December 1, 2025 • 41 mins
Dan thinks college football needs a commissioner to oversee the sprawling mess created by the new N.I.L. and transfer portal rules. And former NFL HC Bill Cowher drops by to talk some pigskin and weigh in on Aaron Rodgers’ tenure with the Steelers so far.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, so recapping Dan. If you're the ole miss ad,
would you have let Lane kiff It coach the playoff
seventy seven percent?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Say no, yeah, and keep sing be more than that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It should be one hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, not a hundred. I get that, but I would
say a good ninety percent. You don't know he can't coach.
We don't. We're not gonna let you take a victory
lap here. Hey, look at what I did. Now see,
I'm gonna take some of these coaches in, some of
these players. No, you don't. You don't think they can
win a national championship. That's part of the reason why
you're leaving. Go you go, What else do you have?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, simply will lsu win a national title with Lane
Kiffin at the helm?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
To make the story even juicier, I'm gonna say yes.
They probably thought that was Brian Kelly too. I did not.
I did not, not even a little bit. No, I
did not. No, I'll leave it at that. I didn't
have a good feeling when he was going there.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What about pre fake Southern accent?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Maybe I was more all in with before the fake
accent than when I had the fake accent. I went, oh,
my goodness, what are we doing here? Haven't Eve won
all my games? Do you remember when we dismissed the Dolphins?
They've won four or five? How about the Texans, they've
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won four in a row. Maybe the Niners with all
those injuries, don't they have nine wins this season? How
about the Cowboys? See this is what happens with hot
takes where he loved to kick somebody the curb or
you're going to make this proclamation this guy is this
good or this team is this bad. That's what we do.
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We do that weekend and we count because we can't
let something just percolate a little bit. Everything's on the
front burner. Sometimes it should be on the back burner.
It's going to take a little while before this is done.
But the Texans have a great defense. Texans in Seattle,
those defenses, man, are they great? Now? Can you get
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some offense? That's really the key. And you're seeing that
Seattle has the second best Super Bowl odds right now,
and I think that would surprise some people. But granted,
they beat up on an undrafted free agent quarterback and
Max Brosmer. He threw four interceptions, including a pick six,
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But Seattle is really good and in that ballpark, that stadium,
they are dangerous, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And you can also I always do this at grade
teams by point differential. The Seahawks have outscored their opponents
by one hundred and thirty three points this season. Tampa
Bay's in first place, there's seven to five. They've been
out scored by twenty two points. The Bears had the
same record as the Seahawks. They've only outscored the oppontents
by six points. It's almost like not a strength to schedule,
but almost like a power ranking with the point differential.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is the first time in NFL history five division
races either tied or within a half game through Week
thirteen of a season. Also, this happens every single year.
There are eight teams who are five hundred or better
that missed the playoffs in the previous year. Patriots, Seahawks, Bears, Niners, Jags, Colts, Cowboys,
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and the Panthers. And the Panthers got my attention because
I watched a lot of that game and I thought,
all right, Matthew Stafford, you're going to add to those
touchdown totals, and then all of a sudden, that's a
pick six, and I thought, uh, oh, Carolina is not
going to go quietly here and give them credit. And
Bryce Young played really well, and yes, I know I
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might have to eat my words. I like Rice Young.
I just don't know if he's a franchise quarterback. But
when he needed to, he did it. Carolina is now
seven and six, their best record through Week thirteen since
twenty seventeen. Also, oh, and I was probably critiquing the
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trade itself because they gave up an awful lot to
be able to draft him number one. And Caleb Williams
has played well and a lot of times, you know,
quarterbacks are measured against each other, especially if they're in
the same draft. But you know these comebacks here, that's
eleven that he's had. That's the most in NFL history
for somebody his age, and going toe to tow against
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the Rams team that can win the Super Bowl, that's very,
very impressive. All right, So we have a new poll
question for hour two. Bill Cowher will join us more
of your phone calls as well. Lane Kiffin being introduced
today at LSU, and I spend a lot of time
in the first hour talking about this situation. College football
has an issue here and it feels like college football
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always has an issue. You know where the transfer portal
and NIL coaches can go, they can go during the season.
College football needs to have a commissioner. Greg Sank needs
to say, let me oversee this so we don't continue
to do stupid things. And that's really what's happening here.
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You got to have somebody in charge who's going to say,
here's our transfer portal, here's the money with NIL, here's
the collectives, here's when a coach can talk to another school.
No coaches can leave during the season. I mean, these
are things that need to be cleaned up. It's not
just Lane Kiffin. He's just the latest, and there'll be
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somebody else, and then somebody else and somebody else. But
college football. You want to expand the playoffs so that
means more coaches who are maybe in the playoffs could
be leaving for another school. North Texas is playing two
Lane this next weekend. Both coaches already gone to new schools.
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Lane Kiffin was going to host a playoff game and
he's going downsu crazy. And that's why when all I
keep hearing about the last couple of years, all the
kids are ruining. No they're not.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
No, they're not. The grown ups are ruining it. Yeah,
and we've said this one hundred times. If there was
a commissioner of college football, he wouldn't let Alabama play
Wofford on November twelfth.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
It wouldn't happen. Those games.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know, they don't happen all the time, but that
would never be allowed to happen. Scheduling person.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So college football. You know, Texas may not make the playoffs,
but Texas is on my short list if you don't
want to play Texas, and this should be the goal
of the college football Playoff Committee. I want the best
teams that I can put in there. Now some are
automatic qualifiers, but these other teams, the at large, Texas
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is really good right now, and I can't. Let's say
they didn't play Ohio State to start the season. Let's
say Texas had two losses. Do we look at Texas
differently and the answer is yes, Oh, they got three losses.
Nobody gets into the playoffs with three losses. Who are
the better teams? Notre Dame don't want to play them,
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but they're going to get in. Virginia might get in.
North Texas might get in. I know We love the
participation trophies where when you won your conference, so come
on in and you won your conference. I want you
to be the best teams. And I don't know if
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we always get that, but I hope we're getting better
at getting the right twelve teams in there because that's
what we want. I mean, I love honoring somebody who
had a really good season, but if we're playing for
the national championship, I gotta have the twelve best teams.
And do I think Texas is one of those teams? Yes?
I do. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Pulling the Miami Notre Dame thing is really interesting. Miami's
won four in a row. Their two losses are to
SMU and Louisville. Those aren't great, but they only lost
them by a total like eight points. It feels like
Miami's gonna get host.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, but I can't punish Notre Dame. They played Miami
at Miami and they lost to A and M on
a last second total down. That's a really good team. Now,
granted they played Stanford, but that's a really good team.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yes, Marvin, this might be recncy mice because of how
Miami's performed the past maybe fifteen years. If this was
two thousand and one. Miami's not getting hosts, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, they're not. No, but they're not anywhere near that
kind of team. Oh no, no, I know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I'm just talking about the reputation of the U in
twenty twenty five as opposed to the late nineers or
even early aughts.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But Texas is a really good team and to beat
A and M and Arch looked really good. He didn't
look good started the year. He looked a little bit overwhelmed,
but he has played extremely well. Did talk to an
NFL source who said Arch Manning would be the number
one pick in the draft if he was coming out now,
I can't, but he would be the number one pick. Well,
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he can after this year, right, He would be junior
eligible if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, So my source said, I think he would be
the number one pick in the draft. Do I think
he's a great quarterback?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No? Do.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I think the name and sort of the potential and
there's no great quarterback in this draft when you think
about it now, we thought it was. We thought that,
oh man, this is a quarterback. Rich Mendoz is really good.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
My source said, there's nothing that jumps out at you.
But that that's not a bad thing. It's that he
doesn't have a weakness. He just may not have that.
