (49:02):
Unfortunately, when you're a man, you are the provider. You
are the one that that takes care of your family.

Speaker 9 (49:10):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (49:11):
You know you you are the example for your kids
when they grow up and your sons, you know, and
your daughters, and you know, unfortunately you you.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Can't be that guy.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
That's I see these guys posting on social media.

Speaker 10 (49:28):
I had a bad day and I'm so sad and all.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
This other crazy.

Speaker 10 (49:34):
It's just it's an attractive to other males, let alone women.
I can't even imagine. Uh yeah, I'm really against all that.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Uh before I jump in, Danie, I'll let your you
chimed in well on social media.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
So I do like Dana White or some of the
things Dana White's done. I've interviewed him a number of times,
talked to them a lot back when the UFC was
growing in popularity about twenty years ago. So I'm not
an anti data wide. I think that the message that
he's sending there is it reflects of you, of what

(50:12):
men should be. And there might have been a time
in world history where that idea of needing to constantly
project strength was important, and that time was when, right
about the time, people started living in groups and you
had to assert yourself otherwise all your stuff would get
taken Caveman time. And my opinion is that we have

(50:35):
developed enough as a society that that is not a
tactic that you need to constantly rely upon, and there
are some drawbacks to that. Never admit weakness, don't sort
of show your soft side as the provider you have
to be, and leaving alone all the ideas of why

(50:56):
we assume that the man has to be the provider,
which I don't think is accurate. It certainly doesn't reflect
my life, but you don't have to be that way,
and there are some real downsides to denying actual emotions
that you feel. And the one thing that I always
think when I hear someone say something like that, and
you do hear it a lot now because there are

(51:17):
a lot of people. I don't know how many people
are familiar with the manisphere, but there's a whole section
of the Internet out there that is dedicated to basically
affirming the idea of men being strong and having to
take what they want and going down into the nature
of partnerships and what it means to be the differences

(51:41):
between men and women, and I just I think all
that stuff is so immature. I just I think that
you're diluting yourself if you think that that's the way
you have to be in this day and age, and
if you talk about your feelings openly, you know what
you lose, What you actually lose is the internet applause

(52:02):
from people that want to affirm that men have to
be the soul breadwinner. The one thing I will say,
and I don't agree with Dana White on this, the
one thing I will say is that I do think
that you can see and this is especially true on
the Internet where people are sort of hamming up or

(52:24):
exaggerating their feelings to get support. But that's such a minimal,
Like that's such a There are people constantly faking all
sorts of things on the Internet. And the point is
is that you can communicate about how you feel as
an adult. You can use your words, and it doesn't
mean that you forfeit anything in terms of your masculinity,

(52:46):
like it actually will enhance your life. I'm proof of this,
and I've been in therapy for twenty years and it's
been extremely helpful to me. And I don't post every day,
Oh I'm sad, my life's kicking my butt. But like
those sort of things and getting help and talking through things,
I think that that's how mature people in this day

(53:08):
and age. I think it's easier to find happiness that way.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, I think it. Uh, you know, I I've got
such strong feelings and I don't want to get too
deep into it, but I mean, I have a golf
Turm interview and we have three foundations that we that
we donate to. We also do a charity beer at
Georgetown Brewing and and Manny and Roger and Dave and
Matt and everybody stepped up and helped me with that.

(53:31):
One of them is uh DIPG Foundation, the Avery Huffman
Foundation DIPG. It's a pediatric brain tumor that is there's
no cure. Friend Brandon Huffan's daughter passed away from that
years ago. The other one is Jordan Morris Foundation for
Type one diabetes. He supports young people with that. He
helped my kid tremendously, and frankly, Jordan does it all
grassroots himself, and so whatever I can do to help
him with that. And then the other one is Lensky's Hope.

(53:54):
And I always tell people and it's funny because I've
not funny. Kim and Marck and I have incredible relationship
talk to him all the time, great relationship with my family,
and we always say I wish we wish we never
would have met, right, just wish it hadn't happened. So

(54:14):
the thing with that is, and especially talking his ex
teammates play in my tournament. His roommate is a friend
of mine who plays in the tournament, and we you know,
their whole goal with Lensky's hope, it's student athlete base.
They've expanded it now to people in the military, young
people in the military, other students, high school, et cetera.

(54:37):
And so whatever dollar we give him is huge. And
the biggest thing was is awareness, is saying hey, if
you need help or if you're not feeling right, then
ask for help. That's fine. I think what you said,
Danny is true. There are those that use mental health
as an unnecessary excuse or crutch, and to me, that's

(55:01):
just gross. But there are others that maybe five years
ago or in twenty eighteen, for example, if you're a student,
you know it affected every campus in this state. You know,
even Washington doesn't matter when Tyler took his own life.
For student student athletes, it if you now feel like

(55:24):
you have an ability to go talk to somebody, that's
a good thing. How is that a bad thing? Dana
White like, and I'm with you, I kind of like
I find him entertaining, Like I kind of find him
entertaining and outspoken, and I don't agree with about ninety
percent of things he stands for, but I find him entertaining.
I thought that was just an irresponsible comment. I don't
know who the woman was on with him. Her chuckling

(55:45):
about it was equally disgusting.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I know this.

Speaker 1 (55:49):
Some of the money money we take every year from
the golf tournament and for the beer, and we give
it to Helenski's hope I find out what you know.
I know where it goes for research for DIPG, what
Jordan's able to do with young people after every Sounder
game home and away, and also supporting folks at Children's hospital.
And I know what the Lensky's do. They have these
programs called Tyler Talks. They don't film them, they don't

(56:10):
put them up on the internet. You don't know what's
being said. But they gathered groups in if it's a
if it's an athletic department. They one year, some of
the money that Danny they took from us UH it
went they did a tour. They did in one day.
They did Eastern Washington University, Gonzaga University, and Whitworth University
and all. It was early fall or like actually probably

(56:31):
like August. All the student athletes from those schools that
were there, they gathered into the biggest auditorium and they
did that. And I can't speak for Eastern Washington or
Gonzaga that day, but I know this. Our football coach
at Whitworth told me that he had a handful of
kids that asked for help afterwards. So I don't know.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I kind of disagree with him.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
I think he's I think he's way off base, and
I think it was a really just irresponsible comment on
his part, because you're right, we've all love. I don't
know if we all believe in evolution, but we have
all evolved right from cave man days to the wild
West to where we are today. Asking for help is
what we should do. Men, women, athletes, older people, it

(57:13):
doesn't matter. We should be able to ask for help.

Speaker 8 (57:17):
It's very well said, and Lensky's hope as an organization
and just the general mission of if you have thoughts
of harming yourself, you have to view that as being
sick like that. That is, it's not that you you
are sick. It's that that that thought process, that idea,
and there is getting help for that is what everyone

(57:43):
in the world wants for you. And the idea that
you can't as a man sort of say I'm having
a hard time or this is I feel like my
butt's been kicked right now. That that that idea of
masculinity is one of the things that makes it so
hard for men because they feel that asking for help

(58:05):
is somehow undermining that identity and that it's the idea,
that identity, that conception that is wrong that is getting
in the way and reaching out for help and just
being open to understanding what you feel and that it
will pass. That it's normal, like life is not always happy.

