BIG FACTS feat. Kountry Wayne

The Black Effect Presents... Big Facts!

Ahead of the release of his comedy special Nostalgia, Kountry Wayne joins Big Bank and DJ Scream on Big Facts for a powerful and motivational convo. He breaks down his humble beginnings, his disciplined approach to business, his biggest vice, and how he’s built a multi-million-dollar brand through consistency and authenticity. Wayne also drops gems for up-and-coming comedians and content creators looking to turn creativity into real ownership.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Big Bank, DJ Scream bring you Big Facts podcast in the.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Street a lot for Revolse Studios. It's time for Big Facts,
Big Bank.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
What up?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
DJ Scream, I'm here Country Wayne is back on Big
Facts today and it's feeling bigger.

Speaker 3 (00:19):
Hey Man.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Added a couple more zeros to that bank account since
last time when you pulled up on.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
Us, right you did you? Hey Man? You know? Yeah, Yeah,
I'm blessed. Yeah, I'm definitely blessed. It been. It's different
since then, for sure.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
Yeah for show for so for sure? Man? What uh Man?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
You know from from top to bottom? Like where you
are currently? I know that you're never just like content
and happy and I'm done working. You still want to
work and accomplish a lot more. But where you currently
you feel like on your journey.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
I'm currently in that space where you you know, it's
at that point in overturn. You know what I'm saying.
I make that space when you finally hit the level
like I ain't going back. You know what I'm saying.
God had taken me out. It's like the only thing
is gonna take me out now if God come through
in health life strate just like you know, I feel
like you know, I see I see the moon now

(01:11):
like I feel like I feel like I got the
wings flapping the show.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Who do you think most proud of you?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Out of everybody in your circle, your family, your dogs,
every day, like you think, most proud of what you're thinking?

Speaker 4 (01:20):
The most proud probably my kids, Yeah, because they you
know what I'm saying, they uh, they seeing it from
a clear eye view. You know, my family is still
see it from We come from poverty, so poverty getting
your way a little bit of your vision because you
still got your ambitious But the kids like, holdo, we
seen them here telling them like Hollo were in the project.
You know what I'm saying. Two thousand and eight now

(01:42):
now you know twenty ten, they still in probably still
in probably two thousand ten, eleven twelve. So it's like
my kids, my two oldest sons and my children. Man Like,
even when I did my special, my daughter, Mylissle cried.
So it's like, yo, they're more proud of me than anybody.
Everybody else trying to see what they can get, to

(02:02):
see what they can get everybody, everybody pull up. I
understand them, though, I you know, hey man, everybody scratched
everything out they list, so what you.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Do with them? Cash up requested themselves requests what you
do with them?

Speaker 4 (02:15):
And most of them and I ain't gonna lie. I
just see them, Okay, I just see them at the
end of the day.

Speaker 5 (02:23):
Hey, let me ask you something. How you what kind
of what kind of energy you get from your hometown?

Speaker 4 (02:28):
Oh, my own time, it's like unbelievable, uh, like the
unbelievable energy. But it ain't that. It's like I ain't
really connected down there like that, no more all the way.
But it's like because I'm from a real small town,
so it's like three thousand people, they ain't really know different.

(02:48):
I always looked at y'all like, well, y'all got it good,
because you know what I'm saying, y'all, it was so big.
But in them hometowns, I get love. But I was
already if it don't feel no different than them because
I was already kind of famous, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
for I Pop. It's like it's like in Trouble when
Trouble who Trouble was to Atlanta. Yah, that's why I
was my home time. So it was like they already

(03:09):
felt it and it was just like it's been a
long run.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
You never felt like I blew up with them because
it was just it's just kind of bed like this.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
You've always been popular. You always been that dude.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yeah, I took they faced so my uncle and daddy
them with popular in the street. They wore they were popular,
dope board with the car, the notties, you know what
I'm saying. So I just cantached them, and it always
they never felt it ain't nothing happened because I ain't
still ain't been in no big movie or nothing, like
I'm still everybody like they think them in movies, but
I ain't never been to nothing. I did a deffinite specially.

Speaker 5 (03:43):
When you're big.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Yeah, but it's it's the big the way that you
know they can see that for you already, like yeah,
it ain't nothing. Somebody surprise you know. They said shot, Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
I get you say yeah, you know you big.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
When it's like I'm talking about my oldest of aunties
and uncles and uncles and aunties be on Country Wayne.
I mean it's like they soap opera. They don't miss it.
They be on Facebook Country Wayne.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
Country Wyncause I love them too. I love him on.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Yeah, they love you.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
I love them. That crowd, man, that's the crowd I
always wanted you targeted. Yes, I went after him because
I knew nobody wasn't going after me. Because I was
like the other crowd. Everybody had to share them because
I thought about it as a comedian, the other crowd.
You never gonna really grab them because they rock with music.
So if I'm in the town and I got that crowd,

(04:36):
but Little Baby and Future come through, that show ain't
selling out. Yeah, but the ants you have to be Frank,
Beverly and Maid. Yeah. They a few people. Yeah, you know,
so I always wanted that crowd. It makes it. I
always wanted that crowd. I knew nobody wasn't aiming at them,
so I was like, all right, I'm gonna get that crowd.
Then whatever I do with the crowd, that's my spending money.

(04:57):
Because they switch out on you. It's crowd right here.
You got a career.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, you say, like the popular crowd that the motherfuckers
chasing the every day ship.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
They switch out on you.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
While you don't. They chasing life. I learned that when
I was in the project. You know what I'm saying
she was his wife too. But they every rapper they
used to get hot, they used to switch out on them.
They're like, they won't want one month, they don't where's
car legal? And I remember when while they came out.
Then I'm like, I'm like hold on every three months
and somebody else. I'm like, I don't never want their crowd,

(05:31):
Like I don't never want because you can't hold them.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
So you don't think they're like true fans. What are
they like if they because fans are supposed to be fanatics,
they with you good.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
They fans of the consumers, so they fans of whatever
that is. So you got it's like a gumbo pot
versus like you know, you might go and need a
baker guy fans. Mayor j Blige got fan. I'm I'm
a Mary j Blige and Monica them fans. I'm I
don't care who.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Some rappers like Jesus got fans, got fans, they.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Got fan but when they switched when the Internet came.
You know, Jesus and t I was still hot before
the Internet came. Everybody who caught their error, Yeah, they
got fans. You jumped into this new game. You try
the internet they fans of the culture. It's like whatever
it is, the hot the hot space. That's why jay
Z made that song, Like, man, he was talking about
you cheating on me, but he was about fame. He

(06:23):
was wrapping my faint. Sometimes you would drakes sometimes you
because it's like it's that I picked that up early
because I used to study people when I was in
the streets. I was always study My mama used to
move like that. Whatever dope boy were hot, her friends
and they hot.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
Yeah, I'm like, man, I I know how I go, Hey,
I see bro I see it. Yeah. Man, It's like
when Booster. When Booster got out of jail, I knew
something RAF was gonna fall off. I was like the
streets when Boosy was locked up, Like God, it was
you know what I'm saying, God ain't fall off, but like.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
You book got it them towns booking God, it was
like got.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
It Boosy, right, Gucci, you know what I'm saying. When
certain people getting locked up, this person go up. It's
like that in the street. If it's three dope boys
at the time, I know, if you go to jail,
I'm selling a few more thens. Yeah, I know. I'm
selling a few more of the oss so because it

(07:28):
was like, you know, so, I feel like that part
of the game is like that, and I think that's
why nobody in that game you like, you be like
and rap you can't go rap it so big. You
got white fans too. But in the coming the game,
when you get stuck in that, you can't really get
the money because you don't know you're fighting with the
economy at the point. It ain't even them, It's an ecosystem.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Do you think the consumers? God, damn, they entertained about
you falling off too. They entertained about you falling off, like, oh,
they can't be predicting it for.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Addicting it like they do me like on Instagram, like yo, wa,
ain't gonna fuck fell off? They always think I don't
fell off on my own post. I was like, y'all,
that's one opening they thought. When I stopped doing drill,
what happened with them? I gave on drill because I
knew that. So when I gave on drip, they was
excited because He's like he finally feeding us, cause everybody
seen me like, but way ain't gonna give us no content.

(08:20):
He always came to the aunt ta you know, but
when I did drill, they'd be like, yo, yo dad.
When I stopped doing drill, yeah, you're gonna fall off dead.
I posted something like a couple months ago. They like, yo, way,
ain't gonna fell off he see he need Instagram cause
they culture think you need. I'm like, your aunt tie
done got some money. You asking your auntie for money.
I'm like, bro, if I had to choose, I love everybody,

(08:41):
but I'm choosing your aunt Tea and your uncle Dell.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
They gonna engage.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're gonna engage, but till somebody. They gonna tell somebody,
somebody else who got money and they ain't trying to
be famous? Yeah they and then they happy. Man, they
get seventy thousand dollars a year, man, no folk would
be happy. And somebody with seven me they have a cookout,
some spade. They ain't trying to be famous. They know
how they enjoy life. Not everybody trying to be famous.
So it's like, ain't no true fans. Because if the

(09:07):
joker got ten thousand follow us, you can't tell him
me ain't famous in his hood. So it's like they
really not. It ain't the fans like it used to be.
Like when I was a fan of t I back
in the day, it was a different game. It's like,
you know, so I that Internet is just different now, man.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
How you skip over the antics of the of the
of the whole shit entertainment being.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Man, just understanding that it's just like it was in
the streets. So everybody who from the streets kind of
understand the game. I think everybody who really really front
the streets for real and not on the streets was
in it really to risk out there, You're gonna understand
that it's the same thing that it always has been.
The Internet just a big version of it. So I'd

(09:50):
be like, Nah, that ain't gonna work. I ain't finna
keep doing that because I'm gonna fall off. That's why
I stopped doing drill, because I'm like, he eventually gone
visually fall Also I left while he was up, you know,
like stopping bile your head, Like you just just repetitvenessness
of seeing stuff in your past and use the knowledge
forward to see it in your future.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
What about like all the negative shiit like being in
the blouse for bullshit?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Like because you skip over.

Speaker 5 (10:16):
All that how you how you remain out of that loop?

