Perspektives: The R3SET with Mike WiLL Made-It

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
It gets no better than this. You are now June
to respectives with big bang bang. Let's get straight to
hey man, it's a beautiful day in the city of Atlanta, Georgia. Man.
Right now we're locked in on Mike Wheel Boulevard.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Man, my brother, Man, cooler man at home, at home,
don't real talk man, rest of three reset.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
It's fine for that tonight. Man, y'all make sure y'all
tap in the night man, get in on that reset.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
I'm from their perspective. Man.

Speaker 1 (00:37):
You know I've been waiting to get on here.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Bro. Man, you're good, feeling good, bron everything we manifested, Man,
just seeing it come to light, even us coming out
here and doing the interview outside. It's like it's supposed
to rain today. It's a Sunday day. Everything working in
our paper right now.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Man, you know what I'm saying or locked in on
that for your mentally man.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Mentally Man, I feel I felt great, Bro. I ain't
gonna lie. I took some time away, took a step back,
you know what I'm saying, for like nine years and
we're just able to like reflect and just like even
learning myself as a as a as a person, as
a as a man like you know what I'm saying,
like and and feel me like I took my time

(01:22):
with it and like now I feel like I feel
charged up. I ain't gonna lie to you. I lost
my heart drives. I thought that was something, but I'm like, man, bro,
now I got a cloud. You know what I'm saying.
This cloud got twenty terror bytes full of new new
new music.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Like I ain't never stopped working, but it's like, you
know what I'm saying, Like you said, I had to
get my mentor together, all them hikes and all that
golfing and all that just sitting down, just chilling and
taking your time. You feel me ship out?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
What would you say to people feel like you fell off?
Like like we done fell out way yet what are
you doing? Man? Nigga fell back? But no, I respected though,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I respect what the say, Like a nigga fell off
definitely if they, if they, if they so used to
that hearing a nigga might what made it, might have
made it. Or either seeing me on their favorite albums
and all that ship and then I'm not on their
favorite albums and I understand what niggas say, like, man,
oh yeah the nigga, that nigga fell off man, because
I'm not in their faith. But like I ain't nowhere

(02:25):
near fall off man. I really just about I've been
doing real estate. Like we were my third building right here.
This is my newest building right here. You know what
I'm saying. We got the whole compounds, three buildings. We
call it, made it way, you know what I'm saying.
And like this building right here, we're actually turning into
a school, you know what I'm saying. And so like
my focus had just shifted, you know what I'm saying.
And it wasn't and it wasn't all for the camera.

(02:47):
It wasn't all for the entertainment. It was really all
for the like expanding the legacy and like you know
what I'm saying, building the legacy and ship like that.
But nah, man, nigga ain't fell off man.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
So could you? Could You could have just never not
did music no more like you came and made your money.
Basically not for sure.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
I could have definitely definitely retired, been done with this shit.
Yeah you know what I'm saying. Say I was cool
on music, but It's like I'm thirty six, bro, you
feel me? Yeah, So like Jimmy, I been here. Every
time I run into he always asked me, like, Mike,
how do you know? Hey? Just remember I was forty
when I started in the scope. You know what I'm saying.
So he always puts that in perspective for me, you

(03:24):
know what I'm saying. So it's like I look at
it like, man, shit, I'm ja geting started, bro, Like
I'm really jaking started, and I'm learning a lot. I've
been able to learn a lot over these last years,
you know what I'm saying. Even you know hindsight twenty twenty.
So when you're able to got that look back and
and pay certain shit attention, it's like, yeah, I could have,
I could have hung it up. But it's like, man,

(03:44):
I did. Man, I came, I came. I'm far from
where I started, and I'm far from where I want
to be, you know what I'm saying. But I'm everything
I wish for as a teenager, you know what I'm saying.
So like, man, one minute you set these goals and
the next minute you got damn check them off, and
then you gotta set all new goals. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
So, yeah, Man, so this album who a you got
on the album? Man? This ship loaded.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Man. So it's a lot of new collaborations, a lot
of new faces, and a lot of people that you
ever seen me like or the world has to see
me like work with you know what I'm saying, necessarily Like,
I got got, I mean, I got my bad bro
I got I got fucking Savage, I got Side Baby,
I got Thug, I got Tezo Touchdown, I got Luthera Chris,

(04:33):
I got nb A Young Boy, I got Chief Keeth,
I got a siege for Rum. I got Selo Green,
I got Sway Lee, I got Tip Young Joe, Killer Mike,
I even got I even got a vintage juice man
joint on that shout out the Juice I like that.
Man that Sea one too big Man, shout out to

(04:53):
Sea Loot. That's always been one of my favorite You
know what I'm saying, That's what the goats out of
the city.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Bro, how you lose your heart? Drive though?

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Man fucking around and just you know it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
I had I had.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
I used to just let my engineer like hold my drives.
You know what I'm saying, and his car got broken into,
and he was in the hond that court, he was
working on the mix. He left his laptop on the
seat he was on the hond the court sit got
broken into. They were really going for the laptop with
my drives, and my backup was in his bag. You
know what I'm saying, So boom. He was like, man, man, bro,

(05:27):
I lost his drives. He felt bad about it. So
like it was at that time, it was devastating to
me because I always go to my drives and I
might take this verse from years ago and put this
person with that person. I might just be able to
put these weird collaborations together that end up big. Or
I might be able to take this verse and put
on another beat or speed it up or do all
that kind of stuff. So like that's that was my

(05:48):
everything at that time. But I was really looking at
that ship like all right, cool man, Bro, you just
you just you just graduated. Bro. I don't know what
God trying to show you, but you're trying to show
you something, man, because at the end of the day,
you to want to grabb me, you to put some
young niggas on. You had a lot of success, your
labor deal don't fulfilled, and now you done lost your
heart drive. So shit, start over and start investing in

(06:09):
other ship. And that's what really started. Give me the
invest in real estate and invest in buildings and all
types of shit. And it's funny because like five years
later after that shit, it's like I don't know if
my I don't know my angina was too high or what.

Speaker 1 (06:24):

Speaker 2 (06:24):
For five years after that ship, he said, Yo, I
think I found a backup in the store, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
So you find music.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I don't know what's on that drive. To be real
with you, I still don't have that drive, you know
what I'm saying. Like that man, he said, he find
a backup with a lot of the ship. But by
that time, I'm already on my new journey.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
So I overcame that. I got a new sound, got
new producers. Still got the same producers, but I got
new producers on the team. We got a new sound,
we got new music, we got new collaborations, we got
it's just all new energy. So it's like like the
energy we didn't feel right when he came back about
them drive. So I just go back and I'm gonna
look at them one day. But you know what I'm saying,

(07:02):
My focus is so on this new chapter and this
new reset, and it's new, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
and hopefully I can go back and visit that music
from a decade you know what I'm saying, decade from
the past, you feel me. But it was really like
after I did Big Facts, that's really when my fuckers
started popping up with files and all types of shit, like,

(07:23):
oh man, he just say something about the drives.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Now I found this in the story. If you feel me,
you know what I'm saying. So it's all good, though, Man, good,
I'm saying that that ship kind of do something to
your mental kind of fuck you up at like sure,
because I couldn't.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I couldn't understand it because it ain't never happened to me,
you know what I'm saying. But I know a lot
of people go through that ship. Man. They lose they
lose files, they lose their hard drives and all that
type of shit. And I won't trying to let it
fuck with me too much. The good thing about it
was I didn't. I didn't lose that ship. When I
was like on my dick like dead broke or something,
I'm saying I lost that ship. I was still getting

(07:59):
nominated for a Grammy with Kendrick. I just dropped a
classic with Trouble. You know what I'm saying. I God,
damn man, meet you me and you got damn plotting
and planning on media.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
You're telling me about my next run and how I
need to fuck with these new artists and all. It
was like it was really the right time. But like
at that time for me, it was like, man, just
think about it. If you had a car and then
somebody say like, man, or I lost your car, and
then it's like, man, you might get up and be like, man,
I gotta go. I gotta go to the store, like
quitting you were like, oh damn, you got my car.

(08:34):
You know what I'm saying. So it'll fuck with me
like that. And it really fucked with me cause I
really couldn't understand it because I was like blue flame hot,
I'm twenty eight years old, and then it's like, damn,
what you mean, Like you know what I'm saying, So
I don't even know what that means. I really was like, man,
maybe I need to just start pushing my team, you
feel me. And so even when I lost the hard drive,
man like thirty Rock. I put thirty Rock with Roddy Rich.

(08:57):
They did the Box, you know what I'm saying. I
put Man, you know fast. You know what I'm saying.
Swaly did a song with post Alone, which ended up
being my boy David and Austin Rosen's artist, you know
what I'm saying. And and boom we put this on
the Spider Man soundtrack and that's the biggest stream song
in the world and history of music. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Some flower Oh yeah, yeah, world up man, the biggest
you said is.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
What That's the most stream song in the world and
the history of music. I don't even know. Like last
time I checked it with Double Diamond, you know what
I'm saying. There's a lot of them, you.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
Know what I'm saying, Double Like they got over with
double down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:34):
And then and then thirty Rouck went Diamond with the Box,
you know what I'm saying. And then a lot of
my songs, like my songs never stopped playing, you know
what I'm saying. They were still playing. So even when
that ship was going on, it was just like it
was a lot of highs, but it was like a
low but it was like ship. But you can't lay down,
you know what I'm saying. You either got to be
an air Lass coach or if you're gonna be. And

(09:55):
then I've realized being an air Lass coach, you gotta be,
you gotta leave by example, so you damn the gotta
move like like you know what I'm saying, I just
gotta damn there, just get back in the game. Leave
by example. And then that's what I've been doing. That's
when I'm I made my mind up, Like man, you
know I'm gonna do another project. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
You think at first you was chasing like the same
us that was on a hard drive, like trying to
work with the same artist that was on the hard
drive instead of trying to you know, plant seeds and
build some new niggas.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Like yeah, exactly, That's exactly what was going on. And
that's what I had to start realizing it and looking
at it ass. I'm like, man, you know what, I'm
gonna buy all new equipment. I used to use an
NPC and Fruity Loose. I'm gonna keep them in the studio,
but I'm gonna get the ASR ten, I'm gonna get
the Super six. I'm gonna get a whole bunch of
modules and synthesizers and stuff that I ain't never used.

