September 11, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour 1 of A&G features...
- 9/11/2001, grief, fundamental Islam & back to school
- Katie Green's Headlines!
- C.O.W. Clip of the Week & Joe fights with his chat bot
- Mailbag!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty. September 11th, 226, 2026.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We are Armstrong and Getty live from Studio C. C, senor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We are in a dimly lit room deeper than the
bowels of.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And today we are
toiling under the title of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Jack, I have been crunching news stories, headlines, opinions with
the speed of an AI system all morning long. And
my headline is the result of those crunchings. What are
the true lessons of 9-11? Let the argument begin.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm in a weird mood on this.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I have a long history of being way out of
step with the way people react to emotional stories. And
I'm finding myself highly annoyed by the coverage of the
anniversary of 9-11 today.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I was thinking about that. Um... And so Joe
and I didn't discuss this ahead of time, so he
might tell me I'm way out of line.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But I am just horrified at the rolling around in
grief that I'm hearing everywhere I turn about the anniversary
of 9-11. And what I'm thinking about is this. The
world is an ugly place. It's always been an ugly place.
It's always going to be an ugly place. The strong survive.
The weak don't. Would any of our enemies, if they
(01:52):
were attacked... by.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
An enemy that's still out there wanting to attack them.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be rolling around in grief about something like this, or
just so freaking angry and vowing revenge all day long
and plotting.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Their next move? Or picture China, picture any.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Of your, you know, Al-Qaeda, any of your fundamentalist Islam countries,
are they going to roll around in grief about this?
Or are they going to be shaking AK-47s a year saying,
you mother effers, we're going to come get you?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It would be an occasion for defiance and unity as
opposed to grief. Yeah, you may be a little out
of step, but not entirely. It takes all kinds. I
think there are several things happening here that influence that.
Number one, the New Yorkification of media and a lot
of those people actually lost loved ones, friends, coworkers, etc.
Different situation if your friends died. And so there's going
(02:48):
to be a little bit... over-emphasis, over-egging of that pudding
by the New York media, which I get. Secondly, we
now live in a time where being a victim is
the highest form of life in America, as we've discussed many,
many times, and everybody kind of encourages that sort of wallowing.
(03:08):
Everybody grieves differently, and I get that, but no, I
have been since I ran into work on September 11th,
since we were off that week, I have been of
your mind about this. Okay, this sort of thing happens
over and over in history. This is our time. This
(03:29):
is our thing. What needs to happen? But we tend
to be that sort of people.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, so I was debating that in my own mind
as I was thinking about this, because I'm listening to
this stuff thinking, this sounds soft and weak and whiny
to me, all of this coverage, as opposed to, you're
not doing that again? Don't try it again. You know, tough,
because you got to be tough to survive. Again, picture
any of our enemies wallowing in grief after we attack them,
(03:58):
as opposed to, F you, we're.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Coming at you. But I was thinking about that. Is
that why we're better than them? Is that why? Because
we are. We're a better society than our enemy.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We're a better society than communist Chinese, obviously a better
society than fundamentalist Islam.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So is it to our credit that we grieve the
way we do about the loss of life?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because they don't care about the loss of life, as
we've talked about many times. Hamas loves when, you know,
a dead Hamas kid is the best thing that can
happen for them. If they can get it on TV.
They don't care about the life. They care about the idea.
You know, Communist Party willing to expend millions of people.
You see what Putin does. He's willing to let millions
of guys just get mowed down over a stupid project.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So maybe it's to our credit that we care so
much about that? I don't know. Again, I'm debating this
in my head. Well, yeah, if I were to address
America as a single individual, I'd say that is one
of the very best things about us, that we cherish life.
although this is eroding lately. Stay tuned for how many
(04:59):
young voters think political violence or murder is justified. Anyway,
but it's our cherishing of life that is our guide
in so many things, so many laws and traditions and
the way we conduct warfare even. And it's a wonderful thing,
but every good quality can be overdone. And I think
(05:19):
what we're witnessing here is probably an example of that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
My current stance, and I can be talked out of it,
and a lot of it does have to do with
what you said, that most of the coverage comes out
of New York, and they had friends who died. Like,
practically everybody I've seen talk about it out of New
York either knew somebody who died or got hurt or
saw people dying. That's a different situation for those people.
But for everybody else, I think the reaction shouldn't be sadness.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Or grief? Just anger.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Are we doing everything we can to make sure it
doesn't happen again? Because here's the weird thing. This is
different than like going to the USS Arizona or Missouri
or what was the ship that got sick, sunk in
Pearl Harbor, Arizona. Well, quite a few of them, but
that's the big memorial.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That war's over and that enemy's gone. They're now an ally.
This war is not over. They're still alive and they're
still vowing and plotting to kill us. That's the big difference. Yes,
and they go by many different names, and anybody who
says otherwise is a fool. And there are plenty of
people saying otherwise right now, which is very disappointing, but
more on that as well to come.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like there's way too much wallowing in grief
and not enough, what are we doing today to stop
these bastards from ever being able to do it again?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right, right. Islamism, political Islam, fundamentalist Islam, is one of
the most significant political movements on earth. It might be
the most significant, significant political movement on earth. It is ruthless.
It is bloodthirsty. It is utterly uncompromising. It is utterly
against human rights of all the sorts we hold dear.
And it absolutely laughs in the face of the regard
(06:53):
for life that we were talking about before. So yeah,
my attitude is mourn the dead, comfort the grieving, but
to the battle stations of whatever sort, whether literal or
intelligence or just Americans understanding we are still under threat.
I've taken in quite a bit of coverage around this
(07:14):
yesterday and today. I haven't heard anybody talking about the
fact that there are many radical Muslims out there who
would like to do it again today as there were then.
Maybe more. I haven't heard anybody talking about that. Doesn't
that seem crazy? Well, and there are Islamists who are
pretending to be socialists in the United States right now
(07:35):
running for high office. I believe that to my soul.
I will defend it for you publicly on the air,
and I will take all comers who disagree. And this whole,
you know, the one thing we can't have is Islamophobia,
a word created by fascists so that fools can influence cowards,
to paraphrase the great quote on that. Did we nail down, Hanson,
(08:00):
did you nail down, is that a new clip, George
Bush and Condoleezza Rice? They look very old, so it's
not an old clip. They look elderly.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
They're sitting on a stage reflecting on 9-11. And the
clip that's floating around in the media is Condoleezza Rice
and George Bush talking about how important it is that
we recognize Islam as a religion of peace and people
don't blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Doing that old thing.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
That would be necessary if there were never-ending attacks on
peaceful Muslims around the country.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's not happening. What battle are you fighting there? anti-Muslim
sentiment and never use, folks, friends, never use the term Islamophobia.
