BIG FACTS FLASHBACK w/ DAVID BANNER

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big Bank. What it is You don't be on nothing,
I be on okay, So let me ask bring you
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
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Speaker 3 (00:14):
From the Coach eleven, ATL It's time for that Big Facts,
Big Bank.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
What up baby, J What up?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
DJ scream, I'm here welcoming today the one and only by.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Hi the Man.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Yes we got him here, David all big.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Say something before we start off, Man, I'm proud. I
am all y'all. Man. I watched all y'all involved.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Bro, you're looking good, man, and I've just been watching
how your perspective, man, in your mind has been evolving
over time, bro. Like and for you to do that,
and for you to do that in front of people,
those people that come from the background that we come from, Bro,
they not comfortable with that, and that's real manhood.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm proud of y'all. I appreciate man. Like I'm looking
at the studio. I'm watching you know, you know in
a different I have I have, I got.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
You know, Bro, we me and you have like talks
to our talks, our talks every time we get an
opportunity to about family. It's crazy because this is this
thing with viral about me wanting to be married and children?

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Bro have I always not wanted for sure?

Speaker 2 (01:37):
And and the crazy thing I put a song out
on the guidbox that said, marry me.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Always wanted that. You know what I'm saying, and bro
for you.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Know, to watch you all evolution and I just want
you to know what what took me so long to
come on the show was that I realized that artists
have started selling out in a different way that people.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
We don't know, right.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
People think selling out is selling out to the man
or you know that has something to do with money.
But they have reduced artists. People your music is free now.
They don't even think music is worth it, no matter
how much money you spent on music, how dope it is.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
They want to know who you having sex with.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
They want to know who your mama is, where you
are at all times and right, and we're giving it
up on different platforms and not even know it. Like
everywhere that you go, everything that you're doing as a
black man in America.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
I refuse to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
So it's like, think about it, man, think about this, y'all,
really think about this. You can't name too many things
that's connected with hip hop that has something positive to.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Say about hip hop, think about it.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Rappers don't like rappers, hip hop blogs don't like rappers,
Like don't know, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Most people in the world don't like rappers no more.
It's like it has turned in on itself and our
people have allowed that.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So for you all to stay who you are, man
and to be successful, to have big TVs.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
White in fact same time, let me want you all
to know I'm proud of y'all. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
So, look, I want to start this off right because
even though like your household name and a worldwide figure
and your philanthropy like eminently precedes you, there may be
some people out there that aren't familiar with your.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Background and where you come from.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
So I want you to just talk about how it
was like growing up in Jackson as a black boy,
black man, because I know a lot of people have
seen like different movies like Mississippi Burnings and you know,
the likes of that sort, but they don't really know
what it was actually like to be down there and
experience that in real time.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Being in Mississippi was probably the most beautiful thing that
could have happened to me.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
In my life.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
One thing that I tell people all the time, my
favorite type of white person on this planet is a
white person from Mississippi. All I ever wanted from anybody, black, white,
alien is the truth.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Can I say, fuck, of course is the truth.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
And so like in Mississippi, if a white boy don't
like you, he'll try to kill you. If the white
boy like you, he'll die for you. So at least
you know where you're staying. Like, if white boy in
the hood in Mississippi, you.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Know he staying though it ain't no question. And there's
certain lines that you don't go across.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
And I would rather that than you sit next to
a white boy for forty years and then they soaking
your pension up and then you were retired, you don't
have no money, and he's just smiling in your face
for forty years. So like, Mississippi was the most beautiful
thing in the world because it gave me this harsh
truth that some people, especially some white people, didn't see

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until Trump, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Like I remember, I remember, I remember being on CNN
and this.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
White lady was talking and she was like, yeah, it's
been a bad couple of months, and I was like, man,
it's been about five hundred for black folks, about five
hundred years.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Yeah, it's been a five hundred done for us.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
And she was like, ugh about it that way, you know.
So for me, Mississippi was beautiful. Mississippi taught me about
all the things that people front on about the South.
People talk all of that stuff, but they want more land,
They want healthy food. Look at how they're playing with
our food. You feel what I'm saying now, people want
to be in Mississippi. They want to be in South Carolina.

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They want to move to Tosa, Oklahoma.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
They want to move like like they give us these
wrong pictures about Africa, but that's what every continent on
this planet is trying to move in and trying to
co op all of the places where our people are indigenous,
where the most sun is and the most land, the
healthiest people to find women.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
You know what I'm saying, what say like the woman?

Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yeah, And so it's like Mississippi and fair Cohn told
me this, Like Mississippi is you even look at the
Mississippi River running, it's like now river in Africa, Like
that's the closest thing that you can get to the motherland,
and so you know that's going to be the place
that's going to be the that's going to be co

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opted the most. You know, That's why I look at,
you know, Mississippi and South Carolina as those places. And
if you think about if you think about the Civil War,
if the mother Folks would have won the Civil War,
Mississippi would have probably been you know, Jackson probably would
have been in l A And you know New York

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or what the East Coast would have been considered as
would have been in South Carolina. And if you look
at the two main slave ports.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's what I was just getting ready to say. So
and from the ancestral standpoint, yeah right.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
And so you know, for me, unless your parents came
from the islands, you got to give it up to that.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
Yes, you got to give it up to that.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
And I'm so proud that God gave me an opportunity,
especially being someone who cares about black people the way
that I care about them. And I'll tell you all this,
I had to realize something and it's almost to the
contrary what we talked about before, but I think it's
important for me to say, if our people knew how

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to treat us, and I'm speaking about Big Facts and
David Banner, right, if they knew how to treat us,
then nine times out of ten they would know how
to treat themselves. And if they knew how to treat themselves,
and they wouldn't need us. So a lot of times
we get upset because our people don't understand.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
But that's why we were sick, and that is part
of our job.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
But not to the point where we put our lives
in our legacy and detriment.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
I learned that from you, sir.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Yes, I gotta they gotta start with us.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
We we we love our people, We love the people,
but you gotta take care of yourself when you want
to be here.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You play Jesus and wonder why you always end up
on the cross. It ain't your job to say the world.
You're just supposed to get a message.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, yeah, this point, at this point, at this point, man,
you know what, we like to pop it on big
fast too. So before we get there, man, let them know.
Like obviously you had massive amounts of hit records. You
know what I'm saying, Like hit records from a production standpoint,
I think, yeah, massive, you know what I'm saying you

(08:35):
you you've been on the big screen killing it.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
You know what I'm saying, A war word, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
But but but you know, for everything that all of
us have accomplished here, Like it's like when you wake
up now, like what drives you?

Speaker 4 (08:54):
Like, what's your sense of purpose? What's the next thing?
Like what motivates you?

Speaker 1 (08:57):
Now? Children?

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (08:59):
I want I want to family.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
I really believe that the reason why we're put on
this earth is to replenish God's.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Just just replenish God.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
And I think if we wanted to see God face,
it would be all of our faces together. And I
believe that I fail if I don't allow my DNA
to continue, Like how may ever come back? The way
that we really come back is through I see through
our children, you know? And I had it saying, bro,
I've chased my dream so long and so hard that

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when I finally raised.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
My head, I realized that ran off and left everything else.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Because think about it, if you got one hundred percent right,
that's all you got is one hundred percent, and you
get ninety percent to your hustle, you're gonna be a
shitty father, You're gonna be a shitty friend, You're.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
Gonna be a shitty everything else.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
That's why most of the people that we say that
we like, you.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Know, in basketball players and rappers and all that kind
of shit, they assholes because.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Most basketball players don't.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
Know how to fight because they was always shooting a
fucking jump shot unless they, you know, was down they
getting rebounds, something.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
That most of the time they don't know how to be.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Most of the time, they don't know how to be
good fathers and good friends because they were always on
the basketball court. I was always under the drum machine.
I was always hustling. Nobody ever noticed this. Think about
my twenty year run, Bro. I was producing at a
very high level. Think about it, Chris Brown, mawoom five,

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Lil Wayne. People don't even talk about that shit when
you put your actual name David David David Banner.

Speaker 1 (10:38):
Before a beat, think about that shit.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Right, production my own albums at the level that I
was putting out. I don't know if it's still the
highest paying deal that wasn't a.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Label deal came to David Banner.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
So you got to think about nia's David Banner, right,
then politics.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Then acting speaking. I never fucking took a break.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
Yeah, I didn't take a break until I literally had
a physical breakdown. And what's crazy about that? People stay
don't give a fuck, They don't. So what I realized, man,
is that you can't make anything your God but God.
And I ran so fucking her that I looked up
bro and hadn't talked to my friends, and I realized

(11:24):
that I had to go apologize to my friends because
I used my fame as an excuse for them to
be there when I had time.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
And that's fucked up. Yeah, you know, and because.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
These successful people will play that game with you, inspile
in front of you. But that shit don't feel good.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
You know.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
I didn't have a sustainable relationship, couldn't. I was always
in the studio or on set. And we got to think,
when you shoot movies, you live in you know, maybe
in Arizona for two months, when I'm in New York
for two months, in New Zealand's for two or three months,
depending on how big the production needs, right, right, and
then still trying to learn that shit at the same

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time because.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
We don't we don't, we don't understand the business of
the game.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
So having to learn the business by a million dollar mistakes.
And you know, bro, I was homeless, I was sleeping
in my van when I got my did so having
to learn that shit at the same time.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
You got to watch that accountant and accounting when is
with the lawyer, and the lawyer is playing with management
and they all running you in circles.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
And now we don't have sustainable we don't.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
Have sustainable so called fame. So it ain't like you're
gonna get.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Another opportunity at that level to make that mistake the
same way, so you can even take advantage of it.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Yeah, you know, it's not it's one thing you just
said you were saying about just like playing the scene
and everything. It kind of I'll be having my mixed
opinions about the whole lebron thing and his son, like
let your son kind of do his own thing. But
do you do you think that that's how we should
do it, maybe more as black people that just put

(13:01):
our seeds straight in position nevatives nevotism as they call it.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Yeah, well, hell yeah, hell yeah, because every other race
of people do it. Well. It's so funny how they
keep it right.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
No, I'm just saying, that's how they keep it right,
That's how they keep it back, pass it out.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
You trained for this.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
This is what I was that handicapping them. I guess
that that was my mindset at first.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
You have to do what's in our jeans.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
Yeah, yeah, but I don't think like.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Me personally, not not a cut. I'm sorry. I don't
necessarily look.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
At it as a handicap, but I do see where
it could be viewed as.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
What's the word I'm looking for?

