November 28, 2025 • 36 mins
The A&G Replay on November 28,2025 Hour 1 contains:
- The semicolon, economy & student drivers
- Jack's son gets braces
- Jason Owens interview with Jack on Border Challenges
- Caution about Brazilian Butt Lift
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty Armstrong and Jett.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
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The writer Kurt Vonnegut, who I'm a big fan of,
said that the semi colon said of the semi colon,
it's showy. It's chiefly used to show you've been to college.
More than two thirds of young Americans say they know
how to use it. About the same number test prove
actually don't. That's pretty funny. Two thirds of people say
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they know how to use a semon colan two thirds.
Actually don't. Kurt Vonnegett says, you only use it to
show you've been to college. That's pretty funny, you know what.
I actually use it semi frequently. It to me takes
the same role, has the same role as like dot,
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it's it's it's well.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I've heard it described as a soft period, stronger than
a comma, but not quite the full stop of a period.
I have a big meeting tomorrow, semi colon. I need
to prepare tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Less cramping. Oh, you're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So my dot, which I'm a big fan of, is
basically using a semi coolon. Yeah, yeah, okay, I think
so that's fantastic. So I did want to talk about this.
This is actually important. So the stat from a week
or so ago really got my attention. Consumer spending is
doing okay, pretty good, hanging in there, because when consumer
(02:20):
spending goes, the economy collapses, because two thirds of our
economy is consumer spending. But right now, half of consumer
spending is just the top ten percent. So the burden
of consumer spending is being is on a small number
of people.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
M I find myself wondering, what's the usual percentage. That's
the top ten percent actions. I actually they have more money.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah yeah, I actually had that, and I don't remember
what it was, but it was significantly significant change. Okay,
because I wondered that too. I'll have to look that
stet up because that is important to the whole thing.
But so this news out of that is not that surprising.
While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch.
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There is something called the Michigan Index, which I've heard
before whenever you get into this topic. It's a common
and well respected consumer sentiment gauge that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Factors in a bunch of different things.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The Michigan Index, anyway, consumer sentiment was at seventy not
that long ago. In the summer, it collapsed. It's down
to fifty five, where the number one hundred signals neutral
feelings on the economy. When you're at one hundred, you're
just like, Eh, it's okay, and it's not great, it's
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not bad.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Below that, you're mostly negative. But it went from seventy,
which was already somewhat negative, to fifty five for the
middle class. Economic anxiety as running particularly strong among lower
and middle income consumers, and it fell off a cliff
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this summer higher income Americans, And for this study, they're
calling anybody that makes more than one hundred thousand a year.
You make one hundred and one thousand dollars a year
in the Bay Area, you do not consider yourself a
higher income individual. Probably they have buoyant sentiments. I rarely
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describe myself as Hey, Joe, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Buoyant? I'm gonna start doing that more often. You should.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
How's it going buoyant? Af I'll say, But in June,
middle class confidence gave out and the index went down
a lot. And this concern is economists. Course, everything concerns economists,
and they disagree on everything.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But that doesn't surprise me. Really, things are still expensive.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, uh well, And as I've said before, doesn't everything
just feel a little precarious?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yes, yes, it does. Well if you're you know, you
follow the stock market at all. My life experience is
when it's setting records, like every other day, there's a
correction coming. Like my dad, who's been retired for quite
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some time, says I've lost everything. I've half of everything
I've got like three times since I retired. I mean
it happens now and then where you get the big correction.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And the correction isn't going to be like the gentle
parenting craze. It's going to be more like an angry
Catholic school nun in nineteen fifty. Okay, the ruler is
going to come down with a resounding smack.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
God, dang it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Have you all looked at your four to oh one k?
I rarely do. I just had to for some form
the other day. I looked at my phone kind of like,
holy crap. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised with
the stock market constantly set in records and it's pretty
tied into that, but eh, yeah, should.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I a hardcore long term investor guy.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
If you miss the drop by a day and the
rally by a day, you will lose out on an
enormous amount of wealth. That's why you just thrie it out.
On the other hand, I look at what's going on
right now, and I think, oh God, cash out, cash out,
just cash out now, cash out my gold bars or bitcoiner,
(06:29):
doge coiner game stop stock? Is that still going on?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I don't know, gold bars, Maybe that's the answer. This
is breaking news Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who spoke
on the phone with the Prime Minister of Qatar and
apologized for violating Qatar's sovereignty in the strike on Doha
(06:54):
and expressed regret for the killing of a Katari security
guard while they were taking out the various Home Oth leaders.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
There. See, everybody's fine, now.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Nen Ya, who's sitting with the president at right as
we are. I wonder if that was that part of
the deal. Trump said, you gotta call him, apologize, tell
him you're sorry, tell him you're sorry and mean it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Someday.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I wish they would release the Trump Net and Yahoo
tapes like they did the Nixon tapes. I don't know
if there are tapes, but you know, like after the
Katario attack, the word was Trump just let him up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
He yelled at him.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
But then they subsequently, whether it was a couple hours
later or the next day, had a very good column
productive chat. So they've obviously got a couple of alpha male,
hot tempered yelling at each other, you know, a relationship.
I'd love to hear it someday or just read the transcripts,
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but I don't know if that'll ever.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Ask Semi colon that would all be amusing, agreed.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
An anti ice protester in Massachusetts forgot to put her
car in park while yelling at agents making interest of
an illegal alien, and her car rolled into a lake
and sunk.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's disappointed, tells Fox News.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It happened Upton at Massachusett's a small, very blue town
in Blue Worcester County, forty miles west of Boston, and
a clip of voice can be heard saying, well, that sucks.
Look at that, Lucy her car got lost. As the
woman's car drifts further into the water.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Had a lesson for all of us. Oh, that reminds me.
I was practicing driving with my son yesterday. We were
driving around on county highways in his truck as he
is coming up on getting his license, and so I
took him over to a friend's house and a Saturday night,
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and his friend, who is a few months older than him,
has his license now, and I saw him pull up
and it was just like it was I'm sure you've
had this experience, just so. It was so weird to
see this kid that I've known since he was in
kindergar driving a car.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's like, well, I know he's sure, this is all right,
this is really.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Times change, people grow. Hey do you guys have a
student driver on your on your bumper a little sign?
Oh no, I don't. Can you get those? Are you
supposed to have those? I guess? I mean I don't.
Does it carry any legal weight? Do you get any?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You get me? It doesn't care legal weight. But I
appreciate it. Honestly.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
If I'm on a city thoroughfare where nobody ever goes
the speed limit, and somebody's going the speed limit and
I say patience, please, student driver, I see that.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You're oh, okay, got it, got it, got it? Yep.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I won't get up on Not that I would like
dangerously tailgate anyway, but I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So cool, You're cool. I'll just call it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I pull around in front of my brake, check him.
