Furness Show 6-29: Mike Benton, Mollywhop Monday with Chris Crawford and Nathan Bishop and Danny Jackson

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
No from the Star Rentles Sports to us your ninety
three point three kJ RFMS sports headlines.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Rod t I frostbrewed, corps light, choose chill, M's bullpen
imploded yesterday, Good word draft, Good word A Guardians rally
for a six to five win. By the way, the
MS lit four to one going into the eighthing. You'll
be shocked to know that Michael Rucker and Josh Simpson
were the guys that gave up the runs. Now you're
asking yourself, who the hell are Michael Rucker and Josh Simpson. Well,

(00:29):
we're all asking ourselves that. H Hey, they just scored
more than three runs for the first time though since
June twelfth. That's a good news. They host the Angels
three game series beginning tonight. That's also good news because
the Angels aren't good. World Cup updates. Brazil and Japan
just finished Brazil two to one in stoppage time gets
the game winning goal. Germany and Paraguay face off Netherlands

(00:50):
and Morocco Tonight's for in his sources goals say words
playing a pursuit of Lebron James and free agency Anthony
Davis via trade Ramon Green declined his twenty seven million
dollar player option this morning. Damn, that's crazy. Let's go.
We've got the first of the round of thirty two
Monday games in the books. Brazil Japan over Brazil eking

(01:10):
out a two to one victory. It's all the matters.
Just get a win, win, win, that's all the matters,
and they got to win away we go, Big show
come up today. Mike Ben's gonna join us abut twelve
twenty Today. We'll kind of put a recap in a
bow on what happened over the weekend on Friday Saturday
at the Crack can hitting into free agency for the
NHL tomorrow. Kracking are still kind of the center of
the NHL. I'd say, crosshairs of many as well. We'll

(01:31):
get to that coming up here in a few minutes.
Malli wat Monday one o'clock. Mariner fans, you do not
want to miss this. The boys are here standing by.
Can't wait. Nathan and Chris a lot to discuss more
in a moment. Danny Jackson on the World Cup coming
up at two pm today. Greg and I were just
talking before we get to the Mariners and stuff. First

(01:54):
of all, drific game and Brazil gets the win. This
is a scary thing about the round of thirty two, well,
the knockout stages. This is a scary thing. Like you
are prone to an upset, You are prone to upsets,
you are prone to something unusual happening. Teams can sit
back and try to play for a draw and then
see if they can get something done in overtime thirty minutes,

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no golden goal, and if not over time, maybe just
maybe you win in penalty kicks. I mean it's that
this is where underdogs and soccer can can make some
make some hay have some things happen. So pretty interesting.
Brazil had that. But the weird thing is and I
was gonna get into this. I'll do this later on
this week. The world customin Sensation. It's been awesome. It

(02:42):
has been just I think, I don't know how how
we can't say it's it has not exceeded our expectations.
It's been really cool. You're volved with at TRAV all
the time. Yeah, it's I mean, it's got to be
fun as hell. What you get, what you guys are
doing is great. To these shows. I listen on Friday.
So good. The feedback's been good. Everything's been great. I

(03:06):
will tell for the life of me, I cannot figure
out why soccer decides that they can't just time a
match to the second. The subjective nature of timing games
is just and I know it's And they got better,
gotten better at it too. I don't know how they
could get worse, but I don't know how, and even better,
Like this game went a minute an hour it went,

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It went ten minutes and forty three seconds after the
ninety minute mark they had put up on the screen
six minutes. It went four minutes, almost five minutes after that.
Now there was a goal scored in stoppage time. It
was not a three and a half minute celebration. I
can just tell you that right now. Just odd. Yet,
if you're off side by a whisker, if if your

(03:52):
nostril hair is sticking over that line with their little
you know, advanced technology, no goal offside? Askarn how that
work out on Friday. That was brutal. That was absolutely brutal.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Here.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
But what an atmosphere Friday. What an atmosphere we've had,
What an atmosphere all these places have had. It's been
it's been sensational, It really has been Danny Jackson will
join us coming up today two o'clock. We'll kind of
go through around this is really this is it's been.
The group stages at times were great. Some of the
group stage matches, eh, whatever. This is what it's all.
I mean, loser out games now from now on, awesome

(04:27):
fun on our soil with great crowds all across the
country and no better crowds than here in Seattle, none period.
And the story it's just it's been the best. So
we'll get that coming up with Danny coming up at two'clock.
Alli want Monday. I mentioned listen, we've talked about this
a few times in the show this year. What is funny?

(04:49):
I'll mention this with the boys I was watching. I
was over at my daughter and her boyfriend's house yesterday.
We're doing some tough family stuff and we're hanging out
and we're watching their big Mariners fans. My daughter well
well known that you know, she gets very angry with
the baseball team. But we're watching the up four to one, like,
and we're kind of keeping eye on going back and
forth between that and the Canada game, which was even

(05:09):
at that point, and Canada's a knockout game. All right, well,
let's flip it over a marriage. It's eight that they
have this thing in the bag. So we turned it off.
Going to the bottom of the ninth or eighth i
should say, and watching the end Canada game had a
remarkable finish, late goal stoppage time, and then shockingly the
South Africa got like another twelve minutes to try to

(05:30):
tie it up because we just want to let it
keep going because soccer doesn't know how to keep time.
But then all of a sudden, my daughter's boyfriend he's like, hey,
you're not gonna believe this. I'm like, what he goes,
it's six'. Four i'm, like what are you talking? About
like The marritor, Game like they're winning six four, Right he, goes,
No, no they're about to lose six,' four like what? The

(05:53):
HELL and i, started thinking like. They're angry, everyone's angry my,
son's Angry and, i'm like this team has has really
they've really kind of tested. THE patients i think is
the best way to. Put it of. Our MARKET and
i don't know how you guys would would would would,
phrase it but four nine four to. FIVE one i
just feel like they've tested. Everyone's patience PEOPLE are i,

(06:16):
would say annoyed with this baseball team, right now totally,
just annoyed like just kind of when are you going
to get your? Blank TOGETHER and, i, know listen part
of it is yesterday you have two guys that are
not used to being in those type of high, leverage
situations and they're in a high. Leverage, situation well part
of the problem is is because you're insistent on this

(06:37):
six man rotation or a piggyback although that got scrapped.
Last minute really that got scrapped. Last minute so you
so you're down. One reliever one extra starter means you're
down one reliever because you're only able TO carry x
number of players as thirteen pictures on, your roster so
you're already playing kind of, AND listen i don't think

(06:59):
if we want to give the team a little Bit
Excuse matt brash being out. Doesn't help like that does
not help. At all so as you go through that
process like you're, You Know dan wilson's getting absolutely crucified
Today and i'm sure he will at one o'clock with
the boys. AS well i Understand That dan wilson's also
working with what, he has what he's been handed. To
Him the bizarreto thing made. No sense ten pitches and.

(07:22):
You're done and it's Weird that I'm Throwing edward Bizardo
into Edward and bizardo into in a situation, where like wait,
a second isn't this guy? Last year yes, he Is,
Yes toronto yes yes. He is but would you Rather
have bizardo in there for? Another Inning or Rucker and
simpson because then you had to go to spire as
a bridge and all. That stuff it just was and

(07:42):
the reluctance To put munno's in and have him ready
if things got a. Little sketchy none of us have
managed a. Baseball game none of us have Been In dan.
Wilson's shoes i'm always really hesitant. Me personally that DOESN'T
mean i don't want other people to have their fun

(08:03):
with it and say They're say i'm real hesitant with
jobs like, a manager a, head coach an, offensive coordinator.
Defensive coordinator but as sports fans or, even media you
can usually look around, and, see, oh yeah this this
doesn't make, Sense right this just doesn't, make sense and
you kind of know if maybe something needs. To happen

(08:25):
it feels. THAT way i don't think it. Will anything
it will take Place With, Dan wilson, but boy is
they're just an issue, right now like a pretty significant
issue with. This team they're, just listen they're the, most
talented they're the, best team at least on paper in
their division and should be one of the top four

(08:45):
or five teams in base In The. American league but
there's something. Truly missing and maybe it's, the manager maybe
it's just the way the bullpen's. BEING utilized i think at,
some point you, know what we can Stop Blaming. Dan
wilson let's start blaming. The players is it a? CLUBHOUSE issue,
I yeah i. DON'T know I don't I'm NOT and

(09:07):
i think even if you're in, the clubhouse then maybe
you could Answer that. I'm NOT so i don't want
to go down. That ROAD and i say that only, This,
way travis is that the one. LOCKER room i was
around for a long time As a SEAHAWKS and i can, tell,
you yeah there WERE times. I could, IN fact I

(09:28):
think i said right After the arizona game and They
fired pe THE year i didn't thin people wud get
fired by ANY means i never, said THAT but i
didn't think that. Would HAPPEN but i also can understand
why it. Did, HAPPEN right i am not In the,
marrior's CLUBHOUSE so i. Don't know BUT when i say
it's maybe up to the at what point do the
are the players culpable for not being, good enough not being,

(09:51):
good enough not performing to the level that they're expected,
to perform Whether It's, cal rawley WHETHER it's, i mean by,
some metrics they're the worst defensive team In The, american
league not, fielding percentage just by. Some metrics and we'll
get too That with Chris. And, NATE yeah, i like
at what point of the? Players culpable you've got to,
Be better you've got to. Perform better manager puts you,

(10:12):
out there he's expecting you TO, DO x Y. Or,
z right you've got to. Be better but there's, Something
WRONG so i. DON'T know i feel like annoyance is
probably the. Best word just annoyed is how fans are feeling.
Right now but it's not a healthy relationship between the
baseball team and their fans here in this market. For sure,
right now, all right let's, Do this we'll take, a
break Come Back, mikey Bentton the captain's going to join Us,

(10:34):
malliwap monday coming up. One pm the boys, are here.
Can't wait i'm sometimes it just rights itself A. Malliwat
monday and that's the case this week right here on
ninety three POINT. Three, kterfm alrighty ladies, and gentlemen that

(10:58):
music means. One thing time talking a little. Racking hockey
going to wrap up what happened with, the weekend what's
coming up in the next. Two days no better guy
to do it with Than the. Captain himself he is
the captain Of the Krack And, audio network the man
in charge Of, Network Central. Mike, benton michael how.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
Are you i'm doing great because you gave me the hans.
And RETREATMENT now i feel. Officially, official hey We Had
jerry bruckheimer There. On friday he was down in the
draft room. HANGING out, I know i just.

Speaker 5 (11:26):
MISSED him, i know.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
A pretty awesome one.

Speaker 4 (11:28):
Days.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
Though yeah he said to pass along best wishes To
the Crack And audio network into, You Specifically so i'm
doing that. Right now.

Speaker 4 (11:35):
I'm sure i'm sure he. Did so so it just
plays volume maya sentiments right.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
On, Back, oh mikey what a what a week? It
was what a week it was for the For The.
Seattle crack and it started eight days ago the announcement
that they had Picked Up macki samiskevitch From The florida
panthers and a really kind of a, good deal like makes,
them better helps our hockey team for a couple. Draft

(12:02):
picks and then They resigned bobby McMahon And Then mikey
all hell. Breaks loose the story comes out before the
Draft on Thursday That, jason robertson one of the top
players in, the league is looking for. New digs mostly
he wants. More money dallas doesn't seem to be wanting
to give it. To him seattle takes a mighty, mighty

(12:22):
swing doesn't get him because, HE says i don't want to.
Go there despite the fifteen million dollars on. The table
that men ends up Being trash seattle for the, next
well it's still. Going on nobody Likes The. Seattle cracking
nobody wants to play in. The city the city is.
A dump and that was said by the way that.
Was said there was a report out there, that, oh

(12:43):
yeah players that come in or you know for road
games are really not impressed by. The city they don't.
Like it i'm where are? You, staying like are? You
staying you?

Speaker 4 (12:50):
Actually here by, the way one one radio Show in
toronto said that we've heard that you know a couple
of blocks Around, the yeah it's. SUPER dangerous, I go,
i mean for crying, Out loud i've gone two three
blocks away for a. POSTGAME beverage i still a more
danger at your local.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Country, club yeah. It's ridiculous it's IT'S like, i said
it just turned Into trash. Seattle time and then the
draft Comes, on friday and we had a great show,
With You, Al kanisky everett fits you big shout out
and thank You To, terry ryan our engineer who just
did a hell of a job putting. It together and
we had fun leading into The The around egypt game

(13:27):
HERE on kjr, as well they got a player, that
Is as, bot said was a Guy, that's frankly they always.
Say This john schneider says it, every YEAR every gm,
says it and. EVERY sport i can't believe that player.
Dropped there but truly we Can't Believe chase reid. Was
there so how would you summarize and and articulate the

(13:49):
last eight Days, In, krakenland.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
WELL if i can ask anybody that if they've been
to a Local six flags park around any Spot Around
north america on what it would, be like MAYBE that,
i think, you know go on that kind of roller
coaster when he had about roughly you know about, you
know a couple of hours, of sleep or you know

(14:14):
some KIND of i, don't know let's say you're not
feeling at one hundred percent that roller coaster ride BASICALLY
described i think this last week in Crack and landy
and let's.

