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July 18, 2025 47 mins

2 Pros and a Cup of Joe Jonas Knox, Brady Quinn and LaVar Arrington fill-in on The Dan Patrick Show, reacting to TJ Watt finally getting paid by the Steelers. Senior NFL reporter, Albert Breer gives insight into the NFLPA’s Executive Director, Lloyd Howell stepping down. Plus, ColdplayGate!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
Sports Radio.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
It is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for
Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday mornings
before Dan nine am Eastern time, e excuse me, six
am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific, whatever it's before this
show Monday through Friday, and we will be taking you
all the way up until noon Eastern time, nine o'clock Pacific.

(00:26):
Here on this Friday morning, I feel like we've gotten
through it. Yesterday was like the last not a whole
lot of sports really going on, all right, because now
baseball's back after the All Star break. You've got some
golf event on another ugly course over in Europe somewhere
the people are really fired up about other than that.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
But I feel like we've gotten through the real difficulty.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
So I'll take a shot super early, huh, super quick, six'
oh one into the.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Show he's gonna.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Try BUT i, think really What i'm most disappointed, about
AS i was going through the dow before the show
today AND i didn't see anything about a special guest
live Bet. Jesus now for The Dan Patrick show listeners
who don't know Who live Bet, jesus Says, jonas could
you explain who this?

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Is so years ago we were doing the show On
Fox Sports radio On sunday nights and got interrupted by
some lightning and thunder in the. Studio some music started
playing in a piece of. Paper what was the? Music
like a? Prayer Oh? Donna, Yeah and so the piece
of paper fell down onto the desk AND i just
read what was in the, paper and it was somebody

(01:34):
by the name Of live Bet jesus was.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
There it was, no it. Wasn't it just SAID lbj
AND i didn't Know lebron was a.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Gambler and THEN i came to find out That live
Bet jesus made a pick and like most of his,
picks it hit and won on the air and on
a live sporting. Event so you, know if you when
everyone talks about the popularity of in game wagering and
in game, betting just from a where it started right
here On Fox Sports radio with a a being we'll

(02:05):
call it Named live Bet.

Speaker 5 (02:07):
Jesus, now mind, YOU i should warn our listeners And,
LaVar i think you've actually Seen live Bet jesus and
action enough to know this guy's a flip and. Loser
if you want to fade him as much as you possibly,
can you want no, PART i mean no part if
any bet this loser lays Uh. Lee you can back
this up to what's his lifetime win? Percentage like two

(02:29):
percent something like.

Speaker 6 (02:30):
That that's that's very generous of, You, Brady i'd say
roughly about.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
High. Ones, boy there's a trusted.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
SOURCE i Gave lab Bet jesus some amount of money In,
vegas and you.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Know FIRST i gotta tell you how to work. IT
i gotta tell you, FIRST i gotta tell.

Speaker 4 (02:47):
You the experience of being in his presence at first was, overwhelming,
exciting maybe a little bit nerve, racking but you, know
we went With we went with.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
It Oh.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
NO i Gave la Bet jesus my money and well
nothing came.

Speaker 6 (03:06):
Back, okay that was you can't, win but the winnings
aren't going to be yielding you. Much that's that's for.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Sure. Okay what happened In vegas was there was a
fight During Super bowl, WEEK i Think thursday night And LeVar,
Listen LeVar got some advice about who to bet on
and because of a shoddy decision and a terrible.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Decision it was a got. Screwed it was got.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
Screwed but you can't go up to the sports book
In vegas and be, like, hey that was a terrible.
Decision CAN i get my money? Back they'll tell you
to go kick. Rocks so it didn't. Happen what would
Be prisco? Say he'd, say you're on the wrong side
of a good. Bet that's, it that's, it that's the go. To,
YEAH i was on the right side of. It it
just didn't work. Out you know it do the same

(03:53):
thing well over.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Again the reason WHY i bring that up is that
golf tournament that you're not a fan of The open
over there and poor Rush uh that they're. Playing you
would think that live Bed, jesus if he had any
kohonas anything on, him you, know you'd think that, maybe
just maybe he would want to visit the show for a,
segment maybe layout a live.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Bet BUT i don't. Know he's probably probably. Typical you.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Know my problem with The Open championship or The British.
Open i'm just gonna call it The British. Open the
courses are so, unattractive Like Augusta National beautiful ON tv
like THE, us But. Oakmont i've been To Oakmont Beautiful
like you go through all the major. Championship you go
to a golf. Course it could be golf and stuff

(04:40):
out here in Southern.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Come i've never been. There how would you? Know WATCHING?
Tv it's beautiful in its own? Way what's its own?
Way they got weeds a lot in the.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Background, no, no that's called. Heather wait what it's a
link STYLE i want to know where that name came.
From it's it's it's called. Heather, yeah it's it's a
link style. COURSE i won't call it supposed to look.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
That ain't not but some heather on the back of the.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Course why is it? Heather it's very white of. Them
you gotta, go you gotta go take a stroll through the. Lorainas.
YEAH i don't know where that one's.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Going BUT i, mean what does it, matter? HEATHER i,
mean it doesn't. Matter watch. It there's just.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Weeds you're in an open field with. Weeds oh they
decided to mow that. Part all, right let's tee off.
Everybody it's, like come, on, dude clean up your.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Grass why you? So why do you so down on the. Course,
JONAH i just don't like the way it. Looks that's.
It that's WHAT i feel about.