Speaker 5 (13:44):
Like, I don't want to say, not giving them a
chance to choose their own destiny, but it's kind of
like like not allowing them to be free.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Part of part of black people's problem is we give
ignorant people too many choices.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Yep, like you know, don't know nothing, You don't know
what you do is because what ends up? Look about
all of us. My dad, my dad was he was
the meanest motherfucker on this planet.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Ninety eight percent of the stuff my dad told me
was true, thank you. He just didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
How so much shit but everything, Like I said, people
ask me all the time, if you could talk to
your dad, what would you tell him? And I would
either tell him you right or I'm sorry. Fuck like
all of that knowledge, all of that information. We usually
don't start listening until we about their age, and then
we pissed it all the way all that. See, that's

(14:43):
what America tries to get us to do. If that's
the case, then the president would be younger. See America
lets us do certain things so that we can stay
in these boxes. But they don't do that. In the army,
they don't do that. And the things that mean the
most to them.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
We'll men have said it the best.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
He said that it is my job, he said, He said,
it's my job to He said, I am the boat.
My child is the arrow. It is my job to
point my child in the right direction. Now, as my
child gets older, they have the power to wield the wind,
and the wind can take them where they want to go.

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But I even think about my dad in music, it's
like my dad didn't My dad said, boy, you should
be a banker. But I was reading on in the
third grade. I was reading on a junior level, I
mean a junior college level. When I was in kindergarten,
I could count to a million like easy.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
And so my dad was like, you're smart, you should
be a banker. But he didn't understand.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
Until I brought a seventy thousand dollars check home from
from an independent distributor, and until my mama told him,
like that, boy, make ten dollars a CD.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
He get a CDs for a dollar, he said, on
it he made said I was selling at the time,
like seven in the eight to nine cities an hour.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
My mom she did the numbers for my dad and
showed my dad he make more money than you. He
was like careal.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And so when I brought that seventy thousand dollars check home,
that's what my dad told me. My dad literally said this,
what the fuck are you doing? Why are you standing there?
I was like, what do you mean? He was like,
you mad this much money rapping? Why fuck you ain't rapping?

Speaker 1 (16:23):
Now? Dad? Serious? And that's the video, dame. He told me.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
He was like, b I don't even know if I
shouldn't do this music shit no more, it don't make
sense monetary. I can sit in my house doing something,
all right, love, and people.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Just want to watch me do it. You'd be a
fool if you fucking didn't.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
So so, So, to answer your question, directly if we
have the opportunity to put out children.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Think about this, if we if.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
We start here right, and we make it here, but
we get an opportunity to put our children or at
least allow them to start here, why would they want
to do something else when they already are right here right.
The problem is, and I actually researched this, I did
research on this. The problem is is that we take

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the pain from our children. The pain is what made
all of us who we are, every one of us.
You don't take the pain away from the children, you
take danger from them. And that's difference. Like I was
just watching this Kenny Kenny Smith was talking about one
of the biggest families that's in plumbing.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Before any of the children can get any of the
higher level money, they got to be a plumber first,
and the father told them, you need to know every
aspect of plumbing.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So that if anything happened, then you know how to
do it.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
If if the perman go out in our bathroom, right now,
you know how to at least do that. So what
you do is you don't take the pain. They gotta
go through the.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Ship, and if they're too lazy to go through the pain.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Then fuck they little ass they deserve it something it
ain't for them.

Speaker 1 (18:15):
I told you knew me. Even if it's my child.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
If you're a lazy fuck, you deserve your sister gonna
get it dead or some other kid got deserved. We'll
just put something in the contract that said that some
of their money gotta revert back to your children, and
hopefully they won't be lazy fucks?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
Is that a little you don't take the pain out there?

Speaker 2 (18:36):
What they said in the Bible spared the rod quickly Virginia, yep,
spared the rod quick quicken the child to the grave,
or spared the rod in what spoiled the child?

Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yep, you gotta put that rode on.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then that's round the pony day when you when you're
I'm just saying, like, even even though I said, like
your kid, it's a number.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Your can college say you you mentionedly abusing them.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Before, Come pick your ass up and you get your
little ass in there.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
They have the nightmarees about that, like the kid different
the day man.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
The kids are different because we allow other people to
raise at you see she think about this. We are
we are some we are we are some few people
on this planet. Who allow the same people. I say this,
and I say this about religion, I say this about business.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
They didn't want you on earth. Why would they give
you the key to heaven?

Speaker 2 (19:34):
The number the thing that makes a powerful America is family.
So while they why would they let you build a
good family. They get everything in slavery to keep you
away from a family. That is the main thing that
they did. So why would they let you really raise
your kids?

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Right, So if you if you if your kid depends
more on the system than they do on you, then
who controls your children?

Speaker 1 (20:00):
The system?

Speaker 2 (20:01):
This ship not hard what the system is though? Come on, man, America,
I'm saying what you feel like, what you feel like?
The system stand off white supremacy. It's easy in which
way and just making sure that white people stay in
the position of power and able to control resources, things
and people.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So do you think they deliberately tear down power for
black men? Of course, what wouldn't they?

Speaker 2 (20:24):
They always said, that's see, I don't I don't talk
about things I think about.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Just go look up Corantel prone what is it pro
like the government did it? You can go right now
and look at files and the government will send it
to you.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
Patrice the Mombas family shit me a whole government file
that was released by the American government talking about all
the things that they did to Patrice the Mover. It's
that's one of the reasons why they don't want us
to read certain books. They don't want us like, how
are you going to tell us? I never understand, and
you're tricking me into it again, y'all. I told him,

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come on here, polinical No, but but but he said
that's important to him, which is important. But No, it's
government found Look at what they did to Malcolm and Martin.
It's one of the things that we have to start learning.
And it's the same thing with cops killing black kids.

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Until we convince our people that it's a systemic problem.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
We take everything by case. Oh this is the case.
This is just a case.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, this ship is happening together. This is fier wheal right,
But what I'll tell y'all is this, man, I am
at a point in my life where I don't even
think about white people.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
I don't I don't think about nothing but us. We
spend so much time focused on.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Other people that all we got to do just think
about this I say this all the time. If everybody
right now that tuned in the Big factors went to
David Batta dot com right now and about anything, I
got something from one dollar to two hundred and fifty.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
If everybody how many followers, y'all get about.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Approximately couple hundred thousand social media, But more collectively, damn
there a million collective.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
So if everybody paid one dollar, I can make a
movie with a million others. If everybody about the goudbox,
that's two hundred and fifty, that's two hundred and fifty
dollars to get.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
How much money that is collective?

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Really a collective movement of people who are just not
free loading. Most people just want our information and we
got to go to sponsors in order to get our money.
But you getting it directly from us.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
How damn?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
People want music and you give all of your money
to Spotify. I spend one point five million dollars on
positive rap music. Don't nobody give a fuck about that shit?
They get ay money that they give, they money to Apple,
and think about it, we give them to tech companies.
I wouldn't even be as emotional if we would give

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it to music companies. Most of these companies, music is
the last thing that they care about.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
Go on Apple page. That's the lest and that's the
thing black folks care about the most. And if you're
gonna give your money to people who don't give the fuck.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You say, music is the thing that they care about
the least, think about it.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
They sell computers, yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but
y'all running the money over that of Apple right now,
don't even give a fuck about it.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
We give all of our money and music me in
the world of black folks.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Yeah, and we spend frivously. And that's what I told
y'all before.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
We give our constituency to people who treat us more
like elite white men.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
What you think about artists selling their catalogs then, like
selling like cashing out?

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I don't really care, Like to be honest with you,
I don't care about what no other person does.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Like to me, that's so cabin like.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
If a person want to sell, they they catalog they
want to sell whatever they want to sell.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
That ain't my big I don't know.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's hard to say with you and do it to
a person present ity and the difference between me. That's
sort of like how I told people. You know, I'm
the biggest proponent for independence, right but in my particular case,
signing the deal wasn't nothing better than that for me
because I had a bigger play. I knew I wanted
to be a movie star. I knew that if I

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with the fame that I can get the money. Money
ain't never been no problem to me, like money like
leaves on trees. That's why I dressed the way that
I do. That's why I act the way that I do.
I can be free because I know how to go
and get money. I would always like to do some
of the things that I have to do in order
to get money.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
But the truth is.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I know what people want from me. You know, I
knew that folks would go like Missouri. I do that
without feeling like my soul was being split because I'm active,
But like, that's where the.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Fucks come from, you know. And and some of that
stuff wasn't on that page.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
That my.

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Cousins.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what I'm saying, That's what we come from.
And we got to stop letting other people.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Like all that.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Like, bro, it's so funny, man, how the ship that
we do the best people won't even just let us
do that, Like, leave me the fuck alone. You can't
tell me nothing about it. I made like a feel
be clear, you feel me. It's not always and Tasha
Smith taught me this. It's my responsibility, y'all because those
our uncles, our cousins, our aunts, and I watch how

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we tear each other down. It's so crazy, bro, Like
all of us got friends, cousins or ourselves that we
didn't hustle. We got cousins that it whooped on, our
aunts aunts that are cheated on our.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Uncles, right, and we have accepted them for who they are.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
But we can't accept our people for who they are
and show some fucking humanity.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
It's almost like.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Bro, if you look at a lot of those pictures
when black folks was getting home, you had black folks
on the side looking at that ship the same way
white folk that was. That was the entertainment, pitting it,
picking it.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Hold on, man, that's what they need. That's what they think.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
That was entertainments. And most slave hands. What color did
the people have on it? Think about it.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
They had on white.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
You want to know why they just fucking got out
of terch. That's what they get out the church, and
then the thing I went to a I went to
a hanging expos Bro.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
Where they it was? It was a museum exhibit. Bro.
Do you know a lot of those pictures?

Speaker 7 (26:41):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Guess what they were?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Fucking postcards from the United States Post Office.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Dog, we have always been there, fucking entertainment.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's why they don't want us to have But how
the fuck you don't tell us not to read a
book about something you did to us. I can understand
if it was something we did. You what you fucked
over me, you beat my family family. You don't want
me to read a book A list of history books
that they try to get out of schools. Oh yeah, bro,

(27:12):
Oh it's bad and we're worried about beef were on.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
The internet though it's still gonna be on the internet
of Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:19):
But you know, like in schools, it's it's a part
of well, previously it's been a part of the total
curriculum of.

Speaker 1 (27:26):
The history of the United States.

Speaker 5 (27:28):
But what they're trying to do is basically whitewash that
particular section of the history so that it doesn't it's
not taught as curriculums, so that people younger than whatever
age that has already graduated and all that kind of stuff.
Aren't aware of the ship that we've been through previously.