Speaker 3 (14:24):
Just say it.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Wasn't boring let's, just say to kind Of Quote, marshaan.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Lynch it's all about, that. ACTION boss I.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Think i think just starting with the whole McMahon Thing,
in samuskevitch McMahon was the. Obvious ONE and i think
just the names that have been just falling off board left,
and right not Just in Free agency ian but now.
IN trays, i mean you talk about nipping that kind
of deal in, the bud because What if bobby McMahon's
name was out There come july one this week Where

(14:55):
Arguably boom jenner and no disrespect Here To, boone jenner
but he is one of your top ranked names on
the free. Agency board it is frightening to think of
how much you'd have to spend and maybe if you
want to even, spend it while other team that is
in a true contention window could lock. Him down so
obviously great news to get him locked up for about

(15:16):
five point seven mil here for. Six years the SAMUSKEVITST
thing i think, FOR me i said. This earlier it's
a trade that is based, on potential not based. On
resume and let's just, be honest based on who he's
playing Behind on florida on their depth chart on the,
right wing when you Throw In, matthew kachuck when you
Throw In, brad marshan when you throw in other names,

(15:37):
as well EVEN like I Mean, sam reinhart they Just
Got brady kudchuck as well.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
By trade it was pretty clear that he had.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
No future on that. Depth chart so to get a
player like him, who can by some accounts you know
you put up with the, right guys can pop maybe
twenty five. Thirty goals it's a pretty. Solid pickup and
then thing of the fit where he puts himself in for,
you know, this lineup thinking about where he could play
on the wing. WITH McMahon, i mean, my goodness that

(16:04):
is a get your track shoes on kind of line
Haf On matty vanier's, playing There the. ROBERTSON thing, i.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
Mean we discussed this on. THE show i discussed It.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
On Chuck and. BUCK earlier, i, mean hey bad optics
was at. The, point YES do i think it's unfair
to pin this on nobody wants to come to Play. In,
seattle absolutely it. IS unfair i don't want to talk
about the millionaire attack saying McMahon came back here and
came back. By choice but.

Speaker 5 (16:29):
This is Again a dan a g and where we're
seeing more and more players hold all the cards where
they want to.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Go to and it Appears that robertson has got one
thing and one thing, in mind and that's going back
to a team that's in a true. Contention window unfair
or not with how he's treating that. Certain team and
it Might be dallas where, he RESIGNS but i mean
think about where he may want. TO go, I mean
vegas is always in. That conversation florida is always in.
That conversation colorado may be. As well in. That conversation

(16:57):
so to round it out with the draft and that
they got back Here for, CHASE red, i mean it
was just like, everything stenchwise was just washed away in twenty,
four hours and it had really been a while where this,
FAN base, i think could really enjoy something, that substantial
that was so big within the. News CYCLE and, i

(17:19):
mean if.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Memory, serves me correct you and the last time.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
Maybe probably Was The winter classic way Back on july
one of twenty. Twenty, FOUR so i mean you talk
about a moment THAT was i think so important to
bring in a player that is going, TO be i
think potentially a superstar for this team once he, fully
develops who plays such an important position on the, back
end has got a great head on, His SHOULDERS and

(17:44):
i was thinking about the comparisons maybe of, You Know.
Seth jones we Tossed Around john. Carlson's, NAME well I
mean i texted a source who was at the draft
about the upside, for HIM and, I said i can't
believe he felt With, The kraken and that source Told
Me jase reid. Is unreal kale mccar like qualities you

(18:05):
want to be careful what, these comparisons but he's obviously
built a, case where, you know something like this that
is so substantial washes away the bad Stench Of. Jason
robertson it couldn't have come at a, better time and
that's going TO make i think these next few weeks
pretty fun to see what happens Here In Trader Free.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Agency Land The Rookie development camp for Three, Days, Tuesday,
wednesday thursday starts tomorrow At The cracking Community. Ice plex
fans go out there, and Watch and reid will be
on the ICE and i know you and me and
others will be watching him with great interest to see where.
He is he's a little. Bit older he'll turn Nineteen,
in december so we had a late birthday late. Draft
pick so if your birthday's After what september fifteenth of a,

(18:43):
given year then you're considered a late pick and you
go the. Next year so he, you know normally he
would have been picked a. Year ago who knows what would,
Have happened but that extra year he ends up going
Number seven Overdall To Seattle michigan state. This fall my
guess is we'll see him at Least in coachell at
the end of. The year but. Who knows he's a
guy that should be on the fast track. And exciting
but that Doesn't Really and, I'M listen i understand if

(19:07):
you're a, cracking fan you're, sitting home you have, season tickets,
ticket plan whatever, it is you're not Excited About, Chase reed.
YOU'RE not i, get it, YOU know i. Totally understand
you want to? See what tell Me what i'm going
to see? Now, Today, well mikey the reality Of the.
ROBERTSON thing a player turning down what would be the
second largest contract In The National hockey league, RIGHT now

(19:29):
a player turned that down because he quote didn't want
to Come. To seattle we first, of all we haven't
Heard From. Jason robertson, you know like this Is just.
Diesel reports the fact is he turned. Him Down why
more And More elliott freeman reporting again today that it's
because he wants to Stay, in dallas and he wants
to stay where he. Currently is he just needs more

(19:50):
money From The. Dallas stars not sure if he's going to.
Get it That's, why dallas frankly, was allowed was allowing
teams to talk and shop and, you know. Pitch deals
he don't want to. Come here The anti seattle thing,
is just first, of all how weird? Is It? Mike
like we're getting This anti seattle Sentiment From National hockey,
league agents players and. National media and it's Not just

(20:13):
roberts and it's. Other guys we're seeing that all over.
The Place, Palm, tree Sunshine Instant stanley, cup contender that's what. People,
want well that narrows it Down, To, Florida tampa vegas
and maybe pick or choose another team along, the way
if you want to Go, to denver, For example but
it's those. Four teams how weird? Is it, Right, Now
mikey we're Watching The world Cup. In seattle what has

(20:35):
everybody been saying that the best Venue In, north America
including Canada, and mexico but certainly In The, united states
the best venue For The world cup, right now the,
best fans the, best atmosphere. The city how it Looks, Is,
seattle like are We like i'm? MISSING that i understand

(20:57):
if you want to tell me you don't want to
come here because of the fact that they're not An
Instant stanley cup contender right now heading into the, Next
season i'll dance with you, All. Day mikey, On that, I'll, say,
okay Yeah THEY'RE also i would, point, out well if you're,
any good you're gonna make them a. Lot better they
missed the playoffs by a whisker. Last year you come
in they're a a, playoff team and b who knows
how good they. Could BE so i would so that

(21:19):
part had pushed. Back on but telling me that, the
city like, you said there's been people, saying this there's
two or three guys out there reporting the guys Out
of toronto specifically, going, well yeah teams flying. In there
they Didn't like seattle.

Speaker 5 (21:31):
At, all also guess who, you're right?

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Who's That? Jason, gregor, no.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
No no Just the toronto, Based media like we haven't
been through it up here AFTER the alcs, last, year, right.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah exactly they can. GO pound i hope we get
To see toronto in the playoffs and just absolutely molly wop,
Them anyway like guys like that's not, The case like
are we not paying It, TO mikey i just don't.
Get that but it's a chicken and EGG and i
guess that And perception mike.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
Is reality here are TWO thoughts i have.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
WITH this I think, number one listen as far as
us in the media where we are in the.

Speaker 5 (22:02):
Content game but that content game.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
Is going to have some substance. To IT and, i
ASK and i dare, to.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Question how many times have those.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
People who have actually been putting these reports out about
so and so those who want. To come i've, Heard
this I'VE. Heard a i've Heard b i've heard c
have actually put themselves on a plane to come here to.
A Game because i'll tell, you what it is one,
hundred percent like one hundred and eighty degrees different From
what i've heard elsewhere from those who've actually traveled to

(22:34):
actually cover their teams and come to, games here. COMPLETELY
different i wouldn't be surprised as well if, THERE'S maybe
i think some some jealousy along the, lines of, you
know some bells and whistles that this town has got
compared to. Other cities and you may folks may laugh,
at THAT but, i mean let's just. Be Real, number

(22:54):
one the priority. Is winning that will always be the number.
One thing when it CAME.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
The nhl players with where they.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Want to go, underneath that where are you going? To
work where are you going? To live where are you going?
To play how does your ownership care? About this how
do they factor into this whole calculus of building the
appropriate roster to put a? Winner out we know, For
sure ian that this ownership cares and cares beyond the
shadow of a doubt to.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Put a winner on, the ice and put a.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Substantial winner on. The ice finding out that calculation has
been a bit of, a, challenge yes but that has
been absolutely positively. No question the practice reason what we
hear IS and i saw an athletic players pull on
this is one of. The best that's not the best
in the. Entire league that's important, to consider and it

(23:46):
MAY be i think you know an unsung hero part of.
This equation but the matter of fact is when you're
a player and you're signing up where you want? To
go where are you spending your, Time practicing where are
you spending your time developing as a player in the?
Late room how are?

Speaker 5 (24:01):
You treated that all goes here into the practice rank
and WHAT the krack can have built to serve their
players is known as one of, the best if not,
the best in the. Entire league then, of course where
are you going to, you? Know play where are you're.
GONNA live, i, mean listen this, all changes, you know year.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
After year decade by, a decade.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
Based on who's in their true.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
Contention window but we've seen just How much seahawks players love,
coming here and they built a. Substantial winner it's beyond
the shadow of. A doubt it's a very attractive place
to come. And play, but ultimately at the Very, END
ofvidien i go back to this the winning component. Of
it twenty five, years ago where were the most desired
places to go play FOR an? Nhl player it Was,

(24:47):
Usually detroit it Was. Usually dallas it was Maybe even
chicago when they got Into the Canaan taves eras. As
well detroit's one of those teams that is really hurting
right now now to find, a winner and they're.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Finding players who might be on. The move and we
can get Into the leeds more.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
On, That Maybe but florida about ten, Years ago ian
was persona non grata when it came to desired destinations.
To play that all Changed When bill zito came in
and built, his winner and now they are the.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Cream of the crop.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
With where players want.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
To go vegas did not exist ten years ago with
where they.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
ARE now i go back to that player's pull again
that we talked about On the draft SHOW and i
just brought up earlier, as well and players were pulled
IN the nhl from the athletic what's the number one
place that.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Is on your no trade?

Speaker 4 (25:42):
Clause list winnipeg won it in. A landslide pretty tough
when you go, play hockey but you're doing that maybe
where it's about probably minus twenty for about nine months
out of. THE year i kind of exaggerate for the points.
Those stands but in the next seven teams before it
got to other there was not one Mention, of seattle,

(26:04):
not one not even in the honorable mention names in there.
As well so are they further along with some.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
Other?

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Teams absolutely do they have.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
Some work, To, Do yes but they got all the
matters around the edges here. Figured out now you have
to find a way to build a. Substantial winner and
guess what if they can keep going in about roughly,
five years they're going to rocket themselves all the way
up into the upper echial lawn of desired places to
play IN. The nhl it's too BAD because i mean

(26:33):
it happened With panaren it happened Here. With robertson but
we've heard elsewhere that this, is not, you know a.
Continuous thing it's not, a pattern it's not. A trend
it's a circumstantial and from what, we've heard it hasn't
really deterred the cracking to take big swings here in. This,
offseason Well.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
And jason robertson just didn't say No. To seattle he
said no to a number, of Teams Including saint louis.
And others we don't even know how many he said
No to mike ben. With us, all right let's let's
wrap it up. With this free agency Starts, on wednesday
day twook of The Rookie. Development camp but that's when
free agency. GETS underway i know what, you're SAYING and
i understand that there's a there's this team is gonna

(27:12):
be in a good situation probably down the. Road again
I'll just i'm gonna speak. For fans, fans want, They
need this team needs to. Win now That's just i'm
this is. THE reality i we gotta be we gotta
be realistic. About this this team has to win now
and whether now, is now, this year now, next year
this team has to win now AND the nba. Is
coming it's gonna be here sooner. Than later this team

(27:33):
needs to get back onto some footing that has the
fan base and the sports fans here that. Are engaged
they've got. To win now you. Mentioned it the free
agent class isn't, very good but We're hearing seattle. Is
aggressive what is realistic to expect them? To do what can, we,
say hey you need TO? Do x what?

Speaker 3 (27:52):
IS that.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
I think the trademark is the obvious Answer Here ian
and there's still a, bee hive maybe even a whole
this nest of activity that's going on right now that
could be going onto the end of. The week And
Even jason botterell told us here on these air waves
that it could be going as Well. Into JULY so
i think some of the names that we've, heard from,
you know right before the, trade deadline those might be

(28:15):
key to kind of keep an eye on. AS well
i really don't think the free agency market is where.

Speaker 5 (28:20):
They want, to go nor do they have any.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Desire here to go, as WELL because, i Mean Beyond,
boone jenner your.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Big swings in free agency Might.

Speaker 4 (28:29):
Be anthony mantho was thirty one and had a thirty,
goal season but it was a. Career Year andrews lee
who's already, Thirty Five patrick lyone who hasn't a, healthy
season million, eight years, great shot but he's a high
risk guy where if you can get him on a, low,
deal great but otherwise it's a big roll of. The
dice the trade, Market, HERE ian i think for me

(28:50):
is still very. Very Intriguing alex dubrinka's name is. OUT there,
i mean, my goodness how good would he be in?
This Lineup Careil mark shenko's name Here. For columbus his
name is out there in. Trade talks reportedly the crack
and have now entered the chat. On him but he's
going to cost a. Hefty return, but yet when you
talk about last two years point totals seventy four or,

(29:10):
sixty seven last two years, thirty one, twenty seven and
his age, as well, mid twenties six foot, three frame,
ROCKET shot i think that fits. Pretty well and he's
going to be in a, contract year but that number
could explode maybe for his, next deal but he could
be very very much in the mix to fit for

(29:31):
what they have with, cap space this, other NAMING and
i think for me isn't getting, much TRACTION but i
would love to see if they can kick the tires
on in just. My Opinion matt barzel out Of The Islanders.
TAYBRIDGE fance i know that you're listening here on. This
one he can, play center he can. Play winging their
speed for him middle of the ice seventy two points.

(29:51):
Last year that was his third most and he's still
got a lot of track to go for you know
where he's at with, his age very very easy contract
fit a nine point nine one million dollars annually year
four of a, coming up.