Speaker 5 (05:49):
It, no you know what he, said this is this
is due to his experience being over An. Ireland people
weren't his, Friend, Jonas why DID i? DID i don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
That, WELL i don't.

Speaker 3 (06:01):
KNOW i don't.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
Know they weren't as friendly towards, you weren't as, welcoming you.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Know it.

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Was jonas really played up the whole.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
Thing he would barely drink any of his, guinness which
was noticed by many locals, said, oh you don't want
to drink assimilate to our. Culture, okay you got to
drink guess and you drink.

Speaker 3 (06:18):
Coffee.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
Okay The Dan Patrick show guys were there as well.
Too we were all out. There and there's a thing
you do In dublin or In ireland where you've got
to drink down to the.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
Line you've got to.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Drink it's called splitting the g all, Right well they
can split this g.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
Uh all.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
RIGHT i almost got, there And i'm not going to
be judged BECAUSE i didn't accurately get to the. Line,
Okay LIKE i didn't see a lot of people accurately
get to splitting the Wow.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
LeVar i'm not gonna let him keep going because he's
not really ever talking about really what took?

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Place you know what people bought? US a? Guinness do
you have any? Guinness was into the? SHOW a, Yeah i'm,
sure but they were all left. Full just sitting. There
that's him just sitting. There that's the until Until lee
would come by and.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
Possible, Oh lee made it look Like yonas actually drank
any of the guinness that people bought for.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
HIM i Got, Lee how did that make you? Feel
split The, Oh i'm pretty good at. IT i get.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
It uh one every six. Times lease split my gas
three times In. Ireland and here's the thing that, Please
like any good, dog whatever you don't, finish they'll take
care of like.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
This that's why they invented the term doggy.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Bag my kids drink extra Stout guinness all. Day really all.
Day doesn't fill you. Up that's rost rosta bredren and
that's that's we. Drink, man drink.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
That, dude it's a extra.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
Stout really what not? Me that's that's that's that's my
weapon of. Choice in, fact outside of, surveys is like
Drinking i've been on This Corona light late light thing.
LATELY i don't know, why But i've been really Liking,
Corona like how you're A pacifico. GUY i Love, pacifico

(08:12):
but like it's been hurting. Me there's this one beer
coming out THAT i feel really good. About but we'll
hold on to that. One you, know let's Stick city
we we we we wet Ol Citrus. Weak but let
me tell, You, kadi how long we've been hearing about
we're going to get some beer.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
Bath you Should wolf.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Tickets no, way it's, COMING i promise you it's on the. Way,
ANYWAY i.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Think that's not. Coming IT'S. Tj watt's new deal. Extension it's.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
There it has, Dropped, yeah three, years one hundred and
twenty three million to take that, line hundred eight million.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Dollars why isn't T J watt? Guaranteed it puts T.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
J watt as the highest paid non quarterback IN nfl.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
History forty one million dollars a year he's going to.
Get so they tack on another three, years which is
what one million more or one hundred thousand.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
More THAN i think one one million more Than Miles Miles,
okay so which did you know what that? Means we
got who was next? Up you gotta believe this, name,
yes BECAUSE i don't.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
THINK i don't Think hendrickson is going to get that
type of. Track SO i don't, think, YEAH i don't
Think dallas has to wait. Anymore like Now Michael parsons
can get his deal, done thanks captain.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Obvious now the question who did? That who did?

Speaker 7 (09:42):
That?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
NOW i think the question now becomes is it like
forty one? Point you know? One forty? One a? Million?
More you think a?

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Million, Okay so do you think The, bengals in seeing
this deal looked at, Him we're, like that's? AWESOME i think,
yeah that's absolutely well there there, There LeVar, actually and
you backed him on.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
This Jonas givar made the case yesterday that he Thinks
Jerry jones wants to, say, hey hey, Boys i'm Paying
i'm paying the most defensive the most money for the
defensive playing the, league the non, Quarterback i'm paying him the.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Most that might you, guys that might be a little
out of, context, THOUGH i Mean i'm not saying he's
waiting to say. That, WELL i just don't think he
wants to have to be the one that has to
say he did it where he knows he has.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
To that's. All, well All i'm saying is The Cincinnati
bengals with exact. Opposite there you, go, yeah. Exactly can't
agree on To jonas's, point what was? That what was
that they just drove? By was THAT? Tj peole it
on That he's, like ha, ha way to.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Go we don't use the job. Lane we'll stay right
here in this. One like they are The Rob parker
of THE. Nfl Like Rob parker who brings his own
tea Bags Rob parker Super Bowl week and they're not
even like named tea, bags their their store brand signature

(11:23):
select From ralph's Or albertson's Or Pigly. Wiggly and it's
because he doesn't want to spend money on actual tea.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
Bags that's The Cincinnati. Bengals i'm a.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Woman they have no inter they have no interest in
matching that.