(58:28):
There are ups and downs. It's part of being humans.
And the way that you develop that understanding or get
through a tough time is by talking to people about it.
And and that can be anyone from friends and professionals.
There are professionals that are just a phone call away,
and there are people that would come running to make

(58:48):
sure that you know that, hey, it's going to be okay.
There are people that care about you and this happens,
you're not outside, I will say this is. It was
the first year that I was in therapy, so it's
fully twenty years ago now, and I was having a
hard time and my therapist kind of said to me

(59:09):
and I was basically I would term it whining, but
I wasn't really, but I was just talking about, like, man,
I don't know what's wrong with me. I don't know
why I'm not happier. And he looked at me and
he said, so, do you think most people are happier
than you are? And I was like, yeah, yeah, I
think walking down the street, most people have it together,
like they've got it going, and I'm the one that's

(59:29):
kind of like just just messed up. And he goes, yeah,
I think most people live quiet, little lives of desperation.
And I'm not sure why that was consoling to me,
because it's not like I enjoy the idea that other
people are unhappy, but it was kind of like, man,
we're all going through this and life has sharp, sharp porters,
and sometimes it does kick your butt, and it doesn't
mean there's anything wrong with you or you're failing. It's

(59:51):
just the part of the hard knocks that life tends
to administer. And the way we get through those is
by being together and reaching out to other people.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
Yeah, conversations, I think that's the big thing. I'll tell
you something just really crazy. This is not Andrews, go
ahead and tell.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
Just yeah, I mean, Ian calls me in during your
answer there, uh, Danny, because you know, it was a
long one and I'm sorry I missed some of it,
but it's worth it because he called me in and
showed me his phone. Literally the timestamp was just a
couple of minutes ago, and Kim Holensky had texted Ian
something just reaching out and I don't know if she's listening.

(01:00:25):
I don't know, isah. Yeah, it just kind of goes
to tell you that this is a powerful conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
I'm gonna if you're on YouTube, I'm gonna hold this
up that you were on YouTube. That's what she just
sent me. It just it's okay, that's that's something. Okay,
let's move on to something much more man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
It's Uh, the time is crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Well.

Speaker 8 (01:00:48):
One of the reasons I love sports is because it
is one of the things that brings the community together. Yeah,
even even even Huskies and Koubs and those sort of things.
Being college football fans, being Marror fans. It's one of
the very few things that brings everybod together. And I
do believe in the idea of community and feeling connected
to other people, especially in a time where I do
think that more and more people even though it's easier

(01:01:11):
to sort of quote unquote talk to people on the internet,
that people are lonelier, and to know that like you're not, Like,
there are people out there that are connected in ways
that maybe you don't even fully appreciate, but are listening
to the people you're listening to, and we are all
part of a community. And I do care about all
the people, and I know that there are tons of
other people that care too, So yeah, it's it's it's

(01:01:36):
good to talk about these sort of things.

Speaker 1 (01:01:39):
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with Danny that that didn't have to do with sports.
But let's get to sports. Danny, believe it or not,

(01:02:02):
and Andrews can tell you this.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
This is true.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I was defending Washington and their football team in the
last segment. It's true, he was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
He was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
I think it's in dead series. I think it's messed
up that the Huskies are playing not just one Friday
night game. Then the schedule was released today by a Fox,
but two Friday games and back to back Friday games
as well. They're playing at home October ninth against Iowa

(01:02:33):
on the road the following Friday at Purdue, back to
back Friday games. Much like much like Dick Bart, I
think every game should be played at twelve thirty on Saturday.
But if not, it should just be played on Saturday. Danny,
what do you think?

Speaker 8 (01:02:47):
I am one agreement. And I saw that SOFTI posted
and said, he's one of the few people that recognizing
that he likes him and because he.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
GOLs on Saturday. But he's a country club guy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
He's gonna golf on Saturday and he gets Saturday off.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
That's why he said that. And he would have a
show anyway, on a show anyway Friday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
What different.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
He is not the guy to comment on this. He
just is not.

Speaker 8 (01:03:14):
Okay, that's really funny. I am not a Friday night
college football guy. If if if I were elected brand
Kuba of sports in this country, that would probably be
the second thing that I would do would be to
band college football on Thursday, Friday, Monday night. College football's

(01:03:36):
played on SAT except for the Bulls. That's it. The
first thing that I would do was introduce European style
of relegation, so we get this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
Start the start the campaign. I want to elect you.

Speaker 8 (01:03:48):
Come on, I would absolutely do that. I don't like it.
I also understand that this is part of the Devil's
deal that that college team fade and college conferences have
made that you when you start calling your games inventory,
which every time I hear that I want to kick something,

(01:04:09):
it's like, well the inventory that's available is like, it's
not inventory, Like this is a it's a college football game.
That but it if you've gone to Friday night games
that it's the atmosphere is totally different. I think Saturday
night games it's fun when they're once a season. When
it's two and three times. I think that's the worst

(01:04:30):
environment too. But the fact is, like, the real fact
is is that they, the powers that be in college football,
have decided that the fans that go to the games
in person don't matter as much as the TV numbers
that they will generate, and by spreading their games out,
it doesn't. It doesn't surprise me that Washington is going

(01:04:51):
to get the shaft from Big Ten scheduling, and we
shouldn't have expected anything different when they agreed. Should have
known that this sort of thing was going to happen.
I don't ever expect it fair shape in Big Ten scheduling.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
Washington, Illinois, and Northwestern, I believe, are the three. They
get two Friday games in the Big Ten this year.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
So cheering that that that epitomizes my opinion. I am
one of the few who would have said I would
have preferred they not go to the Big Ten. And
I understand how that could be unrealistic and someone could
look at me and say that that's that was a
guest wish for the college book. But my counterpoint was,
are you ready to be Illinois? Are you ready to
be created like that?

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Into conference?

Speaker 8 (01:05:31):
You're going to because that's exactly what is going to happen,
and that is exactly what is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
In fairness, the other three schools from the Pac ten
each got one Friday not two.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
They got one.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
So you get a half a share and you get
two Friday games. And it's already been stated. Everyone's everybody's
been writing the stories this week about how when they
the money came out this week. It's great, but we're
facing you know, we're over the course of the six
years half a share. We're not Oregon. Your athletic directors
is we don't have Phil Knight, which is true.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
And here's the this is the thing. In a stunning
everyone will be stunned. Andrews asked me how many games
Michigan and Ohio State have on a Friday night Ian?

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
How many games do Michigan and Ohio State have on
a Friday night.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Checking schedule for the eighteenth time. Zero. Now there are
teams that don't have Friday night games because nobody wants
to watch them play. I'm talking to you Rutgers, I'm
talking to you Maryland, and I'm talking to you Minnesota.
All right, nobody wants to watch you, so that's why
you're not playing on a Friday night Rutgers at the tops.

(01:06:38):
Could Rutgers listen? I like the relegation plan. Would that
give us a shot? Like if us are Boise State
won the NEWPAC twelve, could we jump into the conference
and replace Rutgers? I like this right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:50):
I am?

Speaker 8 (01:06:51):
I think that the number one thing that American sports
gets wrong is that we don't do that. Like the
NBA talks about how to eliminate tanking. You know how
you eliminate tanking, Introduce relegation. Introduce relegation, and the college
football system we're going to have two big super conferences.
Why so Northwestern can can skid along down towards the bottom.
Hell no, if you suck, you should get sent down.

(01:07:13):
It's what happens to players, players who enter the transfer
portal because wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you're not going to
play here anymore. Why shouldn't that happen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
To programs Northwestern, which, by the way, just build a
brand news team that's about the size of Martin Stadium
that's in Chicago, I should point out in Chicago. Yeah,
you're you are a I guess you. It's kind of
like how you got to have the one kid on
the team. He'll help raise a great point average.

Speaker 8 (01:07:38):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
I didn't know anything about that, but somebody said that
that's a thing. So we gotta have Northwestern there.

Speaker 11 (01:07:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:07:47):
I still think you guys should make Gonzaga play football
in that conference. Fine, you can come in here and
play basketball. We're going to kick the hell out of
your innermural team in football.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Oh oh no, no, we're We're all in on God listen,
I'm all in on Gonzaga. You know why they bring
money with them. That's that's they are a cash cow. Baby,
they are a cash cow, and they're not playing. They're
not going to ever play a Tuesday or Wednesday seventy
sixteen playoff play in game, they play for a full share,

(01:08:16):
which we as a conference get one hundred. You know what,
you can have a little bit of football money from
the CW we're taking you got. I want to hell,
I'm all Gonzaga can win the damn damn national championship.
Now you keep winning and keep giving us cash. I'm
all in. We won't beat you, we won't come up
and bully you in football. You just keep giving us
that money. Mark few just keep giving us that cash money.