(10:45):
You know what I'm saying. I got I got a
control board. You know what I'm saying. My man mark
as my engineering You know what I'm saying. I had
him pull in because at first I just had bought
the first building, and I used to just be up
here playing the video game all day. You know what
I'm saying, I ain't know what I wanted to do.
But then I start putting studio equipment in there, slowly
but surely, and then I start realizing, like, man, it's

(11:06):
a hat like right now and over these last like
I say, five to six years, or even ten years,
it's like the changing of the guards. Like it's like
a whole new regime, you know what I'm saying. So
anytime I come across somebody that's talented or that moved
me or inspire me, I'm like, hey, man, you know what,
you can record in my studio for free, whenever you
want to. Man, look this is my production team. Hey

(11:27):
look this is my god da da da. This my
god da da da. This my god da da da.
You know what I'm saying, Man, let's set you up
on a schedule and let's knock out a project with you.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So it definitely was that. It was like, man, shit,
I needed my own studios because I was booking all
these other studios and I'll stay in there twelve to
fifteen hours a day. I'm spending about you know what
I'm saying, three thousand dollars a day, four thousand dollars
a day for a session, you know what I'm saying.
So in ten days, that's forty thousand. When I started
looking at it like that, or twenty days, it's eighty thousand,
like you know what I'm saying. I started looking at

(11:57):
it like that, I'm like, hey, man, man, how much
is my posts? You do really saying, like, man, how
much is the buyer building? Though? You know what I'm saying.
And then that's why I'm like, Okay, man, we're gonna
we're gonna do everything this go around new. We're gonna
be in a new building, you know, what I'm saying,
we come with a new approach. We got a new attitude. Man,
nigga working working out, a nigga got Dan playing golf.

(12:19):
You know what I'm saying. It's just it's all the
way different. It's the reset all the way around.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
What you think just taking that ill at the time,
you thought was like the biggest ill ever? What you think?
What do you think that shit taught you? Though?

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Patience?

Speaker 1 (12:33):

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Sh It taught me patience and it taught me like
I even have put out a trailer for my album
and I was talking about it, but like the trailer
for that album was really about it wasn't really just
about that situation. It was really just like the bigger
picture of that of that trailer was was really for
like anybody whoever lost anything, Like you know what I'm saying.

(12:55):
So like sometime you might lose something and then you
might be like, damn lost everything, man, and then you
develop self doubt and then you get down on yourself
and then you just want to give up and you
just want to you know what I'm saying, And then
you gotta realize, like, man, hold on, man, it's really
like God's gift, Like this ain't even like I ain't
even in control of this, Like I'm so I'm so small,

(13:17):
I'm so microscopic to this shit, you know, I mean,
the in the grand stream of things in the earth.
So it's like at the end of the day, I
gotta look at it, like, man, shit, it is really
God's gift. I'm talented this far, and I'm still young
for real. I'm not young, but I'm young for real,
you know what I'm saying. And it's like I'm thirty thirty,
I'm in my thirties. I'm like, man, you know what, Man,

(13:37):
I'm the hard drive. I looked at my I looked
at my new looked at my clouds face, and I
saw that we had like damn there twenty terror bytes
of files and all types of different shit. That's why
I'm like, Man. Then I had to start really looking
at at it, like man, Okay, it's fifty two weeks
in the year. The music store is open every Friday,

(13:58):
you know what I'm saying. And you got the production company,
you make someone music every day. Y'all really need to
be dropping every Friday. The music store is open. Somebody
from the squad need to be dropping something every Friday,
you know what I'm saying. And so I really started
really paying attention to the business and everything too. So
like when I when I thought I took that air,
I was able to take a step back first, which

(14:19):
is patience, and then look at the bigger picture and
be like, man, okay, like what what's really going on?
So when we do, when we do reapproach the ship,
when we do go back to putting out music, when
we do, when I am talking to my team and
everything like that, now it's not like I'm going over here,
I'm going over there, I'm doing all these interviews or
I'm in these are all these sessions, like I'm right here,
I'm right here, I'm touched, I'm tangible, I'm touching, I'm touchable.

(14:43):
I'm accessible in the city of Atlanta. Where you know
what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, I'm accessible,
I'm accessible.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
You know what I'm saying. Look at yourself. Do you
think you you forced to reset because you never would
have liked Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
And you know what's crazy? You know what I'm saying, Like,
you're right when when shit is lit, Man, that's where
really where I was getting at. Man, you might get
booked over here. You might get pulled one hundred ways
when it is licked, you know what I'm saying. But
when ship ain't lit, man, motherfuck might not pick up
the phone for you. Motherfucker might not you know what
I'm saying. Shit started quieting down, you know what I'm saying,

(15:30):
which is a blessing. So now you can sit your
ad down and think, you know what I'm saying. Now
you got time to go hike. Now you got time
to sit down. And I got tied to sit down
and chop it with people like you or you know
what I'm saying, even people that I looked at like
look at like mentors or you know what I'm saying,
even spend more time with my family and all that
kind of shit. And I was blessed enough to not sink,

(15:50):
you know what I'm saying while that ship was going on. So, man,
this ship was all a blessing for real.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
You think everybody ship, every ever create, create, creative person
should take a reset.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
Yeah, nah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (16:04):
What's the benefits of it?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Like I said, man, it's just it's just it's it's
that quiet time, like I don't know if you ever,
like if anybody whoever watching this, like ever live by theirself,
they'll understand, like, man, that's silent time that you get,
like before you're about to lay down or right when
you wake up. It's like it's like that time. It's
like it's like that. But it's hard though, when your

(16:28):
ship is so lit and you know what I'm saying,
or like you're creative and you have emotion, you can't
really call like hey, man, you know what, I'm gonna
take a reset, you know what I'm saying, Or you
know what, I'm gonna just sit down and I'm gonna
just reflect on everything, and I'm gonna just you can't,

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You gotta keep hustling, so shake your confidence a little bit.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Though, for sure, for sure, for sure, it definitely developed
self doubt, you know what I'm saying. And and then
I had to realize, like, man, fuck, I'm dumbing myself
for it, like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, Like
I'm in here making beats, but even the beats I'm making,
I'm like, man, this shit, ain't you know what I'm saying?

(17:06):
Or like, you know what I'm saying, or like, hey,
I'm so excited about this new artist or this producer
or that.

Speaker 1 (17:12):

Speaker 2 (17:13):
I'm like, man, y'all the one Bro Hey back in
my day like that, and I'm thinking, I'm like Bro
thirty one talking about back when I was you know
what I'm saying, all that, brother, it's time right now
because I had to realize, like the people that I
was looking up to, like for real, Kanye West or
you know what I'm saying, anybody like that, like they
was in their thirties, their late twenties, and they thirties
when they got damn halfshit blue hot. You know what

(17:33):
I'm saying. We just happened to have shit blue hot
in our early twenties, you know what I'm saying. So
it's like, man, even when we got hit with the pandemic,
I know a lot of people were able to sit
down and reevaluate their whole shit. And then when you
know what I'm saying, when we were let back outside,
you know what I'm saying, we were able to hit
the ground running and like shit, man, you already know
we went through the Resehut together. You know what I'm saying,

(17:54):
we went through the reset together, my boy looking like
a whole new man out.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
You got platforms with that. I forgot. The reset is real.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
The reset is real. You know what I'm saying. We
did that ship, you know what I'm saying, what real?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Hey, you feel like did you see people like trying
to feel like that? Did you notice people like like
that ship over? Did you like, did you feel that
energy from Piers? At first?

Speaker 2 (18:28):
At first, I at first I looked at it like that.
But then I but then I had to realize. I
started looking at this ship like, man, okay, you got
the music industry, you got the food industry, you got
you know what I'm saying. You got all these different
kind of industries, you know what I'm saying. And and
within the food industry, you got all these different kinds
of corporations. So I'm like, Damn, I ain't never seen

(18:49):
fucking Oreo, you know what I'm saying, post anything about
the new Ladies or like the new Gatorade or like
you know what I'm saying, Or like, I ain't never
seeing like Oreo do something with Gatorade, you know what
I'm saying. But then I did see Coca Cola do
something with Oreo, you know what I'm saying. And it
was only for a season. That it was only for
a time, but still I still haven't seen like everything

(19:11):
Coca Cola released end up on oreos feed or or
or public service announcement or whatever. So I had to
look at that like, and that's the food industry, and
that's just us going to the grocery store and shopping
and just looking around. And and then I had to
start looking at it like, okay, the music industry the
same thing, So like, don't nobody know what going on me?

(19:32):
They know at first they were seeing me. I was
moving around, they were seeing me, and I was outside
or I was right here. I was tangible. But then
all of a sudden, it's like all Star weekend, Grammy weekend,
this weekend, that weekend, this festival, that festival. Now we
don't even see Mike well, so it's really like out
of sight, out of mind.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
And saying now I'm saying, what about do you feel
like you know how you can feel that shit like
you think to fell off?

Speaker 2 (20:00):
But one of the four one of the four agreements
is what and don't take nothing personal? You know what
I'm saying, we ain't taking the person Yeah. So so look,
I used to take it personally when I'm when I'm
looking at it like.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
That, I'm saying, that's the quesse you felt like that
and you was taking it personally, but then you your mind.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
I had to I had to realize that, nigga is
it's not them looking at me or a certain kind
of way. Nigga, you not putting out music, you ain't around.
You know what I'm saying, You're not around, So I'm
not they don't feel no kind of way about me.
I would hope that ain't nobody waking up in the
morning like yeah nigga, that nigga might you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Saying that, But you know it do be niggas like
that though, Bron, I don't know, Bro, I know you
know and I know man, it's niggas like that, like
niggas can't wait to laugh at another nigga by just
how it go like.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
On the lower Boy, I got nothing through it money
or that and we're going on over up but but
but but their type of nigga. Bro, I ain't gonna
lie them nigga going through something then, Bro, you know
what I'm saying. That's that's what I Yeah, what I
had to realize over this time. I'm like, man, them
Nigga gone through something. But then and I used to
and I used to God Damn taking a certain kind
of way where like, okay, ship if I if I

(21:12):
dropped this one, because I was even over these times,
even though even though I want dropping the album. You
know what I'm saying, over this time, I was still
dropping a little loose songs. Man, I'm not looking at
somebody to like post this ship or anything like that,
because nigga, they got their own motion, they got their
own thing going on. But if a niggas sent over
there thinking like, oh boy, that nigga got Damn, might
well threw the money. Come on, they gonna hear about it.

(21:35):
By the nigga did about three buildings over there. But
that nigga got seventy eighty thousand square feet in the
city of Aletand you know what I'm saying, That Nigga
got between his team them, Nigga got Damn there ten
diamond records. You know what I'm saying, That Nigga got
man one of the biggest streaming rap songs. In History Humble.

Speaker 1 (21:52):
How you feel what niggas try to make it seem
like like Mike ain't doing the beats, Like that's another
nigga like his team doing in Hitside. How you feel
a niggas in it? So you don't heard that before?

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, I hadn't heard something like that before. I ain't
gonna lie. I hear all the chatter. You know what
I'm saying, ain't lie.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I ain't gonna lie. I hear.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
I hear all the chatter. Will I choose a respond or? Well,
I choose not to respond.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
How you feel?