Speaker 5 (30:05):
So it may cost a big return.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
For Him the islanders don't want to rebuild this with,
you know picks, and prospects but for what, THEY need
i think they would certainly solve. A lot the only,
question is, you know he's got a twenty two team
no trade list. Right now would he be willing to?
MOVE it i, don't know but he's got familiarity with
this area in. His hometown He's a vancouver boy that's
obviously not too. Far away so a lot of the

(30:29):
moving parts, right now. My friend But the krack and
have said they're going to be in the game. ON
this i think if you were to ask a, betting man,
you know it's not a matter, of it but when
that big trade, maybe COMES and i wouldn't be surprised
to say maybe by the end of the week that.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
This happens, great stuff great Job, on friday leading, the
charge keeping us all, on track and we will talk. Again,
Soon mikey thank you you. Two Buddy Thanks, mike Betton
The Great mike benton joining. Us Here captain betton Of
the Crack And. Audio network will take, a break we'll.
Come back wrap up, hour one set Up the. Mariners
conversation we Get a malli on tap at one O'clock

(31:01):
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to get to with those. Guys today that's coming up
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went up to The Hawks Peak sports Bar and Grill
on saturday with. Some friends had a, great time, great meal,
good atmosphere sat in, the deck fantastic watch. SOME soccer
i watched the end Of the. MARINERS game i. Enjoy
it that did do that so big thanks. To them
got a text from, A friend i'm gonna read THIS

(31:53):
because i think it kind of sets. Up things this
is they'll set UP our Armolli wap monday, pretty well
coming up at one O'clock and i'm SURE or i
won't say who this, person Is but i'm sure he
won't mind me. Reading It says i've never seen a
manager say nothing in a postgame interview and talk as
Much As dan. Wilson does he literally, says nothing but
he says, you know, you know, you know, you know
you know fifteen times in, the interview but, gives you,

(32:14):
you know. No information it's. Just garbage the thing, WITH
now i think that's. A skill let me just Go
non mariners for. A second i think that's one of
the great skills that someone speaking, can have is saying
a lot of words and saying nothing at all, of

(32:37):
substance because you give people what they want and then
you look back, and go what did you? Actually, say.
Oh nothing the king of all kings of that Was another.
Seattle coach his Name Was. Pete carroll pete. COULD speak
i used to. Love It his friday press conferences. Were

(32:58):
beautiful you Have a friday news conference or a little
press availability at the podium After the friday, walk through,
easy practice getting ready for the Game. On sunday there's
no media availability IN the nfl On. A Saturday so
pete would finish a Practice on friday and everybody go.
Gather around stick the MIC's. In there and it would,

(33:19):
usually last on average about nine minutes, or so eight nine.
Ten MINUTES and i know this Because, on saturdays especially Road,
game saturdays when we would travel out, of town we
would put together what you call PACKAGE, and tv a
story that would run on the News on saturday Night
and sunday morning and all. Of THAT so i was
tasked with putting. That Together and i'd say to Our

(33:42):
photographer Shramik Or, walker erica whoever. It was we get to,
the airport let me look At the let's get the.
Computer open they download it so they can, edit IT and,
i say, oh good there's eight nine ten minutes. In
there i'd read it or listen.

Speaker 7 (33:55):
To it.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
THE hell i can even find A sound i can't
find a fifteen. Second SoundBite but he said a lot.
Of words pete did a great job. At that the
thing Is is pete Won A. Super Bowl pete carroll
is he's the most successful coach in our, city's, History,
right YEAH Like i schmeetz is. Right there but of the,

(34:19):
major sports he's. Number one mike McDonald's off to a
hell of, a start but he didn't have the same
tenure Longevity. As pete pete could get away. With It danny.
WILSON cannot i Think With, dan wilson it's not so
much that he has an inability to tell you what
he's thinking or what. HE'S saying i think what it

(34:41):
is is there's just nothing to say because He's not
we all work in businesses where we'd love to air
out our bosses or a company or a management. Or whatever.
You can't you can't. Do that there's things that you
have to keep in house behind. Closed Doors dan wilson

(35:02):
filled with true surum press conference would probably, be incredible
be incredibly enlightening when, HE says i mean What Would
dan wilson, Normally, say well you, Know what we were
screwed today Here in cleveland because they won't let Me
use bizardo to start an inning after he finished, an
inning even though it was. Ten innings that's a rule that.
We Have the muno's rules are. In effect they're giving

(35:25):
me a six, man ROTATION which i, don't LIKE but
i have to. Have it and so that takes a
leverage arm or another arm out of, our bullpen and
so really my hands were. TIED today i can't. Do
anything that's what he'd like. To say he can't. Say
that he cannot. Say that i'm sure now he's a
really nice guy and, he's not, you know a jerk
like a lot of. Us are so maybe he. Wouldn't

(35:47):
say but if you just said true Surum In hugh
billan's always got the, Great point like if you put
the truth serum in what, they say it's a, Great.
Point hugh if they put It In. DAN wilson i
think That's What dan wilson, would, SAY like, i listen
what do you guys want me?

Speaker 7 (35:59):
TO do i.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
SCREWED here I Had michael Rucker And, josh simpson THAT'S
who i. Had available why because of a six Man
Rotation matt brash, is hurt And the munno's we're treating
him with kid, gloves because for, whatever reason even though
it's a, leverage situation we can't. Use him we have
to wait till. The ninth he has pitched more than
one inning, at times but we don't want to do

(36:21):
that because mentally this year he's. Been fragile we've seen.
The results he's just starting to get back. ON track
i can't mess with. This, guy, so really what do
You think i'm? Gonna do, I'm screwed that's what he'd want.
To say he can't, say that so instead he gives
you a postgame. News conference it's. Word salad because he's protecting.
The organization his job is to. Do that by, the

(36:43):
way this is not a Criticism Of dan wilson by.
Any means is this a Criticism Of. Dan wilson he
has to protect, the organization he has to protect, the
clubhouse he has to protect. The players he's got to
protect the guys that are. Above, him that unfortunately, for
him comes with. The job so he, can't say, BUT
yes I Mean michael Rucker And josh simpson really so

(37:08):
now here they are not in, first place here they
are below. Five hundred here they are with Not, just texas,
But man i'm, TELLING you i think we talked about
it last week with both, you know And With. Joe
houston you could be. A problem we didn't think so
you could be. A problem at the end of, the

(37:29):
day this is a better baseball team than those two
playing in a. Bad division if you're going to have
a year like this in which you're, kicking around probably
this year is the year to. Do it but that
doesn't make this week. Any better and that's why We
have Nathan and chris standing by for A little Molly,
wat monday and they are coming.

Speaker 7 (37:47):
Up next.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
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Speaker 2 (37:56):
Hell as Watch My, FROSTBREIT corps I choose chill manners s?
Bullpen implode do? They Lose the guardian six' five lose the?
Series as well More On That mullay off. Monday Coming up.
World cup update brazil gets a goal, in extra, time
stoppage time whatever the hell. You call, it these days
because soccer, is the sport they cannot figure out how.
To keep timing they don't know how. To keep time matches,

(38:17):
are ninety minutes and there are one hundred, and five
minutes and there one hundred. And, twelve minutes. Anyway they
Win we GOT mexico. Equit us tomorrow we got other.
Games coming up i'll keep. An eye On i've got
fox up here. STANDBY, for that us, by The way
plays wednesday in the knockout stage round. Of thirty. Two
they'll win then they'll be Back here next monday. Week

(38:38):
From Today golden state warriors Maybe Go After Lebron james
draymond green declined his twenty seven point six million dollar player,
option this Morning given the warriors more. Flexibility As well
malik beasley apparently. LUNCHED the game nba has got. A
gambling problem who hasn't GAMBLED?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
On?

Speaker 2 (38:54):
THE nba apparently i guess coaches now another. Player good
times sad NEWS, in the Nfl Running back chris johnson.
Diagnosed with als horrible. News for him one of the
appointment he. WAS on special i want to see he
ran for l like close to three bills. HERE one
day I, THINK with tennessee i.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Murdered that. Game.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
He's crazy, game all. Right Let's.

Speaker 7 (39:13):
Go it's monday then that.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
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Speaker 2 (39:42):
AND gentlemen as i look here at the Standings Of,
the american league Standing's, Here Majorleagu baseball American, League on monday,
june twenty ninth for the first, TIME and sometime i
do not see an al Leader. That says seattle Mary's Insteadis,
to texas RANGERS who, are i mean tearing it? Up
right now they've won four, in a row but they're
all they're five, hundre five hundred get you number One.
In the west marriage aren't. Five hundred anymore they're forty

(40:03):
two and forty three if the, season ended today may
be the third playoff Team In. The american league that's
how that's how special this is right now in terms
of how quickly changed Now. We're in june Haven't got.
To july yet we. All get that but if ever
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Speaker 7 (40:37):
On the.

Speaker 2 (40:37):
Air it's today this is this isn't Quite Code red
kevin mather our, first ever episode but. It's damn close
it's damn close? With what happened? What's going on? Are
we piggybacking? Are we not can we use bizartro for
more than ten? Pitches or, not et. Cetera et cetera

(41:00):
the end result a Bad week for seattle and they,
come home tonight, by the way Taking. On the angels
we'll get to that at the end, of the segments
but let's Start As always Chris Craft for nathan, Bishop
are here nathan. With, the spectacles chris is that a new?
LOOK for him i don't remember, the glasses before do?

Speaker 3 (41:15):
You remember those i've, seen the glasses the. HAIRCUTS pretty
fresh i think that's?

Speaker 7 (41:19):
What is that?

Speaker 3 (41:20):
What it hit what's throwing us off. A little bit
we're used to, sixty great handsome and we're getting, seventy
right now and it's just throwing us.

Speaker 2 (41:26):
Off of, it it. Is it is that's a. Good
look though you must have had. A meeting today the
blushing is really going to add. To, that, look, yeah
thanks guys must must have, had a, Meeting all right nathan, Fire,
away in.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Well let me fire it.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Back at YOU it's it's i was trying to THINK
about how i was. Gonna do this. It's your show
who do you want me to? Yell at first because
there's plenty of. Targets you. Picked, either's CHOICE god let's
i think you start. At the top i'm gonna started.
The game yesterday we just started at. The, ground level
yeah let's.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
Just do that.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Let's, do, That okay.

Speaker 6 (41:55):
Fine so the, GUARDIANS excuse me i almost called them by.
The wrong name if anybody watched, the game yesterday, First of. All,
i'm Sorry secondly the guardians played one of the worst
front to back BASEBALL games that i Can Recall a
major league. BASEBALL team playing i lost count of the, number, of, bobbles,
trips falls, overthrows mishandled, transfers et. Cetera et cetera they

(42:19):
played an atrocious, game of baseball and through the, power
Of That the seattle mariors managed to score more than
three runs for the first time. In two weeks. Kudos
To them the marions are averaging three point four to
six runs Per, game, in june which believe, it or
not is a full third of a run more than
the twenty ten team average for. An entire year if
you're wondering the WAY that why i am THE way.

(42:40):
That i am but let's start. In that Game so
the marions were up. Four to One They pulled emerson
hancock with one out to go in the sixth To Go,
to edward bizardo who's a fairly, HIGH leverage batter, i excuse.
Me a pitcher he pitched for two batters and ten
pitches and then Was Pulled for gabe spire and THAT all,
aid i, believe seven innings And then The Mariners, hip

(43:02):
andres munos who is one of the best closers. In
the game, the problem is there's a number between, seven
AND nine and i Don't Know if dan. Wilson knows that,
he may not but apparently nobody thought about what was
going to happen with. The eighth inning because No Offense
to Michael Rucker, and josh simpson who totally find that
they're they're here time lestop.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
Here right there those are names that normally we would
get to in a segment because we're They're like In.
Everett or Arkansas we'd ask chris about them and. Get,
the expertise no but these are, major, League, pitchers correct.

Speaker 6 (43:37):
Yeah they are they're the guys that when you make
a baseball game that DOESN'T have, m wilbpa licensing they're
the names that. Pop in, there so yeah no offense,
to those guys but those were the guys that ended
up pitching the most high leverage pitches in the. Entire
baseball game they blew a four, to one lead gave,
up five. Runs And lost dan wilson we asked about
it after the game, and he said we just kind

(43:58):
of didn't get the job done there in. The eight thinning,
that's a paraphrase but that is almost. Exactly the quote
i'm not sure what to, do ABOUT this BECAUSE i will. I,
will acknowledge sorry let me have this one very quickly.
At this time as, Of Right now dan wilson has
a career managerial record of one hundred and fifty three
and one hundred.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And.

Speaker 6 (44:18):
Twenty EIGHT ian if i give you one choice at
what the winning percentage, of that is what do you think?

Speaker 2 (44:21):
It would be, oh, my, god no.

Speaker 6 (44:25):
Yep That's right dan wilson has a fifty four percent
career Winning percentage. As MARY'S manager so i don't know
what to.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Do.

Speaker 6 (44:31):
About it guys it's basically the game seven of the
two thousand and of the TWENTY twenty five bils he
has done. All over again he apparently hasn't. LEARNED from
it i don't think there's any reason to think he's
going to. Learn from it, he's pretty clearly, in my
opinion not qualified to be a major league. MANAGER full
stop i don't know why, We're doing this so. It's
really frustrating it's really frustrating that easily the most talented

(44:53):
team in this division is not. In first place they're not.
At five hundred they're playing well below their talent level
and basically every capacity except, for starting pitching which they
can't even figure out.

Speaker 7 (45:03):
How to use all.

Speaker 6 (45:03):
Of those guys they have so much starting pitching that
they've actually managed to take having six great starting pitchers
and turn it into a problem for them that they.
Can't figure out it's a negative for them that they
have too many. Starting PITCHERS somehow so, i, don't know
man there's wheels upon wheels of dysfunction with this. Organization
right now chris needs to make sense OF it before
i start putting my fist through my fricking, microphone Right

(45:26):
now because i'm gonna Get.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
Really upset chris. That's that's easy he makes sense. Of,
this right oh, By The, WAY vijl vigo i don't.
Know this name this is the you. Stumped me today
he was.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
The ninth pick of. THIS year's draft, i, had like oh,
you know what the can?