(01:08:37):
I'm all in, buddy, That's that's what I am. But
yeah again, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 8 (01:08:46):
Here's the idea that this improves is golfing. He has
no problem because they'll get to go out and go.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
That's he gets a set. He gets too late. Fall
Saturdays off, back to back riding valley.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Here you come.

Speaker 8 (01:09:02):
Precious gold Man is precious.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
I wish the Kraken never played a Saturday night. That'd
be awesome. That'd be cool if hell if I had
every Saturday after the hockey season, that's great. You know,
give me I'll have a Friday game. That's fine. I'll
have a Monday through Just play Monday through Friday NHL.
I'm good, that's good. Yeah yeah, because you know why
then I get Saturday off. I'd be into that doesn't

(01:09:25):
work that way, all right?

Speaker 8 (01:09:27):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Tell us about the dang Apostrophe, sir.

Speaker 8 (01:09:29):
The dang Apostrophe is the newsletter that originates out of
New York City. You go to Danny O'Neil dot com.
You enter your email address, and maybe next week we'll
have my grand plan for relegation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
And how oh I like that let's let's do that.
Let's do that.

Speaker 8 (01:09:43):
Sport that it is introduced to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
I love it all right, buddy, have a great week.

Speaker 8 (01:09:46):
Thank you, Take care guys. Great to talk to.

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Angel to Wins. Here you go, they are playing host
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(01:11:04):
looking back here.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Have they won one before? Benton? For some reason? I
don't think they have.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
But you take on this in the four two five,
might not get to it by text. Not to be
that guy. But Land to DuPont is the silver.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
Yeah he's great. Yeah, you can make that fair enough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Yeah. Meanton's pretty damn good.

Speaker 5 (01:11:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
I like him. I'm excited.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
He's really he's grown on me, like in terms of
like becoming better and better. I don't think they've ever
won the title now that I'll look back. They've been
in the finals a couple of times, have not won it, right, Benton,
call me if I'm wrong. They'll call the show right now.
So you can do something that Seattle's done twice. The
t birde your biggest friends down North South. They've won
the last friends. They've won twice. Barzel, mawe, Barzel, Let's

(01:11:48):
come here. Barzel won it in twenty eighteen and then
Seattle beat Winnipeg in twenty twenty three. So yeah, they're
trying to win their first WHL championship. It looks like
that's a they're a wagon man.

Speaker 2 (01:12:01):
I think they win. I think they win easy.

Speaker 1 (01:12:02):
But hey, listen, your hockey fan, and you're up north,
go check it out. I guess there are some tickets available.
There shouldn't be. That thing should sell out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Too. Really cool ring.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
It's like you can get I can do without the
cow bells. Paras are dumb, but like those are moronic.
I don't need those.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Do with the arena, No, but it's the fans.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Yeah, I blame Benton for everything. Yeah, it's good point.
If it's going well up in Everett, he has no
credit none. That's Steve Hamilton, their head coach, got it.
If things aren't going well, it's Ben Bent's fault. Ye,
all the captain's fault. I bet if you go up
there other night, you'll probably have a Mike Benton siding.
You'll probably have an al Kiniski siding. Yeah, good point,

(01:12:43):
you'll probably even you might even have an effort fits
you sighting because I know those three travel on a pack.

Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
They do, and they've gone to a few games this season.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
If they are up there, they'll be holding court, signing autographs,
taking pictures, bissing babies, give them their breakdowns. Tips an raiders.
Tonight's seven o'clock NHL playoffs continue as well. The Carolina
Hurricanes are speaking of wagons US seven and oh now

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in the postseason, no team's ever gotten eight no to
start the first two rounds.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
They're good.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yikes, this a bad night last and just one game
for the age played anyone. No, Ottawa was nothing in
PHILADELI I think Seattle's but I think, honestly, I know
that the Pillow Fight was the Western Conferences season. I
think Seattle's better than Philly. I agree that, and I'm
not sure if Attawa was all that and bagall the

(01:13:42):
Ottawa should have been better. They should have been better.
It doesn't help. And Brady Kachuck doesn't want to be
there and doesn't score a goal.

Speaker 2 (01:13:48):
True.

Speaker 1 (01:13:49):
All right, Daily power play Homeookrack, We'll come back. We're
gonna hear from the new athletic director at Washington State,
John Harlow. The conversation Jess had coming up four nine,
four or five one is the tambadage tech time. We'll
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Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
Three point three.

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as the sales concerned. That's according to an owner to
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opening up on Wednesday, September ninth?

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Is that right? Does that sound right to you? Thanks?
Where that Wednesday is? That's fun?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Feels strongly like Chicago for that opener. Let's see Everage
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Speaker 2 (01:15:01):
Head on up there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:02):
I'm told James Stuckey, ace equipment manager for the Seattle Kraken,
will be there as well. He's not sure if Benton
fits and a'l let him hang with them. Anally very
exclusive club the radio broadcast crew, I guess, even though
Stuck does a lot of work and is far more
valuable to the organization than those three guys combined totally

(01:15:22):
and me too. I'll put myself in there, but yeah,
he's not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
I love you stuck.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
Let's see storm open up the season. Tonight's take it
on Golden State. Steph Curries in town. Should be fun.
All right, let's go.

Speaker 7 (01:15:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
Back, we'll get to John Harlowe sat down to athletic
director Washington State, came in studio, sat down with Jess
a few days ago. I haven't had a chance to
get that yet. So we'll do that here in just
a couple of minutes. So stand by the hell's going
on here? Watch his golf turm. I see like eight
guys running. This is crazy, you know TV in there

(01:16:23):
day like does someone get hurt fall in the water.
It's like eight guys with walkie talk He's running, sprinting
at a golf urm.

Speaker 2 (01:16:30):
Never see that before dispatch. We got a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
We got a problem. Someone's ball moved. Did you see
that Cam Young last week. He still won the tournament. Yeah,
there's no better sport than golfing like his No one
saw it and the TV replays never could pick it up.
He thought it might have moved. Called a rules official over.

Speaker 2 (01:16:50):
And he says.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
Guy says, well, if you thought it moved, then it moved,
and that's a one stroke penalty. And he had nothing
to do. I mean, he addressed the ball and that
was it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
Yeah, so what if he.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
I'm not super familiar with the rules.

Speaker 1 (01:17:03):
I think if he would have signed a scorecard, it
would have been and he would have and if and
they found out later that it moved, it would have
been inaccurate. It would been disqualified. He end up winning
the tournament, so would have cost you millions. It's a
good call on his part. Yeah, just to make sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
Would you do that if you're just messing around, no
move to bite of grass, that moved my ball? Integrity?

Speaker 3 (01:17:23):
Come on, I think it's just more of the good
will of what the rule is supposed to be, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
What I mean it is.

Speaker 1 (01:17:28):
I forgot to mention Washington playing two games at night
on Fridays this year. Courtesy of Fox television. So we'll
have those two kind. I hope they're early, Please be early,
like be like a five o'clock game. We're off early
that day because what is it? It's a is it
a four hour? Four hour pre game? Yeah, so we

(01:17:49):
do like a one hour show'd beautiful?

Speaker 2 (01:17:52):
God, that'd beautiful. Huh Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:17:55):
Softy gets to take advantage of that during hockey season
with you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:58):
Oh he doesn't. He gets all bitter though he does.
He's like, I still have to do a show. Yeah, yeah, Bud, Like,
here's the thing. Monday night football, you have an hour and.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
A half show.

Speaker 1 (01:18:07):
Thursday football hour and a half show. Anytime the Huskies
play something meaningful, you don't do it, you do another show, right, yeah,
Cracking games, Cracking games, East Coast, cracking game. Well, if
it's a five o'clock game, I still do my whole show, right,
And he does like an hour. Yeah, and then Benton
comes in and kicks him out and then the hell
out of here, Get the hell out of here. Yeah,
the real important guys, David, I have a show to do,

(01:18:29):
got to do my pregame prep. The Crucking Audio Network
is about to go on the air. I need you
to clear out a network central. We need to transform
this into network. This will networks. You know, we have
the second largest radio network in the National Hockey League
and we do actually, which is pretty pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:47):
Amazing, pretty dope actually, And they listened to mic. No,
I'm just kidding. No, he does a great job. No,
he does a great job.

