June 3, 2026 • 37 mins
Hour Three of A&G features...
- The conclusion of a breaking news story...
- Infidelity & Politics...
- A new use for old yeast...
- Men aren't working...
- An Irishman & a parakeet.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arms Strong
and Katty and he Armstrong and Hetty.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Police receiving a call about a man making a bomb
threat inside a Chase bank.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
A subjects a MAKESHIFTND and wires coming up under history.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Nearby city hall and police headquarters place on lockdown as
police negotiated with the suspect.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
People on their knees.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Authority say the suspect held people captive inside one of
the rooms in the bank, releasing two separately. An unknown
number remain inside.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay, that's been going on the entire time we've been
doing our radio show today, and just a horrifying scenario
that we've all seen play out in TV shows and
movies and often wondered ourselves what that would be like
to be in a bank with a person with a
gun or a bomb or whatever, and horrifying. Are you
gonna look me through it? And how is it going
to turn out? And et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What kind of maniac is this? We have? Breaking news, Michael,
breaking news. The suspect who had barricaded himself inside a
bank building in Bakersfield. Now has one more bullet in
him than he used to, and he ain't gonna be
doing nothing anymore. He is dead as a hammer. A
sniper got him. Oh really yeah, wow, he's actually been
(01:37):
dead for some time, but they haven't announced it. They
were probably checking clearing the building and checking the bombs
et cetera, et cetera before they Now I assume.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
He was in well, we know he was inside the building.
Did he walk out of the building. Did the sniper
have a view through a window?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How did this work? Nobody's saying, but I suspect very
strongly that they got a clean shot and took it. Wow,
inside the building, because there is abolutely no information in
this account stating otherwise. Wow, that's a dramatic ending. Yeah, yeah,
you know it's a minor point, but I brought it
(02:11):
up earlier, whether it was in the bank or just
in a building that happened to have a bank, and
you know it's it's again, it's a minor point, but
it's interesting how incurious journalists are.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Have you ever seen the movie Dog Day Afternoon? Oh yeah,
al Pacino and he takes over the bank. That's a
good one best actor.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right, It's like the I was way back in the
day Nixon was in the White House when Oh yeah,
gazillion year old movie.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But it's it's your best best being a hostage in
a bank robbery situation, sort of movie I've ever seen.
If you want to relive what those poor people in
Bakersfield lived through today?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh yeah, yeah. Indeed, what do we have coming up
that I wanted to tease before I bring up my topic?
I have no idea. Later in the hour, I will
be bringing you really interesting information about how young men
in the United States and interestingly in Britain are not
working in horrific numbers, not working, not in school, not
(03:12):
trying to work, not doing anything productive. Yeah, that's an
interesting one right there. Looky, I hasn't truly hit yet.
Oh wow, good point.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So I was listening to a couple of podcasts yesterday
and got on this thought about the whole character issue
around politics, which I had kind of dismissed earlier this
week because I thought the country had moved past it.
I'm not talking about me personally, whether I care or not,
just it seemed to me that the country had kind
(03:42):
of moved past particularly around infidelity used to be back
in the day. If you're old enough, speaking of the
movie Dog Day Afternoon, way back in the way, back
in the day, if you were a politician in it
and it emerged that you had had an affair, you're done.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, almost deil Clinton. Obviously, I gotta go further back
in the day.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Further back in the day, you could have endless affairs
on your wife and nobody would report it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So we cared, but nobody knew.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
JFK may have had more, not just affairs just like
one night stands with people that were absolutely one hundred percent,
you know, on the whole power structure, if you believe
in that whole thing of any president we've ever had,
and he's held out held up as a shining light
(04:37):
for democracy because nobody reported on this sort of stuff
at the time. Then we went through a brief period,
particularly Gary Hart who was running for president in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Eighty eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
In nineteen eighty eight as a Democrat, probably would have
been the nominee, quite possibly the president, but he was
on a boat called the Monkey Business with a young
woman and it made the news in the first time
the news decided to report on a guy personal life
about this sort of stuff. It exploded, he had to
get out of the race because you can't have a
nominee for a party who's cheating on his wife. Well,
(05:09):
then we moved further down the road. Bill Clinton, all
kinds of stuff going on, get some peach days in office,
blah blah blah. Donald Trump, everything in his life ignored
by the party that, in theory, was really holding the
line on the character issue. Mattering ignored Donald Trump's personal life.
(05:30):
I'd kind of figured that. Well, I guess we've moved
on in a country and become more like Europe, Who's
always wondered you care about that if the guy is
gonna lead your country, whether or not he cheating his wife,
why do you hear about that?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Is the way Europe has always looked at it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
And uh, but this Graham Platner guy who's running for
wants to be a senator up there in Maine. All
those texts that came out over the weekend, the sexting
texts got way more attention in terms of driving out
of the race, it seems to.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Me than his Nazi tattoos or anything else. Yeah, tattoo
has gotten a fair amount of attention. But yeah, it
definitely added fuel to the fire. So were we back
to caring about the character issue?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And I guess the bigger question I have is should
we care about the character issue? Should we care about
what's going on between a husband and a wife, whether
it's the husband or the wife. And how about if
they're okay with it and they stayed in the marriage
and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Should that disqualify?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And we don't look at the CEOs of our company
that way necessarily.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Generally, know, although that has brought some guys down recently.
You know, I am going to let Senator John Fetterman
set up my answer to your query and clip fifty
one there, Michael.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
What kind of a creeper has been on a decade
on a platform like kick and send a dozen explicit
kinds of messages? And who knows what else.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Would it be better for Democrats if he was not
the candidate?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Here?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
All I'm saying it's like, you know, when I was
growing up, if someone had a clear Nazi tattoo on them,
you probably could conclude that there's a Nazi sympathizer. You know,
at some point you're going to continue to defend that
or dismiss.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That, And so I thought that was a good lead
into the way i'd react to your question, which is
it's it is no marital infidelity or you know, being
a player as they said probably twenty years ago on
the streets.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Those are two different things. I will quibble on that
after you say, what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Are you going to say? Sexual indiscretions used to be
disqualifying for a little while. Now they're just part of
the equation. And this guy just has too many negatives
the sexting thing or the being on kick which is
a hookup app, and the Nazi tattoo and rural mans,
white maners are stupid racists, and half a dozen other things.
