May 15, 2026 • 14 mins
Will the famous catchphrase once again prove to be true in the upcoming election? CBS News & iHeart political analyst Gary Dietrich joins Jack for an around-the-horn look at the current world of politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, handing out porn machines
to prisoners in the state of California, paid for by taxpayers,
as reported yesterday, and we brought that story to you
at the cost of two thousand dollars per tablet much
more than if you'd have gone straight to Best Buy anyway,
and that they get to use him to look at porn.
He pushed back on that hard yesterday. So well, if
(00:20):
the governor pushed back on that story hard, So we'll
have to update you on that a little bit later
in the program. Joining us right now to talk about
some politics of whatever pops in oremind, Gary Dietrich, who's
been joining the Armstrong and Getty Show for many, many years.
He's a CBS Television and iHeartRadio political analyst.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
How are you today, Gary, Hey, Jack, I'm doing great,
my friend. Yeah, Well, no lack of things in the
political world these days.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Eh God, I'd say we're having the discussion yesterday Joe
and I on how just talking about like the national
mood where you see all these wrong direction numbers for
the country and the economy and all that sort of stuff.
It might just come down to when things are expensive,
they want somebody different. I mean, you know, politically, you
(01:04):
went to Harvard and political analysts and the political scientists
and all the complicated this and mass who's got the
best ads and who's got the most money in the
bank for buying ads, and who's got the endorsements and
all these complicated things we talk about. It might just
come down to if things are too expensive, they vote
for a different person.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, Jack here amazingly, Stuard, given the fact that
you're back in ninety two four words to find that
presidential campaign. As you'll now remember, it's the economy stupid
right right right, and that is that has continued to
ring so true that it's now practically, you know, taped
above every campaign headquarters door. I mean, and that's where
(01:43):
right now the president and the GOP find themselves in
a real conundrum, you know, over this over the inflation,
recent inflation numbers again going up a little bit. Of course,
we know, you know, the Iran war gas prices that
lead to all kinds of other as you know, inflationary pressures.
And that's the challenge right now on a national perspective,
because people are feeling it. They were already feeling it
(02:05):
as you know, going into twenty four that was supposed
to be relieved in twenty five by the Trump administration.
Numbers were kicking down, but as they go back up,
people ain't happy.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and you know they Trump brought some of this
on himself by insinuating that he could make prices go down,
which is not the way inflation works. You could stop
the prices for going up more, but you can't make
you can't make the price of baking go back to
what it was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, yeah, I mean that is part of the problem
is that while inflation has cooled, as you know, it
just doesn't mean that a loaf of bread now cast
a dollar less than it did a year ago. And
the challenge for the Trump administration Jack has been pretty simple.
Came in with that, you know, really heavy emphasis on
price reduction. Then suddenly, you know, decided to terraffs were
(02:54):
the most important thing, and a lot of people are
scratching their heads saying, well, this is going to add
to the inflation numbers, which it only did mildly, you know,
and that is cooled off. But then the Iran wars
has ticked those back ups. So it is, you know,
it's kind of a race against the clock, Jack. I mean,
you know, five months till the till the November midterms,
and those could be heavily influenced by what people are
(03:15):
paying when they go to that gas pump.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, historically the other party wins in the midterms, So
let's just assume that happens Democrats take the House. We're
going to have impeachments, aren't we do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We want to start talking about the eye word already,
but you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think we're going to be in the midst of it,
and it's going to be the biggest story in America unfortunately. Uh,
you know, starting next January.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, it won't just be impeachments, Jack, it will be
all kinds of investigations, right, I mean, there'll be House
committees investigating everything including yes, you know, the Trump's administration
is an effect on the price of bread, and that's
that's a challenge. So, Uh, the question of course becomes
how how big that margin is going to be. I mean,
all the redistricting shenanigans that have gone on in the
(04:02):
last six to twelve months, as you know, are going
to impact that they're going to impact it. By the way,
for a number of election cycles to come, we could
see some pretty wild swings, particularly in control of the
House of Representatives, as a result of all the things.