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Man, I don't really my own advice ever been women.
So it's like everything else I don't really stay in.
But the nigga stuff they try to put out there
about me with women and stuff, I ain't gonna lie.
I don't care. I ain't gonna lie if it ain't
infecting my money. I don't really care, Like I never I.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
Don't care, So you don't care to respond to nothing
like hey.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
I don't never respond. They will never get a response.
They will never get a response out of me because
I'm like, if this is finna makes sense with some money,
you know what I'm saying, or you know I respond
to certain people if they come at my money because
you talk about my craft and what I do and
how I do it. Like that's why you don't never
even see me that I don't even I don't even

(11:04):
never talk about no black person for real, because I'm like,
at the end of the day, long people get money
and dan abusing and what his name. I don't play
with people money like that because like sometimes even when
sports casts be going too hard, like man, let buddy
get his money. Yeah, I'm like we should have a cold.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
I'm like at the end of the day, because it
can affect the mental and have them off the game.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Mental, and it might affect how a person look at them. Yeah,
so you got spending the money. Yeah, who's spending the money?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Who?

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Who? You know what I mean? Like, I was mad
at Dak Prescott, but I ain't say nothing to you
got the country. I still ain't saying nothing. I wanted
but to get his country, even though I couldn't affect
him not getting this contract. I'm like, hold up, man,
you got lit. I don't really get in that because
you know that jont kind of that's kind of dangerous,
a little bit that's trying to say the wrong thing
about somebody. Then in the streets you kind of know

(11:54):
who in your time, Like, man, I don't know who
these people who? These people got out of here. Man,
So I'll be like like, nah, I don't really, I
don't care about it. Man, ain't nothing on internet comments
and nothing never bothered me.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
You gotta be made of steal for this ship.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
Oh you got to case. The comments is controlling. The
comments are controlling the world. And everybody that like they
don't care but don't comments. It's controlling when people see
one bad comment, but they'll get that energy. Now out
of out one hundred comments, one bad one. Now these
these these not in no other ones. That was good.

(12:29):
You ain't re sparling to them. But it's like, I'm grateful.
I'm grateful for what the good they come with it,
and they ain't got to go to prison. So long
as I ain't facing that no more, I'd be like,
that's good man.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
How important is it stay on top of your businesses?
You be on top of your business.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
I feel like you stay on you off top of
your business more than your art, because if your business
ain't in order, you can't be you can't be the
artist you want to be. Me and t I was
just talking about it. I say, t I, if a
lot of rappers business ain't right, I know why y'all
start rapping because when you look at that deal and
realize how much money they done made out that song

(13:07):
and you ain't made nohing, you're not gonna be able
to rap the same because basically, you got raped. So
you're traumatized, whether you know it or not. If you
go to a therapist, I better therapists and tell them
that because if I'm in a business and I do it.
If I do some content and I know that they're
making this much money and I ain't making none of it,

(13:28):
I'm not gonna post no more because it's like I
don't even want you to make money now because I'm traumatized.
So I think business. When your business right, then you're
a better artist because because at first you don't know.
At first, you just happy to be an artist. Then
they give you that shoulder. Well, they tricked us with
with show money, because once you book good before a show,

(13:49):
you know, we ain't never had nothing. So you get
fitted a hunter. You're like, but if this was big
enough for you to go and do a show, imagine
how much the source it's making. But they do that
show money at us because they like they're not gonna
pay attention. But then you start hearing, you're like, hold up, man,
when you find out what this really made, you like,

(14:10):
hold this one song made more than I made my career.
Ain't no way I'll be able to be a artist.
It's like they were in the street right, like one time,
at one time, my daddy, you know what I'm saying,
we're doing doing We find out he got locked up
with the dude. We were shopping with it, you know
what I'm saying, and we found out what he were
really getting them for for real, and the middle man

(14:31):
was tearing our head off. I was out the streets
and I was still hurt because I'm out here, like God, damn,
you know what I'm saying. I'm out here supposed to
be paying eight hundred peace and I'm paying a thousand
feet The dude was selling for the dude in the
middle of my daddy trust who ain't had no money?
That dude who always know somebody who this dude? They

(14:55):
have nothing, but my daddy just likeing to smoke with him.
He's his partner. Find out when you went to locked
up this dude, And it hurt me then and I
was done to imagine if I'm doing something and you
find out that, hey man, look this has made this,
I ain't getting nothing. So how do I supposed to

(15:16):
go to the studio a rap unless I rap about that?
You're right, and I can't rap about that because now
I don't told my fans I'm a boss. I'm a boss,
so nobody never want to talk about it. It's like
they're traumatized real and I think I think before anybody
start any business, any artists, they do not start that
before you learn the business, because the day your business,

(15:37):
you're going to get better and you're gonna start taking
it out on your fans yourself. And nobody's telling them
that because when your business right, you are a good artist.
It's hard to miss because you're so happy. You get
that beginning feeling because you're like, oh.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Man, you just said some ship.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Then real talk.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Your being there ain't right.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
You can't be right, be right because you knowing you
you doneking for free.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
You feel like for free, you know it. You don't
even want to. You don't even want to. He still
got money. So it's like people like, man, he better
be grateful. What you got to Listen here, man, I'm
telling you that's what I've seen the soul of people.
My favorite artist. I'm watching them and I paid attention.
I told me and to just talking. I say, bro,
that's would it be? They at first they rappid for fun,

(16:21):
then they blow up. I'm like, why they stop? You
know what I'm saying. You start hearing the artists by
I'm like, dang, that's what happened to all the artists
back in the day, you know what I'm saying. And
then they wanted while Kanye crazy. When Kanye went crazy,
I'm like, when you see them deals and know what
you mean? Man, he just the one real enough. He
acted out like a bad child, like man, hey man, yep,

(16:44):
hey man, hold upon yep.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Do y'all know how much we making? That's what he's saying.
Do y'all know how much we really worth?

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Now?

Speaker 4 (16:54):
They don't know what I bet.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
That the game.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
That's the game in any business. Somebody gotta make more
than somebody off.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Ain't got to be that much.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
You got people signing your network, they make I'm sure
you take good care of.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
I share them with them. That's how good I pay him.
Think about this, right, if I got somebody on Facebook,
right and they work with me because I don't ever
say for me, and I'm paying them a million dollars
a year, And how is somebody on a network can't
pay their people that I'm not making nowhere near what

(17:33):
they making. But I was looking at what made me
do I'm like, because they people come on my platform
for free because they want to be famous, I could
have really charged people to be on there. I was
making some more money. I got to share this like
it's hard in your heart, right, man, you can't do that.
It be too much. I was like, man, he bro, Mike,

(17:55):
I ain't gonna lie. He was like, no, Bro, I'm
happy to not trust me. Man, take this man, cause
I'm I'm all right. You feel what I'm saying. I
make mine, but I think but that's why they're so
happy they do. They do miracles. They be like, hey man,
I'm finna go shoot this. And my boy Bridge when
it shot something in Montana Cargo heat he got there,
old block. But when you're getting paid right, you become

(18:18):
a different They messed up the business not paying people right.
If you pay a right, imagine what the game energy.

Speaker 5 (18:26):
They're gonna have the.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Energy gonna because now they're gonna find a way to
get get get from you. They're gonna find a way
to get it back some kind of some kind of
way or their mindset. You don't want nobody thinking about
how to get you back. So yeah, they make it.
They are man's money out there, man, because you know
I ain't doing that. But I ain't doing nothing but content.
But it's networks. You go on any networks, but you

(18:49):
got to know. You got to kind of know to
know what to ask for too. Like I ain't scared
to ask. I ask that business because once you know
the business, and then if you do know, they don't
want you talk.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
Most niggas just just just want more than what they
got already until they found out they could have got mold.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
That's when they be upset.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Like you gotta think nigga fucked up coming out the
streets and coming out the hood. They gonna agree to
anything to get their chance. Yeah, and then you're gonna
be upset once or broke. He ain't gotta be coming
out street. The nigga just been broke. He could have
been a college student. But you broke, you finna get
in the game. And you you know in indeed, people
can put you in the game. You all right, y'all
for give me a shot. They really thinking that people
doing them a favor. But they got the talent. You
get what I'm saying. That's how it beat that be

(19:31):
the mindset from a broke standpoint. Once you start making
that money, you like you say, you go back and
see your contract and your lawyer and all these people
start telling you, Hey, they God damn that ship.

Speaker 4 (19:41):
Do take somebody cry. I was like, oh lord Jesus,
I'm the type of person I just I quit too. Man,
you gotta fit this out. I can't. I can't do that.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
So you did you? Did you get a lawyer for me? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Not at first. I just had. I was just I
just had. I ain't gonna lie, man. I went to
school in the streets where it just certain stuff just
don't make sense. Like they came to me with a
deal one time. You know what I'm saying. It was
like they were like eight million guaranteed every year eighty
percent of what I make. I wasn't even I was

(20:18):
only making around that time, like six. I was like,
that ain't gonna get me more than one. So Mike
was like, bro, take that. What Mike and Bread were like, man,
take it man, because they were scared they're gonna stop me.
I say, bro, if they offering me that, it's something,
they gonna it's something' gonna see why they offered me.
I sit back, I'm like, nah, I'm straight. I answered

(20:39):
something ignorant because I'm like I'm in see you know
what I'm saying like, now I'm straight, man.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
Said, why they offer me that? Why they they ain't
looking at myself, looking.

Speaker 4 (20:48):
At why do you offer me that? So I didn't
take the deal, and thank god I didn't. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying, because they were fineilshed well, well man,
now they Oh lord, they would have been turning my
head off. Then I wouldn't want to post.

Speaker 5 (20:59):
It's about even being by being.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
In my being dere fini right now. Oh my god,
they would have been. They would have been getting so
much free money that I wouldn't be able to share it.
Then I have to cut the people because they in
it too much. You feel what I'm saying. So it's
like the business man. You just got the man because
if not, I'm telling you, man, it misses, it misses

(21:22):
other art. Imagine being like, imagine being in the studio
and you just found out your song made not a
million dollars and you only got a million of that,
and they and your fans telling you to make your
best song.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
It might be a little different in music because you
got somebody gotta spend money on you.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
I ain't saying you right about.

Speaker 4 (21:44):
It, No, I understand that. But at the same time,
it's like it's like when you understand what content make,
not just music. You feel what I'm saying. Everything you know,
music is the exemple that the culture understand because we
all tried in some shape form of fashion. So I
use that subject. But it's in everything, the understanding what

(22:04):
the give to give God gave you really worth no,
but you gotta have that. It's mentality from the beginning.
Cause when I was popular in the streets, my baby
Mamaum laughed at me on time because they asked me
to go to the club. I ain't never go to
the club for you. I said, Man, they're gonna pay
me eight hundred, it's just a calm, and they laughed
at me. I wasn't nothing but a street popular street dude.
Pay me up and her friend Lucy. They gonna see this.

