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September 30, 2024 41 mins

Dan thinks New York Jets HC Robert Saleh is the problem. He explains the MLB playoff clinching scenarios at stake for today’s Mets/Braves doubleheader. And NFL insider Chris Simms stops by to break down Week 4 of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Tyler sitting by. We'll get to your phone calls and
we say good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, our
streaming partner, also iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio as well. Chris
Simms from Football Night in America. We'll join us coming
up here in a little bit. Big Poppy will stop
by a little bit later on, and the broadcaster probably
had the best weekend. Chris Vallor from the Mothership. He

(01:08):
was on the call of Georgia and Alabama and a
couple of memorable calls in one of the best college
football games we've seen in a long, long time. Tonight
we have football with the Titans at the Dolphins. The
Titans are getting two and a half. The Seahawks at
the Lions. The Seahawks are getting four and a half.
All right, we have a Play the Day poll, question

(01:29):
stat of the Day, all of that coming up. Recapping
with the Vikings four to no. Buccaneers roll, the Eagles,
Commanders over the Cardinals Ravens. They run all over the
Buffalo Bills. The Chiefs squeak by the Chargers, but maybe
some injury concerns there. The Colts over the Steelers, and
the Broncos over the Jets. Let me start with that

(01:51):
game because I'm watching the game and I keep waiting
for the Jets to be something other than the Jets.
We know Jetsy and football, and they keep making mistakes.
They're going up and down the field. Denver's a pretty
good defensive team, not a good offensive team. You have
a quarterback who had minus seven yards. I think on
seven completions, which is hard to do. But you're still

(02:14):
in the game, and then all of a sudden you
have a chance for a field goal to win it.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
And it's sounded like this.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Her line from fifty to give the Jets to lead,
fifty one seconds to go.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Out of the hold of more staff.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
The snap, the placement down, the kick is on the way,
it's got plenty of distance.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
He it is no good.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
It floated right. Heartbreak for the Jets. That's sir, line.

Speaker 4 (02:41):
Had it curve off to the right and you can't
hit from fifty Hende. Looks like the Broncos will hold
on and win this game by a point.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Courtesy of the Jets Radio Network. Now, if you've listened
to the show, you know that I don't think Robert
sala is a head coach. You know he's a defensive coordinator.
But I and there's so many things that go into
being a head coach. If you're just a defensive coordinator,
you worry about being a defensive coordinator. He's got to
worry about a lot of things. He's got to worry

(03:11):
about leaks in the building to the media, going to
a press conference, trying to explain why he keep somebody
or got rid of somebody, And then he was asked
this question after yesterday's loss.

Speaker 6 (03:24):
Last I think you guys with one or two in
the NFL tylie's now this year, I think you're four.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
What needs to change to clean it up?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Well, we got to figure it out whether or not
we're good enough to handle all the We're ready to
handle all the kittens. Caden's had not been an issue
all camp felt like our operation had been operating pretty good.
Obviously today it took a major step back.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Okay, here's Aaron Rodgers on the pre snap penalties the.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Cadence specifically, Robert said, there might be something you guys
have to dial back a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Is that something you think could actually help the situation?

Speaker 7 (04:02):
That's fun way to do it. The other ways hold
them accountable. Man, we haven't had an issue. We've had
one false start. Morgan had one false start, I believe
until this so it's been a weapon. We use it
every day in practice. We don't you know, we rarely
have a false start, and they have I don't know
five today it seemed like four or five. Yeah, it's
it seems like an outlier. I don't know if we
need to make mass changes based on you know, kind

(04:23):
of an outlier game.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Wow, I like that.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, Aaron Rodgers has had the same call at the
line of scrimmage. What is it green nineteen grade nineteen,
not twenty years. That's his cadence. There is nobody who
is better at the line of scrimmage and getting you
to jump, but his his cadence is the same. It's

(04:50):
Green nineteen Green nineteen. Oh my god, it's just Jetsy
and football. They have the talent, they have weapons, defense
is good. This is coaching. It just is it's coaching.

(05:10):
And you know, we may look back on this loss
and say, oh that Jets didn't make the playoffs, didn't
make the wild card. Look at the division right now.
Buffalo just got roughed up. The Dolphins don't have Tua,
Patriots don't know who they are. You have a great,
great opportunity here. Imagine being three and one, three and

(05:34):
one now all of a sudden, get some confidence there.
And I also would go back to you know, we
kind of dismiss preseason. Maybe if people play in the preseason,
we get the cadence worked out here. But this is
kind of crazy. Aaron Rodgers has not changed his cadence.