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Deal but all, seriousness all. Seriousness if You're, hendrickson what
are you going to? Do like that's got to be
the biggest question. Here what is he going to?

Speaker 8 (11:49):
Do?

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Retire why would you retire when you can make a
lot of?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
Money like, okay resign to the fact that you're not
going to get that money from The Cincinnati. Bengals they're
not going to trade. Them do you think they trade?
Them who does the? Trade who does the?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Trade, well they gave him a chance to go seek
a trade and nobody and nobody, moved nobody.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Budged, okay so you don't have the opportunity to go
seek a.

Speaker 4 (12:15):
TRADE i, mean is it messed up to say at
some point you got to, Say i'm not going to
get this type of money in the. Market i'll get
his Close he can get into the, thirties, right.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
He can get close to. It, yeah he can Get
the tough.

Speaker 5 (12:33):
Part about his position now is you would have thought
if something was going to, happen it would have happened.
Earlier this year where there's a bit more cap. Space
teams are spending a lot of. Money but you, know
again we kind of talk about like deadlines due.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Deals you always hear that.

Speaker 5 (12:49):
Phrase in this, Case, look he's under contract and it's
the last year of his. Deal he's scheduled to make
what fifteen point eight you, know as far as his
salary this, year which is grossly underpaid considering how productive
he's been in the past two.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
Years but.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
He's thirty, one and we keep talking about that age
thirty number and what that means for players as they move,
Forward greater injury, risk you, know lack of production tends
to kind of fall. Off so that's that kind of
that point in time where teams want, to you, know
not necessarily have to shell out a ton of. Money
SO i think as we get close to the, season
he'll get traded for and obviously if that team trades for,

(13:29):
him they know that like he's being traded to show
up and get paid.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
More than whatever The bengals are paying.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
HIM i think the tough thing for The bengals is
that if they were going to replace, him which they
have with their first round pick And Shamar, stewart they
should have done whatever trade deal was on the table
before the, draft because that's what you had the most.
Leverage now that you already have this, replacement it looks
kind of. Tough and then on top of, that teams

(13:55):
are looking at you, thinking, well you're kind of desperate
because not only have you not signed this guy to,
extension but your first's, rookie you, know draft, pick has
not even signed his.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Deal he hasn't been there at.

Speaker 5 (14:03):
All so it becomes a very difficult situation all the
way around For, hendrickson purely because of the size of
these deals that The bengals can't, pay and then the
fact of his age and factoring in other pieces of,
it and really The bengals and where they're at where
they don't have to move on from him. YET i,
mean and he's under, contract so they can find him

(14:25):
and they, can you, know do whatever they need to
do to try to entice.

Speaker 3 (14:28):
Him to come back and play under the contract that
he's currently playing.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
On in this in the same off, Season Max crosby
signed one for thirty five million a, year and now
we've just SEEN. Tj watts sign one for forty. One
it's going to be closer To max were literally in
the same off.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
Season it's two months, ago and honestly, SPEAKING i Think
cincinnati's going to try to get it for less than thirty.
FIVE i think it'll be in the, thirties but it's
going to be less than thirty. Five it's going to
be what Does hendrickson want to? Do BUT i think
that again back to the original. Point now the stage
is set Now Jerry jones can go. Ahead he knows

(15:04):
what he has to. Pay he can go TO, uh
go To micah's representation and, say here's the market, here
it's now.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Here it is, like let's get the deal.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
DONE i wouldn't be surprised If Michael parsons deal drops
today or like in the next couple of, days, today, Tomorrow.
MONDAY i wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (15:28):
Saying so that they were just. Waiting that's what you're.
SAYING i believe.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
SO i said it. YESTERDAY i KNOW i believe. SO
i do not think that they wanted to put your
city that he wasn't looking. Either smacking the face you,
ARE i almost called you a name on on live.
Radio why are you so stuck on that?

Speaker 3 (15:50):
Lone Like?

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Michael first of, All i'm talking About Jerry, jones Not Michael.
Parsons AND i stand ten toes down on the pat
toe That Michael parsons is not looking for a. Contract
he's the contract is coming to. Him And Jerry jones
was most certainly most likely waiting FOR.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Tj watt to get his deal.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
Done AND i don't think That Jerry jones would want
it to be out there that The Pittsburgh steelers did
a better deal WITH. Tj watt than he did With Michael,
parsons knowing the conversations and the. Players as we mentioned
that you have to make comparisons to as it applies

(16:37):
To Michael, PARSONS.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
I stand on that you Mentioned Jerry. Jones he actually
was asked what he wants out of The. Michaeh parsons.
Extension let's take a.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
LISTEN i won't make some glory. HILL i, mean you
guys are a. HOLE i don't go to break go
to break, bad. Y'all you know WHAT i don't. Either
i'm With, Jerry jerry.

