Big Facts feat. GUNPLAY

Gunplay pulls up to Big Facts for a raw, unfiltered conversation. He reflects on his journey alongside Rick Ross, the evolution of his career, and the realities behind fame. From personal struggles to lessons learned in marriage and life, Gunplay delivers honesty, growth, and street wisdom you don’t want to mis

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big Bank, DJ scream, bring you Big Facts in the street.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Live from Revold Studios and the atl's time for that
Big Facts, Big Bank.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
What up?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
DJ scream, I'm here listen, gun play Don Logan in
the building on Big Facts. Finally, finally, finally.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
What's something? We're here? We ain't here, baby, what's up?
Where the hell your being?

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Man? That's the first question.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Where the hell?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Gun play?

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Ben man boxing these demons? Man, they at me, man,
they at me heavy. But uh, you know I was
I was on house arrest for like two and a
half years.

Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah, fighting the case. The case was dismissed.

Speaker 4 (00:39):
Uh, you just try to revoke my bond multiple times
to push back the trial.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
So so let's jump straight into these headlines because you
be scrolling on your timeline and TMZ. Then it come
up gun play, arm robbery, gun play, kidnapping. I'm like,
that ain't a gun play, a wild nigga, but it
ain't the play. I know, like you're still a you
know what I'm saying. Of course, if you got to
get active, you get active. How did how did how

(01:04):
did we get to these the intensity of these charges
in these headlines.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
The first, the first one with the armed robbery.

Speaker 4 (01:12):
That was like, I haven't been I wasn't in the
streets for about seven years up to that point. I
didn't know that it was a thing that we call
police now. I didn't know that yet. I ain't know, boy,
the thing is to call police on your ops. I
did not know that. So when we went through it,
I thought it was like, you know, you know, it

(01:33):
was some we both doing wrong, and so you know,
it's like all right, so you you're trying to you're
trying to wrong my wrong and trying to steal my wrong.
So I had to go in there and handle my business.
But then I thought we was just going to go
to war. And until I got the call Niggas say, boy,
Niggas say give him his chain back or he's going
to go call the police on you, ruin you, I'm like,

(01:54):
what the fuck? That He was in his office with
Niggas and Ship watching the tape over and over like
like Chauncey's man, you know what I'm saying, and that
niggas is sitting there and they're like, boy, we could
get five hundred out of ross.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
We could get at least And they've been making bigs
on this, but at least I don't want to fifty
get about that. Nigga always this dog I'm trying to tape.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
And then my dog called me like Boddy in here,
like like your super Bowl extortion. Yeah, like you know
what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying. They're
watching this shit like the super Bowl. Man, I said, Man,
tell that nigga. You know you and problems. Now you
go to the police. You have the biggest problems of
your life. You'll never get rid of these problems, you
know what I'm saying. So later, you know, as the

(02:37):
case went on, it was case dismiss he and showed
up the court and I was that. But then that
time that I put myself in that position, I told myself,
I will never put myself in that position, you know
what I'm saying, And I haven't. I haven't for since
that time. I haven't been in jail for thirteen years.
You know what I'm saying. That was twenty twelve. It

(02:57):
is twenty twenty three, well, tenure years, twenty eleven years, you.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
Know what I'm saying. Twenty twenty twelve, twenty twelve, twenty twenty.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
Three is when that fabricated charge got put on me,
you know what I'm saying. So I was on a
straight and narrow to the point where after that timeframe, I.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Think I'm ready to get married.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Now.

Speaker 4 (03:16):
I think I'm responsible enough, I hold myself accountable enough,
I know how to I'm self aware, I'm emotionally aware,
I know what's going on. I think I'm gonna do this.
And I think it was a midlife crisis as well.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yeah, crisis.

Speaker 4 (03:32):
I was like, we're gonna wipe my ass when I'm
fucking seventy bros going on.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So how did you We're saying we're locking in though,
what was your process of meeting that person?

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Like?

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Did you just meet him on some less shit? Was it? Like?
What was the process? Like I was because it ended up.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Not great? Yeah? So what it was? I had? I
had boxes that I needed.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
Every box had to be checked, right, and I forgot
a box. I forgot god fearing God fearing box, and
uh you know I uh.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Every box was checked. Man.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
She was She wanted a marriage, she wanted a baby,
a daughter. To be exact, we both wanted the same things.
And when everything came to fruition after like a year
and a half. I thought I was living in a
fantasy right now. I'm like, yo, were living in brick.

(04:37):
Who we got the daughter? I told you I was
gonna get you on the show, told you I was
gonna put some paper in your pocket, told you I
was this shit was gonna build, This was gonna be
a foundation for something greater in the you know that
we can have together. Let's go, let's go buy a
house together. Let's go. We start putting together for that.
And she would I needed her because at the time

(05:00):
I didn't I couldn't really manage my money like that
really good.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be transparent, so I
would fuck some money up.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
And I said, if I had a woman that could,
if I could bring the money home, she could turn
that house into a home, you see what I'm saying,
and make sure everything is And that's what she was
doing to the point where I was like, damn, this
is perfect, and she a squirt. I'm like, blood like what,
I don't need to cheat. I don't need to cheat, you.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:30):
And I asked for that. That was one of my
boxes that was checked. She because I know if the
main thing from my experience and relationships was the cheating.

Speaker 3 (05:41):
I can't, I can't. I got the fucking bitch.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
I got to see some shit and I gotta add
at But then I got to a point now where
I'm kind of like, you know, if I got something
good at good enough at home, I don't need nothing
out there. So you know, I got her. And but
that was just the whole thing to me was it
was a rule. It was a ruse to just her
playing the part for that long got her on the show,

(06:08):
and now she flips the script to get the storyline
popping to try to then now bring other nigga, another
niggas on the show. She tried like three niggas in
one year to bring on the show. You know, kind
of whoa out womb you got to have?

Speaker 3 (06:25):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, she tried to, but they ain't even fuck with
her because they say she too toxic. How you too
toxic for a toxic one of the most toxic shows,
you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
So they kicked her to the to the curve.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
But she went through three niggas after that, and it
just was like, oh, now I peep. She put me
on child support eleven days before the incident. I didn't
even know I was on child support. So I get
a child support thing. I'm like, what do you and
I saw when it was filed. It was filed eleven
days before the incident, you know what I'm saying. So
she was doing all of this, she was she played

(07:00):
a good one, but she did that to the It
was the right plan, wrong man.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
How did it get out the way to alleged kidnapping,
child abuse and just the headlines going crazy and basically
them trying to like ruin you.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:14):
So one night we are in Fleming Steakhouse around the
corner front of the crib down in Brickle. We go
back home, we go upstairs and I'm on the I
guess I usually get on the game. I get on
my war Zone and I'm in the head we got
the headphones on. But she's in the back of me,
in like the by the head of the bed, by

(07:35):
the headboard, and I'm at the end of the bed
and she's at the headboard of the bed with the
baby in her hand.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
But she's super loud like this like yeah, yeah, yeah,
she's six months old. And I'm like, damn dog fuck
I can't hear nothing, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
So I take the Xbox and I go. I say,
I'm talking to Homie. I'm finna go in the living room, man,
And then she got up. That was her her excuse
to find something. She was talking loud already, you see
what I'm saying, So I and for me to tell
her to be quiet, that would have started something. So