Speaker 2 (22:17):
You know what I'm saying, Like when I when I
feel that, it's just like ignorant, Like, Okay, this nigga
is ignorant. He's stupid, you know what I'm saying, because
he don't know what a production company is. You know
what I'm saying, I'm breaking out. Yeah, I'm a producer
that started a production company. You know what I'm saying.
So I'm the executive of the production company. I started
Ear Drummers in two thousand and seven when I was
in high school. Ear Drummers started off with just Mike

(22:38):
Will made it. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, and
it was a one man band. You know what I'm saying.
I met shot at Low when I was like fifteen
sixteen out there in car at Club Q. He used
to let me come to the studio over there on
the West side, D four L Studio right down Bankhead.

Speaker 1 (22:52):

Speaker 2 (22:53):
You see them, see them work, you see them take
their songs right there to Pool Palace. You know what
I'm saying, Take the crucial and n have a move
men in the city. You know what I'm saying. When
I met you, Ear Drummers was a one man band.
That was two thousand and seven when I was moving
around with with that artist. Back then, we pulled that
to your spot. But HALLI you know what I'm saying.
Boom like man, that was two thousand and seven. I

(23:14):
was a one man band then when I had I
was fucking. I was sucking the underground up like I
had the mixtape ship going crazy. But I'm like, man,
what's the difference between me and like a little John or.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Like you making them just your beats? Yeah, Gucci Gucci
beats like that Before that was just you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
But even back then I still wrote with my boy
a plus, we were going to high school with each other.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah, yeah, look like.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
You know what I'm saying. But but, but Gucci was
getting on the beat. So I was cooking up in
the basement, and I was teaching my boys Schooly how
to make beats. So a couple of them beats, you
know what I'm saying. Schooley might have added some sounds
to it, but I was teaching him how to make beats,
you know what I'm saying. So back then, back then,
it was like, man, okay, like I'm seeing Doctor Dre,
I'm seeing Kanye West, I'm seeing all these different producers.

(24:04):
I'm like, damn, Like these niggas make beats. But they
also got a production team. Okay, I need to build
me a production team. So I need to give me
a whole bunch of like minded people that think like
me as far as like being different and like pushing
the Soign forward and god damn, and people that get
the vision, and then I need to build me a team.
So at first, people were looking at it like, man,

(24:24):
you know, Mike, We'll got a team, bro. You know
any other niggas over there making beets?

Speaker 1 (24:29):

Speaker 2 (24:30):
But it's like at the end of the day, like
like when it when it comes to production. This is
how I look at it, right, It's just math, you
know what I'm saying. We ain't even gotta go algebra
and all that. We can go simple math. Addition and subtraction.
Subtract me out of any song that my name is on,
and then what do we have? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Look breaking down, you said what.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Subtract my name? Subtract me out of any song that
we have.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
You know what I'm saying. From the initial of you're saying,
to take you out of it, not your name, To
take you remove you won't happen, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:03):
Because this artist might have never linked with this guy
who made this beat or this this guy who made
this beat would have never known to take it to
this artist, you know what I'm saying. And then when
when we do take it to this artist and the
artist is like, nah, this guy might have not showed
up to the studio ten times and played this one
beat for the same artists like you know what I'm saying,
or might or he might not be crazy enough to

(25:24):
just be like bro, I'm telling you get on this one,
like get on that one, like you know what I'm saying.
So that right there, boom, you're putting that play together.
Then you structure in the song. Then you mixing the record.
Then you're putting this and you're putting this feature on there,
or you're putting this, are you putting this like person
to add some keys on their additional production or whatever.

(25:44):
Whatever you're doing, you're producing the record. You might be
executive producing the record, but you're you're producing the record.
And one thing I learned about production is like to
be a super producer, man, you gotta be able to
produce a song from from top to bottom, hands on,
hands off, you know what I'm saying. So it was
a time where I could make the beat, I can
write the song, I can engineer, I could I could

(26:06):
do I can mix it, I could do all that
ship you know what I'm saying. And then there was
another time where I met this dude and he can
he can mix, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I met this dude. Man, this dude ain't seeing how
you feel with the biggat say that, but but I
think I think you.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Be the trade in real life ain't it ain't it
ain't it ain't really meet you know, it ain't really
media training.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
You just don't give it.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
I feel like I feel like, I mean, everybody got feelings,
but I feel like I feel like feeling feel like you.

Speaker 1 (26:41):
Go harder, like and show the nigga like make you
feel like, Okay, this is my battery. You know what
I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
I ain't gonna lie. I used to do it for
the hay's, not do it for the believers. I don't
care about no nigga, bro.

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I don't care. I don't care about I don't care
about that ship.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Like if a niggas yeah you know, yeah, if a
nigga over there sitting sitting there and contemplating in his
head out me, yeah about me and he don't even
know me. He don't know my sister name, he don't
know ship about me. You know what I'm saying. I
don't I don't like women operating their feelings.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know what I'm saying. I'm a man time. You
know what I'm saying. So I'm not I all have Yeah,
we all come initial thought. See that why I got
a stop. I gotta stop thinking about my initial thought
that Nigga is an idiot.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I said that from the jump, that Nigga stupid as fun.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
Saying I be stupid too, Like when I hear certain
ship and it makes me feel a way, but I
don't go there. Yeah, so I just won't speaking like
my initial thought.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Of it, Like, damn, niggas is my initial thought. Bro,
when I hear that ship, I'll be like, Damn, that's unfortunate. Bro,
that's Nigga ignorant. You know what I'm saying, real talk
because he don't know me. You know what I'm saying.
Anybody who know me, or anybody who knows okay, he
got two sisters, or you know what I'm saying, his mama, name,
your dad, name, anybody who really on me. They're gonna

(28:00):
tell you I'm a savant. They're gonna tell you I'm
a leader. They're gonna tell y'all. You know what I'm saying.
They gonna they're gonna say everything that this person might
not be saying.

Speaker 1 (28:09):

Speaker 2 (28:09):
So this person right here, I gotta understand that even
in the position that I'm in, you could put a
tree right here many folks gonna say the same shit.
It's just it just comes with being on top, you
know what I'm saying. Motherfucker always gonna try to talk
down and pull down the nigga that's on top, you
know what I'm saying. So so once a nigga on top,
nigga like man oh man, the nigga gonna be making

(28:29):
their beats, them saying, nigga ain't gonna take sacrifices for
their team.

Speaker 1 (28:33):

Speaker 2 (28:34):
I took sacrifices for my team, like real ones, you
know what I'm saying. Like, and we came from nothing
and we turned that ship into something. So all of
them we got multiple millionaires. We all started off in
a negative. We all started out broke as fuck, you
know what I'm saying. Hey, man, hey, I ain't tell
you how how the first publishing situation went right. So look, man, boom,

(28:57):
you know, tw eleven, we had all the songs in
the mixed say, all the all the songs on the street,
everything in Atlanta, all the all the strip clubs, everything
was on everybody mixhaping all that shit. Then next thing,
you know, twenty twelve, we get three songs on the
charts this whole time. I ain't had no manager or nothing.
I ain't had no publishing deal. I ain't have nothing.
Turn on the lights on the charts. Bands maker dance

(29:19):
on the charts. Uh no, lie on the charts. You
know what I'm saying, Boom. I got all the songs
in the strip club and I'm at every single studio
round here. But we ain't making no money off the
music industry. The only time we're making money is if
somebody buy a beat like but I heard it beat.
Let me get a beat like that. That's the only
time we're making money. We ain't know how to get
no back in. We know how to get no front in.
We know how to get nothing. You know what I'm saying.
So boom, fast forward all these all these companies calling me,

(29:43):
and they like, man, shit, broh. You know what I'm saying.
We got six we got six figures for you, man,
we're trying to sign you.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
I was like, man, I got a whole production team. Man,
I can't. I can't. I can't take it. You know
what I'm saying. I'm dead broke, I'm crack man, I'm
on my I'm on a rock bottom. You know what
I'm saying. I'm like, man, I can't take it.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
Man.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
They're like, they're like nine six figures, like it's for you,
you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm like, nah, I
got a whole production team, and they're like, man, but
all we here, Mike well made it, I said, But
you also hear ear drummers too. Every time you hear
Mike what made it? You hear ear drummers too. You
just don't know what ear drummers is. You know what
I'm saying, I need a joint venture. You know what
I'm saying. They're like, we can't do that. Man. I'm like, man,

(30:19):
look if y'all give me that six figure that y'all
talking about, the only thing, the only thing that I
the only thing that I could do with that six
figures is God damn chop that six figures up and
split it with my guys, and guess what we're gonna
end up and pay taxes. We're gonna end right back
where we started on broke, you know what I'm saying.
So everybody need their own money, you feel me? Man?

(30:40):
I held out until fucking Big John had made a
move you know what I'm saying. From I and My
You know what I'm saying. Big John had made a
move from ian My to Warner. That was his first
deal that he did was with Ear Drummers. He did
the joint venture. That's when I got my first money
and the rest of my team got my got their money.

(31:00):
And I wasn't gonna take no money from this music
industry until all my guys were able to get money,
you know what I'm saying. And and that's what and
that and that's because these guys signed me for free,
you feel me. So a lot of them niggas that
are sitting around with all that. Whatever they say about
Mike Will, they never did that. You know what I'm saying.
They're not taking them second fight. They gonna take the

(31:21):
first check. It'say fucking niggas, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, So it's like, so, how many of your niggas
like still locked in that were locked in from the beginning.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
Ship all of them? Man, my boy p over there
right now, he working on something. You know what I'm saying.
Mars still locked in, plus still locked then Jabo's still
locked in. You know what I'm saying my boy thirty
rock Shrimp. You know what I'm saying, Like my boy
all from high school, my boy plus from high school.
You know what I'm saying, all of them locked in,
the ones that the core, the ones that really matter,

(31:53):
the ones that got them built this ship up. Like
everybody locked in.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know what I'm saying. Right up? So you think
this project about growth or what is about?

Speaker 2 (32:06):
Yeah, it's definitely about growth, man, because it's like, man,
we came in the game going against the grain, and
it's like, man, we fucked around and started start shifting shit,
going against the grain, and then like our sound became
so popular. Like it's crazy when we're when we're our
trap sound, we were trying to do like trap pop
type shit, like you know what I'm saying. We were
trying to push the trap sounding and see how far

(32:28):
how popular we can make that shit, you know what
I'm saying. So when we're working with somebody like a
Miley Cyrus, so we're doing songs like turn on the
Lights and having Future going that bad or like you
know what I'm saying, doing doing like different even Race Shremmer,
you know what I'm saying, that was like a trap pop.
Like once that shit started like pushing beyond Atlanta, Georgia,
the United States, you know what I'm saying, and just

(32:50):
our hemisphere, it's like, now that shit became a popular sound.
So then that shit just started becoming just too you
know what I'm saying, just started becoming bubblegum because it
was like everybody could just do this or everybody putting
this ship under the filter. Everybody everybody just doing what
we're doing. And that's the best form of flattery. But man,
to come back and come with a new sound, you

(33:12):
know what I'm saying, that sound fresh, and then work
with new artists that like, why be telling me, man,
I was in middle school when you dropped twenty three.
I'm like, God, damn, you know what I'm saying. But
to come and get hy b a new challenge and
beat or a new sound or do something different or
you know what I'm saying, and like taught that language
with like a whole new generation. Man, that shit, that

(33:33):
shit is dope. So it's like, man, I feel like, yeah,
this new album is like a new sound, that's new collaborations,
but it's still it's still stuck to the basics. It's
still like, Okay, Mike Will putting together different ass collaborations.
He's still bringing a new sound to different artists, and
and the shits still knocking.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Like, you know what I'm saying, Why nigga say you're
difficult to work with? I am?