(22:26):
They laughed at me, like who I ain't think he is.
But that mentality, I wouldn't going to the club. I'm like,
I'm popular and people know I'm coming, They're gonna show up.
So it was a mentality and my hometown used to
laugh at me when I used to have that mentality.
But I wouldn't go to the club. I would not
go to the club I was popular. Then I started
geting fifty percent of the door. Later then I started

(22:47):
throwing parties. You know what I'm saying that I end
up with a nightclub, and there was two nightclubs. But
I always was able to monetize what I had because
I knew what popularity is A real shit one, you
know what I'm saying, Like, man, real ship, You getting
any folks, no rial shit.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
You gotta know how valuable you is as a person. Yeah,
a lot of people don't know that. It's a lot
of people running around even being around other dudes. Like
even like you got a regular dude that be around rapper.
They don't know how valuabley is to the rapper. You
give him his whole swag. By the way you talk,
way you carry yourself, your old ship out there, y'all
don't even know it. Your niggs got to be wet it.
So then you try to turn into whatever you want

(23:23):
to be. We already seen you before.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
Yeah, that goes on a lot. That's a ball, what
you just said, but that going, Hey, joker, don't even
know they stealing swag?

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Got here, bru they broke You don't even know, like
why Brooke called me every day. He called you because
he picking you. He need that sauce, need that sauce.
Like a lot of young niggas gotta know that bro
people period.

Speaker 4 (23:46):
I still I man shout out of a boy man
all people boy trouble man school. It's school was real dog.
And I used to always be like, he don't know,
they gonna be too many people. Really, he's gonna take
some real people to really help him because they don't
want around them girls like him for real, anybody girls
like without the money they pumped taking. I knew nobody.
I knew no comedian won gonna really really the reason

(24:09):
why I then the reason why I ride. Nobody come
to get me. Ain't nobody coming to get country Wayne,
And I knew that I know anybody if them girls
like it, you done. You ain't got worried about no
un list is another cool player. They understand y'all. Y'all,
I told might nobody want to give you no opportunity
shit fire and women like you guys said what I

(24:30):
was happy. I'm like, man, help me. First of all,
they like it. I don't make some money off it.
You feel what I'm saying, but well, man, that's another
thing in the game. Bro, these men really salted by women. Bro,
that's the weakness. That's that's the weakness of the whole game. Then, bro,
so salty. They kept about the money behind this ship.

(24:52):
Y'all like they start getting money behind. But I tell
the rule to me and my brothers and everybody told
mysel on, Bro, don't y'all never fall out by the girl.
Don't care one of y'all deal with the same girl.
Y'all talk about that, Bro, you should have did that,
you know. I like they talk about that, But do
never fall out about the way I write my stories

(25:12):
when it comes to Ambry and Anthony is them The
reason why I write it like that because I'm showing
them don't never don't never let it come between business
because it don't because it's like that ain't worth it.
These dude be falling out. I'm like, man, I'll be
seeing the internet. I'm like, man, I knew I finna
get some money here. I said, I forget about the
money because I said, everybody worried about the wrong thing.

(25:32):
One thing about a woman. You can't control. It ain't
your he gonna go.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
That's just what it is, especially the women that that
niggas is tripping out about in the loop.

Speaker 5 (25:44):
It's your turn, brostand there. I don't know that nigga.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
You ain't even gotta had a conversation with a woman,
just a nigga look at you and be like my
bitch to like him. Yeah, ain't getting start hating on
you like my bitch are like him, So I'm gonna
hate on him.

Speaker 3 (26:03):
Go back.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Not to be redundant, Like I say, it's being preaching
this music because you gotta think coming up listening to
Ball and g In short, we just.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Wired a certain way. Money.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Try to tell them clip money, try to tell her, Yeah,
them problems ain't no problem. Don't hate the game because
it ain't gonna solvel fact. Yeah, well you fight of love,
but I don't know. We can't say songs on Yeah,
you're gonna learn the letter. Come on, would you get
mad if another what's your acceptable? You're gonna cry like

(26:38):
a yeah. But they being a feeling though, they being
at feeling about the women, and they act like they
ain't none the most dangerous ones.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
You think true, You think true, You think true players
can exist amongst the new y ms. And the new generation.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
Man this they won't get shot, get killed. Man, who
a true player?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Do they understand what it isnt even know the game?

Speaker 4 (27:00):
Damn, That's what I'm saying. So if you be one,
you have to just find your own world and create
your own world and start the way doll because nobody's not.
Then why ends will burn you up for player, But
they won't know. To be honest, Back in the day,
like snitching was looked at like crazy, but now they
were like, all right, you can snitch. You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
You can't be a player.

Speaker 4 (27:25):
They don't swap. That was like.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
I was like, don't say that a swap switches would play.

Speaker 4 (27:31):
Oh yeah, I ain't.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Gonna lie to go inside the house.

Speaker 4 (27:35):
Oh man, you can snitch. No nobody, it's everybody know
you can. You can snitch.

Speaker 3 (27:42):
We ain't triven, ain't.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
By snitch no more. That won't glad. I'm glad. I'm
my own world. But nah, man, nobody you be if
you were real one out here, the best thing for
you to do make all the real They already had
a system for the real back in the day. It's
the it's the jail of you know what I mean.
M know what I'm saying. So now with the internet,
it's like in this world, in this game, the real

(28:04):
ones just have to What the real ones have to
do is stay real and do the opposite of what
everybody else doing. We have to be more disciplined than
them because if you get caught up in what they're doing,
we lost.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
So it's real.

Speaker 4 (28:16):
Yeah, what's real? What's real? Really? Just man, just true
you true to yourself of who you are and what
you and what you believe. But most real ones have
a similar belief on certain things. We could have you
know that's in stink right now. Yeah, it's gone.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
That ship the extinct like for a person to actually
be them trueselves no matter what it is, like like
they think real mean you're from the streets, so you
from no real It is real no matter what it is.
It can be a child, baby or old, it could
be whatever.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
It's just a real person.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
People don't understand that real don't come with like colds
and more. It is the cold and more. It's just real,
you just real, like you that person is frowned upon,
like if I told you the truth about everything, or
being just a truthful person about everything.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
You are crazy, ye because you Irri take people's spirit
when they're around. So it's really lonely being real, but
the real one. At the end of the day, though,
only the real get real results. The fate have to
keep working hard every day for results because the real
gonn You know.

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Would you say a nigga like Kanye is real?

Speaker 4 (29:31):
To Kanye real that he trying his best to be.
I feel like everybody he the realist because he show
at least he's showing his emotions like you can't be
in the world that crazy and acting like everything all right.
I think his reaction is it's like a bad child
in the house. They acting bad for a reason.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
But you think how much of it you think it's real,
how much you think it's an act.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
I don't think that nigga act okay, well is good.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
If he if he go offend, whoever, right should he apologize?

Speaker 5 (30:05):
He apologized, just apologize last week.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
I don't know. It could be an act, that could
be an act. But I just think he's a bad child. Man.
I think a child. Who I'm telling you is that
business man. He keep telling everybody what it is he
said they was getting so much off imagine trying to
push them clothes. Man, right, Man, you Kanye, and you
get to a certain part and you and they treat
you like because you think you Kanye. You get to

(30:28):
a certain part and you realize they won't really let
you in the industry for real, and you know yourself.
You know what I mean. It's like get to a
certain part in life, but you feel the cut off. Yeah,
you feel because they tell us, but they tell us,
we work hard, we get here. But then you get
when you finally get that they moved a gold post
on you. Yeah, I know how it feel because I'm
not there on social media. As soon as I hit
them mark, then they moved a gold post on me.

(30:50):
They don't change the business on it. Three times. I'm like, Man,
if I was on drugs, I'd be like Kanye right now.
You know what I'm saying. The only thing that can me,
the only thing keep me grounded. That word. I stay
in that word. I had to stay with God. And
know that this happened to everybody. Man, even David own
Son turned on him. You know what I'm saying. You
read stories of this doing happened to so you feel

(31:12):
like you ain't man, something got to come.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Do you feel like that? Do you feel like you
can because it's called containment? Do you containing yourself right?
Because you really want to flip sometimes?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah, I want to flip. I want to flip every day.
I want to flip like Kanye, but not in his however,
But I do want to flip because I'm like, I'm
getting got so for you.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Not to flip?

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Is that making you a part like he can't really
be you? Can you really be as really as you
want to be in this game?

Speaker 4 (31:39):
Yeah? Because what it don't flip me to be? It flipped.
When I sit down, when I handled my own self,
it ain't gonna never come out right. But when I
sit down and think, it pushed me to do everything
every time. That's what pushed me to start doing I
did on social media. That's what pushing me to get
my own streaming network. That's what pushing me to go
do my own movie because what it did is out

(32:00):
in me. And then it turned to the idea. Okay, so
that's what I kept doing. Every time I feel it,
they moved it, I create another that's real. Yeah. When
I went out to see my movie, oh I gotta
move with me and Coco Jones. That's her. You know
what I'm saying, Me, Coco Jones, The Red, The Red
of the Vine Man, good movie. I put some ms up,
you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I put a good bit.
I wasn't sposted to even pull their money that much,

(32:22):
but it turned into a bunch of ems my own money,
and then when I went to go sell it, they
want to own it for twenty years. Like it was
like about all these deals and I'm like, oh, I
got to get my own network.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
So basically you saying you do react, but you just
react with action. Yeah, I react with actions towards you're
a better future, better youth. Like I see what they're
trying to do, so I'm I'm gonna act out like
this like this.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
And then you try to get more people to that
with you, but they won't. So it's like I feel like,
you know, at the end of the day, man, I
feel like all entertainers now, you know, especially black entertainers,
we got enough money and resource, we own the culture,
Like we should come together at least get if we
get a black network, man, you know what I'm saying,
get them. Advertisers don't them advertisers. You know what I mean.

(33:09):
We get a black network for real and all come
together and we sharing it. Bro, we could be able
to feed that. We'll change the black and cunning me
over all the whole country, because then we'll see what
this really got. You know what I'm saying. It's like
we ain't got no black streaming platform. You know what
I'm saying, music or nothing. You feel what I'm saying.