(08:10):
I already was like, I'm not even finna do none
of this because she tipsy, and when she's drunk, she
turns in and to send you to jail mode, you
know what I mean. So I'm already knowing this, so
I don't even want no flick with her. So I'm like,
all right, I take it to the living room. Instantly
got up and start snapping. I don't know if you

(08:30):
remember when I broke a TV one time. She had
put the footage of that right. We were both drunk.
The TV was already broken. We was moving. It was
in the process of moving in that time. Everything was
packed up. You ain't even notice all that. There was
a bunch of boxes in the back. We were leaving
the TV there. It was already broken. We were drunk
the night before the morning time. Whatever happened, I was like,

(08:52):
I break this shit, give me my bottle. I think
she hit my bottle with something doing stupid shit. I
broke the TV. I'm a serial TV beater. Sorry, I'm sorry.
Knock me up, you know what I mean. So so
so but but but realize she's filming all of this.
She's making sure. She's kind of like building ship up
on me. She she uh you know, so uh fast forward.

(09:15):
I take the she I take the xbox to the
living room. She jumps up, No, you're not gonna ruin
another DV, grabs the xbox, rips it out the TV,
takes it to my daughter room. Now I'm like, oh,
ship here she goes. So I go into the laundry

(09:35):
room that I made into a to a makeshift studio.
It was a small area in there, nice and you
know where I could go and record and I could
close the door and I could just get So I
go in there and I do that, and she comes
in there fucking with me.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Oh, I want a divorce. I want divorce.

Speaker 4 (09:51):
She's going crazy, and I'm like, yo, I give you
one Monday, Monday, Monday.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
Just chill, just chill.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
I'm trying to be calm and shit, and I put
my phone on live. That was the last video I
did that day, and you could see her coming in
the back. She's looking like this, looking like with the
bitch face, you know what I'm saying, and I'm smiling.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
I'm like and you know, I'm on the live.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
And she she had a next boyfriend that really beat
the shit out of her, right, and he's doing time
in prison for that. She was paying I guess she
had his phone in her name or whatever. She was
to pay the bills and and shit like that form
or whatever, and she turned his phone off and that's

(10:33):
why he whooped her and beat her ass right.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
And went to jail and all of that.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
So that was she thought she could use that same
thing on me, because in Jamaica, I crapped my screen.
She bought me another phone when I got back, gave
me that phone and I forgot it slip my mind
to change it back to my name, so it's still
in her name.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
So now she has that little.

Speaker 4 (10:54):
Piece of leverage like she had that other nigga that
couldn't control these emotions, and she tried to use it
on me, saying, oh, I'm gonna turn your phone off
while I'm on the phone on live and she's standing
behind me like this, and I'm like, all right, y'all.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
I played with it, I said, all right, I said,
damn fuck. I said, all right, yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
You're right. I gotta go, y'all. She's gonna turn my
phone off. So I cut the live off. I want
a divorce, give me as Avorce grabs the I'm like,
I'm like, yo, you tripping, bro. Like, we'll handle that Monday.
So I get back on the laptop. She slammed, slams
the laptop, hit me, hit me over the head with it,
and then I'm like, all right now, I'm finna get

(11:33):
you out of my house. Though, So I call about
to call the police. She won't. I'm no, I'm trying
to leave. I'm trying to leave out the the laundry
room and she's blocking me, and she's like, don't because
for me to push through it, I would have to
touch her. I would have to come in contact. So
I didn't do that, I said, and she was like,

(11:55):
don't touch me. This is a mom state. This is
a mom state. She has a in criminology. Okay, she
knows what she's doing. Brother, you see what I'm saying.
So I'm like, I'm like, fuck brouh. So she she's
now she's talking shit, talking shit, talking shit. She's trying
to gas like me. She's making up these delusions. She goes,

(12:16):
she's on the live on her live or or too,
and she's she's like, like, making up these ships to
gas like me.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
And I'm tired of my father paying the bills. Did
he pay my taxes too? And he paid my taxes? Please?

Speaker 4 (12:31):
Since he's paying all the fucking bills, pay my taxes,
you se saying. So she's trying to gas like me
to say bits, what the fuck are you talking? Like?

Speaker 3 (12:40):
What do you mean? What do you you You're the
one that pays my bills.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
You see how much money is coming into the account
every couple of weeks. What are you talking about? So
I'm doing it like that. And she's like, she's just
I wanted a varce. I'm tired of you beating me.
Who's touchy. I've never touched you, And she will make
these things up to gaslights you, okay, But I'm doing
the total opposite. I'm like, what are you not even

(13:06):
am acknowledging her dog, like you.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
So she's she's going off and then so so so at.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
One point, at one point I had.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
To after she hit me with that with with with
the thing, told me it's it's the mom state. I
finally get out of the laundry room, and while she's
going off, I'm calling the police.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
So I call him and then she's pit yaz nigger.
It's calling the police because.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
I'm a grown ass man and you and my house
fucking tripping, you know what I mean. I don't play
these toxic, fucking hood games.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Not in hindsight. You think you should just left.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
She wouldn't let me leave. She was She's the type
that will walk in front of you if you're trying
to leave you. I tried to leave the room. Don't
touch me.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
This is a mom state. She runs in front of you. Brother.
First I did the first month I met her, she
did that.

Speaker 4 (13:57):
Y'all got kids again, but she got pregnant. Now yeah, now,
but she had got pregnant. We you know what I
mean the first time, just so that kind of like
I left her, but her mom and her dad. The
first month I met her, she did the exact same thing,
but she was drunk.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Jess met her, couldn't find her keys.

Speaker 4 (14:12):
Had a party at her house, a watch party for
some football player friend son that has was playing in college.
They had everybody drinking. She can't find the keys at
the end of the day, and she's blaming me for it.
She starts picking things up and throwing it at me,
yelling help on, trying to call police. So I'm like
so she and pulls a knife out to try to

(14:34):
back me down. I'm in the balcony. This is the
first month I met her at her apartment.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh it was, it was.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I left it alone, bluddy, I left it alone. Her
mom call my phone.

Speaker 4 (14:47):
Texting me paragraphs in the Bible, texting me paragraphs, I'm
so sorry for my daughter's actions.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
I'm apologizing her father. Same thing for.