Speaker 2 (33:57):

Speaker 1 (33:58):
I am.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
I'm challenging, challenging producer. You feel me like I ain't.
I ain't one of them producers. That's like, just wow,
this got on my beat. Well according to my phone,
you know what I'm saying, or trying to got there.
You know what I'm saying, I ain't doing that. Like
every win come with a challenge. You know what I'm saying,
Every win was difficult. But I ain't never heard Kobe
Bryant or Michael Jordan or any of the great say, man,

(34:21):
this shit was easy as a motherfucker. But I just
walked in there and just everybody just let me go
to the hole.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
And you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
It was strategy, it was thought, it was you know
what I'm saying, them changing Steph Curry, changing the game,
shooting from half court. You know what I'm saying, that's
what That's what made the Warriors got damn be the Warriors.
He spaced out the floor, you know what I'm saying,
Like Kobe Bryant, I mean Michael Jordan coming through, how
he coming through?

Speaker 1 (34:42):
He changed the game? You feel me?

Speaker 2 (34:43):
So like with me, it's like the reason why they
say it's difficult is because like nobody's nobody ever understands innovation,
you know what I'm saying. So if you, if you,
if you're an artist and you and you have a
certain sound, you know what I'm saying, and somebody trying
to you're something new and something different or like trying
to get you to do something different, and it's like, man, brother,

(35:05):
they got kind of you know what I'm saying, kind
on tight shit, Like you.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Know, Brott, ask you something. The niggas that you have
worked with, I don't know if they do one saying
you difficult, but like what's difficult is like do it
don't happen? Or do y'all make do y'all make a hit?
Or like what's difficult?

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Like Nah, the difficult part is like to get somebody
out of their comfort zone. That's just difficult in life
on all levels, you know what I'm saying. So when
you're trying to when you're trying to move like I
ain't in there on no shit, Like hey man, I
ain't on no drill, sergeant like wear that ass shit.
I'm just always coming in there on some man, let's
try this, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:42):
Have niggas ever been and try some shit and win
with you?

Speaker 2 (35:45):
But every time that what I'm saying is it's difficult
to win, you know what I'm saying. Nobody can say
they work with me and happened one though, you know
what I'm saying. Some people can say they work with
me and I was difficult. Some people could work with me.
It's a lot of artists that work with me and
be like, bro, you know what, I love working with you, brother,
because how open it is and how and how like
this ship just flows. Like you know what I'm saying,

(36:06):
It ain't really like you don't You're not really stuck
in a box like you trying different ship. Some artists
appreciate that ship. Some artists is like, man, I mean
you to everybody just coming in here hopping on a deck, man,
Like you know what I'm saying, this coming in here,
God damn trying to do some different ship trying to
God damn talk about this and that or or some

(36:27):
kind of different idea. Put me on the song with
this nigga, so like, man, man, get up, Like man,
he too different. But it's like and I understand that too. Yeah,
I got a vision. But when it's all said and done,
after the difficulty happens, man, we win. That's how that matters,
you feel me like, And I feel like that's how
that's how like a man. That's that's how every champion. Man,

(36:50):
what they say, hard work and dedication, you know what
I'm saying. So like, man, boy, you gotta work hard,
you gotta be dedicated. You just gotta stay down man,
Like That's why I love the game golf, man, because
that shit is difficult as fun. But you know what
I'm saying, You already know how I go. Man, You
swing that more fucking right. You keep your head down,
you say, folk, can you just trust that club? You
know what I'm saying, That more fuck gonna send it

(37:11):
right where you wanted to go. You know what I'm saying,
ward it up. But I feel like, man, I feel
like I don't know that. I feel like that's a
good thing. Man, I feel like all artists should be challenged, man,
you know what I'm saying. Like, as as a producer,
I don't think producers should just be running in there
super excited about you know what I'm saying, somebody rapping
on their beat or god damn, just excited to be
in the room.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
I get it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
But like, nah, like to change the game and and
and to be at where I want to be at
when I when I touched my first beat machine, I
talk about something. Man, I'm be on top of the
game one day. Man, i'ma be running this ship in
some sort one day. Like if I'm do this, I
already quit baseball, basketball, football, Pops is already on me. Like, man,
you keep quitting everything. I'm like, Man, I ain't gonna

(37:53):
quit this music. I'm gonna be that nigga when the
kind of this music. So it's like, man, the only
way you could be that nigga, Man, you gotta you
gotta stand up. I can't fit in. You know what
I'm saying, Go stand out up?

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Do you think do you think it's how important do
you think it is to like be raised by that
and you just hear that, Like how important you think
that ship is?

Speaker 2 (38:16):
Man, that ships so important because you gotta you gotta
as a man, you gotta be able to feel. You
gotta be able to feel the heavy hand of a
man like you gotta be able to you know what
I'm saying, Man, this nigga old Paul. No, but no,
you gotta do yeah. Yeah, as a man, you gotta yeah,

(38:42):
you gotta be able to be checked. And you gotta
be able to have a man tell you, man, shut
the fuck up. And you can't say nothing of your
gonna get stuck in your ship or you're gonna get
your ad wark.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
It ain't no fight, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
So like once you get that, now you now you're
able when you get out here in the real world,
you can take a straight or you can, you know
what I'm saying. You can let certain ship roll off
your sleeve.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
You can.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
You can listen to the message and not not be
mad at the tone of voice or anything like that,
because you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (39:10):
You ain't gotta be Yeah, you ain't gotta be no beach.
But it's like you gotta open ear, you know what
I'm saying. So I feel like I feel like, man,
that's real important, and shout out to my pops. Like
my parents divorced when I was when I was young,
like in elementary school, but pops stayed right around the corner,
you know what I'm saying. So even seeing my parents divorce,
I was able to see them start over, you know

(39:31):
what I'm saying, and like and like work hard and
like grind it up on their own and you know
what I'm saying, and start all the way up. I
was able to see them reset back then.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
The difference is with a niggas that was just raided
just by just only females.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
Sometimes like when it comes when when when when situations,
when situations get tough, This what I noticed, When situations
get tough and you go to, hey, bro, why the
fuck this happened? You know what I'm saying, The nigga
might feel extra try because I ain't no nigga ever
talked to them like a nigga like I don't talk
to me like that. Ain't no nigga talking to me
like that, you know what I'm saying, Cause the nigga

(40:08):
ain't never got CHECKINGI ain't got no older brother, no uncle,
no dad, or that nigga just used to mom like
hey stop boy, or like you know what I'm saying,
throwing them throwing them blows that don't don't hurt, you
know what I'm saying. So like sometimes sometimes they end
up having to having to like, you know what I'm saying,
eat humble pie. In another way in life, you know
what I'm saying, and shi word, you know what I'm

(40:30):
saying that that's what I know. That is just in
business or just in this world or just you know
what I'm saying. Moving around and.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Ship the state of the state of the music ship.
Do you feel like I'm gonna try this ship? Do
this like how you feel about your music period? I
love this ship, bro. You know what I'm saying about
the whole the climate of the whole ship. I feel
like I feel like it. I feel like right now
it's the changing of the guards. I feel like a

(40:56):
lot of people playing it safe, you know what I'm saying.
I feel like a lot of people trying to ride
the next person wave, or even I feel like, you
know what I'm saying, people too caught up and with
this person doing or this person doing instead of just creating.
Like you know what I'm saying, like, man, this is
what we're doing. This is how we moving, this how
were dressing, it's how we sound. And you know what
I'm saying, I feel like that's missing from the game

(41:17):
because when I was growing up watching the music game,
that's how it was. Like everybody.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Everybody had their own cruise, everybody had their own style
of music, everybody had their own like way did they
dress and different stuff like that. So like that's what
made it like even cool. That's what made people say
these kind of words or say this or say that.
And I just feel like right now, like people done
got so comfortable with either just redoing the song or

(41:42):
you know what I'm saying, remixing one of their old songs,
and it's just so easy where it's like it don't
cost no money. That got them dropped. Well, it costs
money to drop an album, but it don't you don't
got to go press up no CDs and shit and
ship it out. You feel me like, you can get
this shit done and and throw this shit out there digitally.
And if this shit started working a little bit digital
and you got this, this person trying to pour in

(42:02):
on it.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
You feel me, you're saying, you basically saying, ain't no
one way to win. And people got damn try. If
niggas ain't got damn in their little pack, you really
got damn different. So niggas try to make you different basically,
you know what I'm saying. So ship like, niggas do that,
Like if you got your own mind, your own state
on how you think ship should go, Niggas be like,
oh this nigga always think. You know, nigga, I might

(42:25):
do no this way, right, I might not know your way.
I might not y'all do that.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
And that's what and and and really, man, when you
look at it, man, the best song is the best collaboration,
you feel me, So the best song is the best collaboration.
The best song is like you bringing your way and
me bringing my way, and we collabed and we made
a new way. Like you know what I'm saying. That's
the That's the best song, you feel me. That's the
best album. That's the best anything. It's like the best.
That's it. It's just the best collaboration.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
You think you in the competitive space or just a
creative space.

Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, I'm competing with myself, you know what I'm saying.
And I'm in the creative space. I'm compete with myself
and I'm feeling like so I'm feeling so creative, like
I ain't gonna lie. I really, I really got to
a point where it's like, man, I'm competing against Like
I was trying to find that feeling that like twenty ten,
twenty eleven where I really wanted this shit and I
really wanted to like damn, but I need a place more.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Damn.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
I need to song on the radio, like, man.

Speaker 1 (43:21):
Look, you gotta chase a new chase. Yeah, you know
what I'm saying, Like like, yeah, I did that already,

Speaker 2 (43:27):
But now now it's like I got a record label,
so like now it's like, let me do that in
a new way. Let me put out my own music
and the licenses, or let me do a whole now
now with the production company how I set up. Now
it's like, man, we could do a whole motherfucking album
with somebody, Like it ain't nothing, It's just easy, you
know what I'm saying. So let me get that same
hunger that I had. But It's gonna be a new

(43:49):
challenge because now I'm doing the album. It ain't about
just a single no more you feel Me or either
now like I just another thing that's dropping tonight. I
got I got two songs on BTS, which is the
biggest biggest k pop group in the world. You know
what I'm saying. K pop is like it's a whole
other genres Korean pops. Bt BTS is the biggest group

(44:09):
from from Korea in the world. You know what I'm saying.
They're dropping the night too. So they took five years
or six years off because they had to go serve
the army over there. They were already the biggest in
the in the in the world, but in Koreas like
they had to go serve their army. So well, first
first first Korean artists I worked with was Jenny Jenny

(44:30):
Ruby James. She was part of Black Pink. Well she
still lives a part of Black Pink, and I had
like eight or nine songs on her. She she's huge
in the world. This was last year around this time,
around March, and and that that ship made a lot
of noise and then don't know about that, Oh yeah, sure,

(44:50):
global that global money.

