March 26, 2026 • 12 mins
California gubernatorial candidate Steve Hilton joins Armstrong & Getty to discuss his campaign--and the controversy over USC's decision to cancel the debate.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And the state could lose.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Out of my shot.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I wanted to tell you that that's actually correct. It's
not that it's electric vehicles. It's that and you don't
need to commit as any Paris Climer.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Quarr, Okay, it does. Okay, you also were in my
shot before that. Stay out of my shot. She's a peach.
She's a leading Democrat. Jack.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So that's Katie Porter, and there's too many leading Democrats.
There's Katie get out of my having shot Porter who's
running for governor as a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
There's Eric I.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Sleep with Chinese spies, Swallwell and other Democrats. And there's
so many Democrats that they are splitting the vote. And
a new poll came out yesterday that with all the
Democratic votes split, two Republicans are in the lead. And
the way we do primaries in California is the top
two vote getters in the primary run against each other.
So she might have two Republicans running against each other
for governor, and the top guy, Steve Hilt We're about
(00:56):
to talk to him a.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The other interesting thing that happened yesterday was there was
a debate scheduled, but usc known for their racism, wouldn't
allow any people of color on the stage. Well, they
had a threshold of polling that you had to meet
to get on the stage, so you don't end up with,
you know, thirty people debating and it gets all watered
down and you don't learn anything from candidates that actually
(01:20):
have a chance to win. But uh, Javier for Bessera,
for instance, former attorney general, complained that he was left
out because usc as racist as you would expect.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's hilarious. You cannot make this stuff up.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
From advisor to British prime ministers to Fox News host,
patriotic American Steve Hilton joins us he's running for governor
of Caln, UNICORNEA.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Steve, how you feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm feeling good, but frustrated I should be talking to
you this morning on the back of another debate triumph
because most of the debates I've done, i'd say all
of them, I have one hands down. That's not just
me talking. The first TV debate they did a state
white Pole. It was me against six Democrats. I won
by sixty six percent. The nearest Democrat got seventeen percent,
(02:06):
most of them in single digits. Why, because it's so obvious.
We need change in this state and we can't go
on like this. And I think they're panicking because you've
got me leading these polls. And there's another one that
came out yesterday. I was on twenty percent, well on fifteen,
the other Republican on fourteen. So look whichever pole you
look at right now, we've got momentum and we're leading,
and that's what they can't stand. And so you know,
(02:26):
they canceled the debate. And of course, on the one hand,
you can look at the cancelation of the debate yet
another example of you know, they can't do anything right
these Democrats. They can't even organize a debate. They can't
build a high speed rail line with hundreds of billions
of dollars, even the butterfly bridge to nowhere, or the
people mover in lax or solve homelesses, or do anything.
Totally clueless and incompetent, can't even do a debate. That's
(02:49):
the kind of lighthearted, funny way of talking about it.
But actually there's a serious point, and it's not even
the political correctness where you have these ridiculous lpds as
I call them, the low poll democrats winning l lpds,
Are we going to make that a thing? So the
lpds all jumping up and down, now it's race racism. No,
(03:10):
it's because it's not because you're your race. It's because
you're not doing well enough in the race. That's why
you weren't on the debate. But the real point I
want to make is, do you know what actually happened
that caused this debate to be counseled the legislature. The
leaders of the Democrats in the state Legislature wrote a
letter to USC on headed paper with all their ridiculous
(03:31):
little pressure groups and factions, the LGBT Caucus and the
Native American Caucus, and the Women's Caucus and the Latino
and all the usual suspects. Right. But the letter was
signed by Robert Reebus, who is the leader of the
State Assembly, and Monique le Mond, who's the Democrat leader
in the State Senate, telling USC they'd better put these
(03:53):
lpds in the debate or they'll be trouble. Now. That
is bullying and intimidation from the state Legislature to USC.
That's why the debate was canceled. They wrote that letter
on Monday. USC panicked, They said, wow, now we've not
just the candidates whining we got the state legislature on
our back. That's a whole different thing. So then they
(04:14):
go to ABC, who were the media partly going to
broadcast the debate, and say, okay, we want to get
these people back in. ABC said no, get lost, and
then they counseled the debate. But it actually shows you
the arrogance and corruption that you get after sixteen years
of one party rule. It was the legislature that counseled
this debate. It is totally outrageous.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know, I don't know why, but for the first time,
I'm getting the you could win feeling. It reminds me
because we were doing this job back when Arnold first
started running, and we had him on the show several times,
and I remember when he was, you know, doing his
wrap on our radio show and just thinking, you know,
there's something here, there's some momentum here. It's a unique
time when even the Democratic voters of the state are
(04:59):
so fed up with the way things are and I'm
feeling I'm feeling your vibe here, man.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I love that to me too, honestly, And I'm
not just you know, I'm the opposite of complacent. I'm
working harder every week. But we do these town halls
up and down the state, and the numbers are growing.