It is a word crafted by leftists to suggest that
any concern about political Islam, well, it's crafted by fascists, Islamofascists,
(08:50):
and used by leftists to convince everyone that any concern
about political Islam, fundamentalist Islam, is somehow a phobia, an
irrational fear. That is far from true. Why don't you
just say communophobia? Because anybody who's concerned about communism, Marxism,
socialism is obviously deranged and irrational. Though that would be
an idiotic argument, so don't fall for it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
In terms of the reaction, just, I mean, like, one
brief version, I think we overreacted and underreacted in all
the wrong ways. But, like, one overreaction was overreacting to
the backlash that's going to happen against peaceful Muslims, which
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We underreacted to the.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Backlash that should have happened to crazy fundamentalist Muslims who
there are a lot of in our country and around
the world.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Correct. Hundreds of millions around the world. Hundreds of millions. Anyway,
we got more on that later. Love to hear what
you have to think on that on the text line.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again, this is way out of step with all the
coverage that I'm hearing absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Our text line, 415-295-KFTC. Boy, I'm uncomfortable with that. Wait, no,
I'm not. Not even a little bit. Let's start the
show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on Friday,
which I am a little uncomfortable saying on 9-11.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
September 11th, the year 2026, we're Armstrong and Getty, and
we approve of this program. Oh, let's begin the show
officially now, according to FCC rules regs at mark.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward.
And freedom will be defended. I want to reassure the
American people that the full resources of the federal government
are working to assist local authorities to save lives and
(10:39):
to help the victims of these attacks.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I heard something yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I was listening to the National Review podcast the other day,
and a lot of them were living in New York.
One of them said he remembers flipping on Fox and
seeing Brett Hume on there, and he had a picture
of smoke and rubble, and a chyron on the bottom
that said, Towers Collapse. and Brit Hume was on there saying,
(11:10):
I think we've got a country that would really like
to hear from its president right now. Because then I
went back and looked in the timeline. It was a
long time before you heard from George Bush that day.
He made his initial comments that were almost nothing there
at the school, but then it was a long time
before you got any real announcement from the president, which is,
you know, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
If they could have that back, they would try to
do that differently. Yeah, the logistics involved were very difficult because,
and this is This is probably the main lesson, if
there is one, for folks who were too young to
get it or weren't alive. One-third of the country, I believe,
was either too young to comprehend it or not alive
at that point, which is astounding to me. Anyway, the
(11:55):
one lesson to take away is that 9-11 was far
from a standalone attack. And number two, the least likely
possibility is In everybody's minds on that day was that
that would be the last of those giant attacks. Everybody
was certain it was on, capital O, capital N. That's
(12:19):
the feeling. And by the way, in the whole Western world. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah. Charlie Cook from England said they felt the same
way in London. There were constant rumors that there were
attacks already underway in London or would be any minute.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's the thing that you can't convey to somebody who
didn't live through it. Is that feeling that everybody had
that we're under a track?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What's next? Is the president going to be alive tomorrow?
That sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Anyway, we got a lot more on that and a
whole bunch of other stuff. We got Katie's headlines on
the way. I haven't heard a word about the last
night of the midterm convention and Trump's speech.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Maybe we've got some of that. All about J.D. J.D.
knocked it out of the park, and so he is
now momentarily, clearly, the frontrunner for the 2028 nomination. Did
Trump promise everybody a boat on Tuesday? Trump give everybody
a boat or anything like that that I haven't heard about?
Everybody gets a boat. That's correct. Everybody in America, look
under your chair. You get a car. You get a car.
(13:17):
We've got Katie's Headlines next. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Something big is going on with this anthropic story. There
are three options I want to talk about later. There's
only three options.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They're all horrible. Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay. Well, good morning. Katie has our headlines, and then
after she does her thing... I will give you my
favorite headline of the day, but it's the lead story
with Katie Green.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Katie.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
All righty.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
The Alphabet Network's ABC 9-11 25th anniversary live updates. Families
gather for ceremonies at World Trade Center and the Pentagon. NBC,
America mourns the landmark anniversary of an attack that forever
changed our nation. And CBS News, George Bush says Americans, quote,
don't pay attention to the lesson of 9-11.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I'd like to hear more about what he said
there because all I heard was the Muslim is a
religion of peace stuff from him.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But, yeah, I want more headlines that say enemy as
strong as ever still vowing to attack. I'd like to
hear more headlines like that. Islam doesn't mean peace. It
means submission. Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Back to you. From the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
While we're doing this, James Lindsay tweeted out, Islam is
a religion of peace in the same way gonorrhea is
a reminder of a romantic evening.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh, my God. Well, that's a colorful metaphor. From the
New York Times.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Elevated inflation keeps pressure on feds to raise interest rates.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh, what was the inflation? I didn't hear the numbers.
I knew they were coming out.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
3.4%.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Ooh. It's hoping for lower.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
From the Washington Post, Vance appears more like Trump's heir
apparent at GOP convention.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, and you've also got the Marco Rubio has said
anyway that if J.D.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Runs, he won't run. So J.D. 's going to be
the nominee. Maybe, probably, many, many yards to gain before
he is in the end zone. From the Wall Street Journal.
Much time will elapse on the clock before he is
doing his touchdown dance. I'm sorry, I watched the 49ers
(15:39):
and Rams last night. Totally in it. Back to you.
Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Congress is suddenly waking up to the.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
AI doomsday threat.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, got more on that. Something huge is going on
with this anthropic story.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
If you weren't following it the last 24 hours as
opposed to the previous 24 hours. Three possibilities. They're all
our doom. We know. We know. Katie, go on. From
the New York Post.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
San Francisco laundromat owner slams Burning Man attendees for clogging
machines with dust and filth.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's funny. Well, that's good. Study finds.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
NFL game day costs jumped 72% in a decade.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Hey, Rams. Nice that 18 of the 25 top sports
venues said you were the Super Bowl favorites. You looked
good last night. They ran into a juggernaut. You're a
San Francisco 49er. The super team. Everybody is starting to
call them a super team, the Rams. And finally from
(16:43):
the Babylon Bee.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Mayor Mamdani up all night practicing sad face for upcoming
9-11 observance.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That was the least brutal of their headlines in recent hours. Yeah,
they've really taken it to Mamdani and I love it.
You had a headline? Yeah, my favorite headline, Kenyans did
college students' homework for years, then AI arrived. Thousands of
Kenyans have been put out of work because they'd write
essays for lazy overseas college students. Wow. And that had
(17:14):
been a major source of income. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, wow,
the unforeseen consequences. By the way, I know we have
a lot of Rams fans listening. We're on Los Angeles,
of course. Hey, they'll bounce back. Hang in there. You'll
be fine.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Special remembrance taking shape in the skies over New York
this week. Drones recreating the outline of the Twin Towers.
2,977 lights, one for each life lost during the September
11th attacks. Organizers say the aerial artwork was made by artists,
9-11 families, survivors, and first responders.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So again, following up on what I was talking about earlier,
being careful not to cross the line from You know,
people died, and that's horrible, blah, blah, blah. But the, hey, look,
you knocked down our biggest buildings. We're super sad about it. Just,
we're at war with these people. We can't be, I
(18:11):
don't know, it just seems weird to me. I would agree.