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Now REALLY dumb but i was probably busy, When that, happened,
so okay.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
Good You know it's it's not like you hosted a
draft show.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
OVER the week i was AN analyst or i was
just a. Guest ON it So i. Was mikey.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
Bets That's fair how vigo borc one of The most
stereotypical SCANDINAVIAN names that i have. Heard quite time all make.
Sense of it they stink they're a bad baseball, team right,
now and again if you take away that eight, game
winning streak which, you cannot. Do it's there. It is

(46:12):
there it's just like if you took away the fourteen
game winning streak in, twenty twenty two they don't. Make,
the postseason well that fourteen game winning, streak is there
and they did. MAKE the postseason i don't really have
anything to Add to. WHAT nathan said i think he
summed it. Up, very nicely well, kind of meanly but
he summed it up very. Well and accurately i'm tired

(46:33):
of people telling me how to feel about. This baseball
team i'm tired of people, telling, me that oh look
what the record. Was last year look what they. Did,
last year well number one last year wasn't good, enough
for me. And number two look what they did for,
THE other oh, i don't know forty six, Or, so
seasons like look what they have done for the majority of.
THEIR career career i guess career. Kind of works look

(46:54):
at what has happened for this fan base for the
majority of the time being a fan have not, been
good Enough and the mariners are not good. Enough right
now there is no proof whatsoever outside of hope and
maybe some chart simulators that tell Me That the seattle
mariners are good enough to Go To the world series

(47:15):
and that anything but that is not good. Enough for
me anything but that is not good. Enough For me
and i'm tired of people telling me. How to feel
i'm tired of people telling me just look. At last
year i'm tired of people telling me to LOOK. At
The wrc plus i'm tired of people telling me to
look at what's going to. BE coming back. I DON'T
care all i know Is Watching the seattle mariners right now.

(47:36):
Sucks out loud it's an unfun experience and that should not.
Be the case there are so many fun players on
this team and they are just. A joy suck it
just sucks all of the joy. Out Of you and
i'm tired of people telling me that it's going, to
be okay because right now. It's not OKAY and.

Speaker 6 (47:56):
Can i add SOMETHING to because i Agree with what chris.
IS saying there i was thinking, about this too about
the way that people talk about how you have to
wait for the full season and all, this other stuff,
You KNOW what like i get that the way we
engage with sports and the way that we intake modern
athletics is, very championship focused and it's, very postseason, focused

(48:18):
but baseball more than, ANY other sport i think the
journey really is at least as much the point. As
the destination at the end, of the season there are
one hundred and sixty two baseball games to watch and
try to enjoy and whether this team catches fire for two,
to three weeks which has been their saving grace on
the few seasons that they've had some, success this decade

(48:39):
they have caught fire for basically two weeks have been
more or less a five hundred team the rest, of
their existence which, by the way includes the twenty twenty
five postseason where they were. Six and six it's not
fun to watch this day after day after. Day AFTER
day and i don't really care if they end up
getting hot enough to win like. Eighty FIVE games and

(49:00):
i don't really care if eighty five wins is enough
to win this crappy division or if it's just enough
to get them the second or, third wild card and
then we can talk. About the postseason. That'll be fun
it'll be fun to experience postseason. A baseball, game god
knows we're all they can make the postseason for the next,
ten straight years and we still would not be at
equal balance from where we deserve to be as. A fan,
base but man, in the meantime do you KNOW how

(49:22):
desperate i am just to see a freaking great baseball
team take the field day in. And day out we
watch this team for hundreds of hours, every single year
and they're so, crappy right now And they're so they've
been so crappy almost. The entire season and they're not
a group, Of crappy players so why are? They so
crappy somebody please. Figure it out it's unbelievably. Frustrating, TO

(49:46):
watch well.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
I think what you guys both, said There, TOO and
chris i love what you said, about you know people
telling us. How to feel, it's you know we use
joke about, all the time baseball guys saying you KNOW
and you i, cansue you Guys, Baseball guys joe josh
and baseball Guy you know. Sarah's baseball guy but all
the you two and THOSE two guys i. Mentioned in,
others you know what's fun if you're really a baseball

(50:08):
guy is watching baseball every night and watching your, team
every night and you want to watch your team play
well and you know that they're not going to go
one hundred and sixty, two and oh that's not. Going
to happen we. ALL understand that i think there's this
weird dynamic in this sport more than any other where
people want to tell you. How to fan this. Sport
does that this sport has that more than. Any sport

(50:28):
imaginable and you're not allowed to get upset after a,
game like, yesterday or frankly not. Just the game this theory,
is the weekend the week. As a whole remember when
we do this, show quick reminder we react to basically the.
Week THAT was but i think what we're, doing right
now rightfully so is reacting to the year that has.
Been so far the journey is what's fun. LIKE for,
me i love, FIRST of All I love west coast.

(50:51):
Or home STANDS when it's i got that game, ON
at night i can settle in the night's over, and
you know maybe we're still grinding Through May or maple,
valleys or whatever But at least i've. GOT that on.
I enjoy, IT you know i just. CAN sit back
i want to. WATCH my team i also want to
watch my team and be excited and feel good and
knowing that they're going.

Speaker 7 (51:10):
To lose.

Speaker 2 (51:10):
Games that's fine how they're losing it is what, The
frustration is where the frustration level is for. People right
now let me start, With the manager, chris with you
because that's that's this. Is a topic we've gone down,
this road before but this if there is one overriding
sports topic in this town right Now today on, june

(51:30):
twenty ninth, twenty Twenty Six, it's. Dan wilson period like that's.
The story today like if you're writing headlines and you're
doing it, the right, way the story what's The Biggest,
Story World? Cup, great ball No It. Is dan wilson
so Let me start, chris With him and i'll throw
this at you and you tell me HOW far. Off
I Am is dan wilson? Really to Blame Or is

(51:56):
dan wilson to conduit to? What's above him, in other
words how Is It for dan wilson to manage a
baseball game on a on a level that is, needed at,
this you know a. Major league level when you have
six starters, in your rotation you're down. A bullpen arm
you're now down, a second one a Leverage Arm, in
matt brash and you have all these little rules In

(52:18):
place where bizarto can't start the next inning after throwing,
Just ten pitches and so then You go to spire
and now all of a sudden you have That eighth,
inning nathan mentioned and the, eighth inning is, wait for
it probably. A leverage inning munios is sort, of warming
up but not really warming up because we're gonna save
him For the ninth how hard Is? It For dan
does dan get? Any Relief here does dan get? Any

(52:41):
any leeway or how much of This Is on dan wilson?
In your Mind and then nathan you Jump in after.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
So he's not the whole pie like he the whole
pie for the mariners s Show Is. Not dan wilson
but he's a good. Chunk OF it and i will,
tell you this he is if that pie has. Turns
in it he's not the one who's adding extra. Flavor
to it he's not. Making Him better dan wilson is
Not Making the. Seattle mariners better and that ULTIMATELY is

(53:10):
what i. Come down TO it's, why, i thought like
was everything that happened in Twenty Twenty four? Scott service's,
fault hell no not. Even freaking close but it was
time to make A change because scott's service Wasn't Making the.
Seattle Mariners better dan wilson cannot Be Making the. Seattle
Mariners Better if dan wilson Is Making the, seattle mariners
better we have grossly understated how bad this roster is

(53:35):
because there's just no, chance in hell there's no chance
In Hell that dan wilson is giving them an extra
boost now what he does, in the clubhouse and we've
talked about. This ad nauseum we can't really judge because.
We're not there we are not. In the clubhouse we
don't know what he's doing, for PLAYER morale but i
will just point out player morale clearly can't. Mean that

(53:57):
much you're a below abbage baseball team when you had
aspirations to be something much much. More than that and
we are past the halfway point. Of the year we
are like we would be talking About if the seahawks
were four and, five right now we would be talking
Not about, firing mike McDonald but we would be talking about.
What went wrong we would be talking about why this.

(54:20):
Didn't work out it's time to start wondering why this.
Isn't Working Out and dan wilson is not. MAKING them
better i will just tell, you THIS much and i don't.
Like Saying This if christopher crawford was in Charge Of,
the seattle mariners he would make a managerial change and
he wouldn't think, twice ABOUT it because i Don't Think
that dan wilson is good enough at his job right

(54:42):
now To get the mariners where they. Need TO go
and i know that managers are also kind. Of fungible
things we've seen managerial changes in the middle of seasons
all the time that lead to. Success for teams we've
seen it go the other. Way, As Well yeah dan
wilson is not the the only Reason Why the seattle,
mariners are struggling but he's certainly not a reason why

(55:05):
they're better either or, MAKING them better. I should say.

Speaker 6 (55:09):
I think that there's an Element too that one of
THE things that i see discussed a, lot is this
how do we determine how much of This is on
dan implement implementing a play sheet that's given to? Him
from above is he just a puppet for? The front
office is he just running the plays at? The Front
office and i'll admit that from my perspective from THE perspective.
THAT i have i can't delineate exactly where those, two

(55:30):
things GO but what i do know is that there's
not like there's a phone Or like a dan phone
in the clubhouse where the front office is calling in
during the game and telling him what to do as the.
Game goes on what we have here is, the difference
between if you'll suffer the analogy, for a second we
have the front office doing the battle plan before, the
battle Happens And then dan wilson is the general and

(55:51):
when action, starts to happen and when things start to happen,
on the field he's in charge, of the tacticians the tactics.
In real time so there is absolutely no way that
the WAY this front i have my issues with. His
front office there is no way this front office drew
up a game plan Yesterday That involved Michael Rutger and
josh simpson playing pitching in. The eighth inning that happened

(56:12):
because of how the manager reacted in real time to
the things that happened. On the field he is a,
very Bad tactician. AND i'm sorry i know that he's a,
really NICE man and i bear. Him no ill will
we have seen it over and over and over. And
Over again if i'm Wrong and the Mariners Did design
Michael Rutcker and josh simpson to pitch, the eighth yesterday

(56:34):
we have way Bigger Issues. Than dan wilson there's something
going on at the higher level that is a bigger
concern than What's. Happening WITH dan but i don't think that's.
What's going on you are seeing a man who struggles
to adapt to changes. In real time the game moves
too quickly for him due to a lack of experience
and possibly a. Lack of acumen and for the organization

(56:54):
that's in the place that it, is right now there
should be world series. Or bust Expectation it's like chris
has that should be what's going on inside that. Organization
right now you can't have this guy. Doing, this stuff
man you. Can't do, it i'm sorry, it can't.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Happen all right chris kind of answered, My Next question
but i'll Toss it To nate and i'll spin it
a little different. WAY as well i don't know if
you guys know this is the. FIFTIETH anniversary season i
don't know if You know what dan's history is with
the baseball team as opposed to just. Being a manager
i'll spin it a. LITTLE different way i do want
to kind of go back into just the, roster makeup
though now that is. Part of me you guys? Watch

(57:29):
twenty four did you ever watch Twenty four With? Keith
for sutherland remember how he always had He's. Talking to
chloe he always had that little earbud like we CALL,
it in tv like an ifb, but, It's wireless right
you couldn't see that he had it? In his ear
are you sure there isn't a twenty four Little? Earbud
in dan?

Speaker 4 (57:46):
Are?

Speaker 2 (57:46):
YOU sure hey i think you need To Go to josh.
SIMPSON right Now i think. Simpson's the, guy.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
If so that's.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
A big issue chloe's. At the, computer, no, no, no,
no no? No what what what just?

Speaker 7 (58:01):
Got?

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Spit out chloy what just?

Speaker 7 (58:02):
Got?

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Spit out michael Let's Go.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
TO michael rucker i, think, you can, absolutely you know
if you want to have a separate Discussion over what
dan has been handed as far as a roster and
the weaknesses of what's, GOING on there i think that's a,
whole OTHER discussion and i think there's plenty of room
for criticism as to how this, roster was constructed especially
on the, fringes of it but as far as just
the day to day management of what's Happened with. The

(58:29):
bullpens specifically, GOOD god man.

Speaker 2 (58:32):
I don't know if you. Guys know this there's anger.
IN the air i feel on the text line You
guys Hear? Chris does mile? Why you know you guys
are on the blue sky like there is anger. In
the air so we'll continue. THE discussion next i do
want to get into a couple of the numbers from the,
weekend as well the home run dependent team, that this
guy this team. Has turned into they don't hit, a
home run. They don't win it's. Really that simple sometimes

(58:53):
when they do hit a horme and they. Still don't
win but they don't hit, a home run. They don't
win we'll get to that coming up next nine three POINT.
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All right, chris CHRIS said and i want to put.
WORDS your mouth i just want, To. Confront this chris
if you, we're in charge you would make. A, MANAGERIAL.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Change, yeah I mean and i think it's. WORTH pointing
out i wouldn't have made the hire in, the first,
place but, YEAH right now i would absolutely make. The
managerial change it's it's Nothing Personal. With, dan wilson OBVIOUSLY
it's just i think that they need a different leader
at the, Top. Right now nate.

Speaker 6 (01:00:20):
It's hard for me to not. Agree with, THAT and
again I Really like dan wilson. AS a person i
respect the fact that he's beloved within the organization because
he more, than his play he's just treats people. The
RIGHT way and i think it's important, To, acknowledge that
like this is a guy that got where he is
because he's, a GOOD person and. I value that i respect.
It a lot but he's not fit. For this job

(01:00:42):
they need to. Find somebody better they.

Speaker 7 (01:00:44):
Just real.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Quick, real quick also the last time we asked, for
A change the mariners had a fourteen game winning streak
when we had, The, last time yeah we should have.
A change thing Hey maybe that if, that's what Happens
then just i'll let everyone know what my venmo is
because clearly we have some.