You know, it used to be, you know, forty fifty
people would come. Now then it was one hundred. Now
we're getting two hundred, sometimes three hundred people coming along.
And this is open to everyone. They're not it's not
(05:26):
Republican events. This is just show up in a place,
put the word out on social media, and people come along.
And you're getting people who ask questions. It's totally open.
It's not me making some boring speech. It's like, come
and ask what's on your mind. And a lot of
the time, yes, it's true. I don't want to be
you know, I do want to be accurate. I would say
most of the people are Republicans, but there's a lot
of Democrats coming, you know. Just last you know, the
(05:48):
other last one we did, I voted for Kamala Harris.
I think we need to change. What are you going
to do about whatever it is? So there's something happening there.
The fundraising is going really well. And then the other
thing I just want to point out is a couple
of things we got going for us this year that
make me really confident we could do it at number
one in the midterm election. It's all about turnout, getting
(06:08):
the party that does the best job getting its voters
out does best. We've got some really important weapons for
turnout this year, which is on the ballot in November.
We're going to have voter ID which Republicans particularly are
enthusiastic about, and save Prop thirteen to keep Tact, to
restore the protections of Prop thirteen to all these endless
(06:28):
tax increases they're bringing in, so Republicans will go out
and vote for that more than Democrats. The second big
thing these utterly useless Democrat candidates. I mean, come on,
like you were just talking about Porter Swallower, Tom Steyert.
These people are such a joke. And then the other
factor that's knew this year different to previous races is
(06:50):
just the growing volume both from here within our state
and nationally pointing out and revealing the extent of the
broad and the corruption and the abuse of our money.
You've got Nick Shirley here doing it. You've got James O'Keeffe.
I sat down with James O'Keeffe in la last weekend.
(07:11):
He took the stuff he's been putting out on the
paying for signatures and voter registration. You've got the Manhattan Institute,
Chris Ruffo just set up a new bureau here to
investigate corruption in California. You've got the FEDS JD Vance,
the fraud hunting. You've got Billes Sale, my friend Bill
as Sale, who's the US attorney doing incredible job prosecuting fraud.
(07:31):
So there's volume on California, and it's just going to
get louder and louder because everyone is sick of it.
Dr Oz coming in and CBS News the hospice fraud.
I mean, there's so every week there's more and more
exposure of exactly how badly they've mismanaged this state. And
(07:51):
I think people are furious about it, and they're going
to kick this party out.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
In November, I was pleasantly surprised to see even CBS
News was on the ridiculous hospice fraud story, which shows
at least growing awareness and enthusiasm is the wrong word,
but the indignation about all of the fraud and waste
of abuse that you get with one party government, which
is a perfect lead. What was going to be my
(08:15):
next question I'm looking at the same poll that had
you dominating mister Fang Fang in the sweet cupcake that
is Katie Porter and lunatic leftist tech guy Tom Steyer Steyer.
But it had right direction, wrong direction, right track, wrong track.
Right track was still thirty three percent of people. What'll
(08:35):
it take a junkie to move into your house? And
like you're an eight on your carpet? You thirty three percent,
but wrong track was fifty two. I think your main
tasks and tell me if I'm wrong, is going to
wake people out of their sleepy apathy and help them
understand there is a better state that could be.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
One. And here's how I see this going. Obviously, I'm
planning to be in the top two. My expectation is
that it will be another Democrat. And I think, really,
it looks like it's going to be swolwell.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Really freaking I know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well. I mean, like like I always say, like, well,
look at the look at the candidates, Like the President
would say, they're not sending their best. They looked at
these people or maybe they are their best. Who knows
how bad it's got, but look at them. I mean,
I don't know which is the worst. But it just
feels like Swollwell, it feels as if the machine is
moving behind him. Right, he got that big endorsement from
(09:40):
the SEIU. You got, you know, little signs like Adam
shiff who is very close to Pelosi endorsing him, and
a couple of other members of Congress. So I and
they so, I think that they want a puppet that
they control. And obviously Tom Stys a billionaire's own money,
so they can't control him. There are reports that are
long long standing report that they can't stand Pelosi, can't
(10:02):
stand Katie Porter, and so they don't want her. And
so who else have they got? I mean, they tried
all these other people. They tried to get Padia to run.