Speaker 1 (27:48):
They're trying to what we don't understand.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
Niggas were created, We did not come off those boats,
so we as indigenous people were not niggas. Niggas were
experiment that white people would have never thought that would
have worked.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
So good.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Nissons is just like crackers, bro. It ain't nothing but
ignorant motherfuckers, bro. And in our cases, it's not ignorance
because we chose to. It was ignorance because it was
kept away from us. You would hang from a tree
if you knew how to read. You feel what I'm saying,
because knowledge is knowledge and knowledge is true freedom.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
If we knew how to escape, we would have a
lot of times we didn't escape us. We didn't know
the grounds if we knew how. And that's the thing
about all of the shit music contracts.

Speaker 2 (28:30):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
You are a slave to what the fuck you don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
So if you don't know that the reason why black
people act that way it got a lot to do
with other people and not you, then maybe you wouldn't
act like that if you knew that medicine, and and
and and and and.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Mathemax was created by black folks. You wouldn't think that
shit was hard. You created mathematics, So how fuck is
it hard? You built pyramids? How the fuck is it? Hardt?
You know the big old facts? Say anything else?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Hey, So let me ask you something. And I heard
you quoting out the Bible. So how accurate do you
think the Bible is if it came from them too?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Man, I'm not gonna get off of the black folks
in the Bible, use sir. I'm learning.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
The old.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Nikes living alone. Don't talk about to figure it out.
I'm gonna tell you this though. Go ahead, I would
tell you.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
How Why would you trust a man that didn't love
you heart to giving you ka heaven? Why would you
trust the youngest race on this planet about God? We
were the one that talked to them about Monothis in
the like why would we If you are going to
say that you something, then if you care about God,

(29:53):
God is supposed to be the thing that matters the most,
then why don't you go and read the original script
and not how they translated. White people have never touched
anything on this planet and not corrupted and they will
tell you that history shows you that their history shows
you anyway they touched, they have totally decimated the culture
of those people. So you come from God, directly from God,

(30:17):
if even even from a biblical standpoint.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
When they were.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Looking for Jesus, they went to find Jesus in the
middle of a bunch of black folks.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
So Jesus looked like you.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
So why would you go to a white person to
find out something that you are. I'm not saying that
Christianity is not the way.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
That's not my place. But what I will say is
that God is omnipotent. God is everything. How dare you.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
Let somebody who have taken everything from you give you
the key to God?

Speaker 1 (30:44):
And I will say this, I know what Jimmy tells.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
You, dude, as think about this. I'd you think about this.
Black people in this earth. Indigenous people ran this earth.
Whatever you want to say, we are mores. We argue
over the things that don't matter, like whatever we are asking,

(31:11):
whatever you say we are, we ran this whole earth
as soon as we came in contact with whatever that
they say.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
That we believe in.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Yea, Historically we did this. Yes, So I think that
Jesus pain to direct you. So if you stay in
a constant feeling of pain, and let's God tell you
to move in a different fucking direction. But I don't
blame pe they tell you will go to hell forever.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
God made you a sentient thinking being.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
So if God wants you to challenge him or her
or it or he'll be like a fucking dog, wouldn't
be no need.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
You'll just be programmed like a computer. But like it
ain't right and it don't feel right. I'll show y'all
this and then I'm gonna move on. Yeah, because I
got a question I.

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Need to ask you watch this follow up to that
when little of the kids, I believe that the closest
thing to God, children.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
And healthy And I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Just asking the question. I'm I'm David Batters, not answering this.
I'm just asked, what do children do.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
When they go to children?

Speaker 4 (32:27):
Right?

Speaker 1 (32:28):
And whatever? Man closer to God? So why wouldn't that
pay attention? Well then whatever, I'm not saying nothing. I said,
what's the question? Follow up? I had another question, a
right fight not on peacock to then yes, yeah, make

(32:51):
sure y'all go get that.

Speaker 2 (32:53):
I'm gonna say, like, when you think we come from
originally like just people, so humanity, where do you think
humanity come for us? So this is what I think.
This is my opinion. I think that we all came
from one place that's closest to the sun.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
And as we wandered away from that place, the further
we went towards cold areas.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
Think about it, we evolved.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
God made us to eva, so that's when we started mutating,
you know. And the further that we got away from
that place, depending on how far it was away from
the sun.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
That's how our body adjusted to survive.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
So I really think that we are the original people.
And I'm not saying then something else didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I read up and study on an Anaki and different
stuff like that, but.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I have different perspectives.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
But just if we're keeping it here and not bringing
in any other thing, just the further that we got
away from whatever we consider the motherland is the further
we got away from the sun. Further we got away
from good land, good things, good people. The more harsh
environment became, the more harsh we became as a people.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
Think about it.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
The people that like if you study people. You take
away the emotions. Most of these people who are the
most treacherous, they live in the cold, so they ain't
got time to play with you. If they don't, if
they don't plant at certain times.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Get serious, even right here in America, the coldest places,
it's cold for real.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
They gotta get it most fus like like like like
fight Nick Grandmama for some money.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
Sell it.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Just need to hear that.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
But what I'm saying is is that you know, we
we evolved and to a certain degree, I guess we
were sensed in certain ways.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
So that that's just my my, my, my personal opinion.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
I'm a study. I continued, I continue to study. But
what what I do want to say is that we
just got to find a way to get back together.
I don't think there's gonna be a cool by y'all moment.
I think you got too many types of black people.
I actually want to write a book about it. If
you really look look at we get emotional. But this
is America is a lot closer to the plantation, and

(35:31):
you think it is. It's a lot of house niggas.
I didn't know it was such a thing as a
yard niggas that was right between.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You know, look at the nigga ain't quite made into
the house. He's a little bit better than the field.
And you look at you look at the music business yard.
Niggas are basically brown sand niggas.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
They not light sanding niggas or dark skinning niggas.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, I'm so still you ain't quite that executive.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Still out here, but you're not necessarily up like most
of this ship.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Bro. We were fighting to be up under people that
we don't have to be Like. We got there, y'all,
and we just really fuck with each other. Think about
just us sitting down talking even though it's for big facts,
it's for the show.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Look at how much came out just right here.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Yeah, you know, I mean if they still hurt some
of the other things that I'm doing.

Speaker 4 (36:35):
But I mean, all right, you gotta be yourself hard?

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Is this what I'm saying? How hard is it to
try to wear a hat that you can't fit?

Speaker 2 (36:46):
You know what I'm saying, Like, basically, you know how
you feel and it's really burning through your soul. You
don't want to say it because of things you got
going on.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
How hard is that.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
To do for you? It's hard? Because I've done it
over and over again.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
I built myself up, built myself up, and ran my
fucking mouth and told now, and people don't help you
build it back up.

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Yeah, talk all that shit. What it is you want
the man to go? Talk that ship that they feel?
So everybody want Jesus, they don't want it. They don't
want I think the story.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Of Jesus was Jesus came down to show you how
to bury your cross.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna come in the same
way that you come in, the same way. I'm gonna
show you how to walk on water. Remember with the
meals walking on water with Jesus, and they started down.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
And they started they did what they start sinking it right, Jesus,
I'm gonna come down here and show you. Black kids
in America are our across the bed. Ain't nobody else's
across the bill. Ain't no politicians gonna save you. There
ain't no one pill that's gonna help you. Get out
there and bear that cross, the truth, get out there
to do it yourself. You feel what I'm saying, So

(37:44):
like what I believe, man, is that it's a lot
of times I realized God didn't tell me to save nobody.

Speaker 1 (37:52):
It's God, John, God's supposed to save you. I'm just
supposed to get a message to keep you moving. If
I continuously have a harvest, and I.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Tell people this all the time, if I had one
piece of bread and I gave everybody in this room
a piece of bread.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Right, I'm gonna be pissed off tomorrow. But if I'm.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Selfish and build my bread up and create a bread store,
go and start being selfish enough to go on harvest
and platt and then build it up, then I can
give with the love and the grace of God. But
you have to be selfish for a long time to
build it up. Well, you can get to that point.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Our ego make us feel like we actually can save people.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Think about this, bro consistently for the last fifteen or
the last ten years. I've given my whole life to
just helping people.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
And I've used music to get me in a position
where I can help people. And then I give everything
and I'm by myself and have to build it up myself.
We didn't have these conversations, you know me, motherfucker ain't
came and checked on me when I.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Was down when I was fucked up.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
No matter how much I don't help hundreds of thousands
of people, ain't.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Nobody fucking help me when I was down?

Speaker 2 (39:06):
So if God keeps showing you how people will do you,
then I'm the fucking food to continue going down that road.
And I can't pray, I can't ask God and already
reveal to me. I'm the fucking food. Y'all in the
food from taking from me because I keep giving. Then
nobody telling me to do that shit. And I started
noticing when it's some revolutionary shit, when it's time to

(39:27):
get some shit.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
Popping, and they come to get David better. I got
a very specific friend.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
Who makes millions and millions of dollars, and I had
to tell him. I was like, bru call me when
Disney called me. You don't just got to call me
when it's time to get out on the streets.

Speaker 1 (39:41):
But people, people know and think about it, even our people.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
We know who to go to, who really there for,
and who's gonna show up in our neighborhoods when we
need them too. But when it's time to give, when
the people got projects, we don't give with that same
energy that we run and ask them for help with
we don't, damn And until we start putting it on
the everyday ordinary men, it ain't no football player's fault,
it ain't no basketball players fault, it ain't no politician's fault.

(40:08):
It is our fault as a collective and into the
everyday average person would realize their responsibility. It's easy for
you to tell this man who's sitting over here on
big facts that he should get half of his check
for something.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
But you got fifty cent, you gonna give a fucking quarter.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Malcolm Mark, we just talked about that, Huey P.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Knew, Name them all.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
I think about it. Let all the people suffer, They
let their family suffer.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
In this situation even more intensive. Being from the South,
do you think that amplifizes it.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Yeah, it does only because even because we still have
those thought processes on us.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
You know, even if you look at hip hop, the
way that people look at rappers and who the dopest rappers,
they ain't really got nothing to do with lyrics.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
That really got to do addiction.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
The more you speak like an English white man, the
better that you control the way that you use your addiction.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
It is how they look at you as as a
dope rapper. How the fuck?

Speaker 2 (41:21):
How in the fuck juvenile ain't considered as one of
the best rappers?