(07:53):
I think the Democratic Party has just said, oh my god,
this guy has too much baggage.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, as listening to a mostly conservative podcast talking about
this yesterday, and they were making the infidelity on its
own should be a disqualifying issue the way it has
always been.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
In political history. And I don't know if that makes
sense or not. Well, as you said, that's not true,
though it hasn't always been. It was for a little while,
all right, But no, you just you quite clearly made
the point that for a while it was so do
(08:28):
you think no, not necessarily, and again it's part of
the package. Like Trump said, I'm going to close the
border and I'm going to halt inflation. You know, back
as well, you know, at various times, and the played
around on his wives or you got Joe Biden for instance. Well,
(08:50):
I guess I suppose in the primary process you had
a bunch of Republicans to choose from. It's clear, I
mean politics downstream of culture, so you know, you can
it's an interesting philosophical discussion, but the culture is already ruled,
and it's ruled. We're okay with it. Yeah, if the
guy's compelling enough on the issues and I like them, yeah,
(09:10):
it's not really my business.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think it should be presented as different things. As
a so if h, let's use a woman for instance,
instead of it always a guy because they can't by
a woman too.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
She had going to use a woman. That is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Say she had an affair, an affair with a dude,
lasted a while, and then it was their marriage was rocky,
and then they decided to stay together. Is not the
same thing as lots and lots of different like one
night stand, sleeping around on business trips. Those are different things,
aren't they Or are they not? Maybe they're not.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It seems like they're different things to me that the
spouse was unaware of, you know, as opposed to they
worked it out. Because this Platner guy, it looked like,
I mean, he had half a dozen different things going
a year ago, I mean very recently, certainly via text anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, and what the standard ought to be for sitting
around philosophizing is one question. What the standard actually is,
what it all filters down to voters is a different question.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, it's pretty interesting that not that long ago, nineteen
eighty eight is not that long ago, a really promising
could have gotten elected president dude, Gary Hart, Senator from
Colorado had to leave the race.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And again I point out that Bill Clinton and Hillary
barely got over that hump through some absolutely brilliant Macavelian
political maneuvering. So yeah, it was still a thing in
the early nineties as well.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, which isn't that long ago, And now we've moved
on from I got one more comment on that after this.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, this is crazy. You picture this you're at work,
your phone buzzes, it's your kid's number. It's your kid's
voice panics saying he's been in an accident and needs
money wired right now, and you would do anything for him,
right And that's exactly what the scammers are counting on.
Here's the play. Criminals buy your phone number and your
family details from data brokers. Then they grab three seconds
of your kid's voice off some video, clone it with
(11:21):
AI and make that call.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
And you can't stop them from cloning a voice because
of the technology exists, but you can make sure they
never get your number in the first place and can't
call you.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
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Speaker 4 (11:32):
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Speaker 4 (12:00):
I think if anybody had tapes of our show going
back thirty years, believe it or not, Joe and I
were doing the same show talking to each other when
the Bill Clinton impeachment was going on.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh crazy job. I'm telling you no advancement.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
How crazy is that We were talking about that during
the impeachment in ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I guess does it rise to an impeachable divisen?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But I would imagine there are clips of me saying
things like, if his wife can't trust him, how can
the country trust him? Which is kind of what a
lot of people believed for a very long time there.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
People weren't okay.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
With infidelity when Kennedy was present. In fact, it was
the other way around. It was so awful. People thought
we got to keep this a secret. You're right, I
have a great deal to say on this, but we
have no time. Perhaps we can return to the topic
after a short break.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I do have one more comment about the Clintons that
needs to be made, because there's definitely a completely different
topic around this that gets overlooked. Any who lots of
stuff on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Because I had never ever seen Joe like that before
or since?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Good god, I've seen better acting and porn. Seriously, Jilly,
you should have watched the beginning of Horny Housewives too.
You know, Joe Biden saying she had no idea her
husband was a little off. This is like Snoop Dogg's
wife being like, wait, he smokes weed?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Are you serious, my Snoop? That's funny. That is funny,
Jimmy faylaw.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So we're talking president about presidential politics? Are you just
politics in general? And I was bringing up the idea
because I heard a podcast just they were there really
making the whole this guy up in Main running for
Senate cheating on his wife thing was should be a
you can't be elected offence even without the other stuff.
(14:00):
And I didn't know that that's where we still are,
and I'm fine with us being there. I don't mind
that as a standard. I don't We should be able
to find enough qualified people that don't cheat on their
spouses that we could we could do that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Run a country that way. I'm just surprised that it
was still a topic though. Yeah yeah, yeah, boy. Every
aspect of this deserves like multiple paragraphs. I think one
thing at work here is And we've talked about this
in various contexts. In the twentieth century especially, you had
gatekeepers in journalism and they would decide which stories were
worthy of you hearing in which ones were not or
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reading or seeing or whatever. And that had some upside
to it, it had some downside to it. And at
some point they decided, yeah, marital and fidelity. It went
from is nobody's business JFK two, it's the hottest story
in the world and everybody wants to hear it and
it's relevant. Gary hart Ill, Clinton, et cetera. And I
just think we've become since there's much more visibility. Nothing
(14:54):
is out of bounds anymore. If a ball players are drunk,
you find out about it. Yeah. The re theme now
in journalism is A there are no gatekeepers, and b
you find out everything Tmz etcea. And so we have
maybe appropriately become much much more cynical about our politicians,
and we figure they're all grasping scumbags of one sort
or another. They're all flaw they're all egomaniacs, they're all
(15:17):
greed heads or sex pigs or whatever. What's some rare
exceptions like Ben sass And so if the package is
pretty good, the policy stances, my philosophy, taxes, babah bob.
But the guy cheats on his wife. Oh they're all
scumbags anyway, So yeah, I'm voting for that scumbag over
that scumbag.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So the thing that bothered me about the Clintons was
not as much as cheating on his wife, because that's
between him and Hillary. It's the destroying the women's lives
if the story became public, that's the crime. That's what
makes you despicable as a couple. You deciding you're okay.
(15:58):
You know, my husband's a certain kind of guy, and
I'm gonna put up with it. That's between the two
of you. You know, some people can do that. Some
people can I don't get it. But but the fact
that if one of these people becomes a public figure,
you absolutely destroy him as some sort of lying, drug addicted,
greedy whatever, destroy their lives so that you can continue
(16:21):
your cool lives is yes. Yes, Hillary says, yes, yes, yes,
that is awful. But here's the counter argument. He's a Democrat, right, right,
right right, Because you're.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right, the character assassination is inexcusable from anybody.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Man read the first I think it's in the first
chapter or two of George Stephanopolis's book about how Hillary
handled their first bimbo eruption. She is absolutely on board
in destroying some woman whose crime was being sexually attracted
to her husband.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That was their crime. Destroy her. Yes, she was all
about impeaching the witness, as they say in the trial business.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The woman who is going to break the glass ceiling
for all women, to empower all women because they've been
treated so partly for so long. And if you're one
of those women who sleeps with my husband, I'm going
to ruin your life.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Macavelian monster. Do we have time for this one minute now?
We don't really. I don't want to rush through things
that are cheap. Young men don't work in numbers that
are unprecedented in the history of mankind. In the US
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and in Europe. I did. This is big.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's news to me. I knew it was happening in
the United States. We've talked a fair amount about it.
It's a huge problem. You'd think it get more attention.
I didn't know it is happening in Europe also.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Though, right right, well, it's worse in Europe because they're
openly a socialist society and this is practically an inevitable
outcome of socialism. But yeah, it's very troubling the trend.