(05:55):
But all of a sudden, these pre snot penalties, just
silly things. Those little things add up and cost you
a football game and may cost your head coach a job,
may cost you a playoff Berth. It's these little things
that mean a lot.

Speaker 3 (06:11):
All right.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Recapping college football, I mentioned Chris Fowler will join us
a little bit later on Alabama holds off Georgia. I
mentioned on Friday this was a perception game for Kaylin
de Boor replacing Nick Saban. This was a perception game
with Jalen Milrow because he was now going to have
the stage in a big game and he was going

(06:33):
to become a top two or three Heisman candidate if
all things went well they won the game. He played well. Now,
I had him on my ballot last year at the
end of the year, and I think I had him third.
So I have first, second, and third for the Heisman Trophy,
and I put him third because I did think that
he could be maybe the best player in football.

Speaker 8 (06:55):
Now.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
The reason why I say that is I have had
somebody at Alabama who was very keen on Jalen Milroe
and almost he needed to be allowed to do more,
and we were starting to see that this year. I
thought at the end of the year he was as
good as anybody, as valuable as anybody, and you saw
that against Georgia. But I can look at this and

(07:17):
Kaylin de boor all of a sudden, it's like Nick Saban,
who to, does coach want to come back for the
second half here because we might need him against Georgia.
But that was back and forth, big plays, and that's
what you want. You want a game like that. Although
you know you're looking at the faces of Georgia fans,

(07:39):
they're like what is going on here? To then looking
at the Alabama faces like what is going on here?
You haven't had too many games in recent memory where
you had both fan bases going what is going on here?
Back and forth, back and forth, and then Alabama pulls
it out.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
Yes, Marvin, what I.

Speaker 9 (07:56):
Love about this is there's an opportunity for these two
teams to meet up two more times this season. I'm
ready for all of it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Well, I know it was awesome. It was a lot
of fun. Also, Colorado against Central Florida that will probably
get pushed to the side, but it shouldn't because that
was an impressive win for Colorado to beat Central Florida
on the road down in Florida. And I still think,
you know, they still have the Heisman Trophy leading candidate.

(08:24):
I think I think Travis Hunter is the best best
player in college football. He might not win the Heisman,
he might not be showcased enough, but I do think
he is spectacular. So I got a chance to watch
that Miami escape Virginia Tech, and Kentucky dropped Old Miss
at Old Miss. If there wasn't a twelve team playoff,

(08:48):
Lane Kiffin might be.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
Well, not his vocals.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
He probably will still be because he's always kind of snarky,
which I love.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
But Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You look at Kentucky and you go they almost beat
Georgia and then you go to beat Old Miss, a
top five team at Old Miss. That was impressive as well.
All right, seton what's pole question we're going to have today,
At least for the first town of the program.

Speaker 10 (09:12):
I think we might start right there. Worst loss of
the weekend, we can throw Ole Miss right at the
top of that list. Man, good grief twenty seventeen to Kentucky.
Georgia losing just that game was unreal loving to Alabama.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Yeah, but that's not a bad loss.

Speaker 10 (09:32):
In the context of you almost had an amazing comeback.
I mean you did come back right up until thirty
seconds later you didn't.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Well, yeah, trying to erase that first half where you're
watching Carson Beck and going he's a first round draft pick,
to the second half where you go, hey, first round
draft pick. I guess all together, now, Ryan Williams is seventeen,
seventeen year old. I get got to the point where

(10:04):
I just kept whenever his name was going to be called,
of you, he's seventeen. You know, he's seventeen. And the
fact that he I guess skipped his seen he reclassified,
skipped his senior year, and that's why he's playing as
his seventeen year old. But yeah, you know, you have
these different makers. You know some of these. You know,

(10:24):
Ohio State it's got one as well. You all of
a sudden, you see these guys and they got to
stay around for three years before they can go pro.

Speaker 9 (10:34):
Yeah, Marv, do you think you start seeing this a
little more often where guys, you know what, why play senior?
Why play another year of high school football when I
could just play college football right now and just skip
all this right here.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Well, I wondered about that, but how many players have
that maturity capability to be seventeen years of age playing
major college football.

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Not many.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Adrian Peterson is the one who stands out where I go.
That guy could play in the NFL now his freshman
year at Oklahoma. I don't know how many players are
capable of doing that. There's a lot of talent, but
you know, you're trying to mature. Your body has to
be ready. I mean, he's really he's small, he's thin,
but he's awesome. So it was fun. So that's the

(11:19):
pole question. Seat, And are we just going to go
with the worst loss over the weekend?

