July 8, 2026 • 36 mins
Hour Three of A&G features...
- Katy Grimes (CA Globe) talks to Jack about Newsom's hinky finances & medical fraud in CA.
- Trump comments on Iran from the NATO summit...
- Ukraine's president, with the quote of the day.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Armstrong and Jetty and no Key Armstrong and Getty us
considering playing this report about Doge.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You remember Doge that Elon Musk led and the goal
was to cut waste in government and all that sort
of stuff. Well, we're we're about to talk about the
unbelievable waste we've got, for instance, in California with taxpayer money,
and I'm sure it's true in lots of other states,
and it's federal dollars, so it matters a lot of
it is federal dollars, and it matters to all of
(00:50):
you out there. We'll talk about that in a second,
but right now, I'd like to welcome to the show.
Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe,
Katie's longtime investigative journalists covered in California state capital. Katie,
how are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jack? Doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Before we get to this unbelievable welfare fraud story, how
much trouble is Gavin and his wife in with this?
Where did their money come from? Scandal? Is this a
real story.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I do believe it is a real story, and it's
because this kind of nonprofit and geo scandal has been
building for a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Frankly, some years.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Ago, like two thousand and six, twenty ten, I was
reporting fraudulent nonprofits to the California Attorney General back then,
and that was when Jerry Brown was still agy and
nothing ever happened. And then we watched them just exponentially
grow and they become like this this shadow government in
California where tons of taxpayer money goes into them. Reporters
(01:59):
like me, that's where it stops, because public records requests,
you know, stop at the door of the nonprofit. And
it's just been this massive, uh just this is this
black market spending almost and unfortunately we've been reporting and
(02:19):
many other news outlets in the stay have been reporting
on the newsoms on the first partners easy nonprofits. Besides
just you know, kind of the filth that she produces
and then requires public schools to buy these weird videos.
They've you know, she's been taking a lot of money
(02:40):
out of these nonprofits as well. And I think it
could be almost like the textbookcase for as a warning
shot across the bow to a lot of other politicians
who are tied into nonprofits.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, they need doubt law the term nonprofit because yeah,
it's just ridiculous and I can't believe people for it
for so long. Hopefully that is coming to an end.
Just the brief version is you start a nonprofit, you
called a nonprofit, and no, you don't show any profits,
but you bring in lots of money, and you know
(03:14):
some of your expenditures are well you or you need
a salary. As the person who runs a nonprofit, it
turns out your salary is way more than you'd make
in the private sector doing something.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And of course you need a car to.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Drive, even though in the modern world very few people
get cars anymore. You're going to have a car, and
you travel a lot, and you know you have to stay.
You shouldn't stay have to stay in a motel six,
you should have to stay in a decent hotel. Blob
blab blab meals, trips, vacations, salaries, all kinds of crap,
and you call it a nonprofit.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
When I go digging into the irs forums that nonprofits
have to file every year, you cannot believe the expenditures
for travel conferences. I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars
for some of the smallest nonprofits. It's just this lifestyle
money that is being so abused, and you know, unfortunately
they're making it bad for the legitimate nonprofits that have
(04:09):
been around a long time.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm providing, you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Know, actual cancer services or research or things like that.
I think the whole thing should be scrapped and if
you're legitimate, reapply and start over.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It'd be something if Gavin Newsom and his wife actually
either their timing was wrong or they pushed it too
farcas so many politicians been doing this for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I mean, we had city council members in Sacramento where
I live who had their own nonprofits and they were
totally tapped into the city budgets, and we'd write about it,
and people was kind of yawn and scratch and look away.