Oh my gosh, look how great he is. So uh
but Archie will probably stay for another year. Yeah, Paul,
it's so so tough.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I don't want to push the arch Manning narrative because
there's been no information to say he's going out. The
New Orleans Saints right now have the second pick of
the draft. The Titans have the first pick, and you
would think that they're not taking a quarterback. But man,
can you image if Neworleans is sitting there at two unlikely?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, you know, and he wouldn't beat out Shudoor Sanders
with the Browns of course if he went there. Just joking, Yeah,
I'm just joking. Just add a little levity there to
the Shoudore Sanders situation. Uh, not a good not a
good day for him or the Cleveland Browns. Yes, Paul,
(12:05):
I want to go back to that. If arch Manning
was eligible in this draft, the Tentacles he is. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
If he was out for this draft, he was, he
was including this draft. You got the Tennessee Titans who
would love to have a Manning on their roster. You
have the New Orleans Saints, which seems like destiny. Then
the Giants right now have the third pick. I know
they have Jackson Dart so they're not doing it, man,
they would have wanted to. Then it goes Vegas Cleveland
and the Jets have the seventh pick.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, man, oh man, there's some teams that you know
need quarterbacks there. But I don't know, you know, you're
trying to figure all of this out and uh, but
what you're seeing with Arch Manning is it's a nice
little comeback for him. I think sometimes, you know, once again,
we watched him in September and he didn't look good,
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and then all of a sudden you forget about him.
And then all of a sudden you watch the A
and M game and you go, okay, I mean got
to acknowledge he wasn't going to you know, take the
easy pass and you know, be in the hov lane
right to the Heisman. But I think he is, he's done.
He's done well in this comeback here. Yes, yes, Tom,
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But you always.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Say in terms of the draft, you know you get
don't get a quarterback, get your quarterback. If you're not
in love with the guy. If that's not your guy,
look at another position. Just to pick someone just to
check the QB box as a detriment.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, we have that every year. It feels like, you know,
somebody will go all right, let's take that quarterback. Let's
go up and get that quarterback. Now they are trying
to get their quarterback. I just think sometimes you reach.
The quarterback should be there that you can't pass up,
you know, like Atlanta, I just didn't. It felt like
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a reach since you spent all that money on Kirk Cousins,
and I don't Michael Pennix could turn out to be
the next Steve Young. But I've seen too many teams
take a quarterback because well we got to go get one,
and you're right, some aren't. I mean, we thought Shudoor
Sanders was a top three pick. Right in the draft.
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Dion was saying, hey, you know, I'm telling these teams
DoD draft him a week before. It's like, oh, man
shouldor it's gonna go first round, of course, and then
all of a sudden, the scouts get to look at him,
they do their interviews, they do their due diligence, and
then but we created we the media, it's like, man,
he's awesome, and then when he drops to the fifth round,
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we're like, what's wrong with him? Okay, we overinflated him
because we got caught up in Shador Sanders in the name,
and maybe he turns out to be a good quarterback.
I'm glad that he's getting a couple of starts here
because be fair to him and Dylan Gabriel, because if
you move on and get another quarterback, at least you've
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given them the opportunity.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Yes, Marvin, do you think Archman he might turn into
a Shadoor situation from the fact of all right, we'll
get him be because of the name and because of
who's related to. But he might not be as good
as we think he is. But he's a great story
and he's gonna lead Sports Center in every other show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I don't want that. I don't want a great
story or a covered story because I do think that
this will come back and hurt Shador Sanders, that he
might be viewed as a Tim Tebow kind of quarterback
that he's either starting or you can't have him on
your roster because he's gonna get so much attention here.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Yeah, Mark, But that happened with Quinn yours in Ars Manning. Well,
is Arch gonna get in the game? So that might
be the same situation because and it's not there for Well,
it's not Arch's fault. Arch is just trying to be
out there and be a good teammate and play. But
because of his last name, the cam, the camera's gonna
be on him no matter what.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's our fault. We're the ones who do this. Everybody
clamoring for Shadoor Sanders, when's he gonna get in?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Can I get is he gonna Does he get the game?
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Ball?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, why didn't you get the game? He didn't
get the first first rount, first team raps? Like what's
going on here? So we're the ones that create this, Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Think that the NFL teams will look at Arch Manning
not for his upside before his lack of downside, like
he is a safe pick. It's hard to picture a
Manning quarterback not working out to some level, almost like
remember when Chris Long was the number one pick of
the draft out of Virginia and that was a draft
that didn't have an alpha dog, a clowny type player,
and I think they took Chris long because of his
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family lineage, and they said, well, he'll be good for
a long time, and it's a very safe pick.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
All right, let me take a break. I got Bill
Kauer set to join us coming up. Yes, Marvin, don't
make coach angry this time. I think he likes getting
fired up.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
I do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sorry for the cold, it still reom mains here, so
trying to plow through this. All right, we'll take a
break back after this.
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Hall of Fame coach Bill Cower NFL Today on CBS
Studio analyst. You grew up in the Pittsburgh area, But
I was curious about the added pressure of coaching your
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team that you grew up with not wanting you know,
so there's enough pressure there, but now you're going to
coach the Steelers. How much added pressure was there with
that job title?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Well, I mean, I think when I first got the job,
I told you, damn. I first thought when I went
back to Kansas City after I was offered a job,
and I laid in bed that first night and I said, Wow,
if I don't screw this up, I can go back
to my twentieth high school class reunion as the head
coaching company. So my first goal was not to get
fired in those first three years. The pointing back there
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through the course of that time and just seeing what
Chuck had done with that team and how that the
renaissance of the seventies uplifted that whole city. It was
almost a responsibility I had, but it's also like a
connection that you had with the people that were there.
And you know, I identified with the heart, the lunch pale,
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hard working people, the blue collar element of it. I
worked in steel mills. I always had a summertime job
in Pittsburgh, so I understood what they were looking for.
They're very passionate fans, very knowledgeable fans about football, and
so through the course of time, it was more of
a responsibility. I felt like I had to represent that city.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
What do you make of the fire Mike Tomlin chance
that we heard yesterday towards the tail end of that performance.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, I mean, like I said, they're very passionate fans,
and you know, and I think it's you know, listen
where they are right now. They're six and six. They've
not played very good football these last you know what,
two and five in the last seven games. So it's
it's a scenario. But the fact of the matter is,
we know, with five games ago, they still have a
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chance to win their division. They're not trending in the
right way I thought, I think on either side of
the ball, and going up against Baltimore Ravens, now they
got them two more times, they got still played the
Detroit Lions, the Cleveland Browns, and Elison still got played
to Miami Dolphin. So we'll see what happens. Think again,
you know, the results will speak for themselves. But I
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think from Mike's standpoint, I know one thing. He's not
gonna let the outside noise influence or how he's going
to change his approach to this next game. He knows
it's a lot on stake. They're not playing great football
right now. He's got to find a way to rally
that group and get them to believe that they still
have a chance to win this division.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Did you get fire chance when you were there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Ilder, I got a fire chance, But I think that
I was. You know, there were some people that when
you when you had to lose a year and you
walk past them, people start to whisper before they say, hey, coach,
great to see him. When they start, when they start whispering, Dan,
you know, it's probably not a good thing. So when
you walk by and people are whispering, that's probably a
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good sign if things are not going that well. When
they walk by and it's going well, they going hey coach,
great job, good luck, Hey love what you're doing. Hey
might want to throw the ball a little bit more. Okay, gotcha.
You know you're right on. So I got to the point, actually,
I said, you know, my point is when we won,
I had no problems stopping the way home from gas
getting gas. When we lost, I waited till I kept
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the night was dark. It was by ten thirty eleven.
That was yes, And I didn't want to hear about it. Honestly,
in the morning on the way to work, Like you know,
I didn't want to hear about anyone because they would
Everybody would pull up right next to me. They would
be act like they're pulling up their their their gas
tank was absolutely full. They wou't even put the nozzle in.
They would stand there in front of their cars and
tell me everything that I should be doing. We're not
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running the football enough. You're too conservative. You like we
have nobody's rushing the quarterback, and like you need to
make some changes on that team and even with their
coaching staff. Now that we go yes, yes, yes, and yes,
you're probably right, I need to reevaluate.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What kind of job offers or feelers did you get
when you were with the Steelers. How often does that
happen on an NFL level.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Oh, I I never even entertained. I don't think it doesn't.
It doesn't happen at all. I think once you're with
when you're with a team, like you're trying, you're just
trying to win year to year. You know, my my,
my fear of failure far exceeded my desire to win.
I did not want to fail and get fired. I
mean I that was always over top of my head.
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And I just knew results oriented business and if you
didn't produce, you're gonna be asked to move on because
that's just the nature of that profession. So I understood
that getting into that profession. But you know, you never
think about the next job, at least I didn't from
my standpoint. I again, I've been in one place for
a long period of time, Dan, I was in Pittsburgh
for fifteen years. I've been in the CBS for nineteen years.
