September 9, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- NFL, midterm convention, a good hat & South Park
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- AI will kill us all
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
From studio c c senor it's a dimly lit room
deep within the bowels of the armstrong and getty communications
compound and love these short weeks it's already the middle
of the week uh today we're toiling under the title
of the show the economy one star cannot recommend or
if you prefer it's a midterm party who's in Yeah,
(00:55):
I want you to rank these three things that are
happening today in terms of your interest.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You got the midterm convention. Oh, that's a strong start.
Which I keep hearing... A tongue dipped in sarcasm. Oh,
you detected it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Which I keep hearing on CNN, MSNBC, please. That's not
even a thing, all right, midterm conventions? You mark my words.
Four years from now, Democrats are going to have one.
Garen's freaking teed. So pretend it's not a thing. You're
going to decide it's a thing in four years.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Midterm conventions. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
NFL season kicking off. Super Bowl rematch, by the way.
And Apple announcement day. New CEO. See his act and
the first foldable phone.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Those are your three events.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Which, as an Apple stockholder, I'm excited that maybe the
phone will wow people and they'll run out and buy it.
Am I allowed to say that, or do I have
to fill out a bunch of paperwork? You've got to
fill out the paperwork now. Clearly, you're selling commercials on
the air without disclosure. I am willing to testify. I
just disclosed it. Well, not officially, though.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That was an inferred verbal disclosure.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Here's something you don't know about the NFL season kicking off, though,
that I didn't know until I heard it announced. So, yeah,
a rematch of the Super Bowl tonight on Wednesday night.
Starting off the season on Wednesday night, there's a push, apparently,
to add Wednesday night games.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's not going to happen this season, but in the
near future.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So they're going to try to make that a regular thing.
The players and coaches got to hate that. They already
hate the Thursday games. There's already been complaints about that
with injuries and short weeks or long weeks or whatever. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's a different topic.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Then tomorrow night, you've got your 49ers Seahawks, also a
very important game, in Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Crikey. International game.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
There are nine international games this year, and the goal
is to, within two seasons, have every team play one
international game per year at least. So there'll be 16
or 17 international games. This year, there's the one in Melbourne,
then Rio de Janeiro, London, London, London in October. Paris, Steelers, Saints. Madrid, Spain. Bengals,
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Falcons way out in November. Munich, Germany for Patriots, Lions,
and Vikings, 49ers. 49ers have to play twice overseas. Vikings,
49ers in Mexico City. Yeah, the Mexico City's not as
big a deal, but it's, you know, long enough playing, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think they're doing a bit of a golden goose
thing here. They're taking the golden goose. They got the
best TV show, biggest money-making thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like last year, 98 of the top 100 shows for
NFL games or something. I mean, it just trounces everything else.
But this is trying to spread it because it really,
I think, is a fan. Like, I hated the Chiefs
playing in Rio de Janeiro to kick off the season
last year. I don't like that. If you got a
team that's a serious contender, there's nothing but downside.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
To me.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right. But they're trying to spread it around the world.
Is there any indication it's catching on anywhere around the
world that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
People are digging it?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The way the NBA kind of has? My understanding is, yeah,
the answer to that is yes. We're acquiring more and
more international fans. We, say if I'm involved, in the
same way that the English Premier League is getting bigger
and bigger in the U.S., the soccer league.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So, yes, it's working. You know what I'm assessing in
my heart and in my mind?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Because you, much like your off-the-books ad sales, were implying
that if there are negative effects of this, it will
hurt the NFL in the U.S. And I'm thinking if
my beloved Niners were to poo the bed tomorrow because
of jet lag, et cetera, and lost their first game
(05:02):
against the hated Rams— No offense, Rams fans. Fine football team.
Would I hold that against the league to the extent
that I would be less of a fan over the
long term?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, you do have this aspect.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Obviously, if every team is playing an international game somewhere,
you have to be missing out on home games at
some point, don't you? So you don't get to go to,
you don't have as many opportunities to see your team.
That's got to bother fans that actually go to games,
I would think. Well, I know they've worked it out.
(05:35):
They've considered that in the scheduling. I think it's one
of your away games if you're in a foreign country,
but I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
There's no doubt that somebody misses out on home field advantage. Uh, true. Yeah.
You got two away teams.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Two road teams.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. They got nine games, Paris, France.
Does anybody Paris?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Are there any high schools in Europe? Talked about this
a while back. Maybe you weren't here.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I don't remember, but are there any high schools in
Europe where they have high, where they have football teams
playing our kind of football? Probably just on American military basis. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So it just seems odd.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Not important.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm not sure how important the midterm.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Convention is going to be tonight either. No, and it's
up against football. Yeah, but that's a bad break.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm sure Trump at some point realized, oh, crap, because
he definitely understands the power of the NFL as a
former TV star up against the season opener with the
defending or just repeating the Super Bowl. But not much
you can do about that. I don't know if it's
going to move the needle or not. Trump's speaking both nights,
tonight and tomorrow night. If you'll remember the last time
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he spoke at a convention, I was there for part
of it. Then I went to a restaurant to eat
and watched part of it. Then I walked all the
way back to my hotel room. It was still going.
And then much, much, much, much later, while I was
on the phone, I think it ended. He talked for
90 minutes, if you remember that. So I don't know
if he's going to do that tonight or tomorrow night.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Listening to some of the conventional wisdom banging around is
slightly more interesting than usual about the fact that the
Republican Party is essentially, or Trump is trying to nationalize
the elections, all of the non-national elections for congresspeople and
senators and everything else that goes into your local statehouse
at a moment when Trump is quite unpopular. At the
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same time, though, the emphasis is going to be on, hey,
Look at all the good policy stuff we've done.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nobody's talking about this. Here it is.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And I think that message deserves to be delivered because,
as always, Republicans get unfair treatment in the media. If
people watch it, you've got to watch it for any
of these messages to get out.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't plan to watch a second, so I don't
know what other people are going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you'll be paying a visit to your client, Apple. Anyway,
I think I'll watch some of it. And remember, there's
the echo chamber, too, and the YouTube clips and the
viral stuff. I did notice, to your point, I guess, though,
News Nation today, they opened with it. They they had
a reporter there at the venue and they said, we'll
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be here throughout the day.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We'll be taking it all live.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And they mentioned all the guests, the secretary of treasury
or whoever guests that are speaking tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They're having on the show on News Nation. You know,
Fox is doing it, of course. But sure. And I
don't know to the extent that CNN or MS today now. Hooray.
MSRA is going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Right. But anyway, my point was, I have no idea
what taste this is going to leave in the American mouth.
I just, I don't know how good an idea this is.