Speaker 2 (16:58):
How to do TO i don't know what you wants
to keep talking About mike al waiting on a. Contract
you're sitting here talking About terry on.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Some glorial.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Acting like like like my my stepbrothers THAT i want
to kick out of the.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
House the slumber party is. OVER i don't want y'all here.
Anymore i'm taking my safe y'all need to go.

Speaker 3 (17:18):
Home.

Speaker 5 (17:18):
Man you, KNOW i think you're touching on something That
I've i've come to learn over the, years and this
is Where i'm like out of touch with it Because
i'm just a you, KNOW i grew up in a
middle class family in The. Midwest IS i know some
people who are like, wealthy and they will brag about
like bets they've lost or money they've, lost how much
it is that that they, Write but it is exactly

(17:40):
so it like puts them in a category of like oh,
yeah and it's like, okay and and this actually falls
in that. Category then if you're telling me that you
think he's going to kind of, brag if you, will
about Paying Micaeh parsons more than any other player in the.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
LEAGUE i don't know that he's going to brag about.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
IT i just know that he doesn't want to have
to be in a situation where somebody else did a
bigger deal for the same.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Pace we know this someone eventually.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
WILL i don't know who that player, is but we
always know that like it doesn't to be at the same,
time it doesn't need to be and weeks.

Speaker 3 (18:15):
APART i don't think a.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
PART i don't think it bothers him if he ends
up paying more than he could have two months, PRIOR
i don't think it bothers them. ALL i Think i've
always thought it's like a fashionably late tax like he's,
okay how cheap you?

Speaker 4 (18:28):
Are that's shocking to hear you because he's talking about.
Someone oh, yeah oh this is. Me if he is
talking about, himself would be much. Different, PLEASE i saw
what he can you imagine.

Speaker 5 (18:38):
If jonas missed the sale At Ross stress for, less
he would be so frustrated ABOUT i can still remember
WHEN i.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
MISSED i swear to, GOD i saw on my. LIFE
i swear To. God AND i remember my mom telling,
ME i think we're going to regret.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
That, oh because it was? There what was? It what
was the? Sale do you pass? Up it was a.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Jacket it was a jacket that it was like nine
dollars and her AND i we were looking Through ross
AND i STILL i remember this. Moment she's, like, well
let's just you, know we'll come. BACK i was, like,
okay and then we went back like a week.

Speaker 3 (19:11):
Later was not. There oh it's. Gone it's gone that,
day it's, gone like minutes OR i love Watching LeVar
look at you as you tell us he's so.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Full i'm not Even i'm not even making that story
out on. EVERYTHING i remember her telling me, Specifically, yeah,
listen you know sometimes when you want, something maybe you
just have to jump right then and. THERE i was, like, oh,
okay that's a good. Point let lesson. Learn BUT i
still remember That ross stressed for less thousand. Oaks still
there by the.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Way them defects on, them them, Clothing like if you
could find one.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
That just had, that just that slight, defect you were.
Good you were. Good it's, like, oh it's a. Starter
well it's The Pittsburgh, penguins.

Speaker 7 (19:58):
Right.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
There's no g there's no im not this. One that's
a different.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Sport that's like those the liquor store glasses you, get
they're Not, oakley's They're.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Okie's. No, HELL i swear to, god why are you
chiming on?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
On? This wouldn't leave you the resident expert store. Brands
i'm making that. Up like you get fake glasses at
a liquor. Store oh, YEAH i get them all the.
Time you get the the ray, band fake o the
fake ray. Band, yeah that's the.

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PIZZA i got that? Part is that? Leftovers did you
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Speaker 3 (22:33):
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Speaker 7 (22:33):
On, YEAH i figured you guys just wanted me to
follow up on The coldplay.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Situation, absolutely, Yeah, actually do you have any thoughts on?

Speaker 3 (22:41):
THAT i, mean was it the reaction that got them? Caught?

Speaker 7 (22:45):
Oh, Yeah, NO i MEAN i think there's no question
they had just stood. There why would anybody post? That?
Right you know WHAT i? Mean, LIKE i guess there's
an outside chance to get caught that way in that
like maybe one of the wife's friends is in the
crowd or, something, Right, LIKE i guess that's, Possible but
there's no, way like anybody would think to post that

(23:06):
video if they just stood, there or even if they
just like waved the camera instead and like let go
of each. Other so cover ups working.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
In the, crime, RIGHT Ab you've been To Jillette stadium
many times? Before?

Speaker 2 (23:21):
Correct, yeah all, Right SO i blame the lighting that
that guy thought it was his, Wife like is that
are you going with?

Speaker 7 (23:27):
That or he they need some? Stadium?

Speaker 2 (23:29):
YEAH i THINK i THINK i got to figure that
thing out and get that sorted.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Through.

Speaker 7 (23:33):
Yeah, YEAH i, MEAN i, like you couldn't get the
best of.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
ANYBODY i guess you did use cover up, though and
we know that that's why you're coming onto the show HIM.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
U i am curious what sort of house cleaning are
we going to get with this team in THE nfl
called THE, nflpa what sort of a how's this going
to look?

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Now based based on how.