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I'm not the kind of guy that's looking for the
grassby and greener. On the other side, I like to
be appreciated. And if I appreciated you and get the
very best of me, and you know what, I appreciate
being able to go to work well. I am appreciated, but.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's standard procedure in college football. Now, why is.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
That, I don't know, I go back. I think it's
I think it's the lack of structure that the NCAAA
has right now in terms of these timetables, in terms
of the pool, the transfer a portal that takes place,
allowing coaches to leave before they're an end of their
contracts to go to other places. It doesn't happen in
the NFL. There's a very there's a very discipline structure
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that we have, there's a salary cap, there is a
time from free agency that happens afterwards. You know, head
coaches aren't going to be able to go from one
team to another because you're not even talking to another team. Now,
the biggest thing in the NFL to me, the problem
that you have, if you indeed it is, and I
didn't think it was, was your assistance because at the
end of the season and you're in the playoffs, the
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assistants have an opportunity to talk to other teams. But
I always looked at that as a feather in your cap.
And I always thought to him because I know when
I was getting an interviewed at times that you know what,
my resume is being put on that table with that
playoff game. So I was more inspired to do well
in that playoff game as opposed to thinking about putting
your staff together, thinking about you know what you're going
to do and your mind isn't on the game. I
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don't think that's the case. So I don't think think
we have that in the National Football League. I think
the NCAA is really it's the wild, wild West. I've
said that out there. I said it yesterday, went on
a little bit of a rant. It's just a problem
for me is that the people that get lost in
this are the are the players and the message we're
sending to them, the lack of trust that they're going
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to start having it in our institutions, in our systems,
because you know what, that's what we're going to lose
if you're telling them one thing and you're doing another thing.
And any other part of that is the entitlement that
we now are doing with young players. When a quarterback
is making four million dollars a year and the alignments
up there has got a four year scholarship is getting
paid nothing. Okay, but because you know what one percent
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of the people in college are going to play pro
teaching life lessons about what business is like, what going
into the next level of life is about responsibility, having
a job, working for someone and having the fs mAbs
to a boss and work your way up the ladder.
You know, sometimes you're not gonna get entitled to something
because you think you decide a part of it. You
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may have to work for a long period of time
to get that opportunity. There's nothing wrong with a good
work ethic, a degree of saying, you know what, I'm
going to compete for whatever I need to compete for,
because you know what, that will serve you better in
wife than being entitled and been handed something that really
to me is they're too young to be given that
kind of money.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
If you were the old miss athletic director and Lane
Kiffin said to you, hey, I want to coach this
team in the playoffs, you would have said.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
You decided to go to LSU, thank you and goodbye.
What Let you come here. Let you come here for
the next month and talk about how great LSU is
over Mississippi. You kid me, seriously, to even ask for
that question is like, that's an arrogance. You know, that's arrogance.
I think what happened there is a disgrace to the
coaching profession because I would just say this, the coaching
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professions by developing young men. It's not about chasing the
green or grass somewhere else. It'd be an angulance chaser
and go, oh, I can fix you, and then when
you fix that, let me go here and fix that.
It's about developing young men. It's about trying to create tradition,
pageantry for the institution that you work for. We had
robbery weekend. We just came off of what's a robbery anymore?
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What's the conference anymore? I'm telling you we're losing some
of the very core fiber of things that we have
grown up loving about college football, and we're watching it
to tier right right before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Famer and Super
Bowl champ with the Steelers. You know some of these
teams we rode off back in September, maybe in October,
like the Texans, the Dolphins, the Niners with their injuries.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
How about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean they're dangerous. I don't know
if they have enough time, but you know, you beat
the Chiefs and the Eagles over a span of four days,
you have to get everybody's attention there, coach, I would.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Think so the job that Brian Shotenheimer has done through
the course of everything that they've dealt with down there,
you know, and hey, I would love to see the
Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs, okay,
because I want to know for once and farm because
they met once and it was a time who was right,
Micah Parsons or Jerry Jones? So to get me into
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the playoffs where we can't end this thing in a time?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Do you think they both won? I do?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I do? I think? You know, we sat there and
criticized Jerry all this time for what he did, but
I think going on getting Quentinn Williams, Overshawn came back,
you know, and and Wilson came in, and all of
a sudden, now these last three games, this defense has
taken on a different identity. Matt Eberflus say, Jerry stayed
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with him, Brian has stayed with him. I think Brian
has called an amazing offensive games weekend and week out.
The offense is playing at a very high level. I
think they're playing with a lot of confidence. And I
think the question is, as you stated, Dan, is that
today dig themselves too big of a hole. I don't know,
but I know there's still five games left for these
guys and anything can happen, because I think that it's
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really shrunk right now. The National Football League, their parody
has never been greater. Every team that you think is
on top. We saw the Rams get beat by Carolina.
We saw last night the Denver Broncos get taken to
overtime by the Washington Commanders, and who knows what's gonna
happen to night with New England and the New York Giants.
So I think the NFL was in a tremendous place
from the standpoint that it's going to go down to
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the final weeks, and I think for the first time
we may have a seventh seed and maybe two seven
seeds that could win in the wildcard round.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Was it tough as a coach tougher to understand your
quarterback or the wide receivers that you.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Had, they go, they go hand in hand. I think
the wide receivers, you know, I think the quarterback is
going to touch the ball every game, every play. The
wide receivers you got kind of like you got to
massage them a little bit because you want them to
block for you, You want them to do the dirty work,
but you better give them the ball a little bit too.
So like trying to be able to keep people happy
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is like the job that I think of a coordinator
to duke and the guy involved early for the quarterback
to do to make sure he can massage all the
egos that's in there in that huddle that he's got
because a lot everybody wants to have the ball at
the end of the game, and really the only one
that's gonna have the ball to begin every play is
going to be that is going to be that uh
that that quarterback. So I just think the quarterback is
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becomes a reflection of the head coach at some point,
and I.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Think, Ben, are your wide receivers, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I didn't let the wide receiver they didn't bother. Ben
drove me crazier because I hated me because he had
to be a reflection of me. Dan. So that's what
I'm saying. I didn't worry about I didn't worry about
the wide receivers like they're gonna they're gonna be mad,
they're gonna they're gonna say all these things. That's fine,
I get it. They know they want the ball, they
want it for all the right reasons. But the quarterback like,
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you guys, you gotta think like me, that like and
so it's like that's the one and at times I
gotta let them be them too. So I said to
a fine line, a give and take, you know, And
that's so, that's that's the guy that's gotta be reflecting you.
I think there's no great example that. And you're seeing
bow Nicks and Sean Payton. I think they they are
working hand in hand, and Sean appreciates bo and but
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I'm sure Sean wants to stay on bow to try
to get him to be able to be that you know,
toughling guy that's gonna be really good in the tough situations.
And so it's, uh, it's kind of fun to watch
these young quarterbacks evolve with these with the with their coaches.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I thought it was funny you told the story where
Ben acted look like he couldn't hear you when you
were calling you.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Play Yeah, yeah, yeah. He starts bounding, he starts and
I'm thinking, you know, I know he can hear it.
I know he can hear us. So I said, grab that,
and he goes. I said grab that helmets soon as
he comes off that field, and they grab. He says
if they go, it's working now. And I go, Ben,
it's working. He goes, I must have just back on.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, he was good enough that he could still do that.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, yes, he would like he would. We would have
the banter back and forth, and it was respectful banters.
He'd always knew where I stood, and I always appreciated
where he was at. Didn't always agree with it at times,
but you know what, you earned the right to have
that ability, to have that input, to have that respect.
The one thing I knew about Ben Roethlisberger that when
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the game was on the line and it was in
the fourth quarter, he wanted to bow in his hands.
And you know what, there was probably no other player
that I would have wanted to have the ball in
hands than him.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
When was the last time you didn't have a mustache? Ah?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Good question, You know I shaved it. I ship went
down the boat Head Island one time, like my fourth year,
and I said, you know what, everyone's recognizing me down here.
So I shaved it, and I'm telling you, it was
the best thing in the world. I'd be walking by
and they're like, you know, I mean hey, like you go, hey, hey,
you know the coach cowers on this on this on
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this island. I go, really, where's he at? So it was,
you know, So it was. It was. It's been a while,
it's been a while. It's not a good looks it's
for me right now. It's just it's not a good look.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But did you did you have bust approval for the
Hall of Fame for your mustache?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah? I wow. That wasn't even an option. I mean,
it had had had to be that, because how would.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You even take show it to you before?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Yes, there was that, and then they kind of excepted,
you know. I think they sentuated the chin a little bit.