Then I roll coal on them.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I'll do everything you drive them from me, not rolling coal.
But yeah, that happened to me just the other day.
I was was that a weird four way stop situation?
And I said, what is that person doing? And Sam
said they got the student drivers sticker? And I was like, oh, okay, Yeah,
they're trying to figure it out. And yeah, my patients
went way way, way up right.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I shouldn't have screamed, go you f fing mf or
I if i'd seen the sign, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, my son, I think figured out the other day.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
We were having a conversation about a particular group of
people that seemed to struggle with driving.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh, and I think he came upon this realization. And no, no, no, no, no,
he was.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He's very aware of it. He's very aware of the
existence of this. And I won't say why, but I
think he figured out why. And it's always been a mystery.
Why does this particular group of people struggle with driving
so much when they seem to excel at other things.
I won't I won't name the group, but I've got
a great punchline. But it would end our careers today,
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and I can't. I can't explain why. But it reminded
me of one of the many are strung and get
any I don't know, laws of social physics or whatever
things that we've come across over the years. The fact
that you can point out the strength of a racial
group or ethnic group or whatever, or really any group.
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You can point out their strengths as divided out from
other people, but not the weaknesses. And it makes no
sense whatsoever that any group could have only positives and
no negatives. I mean, that doesn't make sense on any
face of it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No, you want another layer of irony if you were
to say, because you didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Say that group has high home or owner owner high
home owner rates less, crime gets divorced less. But if
there's a negative stat you can't say that out louder.
You're in trouble. Well, so here's the extra load of
irony for time.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Can't dry for instance, and particularly in particularly if if
you were to suggest that sort of thing, even a
positive I remember, if you were to suggest that, yeah,
Indian kids, you know, they work really hard and they
value education. And you weren't even supposed to say that,
because that reduces the individual to just his group.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And that's ugly. That's a stereo tap type.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Even positive stereotypes are a racism and wrong. And then
the woke crowd came along and took over the left
and they're like, everybody is the stereotype of the race.
All white people are evil white supremacists, all black.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
People are victims. There are no individuals.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You will not be judged on your individual achievements or
efforts or character.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You will be painted with the color of your race. Period.
And that was the Left again. But the new Left. Yeah,
I wish I could talk about this more, but I can't.
Would end our careers.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
And people so weak and stupid that they they really
they ought.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
To be at the end of the leash that their
dog is holding.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
People so damn stupid they couldn't recognize what was going
on selford all. And they're sick in our nation's universities
and schools and blue towns.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, indeed, they believe every word of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And when the new new Left comes along and utterly
contradicts that but yells at them a little bit, they'll
go along with that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Next man man the Irish. The Irish can't drive. And
I said it out loud. The Armstrong and Getdy Show, Yeah,
morshack your show.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
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Speaker 3 (13:43):
And my son got My thirteen year old got braces yesterday,
and I was wondering what percentage of kids get braces
in the modern world. As we decided at some point
that everybody needs to have perfectly straight teeth, and they
need to be as bright as the sun in terms
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of whiteness. That's what we decided. It's if you watch
a movie from the nineties, all the actors like not
bright white teeth are just kind of you know, John
Travolta's got kind of yellowish.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Teeth, like people have normal colored teeth. Yeah, it's striking,
and I love this. This is my favorite aspect of
modern movies. If the you got a movie it's a Western,
it's set in eighteen forty and you got a character
who's a town drunk who's dying of consumption.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He's still got gleaming white teeth.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
About seventy percent of kids in the US currently get
some sort of orthodonic treatment, braces being the number one,
and at least a third or only a third truly
need braces in the trade sense, like it would be
a quality of life situation if you didn't get your
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teeth straightened out. It's it's cosmetic in other words, for
two thirds of them, which you know, if we've decided,
you know, I had a person really berating me for
the fact that I hadn't got my son braces yet yet.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Uh, if we've decided that you gotta have straight teeth?
Is that kind of like.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We use the example of the cracked phone screen, that's
like the modern day missing tooth, and that's because nobody's
missing teeth anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So, uh, are you are?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Are you really setting yourself aside as you can't be
part of even mid level or above society if you
didn't get your teeth straightened.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know what it's like out there. I have
straight teeth just naturally, so I don't know what it
would be like. I don't know how self conscious I
would be. Lots of people had crooked teeth when I
was younger, but like every kid has braces, and also socioeconomically,
depending on your you know, your social strata.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The higher you go up the income, the more. It's
like one hundred.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Percent of the kids get bracelest for even mildly crooked teeth,
according to this article, hence the social pressure. Sure right, yeah,
so it's kind of self reinforcing. I'll be in Britain
next week, so boy, well that'll be interesting. Yeah, it's
it's it's it's it is interesting that that is it's
not uniformly a Western society thing. I mean, a United
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States that leads the way in like needing to have
perfectly straight teeth for cosmetic reasons. And it's expensive and painful,
but yet we do it, and I just find it interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know, we did it, I'm doing it. Yeah, that's
it's a conundrum.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean, if you were a real activist, you'd say,
all right, this is an artificially imposed social norm, a
status Norman eminence front is Pete Townsend who just turned
eighty of the who Pete Townsend of the who is
eighty lord? Anyway as he would put it. But if
indeed it is a barrier to achievement, acceptance stating whatever
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certain relationships.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, and are you gonna die on that hill? As
people like to say, far as we can?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And that's not even that. Am I gonna have my
kid die on that hill? Because it's not me's who's
living with it? Right, So that's what every parent is
dealing with. But it's expensive. Men, IM shocked by the price.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Yo, Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Getty Show to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
To the former Border Patrol.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Grand Pooba twenty sixth Chief of the United States Border Patrol.
Now retired, Jason Owens joins the Armstrong in Getty's Show
this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Jason, how are you today?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Good Jack, I've never been called a grand puba before.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Thank you for that, the big cheese. So what years
were you the guy in charge? So I was.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I was the Chief of the Border Patrol from the
summer of twenty three until March of twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Okay, what do you know what the history is of
our border enforcement? I mean, did we used to have
much stricter border enforcement and people just chose not to come,
or or did the economics change to where people want
to come across and so we now we need more
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border agents.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I actually don't know that. I know the whole dynamic
has changed.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
It's not just about the traffic that we're seeing, but
it's about the public's awareness and attention to the issue.