(33:31):
So it make you you want other people to act
out with you, but you know they ain't. So you
at the loan and you act with God and you
just do what you do and just keep pushing because
you notice everybody else ain't gonna Kanye might be acting
out the wrong way though, right, and but that's be
saying that. But to him it might be the right way.
He might say I'm acting out the wrong way. But

(33:52):
at the same time, I feel like everybody should be
going crazy. I be on the email every day, Hey man,
I don't know what's up man with this video supposed
to make more than this the video I'm acting out,
but it's more calm because that's who I am. But
I understand like when somebody it's like I don't agree
with nobody taking them from nobody in the streets when

(34:14):
people robbing stuff. But I do understand how when people
are broke. That's why when I go in the hood,
I don't really wear no bunch of jersey because I'm like,
why I'm tempting this man.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Because I'm thinking its life changed. This ain't none to me,
but it's changed his life.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
It could change his life, and he could go back.
He go back home before the guy. You know what,
I'm even if he goes sell for seven thousand, you
know what seven thousand dollars gonna do for him and
his mom and his aunt teeth and hit his fresh outfit.
So it's like, I don't agree with how you move
broke because I feel like you could just hustle.

Speaker 5 (34:43):
But I get it.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
But I get it though, But I think I think
when you love somebody, some things you just understand, Like
all right, I don't how how can you add it? Now?
I try to analyze the person because I'm a storyteller.
And then every store, when a character shift is something
that made them shift, you have to go back, what's
the last thing that happened in their life? Like, oh, Kanye,

(35:04):
if people listening to Kanye. He was telling everybody, Man,
y'all don't know. Nobody did he wasn't He wasn't trying
to disrespect Sway. He like, hey man, Sway, Man, you
don't know. If I tell somebody I'm making selling figures
on Facebook, they be like, oh Wayne, you good enough?
I'm like, Bro, do you know how many views don't
get so like they don't get man, hey man, no direspect.

(35:24):
Don't tell me. You don't know what I put in
respect bro, But hey man, don't tell me I'm making them.
Don't tell me. I should be good when I know
the ideas and what I'm really putting. I mean, I'm
getting on getting a b off you and you won't
tell me. So it's like I understand, like he told,
I think Kanye told everybody.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
Now he's acting out. He added, not like their cousin
that you be like, man, ain't gonna lie. But we
know coud that like we all got their cousins like
he talented. But but if he snapped, I had a
cousin like that, man, he snapped, we all kind of know.
You try to act like he skied on you know
when he snapped. Ain't no way you have to knock
him out. If you don't knock him out, bro, he

(36:06):
gets stronger, he turns and Kanye won the ones. Hey, bro,
he kind of like, hey, yeah we we we know
him in the house. But how he at them?

Speaker 1 (36:19):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (36:20):
He told it it's about that business man and we
all go crazy about in the streets. People shoot you
about some money. So which one he shot? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (36:28):
Money?

Speaker 4 (36:29):
These people getting shot for? Who crazy? The person who
will shoot you? Oh, four thousand dollars of the person
who tripped bout five billion they supposed to have. He
just he really just acting crazy and talking. He ain't
shot nobody.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
No, no type of no type of.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
That's a logic, man.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
He ain't putting nothing nobody. He poursing nobody. He's just speaking.
He's speaking with people saying closed doors. He's just saying
it out live. If it's this big world.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
I'm gonna tell you how I know Kanye really ain't
probably gotten all that all that, you know, like all
the allegations and ship the niggas have, you know, like
how niggas be having in their closet because he do
too much. It'd been exposed him for like, you know,
like if he was a I don't want whatever, yeah, you.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
Know, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
Whatever he be on in his spare time.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
If he was hiding something, yeah, if he had something
you know.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
In the world's okay, we can't even say that on
the where.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
If he whatever they be doing?

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Hey, but man, hey, en to day, we got to
start by saying certain stuff. I just feel like, hey, dog,
you know, I like I'm in I'm I'm in the
company club working on my new jokes, and I'm just
saying that stuff man, because like, bro, we know, come on, man.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Why is why do you think somebody like Chappelle can
just do it? Because you just don't.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
Get because he already what this happened was Japelle his
show was so big and he felt like when he
felt like he was cooling, the White said he stopped.
They fell in love with him because he was already
doing what they wanted to do. So they let him
get a past because okay, you can say you free now,
but you're done. You remember that, we remember the videos

(38:12):
when you're when you acted like this, and then then
when Chappelle.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
Stopped it, but they were like, we got enough.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
We already got it's like when the woman be like,
I ain't did what you don't over shouted, you should
have like that for you. Then we come I'm going
to church, okay for got you know you sitting Oh boy,

(38:38):
like you send some messages and everything just because you
go through God. They don't raise the pictures you sitting here,
but you thank God, like, let me delete these pictures
that you sit to him like this right here like everything.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
So every chance he gets tho, he go hard.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
Yeah. So Chappelle what he did. I like what he
did because what he did, man, he just walked away
from that. And Chappelle said that why he walked away
because when he was woke, he was like, hold up,
they loving me because of how I portraying on the show.
So they let Chapelle do it cause it's like, okay,
you know what I'm saying, But he's coming back hard.
But it's like, you ain't it ain't that dangerous because

(39:13):
black people don't follow you like that.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (39:17):
Yout know what I'm saying. Yeah, like they know that
we love Chappelle and all that, but we ain't locked
into him.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Yeah yeah to his every word, like yeah, moving, moving,
moving to the beat of his drum.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, we are his style of comedy. You know what
I'm saying. Black people just not catching up.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
We know what we like.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
Come on, man, it's like you know, it's like barbecue chicken. Man, Man,
mushroom ain'tn't never have nothing on barbecue chack. I tell
everybody every day man, man, I'm a digging and everything.
I be strolling looking at the chicken on my phone
every day. I look at limon pillow chicken like, no, mushrooms, man,

(39:53):
ain't the same. You can trick yourself all day like
I want to, Like they got here snails and go
to the blue flame boy, that living pepper chicken. I remember.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Hey, man, so you think it's a real back room
to all this ship though, but just to entertainment, like
a back room.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Yeah, I think I think what it is with entertainment.
I think black people got the gift and white people
got the gift of law recognition. I think they recognize
the gift more then we than we do. Like they
can see they can see it like we could be dribbling,
but they be like, oh, let me create the NBA.

(40:32):
Because when when you don't have the gifts, you're thinking
about business all day. We got the gift so much,
we don't treat it the same. It's like after you
It's like in relationships, we've been a person twenty years,
you forgot that this person is whatever got you remember,
you got to remember who they are. So I think
that's why the reason why I pay black people so
much money, because I value me. They just I value them.

(40:53):
They don't value them. But it's like when you we
don't see ourselves. And I think the back room in
this game, if well try to get into their system,
we always gonna lose because they system. They trick us
to get into their sister instead of believing the man.
Hey man, I believe in God and it's a highest source.
And if God is God, there's no way I got
to keep going through you. I got it. I got

(41:14):
to give it. Hey man, don't get me on network. Bro,
I'm gonna do this. I'm gonna do that. And if
it don't work, whatever, I believe whoever, whoever allowed me
the moody legs and wake up in the morning, I
believe in him. So I think the back room for
them is if they trick you to get in their
system and think you Finnah, come up.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
You know what I'm saying, Like, do you think like
just saying it's like you're building your own network. This
ship's huge already, so it's gonna get bigger, bigger. Do
you think it's gonna become a time to where now
this shit get too big one you gotta come.

Speaker 5 (41:42):
Talk to somebody.

Speaker 4 (41:43):
Yeah, it already happened.

Speaker 1 (41:45):
I'm just saying like, okay, but we can stop your
shit too though. You know what I'm saying, Like that
type of bathroom where we can put the roadblocks in
front of your ship.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Yeah, they can stop it. They can stop it right now.
You know what I'm saying, whoever own it, if I'm
on social media, if I'm on YouTube, they can stop it.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
You get what I'm saying. Yes, So I'm saying, like,
so how do how do you navigate that?

Speaker 3 (42:07):
Ba?

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Man?

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I just I just I'm trying to you know what
I'm saying, build my own network, and I just believe
in something higher. I'd be like, man, well you stop it,
God gonna do something else for me. You got there.
If you do stop it, man, something gonna happen to
the world. I believe I got face like that yeah,
like I ain't never had a gun in the streets,
but I always had a spiritual pistol. I told the
police one time he pulled me over. I said, man, bro,

(42:28):
I ain't gonna do that to you, but you keep
you keep pulling me over, Man, for no reason. You're
breaking your rules. You the police. Okay, yeah, you know
I sell dope probably, but man, forgive me it. Let
me go on the line. Don't just keep profile of
my car because now you're breaking your rules. And I say,
if you keep playing me, man, God gonna do something.
So I think the only hope we got. I tell everybody, man,

(42:49):
if Jesus ain't real, we do them anyway because we
never gonna beat them and they stay own everything, then
these folks can really I'm making money, right, but that
needs me breaking by it. They could really cut me
off today. They could stop my page and not let
me upload, right. So I'm just like, man, I got
to get my own.

Speaker 5 (43:09):
Turn Kanye money off. Like how they can turn your
account off.

Speaker 4 (43:12):
When I seen that, I said, oh my god, they
said we turned it, made it public. So I'm like,
I just think, but Kanye made a mistake. But I
believe that system was gonna let you go that far anyway.
They ain't never letting nobody. They ain't letting us really go.
They show us a few billionaires they keep talking about.
I'm tired of him about the same being there. Stop
showing me. Got there, jay z open Man, Hey man,

(43:34):
that's it. I know. I hear future music everywhere. Man,
who holding this?

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Man?

Speaker 4 (43:39):
Man? Hey man? Yeah, I give what you're saying. I'm like,
hey man, hold up, man.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
Where the money. We'll let y'all get a couple hundred million?

Speaker 1 (43:49):
Yeah, yeah, but y'all man, if a man got two
hundred million, whatever, one hundred.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
Million, what y'all got? What y'all got, man? And I
mean that's a billion allar niggas. I know they have it.
I know they got that because they laughing like they
got it. That's why we can't laugh like them. It
ain't the same because they so they got our that's
our soul in them. Still don't even man, they took

(44:16):
our lab Man, we laughing. Man, when we laughed, we
got to run and move to get cracked that laugh.
We gotta get up. They stand at once by. We
take a picture with them in the house. We bought

(44:37):
that boy and boy, the house was big. You bought it,
you big dumby the game. The game messed up. All
the things you can do is know that the game
messed up. And if I enjoy what you're doing and
really go and be try to like man, I trying
to own it. Man, you know what I'm saying, like
die trying to own it. You know what I'm saying,
I agree with that because it is messed up for

(45:00):
the game. The way they've been doing entertainers over the years. Man,
I be listening to I was gonna make a listen
to music when I've heard Tupac he say trying to
get a meal and the I'm like, trying to get
a million. You know, Okay, you know li'ly gonna talk

(45:22):
about We're gonna talk about the song. I played it
back so many times cause you know.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
You know what I mean, You're trying to get a million.