Speaker 1 (41:26):
How Like? Come on, bro, Like.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
If you don't talk like this and spit your versus
just like this, and they don't consider you to be dope,
like even Southern rappers the closest you sound to being,
you know, an English white man.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
It's how they and IT judge, and it judged your.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
They judge, They judge you even by lines lines that
don't even fucking exist. Like for me, Bro, being from
the South means everything you mean. Because one thing that
David Banner has shown, and I thank God for this,
that if I can make it, anybody.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
On this planet can make it.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
Do you know what people say to me from I'm
talking about some of the smallest places on this earth.
If your black ass can do it, for what the
fuck you did it? You were sleeping in that van,
you built a studio in your fucking van, and you
can make it, then I can get off my ass
and do it too. That's why God put this load
on us, bro, That's why I'm so fucking proud of y'all.

(42:30):
So you are to be able to take your platform
speak like we speak. That was one of the reasons
why I said I want you to go to Jazzy
Jackson Retreat, because that's the only thing that I didn't feel.
I felt like I was still fighting for that respect
that you actually don't need. If we get our people
and we can, we can group our Southern things because

(42:54):
our people still posity from.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Your ass it's almost gone, but you go to something
small that's still.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
That's real money and real power.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Hand the fucking hand so little.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
I have a question about a situation that was brought
to my attention, like earlier this year, being that you
are from Jackson and like from that area, what is
your take on the two hundred and fifteen bodies that
turned up behind the prison in Hines County?

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Like those, those type of questions are hard to answer,
and they're hard to answer because.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
I don't care where it is.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
If it's two hundred and fifty black bodies, dead people,
you know I care, right, everybody knows the answer that
if you know me, you are you already know the answer.
And what ends up happening is is you have to
be careful what you say because now, especially when I
say in hip hop news, people are looking for you
to say one thing to get a small sound bite from.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Right, I wouldn't be I wouldn't be sitting.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
The reason why I'm sitting here is because you know
I care, and the fact that it's from Mississippi or
happening in Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I gotta tallattoo it on my back. I care a
thousand more.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
But the problem is is what is the everyday average
person willing to do right?

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Because every time I run and put.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Myself on that cross and say let's go, let's go.
But real revolution comes from the street.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Up right.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
The only thing that we're supposed to be is a
mouthpiece for what the streets really feel. And the streets
have access to us and give us opportunity. And the
way that they show us that they care is they
are constituents with us. And so we are going to
make sure that you're powerful so that when we need
you then we can use you. But we don't do
that no more. Now these niggas will leave you out here.

(44:49):
Man that you get crucipiety.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
Dumby fuck talk about supposed to be essentially the foundation.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
Talk about because don't show up. But then when you
do show up and you get crucified in the man
that nigga was stupid.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah, bro, I did.

Speaker 2 (45:08):
With the greatest example of that. And I'm a directly
answer your question. People tell you don't cap, don't cap,
no cap, no camp, no cap, don't cap, don't cap,
no cap. Well, then if I don't cap, then you
don't know what the fuck I'm doing. And then you
turn around saying doing so I.

Speaker 1 (45:26):
Got a cap.

Speaker 2 (45:27):
If I don't cap some you ain't gonna know what
the fuck I'm doing. I'm always decided what the ship
did I do? But then you turn around be like, well,
I'm the reason why this happened. I'm the reason why
this happened. I'm the reason why. And think about this.
We talked about this from high school. Dog, Have I
not been the same person?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah? I was revolutionary high school. I was SGA president
at Southern University.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I told the motherfuckers at Southern they said, why you
don't wear a tie Because I wouldn't wear a tie.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
I said, don't you think there's been enough brokes around
black folks? Then?

Speaker 2 (46:03):
What at that video cut the music on. We ran
to kill Clutch Clay out of Mississippi. I threw the
Confederate flag back at the Mother Cross. I still know
my Queen's but bitches hit me to the game.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I'm twenty two. Don I know that we pimp God,
I know that we're wrong. God, I know I should
talk about more than dollars the songs.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
I know he is a miss I know I'm here
for a mission, but it's so hard to get him
with twenty two inch rims though. Listen, I said, And
it was crazy because Roland's song said this was the
dopest line of the year. They said, I'm from a
place where a flag means more than me. I didn't
even mean it to be that dope, but not them older.

Speaker 1 (46:40):
I look at the young men and be like, fuck,
that's hard at ship.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
I'm from a place where flag means more than the
Confederate flag.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
You know that means racism. And I'm at a point
in my life now, white boy, what is Confederate flag?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
That's because if you think about it, that there is
another aspect as as a perchance to their coach.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Yeah, put it on the truck, put it on your draws.
But that ship means death to me.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
And so if you're gonna use it as a simple
a symbol of a synthesis of people, of.

Speaker 1 (47:12):
A conglomerate of people. That ship means death to me,
it means racism. It means slavery. To me. It shouldn't
be a state flag. It shouldn't represent nothing but your
racist why person believes yes, exactly it.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
I ain't got no problem because if I want to
wear my red, black and green right right, that shouldn't
be a problem. And I'm gonna tell you what happened
when I started making those flags for the boxes. I
don't know what I would do if I saw a
white boy burning my flattering. So I say, if I
want them to respect my flag, and with my flag
stands on even though they're flag, my flag doesn't directly

(47:45):
affect them, we haven't done anything in them. But still
I have to give a human that type of respect.
Just keep your shit over there at your yarn.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
That's all I am to a certain next thing. But
what else do you want to I don't want anything else.
I was just I was just thinking, like, because it's
like for me, what you want to do about this shit.
It's not like, yeah, that's too but it's just.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Like for me like on a personal level, Like I
know when I heard the ship shout out to my
brother t Lewis. As soon as I heard it, like
my first thought was like I hit him like okay,
Like okay, So if I was to come down there
and like try to figure out like what was going
on and you know, try to put together.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Like an informational piece and this and that, blah blah blah,
like how like what will be the best way to
do it?

Speaker 5 (48:33):
And then like he was telling me, like the ship
down there is so deep, like you gotta be careful
where you poke around at type shit.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
So well, this is what I tell you, baby.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
Part of the problem is I don't think most people
I'm the type of person I want to do something,
I really really want to do something.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
Yeah, I want to do something. I can't say I
do something. I'm sick talking. That's one of the reasons.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Why I stopped my podcast, because I think it's too
many niggas talking and motherfuckers won't talk about shit they
know they don't know nothing about. It could be a
fucking uh uh uh nuclear It could be a nuclear explosion,
and everybody want to talk about.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
She's the nuclear whatever they don't know what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Like everybody talking about shit like staying in your lane,
whatever your lane is, be a genius at your lane.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
But everybody talking, And I honestly think we are at
warm now. Ain't the time to fucking be talking if
you weren't prepared, That's what I was telling you, Broy.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Haven't I not been talking about the same shit in
fifteen years twenty? Motherfuckers ain't didn't listen back then. They're
not gonna listen now.

Speaker 1 (49:46):
What's the biggest whipping Huh? Well, what's their biggest whipping
against us?

Speaker 8 (49:50):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (49:50):
They bron ourselves.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Brother. To be honest with you, I feel like, and
I'm still gonna answer your question. Yeah, I feel like.
I feel like we're butterfly as an empire.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
But they're playing with our food, they're playing with our education,
they're playing with our mind with these phones.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Bro, it's so much now. And the problem is is
that it's hard for us to even identify.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
You know, who really on our side because a lot
of these niggas is the biggest, bigger crackers than any
any white.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Boy you ever see, especially the niggas that are in position,
you know, and the thing is is that you got
different type of negroes bro like.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
It's so hard man like, and it's hard for me
as a person who who believes that he's a revolutionary
because unlike some white people, we gotta fight both sides.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
We gotta fight niggas and crafts at the same level too.
At least white people.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
At least white people can agree on the fact that
we black people are Indigenous people in general reproduce that
are rape that if white people don't do something, they
gonna die. So they at least agree on Okay, we
can have men, you can fight later on. But as
we know that we against them, right, a lot of

(51:12):
us don't even know that we would. And so it's
hard for you to fight, like totally fight for somebody
who nine times up till look at you as a
bigger enemy.

Speaker 5 (51:22):
So let me, do you feel like most niggas that
are in positions of power are puppets?

Speaker 2 (51:31):
I don't know, because what I also realized is all niggas,
all of them, are not I'm not gonna say smarter,
though they're not.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
Enlightened enough to even know that they won't. Some people, some.

Speaker 2 (51:45):
People were raised they family think about it our parents,
And this is a harsh reality.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
I know, Regaina, this is a harsh reality.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
But most of our parents would get along gang niggas
because if they wasn't, they be dead from a tree somewhere.
So most of us we just ended up listening to
hip hop or we bumped into something that that's what
hip hop did for me.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
You know, I tell us that X all the time,
who is daring? That's from Brand Nubian's.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
I got hold of Brand Nubian uh City and stopped
eating pork read you know, Malcolm X got hold to
one of the books that they are taken out of
the school from the broad and Files. I read the
fliers changed my stole it from my cousin. Ain't got conscious.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
So a lot of these negroes, they don't even know
that they sell out. They don't even know.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
Like some of these kids from some of these places,
their parents beat their natural language out there.

Speaker 1 (52:43):
If they don't speak like they from England, you can't
walk in the fucking house. So some of us, do
you know who?

Speaker 2 (52:53):
You know?

Speaker 1 (52:53):
Most of what? No, it's the biggest, the biggest breaker
of slaves with other slaves. So yeah, a lot of
times it was our parents that broke us. Yeah, we
don't even know that, can I can I tell y'all
quick spin they go back to the whole puppet thing
that I was talking about.

Speaker 5 (53:11):
But I guess that's proven your point about a lot
of the puppets don't even understand that they are one
of the biggest roles in our detrimental puppetry.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
A lot of niggas.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
A lot of the niggas say, a lot of niggas
feel like, Okay, get woke and know that I'm fighting
to fight against my people and these people right what
you what we just saying, So then they put you
on the side of being self like, fuck everybody, it's
about me. But so when you get to fuck everybody, niggas,
donna feel like your sellout because you not the nigga
trying to be a revolutionary or trying to speak for

(53:45):
these niggas. I can't say, y'all, niggas because that put
me on the cross because I'm willing to go all
the way.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
But y'all ready to turn out. And that's you just
taught me something. You just taught me something right there,
And that's why the shit is important. Watch this. The
person who's says that they're willing to do everything for us.
Think about how we look at a revolutionary. This is
the person who is willing to give everything for you.