You know, It's just like it never caught on that
this was fraud.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
The number of politicians that live lifestyles of the super
rich is amazing. And I'll include Trump was rich already,
but he he and his family are getting rich off
all kinds of different things. But the whole Biden crime
family thing that they had gone the Clinton Foundation.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's just it's just something you do.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The Clintons seem to have perfected it because we watched
nonprofits just explode after the Clinton Global Initiative was done,
and I think a lot of other politicians were emboldened
by that and kind of modeled theirs after what the
Clintons did.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So this scandal, because you know, the Trump Justice Department
goes after Gavin Newsom, it looks like, you know what
it looks like. But you think there is plenty of
there there that this could this could turn out to
be a problem for Gavin wanting to run for president.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Oh absolutely, I really do.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It's just you know, so in addition to their their
weird non her Missus Newson's weird nonprofits. Remember the Newsom's
have these two homes that they did not purchase but
were eventually gifted to that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We all live that way, right, We all have homes
given to us, several homes.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's that's a normal lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And and the LLC that was created two separate LLCs,
but they just were formed the day before the homes
closed the home they live in now in Marina is
a nine million dollar home. The one they still have
in Sacramento is three point eight million dollars, and they
didn't buy either one of them. So there's a lot
of weirdness around the Newsome's lifestyle, including remember during COVID,
(06:31):
I reported that they were caught taking a trip to
Cabo San Lucas. Okay, whatever, it sounds like, no big deal,
except that they stayed in a twenty six thousand dollars
a night dhaka.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Twenty six thousand dollars a night, yes.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Owned by some Russian oligarch that was clearly gifted to them.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well you don't, you don't do that for nothing in return?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Exactly, God, that's a what that's now, that's luxurious.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I can't even imagine what that looks like. And then
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
A California Post had the story last week of the
timing of so many of these appointments where somebody would
give a bunch of money to new some one of
their nonprofits and then two days later they'd get named
the blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Always Yeah, there's a lot of quid pro quo going
around and I'm sure all of it's being looked at,
not just Missus Newsom's nonprofits.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I am. I don't know if cynical's a right word,
might be. I feel like this happens so often and
nothing ever comes of it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I just.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
My expectations for the people get away with this sort
of crap over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I know the frustration because I write a lot about it,
my research a lot about it, and we rarely see
anything happen. I think though, that there's so much of
this garbage going on in California. I mean, the Somali
fraud up in in Menta is one thing, but boy,
when that was discovered, those of us in California who
(08:04):
are aware of fraud, Oh yeah, hold my beer. Watch
what California does.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That is a great tease, Katie Grimes, because this is
what I want to do on to take a break
and come back and get into your story about the
undercover LA raid that exposed California's multi million dollar welfare fraud,
tons of money being stolen. God, the fact that Mayor
Mamdani the other day put out that video he said
(08:30):
children go hungry in America while Elon Musk's hunger only
grows for more.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Power and money.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When you see all this money that's being stolen in
the Snap food programs, unbelievable. Katie Grimes will explain it
all to us coming up, Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Hey Eddie.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Again.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Mayor Mandani.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
His response to Trump for fourth of July was this
video he put out. We need to talk more about later.
He meant, all the kids going to bed hungry in
this country, how awful it is. We have a trillionaire
when kids are going to bed hungry. If your kid
is going to bed hungry, you are not good at
figuring out where the food is. Because, for instance, in California,
the Snap food program the largest in the country, twelve
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point five billion dollars. Twelve point five billion dollars the
Snap food program for one state. Anyway, there's a lot
of fraud going on. There was a raid Thursday, July third,
so the day before the fourth of July got lost
in the news flow. That's why we have Katie Grimes
on today to tell us about it. Katie, what happened show?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
This was a kind of multi agency raid.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
It was the US Department of Agriculture was involved, Homeland
Security was involved, LAPD was involved, and Assistant US Attorney
Bill Is Saley from the Central District in LA was involved.
And what was going on.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So they did this big raid at a Snap.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Food stamp benefits store in skid Row in LA. And
as we know, this is you know, the Trump administration
said they were going to crack down on fraud in general,
but you know, especially federally funded programs that are experiencing
we'll say a lot of fraud like this, and welfare
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fraud is one of the worst. As you said, we
have twelve point five billion dollars in our SNAP, which
is food stamps program in California. Eleven percent of the
program's payments are fraudulent. They're issued in error, meaning there's
either duplicates or they're people from out of state or
out of the country. I mean, eleven percent fraud out
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of twelve point five billion is an awful lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So, and this was just one of six raids on
July third. So what happened was and the California Post
exclusively reported this. They did an incredible job. Six stores
were charged with selling Snap food stamp benefits in exchange
for cash, while they say another twenty seven stores were
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charged with exchanging snap benefits for all kinds of prohibitive
ideas meeting you know, alcohol, beer, vaping devices, et cetera.