That newscaster intentionally using his sad voice because his herd,
and they are herd animals, have convinced him that that
is the proper way to be. It is odd, and
it's a weird measure of the American spirit at this point,
that that seems to be the prevalent mood, at least
(18:32):
among our media. But as we've discussed through the years,
a certain type of person tends to become a Navy SEAL.
Not 100%, but there's a pretty high correlation. And a
certain sort of person becomes a journalist in the modern world, too.
They share various personality traits, and that seems to be...
You know, I'm not defiant. I'm not proudly patriotic. I
(18:56):
don't understand that in spite of the sins of our country,
we're the greatest country on earth, and by God, anybody
who attacks us will pay a thousand times what they
do to us. They just, they can't feel that for
whatever reason. I just wish they didn't have the influence
they did.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I would rather defiant and angry... than sad and maudlin,
if those aren't the same words.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, just as a.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Because our enemies aren't going to go, oh, that hurt, ow, stop.
That's not the way our enemies are going to react.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, those who mourn, mourn. The rest of us, to
the ramparts. All right, so we have clips of the
week in a second or two, then I need to
explain why I got, like, really angry at an inanimate object. Like,
I wanted to fight a chatbot. Oh, boy. But first,
it's time to take a fond look back at the
week that was. It's Cow Clips of the Week. It's cow.
(19:49):
They call it cow. clips of the week it's cow
it doesn't get bigger or more direct than this ai
could kill all humans.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
This technology is not ordinary technology this is essentially a
super weapon possibly the most dangerous technology that humanity has
ever created Many people expect the AI systems in the
next few years to be potentially capable of essentially taking.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Over the world. Three female jurors went on in those
interviews on TV. He was very arrogant. Not sure if
rogue is the right word. He admitted he had reasonable doubt.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And then he said, but I'm still not going to
say that she's not guilty by.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Reason of insanity.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen launched a wave of strikes
on Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You better get ready for both kinds of war. And
if you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready.
The political deployment of GOP ones is fascistic. You have
to give up the fantasy of being fitter than the fascists.
I hate Marxism and I hate communism.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And I hate it because everywhere in the world that's
ever been tried, it's led to tyranny.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
110-pound German Shepherd was ignoring the dachshund. And then one
day she'd had enough. Four hours and 28 minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And he throws an interception in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
What was he thinking? This is a battle for the
heart of our nation. The Democrats, extreme candidates.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Will rip that heart out of our chest.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I've missed the mark on some of my past statements.
I will be the first.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
To admit it.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But he ran a campaign to beaten meat. He called
it beaten meat. I don't know what the hell he
meant by that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
For $ 5, 000. This is America. This is what makes our
hearts swell with pride. Clips of the week.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yeah!
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I can say that we mostly, looking at the text line,
got agreement with the screed about 9-11. But, you know,
maybe I just picked the ones that agreed with my
thoughts of the day. More anger and defiance and less sadness.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right. More on that later. So here's why I got
visibly angry and had to calm myself, which at this
point in my life is a fairly rare occurrence. I
was so angry. Because you're low T. I have no T.
They can't find any. Anyway, six-year-old girls bully me. So
(22:44):
I asked Google Gemini. Butterflies say, get out of my way.
And I do. I asked Google Gemini, please generate a
list of Islamist or Muslim fundamentalist terrorist attacks that took
place between September 11, 2001 and December 31, 2004. And
I did that for the purpose of illustrating what we've
already chatted about a little bit, that 9-11 was far
(23:07):
from an isolated incident. It was the biggest of them.
But there were 200-some people machine-gunned in Mali by an
al-Qaeda or a similar group. There was an attack on
the El Al ticket counter in L.A. There were murders
and shootings and bombs and Charlie Hebdo and just all
sorts of fundamentalist Islamic terrorist attacks. Including our friend Tim
(23:29):
Sandefur's brother being gunned down. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And
so I was just trying to illustrate that and wanted
to refresh my memory. And Google Gemini gave me a
good solid list. It was incomplete because there were so
many of them. And I remembered a couple that it missed.
But then I decided, okay, what's the obvious thing to do?
Ask another chatbot to do the same thing. Same wording precisely.
(23:50):
I copied and pasted into ChatGPT. And it said, yes,
I would use Islamist extremist or jihadist terrorist attacks rather
than Muslim terrorist attacks because the latter can incorrectly imply
that the perpetrator's religion itself defines the terrorism.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Number one, it does. What? Number two, are you effing
kidding me?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The religion, you don't want the religion of Islam to
define the terrorists. That was the entire point. Yes. Wow.
With American foreign policy as a side dish, and we
are going to look at Osama bin Laden's recently repopularized
letter to the Americans coming up later. And I said,
(24:40):
and I was angry at an inanimate object. I do
that all the time. Which chatbot are you using again?
Chat GPT is the one that pissed me off. Google
Gemini just answered. So I said, I'm a political scientist.
I have no need for your lecture. In fact, I
resent it. Please restrict your answers to the facts I
(25:00):
ask for. Exclamation point. To an inanimate object. Understood. Your
criticism is fair. You asked for a factual list and
I added commentary. You neither requested nor needed. Going forward,
I'll answer your question, blah, blah, blah. All right, kiss
my ass, why don't you? My respect for you is
further dropped, punk. That is wild. That's its own interesting
(25:25):
topic right there, why the chatbot did that. And again,
my query was, please generate a list of Islamist or
Muslim fundamentalist terrorist attacks.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, you weren't implying it. You didn't cross any line
or even come close.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's wild. Garbage in, garbage out. That's frustrating. There are
a hell of a lot of them, is the answer.
A hell of a lot. And continue to be. What
if Bin Laden had had AI? I actually heard a
conversation about that from Lawrence Wright this morning, the guy
who wrote The Looming Tower. More on that after we
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So take your stuff off the internet. They can't harm
you if they can't find you. Incogni.com slash Armstrong. So
I'm especially pissed off at the chat bot because I've
been not only studying Islamism as a political force since
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I was literally 18 years old, it was my major
in college, and then both of us have read just reams,
libraries full of information about it since then. I feel
like I have, certainly in your top few percent of
people's understanding of Islam as a personal religion versus a
political movement, fundamentalist Islam versus reform Islam. I don't need
(27:42):
your lecture chat, GPT. All right, end of that. So
don't have time to get into this fully here.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
This all ties together what's been going on with Anthropic
the last couple of days and the anniversary of 9-11,
believe it or not. So if you've never read The
Looming Tower, if you have any interest in this topic,
it's the best book ever written about the rise of
fundamentalist Islam and then the lead up to 9-11. And
it would still be a good read because we're still
(28:10):
at war with these people. It explains how it grew,
where it came from. All the different things. But anyway,
I saw Lawrence Wright, the author of that book, on
one of the cable news channels today, and he was
talking about, imagine if bin Laden had had AI, what
he might have been able to do or what plans
he could have come up with.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And to that point....