Speaker 2 (01:01:00):
Sort, OF magic, well i mean. It is true we've
done this for a, while this show and this is
not something we've. Discussed, A, lot ever no and this
is the second time in about a month and a
half we've done so there's a, Reason. For that chris
There's also reality THERE'S two realities i think in Play.
Here with, dan one, Is You know jerry depotos. Is

(01:01:22):
coming here he's. Hired two managers they both had no,
experience as managers, as managers period not just, big league.
Managers just Managers and now dan DID manage a. JV
softball team i, did see that my daughter, Played against
him but as Far As, major league baseball he has.
Never done that and service his first. JOB was here

(01:01:43):
i do think that. That's NOT unrelated like i think
there's a. Reason for, that you know we just talked
about the twenty four little earbud, in your, ear you
know like, and dictating things, and you know different guys
would probably would not want, that. Particular job right so
the other reality is it's the, Fiftieth. Anniversary season chris
do you think THERE'S any chance i do make a
managerial Move With a Mariner hall of famer in the? Fiftieth?

Speaker 8 (01:02:05):
Anniversary, YEAR no no i think things would have to,
get really bad and boy do they have A chance
to and just to get this out, Of the way
i'm not rooting, for this whatsoever but you lose a
Series to the angels if you lose this stuffcoming Serious
to the angels and like lose three, out of four
maybe then you start talking, about some stuff particularly if,

(01:02:26):
things look bad if there's.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Some DECISION making but i just Can't see the. Mariners
doing it and THE only reason i disagree with you
there ian about him. HIRING two guys I Don't think Jerry.
DEPOTTO hired danils i think that decision was made. By
somebody else, and you know there's NO evidence that i have.
Other THAN intuition and i don't.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
DISAGREE with that i don't. DISAGREE with that i don't
disagree with. That At all That's Chris. Crawfor nathan, Bishop,
all right chris, stay with You and then. Nathan jump
in and this was brought up on our. Show, last
week chris it might, have even been although when we
had you on Post, game on thursday that. Was a
game did they win that game The. Salvage, of sions no.
They did, Not that's Right sitzer and edgar. The hitting

(01:03:14):
coaches and This Is from daniel kramer in his. Story
this morning over The Weekend, at Progressive field the mariners
hit an average of, two fifty two which is twenty
points above. Their season average they're on base percentage was
also forty points up over. Their season average but. Here's
the key it, was all singles singles and. Walks all

(01:03:35):
weekend this team had one hundred and twenty, three played
appearances had just five extra base hits in those three
Games Against. The cleveland guardians they are now six and
twenty two when they don't homer. In a GAME if,
they i mean they have forty one WINS right, last
i checked so only five. Times this season right that

(01:03:57):
they are six times this season that they have won
again without thirty five wins with, a home run six
without like that's they are really relying on the on.
The long ball Sites. Are and edgar people have been asking, This,
A lot chris i'll. Let you start are they? CULPABLE
at all.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
I think so i don't. Know how much this is
the one of the hardest. Things to prove, and you.
Know it's INTERESTING nathan and i were talking al fair
about how we were with you Ats In the qualm
casino when they made the Change To, fire brent brown
and that was at The. End of may that's The end,
of june now, And you know I'm sure the mariners
are LOOKING more, at wrc PLUS in which i just

(01:04:37):
crapped on and, all that stuff but, it does matter
and some other stats that suggest that their offense hasn't
been as. BAD per se i think that they probably
view this as results, losing to process but ultimately results have,
to matter here and we see heading coaches escapegoats get changed. All,
the time, now fiftieth anniversary you getting rid of The

(01:05:00):
who thinks i'm A Cool. GRANDSON edgar martinez i. Really
DOUBT that but I Do think, kevin seisser's job whether
it should, be or not could be on the line
here because we see teams make these types of changes
all the time that sometimes you just feel like maybe
a new voice is necessary. For THESE guys and i
don't know how much blame actually goes. TO those guys

(01:05:21):
i don't know how much credit they deserved for. LAST
year either I Certainly. LIKE kevin seitzer i heard nothing
but good things about His. Time in atlanta but sometimes
you just need. A different voice i sometimes you just, Need.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
SOMEBODY else nathan i think you KNOW as As i
hear chris talk more and, more about that and then
you know the Thoughts on on, Dan, this YEAR nathan
what i this is a team that for a while
has done that, a lot right didn't feel like forever
they were just changing hitting coaches, like every, day like
it and like that's an easy that's an easy. Change

(01:05:53):
to make, in a sense if you have Somebody, not
named edgar if you IF you Make i guess, nathan
would say this? Is is it kevin sites are more
likely to be The Scapegoat. Than, dan, wilson oh.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
Absolutely because because of the nature of the position and
because of the things. THAT you've cited i don't think
that there's any realistic SCENARIO here where i read a
press Release It says dan wilson has been fired from
the job of Manager Of. THE seattle mariners i could
see a scenario if he, gets very bad where we
get some kind Of announcement that dan has decided to
step away and they've mutually decided. To part ways remember

(01:06:26):
that our first you already, alluded to it our very
big first show that, We Ever had kevin mather was
allowed to resign after saying the stuff. That he did
that the organization did. Not fire him so they don't fire.
Their own people there is a loyalty within that organization that.
Cuts both ways it's a blessing, and a curse but
there's no way. THEY'RE doing that i do think it's
important to, kind of observe if we were to make

(01:06:46):
a change, at hitting coach what these, results actually are
because that. Is what matters this team has scored three
or fewer runs in forty five of its, eighty FIVE
games and i would give you one guess about what
the percentage, of that is but unfortunately it's. Fifty three
percent but still scoring three or fewer runs in more
than half of your games with this collection of positional.

(01:07:07):
Talent is atrocious they are nine and thirty four in
games that they allow four, or more runs which is
just putting an immense amount of pressure on. This run
prevention and the pitchers have the starting pitchers have done
their job. With this organization they have been significantly better
than they, were last year and they're doing so with
a worse. Defense behind them so this really does, come

(01:07:31):
down to, in my view this offense figuring out a.
Way to score but, to your point yan they are
so slow and they're. Not average hitters they're, all just
boppers like that's how they're going. To score runs so
if the ball's not going, over the fence you are
going to have. These long chasms they just tied the
twenty ten millions for most consecutive games not scoring more.

(01:07:51):
Than three runs that's because home, runs are fickle and
when your catcher's not hitting, sixty of them it's really
hard to win when you're only. Hitting home runs so
they got to get something figured out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
On that side where would this Team be Without randy or?
Rosereina right? NOW holy cow i mean we saw for a, Couple.
Of weeks chris before we wrap. Up this segment there's
also part of me that believes at some point we've
spent a, lot of time, and rightfully so we spend
a lot of time talking about management and. The manager
himself at some point the players have, to play better
like you, just got, to you know like we have
A we play I play every wednesday in. A golf

(01:08:23):
league It drew its glenn and you know when guys,
are you know me included? Or going afterwards you have a,
post you know round beverage and? WHAT'D You shoot i
we have a saying that we always look, at somebody go,
you know what, just play, better you. Know play better.
That solves. It play better. That's on you so let's
talk about Playing better and i'll just go. To one
guy do we have what? Is the level it's fire fire?

(01:08:44):
Force fire season, are, we, green yellow? Orange or red
since coming back off, the Injury list cal rawley's had.
Fifty played appearances he's hitting one seventy nine three six
zero on base percentage because he's walked. A few times
his slugging percentage is to his ops is. Six forty
two he has, had a double and he's had a

(01:09:04):
home run and three rbiy's and. Fifty played appearances how are?
We concerned yet or is he just gonna hit a
switch here and get going, At, Some point chris because,
just be honest they Have to have he didn't need,
to hit sixty but they.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
Better, have him yeah they need him to be at
least that, thirty homer guy like the guy that they
got in twenty TWENTY four and i believe pretty close
to it in. Twenty, twenty three yeah they. NEED that
version i will say this that like the, approach still,
good looks good and those. Walks do matter like a
three sixty on base percentage. Will certainly play but a,
TWO eighty two i, think you, Said, was yeah yeah

(01:09:38):
that's that's not, gonna. Do it man. They need him and,
the Thing is the mariners felt like the Bringing Back
of josh naylor and The Addition of brendan donovan made
it feel like you don't need That Version of big
dumper in order.

Speaker 9 (01:09:52):
To.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
Carry, you No No because josh naylor is a well
below average baseball, player Right Now, AND brendan donovan i
THINK is into i don't know what's really, going ON
there but i don't think that. He is currently He's
At the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Germany paraguay. MATCH he's there i.

Speaker 3 (01:10:08):
Don't blame him For going to that's, a great. Time,
good game yeah it's problematic Because unless the mariners kick
That Version of big dumper that we, GOT last year
i don't know if this offense could. Be good Enough
they need julio To be the july version on that
they have gotten the. Last few years he Was, wretched in,

(01:10:28):
june just wretched especially against. Right HANDED pitching but i
put my Concern Level for big dumper at like five
for the actual player and six and A half BECAUSE
i think i need the version of twenty twenty five
for this team to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Reach, Its, GOALS yeah NATHAN i think i.

Speaker 6 (01:10:47):
AGREE with that i want to BE careful because i
understand why We Focus on. Big dumper here he is
having the worst season of this group that, We're talking
about but we really need like this kind this blame
can be spread. Around pretty well We Already. Mentioned josh
naylor he's, Been one, of i'm sorry one of the
worst first basemen in, baseball this year just by the

(01:11:07):
straight we've ALREADY talked about wrc plus and that. Kind
of stuff, BY those metrics i think he's twenty seventh
out of thirty first. Baseman, This year julio. GOD love him.
I love him we've spent so much time defending him.
On this show not having a great. Year thus far
it's just. Not good enough the defense hasn't. Been Good
enough the june offense. WAS really frustrating jp has been
a disaster. In the field his offense has not been

(01:11:29):
good enough. To overcome that there are a lot of
guys on this roster who need to, pick it up
and it's Unfair to like chris just ended his conversation
by Saying they need dumper to be Twenty. Twenty five
dumper that, may be true it's also extremely. Unfair to
him he shouldn't have to be that for this team.
To be great it's no player can be that good.

(01:11:52):
Every single year that is. An unrealistic expectation and if
the roster was designed where it needed him. To be
that now we're talking about the people up top who
have brewed up and done a bad job, at their
job which was designing a full. And, COMPLETE roster.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
Okay i can you? DO one more i GOT one
thing i want to get TO you because i just
went AFTER cal AND i think i think We need
to this is the this for for just, for the
record this is The we love julio. Show of Record
we we. We've always this there are others in this
market that have. Have past president probably the future we'll
want To Blank. On julio rodriguez we, don't do that

(01:12:26):
but we have to ask Some Questions. About june julio
can we do that when, we come back look. At
the pitching on, A bright Note i'll have chris Updates
on who there's got to be a Better option Than.
Simpson and, rucker if only if only they if only
they had an arm or two. In the minors we'll
talk About, that Next.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
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Speaker 2 (01:13:11):
For john morant apparently whoa what in The Name? Is
sebastian telfair? And gun possession? Are they thinking apparently they
missed having a guy bringing firearms onto The Plane since
sea vass has been gone. For, A while yeah i'm
just gonna tell. You right Now you think marener? Fans are,
upset oh boy they ain't going well Down In. The,
Row city Okay i'm gonna i'm gonna ask two several

(01:13:32):
questions and we'll do them just separately because we're just
gonna run. Out Of time So, I'll start nathan i'll,
go with this this, is for You, AND then chris
i got a different. One For. You juil rodriguez nathan
in The month of june.

Speaker 7 (01:13:42):
Very.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Cow like numbers he does have two home runs, and
ten RBIs but he struck out. Twenty three times he's
hitting two twenty six his on basis. Three h five
his slugging is three to twelve in The. Month of
june they need more. OUT of, him i, mean like again, We,
can say dan we can say all these. Things You
want If cal and huie, are not producing the reality

(01:14:04):
is this is not a very. Good, baseball team.

Speaker 7 (01:14:06):
Yeah that's one.

Speaker 6 (01:14:07):
HUNDRED percent accurate. I wish, THAT i mean i Want
few things mariner has RELATED more than i Want To
see julio rodriguez be the best version of himself for
a full one hundred and sixty, two GAME schedule because
i think that Player Is THE american league mvp and
one of the very best. Baseball players alive but we're
in the Fifth, YEAR with, julio i think and it
may just be time to accept that this guy is

(01:14:29):
going to be a slow first. Half BASEBALL player and
i thought it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Changed because he Was.

Speaker 6 (01:14:33):
TERRIFIC in may i think he had ten Home runs
in may and it looked like he was really taking
off in the first half for. The first, time but
no and it's just, To, your point Ian especially, with
dumper regressing this was a chance for him to kind
of seize that primary positional role that it looks like
he was going to have said to after his, great
rookie season and it. Just HASN'T happened and i still

(01:14:56):
say my stance is still that, at his worst which
is he's kind of close to two out his, Worst
Right now julia rodriguez is a very. Good baseball player
the value that he provides in. The center field he
hasn't been quite as good defensive to me this year
as he. Has previous years it's still amazing to have
a player like that be able to play center. Field
for you but. You're absolutely correct he probably doesn't deserve
To Be an all star this year for the second

(01:15:17):
straight year. In a row and it's just because he
cannot get out of his own way Until it. HITS
july first i don't know why, that's the case and
it's really hurting the.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
Team this year just Weird, because his may like you
mentioned on his on base slugging And ops In april
in march was, three twenty nine, three forty nine six
seventy eight three h, five three. Twelve six seventeen, in
this month in The, month of may. He Was great,
LIKE nathan, said i mean his on base was so
so at, three o nine but five to ninety slugging eight.