I don't think it's that bad, but they.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Which was.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
I don't know if I agree with that that portrait
of it, but that's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Did your wife have a say in this?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah? I think when I shaved it, the first thing
she said, please don't shave again. So so, in other words,
how long is it going to take the grow back?
So I think that got That was my first sign
that you know what, Okay, maybe it's not a good luck.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's not leaving, not leaving great to talk to you.
And we played nice today at that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I know, I know you know, well, you know what
I think coming off coming off the what happened yesterday.
But let me ask you, did you have a nice Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It's still going on, coach, It's not a day. It's
really a spirit that I have.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah. Well, so let me ask you what do you
think was the best game? What do you think was
the best game with Thanksgiving weekend? With with the NFL
Green Bay, Detroit, Dallas, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Joe Burrow, Baltimore
or Eagles and Bears.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I would say Dallas and Kansas City because that's that
that's a heavyweight fight and you know the hype involved
with that and it lived up to it, and Dallas
winning that game I thought made for great content. I
think Joe Burrow coming back and doing what he did
against the Ravens, that's pretty big. And now you got
Steelers and the Ravens coming up this next weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Can you imagine if the four and eight Bengals get
Joe burrowed back. They can still win the division. They
really can't. Yeah, now you got to go to Buffalo
this next week, so we'll see. The NFL has never
been so much intrigued, so many storylines. It's never been better.
So let's let's talk again in about a month and
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see who's doing it.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'll make it a date.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Okay, that sounds good. Well, I'm glad you keep the
spirit going because you were really good today. You didn't
even like you're even like you were actually trying to
get me, asked some really good questions. It was really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I wasn't gonna do that. I was gonna be nice.
I was gonna play nice. But I can't guarantee in
a month from now.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
No, I expect that I never come on with the
expectation of you being nice. I prepare myself in the mornings.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'll bet you do. You psych yourself up to come on.
Stare at yourself in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I look like I look at you like like like
a like a divisional opponent. I make it personal.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Would you want to hit me, like tackle me?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
No? No, I respect.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You, No, I got a arm shiver.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Oh no, just I would probably bump you if I
passed you, Okay, yeah, if you got like if like
we were walking down the same one, would you turn?
Would you would you like be the one that gets
out of the way for coming down the same path
like I I most of the time, I would. I
think I would get out of the way of you
because I respect you. But if you mumbled something on
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the way past me, if you start whispering, because I
know if you're whispering.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You're saying something, thank you, coach, all right, thanks Dan,
thank you. That's Bill Cower. Bill, it's Bill Cower by
the way right there, that's him.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
That's the guy.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Uh yeah, you know, Marvin, So you're gonna play nice
with coach Coward. Yeah, I mean if we're in the
same room. Maybe not now, I would definitely be on
my best behavior. He looks like he would like to
pop you once. That's all like just a like a forearm.
I'd be okay with that, you know, I would content
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there he is smiling. All right, We'll take a break.
Our best and worst of the weekend after this.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
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Speaker 2 (36:30):
Let's go around the room, Fretzy, Best and Worst of
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Best of the weekend Quintravion Wisner rushes for one hundred
and fifty five yards. On Friday, the Texas Longhord score
twenty four second half points to beat Texas A and
M twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
That was impressive.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Worst at home in the Big House on Saturday, Michigan
can only muster three field goals in the first half,
came up completely empty in the second half, losing to
rival Ohio State twenty seven to nine.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Were you able to watch sports when you were in Amsterdam?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I was not. We were doing a lot of sight
seeing stuff. In the time difference was all wacky because
games were being played like all hours of the night,
middle of the night. So I was following it, you know,
through stories and columns and websites. I did watch the
Bronco game from the Philadelphia airports and on the plane.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, what was the highlight of Copenhagen.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
The highlight of Copenhagen was the Rix Museum. If I'm
pronouncing that right, It's like I'm not actually in Amsterdam.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
It was the Rix Museum. We went to the Anne
Frank House.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So we went to this adorable little town that had
a bunch of windmills that you can climb in and
look how they make wooden shoes.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Took a quick peek at.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The red light district, but I was with my wife
and daughter, so I was very very quick.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Awkward peak.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
So we just kept the line moving just to check
the box that we saw the red light district and
did you wave?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Did you wave to anybody?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I took an extended glance, and then I got pulled
by my daughter saying that that's not nice what you're
doing with your wife. My mom's standing here. And then
we just went about our business. But nice dinners. The
hard Rock Cafe had a Thanksgiving dinner thing, so.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what we spent.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
That was only's the most fritzy thing ever, hard Rocket awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
And it was it was really quickly.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
We went on a boat ride down the canals and uh,
just a lot of wonderful sight, saying, very interesting, quaint town, very.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Cute, all right, Dylan Best and worst of the weekend,
all right.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Dan Best, Our unlv rebels making the Mountain West Championship
against Boise State because of a compiling of different multiple
national metrics to put them over New Mexico and San
Diego State. They're all six and two, and all four
of those teams didn't meet this year, so they left
it up to the nerds.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
To figure out. Okay, uh and my worst.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Then Thanksgiving Day Underdogs go three and oh outright, that
was a personal worst. And it's the first time that
all three Thanksgiving Dogs have won since two thousand and
six because that's when they added.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
A third game uh UNLV at Boise State. Boise State
favored by three and a half Mountain West.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
All right, Marvin I got two first best, Josh Allen
says to all time record for rushing teas by a
quarterback with seventy six passing Cam Newton. He's probably gonna
hit one hundred other best. I know they lost, but
Davante Adams two touchdown receptions. He leads the NFL in
touchdown receptions with fourteen the season.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Paulie Best and worst Best Joe Burrow playing and winning
for the Bengals on Thanksgiving Night. I just I think
that's why he's such a popular player. Is that he
didn't have to play. There's not a lot to play for,
and just it's great for him, It's great for his
team and his image. The other best of the weekend,
You know what, Dan, I love the FCS playoffs. My
Yale Bulldogs were down big at halftime thirty five seven
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to Youngstown State. Then the Penguins park it up a
little bit. Yale scores forty three forty two.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
To win it at basically at the buzzer Johnny and Pittsburgh,
Hey Johnny, thanks for holding best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Hey fellows sixty three, Huskier took sixty three. First of all, Coward,
what a dude's dude. I just love his interviews.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I love his takes and my best and the worst
Bill's winning this weekend, and the worst and the worst
are is obviously the lin kiff and saga and the
dichotomy of that with what I witnessed at the game
last night in Pittsburgh. My wife on Bills fan, But
I'm kind of ambivalent towards the Steelers, but it really
(40:28):
is sad where it's gone here and hearing that chant,
you know, whether Sam that's or infamous, we all know
owners in the NFL. One name that is off the
lips of everybody out of respect is the Ruoneys. And
when you start hearing this town with the fire time
with chance and then questioning the Rooneys, you know, I
(40:48):
just it's it's it's a sad site for even a
Bill santasy.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah. I don't know if it personal, it's just they
want a winner, they want a playoff team. They're so
used to this. Yeah, I want something new, as if
you know, somebody else coming in is going to change
the fortunes of the Steelers. But local narrative, national narrative
feel different with Mike Tomlin. But those chants yesterday, Wow,
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the honors, and then we'll get one for hour two.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
Yeah, so recapping Dan. If you're the ole miss ad,
would you have let Lane kiff It coach the playoff
seventy seven percent?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Say no, yeah, and keep sing be more than that.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It should be one hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well, not a hundred. I get that, but I would
say a good ninety percent. You don't know he can't coach.
We don't. We're not gonna let you take a victory
lap here. Hey, look at what I did. Now see,
I'm gonna take some of these coaches in, some of
these players. No, you don't. You don't think they can
win a national championship. That's part of the reason why
you're leaving. Go you go, What else do you have?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well, simply will lsu win a national title with Lane
Kiffin at the helm?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Or no?
Speaker 2 (01:49):
To make the story even juicier, I'm gonna say yes.
They probably thought that was Brian Kelly too. I did not.