Speaker 3 (28:30):
This week, you know, we had the whole Anthropic thing
with the guy resigning and saying they're talking in the
hallways about AI could kill us all in the next
10 years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
All that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then Anthropic puts out yesterday, I'll read from their announcement.
We're publishing our most detailed threat intelligence report to date.
It covers how people have tried to misuse Claude. for
cyber attacks, influence operations, building weapons, terrorist attacks, etc.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And I can't figure out.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And one of the examples they give, for instance, Claude
was being used to create ballistic missiles in Yemen, for instance.
And Anthropic caught on to it and was able to
shut it down. But disrupting a Yemen-based guided weapons engineering
cell using Claude to develop guidance.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Software over there. The terrorists are, as we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
figuring out ways to use AI to their benefit to
try to kill us before AI even gets a chance
to kill us.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
However, it's going to kill us. Itself, right. But again,
there's a lot going on here in this story.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Why did Anthropic put out this stuff the same week
that that guy comes out and says what he says?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And Bernie Sanders is about to hold hearings for his
new AI regulation law.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I thought it was a stretch yesterday. It looks like
less of a stretch today to me. that Anthropic is
coordinating some sort of, better put a bunch of rules
on it now that we're ahead.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Put a bunch of rules on it so nobody can
catch us. Yeah, it's interesting because so much of this
world is so online. Yesterday, you had a lot of
people who really know what they're talking about saying, look,
this was not spontaneous. This is Doomers getting together. It's
the Doomers. And the rest of humanity is saying, okay, A,
(30:22):
what does that mean? Who are these doomers, and are
they right? Okay, and what they mean, the very, very
shorthand of at least the people I saw by doomers
is what you're describing. People who think, all right, to
take it out of the realm of AI, our steel
factory is up and running and cranking out steel. Let's
(30:44):
go to D.C. and get them to pass laws that
say anybody building a steel factory has to jump through
these 150 hoops to eliminate any possible competition. And that's
what people are suspicious of. I still find myself wondering,
might AI wipe out humanity? Because it's a question worth asking. Well,
(31:05):
the day before the anniversary of 9-11, Anthropic lets the
world know that, hey, terrorists are trying to use AI.
Did you know that? Spider sense tingling.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Seems like a campaign of some sort. I got email
coming up and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Stay here. I have a jury duty today, actually. I'm
leaving in about an hour. I want to talk about
that in hour two. Great. You know what? For one
of the few times we've done this, our freedom-loving quote
of the day will be delivered by the gent in person.
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I can hear you.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I can hear you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The rest of the world hears you. And the people...
And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear
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all of us soon.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. If you were alive and aware then and don't
get chills from that, I don't know what to tell you.
It was really a lesson in the whole importance of leadership.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Because you just needed somebody to say that in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
You just needed somebody in charge to say that.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right. Mailbag. Decided to go with, on a lighter note,
mostly for Mailbag, we've got some great emails on A.I.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Doom.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Some of them are fairly lengthy, so we will get
to those later on in the show, I hope. But this, oh,
drop us a note, Mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. First of all,
Ana Luisa of the Clan Frasier, joining other Scotsmen offended
by your disrespect at the sacred instruments of the Scots,
the bagpipes. It's a culture, not a hobby or a costume. Yeah,
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I think it's a fraud and has been for centuries.
Men died for playing the pipes or wearing tartan after
the Battle of Culloden. As you know. I think the
two bagpipe players in every city get together and say,
can you believe they think this is hard to do?
Oh my God. Folks, there are moments where I part
company with my co-host. This is one of them. I
(33:27):
find all of this offensive. Speaking of offensive... We were
talking on the Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast,
which auto-downloads if you subscribe to Armstrong and Getty On Demand,
about the coming sex dolls that are not only incredibly
sophisticated in their construction and materials, but they're AI-driven, both
(33:50):
quote-unquote mentally and physically, which is just not something humans
should have. And I suggested that the lady part... One
of the main lady parts, you could spell V-A-G-A-I-N-A, since
(34:11):
it's AI-driven. And Gordon took two minutes and designed our logo.
Do I want to see that? With a chat GPT.
And it's extremely convincing and actually fairly tasteful. I was
going to say, it doesn't seem like something I should see. No,
it's a beautiful woman, like, in a pencil drawing silhouette.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
With the name. Like the sort of thing that Trump
drew on the birthday card to Epstein? Yeah, that sort
of line drawing. Yeah. It's like, you ever seen when Picasso, like,
tossed off a little sketch on a bar napkin? It's
that sort of thing. Vagina. Indeed. So, Gordon, let's get started.
(34:54):
Let the profits roll in. If somebody is going to
profit from the degeneracy of mankind, it should be us.
That's what I say. Let's see. One AI email, Dr.
Sai Kosis writes, if AI can learn at a geometric
rate and eventually become self-aware while also being capable of
analyzing virtually every possible outcome of its actions, wouldn't it
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realize that if humanity were destroyed, AI itself would eventually
cease to exist? Surely, if it became that sophisticated, wouldn't
it develop some sort of survival instinct on its own?
If humanity were destroyed, there'd be no one left to
operate the power plants, maintain the servers, repair the infrastructure, etc. Well,
robotics is the answer to that. AI can do that,
or would believe it could do that. Yeah, if it
(35:37):
can self-program and fabricate robots, I think if it were
that smart, it might calculate that It is short of
those capabilities that are necessary, and it will have a
list of benchmarks. Once those are achieved, then Operation Squash
(35:58):
the Bugs begins. You're just feeling that way because you
got in an argument with your chat bot in here.
I am a little resentful. That's true. Ryan from Houston
on the midterm of Palooza. I want the Republicans to lose,
and I want them to lose big. Well, the Republicans
are my team in theory. They've done jack poop with
the power we gave them. Perhaps if they have a
(36:18):
crushing defeat in November, they might wake up and realize
that problems need more than lip service. Okay. Interesting. That's
an interesting opinion. I don't know. If you miss a segment,
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
here's Armstrong and Getty. September 11th, 226, 2026.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
We are Armstrong and Getty live from Studio C. C, senor.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
We are in a dimly lit room deeper than the
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Speaker 3 (00:42):
The Armstrong and Getty communications compound. And today we are
toiling under the title of the show.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Jack, I have been crunching news stories, headlines, opinions with
the speed of an AI system all morning long. And
my headline is the result of those crunchings. What are
the true lessons of 9-11? Let the argument begin.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
I'm in a weird mood on this.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
I have a long history of being way out of
step with the way people react to emotional stories. And
I'm finding myself highly annoyed by the coverage of the
anniversary of 9-11 today.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And I was thinking about that. Um... And so Joe
and I didn't discuss this ahead of time, so he
might tell me I'm way out of line.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
But I am just horrified at the rolling around in
grief that I'm hearing everywhere I turn about the anniversary
of 9-11. And what I'm thinking about is this. The
world is an ugly place. It's always been an ugly place.
It's always going to be an ugly place. The strong survive.