And as you pointed out, that's before AI hits whoops.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, yeah, take a look at that and a whole
bunch of other stuff. The bank heist tossage thing is over,
but we don't know all the details if those come out,
because it's gotten a fair amount of national attention.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We'll let you know about it. And we have what
might be the headline of the decade for you coming
up next side. Just got it? What that's right? What
that's right? Armstrong and get the.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Joe teased before the commercials the headline of the decade
and told me not to look at my phone, which
I have not. I assuming the headline of the decade
is not that Peebo Bryson has died.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh no, No, indeed, though he will be sorely missed,
this is not headline of the decade because of its importance,
but because it just well, I'll just read it to you.
Scientists find yeast in frozen mummies, guts use it to
make sour dough bread, frozen mummy up in the thunder
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or whatever, and you do an analysis and you say, hey,
this appears to be yeast, and somebody in the lab thinks, yeah, yeast.
You use that for bread? You want to make some
sour dough bread. What hey, this bread's really good? Did
you make it? Yeah? Funny story, yeaes frozen mummy, gut yeast.
(19:20):
There's probably some value. It's a broadcast report. I couldn't
be troubled to watch it. And studying ancient yeasts, but
I mean, boy, if I happen to be at a
cocktail party with you and that's what you do for
a living, lie, or let's talk about sports or something. Oh,
the structure of Middle Eastern ancient yeast was really inspiring. Eh. Boy.
(19:42):
So on a completely different topic, I came across these
two bits of information separately from each other. But and
this first one's about Britain. And there are a number
of really interesting, important stories about Britain right now. And
I was considering crafting one of my segments that of
course has to have a title in theme music, and
I was going to have the British music that we
(20:05):
always play, and I was going to entitle it. What's
all this then? But I decided to separate this story.
What's all this then? That was going to be the
introduction anyway, because this fits so well with an American story,
Britain's lost generation of workers. And they make the point
that if you pay people not to work, don't be
(20:25):
surprised when they don't work. I'm learning this lesson about
its welfare state.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
That seems like something that goes without saying. But socialists
don't get that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You're absolutely right, Yeah, yeah, thank you for jumping in there.
It's true. Britain's learning about this lesson about as welfare state.
The hard way is. A new government report revealed that
one in eight of its working age youth currently are
not employed, in school or in job training. It's about
a million. They point out, nearly sixty percent of these
(20:57):
utes aren't even looking for work, more than half have
never held a job, and nearly half of Britain's IDL
youth now claim to have a work a work limiting disability.
Did you give us a definition of what you mean
by youth working age youth? No? Let me find these
(21:17):
actual below? Is that including below eighteen Let me look, pa, Papa.
But let's see nearly half claim disability. More than forty
claim disability. Wow, and of those, I think forty two
percent cite mental health problems is their primary condition. I'm
I'm too anxious to work. I just don't have the motivation.
(21:41):
I just can't. My disability is anti motivation syndrome. I've
got a case of rather not do that. Uh yeah.
Rather than the hand up that liberals often claim, these
benefits have become a trap for recipients who face little
incentive to reintegrate into the workforce. About seventy percent of
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youth who claim a disability benefit are still on it
a decade later.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
How many times do I say to my kids in
various situations, you know how many things I did today
that I didn't want to do. It's a very long list.
When they have to do something that I want to do,
do you know why I did them? Because I didn't
have any choice.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah. It's it's an enormous loss to the economy too.
And the one the final thing I wanted to throw
in from this was that even when young people want
to work, the government makes it hard for them to
do so. If this is something Jack, you're dealing with,
right now, steadily rising payroll taxes for employers. A lot
of people don't even know that payroll taxes exist. If
(22:43):
I decide to hire you, the government says, aha, we're
taxing you on hiring a person whoa If you want
more of something, subsidize it. If you want less of something,
tax it, right But anyway, steadily arising payroll taxes for
employers in a minimum way that has increased by as
much as eighty four percent since twenty nineteen. For some
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younger age cohorts in Britain are pricing young inexperienced workers
out of the job market. As the great Tim Sandeffer
pointed out on this show many many years ago, you've
made it illegal for a person who's worth fifteen dollars
an hour to get a job with an employer says,
I'll pay you fifteen bucks an hour. Maybe we can
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train you up, maybe it can be worth twenty dollars
an hour some day, but sure, I'll make you that deal,
and we'll give you a job to get you started.
That is now illegal. That's how minimum wages work.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Tim is the only person I've ever heard present it
that way. That's the way it should always be presented
by anybody's against this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You're outlawing twelve dollars an hour jobs. Some jobs are
only worth twelve dollars an hour, or.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
The person is going to say now do it myself,
or I just won't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
On lots of stuff. Well, and if you are impressed
by the British numbers, wait till you hear America. Jason Riley,
writing about this in the Wall Street Journal, one in
three working age American men aren't so much as looking
for a job. And I want to get into that
in a second.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Every time that comes up, I remember sitting having coffee
with a friend of mine having this discussion. He said,
who's out of work? Who's not looking for a job.
I've never not been looking for a job when I
was out of work ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
How do you? How are you not looking for a job?
What is that? I almost dropped an S bomb right there.
I was gonna say, spit, I'm looking for a job.
What I've got a job? Usually? Yeah? Right? Anyway. Jason
Riley opens his column by quoting at length this bit
from Chris Rock. But I thought we would just go
ahead and play it for you.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You could tell what kind of neighborhood you win just
by who's not working. If you do in any neighborhood
in America at twelve fifteen in the afternoon on a Wednesday,
and you see women with sweatpants on coming out the gym,
pushing babies, riding bikes, that's right. Chances are you in
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a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
Whatever women ain't working is an amazing place to live.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That is where I want to live. Now, let's pitch
it up.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
If doing any neighborhood in America at twelve fifteen in
the aftitude on a Wednesday, and you see men in
sweatpants smoking cigarettes, hanging with they boys, lifting weights in
the yard, riding children's by cigarettes, did you are in danger?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That is so I remember the first time I saw that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
That is so true. It should be part of a
political speech.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Right right, I've got to apologize to you good people.
Hanson asked me, do you want the tighter version of that,
the shorter one, or the longer one. I said, ah,
the shorter one. But it leaves out some of the
great details that make Chris Rock great, Like he says
about the nice neighborhood with the women and the Lululemon pants.
He ought to update the bit. He said, there's probably
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a home foods right down the street. And then about
the other neighborhood, he said, man riding children's bicycles as
their actual transportation. Oh man, is he great? So getting
back to Jason Riley's point, mister Rock's funny, insightful bit
(26:26):
came to mind, he writes, as I read last month's
jobs report, which showed that the share of American men
in the labor force has dipped to record lows. According
to the Department of Labor, one in three men were
neither working nor looking for a job in April. Among
males twenty and older, the sixty six labor sixty six
percent labor force participation rate is down from seventy three
(26:47):
percent in two thousand and six. That's a seven percent drop.
Mister Rock was highlighting the correlation between unemployment crime, but
public safety isn't the only concern raised by population large
popular of idle young males.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
If you're able bodied and unemployed and not looking for
a job, to me, by definition, we have a policy failure.
By definition, I don't need to know anything else. You're
out of work and you're fine. You can work physically,
but not even looking for a job. That's a policy failure.