Speaker 4 (14:56):
Two months, and I would not I would not entertain
none of it. Bro Sometimes that they will call my
phone and just I apologize again. She was just got
out of an abusive relationship. She might have PTSD. She's
getting therapy for it. Her father, if you're if you're
a perfect man for her. This is who I need
in my life.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
For my daughter.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
Da Da da dah oh, so after maybe two months,
my nigga that she's pregnant. Now, right, she turns out
pregnant because you know from the month that we was
fucking so.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
And now I start entertaining her calls whatever whatever.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
We we handle that that situation and we uh we
start talking again. She gets pregnant again, but not this time.
Now we start talking again. We made amends with her family.
This is with co signed from her family, her mother
and her father and that's their first born.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
But they can't co sign with how she gonna lead them.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I know that, but but but but they they're giving
me that feeling of security.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Like you know what you're dealing with at home and
they're not there though.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
I know that, but that the other the other incidences were.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
They were they were dual. They were like, oh not
the was regular toxic shit. It wasn't nothing like that.
That first situation, the parents told me it was PTSD.
She just she just got beat the fuck up bad
and she just went whatever. And I'm like, okay, I
understand that. All right, let's let's you know what I mean,
let's try to move on. Stop the drinking and all

(16:35):
of that. But she drinks. She drinks, drinks, drinks, and
I don't drink. I didn't drink at that time, but
she got me back into drinking. You see, I'm saying,
always when we go to the restaurant, it's always around,
it's always around, it's always there. So after a while, Yeah,
you're gonna take a little mixed drink here and there.
Now you're gonna take a shot. Now you got a bottle.
Now it's back, you know what I mean. Now we're
back drinking and shit. So she uh, I called the police.

(17:00):
She starts a bit chess nigga d So I start
hanging up the phone and she I mean, she starts
calming down. I hang up the phone. I tell them
to listen, don't worry about it. She's calmed down, she
starts cranking up again. They called back, and I said, yes,
don't worry about it. I got this under control. I
sit on it. I lay on the bed. She's on
the phone with her mom and her dad, her grandmother, grandparents,
Da da da dah. She's drunk. She's they always entertaining

(17:22):
her while she's drunk, bro like like like she's.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Sober or whatever. So she's being hysterical for no fucking reason.
I did nothing to you, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
So then she uh her parents, her grandparents said YO, like,
just don't go to war, y'all, just chill, don't stop
this time. And then she's like, yeah, I don't want to
go to war. Then she comes in the room. I
got my head in my hand. I'm gonna buy it.
I got to divorce this fucking crazy bitch. Bro, this
shit is not gonna work out, you know what I'm saying.

(17:53):
So I'm in my mind, I'm like, damn, I gotta
start over again. Like I said, I just leave her
with this ship. I'm thinking of plans of moving and
how we're gonna do this. Now, I'm like, I'll just
leave her with everything here and I'll go get something
else somewhere else, because she got my daughter.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
I just got to get the fuck out of here though,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (18:09):
So while I'm thinking about that, she comes over to
me and she's like, I don't want to go to war.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I don't want to go to war with you. Why
the fuck did I say this? I don't to this now.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
I know why I said it, but I didn't know
why and who told me to say that, but something
got a download came through and when she said I
don't want to go to war with you, I looked
at her and said I do.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
And I know I said I do. Now hold on,
it wasn't me.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Talking, and I was talking about a war of divorce
of court.

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Let's go to what? No, you know what that bitch did.
That bitch went from crying like this, she was like.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
And went into the kitchen and came out with all
these glasses.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
She's athletic. She hits you with one of these. Whoy
first one glass hit the wall, bomb hit me, hit
me all over the place.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
I'm ducking and bobbing and weaving and shit on the bed.
She's throwing them bob making a hole in the wall.
Now I'm having fastback. So the first time we met,
I mean the first month that that happened. So I'm like, fuck,
here we go again. I'm busy trying to duck these
motherfucking glasses. My phone it's lost in the melee. I

(19:31):
can't you know what I mean, I'm not at that point.
I'm not looking for my phone yet. I'm just trying
to duck these fucking cups that's flying these glasses and
then she grabs the little personal bottle or patrol that
we just bought. She throws the contents at me and
then throws it at me and it breaks right here

(19:52):
on my elbow. Took a bottle of vodka, did the
same thing, throws the contents at me. Now I'm doubted
with liquor, and throws the bottle and it gashes me
right here.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
That's why I got that big a gash right there.
You know what I'm saying. So she gashed me right there.
So I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 4 (20:08):
So Now at this point, I'm trying to I'm while
she's doing yelling, throwing these glasses and throwing these bottles.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
She's yelling help, help, Help, what help?

Speaker 4 (20:18):
Bro? I saw I start yelling hell hell hell, Now
we're both I'm like, fuck br So I'm bleeding. So
she's doing all that and he ain't doing that. Now
I'm blocking my ship. I'm blocking nigga, I'm cutting the
funk up.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I'm blocking.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Your national instinct will tell you to defend yourself, though.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
That's what I'm defending myself.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
She's like, where you are, she's trying to harm you though,
So what you want me to do ship.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
You gotta contain the situation. If I touch that bitch,
I'm going to jail bra. But I beat the Listen.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
So, while she's throwing this ship at me, I passed
the polygraph test for my ship I got. I passed
a six hour long polygraphs. Yeah, that's a fact.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Put it up different, exactly six hours long. Already looking
at your face, you're kind of looking. I'm like, I
saw that. Let me tell him polgrad tell that different.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
But what I'm saying saying, but you would you would
think if throwing glance at me and all doing all this, hey, hold.

Speaker 4 (21:22):
On the the on me. Of course, the on me
would have knocked your ass out. I would have knocked
out hole to clean out. But I said, but but
I know, I know what I'm dealing with. I'm dealing
with you. I'm gonna put it up. I'm gonna put
that ship up, motherfucking you know what I'm saying. So so, so,

(21:43):
while she's throwing this, while she's throwing everything at me,
she's yelling help, right, I'm like, oh my god. So
I go into the bathroom. I go walk into the bathroom, right,
and to get knapkins to get tissue so I can
uh so I can uh clean up this blood. So
as I'm walking out the bathroom to get the tissue,

(22:05):
she's backing me down with a knife. Again, nigga's the knife,
So I'm like, there's a knife.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
The knife turns into self defense though, don't.

Speaker 4 (22:17):
You gotta understand, ad Listen, I'm the type of nigga,
see I don't when it comes to ship.

Speaker 3 (22:22):
I'm not the type of nigga that just react off
for instinct.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
I I analyze the entire situation like a fucking computer nigga,
and I make sure I'm like, okay, now I involved
the law before I defend myself. I involve everything and everything,
so I know if I kill your ass, I'm gonna
have the the best self defense situation on this right. So,

(22:47):
but with this situation, I don't, I'm gonna have to
disarm her. So and that's gonna have to be a
you know what I mean, a physical thing because remember
I know I cannot touch this bitch, bro ma, because
just just just just just bear with me. So she's
backing me down with the knife. I grab a pillow

(23:10):
and at this point I'm like, yo, I'm your husband,
snap out of it because her eyes are like this.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
She's looking through me, fool a, looking through me like.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
You think she was looking at the old Nigga.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
I think that's what it felt like. That's what it
felt like.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
It felt like a demon, like a demon was was
it was in her body because I could My determining
is crazy. I wasn't a human. That was not no
fucking human being. Bro, you know what I'm saying. Because
the way she would not respond to any anything that
I'm telling her, I'm like, yo, I'm your husband, I
love you. Stop what the fuck are you doing? And
she's backing me down. Hold on, let me finish pulling

(23:50):
up my ship. So y'all don't think I forgot boy.
Here it goes right here. Look at this Justice Polygraph Services, Okay,
confidential Polygraphic Examination report.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
I ain't never seen one. I just want to see one.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Go down, throw down, and then you'll see you'll see
a red You'll see red, a red question. Those are
the questions. There was four different questions, acts, twelve different
ways for twenty three a month after the motherfucking case, nigga.
And you'll seek at the bottom it says no, no,
indication of the of of deceptive whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
You know what I'm saying, basically.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
We need a polygraph examiner for big facts in the house.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
He's saying basically they say at the bottom of it
like he ain't lying, but.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, exactly, this is solid.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
And there's four of them. That's just the first one
where it said did I touch my daughter? Did I
touch her? Did I put a gun on her? Did
I false imprisoned in her? And did I throw anything?