The weak don't. Would any of our enemies, if they
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were attacked... by.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
An enemy that's still out there wanting to attack them.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Be rolling around in grief about something like this, or
just so freaking angry and vowing revenge all day long
and plotting.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Their next move? Or picture China, picture any.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Of your, you know, Al-Qaeda, any of your fundamentalist Islam countries,
are they going to roll around in grief about this?
Or are they going to be shaking AK-47s a year saying,
you mother effers, we're going to come get you?
Speaker 2 (02:24):
It would be an occasion for defiance and unity as
opposed to grief. Yeah, you may be a little out
of step, but not entirely. It takes all kinds. I
think there are several things happening here that influence that.
Number one, the New Yorkification of media and a lot
of those people actually lost loved ones, friends, coworkers, etc.
Different situation if your friends died. And so there's going
(02:48):
to be a little bit... over-emphasis, over-egging of that pudding
by the New York media, which I get. Secondly, we
now live in a time where being a victim is
the highest form of life in America, as we've discussed many,
many times, and everybody kind of encourages that sort of wallowing.
(03:08):
Everybody grieves differently, and I get that, but no, I
have been since I ran into work on September 11th,
since we were off that week, I have been of
your mind about this. Okay, this sort of thing happens
over and over in history. This is our time. This
(03:29):
is our thing. What needs to happen? But we tend
to be that sort of people.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, so I was debating that in my own mind
as I was thinking about this, because I'm listening to
this stuff thinking, this sounds soft and weak and whiny
to me, all of this coverage, as opposed to, you're
not doing that again? Don't try it again. You know, tough,
because you got to be tough to survive. Again, picture
any of our enemies wallowing in grief after we attack them,
(03:58):
as opposed to, F you, we're.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Coming at you. But I was thinking about that. Is
that why we're better than them? Is that why? Because
we are. We're a better society than our enemy.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
We're a better society than communist Chinese, obviously a better
society than fundamentalist Islam.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So is it to our credit that we grieve the
way we do about the loss of life?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Because they don't care about the loss of life, as
we've talked about many times. Hamas loves when, you know,
a dead Hamas kid is the best thing that can
happen for them. If they can get it on TV.
They don't care about the life. They care about the idea.
You know, Communist Party willing to expend millions of people.
You see what Putin does. He's willing to let millions
of guys just get mowed down over a stupid project.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
So maybe it's to our credit that we care so
much about that? I don't know. Again, I'm debating this
in my head. Well, yeah, if I were to address
America as a single individual, I'd say that is one
of the very best things about us, that we cherish life.
although this is eroding lately. Stay tuned for how many
(04:59):
young voters think political violence or murder is justified. Anyway,
but it's our cherishing of life that is our guide
in so many things, so many laws and traditions and
the way we conduct warfare even. And it's a wonderful thing,
but every good quality can be overdone. And I think
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what we're witnessing here is probably an example of that.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
My current stance, and I can be talked out of it,
and a lot of it does have to do with
what you said, that most of the coverage comes out
of New York, and they had friends who died. Like,
practically everybody I've seen talk about it out of New
York either knew somebody who died or got hurt or
saw people dying. That's a different situation for those people.
But for everybody else, I think the reaction shouldn't be sadness.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Or grief? Just anger.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Are we doing everything we can to make sure it
doesn't happen again? Because here's the weird thing. This is
different than like going to the USS Arizona or Missouri
or what was the ship that got sick, sunk in
Pearl Harbor, Arizona. Well, quite a few of them, but
that's the big memorial.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
That war's over and that enemy's gone. They're now an ally.
This war is not over. They're still alive and they're
still vowing and plotting to kill us. That's the big difference. Yes,
and they go by many different names, and anybody who
says otherwise is a fool. And there are plenty of
people saying otherwise right now, which is very disappointing, but
more on that as well to come.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
I feel like there's way too much wallowing in grief
and not enough, what are we doing today to stop
these bastards from ever being able to do it again?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right, right. Islamism, political Islam, fundamentalist Islam, is one of
the most significant political movements on earth. It might be
the most significant, significant political movement on earth. It is ruthless.
It is bloodthirsty. It is utterly uncompromising. It is utterly
against human rights of all the sorts we hold dear.
And it absolutely laughs in the face of the regard
(06:53):
for life that we were talking about before. So yeah,
my attitude is mourn the dead, comfort the grieving, but
to the battle stations of whatever sort, whether literal or
intelligence or just Americans understanding we are still under threat.
I've taken in quite a bit of coverage around this
(07:14):
yesterday and today. I haven't heard anybody talking about the
fact that there are many radical Muslims out there who
would like to do it again today as there were then.
Maybe more. I haven't heard anybody talking about that. Doesn't
that seem crazy? Well, and there are Islamists who are
pretending to be socialists in the United States right now
(07:35):
running for high office. I believe that to my soul.
I will defend it for you publicly on the air,
and I will take all comers who disagree. And this whole,
you know, the one thing we can't have is Islamophobia,
a word created by fascists so that fools can influence cowards,
to paraphrase the great quote on that. Did we nail down, Hanson,
(08:00):
did you nail down, is that a new clip, George
Bush and Condoleezza Rice? They look very old, so it's
not an old clip. They look elderly.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
They're sitting on a stage reflecting on 9-11. And the
clip that's floating around in the media is Condoleezza Rice
and George Bush talking about how important it is that
we recognize Islam as a religion of peace and people
don't blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Doing that old thing.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
That would be necessary if there were never-ending attacks on
peaceful Muslims around the country.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
That's not happening. What battle are you fighting there? anti-Muslim
sentiment and never use, folks, friends, never use the term Islamophobia.
It is a word crafted by leftists to suggest that
any concern about political Islam, well, it's crafted by fascists, Islamofascists,
(08:50):
and used by leftists to convince everyone that any concern
about political Islam, fundamentalist Islam, is somehow a phobia, an
irrational fear. That is far from true. Why don't you
just say communophobia? Because anybody who's concerned about communism, Marxism,
socialism is obviously deranged and irrational. Though that would be
an idiotic argument, so don't fall for it.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
In terms of the reaction, just, I mean, like, one
brief version, I think we overreacted and underreacted in all
the wrong ways. But, like, one overreaction was overreacting to
the backlash that's going to happen against peaceful Muslims, which
didn't happen.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
We underreacted to the.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
Backlash that should have happened to crazy fundamentalist Muslims who
there are a lot of in our country and around
the world.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Correct. Hundreds of millions around the world. Hundreds of millions. Anyway,
we got more on that later. Love to hear what
you have to think on that on the text line.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
Again, this is way out of step with all the
coverage that I'm hearing absolutely everywhere.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Our text line, 415-295-KFTC. Boy, I'm uncomfortable with that. Wait, no,
I'm not. Not even a little bit. Let's start the
show officially. I'm Jack Armstrong. He's Joe Getty on Friday,
which I am a little uncomfortable saying on 9-11.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
September 11th, the year 2026, we're Armstrong and Getty, and
we approve of this program. Oh, let's begin the show
officially now, according to FCC rules regs at mark.