I did not, not even a little bit. No, I
did not. No, I'll leave it at that. I didn't
have a good feeling when he was going there.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
What about pre fake Southern accent?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Maybe I was more all in with before the fake
accent than when I had the fake accent. I went, oh,
my goodness, what are we doing here? Haven't Eve won
all my games? Do you remember when we dismissed the Dolphins?
They've won four or five? How about the Texans, they've
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won four in a row. Maybe the Niners with all
those injuries, don't they have nine wins this season? How
about the Cowboys? See this is what happens with hot
takes where he loved to kick somebody the curb or
you're going to make this proclamation this guy is this
good or this team is this bad. That's what we do.
(02:58):
We do that weekend and we count because we can't
let something just percolate a little bit. Everything's on the
front burner. Sometimes it should be on the back burner.
It's going to take a little while before this is done.
But the Texans have a great defense. Texans in Seattle,
those defenses, man, are they great? Now? Can you get
(03:20):
some offense? That's really the key. And you're seeing that
Seattle has the second best Super Bowl odds right now,
and I think that would surprise some people. But granted,
they beat up on an undrafted free agent quarterback and
Max Brosmer. He threw four interceptions, including a pick six,
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But Seattle is really good and in that ballpark, that stadium,
they are dangerous, yes, Paul.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
And you can also I always do this at grade
teams by point differential. The Seahawks have outscored their opponents
by one hundred and thirty three points this season. Tampa
Bay's in first place, there's seven to five. They've been
out scored by twenty two points. The Bears had the
same record as the Seahawks. They've only outscored the oppontents
by six points. It's almost like not a strength to schedule,
but almost like a power ranking with the point differential.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
This is the first time in NFL history five division
races either tied or within a half game through Week
thirteen of a season. Also, this happens every single year.
There are eight teams who are five hundred or better
that missed the playoffs in the previous year. Patriots, Seahawks, Bears, Niners, Jags, Colts, Cowboys,
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and the Panthers. And the Panthers got my attention because
I watched a lot of that game and I thought,
all right, Matthew Stafford, you're going to add to those
touchdown totals, and then all of a sudden, that's a
pick six, and I thought, uh, oh, Carolina is not
going to go quietly here and give them credit. And
Bryce Young played really well, and yes, I know I
(04:57):
might have to eat my words. I like Rice Young.
I just don't know if he's a franchise quarterback. But
when he needed to, he did it. Carolina is now
seven and six, their best record through Week thirteen since
twenty seventeen. Also, oh, and I was probably critiquing the
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trade itself because they gave up an awful lot to
be able to draft him number one. And Caleb Williams
has played well and a lot of times, you know,
quarterbacks are measured against each other, especially if they're in
the same draft. But you know these comebacks here, that's
eleven that he's had. That's the most in NFL history
for somebody his age, and going toe to tow against
(05:53):
the Rams team that can win the Super Bowl, that's very,
very impressive. All right, So we have a new poll
question for hour two. Bill Cowher will join us more
of your phone calls as well. Lane Kiffin being introduced
today at LSU, and I spend a lot of time
in the first hour talking about this situation. College football
has an issue here and it feels like college football
(06:16):
always has an issue. You know where the transfer portal
and NIL coaches can go, they can go during the season.
College football needs to have a commissioner. Greg Sank needs
to say, let me oversee this so we don't continue
to do stupid things. And that's really what's happening here.
(06:36):
You got to have somebody in charge who's going to say,
here's our transfer portal, here's the money with NIL, here's
the collectives, here's when a coach can talk to another school.
No coaches can leave during the season. I mean, these
are things that need to be cleaned up. It's not
just Lane Kiffin. He's just the latest, and there'll be
(06:57):
somebody else, and then somebody else and somebody else. But
college football. You want to expand the playoffs so that
means more coaches who are maybe in the playoffs could
be leaving for another school. North Texas is playing two
Lane this next weekend. Both coaches already gone to new schools.
(07:19):
Lane Kiffin was going to host a playoff game and
he's going downsu crazy. And that's why when all I
keep hearing about the last couple of years, all the
kids are ruining. No they're not.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
No, they're not. The grown ups are ruining it. Yeah,
and we've said this one hundred times. If there was
a commissioner of college football, he wouldn't let Alabama play
Wofford on November twelfth.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
It wouldn't happen. Those games.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know, they don't happen all the time, but that
would never be allowed to happen. Scheduling person.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
So college football. You know, Texas may not make the playoffs,
but Texas is on my short list if you don't
want to play Texas, and this should be the goal
of the college football Playoff Committee. I want the best
teams that I can put in there. Now some are
automatic qualifiers, but these other teams, the at large, Texas
(08:15):
is really good right now, and I can't. Let's say
they didn't play Ohio State to start the season. Let's
say Texas had two losses. Do we look at Texas
differently and the answer is yes, Oh, they got three losses.
Nobody gets into the playoffs with three losses. Who are
the better teams? Notre Dame don't want to play them,
(08:38):
but they're going to get in. Virginia might get in.
North Texas might get in. I know We love the
participation trophies where when you won your conference, so come
on in and you won your conference. I want you
to be the best teams. And I don't know if
(09:00):
we always get that, but I hope we're getting better
at getting the right twelve teams in there because that's
what we want. I mean, I love honoring somebody who
had a really good season, but if we're playing for
the national championship, I gotta have the twelve best teams.
And do I think Texas is one of those teams? Yes?
I do. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Pulling the Miami Notre Dame thing is really interesting. Miami's
won four in a row. Their two losses are to
SMU and Louisville. Those aren't great, but they only lost
them by a total like eight points. It feels like
Miami's gonna get host.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, but I can't punish Notre Dame. They played Miami
at Miami and they lost to A and M on
a last second total down. That's a really good team. Now,
granted they played Stanford, but that's a really good team.
Speaker 7 (09:51):
Yes, Marvin, this might be recncy mice because of how
Miami's performed the past maybe fifteen years. If this was
two thousand and one. Miami's not getting hosts, correct.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, they're not. No, but they're not anywhere near that
kind of team. Oh no, no, I know.
Speaker 7 (10:06):
I'm just talking about the reputation of the U in
twenty twenty five as opposed to the late nineers or
even early aughts.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
But Texas is a really good team and to beat
A and M and Arch looked really good. He didn't
look good started the year. He looked a little bit overwhelmed,
but he has played extremely well. Did talk to an
NFL source who said Arch Manning would be the number
one pick in the draft if he was coming out now,
I can't, but he would be the number one pick. Well,
(10:36):
he can after this year, right, He would be junior
eligible if you wanted to.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Yeah, So my source said, I think he would be
the number one pick in the draft. Do I think
he's a great quarterback?
Speaker 6 (10:49):
No? Do.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
I think the name and sort of the potential and
there's no great quarterback in this draft when you think
about it now, we thought it was. We thought that,
oh man, this is a quarterback. Rich Mendoz is really good.
Speaker 6 (11:03):
But I didn't.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
My source said, there's nothing that jumps out at you.
But that that's not a bad thing. It's that he
doesn't have a weakness. He just may not have that.
Oh my gosh, look how great he is. So uh
but Archie will probably stay for another year. Yeah, Paul,
it's so so tough.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
I don't want to push the arch Manning narrative because
there's been no information to say he's going out. The
New Orleans Saints right now have the second pick of
the draft. The Titans have the first pick, and you
would think that they're not taking a quarterback. But man,
can you image if Neworleans is sitting there at two unlikely?
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Well, you know, and he wouldn't beat out Shudoor Sanders
with the Browns of course if he went there. Just joking, Yeah,
I'm just joking. Just add a little levity there to
the Shoudore Sanders situation. Uh, not a good not a
good day for him or the Cleveland Browns. Yes, Paul,
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I want to go back to that. If arch Manning
was eligible in this draft, the Tentacles he is. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
If he was out for this draft, he was, he
was including this draft. You got the Tennessee Titans who
would love to have a Manning on their roster. You
have the New Orleans Saints, which seems like destiny. Then
the Giants right now have the third pick. I know
they have Jackson Dart so they're not doing it, man,
they would have wanted to. Then it goes Vegas Cleveland
and the Jets have the seventh pick.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Yeah, man, oh man, there's some teams that you know
need quarterbacks there. But I don't know, you know, you're
trying to figure all of this out and uh, but
what you're seeing with Arch Manning is it's a nice
little comeback for him. I think sometimes, you know, once again,
we watched him in September and he didn't look good,
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and then all of a sudden you forget about him.