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We've made the safety net. The holes are too small.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Here's a nice, simple declarative sentence for you. A life
without gainful employment has become a viable alternative for an
increasing number of American males.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
See, I never spent a moment in my life thinking
that was an option. It probably has been lots of
places I lived. Luckily, I was raised in such a
way as to believe to not even look into it.
But yeah, it should not be a viable option. We
can get into it, or you probably are. Why that's
(27:56):
so bad for those people. It's bad for them, it's
bad for your happiness, it's bad for a call church,
bad for all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But how about me, the taxpayer who is going to work?
How bad is it for me to pay for you
to sit around and do freaking nothing. That's ridiculous, those
very payroll taxes we are just discussing. Yeah, Michael, you
seeman sensed. Yeah, there's no more shame. That's the problems
part of it. I've said that for years. When they
when they decided, you know, shame is a bad thing.
(28:21):
Nobody should be.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You should be ashamed that you're able bodied and living
off of other people.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You should be humiliated.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
You should be ashamed of yourself, shamed by other people
got up and went to work today so that you
could lay around and watch TV. You should be ashamed
of yourself. Yeah, they look, they look at it. Some
people who are in that situation look at the other
way around. You're a sap, You're a chump. You got
up and went to work today and I didn't have to, Or.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
They've guzzled down the delicious medicine of rationalization, said, the
system is stacked against us because capitalism is exploitive. Not
to mention the patriarchy and systemic racism and everything else.
You don't have a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Or you don't understand how bad my PTSD is around
whatever is you do?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh my god, talk openly about something I'm aware of.
But anyway, the long term rise in male joblessness does
not stem from an inability to find employment. It results
instead from an unwillingness to search for work. And while
labor force participation rates vary by race and ethnicity, factors
other than hiring discriminations seem to be playing a larger
(29:30):
role in the disparities. Quote. This is from a Landmark
book Men Without Work, about this very topic. That the
legacy of prejudice might seem to explain why prime age
male work rates and workforce participatient rates are lower for
blacks and whites today, But they cannot explain my work
rates and labor force partition race participation rates for white
(29:54):
men today are decidedly lower than they were for black
men in nineteen sixty. Wow. Nor can they explain why
labor participation rates of married black men twenty five to
fifty four are higher than for never married white men
in the same group.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know, one of our favorite phrases on this show
is they didn't raise themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Some of it has got to be that, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, like I just said, there is never a
moment in my adult life where I even considered the
option of figuring out how to live off the government.
That's got to do with your upbringing. So yeah, So
how did these people come out of families where this
was an option? Like I've told my son, he was
(30:43):
turned sixteen and Lisa, in California, you pretty much have
to be sixteen to have any shot at a job
of any kind. I told him, I've been asking him
now for months heading into the summer, have you applied
for a job, have you looked for a job whatever?
And then finally went with the you are either going
to find a job that you kind of like or
I'm going to find you a job that you might hate,
but you are going to have a job this summer
(31:05):
that I'm not considering that an option. But if you
didn't grow up in a family where working is considered
something you ought to do, I suppose you end up
a twenty year old who thinks, so, wonder what programs
I can go sign up for and I'll just stay home?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, yeap. Oh, then they get into immigration as well,
and how you know, labor participation rates. But Riley writes
the more likely culprit is a social safety net full
of generous government benefits that allow men who won't work
to subsist. Welfare and disability programs at state and federal
levels are well funded by the political left, are easily
(31:40):
gained by design, and it become a significant source of
income for men with no job and no interest in
finding them. Because these men often have no problem mooching
off the women who take them in. They're able to
live on welfare payments sent to others in the same household.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Boy, that's another one I hear in the single world.
Men who don't have jobs, who are out there trying
to date. You just don't have jobs. Wow, can't get
an erection and don't have a job. That's a bad
way to be.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Wow, that's what are you selling exactly? Oh like feed
your cat or at work? Oh that is attractive. Please
let me give myself to you, say the ladies of
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(33:27):
you walk him? Oh God, it's hot. I've got anxiety
and I can't get an erection, so let's let's move
in together. Oh boy, this is this is not merciful
speak of mercy. My final thought on this then.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No mercifulness for the laying around, not working crowd.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Zero compassion. Socialism poses as compassion, and well meaning people
fall for it, but where it inevitably ends is to
pay and control, because if the government is feeding you,
you dare not resist them, and whoever says they will
continue to feed you gets power. Sometimes it's well meeting
(34:12):
people making the mistake of thinking their kindness won't kill.
Sometimes it's a deliberate plot by socialists to take power.
But whatever whichever one of those it is, you must
reject socialism. It's social poison.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
More after this, well, it'd be nice if it was
quite human and taking away and obviously it's domesticated birds,
so if somebody could look after it.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Putting a cover in your car is a solution, but
every time you go, you go to take the cover off,
and it's no ideal. So now my car is so
bodily damaged, I'm not sure it could do any more damage.
So I'm just leaving it until I need to change
my car, and then I'll get it fixed. But which
time it will be resolved to fleet?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
What rogue parakeet in Scotland has been pecking at people's
cars and damaging the finish jack? And then as a
charming Angus a Scottish fellow named Angus because of course
he is talking about the loose parakeet. Do they understand
each other?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I believe they do. They seem to have a functioning society.
They produced delicious whiskey. They don't all just say what what?
I actually could understand that guy a lot better than
some Scots that I've heard.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, there's some fantastic YouTube videos of people in Ireland
or Scotland from way back in the day, like early
twentieth century black and white stuff, where it's just you
can't understand a thing and it's allegedly English.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, from back in the day before language gets homogenized
through media and interacting with people, if you're just like
in your village and never left or almost never left. Yeah.
That the dialects and accents are crazy in the US too. Yeah,
you could not, as a New Yorker communicate with a
Louisiana and like a rural Louisiana and hell I practically
(36:13):
can't now, for instance.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
It's amazing to me that accents, dialects, whatever, still exist
in the modern media. I would think they would have
been had gone away by now. And it's always been
confusing me. When we lived in North Carolina for a while,
worked in Charlotte, and there were people born and raised
there that had Southern accents, and people born and raised
there that had zero Southern accent, and I never quite
understood it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I've told the story before of years ago when I
was in high school in rural Virginia. We stopped to
help somebody whose car was dead, and they kept asking
for something, and I could not understand them. As a
Chicago lander. They're asking for war plars, war plars, and
finally somebody figured out wire pliers. They want needlenosed flyers,
(36:57):
like you know, they've studied German for half a semester
and like recognized one word finally. But these were native
English speakers. That guy had a parakeet attack his car.
It was the thing. Apparently he's doing it a great deal.