Trying to predict the American mouth is not easy. Cable
networks are desperate for content. Oh, they're so boring and irrelevant,
most of them.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
God, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, the shows are terrible. Let's start the show. I
got an interesting topic. We'll get to this later. I'll
tease this topic for later. Because I heard this on
the Dispatch podcast yesterday. I think they wrote an editorial
about it. Hoping for a landslide Democratic win in November.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
A landslide.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Just an absolute throttling of the Republicans in the Senate
and the House to hope to build a better Republican
Party out of it. That is their theme and whether
or not you agree with it. We should discuss that
later because that's kind of an interesting topic. the rebuilding year.
Speaking of football teams, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty
(09:35):
on this. It is Wednesday, September 9th, the year 2026.
We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve of this program.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay. Before we start, I'm dying of curiosity. Katie, what
does your hat say? I can't read it from here.
It says, hold my drink. I'm going to pet this dog.
That is fantastic. That is fantastic. I like how subtle
it is.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's, art.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It is art. Your hat is art. That's the greatest
thing I've ever seen. I expected to be amused and
blown away.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, there's so many of those kind of things that
are just, they're too much.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're too obvious. They're too something. But that is fantastic.
I'm in love with your hat.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That is great. That's the way we started the show
with a showstopper.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
All right, let's begin now officially according to FCC rules
and regulations.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Here we go at Mark.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
The creators of South Park have announced a name change
ahead of their new season. Trey Parker and Matt Stone,
in an apparent nod to President Trump's penchant for renaming
things America, say they will do the same. Quote, inspired
by the bravery and patriotism of Apple and Google, we
are changing the name of South Park to South America.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh, there was a twist at the end. That is
pretty funny. That is pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Because we're patriotic, we're changing it to South American. Oh,
you can just picture the two of them were like,
you know, riding in a car or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And one of them said that the other one just
threw back. Oh, boy. These are odd times. I don't
know if you've noticed. Hold my drink while I pet
this dog. That is so good.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
For those of you who didn't stay up all night
long watching the tennis match and are awake, we will
have the headlines coming up next and check in on
the news of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Stay here.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Armstrong and Getty. So several of the jurors from the
Clancy trial have started doing interviews and what they're saying
about the deliberations.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And how they went the way they did. And that
one holdout juror is pretty interesting. And we'll get to
that later. We'll hear their voices.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah. I wish there was more discussion of Massachusetts
weird insanity law. I bet fewer than half a percent
of Americans who are following this stuff understand how quirky
it is. Yeah, that should be mentioned as part of
every trial. piece on that because that's the whole ball
of wax really if you do read the paper you're
misinformed Anyway, speaking of which, let's figure out who's reporting what.
(12:15):
It's the lead story with Katie Green.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Katie, what do you have?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
All right, starting with the Alphabet Network's ABC. Trump ratchets
up a trade war, moves to ban many Canadian goods
from entering the United States. NBC, Trump escalates the trade
war with Canada, moving to ban imports of some motorcycles, dairy,
and alcohol. And CBS, Canadian tariffs on United States milk, perfume,
golf clubs, and other goods take effect.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
As the trade war grinds on.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh, boy. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It won't last long. You'll wonder what the point was.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We're putting heavy tariffs on boats and cheese, which I
resent personally because I love throwing a little charcuterie platter
down a party down at the yacht club.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, that's my greatest pleasure. Cheeses and yachts. I
love that. Come on, Mr. President.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
From Fox News, Lindsay Clancy attorney Kevin Reddington signals he's
open to a deal and hopes the DA will revisit
the case.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We got an interesting question from a texter that I
hadn't heard anybody say. Maybe we'll include that in our
conversation about the Clancy case when we do it later.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
New York Times.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Netanyahu's rivals call him, quote, unfit after report that he
was warned before the October 7th attack took place.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He's denying that fairly forcefully. From the Financial Times.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Global shipping rules are collapsing, say maritime nations.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, I thought that was interesting. True, yes.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The rules of the sea that have existed for a very, very,
very long time. are falling apart partially because we're not
out there enforcing them anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And China's got a bigger navy than us.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
If you railed against America being quote-unquote the world's.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Policeman, now we have no policeman. How you liking it?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I did back when I was younger and dumber. Now
I understand why I was wrong. I've understood for quite
a while, but I used to say that. It's a
manly confession, and it is appreciated. Would you like to
come to my yacht party? We have lots of cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So much cheese. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, we've imported quite a bit. Well, you know what
I like to do? I like to eat a lot
of cheese, then be in the hot sun on a
boat that's bobbing in the water.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's what makes me feel really good. A belly full
of cheese, little seasick in the sun. That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
New York Post.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Global high school test scores plummet to 20-year low as
AI and social media rot students' brains.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, it's not a lie, but come on. They've been
going that direction for decades. Before AI, before all this,
they were going the wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And that was the post, Katie? Yes, it was. Is
that what you said?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Interestingly, the New York Times account of these horrible test scores.
specifically cites America's failing schools.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Which I thought was remarkable from the lefty times.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
If you look at the graph.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
As we've talked about for a long time, it's been
going this direction for a very, very long time. You
don't get away with blaming it on AI all.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Of a sudden. There are three or four main factors.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
From the LA Times, Malibu residents evacuate after massive expanding
sinkhole opens at Nicolas Cage's house.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
How do you like that? Massive sinkhole at Nicolas Cage's house.
What's going on there? It's because he stole the Constitution
for the Declaration of Independence. Exactly, yeah. His enemies are
trying to get him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Speaking of AI, from Study Finds, Study watched kids interact
with AI toys. The play turned hostile fast.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Love to hear more about that. Was the old thing
where you pulled a, this is a horse. Was that AI?
That's not considered AI. Very early AI, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And finally, from the Babylon Bee, Grand Theft Auto Maker
Rockstar Games sues California for stealing their idea of open
world crime and chaos.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, well said.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
As I've mentioned many times, whatever that thing was called,
that toy, when I was a kid, somehow it got
busted so the arrow didn't point to the right animal
to match up with the noise.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So you put it on the duck and you... This
is a... It would say.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And for the duck and the cow would bark. And
so my whole life I was, I didn't know what
the animal sounds like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I go to the zoo. I'm completely confused. Look, there's
a cow.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Woof, woof, woof.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Right. And I've never really overcome it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's terrible. That was unfortunate. That's a sad story. It
is a sad story.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We'll get into more of the news of the day
coming up. If you missed the segment, get the podcast
Armstrong and Getty on demand. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Hunter Biden announced that he's launching his own crypto token
and it's called Laptop. And like Hunter, it comes preloaded
with viruses.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wow. That's unfortunate. Oh, yeah. That's a good joke. I
like that joke.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Coming up in moments, anthropic researcher quits over out-of-control AI fears.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I just saw the headline on that. His concern? Good God! Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I've never been a prepper, really. I got extra water
in case of an emergency. I'm not prepared for this afternoon.
I'm definitely not a prepper. I have not stockpiled ammunition.