Speaker 1 (44:52):

Speaker 2 (44:54):
That wasn't trying to sound media train, but I honestly
don't be thinking about the nigga that sitting thinking like that.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Bro, Probably I couldn't bro like a nigga could never
be my problem.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to figure out
how far we can push your sound from. Like you said, Okay,
do you feel like if niggas ain't in that hot space,
a nigga feel like you ain't hot, like because you
ain't in the mixed hot space, the nigga be going
somewhere in Korea getting a whole nother bad right.

Speaker 2 (45:21):
Oh, I said this nigga ignorant, the nigga stupid. He
just don't know, you know what I'm saying, Whatever nigga
is they're talking like that, it's like you don't know,
but it's cool.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You know what I'm saying. I'm not doing the feeling,
but make it still would make me feel away. I
can't see how you would fish.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
You.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
I look like a lay down ass nigga. That's not
to be one of Like I look like I would
lay down in any situation. Well, a person that's thinking
like that. Yes, he might look at it like that,

Speaker 2 (45:48):
But then but then when he watched his big Facts interview,
I mean, there's this prospective interview right here, or whoever
it is him or her, you know what I'm saying.
When they watch his perspective interview, they're like, God, damn,
I ain't know he was doing with BTS, it with Ginny,
or he was getting global. He was dropping global joints too,
like I thought he just started dropping like you know

(46:08):
what I'm saying. Or even when they when they watched
like Versus, when we turned up at Versus, a lot
of people might have known I did this so that
so on this home, but I ain't no I did that,
So you know.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
What I'm saying, they ain't seen that. Shn feel effect
like that? Do you think that Versus puts you in
the hot space?

Speaker 2 (46:22):
Though heah, yeah, highlighted ship. You know what I'm saying.
It was it reminded and it highlighted because it's like
certain people might have loved these fives home, but they
might not even know. And I had nothing to do
with formation humble, you know what I'm saying, DNA or
or or whatever like you know what I'm saying. Whatever
songs I played that man for for show, shout out

(46:45):
to hip Boy, you know what I'm saying. He played
them bangs that night too. And one thing I like
about what Swizz and Timbo put together with that ship
is like, you can't lose on versus you know what
I'm saying. You can't even be a loser and be
on versus. You know what I'm saying. You gotta be
a winner to be on versus what I'm saying. So
it ain't no certain thing as like losing a winning
on that ship.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
So I feel like.

Speaker 2 (47:06):
A lot of people, a lot of people might have
might have heard my tag in certain places, but they
never heard all them songs played that once, you know
what I'm saying. And I ain't never seen me perform
or a lot of people hit me up after that
ship was like, Bro, I ain't never seen you in
that in that zone. It's like, bro, because most of
the time when you see me, it's like at a setting.
I'm not walking around doing that.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
I ain't.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
I ain't never I ain't doing too much performing. You
feel me word, you know what I'm saying, but I
want to start doing tour now because that was fun.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
That was fun.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
You know what I'm saying, You gotta come out there
with me, Bro, real.

Speaker 1 (47:35):
Come on, you just turn me together. Want somebody, We're
gonna put it together. He wants somebody, Let do it.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
I ain't gonna lie when I first met Gucci. The
first day I met Gucci, That's what I told him. Bro,
I ain't even had no people. I was like, he
was like, it was crazy. I was like, Patroy. I
used to get my CDs pressed up. Yeah, really regular,
real talk and see a lot of times I saw
a Gucci in the interview. He said, man, Mike just
standing outside the studio, you know what I'm saying. And
he just he's just standing outside there. And that was

(48:09):
like his perspective, right, and it was dope to hear
that perspective. But really, what I was doing, I was
getting my CDs pressed up downstairs. So I might pay
two hundred dollars for Mike will Beat CD because all
my all my cause back then you couldn't like two
thousand and six, two thousand and seven, like you couldn't
email or bluetooth beat and ship. So yeah, you have
to burn CD. So I'm like, I used to go

(48:29):
to past work, pay my last. Boom, get these CDs,
Get these beats hanging around.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
You could be right at the front He wait, no
CD stalking Yeah, because you're saying something about them beats.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Yeah yeah, get them out, you know what I'm saying.
And I just and I just drove all the way
down here from card you know what I'm saying. So
I'm driving all the way from Card. I got my
last We ain't have uber and ship back then, you
know what I'm saying. So Pops might drop me off,
go handle whatever. He got a handle. I'm waiting on
the CDs to get printed up. Booe, he suckle back,
come pick me up. My boy Blaze was working at

(49:08):
the front door, you know what I'm saying. And then
so Boom, I would see Gucci. I ran into Gucci
one day. I was getting my CD freshed up, and
I gave him a Beat CD. He was freestyling to
it in the lounge and I went in there and
then he was like, man, I need the files of
this beat Man. It'd be hard to tell. I'm like,
all right, man, man, just hollert my people.

Speaker 1 (49:26):

Speaker 2 (49:27):
He knew I ain't had no people. He was like, man,
I'll fuck with you by your little player. You know
what I'm saying, right up?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Man?

Speaker 2 (49:32):
That start?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Man, do you ever feel like niggas tryed to you
like a country? Could you from cup?

Speaker 2 (49:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (49:38):
Ain't, I ain't. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
I ain't never ran into that, you know what I'm saying.
For real, Like I said, I met I met shot
at Low when I got damn sixteen the club Q.
You know what I'm saying. Card, You know what I'm saying.
And then like I met walking in the same club
like a year or two later. You know what I'm saying.
He were from the South Side, So that's how I
really got, yeah, for real from And I was too
young to getting the up back then, so that was

(50:01):
teenage j But I you know, I coming up out here,
you always hear like the jokes on cord like or
either they be like, oh yeah, I ain't Atlanta or whatever.
You know what I'm saying, So you hear that. But
I always thought it was like I always thought it
was either a because of how the police be tripping
or either be because Marta, don't go out there. You
know what I'm saying, I ain't. I ain't really understand it,
cause it's like, man, Nigga, we all from Jordan. We

(50:22):
are some country at Nigga for real, you know what
I'm saying. It's just it's just different sizes of town,
you know what I'm saying. But I done made history
form zone one to six man' I ain't never had that.
Oh by the Nigga A country at Nigga. God damn.
We ain't fucking with him, you know what I'm saying.
For real, we really laid the foundation. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
How you thinking people feel about you that there in
cod Man?

Speaker 2 (50:44):
They like, like I said, I'm doing it for the
believers and not the haters. There might be something, might
be some bombs out there that might be you know
what I'm saying, that might be feeling like whatever however
they feeling, you know what I'm saying. But then it's
a whole lot of believers out there that's like by
I knew he was gonna be it, but that niggas
stayed down. Bro. I remember when he was in this group.
I remember when they were performing over here. I remember

(51:06):
when he brought goddamn Him and Walker used to be
out here, and then Walker started rapping, and I remember
when they brought Gucci out here. I remember he brought
two chains out here for the first time. He brought
He came out with Pluto for the first time and
got damn like man. Then Nigga just stayed down and
he grinded all the way up while salute might But
you know what I'm saying, It's like, it's like like
watching the fucking plant. It's like watching one of these

(51:27):
trees just like growth on the ground and just end
up being one of the biggest trees.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
It's like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
Some people might be like, man, Nigga, that fucking tree, man,
fucking tree, he ain't got no fucking leaves or whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
They might find something about the tree.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
You feel me, But most people are gonna be like bro,
I remember when they won't even no tree right there,
Like you know what I'm saying, This bigg as a
motherfucker like so to be like one of the biggest
in the entertainment industry from my side of town, man,
that's like, you know what I'm saying, that's rare. You
know what I'm saying. It's a lot of real niggas
in card. You know what I'm saying, Salute to y'all
and and all of it that might salute me. You

(52:00):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (52:02):
You think you was squeezing the money a little too tight.
You just had like I didn't spend some of this shit.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Over the time, Like fuck yeah, well well not over
this reset time, but fuck yeah, bro, it took me
a long time to spend money. Bro, I ain't gonna
lie because I had I had post partner. Nigga also broke.
You know what I'm saying. Nigga think Nigga, think Ja?
Could you come from car? You know what I'm saying,
Like you're just born with a silver you know what
I'm saying, Like like Nigga, think Jack.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Can you come from car?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
You got a silver spoon in my I ain't come
from those silver store like, you know what I'm saying.
My pops from Jenkin Jones. I'm the only one from
both sides of my family from from Georgia. So my
pops from Jenkin Jones, West Virginia. It's probably like five thousand,
a thousand people out there he come from, like it's
fifteen of them. My grandma had fifteen kids, you know
what I'm saying. And and and she was a single mother.

(52:53):
You feel me raising all them?

Speaker 1 (52:55):
You feel me?

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Then my mom she from Cleveland, She from Cleveland, from Agewood,
you know what I'm saying. And boom, like her and
my dad marry each other. They had my sisters in Cleveland,
and then they moved down here. My PAP's got a job.
He moved down here, and my pops, my popsa on
some ship. Like man, you know what, I'm gonna move
my kids to this side of time because they said

(53:17):
it's a mixed side of town. So I want my
kids to grow up going to school with all kind
of different with white kids we're aging or whatever, you
know what I'm saying. So then they'll never feel like,
oh I can't approach this person, or this person too
good for me, or this person beneath me, or you
know what I'm saying. It's just like he just wanted
me to grow up with all of that. So that

(53:38):
was all Pop's vision. You know what I'm saying. Here
geans as well, you know what I'm saying, and so
when he came with that, you know what I'm saying, Boom,
I grew up out there and that might be the
reason why I'm like, man, damn, I want to take
my sound to a fucking career or I want to
work with somebody like my desirous or I want to
go do this that you know what I'm saying. It's
like it might come from that. You feel me so

(54:00):
so like yeah, man, you know what I'm saying, Like
like that that was a I was adult thing that
like even my pops and my mind, they held that
ship down. It's like, you know what I'm saying. They
were to both hardworking people, you know what I'm saying,
and like middle class black people, and they divorced and
started up and and I'm and I'm still trying to
figure out now, like damn, how did how we how

(54:23):
y'all made it this long? And how y'all and how
we made it this far? Like you feel me because
I'm the first person of my family like that that
came into some money like that, you know what I'm saying,
Like for real, yeah, came into some money, Like you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
I take it to another level for real.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
So like Pops, Pops planning that seed, haveing me boring
out there, going to school and car and then now
this ship and grew into a tree. Niggas shook up
the whole city of Atlanta. Nigga, it's hard to make
it out of this motherfucker right now. Yeah no, in fact,
you and I sitting in there right now.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Strategy.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I ain't gonna lie. Man, My pops sold me all
these buildings. He brought me over here. Yeah, he sold
me all these belding He do real estate. So he
was like, man, get that you know what I'm saying,
and get this one to next door. It just came
on the market. And this one just came on the market.
To buy that one.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
You know what I'm saying. That is that ship like
a boost of company because you, like you said, you
want spending the money. Once you start spending money actually
seeing the toys and seeing this ship and that ship, Like.