Speaker 3 (11:22):
Yeah, we have.

Speaker 10 (11:23):
We're gonna put Jets Broncos on there, although I might
also do a subpole question, which is worse how the
Jets lost or how the Broncos won, because I'm not
really sure. I still feel like the Broncos ultimately lost
that game, even though they came away with the win.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I'll take a bad win, right, Fritzy every time. Yeah,
but that was embarrassing. It was I think the Steelers
losing to the Colts. That one was one where you go.
Oh my goodness, this is this is a feel good story.
Justin fields the defense. Oh my god, Bengals aren't good,
Browns aren't good. Hey, we can go nine to eight

(12:00):
and have another winning season, maybe make the playoffs. And
then all of a sudden, if I'm the Steelers and
I see Joe Flacco, I'm like, uh, oh, we're in trouble.
Anthony Richardson he giveth and he taketh the way. So
if I'm the Steelers, like, don't hurt Anthony Richardson. Here's
Joe Flacco, and Joe Flacco is eight days older than

(12:22):
Anthony Richardson's mom. I think that's right. I think I
think I mean, Joe Flacco just bring him in. They
should give him a couch on the sidelines. They should
or like a you know, a recliner there, Joe, you
need me, yep, come on in, all right, yeah, Pauli.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Joe Flacco is the same age as two and a
half Ryan Williams as he's seventeen seventeen. That's why.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, uh right, So uh we'll get to your phone calls.
Best and Worst of the weekend Chris Sims from Football
Night in America Chris Fowler will join us, Big Poppy
will join us. And there's a situation with the end
of the season here and it has to do with
the Braves and the Mets.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
They play each other.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
They have a double header, and the only way the
Braves don't make the playoffs if they get swept. The
only way the Mets don't make the playoffs if they
get swept. If the Braves and Mets split the double header,
then they're out. The Diamondbacks would clinch a birth if

(13:34):
there's a sweep in the double header, doesn't matter which
team does it. So it's kind of crazy. And then
we wondered, if you're the Mets and Braves, can you
just say we're going to forfeit these two games, because
that's that's there's a lot of speculation there that why
don't they just say, hey, we forfeit these games and
then they both make the playoffs. We had Todd reach

(13:58):
out to Major League Baseball. Did they respet?

Speaker 5 (14:00):
They did?

Speaker 11 (14:00):
I got the word no.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
As far as any scenarios where they can play just no,
not a rude no, just no. Of course not. The
Diamondbacks are involved.

Speaker 11 (14:10):
So they can't do that because if the Mets and
Braves split the doubleheader, then the Diamondbacks are out. The
Diamondbacks have to see what happens in these games. They
still have a chance to make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yes, no, I would love to be in the offices,
you know, whether it's the NBA, Major League Baseball, the NFL.
They're just walking in there. They're starting their Monday and
then we're we're sending an email. Hey, just wondering. No,
I haven't even had my coffee yet. We've heard from Fritzy.

Speaker 12 (14:40):
Yes, and these double header teams today, they have to
play tomorrow night. So d Backs Mets, one of them
will play the Rwers, Dbacks, Mets, one of them will
play the Padres.

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Unless it goes weird for the Diamondbacks.

Speaker 11 (14:52):
And the Braves are the Mets would have to go
all the way across the country to San Diego for
a game tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (14:56):
Okay, so they'd be the number five seed in all
these scenarios, and then they would go to San Diego.
That is, if the Braves win or the Mets win.
Is that how this worked. I'm trying to figure this out,
but I do know that. Let's see, so if the
Mets sweet this is going to drive people crazy. Sweep

(15:20):
the doubleheader, then they're the number five seed and they
play San Diego. If they split, then they face the Brewers,
and then the brave scenario, they are the number five
seed in all the scenarios would go to San Diego.
If they win either game of the doubleheader or both,
they're going to go to San Diego. I think we

(15:41):
got that right, do we dare ask Big Poppy to
try to explain that.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
What did baseball get so coplicay?

Speaker 11 (15:47):
I thought it was was the NFL in the last
week or two of the season where we go through.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
These tiebreakers and all of those things. All right, Chris
Sim's going to join us coming up lasking who had
the worst loss over the weekend. Your phone calls will
get to those best and worst to the weekend. We're
back after this.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
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Speaker 2 (16:14):
A couple other things stood out. As Derrick Henry is
running for his eighty seven yard touchdown, I'm thinking while
he's running, yeah, maybe the Cowboys could have used him.
If they had paid a little more in the off
season for him, he still had some get up and go. Now,
this is what I want to see. I don't care
what the Ravens do during the regular season. It's going
to come down to, just like it did last year.