(01:15:46):
Ninety nine ops and then it's just like two out
of the three months. He's been bad he's, GOT two
days i guess to. Turn it around but he's gonna
end up with not only four or five home runs
combined in, those two months first two months of the
season or first two of the first three months. Of, The,
season okay ris, six man rotation. No leverage arms walk
me through the bullpen and the problems they're, having right

(01:16:07):
now and how much is that related to the. Six,
Man rotation.

Speaker 3 (01:16:12):
Oh chris.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Might have frozen we Might. Have lost chris, Look, at
that Nathan he's what. We've lost him he's lost. Him
in pensiveness it was too good. Of a Question it
was i'll let you jump in Until we. Get chris
back If we get chris back here, in a second
he's going to come. BACK right NOW i think i
see him.

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
As we.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
Speak we'll, see but yeah that has to, be an, Issue, Doesn't,
it nathan nathan.

Speaker 6 (01:16:31):
The, Six man, Rotation, i'm sorry yeah that. Was, the, question,
YEAH yes yeah i think the six man rotation thing
and the way that the organization has gone about this
has been really frustrating AND primarily because i think we
heard a couple, Of weeks AGO chris and i were
talking off air about this idea that they were going
to go to a six man rotation because it was a,
uni excuse, me the piggyback because it was a unanimous
decision that there was this piggyback idea that they were.

(01:16:53):
Going to do there was going to be a staggered
piggyback where like every picture was going to have a
turn beam piggybacks and piggyback piggybacking on top. Of, another
one well if, that's the case then then why? Are
we waffling why are we finding out THE day of
i Think it Was Saturday when logan gilbert was supposed
to have. A, piggyback start yes that. That's not happening
so if this is such a unanimously, agreed upon idea

(01:17:15):
it's fine that they're trying to. DO something different i
know some people hate the piggyback just, as a concept
and the idea of. CHANGE is scary i don't hate
it as a, concept that much but the way this
is being implemented and the lack of consistency with the
messaging and the implementation of it has got to be
driving these pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
Up, A wall chris i think we get you back.
Just real quick how much is the piggyback and the
six man rotation hurting what you have in the in
the bullpen in addition to not having brash some.

Speaker 3 (01:17:43):
Like, SOME for sure i just think it's a communication
thing more. Than anything else and this is one of
THE reasons why i would make the. Managerial trade, change
excuse ME is that I Don't trust. DAN wilson improvise
I Don't trust dan wilson to be. Able to audible
he has to, have that ability but he hasn't shown
me that ability. To DO so and i, also think,

(01:18:04):
THAT you know i think, the whole uh the manager isn't.
Making the decisions. Things get overstated this is A case
where i don't think the manager's. Truly MAKING decisions where
i do think it is front office saying these guys
need to pitch, on these days these guys need to
have this. Amount OF innings but i just need a
manager who can improvise a, little Bit More and dan

(01:18:24):
wilson is.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Not that guy can you Tell us?

Speaker 7 (01:18:28):
About?

Speaker 4 (01:18:28):
Mile?

Speaker 3 (01:18:28):
Why, PLEASE sure well i recap every SINGLE game sometimes
i swear A lot and i, apologize about, that and
uh maybe they'll PLAY better and i won't have. To do,
that but yeah maya y on YouTube please check it
out and real quick thanks everybody who sent the Nice
messages AFTER thursday when i came on with you about
the salary cap stuff and all.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Of, that stuff man, a great segment, really good segment
Really good, Segmentro, All, right nathan chris what's hold?

Speaker 7 (01:18:52):
For better?

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Days Next week the angels. Are in town things are going,
to turn. Around aren't they they'll turn Around with the.

Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Wednesday off day when's the Last time the mariner Has
had a wednesday off day in the middle.

Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Of, a, SERIES ye well i guess my ass would
be one's Last Time the world, cup. Was here sir
that would be, NEW it's here. I feel yeah wasn't
it just here last Year That A? World world cup
than Perfect no Score. Germany at paraguay, by the way
in the, twenty six, minute, all, right guys. Thanks great
job we'll talk to. You Next, week That's. Nathan that's
chris we'll. Take A break danny Jackson Speaking a world
cup Coming up next.

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little bit of Good. News for seattle let's see what
else we. Got Going on. World cup updates brazil with
a late goal, in Stoppage time beats japan. Two to
one They move On. Germany and, Paraguay just, underway i'll
say just. In a way they're about thirty four minutes
in and they Are. Playing in boston no score. In
that Game netherlands and morocco. Later on, tonight OF course The.

(01:20:11):
Us plays wednesday i'll take on o'sny of that game
in the round, of thirty two trying to get to the,
round of sixteen which would put them Back. Here in
seattle big TRADE. In the nba, Just Moments ago john
morant Going To. The portland trailblazers what in The Name
of sebastian telfair and his gun possession are We? Do
in portland Apparently people in. PORTLAND are upset i think

(01:20:32):
also the. Team might move that's. What they're thinking it's
a bad day down There. For the blade do you
think it's a bad Day for? A mariner fan really
bad Day for. A blazer fan, along the way let's
get to the third. Hour the show don't, forget four
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mentioned it. A moment Ago germany and paraguay thirty fifth
minute now No, Score in foxborough massachusetts joining Us On the.

(01:20:57):
Beacon plumbing hotline we had them on here at the
Start Of the world cup with a LITTLE, Roundtable with
Fifa Felts, and anderson hurst The Long. LOST anderson hurst
i don't even know if. HE works anymore i haven't. Seen,
HIM forever. No i joke he's working hard with the.
Soccer Right now danny jackson is the Voice of. Your
seattle sounder is part Of our. Great iHeart team HE
joined us I. Think from california, first of all how's
your son doing. In his tournament that's the big One for.

(01:21:18):
The jackson family it is.

Speaker 9 (01:21:21):
He's doing well he's in the, round of sixteen so
we have a. Day off today.

Speaker 3 (01:21:25):
He, played tomorrow well we need.

Speaker 2 (01:21:28):
Round of, sixteen sounds sweet especially for Us. Here, in
seattle danny let Me get to let me. Start with
this we've got the game that Happened earlier with brazil getting.
The late Win we had canada yesterday getting the win
moving on to the. Round of sixteen so we're kind
of we're getting to this round. Of thirty two but
let me just go back to the knockout or. The

(01:21:49):
group stage what jumped, out at you? What surprised you
who's not in the round of thirty two that you
thought would be there.

Speaker 9 (01:21:58):
On the two teams that jump out for me Would Be.
The south korea there's an inquisition Going On in south
korea right now about why that team. Did not qualify
the started off well in their group player and then
it deteriorated from. That POINT forward And i think uruguay
would be the other team that jumps out for me
of a team that was expected to go Far Under,
the great bilsa the head coach there and it didn't

(01:22:21):
quite work out for a couple of draws going to
that final game that weren't able to get over the
hump in, that final game so there would be the
two teams. That were surprised then of course you get
the Likes of The Congo, and cape verdi and a
number of teams Coming out of africa that qualified for
the knockout round for. The FIRST time so i think

(01:22:42):
it's the combination so far of the big time players
turning up and, scoring fantastic goals like The likes Of,
messy and, Bappe, Of Course, harland harry kane and then
of course You got the cinderella, stories as well so
you got fantastic stories to print on the front page
and the back page.

Speaker 7 (01:22:59):
Of the.

Speaker 9 (01:23:00):
Newspapers So far.

Speaker 7 (01:23:03):
Danny.

Speaker 2 (01:23:04):
Jackson, joining us danny let me take a broad view here,
for a second because you kind of talked about some
of the upsets and teams getting there through to the
round of thirty two for the first of the knockout
stage for the first time ever in. Their country's history
canada getting to the round of sixteen for the first
time in, its country's history which is, a great story
great atmosphere to Know they're in la yesterday Down in

(01:23:25):
southern california as opposed To playing in canada because of
that loss in. The group stage but there's a couple things. In,
play here one what we've Seen here in seattle, has
been remarkable and really it's across the Country And, across
north america but what we've Seen here in seattle is.
Second to none then you've got the fact that it's
the first time we've expanded it, to forty eight so it's.

(01:23:46):
A bigger tournament i feel like. That bigger field although
there have been a couple games in the group stage,
that weren't great maybe some teams that, looked like they frankly,
maybe didn't belong it feels like the bigger group stage
and more opportunities has really proven, to BE great AND
i just i think it's been a success beyond anybody's

(01:24:07):
wildest expectations Here In the, United states specifically what are
your overall thoughts on what we've seen so far as
we head into. THE knockout rounds.

Speaker 9 (01:24:16):
I agree. ONE hundred percent i think it's really ignited
the game of soccer. IN this country i think the
attention for, the big games, the small teams, the Big
players the Scottish fans, drinking Boston dry the dutch dancing
in The Streets, of kansas city and it's been. FANTASTIC

(01:24:38):
to see i think the fans go wide and far
across The Breadth, of North, america INTO, mexico the us
And obviously into, canada as well and for people around
the world to see a different SIDE, of the, us
the scene neighborhoods and cities that they may not. HAVE
ever visited i think People coming into seattle have seen

(01:24:59):
what all a magical place this is coming from, far
AND wide and i just believe that the opportunity to
play with more teams were certainly, a QUESTION mark but
i think the way that the games have played out
with teams that maybe in a tournament of thirty two
teams would, never make it but all of a sudden
they get to make and play on the biggest, stage

(01:25:21):
of sport and they get, to be heroes go from
maybe a couple of thousand followers to millions of followers because,
of one performance like some of the goalkeepers have had,
in this tournament where they've managed to keep some of
the great teams AT bay and i think that's what.
It's all about the game of soccer has always been
about trying, to you know expanded, across the world give

(01:25:44):
players the opportunity to. Fulfill their dreams certainly you. See
that here and, then of, course you know in the end,
of the day, as you mentioned the games so far have,
been very tight getting down to the business side, of
the tournament and The likes of brazil coming from the
hid to score in The, last minute canada, as you,
mentioned last minute now it gets to be a little bit.

(01:26:04):
MORE anxiety driven i, guess for fans they've had their
celebration and now it's, about you know surviving and advancing
and moving. Through the tournament BUT it's been i think.
You nailed it it's been a tournament that has, given
YOU everything and i, think it's something especially, in our
region that we'll look back, with great affection just the

(01:26:25):
man in which we were able to deliver such incredible.
Games so far and of course we have two more
games still To, play IN.

Speaker 2 (01:26:32):
Seattle, and i mean we All know what, seattle and, soccer.
You know means, And you. KNOW i'm old i was
there in seventy Four At the old memorial stadium and.
The original sounders we've always been a great soccer city
and community and we're showing that right now and obviously
welcoming The. World to seattle the, the you know the
scenes have been sensational and the atmosphere. Has been sensational

(01:26:53):
so now let's let's let's not. BURY the lead, I
don't want i don't want people want to KNOW that
the us gets to the round. Of thirty two, if
they win we all know they Come. BACK to seattle
i think we can all just dare to dream. For
a second it would JUST be a i came and
fouthing me a, Week from today what. A remarkable day
that could be an atmosphere. And everything else but they
have To win the round. Of thirty two what challenges

(01:27:16):
lie AHEAD for The, Us, on wednesday.

Speaker 9 (01:27:21):
Well of Course bos in Hezkavina, played in staffle already
getting a really important win in one of the last
game of. The group stage they. Are hardened team they've got,
lots of youth but they've also had lots of, experience
as well and they're the type of team that will.
Grind it out they showed in their First game in
Canada for the. Canadians tournament opener they can. Spoil the party.

(01:27:43):
They Almost did their canada were able to cull that
one back and get a one. To one tie so
don't look. Past this team they. Will come in they
will know that they can spoil the Party Down. In
SANTA clara but i DO think the us will. COME
through it i think they have got. Momentum right now
even though that flight stubb of The TOE against turkey
a in, that last minute but it was a. Much

(01:28:04):
changed team it was a game that they could get,
REST some players pulici could come off the bench. And
LOOK sharp so i think just there's too much GOING
for the. Us right now there's. TOO much athleticism i
think there's too much firepower from all areas. Of the
field they, look DEFENSIVELY strong which i think that was
a big question MARK for. The us team could they hold,

(01:28:26):
Teams that day could they? Keep clean sheets they've done
that in the group stage orbit giving up obviously three
goals in. Their LAST game but i think. They'll come
back they'll get their starters back, On the field they'll
know the carrot in, front OF them because i do
think if things transpires you mentioned and they'll Be. Back
in seapple the Chances they'll Play belgium and belgium have

(01:28:48):
played Games obviously. At lumenfield already their home base Is
down in rent and down the. Sound of facility, by
all counts they're loving Being In. The PACIFIC northwest but
i think they're, a beatable team been in a top
ten team for many years. In the world they have
this golden. Generation OF player but i certainly THINK that
the us have the ability to push through there and

(01:29:10):
get to the quarter final where potentially they get To.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
Meet a spain is There any chance senegal is Able,
To upset.

Speaker 9 (01:29:16):
Belgium no question they are a, dynamic athletic team which
maybe that will be the type of team That will
cause belgium. Some real problems they've Got players like Lukaku
and de bruyna who are coming at the very tail end.
Of their career the question is at the pace of
the game and the tempo of that, GAME is High

(01:29:37):
i think. Belgium COULD suffer but i do think that
you get to some of these muscle memory type of
moments And, tournaments, where belgium no this is gonna be
their last chance, with these players can? They TURN up
but i. THINK you're Right i think Senegal just Like,
bosi and herskeevina it's not a pushover at this. Point
in time all, teams have momentum all teams have confidence

(01:29:57):
coming through what's been a tough groups stay. For many,
TEAMS and Yeah i think belgium is going to have,
the HANDS full but i think in the end of
the day they'll plow it out into. A tight game and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:08):
You mentioned some of the.