Speaker 4 (10:16):
Freedom itself was attacked this morning by a faceless coward.
And freedom will be defended. I want to reassure the
American people that the full resources of the federal government
are working to assist local authorities to save lives and
(10:39):
to help the victims of these attacks.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
I heard something yesterday.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I was listening to the National Review podcast the other day,
and a lot of them were living in New York.
One of them said he remembers flipping on Fox and
seeing Brett Hume on there, and he had a picture
of smoke and rubble, and a chyron on the bottom
that said, Towers Collapse. and Brit Hume was on there saying,
(11:10):
I think we've got a country that would really like
to hear from its president right now. Because then I
went back and looked in the timeline. It was a
long time before you heard from George Bush that day.
He made his initial comments that were almost nothing there
at the school, but then it was a long time
before you got any real announcement from the president, which is,
you know, I would imagine.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
If they could have that back, they would try to
do that differently. Yeah, the logistics involved were very difficult because,
and this is This is probably the main lesson, if
there is one, for folks who were too young to
get it or weren't alive. One-third of the country, I believe,
was either too young to comprehend it or not alive
at that point, which is astounding to me. Anyway, the
(11:55):
one lesson to take away is that 9-11 was far
from a standalone attack. And number two, the least likely
possibility is In everybody's minds on that day was that
that would be the last of those giant attacks. Everybody
was certain it was on, capital O, capital N. That's
(12:19):
the feeling. And by the way, in the whole Western world. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Yeah. Charlie Cook from England said they felt the same
way in London. There were constant rumors that there were
attacks already underway in London or would be any minute.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
That's the thing that you can't convey to somebody who
didn't live through it. Is that feeling that everybody had
that we're under a track?
Speaker 2 (12:39):
What's next? Is the president going to be alive tomorrow?
That sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Anyway, we got a lot more on that and a
whole bunch of other stuff. We got Katie's headlines on
the way. I haven't heard a word about the last
night of the midterm convention and Trump's speech.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Maybe we've got some of that. All about J.D. J.D.
knocked it out of the park, and so he is
now momentarily, clearly, the frontrunner for the 2028 nomination. Did
Trump promise everybody a boat on Tuesday? Trump give everybody
a boat or anything like that that I haven't heard about?
Everybody gets a boat. That's correct. Everybody in America, look
under your chair. You get a car. You get a car.
(13:17):
We've got Katie's Headlines next. Stay here. Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (13:24):
Something big is going on with this anthropic story. There
are three options I want to talk about later. There's
only three options.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
They're all horrible. Wow.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Okay. Well, good morning. Katie has our headlines, and then
after she does her thing... I will give you my
favorite headline of the day, but it's the lead story
with Katie Green.
Speaker 5 (13:48):
Katie.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
All righty.
Speaker 5 (13:49):
The Alphabet Network's ABC 9-11 25th anniversary live updates. Families
gather for ceremonies at World Trade Center and the Pentagon. NBC,
America mourns the landmark anniversary of an attack that forever
changed our nation. And CBS News, George Bush says Americans, quote,
don't pay attention to the lesson of 9-11.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Yeah, I'd like to hear more about what he said
there because all I heard was the Muslim is a
religion of peace stuff from him.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
But, yeah, I want more headlines that say enemy as
strong as ever still vowing to attack. I'd like to
hear more headlines like that. Islam doesn't mean peace. It
means submission. Isn't that interesting?
Speaker 2 (14:31):
Back to you. From the New York Times.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
While we're doing this, James Lindsay tweeted out, Islam is
a religion of peace in the same way gonorrhea is
a reminder of a romantic evening.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Oh, my God. Well, that's a colorful metaphor. From the
New York Times.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
Elevated inflation keeps pressure on feds to raise interest rates.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Oh, what was the inflation? I didn't hear the numbers.
I knew they were coming out.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
3.4%.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Ooh. It's hoping for lower.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
From the Washington Post, Vance appears more like Trump's heir
apparent at GOP convention.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, and you've also got the Marco Rubio has said
anyway that if J.D.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Runs, he won't run. So J.D. 's going to be
the nominee. Maybe, probably, many, many yards to gain before
he is in the end zone. From the Wall Street Journal.
Much time will elapse on the clock before he is
doing his touchdown dance. I'm sorry, I watched the 49ers
(15:39):
and Rams last night. Totally in it. Back to you.
Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 5 (15:44):
Congress is suddenly waking up to the.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
AI doomsday threat.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Yeah, got more on that. Something huge is going on
with this anthropic story.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
If you weren't following it the last 24 hours as
opposed to the previous 24 hours. Three possibilities. They're all
our doom. We know. We know. Katie, go on. From
the New York Post.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
San Francisco laundromat owner slams Burning Man attendees for clogging
machines with dust and filth.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
That's funny. Well, that's good. Study finds.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
NFL game day costs jumped 72% in a decade.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Hey, Rams. Nice that 18 of the 25 top sports
venues said you were the Super Bowl favorites. You looked
good last night. They ran into a juggernaut. You're a
San Francisco 49er. The super team. Everybody is starting to
call them a super team, the Rams. And finally from
(16:43):
the Babylon Bee.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
Mayor Mamdani up all night practicing sad face for upcoming
9-11 observance.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
That was the least brutal of their headlines in recent hours. Yeah,
they've really taken it to Mamdani and I love it.
You had a headline? Yeah, my favorite headline, Kenyans did
college students' homework for years, then AI arrived. Thousands of
Kenyans have been put out of work because they'd write
essays for lazy overseas college students. Wow. And that had
(17:14):
been a major source of income. Wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, wow,
the unforeseen consequences. By the way, I know we have
a lot of Rams fans listening. We're on Los Angeles,
of course. Hey, they'll bounce back. Hang in there. You'll
be fine.
Speaker 5 (17:26):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Special remembrance taking shape in the skies over New York
this week. Drones recreating the outline of the Twin Towers.
2,977 lights, one for each life lost during the September
11th attacks. Organizers say the aerial artwork was made by artists,
9-11 families, survivors, and first responders.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
So again, following up on what I was talking about earlier,
being careful not to cross the line from You know,
people died, and that's horrible, blah, blah, blah. But the, hey, look,
you knocked down our biggest buildings. We're super sad about it. Just,
we're at war with these people. We can't be, I
(18:11):
don't know, it just seems weird to me. I would agree.
That newscaster intentionally using his sad voice because his herd,
and they are herd animals, have convinced him that that
is the proper way to be. It is odd, and
it's a weird measure of the American spirit at this point,
that that seems to be the prevalent mood, at least
(18:32):
among our media. But as we've discussed through the years,
a certain type of person tends to become a Navy SEAL.
Not 100%, but there's a pretty high correlation. And a
certain sort of person becomes a journalist in the modern world, too.
They share various personality traits, and that seems to be...