(54:11):
He ready to let up, ready to go out.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Man, Man rapper that get everything that y'all say rappers
don't do, or you let somebody kill him.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
The one that came back to the hood. It took
care of the hood.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
You let that happen. We're supposed to We're supposed to
make a We're supposed to make a public example. Bro.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. It's us.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
That's when you hang a nigga. Well, that's the that's
that's that's that's ship. That's that's the simple. That's the simple.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
But what you mean you can't take it out.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Because because with me, gosh, yeah, under I know they
can't do that. Let's say, let's and y'all, I'm gonna
be real with you. I had I had to learn.
This ego makes you want to tell everything that you
know some shit ain't say.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Right, that's my problem.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
FU. If y'all noticed, I had one of the top
black lectures in the United States period, But you never
see any video from any of my lectures, because what
if we came up with the answer to clubs playing
and on Instagram? Government is conspiring against our children that
ain't on Facebook too, So why do we want to

(55:33):
do it in public? That shits stupid. If you really
really got a plan and were really about to get
some money, you ain't gonna tell everybody.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
That's what I'm saying. If we really that's what I'm saying, y'all,
it got to be a small group of us who
really about moving and really about because.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
One of the things that I don't like that we do.
If you really study most of these cats, look at
what they do. They tell you what they're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
They saying and they knew they're saying in their action.
They're saying in who they married, I see what you love.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
Like most of these politicians look at who they were
before they needed your fault.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
You're a fuck about black folks. I'm not emotional about
that shit. I don't care if it's an amen.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I don't do y'all know, some of the most revolutionary
people in history negotiated with the Klan. The Klan didn't
want black folks in America, and some black folks didn't
want to be in America.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
So if you wanted to get three million dollars for
me to get a vote, me to go back to Africa.
And I don't want to be in this bitch either.
We can tell sign me up. We are getting talked.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So it ain't about Democrats, oh Republicans. I don't give
a fuck about neither one of.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
The right wing left way. They part of the same
fucking bird. I say.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
Somebody said, nowhere do y'all know how many people are
running for president and vice president?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
But they only allow you to see two debates? What
if the Great.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Party got the fucking real playing? But we don't research.
And if we really want to do something about politics,
why don't we find somebody to be like?

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Okay, I really really I really really like big Chree. Yeah,
I really like what that boy we have, Cord. Let's
all pull our money together, because to me.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Politicians, if you ain't, if that's the money, it's doing
the whole bunch talking.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
I said about music, But let's raise Creed.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Let's raise him in a way. And you come from
our environment. It's some politicians, not all of them.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Some just don't know no better. They ain't never been broken,
so they don't really know how I understand what the
but im saying.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
So why not if we really care about this black
poles so vested all of a sudden in politics, why
not build your own person and get behind them. That
makes one democrat in recent history that got passed anywhere
without black folks. Betain none of them, not even when
you're black. Say what you're gonna do for your own people?

(58:19):
Come on, man, I'm not telling you what to do.
All I'm telling you to do is stay. I say
that after election. I don't care what you think about me.
Just stay and make sure that you tune.

Speaker 8 (58:28):
In to.

Speaker 4 (58:33):
Should we keep that support roll.

Speaker 1 (58:36):
Boys and message?

Speaker 4 (58:38):
But all that, all that is the answer to your question.
Like you said, what is the system? All of this
is the system.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Now.

Speaker 3 (58:45):
Music industry has a system, Politics has a system. America
has a System's various systems within one system, and they
are created.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
You said they killed Missouri, slip anywhere.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
No, But I will tell y'all man, it's it's it's
a harsh reality man to to to be a black
man in America that care. You know. That's what I
realized is that I thought coming from the streets. Coming
from an environment that I came from, I really thought
that I didn't give a fuck. And when I got money,
it gave me the space to see how much I

(59:26):
really do care. I love black people with everything that
I got in my body. I know where I'm from
everything in my body. And what I had to realize
is that my my therapist told me this. My therapist said,
you're always talking about the people, the people people, he said,
with you the people you black. I realized I don't

(59:48):
treat myself with and part of what I do is
I projected on other people and try to help other
people to make me feel better about myself. And the
real tr people treat you the way you treat yourself.
You think about the rappers who treat people like shit,
like dog shit ain't got the ones We play their

(01:00:09):
music the most. Some of their music is dope, but
most of it is more of a mentality. I got
more to you, you ain't shit. They really treat me
like white people treat you elite white people. Think about
this and and I got a little bit of myself.
But think about how most entertainments that are black, they
don't even sell themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
They sell an elite white car, elite white clothes.

Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
I want to know you, I want to know what's
inside of you, But they sell you everything but themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
And I figured out. I figured that out was doing
I found that I was doing the same shit. Think
about it. As a woman, people usually treat you the
same way you treat yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:00:52):
Whatever you insecure about, that's what they key in on
if you don't take no shit. I know some women
who saw one of the most dog g ass motherfuckers
on this planet. When she walks into the room because
she don't take that ship, she get the utmost respect, right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
So so, so the thing is is that we as
a people, we gotta treat each other better. We gotta
be kinder the stuff that we do. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Me and this man sometimes out of nowhere, Man, I
call him and be like, bro, as it pertains to
be in a father.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Now you my mentor because you had a kid before me. Bro,
talk to me, how is that ship?

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
Like I ain't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
I'm nervous about this, you know, and we have the
fucking conversations or anything. Bro, you call me and be
like Banna, Man, you know that system shiit Like, talk
to me about that ship. But we got to do
it on the phone, and you got to be like, bro,
it some ship that I don't know, Well, this is
what I do know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Let's figure this shit out together. But we talked about
the sit in front of cameras and as soon as
we leave them cameras cut out, we go back the.

Speaker 7 (01:01:56):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Yeah. Yeah, I just I just don't want them niggas. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
That just stuck between trying to God there be on
that cross for niggas man when the niggas, when niggas
already got a cross over here, and they back you
up for you. You know what I'm saying, Like, you
try to fight for everybody, bro, but at the end
of the day, they want to hang you too. So
what you do You create your own little bubble man,
and create your own little.

Speaker 1 (01:02:21):
Family first, that's the only way.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Now, you create your family, and then maybe they see,
maybe people will see like, Okay, that's what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
I don't think.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I don't think I can be out there trying to
do it for it, That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying,
like I don't know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
You said, you said, you said, put it all on
the line for some people.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Even certain shit I want to say, but Bro, you
already do it. I'm telling you, Bro, I'm telling you
what I see. Okay, Like, Bro, you bro, y'all answer
this question. When he first had on this bitch, first
start fucking with y'all, was he not a different man?

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Oh for sure? But but buddy, Buddy always had the
same heart.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah, make something that you don't have. But I just mean, Bro,
do you know how many people watch you peel them
layers off?

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
Like I know? That's how a lot of people looked
at me. Like I remember when I first got on
TV and told say that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
I was on high blood pressure pills. Do you know
how many thanks to hustling. I tell people that all
the time, all these so called conscious motherfuckers, they don't
fuck with me. They ain't never fuck with me. They
don't like me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
I make them uncomfortable because I want to do something.
And you know, a lot of my fuckers just won't talk.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
They don't want I don't think we should be talking.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
But man, a lot of cats to see me and
they're like, damn man, And you were comfortable enough man
to go ahead and start taking your pills and talk
about that ship in front of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
I know I can do it like bro you don't
know who to be watching broke, and the thing is
whether we like it or not. That's what I tell
people all time. No matter how conscious I am, niggas, bitches,
drug dealers, killers, they put me on.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
That's why I never turned my nose up to the
streets ever, no matter how conscious.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
That I get, have you noticed no matter how mad
I did black people, I always say, we never separate myself,
no matter how smart, how much money I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Got, because conscious people didn't put me on. Ribbedy rapperty
rapperty niggas. As much as I like rippany rapping, all
the type of the niggas don't fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
With me, no matter how dope my song is, no
matter how dope.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Death of the pop star, no matter how dope, no
matter how dope, did God box here my father's.

Speaker 4 (01:04:38):
Don't When people were listening to like a Pimp and
might get you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
That's why I hear playing girl pushing with top all
that shit they want to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I lost money every time I did positive music. Every
time you tell me, mother that spit that much money
on themselves the positive But what I know is at
least I can say that I try, right, but not easy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
It's easy for you to make them the records though,
like not the contryrecting the other rectors.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
That's see Washington, you don't like this. People don't understand
all this shit is simple. The reason why.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Lower vibrational ship or not so smart ship sales, it's
because there are more people who.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Are going to kindergarten then there have been that graduation
from twelve. Right, it's even less people who have a doctorate, right,
but even the doctor listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
So what we have to understand is, and it's no
different than Malcolms, some people want to be smart for
the sake of being smart. If you notice Malcolm X
had one of the greatest commands on the English language
and he never said anything the average man couldn't understand,
because are you trying to show me that you're smart
or are you trying to get me to understand? So

(01:06:08):
that means sometimes I have to dip back off into
some ship that I don't like, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
It it bothers me at a spiritual level. Reginia, how
many months have how many years have I had? The Godbox?
Two five years old? It's gonna as long as she
knowing that comet that ships so fucking hood.

Speaker 4 (01:06:35):
Come out.

Speaker 1 (01:06:36):
The problem. But the problem is is I know what
people want. I got a really good friend of mine
in DC who he having the same problem with with
with with with food. Like he cooks fried food, that's
what he's known for, but he eats now that he's
been conscious, now he don't eat like that. But he

(01:06:56):
know what people want. And that's the difference, man, like
an internal contelation. Yeah, probably eating them up to sell
that ship. You know that should eat you up to
sell it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:05):
Yeah, Like I couldn't get a restaurant right now and
see it Like so, I couldn't even do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:09):
Even though I know how to cook that ship, I couldn't.
I would had to try to sell it began.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
I'm saying something that resonates with you speak. I couldn't
do it, or you won't be able to sleep at night.
That's why, bro, and I was one of them. All
this damn money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
My cousin used to say it all the time.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Bro, you got morbles and calls and billions of dollars,
Why you ain't sleeping because that ship don't do nothing
for your soul. But I would say I much rather
figure it out with some money than.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
I'm just figured out in the house in my van
like I was before.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
But but Bro, I'll tell you this, man, and I
say this to everybody. When I started back sleeping, I
would have paid any of myny money, Bro, to just
get it. I'll sleep for the hour to night and
to beat his house out and can't. In Georgia, Bro,
I was living on the top of a mountain, literally

(01:08:07):
on top of the mountain. Couldn't shoot it up, you know.
So I always say, Bro, there's a way for you
to get money, Bro, And it agree with your still.
But the reason why it don't affect some people and
it affects others is because some people never have a
still like you just said about him, no matter what
he did in the streets, in his heart, he was

(01:08:28):
still a good person. And what money gave him an
opportunity to do. It's to find that when you ain't
got no money, he can't find you can't.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
And they know that we're animals before with anything, You're
going to surbody, right, m.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
We make some money, what's the money?