That the border has always been an issue in some
form or fashion. It's just that we didn't pay as
much attention to it. You know, back in the nineties
when I started, you know, the Border Patrol was a
small agency that not many people knew about. We only
had a few thousand agents and predominantly focused on immigration
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along the southwest border with Mexico. Nobody really gave any
thought to the economic migration. Most of the folks came
from Mexico. They'd come up and they'd try and find work,
they'd center emittances home and during the holidays they'd go
back home visit their family, and then they'd try again
as soon as the holidays were over. And that's really
the extent of you know, what was border security during
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that time and throughout the agents. We've had those surges
where we've had very busy times. And I'm sure you
know being out there in California, you know, back in
the nineties, San Diego was incredibly busy, But it was
a different demographic that was crossing then. It was a
very different mission because nine to eleven hadn't happened yet,
and our awareness of the threats that are out there
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didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
In what way was it a different demographic that was
crossing back then versus down Well, like I.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Said, predominantly had a lot of folks from Mexico and
they were mostly single adult males. They were coming forth
to find jobs in the US and send money back home,
and they would go home to their families. Well, over
time that started to shift because people started to see that, well,
the situation got a little bit rougher in Mexico. You
had people from Central and South America that were interested
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in coming up as well, and people started to see
that it was more difficult for us to remove people
from the country if they didn't come from Mexico. Most
of the time, if you caught Jason Owens from Mexico
and you said, hey, do you want to go before
an immigration judge and see if you're going to be
deported or if you can stay here, most of the
time they would say, you know what, I'm going to
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voluntarily return and skip all of that, knowing that it
is probably going to turn right around and try and
cross again, and eventually that they made it because of
the sheer. You know how big the border is and
how few agents we had. Well, you can't do that
with folks from other countries, because Mexico is an or
no obligation to take those folks back if they're not
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citizens of Mexico, and we don't have those those processes
and procedures in place with these other countries. In many
cases and in many cases it's a lot more expensive
than just walking them across the border to the authorities
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Also, there is no place in the country you're going
to get free healthcare as someone here illegally not that
many years ago, and now you can. So there are
different magnets rather than just jobs. Well, also, didn't have
anything like fentanyl or meth way back in the day.
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How much different has that made the drugs that are
available in our appetite for them here in the United States.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, and talking about how the dynamic has changed along
the border, make no mistake about it. The cartels control
everything that's coming across illicitly across our borders.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And that's whether that's.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
People, whether that's you know, ilicitus substances, whether that's money,
you name it. And so back in the again in
the early two thousands and nineties, and you know, it
was all about marijuana, and you had cocaine, and you
had some meth cases and the like and heroin. Those
are the traditional narcotics that we would come across. And
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of course, you know, the world's view on marijuana has changed,
and so the cartels adapted and they look for the
next best thing because at the end of the day,
there's a business and they're looking at how can I
make money off of you know what it is I'm
doing well, they took a pivot to two things. Number One,
fentnel started becoming much more prominent because of how potent
it is and how easy it is to make comparatively.
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And then also they got into the people business. They
got into human trafficking because for the longest time, there
was not as much risk associated. People would be a
little more sympathetic to folks that were smuggling people across
the border than they would somebody bringing across kilos of cocaine,
and so they shifted to the product that was going
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to be in more demand and where they stood to
make the most money with less risk. That's officially been
with the cartel's business model has been and how it
has impacted the dynamic along particularly the southwest border.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's interesting. So that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But you say the cartel, nothing's really happening without their approval,
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And there's different ones that are out there. And if
you talk to anybody in the national security space, especially
with CDP and Border patrol, they will tell you that
that is our true adversary. The smugglers, the criminals, the
cartel members, those are the ones that we face off
against every single day, and when we go out.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
There to help secure the border, that is who we
have in mind.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
The immigration issue, it's an important one. We have to
have law and order, but the national security aspect of
border security is really what is first and foremost on
our minds because that represents by far the greatest threat
to our country.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And the Mexican go just can't get control of those cartels.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Apparently, it's a tough situation. They You know, if you
think about an adversary like the cartels, that the amount
of money that they make. And I'll use Del Rio
sector in Texas as an example, because I was the
I was the sector chief there before I took over
as chief of the Border Patrol. And that's a that's
a pretty remote, small sector. And of course, back a
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couple of years ago, that was front and center with
Eagle Pass and you've all the and the Haiti the
Haitian migration. Well that little sector just off of human
trafficking alone, we estimated that the cartels were pocketing upwards
of thirty thirty five million dollars a week. Wow, you
do the you do the math, and that's not narcotics.
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That's nothing but human smuggling in one sector of nine
across the southwest border, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
For and again my Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Math that that's over one point five billion dollars a
year and one sector that they're making. So you're talking
about an adversary that is well funded, unlimited resources, and
nothing but time to sit there and think about how
they're going to defeat whatever security measures we have in place.
And part of that is destabilizing the communities and the
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governments in Mexico so that they can maintain a foothold
and keep an advantage. And that's been a persistent problem
for our partners over in Mexico for for years.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, it's a very gentle way of saying it destabilize
the communities, as in, if you're the cops in that town,
you're going to die if you try to take them on.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
And I would have conversations with my counterparts these they
would be the Satana generals, or they would be the
colonels over some are and they would tell you it's
not that we don't want to respond or we don't
want to help out. It's just that the life we're
living down here is very different.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
They literally deal with at times gun battles in the streets,
people that are being murdered, dismembered. There are legitimate threats
to their families, and they go out there and do
the job. So you have to you have to respect
and empathize with the situation that they're in. So I
don't always buy into, Oh, it's just it's just a
matter of corruption. No, There's there's a lot of factors
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that get taken into account and that I think any
of us in that situation would be faced with.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, culturally, that's why we've got to hang on to
our culture of not having very much corruption, because man,
once you lose that, it's tough to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's rough.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
So talking about it, talking about the border, when we
just say the border, we all assume the border between
US and Mexico, but you say, there's a lot more
going on between the United States and Canada, now the
longest unde defended border in the world.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
It was always funny to me every time I would
talk to a member of Congress or staffers or in
many cases reporters, and it still didn't get covered as
much as I would have liked. People forget, Yeah, yes,
there's about two thousand miles between US and Mexico, but
there's four thousand miles a border between US and Canada
if you don't count that vertical slash that Alaska shares,
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which is another fifteen hundred miles. And oh, by the way,
we have thousands of miles of coast and most people
don't think about it in these terms. We actually share
a border, a coastal border with Russia because of Alaska.
So we have some legitimate things to think about in
vulnerabilities that exist along our multiple borders and the threats
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both state and non state actors that are out there.