And then all of a sudden you watch the A
and M game and you go, okay, I mean got
to acknowledge he wasn't going to you know, take the
easy pass and you know, be in the hov lane
right to the Heisman. But I think he is, he's done.
He's done well in this comeback here. Yes, yes, Tom,
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But you always.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Say in terms of the draft, you know you get
don't get a quarterback, get your quarterback. If you're not
in love with the guy. If that's not your guy,
look at another position. Just to pick someone just to
check the QB box as a detriment.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, we have that every year. It feels like, you know,
somebody will go all right, let's take that quarterback. Let's
go up and get that quarterback. Now they are trying
to get their quarterback. I just think sometimes you reach.
The quarterback should be there that you can't pass up,
you know, like Atlanta, I just didn't. It felt like
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a reach since you spent all that money on Kirk Cousins,
and I don't Michael Pennix could turn out to be
the next Steve Young. But I've seen too many teams
take a quarterback because well we got to go get one,
and you're right, some aren't. I mean, we thought Shudoor
Sanders was a top three pick. Right in the draft.
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Dion was saying, hey, you know, I'm telling these teams
DoD draft him a week before. It's like, oh, man
shouldor it's gonna go first round, of course, and then
all of a sudden, the scouts get to look at him,
they do their interviews, they do their due diligence, and
then but we created we the media, it's like, man,
he's awesome, and then when he drops to the fifth round,
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we're like, what's wrong with him? Okay, we overinflated him
because we got caught up in Shador Sanders in the name,
and maybe he turns out to be a good quarterback.
I'm glad that he's getting a couple of starts here
because be fair to him and Dylan Gabriel, because if
you move on and get another quarterback, at least you've
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given them the opportunity.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Yes, Marvin, do you think Archman he might turn into
a Shadoor situation from the fact of all right, we'll
get him be because of the name and because of
who's related to. But he might not be as good
as we think he is. But he's a great story
and he's gonna lead Sports Center in every other show.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, I don't want that. I don't want a great
story or a covered story because I do think that
this will come back and hurt Shador Sanders, that he
might be viewed as a Tim Tebow kind of quarterback
that he's either starting or you can't have him on
your roster because he's gonna get so much attention here.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
Yeah, Mark, But that happened with Quinn yours in Ars Manning. Well,
is Arch gonna get in the game? So that might
be the same situation because and it's not there for Well,
it's not Arch's fault. Arch is just trying to be
out there and be a good teammate and play. But
because of his last name, the cam, the camera's gonna
be on him no matter what.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's our fault. We're the ones who do this. Everybody
clamoring for Shadoor Sanders, when's he gonna get in?
Speaker 6 (15:53):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Can I get is he gonna Does he get the game?
Speaker 6 (15:55):
Ball?
Speaker 2 (15:56):
I mean, why didn't you get the game? He didn't
get the first first rount, first team raps? Like what's
going on here? So we're the ones that create this, Yes, Paul, I.
Speaker 5 (16:06):
Think that the NFL teams will look at Arch Manning
not for his upside before his lack of downside, like
he is a safe pick. It's hard to picture a
Manning quarterback not working out to some level, almost like
remember when Chris Long was the number one pick of
the draft out of Virginia and that was a draft
that didn't have an alpha dog, a clowny type player,
and I think they took Chris long because of his
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family lineage, and they said, well, he'll be good for
a long time, and it's a very safe pick.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
All right, let me take a break. I got Bill
Kauer set to join us coming up. Yes, Marvin, don't
make coach angry this time. I think he likes getting
fired up.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
I do.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Sorry for the cold, it still reom mains here, so
trying to plow through this. All right, we'll take a
break back after this.
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Speaker 2 (17:34):
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Hall of Fame coach Bill Cower NFL Today on CBS
Studio analyst. You grew up in the Pittsburgh area, But
I was curious about the added pressure of coaching your
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team that you grew up with not wanting you know,
so there's enough pressure there, but now you're going to
coach the Steelers. How much added pressure was there with
that job title?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
Well, I mean, I think when I first got the job,
I told you, damn. I first thought when I went
back to Kansas City after I was offered a job,
and I laid in bed that first night and I said, Wow,
if I don't screw this up, I can go back
to my twentieth high school class reunion as the head
coaching company. So my first goal was not to get
fired in those first three years. The pointing back there
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through the course of that time and just seeing what
Chuck had done with that team and how that the
renaissance of the seventies uplifted that whole city. It was
almost a responsibility I had, but it's also like a
connection that you had with the people that were there.
And you know, I identified with the heart, the lunch pale,
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hard working people, the blue collar element of it. I
worked in steel mills. I always had a summertime job
in Pittsburgh, so I understood what they were looking for.
They're very passionate fans, very knowledgeable fans about football, and
so through the course of time, it was more of
a responsibility. I felt like I had to represent that city.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
What do you make of the fire Mike Tomlin chance
that we heard yesterday towards the tail end of that performance.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Well, I mean, like I said, they're very passionate fans,
and you know, and I think it's you know, listen
where they are right now. They're six and six. They've
not played very good football these last you know what,
two and five in the last seven games. So it's
it's a scenario. But the fact of the matter is,
we know, with five games ago, they still have a
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chance to win their division. They're not trending in the
right way I thought, I think on either side of
the ball, and going up against Baltimore Ravens, now they
got them two more times, they got still played the
Detroit Lions, the Cleveland Browns, and Elison still got played
to Miami Dolphin. So we'll see what happens. Think again,
you know, the results will speak for themselves. But I
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think from Mike's standpoint, I know one thing. He's not
gonna let the outside noise influence or how he's going
to change his approach to this next game. He knows
it's a lot on stake. They're not playing great football
right now. He's got to find a way to rally
that group and get them to believe that they still
have a chance to win this division.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Did you get fire chance when you were there in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
Ilder, I got a fire chance, But I think that
I was. You know, there were some people that when
you when you had to lose a year and you
walk past them, people start to whisper before they say, hey, coach,
great to see him. When they start, when they start whispering, Dan,
you know, it's probably not a good thing. So when
you walk by and people are whispering, that's probably a
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good sign if things are not going that well. When
they walk by and it's going well, they going hey coach,
great job, good luck, Hey love what you're doing. Hey
might want to throw the ball a little bit more. Okay, gotcha.
You know you're right on. So I got to the point, actually,
I said, you know, my point is when we won,
I had no problems stopping the way home from gas
getting gas. When we lost, I waited till I kept
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the night was dark. It was by ten thirty eleven.
That was yes, And I didn't want to hear about it. Honestly,
in the morning on the way to work, Like you know,
I didn't want to hear about anyone because they would
Everybody would pull up right next to me. They would
be act like they're pulling up their their their gas
tank was absolutely full. They wou't even put the nozzle in.
They would stand there in front of their cars and
tell me everything that I should be doing. We're not
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running the football enough. You're too conservative. You like we
have nobody's rushing the quarterback, and like you need to
make some changes on that team and even with their
coaching staff. Now that we go yes, yes, yes, and yes,
you're probably right, I need to reevaluate.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
What kind of job offers or feelers did you get
when you were with the Steelers. How often does that
happen on an NFL level.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
Oh, I I never even entertained. I don't think it doesn't.
It doesn't happen at all. I think once you're with
when you're with a team, like you're trying, you're just
trying to win year to year. You know, my my,
my fear of failure far exceeded my desire to win.
I did not want to fail and get fired. I
mean I that was always over top of my head.
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And I just knew results oriented business and if you
didn't produce, you're gonna be asked to move on because
that's just the nature of that profession. So I understood
that getting into that profession. But you know, you never
think about the next job, at least I didn't from
my standpoint. I again, I've been in one place for
a long period of time, Dan, I was in Pittsburgh
for fifteen years. I've been in the CBS for nineteen years.
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I'm not the kind of guy that's looking for the
grassby and greener. On the other side, I like to
be appreciated. And if I appreciated you and get the
very best of me, and you know what, I appreciate
being able to go to work well. I am appreciated, but.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
It's standard procedure in college football. Now, why is.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
That, I don't know, I go back. I think it's
I think it's the lack of structure that the NCAAA
has right now in terms of these timetables, in terms
of the pool, the transfer a portal that takes place,
allowing coaches to leave before they're an end of their
contracts to go to other places. It doesn't happen in
the NFL. There's a very there's a very discipline structure
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that we have, there's a salary cap, there is a
time from free agency that happens afterwards. You know, head
coaches aren't going to be able to go from one
team to another because you're not even talking to another team. Now,
the biggest thing in the NFL to me, the problem
that you have, if you indeed it is, and I
didn't think it was, was your assistance because at the
end of the season and you're in the playoffs, the
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assistants have an opportunity to talk to other teams. But
I always looked at that as a feather in your cap.