Can't imagine what the parakeet gets out of it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
But we gonna bring up the speed in a couple
of more stories. We got another hour to go. If
you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand. There's still count in ballots in California. They
will be for days, so don't think you missed anything
there yet.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
Police receiving a call about a man making a bomb
threat inside a Chase bank.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
A subjects a MAKESHIFTND and wires coming up under history.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Nearby city hall and police headquarters place on lockdown as
police negotiated with the suspect.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
People on their knees.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Authority say the suspect held people captive inside one of
the rooms in the bank, releasing two separately. An unknown
number remain inside.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Okay, that's been going on the entire time we've been
doing our radio show today, and just a horrifying scenario
that we've all seen play out in TV shows and
movies and often wondered ourselves what that would be like
to be in a bank with a person with a
gun or a bomb or whatever, and horrifying. Are you
gonna look me through it? And how is it going
to turn out? And et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
What kind of maniac is this? We have? Breaking news, Michael,
breaking news. The suspect who had barricaded himself inside a
bank building in Bakersfield. Now has one more bullet in
him than he used to, and he ain't gonna be
doing nothing anymore. He is dead as a hammer. A
sniper got him. Oh really yeah, wow, he's actually been
(01:37):
dead for some time, but they haven't announced it. They
were probably checking clearing the building and checking the bombs
et cetera, et cetera before they Now I assume.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
He was in well, we know he was inside the building.
Did he walk out of the building. Did the sniper
have a view through a window?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How did this work? Nobody's saying, but I suspect very
strongly that they got a clean shot and took it. Wow,
inside the building, because there is abolutely no information in
this account stating otherwise. Wow, that's a dramatic ending. Yeah, yeah,
you know it's a minor point, but I brought it
(02:11):
up earlier, whether it was in the bank or just
in a building that happened to have a bank, and
you know it's it's again, it's a minor point, but
it's interesting how incurious journalists are.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Have you ever seen the movie Dog Day Afternoon? Oh yeah,
al Pacino and he takes over the bank. That's a
good one best actor.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Right, It's like the I was way back in the
day Nixon was in the White House when Oh yeah,
gazillion year old movie.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
But it's it's your best best being a hostage in
a bank robbery situation, sort of movie I've ever seen.
If you want to relive what those poor people in
Bakersfield lived through today?
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Oh yeah, yeah. Indeed, what do we have coming up
that I wanted to tease before I bring up my topic?
I have no idea. Later in the hour, I will
be bringing you really interesting information about how young men
in the United States and interestingly in Britain are not
working in horrific numbers, not working, not in school, not
(03:12):
trying to work, not doing anything productive. Yeah, that's an
interesting one right there. Looky, I hasn't truly hit yet.
Oh wow, good point.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
So I was listening to a couple of podcasts yesterday
and got on this thought about the whole character issue
around politics, which I had kind of dismissed earlier this
week because I thought the country had moved past it.
I'm not talking about me personally, whether I care or not,
just it seemed to me that the country had kind
(03:42):
of moved past particularly around infidelity used to be back
in the day. If you're old enough, speaking of the
movie Dog Day Afternoon, way back in the way, back
in the day, if you were a politician in it
and it emerged that you had had an affair, you're done.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, almost deil Clinton. Obviously, I gotta go further back
in the day.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Further back in the day, you could have endless affairs
on your wife and nobody would report it.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
So we cared, but nobody knew.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
JFK may have had more, not just affairs just like
one night stands with people that were absolutely one hundred percent,
you know, on the whole power structure, if you believe
in that whole thing of any president we've ever had,
and he's held out held up as a shining light
(04:37):
for democracy because nobody reported on this sort of stuff
at the time. Then we went through a brief period,
particularly Gary Hart who was running for president in nineteen.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Eighty eighty eight.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
In nineteen eighty eight as a Democrat, probably would have
been the nominee, quite possibly the president, but he was
on a boat called the Monkey Business with a young
woman and it made the news in the first time
the news decided to report on a guy personal life
about this sort of stuff. It exploded, he had to
get out of the race because you can't have a
nominee for a party who's cheating on his wife. Well,
(05:09):
then we moved further down the road. Bill Clinton, all
kinds of stuff going on, get some peach days in office,
blah blah blah. Donald Trump, everything in his life ignored
by the party that, in theory, was really holding the
line on the character issue. Mattering ignored Donald Trump's personal life.
(05:30):
I'd kind of figured that. Well, I guess we've moved
on in a country and become more like Europe, Who's
always wondered you care about that if the guy is
gonna lead your country, whether or not he cheating his wife,
why do you hear about that?
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Is the way Europe has always looked at it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
And uh, but this Graham Platner guy who's running for
wants to be a senator up there in Maine. All
those texts that came out over the weekend, the sexting
texts got way more attention in terms of driving out
of the race, it seems to.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Me than his Nazi tattoos or anything else. Yeah, tattoo
has gotten a fair amount of attention. But yeah, it
definitely added fuel to the fire. So were we back
to caring about the character issue?
Speaker 4 (06:09):
And I guess the bigger question I have is should
we care about the character issue? Should we care about
what's going on between a husband and a wife, whether
it's the husband or the wife. And how about if
they're okay with it and they stayed in the marriage
and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Should that disqualify?
Speaker 4 (06:27):
And we don't look at the CEOs of our company
that way necessarily.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Generally, know, although that has brought some guys down recently.
You know, I am going to let Senator John Fetterman
set up my answer to your query and clip fifty
one there, Michael.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
What kind of a creeper has been on a decade
on a platform like kick and send a dozen explicit
kinds of messages? And who knows what else.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Would it be better for Democrats if he was not
the candidate?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Here?
Speaker 5 (06:56):
All I'm saying it's like, you know, when I was
growing up, if someone had a clear Nazi tattoo on them,
you probably could conclude that there's a Nazi sympathizer. You know,
at some point you're going to continue to defend that
or dismiss.
Speaker 1 (07:13):
That, And so I thought that was a good lead
into the way i'd react to your question, which is
it's it is no marital infidelity or you know, being
a player as they said probably twenty years ago on
the streets.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Those are two different things. I will quibble on that
after you say, what.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Are you going to say? Sexual indiscretions used to be
disqualifying for a little while. Now they're just part of
the equation. And this guy just has too many negatives
the sexting thing or the being on kick which is
a hookup app, and the Nazi tattoo and rural mans,
white maners are stupid racists, and half a dozen other things.