Speaker 7 (23:54):
Resigning, well it doesn't look great for. Sure and you,
KNOW i think a huge part of this now is
going to come down to the players getting people and
that they can. Trust and you, know after everything that's
happened over the last you, know three, weeks the revelation
things that have happened over the last year or, so
over the last three, WEEKS i think be really easy

(24:15):
for any player to be distrustful of the way the union's,
working AND i, think you, know you go back and
you look like a couple of, things of, course like
the fact that you, know like the Nflp ANDRE. D
smith like viewed exposing collusion is sort of the holy.
Grail and you, know even though they didn't win that,
case you, know the chance to expose you, know real

(24:37):
evidence of. Collusion and then you, know helping THE nfl
cover it up never made any, sense you. Know and
then and then you, Know Lloyd howell's involvement in the
private equity firm that was one of the small circle
of firms that were approved to buy INTO nfl, teams you,
know put them extensively in business with THE. Nfl you.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Know So.

Speaker 7 (24:59):
I'm look, LIKE i know a lot of people don't
care about conflict of interest and that sort of, thing
but you, know the players have to walk a very
very fine line to get what they. Want IT'S i
think that THE nflpa has challenges that the other sports
unions don't. HAVE i think it's more difficult for THE
nflpa to get what they want because of the number
of people they are, serving because of you, know because

(25:23):
the number of players that are a non guaranteed. Contract
because of the lack of time that the bulk of
the league spends playing professional, football there are a ton
of challenges that go into. It so they've got a
big old mess in their hands, Now and you, KNOW
i would it wouldn't surprise me to see somebody Like Don,
davis next player in the in the leadership role for

(25:45):
now and then they don't figure out what they're doing going.

Speaker 5 (25:48):
Forward one thing THAT i always think of in these circumstances,
IS i, mean what, so AND i said this earlier
when we were talking about the subject like a week,
ago THE pa has always assumed that the ownership the
owners were.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Colluding.

Speaker 5 (26:06):
Yep and then you're basically through all of this have
proven that that's the.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
Case. Yep what's the what's the?

Speaker 5 (26:12):
RECOURSE i, mean at the end of the, day there's
thirty one majority, owners There's Green, bay which is a
unique ownership, group and the players are the, players and so,
like what could they do exposing that that then forces
THE nfl to change and not collude moving?

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Forward, WELL i, Mean, brady it puts the league's anti
trust exemption at you, know in, peril which is you, know.
REALLY i, mean it's that's the ext extential thing for THE.
Nfl you. Know, yeah this is sort of the difference between,
like you, know the sports over here and say soccer In.
Europe you know that they don't deal with this because

(26:50):
they aren't operating. Monopolies there are different leagues over. There
the player doesn't like the working conditions in one, league
whether that's, money you, know the, environment whatever it, is
like being a pull up stakes and negotiate to to
go play in another. League you, know that's not the
way it works In North american. Sports and so you,
know to be an operating, monopoly for the government to

(27:12):
allow you to be the operating, monopoly you have to
you have to you, know you have to to to you,
know achieve certain conditions within your working. Environment and one
of them is that you, know the teams aren't working
together to suppress you, know working, conditions and so you,
KNOW i it's it's something that THE NFL, pa you, know,

(27:35):
obviously you, know could could look at and, say you,
know we think that THE nfl is anti trust exemption
should be you, know it should be should be looked,
at and you know, what that would give them leverage to.
DO i don't, know you, know and and and and
there's some stuff here from a legal, perspective is probably
a little bit over my, head you, know but you,

(27:57):
know LIKE i, mean if you want to go back
to the history of, it and you want to, go you,
know to the, sixties Like Paul Peter, roselle you, know
getting the anti trust exemption in the first place is
sort of what sets the stage for THE nfl to
become the big television product has become and allowed them
to do business. Away they've done it for you know
now you know sixty years over sixty, years so you,

(28:19):
know the idea that that could, be that that could
be in any sort of trouble would give THE, nflpa you,
know a tremendous amount of leverage over THE nfl.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Ab what what are the?

Speaker 4 (28:35):
Chances Like i'm Just i'm thinking of this through what
my lens would be IF i heard, this IF i
was a part of this AND i was. Playing i'm
asking my legal, team my, representation DO i have a
legal case against the? Union BECAUSE i feel like if
you expose like you, had like you, Said Holy grail

(28:57):
is exposing that there was, Collusion you've exposed that they
do not want to give more guarantee money that directly
impacts me, potentially you, know, Personally, dude is there a
case here for? PLAYERS i would assume certain players are
looking at this, like if that's what THE pa is,
doing and that's what they're agreeing, Upon i've been let

(29:18):
down and that has potentially costed me x amount of
potential dollars THAT i can make in the.