And I always thought to him because I know when
I was getting an interviewed at times that you know what,
my resume is being put on that table with that
playoff game. So I was more inspired to do well
in that playoff game as opposed to thinking about putting
your staff together, thinking about you know what you're going
to do and your mind isn't on the game. I
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don't think that's the case. So I don't think think
we have that in the National Football League. I think
the NCAA is really it's the wild, wild West. I've
said that out there. I said it yesterday, went on
a little bit of a rant. It's just a problem
for me is that the people that get lost in
this are the are the players and the message we're
sending to them, the lack of trust that they're going
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to start having it in our institutions, in our systems,
because you know what, that's what we're going to lose
if you're telling them one thing and you're doing another thing.
And any other part of that is the entitlement that
we now are doing with young players. When a quarterback
is making four million dollars a year and the alignments
up there has got a four year scholarship is getting
paid nothing. Okay, but because you know what one percent
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of the people in college are going to play pro
teaching life lessons about what business is like, what going
into the next level of life is about responsibility, having
a job, working for someone and having the fs mAbs
to a boss and work your way up the ladder.
You know, sometimes you're not gonna get entitled to something
because you think you decide a part of it. You
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may have to work for a long period of time
to get that opportunity. There's nothing wrong with a good
work ethic, a degree of saying, you know what, I'm
going to compete for whatever I need to compete for,
because you know what, that will serve you better in
wife than being entitled and been handed something that really
to me is they're too young to be given that
kind of money.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
If you were the old miss athletic director and Lane
Kiffin said to you, hey, I want to coach this
team in the playoffs, you would have said.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
You decided to go to LSU, thank you and goodbye.
What Let you come here. Let you come here for
the next month and talk about how great LSU is
over Mississippi. You kid me, seriously, to even ask for
that question is like, that's an arrogance. You know, that's arrogance.
I think what happened there is a disgrace to the
coaching profession because I would just say this, the coaching
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professions by developing young men. It's not about chasing the
green or grass somewhere else. It'd be an angulance chaser
and go, oh, I can fix you, and then when
you fix that, let me go here and fix that.
It's about developing young men. It's about trying to create tradition,
pageantry for the institution that you work for. We had
robbery weekend. We just came off of what's a robbery anymore?
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What's the conference anymore? I'm telling you we're losing some
of the very core fiber of things that we have
grown up loving about college football, and we're watching it
to tier right right before our eyes.
Speaker 2 (26:27):
Talking to Bill Cower, the Hall of Famer and Super
Bowl champ with the Steelers. You know some of these
teams we rode off back in September, maybe in October,
like the Texans, the Dolphins, the Niners with their injuries.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
How about the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeah, yeah, well, I mean they're dangerous. I don't know
if they have enough time, but you know, you beat
the Chiefs and the Eagles over a span of four days,
you have to get everybody's attention there, coach, I would.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Think so the job that Brian Shotenheimer has done through
the course of everything that they've dealt with down there,
you know, and hey, I would love to see the
Green Bay Packers and the Dallas Cowboys in the playoffs, okay,
because I want to know for once and farm because
they met once and it was a time who was right,
Micah Parsons or Jerry Jones? So to get me into
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the playoffs where we can't end this thing in a time?
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Do you think they both won? I do?
Speaker 6 (27:27):
I do? I think? You know, we sat there and
criticized Jerry all this time for what he did, but
I think going on getting Quentinn Williams, Overshawn came back,
you know, and and Wilson came in, and all of
a sudden, now these last three games, this defense has
taken on a different identity. Matt Eberflus say, Jerry stayed
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with him, Brian has stayed with him. I think Brian
has called an amazing offensive games weekend and week out.
The offense is playing at a very high level. I
think they're playing with a lot of confidence. And I
think the question is, as you stated, Dan, is that
today dig themselves too big of a hole. I don't know,
but I know there's still five games left for these
guys and anything can happen, because I think that it's
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really shrunk right now. The National Football League, their parody
has never been greater. Every team that you think is
on top. We saw the Rams get beat by Carolina.
We saw last night the Denver Broncos get taken to
overtime by the Washington Commanders, and who knows what's gonna
happen to night with New England and the New York Giants.
So I think the NFL was in a tremendous place
from the standpoint that it's going to go down to
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the final weeks, and I think for the first time
we may have a seventh seed and maybe two seven
seeds that could win in the wildcard round.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Was it tough as a coach tougher to understand your
quarterback or the wide receivers that you.
Speaker 6 (28:44):
Had, they go, they go hand in hand. I think
the wide receivers, you know, I think the quarterback is
going to touch the ball every game, every play. The
wide receivers you got kind of like you got to
massage them a little bit because you want them to
block for you, You want them to do the dirty work,
but you better give them the ball a little bit too.
So like trying to be able to keep people happy
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is like the job that I think of a coordinator
to duke and the guy involved early for the quarterback
to do to make sure he can massage all the
egos that's in there in that huddle that he's got
because a lot everybody wants to have the ball at
the end of the game, and really the only one
that's gonna have the ball to begin every play is
going to be that is going to be that uh
that that quarterback. So I just think the quarterback is
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becomes a reflection of the head coach at some point,
and I.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Think, Ben, are your wide receivers, Well.
Speaker 6 (29:37):
I didn't let the wide receiver they didn't bother. Ben
drove me crazier because I hated me because he had
to be a reflection of me. Dan. So that's what
I'm saying. I didn't worry about I didn't worry about
the wide receivers like they're gonna they're gonna be mad,
they're gonna they're gonna say all these things. That's fine,
I get it. They know they want the ball, they
want it for all the right reasons. But the quarterback like,
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you guys, you gotta think like me, that like and
so it's like that's the one and at times I
gotta let them be them too. So I said to
a fine line, a give and take, you know, And
that's so, that's that's the guy that's gotta be reflecting you.
I think there's no great example that. And you're seeing
bow Nicks and Sean Payton. I think they they are
working hand in hand, and Sean appreciates bo and but
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I'm sure Sean wants to stay on bow to try
to get him to be able to be that you know,
toughling guy that's gonna be really good in the tough situations.
And so it's, uh, it's kind of fun to watch
these young quarterbacks evolve with these with the with their coaches.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
I thought it was funny you told the story where
Ben acted look like he couldn't hear you when you
were calling you.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
Play Yeah, yeah, yeah. He starts bounding, he starts and
I'm thinking, you know, I know he can hear it.
I know he can hear us. So I said, grab that,
and he goes. I said grab that helmets soon as
he comes off that field, and they grab. He says
if they go, it's working now. And I go, Ben,
it's working. He goes, I must have just back on.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Well, he was good enough that he could still do that.
Speaker 6 (31:08):
Yeah, yes, he would like he would. We would have
the banter back and forth, and it was respectful banters.
He'd always knew where I stood, and I always appreciated
where he was at. Didn't always agree with it at times,
but you know what, you earned the right to have
that ability, to have that input, to have that respect.
The one thing I knew about Ben Roethlisberger that when
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the game was on the line and it was in
the fourth quarter, he wanted to bow in his hands.
And you know what, there was probably no other player
that I would have wanted to have the ball in
hands than him.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
When was the last time you didn't have a mustache? Ah?
Speaker 6 (31:43):
Good question, You know I shaved it. I ship went
down the boat Head Island one time, like my fourth year,
and I said, you know what, everyone's recognizing me down here.
So I shaved it, and I'm telling you, it was
the best thing in the world. I'd be walking by
and they're like, you know, I mean hey, like you go, hey, hey,
you know the coach cowers on this on this on
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this island. I go, really, where's he at? So it was,
you know, So it was. It was. It's been a while,
it's been a while. It's not a good looks it's
for me right now. It's just it's not a good look.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
But did you did you have bust approval for the
Hall of Fame for your mustache?
Speaker 6 (32:23):
Yeah? I wow. That wasn't even an option. I mean,
it had had had to be that, because how would.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
You even take show it to you before?