Part of the reason I thought that this was so
interesting as well.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
As progress, is that.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Our California budget, one third of it is made up
of federal funding. And I say, this is why Gavin
Newsom is losing his mind over federal funding cuts and
why he and our Attorney General Robanta continues suing the
Trump administration. It's over these a lot of these funding cuts.
But what's even more interesting is almost four and five
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federal dollars dollars that flow through our budget currently right
now support health and human serve. So it's all this
low income food stamp welfare, you know, the multi layers
of programs, and those are the ones that the Trump
administration is looking at for fraud.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And you mentioned Doge earlier.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Remember when Elon Musk and his Dose team had been
at it for a few months, he came out and
said he thinks that half of the federal budget was fraud.
And if we could just uncover and expose and get
rid of all the frauds, that Americans wouldn't have to
pay income taxes.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Right, that tells you how bad it is.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right, it's depressing. It is just depressing. Again, my belief
that will make much headway in eliminating this fraud is
not very high, which maybe I'm too cynical, but like
you said, we saw what happened in Minnesota. In California
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was like hold food stamps and went even bigger. So
the reason people want to exchange their Snap stuff for
cash is so that you can buy because you're not
supposed to be able to buy cigarettes and pop and
vape pens and everything else with Snap benefits.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
We did a story in June on a federal report
that was issued by the US Department of Health and
Human Services, and it revealed this is stunning, California receives
eighty percent of all of the federal funding for illegal
immigrant families, which is also part of this welfare money
in the entire country. Yeah, so in the entire country,
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California gets eighty percent of it. So naturally the federal
government is looking at California and number one, why we're
getting so much and it shouldn't be going to illegal immigrants,
but it does. And you know how much of that
is fraud.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
In addition, so those of you who are listening across
cost the country don't live in California, you have a
reason to care about.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This other states, other people who live.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
In other states, because you know, we live in California
and in theory vote for this crap.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't vote for it, but enough people do.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But the federal dollars those who live in other responsible states,
you should be very angry at California for wasting your money.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I totally agree, and especially when you hear Gavin Newsom,
you know, boasting that California sends more to the federal
government than it takes. All of these numbers that I
just shared with you prove that that's total bs. We're
taking a lot more than we're creating.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I wish I had the time to do this because
I was really angry about Mamdani's speech the other day
where he had that line about kids go to bed
hungry in this country, while Elon Musk only hungers for
more money in power. There are so many different programs
at every level of your city, county, and state and
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federal money. Then you're just not trying very hard to
get food for your kids.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, I agree, And for the politicians that continually shriek
about our children are going to bed hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
If you've walked.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
By a California elementary school anytime recently, I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Noticed that the majority of the kids are overweight.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is something. Well, keep uncovering the fraud.
I mean, at least we can scream about it. I don't,
like I said, I'm not optimistic that anything good will happen,
but that is absolutely amazing. Eleven percent of twelve plus
billion dollars we know is wasted, and it could be
more than that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, it's it's disheartening, definitely, but yes, I will definitely.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Stay on this.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Thank you, Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the
California Globe, appreciate your time today. Those stories are just
so dang maddening and explains how you can walk by
somebody on the street who looks down and out, but
they got an iPhone and they they're they're getting by,
they're doing all right. We've got so many different programs
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with so much money sloshing around, and then you can
trade in your your government card or whatever you have,
so you can buy booze and cigarettes and vake pens
and whatever the heck you want to buy.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's just so depressing. You get up and go to
work every day to try to earn money.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You have to give over way too much the government,
and then it gets wasted on this crap. Children going
to bed hungry at night while Elon musk on lay
hungers for more power and money. You freaking socialists in
your line of crap. I got more on that coming
up a little bit later. I will get too. Drives
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me nuts. We're ar with Iran again. I don't know
if you're following the news. In the last twenty four hours,
Trump said the m ou the ceasefire, that whole thing
is over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We'll play that for you.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That all happened while you were asleep last night, and
that's a pretty big deal if the war is back on.