(16:37):
Can you play Ravens football an entire game against the
Kansas City Chiefs because they got out of their game
plan last year. Just run the football, beat people up,
and you can beat anybody in football. They showed that
they roughed up a very good Bills team. Also, Jayden
Daniels is kind of figuring this quarterbacking position out. After

(16:58):
four games. Nobody he's been more impressive completion percentage in
the history of the NFL. Also, one other thing before
we get to Chris Simms. The Knicks Timberwolf's Hornets trade
involving Julius Randall Carl Anthony Town's Dante DiVincenzo still on
track but not completed yet. Expectations will be early this week.

(17:21):
Sources tell YESPN I'll discuss that a little bit more.
If I'm a Knicks fan, I go Carl Anthony Town's
greatest shooting big man in history.

Speaker 10 (17:34):
Yes, I do love that the Knicks as soon as
they get some momentum going and they're like, hey, I
think we have this figured out.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
You know what we need to do? Trade some people classic.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Let me bring in Chris Sims, Pro Football Talk Live,
co host Football Night in America, and of course former
NFL quarterback. Let me start with the Aaron Rodgers cadence
because you played the position. Aaron has had the same
cadence for twenty years now, Green nineteen, Green nineteen. Now
it does change maybe later in the game when he

(18:05):
wants you to jump off sides. How did the Jets
get to this situation where we're talking about the cadence
at the line of scrimmage as being an issue.

Speaker 13 (18:16):
Well, yeah, I mean, listen, he's a perfectionist, right. I
think that that's part of the conversation altogether. And then
his cadence and how he uses it, whether it's to
quit count people and get people, you know, extra people
on the field and there's twelve guys on the defense
and they're making the substitution, or his hard counts have

(18:36):
been one of the great things that he does through
his time. So I you know, again, I don't know
what their issue was. The Cadence honestly, like, I've seen
a little bit of this and maybe I'll miss it
a little more to the story that I see, But
either way, he's got problems with he doesn't feel certain
people are on the same page as him on the
offense and certain areas. And you see, that's where Allen

(18:57):
Lazard is the one getting fed the ball the most
right now, because he feels like, wait, I got a
connection with him. He knows what I'm thinking. He knows
exactly what I want in certain coverages and whatever else.
And that's that's where Rogers late in his career, he's
very picky with that type of stuff, especially with young
receivers and making sure they're on his page.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
But it's a terrible loss.

Speaker 13 (19:19):
So it's a terrible loss, right, Well, I maybe did
I miss something? Was there a quote or something about
the snapcount or whatever?

Speaker 14 (19:26):
I hadn't heard.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
About it, So, okay, tell me this is here's Robert
Salah after the game.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Okay, last I think you guys with one or two
in the NFL antelly is now this year.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
I think you're four And what needs to change.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
To clean it up?

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (19:40):
We got to figure it out whether or not we're
good enough to handle all the or ready to handle
all the kittens. Kittens had not been an issue all
Camp felt like our operation had been operating pretty good.
Obviously today it took a major step back.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 15 (19:59):
I got it.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Okay, I got you. Yeah.

Speaker 14 (20:01):
Well, you know, cadence is nuance too.

Speaker 13 (20:04):
It is, and there's a lot to it, and of
course there's code words that are involved in it. And
sometimes you use a code word like the famous omaha
you heard from Peyton Manning and all that that might
speed up the cadence and get you right into snapping
the ball and saying said, hut, yeah, they had issues yesterday,
but they physically, you know, it was a bad loss.
Like you said, there's no doubt about that. Their defense

(20:27):
is very good, certainly, but the offense, I think the
big thing is they don't throw the ball down the
field enough. And people know that Rogers likes to throw
the ball short and over the middle, and then they
want to run the ball. And you looked yesterday and
it looked like the Denver Broncos had everybody around.

Speaker 14 (20:42):
The line of scrimmage. And we'll also with that.