Speaker 2 (55:22):
I ain't a lie, I ain't a live seeing Dave
on your hat, you know you and Dave put the
better in my back. Two niggas, I won't even I
won't even know plane chain, no diamonds or nothing, y'all
were like, Man, y'all, but Mike, you gotta go plane
chain diamonds, bro. You know what I'm saying, Like, man,
straight up, bron y'all, y'all took me the different driller
like I would have different jewelry and ship. But I
was just like Mann, Bro, I don't know. Definitely do something.

(55:47):
Definitely do something to your confidence. Man. When you when
you start feeling these different engines and ship, you gotta
beat right here.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
You know what I'm saying. It's a real real drive.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
You got a mother fucking port wheel drive. This the
fastest thing on the street. Then you got an electric car,
then you go old school. It's like feeling those different
engines even even makes you got them respect the art
a different way. The speakers sound different, you know what
I'm saying. This song sounded different hearing this engine in
the background and all that type of shit. Even having
your own buildings and have your own studio, Man, you

(56:15):
ain't gotta leave at a certain time. You ain't got
an answer to nobody. You ain't gotta talk about what y'all.

Speaker 1 (56:20):

Speaker 2 (56:21):
Man, Oh, did y'all smoking and y'all smoking weed in
or whatever. You feel me like all of that ship bro,
and and and those investments bring a feeling that you
know what I'm saying, bring bring a different feeling, and
that sparks the creativity, you know what I'm saying. And
then when that sparks the creativity, you know what I'm saying,
you end up making a whole You end up doing
what I just did. You know what I'm saying, Like

(56:42):
just doing the reset and just you know, going up.
But ain now I have postpartum. Man. For for a
long time, I was't buy a ship. I'm like, man,
he we ain't going back.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
Man, you feel well, look at this ship. Man.

Speaker 2 (56:58):
But but hey, man out to like different mentors I got,
you know what I'm saying, The city, my nigga, Tread
like different people I've seen like buying different buildings and
ship like change. You know what I'm saying. Like that,
It's like, man, you know what I'm saying. Tread told
me like, man, hey, and you're making all that money
on music, bron Bro, you better go buy some dirt. Bro,
Go spend the money on the dirt. Fuck suck the

(57:20):
money being in the bank account. You gonna make way
more money with buying that dirt, you know what I'm saying.
And so him telling me that ship, I was like,
I'm like, dance, how much you think I need to spend?
He like all of it, Nigga. Go to your bank
account right now. Go spend everything you got, nigga, and
go buy all the thing you can find. You know,
I ain't gonna do all that, but I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go spend some ship. You know, real talking,

(57:43):
you know what I'm saying, And like just to see
even him, Yeah, even him come from nothing and god
damn build up and have all these different buildings in
the city and ship like that. Like I'm I'm a
type person that I'm always gonna listen to, you know
what I'm saying. O. G is in the big homies,
Like you know what I'm saying. Even my man lost
a man lost told me, man, first thing, first, you

(58:06):
gotta promise me, bro, no matter what. I don't care
what kind of building, I mean, what kind of check
they come with, do not sell these buildings, bro, Because
the first thing us black people what we want to
do is we want to get something flip it. You
know what I'm saying, like, do not do it, bro,
You gotta do it. You gotta keep this ship for
the people. Bro. Like you know what I'm saying, You
gotta build some legendary shit right here. You know what

(58:26):
I'm saying, Plant way more seeds right here.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
You feel me? Now, you came up in the time
of Atlanta when you really had to be outside the
hell of your business. What you think that the difference
between then and name then between then and now?

Speaker 2 (58:42):
Like, man, now, uh, certain people can be new to
the scene and take a picture next to a motherfucker
and a motherfucker come to my studio and take a
picture next to me and be like, they can feel
like they're just as successful or just as you know
what I'm saying. They might have got the instant gratifications,
might got a lot of likes, they might got a

(59:03):
lot of comments or whatever, and they might think, Man, hey,
I'm putting in the hard work. Man, what my motherfucking
building that with my motherfucking Porsche or my you know
what I'm saying, with my chain that you know what
I'm saying. But man, you ain't even did nothing. You
don't know how long it took me to even get
a chain. You know what I'm saying, the grind like
you feel me Like, it's like, sh it is so

(59:23):
instant now ship should is just on social media and
ship and there's a lot of fabrication going on that
that that man, people will get they're getting lost out
of reality. That'll be in the metaverse and world.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Bro. You know what I'm saying, we ain't had a
better version. You know what I'm saying, real talk.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Bro, So like this ship like that. Man, I feel like, man,
that's that's the major difference.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Bro. Like It's like, man, what was it competition or collaboration?
Might then?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Back then it was a little bit of both, you
know what I'm saying, Because it was collaboration cause ill
building my production team. And then I have people like
Gucci that believe in me. You know what I'm saying.
I have people like two Change, I believe in me, people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Like planing all around aural like like niggasill see a
nigga ground a nigga fuck with you? Back then?

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
Yeah, No, for sure, it was overly collaborate, collaborative. You
know what I'm saying. It's like, man, we'll go to
the studio make a song, everybody making a song, and
go to Magic on Monday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
Yeah, Like we we literally going to the studio and
the hardest song we made the night. But we're going
to Magic. We're going to honest, We're going to Platinum.
You know what I'm saying, We're going to Blue Flame.
And it's like and it's like, hey man, the city
fucking with this ship. Man, we need to go and
put it out. Like that's how we knew and we
need to put this ship out.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
When nigga start making the money and now that d
take get involved that like fuck up relationships.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, hell yeah and that and definitely when you have
like hey, yeah, definitely when you have like different people,
when the people that's around certain artists are around the creative,
when they trying to be the glue, you what I'm saying,
when they're not, when they're not trying to be like
sometimes they be sometimes they be the gas on the fire.
Sometimes they go to the creative and be like, man,

(01:01:09):
I might doing this, you know what I'm saying, Or Hey,
why this artist did that?

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
How difficult you is making you difficult? Yeah? Or like
they just yeah and they fucking up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
They fucking up the vibe where it's like, now you're
fucking up the collaboration, you know what I'm saying. That's
why I like to deal my whole career. I like
to deal straight with the artists, you know what I'm saying.
When all that tape and all that kind of stuff,
so I get involved, and it's like and to take
the fun out of it, you know what I'm saying.
I feel like that's not what got the city to
where it's at right now. Now Atlanta is like global, man,

(01:01:41):
we got a global sound. We we we are pop music,
you know what I'm saying. Where we used to be
like all that pop ship that nigga, We are pop
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, at the
end of the day, all that came I saw where
that came from. That came from collaboration, That came from
Shouted Low seeing me at sixteen years old, seventeen years old,
give me his number, let me come to his studio.
I used to go to Shota Lowe studio.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
One time.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
I seen shot of Low do a song. Everybody in
the room wrote the verse. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Everybody right in his life. You know what I'm saying,
This person might.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Say this, this person might say that, this person might
say this, This person might say that right in the
line for line. But they rapping it all together in
the room. You know what I'm saying, that he gonna
lay it down. They go right across street the Pool Palace.
Everybody in the studio don't know the know the words already.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Collected, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:02:27):
Broken, Yeah, next thing you know, they go to Crucial.
Everybody everybody at Pool Palace like, damn, what's song this is?
Now they running the back. Now everybody at Pool Pallet
know the song. Now they go to Crucier. Now, God
damn people that Crucier know the song. Now they go
to the city. But now I got down, they go
too or anything like that on any other side of town. Now,
I was like man brother man in West Side, shot

(01:02:48):
Low came in, got them one hundred, two hundred deep.
But everybody knew the goddamn song You feel Me, and
ain't nobody heard it. So you feel lame not knowing
this hard ass song that all these nigga know the song,
all the nigga know words too, And now you're starting.
Now you're looking for mixtapes and you're looking for how
you're gonna find this song? Like, but this song with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Jamming you feel me? Yeah, went on the internet. You
want to hear try it out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
You're like, man, I was seeing y'all moving, You know
what I'm saying, Like I'm seeing y'all moving, I'm seeing
y'all libro or wherever.

Speaker 1 (01:03:17):

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
I was already hip, but I'm like, I ain't no
bank there music too. You know what I'm saying. But
you know what I'm saying that try it out. Once
I figured out I got your number, Nigga, I'm blowing
you up. Hey, brother, this is your song.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Try it out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Bro Let get in the studio like man, Yeah, we're
gonna get in there. We're gonna get in there. Man,
Come on, brother, get in the studio. Brother, Like, man, Man,
we gotta come with another single.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Do you tell me? I'm like, hey, what you think
the biggest misconception by Atlanta is just to the outside brouh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
That's a vague that's a vague question. You know what
I'm saying. I guess they see so much. I guess
the words don't see see so much success come from collaboration.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
You know what I'm saying that they think everybody buddy buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:06):
Yeah, I guess they think like you know what I'm saying.
It's just it's just simple, Like it's just easy. Like
we all could just man, I could just get this
one on that one on the phone. We could all
just go right here and it's just gonna launch them,
you know what I'm saying. But like I said, it
be it be different people in the mixes. You know
what I'm saying, fucking up the fucking up the algorithm.
You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying,
or or or or maybe not even understand.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
I don't. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:32):
I don't know how the world look at Atlanta. I
feel like the world loves Atlanta. Bro To be real
with you, I don't know what the misconception could be.
Misconception could be that were not lyrical, or that we
not you know what I'm saying, what that were not
forward pushing. I remember people used to find on People
used to find on the fact that I had eight
A weights on my beats and that my beats was

(01:04:52):
knocking in and they were distorted and ship like that.
But the reason why I was coming like that is
because everybody at the studio that I'll pull up, they
had to clean mix, you know what I'm saying. But
the beats that when I came up, like working with
Gucci and different stuff like that, all that ship was
all My ship was sounding fucked up because it was
plugged up the wrong way, you know what I'm saying.