Speaker 7 (29:24):
Future, yeah it's a fair. Argument you, KNOW i don't
know what they're, again, LIKE i don't know what the
legal recourse would be, there whether it be a class,
action hastuit or something like. That it's obviously it's obviously
a horrible, look you. Know AND i think you, know
one of the things that's come, up you, know and
this is the obvious question is, like, well why why

(29:46):
would THE NFL pa cooperate? Here And i've heard a
couple of different things on. That there's the NFL's ability
to pursue legal fees because they didn't win the, case
so you, know if they could come AFTER i think
it was twelve million dollars in legal, fees you, know
you know then and and and and THE NFL p

(30:08):
can't afford to pay that could they go to THE
nfl P a and, say, well you, know if, you if,
you if, you if, you, uh if you waive those legal,
fees if you wave your right to pursue those legal,
fees then then then then we'll keep it quiet. Too
that could be. One there was the individual case WHICH. J. C,
treader which in a pobulatory reported, on in which you

(30:31):
know it stems back to some of the things That
trader was found responsible, for and and and and talking
about running backs and in players of other positions, too
holding in and taking injuries to to try to gain contract.
Leverage you know, that you, know keeping that one quiet
and exchange with keeping the other one quiet could be
part of the. Too but in each of these, cases you,

(30:54):
know AS i lay those, out like that's not helping
the individual. Players so if you're making a deal either
to to to benefit one person or to benefit the
union itself rather than the twenty five hundred, players well
then that's a. Problem so, again Like, LeVar i'm not
sure exactly what the recourse would, be whether it be
a class action loster or, something but you would think

(31:17):
that a lot of players would be upset about it
and might let's take.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
Action get him on ex At Albert, Brier SENIOR nfl,
Reporter lead content strategist at THE. Mmqb you also see
him On, AMAZON nfl On primes. Coverage Albert brier joining
us here on The Dan Patrick. Show Two pros and
A cup Of joe filling in For dan and the.
Guys AB.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Tj watt gets the deal. Done we know the.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
Numbers it's three years's one hundred and twenty three million.
Annually he's a million more Than Miles. Garrett all, right
so now we know that you've GOT Michaeh, Parsons Trey,
hendrickson Potentially Aiden. Hutchinson best guess in, order how do
these get?

Speaker 7 (31:55):
Done mike Get? Trey aiden maybe. Not just doesn't have.
To he doesn't have to rush into. Anything and he's
coming back off the broken, leg you, know so sometimes
for player, psychologically that could you, know make him like
have the mindset LIKE i JUST i just want to get,
Mine so you, know maybe that'd be a little bit

(32:17):
of a motivator for. Him you, Know BUT i would
think that because you, Know aiden's under contract for another two,
YEARS i, mean he is coming back off the, injury
it might behoove him to wait to see what happens
With micah And. Trey my guess would Be micah goes,
First trey goes, second And aiden goes. Third to, me

(32:39):
like the least predictable one Is. TREY i Think micah
And aiden definitely get. Done trey because this is stretched
over three off, seasons because he's older than the other,
two because The bengals have the history that they, have
because The bengals actually handled as far as the way
that the contracts were set, up T higgins And Jamar
chase in totally different. Ways more chases deal to structure

(33:02):
a little bit like more Like Joe, burrows Where higgins
was a little bit more like The bengals have always done,
deals you, know and the fact that this guy's not
going to be willing to take A i'm not going
to be as willing to take a hometown. Discount because
this has lasted over three. OFFSEASONS i think it's enormously,
complicated and SO i WOULD i would guess, like maybe
there's a push to Get Aiden hutchinson done here at

(33:23):
the start of. Camp if that doesn't, work which maybe it,
won't then then you do it right before the, season
whereas you, know obviously With mike And, trey there's a
little bit more urgency to get something.

Speaker 3 (33:34):
Done, ALBERT i gonna give you, credit, man you called.
It you said exactly how the second round was going
to play.

Speaker 5 (33:40):
Out you, said there'll be some guys at the top
end that will get those guaranteed. Deals there'll be guys
After Alfred, collins other players who will kind of cross
over and not get the fulling guaranteed. Deals h tell
me where you expected to be the biggest? Issue is
it forty With Taylor? Shuck is that who you said
the other?

Speaker 7 (33:57):
Day, yeah, YEAH i think that that's that's a big.
One you. KNOW i think you, know because he's a,
quarterback and quarterbacks is generally handled a little, differently and
so you, know if if you're if You're Luther burton
at thirty nine Or Travian henderson at thirty eight Or
Jonas ivaina at thirty, seven LIKE i think part of you,
know the equation in your head, is, well there's a

(34:19):
quarterback right behind, me and if he's able because of
the position that he, plays to get one hundred percent
of his deeal fully.

Speaker 10 (34:25):
Guaranteed, well an eye out of weight and and and
see what that happens BEFORE i do, anything you, Know
so you, know obviously the first three guys now are,
signed and the first three guys.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
The uh in the.

Speaker 7 (34:40):
BACKGROUND i, KNOW i, KNOW i know The judkins thing
is complicated by the legal. Case SO i mean to,
me it's you, know It's shuck and then and And
shuck And. Judkins and Because judkins is held, UP i
THINK i Think shuck kind of was a thirty, seven
thirty eight and thirty.