(07:53):
I think the Democratic Party has just said, oh my god,
this guy has too much baggage.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Yeah, as listening to a mostly conservative podcast talking about
this yesterday, and they were making the infidelity on its
own should be a disqualifying issue the way it has
always been.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
In political history. And I don't know if that makes
sense or not. Well, as you said, that's not true,
though it hasn't always been. It was for a little while,
all right, But no, you just you quite clearly made
the point that for a while it was so do
(08:28):
you think no, not necessarily, and again it's part of
the package. Like Trump said, I'm going to close the
border and I'm going to halt inflation. You know, back
as well, you know, at various times, and the played
around on his wives or you got Joe Biden for instance. Well,
(08:50):
I guess I suppose in the primary process you had
a bunch of Republicans to choose from. It's clear, I
mean politics downstream of culture, so you know, you can
it's an interesting philosophical discussion, but the culture is already ruled,
and it's ruled. We're okay with it. Yeah, if the
guy's compelling enough on the issues and I like them, yeah,
(09:10):
it's not really my business.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I think it should be presented as different things. As
a so if h, let's use a woman for instance,
instead of it always a guy because they can't by
a woman too.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
She had going to use a woman. That is disgusting.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Say she had an affair, an affair with a dude,
lasted a while, and then it was their marriage was rocky,
and then they decided to stay together. Is not the
same thing as lots and lots of different like one
night stand, sleeping around on business trips. Those are different things,
aren't they Or are they not? Maybe they're not.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
It seems like they're different things to me that the
spouse was unaware of, you know, as opposed to they
worked it out. Because this Platner guy, it looked like,
I mean, he had half a dozen different things going
a year ago, I mean very recently, certainly via text anyway.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, and what the standard ought to be for sitting
around philosophizing is one question. What the standard actually is,
what it all filters down to voters is a different question.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Well, it's pretty interesting that not that long ago, nineteen
eighty eight is not that long ago, a really promising
could have gotten elected president dude, Gary Hart, Senator from
Colorado had to leave the race.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
And again I point out that Bill Clinton and Hillary
barely got over that hump through some absolutely brilliant Macavelian
political maneuvering. So yeah, it was still a thing in
the early nineties as well.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Yeah, which isn't that long ago, And now we've moved
on from I got one more comment on that after this.
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Speaker 4 (12:00):
I think if anybody had tapes of our show going
back thirty years, believe it or not, Joe and I
were doing the same show talking to each other when
the Bill Clinton impeachment was going on.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh crazy job. I'm telling you no advancement.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
How crazy is that We were talking about that during
the impeachment in ninety eight.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
I guess does it rise to an impeachable divisen?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But I would imagine there are clips of me saying
things like, if his wife can't trust him, how can
the country trust him? Which is kind of what a
lot of people believed for a very long time there.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
People weren't okay.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
With infidelity when Kennedy was present. In fact, it was
the other way around. It was so awful. People thought
we got to keep this a secret. You're right, I
have a great deal to say on this, but we
have no time. Perhaps we can return to the topic
after a short break.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
I do have one more comment about the Clintons that
needs to be made, because there's definitely a completely different
topic around this that gets overlooked. Any who lots of
stuff on the way stay here.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Because I had never ever seen Joe like that before
or since?
Speaker 3 (13:12):
Good god, I've seen better acting and porn. Seriously, Jilly,
you should have watched the beginning of Horny Housewives too.
You know, Joe Biden saying she had no idea her
husband was a little off. This is like Snoop Dogg's
wife being like, wait, he smokes weed?
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Are you serious, my Snoop? That's funny. That is funny,
Jimmy faylaw.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
So we're talking president about presidential politics? Are you just
politics in general? And I was bringing up the idea
because I heard a podcast just they were there really
making the whole this guy up in Main running for
Senate cheating on his wife thing was should be a
you can't be elected offence even without the other stuff.
(14:00):
And I didn't know that that's where we still are,
and I'm fine with us being there. I don't mind
that as a standard. I don't We should be able
to find enough qualified people that don't cheat on their
spouses that we could we could do that.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Run a country that way. I'm just surprised that it
was still a topic though. Yeah yeah, yeah, boy. Every
aspect of this deserves like multiple paragraphs. I think one
thing at work here is And we've talked about this
in various contexts. In the twentieth century especially, you had
gatekeepers in journalism and they would decide which stories were
worthy of you hearing in which ones were not or
(14:33):
reading or seeing or whatever. And that had some upside
to it, it had some downside to it. And at
some point they decided, yeah, marital and fidelity. It went
from is nobody's business JFK two, it's the hottest story
in the world and everybody wants to hear it and
it's relevant. Gary hart Ill, Clinton, et cetera. And I
just think we've become since there's much more visibility. Nothing
(14:54):
is out of bounds anymore. If a ball players are drunk,
you find out about it. Yeah. The re theme now
in journalism is A there are no gatekeepers, and b
you find out everything Tmz etcea. And so we have
maybe appropriately become much much more cynical about our politicians,
and we figure they're all grasping scumbags of one sort
or another. They're all flaw they're all egomaniacs, they're all
(15:17):
greed heads or sex pigs or whatever. What's some rare
exceptions like Ben sass And so if the package is
pretty good, the policy stances, my philosophy, taxes, babah bob.
But the guy cheats on his wife. Oh they're all
scumbags anyway, So yeah, I'm voting for that scumbag over
that scumbag.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So the thing that bothered me about the Clintons was
not as much as cheating on his wife, because that's
between him and Hillary. It's the destroying the women's lives
if the story became public, that's the crime. That's what
makes you despicable as a couple. You deciding you're okay.
(15:58):
You know, my husband's a certain kind of guy, and
I'm gonna put up with it. That's between the two
of you. You know, some people can do that. Some
people can I don't get it. But but the fact
that if one of these people becomes a public figure,
you absolutely destroy him as some sort of lying, drug addicted,
greedy whatever, destroy their lives so that you can continue
(16:21):
your cool lives is yes. Yes, Hillary says, yes, yes, yes,
that is awful. But here's the counter argument. He's a Democrat, right, right,
right right, Because you're.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Right, the character assassination is inexcusable from anybody.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Man read the first I think it's in the first
chapter or two of George Stephanopolis's book about how Hillary
handled their first bimbo eruption. She is absolutely on board
in destroying some woman whose crime was being sexually attracted
to her husband.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That was their crime. Destroy her. Yes, she was all
about impeaching the witness, as they say in the trial business.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
The woman who is going to break the glass ceiling
for all women, to empower all women because they've been
treated so partly for so long. And if you're one
of those women who sleeps with my husband, I'm going
to ruin your life.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Macavelian monster. Do we have time for this one minute now?
We don't really. I don't want to rush through things
that are cheap. Young men don't work in numbers that
are unprecedented in the history of mankind. In the US
(17:32):
and in Europe. I did. This is big.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's news to me. I knew it was happening in
the United States. We've talked a fair amount about it.
It's a huge problem. You'd think it get more attention.
I didn't know it is happening in Europe also.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
Though, right right, well, it's worse in Europe because they're
openly a socialist society and this is practically an inevitable
outcome of socialism. But yeah, it's very troubling the trend.
And as you pointed out, that's before AI hits whoops.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yeah, yeah, take a look at that and a whole
bunch of other stuff. The bank heist tossage thing is over,
but we don't know all the details if those come out,
because it's gotten a fair amount of national attention.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We'll let you know about it. And we have what
might be the headline of the decade for you coming
up next side. Just got it? What that's right? What
that's right? Armstrong and get the.
Speaker 4 (18:21):
Joe teased before the commercials the headline of the decade
and told me not to look at my phone, which
I have not. I assuming the headline of the decade
is not that Peebo Bryson has died.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Uh no, No, indeed, though he will be sorely missed,
this is not headline of the decade because of its importance,
but because it just well, I'll just read it to you.
Scientists find yeast in frozen mummies, guts use it to
make sour dough bread, frozen mummy up in the thunder
(18:59):
or whatever, and you do an analysis and you say, hey,
this appears to be yeast, and somebody in the lab thinks, yeah, yeast.