We don't have time to go into today, but the
recent Scotis decision, the Virginia decision, these census is going
to the census is going to come and have new
(04:23):
districts redrawn, So we could see some pretty wild politics, Jack,
in the next couple of cycles.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Speaking of swings and wild politics, you are a California
based pundit as our show is based in California, and
I don't know if you've noticed the difference in San
Francisco over the last year or two since the new
mayor came in. I mean, it went from a bomb
every five feet in a lot of the nice shopping
districts of San Francisco too, you can't find a bomb
(04:52):
because of policy changes. People finally got fed up in
San Francisco. Is that happening in Los Angeles? Is the
Spencer Pratt guy running as a Republican going to be
the mayor of LA because people have had enough?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you know, that's an outstanding question, Jack. Okay, here's
what we know for sure. I mean you look at
people's you know, state moving in the wrong direction, city
moving in the wrong direction, nation moving in the wrong direction,
kind of poll numbers, and you you, you know, let
off with it excellent fashion at the top of the show, Jack,
you know, the electorate ain't happy and doesn't really matter
(05:25):
where you go. And that's true in LA and Mayor
Karen Bath, the incumbent, she has got a fight on
her hands because people are upset. I mean, of course
the fires in LA. Their view is she was, you know,
largely involved in some of that problem and hasn't really
addressed it very well. The homelessness issue in LA continues
to be very huge. I mean budget issues, the fire
(05:46):
department budget. I mean, so this is where Spencer Pratt
has gotten traction, and you know, it's remarkable to think
about that. People say, well, there's no way you could
get elected, and then of course they have to drop
names like oh, I don't know, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Donald
Trump and say, you know, weird things happen when people
had had enough.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I think the better comparison is Donald Trump, because
Pratt kind of has that breaking all the rules, I'm
going to do all kinds of crazy stuff and no
negative stories seemed to stick to him in the same
way that Trump seems to have that ability.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well that's true, but you know, yes, got to remember
Arnold Schwirtz. He was walking around with a broom in
his hand on the stage saying it's time to clean out.
In California, he had his own personal vactadilla's, you know,
and stuff that came out. People didn't care. They'd had
enough with the so called professional politicians and austed him.
So this again in California, is another one. He's top
two primaries, so they'll be the three main candidates. If
(06:40):
nobody gets fifty percent or more, which it looks very
likely is going to happen. Nobody's going to get that majority.
It's going to be a runoff in November, and we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hey, just because it's on my mind. Before we had
you on, we were talking Founding Father's stuff with our
friend Tim Sanderfer and his new book, and we're coming
up on the two hundred and fifteth anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence and all that sort of stuff. You
have any favorite founding books? Or TV shows or documentaries
or anything like that. As a guy who's been studying
government his whole life.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, it's heay, I love that. I love that John
Adams TV series. If you remember that, that was really good.
I mean, I think to me, Jack, you know, taking
stepping back from all the stuff we get involved in
on a week week basis politically stepping back I really
hope and I'm trusting. I just putting my trust. It's
like that this is gonna maybe not a full reset,
(07:32):
but people stepping back and saying, you know what, we
are darn lucky to live in the longest standing democracy
in human history, with all its words, all the bad
stuff right. Founding Father's got a lot of it right.
And I have told people many times over the years
that you know that, Hey, listen, I think they got
it right in putting a lot of faith in the
(07:52):
fact that people will eventually figure it out. We don't
want a king, we don't want a monarchy. We want
to govern ourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I call me an idealist, but I still think we
got a long way to go in a democracy that
so far, so far has survived two and a half centuries.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, Gary Dietrich, Let me punch a hole in your
optimism in just a moment. First, I need to First,
I need to tell people about trust and will, which
is just playing a good idea I personally, I get
off the top of my head. Think of three families
I know that were torn apart when mom or dad died,
and then who gets the house, who gets the money,
(08:31):
who gets the camper? Why do you get half when
I've been taken care of mom in the last years
of her life and you live in another state and
there was no trust or will, so they had to
fight that out in the courts, and then you know,
the state steps in and they make decisions you might
not like. It is a mess, and it rips families apart.
And you can avoid that for your kids or brothers
(08:53):
and sisters or whatever by going to Trust and Will.
Trust and Will. They've got a platform that makes it
easy to create your will or trust online. It's fast
and as little as thirty minutes. You can create a
will that lets you document your wishes, guardians, asset distribution,
healthcare planning, all that Trust and will, affordable estate plans,
priceless peace of mind. Go to Trust and Will dot
com slash armstrong and get twenty percent off. That's trustinwill
(09:16):
dot com slash armstrong. Get your twenty percent off trust
and will dot com slash armstrong. I don't know what
your experience is, but I still have school age kids
and then the public school they don't learn any of
this stuff. Man, they just don't teach this stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, I mean, you know my kids are now, they've
gone through the public school systemho Ones now in a
public university that. Oh, I don't know, Jack, you happen
to live very very close to so I you know,
there's been so much discussion about the direction of higher education.