I have no gold bars buried in my backyard. But
I could make a plausible argument for at least some
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of those measures from AI fears. In a way that,
you know, there's going to be a civil war, whatever
crap people were talking about a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I never took that seriously at all.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What are you going to husband? And what are you anticipating? Like,
would having weapons help me when AI gets takes over?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Who am I shooting for what?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Your neighbors for trying to grab your stuff because they
have not husbanded a fungible value like gold or, I mean,
the currency. The currency will probably.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Still be cash. I have thought about that. I have
thought about that, the.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Whole you got to own land or gold or whatever
because when the whole AI thing goes nutso.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I have thought about that.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, and I hadn't intended to get into this, but
I suppose we could. I was going to talk about
why so many Americans are unhappy about the economy.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There are good reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But anyway, yeah, the only thing that really scares me
about the whole AI thing is gigantic cyber attacks that
do irreparable damage to our financial systems. Because my entire
life's work and accumulated wealth, such as it is, is
zeros and ones on computers. It is not tangible good.
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except for my house, I suppose. And I'll be defending
that with the weapons and ammunition I've husbanded, obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But, yeah, that's the only thing I really fear.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And it's not completely implausible. Especially if you've got... Well,
I was going to say, especially if you've got these...
Computing devices of a sophistication we can't even imagine coming
up with incomprehensible speed, various plans to accomplish what I
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was just describing.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Can the defense be good enough to stop the offense? Well, right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And wherever my zeros and ones indicating a certain amount
of money are with an investment firm or whatever, you know,
everybody's got their own or a bank.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
If AI just wiped it clean... And I'm not sure
that it couldn't. Then what? Oh, I had, you know,
X number of dollars in there. Yeah, so you say.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So an anthropic researcher is quitting the AI industry entirely
over fears that the lab and its competitors are racing
to build systems they won't be able to control. Jacob Coxon,
a researcher who specializes in training new AI models by
having them consume vast amounts of data, said, yes. And
this is Anthropic, known to be the most conscientious of
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the companies. Indeed, he had left OpenAI earlier this year
to join Anthropic because it's known for its model safety efforts.
But even though he found anthropic safety efforts to be earnest,
he now believes no company can responsibly develop AI that
can outperform humans in a range of tasks, sometimes called
artificial general intelligence, absent government invention, or a coordinated industry slowdown.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Good luck with that. What about China?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I was going to say, do you want to throw
in your phrase now or later? What about China? So
he said yesterday he is leaving the company because he
does not want to participate in an industry-wide rush to
build AI systems that can improve themselves, worried such systems
could spiral out of control and destroy humanity. I like
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him calling attention to this. I think the whole quitting
is kind of dumb. Wouldn't you rather be there and
continue to have a voice in the meetings or something
like that? That's a really interesting question. We're on track,
he says, for a lot of the most aggressive of
these scenarios, whereby the end of next year things could
be out of control already.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Adding that safety trade-offs are inevitable when companies are competing
against one another and Chinese upstarts.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He understands that. He actually mentions China.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I don't... I have not heard anybody make even, like,
an argument so solid a 12-year-old would buy it about
how we as a society, as a government... as humanity,
are going to regulate this. Everybody just says, we really
need for governments to step in. And nobody even gets
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to the point of, all right, what about China? Because
somebody's going to dominate in this, and it's got to
be us. I've never even heard a discussion that sophisticated.
I suppose they've happened on those five-hour-long podcasts.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
No. Really?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, other than.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And I talked about this at the time because I
was so aghast. One of your AI experts saying.
We're a country run by lawyers. China's a country run
by engineers. And what was the other thing? Engineers, mathematicians
or something like that. Maybe it would be better in
their hands. This guy actually said, well, it's run by
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President Xi and a bunch of oligarchs who call themselves communists.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
That's what's run by.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's run by mathematicians and philosophers or whatever the hell
he said. So no, no, I haven't heard anybody actually
get into that argument.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And from what I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
About AI, whoever develops the best AI, it's going to
swamp the world and take over everything.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
There are no borders for AI.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Open AI CEO Sam Altman told a group of 20
officials last week at a summit in North Carolina, quote,
I think some things are going to go very wrong
with cybersecurity unless people act quite urgently. Industry leaders have
been warning that recent cyber attacks are a harbinger of
things to come. Open AI told reporters last week that
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its latest model represented artificial general intelligence.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And a big step up in capabilities.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So, as I said last week, and this is going
to stay in my mind as this happens to the world,
either six months from now or six years from now
or whenever, it's like the video of those people running
from that building as the mudslide was coming.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And they thought, I'm going to get away. This conversation
is that. I've got a chance. You're saying that.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This conversation is that. I'm going to run as fast
as I can. Or you could have turned around and said,
Bring it on. Or you could have sat in your
office and looked at porn on your computer. It wouldn't
have made any difference because the tidal wave of reality
was about to swamp you and kill you. I don't
know if AI is going to kill us, but it
is about to swamp us. And you can think about
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it all day or not think about it all day
or do whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Whistle Dixie. Go ahead. On air meeting. I'm calling for
an on air meeting.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If we drive all of our listeners to despair and suicide,
it'll be really bad for business.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, I did think it's going to happen, and I
think it's going to be damned interesting. And, like, I
take in as much information about it as AI as
I can because I just think it's fascinating. But I
don't think that any of these– I think all these
conversations are going to seem hilarious in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right, right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
If there's one thing we should have learned from COVID,
it's that do not trust scientists with policy. They have
a very narrow myopic focus and should not be in
charge of policy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Just absolutely. We follow the science. No, you need to
follow a hell of a lot more than that. Gavin Newsom,
the worst of the worst. With his fixation on one
aspect of public policy. A couple more quick notes. Well,
then we got to get to the 10 million humans dying.
We haven't mentioned that. What? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Seems like a headline.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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got a thousand AI types signed a statement urging global
governments to coordinate on a system to slow AI development.