And I think that deserves a space and the discussion
anytime we're talking about national security and especially border security,
because if you're going to resource an agency that's responsible
for keeping us safe, you have to take into account
all that they're responsible for, and not just one piece
that the mainstream media wants to focus on.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
What percentage of border patrol is on the southern border
versus the northern border.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you have any idea?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Typically about ninety percent of our workforce is deployed on
the southwest border, so if you can, you can do
the matt roughly twenty thousand agents depending on.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The season that we're in. You know, you have ninety percent.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Deployed down to the southwest border and the rest are
on the northern border, our coastal sectors and in many
cases overseas and our offices.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah. Man, if it ever becomes a real problem, or
maybe you're saying it already is of things coming across
the Canadian border.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I remember when I drove into Calgary one time.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I was headed up to Calgary, just crossing on a
two lane highway in the middle of nowhere. There's basically
nothing there. Showed them a driver's license and drove in.
That's all there was to it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
How many drugs are coming across the Canadian border at
this point? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, and that's that's the million dollar question, so to speak.
That we get asked a lot of times what's getting away.
There's what we catch, and that's between us and the
Office of Field Operations that works at the ports of entry.
Ours is the job between the ports of entry. So
there's what we actually catch. What we may see and
are not a to get to. But then there's that
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great void, that great unknown and that exists even along
the Southwest border that a lot of people don't realize
as well. There's so much of the border that we
don't have persistent surveillance. We don't know what's coming across
or what's going on because we're not out there and
we don't have the technology in today's age, it's hard
to imagine that there's actually still areas out there where
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there's no cell coverage, there's no reception, and you need
that for the technology to be effected. So there's a
lot of spaces out there we don't have that situational awareness,
and so we can't tell you with any level of
certainty what's coming across, what's getting away. And that's one
of the things I always said. It keeps us up
at night. It worries is because we know the potential
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and you don't want to have something like that happen
on your watch.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, man, that is true.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Jason Owen's twenty six chief of the United States Border Patrol.
Appreciate your time today as very interesting stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Good talk to you, Jack, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You bet you Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and
Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Over the weekend, the rapper known as four Extra lost
two fingers in a fireworks accident. He's now changed his
name to three Left. The good news is he's no
longer throwing up gang signs.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You know, I saw that first punchline coming, but I
enjoyed it a lot. Three Left and get it and
be careful with fireworks, kids, gender matting Madden.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
This update coming up next segment.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
But first, a handful of consumer oriented stories that I
found intriguing and or amusing. Street journal reporting vanity sizing
is forcing petit women into kids' clothes, aging styles, and
the supersizing of apparel is pushing shoppers to unusual lengths
to find something that fits. And the subheadline is so
much glitter, Yeah you better like sparkles. Yeah, the petit
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women who have you know, been forced to go for
children's sizes because the American girth has been increasing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
More on that in a moment, but everybody knows this right.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
The apparel industry for years has been employing vanity sizing,
making clothes larger and larger while keeping the sizes the same,
making matters worse for some slender shoppers. Is a current
fashioned woman in which oversized looks are in vogue. The
result clothes so big that slender people are swimming in them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, I know you with young people, they're all wearing
super giant, baggy clothes. This gallows five to fives.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Try petite clothing, but because those fits are designed for
shorter people, the shirt sleeves stop above wrists and the
genes don't even graze her ankles. Children's clothes fit better,
but the styles aren't sophisticated. Too many flowers and so
much glitter. Final note on this, The average American woman
weighs about one hundred and seventy pounds, which is thirty
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pounds more than she did in nineteen sixty. According to
the National Center for Health Statistics, average is one seventy
That is correct? Is that average or median? Because if
there's like one fifty thousand pound woman, that's why it's
like the Bill Gates walks into a bar, thing right
your net worth, your average networth, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Bill Gates could walk into a bar and change the
average in net worth a fifty thousand pound woman is
not going to roll into the bar or probably the buffet. No,
oh my, that was insensitive, and she was presently thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
She needs some tough talk. Look at yourself when you
hit thirty thousand, didn't you think you know? I got
to change something. This is terrible. There's something terribly wrong here.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Because the average height for a woman is five to three,
So if we're averaging at one seventy, that seems pretty portly.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that sounds high to me.
That sounds really you arguing with the name National Center
for Health Statistics. I guess I am, But that just
that sounds high to me. There's a lot more to
get to, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The Brazilian butt lift surgery is a procedure that enhances
the size and shape of someone's rear ends through a
fat transfer.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't I know what, I've had two of them.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It's often considered a dangerous procedure by experts since there's
a possibility of death, infection, and more. I would restructure
that sentence. Once you have death. Infection is kind of irrelevant, right,
but more the more. But this popular and freaking stupid surgery,
do you seriously think having a bigger butt is going
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to materially change your life.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's better. It's for bigger or higher you lift. It's both,
it's both. I'd like mine higher. It makes it not
only higher.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Not only is BBL surgery risky, there's one bizarre, rather
gross side effect that comes along that the potential patients
should consider.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's called the BBL smell, and it is real. So
this doctor, what?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
There's often a smell expected for BBL patients after sweating
or sitting for long periods, an aggressive scent.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Because I'm guessing because you have crevasses. No, no, uh.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
There are uh tissue deaths, which is a BBL complication
and unhygienic habits that could cause someone with BBBL to
have a smelly b Huh.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
This is the worst thing you ever done, by a lot. Yeah,
We're done, horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I am issuing an important warning to people who might
fall prey to this insidious procedure. If a patient was
quote overfilled with fat during the procedure, fat necrosis, which
is when faty tissue in the butt dies, can occur
as a result of RADSID smell develops.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I imagine you smell like a dead body.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yes, infections that need antibiotics, hospitalizations, and even that leads
to sepsis.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, well, this has been a treat, Thanks Joe. What
is that coloni you're wearing? Black plague? Is that dead raccoon? No,
that's my BBL surgery gone wrong.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I'm telling you, ladies, Oh beautiful, the way you are
all right, God.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You gotta wear the kids clothes and you smell like
a dead body, and things are going well for you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
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The writer Kurt Vonnegut, who I'm a big fan of,
said that the semi colon said of the semi colon,
it's showy. It's chiefly used to show you've been to college.
More than two thirds of young Americans say they know
how to use it. About the same number test prove
actually don't. That's pretty funny. Two thirds of people say
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they know how to use a semon colan two thirds.
Actually don't. Kurt Vonnegett says, you only use it to
show you've been to college. That's pretty funny, you know what.
I actually use it semi frequently. It to me takes
the same role, has the same role as like dot,
(01:40):
it's it's it's well.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
I've heard it described as a soft period, stronger than
a comma, but not quite the full stop of a period.