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I wonder why I don't use this for all cases.

Speaker 3 (24:50):
Though, I don't know why. Bruh, this would have I
would have been I would have been clipped this ship. Bro.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
Look, it says they're actually three different ways. Did you
ever hurt your daughter? Did you ever hurt your daughter?
On August twentieth, twenty twenty three, did you ever hurt
your daughter in your home? And you scroll down right
here in black letters, no significant reactions indicative of deception.

Speaker 3 (25:13):
Right there?

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Look, No significant reaction indicative of deception. These are for
all four of them. You see what I'm saying. This
was a month after, so it's nice and fresh.

Speaker 5 (25:24):
How the whole situation like fuck with your melting and
your creation suicide suicide.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
This is supicide, you said, of course, absolutely did. I
wanted to bust my heart with a zipper blooker. How
why not?

Speaker 4 (25:41):
It's over? I just everybody left me. There was nobody.
I didn't get a phone call.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
I didn't get it. Are you okay?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I didn't get what happened? And I just have this
mut on the fucking line, Lion, Lion.

Speaker 5 (25:54):
Oh so you are gilted it to everybody else. Everybody
fail to your gifts.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Exactly, every the beginning. Everybody except for like, you know,
my inner circle. They know what time it is, they
know that bits off. You know what I'm saying. But
to the public, the way she makes it, the way
she articulates her words, and the she's so she would
make it, you would believe what the fuck she's talking about, bro,
I said, I would believe her. She's perfect at it.

(26:21):
But I'm perfect at being honest. So at the end
of the day, I knew I was gonna have to
go through a process. I knew this was gonna be
a reset process. I knew this was gonna be a
spiritual awakening. I knew this was gonna be that final
step of me becoming the man who I'm supposed to

(26:41):
be mentally, spiritually, career wise all that. I knew this
was gonna be that because I always felt like I
haven't got to my full not potential in my career,
but my potential in my as a man.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
Something you take accountability for that.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Yeah, you see what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
I felt like now like like like like holding yourself
accountable is the bit the biggest best thing you can.

Speaker 3 (27:07):
Do for yourself.

Speaker 4 (27:08):
Brother, Like I like like like like once you realize that,
you go in your back your past and be like,
damn dog, there wasn't them niggas, wasn't no fuck niggas.
I was the dumb one. I was the liability and
ask you something, to ask you something?

Speaker 5 (27:24):
So what what what part of that situation with the
whole white thing that you take accountability for?

Speaker 4 (27:36):
I have to take accountability. But see she got pregnant,
so it's not like all right, there was a time
where I could have there was a window where I
could have left it alone. But we were living together
at the time, and like I said, like she really

(27:58):
talks a good one, you know, So I felt like
I can handle this, and I should have just said no,
I'm leaving this shit alone. So that's where I hold
I don't know, you say yourself a count because you
could have got out of this as I could have
got out of.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
That after that window dog and I did you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
You think so you think you're part of that. You
did because you had to avoid in yourself. Yeah, just
in life, just avoid like this can feel that void,
that type of shit.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
That's definitely that. It was a I was on my
midlife crisis. Shit, I just turned forty two, so I
just felt like I need to settle I want to
settle down. I want to just have me a family.
Looking at other families and shit, now I look at
other ships and be like me. You know what I'm saying,

(28:48):
I'm good until God push that puts that woman in
my and he has to say give me your hand,
give me your hand. He has to put it together
like that. Other than that, I'm not even that's not even.
I don't even have that urge anymore to be chasing
holes and chasing love and all of that. Like I've
been looking for love for a long time, Like you
know what I mean, I ain't gonna lie like, but

(29:09):
I know I was always the one to fuck it up.
So I was like, all right, let me try not
being the one to fuck it up. And I told her,
I said, you you gonna be the one to fuck
it up because I'm not. I'm gonna be. You're gonna
You're gonna think this is too good to be treated
the way. The type of nigga. I'm finna be, bro,
I'm gonna be super transparent, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna predect,
I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
Provide, I'm gonna be you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Like, and I was, and she would praise me for
the things that I would do in the marriage and
shit like that, Like we would be in a situation
where you know, things ain't add up at the time,
and I would make it add up and I'll make
it happen. And then she would just be like, yo,
I don't know how, And I'm like, look, I'm telling
you anything that I like.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
This shit is too easy, man, I can make I
can make it happen.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
We just got to we just gotta trust God. We
just got to go, you know what I mean, And
we just got to stick together like this though, that's it.
We'll make it through anything. A little situation happened with
my daughter. She had was born, had a heart defect,
had to get emergency open heart surgery after she was born.
So that was something that was like it went from
joy to old boy, you know what I mean, And

(30:11):
it was like damn, but we got it through that.
We got through that. So I felt that there was
a bond there. I felt that there was a you know,
when you were in the trench with somebody and you
going through it and y'all finally come up out that bitch, brother,
it's a thing. You know what I'm saying exactly. That's
how I felt what we was right then. I was like, man,
we can't even get no closer than this right now,
because we sat here and watched our daughter with her

(30:32):
heart beating up on the outside of her chest in
her bag. Ain't nothing you could tell. You can't boy,
Ain't nothing you can say, he said, I can't share that,
Pabo else, brother exactly. So it's just like damn, my nigga,
you know. And then for her to do that that
was the ultimate betrayal. And then really not to nobody
owes me, but to not get a call from my

(30:53):
day ones was the most heartbreaking part of it all?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, you say day ones, you mean like just street
homies and street homies, a mixture of both or what
mixture of both? Man?

Speaker 3 (31:03):
You know what I'm saying. And it just was like,
damn that.

Speaker 5 (31:06):
Just thirtad moments? Is it happens for you to see
who you got? That's how it is?

Speaker 3 (31:11):
Brow like I said earlier, kind of been I look
at hor and.

Speaker 5 (31:14):
Shit like sh yep, allright, ain't I hate this hat
to be stilling through my daughter? But fucking hey, what
makes this the moment like you'll come at moment?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
What make it like? What gonna make people take you serious? Like? Nah?