(01:05:13):
So once I started plugging my ship up the right way,
Walker used to be like, man, you need to go
back to that old sign, bro, that ship's just sound
nigga dirty, like you know what I'm saying. I'm like, damn,
I'm still trying to elevate, but I'm listening to the
old show. I'm like, man, you're right, you know what
I'm saying to the artists too. Yeah, I'm listening to
Walking too.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
My brother, we and Walking ain't even at this time
we had and did the song, but it was like
he was just telling me that. My brother, like, man,
you gotta go back to that, okay, you would come
come around. You did an Easterner and I was like, Damn,
that's when my ship wanted plugged up. Right then it's like,
you know what I'm saying, I'm taking When I expanded
the company and I got my boy Pete Nass, my

(01:05:50):
boy Mars, you know what I'm saying, Like they got
clean ass mixes. Like my boy p is a master engineering,
you know what I'm saying, so he cleaned up the whole,
you know what I'm saying. Him and Mars started coming
with they had the software, they had the fruity loop,
so they were coming with a with a whole new sound,
like you know what I'm saying. And then I would
take their sound and put the dirty on that shit,

(01:06:11):
you know what I'm saying, And then go to the
studio and then everybody like, what the hell? Why do
this shit sound like this? It's like it's dirty but
it's clean. It's knocking but it's kind of destroyed, or
it's too loud. But it's like in Atlanta, you gotta
be original, you know what I'm saying. When all coming up,
you had to be original. So that was that was
my originality. All my recipe, you know what I'm saying.
That every other producer had their own recipe, and shit,

(01:06:32):
you know what I'm saying. And we used to put
the shit under the filter and all that kind of stuff.
So that was our originality. But it's like I feel
like the rest of the world don't really know, Like
man two eighty five, that circle around the city, that's
really like a big ass pot, and it's like it's
so much talent in that pot, but you gotta be
original as a motherfucker to stand up and make it

(01:06:55):
up out of that pot, like you know what I'm saying.
And so I don't know if people understand the hard
work and the grind and and everything and and you know,
just anything ain't finna move the city. You gotta be
the ship to move the city, you know what I'm saying. So,
like I think a lot of people just think, like
I don't know what they think, you know what I'm saying.
But man, shit, I love this place. Man, you know

(01:07:15):
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
What's see Nowadys producers is just like artists too. They artists,
they sells, right. Do you think they getting the way
of the artists and I mean the rapper in the
producer relationship, you think they're like causes like a riff
because nigga like like me, but here, producer. You know
what I'm saying, Yeah, I ain't never look at it

(01:07:38):
like that, you know what I did look at it
like that time. But you get like bru God Damn
making the beat he put up looking like he's supposed
to be rapping this ship too.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
Yeah, man, you know you know what's crazy? Like man,
I'm I'm pretty sure like that type of shit is
going through motherfucker's head. But shout out to Gucci man,
Like man, my first time going to the studio with Gucci,
I remember shot A Red was in there, all the
producers that I looked up to was in there, and
I was nervous to play beats and he made me
put on my CD and all like man, hell now

(01:08:15):
he was like, nigga, you was starting beats. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
What I'm saying, You're gonna put that battery of your bad.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
So if if a person is looking at like, man,
this nigga producing for me, it's pulling up looking fresh
as me and looking fly as me. You know what
I'm saying, And that's a bad thing. That's weird, Like
he don't want nobody to shine. You know what I'm saying,
that's weird ass ship. You should want everybody around you
to be God damn, pulling up looking like I want

(01:08:42):
everybody around me, pulling up looking like I want everybody
in foreign cars. I want everybody. You know what I'm saying.
What you spend your money on, what you spend your
money on. But you know what I'm saying, I've been
flying since my baby pictures man. Shout out the Pluto
man with that bar. You know what I'm saying, I've
been flying to my baby pictures man, Like my mom
and my sister want to let me go out the
house dirty and shit or my shirt wrinkleer all that

(01:09:03):
kind of shit they used to make me iron my ship.
You know what I'm saying, wash up. You know what
I'm saying. Like some nigga won't even take a shower
for a long time, you know what I'm saying. So
like you know what I'm saying, My folk made me
wash up, Like you know what I'm saying, Like put
on some clean clothes. God damn, you know what I'm saying,
and then I just naturally start growing older. I just
you know what I'm saying, Just paying attention to the

(01:09:23):
culture and just everything going on. It's like, man, it's
hip hop. Bro, it's all about the new, the new,
like the new shoes, the new clothes, the new card,
a new wash, new da da dah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
So we all a fan of the same shit.

Speaker 2 (01:09:37):
So I don't know anybody who just sitting around just
sizing somebody up about what they bought, knew what they
were afford, what they were able to afford.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
And the time every time you had just never say
what the fuck? I'll be trying to get you to say.
But it's cooln he said, talk about that, Bro. I'm saying,
like you have you seen niggas like, oh, he's slick
holding it?

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:10:05):
He feels like, aren't supposed to be able to be me?
You know it be people like that like see you
come from something and be like, Bro, you ain't even
supposed to be able to be you ain't maw ship,
but it happens.

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
That's weird too, though, Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
It is weird, but it happens though, Like you're trying
to like you just you just slow the nigga. You
will see you No, no, you see this, but I
ain't know you were asking me to confirm this.

Speaker 2 (01:10:29):
I thought already, it's already that's already understood.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
But I don't Yeah, that's already understood. It's understood.

Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Ain't gotta be talked about. I just float over it
because I don't even I don't acknowledge that ship, so
I don't I don't see motherfuckers looking at me like that.
You you know what I'm saying, That ship like bro,
like them, same type of people like that. Nobody has
ever came to me and said, Mike, Man, why you
got on this and why you got on that? Or
why you know what I'm saying or like that. You
know what I'm saying. Certain people might be like, oh man,
he doing too much as far as like you know

(01:10:57):
what I'm saying, or he trying to put his task
on there he trying to God.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
Damn, you know what I'm saying, Go go promote this record,
and but it's like I gotta do this. How you
feel when the nigga don't want you to put your
tag on your beat? Like, take the tag? How that
make you feel? Just take the beat, take the beat off.
You know what I'm saying, Put the lyrics you feel
me put the lyrics out. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
At the end of the day, Man, I just seen
people move the instrumentals. I ain't really just seeing people
move to a cappellas unless they know the song. You
feel me and and and and there was a beat
that called him first, you know what I'm saying. But
so it's like, that's what I'm saying, Like these songs
are about the best collaborations, like them, type of niggas
that you're talking about, Bro, We all know them, type

(01:11:41):
of niggas. Them, type of niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
Bro. I literally do not see I literally float over.
I can see. Yeah, I need to get my vision, chick.
I don't see too good.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
No, I can see them. I can see them, but
I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I don't. I don't see them. You know what I'm saying.
Trying to get you never say never hell never will.
Yeah you DoD bro, you're at peace. So you feel
like you're at peace.

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
Man as far as with a nigga, Hey, yeah, you.

Speaker 1 (01:12:09):
Know what I'm saying, Bush, just like a peace in
your life.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Like, no, it's always turbulent, you know what I'm saying.
It's always ups and downs in life. You know what
I'm saying. I just feel like a nigga could never
be my problem. How a nigga feel about me or
you know what I'm saying, or whatever, how a nigga
view me or whatever. You know what I'm saying. You're
trying to give me the dim my light because I'm shying.
I can't help that ship. Bro, I'm shine in the dark.
You know what I'm saying, breaking, but you ain't broken
all these years? Fuck with niggas gonna think niggas now

(01:12:37):
fuck me. I'd be like, Bro, I won't punch in
the ship. You be like, bro, fuck because you gotta
think I'm saying, niggas going home punching the air that
you the ship.

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
You know what I'm saying, They punching the wall and everything.
Many mean girl puts that break your jack.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
That's the type of ship that just trickers off the street.

Speaker 1 (01:12:56):

Speaker 2 (01:12:57):
And position Yeah, and it's like man, man a nigga, Man, Bro,
I know better, Bro, I know that shit. I know
like anybody who looked like me. Bro, do you not
my enemy? Bro? Whatever you're thinking in your mind, I
thought like that before. You know what I'm saying. I
used to be like that all that type shit. Bro,
I thought like that I had that training thought at
one point.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
Now that got here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:18):
I'm not trying. I'm not your problem. You got something
going going on within, brother, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
So if I'm sitting here like, man, look at this nigga, now,
I'm doing the same thing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
He doing to me. I don't see him doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:31):
He going through some personal shit. I gotta go over
here to my studio and work on this. I gotta
go play golf with bank. I gotta go take care
of mind dukes. Them same type niggas that look at
it like that, ain't even about their mama Bracelet you
know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, Or
ain't about their mama house, or ain't about they folks?
Nothing like you feel me like, I don't know you

(01:13:51):
got twenty four hours in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Dig So do you think it's some gates? Yeah, you
just said this nigga. Here they all pulling that ship.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
But the niggas see everything, you know, boy, they niggas
see everything I can see, because I mean, I'll be
asking used to ship sometimes like you see something, You'll
be like, no, try to see how I feel first
about No, what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Then I started telling what happened to be like, yeah
that she was fraid I did see something like that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:18):
Bro, you's some bullship Like I know you Bro, that
nigga tell the whole story and to be like oh word,
oh that that one thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:27):
Bro. You know you saw the own ship like the bubble. Bro.
What I'm saying, I'll be seeing the ship, bro. But
it's all about what you spend your time on. Brother.
Talk like man, yeah, peace for real ship and let's

(01:14:55):
jump into the reset before we get out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
By drop We're dropping. We have a tournament, yeah, man,
tournament on Monday, man. You know what I'm saying, second
annual Man Made It Day classic. Man. We did a
bid last year. You know what I'm saying, banking them
took on the trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
Yeah, we're doing that again this year. You know what
I'm saying. I always jump around and play you know
what I'm saying, different groups, But man, we run out
of private course in Atlanta, you know what I'm saying.
We take donations and all that kind of stuff, and
we use that with my with my non profit organization
Making Wishes Matter or back into the community and just
you know what I'm saying, keep pushing it forward, you
know what I'm saying. But I feel like, man, that's

(01:15:35):
the best way.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
To bring It's a couple of mons. It's a couple
of months with man.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
This year we're a country Club of the South. You
know what I'm saying. Country Club of the South. Man,
it's private. So you got an R s v P.
You know what I'm saying. And man, I feel like, man,
it's so lick because the music be out there, like
the club, weather be cool, big cigars, everybody right there,
just everybody. Ain't nobody looking at And why he got

(01:16:02):
on this when he got on that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
It's a different environment, you feel me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
That's why I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:16:08):
But you still be seeing you got you gotta think.
We hated to let you say. I know you do
because you're a cant tell me, but don't say it like,
oh yeah, I kind of saw like you said, I
was strolling. I seen the Hitler, but you saw the
whole thing just strolling Bard Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:16:25):
You gotta think, Man, we be in the wood a
portion of our day, a fourth all day or third
all day. We'll be in the woods either we're hiking
or playing golf, you know what I'm saying, So we
can catch up in the car while were riding to
the studio. But then when we go to the studio
and we're locked in on this, I'm going home. I'm
doing what I do at home.