Speaker 4 (34:59):
Nine maybe CAN i revisit The Michaeh parsons and and
all these, contracts because, UH i clearly hit a glitch
with WITH q. YESTERDAY uh and talking about him waiting
for or versus it coming to.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Him he's not, waiting he's looking for. It he definitely not.
Looking he's not he's NOT i don't know what he's.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
Doing, yeah, yeah well we we definitely had a good
time with the whole idea of waiting versus expecting and you,
know whatever it may. Be But i'm, curious is it
is it reasonable to think That micah's deal gets done
pretty soon now THAT tj wats is done based upon

(35:43):
what that looks like If Jerry jones does the deal
With micah and then The steelers come out and do
a bigger deal with T. J.

Speaker 7 (35:52):
Watt it should simplify. It And i'm with you on. That,
like but we've seen the countbol over the last few
years and what they went through With Ceedee lamb And
Dak prescott going to the wire last, year And Zach
martin had HELD i believe a couple of years ago
that went deep Into. August if you want to go further,

(36:13):
back there was a there was one With Eeke, elliott you.
Know SO i The, cowboys for one reason or, another
have let these things drag out a little. Bit BUT i,
MEAN i think the landscape is set, now you. KNOW i,
MEAN I i think it's pretty clear based on WHAT.
Tj watt got and What Miles garrett got where you're
going to have to go to get something done with.

(36:35):
Him and you, know like to his, credit Like Michael,
parsons you, know willingness to wait on this and willingness
to to to see how a couple of these others
play out only helped his cause That the hard thing
to wrap your head around is kind of how The
cowboys have operated here BECAUSE i do, think you, know

(36:56):
they they paid a price for waiting ON. Dak they
do think they came at a price for waiting ON,
Cd AND i think there's a lesson to be learned.
Here one of The, eagles LIKE i, think have really
kind of benefited from and doing their deals. Early you,
know The, cowboys like waiting on almost every case has
cost them, money and SO I i really LIKE i know,
that you, know like that That michael wasn't gonna you,

(37:18):
Know Mike michael wasn't gonna do anything that wasn't going
to be the top of the. Market at the same,
time you, know the top of the market has moved
quite a bit over over the period of time The
cowboys have waited to do, This.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
Albert BEFORE i let you go with a training camp
right around the. Corner if you had to rank top
three storylines you're most sick of talking about this?

Speaker 3 (37:41):
Offseason what would they?

Speaker 7 (37:42):
Be put me on the? Spot who what AM i
sick of talking? About? Well The micah thing is up
there BECAUSE i JUST.

Speaker 10 (37:53):
I just honestly for, it And i'm not.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
This it gets, You, LeVar but like it's just like
it feels like we're replaying where we were With Ceedee
lamb And Dak prescott last.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
Summer, well that's not fair to take that out On.

Speaker 7 (38:14):
I'm JUST i just like The cowboys keep putting themselves
in these situations and it's not easy to, explain you
know WHAT i? Mean like so, so so that'd be.
ONE i don't, KNOW A rogers has to Be Aaron.
RODGERS i would Have Aaron rodgers would have been the
top of the list until like a month. Ago but

(38:35):
NOW i think it becomes more interesting because now it's
like what it's going to look like on the, field
AND i don't think like there's any of that weird
back and forth. ANYMORE i don't. Know i'm ready to,
Roll Like i'm ready to just kind of get this
started and have some things that actually matter start to,
happen you know WHAT i, Mean BECAUSE i you, KNOW
i always get these questions this time of. Year it's

(38:55):
like who's your surprise? Team and going, on people have
like people asking Like, june and it's like by then
everything has been covered six ways From, sunday so nothing's
a surprised. Anymore it's LIKE i could say The raiders
and looks, like, oh that's not really a Surprising, okay
well who is? Then you? Know, so so, anyway it's

(39:16):
it'll be good to have.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Ask someone would say The raiders aren't a surprise. Team maybe,
NO i, MEAN.

Speaker 7 (39:21):
I, KNOW i Know i'm saying they would, be BUT
i like it's an example of how everything's. Covered, yeah
everybody's already covered this.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Stuff, well well, listen he's ready for training. Camp he's
tired of THE, bs and you can get him on x.
At Albert, Breer SENIOR nfl, reporter lead content strategist at THE,
mmqb Also, AMAZON nfl On Prime INSIDER. Ab appreciate, it,
man thanks for doing. It another day here with us this,
week and we'll talk to you again Next.

Speaker 3 (39:47):
Thursday all, Right thanks.

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Speaker 1 (40:20):
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Speaker 2 (40:32):
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Speaker 3 (40:36):
Viva, LaVita just a good song gets you in the.
MOOD i don't know if you caught that on Cold.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
Play, well if you did miss, that you might have
also missed That coldplay had a concert this week over
In Gillette.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
Stadium what? Happened, well of something went?