Speaker 4 (45:29):
You trying to get a million? I said, Oh my god,
I said, man, it was They've been doing this a
long time, but you know, he the hotest. We all
were all talking about thub passion and yeah, you know
what I'm saying, I'm like, Oh, this game is running
they've been doing it. They've been doing this a long time.

(45:49):
And to be honest, bro, you it's some good people
out there though. But at the end of the day, man,
you can't expect no human, every human gonna let you
die some kind of shape form fashion anyway. So it's like,
you can't trust nobody who got power over to you
to really do you right unless they you I watch
our person treat themself, you know what I'm saying. Like
it's like I had a conscious man, like I got

(46:10):
to pay the peep.

Speaker 5 (46:11):
You can't trust some motherfucker another motherfucker to do you
right now?

Speaker 4 (46:14):
How brouse this thing about this? Now? We now I'm
from the street, so I'm a tall street vices. So
if I'm a bad person and I owe you and
I want to bless you, but I go to casino
and I lose a million dollars, man, I'm not I'm
taking out your cut, right, Thank god, I'm a good person.

(46:36):
I still know the been talented. So what's what's happening
is they are they're gonna look out for them. So
even if they got good intentions, man, I'm gonna do right.
But then they got to pay taxes. Or they might
have got somebody got to take care of a whole
another family or whatever. Man, They're like, hey man, I

(46:56):
can take this out of that bro. Human human, gonna
be a human, Human, gonna be a human.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
It's time to let somebody touch your money for you
touching it. Oh my god, this is our money, you
know what I'm saying. If it's our money, it's our money.

Speaker 4 (47:09):
I hate that play. I don't play that. What they
just text me about my brother, my Winnings a business manager.
They sent me over a business manager man. And it
was like they tried to sell it on me. I'm
talking too much on this big fan. But the big
fas I got. They tried to sell it to me

(47:29):
like this is Edie Murphy's business manager, and all this
and this and this, and they said business. I think
it was like five percent. Think it was like five
percent or something five percent. And I was at a
computer on the zoom and I had did the math.
I said, if I hear them five percent, they're gonna
get this money. I say, I will rather trick it off.
Just they get five percent of your business to pay

(47:52):
your taxes and all that money you added that ship
up and I added it up and I Google, I
logged into my tax place. I say, thing to pay
it is you mess sind I could pay my own taxes.
Put the numbers in, tell you put put the numbers
in what I made versus I messed to seeing. But

(48:12):
I'm like, who is selling these talking about my business?

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Man?

Speaker 4 (48:15):
I'm talking people like man, my bisness? Hey many bey
gonna check that. I hate people tell me how the money?
Oh man, you see what my money? They always show
a piece of thing on the phone with some numbers
going up in the stock market. Maybe your grandma, Hey man,
get some mad money?

Speaker 2 (48:29):
Hey man, spending right now?

Speaker 4 (48:35):
Man, hey man, hold on, Man, I had the work
hard for this mine. You're gonna hold it again. I'm like, man,
by Black, I really realized we trust everybody with our
with our money too much, too man. You know what
I'm saying. They trigger us. They trigger us, like when
they sell me these rolations, say, but you can. They

(48:56):
always tell you how much it's worth. It's like, man,
they're watching worth, go try to sell it.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
There.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
I everybody gonna sell the jury one time. Don't they
be paving the white gloves on? Man? They give me
to watch man. I like the way look said it
got out there showing it like, man, this is an investment.
Come on, man, No, bro, I don't rember watch it right.
Some of them watching They say that they roles to

(49:25):
sell it back.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
But but if you old rolas for amount of time.

Speaker 5 (49:29):
No, the more go up and down like shop Mark.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
They say that, but I'm ether pay taxes on it
if I get the money back. But they do go
up and down. Yeah, they do up and down. I
ain't gonna lie it's investment, but it ain't come on now,
but I give it. You're saying, no, over sell it
to don't over sell it to me, Yeah, because I'm
messing up. Let me mess up in peace. Let me miss.
I don't hate when people, bro. Let me let me
blow this money in piece. Man, you don't see me
on that. Yeah, because if you make me not want

(49:52):
if I do sell it later on, that means something.
Right anyway, It's supposed to be laugh thing to go
to it, But I'm looking at my wrists trying to
about it. When I bought it, yeah, I just did
something else with that. But now I believe investing in
people though I believe, I believe like investing in people.
Could people could move for you know, a Ferrari if

(50:13):
I tell a Ferrara to come here right now and
move something. But a person can go make something happen
for you. So I believe in investing in people. I
rather lose money and people then'll lose money and in
that system. Let me because if a Joe can make
if you make twenty thirty million in a year, man,
somebody getting ten percent off that that your family could

(50:34):
have did if they ain't helping you really make them. Okay, Yeah,
it is some people that do you know what I'm saying. Oh,
but if they get three million dollars, probably could have
talked somebody about you're gonna lose with your family at first,
now God teaching them you're gonna lose. But when they
finally do get it, you got you somebody at least
at least it's your family, you know what I'm saying.
So that's what I do. I put all my everybody,

(50:54):
my baby, Mama's my skit. I don't play. You want
some money, you got come getting these skits. If I'm
with a girl, she h yeah, come getting these kits.
It's a family business. And I'm gonna pay. You ain't
getting at of them. You never getting out of my money.
But you sure can work for something. Facts you ain't
never getting out of my paper. You know what I'm saying.

(51:16):
You don't have to work, but I'll be visiting people.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
Opportunity mm hmm. Man, like you used to wrap so
when you know, like the wrapping winn't for you.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Man, I told you your thug, man, and I seen
your thug on wrapping. Well, it was your thug. And
DC young flyes a cummin nation. I was in Atlanta
and DC young Fly had just started popping, you know
what I'm saying. And it was a girl named Kayla.
She had walked by and I had I had one
of the new charges, you know when the new charges.
I was in a charge of rental car, pocket full

(51:48):
of money in my pocket. Yeah, I was in the
rental off here and a girl named Kayla walked. I
said she fine. She had a curly hair, and I'm
looking at her. I'm like I might holl shout it.
But DC on Fly walked up and man with them
like you know who they is, that's DC on Flying
and manual them like she's like she was telling her
friend girls like you know, they the new Internet guys.

(52:10):
And the way she looked, I said, hold up, the
new Internet people, it's getting the sauce now. That was
one thing I said, I'm gonna go get raled then.
But when I heard your third rap, I knew it
wasn't for me. He said he was too good. I said,
it's changing if that's coming into industry, because no, guy,

(52:30):
that were flowing. But I could keep up with that
floor a lot of you know what I'm saying, it's
your boy your I ain't got talking about it. I
don't even know what he said, but I just know
she sounds like sliding. I'm in the club that O.
I love her. I monague whatever they were saying. DJ

(52:51):
is playing it three times a night. Yeah, I say, man,
nah rap changing boy Yeah, them boys, the boy, them boys,
the boys rapping, and it kept it kept going like
Thull kept going. Man, you know, the future had already
was on his wave and all their future was just
so good. It was like people who was coming, but

(53:11):
just that Joe was hitting another level.

Speaker 3 (53:13):
Feel like they was like musicians, not just rapping.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Yeah, like you know I was when I was when
I was I like Gucci them things. You know what
I'm saying. It was like lyrics saying what saying about
the streets, you know what I'm saying. And then people
started rapping about using drug instead of selling them, and
I ain't have no experience, so I was like, hold up,
when I was rapping, it's about how much you sold.
I had a brick and hear the leg you know.
You know what I'm saying. It was that kind of flow.

(53:36):
But then when they started, you know, back in the day,
you did what you did, you kept that private, you
know what I'm saying. You did, But now it was
like rapping about it, like the game changing, and they
too good, and I ain't want to be a part
of it. I didn't want to be a part of
that because I was like, I don't like to be
I don't like to get in no game. I don't
feel like I could be one of the dominant.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
But once when you knew that, like this this is
where you're gonna be at right here.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Oh, because I just knew the comedians. Comedians were funny,
but I knew they was always just funny. I knew
that I knew this game. The business was the business
wasn't over here yet. Okay mm hmm. Coming to game,
comedians wasn't because one thing coming from the rap game,
you do know, rappers started getting money, started seeing t

(54:25):
I didn't move a certain way. You know, Gucci them hot.
Comedians don't ever really get that paper, you know what
I'm saying. Less you just get big and movies like
Kevin hartdam But I was like, oh, this game is
like charged territory, so I can get with you and
this and that because that game already see me in it.
You have to go through the tunnels to get the
paper like versus here you create because nobody was paying it.

(54:48):
Nobody never looked at comedian. Rappers really won't comedians come around.
I never did this. Comedians come around. They basically want
us to put on the free show. I never was
the one because it's like medias don't value theirself. You
never a comedian.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
They feel like they always want to prove prove that
they can do what they can do. They already can
do it, They.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Already could do it. They already could do what they
could do. Comedians never looked at themselves and hold loo
we the money because we don't even need a beat
behind us. The production costs is low, you know what
I'm saying. So when I came over here in the
comedy world, this felt like, oh my god. It's like
it's like it's like being from Atlanta. You go in
them country towns where they're paying double the I was

(55:33):
like they got too much knowledge in the round. Gay
over here it was it was, it was sweet, it
was it was lovely because nobody was thinking about money.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Comedians they don't never they're for real though, they don't
ever really think about the money. I came in thinking
about the money off the rip. So I was like this,
this this territory was and I knew they didn't have
the context. They couldn't talk about all us was funny,
but like none of them got ain't no street comedian.
I ain't no, I ain't no comedian that really had

(56:04):
the streets. You know, the women already, you know what
I'm saying. I got kids, I got I got a
lot of stuff to talk about, so I knew my subject.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Matter, especially from the South.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yeah, especially from the South. And I'm from a small
town and I just got more. I got ten kids,
so I can't run out of material. I got ten kids,
the baby mamas, my whole family with me for real.
My grandma, my brothers, my sister, my godparents, my dad
are all on work with me. You know what I'm saying.
So it's like my family is so big and my

(56:33):
experience is so big. I knew that it was nobody
in the comedy game who was gonna have my subject matter.
And I knew the people I was gonna pick up.
It's gonna stick with me forever because it's like joking
might be funny because comedian is funny. Everybody think they
funny in the comedian, but man, the comedian, every least
one of them comedians, I've been around them. They funny.
They just subject matter like me and the comedian will

(56:53):
be for one time. He would beef with me, But
I told him, brother, you funny, Yojo, because they because
a lot of people be like, why they walk, why
they rocking with country? Wayne? He ain't that funny to me?
I'm like, but the streets know what I'm talking about.
You just ain't one of them people in the streets.
I got. I got to water them coming to my
show so they understand what you ain't lived this. You

(57:16):
ain't had multiple women want with you until you got
some money, so you don't know how this feels. So
it was like the coming the game was like me rapping.
I met daf a few months before he passed Bro.
He told me because I had did a drip video
and I went back to my teacher highs and I
was like, yoah, yoll, you really ain't believing me, but
I got a midstate dropping. You know what I'm saying.
I was talking like drill and Doff has seen the video.