Speaker 1 (01:18:53):
I honestly, Like if I'm if I'm ranking them, Like
we're talking about MVPs of the marriage yesterday, Like I
still think Donovan's right or right there. I think he's there. Yeah,
Like he's definitely the conversation. Yeah, like Ben to the
conversation for MVPs here, Yes, Like he does it all.
People don't know. He does all our social media. None
of us are smart enough or capable of doing that,

(01:19:13):
Like literally none of us are, not at all. And
it wasn't for him, we would have no social media
presence whatsoever. And so he does all that and then
he does a great job doing the hockey broadcast. But yeah,
he'll be up at Angel and the Winds. I'm sure
tonight I'm gonna heard back from though. What's going on
with that? Have you heard from him all?

Speaker 2 (01:19:30):
What's going on there? Have you heard from him at
all today. I have not sent in our group chat,
because he always does.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
A group chat has like anybody else have those those
group chats where at some point it's like, okay, enough, is.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
That our hockey voice for you?

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
Yeah? Yeah, okay. He did text us at eight or
nine this morning. I'm gonna read it out loud because
it's it's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
It's a good text. Yes, it is today's thing that
hit me. Stop right there? What today's thing that hit me?

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:20:02):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:20:02):
The Carolina Hurricanes and NBA terms the two thousand San
Antonio Spurs without the rings.

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
What's the comparison.

Speaker 2 (01:20:11):
I don't know, that's all. That's all the tech said.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
So random, I know, all right, Off to look at
that one. Listening to John Hardy, maybe like.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
The kind of boring ish nature of how they do
things there, maybe just would be methodical. Yeah, are a
really good coach. Yeah maybe like Popovich, Rob Rob.

Speaker 1 (01:20:30):
Brendan Moore is a way better dude than Popovich was though,
like way more personality and he didn't have Rod the
bot didn't have a lot of personality, but he got
He's a lot better dude, I think in some ways,
so Rory hit a guy by the way in the gallery.
Apparently somebody's down. Oh okay, because he's kind of chuckling
about it right now. So or somebody hits or somebody
in his threesome did because yeah, there's the cleared out.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yeah, oh well that happens, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
John Harlowe is a new athletic director at Washington State University.
He was here in studio just a couple of days.
Go down a chance to play this yet, but wanted
to hear from him about what's going on at WAZOO,
and he sat down with his sideline reporter on the
radio network, Jess.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
I'man McIntyre.

Speaker 14 (01:21:09):
Thanks Ian.

Speaker 9 (01:21:09):
It is so nice to be joined in studio by
John Harlowe, who I have not gotten to see in
person since he took over the role of athletic director
at Washington State.

Speaker 14 (01:21:19):
John, thank you so much for being here.

Speaker 2 (01:21:21):
Absolutely, it's a pleasure good to see you.

Speaker 11 (01:21:23):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 9 (01:21:24):
Yeah, and thank you for allowing me to give you
a hug because you're my boss now. But I'm not
just a hugger with everybody that comes in. How is
the last i mean, six eight months spent for you.

Speaker 11 (01:21:36):
Yeah, they've they've been good. If I can say that
they've been good, I think the team's working really hard.
Proud of what the team's accomplished in the last six
to eight months. Grateful for this opportunity. Obviously, now that
it's kind of solidified for me to be leading this department,
I think that gives some stability in the direction of
where we're going, and now we can can rally around that.

(01:21:57):
And so it's been a chaotic couple of months, but
I mean that in the best possible way. We've got
to keep the pedal down and keep going to activate
more kougs. So grateful for the opportunity to share this
with the group and for what we're doing.

Speaker 9 (01:22:10):
Yeah, well let's delve into that. You know exactly what's
been going on. I mean, I've been watching coach More
from the sidelines and everything that he's doing. All I
see is retention, portal and recruitment, and I don't think
I've seen that kind of activation from a head coach
who is incoming as a new head coach in it ever. Really, So,

(01:22:33):
what have you seen from coach More?

Speaker 11 (01:22:34):
He's been all in since the second that he agreed
to come on board and it's exciting process to go through.
But once he got here and he started filling out
his staff immediately, the conversations about returning or retaining those
players they started immediately. And again we talked about it
off air, but the opportunity for him to be at
the bowl game and get in front of those student

(01:22:55):
athletes parents and have one on one conversations with them
there let them know what the cature was going to be.
Like the fit in the program. He understands how important
the culture is and how important the player development is.
Obviously comes from an incredible football pedigree and has built
out his staff with veterans, young energy Kouga alums. He

(01:23:15):
understands how Eastern Washington operates. He's been so gracious with
his time. He understands how important that connection is too.
So as a staff and an administration, we couldn't be
more grateful for his partnership and understanding what it means
to be a koug and how important it is.

Speaker 9 (01:23:29):
Yeah, I mean, I've learned from some of the best
one in the room right now, Bill Stevens, what it
means to be a KUG. You seeing me through my
fourteen seasons as the sideline reporter at Washington State and
that means a lot.

Speaker 14 (01:23:43):
Thank you, Bill.

Speaker 9 (01:23:45):
But when you're talking about activating Koug's, I think there
is some confusion when it comes on how to give,
where to give, where the money goes when you give.
There's a lot of different silos right now. What would
you like to the Koug's listening right now to know
about when they give, when they donate, where it goes.

Speaker 11 (01:24:04):
Yeah, no, that's a great question. So first off, we
have one of the bigger living alumni bases in the
New pac twelve two hundred and fifty thousand plus. That's
a lot of opportunity. We've got roughly four thousand annual
fund members, so there is ample room for growth there
and so it's our job to make sure we can
activate that. Cougar Collective has been tremendous partners. We talk

(01:24:25):
to them. I talked to that group at least a
few times a week. Our staff is in communication with
them multiple times a week. Two they continue to grow
their brand. They've built a tremendous platform. They do a
lot of work for the Cougs, and so we're continually
trying to bounce ideas how we grow both sides ultimately
over the same goal, how do we continue to bring
in revenue for the Cougs, to retain our student athletes,

(01:24:47):
to recruit new ones, and how we continue to build
a program. So that's a shared vision between both of
our both of our platforms there and it's been a
tremendous partnership. Now what we want to try and do
is provide options for that. So historically our Cougar Athletic Fund,
you give scholarships there. That's been the lifeblood of what

(01:25:08):
we do. Our annual fund, which goes directly towards our
student athlete for scholarships and access. That's also where we've
taken in donations for our capital projects in the past
for Taylor Sports Complex, the Champion Center, the Baseball project.
All of our donations that are coming through are coming
through the Cougar Athletic Fund. We have the same opportunity
for revshare and ANIL agreements through the Cougar Athletic Fund

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as well. Those are tax deductible gifts that go into
sport excellence funds and it's up to the coach's discretion
as to how those are allocated or how those are utilized.
But there's also the platform if someone feels so compelled
to do so, to go with the Cougar Collective. Again,
those funds, we have conversations about where they're going, how
they're utilized, how they're activated, and the collective has opportunities
to do some different things with some of their incredible

(01:25:52):
tailgates that they've had, some of the other brands that
they've activated. So it's really how do we grow it
together so that again, at the same time, we're both
working towards the same goal, and we've had really good
synergy in that, and so we want to continue to
try and amplify both so that we can get the
message out. At the end of the day, we just
need to grow that number of active givers to the
CEF or to the kuks, and again, whatever methodology that is,

(01:26:14):
we just need to take that number from four thousand
and the amount. I don't know the number for the
collective off hand, but there's a lot of room to
grow and again continue trying to activate that quarter million
worth of living alumni. There's tremendous room for growth and
we've got to get it there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:29):
Okay.

Speaker 9 (01:26:30):
John Harlow joining j Justaman McIntyre here in studio for
the Ian Furnes Show. And I do like that you
say that too, that it's more of a partnership or
that you know, because I said siloed and that means
you're not working together. But I think a lot of
the same people are coming together for the common cause.
So I think some people think that those two would

(01:26:51):
cause an issue because there are two different ways to
give that there might be some competition between the two.