Speaker 13 (20:45):
When they don't motion right Rogers doesn't like motions and
they don't use a lot of formations. What else of
the Broncos did yesterday? They blitzed them because they said, wait, wait,
we kind of know where he's gonna go with the
ball if we blitz, so so what if he throws
a two yards will rally and make the tackle and
to be second and eight. But it's better than him
standing back there and making some great decision, a great

(21:06):
throw and Dyson up that way like he did the
Patriots on two thursdays ago. Yeah, that was a bad
loss for the Jets yesterday, the kind of game you
certainly thought they would win with Broncos offense not being
able to do anything.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Really, why can't the Ravens do this all the time offense?
Because they offense.

Speaker 13 (21:22):
They got to right, right, they got to choose to
do it. I heard what you said before I came on,
and I mean, you're right. This is something I've been
pounding the table with great offenses. Right, great teams you
gotta be great at something, and they're built to be
great at the run. They got a bunch of three
hundred and thirty pound offensive linemen. They got the greatest
running back in the history or the greatest running quarterback

(21:44):
in the history of football, a Hall of Fame running
back in Derrick Henry Force people's hands that way, and
then all the sexy, big explosive pass plays they're gonna come.
I'm telling you, they're gonna play the Bengals this week.
They're gonna watch the last two games on film and
they're going, oh my gosh, we can't stop the run
against anybody, let alone the ravens now and they're gonna

(22:04):
have to play some defenses where Lamar Jackson's can get
up there and go, wow, oh my gosh, they're playing
us like this. So I hope they just stay with
it because they're built to play like this and this
is when they play at their best.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Eagles situation is weird. Oh, it's just weird. I'm not
all in on Jalen Hurts. I'm certainly not all in
on Nick Sirianni. Yeah, you can't fire Jalen Hurts. No,
and I just they don't. I mean, Sakwan Barkley had
what nine touches. It's that it feels like they have everything,
but then you watch and sometimes you wonder if they

(22:38):
have anything why.

Speaker 13 (22:40):
Yeah, They're hard to figure out, right, It's a roller coaster.
I know they had some big injuries and people missing yesterday,
Aj Brown, Devantae Smith, No Lane Johnson, but damn they
still got a bunch of awesome other players on their
football team to just get beat down like that. Yeah,
it's a little bit of a roller coaster right now.
And I think it's a little bit of what you

(23:01):
brought up. Like, I'm not totally bought in on Jalen Hurtz's,
you know, the greatest quarterback in the world either. I
think he's real good, but like, is he a top five,
takeover the game kind of guy.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
No, I don't think so.

Speaker 13 (23:11):
And then Nick Siriani, right, he's an emotional guy, ups
and downs, And I feel like you see that a
little bit with the Eagles. That was disappointing after the
way they played last week against the Saints and were
physical and tough and did all that, and then their
defense just get absolutely demolished yesterday and the offense can't
do anything. It is a little concerning. I don't know

(23:32):
what to think of the Eagles. Their highs are real
highs or lows are real lows. We'll see if they
can meet in the middle somewhere.

Speaker 2 (23:37):
He's Chris Sim's Pro Football Talk Live co host with
Mike Florio on Peacock. You all in on Sam Donald?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
Yes, I am. I am all in, all in?

Speaker 14 (23:48):
I am.

Speaker 13 (23:49):
You know, I've been one that has said for a while,
Sam Donald's good. He's got skills. You can win with
Sam Donald. He just needs to have a little bit
of help around him. And as I always say, one
of my things, I always you know, when you're around
crap all the time, like he was with the Jets
and Carolina, you're gonna start to smell like crap too.
I'm sorry, And that's what happened to him a little bit.
But he's at a spot right now that is perfect

(24:11):
for him. O'Connell is a mastermind. In the past game,
I'd never seen a coach that can get more twenty
and twenty five yard completions open for a quarterback. Minnesota.
I'm not saying they're the best team in the NFC,
but like, we have to stop this. Oh, this is
just a good story. Like they are playing the best
football in the NFC. They are for real. They're not
gonna go anywhere. So that's what we got to get

(24:34):
used to and man, Sam Donald's been just lights out
so far.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay, so you got the Vikings in the playoffs.

Speaker 13 (24:40):
I yes, I would be shocked if they didn't make
the playoffs off of what I've seen for four weeks
and those coaches, and they got enough talent on their
football team I think to come through now too. And
Sam Donald has more talent than Kirk Cousins, and there's
more potential with him at quarterback than there was with
Kirk Cousins. Let alone. They can run the football this year,
and that changes them a little bit too.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Right, Jayden Daniels is making it look a lot easier
than it is. How is this possible?

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Right? I mean, I'm shocked.