(57:38):
He said, Bro, Man, my partner was just talking you
basically doing what we're doing, but breaking it down and
putting in the comingy game. So I knew that coming.
I knew there was no comedian that was gonna be
able to compete with that versus rapping. I had already
been seen because jeez, it was a hustler. He I
was a hustle Gucca the husband the same old store

(57:59):
and got a rick. Hear the lick shining with you
know what I'm saying, Like you know what I'm saying.
What was gonna be different? But over here, ain't that
Ain't that ain't really been in the comedy game. It
ain't really been over here, so.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
You weren't influenced by no other comedians like coming.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Up, Nah, I ain't want to be Nah.

Speaker 5 (58:16):
You ain't even know that, like the just landing in
your left landing my left.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
I ain't never wanted to be no comedian, but I
knew when in Paul I said, oh, this jokes, ain't
I knew. I never looked at a comedian and say
he funded in me, But I don't look at the
raffle and said, nah, he doted me. I ain't never looked.
I ain't never been scared. They when we were coming up,
No comedians try to go on stage before me and
try to I'm like, bro, I'm not from the bomb

(58:41):
because I can talk. I could I could say something
in here that catch everybodys attention because I've lived it
and they could feel it on me. So you know
what I'm saying. It's like if you go on stage
and talk, like if you go on stage with your
experience and I could feel that, I really excited every
time I come on here. You got so much wisdom
in the mixtape game screen talk, You're gonna be so

(59:03):
detailed about what you're talking about. They're gonna listen to
you anyway when you talk. If you say something body
the street, they listen because they can feel it on you.
The way you look at people, you be like, man,
that's your line. You can watch the interview. You're not.
Yeah you could? You can't high? You need some shades.

(59:25):
You can't you be looking at people? Yeah, yeah, I'll
be high, bro, you could? You you can read people.
So it's like, no, man, I never looked at a
comedian and thought you were funny?

Speaker 1 (59:39):
And what about a comedian like when you got in
the game with which comedians came at you? When you
got in the game like that, you're surprised that damn
the niggas with.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
The big ones, all the ones. Who was rich? Kim
Heart Uh? Kim Heart Uh? Who came off the real?
Mikeel showed love off the rill too, Mikeael showed love afterrial.
Kim Heart said you entertain of major love. Steve Harvey,
he still showed. He still showed love me and Kem
Heart he called me with my special drop.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
How did that make you feel like when you was
in it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Even though you're gonna go hard anyway, But niggas niggas
that in the same lane as you recognize you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
How that made you feel?

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Man, It really made me feel good coming from them though,
because I know they had seen it all. And when
like when Steve Harvey called me out and was like, man,
my special, one of the best ones he ever seen
and all that, I was like, Okay, he get it.
You know what I'm saying, because it just felt different
because them boys, them boys don't been through them levels.
Them boys don't been through all them levels. Yeah, And

(01:00:37):
I studied and I was fans of them before. See,
I was always fans of comedy, but I ain't know
I wanted to be a comedian. But yeah, now if
you know, the validation from them, definitely, it definitely feel
good for me.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
They immediately put you like as a peer, like, nah,
you wanted them. They ain't reaching not to know anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:00:52):
No, it was like it was the love and the
hate was strong. On the other end, a lot of
other comedians hate it because see they love like DC.
Because DC more friendly than me, you know what I'm saying.
He more accepting, like you know what I'm saying. Like,
but me, I'm like, I ain't even mean, but I
just I just wanting to know I asked real questions.
I be wanting nobody that paper. You just can't like, man,

(01:01:13):
that was the business. So it's like that type of person.

Speaker 5 (01:01:17):
Oh okay, so that's your conversation.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
They see me as a real threat because I had
to say I had my subject matter because I was
talking about real stuff on stage. So a lot of
comedians see me as a threat because the people was
the way the people was treating me because they was home.
When you start hearing your aunties and your uncles be like, man,
this country ain't got hung up, you know what I'm saying.
But DC don't have the other crowd. But a lot

(01:01:40):
of older comedians were tripping because I had they crowd
like who is this young boy? You know what I'm saying.
They got our audience in the church. They're talking about
me at a church, so like how how And it's
like how it's not fair because a pastor called me
man during the pandemic, he had the zoom with me,
a big Perston in DC. They were trying to see
how y'all let Wayne scream Jesus. But he clearly ain't perfect.

(01:02:03):
Look at his life. So a lot of people from
the church for a lot of comedians with jealous because
it's like I didn't have to choose a lane. I
got the church, the hood, you know what I mean,
and everybody because I'm being honest and being myself that
I'm not perfect, but I know who he is. And
but no, there's a lot of hate, man, but I ain't.
I ain't really care.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
You're saying the beginning on now or steal whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
It's a lot of hate now still, Oh Lord Jesus,
what they hate knowing because they I rented up a
different way and they can't stand it because nobody can't
control me, because it's like the way I rent it up,
because that gang control. Like if you don't if somebody
don't want you to get a special, you ain't getting

(01:02:48):
no special. You feel what I'm saying, if somebody don't
want you to get and I'm telling you the gang controlled,
if you depend on the game. But the way I
came up, nobody's seen it coming is like dog, we
can't control him. Too late to hate, it's too late.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
But I'm like a bad child, like you're saying earlier
about the wings, Like you you're working on legacy now,
you you and your legacy stay like this legendary.

Speaker 5 (01:03:10):
All you doing there now is adding to your.

Speaker 4 (01:03:12):
Legacy because cause you hear Yeah, because I did this
for all social media comedians because I didn't like the
way they was talking about They were talking about me
and DC and all of us. They were like, social
Media's got the fans, but they were all calling us broke,
and I knew. I say, man, y'all got the wrong
one talking to me. It's a hustle in the game.
So it's like a lot of don't hate because they
know they can't. You can't hold that over me. I'm

(01:03:34):
in a big movie and you're not. That's what they
do to us. It's like, but I'm like, hey, but
I'm getting it, like I'm in a big movie. So
they hated now because they hate him because the same
hate universe.

Speaker 3 (01:03:42):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:03:42):
They hate because they hate because they're man. They hating
because it's the way I came up. It's the way
I did it, because it's like, what this would happen
When people get a deal, then they try to add
like their entrepreneurs, they gonna go to hey, what yeah,
one thing about step them They don't say that Michael Jordan,
Hey man, they get their money. It's okay to be

(01:04:02):
your check. But everybody want to get the credit of
everybody want to get the credit of a hustler. I'm like, bro,
you not finna get that tag on you because the
people who really hustle, people who died and went the
jail behind it. Like if my mama died in the streets,
my daddy got my daddy did ten years feed my
brother over there? Did now your feed? My uncle did
now your feed? So the pain I had to go

(01:04:23):
through to become this. They hate a hustler because a
hustler is free. When I was in the street, they
hate dope boys. If you're working it out, dope boys
get hated. Now why we go to Jack, shouldn't did
all this money?

Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Anyway?

Speaker 4 (01:04:34):
I'm can come up with how I told you now
what you're gonna through. Now you feel what I'm saying.
So the hustler gonna always get hated because they all
want to be that. But when you're at home, if
you get a TV deal right and it changed your life,
the fans seen that change your life. So we love
you and we're a fan of you, but we don't
believe the same versions When they see you getting out

(01:04:54):
the mud. Yeah, it's totally different. You get a different
respect than the black community. When they be like they
might be like, oh, man, we love him hit the
big movie. But the country, oh your family might be
like country, why ain't that boy? The boy got God?
He different and they hate him because black people treat
me like that. They treat me. They hated because I'm
getting treated like the dope boy when he come home.

(01:05:16):
Dope boy, you know, Grandma, you know him a better
plate that junior spot. He couldn't sit around man. Man, Yeah,
but you're sleeping on the soul playing the game. He
doing wrong, but he taking a risk. He understand that
these circumstances around here. Case they like this, so he
gonna get the bigger play. Gotta walk to see your car.

(01:05:38):
They know you out there, and so they hated now
because everybody man, And to be honest, they don't even
know bro, like I wish.