Speaker 14 (01:26:57):
And how have you found.

Speaker 9 (01:26:59):
That base working together or have you found it competitive?

Speaker 11 (01:27:04):
Not necessarily competitive, No, because again the group that is
behind that, they are incredibly passionate Koog's they're so active.
We need them and so you know, we go to
their events, any of them are at our events. We
try and share as much as many resources and the
marketing and word of mouth to get to maximize the
exposure that we have because again, if they grow, that

(01:27:27):
means we're growing the resource as far as student athletes. Likewise,
same thing with our Cougar athletic funds. So growth is
what we need to happen, and there's methodology in the
pathway for both and working together is the only way
for us to get there.

Speaker 9 (01:27:39):
Yeah, and I completely agree. I think that just being
on the outside, people don't know that or that there
is the ability to work together. And I know that
there are some rumors out there, some articles being written
about the Cougar Collective, whether it could go in house
or not, because it's independent right now. It's a partnership
for sure. But do you ever see that happening hard.

Speaker 11 (01:28:03):
To say at this particular moment, and we've seen it
happen with some of our peers. We've seen it not
happen with some of our peers. One thing that we're
committed to doing is making sure that what we do
fits for our fan base and fits for our student athletes.
So if sometime down the road that makes sense for
both parties for that to happen, great. If it makes
more sense for us to stay, you know, in partnership

(01:28:25):
working towards its common goal, that's okay too, because again,
we don't want to be in competition. We've got to
grow this and we need both sides. If we're working
against each other, then we are doing our student athletes
a disservice in our community at disservice. So I think
there's opportunities for both. And again I just stressed appreciation
for what that group has done and built from the

(01:28:47):
ground up, and we can continue to both amplify.

Speaker 9 (01:28:50):
And going back to the beginning of our conversation, I
was talking about coach more specifically, but it was retention,
recruitment and the transfer portal. How does the NIL help
you as an athletic director or how does it make
it more of a challenge?

Speaker 11 (01:29:07):
Yeah, I mean the opportunities there are. That's how we
recruit and retain our student athletes. It's the new version
of scholarships. And there was the market here or the
NCAA has been transient for quite some time. It's just
a lot more visible now. You know, there's not the
penalties for transfers as there as there once was. But
for our student athletes, whether they're here for a year

(01:29:27):
or for five years, they are Koog's and we're going
to wrap them in support and make sure we develop
them again classroom competition and for life after that. We
need to continue to make sure that we're telling the
stories of those student athletes that because there's not the
familiarity if they're just if they're new transfers or have
just gotten here, there's not the familiarity if if they've
been here for two or three years. We need to

(01:29:48):
continue to activate those stories to tell those put faces
to names, and especially behind the helmets, it's not quite
as easy to identify the.

Speaker 2 (01:29:55):
Players, But.

Speaker 11 (01:29:58):
There's there's and that's only a fraction of the student
athletes that are getting repshare and ile deals too. It's
what gets the most attention and probably the most time
and discussion, but it's only a fraction of the student athletes,
and they're all important, and so we also have to
make sure that we're those that are not on those
types of deals are receiving the same level of support

(01:30:18):
and care which they are. We take a lot of
pride in that, but historically we've punched above our weight
class as Koog's and that was pre nil. This is
just a new opportunity, new challenge, and it's it's going
to be an adjustment. But at the end of the day,
either commit to change or you can commit to your relevance.
And one of those is hard, the other is catastrophic.

(01:30:40):
And so we've got to continue to change and adapt
to this to grow this and that's the only plot
path forward.

Speaker 9 (01:30:46):
I really like that line, by the way, John Harlowe
knew with athletic director at Washington State. Yeah, one is hard,
one is catastrophic. Yeah, we always have to grow and change.
I wanted to ask you personally what that transition has
been like, because it's not like you just came to
this athletic department.

Speaker 14 (01:31:01):
You've just watched the change.

Speaker 9 (01:31:03):
You have seen it, and for you personally taking over
this role, I feel like some people might not be
up for that challenge.

Speaker 14 (01:31:11):
What has it been like for you?

Speaker 11 (01:31:13):
Yeah, I'm grateful for the opportunity to be in this
spot now. I'm grateful to be a Kook. I rely
so much on the on the team that we've built.
I think we've got incredible partnerships on our staff and
the adversity that we've gone through, which is a significant
amount as Koug's, it's kind of galvanized us together. I
think it's we hold each other accountable, but care about

(01:31:35):
each other too and as a family. And I've taken this,
you know, I've been in this department now for or
at the university for over five years. I've seen the
legacy PAC twelve, I saw the grace period that we got.
Now I see what's an incredibly wonderful opportunity in front
of us with the new PAC twelve. I've taken some

(01:31:56):
of this personally. My family loves Pullman. They don't want
to be anywhere else. I've been all bought in on
the koug since day one. There's nothing quite like you
mentioned the hugs at the beginning, but like a kug hug,
like when you see those folks that come with some
of them to travel five six hours for a Cougar
football Saturday. There's nothing like that. And so my wife

(01:32:19):
is all in on this. You make sure that the
spouses and the partners are and the kids have playdates
and meet and greets and so that you know, it's
all about building this culture. It's a special, special thing
and Cougs are authentic and they care about each other
and it's a place like I've never experienced before, and
I wouldn't change it for anything. But that's part of
why again, I want to see this succeed, and I

(01:32:41):
know that there's a pathway for it.

Speaker 9 (01:32:43):
I know that sometimes the families of people in athletics,
whether you be coaches, players or an administration, sometimes get
forgotten about. And I grew up in a football family
and my dad is a football coach, and that connection
that you can have between all of the families regardless
of who it is, especially in Pullman because it is

(01:33:05):
quite isolated. I mean, it's one of one. They only
made one poem in Washington. Absolutely, it's really nice to.

Speaker 14 (01:33:12):
Hear that too.

Speaker 9 (01:33:12):
And I have gotten to know some coaches who have
come through throughout my time here, and I still talk
to them. And I'm just a stupid reporter on the
sidelines chasing you around trying to get stories and everything
and tell the story of the game. But I have
always been treated like family there and that is really
important to me.

Speaker 11 (01:33:31):
Similar with our student athletes too, where we've heard stories
and had conversation with some of our student athletes that
have transferred on or left, and they always talk about
how special their time in Pullman was, and that's something
that we can control. Might not always be able to
We've been pretty successful on closing out deals here recently,
but maybe the culture piece is something that we can

(01:33:53):
control and embracing the families and the kids so that
when the coaches or staff are there, they don't have
to worry about is my family homesick? Are they not
finding community to be supported and we can deliver their
best at their jobs because we know that their other
portions of their families and their personal lives are taken
care of us. I think my wife thinks she's found
her calling in life, like she's embraced this full on,

(01:34:16):
and that just makes that much easier to just go
attack every day and we're having fun doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:34:22):
Well, I'm really glad to hear that. And I don't
have to say welcome to Pueman. Well, first of all,
we're in Seattle right now, but you've been there and
you're growing it and you're up for the challenge that all.
It's not just in Washington State, it's everywhere. It is
a challenge in college athletics right now because we're in
uncharted territory.

Speaker 14 (01:34:43):
One last thing before I let you go, what can
people do? There's kooks that listen here.

Speaker 9 (01:34:47):
People don't realize how many cooks are actually in the
Seattle market.

Speaker 14 (01:34:50):
How can they help? Where should they help? What should
they do?