Speaker 4 (31:27):
He read it his mindset, He read it just listening
to my conversation. You see what I'm saying. You know
how my old conversation used to be. I'm still I'm still,
i still got my character, but I'm I'm totally in
the whole new frame of mind. I'm I'm I'm in
a I'm in I mean, I'm the most focused I've

(31:48):
ever been at this point. You know, I just released
a single call Phases. It's talking about it's addressing this
whole situation. I got five more, four more records coming out.
That's addressing in this situation. And then EP call this
time is personal. So once you hear that this time
is personal, you'll really know like, Okay, my pen has
evolved along with my mind frame, you know what I mean.

(32:09):
And that's all I'm looking for is to get it
to get that point across and control the narrative for
the first time in two and a half years.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
When did the shift change for you? Like and what
what made the shift?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
It's like, you know how you usually wake up when
they be like fuck that, you know what I'm saying,
fin to get on my ship off and do.

Speaker 3 (32:27):
This, Like what was that MoMA for you? The day
the day, the day the case was dismissed. You gave
it a different life?

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Yeah, I said, you can't. Boy, you got to be
grateful for hearing birds. Yeah, be grateful for for for
filling wind on your skin. I wasn't in jail. I
was on house arrest. But I know, like like even
even on house arrests, like it's it's way more comfortabler

(32:57):
than being in jail, of course.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
But you still you're not in the world.

Speaker 4 (33:04):
You're not really you're watching all your friends and all
your peers just go through life and have they you
know what I mean? And then life goes on, life
goes and you have to realize that and you got
to be grateful for the time that you have with
the Like I had a real off and on relationship

(33:25):
with my mother I never told anybody about for years,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
And this right here got me like this back with us,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
So that was a good part of this journey right here,
you know, I got back with my on good terms
with my mother. I found Christ, you know, and I
did Santaria for thirteen years. Now I'm you know, I'm
into the Bible. I'm following Christ's word, Christ's word and
scriptures as best as I can. Now I'm not the

(33:55):
you know what I mean, But it's definitely I feel
the power there and and uh yeah, man, it's how
important it is.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
They have like the right people in the right team around.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
It's everything. It's everything for moral support, uh for you know,
for for for any for all support, all types all
forms of support. You have to have a good team
because you can't do it by yourself. Yeah, you you
can have you and God to do it. But you
still need God gonna send you some people around you
that you don't even know you need, He'll send them.

(34:32):
So having a team is very important, man, very important.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
I want to address this man. When I look at
and I'm just keeping the real like when I look
at Gunplay and Rick Ross, he gives me similar vibes
like Meph's bleaking jay Z or some ship like that.
Right now, we obviously know there's been some stuff in
the media and some other interview or whatever the case is. Well,
I don't know where y'all are currently. You know what

(35:03):
I'm saying, But what is it for real? Like did
y'all connect on some music shit way back or was
it on some homie shit?

Speaker 4 (35:09):
Like?

Speaker 3 (35:09):
What was it?

Speaker 2 (35:10):
And at what point do you think that you know
what I'm saying, it went that way to where you
feel like you would have to address certain things publicly,
and now he's addressing certain things publicly.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
I met Ross.

Speaker 4 (35:21):
I was fifteen years old and through a mutual friend
named Earl, he had an independent label he was doing.
I was his first startist. He met Ross, his name
was teflon Don At the time. He said, y'all would
make some great music together. I'm gonna introduce you to him.
He's like the Biggie Smalls of the South. He said cool.
First time I met him, he had on the Cuban

(35:43):
link with the onyx with the lion head.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
He had on the big he had on.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Or four bracelet, cuban bracelet with the big plate on
the top that said will above the plate with and
diamonds and ship like that is back in the day.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
He was just a cool nigga man.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
And I vibed with him man, and we was just
started doing music and we met Torch and then we
formed a group. And ten years later we got hustling,
you know what I mean, And we was uh. But
you know, I'm not going to say the split, but
the uh, the growing up partners, I guess is uh.

(36:31):
You know the usual man. When that money.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Come, man, the money come on his end.

Speaker 4 (36:37):
When the money started getting you know what I mean,
having some money, it was because look, see, there was
things that I don't I just don't talk about, you
know what I mean, because that's nobody business.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
That's his family business, you.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
Know what I mean, everything family though of course that's
your brother. You know what I mean, that's see with
that situation, I think that stems I was. I was
inconveniently transparent, overly transparent and inconveniently given inconvenient truth. That's

(37:17):
what I think. I didn't bash my dog. I wouldn't
bash my dog. And I hate that. Yeah, I hate that.
It's we have to talk to the internet type ship.
But that again, back to accountability. Let's do this. Let's
let's let's let's let's let's see what gun plays accountable

(37:38):
on this part. Let's let's see what let's see the
part be Let's see the B side of this. Y'all
got the A side just now. Now I'm gonna give.

Speaker 3 (37:46):
You the B side.

Speaker 4 (37:47):
How about the multiple elevators in these hotels that I
don't toe up being drunk and dumb. Let's talk about
let's talk about the cocaine on camera.

Speaker 3 (38:03):
In Meddiye in Columbia. Why why were gonna stop there?
Why not stop? Why not keep going?

Speaker 5 (38:10):
Why?

Speaker 3 (38:11):
What about?

Speaker 4 (38:12):
What about the super cyan jump from the fifty from
the foul line with the bottle of with a little
bottle of lean of act in a in a sprite
bottle in Houston after after I see a melee and
I jump and I WHOA, somebody finna get this bottle?
And I look and I cracked doodle across the head
and the bottle goes the rolling Jeter's grabbing me no,

(38:35):
and I'm like, give me my bottle is full of
act and I paid a lot of money for it,
and I grabbed the bottle and next thing you know,
I look up and.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
It's DJ.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
And then we're in litigation and six figure payout. How
about we talk about that that? How about it ship?
Because a nigga tried to I guess what you're saying it,
but I did a lot of bullshit for a nigga
to be like, man, this nigga trivin a nigga fucking
the whole player. But and on the other end, we're

(39:06):
on inside, we're looking at it. But to my brother,
you're supposed kind of look over that. How can I
look over that if it damaging what we're doing?

Speaker 3 (39:12):
Right? Is that what you're saying? Come on, that's real
shit right there.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Accountability shing a man could do for herself because now
you can give yourself closure, facts, and now you can
move better and importantly in fact and then not look
back and just you know, that's that's that, and that's
that so so so so there is a B side
to this.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
And I didn't get the time.

Speaker 4 (39:33):
To to do that at that moment, and and me
giving that trans that level of transparency at that moment
stemming from me having to sit down for two and
a half years and on house arrest and really not
saying I'm old support. But damn, I did commit myself

(39:57):
for thirty years to this blood. I did protect this
brand physically, shootouts in all. You see what I'm saying,
hands all that I did. It's well documented. My my my, my,
my version of Protector brand. You see what I'm saying.
So damn does that count? Does my loyalty count? There's

(40:19):
my there's my unwavering, unconditional loyalty just to this organization
count or not?

Speaker 5 (40:25):
Can I say something I hear, Yeah, this shit cant,
But I can't say something I feel like, Bro, Anything
could be fixed, anything could be reconciled if it don't
go too far for us, things we say about each other.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
We all feel how we feel as men, right.