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
What's the money?

Speaker 4 (01:08:53):
Plays That's a good question. What's the money plays? What's
the money plays?

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Right now?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
I want to be a superhero, Bro, wan to do
a superhero fil and you've done that. There was a
young girl who came crying to her dad uncontrollably. Her
dad said, she's four year old, black, beautiful, dark skin.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
She said, dandy, daddy, Daddy, are they gonna be any
black people in the future? He said, why? She said,
because I was watching the just just since and I
didn't see me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Like some science fiction is then preparing us for a future,
and they usually don't have us any.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Right now, watch this, I'm gonna go even further. What Superman?
What few Superman power? Y'all know that kills him? But
on the s Superman is few by the sun? Right,
white deflects the sun. Right, white people are allergic to

(01:09:53):
the sun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Right, if Superman superpower was really the sun, he'll be
darker than the darkest night.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
He'd be darker than the darkness.

Speaker 2 (01:10:02):
Anything, Bro, because we absorbed it somebody. So it's how
I respond. A white scientist told me that there ain't
no way Superman white. So it's our responsibility to properly
depict that. Now, my second movie, I want to do
a movie. Us said, I want to do a movie
with Jill Style, a love movie, like a love Jones

(01:10:24):
type movie, and then they'd be like they be like
with David Benner, like you just said you wanted to
be in science fiction. Well, Black Love and America right now,
especially on TV, is scie fi. You damn don't see it.
So it's my responsibility, as fucking sexy as I am
right now to use this body and get another body
look good than the motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
And it ain't. I'm gonna tell y'all, somebody can like you.
Little er did not at all as much as I'm
in the jail. If I don't look good, I need
to go home. I'll set you to the good smell.
Did you smell me? Didn't? No, man, But for real,

(01:11:11):
I want I.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
Am going to do sci fi man, and hopefully our
children won't know a time or they want to be
a black mud right. That's crazy because really all the
superhero is showing you God and Corne and so they're
telling us we're not gods. Like as much as I
like Black Panther, that's cool. I only be no fucking cat,

(01:11:32):
only Superman. Little girls want to be fucking wonder woman.
They want to be the flash, the fastest in the world,
and they come from hero comes from hey ru from.

Speaker 1 (01:11:43):
Us the word hero. We are the gods? So how
we how dare we not?

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
My little brother Karan Joseph Valley is working on a
Black Superhero fan and y'all the last movie that I
was in, I played the god you shaw a picture
you know, you know, and it's getting.

Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
Closer and closer, and like, that's what I want to do.
I want to push my dream so fucking far.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
I want to show people like I maybe shouldn't say this, man,
but like I want to come back when I shoot
the field. Man. I want to do like an installment
where motherfucker walking the club and we didn't transfer up,
we didn't transform the whole club. Maybe hooked motherfuckers up
and they swing across the motherfucker club. Like literally, I
want to do ship because thick about it, bro and

(01:12:30):
Leona is supposed to be the media capital of the world,
but when you go to the club, you don't feel
that ship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Like when I'm in Europe and going to phone parties
and you know what I'm saying. I had an idea
one time to what's that the ninja what's the ninja shit?
The ninja Warriors.

Speaker 2 (01:12:49):
I wanted to do some shit because black people we
be so clean now we don't we want to get dirty.

Speaker 1 (01:12:53):
You can't get into the motherfucker club unless you do
some ninja shit. You gotta get the water jumps, like
I really want to fucking the lead the club be
like that aboundance. Something ain't right about it. Yeah, I
won't be able to have fun and something different. Dances again, smile,
do something, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:13:12):
I feel like you gotta just like he creates a
lot of the fun in Atlanta shit show. He put
me down with the Miguel Wilson shit the other day.
You know what I'm saying. You just got to find
the communities now and have your own fun with like
minded people. You know what I'm saying, because a lot
of people don't. They don't know nothing but sit down.
Not to not those people, but sit down and blow
a hookah.

Speaker 1 (01:13:31):
That's all they know. But we gonna do with y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
And again, I want to tell y'all man before getting
this man, how how proud I am and y'all and I.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Wouldn't have got into much political shit if it wasn't
for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
But I actually waited to come on the show because
I really didn't know what I wanted to say. For
a while, I had lost myself, I know, really what
my basis was. And the more because then I had
getting so much like no lot think about this, man,
Think about how we talked about this in the beginning
of the show. People don't talk about the level of producer.

(01:14:08):
I am Brown produced Quincy Jones before. People don't talk
about this shit.

Speaker 1 (01:14:13):
Why you think? Why you think that?

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
What you think?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
I think sometimes when you got people like, let's say,
I think there's no way for you to talk about
the top five and not put ice Cube in.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
I just think there's no way for you to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Like that dude with from one coat comment one coach
right all the way to another coach got them, get
got their producers. Then they confer that ship again like
right like, But I think what happens with black folks
is when they see that you all right and other ship.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
I ever give a greyer example. Damn, I ain't never
thought about how the fun.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
Is outcasts considered one of the top artists, did he
y'allah music, and you don't say they the best rapp
up they gotta be your best rap that you consider
them to be the best rock country and all that
kind of ship.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
The rappers this snow is and then you're just gonna
not say that he not his first.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
That don't make sense, but anybody. So I look at
it from the standpoint of people see that I got
so much other ship.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Going on, or he'll be all right. But what I
noticed as Southerner is we two nights.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
We never really want to took our spot, were too time,
like the West Coast when it took this ship, like
we still don't have that proper film depiction yet of
what we do right now. I'm gonna tell you what
I think it is about souven niggas being niggas just
feel like we can just get our paper. They don't

(01:15:53):
want to get into the politic the other side of
you know what I'm saying, this ship comes from.

Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
They started up north.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
Where's he that we got it. We're finna milk the
money out this shit, you know what I'm saying. Even
though we could have took it like took it. But
every time a nigga try to do that. We see
what they do and they crucify any niggas at the top.
But the truth is to go back to history. Bro,
it's us where James Brown from bro Like like like
like people talk all that, like I even go from

(01:16:20):
a hip hop perspective, Bro, Like, wh when we add
most people favorite hip hip hop producer, they used to say.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Primo, right, Primo prave you from Texas, from Texas, please
skip across that, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:37):
Like, if you look at Yourselfles, your semples are here,
it goes back to tell you how God work.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
We're just talking about God. The history. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Your people are from here, Bro, Your people and we
are from here, So there's no way that you can't
skip past your grandpast. Harlem is the South, Bro. I
lived in Harlem for six years. That's us.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
That's where the black people went to. That's the reason
why they happened. That's so much style, they got so.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Much crazy, like, that's what people, That's what I pet. Well,
that's why I love Hall them so much. When I
when I went to Hall of all my homies from
New York, it was like, I want you to go
nowhere else because because this feel like Mississippi. I don't
feel like Mississippi.

Speaker 1 (01:17:19):
To me, and so like we part of our problems.
We don't know our history. That's why Fight Night was
so important to me. Bro, Like when you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
See how important the Number Runners weren't the Don't Dealers,
weren't you Atlanta being what they are. But but you
can have white folks and they'll give you their scar
faces and their giant gotties and all of these different people.
But we throw away our history, a way out of
history as soon as white people say.

Speaker 1 (01:17:48):
That they man, come on, bro. That was if you
look even.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
About the history of Martin Luther King. I was sitting
out in front of pretty kid grabbed me and say,
I know you love history. He set me down in
front of a Citizens Trust's bank on Martin Luther King's
that when you talked to some of the ogs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
Yeah, and he told me his story.

Speaker 9 (01:18:11):
Bo.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
That was so powerful.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
Bro, I don't even know if it's my place safe.
It was so powerful, but he was like that og
sent me down there like better. You ever noticed that
Martin Luther King outside of his church never talked or
spoke in Lma like he did Birmingham and the other places.

Speaker 1 (01:18:28):
You ever noticed that and did you know why? Because
the streets told him, bro, you're talking to integration shit.
The Atlanta clubs was so popping that white folks came
from black clubs in Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
It was so poppy in the black businesses was so popping,
we didn't need them.

Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
So they told marn't you kid.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
You could talk that integration shit anywhere you want to,
you can't talk it here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
He did whatever he wanted to do in his church,
but outside of that he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
Speak because the streets told him that we will protect right,
we can take care of you, and you can't talk
that shit.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
You're gonna kill the black mood.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
And Martin Luther King didn't notice it to right before
he died when he told Harry Belafonte, I think I've
integrated my.

Speaker 1 (01:19:15):
People into a bron Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Yes, So all you gotta do.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
Problem is is that we don't study, we don't care
nothing about our history.

Speaker 8 (01:19:23):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
I will say this, there is no way in the
hell you should go to any of these towns where
you got legacy artists and not here history. When you
go to La you hear Dre, you hear.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
You go, even if it's instrumental, even if it's an
instrumental in the white motherfucking.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
Restaurants, you will hear try. Of course he'll hear run DMC.
You'll hear on New York. It should be the same
in the South's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:57):
No way that you go to Mississippi and I hear
no David Banner at all. That you come to Georgia
and I hear no Little, no pastor Troy, no outcants.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
No usher. You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
We we they have beat history out of us so
much that from a cellular level, there are certain things
that we don't like that we have trauma towards because
of the paying.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Mind. I mean, my femig, what you're saying is correct.

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
Like we forget about our people to fat and I'll
tell you and most of these people, most of the people.
It could be rapidly, could be anything, could be singles.
It could be somebody that just did something great before
we forget that their heroes too fast. And like you said,
like even the Gasters, evens live on, did.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
All the hard work live off. We're gonna say the
name is that not the reason why I told you,
why hired you. But may not be a big but
then she made me, but she got something to do.

Speaker 2 (01:21:03):
With our musical history, and I told her, I'm gonna
make sure that people know your fucking name.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
And when we was on our podcast, when people see
what do they what are? They scream to start my
podcast like that. And it's funny because I didn't even
mean to do it that way.

Speaker 2 (01:21:20):
But that's what I meant by fighting night for all
of them hustlers, all of them number runners.