They tried, they think maybe Kamala Harris would run. None
of these people wanted to do it for various reasons.
So they're stuck with Swollwell. I think that's where this
is heading.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I feel like Swallow's got Gray Davis vibes, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Such a joke. He's not a serious person. I mean,
that's the fundable point. Anyway. My point was going to be,
once we're in a situation post June where it's just
a very clear choice this or that. Right, do you
want more of the same, another four years or eight
years of this one party rule or change? I think
that will really focus Right now, you know, you got
(10:46):
all these candidates and it's all a bit of a
muddle and people aren't really paying attention. But I think
that once the primary is out of the way, it's
a whole different world. And then I think, well, that's
when it really we can really turn up the volume on.
Come on, I mean, is there anyone that really believes
what this state needs is another four years of Democrat
(11:06):
one party rule? I find an argument that works even
with Democrats and independents who are not never going to
call themselves republican, But I would say, look, come on,
it's not healthy to have sixteen years of one party rule.
Just a bit of balance in the system is a
good idea. The Democrats are still probably controlled the state legislature,
they'll still probably run all the big cities in the counties.
(11:27):
Having a bit of balance in the mix is a
good idea, and you get people nodding along to that.
So I just feel really confident that if we get
a shot at putting that clear choice out there. That's
why I actually go back to that first TV debate,
because it really was clear it was me against six
other Democrats. I didn't do anything amazing. I just told
the truth about how bad everything is. You know, we've
(11:48):
had We've got the highest taxes in the country for
the worst results, highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest
cost of living fiftieth out of fifty according to US
News and World Report. For opportunity fiftieth out of fifty,
walle Hub says for affordability Chief Executive magazine, California ranked
fiftieth out of fifty for business climate. I mean, you know,
(12:08):
we've had the highest gas tax in the country, fiftieth
out of fifty. For the quality of our roads, I mean,
it's insane how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It is insane.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Steve Hilton, Steve, we're up against a break. Sorry to interrupt,
but keep fighting a good fight. We will stay in touch.
Steve Hilton always great to talk and I mean this sincerely,
and if anybody can contradict it, feel free. The Republican
primary is running for who's got the best ideas.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The Democratic primary.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Is who can be the most slavish, you know, servant
of the public employee unions.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's the question. Armstrong
And the state could lose.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Out of my shot.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
I wanted to tell you that that's actually correct. It's
not that it's electric vehicles. It's that and you don't
need to commit as any Paris Climer.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Quarr, Okay, it does. Okay, you also were in my
shot before that. Stay out of my shot. She's a peach.
She's a leading Democrat. Jack.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
So that's Katie Porter, and there's too many leading Democrats.
There's Katie get out of my having shot Porter who's
running for governor as a Democrat.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
There's Eric I.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Sleep with Chinese spies, Swallwell and other Democrats. And there's
so many Democrats that they are splitting the vote. And
a new poll came out yesterday that with all the
Democratic votes split, two Republicans are in the lead. And
the way we do primaries in California is the top
two vote getters in the primary run against each other.
So she might have two Republicans running against each other
for governor, and the top guy, Steve Hilt We're about
(00:56):
to talk to him a.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Couple of minutes.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
The other interesting thing that happened yesterday was there was
a debate scheduled, but usc known for their racism, wouldn't
allow any people of color on the stage. Well, they
had a threshold of polling that you had to meet
to get on the stage, so you don't end up with,
you know, thirty people debating and it gets all watered
down and you don't learn anything from candidates that actually
(01:20):
have a chance to win. But uh, Javier for Bessera,
for instance, former attorney general, complained that he was left
out because usc as racist as you would expect.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
That's hilarious. You cannot make this stuff up.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
From advisor to British prime ministers to Fox News host,
patriotic American Steve Hilton joins us he's running for governor
of Caln, UNICORNEA.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Steve, how you feeling.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
I'm feeling good, but frustrated I should be talking to
you this morning on the back of another debate triumph
because most of the debates I've done, i'd say all
of them, I have one hands down. That's not just
me talking. The first TV debate they did a state
white Pole. It was me against six Democrats. I won
by sixty six percent. The nearest Democrat got seventeen percent,
(02:06):
most of them in single digits. Why, because it's so obvious.
We need change in this state and we can't go
on like this. And I think they're panicking because you've
got me leading these polls. And there's another one that
came out yesterday. I was on twenty percent, well on fifteen,
the other Republican on fourteen. So look whichever pole you
look at right now, we've got momentum and we're leading,
and that's what they can't stand. And so you know,
(02:26):
they canceled the debate. And of course, on the one hand,
you can look at the cancelation of the debate yet
another example of you know, they can't do anything right
these Democrats. They can't even organize a debate. They can't
build a high speed rail line with hundreds of billions
of dollars, even the butterfly bridge to nowhere, or the
people mover in lax or solve homelesses, or do anything.