Speaker 5 (40:41):
But if a nigga see like the ship you're saying now,
and we have a conversation I can't speak for Homan,
I can't speak for Ross like I probably never had
a conversation with't but on Big Fax. But what I'm
saying is any man like the friendship and the relationship
that y'all had in the time, y'all, if a nigga
see my boy ready, I'm ready, yeah, because that's how

(41:03):
I would be man ship play ready Now it's time
like time don't inspire niggas think time inspire like and
be done said fuck a nigga too fast or now
we're saying funk. You tell we got to stand on it.
You know what I'm saying, right, But this ship could
be like niggas see you from a fun getting ship
together whatever y'all, No, bro, ain't it's been two years
since he bust the nigga head. It's been for he

(41:25):
did since he called an allegation with bitches and beating
up whatever. This nigga ready that when that call come, Bro,
fixed this figure this out?

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Yeah, I would love that, But you get you know
what I'm saying, because it's like mine is dead old now,
you know what I'm saying. So, so if if that
was to be the situation, that would be great because
I would now be able to handle success.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, before I was, I was, I was what's that word?

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (41:53):
Dang, the word is on the tip of my tongue
one way.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
When you when you're just throwing it away, you know,
taking it take a granted, Yeah, taking it for granted,
you're just like and it's like, nah. That's that's why
I want to tell a lot of these younger artists
that's coming up, like if you got somebody giving you
an opportunity and putting you in position, you'll act like
you will never get this again. Respect it like you

(42:19):
would never get this again. Do not play with it,
you know what I mean, Not like, just don't fumble
it and just make sure your paperwork is right. And
if you see your homie and that's your brother, be
transparent on the paperwork right apart. You know what I'm saying,
Let's talk about it first and then lock it in
on paper and that's it. Also, there's no down the line,

(42:40):
there's no issues, there's no nothing. I'm getting paid and
everything's good. You see what I'm saying. But I at
the time, I didn't care. I care about a mechanical royal. Fuck,
I don't whatever. You know what I mean. I'm still
getting money every day here, but I didn't go in
and do my due diligence and going into my thing
and make sure I'm getting this and getting that. You know,
you can get money from this. You know you can

(43:01):
get back and then go and rewrite the thing. I
just signed it and just let's go. That's the homie whatever.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
I'm getting money now.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
I got money in my pocket now, and we're finna
get an advance for the Triple C album. Of course,
let's go. Let's go, let's go, you know. But I
you know, I should have did again accountability. I should
have just took my shit to a lawyer and and
really went and final went through it with a fine
tune tooth home to make sure that I would be
benefited from this work I'm putting in now in the future.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
So you're saying you should have did business. Basically, you
should have did business. At first. You was doing like
ship this is what it is, let's get it. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (43:35):
But you have to learn that as an adult, right
you know what I'm saying, because at the time, like ship, bro,
anything's better than that.

Speaker 3 (43:43):
You know what I'm saying. Come on with.

Speaker 5 (43:49):
Most niggas like your fuck, bro, whatever, let's go, then
I got let's go, bro. It happens all the time.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
It's done culture, but it ain't.

Speaker 5 (44:01):
It's like it's like, right now, you sign an artist,
you're gonna have the contract in your favor.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Regardless of whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Right it has to be. But okay, that's my lawyer's job. Okay,
I send to you every contract. Every contract has room
for negotiation. That's when you gotta negotiate. But niggas be
so desperate and fucked up coming from nothing. Nigga don't
want you to change your mind. So I don't want
to make it ship difficult. This ship is niggas sit

(44:30):
that countryt side.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
I still be doing that ship as a grown man.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Give it like I don't even really care about about
really putting no sitting, no bottle on this table. Whatever
that ship, say side side that ship, how long sign it.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
About it?

Speaker 5 (44:48):
Cause they gonna see the money the wind spring because
I ain't count that.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
You know that that I didn't have it before.

Speaker 5 (44:59):
So but you knowing if when that's another part of accountability,
You knowing you've been in that mindset back then or not.

Speaker 3 (45:05):
You per se anybody me right now?

Speaker 5 (45:07):
If I got damn do a deal with goddamn pepsis
and I drank a pepsi on motherfucking big fat, but
I took a hundred thousand, the folks make a hundred million.

Speaker 3 (45:15):
I can't be mad at that because I need that hundle.
I won't even think about No.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
I don't care about no what else get that's your money,
that's your that's your I just need mind that her.

Speaker 5 (45:25):
Ship go left with ne go thinking like what I
could have made damn it, I ain't know that y'all
using my image, likeness and guidness and now this, hey,
ain't nobody you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (45:35):
That how that ship go with these.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
Two and a half years. That's when I sat down
and I really look. That's when I look through my contracts. Yeah,
I'm looking to see is that any money over here hiding?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
There? Is there any money over here?

Speaker 4 (45:50):
Forgot about why had the lord? Because my my body
is my business. My physical frame is what picks up
the front in in the back end of these fucking money.
So now that I cannot go do these things under
no circumstances. And I realized, I'm like, Damn, I didn't

(46:11):
start a business. I could have had a business going
right now been and would have not cared about this case.
I would have been did this and paid the lawyer off, and.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
But I didn't.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Damn.

Speaker 4 (46:23):
Now, when I started looking at all my shortcomings as
far as business my career, I did what I was
supposed to do with my career musically, Bro, you know
what I'm saying, I am who I am.

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Brother.

Speaker 4 (46:35):
You know, I did do big records. I made hit records,
you know if it is what it is. But but
on that music tip, I came from nothing. I toured
the world, you know what I mean. I took my
own opportunity, my opportunity that was given to me, and
I ran with it. I did reality TV. I could
call that the graveyard of rap. But y'all perspective on

(46:57):
things is totally different from mine. So you know what
I'm saying. I got I got a lot of money
doing that ship. And you know what I mean, it
was it was it was. It was expanding my portfolio.

Speaker 3 (47:08):
You know what I mean. I'm gonna get into acting
after I after I fix these these these jibs.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
You know what I'm saying. Then I'm finna get into acting.
I'm finna do all of that, you know. But I
had to get this behind me. I had to go
through this to refine me.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
I had to.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I had to see who's in my corner. So when
I do get my this next level of success, which
is going to happen, it's inevitable because God don't work
like that. You're not gonna just take everything from me.
Throw me in the fire. You know what I'm saying,
and then just have me now, don't he Lets you
learn your lesson so you can know what to do it, dude, Yeah,
because you know what.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
You're capable of. Alady, I already showed you that you
just took advantage of you, did you? You want to
fuck fuck bitch, fuck up your money? You want to
do that in that time? You want to pip holes?
You want to do that? Bro, you want to be
you won't need it? Yeah at that time, you know better.
If you do it again, that's its own.

Speaker 3 (47:57):
It's on you, brother, that's on you that this time
it's all on me, dog.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Yeah, And I feel prepared for it now. Before I
didn't even know I had to prepare for anything. I'm
just like, oh, I've worked for ten years without getting
a dollar.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Now we're all on top.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
This is how it's supposed to be here for no server.