Speaker 13 (25:10):
I knew he was gonna be good, this good, this fast,
right off the bat, right on the heels of what
we saw last year from CJ.

Speaker 14 (25:16):
Strod.

Speaker 13 (25:17):
But you go that only happens, you know, every now
and then with a rookie quarterback.

Speaker 14 (25:21):
I think the first thing.

Speaker 13 (25:22):
Is he's incredibly talented, He's got incredible poise. He's one
of those guys like a Joe Burrow where just like
the look never changes on his face. So whether it's
good or bad, there's pressure or whatever. He just seems
totally in control. The other aspect that I think needs
to be talked about, he's running the same offense he
ran in college. I think that's a great benefit. Cliff
Kingsbury has reinvented himself a little bit and added some

(25:45):
new wrinkles to his offense. And then he's got some
good receivers. But man, he is consistent, he's accurate, he's
poised in the pocket. We know we can run, and
I think Washington is a little better upfront than I
thought they were gonna be. They can protect and can
run the ball a little bit. They're one of the
pleasant surprises of the league so far.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, my two surprises this year we're going to be
Atlanta and Washington.

Speaker 8 (26:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I don't know if Atlanta's surprised, but I still think
they have the potential there.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
I also thought the Jags were going to win their division.
How much longer do you stay with Doug Peterson.

Speaker 14 (26:23):
I don't think you give up on Doug Peters.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
Go back to last year, Chris. They've lost nine in
a row.

Speaker 13 (26:29):
It's an ugly look for Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence
there's no doubt. Now two years ago, right, they started
out two and six and they ended up getting in
the divisional playoff game and had the Chiefs on the
ropes a little bit. So I think from that aspect,
you don't give up on Doug Peterson yet, No, but
it is concerning and they just can't seem to make

(26:49):
the big plays to get them over the hump and
win a football game. I mean, they're about to go
up twenty four to seven against the Dolphins. They fumble
on the way in right, yesterday, Trevor Lawrence had some
throws that would have put Oh man, they're gonna be
in a The Texas are gonna be in a tough spot.
You know, they get down inside the goal line one
time and come away with no points late in the

(27:11):
football game where they could have gone up by ten points.

Speaker 14 (27:13):
So, you know, the offense, it's just so much work.

Speaker 13 (27:17):
And Trevor Lawrence is being paid like he's a superstar
to take over a game and he's not doing that. Right,
You saw the guy that was doing that the other
day and c J. Stroud he does it, and that's
what kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth, right,
now is Trevor Lawrence is not taking that next step
to be the guy that can carry the organization.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
Chiefs lose Rare she Rice maybe for the season now,
Isaiah Pachecko out with a broken leg. I mean, these
are really really impactful players. I think if I Pachecko
is sort of their identity runs tough, you know, whatever
you need. And then Rashie Rice has been the go
to guy for Mahomes. This could be real. I mean,

(27:58):
I know they're undefeated. Yeah, I think you start to
have these injuries, they pile up. Maybe you're not getting
as much out of Travis Kelce, more pressure on the defense.
Mahomes has got to find another playmaker here. So what
do you make of the Chiefs moving forward?

Speaker 13 (28:13):
Yeah, I mean, one, it's one of the lead or
you know, unimpressive four to zero starts, you can imagine, right,
I think you would agree with that. I mean, and
the other aspect of it is I think I've been
saying this to Florio on my podcast a little bit too,
like we got to adjust our way we think of
the Chiefs. The Chiefs are clearly a defensive football team.

(28:35):
They're in the second part of a dynasty here, and
they are a defensive football team. They are literally like,
let's run the ball, let's chew up the clock. Mahomes
will make a few plays to make us dangerous, but
let's play through the defense. And that's what they've done.
The defense won the game yesterday. The defense won the
game against the Bengals. The defense won the game against
the Ravens. They've been phenomenal. The defense won the game

(28:56):
against the Falcons. So I worry about the Chiefs offense
in gen. I guess the reason you don't go, like,
you know, four alarm fire is because we saw the
offense not be that damn good last year and there
they were hoisted hosted in the trophy at the end
of the year. But it is a little concerning. Rashi
Rice is clearly the number one guy. At least they
got Kelsey going a little bit, hopefully that can continue.

(29:16):
And Xavier Worthy is so far just a trick guy.
Can they make him more consistent in the offense. But
I think now with this and I expect for she
Rice to be out, that they're going to be certainly
looking at the market for trade and as far as
a receiver when it comes close to the Deadline.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Good to talk to you as always, Chris, thanks for
joining us.