Speaker 5 (01:34:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:34:54):
I think there's exciting times for the fall ahead of us,
and the gateway to get involved is ticket. Season tickets
are on sale now for football. We've got to reimagined
game day experience at gisa field, bigger scoreboard, new lights
that sync with sound, that will be colorized, new turf,
so we can have a completely reimagined Cougar football Saturday,

(01:35:14):
more theatrical, something you're not gonna want to miss. And
then our Cougar Athletic Fund. You can give to scholarships
through the CEF website and that's also where you can
give for nil and rev share. There's all sorts of
opportunities for that. Start with tickets. Give if you can,
and it doesn't have to be a huge amount of money.
It's one hundred dollars to be a CEF member and

(01:35:37):
we continue to grow that. We've got to move that forward.
So there's plenty of opportunities. If neither of those can happen,
give your time, give your energy, give the support. Word
of mouth goes a long way in the times that
we're in, so a lot of opportunities to get involved.
Then we need everyone to reach our potential.

Speaker 9 (01:35:53):
Yeah, and maybe I'll just high five to you while
I'm out there running around on the sideline deal. I
am very happy to have you at the home and
I appreciate you coming into studio and spending your time.

Speaker 11 (01:36:03):
Thanks so much, great to see you go.

Speaker 2 (01:36:05):
Koog's go Kooks. There you go.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
That's John Harlow, new athletic director at Washington State, joining
us here on in the studio. You talked to Jesse
the other day, so it didn't get a chance to
run that the other day. So we throwed up there
right now. Are we got a lot of text coming
in four nine four five to one on the Tacoma
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text line. We'll get to those coming up next. Also,
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Speaker 2 (01:36:59):
Okay, uh, what do we got it? What do we got? Text?

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Four nine four five one, first one that pops up
that I see four two five. Decided to check out
the YouTube today. I thought Andrews was Luka Doncic can't
tell if that's a compliment. Well, unlike Luca, he's actually
here working. Yeah, true, so it's it's he's not really Luca.

(01:37:25):
I'm gonna get to I'm gonna get to that league
on Monday. I may have I may have done something
dirty last night. Oh no, he doesn't completed that. Okay,
get to that Monday. Luca's got an alley, got a nerd.
Just fame was like Fain said yesterday. I heard him say,

(01:37:46):
we're also saying that Joel and bibs like, you know,
all the players are soft and use Joel and Beiders example,
Jolan Beib's solid. Listen, load management two words load management
And I'm gonna say that's dunch right now.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
I get that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:02):
But you have a league where people just take days
off for no reason besides maybe they're tired. That's a
soft league, right.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
My wrong? Yes, and yeah, I'll be leave it with that. Yes,
I'm not gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
What do you think, Luca.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
I'm not gonna bring soccer into this, but I do
find it funny how everyone calls soccer players soft.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
They try not to miss games. I don't think oh
they do not.

Speaker 2 (01:38:30):
They play through injuries. Canada's best players hurt. Huh Apondo
Davies played yesterday and they're.

Speaker 1 (01:38:37):
Hold his hamstring. Yeah, like he's out. He came in
and got an assist and then got it like he's
that's that's bad. Oh, Canada.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Awful news for a US national fan like myself. Yeah,
you can get well happy. Canadona is good though, right.
They are decent. They're actually moving up as Yeah they are.

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
They're not like, you know, one of the world powerhouses
or anything, but they and they can compete for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:39:02):
All right, let me pop down here. College football is
for tail getting all day. Saturday, Friday stinks is the
four two five two six. Friday is for high school games.
Saturday is college. Sunday is pro hate Wednesday and Thursday football.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Let's see go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
Oh sorry, guys, don't complain about your jobs. There are
people way worse jobs every day, whether it doesn't matter.
You sound like ales.

Speaker 2 (01:39:27):
Where we complain about our jobs today. No, I didn't think,
so let's see. Oh do do do?

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Michael says, very simpl Fridays are Friday, school, Saturday is
supposed to college Sunday. We rejoice for the NFL NFL
has kind of changed that though. God it sounds like,
so the NFL schedule comes out next Thursday, Thursday. Yeah,
sounding more and more like we could have a Seahawks
Christmas Day game.

Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
I don't hate that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Here's a funny. I really don't because I don't have
to cover anymore. If you did, I'm kind of in
My kids are older, I'm okay with it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Now you have the pure fan perspective with that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Yeah, I think the Christmas Games four nine four one.
Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like the Christmas
Games last year were bad, Like they weren't good, and
I'm not watching the other thing on Christmas, which would
be the National Basketball Association.

Speaker 2 (01:40:21):
So yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Think we did. There were two times I believe that
we traveled. One time, for sure, we traveled on Christmas Day.
Back when I was covering them. We had a Christmas
Eve game in Dallas years ago. Earl was still here.
Was the Earl Thomas come get me to Jason Garrett
thing that was. That's Craig. If he was there for that,

(01:40:46):
that was a nightmare. Yeah, He's like, come get me.
And it took like I don't even know how long
for earl to finally come in do his post game
and for the team to leave, we had to wait
for him, and like that was the height.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
Of earl being an earl.

Speaker 1 (01:41:02):
Yeah, that's a turnative thing, how to do extra Like, yeah,
that was I didn't like that traveling because we traveled.
The next morning was Christmas. We flew and I had
both my photographers with me. I had young kids, and
that sucked.

Speaker 2 (01:41:13):
I felt bad for them.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
Meanwhile, I did find out something that weekend. At least
in Dallas, you can snake through and your carry on
little mini bottles. Oh, so I brought.

Speaker 2 (01:41:25):
I took care of the boys.

Speaker 1 (01:41:26):
We had Dunkin Donuts and some Irish coffees that morning
before the board of that plane, I was nice, Yeah, yeah,
what else we got here? Uh, let's see you get
more eyes if you're a standalone game, it's your exposure
for the university. I don't Here's the thing, I understand
that comment. If you're trying to get more eyes on
you by a high school player who you're trying to recruit,

(01:41:47):
if that's what you're looking for, which is probably all
that matters, because you don't care about the rest of
the country liking your program, right, Well, those guys are
wait for it, playing thank you? Uh, pretty sure. The
NFL played Friday last year, opening weekend and only playing
Thursday game more days. Yeah, they did play the the
the one game last year they played on the Friday

(01:42:08):
thanks to Was it last year two years ago? I
want to say it was two years ago? Actually, which
one a Friday game? No, it was last year they
put it. They played international Friday game last year, right, yes,
I do believe. Yeah, it was it in Mexico City,
but that But the reasoning this year is that they
wanted to play Thursday the national game because they did
say that they don't want to play on the Friday.
So instead they'll make the defending Super Bowl champion play

(01:42:30):
on a Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:42:31):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:42:32):
Like they might as well be Toledo and Western Michigan
playing in the MAC. That's what you're doing right now.
They might get a little bit better numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
So I'm like, maybe slightly.

Speaker 1 (01:42:42):
NBAS like soccer is soft, Soccer is like NBA is soft.
Can play about your jobs after Thursday nine games and
who gets.

Speaker 2 (01:42:47):
To stop it? Dude?

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
If you just don't like us, I'm gonna just say something.
I haven't said this in the Zilliadears. If you don't
like us, don't listen. Let's go somewhere else SOFTI comes
on it. Three, I don't need you. We don't need you. Okay,
we don't need you with the three five, four of
your last digits. Go away, just go away. I don't
I don't need you. I don't need I really don't

(01:43:10):
need you today, so you can go. Other people we.

Speaker 2 (01:43:14):
Love though, Yeah, we love everyone else.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
M every silver STIPs tip off game one for the
HL Championship. We've talked about that all day today.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (01:43:25):
See now I'm gonna get mad on a Friday before
I leave, and I don't want to do that, so
I'm gonna stop.