One thing you do know for sure, Jack, And this
is really interesting, you know. I hear you guys talk
about this occasionally, and that is the plethora of a variety
(09:56):
of opportunities that people have. I mean, in the past,
you just assume you're going to go to a four
year public college or whatever. Maybe you get into Harvard,
maybe you don't. But now there's so many online courses,
so many other things. My son is remarkable in the
amount of knowledge that he has, Jack, that comes not
one bit from a university course. He just spends a
lot of time, online, sourcing, all kinds of stuff, and
(10:19):
I am sometimes astounded at the amount of economic and
political knowledge that he has. This simply came from time
he spent worthy time on his phone.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But it is troubling
to me. I mean, you can. I loved your little
rant about self governance being better than this and that
and all that. But man, if they're not teaching it
in schools, that is not going to land with the kids.
An anyhow, that's a different topic. When Trump leaves the scene.
(10:52):
I don't think we've talked to you about this. When
Trump leaves the scene, which god, we're only a year
and a half into his term. We we got a while.
But when Trump leaves the scene, what do you think
it's going to look like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, Jack, I'll say this may this, these questions may
come a lot sooner than later. They're going to come anyway, Okay,
I mean after the midterm election. You know this, Trump
is officially a lame duck, right, He already is.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Officially now, as as we all know, though a lot
of the rules of politics have not applied to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, well, people still said, well, he's going to run
for a third time. He's not going to run.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, No, I don't think that. I don't mean like that.
I just mean that. You know, historically you become a
lame duck, you have no power. You know, Trump might
be different.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, you're you're absolutely right. That's going to be the
main question Jack is going after the mid Trumps. The
day after these midterms, the presidential race in twenty eight starts.
I mean unofficially, semi officially, everybody's going to be out there.
Republicans yes, Rubio, yes, you know, Vance yes, maybe others,
destantus whatever, and then a massive amount, as you know,
(11:54):
of Democrats. So the question is going to be how
much pressure did will Trump try to put on the scale,
how much you know, thumb pressure does he put on
that scale for twenty eight and how much of it
is going to remain? How much do senate candidates, House candidates, yes,
presidential candidates, you know view that, and how much do
Democrats continue to run against him as their main campaign issue.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh that's a good angle, I had ner anybody bring
that up. There's not only the how much sway does
he still have over the Republican Party. We saw how
he you know he threatened those uh, the dudes in
Indiana and got his way. How much sway does he
have over the Republican Party, But how much sway does
he have with the Democrats? How long can they continue
(12:40):
to run on being against Trump? You're right, because maybe
that doesn't have legs anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, because here's my he is my biggest question, Jack.
You know, we've had past presidents that have gone out
on a campaign trail and been very effective witness an
Obama right that have campaigned for many cycles after their
president and had a lot of impact, and people that
have even said, like to bite a masician. Well, the
real power behind so you know, the person that if
you really want to get going, invite your campaign rally,
(13:06):
you got to get Barack answer on a shell there.
And I wonder if that's going to be Trump's legacy
that for cycles to come, He's going to stay very
visibly involved in be a real political power.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, biggest difference being Barack Obama was fifty when people
were saying that and Trump will be eighty three or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well there's that, but the Trump plane still got plenty
of gas in it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, quick question before we run out of time. Here
the worst presidential candidate for a major party in US history,
Kamala Harris? Is she going to be on the scene again?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, well I get that question, a lot of fact
I got out the CBS last night. The thing about
it is this nobody really knows. I mean, please do it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You're saying it's looking like Jack. She's probably in the race.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Probably all are her advisors.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That could make for very interesting politics running a third time.
Oh boy, I mean it's gonna get messy, especially related
to her fellow Californian Gavenussom.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Trump will be a lame duck. She's a lame o.
That's the way that works. Gary Datrich, CBS Television and
iHeartRadio political analysts, Thank you for your time. Gary.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of course Jack will talk you, sir.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh my god? Who is advising Kamala Harris? Has there
ever been anybody less self aware in human history than
Kamla Harris? Of the way is she's perceived by most people,
including in her own crowd. Wow, that is wild. All right,
we got more on the way, Stay here, Armstrong, Andy
The Governor of California, Gavin Newsom, handing out porn machines
to prisoners in the state of California, paid for by taxpayers,
as reported yesterday, and we brought that story to you
at the cost of two thousand dollars per tablet much
more than if you'd have gone straight to Best Buy anyway,
and that they get to use him to look at porn.