Speaker 5 (01:05:47):
Now you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
I just say that sounds good. But at that point
it was a point of time my career. I won't like, man,
let me get me out the streets, get me a legit.
But in this moment, right now, at this moment, right here,
they hate because they know I all care about brother
people coming to me by man TV show like, ain't
no way on were doing that movie for that unless
it's a bigger play than the money. How stuff a

(01:06:10):
bigger play than the money? Like I do that move
for free. But they don't like my freedom. So anybody
who free, it ain't just me getting hated on. If
you're free, they gonna hate you. And right now they
be like because they can't figure it out either, because
they're like, how's this boy the money tizing off social media? Man?
And it's like, ain't no way he They don't got
all kind of rumors. Now they think selling dope. I

(01:06:33):
wish a joker would come ride me, throw some dope.
I'm I'm stitching. Get it, man, I'm not the same
person I was then. It was about get out around me.
They get around me, but they when I did what
I did on social media, man, the love came from
the people. But it's a lot of haters in the industry,

(01:06:54):
you know what I'm saying. Because they can't figure out
who showed me the most love. It's rappers. Mm hmm.
Rappers be like, hey, man, show me how some of
them got people in the game. Can't stand it because
the people treat me a certain way. So they trying
to find a flaw. Right now, people just digging up
my They trying to dig up what can we say
about him? I said that my only problem with women,

(01:07:16):
and we know in the hood I told they got mad.
It's it's a girl I know from friends. I know
they got mad. I told her. I said, listen, bro,
the reason why I don't get in trouble about that
as much because I'm not abusing them and I'm not there,
you know what I'm saying. And the women I have
been with, I took care of them, you know what
I'm saying, even though after I even after I left
for a girl, I won't take care of you know

(01:07:38):
what I'm saying for a certain amount of time. End
of the day, that problem ain't the biggest problem in
the community. So they not going They want me to bad.
People want me to get bashed. It's plainly my it's
some mind. Baby Mama like you a bad person because
you broke my heart. I'm like, bro, it's people breaking
jaws you're talking about. I heard your feeling somebody smoll

(01:08:00):
op that they just got hit by Bobby. So you
know I read to everybody at my flaw. Bro, it's
always been man, I got ten kids, man, so it's
like anything else they want to dig I am who
I'm a better person than I actually put out. I'm
just laid back. I like to I like to eat, chill,
my family, kick it, bro, I don't be long. I

(01:08:22):
got roof over my head and I ain't. I ain't
really that ambitious.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
No, I was just gonnask you you're gonna push the
envelope further.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I got too because my stomach full. But it's so
many hungry people I know. So you connected to people,
they stomach stay empty. So it's the negative part is
got to keep looking out for people. But the positive
part is that's what keep giving you the ideas. Because
when you love, love push you further. When you love somebody,

(01:08:53):
you start. Martin Luther King didn't try to get his
name on the street. His love for people made him
Martin Luther King. So he just was speaking out a look.
I don't, hey, man, they doing these people? They doing
us wrong. But now he to heat a legend. I
didn't try to become who I am. I just was
really trying to feed my dang. I mean, I got
some money, but now my sisters. I got to make
sure my sisters don't pay their bills. Now my sister

(01:09:15):
got paid. Make sure my brothers don't have to work.
I don't want him to have to sell adult. My
daddy's got home. Don't make sure don't have to sell
that gouy. I give him enough money, Well, he don't
have to sell a dope.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:09:23):
I don't my baby mama need to be home with
the kid. Let me not find a way, you know
what I'm saying. It's like the love for people. Just
push me to find business ideas. So I'm pushing him
alone now like I'm aiming at you know, I'm going
at them business. You know what I'm saying, because but
I'm forced to because I keep running, forced to go.
I keep running too, I keep running to the stopping points.

(01:09:44):
We'll be like, damn, y'all fin to change the rules
on me. You think you got something like, y'all, Just
y'all change the rules on me again. But that's your
platform and this, y'all, I can't get mad.

Speaker 5 (01:09:54):
Oh, so you're making folks change the rules like you're
breaking bear.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
Yeah, change the rules come get too many. My engagement. Man,
I dropped for the videos a day of new content.
So I'm dropping more videos and new content than everybody
in the world.

Speaker 3 (01:10:10):
Videos a day.

Speaker 4 (01:10:11):
Yeah, they dropping right now while we're talking.

Speaker 3 (01:10:15):
The turnaround crazy too.

Speaker 4 (01:10:17):
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:10:17):
I was in one with Bread. It might have came
out the damn same day.

Speaker 4 (01:10:21):
Oh yoh, it don't take no, but we don't hit it.
You just say actions, cut, and you cut off action
and cut off cut and it's ready to go. It's
they trying to stop it because it's like the crack epidemic,
you know what I'm saying. While everybody was trying to
pull they need out and wrap their arm up. Joking,

(01:10:42):
you feel what I'm saying. So the crack epidemic was
with the content game the way I feel they calling
it what they trying to do now they copying what
I started. They trying to call it verticals. Hollywood taking
it and gave it a name. So now they got everybody,
Kim kardash and everybody missing in these vertical platform ones
because I was the only one shooting with the phone

(01:11:03):
up and down. Okay, Bread told me you got to
have a sideway. I said, that don't make sense. I say,
because people so got ADHD they don't feel like taking
an extra step. So if they have to really like
something to do this versus I say, if I'm up
and down, they'll be like, oh, what's this And by
the time they be like they hooked, So now they

(01:11:23):
scrolling this way. People don't like to do no instra moves.
So I started a two thousand and fourteen.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
That this year.

Speaker 4 (01:11:35):
Last year they started verticals in America. You know what
I'm saying, So everybody on verticals. Now, everybody doing the verticals,
but I've been doing it. If they're doing the verticals
and they doing micro dramas, but I was the only
one doing soap operas on social media. I stopped being
funny because I seen them. I call up board Mike,
I'm making I'm making money with dripping and all that.
But I was like something told God woke me up

(01:11:57):
out of nap and I was like, what movie make
the most money? Like the biggest Google comedy movies. Comedy
movies ain't make that much. I'm like one of the
biggest movies like Hangover, Hangover, okay, so but it's only
a few of them. But all the drama relationship movies
last too longer. So I was like, I switched that

(01:12:17):
day we went to set, so the skit might supposed
be fun I say, stop being funny, bro I direct,
I say, no, you're gonna do this look and I
get serious. I switched that day. I stopped. I stopped
dripped off the Rip. You know what I mean. I said, Man,
Drip be googled some reels or something, but you gotta
sit down right now because the relationships and these storylines,
you know what I'm saying. And I was doing it.

(01:12:39):
My agency then was mad because like people when they
be putting the list out of comedians, I don't get
mad because they right, I ain't been the fun on
any of that three yells. People be taking up with
me like man, y'all got way messed up. No, they don't,
cause I stopped being funny with Drip, so they're right.
I don't. I don't deserve to be on them list

(01:13:00):
unless you watch my special. You know what I'm saying,
That my specials drop. You know what I'm saying, Like
Marshall shout out my special March Twitter third dropping on Amazon,
my second special, my first one drop on it flip
but my special drop. You get that side of Wayne.
But I don't sell that for free. You know what
I'm saying, you don't. I'm just the drama told us
free now, no man. So I really realized that soap

(01:13:23):
operas and relationships and serious was gonna last because everybody
who'll be funny on social media, but they're not gonna
watch that for three minutes. See the monetize on social media.
You gotta do three minutes plus. So you can't do
that because you're gonna clip it to death. They might
watch it. That's why our reels are ninety seconds because

(01:13:44):
they already did the research that three minutes. You're gonna
have to be able to act. You have to add
them chops, So you gonna have to be into somebody
like oh see, like you find out your girl cheat,
really take a beat, but you're trying to get it,
trying to waste some seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
He's put three minutes on Instagram.

Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
Instagram don't pay because they were paid, but I was
the only one doing it. That's why I was on
Instagram here were dripping all that, and they kept it
g because they did pay me. Three months after I
got off They was like, we finished in the program,
but you been going hard. You know what I'm saying.
But nobody was doing it. Nobody ain't want the money

(01:14:23):
people still man content and content creators. Man, I don't
do no business with content creators because I'm like, you
won't even get the money that's on there, you know
what I'm saying. They would not post for three minutes.
They were still posting to get a reaction in a
teacher like how many times did people gonna make you?
Gonna make you laugh? Like? Man, oh my boy. Deser

(01:14:44):
told me he said he don't like post long content
because his fans don't like it. I was like, hey, man,
mine ain't like it at first, but ay man, I'm
not finna sit here on this platform and just be
funny if it ain't paying me, you know what I'm saying.
At a certain point, got to cut that off. But Noah,
Instagram don't pay.

Speaker 5 (01:15:03):
Though, So which you want to getting the money up?

Speaker 4 (01:15:08):
YouTube? YouTube? Facebook? YouTube and Facebook? No, I ain't giving
you that money man, because everybody the problem is think
about it. The advertiser is not finna pay for no real. Yeah,
they can't put the ad in there. So the reason
why YouTube in it because they the audience is trained

(01:15:28):
to watch longer content. Them ads got to come in there,
so people got to understand, really, your fans were really
for you to pop on social media because a free product,
my fans don't have to pay for me to get paid.
The advertiser gonna pay me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
So you should drive your people to YouTube into Facebook.
They don't mind following you cause the real fans those
are not consumers.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
They don't mind following because it's free for one and
I give them new counting every day. So a restaurant,
they got some new, some fresh chicken every day and
they killing the chicken in front of you. You're like,
you know it, somebody ride about it. They killing that
one to night. They got a whole bunch of Hi
They plucking fella. He's like, man, every day it's exciting
because it ain't no clips. This boy really dropping forty

(01:16:13):
brand new videos a day. And and you know it's
like it's like it's the it's the it's the game.
But I stopped being fun on social media since twenty
twenty one. I stopped drilled twenty twenty one. That's the
last time you see me. I ain't been funny so
long that I did a drop that I'm coming back.

(01:16:35):
Before I did the drop, I said, watch this drop,
go bout. I started back standing up, but I was
funny a little bit. I was like, well I'm back.
They laugh at anything now because way, ain't ain't being
funny every time you see them, man, Like every time
I do something else on the end ofnet. They laughed
so hard because like, dog, bro, you used to be
the old man, Buddy, Hey.

Speaker 5 (01:16:57):
Where you shot the specially the next one.

Speaker 4 (01:16:59):
I'm shot in that, I shouted, Oh, I came oh lord,
second one, the second one way different than the first one.
The first one was good and everything, but I had
to let people know who I was. I've been had
no joke. But the second one, man, I came out
of Dolph because see, I don't got to see the
first one. I couldn't be every who. I knew they
were't gonna give me that money. So I was like,
I came out of fantastic Wayne is the good, but

(01:17:20):
it's second in the streets. The second one, I came
out of that dog.

Speaker 3 (01:17:25):
What's the name of the nostalgia?

Speaker 4 (01:17:26):
Okay, I'm taking them back to how things was the jokes.
I can't you know what I'm saying. I got the
red suit. You know what I'm saying. The part before
the special, it's just like that second special I did
in a you know what I'm saying. We did two
shows and it was just like y'all, y'all, y'all. So yeah,
we're here. We definitely gonna be tuned in. Yeah in

(01:17:47):
March for the Third Man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
What kind of what kind of number? Like one of
the entities one wanted you to be exclusive. We've seen
shots to like Charlamagne two hundred, them was Joe Rogan
the hundred and something. It was just the people who
get them type of deals, and we know you're getting
plenty of paper. Kind what kind of number would make
you maybe entertained locking in with an entity?