Speaker 1 (01:21:25):
Bro all of them strip clug on it. It's one
in particular, But that's not my place.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
To talk to history because I'm outside, so I'm very
I'm very careful with me again trying to play Z.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
They said it else, No, But that's the hell of
a point.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Though even the gangsters like we don't celebrate the gangsters
that actually played it all the way gangster and told
them nobody ain't never brought this home room. We celebrate,
but we'll talk more about the niggas who tell you
know what I'm saying, will make you, will make you
known this nigga task, So we just that means ain't
nobody real. Woon't celebrate the niggas who actually stood up

(01:22:10):
for something and then get mad at the kids, because
the kids will gravitate more into the people that you
talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:22:16):
He kids don't listen to what you say. They look
at what you do, same thing. We told you.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Fuck what you talk about, nigga, that's where you spend
your money. I don't get the fuck about no Instagram.
I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
Where you spend your money. That you care about, who
you marry is what you care about. All the rest
of that shit is a whole bunch of bullshit. That's
that's the reason why I love these kids, even from
a revolutionary standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:22:41):
Look at what these kids do that we didn't do.
These kids don't talk about the white man. The white man.

Speaker 2 (01:22:45):
The kids say, no, John, don't that work at a
flipping Pancakes on fifty two sixty Bird Street. That's where
that motherfucker work at. Let's go get him and his job.
That's what I learned from these kids, almost specifically, who.

Speaker 1 (01:23:02):
Is the man? Let's stop talking about the man. We
understand that there is a systemic problem.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
We talked about that, and if there is a system,
but let's find out who exactly are those people that
go after they because we'll go after each other. Motherfucker,
step on your shoes, don't bring your dope back. We're
going directly to his house, so why don't we go
to their house?

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
And it was funny. White comedians said it a couple
of days ago. He was like, he was like, you know,
this is something harsh to say, he said, but.

Speaker 2 (01:23:31):
Slavery was kind of meat, and everybody was like why.
It was like white people, I mean, black people are
so much faster than us. They could have took off
and ran and we wouldn't have been able to catch them.
And then if we couldn't, but we would have called them.
They fight better than us. They could have turned how
to beat our ass.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
The fact that we control them was sort of need.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
And if you take all the emotions away from that,
we now have the ability to wake the fuck up.

Speaker 1 (01:23:59):
I say the same. Ain't about our diet. You ain't
no fucking slave no more. You don't have to eat
scratch from a fucking pig no more. You choose to
do that. And if you choose to do it, I
don't judge you. That ain't my place.

Speaker 2 (01:24:11):
They just do my bad cun't y'all. They just prepped
it up into chicken nuggets and ship.

Speaker 4 (01:24:16):
Now they just ship. They just piece that ship up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
When you make it. It don't look like marketing or they.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Or they play it in a way, or they play
it in a way they stick that it's something that
it was just a peak. Still that buship still chilling
and they're putting all the bullship.

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
But I told you, man, what those certain nuggets are
made out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Know what dolphins?

Speaker 1 (01:24:49):
No damn you no, damn dolphins on this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Man, that's that ship that come off the flow when
they cut the meat and the rest of the ship left.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Brand that ship up. Man put a flavor on it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:01):
Thing that they did with bashing the day when we
used to dream about liquor. When you know when they
talk about filtered beer, filtered beer the mat So that's
the piss.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Yeah, good beer. I had a whole boy who had
money and still drink that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
Ship reserved, steal something, go to tail somewhere. He was
still iceman that they put iceman in. So this is
what I tell y'all. In closing, again, I'd like to

(01:25:39):
thank you all for giving me the opportunity to speak
about ship that our parents used to die for. You know,
sometimes it is hard for me. I could have made
so much more money. I will say that I am.
I'm comfortable in myself now enough to say I'm a
fucking GM ain't much that out of touch that I
wasn't successful there. Right, I made certain choices to be

(01:26:03):
a certain type of man, and I'm proud of the
man that I am. But I refuse to let my
future children suffer. Right, I'm going to be successful. I'm
going to do what I was supposed to do, and
that may mean that I have to step away from
some of the things that I'm passionate about in order
to get what I know that I deserve. But I
appreciate y'all for giving me the opportunity to speak my

(01:26:25):
mind open door, because one thing that I am and
John Henry Clark said this one of the ways, one
of the ways that we can be free or get free.
It's just acting like the free, the fact that I
can come here and even if we don't agree with
each other, that you at least let me say my piece.

Speaker 1 (01:26:42):
And entertain my thought process trying to thought, or.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
At least let me get it out. That's originally what
my podcast was supposed to be wasn't in Virginia like
it was supposed to be, to be a place like
if a star got in trouble, we may not agree
with you become at least you can get your statements
out herem Bro. When they set Chris Brown up on
Good Morning America, Bro, that was one of the most
vicious things I ever set the song in my life.

Speaker 1 (01:27:07):
That wasn't right. It wasn't And.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
I don't believe that people have many places where they
can come and just be themselves. And I'm gonna say this,
you know, and I mean this, and I'm not just
going to fight back to fight because of what it
did for me. But you know, they try to get
us to play pimps, hustlers and dope dealers and all
that kind of shit movies because they think that we're

(01:27:31):
gonna make these people characters character tis and of our coach.
But it is my responsibility, because I come from that ship,
is to.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Give them you many.

Speaker 2 (01:27:41):
One thing about most people felt good about mostly, but
they knew he wasn't a fucking joke, Beach. I don't give.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
That's my cousin for a fucking rial. He said that
all get it out you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:56):
Get from back to see they trying to play us
with all this power, and that motherfucker me all the time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
Most of the killers that I know the coolest niggas
in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
Except they go from one to one miles and it
ain't no fucking middle ground point. This is my responsibility
because I love culture so much that if I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
Play the pimp.

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
That's the reason why people felt mostly so fucking much,
is because I am going to give.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
My people humanity or I'm not gonna do this shit, y'all.
I'm gonna lead y'all with this. This shit hurt me
so bad.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Although I come from that environment, it's still my responsibility
to study.

Speaker 1 (01:28:34):
Do you agree, yes, sir? Right, So I went and.

Speaker 2 (01:28:37):
Researched some of the most notorious pimps, especially some from
the Midwest, because that's where my character was from, right, y'all.
This shit hurt me so bad, bro, and I don't
get emotional much, but this made me emotions. They asked him,
what did you want to be when you were a child,
that's what you say?

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
He said. They wanted to be a gymist. Let him
sit for me. You know what that meant?

Speaker 2 (01:29:06):
I thought he would have wanted to be a football player,
dope dealer, something aggressive.

Speaker 1 (01:29:13):
There was so much disparity in his motherfucking neighborhood that
it went from.

Speaker 2 (01:29:17):
Him wanting to be a gymnast to a fucking pillop
hey ship in the middle.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
That's a.

Speaker 8 (01:29:25):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
That's it. Hurt me.

Speaker 2 (01:29:28):
He wanted to be a gymist, flip around and leotarde
for the rest of his life.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
He wanted to play, but that serious. To put it
in my package, yeah, bigs, I ain't playing.

Speaker 2 (01:29:40):
I did that, man, And so it is my responsibility
to show the humanity in here, to show the fucking humanity.
That's my fucking job as an actor. It ain't nobody
on this plant gonna beat me doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:55):
Mother's gonna look back and be like, that's a bad motherfucker.
And I'll say this too, so they won't do it
to nobody else.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
And so many, in so many cases, we allow the
kings and our neighborhoods, the kings in our statement, the
kings from where we're from, to go somewhere else and
be generals in somebody else's farm when they could have
been our kings, and then we'll talk about them like

(01:30:23):
shit when we don't realize that we did not nurture them.
We talk about people leaving our neighborhoods, but if we
really treated people, think about it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:32):
The motherfuckers who do stay, we rob them. Smart motherfuckers,
we call them nerves. We treat them like shit. And
he ain't get mad when the motherfucker don't come back
in the neighborhoods.

Speaker 2 (01:30:45):
The niggas who do the shit that we say that
niggas don't do, we let them die and do nothing
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
It can't help.

Speaker 2 (01:30:54):
Some shit just don't happen. But the motherfuckers don't know.
He was here right, got to do better and stop
talking so much ship. If we treated people to the
city of Mephis, try to pay me to live there.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
Bro, they were gonna take care of everything. And there's
somebody on the board.

Speaker 2 (01:31:15):
They faed the lyrics to play well girl, so they
changed their mind about me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
But I think with puzzond is good for society.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
But like I was thinking about all of the taxing centers,
I was thinking about all the things that Memphis was
offering at the time for me to come and move
to the city to do what people don't know, like
what manor Jackson. Did you know for Red and Baby
Rice to be here. You know what I'm saying, The
ship don't happen. You gotta have a plan and we
gotta stop right. We gotta stop trying to guilt trip

(01:31:54):
motherfuckers watch supremacy. If you fucking sell out, they may
kill you in the end, but they'll put you on
the TV show. You cut your hair off and take
your ass up something nose here, Ye'll give you an opportunity.

Speaker 1 (01:32:08):
We gotta be real.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
White supremacy pains black supremacy guilt trips. So if you,
if you show these kids that you will take care
of them, if they come back to the community, it
will be easier for them to not leave. But you
don't do ship but whoop on their ass and talk
about them and make them feel bad.

Speaker 1 (01:32:29):
We got to stop that ship, man, no facts, We
got to stop that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:34):
Make sure they'll tune in, and y'all do everything that
you're supposed to make sure the big bat statement.

Speaker 1 (01:32:40):
This be one of the biggest media conglimbates in the world.
Got real punk doing real ship.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
And thank y'all for not leaving us, Thank y'all for
staying us, and thank y'all for evolving.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
I love y'all and I appreciate you and thank you
for picking up the phone and I need you. You
beautiful making you feel a certain kind of way. Yes,
you said, Oh Bella, you said said it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:06):
Bro. We got to protect God smart people. Bro, you
know what I'm saying. We see these people be smart
and we clown them for being smart.

Speaker 4 (01:33:13):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
We got totect our smart and get them smart.

Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Niggas gotta stop throwing their motherfucker ass up at the
motherfucker because they're smart too. If you fucking smart, yo,
John is to teach. That's not saying about the niggas.
That a lot of the niggas that made people hate
being smart. And that was the reason why. That was
the reason why we made our own music, because we
tried to do what them smart niggas was doing and
they turned their nose up at them. So they got

(01:33:37):
a fucking responsibility too to come back and teach. Oh dog, motherfuckers.
I can't stay the niggas, Bro, I can't Standigga was like, Bro,
you you in the God position God. God, God is information,
God is knowledge, God is freedom. You get in the
God position and you pray for freedom, and you pray
for for for God to forgive you every day, and
you don't come back and fuck with your people, y'all final, This.

Speaker 4 (01:34:03):
Is only so.