I have a big meeting tomorrow, semi colon. I need
to prepare tonight.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Less cramping. Oh, you're an idiot.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
So my dot, which I'm a big fan of, is
basically using a semi coolon. Yeah, yeah, okay, I think
so that's fantastic. So I did want to talk about this.
This is actually important. So the stat from a week
or so ago really got my attention. Consumer spending is
doing okay, pretty good, hanging in there, because when consumer
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spending goes, the economy collapses, because two thirds of our
economy is consumer spending. But right now, half of consumer
spending is just the top ten percent. So the burden
of consumer spending is being is on a small number
of people.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
M I find myself wondering, what's the usual percentage. That's
the top ten percent actions. I actually they have more money.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Yeah yeah, I actually had that, and I don't remember
what it was, but it was significantly significant change. Okay,
because I wondered that too. I'll have to look that
stet up because that is important to the whole thing.
But so this news out of that is not that surprising.
While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch.
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There is something called the Michigan Index, which I've heard
before whenever you get into this topic. It's a common
and well respected consumer sentiment gauge that.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Factors in a bunch of different things.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
The Michigan Index, anyway, consumer sentiment was at seventy not
that long ago. In the summer, it collapsed. It's down
to fifty five, where the number one hundred signals neutral
feelings on the economy. When you're at one hundred, you're
just like, Eh, it's okay, and it's not great, it's
(03:40):
not bad.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
Below that, you're mostly negative. But it went from seventy,
which was already somewhat negative, to fifty five for the
middle class. Economic anxiety as running particularly strong among lower
and middle income consumers, and it fell off a cliff
(04:03):
this summer higher income Americans, And for this study, they're
calling anybody that makes more than one hundred thousand a year.
You make one hundred and one thousand dollars a year
in the Bay Area, you do not consider yourself a
higher income individual. Probably they have buoyant sentiments. I rarely
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describe myself as Hey, Joe, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Buoyant? I'm gonna start doing that more often. You should.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
How's it going buoyant? Af I'll say, But in June,
middle class confidence gave out and the index went down
a lot. And this concern is economists. Course, everything concerns economists,
and they disagree on everything.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
But that doesn't surprise me. Really, things are still expensive.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, uh well, And as I've said before, doesn't everything
just feel a little precarious?
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yes, yes, it does. Well if you're you know, you
follow the stock market at all. My life experience is
when it's setting records, like every other day, there's a
correction coming. Like my dad, who's been retired for quite
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some time, says I've lost everything. I've half of everything
I've got like three times since I retired. I mean
it happens now and then where you get the big correction.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
And the correction isn't going to be like the gentle
parenting craze. It's going to be more like an angry
Catholic school nun in nineteen fifty. Okay, the ruler is
going to come down with a resounding smack.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
God, dang it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Have you all looked at your four to oh one k?
I rarely do. I just had to for some form
the other day. I looked at my phone kind of like,
holy crap. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised with
the stock market constantly set in records and it's pretty
tied into that, but eh, yeah, should.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
I a hardcore long term investor guy.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
If you miss the drop by a day and the
rally by a day, you will lose out on an
enormous amount of wealth. That's why you just thrie it out.
On the other hand, I look at what's going on
right now, and I think, oh God, cash out, cash out,
just cash out now, cash out my gold bars or bitcoiner,
(06:29):
doge coiner game stop stock? Is that still going on?
Speaker 3 (06:34):
I don't know, gold bars, Maybe that's the answer. This
is breaking news Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who spoke
on the phone with the Prime Minister of Qatar and
apologized for violating Qatar's sovereignty in the strike on Doha
(06:54):
and expressed regret for the killing of a Katari security
guard while they were taking out the various Home Oth leaders.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
There. See, everybody's fine, now.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Nen Ya, who's sitting with the president at right as
we are. I wonder if that was that part of
the deal. Trump said, you gotta call him, apologize, tell
him you're sorry, tell him you're sorry and mean it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Someday.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
I wish they would release the Trump Net and Yahoo
tapes like they did the Nixon tapes. I don't know
if there are tapes, but you know, like after the
Katario attack, the word was Trump just let him up.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
He yelled at him.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
But then they subsequently, whether it was a couple hours
later or the next day, had a very good column
productive chat. So they've obviously got a couple of alpha male,
hot tempered yelling at each other, you know, a relationship.
I'd love to hear it someday or just read the transcripts,
(07:51):
but I don't know if that'll ever.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Ask Semi colon that would all be amusing, agreed.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
An anti ice protester in Massachusetts forgot to put her
car in park while yelling at agents making interest of
an illegal alien, and her car rolled into a lake
and sunk.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
That's disappointed, tells Fox News.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
It happened Upton at Massachusett's a small, very blue town
in Blue Worcester County, forty miles west of Boston, and
a clip of voice can be heard saying, well, that sucks.
Look at that, Lucy her car got lost. As the
woman's car drifts further into the water.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Had a lesson for all of us. Oh, that reminds me.
I was practicing driving with my son yesterday. We were
driving around on county highways in his truck as he
is coming up on getting his license, and so I
took him over to a friend's house and a Saturday night,
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and his friend, who is a few months older than him,
has his license now, and I saw him pull up
and it was just like it was I'm sure you've
had this experience, just so. It was so weird to
see this kid that I've known since he was in
kindergar driving a car.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's like, well, I know he's sure, this is all right,
this is really.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Times change, people grow. Hey do you guys have a
student driver on your on your bumper a little sign?
Oh no, I don't. Can you get those? Are you
supposed to have those? I guess? I mean I don't.
Does it carry any legal weight? Do you get any?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
You get me? It doesn't care legal weight. But I
appreciate it. Honestly.
Speaker 4 (09:29):
If I'm on a city thoroughfare where nobody ever goes
the speed limit, and somebody's going the speed limit and
I say patience, please, student driver, I see that.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
You're oh, okay, got it, got it, got it? Yep.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
I won't get up on Not that I would like
dangerously tailgate anyway, but I get it.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
So cool, You're cool. I'll just call it.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
I do.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
I pull around in front of my brake, check him.
Then I roll coal on them.
Speaker 5 (09:50):
I do.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
I'll do everything you drive them from me, not rolling coal.
But yeah, that happened to me just the other day.
I was was that a weird four way stop situation?
And I said, what is that person doing? And Sam
said they got the student drivers sticker? And I was like, oh, okay, Yeah,
they're trying to figure it out. And yeah, my patients
went way way, way up right.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I shouldn't have screamed, go you f fing mf or
I if i'd seen the sign, I wouldn't have.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You know, my son, I think figured out the other day.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
We were having a conversation about a particular group of
people that seemed to struggle with driving.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Oh, and I think he came upon this realization. And no, no, no, no, no,
he was.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He's very aware of it. He's very aware of the
existence of this. And I won't say why, but I
think he figured out why. And it's always been a mystery.