(27:29):
If a brake pedal is needed, what about China? And
then they mention that Anthropic uses an employee Slack channel
to hold discussions about the powerful capabilities of their models,
said Cox and the fellow who quit that we were
talking about at the outset. He described it as a
reflection of how much influence AI companies have over the
industry's development. Quote, it's kind of insane that it has
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to happen on the MacBooks of some engineers living in
San Francisco instead of a bunker in the desert like
where they were doing the Manhattan Project, he said. Okay, well,
I just looked at his Twitter thread five minutes ago,
and he's got tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet,
this Jacob Coxon guy from Anthropic. And this one is
getting a tremendous amount of attention. The people building AI
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earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the
end of the decade. That is a heck of a
sentence from a guy who's on the inside of what
Elon says is currently the best AI out there.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Anthropic.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Not that tobacco executives understood that nicotine was addictive. Right.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And could lead to certain disease. No. No, read that again.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill
us all by the end of the decade.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
This is not a marketing stunt.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their
phrasing in the press to sound sensible, but I hear
the same people express fear privately. No other human activity
poses this level of danger.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say. How is this not getting more attention?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Just so I understand, when he says the end of
the decade, the end of the 2020s are like the
end of 10 years starting now, so I can plan accordingly.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I mean, because it's a significant difference.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, there's a lot more to this part of it,
which is getting a lot of attention online.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
For obvious reasons.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Maybe we'll get into that in an hour or two
and some of the responses and everything like that. But
that's a heck of a thing for a guy working
at the biggest AI in the world. To say. I
am not young and strong enough for the apocalypse. My
strategy has got to be I will be the leader.
of the young and strong and will sick them on
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my rivals. I've got to be the cartel boss. That's
why I'm in the gym every day.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, well. Preparing for the apocalypse. That's what I'm saying
as I'm doing my reps. End of the decade. End
of the decade. Got to be ready. Got to be ready.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think I'm going to put my fat arse in
my car and go buy ammunition.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So you enjoy your weightlifting. I think I'll build a fence. Folks,
I'd like to apologize for this. Well, you might as well.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's like the end of Don't Look Up, the delightful
Leo DiCaprio movie. You sit there, you hold hands with
your family and talk about how lucky you are. Yeah,
that's another good scene. Like my running away from the
giant mudslide. The end of Don't Look Up where they all...
Sit there and decide to have a conversation about the
good times. As they're atomized.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I'm sorry, folks. I'm sorry for the tone of the show.
I apologize. I hope we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I pray we're wrong. If there is a God, hear
us now, O Lord. Oh, yeah, I want to be wrong.
Do something quick.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Amen. And not, like, later.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Do it now.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Because we've got to get to mailbag. So we'll get
into this guy's claims in an hour or two.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
But....
Speaker 1 (30:57):
One of the most valuable companies in the world with
a giant technology that's coming that all the smart people
recognize is a really, really big deal at different levels.
The fact that this guy claims, hey, I resigned because
in the hallways, the chatter is, this is going to
kill every human by the end of the decade.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean, when has this sort of conversation ever been had? Well,
if it's the end of the 2020s, that is really inconvenient. Yikes.
But depending on your loan, you might not have to
pay off your car.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Upside.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Upside.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
There you go. Okay, we've got Mailbag next. Stay here.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
The most depressing radio show.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Armstrong and Getty. Okay, so I'm doing a deep dive
on this guy from Anthropic and some others who agree
with him about the threat of AI to humanity and
killing us all by the end of the decade. It's
really some stunning conversation. They might be whack jobs.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I don't know. But it's damned interesting. We'll get into that.
Next hour, Chief Dark Cloud.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's time for the freedom-loving quote of the day. Yeah,
I think we should.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Anyway, I love this one.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I don't know the work of Idowu Koyanikin. He's a
thinker and writer, a man of African descent. But he said,
there is no progress or accomplishment without sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
None.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
None. That's a good attitude to have. Everything costs something.
Everything you want is going to cost something. So just
get after it. Well, you know, my favorite Greek philosopher saying, Sophocles,
I think, success requires effort.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So simple. So true.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And some of those most basic, fundamental bedrock precepts have
been lost to Marxism. Anyway, more on that to come.
Drop us a note, mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. Let's see, Art
writes on the topic of renaming New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
As a New Mexico resident.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I would like to suggest that at least change the
name to Numerica so that we can keep our abbreviation.
Your loyal podcast listener from unincorporated Javelina nipple, New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Numerica. That's Art. Thanks, Art.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Steve from Eugene says, fitness is fascist? Oh, we were
talking about this yesterday, Michael.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You have to give up the fantasy of being fitter
than the fascists.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yes, at the Socialist 2026 conference, they discussed how weight
loss and fitness are fascist concepts.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Steve from Eugene writes, well, I guess I participated in
the fascist, capitalist, neo-imperialist paradigm on the treadmill yesterday and
then in the pool this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Dang it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think it is on some level. I was looking
at all those people. They were either quite obese or
so weedy. And it just happens to fit in with
your view that being fit is fascist and white supremacy,
that you can continue to be a 98-pound weakling or
morbidly obese.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Correct. And that fits in with Islamism. What? You're saying?
You're blowing my mind, Joseph. We'll discuss that next hour.
Can't wait.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I proposed having a potato chip tasting YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sean writes.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
First, your potato chip channel should obviously be called Joe's
Chip on My Shoulder.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh, that is so good. Sean, winner.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Cool kids will call it J-coms, while those with butlers
will pronounce it in the French manner, jacome. Each episode,
you start with the packaging. Story on the back, how
much air is in the bag, bag quality and art,
that sort of thing. Then you open and take a
big long whiff and describe the nose. Then it's the chip.
Crunch scale, salt scale, flavor profile, thickness, color, etc. In
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a year, no one will believe you used to be
a DJ. You bastard, Sean.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Never call me that.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
There are dumber channels that have millions of viewers. I mean,
what am I carrying in my pocket today is huge.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Let's see. This is from Marco Dolt in Oregon.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
He was listening to us talk about jury duty, and
I was talking about lunkheads and dolts and that sort
of thing, and he got picked for a trial, and
he spent all weekend wondering whether he is a lunkhead
or a dolt or perhaps both, but then my favorite
line of his email, I also got a good taste
of 150 people who can't follow basic instructions but can
decide on guilt or innocence. Wow, I have jury duty
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actually Friday, or I guess I'll find out Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
If I actually need to show up. So maybe I'll
be going through this soon.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And PJ wants to know, why doesn't anyone know on
the Lindsay Clancy child murder trial, why doesn't anyone mention
the Houston trial of Andrea Yates who murdered her children?
The jury took only hours to convict. We believe this
trial was in the early 2000s. Please look into it.
We've mentioned it repeatedly, PJ. That was in an era
before victimhood. Was the highest status of American life. Also,
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the whole proving you're crazy versus try to prove I'm
not crazy is a different thing.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh, that's fundamental to the question.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Massachusetts is practically the only state in the nation that
has such policies, and nobody's talking about it on the
news because the news is terrible and hardly worth taking in. Okay,
so we have a lot more to talk about. Really
good stuff today. Kind of excited about it. If you
missed the segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
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Armstrong and Getty.
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
From studio c c senor it's a dimly lit room
deep within the bowels of the armstrong and getty communications
compound and love these short weeks it's already the middle
of the week uh today we're toiling under the title
of the show the economy one star cannot recommend or
if you prefer it's a midterm party who's in Yeah,
(00:55):
I want you to rank these three things that are
happening today in terms of your interest.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You got the midterm convention. Oh, that's a strong start.
Which I keep hearing... A tongue dipped in sarcasm. Oh,
you detected it.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Which I keep hearing on CNN, MSNBC, please. That's not
even a thing, all right, midterm conventions? You mark my words.
Four years from now, Democrats are going to have one.