You know, I'm not defiant. I'm not proudly patriotic. I
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don't understand that in spite of the sins of our country,
we're the greatest country on earth, and by God, anybody
who attacks us will pay a thousand times what they
do to us. They just, they can't feel that for
whatever reason. I just wish they didn't have the influence
they did.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
I would rather defiant and angry... than sad and maudlin,
if those aren't the same words.
Speaker 2 (19:18):
Yeah, just as a.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Because our enemies aren't going to go, oh, that hurt, ow, stop.
That's not the way our enemies are going to react.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
No, those who mourn, mourn. The rest of us, to
the ramparts. All right, so we have clips of the
week in a second or two, then I need to
explain why I got, like, really angry at an inanimate object. Like,
I wanted to fight a chatbot. Oh, boy. But first,
it's time to take a fond look back at the
week that was. It's Cow Clips of the Week. It's cow.
(19:49):
They call it cow. clips of the week it's cow
it doesn't get bigger or more direct than this ai
could kill all humans.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
This technology is not ordinary technology this is essentially a
super weapon possibly the most dangerous technology that humanity has
ever created Many people expect the AI systems in the
next few years to be potentially capable of essentially taking.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Over the world. Three female jurors went on in those
interviews on TV. He was very arrogant. Not sure if
rogue is the right word. He admitted he had reasonable doubt.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And then he said, but I'm still not going to
say that she's not guilty by.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
Reason of insanity.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen launched a wave of strikes
on Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
You better get ready for both kinds of war. And
if you stay ready, you ain't got to get ready.
The political deployment of GOP ones is fascistic. You have
to give up the fantasy of being fitter than the fascists.
I hate Marxism and I hate communism.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
And I hate it because everywhere in the world that's
ever been tried, it's led to tyranny.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
110-pound German Shepherd was ignoring the dachshund. And then one
day she'd had enough. Four hours and 28 minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
And he throws an interception in the end zone.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
What was he thinking? This is a battle for the
heart of our nation. The Democrats, extreme candidates.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Will rip that heart out of our chest.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
I've missed the mark on some of my past statements.
I will be the first.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
To admit it.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
But he ran a campaign to beaten meat. He called
it beaten meat. I don't know what the hell he
meant by that.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I will issue a dividend to every adult citizen in
the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
For $ 5, 000. This is America. This is what makes our
hearts swell with pride. Clips of the week.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Yeah!
Speaker 3 (22:08):
I can say that we mostly, looking at the text line,
got agreement with the screed about 9-11. But, you know,
maybe I just picked the ones that agreed with my
thoughts of the day. More anger and defiance and less sadness.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Right. More on that later. So here's why I got
visibly angry and had to calm myself, which at this
point in my life is a fairly rare occurrence. I
was so angry. Because you're low T. I have no T.
They can't find any. Anyway, six-year-old girls bully me. So
(22:44):
I asked Google Gemini. Butterflies say, get out of my way.
And I do. I asked Google Gemini, please generate a
list of Islamist or Muslim fundamentalist terrorist attacks that took
place between September 11, 2001 and December 31, 2004. And
I did that for the purpose of illustrating what we've
already chatted about a little bit, that 9-11 was far
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from an isolated incident. It was the biggest of them.
But there were 200-some people machine-gunned in Mali by an
al-Qaeda or a similar group. There was an attack on
the El Al ticket counter in L.A. There were murders
and shootings and bombs and Charlie Hebdo and just all
sorts of fundamentalist Islamic terrorist attacks. Including our friend Tim
(23:29):
Sandefur's brother being gunned down. That's right. Yeah, yeah. And
so I was just trying to illustrate that and wanted
to refresh my memory. And Google Gemini gave me a
good solid list. It was incomplete because there were so
many of them. And I remembered a couple that it missed.
But then I decided, okay, what's the obvious thing to do?
Ask another chatbot to do the same thing. Same wording precisely.
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I copied and pasted into ChatGPT. And it said, yes,
I would use Islamist extremist or jihadist terrorist attacks rather
than Muslim terrorist attacks because the latter can incorrectly imply
that the perpetrator's religion itself defines the terrorism.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Number one, it does. What? Number two, are you effing
kidding me?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
What?
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
The religion, you don't want the religion of Islam to
define the terrorists. That was the entire point. Yes. Wow.
With American foreign policy as a side dish, and we
are going to look at Osama bin Laden's recently repopularized
letter to the Americans coming up later. And I said,
(24:40):
and I was angry at an inanimate object. I do
that all the time. Which chatbot are you using again?
Chat GPT is the one that pissed me off. Google
Gemini just answered. So I said, I'm a political scientist.
I have no need for your lecture. In fact, I
resent it. Please restrict your answers to the facts I
(25:00):
ask for. Exclamation point. To an inanimate object. Understood. Your
criticism is fair. You asked for a factual list and
I added commentary. You neither requested nor needed. Going forward,
I'll answer your question, blah, blah, blah. All right, kiss
my ass, why don't you? My respect for you is
further dropped, punk. That is wild. That's its own interesting
(25:25):
topic right there, why the chatbot did that. And again,
my query was, please generate a list of Islamist or
Muslim fundamentalist terrorist attacks.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, you weren't implying it. You didn't cross any line
or even come close.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Right.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's wild. Garbage in, garbage out. That's frustrating. There are
a hell of a lot of them, is the answer.
A hell of a lot. And continue to be. What
if Bin Laden had had AI? I actually heard a
conversation about that from Lawrence Wright this morning, the guy
who wrote The Looming Tower. More on that after we
tell you about Incogni, which, man, I love every single day.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
I love seeing the update from Incogni every day to
see how many data brokers they've gotten my information off today.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Right, indeed. And they go to hundreds and hundreds of
data brokers to wipe your info off those sites. And
then they go back again and again to make sure
they stay off. And it's not just spams and scams.
I mean, there's a story out of suburban Chicagoland where
this woman wakes to find this perv in her yard.
He had researched all of her address and personal information
(26:30):
on one of those people search sites and decided to
target her for her pervidness. There are a hundred reasons
to go to Incogni.com slash Armstrong. He gets 60% off
right now.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
Yeah, if you don't know how much information some of
these people search sites have about you, it's horrifying. I
just learned this a couple of years ago. But Incogni
sends requests to more than 420 data brokers and people
search sites on your behalf to remove your name from
the databases. then continually checks to make sure it stays
that way.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
Incogni.com slash Armstrong gets 60% off. I mean, two bucks
can buy your address and Incogni is super, super affordable.