You use that for bread? You want to make some
sour dough bread. What hey, this bread's really good? Did
you make it? Yeah? Funny story, yeaes frozen mummy, gut yeast.
(19:20):
There's probably some value. It's a broadcast report. I couldn't
be troubled to watch it. And studying ancient yeasts, but
I mean, boy, if I happen to be at a
cocktail party with you and that's what you do for
a living, lie, or let's talk about sports or something. Oh,
the structure of Middle Eastern ancient yeast was really inspiring. Eh. Boy.
(19:42):
So on a completely different topic, I came across these
two bits of information separately from each other. But and
this first one's about Britain. And there are a number
of really interesting, important stories about Britain right now. And
I was considering crafting one of my segments that of
course has to have a title in theme music, and
I was going to have the British music that we
(20:05):
always play, and I was going to entitle it. What's
all this then? But I decided to separate this story.
What's all this then? That was going to be the
introduction anyway, because this fits so well with an American story,
Britain's lost generation of workers. And they make the point
that if you pay people not to work, don't be
(20:25):
surprised when they don't work. I'm learning this lesson about
its welfare state.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
That seems like something that goes without saying. But socialists
don't get that.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
You're absolutely right, Yeah, yeah, thank you for jumping in there.
It's true. Britain's learning about this lesson about as welfare state.
The hard way is. A new government report revealed that
one in eight of its working age youth currently are
not employed, in school or in job training. It's about
a million. They point out, nearly sixty percent of these
(20:57):
utes aren't even looking for work, more than half have
never held a job, and nearly half of Britain's IDL
youth now claim to have a work a work limiting disability.
Did you give us a definition of what you mean
by youth working age youth? No? Let me find these
(21:17):
actual below? Is that including below eighteen Let me look, pa, Papa.
But let's see nearly half claim disability. More than forty
claim disability. Wow, and of those, I think forty two
percent cite mental health problems is their primary condition. I'm
I'm too anxious to work. I just don't have the motivation.
(21:41):
I just can't. My disability is anti motivation syndrome. I've
got a case of rather not do that. Uh yeah.
Rather than the hand up that liberals often claim, these
benefits have become a trap for recipients who face little
incentive to reintegrate into the workforce. About seventy percent of
(22:04):
youth who claim a disability benefit are still on it
a decade later.
Speaker 4 (22:08):
How many times do I say to my kids in
various situations, you know how many things I did today
that I didn't want to do. It's a very long list.
When they have to do something that I want to do,
do you know why I did them? Because I didn't
have any choice.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Yeah. It's it's an enormous loss to the economy too.
And the one the final thing I wanted to throw
in from this was that even when young people want
to work, the government makes it hard for them to
do so. If this is something Jack, you're dealing with,
right now, steadily rising payroll taxes for employers. A lot
of people don't even know that payroll taxes exist. If
(22:43):
I decide to hire you, the government says, aha, we're
taxing you on hiring a person whoa If you want
more of something, subsidize it. If you want less of something,
tax it, right But anyway, steadily arising payroll taxes for
employers in a minimum way that has increased by as
much as eighty four percent since twenty nineteen. For some
(23:04):
younger age cohorts in Britain are pricing young inexperienced workers
out of the job market. As the great Tim Sandeffer
pointed out on this show many many years ago, you've
made it illegal for a person who's worth fifteen dollars
an hour to get a job with an employer says,
I'll pay you fifteen bucks an hour. Maybe we can
(23:25):
train you up, maybe it can be worth twenty dollars
an hour some day, but sure, I'll make you that deal,
and we'll give you a job to get you started.
That is now illegal. That's how minimum wages work.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Tim is the only person I've ever heard present it
that way. That's the way it should always be presented
by anybody's against this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
You're outlawing twelve dollars an hour jobs. Some jobs are
only worth twelve dollars an hour, or.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
The person is going to say now do it myself,
or I just won't do it.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
On lots of stuff. Well, and if you are impressed
by the British numbers, wait till you hear America. Jason Riley,
writing about this in the Wall Street Journal, one in
three working age American men aren't so much as looking
for a job. And I want to get into that
in a second.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
Every time that comes up, I remember sitting having coffee
with a friend of mine having this discussion. He said,
who's out of work? Who's not looking for a job.
I've never not been looking for a job when I
was out of work ever in my life.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
How do you? How are you not looking for a job?
What is that? I almost dropped an S bomb right there.
I was gonna say, spit, I'm looking for a job.
What I've got a job? Usually? Yeah? Right? Anyway. Jason
Riley opens his column by quoting at length this bit
from Chris Rock. But I thought we would just go
ahead and play it for you.
Speaker 7 (24:40):
You could tell what kind of neighborhood you win just
by who's not working. If you do in any neighborhood
in America at twelve fifteen in the afternoon on a Wednesday,
and you see women with sweatpants on coming out the gym,
pushing babies, riding bikes, that's right. Chances are you in
(25:03):
a nice neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (25:06):
Whatever women ain't working is an amazing place to live.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
That is where I want to live. Now, let's pitch
it up.
Speaker 8 (25:13):
If doing any neighborhood in America at twelve fifteen in
the aftitude on a Wednesday, and you see men in
sweatpants smoking cigarettes, hanging with they boys, lifting weights in
the yard, riding children's by cigarettes, did you are in danger?
Speaker 1 (25:37):
That is so I remember the first time I saw that.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
That is so true. It should be part of a
political speech.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Right right, I've got to apologize to you good people.
Hanson asked me, do you want the tighter version of that,
the shorter one, or the longer one. I said, ah,
the shorter one. But it leaves out some of the
great details that make Chris Rock great, Like he says
about the nice neighborhood with the women and the Lululemon pants.
He ought to update the bit. He said, there's probably
(26:05):
a home foods right down the street. And then about
the other neighborhood, he said, man riding children's bicycles as
their actual transportation. Oh man, is he great? So getting
back to Jason Riley's point, mister Rock's funny, insightful bit
(26:26):
came to mind, he writes, as I read last month's
jobs report, which showed that the share of American men
in the labor force has dipped to record lows. According
to the Department of Labor, one in three men were
neither working nor looking for a job in April. Among
males twenty and older, the sixty six labor sixty six
percent labor force participation rate is down from seventy three
(26:47):
percent in two thousand and six. That's a seven percent drop.
Mister Rock was highlighting the correlation between unemployment crime, but
public safety isn't the only concern raised by population large
popular of idle young males.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
If you're able bodied and unemployed and not looking for
a job, to me, by definition, we have a policy failure.
By definition, I don't need to know anything else. You're
out of work and you're fine. You can work physically,
but not even looking for a job. That's a policy failure.
(27:22):
We've made the safety net. The holes are too small.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Here's a nice, simple declarative sentence for you. A life
without gainful employment has become a viable alternative for an
increasing number of American males.
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
See, I never spent a moment in my life thinking
that was an option. It probably has been lots of
places I lived. Luckily, I was raised in such a
way as to believe to not even look into it.