He pushed back on that hard yesterday. So well, if
(00:20):
the governor pushed back on that story hard, So we'll
have to update you on that a little bit later
in the program. Joining us right now to talk about
some politics of whatever pops in oremind, Gary Dietrich, who's
been joining the Armstrong and Getty Show for many, many years.
He's a CBS Television and iHeartRadio political analyst.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
How are you today, Gary, Hey, Jack, I'm doing great,
my friend. Yeah, Well, no lack of things in the
political world these days.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Eh God, I'd say we're having the discussion yesterday Joe
and I on how just talking about like the national
mood where you see all these wrong direction numbers for
the country and the economy and all that sort of stuff.
It might just come down to when things are expensive,
they want somebody different. I mean, you know, politically, you
(01:04):
went to Harvard and political analysts and the political scientists
and all the complicated this and mass who's got the
best ads and who's got the most money in the
bank for buying ads, and who's got the endorsements and
all these complicated things we talk about. It might just
come down to if things are too expensive, they vote
for a different person.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You know, Jack here amazingly, Stuard, given the fact that
you're back in ninety two four words to find that
presidential campaign. As you'll now remember, it's the economy stupid
right right right, and that is that has continued to
ring so true that it's now practically, you know, taped
above every campaign headquarters door. I mean, and that's where
(01:43):
right now the president and the GOP find themselves in
a real conundrum, you know, over this over the inflation,
recent inflation numbers again going up a little bit. Of course,
we know, you know, the Iran war gas prices that
lead to all kinds of other as you know, inflationary pressures.
And that's the challenge right now on a national perspective,
because people are feeling it. They were already feeling it
(02:05):
as you know, going into twenty four that was supposed
to be relieved in twenty five by the Trump administration.
Numbers were kicking down, but as they go back up,
people ain't happy.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
Yeah, and you know they Trump brought some of this
on himself by insinuating that he could make prices go down,
which is not the way inflation works. You could stop
the prices for going up more, but you can't make
you can't make the price of baking go back to
what it was in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, yeah, I mean that is part of the problem
is that while inflation has cooled, as you know, it
just doesn't mean that a loaf of bread now cast
a dollar less than it did a year ago. And
the challenge for the Trump administration Jack has been pretty simple.
Came in with that, you know, really heavy emphasis on
price reduction. Then suddenly, you know, decided to terraffs were
(02:54):
the most important thing, and a lot of people are
scratching their heads saying, well, this is going to add
to the inflation numbers, which it only did mildly, you know,
and that is cooled off. But then the Iran wars
has ticked those back ups. So it is, you know,
it's kind of a race against the clock, Jack. I mean,
you know, five months till the till the November midterms,
and those could be heavily influenced by what people are
(03:15):
paying when they go to that gas pump.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Well, historically the other party wins in the midterms, So
let's just assume that happens Democrats take the House. We're
going to have impeachments, aren't we do.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
We want to start talking about the eye word already,
but you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
I think we're going to be in the midst of it,
and it's going to be the biggest story in America unfortunately. Uh,
you know, starting next January.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, it won't just be impeachments, Jack, it will be
all kinds of investigations, right, I mean, there'll be House
committees investigating everything including yes, you know, the Trump's administration
is an effect on the price of bread, and that's
that's a challenge. So, Uh, the question of course becomes
how how big that margin is going to be. I mean,
all the redistricting shenanigans that have gone on in the
(04:02):
last six to twelve months, as you know, are going
to impact that they're going to impact it. By the way,
for a number of election cycles to come, we could
see some pretty wild swings, particularly in control of the
House of Representatives, as a result of all the things.
We don't have time to go into today, but the
recent Scotis decision, the Virginia decision, these census is going
to the census is going to come and have new
(04:23):
districts redrawn, So we could see some pretty wild politics, Jack,
in the next couple of cycles.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Speaking of swings and wild politics, you are a California
based pundit as our show is based in California, and
I don't know if you've noticed the difference in San
Francisco over the last year or two since the new
mayor came in. I mean, it went from a bomb
every five feet in a lot of the nice shopping
districts of San Francisco too, you can't find a bomb
(04:52):
because of policy changes. People finally got fed up in
San Francisco. Is that happening in Los Angeles? Is the
Spencer Pratt guy running as a Republican going to be
the mayor of LA because people have had enough?