Speaker 3 (01:18:06):
Is there a number?

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:18:07):
Half a bee, half five hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Ms, Yeah, cauf, I get a hundred mellion many a
hundred meters for like like for four years, that's twenty
five million. Yeah, Yeah, you're gonna lock me in. Man,
I need to have to be man. I need to
have how many years you'll do having be half be
man on some real stoke well Man right now mm hm,

(01:18:35):
I give I just see some years they won't lock
me in because it's like right now doing it had
to take me from everything I'm doing, and.

Speaker 2 (01:18:44):
Then like you will be exclusive whatever. It's like an
unproven platform, Like it ain't a platform, it's a new platform.
We got that five hundred from one of them Arabian
princes or some shit boom, But you're coming to build
a whole new platform.

Speaker 3 (01:18:56):
Would you fuck with them?

Speaker 4 (01:18:58):
Yeah? Half a bee it if I get I see
my ownership I got, we got to talk to talk.
I'm trying to talk have a big because I'm gonna
get hit with tastes for one. So I don't really
want that money and to come at one time. You
know what I'm saying, You got the but a half
a billion, I really be like, let's just use that

(01:19:18):
money to I really want ownership of that ownership. You
know what, say I take less with ownership because if
we got that kind of money, let's use this to
create some more content. Because you know my goal, I'm
finna build my own streaming service country money streaming service.
Yeah you're going, why I got streaming service coming, But
this is what made me do it. When I put

(01:19:39):
my movie. They want to own it. Like, man, I'm
finna build my country. Ain't streaming service. I'm gonna get
my people try five dollars and it's gonna You know
what I'm saying. I ain't gonna tell everything on here
because I know people listening. But the ideal I got,
I know it gonna work, and I know it's gonna
make some bills. They're gonna go back and watch this
in three years. The way I may have my streaming service.

(01:20:01):
I ain't trying to be big as the net filics,
but what's gonna be on there, it's gonna be strategic
specific in three years, man, I know it. It at
least make one hundred million a year, and.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
I know that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:16):
So it's like Versul gonna really have to give me
some money because they're not coming to get me. They're
coming to get my ideas. When I when I started
putting skits out without meeting, I told my boy Bread,
I say, I feel to make people fall in love
with my mind instead of me, because when you're a
superstar and they started falling in love with you, it's
dangerous as soon as you remove you. So what I

(01:20:39):
did on social media I stopped being the main person
on my platform because I realized that the game ain't
for you to get big. Now I have to get
you want to a platform to be bigger than you.
Cauf you big something. If you don't feel like doing someone,
you got to be you know what I'm saying. Like
when I was dripped, but in Wayne, they were just
on me. So that mean if I stopped, your algorithm

(01:21:00):
go down. But I eased, I eased Blake. I had
a girl, ain't Blake and Row. I did a skick
with them one day without me in it, and the
fans watched it. It took them a minute to realize
I wasn't in it. I said, oh my god, I
got them, and I started easing it, and I eased
Mike in and I eased back and I started writing
them those stores. Then when I was able to write

(01:21:21):
and I wasn't in them skits, it's like this what
a platform for?

Speaker 5 (01:21:25):
That's where the platform it ain't for.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
But I knew no content curators weren't gonna do it
because they got ego and they not gonna never move
out the way and let nobody shine. They gonna want
to stay the star versus me. I'm like, I like
the money, so I don't care, Mike. Right now, I
got Shayla do better than Huskis, do better than my
own on my page.

Speaker 3 (01:21:45):
I don't care.

Speaker 4 (01:21:49):
But I knew what we did it for. Yeah, but
I knew nobody else won't gonna do that because everybody
want to stay to start their page. Like, Bro, it's
called network. If it's called it's a nit work. So
you can't stay the star man. We don't, man, I
don't even know how Cocle cola. Look who owned Coca Cola.

Speaker 5 (01:22:08):
We don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:22:09):
In order for you to come a brand, you got
to get your face back off it. Because if I
would have stayed on social media myself, bro, and got
too big, they would have stopp following me. Because if
you get too big individually, man, they hate gonna come.
But you can't hate me, Mike, bread Shale or row
and all. I knew with the women anyway, you saying
some shit, I knew to keep me in the gage

(01:22:30):
because get you getting too big people. I'm like, Bro,
you're getting too much money.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
But and another thing off what you're saying, you don't
want the company to live and die off you because
anything happening you, anything you get out of this.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
Shit, you're trying to build some more people up that you.

Speaker 4 (01:22:50):
You don't slip the me in the right way, in
the right way because it's like really, to even be
able to do stand up, I had to build it
like this because it was either one or the other.
So I had to build it. That's why I stopped
standing up for me then a couple of years ago,
before I even announced it. But once I building, now
I could go do stand up, not go build my app. Now,
I go shoot a movie, because that's somebody in my clique.

(01:23:13):
Shoot some videos right now while I'm here, tear them shooting.
They shooting fourteen for me, for me today, it might
shoot the day. He probably shooting due. He probably shooting
twenty because Mike turn in shoot. Mike and Bread turned
in together by five hundred videos a month, five hundred
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:23:29):
Boy doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
I told her, if I went on here, I said,
I'm gonna be a fat man, I say, I said,
because I'm just proud of Bread because I met Bread
in the eight He was he was trying to do that.
He like he was done with DJ, like he left
something that he was big at and and now you know,
I know, I remember a lot of people. You know
what I'm saying. A lot of people were like A,
see his potential things, think he's gonna come back up.
But I told him, I'm happy like bro bro making

(01:23:56):
I payn bro making seven seven figures a year. Him
and Mike make itself feeling but them boy as working
them boys get it done. And they got people from
moving for they got companies. Mike got people shooting for him.
It's like it's just like the streets. You know what
I'm saying. You got here, you got chop house over there,
this person doing this. Man. I talked to everybody the

(01:24:17):
game and how to use your resources. So I think
when people think about content, they overthink it versus me, man,
my brother when I would drip that my real brother
T who ain't say nothing. I use my family first,
I use everybody. Rhyme mean, you can't act, don't say nothing.
So i't used to let Tea talk. You got them

(01:24:39):
drip like T how you feel head Hey, him in
real life can't talk. So it was like, man, you
know that's that social media, man, it's about building a
platform and putting other people. That's what every business about.

(01:25:02):
God wants you to put people on. But you gotta
have a heart to really do that, because that's who
he's gonna bless. Because I tell a lot of people,
I say, bro, he's some people on my team. I say,
y'all think I'm smart, but it's these ideas God given
me because God know I'm gonna give it away. I say,
y'all trying to post like me, and it's like it's

(01:25:22):
other content criers like Wayne, how you do this? And
now I say, bro, I don't know how I do it.
When God trusts you that you're gonna give it away,
he gonna give them ideas He knew I was gonn
give it away before I got it, you know what
I'm saying. So I make sure to like they. And
when I first started, everybody was saying I was overpaying
other content creates like you stupid. But now they stuck

(01:25:43):
in front of their camera. What happens is even when
you're streaming, they think streaming big, But how long can
you stream? Because that means you can't go do nothing else?
And if you get from in front of the camera
or your followers still gonna follow you so like everybody
like I'm streaming, like bro, Streaming is a young man's game.

(01:26:03):
We all remember we stay up in the club. If
I stream by people gonna watch me. Take a naut
like man, man, everybody man, alright, he thirty five up
and try to go streaming if you want. All right,
that's a young man's game because we used to stay
up all night. Remember, go to the club, come back, go,

(01:26:25):
go do what we got to do. But you don't
want to be stuck in front of the camera because
it's good to build up, but eventually you have to
remove yourself for the business to grow, because you gotta
go do other things. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:26:40):
What's the biggest gym? You want to get the people
on big facts? Man, it's a real game.

Speaker 4 (01:26:44):
Man, some real game, man. Man. Trust the one who
make the sky blow and the wind blow and made
you wake up in the morning is the real one.
And I promise you, man, if he woke you up
this morning, if you just trust him, man, you could
do something that you ain't know you can do. He
loved you just like and and stock compete against your
own people too. No, you know, look at the real

(01:27:06):
oppressors and go get with yours and know if somebody
woke you up this morning, gave you lungs and all
these creative things in our body. We got ears that
can hear. We got you know what I'm saying that
whoever that is, which is my God Almighty. You know
what I'm saying, which I believe in Jesus, whatever that is,
believe in that. And no, bro, that's your that's your gun,

(01:27:27):
that's your money, that's your everything, and that's more powerful
because that's one thing they can't recreate. Need to find
a way to create everything, but they can't recreate us
for real. So believe in yourself. Do believe in God,
Believe believe in the God got you with, and wake
up with that attitude every day. Don't and don't never
let nobody tell you that that ain't true, because it is.

(01:27:49):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Got Jawayne dropping big gems on Big Fast. We appreciate you, man,
I appreciate you pulling up.

Speaker 4 (01:27:56):
Just gave me a name. I'm finna copy y'all. You're
gonna shoot why you're just saying some of that you
always create, Big Jims. We're gonna start a side podcast
side big fake, be big jails.

Speaker 1 (01:28:16):
Let's do this on the basically, Bro, you're living in
a miracle, so just know anything it's possible, basically.

Speaker 4 (01:28:24):
Ship that's bro, what you just said. I want to
do it back all that. That's what I tell everybody
all the time. And would God give you a miracle
to stop trying to make it regular, right because I
tell everybody in my camp, I say, the problem is,
y'all try to bring regular rules in the miracle. If
it is a miracle, it's a hard work. Let it
be a miracle. And when a miracle, you're gonna overpay overeat.

(01:28:48):
I mean you're gonna you're gonna get more than what
you're supposed to do, you know. And and this you
get what you're supposed to do. And this way every
day like Christmas. What's next?

Speaker 3 (01:29:00):
Yeah, Yeah, Country Wayne, big Fact.

Speaker 4 (01:29:03):
Make sure y'all check out that special Yeah mar Man Nostalgia.
It is the realist. It's the funnest thing I got
and it's for us. And I don't know which camera
I'm looking at, but March twenty third, Country wayn't touched
that stage. You gonna know why. I'm the funniest thing
out here. And it ain't nothing, ain't nothing can touch
the people's soul like me when it come to comedy,

(01:29:24):
because I'm still with the people, gonna still with myself.
March twenty third, Nostalgia Your country. The country was in
the a coming out with the Red Sue and NEPI.
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