Speaker 14 (29:35):
Thanks Buddy, say hi to all the guys.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Appreciate you.

Speaker 14 (29:37):
You the man.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Chris Simms Pro Football Talk Live, co host the show
that Precedes Hours with Mike Florio on Peacock, contributor to
Football Night in America. Buddha in San Francisco leads us
off this morning. Best and worst of the weekend, Buddha,
what a DP.

Speaker 15 (29:54):
Let's ride Fritzy, Let's do.

Speaker 8 (29:58):
Dan?

Speaker 15 (29:59):
What a wild in the NFL? You got Sam, you
have the Sam Darnold revenge Tour, riding strong. You got
Kirk d Cousins somehow pulls off the win against New Orleans.
Aaron Rodgers loses to a rookie Derrick Henry just keeps
on running, and rookie Jadon Daniel dazzles in the desert.
Let's go Man. Best of the weekend, dv ME and

(30:20):
Marvin's Niners. We needed a slumbuster, Dan. Thank you to
the Patriots for come out, coming out West super quick
Satura the day DP. Obviously, since I bring this up,
Brock Purdy has the highest QBR rating in their first
twenty five NFL starts since the NFL merger. Who's number
two and three.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
So the second and third highest QBR for the first
twenty five games of the career.

Speaker 15 (30:50):
Yeah, the first one, the next one's pretty easy, the
third ones. You know, it's kind of whatever.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
I'll say, Dan Marino.

Speaker 15 (30:57):
Number two is Patrick Mahomes. Number three is Kurt Warren.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Oh and okay, yeah, and.

Speaker 15 (31:03):
Worst of the worst of the worst of the weekend.
And Deshaun Watson, I mean he needs help DP like
someone's got to step in and help him. I mean
he's looking at Baker Mayfield balling out in Tampa and
then Joe Flacco going elite on the Steelers this whole week.
I mean it's like the situation.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Is not good. Thank you, Budha.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, I'm just watching a shell of a quarterback with
Deshaun Watson, and I can't remember a good game by him.
It just he just is there, but he's not there
because they have enough talent and we saw that, we
saw that with Joe Flacco. Stefanski did a wonderful job

(31:48):
last year. But this year, I know you don't have
Nick Chubb, but you can't keep using that excuse. Everybody
loses players, you know, it's attrition in the NFL. But
I just watch and it just seems like he's going
through the motions. You're not fiery, and maybe he's never
been that way, but there's part of me that just

(32:09):
wants to say, be prideful, like be a leader, and
maybe he can't be. But I mean, you're getting paid,
but why don't you act like you're not getting paid?
I mean you lose to Gardner Minshew and the Raiders.

Speaker 3 (32:29):
I mean, it just.

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Gonna be a long season.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Now.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
They might have one of those snaps where they go, hey,
we're gonna go five and one over a six game stretch,
but it just feels like, can you count on him?
And I don't think he can. All Right, we'll take
a break. Play the Day up next. We'll get to
your phone calls as well.

Speaker 1 (32:50):
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan
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Speaker 15 (33:06):
Place is the play of the day.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Check this out?

Speaker 13 (33:11):
Snap going simil Row looking deep down field looking for
Williams comes.

Speaker 3 (33:16):
Back, makes the.

Speaker 13 (33:17):
Tech try to splint defenders make some bang into each other,
stays on his feet, break the tackle.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
Scares scars, scars.

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Brian Williams one playing seventy five yards, four plus two
equals six.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
He Alabama free game plane.

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Of course, the quarterbacks number of the wide receiver's number.
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Speaker 3 (34:39):
I mentioned to me.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Travis Hunter of Colorado is the best player in college football.
He has two games this season with both a receiving
touchdown and an interception, the last player to do this
twice in his season. Oh, I'm gonna let you try
to guess this. This was done in seven, not at
a a football hotbed. And he is currently up for

(35:08):
the Hall of Fame, on the ballot for the Hall
of Fame, and he guesses, O. Seven not a football powerhouse,
more of a basketball powerhouse.

Speaker 3 (35:26):
Paul, No, it can't be Julius Peppers, is it? No Ah?

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Anybody Bueller, Bueler a keeb to leave that Kansas a keeb?
I know, Bronco. Let's try no flies on nake you Todd,
Thank you Todd. A couple more phone calls. Gus in La, Hi, Gus,
what's on your mind?