Speaker 6 (40:50):
Viral Kiss kim panned over to ASTRONOMER Ceo Andy. Byron
he's a big TIME ceo for this astronomer. Company happened
to be linked up with HIS hr head Of Chief
chief and head OF, Hr Christen. Cabot problem is they're
both married to other. People Christen mary covered her face
and he ducked out a Frame Chris, martin who was

(41:12):
watching The Chris, martin of, course the head Of, coldplay
was watching and, say, hey look at these cute couple. That,
oh they're either very shy or they're having an. Affair turns, out,
yes they were having an. Affair moment has gone viral
now and Uh Andy byron's wife has taken herself off
of social, media removed her name off of other.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Sites you, Think, yeah you.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Think And Christian cabot has but happens to be. Divorced
double checking. That uh, so, yeah there you, go viral.
Moment she's not.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Married, yeah, no she. Wasn't she was recently divorced. Recently
that makes it a little, better like maybe a. LITTLE i,
mean really it.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
May be a little. BETTER i mean it's. Worse here's
the worst thing to.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Marry now people are actually identifying people.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
Who are around them because they obviously knew of.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
This, yeah so now they're being drug into this, Too oh,
darn which makes it even more.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Interesting, YEAH i mean you. Knew is anybody gonna call
Out coldplay for being? Nosy oh that is? Hilarious he
called it right on Stag, yeah mind your.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
Business he did apologizeerr, afterwards SAYING i think we might
have done something bad.

Speaker 3 (42:17):
There yeah you.

Speaker 8 (42:19):
THINK i think more people on these cameras need to
take a. LESSON i saw A Taylor swift fan who
like threw a towel over her head while being, interviewed
because like she didn't want to shoot her face ON
tv because she was skipping. Work she had called in
sick to work to go to This Taylor swift. CONCERT
i think more people's got to do.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
That so that's actually the question that comes to mind
with all this surprisingly is should they have reacted more
cool and calm in the moment.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Because their reaction was what drew all the. Attention did
draft ed?

Speaker 10 (42:48):
Did?

Speaker 3 (42:48):
Yeah BUT i think the damage was done to. Me
that's the only thing that guy did, wrong just the
way he. Acted did you see her?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Face his face was kind of, like oh f her
face was like.

Speaker 3 (43:03):
Life. IS i think the guy apologized on social media
and in his apology he used cold play.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Lyrics it that was a deep. Fake it was, vague,
okay because that was being. REPORTED i wish that was.
True he's exonerated on all. Charges talk about a sick.
Feeling if that were to, happen.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
How do how would you react to? That hold on
him and?

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Her and by the, way shame on you let stadium
for having such poor lighting that the guy thought that
was his.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
Wife there you go, there that's what he should have
did that should be.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Exposed you know, what something happened where there was like
a family tragedy or something to that, effect and and
there was just consolting that needed to take.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Place, yeah hold, ON i Need jonas to unload his.
CLIP i know he's got a bunch more jokes sitting in.
HERE i could tell by looking at. Him, yeah, Camera,
no he's sitting on a bunch of. Stuff that's where
he was, like, well he did nothing, Wrong he did nothing.

Speaker 2 (44:05):
Wrong who plays In Jellett? Stadium not The, patriots not? Lately,
OKAY i, mean well they're gonna sit in judgment all,
right the people that are that own and Operate Jellette
stadium judgment based on stuff we know about. Them so
clearly they're they're leading the way on being poor examples.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
Exactly keep, Going, lee what's this guy's? Name this Uh Andy?
Byron and you got.

Speaker 2 (44:36):
My, support you got my. Support JUST i think this
is reckless. Reporting and so what they were hugging each,
other big. Deal you can't give somebody a hug these
days just because.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Interlocked oh so that was small less. TANGLE i, MEAN i,
mean who goes that far to know?

Speaker 2 (44:58):
That remember the pirates man who fell over the outfield.
WALL i, mean his fingers clearly were. Interlocked so this
guy didn't want her to fall out of the press.

Speaker 11 (45:07):
Spot that's there he, is and So God god, forbid
he shows a little bit compassion and concern for a
woman in distress who's going through a.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
Divorce but we're going to out this Guy coldplay out
to be ashamed of. THEMSELVES i, Mean, lee you have
a work. Wife everybody has. Workwives, YEAH i, agree nothing wrong.
Here you've never got on a.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Trip it's not like you've ever interlocked hands with your work.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Wife, yes we.

Speaker 12 (45:39):
Never you've never done, That, Lee lea has never had
anything with.

Speaker 2 (45:55):
That, Yeah, HEY i MEAN i mean at least they
were in The.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
States we don't need to say.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
That again because, yeah, listen it happens to the best of, us,
apparently so that it's not like they were out of the,
country you, know out Of coldplay. Concert they were At Gillette.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Stadium if there was one city you wouldn't want your work,
wife you, know or to be seen with your work,
wife OR i guess for women out, there your work.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Husband like what city would that be a?

Speaker 7 (46:32):
Thing?

Speaker 3 (46:33):
Vegas, yeah probably In.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Las, Vegas, Miamiami, miami but It's vegas number. One gotta
Be vegas got the. Motto, Yeah vegas has got to be.
PRETTY i mean, again good. Thing no one's ever been. There,
yeah what About? Vancouver is that A i'm thinking outside

(46:56):
the box. HERE i don't know why this is all
OUTSIDE i make it more.

Speaker 3 (47:00):
Exotic were in the? Bop go to break, Back go
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