Totally clueless and incompetent, can't even do a debate. That's
(02:49):
the kind of lighthearted, funny way of talking about it.
But actually there's a serious point, and it's not even
the political correctness where you have these ridiculous lpds as
I call them, the low poll democrats winning l lpds,
Are we going to make that a thing? So the
lpds all jumping up and down, now it's race racism. No,
(03:10):
it's because it's not because you're your race. It's because
you're not doing well enough in the race. That's why
you weren't on the debate. But the real point I
want to make is, do you know what actually happened
that caused this debate to be counseled the legislature. The
leaders of the Democrats in the state Legislature wrote a
letter to USC on headed paper with all their ridiculous
(03:31):
little pressure groups and factions, the LGBT Caucus and the
Native American Caucus, and the Women's Caucus and the Latino
and all the usual suspects. Right. But the letter was
signed by Robert Reebus, who is the leader of the
State Assembly, and Monique le Mond, who's the Democrat leader
in the State Senate, telling USC they'd better put these
(03:53):
lpds in the debate or they'll be trouble. Now. That
is bullying and intimidation from the state Legislature to USC.
That's why the debate was canceled. They wrote that letter
on Monday. USC panicked, They said, wow, now we've not
just the candidates whining we got the state legislature on
our back. That's a whole different thing. So then they
(04:14):
go to ABC, who were the media partly going to
broadcast the debate, and say, okay, we want to get
these people back in. ABC said no, get lost, and
then they counseled the debate. But it actually shows you
the arrogance and corruption that you get after sixteen years
of one party rule. It was the legislature that counseled
this debate. It is totally outrageous.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
You know, I don't know why, but for the first time,
I'm getting the you could win feeling. It reminds me
because we were doing this job back when Arnold first
started running, and we had him on the show several times,
and I remember when he was, you know, doing his
wrap on our radio show and just thinking, you know,
there's something here, there's some momentum here. It's a unique
time when even the Democratic voters of the state are
(04:59):
so fed up with the way things are and I'm
feeling I'm feeling your vibe here, man.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Yeah, I love that to me too, honestly, And I'm
not just you know, I'm the opposite of complacent. I'm
working harder every week. But we do these town halls
up and down the state, and the numbers are growing.
You know, it used to be, you know, forty fifty
people would come. Now then it was one hundred. Now
we're getting two hundred, sometimes three hundred people coming along.
And this is open to everyone. They're not it's not
(05:26):
Republican events. This is just show up in a place,
put the word out on social media, and people come along.
And you're getting people who ask questions. It's totally open.
It's not me making some boring speech. It's like, come
and ask what's on your mind. And a lot of
the time, yes, it's true. I don't want to be
you know, I do want to be accurate. I would say
most of the people are Republicans, but there's a lot
of Democrats coming, you know. Just last you know, the
(05:48):
other last one we did, I voted for Kamala Harris.
I think we need to change. What are you going
to do about whatever it is? So there's something happening there.
The fundraising is going really well. And then the other
thing I just want to point out is a couple
of things we got going for us this year that
make me really confident we could do it at number
one in the midterm election. It's all about turnout, getting
(06:08):
the party that does the best job getting its voters
out does best. We've got some really important weapons for
turnout this year, which is on the ballot in November.
We're going to have voter ID which Republicans particularly are
enthusiastic about, and save Prop thirteen to keep Tact, to
restore the protections of Prop thirteen to all these endless
(06:28):
tax increases they're bringing in, so Republicans will go out
and vote for that more than Democrats. The second big
thing these utterly useless Democrat candidates. I mean, come on,
like you were just talking about Porter Swallower, Tom Steyert.
These people are such a joke. And then the other
factor that's knew this year different to previous races is
(06:50):
just the growing volume both from here within our state
and nationally pointing out and revealing the extent of the
broad and the corruption and the abuse of our money.
You've got Nick Shirley here doing it. You've got James O'Keeffe.
I sat down with James O'Keeffe in la last weekend.
(07:11):
He took the stuff he's been putting out on the
paying for signatures and voter registration. You've got the Manhattan Institute,
Chris Ruffo just set up a new bureau here to
investigate corruption in California. You've got the FEDS JD Vance,
the fraud hunting. You've got Billes Sale, my friend Bill
as Sale, who's the US attorney doing incredible job prosecuting fraud.