Speaker 8 (35:54):
Good morning, mister Patrick. Hope you moon boys. Had a
great weekend, Beth and work and there is an annoying
one of the weekends that's of the weekend. Just a
great weekend of football, my usc Trojan. Seems like the
only way we're gonna get wins this year is if
we're losing bad at the half. Great come from behind
wind to be Wisconsin. Worse of the weekend. Worse of

(36:15):
the weekend, My Pittford Steelers, too much of a hole
to get out of in the first half. Let the
quarterback controversy begin the week of all the weeks to
have this. The Dallas Cowboys come into town on a
Sunday night. Oh my god, what do you do? What
can the Steelers do to keep me from you know,
going insane on a Sunday night, to keep shaving from

(36:38):
calling in happy? And then the annoying one of the
weekends you just briefly touched about a little bit ago.
I'm watching this incredible Alabama Georgia game. What a great
game of classic of all time. And every five seconds, Hey,
that kid's seventeen. You know he should be doing this
in high school right now. You know, he's seventeen. He's seventeen.

(37:00):
I'm like, we get it. We get it. The kids seventeen,
for God's sakes, we get it. You boys, have a
great week.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Thank you, guys, Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
The fact that he's seventeen isn't as interesting to me.
What's interesting is he skipped his senior year, so he's
the player of the year in the state, his sophomore
and junior year, and then he reclassifies and then now
all of a sudden, he gets a scholarship off for
at Alabama, so seventeen. But normally you get the gap year,

(37:32):
you know, after you graduate from high school. Basketball guys
do this all the time, where they're going to go
to another school for one year and then they'll go
there'll be twenty three when they go in. When they graduate,
they're like twenty four years of age. Yeah, seedon.

Speaker 10 (37:46):
I think the other thing that we're underplaying here is
that not only can he handle the game physically, jumping
from you know, basically his junior year into like semi
professional football, but he's also able to handle the academic
riggers of going for college that young, jumping right from
his junior year to jumping right into college classroom, which
is much different than high school. So that's that's pretty

(38:08):
special too.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
I feel like we're.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
Under Wait, you're being serious about the academic part of this.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
That doesn't anybody think it's.

Speaker 10 (38:15):
Crazy that the kids like I don't worry about like
high school that stuff you're supposed to learn, Like you
just jump into that.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Oh no, I mean I don't think he's pre mad,
but I don't know. That was a great straight delivery there.

Speaker 3 (38:26):
I was like, how well are you standing with able
to handle the academic riggers of all?

Speaker 2 (38:30):
He turned around to go, wait, are you joking?

Speaker 15 (38:34):
He's not.

Speaker 12 (38:34):
Just remember Dan, Alabama let me in when I applied
out of high school?

Speaker 2 (38:39):
Should summerize the bet the academic riggers, Like anybody.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Gonna jump in and find this funny? Or am I
just gonna die on the vine here as usual?

Speaker 12 (38:50):
It's like like the straight face that was at.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
No it was on, Yeah, we got it owl in
Atlanta High Alm. What's on your mind today?

Speaker 5 (38:58):
Good morning Dan, y'all Marvin? You had to pick that
really as the play of the day, Like, come on,
it's such a roller coach every weekend Thursday night and
the Friday morning hurricane passes over only lose power for
four seconds. That's great. Friday, the Braves win off of
Marcell Ozuna stealing third base and a five time goal

(39:21):
glove catcher being so surprised to see Marcel Ozuna running
for third that he throws the ball away. Then Saturday morning,
Everton gets their first win of the season. I'm on
it I'm flying flying. Then baseball starts and I'm flipping
back and forth between the Alabama Georgia game and the

(39:43):
Braves versus the Royals, and you know, Travis Darnault hits
the walk off home run. Great slip over to the
football game, and this is when it all starts going downhill, Dan, First,
they battle the biggest comeback in top five matchup history

(40:04):
and UGA history to only take the lead for thirteen
seconds because their secondary can't tackle a high schooler killing me.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
You know, he's seventeen.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Killing me. Sunday comes around and I don't even feel
like the Falcons won. They didn't tour an offensive touchdown.
They got lucky. But you know what they did do, Dan,
They listened to me and they kicked the field goals.
But then the Braves can't get one more win to
make today not stressful. So now my Monday just to
stressle because I got to sit through a doubleheader against

(40:37):
the hated Nets.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Like hanging there, el hanging there. Al's got a lot
of things going on. One hour in the books on
this Monday, more phone calls, best and worst to the weekend,
Big Poppy, Well join us coming up, Chris Fowler was
on the call for George Alabama. He had a great game.

(40:58):
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