Garen's freaking teed. So pretend it's not a thing. You're
going to decide it's a thing in four years.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Midterm conventions. Okay.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
NFL season kicking off. Super Bowl rematch, by the way.
And Apple announcement day. New CEO. See his act and
the first foldable phone.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Those are your three events.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Which, as an Apple stockholder, I'm excited that maybe the
phone will wow people and they'll run out and buy it.
Am I allowed to say that, or do I have
to fill out a bunch of paperwork? You've got to
fill out the paperwork now. Clearly, you're selling commercials on
the air without disclosure. I am willing to testify. I
just disclosed it. Well, not officially, though.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
That was an inferred verbal disclosure.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Here's something you don't know about the NFL season kicking off, though,
that I didn't know until I heard it announced. So, yeah,
a rematch of the Super Bowl tonight on Wednesday night.
Starting off the season on Wednesday night, there's a push, apparently,
to add Wednesday night games.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
It's not going to happen this season, but in the
near future.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
So they're going to try to make that a regular thing.
The players and coaches got to hate that. They already
hate the Thursday games. There's already been complaints about that
with injuries and short weeks or long weeks or whatever. Anyway.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
That's a different topic.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Then tomorrow night, you've got your 49ers Seahawks, also a
very important game, in Melbourne, Australia.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Crikey. International game.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
There are nine international games this year, and the goal
is to, within two seasons, have every team play one
international game per year at least. So there'll be 16
or 17 international games. This year, there's the one in Melbourne,
then Rio de Janeiro, London, London, London in October. Paris, Steelers, Saints. Madrid, Spain. Bengals,
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Falcons way out in November. Munich, Germany for Patriots, Lions,
and Vikings, 49ers. 49ers have to play twice overseas. Vikings,
49ers in Mexico City. Yeah, the Mexico City's not as
big a deal, but it's, you know, long enough playing, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I think they're doing a bit of a golden goose
thing here. They're taking the golden goose. They got the
best TV show, biggest money-making thing.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
What is it?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Like last year, 98 of the top 100 shows for
NFL games or something. I mean, it just trounces everything else.
But this is trying to spread it because it really,
I think, is a fan. Like, I hated the Chiefs
playing in Rio de Janeiro to kick off the season
last year. I don't like that. If you got a
team that's a serious contender, there's nothing but downside.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
To me.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Right. But they're trying to spread it around the world.
Is there any indication it's catching on anywhere around the
world that.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
People are digging it?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
The way the NBA kind of has? My understanding is, yeah,
the answer to that is yes. We're acquiring more and
more international fans. We, say if I'm involved, in the
same way that the English Premier League is getting bigger
and bigger in the U.S., the soccer league.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
So, yes, it's working. You know what I'm assessing in
my heart and in my mind?
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Because you, much like your off-the-books ad sales, were implying
that if there are negative effects of this, it will
hurt the NFL in the U.S. And I'm thinking if
my beloved Niners were to poo the bed tomorrow because
of jet lag, et cetera, and lost their first game
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against the hated Rams— No offense, Rams fans. Fine football team.
Would I hold that against the league to the extent
that I would be less of a fan over the
long term?
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Well, you do have this aspect.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Obviously, if every team is playing an international game somewhere,
you have to be missing out on home games at
some point, don't you? So you don't get to go to,
you don't have as many opportunities to see your team.
That's got to bother fans that actually go to games,
I would think. Well, I know they've worked it out.
(05:35):
They've considered that in the scheduling. I think it's one
of your away games if you're in a foreign country,
but I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
There's no doubt that somebody misses out on home field advantage. Uh, true. Yeah.
You got two away teams.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
Two road teams.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Anyway, I just thought it was interesting. They got nine games, Paris, France.
Does anybody Paris?
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Are there any high schools in Europe? Talked about this
a while back. Maybe you weren't here.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I don't remember, but are there any high schools in
Europe where they have high, where they have football teams
playing our kind of football? Probably just on American military basis. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
So it just seems odd.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Not important.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
I'm not sure how important the midterm.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Convention is going to be tonight either. No, and it's
up against football. Yeah, but that's a bad break.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
I'm sure Trump at some point realized, oh, crap, because
he definitely understands the power of the NFL as a
former TV star up against the season opener with the
defending or just repeating the Super Bowl. But not much
you can do about that. I don't know if it's
going to move the needle or not. Trump's speaking both nights,
tonight and tomorrow night. If you'll remember the last time
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he spoke at a convention, I was there for part
of it. Then I went to a restaurant to eat
and watched part of it. Then I walked all the
way back to my hotel room. It was still going.
And then much, much, much, much later, while I was
on the phone, I think it ended. He talked for
90 minutes, if you remember that. So I don't know
if he's going to do that tonight or tomorrow night.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
It's ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Listening to some of the conventional wisdom banging around is
slightly more interesting than usual about the fact that the
Republican Party is essentially, or Trump is trying to nationalize
the elections, all of the non-national elections for congresspeople and
senators and everything else that goes into your local statehouse
at a moment when Trump is quite unpopular. At the
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same time, though, the emphasis is going to be on, hey,
Look at all the good policy stuff we've done.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Nobody's talking about this. Here it is.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
And I think that message deserves to be delivered because,
as always, Republicans get unfair treatment in the media. If
people watch it, you've got to watch it for any
of these messages to get out.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I don't plan to watch a second, so I don't
know what other people are going to do.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, you'll be paying a visit to your client, Apple. Anyway,
I think I'll watch some of it. And remember, there's
the echo chamber, too, and the YouTube clips and the
viral stuff. I did notice, to your point, I guess, though,
News Nation today, they opened with it. They they had
a reporter there at the venue and they said, we'll
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be here throughout the day.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
We'll be taking it all live.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
And they mentioned all the guests, the secretary of treasury
or whoever guests that are speaking tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
They're having on the show on News Nation. You know,
Fox is doing it, of course. But sure. And I
don't know to the extent that CNN or MS today now. Hooray.
MSRA is going to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Right. But anyway, my point was, I have no idea
what taste this is going to leave in the American mouth.
I just, I don't know how good an idea this is.
Trying to predict the American mouth is not easy. Cable
networks are desperate for content. Oh, they're so boring and irrelevant,
most of them.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
God, I'd say so.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Oh, the shows are terrible. Let's start the show. I
got an interesting topic. We'll get to this later. I'll
tease this topic for later. Because I heard this on
the Dispatch podcast yesterday. I think they wrote an editorial
about it. Hoping for a landslide Democratic win in November.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
A landslide.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
Just an absolute throttling of the Republicans in the Senate
and the House to hope to build a better Republican
Party out of it. That is their theme and whether
or not you agree with it. We should discuss that
later because that's kind of an interesting topic. the rebuilding year.
Speaking of football teams, I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty
(09:35):
on this. It is Wednesday, September 9th, the year 2026.