Speaker 9 (01:30:09):
Games already played germany playing right now Of. Course against
paraguay the games now, will get tighter and it's gonna
be a bit of magic or mistake that will cause
these games to go one way.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Or the other japan almost, forced extra, time you know
the two or two to. Fifty minute overtimes there's. No
golden goal they almost Forced. That against brazil brazil scoring
in stoppage time gets the gets. The late VICTORY and
now i can Tell you that. Paraguay just Scored they
lead germany one nil and they're in the forty fourth
minute of. The first half there's, gonna, be upsets right

(01:30:40):
this is how. It's gonna happen Of teams Like germany Or, Spain,
Or france brazil argentina some of the great powers. In
this world who are the teams that you think are
most susceptible to get knocked out in this stage in
the round. Of, THIRTY two.

Speaker 9 (01:30:56):
Well i think portugal. Will will potentially there's a lot
of individuals that Myself said that portugal could be a
dark Horse In. This war cup the Question Is. Around
cristiano ronaldo is he going to be The talisman as
messi has been So far by argentina or is he
going To? Be distractions portugal will they get the best
out of the rest of the players who are arguably

(01:31:17):
some of the best in the world in. Their respective,
positions so far they've come through a group Stage in a.
Thai GROUP stage But i think croatia will be. A
tough match i think they'll get through that and Then
they'll hit spain and, then they'll lose which again it's
not going to be a. SHOCK for them i think
THE question Is i thought Brazil against potentially Norway coming

(01:31:37):
through norway In Their first world cup. In many years
they Have the enigmatic harland who Plays. For man city he's,
Already scoring goals he's. Just The character And brazil play
Norway potentially if noruay come through Their Game, against ivory
coast which again. Is no Pushover but if norway, GET
through That i think norway has a chance To maybe
knock brazil off their. Perch AS well so i think

(01:31:59):
what out For A potential brazil norway in the round
Of sixteen and norway to come.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Through that one how disappointing Will It be if germany
isn't able to come back here? IN this game i think.

Speaker 9 (01:32:09):
IT'S a Shocker i think germany is one of those
teams that they have arguably one of the best attacking
Three In, the world cup but again it's you. JUST
never Know i think germany has obviously Had four, time
world champions but they've not done well the Last Couple.
Of world cups after winning The Twenty, fourteen world cup
they have now a bit of negative muscle mary after

(01:32:29):
not getting out of group stage in eighteen. Or TWENTY
two so i think they'll. Have a chance they've obviously
come from behind Already In.

Speaker 4 (01:32:36):
This world.

Speaker 9 (01:32:37):
Cup they will they're one of those teams that have
a good mix of. YOUTH and experience i think this
game will. Turn itself again brazil, came from behind. Don't,
forget that yeah to win that game in. The final minute,
AS you Mentioned i think germany.

Speaker 4 (01:32:51):
Will take some.

Speaker 9 (01:32:53):
We'll be patient. IN that game i think will be
a good second half.

Speaker 2 (01:32:56):
Of, THE gyms yeah. I would agree i'll wrap it
Up With This danny jackson joina's voice in the sound
also Part Of our world cup coverage Here On. The
iHeartRadio network So just to canada last night watching that
it's unfortunately they messed up and they didn't finish in
their group and had to go. On the road But
They played south africa and so far atmosphere looked. Electric
down there it Felt like a, canadian HOME game and
i mentioned they've never been. This far, before you KNOW

(01:33:19):
while the us has been getting a little bit better and,
Kind of improving canada feels like it's been stuck in
the mud. For a while but they. GET that win
i know the country up there. Is going nuts what
do you think that win meant for our neighbors, to
the north and Really Just for north american soccer. As, a, WHOLE.

Speaker 9 (01:33:33):
Yesterday well i Think On, The jesse marsh canada have
really turned the corner in the last. Couple of years
they have some world Cluff players and, davies of course
Plays played in vancouver Went to buy munich as one
of the best left sided players. In the world now he's,
back FROM injury so i think having him back for
The Game against south africa to really get, a run

(01:33:54):
out he. Showed His quality jesse marsh has been very
vocal in the manner in which he has expressed Is
joy on canada's. SUCCESS so far i think there was
comments picked up when he brought that team in a
huddle And telling the canadian players that they were heroes
now and that's just getting through to. The NEXT round
So i think, Mexico as well i've got a good

(01:34:16):
solid path ahead of them as well in of making eroads.
Into this, tournament of course it. Could be Fascinating they
play ecuador in their round of thirty two and they're
Matched up with England and so england come through what
is going to Be a fascinating cinderella Story with the
congo in their round. Of thirty two england will have
to Travel To The, mexico city stadium which is over seven,

(01:34:40):
thousand feet high and that altitude and that thin air
and smug Could cause the english or one OF the
favorites i Think For this world cups and real. Problems
AS well so i think the path Forward, for The
canadians for MEXICO and the us looks really. Favorable right
now and it's really hard. To STOP momentum and i
think all, those three teams wilped you have momentum going into.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
Their, having sixteen, danny great, stuff great job you guys.
Are killing it, keep it up enjoy the time with
your son down there and his round. Of sixteen tomorrow
best of luck To the. Young jackson, kid all right let's.

Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
GO get him. I, appreciate, it hey thanks, There He.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
Goes daddy jackson jonny's Poice of the sounders part of.
Our coverage too great stuff here Talking To the. World,
Cup today yeah paraguay with a. One nil lead they
are about a minute and a half before they get
To halftime In. Boston against germany that would be a
pretty massive upset. ALONG the way i think the fun
thing now is like the group stage had, some terrific
games had some really cool. Matchups early on then you

(01:35:35):
get to those third group stage games where LIKE, for,
the us frankly it meant nothing and they're benching, guys,
you're like okay and there's a few games like that team's.
Already been, eliminated you know one of the two, have
been eliminated may both, have been eliminated whatever. The case
was but now now, you watch this it's. The knockout
stage round to thirty two into the. Round of sixteen the.
Drama is unreal I'm just watching, germany RIGHT now and

(01:35:58):
I know. What danny said they've got. High quality players
you can see the stress like you can see Like ever.
Since paraguay scored even though in, The first half germany
just like, hit a switch like the urgency. They are
pressing because the pressure on a country like that in
the round, OF thirty two i don't think any of
us can fathom what that is like that is that

(01:36:19):
is big time pressure right now for those like you
cannot get knocked. Out this early so it's been. A
Fun Time the world cup's been just. A rousing success
and you know what the. BIGGER picture is I. ASKED
about canada i did even want to ASK about the
us what the bigger picture is. Down the road i'm
not sure how that'll work for the rest, of us
here Like, in THE states and i. Think the difference

(01:36:40):
and we'll get into this as the, days GO on
because i heard some people, bring it Up Like, like
olympic hockey the Difference With the olympic hockey Tournament And.
The world cup the best players on that Stage in
the olympics men and WOMEN with, the pwhl now but
JUST on, the nhl side the best players when the,

(01:37:00):
tournament was over they came back and they resumed PLAY. In,
the nhl here the best players, in this tournament, by
and large we're never going to see in this country
and this continent again because, they're playing overseas or they're
playing and They're Playing, in south america or They're playing
in mexico certainly And, certainly In, europe mostly europe and
so we won't see those SO the, AFTER i mean

(01:37:22):
i think the excitement of soccer, is one thing but
if you're looking to see the stars that are that
maybe A lot of americans and casual fans are now just,
getting introduced to you won't see. Them people here that's
that's probably the, one big difference but. CERTAINLY can't hurt
i think the the soccer has been winning, on the
field soccer has been winning, off the field and it's
been a hell of a run so Far In. This

(01:37:44):
world cup We're at Halftime paraguay and germany and it's,
one nil, still so yeah there Will be some there'll
be some squeezing into the Backsides here for germany coming
up here in. The second, half all right we'll come
back and check the text messages four nine. Four five
one that's four nine four, TO Five One sa tacoma
dodge text line four nine four. To five, one your thoughts.
Commons questions concerned we've been talking today a Lot. About

(01:38:05):
the mariners you Heard christ and nathan both say they
think although they both said they don't think, it will
happen they both said they think it should Happen that
the maurrier should make. A managerial change i don't. THINK
it'll happen i don't even know, if it should to be,
honest WITH you AND i guess i guess part of

(01:38:27):
me just feels like he's kind of got His Hands.
Tied Dan wilson But chris and nathan both brought up
great points about he's not, making him better and after
a road trip like that and a loss, like that
YESTERDAY certainly people i can understand, feeling that way so
we'll get. Your coming up we'll get your text coming
up four nine four five to one soft deal join
us at three or two forty five nine THREE. Point
three kfm.

Speaker 1 (01:38:49):
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Speaker 2 (01:39:05):
Misery LOVES company so i am enjoying the misery that's Coming.
Out of portland i'll admit. That very much, Still Right
now john morant reportedly Traded To. The portland trailblazers in the,
last three years he's played a total of. Seventy Nine
Games even zion williamson. Thinks. That's bad wow in trouble,

(01:39:29):
all the time injured, all the, time crap attitude. Doesn't
play defense not a great shooter has to have has
to be an. On ball guy but have you? Seen
him dunk he's exciting if he decides he's not a
in trouble or. B, not hurt yeah but. You Can't
shoot damian lower's coming. Back next season he's got to be,

(01:39:52):
on the ball has to be the part, of something
else but just watching The meltdown in, portland right now
when our baseball team just did what it did over
the last, Couple of days. I'm enjoying it i'll be,
Honest with you i'm very. Much enjoying it, Along, the
way uh let's get. To some, texts four nine. Four
five one i'll go all the way back to the
start of. The show today let's see. Two Five Three

(01:40:15):
if dan wilson was the MANAGER of any mlb Team,
other than seattle he would have been. Fired by Now,
Shame on Stanton depoto and holland are for allowing this nepotism.
Process to continue Four two five is? It still? Early
to another Four two five Wilson is just jerry sock
puppet To four to oh? What bothers me the lack

(01:40:40):
Of play That dan has victor. Robless right now she should,
be playing more had the. Moose bullpen responsibility couldn't be Worse.
THAN ie keith. I like that m this is interesting one.
Two fight three what did you guys Expect? From the
manners they have no idea. What they're doing, first of
all they do, what they do know. What they're doing
it's not? Working right now what do we expect a

(01:41:02):
team that was six outs away from Going To. THE
world series i don't think we'd expect them to be
under five hundred at the midway point. OF the season
i don't think. WE expected that i. Could Be wrong.
MAYBE i'm, wrong I don't but i certainly. Didn't expect
that we. ASKED kind of i use the term annoyed
earlier in Two, six says yeah. That's exactly right i'm
annoyed with the baseball team and on the verge of

(01:41:23):
kicking this team to the curve, forever Fifty Years zero,
world series appearances especially if everything in plays for this.
Team to, win horrible division horrible league roster that most
people consider the best, in the ale the best starting
staff IN all of mlb at their manager is holding
them back from ever. Reaching their. Potential IT'S sickening.

Speaker 5 (01:41:41):
Two o.

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Six area code this, team, is unfocused. Sloppy and lazy
can't blame. Injuries for that that's one hundred percent on.
COACHES and manager i, do THINK that and i mentioned
This with christ and at a. Couple of times there
has to, be some culpability there has to. Be some
responsibility that's taken on, by the players the starting pitching,

(01:42:02):
By and large you guys, get a pass, you move
on go back.

Speaker 7 (01:42:06):
To your.

Speaker 2 (01:42:06):
Room you're fine the rest of. You stay here the.
Rest of you we're going to have A conversation with muno,
is better lately but hasn't been great consistently all, year
started out had to bumps. In the road you need
to be, that. Same, GUY spire okay i. Think you're
okay we can Move. Along the zarto you are.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
Who you.

Speaker 2 (01:42:25):
Are you're fine now let's get to the lineup defensively
by some metrics of the worst defensive Team In. The
american League You saw rosa reino yesterday kind of half
assing it.

Speaker 7 (01:42:37):
TO a Ball.

Speaker 2 (01:42:40):
I think. Garver, DROPS it yeah i kind of kind
of got kicked. Out of, it, but still yes. You
need that, you needed that really, really needed that and.
It didn't happen AND that was i brought up. To,
two guys listen your two superstars, In a Sense julio
and cal have got. To be better it just IT'S

(01:43:04):
not Really. I mean naylor naylor's been disappointing for sure
for what he signed for. Bringing him, back the, Expectations
you know chris, says It off and chris Said it
on thursday when he came out off. TO the show
i thought it was. A good point and he talked
about this at the start. Of the season he's talked
about it after they signed him or. Re signed him

(01:43:24):
naylor's when he starts to regress, and show age it
could really happen fast and it may, not be pretty
and so you're hoping that's. Not the case but really
it comes down To, me to Julio and cal cal
gets a slight pass because he, was banged up but
since he, has come back he's done nothing. Offensively For
you and julio Slow month Of, march slash april first month,

(01:43:50):
Of the season julio was really he, was below, average Not,
Good terrific may. June not good the thing is people,
will point to let's look at the numbers at the end,
of THE season and i understand that we. All understand
that the, problem, is that yes you can end up,

(01:44:12):
raising your average Having a Great, august or september maybe
even A, really strong july Shorter month of july with the,
break and everything but still you, could do that but then, you're,
gonna say wow we missed the playoffs by a game
or two or what didn't get. Home field Advantage if
only julio was consistently better instead of, hot or cold
there's really no, in, between red. Hot ice cold, simple

(01:44:35):
as that he's got to be consistent and they need
him to Be better and cal hopefully he'll. Get it,
going but, we're you know eighty, four, games in right eighty.
Three games in cal's got to be, better for you.
Just has to if he's good enough to be, on
the field he's got to be. Better for, you tom
says coach is always about how they can live, with

(01:44:55):
physical mistakes but mental. Mistakes are unacceptable wilson is making.

Speaker 7 (01:44:58):
Mental.