Speaker 6 (32:32):
Yes, there was that, and then they kind of excepted,
you know. I think they sentuated the chin a little bit.
I don't think it's that bad, but they.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
Which was.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
I don't know if I agree with that that portrait
of it, but that's fine.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Did your wife have a say in this?
Speaker 6 (32:51):
Yeah? I think when I shaved it, the first thing
she said, please don't shave again. So so, in other words,
how long is it going to take the grow back?
So I think that got That was my first sign
that you know what, Okay, maybe it's not a good luck.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
It's not leaving, not leaving great to talk to you.
And we played nice today at that.
Speaker 6 (33:10):
I know, I know you know, well, you know what
I think coming off coming off the what happened yesterday.
But let me ask you, did you have a nice Thanksgiving?
Speaker 2 (33:19):
It's still going on, coach, It's not a day. It's
really a spirit that I have.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Yeah. Well, so let me ask you what do you
think was the best game? What do you think was
the best game with Thanksgiving weekend? With with the NFL
Green Bay, Detroit, Dallas, Kansas City, Cincinnati, Joe Burrow, Baltimore
or Eagles and Bears.
Speaker 2 (33:40):
I would say Dallas and Kansas City because that's that
that's a heavyweight fight and you know the hype involved
with that and it lived up to it, and Dallas
winning that game I thought made for great content. I
think Joe Burrow coming back and doing what he did
against the Ravens, that's pretty big. And now you got
Steelers and the Ravens coming up this next weekend.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
Can you imagine if the four and eight Bengals get
Joe burrowed back. They can still win the division. They
really can't. Yeah, now you got to go to Buffalo
this next week, so we'll see. The NFL has never
been so much intrigued, so many storylines. It's never been better.
So let's let's talk again in about a month and
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see who's doing it.
Speaker 2 (34:26):
Okay, Yeah, I'll make it a date.
Speaker 6 (34:28):
Okay, that sounds good. Well, I'm glad you keep the
spirit going because you were really good today. You didn't
even like you're even like you were actually trying to
get me, asked some really good questions. It was really good. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
I wasn't gonna do that. I was gonna be nice.
I was gonna play nice. But I can't guarantee in
a month from now.
Speaker 6 (34:44):
No, I expect that I never come on with the
expectation of you being nice. I prepare myself in the mornings.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I'll bet you do. You psych yourself up to come on.
Stare at yourself in the mirror.
Speaker 6 (35:00):
I look like I look at you like like like
a like a divisional opponent. I make it personal.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Would you want to hit me, like tackle me?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
No? No, I respect.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
You, No, I got a arm shiver.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Oh no, just I would probably bump you if I
passed you, Okay, yeah, if you got like if like
we were walking down the same one, would you turn?
Would you would you like be the one that gets
out of the way for coming down the same path
like I I most of the time, I would. I
think I would get out of the way of you
because I respect you. But if you mumbled something on
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the way past me, if you start whispering, because I
know if you're whispering.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
You're saying something, thank you, coach, all right, thanks Dan,
thank you. That's Bill Cower. Bill, it's Bill Cower by
the way right there, that's him.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
That's the guy.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
Uh yeah, you know, Marvin, So you're gonna play nice
with coach Coward. Yeah, I mean if we're in the
same room. Maybe not now, I would definitely be on
my best behavior. He looks like he would like to
pop you once. That's all like just a like a forearm.
I'd be okay with that, you know, I would content
(36:14):
there he is smiling. All right, We'll take a break.
Our best and worst of the weekend after this.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
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Speaker 2 (36:30):
Let's go around the room, Fretzy, Best and Worst of
the weekend.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Best of the weekend Quintravion Wisner rushes for one hundred
and fifty five yards. On Friday, the Texas Longhord score
twenty four second half points to beat Texas A and
M twenty seven to seventeen.
Speaker 6 (36:42):
That was impressive.
Speaker 4 (36:43):
Worst at home in the Big House on Saturday, Michigan
can only muster three field goals in the first half,
came up completely empty in the second half, losing to
rival Ohio State twenty seven to nine.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Were you able to watch sports when you were in Amsterdam?
Speaker 4 (36:56):
I was not. We were doing a lot of sight
seeing stuff. In the time difference was all wacky because
games were being played like all hours of the night,
middle of the night. So I was following it, you know,
through stories and columns and websites. I did watch the
Bronco game from the Philadelphia airports and on the plane.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
Okay, what was the highlight of Copenhagen.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
The highlight of Copenhagen was the Rix Museum. If I'm
pronouncing that right, It's like I'm not actually in Amsterdam.
Speaker 6 (37:22):
It was the Rix Museum. We went to the Anne
Frank House.
Speaker 4 (37:25):
So we went to this adorable little town that had
a bunch of windmills that you can climb in and
look how they make wooden shoes.
Speaker 6 (37:32):
Took a quick peek at.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The red light district, but I was with my wife
and daughter, so I was very very quick.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
Awkward peak.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
So we just kept the line moving just to check
the box that we saw the red light district and
did you wave?
Speaker 2 (37:43):
Did you wave to anybody?
Speaker 4 (37:45):
I took an extended glance, and then I got pulled
by my daughter saying that that's not nice what you're
doing with your wife. My mom's standing here. And then
we just went about our business. But nice dinners. The
hard Rock Cafe had a Thanksgiving dinner thing, so.
Speaker 1 (37:58):
That's what we spent.
Speaker 5 (37:59):
That was only's the most fritzy thing ever, hard Rocket awesome.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
And it was it was really quickly.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
We went on a boat ride down the canals and uh,
just a lot of wonderful sight, saying, very interesting, quaint town, very.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
Cute, all right, Dylan Best and worst of the weekend,
all right.
Speaker 3 (38:17):
Dan Best, Our unlv rebels making the Mountain West Championship
against Boise State because of a compiling of different multiple
national metrics to put them over New Mexico and San
Diego State. They're all six and two, and all four
of those teams didn't meet this year, so they left
it up to the nerds.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
To figure out. Okay, uh and my worst.
Speaker 3 (38:39):
Then Thanksgiving Day Underdogs go three and oh outright, that
was a personal worst. And it's the first time that
all three Thanksgiving Dogs have won since two thousand and
six because that's when they added.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
A third game uh UNLV at Boise State. Boise State
favored by three and a half Mountain West.
Speaker 7 (38:57):
All right, Marvin I got two first best, Josh Allen
says to all time record for rushing teas by a
quarterback with seventy six passing Cam Newton. He's probably gonna
hit one hundred other best. I know they lost, but
Davante Adams two touchdown receptions. He leads the NFL in
touchdown receptions with fourteen the season.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Paulie Best and worst Best Joe Burrow playing and winning
for the Bengals on Thanksgiving Night. I just I think
that's why he's such a popular player. Is that he
didn't have to play. There's not a lot to play for,
and just it's great for him, It's great for his
team and his image. The other best of the weekend,
You know what, Dan, I love the FCS playoffs. My
Yale Bulldogs were down big at halftime thirty five seven
(39:41):
to Youngstown State. Then the Penguins park it up a
little bit. Yale scores forty three forty two.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
To win it at basically at the buzzer Johnny and Pittsburgh,
Hey Johnny, thanks for holding best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 8 (39:55):
Hey fellows sixty three, Huskier took sixty three. First of all, Coward,
what a dude's dude. I just love his interviews.
Speaker 9 (40:07):
I love his takes and my best and the worst
Bill's winning this weekend, and the worst and the worst
are is obviously the lin kiff and saga and the
dichotomy of that with what I witnessed at the game
last night in Pittsburgh. My wife on Bills fan, But
I'm kind of ambivalent towards the Steelers, but it really
(40:28):
is sad where it's gone here and hearing that chant,
you know, whether Sam that's or infamous, we all know
owners in the NFL. One name that is off the
lips of everybody out of respect is the Ruoneys. And
when you start hearing this town with the fire time
with chance and then questioning the Rooneys, you know, I
(40:48):
just it's it's it's a sad site for even a
Bill santasy.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah. I don't know if it personal, it's just they
want a winner, they want a playoff team. They're so
used to this. Yeah, I want something new, as if
you know, somebody else coming in is going to change
the fortunes of the Steelers. But local narrative, national narrative
feel different with Mike Tomlin. But those chants yesterday, Wow,
(41:15):
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