Speaker 1 (01:16:43):
Believe me. You know what I'm saying. You know I'll
be seeing these ship. Matter fact, I showed you. You
still you telling another mother fucker? Like for real? Reset, Reset, Like, hey,

(01:17:04):
what else this man? Reset?

Speaker 3 (01:17:05):
Man?

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
It's trying to brand commercial, commercial, commercial coming out.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
Man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
And about a week or two with Cash shop Man,
shout out the bank put up on me. Man, we
got to made it pro golf brand. You know what
I'm saying. First commercial with Cash shop Man, that ship
launching at the golf tournament. You know what I'm saying,
that's you. That's dope as a motherfucker, man, Like that's
it was hard. And I scored the whole ship. You
know what I'm saying. They got some of the tracks
from Reset on that motherfucker. And man, man, it's our man,

(01:17:35):
it's just all new, all new collaborations, all new energy.
You know what I'm saying like ship, man, this ship.
I get what you're trying to do. You're trying to
get me the God damn say some clickbait as man
for real academic.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
I'm trying to but you ain't gonna do it. You
don't even do it in real life. Yeah, I don't
do that. I be knowing you be knowing that. Man.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
It's like it's like, man, everything come across the table,
you hear everything.

Speaker 1 (01:18:03):
You've never done that. Somebody gonna break you. I rather
be me if you're gonna around. I feel I'm coming back.
When I felt like that I'm coming back whatever, yeah
real when I started seeing this, Yeah, but I'm starting
acknowledging that I'm gonna come back here in for real.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
But nah, man, the album Man was just it's just
like different people that you wouldn't even expect, Like T's
on Ludacris, Like nobody expect that collaboration, you know what
I'm saying, Like uh, Chief keeping young Boy, nobody expected
that collaboration. Like dree Killer Mike, nobody's seen that collaboration yet,
you know what I'm saying, Like J Money, Caribou and Anicia.

(01:18:48):
I've never worked with any of them. You know what
I'm saying. I never worked with Killer Mike before. I
never worked with you know what I'm saying. I see
it sharm like you know what I'm saying. Yeah, And
when they hear the whole album, they're like, damn, my
favorite album is who Sid Sharr Damn he hard like
you know what I'm saying, Who is that? Like? He
already famous in India. He the man over there, you

(01:19:09):
know what I'm saying, and in the Indian culture, but
it's like, man, we he's an artist that man y'a.
I love working with Sid because he's an artist that,
like I can go in there, I can challenge him.
I can play him every beat that he's never got
on in his life. He's gonna say, pull it up,
going to booth and his voice is just gonna kill it.
I could play him a beat that sounded like, Yo, man,

(01:19:30):
this is a beat I made for like on some
jay Z Kanye Ruts your Throne type shit. He gonna
get on there and make it his ship, you know
what I'm saying. Make it a whole new sound, same
thing I can make it. I can play him some
shit that sounded like twenty one savage type beat man.
He gonna get on there and make it his own sound.
So it's like shout out to sid Man. We did
a whole album that's that's also coming next with Sway

(01:19:53):
Lee coming next, and then see it coming after Sway.
But yeah, man, I ain't see Little Green. I always
want to work with Selo. Man. That's when the goats
out the city so fat. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
Like being able to do something with him. And then
we did like a like a inspirational, like slick gospel
type record. You know what I'm saying that Man, that
shit just beautiful at the end, you know what I'm saying.

(01:20:15):
And that's to me, it sounds like you just feel
like the city just sounds like the city too.

Speaker 1 (01:20:19):
You know what I'm saying. It sounds like you're going
in the gospel category and winning some ship, winning the bro.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
I like when you say that, Brose, you know when
I want my first Grammy, I told you I ain't
think I was gonna win. You called me and said, bro,
You're gonna win the Grammy tonight, and I told you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
Like, Manie know, hey, hey, this nigga bank different. Bro
ain't no lie Man. I always remember.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Bank with the gold teeth big sitting around the city,
and I remember goddamn duct tape and everything, but I
ain't know who did what and what.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
But Man, the more I got to know Bank, I'm like, Man,
this niggas a fucking genius, man, This niggas a marketing jeans.
The niggas a fucking a genie. You know what I'm saying,
Niggau Unicorn and all that shit. Real talk, brou real.

Speaker 1 (01:21:01):
Talk, though. You know what I'm saying. Now, you're trying
to go up though.

Speaker 2 (01:21:04):
Mike definitely trying to go up, man, reset.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
Man, gratulations on them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:08):
Man, appreciate that, bro, Man, Congratulations perspectives, bro Bit fast ship,
show everything you do, Nigga, that's the tight ship. I see,
you know what I'm saying. I see my niggas going up, bro,
and I see everybody who really believe. Like I told you,
like this go around right here is for the believers
and not the haters. Br So many people that believe
in me, Bro, And there's so many people that, you

(01:21:28):
know what I'm saying, Even when even when I want
to drop a music like a nigga like Dave, he
ain't even in the music business. You know what I'm saying,
resting piece of duct Tate, Dave, he not even in
the music business.

Speaker 1 (01:21:37):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:37):
This man pulled up on me religiously and told me,
every day, Mike, drop this ship the biggest You do
this ship for six hours straight every day. We're smoking, man,
we're smoking, got down ten blunts every night. Man, you
know what I'm saying. I missed my nigga, Dave, you
know what I'm saying. And a nigga like nigg like
Bank on my phone like man like you, man, you

(01:21:59):
motherfucking bullshit. Man the fuck man, you're acting like you
ain't the biggest motherfucker producing the motherfucking world.

Speaker 1 (01:22:03):
Niggas like you. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
So yeah, you're charging the nigga up. So like now
that the nigga popping back out now nigga click back in,
like and realizing who I am and like, you know
what I'm saying, understanding myself and everything like that, and
understanding y'all perspective and everything like that. It's like, man,
it's tiking to go up.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
I do it. I do it for you. I do
it for us.

Speaker 2 (01:22:25):
You know what I'm saying, Hey, yeah, I do it
for us. So then like, well, you know what I'm saying,
when anything dropped, when this album dropped the night, they're
gonna be like, bro, this ship no skips. You know
what I'm saying, When motherfucker, when motherfucker hear the album
and be like, no skip. First thing they're gonna do.
Car Bank, you might might Nigga drop the album, but skips. Man,
You've been saying that Nigga might were hard. But I

(01:22:47):
ain't gonna lie. I ain't know you down you feel me?

Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
And is it ain't familiar right now? I like that
ship is just some dope ship. Yeah, you know what
I'm saying. You know saying real shit, Nigga be back town.
You put this shit out though real switched it up
a lot, switched up a lot of shit, a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:23:07):
Because in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty one, twenty
twenty two, I was working on a project called atl
I Appreciate the Love, you know what I'm saying, And
then and then I transitioned to doing a project called
R and B Brish Nigga base, and they were like
like more melodic rap type shit, you know what I'm saying.
Then it was like somebody was like, man, you need
to do Ransom three, and I was like, man, I

(01:23:27):
don't want to do another sequel. And then me and
Andre three thousand I had a conversation about man, albums
being like sequels and all that different type shit, you
know what I'm saying, And he felt the same way.
He was just like, man, yo, I ain't gonna lie. Man,
when when albums come out of sequels or when artists
do sequels and shit just seemed like they're trying to
be as big as a movie, So you know what

(01:23:48):
I'm saying. Like when I heard them say that, like man,
that shit clicked. And I was working with my boy Derek,
you know what I'm saying on some videos and even him,
you know what I'm saying. I was just talking to
him about the whole ship. He was like, man, sounds
like you went through like a reset. Like man, you
know what, I've been trying to find a way to
do Ransom three. You know what I'm saying, So man,
you know what reset, I'm gonna spell it R three

(01:24:10):
s CT you know what I'm saying, because people still
don't even know that Ransom I mean, yeah, Ransom stuff
for releasing all new songs orchestrated by Mike. Will you
know what I'm saying. So I'm like, Man, we gotta
go Ransom three or reset, you know what I'm saying.
And it's like, man, and it ain't gonna be like
we're starting over. It just we resetting back up, like
you know what I'm saying. So like, man, like I

(01:24:30):
ain't gonna lie. Man, this motherfucking album I'm proud of.
I feel like this is the hardest shit I ever did.
I feel like all the music I dropped, and Man,
that motherfucker going in Atlanta right now, that ship going
while I went in the cloud out of the night.
Man DJ ran that ship back about three four time.
He didn't even know I was in there. I was
in the cut and I had to go up there
to the DJ before them. Man, But shout out to

(01:24:52):
all the DJs in Atlanta. Man, that's supporting. They were
supporting their rooms and they supporting their standing ovation. You
know what I'm saying. Shout out to all the DJs
in Atlanta. Man, that's where the ship starts every time,
and the ship spreading well. Shout out to DJs everywhere
that's playing that ship for show. You know what I'm saying.
I just always like to say that because that's what
we're planning to seed.

Speaker 1 (01:25:11):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:25:11):
I feel like Atlanta is is a is a fucking man.
It's the soil, man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:25:17):
It's the soil.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:25:19):
We're locked in, Man, you got anything else you want
to talk to tell the people who get out there?

Speaker 2 (01:25:23):
Ah, man, ship, Man, stay tuned. Man me and bank,
me and bank me and bank from the keep going up. Man, Yeah,
lock in and ship. Don't tell nobody what you can
and can't do. And man, float a body, nigga, be
at peace, man.

Speaker 1 (01:25:36):
You know what I'm saying. Quit looking at these niggas, Man,
paying attention to these niggas. Bro, be at peace. Bro.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
Anytime you feel any of that type of energy, man,
just look out of the way and scroll past the
ship and them be.

Speaker 1 (01:25:47):
Like huh real yeah, oh no. You know what I'm saying.
My granddad always told me brou He.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Like many some people just want to argue as soon
as you see a person want to argue. As soon
as you see a person, God damn, you'll be like, man,
oh man, my bad man. Are you right to walk
on the way? Man, You're gonna waste too much time
fumbling through all that, you know what I'm saying, So shit,
ye yeah, man, pay attention to the bigger picture. Man,
see that ship through. Man, that shit gonna come to life,
you know what I'm saying. I'm gonna just continue to

(01:26:14):
be a living, living testament.

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Of that shit. Y'all. Go get the abb the night reset.
We'll see y'all at the tournament. Yeah, a tournament on Monday.
Get that golf give Yeah, that's all. Tour this year.
We're going on tour this year for the first time.
Make se y'all likes to strive. Coming to the Big
Fat Network.

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Another episode of Perspectives with Big Bank.

Speaker 1 (01:26:36):
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