Speaker 2 (01:43:28):
Reading these things. Let's see what.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
Good I'm glad to Friday games. When you're media Oacre
went and won't win ten games, you get a crap schedule.
I don't know if that. I think they do like
the Seattle market, to be honest with you, it's a
big TV market.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:43):
See how here Purdue doesn't give you much and Iowa
doesn't give you much in terms of like TV market,
like Illinois and Northwestern. We brought this up with Danny
and Danny talked about it earlier. You're in the same
category as Illinois Northwestern. The other teams are the team
two games. I don't know how Chicago reacts to college football,

(01:44:03):
but those are both Chicago teams. Basically, Northwestern's in Chicago.
Champagnes close enough to Chicago, right, So I get I
get what they're doing in the sense they want the
LA markets. They are for sure going to get one.
Fresno State USC isn't the most compelling matchup in the world,
but it's the LA TV market. Seattle's number twelve in
the in the nation. That's a big TV market. Oregon

(01:44:24):
gets a game because why they're what they're Probably they're
not probably because I've seen the numbers. They're in the
top five in terms of TV draws in the country.
That's what Fox paid a zillion dollars for television rights
and for the Big ten to be the Big whatever
it is, Big eight team. Yeah, so I get why
certain teams are on. I just think playing one team
having to play back to back is ridiculous. Others don't,

(01:44:46):
I know. Dick and Softy disagree. I think they're very
much in the minority with husky fans, like very very
much in the minority with husky fans. Let's see, Taco
time fried britos looks like Cathot's what.

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
No, you're not what are you talking about?

Speaker 5 (01:45:06):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
I don't think there's a Listen now, I'm gonna defend
Taco Time for a second. I think I think I
think we have a couple of national treasures or like
just true treasures in Seattle. Taco Time is that the
if it's not at the top of the list, it's
close to it. And the burritos, the Krispy Beef and

(01:45:28):
Krispy Bean burritos, And I honestly don't have a favorite.

Speaker 2 (01:45:31):
It's like my kids. I can't really pick one.

Speaker 3 (01:45:34):
They are probably easily easier picked between your kids and
between taco Time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:40):
So some days it's a being Chrispy Bean, somedays Krispy Bee.
I'm not a huge hard taco guy, but if I am,
I'm going to Taco Time. Yeah, done perfectly, you can
eat them fine. I love them sty quick yeah. I mean,
I'm usually a natural soft taco beef, but Chrispy the
other one is Dix. I mean, I just I will
not take slander on the show about Dick's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
Not at all.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
Ever, no one can say bad things about it. Yeah,
one guy that did isn't here anymore. He's gone, So
you don't don't slander Dicks. There was a thing I
saw on Instagram and it's actually a legitimate account that
does stuff in Seattle, right.

Speaker 2 (01:46:11):
Oh god, did they say it was overrated?

Speaker 9 (01:46:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
No, they they were raiting the top seafood restaurants with
a view or whatever, and they hammered ivers and actually,
you know what, they also kind of hammered dukes, and
I what just because a place as an institution and
some maybe even called a tourist trap, I don't care,

(01:46:33):
doesn't mean it's not good. I would challenge. Have you
like I I went. I want to say, like two
years ago, we went to ivers Acres of Clams. Yeah,
not for the out to take out.

Speaker 2 (01:46:44):
We actually went in. Okay, damn good, really good, really good.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
Yeah, like solid seafood restaurant and oh what happens to
be in a place it's a tourist Okay? Fine, I
saw somebody the same thing. Didn't like Anthony's really what like, who's.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
To hammer chinooks? At Salmon Bay? They did like Chinooks. Okay,
that's antics. I think it's part of the change. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
it's part of the chain.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Yeah, it was my go. It was better when it
was the old wharf. Ye back when I was working
there in the eighties and nineties, I could, I kid,
it wasn't the wharf. Everything we had was deep fried,
like I cooked there.

Speaker 2 (01:47:19):
Yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
It was if it was. We went through a zillion
pounds of corn meal a day. Great, you know, dredge dip,
dredge fry. Thanks for coming. But it was an institution.
If if you remember the old wharf, if you're old
enough for remember the old wharf before they demolish it
and built what is now of Chinooks, you'll know what
I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:47:39):
Institution.

Speaker 1 (01:47:40):
Four finger cocktails and they had one to two bars,
two actual bars. One was a bar slash lounge that
had like nightclub acts. This is before the casinos were around.
And then incredible breakfast spot. Yeah yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Yeah. Anyway, we're good, We're good. Is there any other
funny ones in there?

Speaker 3 (01:48:04):
There is a positive one? What everyone is forty five?
Everyone's so negative. I'm a husky and I love the
show yin beg it up. It's a good Bundan dog.
Oh this is the this We could do this too.
Has Jess got a hold of Clifford yet? We're looking
forward to the segment. No, but she's working on she is,
actually she's working on Clifford. She I hope everybody gets

(01:48:32):
a chance to listen to Clifford this weekend. In the meantime,
we'll take a break to come back soft.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
He joins us. Next his first guest.

Speaker 13 (01:48:47):
Hey, y'all, it's me Clifford with the Clifford Show. And
I can't agree more sporting events are expensive. You know
what's free me with the Clifford Show when we talk
about live food, music. And welcome our first guest tomorrow,
Dave Mallard. We're driving with Dave. Tune into the Clifford
Show when we talk about anything we want because nobody listens.

(01:49:10):
It's named Clifford with the Clifford Show.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
So you're gonna be the first guest on the Clifford Show.
Can't do driving with Dave anymore.

Speaker 15 (01:49:17):
I told you, well, you better tell Clifford that man
better tell you better.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
That's a big week for you, cliff Clifford Show. And
I would sitting home. I did watch you on the
Paul Sylvie Chris Hegan.

Speaker 8 (01:49:30):
There you go.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
You were really good. Did you watch our YouTube stream? No?
I mean no, come on, man, no, no, we can.
We can.

Speaker 15 (01:49:38):
We can use all the numbers we can get. No, Okay,
help out a guy here.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
Well here's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:43):
Log onto YouTube and just keep it rolling. Here's the problem.
What I should have done?

Speaker 6 (01:49:47):
Then?

Speaker 1 (01:49:47):
Now I'm kind of going back. I should be listening
to Greg Bell, but instead I heard that you were
wrong with with Egan and Sylvie. So I had to
watch that absolute train wreck Destination TV.

Speaker 15 (01:49:59):
Baby, don't even know what the hell we were talking about, right,
We're talking about the Mariners, the Seahawks, and then it
devolves into god knows what, which I love that there's
a garbage can.

Speaker 2 (01:50:08):
We need more of that.

Speaker 15 (01:50:09):
Yeah, there was a garbage can, literally a garbage can conversation.
They've got an old school sonic logo garbage Can, the
big metal one on their set. I have the weasel
underneath my desk. Saw that my wife will just not
let me get rid of for some reason. Yeah, is
timmy like nostalgic about stuff? Okay, here's the problem. She
watches that show the hoarders all the time. Oh god,

(01:50:31):
and where they save biggers and stuff like that, like everything, right,
And she's convinced that we're hoarders. Well those people have
that's a medical condition, correct, right, so you're that you
got a problem.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
She's paranoid that we're here's the thing, like, like we're
not Like.

Speaker 2 (01:50:48):
No, you're not a hoarder at all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:50):
We do keep now here's you're getting a haircut and
saving the hair right, No, like you're a hoarder. Like
here we can get we can get two cars and
the band aid things like that. My thing is, can
you get your cars in your garage? We can't we
get two cars in the garage. Do we have clutter
every room? We can have somebody to stay in right, So, no,
we're not worse, but we do keep a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
Here's the thing. Two kids, they're both in their twenties. Sure.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
She goes in the other day and she says, I
got a because when they were both well, especially when
Brianni was born, that was all pictures like you printed
up like you went to.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
The little little shack.

Speaker 1 (01:51:22):
Oh yeah, the Kodak hunt or or like my favorite
Bartel pay Less, go see it. Yeah, So we've got
a zillion pictures of the of the girl child, not
as many.

Speaker 5 (01:51:35):
Of the boy.

Speaker 15 (01:51:37):
Keifer, I gotta be honest with you. They just didn't
care as much pal when you were born.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
Trust me, bone of contention. I think he told me
bone of contention.

Speaker 15 (01:51:46):
She first told me once that you told him that
you think he may have been a mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:51:50):
Well, is that true. I didn't say a mistake.