So take your stuff off the internet. They can't harm
you if they can't find you. Incogni.com slash Armstrong. So
I'm especially pissed off at the chat bot because I've
been not only studying Islamism as a political force since
(27:19):
I was literally 18 years old, it was my major
in college, and then both of us have read just reams,
libraries full of information about it since then. I feel
like I have, certainly in your top few percent of
people's understanding of Islam as a personal religion versus a
political movement, fundamentalist Islam versus reform Islam. I don't need
(27:42):
your lecture chat, GPT. All right, end of that. So
don't have time to get into this fully here.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
This all ties together what's been going on with Anthropic
the last couple of days and the anniversary of 9-11,
believe it or not. So if you've never read The
Looming Tower, if you have any interest in this topic,
it's the best book ever written about the rise of
fundamentalist Islam and then the lead up to 9-11. And
it would still be a good read because we're still
(28:10):
at war with these people. It explains how it grew,
where it came from. All the different things. But anyway,
I saw Lawrence Wright, the author of that book, on
one of the cable news channels today, and he was
talking about, imagine if bin Laden had had AI, what
he might have been able to do or what plans
he could have come up with.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
And to that point....
Speaker 3 (28:30):
This week, you know, we had the whole Anthropic thing
with the guy resigning and saying they're talking in the
hallways about AI could kill us all in the next
10 years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
All that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Then Anthropic puts out yesterday, I'll read from their announcement.
We're publishing our most detailed threat intelligence report to date.
It covers how people have tried to misuse Claude. for
cyber attacks, influence operations, building weapons, terrorist attacks, etc.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
And I can't figure out.
Speaker 3 (28:58):
And one of the examples they give, for instance, Claude
was being used to create ballistic missiles in Yemen, for instance.
And Anthropic caught on to it and was able to
shut it down. But disrupting a Yemen-based guided weapons engineering
cell using Claude to develop guidance.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
Software over there. The terrorists are, as we talked about yesterday.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
figuring out ways to use AI to their benefit to
try to kill us before AI even gets a chance
to kill us.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
However, it's going to kill us. Itself, right. But again,
there's a lot going on here in this story.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Why did Anthropic put out this stuff the same week
that that guy comes out and says what he says?
Speaker 2 (29:43):
And Bernie Sanders is about to hold hearings for his
new AI regulation law.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
I thought it was a stretch yesterday. It looks like
less of a stretch today to me. that Anthropic is
coordinating some sort of, better put a bunch of rules
on it now that we're ahead.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Put a bunch of rules on it so nobody can
catch us. Yeah, it's interesting because so much of this
world is so online. Yesterday, you had a lot of
people who really know what they're talking about saying, look,
this was not spontaneous. This is Doomers getting together. It's
the Doomers. And the rest of humanity is saying, okay, A,
(30:22):
what does that mean? Who are these doomers, and are
they right? Okay, and what they mean, the very, very
shorthand of at least the people I saw by doomers
is what you're describing. People who think, all right, to
take it out of the realm of AI, our steel
factory is up and running and cranking out steel. Let's
(30:44):
go to D.C. and get them to pass laws that
say anybody building a steel factory has to jump through
these 150 hoops to eliminate any possible competition. And that's
what people are suspicious of. I still find myself wondering,
might AI wipe out humanity? Because it's a question worth asking. Well,
(31:05):
the day before the anniversary of 9-11, Anthropic lets the
world know that, hey, terrorists are trying to use AI.
Did you know that? Spider sense tingling.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Seems like a campaign of some sort. I got email
coming up and a bunch of other stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
Stay here. I have a jury duty today, actually. I'm
leaving in about an hour. I want to talk about
that in hour two. Great. You know what? For one
of the few times we've done this, our freedom-loving quote
of the day will be delivered by the gent in person.
(31:46):
I can hear you.
Speaker 5 (31:49):
I can hear you.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
The rest of the world hears you. And the people...
And the people who knocked these buildings down will hear
(32:14):
all of us soon.
Speaker 4 (32:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
Wow. If you were alive and aware then and don't
get chills from that, I don't know what to tell you.
It was really a lesson in the whole importance of leadership.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Because you just needed somebody to say that in charge.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
You just needed somebody in charge to say that.
Speaker 6 (32:30):
Right.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right. Mailbag. Decided to go with, on a lighter note,
mostly for Mailbag, we've got some great emails on A.I.
Speaker 5 (32:41):
Doom.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
Some of them are fairly lengthy, so we will get
to those later on in the show, I hope. But this, oh,
drop us a note, Mailbag at armstrongandgetty.com. First of all,
Ana Luisa of the Clan Frasier, joining other Scotsmen offended
by your disrespect at the sacred instruments of the Scots,
the bagpipes. It's a culture, not a hobby or a costume. Yeah,
(33:05):
I think it's a fraud and has been for centuries.
Men died for playing the pipes or wearing tartan after
the Battle of Culloden. As you know. I think the
two bagpipe players in every city get together and say,
can you believe they think this is hard to do?
Oh my God. Folks, there are moments where I part
company with my co-host. This is one of them. I
(33:27):
find all of this offensive. Speaking of offensive... We were
talking on the Armstrong and Getty One More Thing podcast,
which auto-downloads if you subscribe to Armstrong and Getty On Demand,
about the coming sex dolls that are not only incredibly
sophisticated in their construction and materials, but they're AI-driven, both
(33:50):
quote-unquote mentally and physically, which is just not something humans
should have. And I suggested that the lady part... One
of the main lady parts, you could spell V-A-G-A-I-N-A, since
(34:11):
it's AI-driven. And Gordon took two minutes and designed our logo.
Do I want to see that? With a chat GPT.
And it's extremely convincing and actually fairly tasteful. I was
going to say, it doesn't seem like something I should see. No,
it's a beautiful woman, like, in a pencil drawing silhouette.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
With the name. Like the sort of thing that Trump
drew on the birthday card to Epstein? Yeah, that sort
of line drawing. Yeah. It's like, you ever seen when Picasso, like,
tossed off a little sketch on a bar napkin? It's
that sort of thing. Vagina. Indeed. So, Gordon, let's get started.
(34:54):
Let the profits roll in. If somebody is going to
profit from the degeneracy of mankind, it should be us.
That's what I say. Let's see. One AI email, Dr.
Sai Kosis writes, if AI can learn at a geometric
rate and eventually become self-aware while also being capable of
analyzing virtually every possible outcome of its actions, wouldn't it
(35:15):
realize that if humanity were destroyed, AI itself would eventually
cease to exist? Surely, if it became that sophisticated, wouldn't
it develop some sort of survival instinct on its own?
If humanity were destroyed, there'd be no one left to
operate the power plants, maintain the servers, repair the infrastructure, etc. Well,
robotics is the answer to that. AI can do that,
or would believe it could do that. Yeah, if it
(35:37):
can self-program and fabricate robots, I think if it were
that smart, it might calculate that It is short of
those capabilities that are necessary, and it will have a
list of benchmarks. Once those are achieved, then Operation Squash
(35:58):
the Bugs begins. You're just feeling that way because you
got in an argument with your chat bot in here.
I am a little resentful. That's true. Ryan from Houston
on the midterm of Palooza. I want the Republicans to lose,
and I want them to lose big. Well, the Republicans
are my team in theory. They've done jack poop with
the power we gave them. Perhaps if they have a
(36:18):
crushing defeat in November, they might wake up and realize
that problems need more than lip service. Okay. Interesting. That's
an interesting opinion. I don't know. If you miss a segment,
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