Why does this particular group of people struggle with driving
so much when they seem to excel at other things.
I won't I won't name the group, but I've got
a great punchline. But it would end our careers today,
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and I can't. I can't explain why. But it reminded
me of one of the many are strung and get
any I don't know, laws of social physics or whatever
things that we've come across over the years. The fact
that you can point out the strength of a racial
group or ethnic group or whatever, or really any group.
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You can point out their strengths as divided out from
other people, but not the weaknesses. And it makes no
sense whatsoever that any group could have only positives and
no negatives. I mean, that doesn't make sense on any
face of it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No, you want another layer of irony if you were
to say, because you didn't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Say that group has high home or owner owner high
home owner rates less, crime gets divorced less. But if
there's a negative stat you can't say that out louder.
You're in trouble. Well, so here's the extra load of
irony for time.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Can't dry for instance, and particularly in particularly if if
you were to suggest that sort of thing, even a
positive I remember, if you were to suggest that, yeah,
Indian kids, you know, they work really hard and they
value education. And you weren't even supposed to say that,
because that reduces the individual to just his group.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
And that's ugly. That's a stereo tap type.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
Even positive stereotypes are a racism and wrong. And then
the woke crowd came along and took over the left
and they're like, everybody is the stereotype of the race.
All white people are evil white supremacists, all black.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
People are victims. There are no individuals.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
You will not be judged on your individual achievements or
efforts or character.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
You will be painted with the color of your race. Period.
And that was the Left again. But the new Left. Yeah,
I wish I could talk about this more, but I can't.
Would end our careers.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
And people so weak and stupid that they they really
they ought.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
To be at the end of the leash that their
dog is holding.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
People so damn stupid they couldn't recognize what was going
on selford all. And they're sick in our nation's universities
and schools and blue towns.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Yes, indeed, they believe every word of it.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
And when the new new Left comes along and utterly
contradicts that but yells at them a little bit, they'll
go along with that.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Next man man the Irish. The Irish can't drive. And
I said it out loud. The Armstrong and Getdy Show, Yeah,
morshack your show.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Podcasts and our hot links, the Armstrong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And my son got My thirteen year old got braces yesterday,
and I was wondering what percentage of kids get braces
in the modern world. As we decided at some point
that everybody needs to have perfectly straight teeth, and they
need to be as bright as the sun in terms
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of whiteness. That's what we decided. It's if you watch
a movie from the nineties, all the actors like not
bright white teeth are just kind of you know, John
Travolta's got kind of yellowish.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
Teeth, like people have normal colored teeth. Yeah, it's striking,
and I love this. This is my favorite aspect of
modern movies. If the you got a movie it's a Western,
it's set in eighteen forty and you got a character
who's a town drunk who's dying of consumption.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
He's still got gleaming white teeth.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Right.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
About seventy percent of kids in the US currently get
some sort of orthodonic treatment, braces being the number one,
and at least a third or only a third truly
need braces in the trade sense, like it would be
a quality of life situation if you didn't get your
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teeth straightened out. It's it's cosmetic in other words, for
two thirds of them, which you know, if we've decided,
you know, I had a person really berating me for
the fact that I hadn't got my son braces yet yet.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Uh, if we've decided that you gotta have straight teeth?
Is that kind of like.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
We use the example of the cracked phone screen, that's
like the modern day missing tooth, and that's because nobody's
missing teeth anymore.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
So, uh, are you are?
Speaker 3 (15:37):
Are you really setting yourself aside as you can't be
part of even mid level or above society if you
didn't get your teeth straightened.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
I don't know what it's like out there. I have
straight teeth just naturally, so I don't know what it
would be like. I don't know how self conscious I
would be. Lots of people had crooked teeth when I
was younger, but like every kid has braces, and also socioeconomically,
depending on your you know, your social strata.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
The higher you go up the income, the more. It's
like one hundred.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Percent of the kids get bracelest for even mildly crooked teeth,
according to this article, hence the social pressure. Sure right, yeah,
so it's kind of self reinforcing. I'll be in Britain
next week, so boy, well that'll be interesting. Yeah, it's
it's it's it's it is interesting that that is it's
not uniformly a Western society thing. I mean, a United
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States that leads the way in like needing to have
perfectly straight teeth for cosmetic reasons. And it's expensive and painful,
but yet we do it, and I just find it interesting.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You know, we did it, I'm doing it. Yeah, that's
it's a conundrum.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I mean, if you were a real activist, you'd say,
all right, this is an artificially imposed social norm, a
status Norman eminence front is Pete Townsend who just turned
eighty of the who Pete Townsend of the who is
eighty lord? Anyway as he would put it. But if
indeed it is a barrier to achievement, acceptance stating whatever
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certain relationships.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
Yeah, and are you gonna die on that hill? As
people like to say, far as we can?
Speaker 3 (17:18):
And that's not even that. Am I gonna have my
kid die on that hill? Because it's not me's who's
living with it? Right, So that's what every parent is
dealing with. But it's expensive. Men, IM shocked by the price.
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Yo, Jack Armstrong and Joe The Armstrong and Getty Show,
The Armstrong and Getty Show to talk.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
To the former Border Patrol.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Grand Pooba twenty sixth Chief of the United States Border Patrol.
Now retired, Jason Owens joins the Armstrong in Getty's Show
this morning.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Jason, how are you today?
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Good Jack, I've never been called a grand puba before.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Thank you for that, the big cheese. So what years
were you the guy in charge? So I was.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I was the Chief of the Border Patrol from the
summer of twenty three until March of twenty five.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Okay, what do you know what the history is of
our border enforcement? I mean, did we used to have
much stricter border enforcement and people just chose not to come,
or or did the economics change to where people want
to come across and so we now we need more
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border agents.
Speaker 2 (18:38):
I actually don't know that. I know the whole dynamic
has changed.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
It's not just about the traffic that we're seeing, but
it's about the public's awareness and attention to the issue.
That the border has always been an issue in some
form or fashion. It's just that we didn't pay as
much attention to it. You know, back in the nineties
when I started, you know, the Border Patrol was a
small agency that not many people knew about. We only
had a few thousand agents and predominantly focused on immigration
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along the southwest border with Mexico. Nobody really gave any
thought to the economic migration. Most of the folks came
from Mexico. They'd come up and they'd try and find work,
they'd center emittances home and during the holidays they'd go
back home visit their family, and then they'd try again
as soon as the holidays were over. And that's really
the extent of you know, what was border security during
(19:28):
that time and throughout the agents. We've had those surges
where we've had very busy times. And I'm sure you
know being out there in California, you know, back in
the nineties, San Diego was incredibly busy, But it was
a different demographic that was crossing then. It was a
very different mission because nine to eleven hadn't happened yet,
and our awareness of the threats that are out there
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didn't exist.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
In what way was it a different demographic that was
crossing back then versus down Well, like I.