Speaker 15 (01:51:52):
A drunken knight in Pluma with Tammy. I didn't same
mistake nine months later? Whoa, I same mistake. Never use
those terms now, No, No, I'm kidding. Well, but you're
so right, So you're right, and put all these pictures away,
and she's like, I got no room to put Well,
everybody of our age. I don't know, Andrews, if you
have them or not. It has photo albums, right, We've
got probably five or six of the big photo albums

(01:52:16):
with thirty five pages a piece, the sticky all that
you guys. Ever, we got married in two thousand and nine,
got it. I had to think about that first. I
hope I'm getting this right.

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
Two thousand and nine.

Speaker 15 (01:52:29):
So it's been it's been seventeen years right, but we
dated for five so we we've been to time out.
We've been together for two years. Yeah, seventeen years ago.
Seventeen years ago. That was you were there. Oh yeah,
a Husky see him someday. And it came out of
the helmet car. Oh, Dick Bart did the wedding. I sat,
I sat right in front of Elbridge. Yeah you did

(01:52:50):
it did And he's chirping me about the Husky Stadium
and I said, this is right where Alex bring through
the touchdown past six months ago abroad against.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
We talked to me since we got married.

Speaker 15 (01:52:58):
And then they blew the stadium up after they said,
you know what, instead of just cleaning this place up,
let's just blow the whole thing. Rank this real quick.
Don't ask me first or second marriage please?

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
Oh no, no, God, I wouldn't do that.

Speaker 15 (01:53:10):
Well, I got people that I work with or have
work with before, So I'll be totally transparent here because
I've told the story on the area people know. My
first engagement was at Fenway Park in Boston. My first
wedding was at Safego Field at end Plate. My second
engagement was at Heck Edmondson Pavilion. The last place Gina's
wedding ring was before it was on her finger was
in John Brockman's underwear. And then they got married at

(01:53:32):
the fifty yard line on Husky Stadium. So then somebody
who used to work is like, where's your next one?

Speaker 2 (01:53:39):
With that's climate place?

Speaker 13 (01:53:40):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:53:41):
All right? Then it was so rank the best wedding
parties because they're all in the same time frame, like
seventeen years.

Speaker 15 (01:53:50):
Going to leave me, I'll give you three. Is Ashley
Ryan's on there? Ashley okay? On the water there? Yeah,
Sebrowski's right. I was not at Sebrowski's wedding, was not.

Speaker 1 (01:54:00):
There, and yours okay, so you can't, okay, cause Sebrowski's
was the bad one for me. That's the one where
we at divorced.

Speaker 2 (01:54:05):
Well, was that Wherekeifer was conceived? No, no, no, he
was already.

Speaker 1 (01:54:10):
That's where U.

Speaker 2 (01:54:12):
That's oh yeah, it was bad. It was a bad night.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
That was well. What happened was is we somebody bought
the red bear in Sebrowski a like a big thing,
a crown royal right like bottle, and it's already an
open bar. And I was at a table with Rondo,
and Rondo had his Rondo brings his own drinks, so
he had all this champagne under the and Divish was there?

(01:54:36):
Actually was there that fine? Somehow we went from having
some champagne with the Rondo's nice and fine night to
all of a sudden divish Sebrowski me the former ten
to one guy here and everything else.

Speaker 2 (01:54:49):
His name's Pucket whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:54:50):
Crushing, crushing the Crown war, crushing the Crown war for you.
And then I woke up in the car the way
home to my wife just yelling at oh wow, so
you passed out in the car and the way actually
Ryan wedding, which came like what six months later?

Speaker 2 (01:55:04):
Yeah, I don't remember.

Speaker 15 (01:55:05):
I might have been as I'm not sure if I
was there or not. Josh and I butted heads a lot,
to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:55:12):
And so Ashley's Ashley's wedding comes up, and the entire
way we're driving there, I'm getting lectured.

Speaker 2 (01:55:18):
You better not do this again. That was what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:55:21):
So I got there, guys are like, hey, I'm good,
I'll have a beer real quick. That's like I was like,
and as she's like, what is wrong with you? I
go well, yeah, because there's still pictures floating around to
the first one.

Speaker 15 (01:55:31):
I blame Divish more than anybody. Well, when your wife
has your balls in her pocket, you better behave. Yours
was great. You may not get yours was good. Yours
was good. I'd be I behave for yours. But the
best thing about yours is you let us kids come right.
So Keith and Brie were there, that's right, and you
had like the mini cupcakes, had a cupcake bar instead
of a cake. Unbelievable, very best thing ever I loved.

(01:55:51):
I think one of them threw up when they got home,
but that was okay fine. Jackson's wedding was fun, especially
when his dad introduced me as Dave Softy Mahler from
seven to ten ESPN.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
That was nice. And then what did I do? Jackson?
Did I throw something at your dad? What did I do? Now?
What happened? In Jackson? Can't hear?

Speaker 7 (01:56:11):
You?

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
Remind me what happened? Yeah? Did I throw something? I
couldn't hear anything beause Andrews had his mind. Did I
throw something at your father at your wedding? Yeah, Napkin.
It was great, but maybe my favorite moment of the
entire way it was a used napkin. Ye, well he
got the wrong station. Yeah he deserved.

Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
What's funny is he had it written down correctly as
kJ R. He just said it wrong. So that tells
us what his favorite exactly? Are you sure he wasn't
hoping Dave Wyman was there?

Speaker 2 (01:56:36):
He probably was. Oh God, did you play a linebacker
for the seat? Look at me?

Speaker 15 (01:56:40):
Don't I look like I was Stanford? Interesting? You played
for the Bears. Well, I I wasn't there. It's funny
that we're talking about wedding stories because I have busted
Millan's balls about this forever. I was not at his
wedding because I did not know him back then. Personally,
I knew who he was, obviously, husky legend. Yeah, who
beat the Oklahoma Sooners in the Orange Bowl. He served

(01:57:03):
carrot cake at his wedding. Oh what are you doing?
Exactly my point?

Speaker 2 (01:57:06):
What what dude?

Speaker 15 (01:57:07):
I'm buying you a gift. I'm putting in the effort.
Some folks are flying in from out of town. I'm
renting this monkey suit. Can I at least get like
a nice dessert and I get carrot cake? And I
don't mind carrot cake it's okay. I hate I just
don't want it at a freaking wedding. And I finally
a couple of years ago. Next time you talk to
Hugh you can ask him I finally a couple of

(01:57:28):
years ago, got him to relent and admit.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
That was a bad idea.

Speaker 15 (01:57:31):
So bring that up on hardcore football. Absolutely, it's a
good topic for the middle of June. By the way,
all right, once the schedules out all that, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Some things you just don't bring up. Bring it up,
it's fine, trust me.

Speaker 15 (01:57:42):
It's a the story about the stereo when he came
to the house, all right, fact, that's obviously one. But
the carrot cake thing, the fact that he finally has
seen the wrong in serving carrot cake at a wedding.

Speaker 2 (01:57:55):
He admitted it, and I'm proud of him. Stereo. Can
you bring up or not? Sure? We can bring up? Okay,
someday we'll do that. Well about tomorrow, Okay, do it tomorrow.
We're gonna preview cross Talk tomorrow. Stay tuned for the
best Millin story ever.

Speaker 5 (01:58:08):
Ever.

Speaker 15 (01:58:09):
Hey, don't we have a couple of potential owners for
the Seahawks. For God's sakes, we're talking about wedding cakes.
One guys from the bear Son being a mistake.

Speaker 1 (01:58:17):
The hell's going never said that, never a mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
What are you doing today? Well, we're gonna talk about this.

Speaker 15 (01:58:23):
I got a couple of new potential ownership groups for
the Hawks. We're going to dive into that big time.
Bob whitson former Sonic GM. You know, Bob traded. Bob
will join us at four o'clock today. We'll talk some
NBA expansion with him. It been Novi Williams who works
for Sportco. He was the guy that first broke this
story this morning about these two groups. He'll be with
us at four thirty. Brett boone over Zoom at five.

(01:58:44):
The fun with Audio Little you make the call.

Speaker 2 (01:58:46):
All that today. That's a real good ship plus plus
Dick Fane is here. Oh he is, Okay, he's here,
He's back. All right, all right.

Speaker 15 (01:58:54):
For the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness, this is
paddle day saying so long everyone,

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