Speaker 2 (01:44:58):
Mistakes, constantly interesting yeah it's, on The players but wilson's
decision making is under his control and if he can't,
make correct decisions he. Needs. To go wow we talked
about the cracking for. A little bit i got a
couple of Texts on that i'm gonna read THIS one.
AND i, hesitate I hesitate but i'm gonna. Read, it

(01:45:19):
anyway hey, in my opinions and the national GUYS in
the nhl are Just gaslighting Aast seattle because blank has it.
In for us it's. A. DEMOCRATIC city piece i don't
THINK that the nhl media or, players are, Saying hey
man seattle's too liberal. OF a City i think seattle
is an easy scapegoat along the way somebody else that's

(01:45:41):
spent sales spent tens of millions of dollars to move
up and. MOVE the zombies i hide them for a
few Weeks With, the world cup going to. SALES honestly
depressing i spend a bell on about five days a,
month IN sales so I guess if i haven't gone.
Blind to it, But it's terrible so he does the people.
Actually killing themselves so FENTANEL every. Time i go and
you'll argue that walking by that to spare is beautiful
and amazing and. Everything is perfect i'm. NOT arguing that
i just know where the team stay when, they COME

(01:46:01):
here and i know that when they stay in certain,
five star Hotels either in Bellevue, or downtown seattle the
areas they're in are. Pretty damn nice they're usually here
and gone. After one day they don't walk around like, the,
one comment oh you walk. Around the arena they don't walk.
Around the arena they pull into a bus that a
bus pulls them, Into the basement they get off the

(01:46:22):
bus and go into. The locker room they get on
the bus and they head off and jump on the chart.
And go home so that's ridiculous comment that they're ripping
on the area that the. Arena is in it's it's
more than PLAYERS in the nhl can dictate, where they
go more than any, league out there and they're doing,
it right now and they want to go to there's
here's what. They, look for, sunshine palm trees, no tax

(01:46:43):
state and a team that's ready To Win a stanley.
Cup right now that's what. They're looking for it's just as. Simple,
as that okay a, COUPLE more here a lot of. Fifty,
Four comments yeah mariners appear to, play to lose play
not to lose often rather than. Play to win now

(01:47:03):
you're holding. ON to lead i can see that. In
a sense, OH let's see i. Did, see that boy
there's A lot of i. Mean Two six dan wilson's
record would not be Tolerated, by the seahawks and the
m sticking with him is a big part. Of the
problem there's a good one for two. Five whine saddle,
Must We say dan wilson's a nice man before we
say he's. A terrible manager.

Speaker 4 (01:47:25):
I.

Speaker 2 (01:47:25):
THINK it's HARD i think i, understand you're right. IT'S
pro sports i think with that it's more of, people are,
reluctant media specifically and even fans are, reluctant, to Say
hey the mariners need to make. A Managerial Change because
dan wilson's a very popular figure both from. His playing days,
who he is how, he treats people is standing. IN the,

(01:47:46):
community i mean that's not an easy thing, when, people
say hey we think the manager. Should be fired if
the Manager's Name was mike, hargrove or something it'd be,
a lot different. A lot easier but that's not. The
case Here dan's. A mariner legend so that's why there's
always a disclaimer before. You say something let's See if jail.

(01:48:08):
Blazers are back, Yes, they are, Yes, they are. Yes,
they are god. That's so good, John, Moracoing there keith i'll.
Wrap it up that was a. Long overdue molliwop this
Team Has Been luke wrmanck beest And even if dan is,
a fall guy some virgin needs to be throwing the
volcano to keep the mountainous fans from erupting into. Apathy onhred,
percent well, said well done well done all. The way,

(01:48:31):
around good text a lot of. PEOPLE pissed off. I
get it we'll. See what, happens probably nothing when it's all,
said and. Done will happen. But we'll, See all right,
we're just underway, by the way in. The Second half. Germany.
Paraguay One nothing the germans are trailing in what would
be a massive upset in the round, of thirty two

(01:48:52):
especially for those of us that might Have Visited the Stokuama,
casino On friday on saturday and little Juice. On the, germans,
come on now, let's get, going so off, he joins us. Coming, up,
next okay already, here we go.

Speaker 7 (01:49:16):
Ending down to.

Speaker 2 (01:49:16):
Jimmy's on first you can feel feel the excitement in.

Speaker 7 (01:49:20):
The air with the.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
Angels in town the. Angels are, here.

Speaker 10 (01:49:23):
Huh, no no no that's not what people are. Fired,
up for man what are they? Fired up for you
Should see these belgium fans that are here lining up
for The game on wednesday. At one o'clock senegal fans,
are already, Here Already, here Oh god the Seneguese. Or
the senegalese how, do you say do? You know what
you have a better?

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
IDEA than me.

Speaker 7 (01:49:41):
I really Don't.

Speaker 10 (01:49:44):
Someone from, senegal is called let's see what's your.

Speaker 2 (01:49:47):
Guests, By, The, Way, Senegalian. Senegalese senegalese senegalese wait that
games at one. O'clock all wrecked oh.

Speaker 7 (01:49:59):
YOU'RE carrying It i think germany is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
Uh, has scored yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:50:02):
Look at that germans that were taping it wanted to
watch it when. They got home that's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:07):
That's a problem.

Speaker 10 (01:50:08):
And appreciate that that's my plan for the night was
To go Watch. Paraguay and germany and he.

Speaker 2 (01:50:13):
Just blew it there is absolutely zero chance that that.
Is the case that is zero chance that that. Is,
the case, well you know.

Speaker 10 (01:50:18):
It's really funny we're we're we were Looking at the
MARINERS schedule and i knew this a couple, of WEEKS
ago but i had Forgotten it because i'm such IN
the us a mode Now For, the world, cup Right
right and i'm Looking at this angels schedule asking myself
today on our, little.

Speaker 7 (01:50:32):
Show meeting why do they have a Day?

Speaker 10 (01:50:34):
Off On wednesday and i'm, Thinking, to myself yeah they
must have thought There Was a.

Speaker 7 (01:50:37):
World cup game there actually, is a Word Is a?

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
World, cup game yeah it just.

Speaker 10 (01:50:41):
Doesn't Involve us on wednesday at? What a clock so
that's why. They're, doing, that yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
We're carrying that we're not.

Speaker 7 (01:50:47):
CARRYING that game.

Speaker 10 (01:50:48):
I don't know i'm not sure. IF we are i
know we're Carrying, the GAME wednesday Us.

Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
A And.

Speaker 7 (01:50:51):
BOSNIA it hurtzegovina.

Speaker 2 (01:50:53):
I think we should carry the GAME. On from la
shouldn't we carry That? Game on wednesday, just, for giggles
right because that would. Be the winner the winner would BE.

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
Playing the us so you think that somebody would listen
to that game with like. A scouting eye is that what?

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
You're, Talking about no I'm talking about I'm talking about
ian getting the day Off is what. I'm talking About
nine fifty.

Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
You know what you do a radio show for a?

Speaker 10 (01:51:17):
Living, shut out Hey listen as kevin Is The great kevin,
collaboro once said we work on the.

Speaker 7 (01:51:22):
TOYS and, GAMES i really i.

Speaker 2 (01:51:24):
REALLY don't care, I, LOVE you kevin. I don't care this,
is about. Me, not him morgan if you're back In,
here on wednesday just get ready. To pop, in you
know Let's. Let's check live Let's Do. Some listen live it's.

Speaker 7 (01:51:37):
Got an Update From the.

Speaker 10 (01:51:38):
Belgium senegal game and again, They're, What, Now, senegalese Senegalese?

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Senegal the? Senegal Does?

Speaker 7 (01:51:47):
This, Guess. Senegalien, yeah senegalian yeah that, makes total.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
SENSE doesn't it i would have.

Speaker 7 (01:51:52):
Gone, With that yeah i'm, not IN charge But.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
I should senegalese that just rolls, off. The Tongue doesn't
john strong doing The game the senegal with them all here, WE.

Speaker 7 (01:52:00):
Go anyway a Good show With.

Speaker 10 (01:52:05):
Bishop, And crawford well i'll tell myself agreeing with almost
everything they say, on that.

Speaker 2 (01:52:09):
Show which is weird because that's not always been the
case for a lot of the.

Speaker 7 (01:52:13):
Piggyback thing and the.

Speaker 10 (01:52:14):
Six man thing, it's LIKE it's Like i said egan
today On On the, little king thing we do.

Speaker 7 (01:52:19):
They just got to. Pick. A path man just waffling is. Just,
getting ridiculous now it's just So.

Speaker 2 (01:52:25):
What happens. Saturday just listen does it affect? You or
not it's just. A bad look it makes it look
like you're the optics, are, really, bad.

Speaker 10 (01:52:32):
Like well we don't know, What we're doing like you
don't really believe in what, you're, Doing right right you're,
Just and look i'm all for having some flexibility. On,
game day right starter's pitching his ass off and you
don't need the guy. In The Bullpen but logan gilbert
is preparing for a Piggyback Role with emerson hancock and
then you go to, him, and say oh we're, gonna.
SCRAP that right i, mean it's, like come on, six
man's on, six man's off, five man's on, six man's,

(01:52:53):
back piggybacks, on piggybacks off piggybacks. Back on again cow's
hitting all, Over The place colt emerson's hitting all, Over,
the place like what?

Speaker 7 (01:53:01):
Are?

Speaker 5 (01:53:01):
We?

Speaker 2 (01:53:01):
Doing man well and on, top of that you got
with a with six starters, on your roster then you're
Uced To having Josh Simpson and michael Rutcker on YOUR
dick and i.

Speaker 7 (01:53:10):
Were talking about that.

Speaker 10 (01:53:11):
GAME last, night i mean how great would It Be
if Luis Castile or emoson hancock were?

Speaker 4 (01:53:15):
In?

Speaker 10 (01:53:15):
The bullpen right and they could have gone to one
of the two yesterday got of going, To you know
larry mow And curly.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Right, rutger And Simpson. THAT'S josh simpson, i was Like
Is that. Joe simpson IS that's.

Speaker 7 (01:53:27):
What i THOUGHT that's. What I thought Darius Rutger. AND
joe simpson I guarantee you boger has No Idea who.
Joe simpson is, by the way do.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
You Know who? Joe, simpson is? Bwger, no, idea Okay yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:53:37):
Former marin broadcasters. LONG time after i think he's actually still.

Speaker 2 (01:53:42):
Working with The. With, the, brave, yes yes yeah. He
was great he was awesome on. The air man.

Speaker 7 (01:53:47):
He's, still there yeah. He's. Still, There, ye anyway yeah we'll.
Talk about that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
Lots of, Lots of fun like where does that? Game
yesterday rank like is it just another one? Of those
games or that one feel like it's stung a? Little,
bit more.

Speaker 7 (01:53:58):
No it was it's That in the andre game when
they were up five to one and Pissed It away san.
Diego for that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
But can You live with? Munos doing that it's like he's,
Your best guy he's he didn't have.

Speaker 7 (01:54:08):
It, THAT day, YEAH i.

Speaker 10 (01:54:10):
MEAN i, Guess i mean, i'm just saying as far
as the bottom, of the barrel those feel like the
two ones that are scraping the Floor Of.

Speaker 2 (01:54:15):
THE atlantic ocean, I would AGREE i would.

Speaker 10 (01:54:17):
I mean all like the all the what's the stuff
called the fossils or not the fossils that they grow with.

Speaker 2 (01:54:23):
The coral coral coral reef that Grows.

Speaker 7 (01:54:27):
On the titanic those two games are the.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Coral, whatever, it is barnacles, the barn articles the barnacle?
Article of barnacles? Did, you, BARNACLES well listen i brought,
this up early like, Misery loves company so You know
what i'm, Gonna do today i'm just gonna chuckle at
the Fact That the portland Trailblazers Picked. Up ja morant how?

Speaker 7 (01:54:45):
About that man they got a coach on a.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
One year deal coach on a one year deal in.

Speaker 7 (01:54:48):
An owner, who hates everybody and everybody hates.

Speaker 2 (01:54:50):
Him and doesn't? Doesn't, you know well YOU know. WHAT
i got i got a text from one of my
media buddies down there. A, minute ago yeah and and
he refers To Him as.

Speaker 7 (01:55:00):
Clay.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Bennett.

Speaker 10 (01:55:01):
Junior wow yeah so So If He's, clay bennett junior
then where's he moving? The team to where does he
want to move? The team to The guy is Austin
tex from Is He from New?

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
YORK or, DALLAS i thought i thought he's More of. A, texas, guy.

Speaker 7 (01:55:15):
Okay, well.

Speaker 10 (01:55:16):
Yeah dallas whatever but there's A Team. In new york
there's A, team in dallas and there's A team in
carolina where He. Owns the hurricane, well sort Of where's
He going's Not. Ray's not charlotte they're gonna put Two Teams? In,
NORTH carolina, Really.

Speaker 2 (01:55:31):
I, think well dave they put A Team. In, oklahoma city,
yeah you're right.

Speaker 7 (01:55:37):
Think, about that, Right you're right but they put Two.
Teams in? OKLAHOMA all right i being told.

Speaker 2 (01:55:42):
We gotta go you got. A big show what are?

Speaker 7 (01:55:44):
You, doing today oh we don't have a big. Show
at all.

Speaker 10 (01:55:46):
He's just average millon's, on at four a little more
four and are show at Four And then bill krueger.

Speaker 7 (01:55:52):
Will join us i'm sure he's in.

Speaker 10 (01:55:54):
A good mood sure at, five o'clock tonight a little,
fun with audio We'll Do The baseball's cocking, Mamby pregame,
show hardball pregame whatever the hell we're.

Speaker 7 (01:56:02):
Calling that Thing.

Speaker 10 (01:56:02):
Courtesy a pepco, had some thoughts lots of thoughts. On
the weekend It Was, for marita baseball.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
Lots Of thoughts lots i'm going to tune in. For
your thoughts how many, thoughts you Got lots none see for.

Speaker 7 (01:56:18):
The mild mannered And.

Speaker 10 (01:56:19):
Marginally objectionable Inverness This, is padel day saying, so long
everyone

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