We're Armstrong and Getty, and we approve of this program.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Okay. Before we start, I'm dying of curiosity. Katie, what
does your hat say? I can't read it from here.
It says, hold my drink. I'm going to pet this dog.
That is fantastic. That is fantastic. I like how subtle
it is.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
It's, art.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It is art. Your hat is art. That's the greatest
thing I've ever seen. I expected to be amused and
blown away.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Yeah, there's so many of those kind of things that
are just, they're too much.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
They're too obvious. They're too something. But that is fantastic.
I'm in love with your hat.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
That is great. That's the way we started the show
with a showstopper.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
All right, let's begin now officially according to FCC rules
and regulations.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Here we go at Mark.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
The creators of South Park have announced a name change
ahead of their new season. Trey Parker and Matt Stone,
in an apparent nod to President Trump's penchant for renaming
things America, say they will do the same. Quote, inspired
by the bravery and patriotism of Apple and Google, we
are changing the name of South Park to South America.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
Oh, there was a twist at the end. That is
pretty funny. That is pretty funny.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Because we're patriotic, we're changing it to South American. Oh,
you can just picture the two of them were like,
you know, riding in a car or whatever.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
And one of them said that the other one just
threw back. Oh, boy. These are odd times. I don't
know if you've noticed. Hold my drink while I pet
this dog. That is so good.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
For those of you who didn't stay up all night
long watching the tennis match and are awake, we will
have the headlines coming up next and check in on
the news of the day.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Stay here.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Armstrong and Getty. So several of the jurors from the
Clancy trial have started doing interviews and what they're saying
about the deliberations.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
And how they went the way they did. And that
one holdout juror is pretty interesting. And we'll get to
that later. We'll hear their voices.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Yeah, yeah. I wish there was more discussion of Massachusetts
weird insanity law. I bet fewer than half a percent
of Americans who are following this stuff understand how quirky
it is. Yeah, that should be mentioned as part of
every trial. piece on that because that's the whole ball
of wax really if you do read the paper you're
misinformed Anyway, speaking of which, let's figure out who's reporting what.
(12:15):
It's the lead story with Katie Green.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
Katie, what do you have?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
All right, starting with the Alphabet Network's ABC. Trump ratchets
up a trade war, moves to ban many Canadian goods
from entering the United States. NBC, Trump escalates the trade
war with Canada, moving to ban imports of some motorcycles, dairy,
and alcohol. And CBS, Canadian tariffs on United States milk, perfume,
golf clubs, and other goods take effect.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
As the trade war grinds on.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
Oh, boy. I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
It won't last long. You'll wonder what the point was.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
We're putting heavy tariffs on boats and cheese, which I
resent personally because I love throwing a little charcuterie platter
down a party down at the yacht club.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, that's my greatest pleasure. Cheeses and yachts. I
love that. Come on, Mr. President.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
From Fox News, Lindsay Clancy attorney Kevin Reddington signals he's
open to a deal and hopes the DA will revisit
the case.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
We got an interesting question from a texter that I
hadn't heard anybody say. Maybe we'll include that in our
conversation about the Clancy case when we do it later.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
New York Times.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Netanyahu's rivals call him, quote, unfit after report that he
was warned before the October 7th attack took place.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
He's denying that fairly forcefully. From the Financial Times.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
Global shipping rules are collapsing, say maritime nations.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Yeah, I thought that was interesting. True, yes.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
The rules of the sea that have existed for a very, very,
very long time. are falling apart partially because we're not
out there enforcing them anymore.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
And China's got a bigger navy than us.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
If you railed against America being quote-unquote the world's.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Policeman, now we have no policeman. How you liking it?
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I did back when I was younger and dumber. Now
I understand why I was wrong. I've understood for quite
a while, but I used to say that. It's a
manly confession, and it is appreciated. Would you like to
come to my yacht party? We have lots of cheese.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
So much cheese. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Well, we've imported quite a bit. Well, you know what
I like to do? I like to eat a lot
of cheese, then be in the hot sun on a
boat that's bobbing in the water.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
That's what makes me feel really good. A belly full
of cheese, little seasick in the sun. That sounds good.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Oh, boy.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
New York Post.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Global high school test scores plummet to 20-year low as
AI and social media rot students' brains.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Huge.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, it's not a lie, but come on. They've been
going that direction for decades. Before AI, before all this,
they were going the wrong direction.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And that was the post, Katie? Yes, it was. Is
that what you said?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Interestingly, the New York Times account of these horrible test scores.
specifically cites America's failing schools.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
Which I thought was remarkable from the lefty times.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
If you look at the graph.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
As we've talked about for a long time, it's been
going this direction for a very, very long time. You
don't get away with blaming it on AI all.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Of a sudden. There are three or four main factors.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
From the LA Times, Malibu residents evacuate after massive expanding
sinkhole opens at Nicolas Cage's house.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
How do you like that? Massive sinkhole at Nicolas Cage's house.
What's going on there? It's because he stole the Constitution
for the Declaration of Independence. Exactly, yeah. His enemies are
trying to get him.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Speaking of AI, from Study Finds, Study watched kids interact
with AI toys. The play turned hostile fast.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Love to hear more about that. Was the old thing
where you pulled a, this is a horse. Was that AI?
That's not considered AI. Very early AI, yes.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
And finally, from the Babylon Bee, Grand Theft Auto Maker
Rockstar Games sues California for stealing their idea of open
world crime and chaos.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, well said.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
As I've mentioned many times, whatever that thing was called,
that toy, when I was a kid, somehow it got
busted so the arrow didn't point to the right animal
to match up with the noise.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So you put it on the duck and you... This
is a... It would say.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
And for the duck and the cow would bark. And
so my whole life I was, I didn't know what
the animal sounds like.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I go to the zoo. I'm completely confused. Look, there's
a cow.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Woof, woof, woof.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
Right. And I've never really overcome it.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
That's terrible. That was unfortunate. That's a sad story. It
is a sad story.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
We'll get into more of the news of the day
coming up. If you missed the segment, get the podcast
Armstrong and Getty on demand. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
Hunter Biden announced that he's launching his own crypto token
and it's called Laptop. And like Hunter, it comes preloaded
with viruses.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wow. That's unfortunate. Oh, yeah. That's a good joke. I
like that joke.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
Coming up in moments, anthropic researcher quits over out-of-control AI fears.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I just saw the headline on that. His concern? Good God! Yes, yes.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
I've never been a prepper, really. I got extra water
in case of an emergency. I'm not prepared for this afternoon.
I'm definitely not a prepper. I have not stockpiled ammunition.
I have no gold bars buried in my backyard. But
I could make a plausible argument for at least some
(18:29):
of those measures from AI fears. In a way that,
you know, there's going to be a civil war, whatever
crap people were talking about a few years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I never took that seriously at all.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
What are you going to husband? And what are you anticipating? Like,
would having weapons help me when AI gets takes over?