Speaker 3 (48:17):
You have to keep working, keep working.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
But it was such a massive hit of success that
it blinded me that there still has to be work done.
I put into work. I started making a name for myself,
doing my own mixtapes, my album, making a name for Gunplay.
But Gunplay was still Gunplay though he was doing the work.

(48:40):
But you still you have to do the work inside too.
That was just outside work. You're not doing no inside work.
You actually polluting your shit even more.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Your brain is rotting.

Speaker 4 (48:51):
Brother, you keep drinking, smoking, snorting this and that, popping, popping, fucking.

Speaker 3 (48:58):
Everything is just fucking yeah, rockstars. It's like when are
we gonna stop?

Speaker 5 (49:03):
Dog?

Speaker 3 (49:03):
So it's like, all right, dog.

Speaker 4 (49:04):
After a while, I start getting alright, I'm kind of
tired of I don't I barely drink. Now I'll have
a modello or something, and you know what I mean,
call it a day.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
So full circle, probably in a weird way, because God
works a mysterious ways. You say that situation in the
house arrest probably was the best.

Speaker 4 (49:23):
Thing to not in a weird way, not in a
covert way, and the best way.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
Did full circle moment, full circle moment.

Speaker 4 (49:33):
I needed that because you when you, when you sitting there,
and and and and even listen, I suggest I suggest
either you either you give your money your way and
start over from scratch with nothing. I don't even have
contacts in my fucking phone. There's no contacts in here.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
Dog. I got your number, and I had to work
for that shit.

Speaker 4 (49:57):
But I could go scroll one time and that's it
because she changed my iCloud password.

Speaker 3 (50:02):
I have no contact all of that. So this when
I say starting from scratch, this is scratched.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
My whole new team, whole new well now, no new friends,
just everybody just left. So I have like my core
Savage though for y'all connected, and we just got into
it before I should have got into uh before we
even started the podcast. To let y'all know, my dog,

(50:28):
baby Savage is the god of grind. Okay, let me
tell you something about baby Savage. When I beat the case,
I said I have no contacts in my phone. I
was on TikTok live. He hit me, Hey, what's up
gunna play.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
I'm like, I know him. I remember him, that niggas
a hustler.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
When I he used to book me and we used
to do a bunch of multiple shows. I said, you
know what, I forgot him, right yeah, let me holler
at Doll Man. He hollered at me, said, man, what's
up what you're doing? I said, I gotta get back outside.
I gotta touch the turf, bro, I gotta get back outside, man.
And I said, doll in a major way, brother, And
he put together these these interviews and these and these

(51:17):
shows and these listening parties and just and we got
a tour going on even in the snowball into some
big ship now. So you know what I mean. I
want to shout out to Baby Savage on Instagram is
at Baby Savage, God of Grind, and it's in my
booking and my butt and my bio. You could get
his phone number for booking. That's my manager, slash booking agent, manager,

(51:39):
whatever you want to call him. He's the homie that's
handling all my shit. So shout out to him, man,
and salute to him.

Speaker 5 (51:46):
What city you think you get the most love from
or you're gonna get the most love from I get.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
I ain't gonna lie to all New York bro. I
get a lot of love in New York man. I
got some real, real love in New York City.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
Man.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Shout out to the big appin because because they because
they because of my bars. I think so because I
lived there till I was ten. I lived there from
three years old to ten years old and moved to Miami.
So I have My foundation is hip hop. It's rap,
you know what I mean. It's bars, it's lyrics. The

(52:23):
down South gave me the sauce, you know what I mean.
So I just mixed the sauce with the lyrics, and
you get a gun play, you know what I'm saying.
So the North they recognize that they can hear the
New York. They can hear the accidents sometimes come out.
They can hear the delivery, the bars, so they gravitate
towards me and and and I'm.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
An outside nigga, and I fight, and I'm on that.
I'm on that New York you know, the New York nigga.
They on that. You say, what's the name of the
project you driving? This time is personal? What kind of
sound and what kind of energies, Bible want to Dash
and five Bible one of that.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
That's a song he got called That's my Favorite Gun.

Speaker 3 (53:01):
Yeah, there's a song I had called Bible want to
Dash that everybody.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
I wrote that song and put it out when I
was on the run for arm robbery and a saw
with a deadly weapon and I was like, fuck, I'm
going to jail for a long time. Dog. And I
held that beat for a year and a half just
listening to the beat because I didn't want to disrespect
it with just rapping on it.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
I wanted to put soul on it. I wanted to
put back against the wall. This is it on there.

Speaker 4 (53:25):
And that's what I did, and that that's why that
record did what it did. It did what it did
to this day. Rolling sound No, no, no, no, no,
what's funny you see you see Rolling came first, and
then Bible Want a Dash. This time I'm doing the
Bible on a Dash and then my next project, we're
going back to rolling.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
Wow. This project was pain music right here.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
A lot of it's just five pain music records that
speaks on everything that happened that that that that shows
my pen has evolved into a different fucking monster number one.
Then after that, I'm going back in the club. I'm
gonna I'm gonna be back loving life for that's that.
I don't love life, but living life. You know what
I'm saying, Living life again, but responsible this time. No

(54:11):
gunplay or Don Logan.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Hey, let me ask you something say earlier, what part
do you think your name play into just bringing like
negative energy?

Speaker 4 (54:21):
And you know what, that's funny you say that because
recently I've been since I'm so aware spiritually, I'm so
tapped in that is like damn dog every time gunplay, gunplay, gunplay, gunplay.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Don't you think you know what I'm saying? You might
need to.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
That's why I go with Don Logan. That's why I've
been branded Don Logan for years. That just don't even
sound like a nigga. Spend no money with no nigga
name the gun play.

Speaker 5 (54:50):
Now back in that day, I'm saying, which like if
I was, if I was at Coca Cola or somewhere
and they called me like, hey, we got to got gunplay.
He's really telling me like, I ain't gonna go check.
You might be the hardest bigging the one I ain't
even gonna check.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
That's real. That's that's if it comes. Oh no, where
it come with gunplay?

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Right right?

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Exactly? I gonna get his money the gunplay and there's
some gunplay, I lose my job.

Speaker 3 (55:24):
That's real, dog, that's real, brother, you know what I mean.
That's why I've been. I've been. I've been branding that
Don Logan. So I don't know. Is this the way? Hold?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Let me find out.

Speaker 3 (55:35):
Is this the day that we changed our name? Is
this the day on Big Factors? We changed the name
today on Big Fat Us, that bro.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
It's gonna change the Instagram and everything. Give us that
I'm gonna have to all right, Oh so that's it.
Give us that gunplay is over with. It's now Don Logan.
So when you call me out in the streets, I'm
just gonna be like gunplay and.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
We're still don't put gunplay on the ends.