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, you know, that's an outstanding question, Jack. Okay, here's
what we know for sure. I mean you look at
people's you know, state moving in the wrong direction, city
moving in the wrong direction, nation moving in the wrong direction,
kind of poll numbers, and you you, you know, let
off with it excellent fashion at the top of the show, Jack,
you know, the electorate ain't happy and doesn't really matter
(05:25):
where you go. And that's true in LA and Mayor
Karen Bath, the incumbent, she has got a fight on
her hands because people are upset. I mean, of course
the fires in LA. Their view is she was, you know,
largely involved in some of that problem and hasn't really
addressed it very well. The homelessness issue in LA continues
to be very huge. I mean budget issues, the fire
(05:46):
department budget. I mean, so this is where Spencer Pratt
has gotten traction, and you know, it's remarkable to think
about that. People say, well, there's no way you could
get elected, and then of course they have to drop
names like oh, I don't know, Arnold Schwarzenegger and Donald
Trump and say, you know, weird things happen when people
had had enough.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, I think the better comparison is Donald Trump, because
Pratt kind of has that breaking all the rules, I'm
going to do all kinds of crazy stuff and no
negative stories seemed to stick to him in the same
way that Trump seems to have that ability.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Well that's true, but you know, yes, got to remember
Arnold Schwirtz. He was walking around with a broom in
his hand on the stage saying it's time to clean out.
In California, he had his own personal vactadilla's, you know,
and stuff that came out. People didn't care. They'd had
enough with the so called professional politicians and austed him.
So this again in California, is another one. He's top
two primaries, so they'll be the three main candidates. If
(06:40):
nobody gets fifty percent or more, which it looks very
likely is going to happen. Nobody's going to get that majority.
It's going to be a runoff in November, and we'll
see what happens.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Hey, just because it's on my mind. Before we had
you on, we were talking Founding Father's stuff with our
friend Tim Sanderfer and his new book, and we're coming
up on the two hundred and fifteth anniversary of the
Declaration of Independence and all that sort of stuff. You
have any favorite founding books? Or TV shows or documentaries
or anything like that. As a guy who's been studying
government his whole life.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Well, it's heay, I love that. I love that John
Adams TV series. If you remember that, that was really good.
I mean, I think to me, Jack, you know, taking
stepping back from all the stuff we get involved in
on a week week basis politically stepping back I really
hope and I'm trusting. I just putting my trust. It's
like that this is gonna maybe not a full reset,
(07:32):
but people stepping back and saying, you know what, we
are darn lucky to live in the longest standing democracy
in human history, with all its words, all the bad
stuff right. Founding Father's got a lot of it right.
And I have told people many times over the years
that you know that, Hey, listen, I think they got
it right in putting a lot of faith in the
(07:52):
fact that people will eventually figure it out. We don't
want a king, we don't want a monarchy. We want
to govern ourselves.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I call me an idealist, but I still think we
got a long way to go in a democracy that
so far, so far has survived two and a half centuries.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Well, Gary Dietrich, Let me punch a hole in your
optimism in just a moment. First, I need to First,
I need to tell people about trust and will, which
is just playing a good idea I personally, I get
off the top of my head. Think of three families
I know that were torn apart when mom or dad died,
and then who gets the house, who gets the money,
(08:31):
who gets the camper? Why do you get half when
I've been taken care of mom in the last years
of her life and you live in another state and
there was no trust or will, so they had to
fight that out in the courts, and then you know,
the state steps in and they make decisions you might
not like. It is a mess, and it rips families apart.
And you can avoid that for your kids or brothers
(08:53):
and sisters or whatever by going to Trust and Will.
Trust and Will. They've got a platform that makes it
easy to create your will or trust online. It's fast
and as little as thirty minutes. You can create a
will that lets you document your wishes, guardians, asset distribution,
healthcare planning, all that Trust and will, affordable estate plans,
priceless peace of mind. Go to Trust and Will dot
com slash armstrong and get twenty percent off. That's trustinwill
(09:16):
dot com slash armstrong. Get your twenty percent off trust
and will dot com slash armstrong. I don't know what
your experience is, but I still have school age kids
and then the public school they don't learn any of
this stuff. Man, they just don't teach this stuff at all.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, I mean, you know my kids are now, they've
gone through the public school systemho Ones now in a
public university that. Oh, I don't know, Jack, you happen
to live very very close to so I you know,
there's been so much discussion about the direction of higher education.