Speaker 3 (18:51):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Who am I shooting for what?
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Your neighbors for trying to grab your stuff because they
have not husbanded a fungible value like gold or, I mean,
the currency. The currency will probably.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Still be cash. I have thought about that. I have
thought about that, the.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Whole you got to own land or gold or whatever
because when the whole AI thing goes nutso.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I have thought about that.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, and I hadn't intended to get into this, but
I suppose we could. I was going to talk about
why so many Americans are unhappy about the economy.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
There are good reasons for it.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But anyway, yeah, the only thing that really scares me
about the whole AI thing is gigantic cyber attacks that
do irreparable damage to our financial systems. Because my entire
life's work and accumulated wealth, such as it is, is
zeros and ones on computers. It is not tangible good.
(19:50):
except for my house, I suppose. And I'll be defending
that with the weapons and ammunition I've husbanded, obviously.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
But, yeah, that's the only thing I really fear.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
And it's not completely implausible. Especially if you've got... Well,
I was going to say, especially if you've got these...
Computing devices of a sophistication we can't even imagine coming
up with incomprehensible speed, various plans to accomplish what I
(20:20):
was just describing.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
Can the defense be good enough to stop the offense? Well, right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
And wherever my zeros and ones indicating a certain amount
of money are with an investment firm or whatever, you know,
everybody's got their own or a bank.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
If AI just wiped it clean... And I'm not sure
that it couldn't. Then what? Oh, I had, you know,
X number of dollars in there. Yeah, so you say.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Maybe.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So an anthropic researcher is quitting the AI industry entirely
over fears that the lab and its competitors are racing
to build systems they won't be able to control. Jacob Coxon,
a researcher who specializes in training new AI models by
having them consume vast amounts of data, said, yes. And
this is Anthropic, known to be the most conscientious of
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the companies. Indeed, he had left OpenAI earlier this year
to join Anthropic because it's known for its model safety efforts.
But even though he found anthropic safety efforts to be earnest,
he now believes no company can responsibly develop AI that
can outperform humans in a range of tasks, sometimes called
artificial general intelligence, absent government invention, or a coordinated industry slowdown.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Good luck with that. What about China?
Speaker 1 (21:34):
I was going to say, do you want to throw
in your phrase now or later? What about China? So
he said yesterday he is leaving the company because he
does not want to participate in an industry-wide rush to
build AI systems that can improve themselves, worried such systems
could spiral out of control and destroy humanity. I like
(21:55):
him calling attention to this. I think the whole quitting
is kind of dumb. Wouldn't you rather be there and
continue to have a voice in the meetings or something
like that? That's a really interesting question. We're on track,
he says, for a lot of the most aggressive of
these scenarios, whereby the end of next year things could
be out of control already.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
Adding that safety trade-offs are inevitable when companies are competing
against one another and Chinese upstarts.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
He understands that. He actually mentions China.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
But I don't... I have not heard anybody make even, like,
an argument so solid a 12-year-old would buy it about
how we as a society, as a government... as humanity,
are going to regulate this. Everybody just says, we really
need for governments to step in. And nobody even gets
(22:47):
to the point of, all right, what about China? Because
somebody's going to dominate in this, and it's got to
be us. I've never even heard a discussion that sophisticated.
I suppose they've happened on those five-hour-long podcasts.
Speaker 3 (22:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
No. Really?
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Well, other than.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And I talked about this at the time because I
was so aghast. One of your AI experts saying.
We're a country run by lawyers. China's a country run
by engineers. And what was the other thing? Engineers, mathematicians
or something like that. Maybe it would be better in
their hands. This guy actually said, well, it's run by
(23:22):
President Xi and a bunch of oligarchs who call themselves communists.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
That's what's run by.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It's run by mathematicians and philosophers or whatever the hell
he said. So no, no, I haven't heard anybody actually
get into that argument.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
And from what I understand.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
About AI, whoever develops the best AI, it's going to
swamp the world and take over everything.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
There are no borders for AI.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Open AI CEO Sam Altman told a group of 20
officials last week at a summit in North Carolina, quote,
I think some things are going to go very wrong
with cybersecurity unless people act quite urgently. Industry leaders have
been warning that recent cyber attacks are a harbinger of
things to come. Open AI told reporters last week that
(24:13):
its latest model represented artificial general intelligence.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
And a big step up in capabilities.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
So, as I said last week, and this is going
to stay in my mind as this happens to the world,
either six months from now or six years from now
or whenever, it's like the video of those people running
from that building as the mudslide was coming.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
And they thought, I'm going to get away. This conversation
is that. I've got a chance. You're saying that.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
This conversation is that. I'm going to run as fast
as I can. Or you could have turned around and said,
Bring it on. Or you could have sat in your
office and looked at porn on your computer. It wouldn't
have made any difference because the tidal wave of reality
was about to swamp you and kill you. I don't
know if AI is going to kill us, but it
is about to swamp us. And you can think about
(25:00):
it all day or not think about it all day
or do whatever the hell you want.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Whistle Dixie. Go ahead. On air meeting. I'm calling for
an on air meeting.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
If we drive all of our listeners to despair and suicide,
it'll be really bad for business.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
Stop it.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, I did think it's going to happen, and I
think it's going to be damned interesting. And, like, I
take in as much information about it as AI as
I can because I just think it's fascinating. But I
don't think that any of these– I think all these
conversations are going to seem hilarious in retrospect.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right, right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
If there's one thing we should have learned from COVID,
it's that do not trust scientists with policy. They have
a very narrow myopic focus and should not be in
charge of policy.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Just absolutely. We follow the science. No, you need to
follow a hell of a lot more than that. Gavin Newsom,
the worst of the worst. With his fixation on one
aspect of public policy. A couple more quick notes. Well,
then we got to get to the 10 million humans dying.
We haven't mentioned that. What? Yeah.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Seems like a headline.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
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got a thousand AI types signed a statement urging global
governments to coordinate on a system to slow AI development.
(27:29):
If a brake pedal is needed, what about China? And
then they mention that Anthropic uses an employee Slack channel
to hold discussions about the powerful capabilities of their models,
said Cox and the fellow who quit that we were
talking about at the outset. He described it as a
reflection of how much influence AI companies have over the
industry's development. Quote, it's kind of insane that it has
(27:50):
to happen on the MacBooks of some engineers living in
San Francisco instead of a bunker in the desert like
where they were doing the Manhattan Project, he said. Okay, well,
I just looked at his Twitter thread five minutes ago,
and he's got tweet after tweet after tweet after tweet,
this Jacob Coxon guy from Anthropic. And this one is
getting a tremendous amount of attention. The people building AI
(28:13):
earnestly believe that it could kill us all by the
end of the decade. That is a heck of a
sentence from a guy who's on the inside of what
Elon says is currently the best AI out there.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
Anthropic.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Not that tobacco executives understood that nicotine was addictive. Right.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And could lead to certain disease. No. No, read that again.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
The people building AI earnestly believe that it could kill
us all by the end of the decade.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
This is not a marketing stunt.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
If anything, many executives and senior researchers will couch their
phrasing in the press to sound sensible, but I hear
the same people express fear privately. No other human activity
poses this level of danger.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, I'd say. How is this not getting more attention?