But yeah, it should not be a viable option. We
can get into it, or you probably are. Why that's
(27:56):
so bad for those people. It's bad for them, it's
bad for your happiness, it's bad for a call church,
bad for all kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
But how about me, the taxpayer who is going to work?
How bad is it for me to pay for you
to sit around and do freaking nothing. That's ridiculous, those
very payroll taxes we are just discussing. Yeah, Michael, you
seeman sensed. Yeah, there's no more shame. That's the problems
part of it. I've said that for years. When they
when they decided, you know, shame is a bad thing.
(28:21):
Nobody should be.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You should be ashamed that you're able bodied and living
off of other people.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
You should be humiliated.
Speaker 4 (28:28):
You should be ashamed of yourself, shamed by other people
got up and went to work today so that you
could lay around and watch TV. You should be ashamed
of yourself. Yeah, they look, they look at it. Some
people who are in that situation look at the other
way around. You're a sap, You're a chump. You got
up and went to work today and I didn't have to, Or.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
They've guzzled down the delicious medicine of rationalization, said, the
system is stacked against us because capitalism is exploitive. Not
to mention the patriarchy and systemic racism and everything else.
You don't have a chance.
Speaker 4 (29:06):
Or you don't understand how bad my PTSD is around
whatever is you do?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Oh my god, talk openly about something I'm aware of.
But anyway, the long term rise in male joblessness does
not stem from an inability to find employment. It results
instead from an unwillingness to search for work. And while
labor force participation rates vary by race and ethnicity, factors
other than hiring discriminations seem to be playing a larger
(29:30):
role in the disparities. Quote. This is from a Landmark
book Men Without Work, about this very topic. That the
legacy of prejudice might seem to explain why prime age
male work rates and workforce participatient rates are lower for
blacks and whites today, But they cannot explain my work
rates and labor force partition race participation rates for white
(29:54):
men today are decidedly lower than they were for black
men in nineteen sixty. Wow. Nor can they explain why
labor participation rates of married black men twenty five to
fifty four are higher than for never married white men
in the same group.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
You know, one of our favorite phrases on this show
is they didn't raise themselves.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Some of it has got to be that, doesn't it.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
I mean, like I just said, there is never a
moment in my adult life where I even considered the
option of figuring out how to live off the government.
That's got to do with your upbringing. So yeah, So
how did these people come out of families where this
was an option? Like I've told my son, he was
(30:43):
turned sixteen and Lisa, in California, you pretty much have
to be sixteen to have any shot at a job
of any kind. I told him, I've been asking him
now for months heading into the summer, have you applied
for a job, have you looked for a job whatever?
And then finally went with the you are either going
to find a job that you kind of like or
I'm going to find you a job that you might hate,
but you are going to have a job this summer
(31:05):
that I'm not considering that an option. But if you
didn't grow up in a family where working is considered
something you ought to do, I suppose you end up
a twenty year old who thinks, so, wonder what programs
I can go sign up for and I'll just stay home?
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Yeah, yeap. Oh, then they get into immigration as well,
and how you know, labor participation rates. But Riley writes
the more likely culprit is a social safety net full
of generous government benefits that allow men who won't work
to subsist. Welfare and disability programs at state and federal
levels are well funded by the political left, are easily
(31:40):
gained by design, and it become a significant source of
income for men with no job and no interest in
finding them. Because these men often have no problem mooching
off the women who take them in. They're able to
live on welfare payments sent to others in the same household.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
Boy, that's another one I hear in the single world.
Men who don't have jobs, who are out there trying
to date. You just don't have jobs. Wow, can't get
an erection and don't have a job. That's a bad
way to be.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
Wow, that's what are you selling exactly? Oh like feed
your cat or at work? Oh that is attractive. Please
let me give myself to you, say the ladies of
the world. All right. One more thought on this after
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you brought your pop home, you made an agreement with
(32:26):
him because you don't let him run around and hunt game. Right,
You feed him and you agreed to take care of
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What if their dog food isn't really doing that effectively
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dog better? I can. I could feed your dog while
you're at work. I could sprinkle or Rofgreens on your
dog's food because you got to be at work. Will
(33:27):
you walk him? Oh God, it's hot. I've got anxiety
and I can't get an erection, so let's let's move
in together. Oh boy, this is this is not merciful
speak of mercy. My final thought on this then.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
No mercifulness for the laying around, not working crowd.
Speaker 1 (33:48):
Zero compassion. Socialism poses as compassion, and well meaning people
fall for it, but where it inevitably ends is to
pay and control, because if the government is feeding you,
you dare not resist them, and whoever says they will
continue to feed you gets power. Sometimes it's well meeting
(34:12):
people making the mistake of thinking their kindness won't kill.
Sometimes it's a deliberate plot by socialists to take power.
But whatever whichever one of those it is, you must
reject socialism. It's social poison.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
More after this, well, it'd be nice if it was
quite human and taking away and obviously it's domesticated birds,
so if somebody could look after it.
Speaker 9 (34:43):
Putting a cover in your car is a solution, but
every time you go, you go to take the cover off,
and it's no ideal. So now my car is so
bodily damaged, I'm not sure it could do any more damage.
So I'm just leaving it until I need to change
my car, and then I'll get it fixed. But which
time it will be resolved to fleet?
Speaker 1 (35:01):
What rogue parakeet in Scotland has been pecking at people's
cars and damaging the finish jack? And then as a
charming Angus a Scottish fellow named Angus because of course
he is talking about the loose parakeet. Do they understand
each other?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
There?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
I believe they do. They seem to have a functioning society.
They produced delicious whiskey. They don't all just say what what?
I actually could understand that guy a lot better than
some Scots that I've heard.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Yeah, there's some fantastic YouTube videos of people in Ireland
or Scotland from way back in the day, like early
twentieth century black and white stuff, where it's just you
can't understand a thing and it's allegedly English.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, from back in the day before language gets homogenized
through media and interacting with people, if you're just like
in your village and never left or almost never left. Yeah.
That the dialects and accents are crazy in the US too. Yeah,
you could not, as a New Yorker communicate with a
Louisiana and like a rural Louisiana and hell I practically
(36:13):
can't now, for instance.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
It's amazing to me that accents, dialects, whatever, still exist
in the modern media. I would think they would have
been had gone away by now. And it's always been
confusing me. When we lived in North Carolina for a while,
worked in Charlotte, and there were people born and raised
there that had Southern accents, and people born and raised
there that had zero Southern accent, and I never quite
understood it.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
I've told the story before of years ago when I
was in high school in rural Virginia. We stopped to
help somebody whose car was dead, and they kept asking
for something, and I could not understand them. As a
Chicago lander. They're asking for war plars, war plars, and
finally somebody figured out wire pliers. They want needlenosed flyers,
(36:57):
like you know, they've studied German for half a semester
and like recognized one word finally. But these were native
English speakers. That guy had a parakeet attack his car.
It was the thing. Apparently he's doing it a great deal.
Can't imagine what the parakeet gets out of it.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
But we gonna bring up the speed in a couple
of more stories. We got another hour to go. If
you miss a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty
on demand. There's still count in ballots in California. They
will be for days, so don't think you missed anything
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