Speaker 3 (56:02):
It's always gonna be gonna play. But I'm now Don Logan,
real ship.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
This ship wide open for a nigga come with because
you you you're different. Yeah yeah, exactly, that chapter done.
Crazy man, that car we wrecked that car now and
I was trying to jump into some ship.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
That drive itself.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
Yes, yeah, were living in the soft levels even got levels.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
He who you're listening to right now? Uh? Well, I'm
a big E. S. T. Fan? Uh I you I
love for the next two times, bro, I love music together.
I would love to that nigga. Yeah, that's why I'm

(56:47):
going crazy. E.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
S T for next yack of course, I'm I'm boy,
I'm on yack trail boy, I'm gona getty, I'm again.
We was on FaceTime the other day till we come
to the studio where he was just even booby trapping.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
So I was like, Okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Like talking to a young you almost I.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Swear to God.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Or if I could ever sit down with him, I'm
gonna say, dog, this whole time, I've been living vicariously
through you do not stop.

Speaker 3 (57:16):
Just just do what you do. Have fun. That's what
you're doing.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
That's what if I would have been, if if the
success would that that that amount of success would have
came to me at that time in my life. Back then,
I don't think I would have been in a Kodak situation.
I would have been in a grim situation. I would
have been fucked up, you know what I mean. I
would have had a little bit too much fun, and
it would have been it wouldn't have end well, I
already know you know what I mean. Uh, but he's

(57:44):
a very blessed person for what he's been going through.
And because you could tell people like that are anointed,
that they good that people, they have good hearts. It's
just it's it's just a thing, man, you know what
I mean. But I really want to get Yak on
the Bible on the dash remix, just for a culture shock.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Yo, Yackington, what's up? I'm gonna see him. I'll be
at the studio and ship now and then. So I'm
a capture.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Been talked to us about Atlanta. Man, you know what
I'm saying. What does Atlanta mean? The gun play man?

Speaker 3 (58:16):
Atlanta?

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Sorry, don logan, Atlanta means Atlanta is like, that's that's family,
Atlanta's is familiar, Atlanta's home, second home. Atlanta is you
could just drop me anywhere I make a phone call.
I'm all right, you know what I mean. Atlanta's history,

(58:39):
musical history, Atlanta got Atlanta's is uh Mecca South Mecca
for hip hop.

Speaker 3 (58:47):
You know what I mean? For rap man?

Speaker 2 (58:48):
Uh what's your best maybe worse memory, worse, Well, let's
not do too many. Worse, not worse, but okay. Some
people might say they went into magic in you know
when they left magic, it was they depleted it something
like that. Interesting memories.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
Well I was, I mean, I was on the run here.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
That ain't a good memory done, but it was great
because they didn't fight.

Speaker 3 (59:18):
Oh hit me, great man.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
You think the game easier, the rap game easier? These
days are harder.

Speaker 4 (59:28):
Way easier, bro, this is black. Back in the day,
we had the towers. Remember the towers. You had to
have five, six, seven, eight, ten towers, burning CDs, putting
them in the thing, putting them in the bag, going
out to the to the people handing them out or
selling them, or.

Speaker 3 (59:44):
You had to do a lot of physical fucking work.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
Man.

Speaker 3 (59:46):
But now you just.

Speaker 4 (59:49):
Pop boom. That ship is everywhere you do a podcast,
you talk some ship.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
On there go viral boom bam bam, wam bam. That's it.

Speaker 4 (59:57):
You're done, you know what I mean. But uh, it's
my a wave right now. But if you still the
old formula still stands. The old formula still stands. Consistency,
Consistency consistency.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
So that's all it is. You know what I mean,
how you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Feel about like creating content to make sure people are
well the music, you know, like how people do content
creating them Yeah, I think it's pretty dope.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
It's it's as long as they're open up different hip
hop is opening up different facets of of.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
Income. You know what I'm saying, different lines of income.

Speaker 4 (01:00:31):
Now, you got content income, you got podcast income, you
got music income, you got this, you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
So I'm going to get into the content thing too.
I'm going to get into the podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
You nigga, you had a podcast with full podcasts part
Fish and Ship exactly. I'm full podcast fact.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
I was out there in Lake Lanier one, Okay, I
pulled up about fifteen bass strip bass out that bitch. Yeah,
Like I didn't know it was. I didn't know the
story behind it. Back then, I jumped in the water
and everything damas ghosts with a ground nigga. But they
would have been like, nah, here a real nigga. Let
that nigga he solid.

Speaker 5 (01:01:13):
Hey before get out of here. What's the legacy of
gunplay and what do you want the legacy of done
to be?

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
That's a good Uh, I want you. My legacy would
have to be just don't take I love it man.
My legacy gunplay first, what is his leg We just
we just went ahead and.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
Made it out.

Speaker 4 (01:01:40):
He made it out the fire resilient and brilliant. That's gunplay,
resilient and brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Like that, like Don Logan is gonna leave the lasting
impression of you can.

Speaker 4 (01:01:52):
Do it too, real ship, you can do it. You
can you can turn your ship around. I am living
fucking proof that that God is a true and living god.
I'm living proof consistency works. I'm living proof faith unwaivered.
Faith is key. I'm proof.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Man, the first time they let me in the Breakfast club,
you know, I said, one of my favorite rappers is
gun Play. You know what I'm saying. So salute to you,
Salute to you. Keep going, keep going, you know what
I'm saying. And we here man, one call.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
That's all I love that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
I gotta say before I get out of here, Bro,
I really respect that you came with the B side.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I respect that. I
appreciate that dog, and it's all it was done. I've
been did that. I just now for the first time,
said that, and you know what.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
I mean, he said, though, that's a man Yeah, keep
it a break.

Speaker 3 (01:02:46):
That's a man ship.

Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
Like kids ain't gonna do that. People want to keep
keep up bullsh okay.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Cool.

Speaker 5 (01:02:52):
I feel the way about certain things that you've done.
I know you can feel the way about it. I've
done too, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I just want
to salute my brother one more time.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
I love him.

Speaker 4 (01:03:04):
You know, maybe one day we'll smoke a joint and
get on the Gram and talk shit, you know what
I'm saying together and just be there.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
But yeah, dog, I appreciate you'all having me, and I'll
finally be able to fucking control the narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
Man, you know what I mean, and speak and tell
y'all I did not do it.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
He just saw my polygraph test like, I don't play
that ship, bro when it kind of babies and ship
like that, bro, Like I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:26):
Love my little girl, man, you know what I mean.
Tell yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:03:37):
And if you look in the book gun Play, don logan,
no slogan, hit my my my Instagram at not gunplay
again in my bio, you'll see his phone number at
baby Savage, God of Grind.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
You know what I mean, hit him up his.

Speaker 4 (01:03:54):
Phone numbers and what's the phone number so we can
tell him right now. Trap it one eight five folks
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Home conversation, Nigga Nigga grind.

Speaker 3 (01:04:14):
Yeah yeah, and I need and I need and I need.

Speaker 4 (01:04:19):
I'm looking to partner with the Veneer company, you know
what I mean, to get these jibs right, so we
could do some Doctor Day one to turn the niggas up.
Doctor Dave, Doctor David Atlanta, got the Dave.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
Yeah, oh the one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
Yeah here, folks, I put you on line with okay, yeah,
let's do that because you know it's time. It's time
Don Logan. Once I get the jibs, Don Logan has emerged, Yeah,
make it different man. He just turned up Little bro Rilla.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Yeah, yeah.

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