Speaker 6 (19:55):
Said, predominantly had a lot of folks from Mexico and
they were mostly single adult males. They were coming forth
to find jobs in the US and send money back home,
and they would go home to their families. Well, over
time that started to shift because people started to see that, well,
the situation got a little bit rougher in Mexico. You
had people from Central and South America that were interested
(20:19):
in coming up as well, and people started to see
that it was more difficult for us to remove people
from the country if they didn't come from Mexico. Most
of the time, if you caught Jason Owens from Mexico
and you said, hey, do you want to go before
an immigration judge and see if you're going to be
deported or if you can stay here, most of the
time they would say, you know what, I'm going to
(20:40):
voluntarily return and skip all of that, knowing that it
is probably going to turn right around and try and
cross again, and eventually that they made it because of
the sheer. You know how big the border is and
how few agents we had. Well, you can't do that
with folks from other countries, because Mexico is an or
no obligation to take those folks back if they're not
(21:02):
citizens of Mexico, and we don't have those those processes
and procedures in place with these other countries. In many
cases and in many cases it's a lot more expensive
than just walking them across the border to the authorities
in Mexico.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Also, there is no place in the country you're going
to get free healthcare as someone here illegally not that
many years ago, and now you can. So there are
different magnets rather than just jobs. Well, also, didn't have
anything like fentanyl or meth way back in the day.
(21:35):
How much different has that made the drugs that are
available in our appetite for them here in the United States.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
Well, and talking about how the dynamic has changed along
the border, make no mistake about it. The cartels control
everything that's coming across illicitly across our borders.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
And that's whether that's.
Speaker 6 (21:53):
People, whether that's you know, ilicitus substances, whether that's money,
you name it. And so back in the again in
the early two thousands and nineties, and you know, it
was all about marijuana, and you had cocaine, and you
had some meth cases and the like and heroin. Those
are the traditional narcotics that we would come across. And
(22:14):
of course, you know, the world's view on marijuana has changed,
and so the cartels adapted and they look for the
next best thing because at the end of the day,
there's a business and they're looking at how can I
make money off of you know what it is I'm
doing well, they took a pivot to two things. Number One,
fentnel started becoming much more prominent because of how potent
it is and how easy it is to make comparatively.
(22:38):
And then also they got into the people business. They
got into human trafficking because for the longest time, there
was not as much risk associated. People would be a
little more sympathetic to folks that were smuggling people across
the border than they would somebody bringing across kilos of cocaine,
and so they shifted to the product that was going
(22:59):
to be in more demand and where they stood to
make the most money with less risk. That's officially been
with the cartel's business model has been and how it
has impacted the dynamic along particularly the southwest border.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
That's interesting. So that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
But you say the cartel, nothing's really happening without their approval,
Absolutely not.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
And there's different ones that are out there. And if
you talk to anybody in the national security space, especially
with CDP and Border patrol, they will tell you that
that is our true adversary. The smugglers, the criminals, the
cartel members, those are the ones that we face off
against every single day, and when we go out.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
There to help secure the border, that is who we
have in mind.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
The immigration issue, it's an important one. We have to
have law and order, but the national security aspect of
border security is really what is first and foremost on
our minds because that represents by far the greatest threat
to our country.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
And the Mexican go just can't get control of those cartels.
Speaker 6 (24:02):
Apparently, it's a tough situation. They You know, if you
think about an adversary like the cartels, that the amount
of money that they make. And I'll use Del Rio
sector in Texas as an example, because I was the
I was the sector chief there before I took over
as chief of the Border Patrol. And that's a that's
a pretty remote, small sector. And of course, back a
(24:25):
couple of years ago, that was front and center with
Eagle Pass and you've all the and the Haiti the
Haitian migration. Well that little sector just off of human
trafficking alone, we estimated that the cartels were pocketing upwards
of thirty thirty five million dollars a week. Wow, you
do the you do the math, and that's not narcotics.
(24:45):
That's nothing but human smuggling in one sector of nine
across the southwest border, you know.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
For and again my Oklahoma.
Speaker 6 (24:55):
Math that that's over one point five billion dollars a
year and one sector that they're making. So you're talking
about an adversary that is well funded, unlimited resources, and
nothing but time to sit there and think about how
they're going to defeat whatever security measures we have in place.
And part of that is destabilizing the communities and the
(25:16):
governments in Mexico so that they can maintain a foothold
and keep an advantage. And that's been a persistent problem
for our partners over in Mexico for for years.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
Yeah, it's a very gentle way of saying it destabilize
the communities, as in, if you're the cops in that town,
you're going to die if you try to take them on.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
And I would have conversations with my counterparts these they
would be the Satana generals, or they would be the
colonels over some are and they would tell you it's
not that we don't want to respond or we don't
want to help out. It's just that the life we're
living down here is very different.
Speaker 7 (25:51):
You know.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
They literally deal with at times gun battles in the streets,
people that are being murdered, dismembered. There are legitimate threats
to their families, and they go out there and do
the job. So you have to you have to respect
and empathize with the situation that they're in. So I
don't always buy into, Oh, it's just it's just a
matter of corruption. No, There's there's a lot of factors
(26:13):
that get taken into account and that I think any
of us in that situation would be faced with.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, culturally, that's why we've got to hang on to
our culture of not having very much corruption, because man,
once you lose that, it's tough to turn it around.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
That's rough.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
So talking about it, talking about the border, when we
just say the border, we all assume the border between
US and Mexico, but you say, there's a lot more
going on between the United States and Canada, now the
longest unde defended border in the world.
Speaker 6 (26:41):
It was always funny to me every time I would
talk to a member of Congress or staffers or in
many cases reporters, and it still didn't get covered as
much as I would have liked. People forget, Yeah, yes,
there's about two thousand miles between US and Mexico, but
there's four thousand miles a border between US and Canada
if you don't count that vertical slash that Alaska shares,
(27:04):
which is another fifteen hundred miles. And oh, by the way,
we have thousands of miles of coast and most people
don't think about it in these terms. We actually share
a border, a coastal border with Russia because of Alaska.
So we have some legitimate things to think about in
vulnerabilities that exist along our multiple borders and the threats
(27:25):
both state and non state actors that are out there.