Speaker 1 (29:01):
Just so I understand, when he says the end of
the decade, the end of the 2020s are like the
end of 10 years starting now, so I can plan accordingly.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I mean, because it's a significant difference.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Well, there's a lot more to this part of it,
which is getting a lot of attention online.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
For obvious reasons.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Maybe we'll get into that in an hour or two
and some of the responses and everything like that. But
that's a heck of a thing for a guy working
at the biggest AI in the world. To say. I
am not young and strong enough for the apocalypse. My
strategy has got to be I will be the leader.
of the young and strong and will sick them on
(29:43):
my rivals. I've got to be the cartel boss. That's
why I'm in the gym every day.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah, well. Preparing for the apocalypse. That's what I'm saying
as I'm doing my reps. End of the decade. End
of the decade. Got to be ready. Got to be ready.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
I think I'm going to put my fat arse in
my car and go buy ammunition.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
So you enjoy your weightlifting. I think I'll build a fence. Folks,
I'd like to apologize for this. Well, you might as well.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
It's like the end of Don't Look Up, the delightful
Leo DiCaprio movie. You sit there, you hold hands with
your family and talk about how lucky you are. Yeah,
that's another good scene. Like my running away from the
giant mudslide. The end of Don't Look Up where they all...
Sit there and decide to have a conversation about the
good times. As they're atomized.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
I'm sorry, folks. I'm sorry for the tone of the show.
I apologize. I hope we're wrong.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
I pray we're wrong. If there is a God, hear
us now, O Lord. Oh, yeah, I want to be wrong.
Do something quick.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Amen. And not, like, later.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Do it now.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
Because we've got to get to mailbag. So we'll get
into this guy's claims in an hour or two.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
But....
Speaker 1 (30:57):
One of the most valuable companies in the world with
a giant technology that's coming that all the smart people
recognize is a really, really big deal at different levels.
The fact that this guy claims, hey, I resigned because
in the hallways, the chatter is, this is going to
kill every human by the end of the decade.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I mean, when has this sort of conversation ever been had? Well,
if it's the end of the 2020s, that is really inconvenient. Yikes.
But depending on your loan, you might not have to
pay off your car.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Upside.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Upside.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
There you go. Okay, we've got Mailbag next. Stay here.
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Uh-oh.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
The most depressing radio show.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's true.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Armstrong and Getty. Okay, so I'm doing a deep dive
on this guy from Anthropic and some others who agree
with him about the threat of AI to humanity and
killing us all by the end of the decade. It's
really some stunning conversation. They might be whack jobs.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
I don't know. But it's damned interesting. We'll get into that.
Next hour, Chief Dark Cloud.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's time for the freedom-loving quote of the day. Yeah,
I think we should.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Anyway, I love this one.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I don't know the work of Idowu Koyanikin. He's a
thinker and writer, a man of African descent. But he said,
there is no progress or accomplishment without sacrifice.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
None.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
None. That's a good attitude to have. Everything costs something.
Everything you want is going to cost something. So just
get after it. Well, you know, my favorite Greek philosopher saying, Sophocles,
I think, success requires effort.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
So simple. So true.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
And some of those most basic, fundamental bedrock precepts have
been lost to Marxism. Anyway, more on that to come.
Drop us a note, mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. Let's see, Art
writes on the topic of renaming New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
As a New Mexico resident.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
I would like to suggest that at least change the
name to Numerica so that we can keep our abbreviation.
Your loyal podcast listener from unincorporated Javelina nipple, New Mexico.
Speaker 2 (33:15):
Numerica. That's Art. Thanks, Art.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
Steve from Eugene says, fitness is fascist? Oh, we were
talking about this yesterday, Michael.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
You have to give up the fantasy of being fitter
than the fascists.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yes, at the Socialist 2026 conference, they discussed how weight
loss and fitness are fascist concepts.
Speaker 2 (33:36):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Steve from Eugene writes, well, I guess I participated in
the fascist, capitalist, neo-imperialist paradigm on the treadmill yesterday and
then in the pool this morning.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
Dang it.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I think it is on some level. I was looking
at all those people. They were either quite obese or
so weedy. And it just happens to fit in with
your view that being fit is fascist and white supremacy,
that you can continue to be a 98-pound weakling or
morbidly obese.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
Correct. And that fits in with Islamism. What? You're saying?
You're blowing my mind, Joseph. We'll discuss that next hour.
Can't wait.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
So I proposed having a potato chip tasting YouTube channel.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Sean writes.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
First, your potato chip channel should obviously be called Joe's
Chip on My Shoulder.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
Oh, that is so good. Sean, winner.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Cool kids will call it J-coms, while those with butlers
will pronounce it in the French manner, jacome. Each episode,
you start with the packaging. Story on the back, how
much air is in the bag, bag quality and art,
that sort of thing. Then you open and take a
big long whiff and describe the nose. Then it's the chip.
Crunch scale, salt scale, flavor profile, thickness, color, etc. In
(34:51):
a year, no one will believe you used to be
a DJ. You bastard, Sean.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Never call me that.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
There are dumber channels that have millions of viewers. I mean,
what am I carrying in my pocket today is huge.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
Let's see. This is from Marco Dolt in Oregon.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
He was listening to us talk about jury duty, and
I was talking about lunkheads and dolts and that sort
of thing, and he got picked for a trial, and
he spent all weekend wondering whether he is a lunkhead
or a dolt or perhaps both, but then my favorite
line of his email, I also got a good taste
of 150 people who can't follow basic instructions but can
decide on guilt or innocence. Wow, I have jury duty
(35:37):
actually Friday, or I guess I'll find out Thursday night.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
If I actually need to show up. So maybe I'll
be going through this soon.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
And PJ wants to know, why doesn't anyone know on
the Lindsay Clancy child murder trial, why doesn't anyone mention
the Houston trial of Andrea Yates who murdered her children?
The jury took only hours to convict. We believe this
trial was in the early 2000s. Please look into it.
We've mentioned it repeatedly, PJ. That was in an era
before victimhood. Was the highest status of American life. Also,
(36:07):
the whole proving you're crazy versus try to prove I'm
not crazy is a different thing.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
Oh, that's fundamental to the question.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
Massachusetts is practically the only state in the nation that
has such policies, and nobody's talking about it on the
news because the news is terrible and hardly worth taking in. Okay,
so we have a lot more to talk about. Really
good stuff today. Kind of excited about it. If you
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