(07:31):
So there's volume on California, and it's just going to
get louder and louder because everyone is sick of it.
Dr Oz coming in and CBS News the hospice fraud.
I mean, there's so every week there's more and more
exposure of exactly how badly they've mismanaged this state. And
(07:51):
I think people are furious about it, and they're going
to kick this party out.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
In November, I was pleasantly surprised to see even CBS
News was on the ridiculous hospice fraud story, which shows
at least growing awareness and enthusiasm is the wrong word,
but the indignation about all of the fraud and waste
of abuse that you get with one party government, which
is a perfect lead. What was going to be my
(08:15):
next question I'm looking at the same poll that had
you dominating mister Fang Fang in the sweet cupcake that
is Katie Porter and lunatic leftist tech guy Tom Steyer Steyer.
But it had right direction, wrong direction, right track, wrong track.
Right track was still thirty three percent of people. What'll
(08:35):
it take a junkie to move into your house? And
like you're an eight on your carpet? You thirty three percent,
but wrong track was fifty two. I think your main
tasks and tell me if I'm wrong, is going to
wake people out of their sleepy apathy and help them
understand there is a better state that could be.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
One. And here's how I see this going. Obviously, I'm
planning to be in the top two. My expectation is
that it will be another Democrat. And I think, really,
it looks like it's going to be swolwell.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Really freaking I know.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Well. I mean, like like I always say, like, well,
look at the look at the candidates, Like the President
would say, they're not sending their best. They looked at
these people or maybe they are their best. Who knows
how bad it's got, but look at them. I mean,
I don't know which is the worst. But it just
feels like Swollwell, it feels as if the machine is
moving behind him. Right, he got that big endorsement from
(09:40):
the SEIU. You got, you know, little signs like Adam
shiff who is very close to Pelosi endorsing him, and
a couple of other members of Congress. So I and
they so, I think that they want a puppet that
they control. And obviously Tom Stys a billionaire's own money,
so they can't control him. There are reports that are
long long standing report that they can't stand Pelosi, can't
(10:02):
stand Katie Porter, and so they don't want her. And
so who else have they got? I mean, they tried
all these other people. They tried to get Padia to run.
They tried, they think maybe Kamala Harris would run. None
of these people wanted to do it for various reasons.
So they're stuck with Swollwell. I think that's where this
is heading.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
I feel like Swallow's got Gray Davis vibes, but it's just.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Such a joke. He's not a serious person. I mean,
that's the fundable point. Anyway. My point was going to be,
once we're in a situation post June where it's just
a very clear choice this or that. Right, do you
want more of the same, another four years or eight
years of this one party rule or change? I think
that will really focus Right now, you know, you got
(10:46):
all these candidates and it's all a bit of a
muddle and people aren't really paying attention. But I think
that once the primary is out of the way, it's
a whole different world. And then I think, well, that's
when it really we can really turn up the volume on.
Come on, I mean, is there anyone that really believes
what this state needs is another four years of Democrat
(11:06):
one party rule? I find an argument that works even
with Democrats and independents who are not never going to
call themselves republican, But I would say, look, come on,
it's not healthy to have sixteen years of one party rule.
Just a bit of balance in the system is a
good idea. The Democrats are still probably controlled the state legislature,
they'll still probably run all the big cities in the counties.
(11:27):
Having a bit of balance in the mix is a
good idea, and you get people nodding along to that.
So I just feel really confident that if we get
a shot at putting that clear choice out there. That's
why I actually go back to that first TV debate,
because it really was clear it was me against six
other Democrats. I didn't do anything amazing. I just told
the truth about how bad everything is. You know, we've
(11:48):
had We've got the highest taxes in the country for
the worst results, highest poverty rate, highest unemployment rate, highest
cost of living fiftieth out of fifty according to US
News and World Report. For opportunity fiftieth out of fifty,
walle Hub says for affordability Chief Executive magazine, California ranked
fiftieth out of fifty for business climate. I mean, you know,
(12:08):
we've had the highest gas tax in the country, fiftieth
out of fifty. For the quality of our roads, I mean,
it's insane how bad it is.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
It is insane.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Steve Hilton, Steve, we're up against a break. Sorry to interrupt,
but keep fighting a good fight. We will stay in touch.
Steve Hilton always great to talk and I mean this sincerely,
and if anybody can contradict it, feel free. The Republican
primary is running for who's got the best ideas.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
The Democratic primary.
Speaker 4 (12:36):
Is who can be the most slavish, you know, servant
of the public employee unions.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
That's the question. Armstrong
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.