And I think that deserves a space and the discussion
anytime we're talking about national security and especially border security,
because if you're going to resource an agency that's responsible
for keeping us safe, you have to take into account
all that they're responsible for, and not just one piece
that the mainstream media wants to focus on.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
What percentage of border patrol is on the southern border
versus the northern border.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
Do you have any idea?
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Typically about ninety percent of our workforce is deployed on
the southwest border, so if you can, you can do
the matt roughly twenty thousand agents depending on.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
The season that we're in. You know, you have ninety percent.
Speaker 6 (28:09):
Deployed down to the southwest border and the rest are
on the northern border, our coastal sectors and in many
cases overseas and our offices.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah. Man, if it ever becomes a real problem, or
maybe you're saying it already is of things coming across
the Canadian border.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
I remember when I drove into Calgary one time.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
I was headed up to Calgary, just crossing on a
two lane highway in the middle of nowhere. There's basically
nothing there. Showed them a driver's license and drove in.
That's all there was to it.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
How many drugs are coming across the Canadian border at
this point? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 6 (28:41):
Well, and that's that's the million dollar question, so to speak.
That we get asked a lot of times what's getting away.
There's what we catch, and that's between us and the
Office of Field Operations that works at the ports of entry.
Ours is the job between the ports of entry. So
there's what we actually catch. What we may see and
are not a to get to. But then there's that
(29:01):
great void, that great unknown and that exists even along
the Southwest border that a lot of people don't realize
as well. There's so much of the border that we
don't have persistent surveillance. We don't know what's coming across
or what's going on because we're not out there and
we don't have the technology in today's age, it's hard
to imagine that there's actually still areas out there where
(29:23):
there's no cell coverage, there's no reception, and you need
that for the technology to be effected. So there's a
lot of spaces out there we don't have that situational awareness,
and so we can't tell you with any level of
certainty what's coming across, what's getting away. And that's one
of the things I always said. It keeps us up
at night. It worries is because we know the potential
(29:46):
and you don't want to have something like that happen
on your watch.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, man, that is true.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
Jason Owen's twenty six chief of the United States Border Patrol.
Appreciate your time today as very interesting stuff.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Good talk to you, Jack, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
You bet you Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and
Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Over the weekend, the rapper known as four Extra lost
two fingers in a fireworks accident. He's now changed his
name to three Left. The good news is he's no
longer throwing up gang signs.
Speaker 4 (30:41):
You know, I saw that first punchline coming, but I
enjoyed it a lot. Three Left and get it and
be careful with fireworks, kids, gender matting Madden.
Speaker 2 (30:53):
This update coming up next segment.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
But first, a handful of consumer oriented stories that I
found intriguing and or amusing. Street journal reporting vanity sizing
is forcing petit women into kids' clothes, aging styles, and
the supersizing of apparel is pushing shoppers to unusual lengths
to find something that fits. And the subheadline is so
much glitter, Yeah you better like sparkles. Yeah, the petit
(31:19):
women who have you know, been forced to go for
children's sizes because the American girth has been increasing.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
More on that in a moment, but everybody knows this right.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
The apparel industry for years has been employing vanity sizing,
making clothes larger and larger while keeping the sizes the same,
making matters worse for some slender shoppers. Is a current
fashioned woman in which oversized looks are in vogue. The
result clothes so big that slender people are swimming in them.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Yeah, I know you with young people, they're all wearing
super giant, baggy clothes. This gallows five to fives.
Speaker 4 (31:55):
Try petite clothing, but because those fits are designed for
shorter people, the shirt sleeves stop above wrists and the
genes don't even graze her ankles. Children's clothes fit better,
but the styles aren't sophisticated. Too many flowers and so
much glitter. Final note on this, The average American woman
weighs about one hundred and seventy pounds, which is thirty
(32:17):
pounds more than she did in nineteen sixty. According to
the National Center for Health Statistics, average is one seventy
That is correct? Is that average or median? Because if
there's like one fifty thousand pound woman, that's why it's
like the Bill Gates walks into a bar, thing right
your net worth, your average networth, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Bill Gates could walk into a bar and change the
average in net worth a fifty thousand pound woman is
not going to roll into the bar or probably the buffet. No,
oh my, that was insensitive, and she was presently thousand pounds.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
She needs some tough talk. Look at yourself when you
hit thirty thousand, didn't you think you know? I got
to change something. This is terrible. There's something terribly wrong here.
Speaker 5 (33:05):
Because the average height for a woman is five to three,
So if we're averaging at one seventy, that seems pretty portly.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that sounds high to me.
That sounds really you arguing with the name National Center
for Health Statistics. I guess I am, But that just
that sounds high to me. There's a lot more to
get to, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
The Brazilian butt lift surgery is a procedure that enhances
the size and shape of someone's rear ends through a
fat transfer.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Don't I know what, I've had two of them.
Speaker 4 (33:43):
It's often considered a dangerous procedure by experts since there's
a possibility of death, infection, and more. I would restructure
that sentence. Once you have death. Infection is kind of irrelevant, right,
but more the more. But this popular and freaking stupid surgery,
do you seriously think having a bigger butt is going
(34:03):
to materially change your life.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
It's better. It's for bigger or higher you lift. It's both,
it's both. I'd like mine higher. It makes it not
only higher.
Speaker 4 (34:15):
Not only is BBL surgery risky, there's one bizarre, rather
gross side effect that comes along that the potential patients
should consider.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
It's called the BBL smell, and it is real. So
this doctor, what?
Speaker 6 (34:29):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (34:30):
There's often a smell expected for BBL patients after sweating
or sitting for long periods, an aggressive scent.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
Because I'm guessing because you have crevasses. No, no, uh.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
There are uh tissue deaths, which is a BBL complication
and unhygienic habits that could cause someone with BBBL to
have a smelly b Huh.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
This is the worst thing you ever done, by a lot. Yeah,
We're done, horrible.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
I am issuing an important warning to people who might
fall prey to this insidious procedure. If a patient was
quote overfilled with fat during the procedure, fat necrosis, which
is when faty tissue in the butt dies, can occur
as a result of RADSID smell develops.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Well, yeah, I imagine you smell like a dead body.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
Yes, infections that need antibiotics, hospitalizations, and even that leads
to sepsis.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Okay, well, this has been a treat, Thanks Joe. What
is that coloni you're wearing? Black plague? Is that dead raccoon? No,
that's my BBL surgery gone wrong.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
I'm telling you, ladies, Oh beautiful, the way you are
all right, God.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
You gotta wear the kids clothes and you smell like
a dead body, and things are going well for you.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
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Speaker 1 (36:04):
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