Speaker 3 (01:34:05):
What's that fine line though? What take nipsey hustle? What's
the fine line and going back but protectingself? What's the
fine line? From David Battle the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Spirit of discernment? Like, I had to realize that, man,
sometimes people are just hurt. It ain't person A lot
of times when you're dealing with people in the hood,
it ain't that they dislike you, but you are a
mirror to show them what they don't feel like they
can do.

Speaker 1 (01:34:30):
And like, if y'all know this, man, I was never
the type of.

Speaker 2 (01:34:33):
Rapper to wear a whole bunch of I don't wear
my jewery out unless I'm going to shine on.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
The mother another motherfucker. That got what I guess. And
I'm at that point in my life where I can
have some nice ship.

Speaker 2 (01:34:44):
When I was coming up in the trenches, I'm just
out there, but fuck I'm hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:34:49):
I like David Banner. He cool and ship. I knew
that if I was I'm a good guy. That's why
I never.

Speaker 8 (01:35:03):
Like you.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
Haven't noticed, but I've never to do. I understand the
club longer that I don't. I never give a motherfucker
another time to get drunk, not just drunk, but if
you are smart, strategic. So I've never given the motherfucker
enough time to oh yeah, oh yeah, I got that
on me. I'm a dog. But that didn't line, bro,

(01:35:25):
They didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:35:26):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
It's just knowing what you used to be. Yeah, And
like I told you, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
This was on tape or not keeping your birdy heart
but developing a snake's mind, you know how.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
I know I'm gonna tell y'all something that I know
about me, And I don't know if I ever said
this on on camera before.

Speaker 2 (01:35:45):
I know a lot of my contemporaries don't like me,
and they don't like me because if David Banner becomes popular,
then etiquette and morals means something. That's the thing that
they don't show or they don't talk about what. And Nisi,
these were people who who honor meant something, your word

(01:36:05):
miant something. And so if Nissi becomes the most powerful
motherfucker that you can't treat women any kind of way
that you want to you can't not keep your word.

Speaker 1 (01:36:14):
You cannot have a cold if.

Speaker 2 (01:36:16):
Pop is the number one rapper, and you gotta say
something about the Black Panthers, because not as he's dead,
you don't talk about that part about him. You cannot
talk about part and not talking about revolution, not talk
about the people. You cannot be You cannot David Benner
cannot be popular.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
And you're not hounor the hood, you're not honor the side.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
You can't say it's stupid. Look at Mississippi, the artist
that came out of Mississippi that you know of, that's
on the spot play. Tell me crit ain't smart. Tell
me David Better ain't smart, Tell me too, no, HEAs
ain't smart. Tell me Ray Schumande, the final fucking a close,
and and and and and and being free thinkers come on, man,

(01:37:00):
So you can't say that shit no more.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
But what they want is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
They want an adult rated nigger with no morals and
no values, so then they can do anything with our music.
And it's not his fault because he doesn't know any better.
And I never criticized the rapper because most rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Told you what they were.

Speaker 2 (01:37:22):
There was one female rapper in particular that I respect
her so much because she told you who she was
in the beginning and she never faulted for that. And
then people once you detain a MOSTI millionaires. I don't
believe now she said, this is who the fuck I am,
and those who know know I told you she was,

(01:37:45):
that she had a business and stood on it, stood
on a business.

Speaker 1 (01:37:48):
I respect it. That is the reason why I say
it closing. If y'all ever noticed all.

Speaker 2 (01:37:55):
The stuff that I did with trading, all the stuff
that I did, bruh, it was maybe ninth wonder Erica
baddu Tyler quality.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
The rest of it was all gangsters.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
Like there's somebody in particular who probably the stops the
second favorite gangster rapper. He brought me ten twenty thousand
dollars and they ben I don't want nobody know, he said.

Speaker 1 (01:38:22):
I know, if you have it, it's gonna get to
the people, he said, But I don't don't. I don't
need no fame for doing the right thing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:29):
Anything that I've ever done for the streets, anything I've
ever done for the community, came through gangster. I'll never
forget this in my life, bro, And I hope he
don't mind me telling me telling the story, bro, And I'll.

Speaker 4 (01:38:41):
End with this.

Speaker 1 (01:38:42):
I was driving through mid time right when Afset got
out of prison, and I know what up O G.
He's like, OG, can't get your number, so I need
some help. I was like, what, Bro? What to me?

Speaker 2 (01:38:57):
Like?

Speaker 1 (01:38:57):
I want to do better? I don't know how that
was so like for a man to open his heart
like I just and then that's right.

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
When meges so I can understand why that connection didn't happen.
But he asked me anything. I just want to know,
can you help me know?

Speaker 1 (01:39:17):
What's? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:39:18):
So's it's our responsibility our children. We can say whatever
we want to about these kids music. Our children are
a direct reflection what we did or did not teach.
So if if they're not going in the right directions
because we didn't want them in the right direction, we
don't have we don't have no connections.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
We can show them what to do. We didn't put
them on. If you look at the generation after me,
then that's the Soldier Boy era on to what we
have now. That's the same generation.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
Oh no, no, before him was a generation that we
skipped over and guess it was free rappers in that category.

Speaker 1 (01:40:01):
You can't name many after them. It's create Kensie Lamar
and Ja Coble.

Speaker 2 (01:40:07):
Their generation was a generation after us, and we didn't
usher them in, and it was about three to five
of them, and it was no more rappers.

Speaker 1 (01:40:15):
Out of the generation for the most part.

Speaker 4 (01:40:17):
And that's our fault.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
And it wasn't because we were selfish. It was because
we didn't know what we would do. We didn't add
lawyers that were from the city and marketing company. We
had to figure that shit out. So we're trying to
hold this shit up if you businessmen and rappers and
do the beats and tour and every fucking thing else.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
And we didn't have an opportunity to pull the kids up.
Schnoop was the.

Speaker 2 (01:40:39):
Only other person I ever heard talk about that that
was our fault. So the kids put themselves on them,
so why should they fuck with us. We didn't do
nothing to pull them up. So all I can do
is be here and be an example. And y'all be
surprised what kids called me and the questions that they had, so.

Speaker 1 (01:40:57):
They just waiting on that.

Speaker 3 (01:41:00):
Sure, David Bannon will appreciate you, man. You know you're
welcome anytime on big facts. Make sure y'all support everything.
What's that website again?

Speaker 1 (01:41:07):
Dot com?

Speaker 9 (01:41:08):
There you go, David, and support everything he got going
on right now? Yeah, yeah, stream that check us out
to business coming up on BT.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
That's that's coming up. Family business, Family business, New Orleans. Yeah,
New Orleans. Shout out to that girl over there, and everything.

Speaker 2 (01:41:30):
Before I Go was the movie that I played of
God and Before I Go really really really exciting about
that man. And uh, you know what what I just
asked people just just support. You know, you have to
invest in people that you want to see successful. If
y'all and black people all emotional about politics, I don't understand.

Speaker 1 (01:41:51):
This is last thing I promised I'm gonna go with Jai.

Speaker 2 (01:41:54):
Why do we go get the same motherfuckers who didn't
give a fuck about no politics before to talk about politics.

Speaker 1 (01:42:01):
Now I never understood this ship.

Speaker 2 (01:42:03):
Get the motherfuckers who've always been talking politics that's always.
If you don't do that, you go the same motherfuckers
that's popular, and then expect them to know or do
what's best for If I talked about this on another show,
if we the engineer to a problem, wouldn't it be
smarter to get a engineer?

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
If we really want some real answers. We just want
to talk about. Yeah, nobody want to do nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:30):
I don't want to do I'll be gonna do it
the wrong ship and be the only Like it needs
a dumb in here.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
Just what's your saying? Oh, yeah, you want to do something.

Speaker 4 (01:42:43):
I want to do something.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
You know what I am gonna do, Bro, I'm gonna
get a whole bunch of money, man, and y'all my dream.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
You know, I gotta go. I want to about the water.
I want to about water.

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
Well, right, as much as we talk revolution, if they
want for white folks cut off our water, cut off
our electricity, We're gonna get right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:43:10):
Jackson saw some of that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Bro, I'm gonna tell you someone cameras cut off. Like
I developed something, bro, and submitted it to some really
powerful people. Like if I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
Gonna show you some of this, Virginia, can you pull
up that water du for him? You got that the
water proposing, bro, Like, like, no bullshit, I'll say.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
This to them.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
I'm I'm gonna shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
I really really believe that my talents and my ability
to think it's being wasted. Yeah, bro, I really think
that I can help do some things that can.

Speaker 1 (01:43:46):
Help change the world.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
And Dereck Grace said at one time, Dereck Gray said,
could you imagine David Banner with a billion dollars and
billions of dollars? That's accessble whatever we think about, and
we could really do it. We wouldn't have to go
to nobody else, you know. And that's the reason why
I was telling you that I gotta be more quiet,

(01:44:08):
because look at what level I'm getting to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
And you know, them folks like as much as black
people think that you get some credit or some money
being revolutionary, you don't their motherfucker's scared you, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:44:23):
And I finally break my way through them doors, and
then I start popping that ship again. And then if
y'all notice that slowly disappeared, like, make sure that you
don't go disappearges.

Speaker 1 (01:44:37):
You don't think mother gonna be like that did it
to me on Instagram? It's like, okay with you, how
it was a tiny rember.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
Time every time I spoke seventy eight thousand whatever, you
know what I'm saying, gave you that ship went down
to three hundred, you know, But you know what it
taught me and what God has shown me. If that
means we have to build our own technology in our
own we gotta we gotta stop, you know, giving our
power to other people and then be surprised because.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
They do the same thing every time. Right, I look
at I look at America as a snake, And why
is that?

Speaker 2 (01:45:17):
Even if you had a pet round snake, y'all was cool, cool,
motherfucker decided to bite you one day, would you be surprised?

Speaker 1 (01:45:25):
Why? Because it's still a snake historically, and people are
always there's some good snakes. Yeah, the black snake for
a farmer may be the best snake on this fucking planet.

Speaker 2 (01:45:36):
Maybe the best animals keeps the rat sound all kind
of good ship, right, But like Mark, I mean, like
Muhammad Alisa, when you see a black snake, if it's
a month, a whole bunch of other snakes, you're not
gonna be like ooh that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Black snake now, even like all them snakes.

Speaker 8 (01:45:52):
Guys, big sacks, David bat Oh, Big Fast, Triple w
dot Big fatspot dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:46:05):
A little money, yeah, this this money. He wants some money. Yeah,
man on the streets exactly, it's big facts, No captain
bitch

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