One thing you do know for sure, Jack, And this
is really interesting, you know. I hear you guys talk
about this occasionally, and that is the plethora of a variety
(09:56):
of opportunities that people have. I mean, in the past,
you just assume you're going to go to a four
year public college or whatever. Maybe you get into Harvard,
maybe you don't. But now there's so many online courses,
so many other things. My son is remarkable in the
amount of knowledge that he has, Jack, that comes not
one bit from a university course. He just spends a
lot of time, online, sourcing, all kinds of stuff, and
(10:19):
I am sometimes astounded at the amount of economic and
political knowledge that he has. This simply came from time
he spent worthy time on his phone.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. But it is troubling
to me. I mean, you can. I loved your little
rant about self governance being better than this and that
and all that. But man, if they're not teaching it
in schools, that is not going to land with the kids.
An anyhow, that's a different topic. When Trump leaves the scene.
(10:52):
I don't think we've talked to you about this. When
Trump leaves the scene, which god, we're only a year
and a half into his term. We we got a while.
But when Trump leaves the scene, what do you think
it's going to look like?
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Well, Jack, I'll say this may this, these questions may
come a lot sooner than later. They're going to come anyway, Okay,
I mean after the midterm election. You know this, Trump
is officially a lame duck, right, He already is.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Officially now, as as we all know, though a lot
of the rules of politics have not applied to Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, well, people still said, well, he's going to run
for a third time. He's not going to run.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
No, No, I don't think that. I don't mean like that.
I just mean that. You know, historically you become a
lame duck, you have no power. You know, Trump might
be different.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
No, you're you're absolutely right. That's going to be the
main question Jack is going after the mid Trumps. The
day after these midterms, the presidential race in twenty eight starts.
I mean unofficially, semi officially, everybody's going to be out there.
Republicans yes, Rubio, yes, you know, Vance yes, maybe others,
destantus whatever, and then a massive amount, as you know,
(11:54):
of Democrats. So the question is going to be how
much pressure did will Trump try to put on the scale,
how much you know, thumb pressure does he put on
that scale for twenty eight and how much of it
is going to remain? How much do senate candidates, House candidates, yes,
presidential candidates, you know view that, and how much do
Democrats continue to run against him as their main campaign issue.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Oh that's a good angle, I had ner anybody bring
that up. There's not only the how much sway does
he still have over the Republican Party. We saw how
he you know he threatened those uh, the dudes in
Indiana and got his way. How much sway does he
have over the Republican Party, But how much sway does
he have with the Democrats? How long can they continue
(12:40):
to run on being against Trump? You're right, because maybe
that doesn't have legs anymore.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
Yeah, because here's my he is my biggest question, Jack.
You know, we've had past presidents that have gone out
on a campaign trail and been very effective witness an
Obama right that have campaigned for many cycles after their
president and had a lot of impact, and people that
have even said, like to bite a masician. Well, the
real power behind so you know, the person that if
you really want to get going, invite your campaign rally,
(13:06):
you got to get Barack answer on a shell there.
And I wonder if that's going to be Trump's legacy
that for cycles to come, He's going to stay very
visibly involved in be a real political power.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, biggest difference being Barack Obama was fifty when people
were saying that and Trump will be eighty three or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well there's that, but the Trump plane still got plenty
of gas in it.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
Well, quick question before we run out of time. Here
the worst presidential candidate for a major party in US history,
Kamala Harris? Is she going to be on the scene again?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Okay, well I get that question, a lot of fact
I got out the CBS last night. The thing about
it is this nobody really knows. I mean, please do it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Do it.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You're saying it's looking like Jack. She's probably in the race.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Probably all are her advisors.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
That could make for very interesting politics running a third time.
Oh boy, I mean it's gonna get messy, especially related
to her fellow Californian Gavenussom.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Trump will be a lame duck. She's a lame o.
That's the way that works. Gary Datrich, CBS Television and
iHeartRadio political analysts, Thank you for your time. Gary.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of course Jack will talk you, sir.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Oh my god? Who is advising Kamala Harris? Has there
ever been anybody less self aware in human history than
Kamla Harris? Of the way is she's perceived by most people,
including in her own crowd. Wow, that is wild. All right,
we got more on the way, Stay here, Armstrong, Andy
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