We talked to Mike Liines about that earlier. I'll summarize
a little a little bit of that when we come
back next. Trump is meeting with NATO right now, and
there's been news made since we went on the air today.
We'll have the very latest if you miss it. Gets
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I've just spilled coffee all over, including all over my
iPhone and trying to clean that off.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
And it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But luckily, because I took my workplace violence training just yesterday,
I am not going to overreact and punch anybody or
break anything because of the workplace violence training.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'll have to talk about that later. Lawyers run the world. Man.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You realize all that training you take at work, all
of it is just so that they can say, well,
we told them not to sexually harass anybody, or punch
anybody or steal anything. It's all lawyer thing. They don't
expect it to actually work her. And it's so such
a waste of time and so on. How many gazillions
of dollars of US worker productivity is wasted on workplace training? God,
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and I know it's worse than the government. I have
a friend who works in the government and they're doing
it constantly, and they're longer and even more pointless than
the rest of us. AnyWho, I think I got all
the coffee cleaned off my phone, kind of. There's some
pretty big news being made in the last dozen hours
as we're bombing Iran again. Trump is a Overdare in
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Europe meeting with the NATO leaders, Iran was firing on
ships in the straight of horror moves. Right, So we
got this MoU the Memorandum of understanding, and the deal
was supposed to be we end our blockade, Iran lets
the ships through.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I thought this was a terrible deal.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We allow Ran to make tons of money selling oil again,
and then later we'll sit down and have our discussions
about nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The later nuclear weapons discussion, according to Wall Street Journal today,
never happened. They've made zero progress on the nuclear weapons stuff.
I don't know why Iran started firing on ships in
the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They got a good deal going. That shows you.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That actually shows you maybe that's why Trump is so frustrated.
It actually shows you how crazy they are. They got
a good deal for them. They were making money again
off the oil. They're dragging their feet on the nuclear
stuff so they can continue to try to get a
nuclear weapon. And the longer it goes on the closer
we get through the midterm elections, the less likely it
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is the war starts back up. I don't know why
they would fire on these ships. I think it's because
they're actually as Trump once called them, crazy mfforts. I
think they actually are. But so they were firing on chips.
We bombed the heck out of a ran yesterday. Trump
was asked today by reporters, where are we on the whole?
MoU this is how it went.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
To see fire over?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If the seat fire done, is the emo you dead?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's a very interesting question to me. I think it's over.
I don't want to deal with him with the scum.
You know what scum is. There's gum, there's sick people.
They're lit by sick people, and they're vicious, violent people,
and if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to
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our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people, Steve Woodcuff,
Jared Kushier, but they have to come back to me.
As far as I'm concerned, it's just a.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Waste of time dealing with them. They're liars.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
We make a deal, and if I make a deal
with him, we have a deal, and he goes out,
he talks, we make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon.
We make a deal, they go outside talk to the
press say we never even talked about it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. So as I'm concerned,
it's over.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, he's right about that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The only interesting part to me is why it took
him till now to figure this out. Similar with Vladimir Putin,
and we got some stuff he said about Ukraine and
that war. But why it's taking him so long to
catch on that the Islamo fascists in Iran or the
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ego megalomaniac dictator of Russia aren't like dealing with business
people in the United States. I don't know why it's
so hard for him to catch out to He's just
assuming everybody does what's in their best financial interest, because
that's the way most business people are, like almost all
of them, especially in the United States. But that ain't
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the way it is with the Iranian Republican Guard or
whatever they're called. They're crazy people. We hit him pretty
hard yesterday. Trump talks about that, and so.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
We hit him very hard last night, very hard. I
would say twenty to one, twenty times tougher. I told
him every time we hit then. Of course they're dirty players,
so they go after everyone probably including me. I've been
number one on the list for years.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I hope he's actually fed up and by the end
of the day, we don't hear him saying I had
a good talk with He'll name somebody, and things are
looking really, really good. So though, we're gonna let him
make money again, because we announced yesterday the Treasury Secretary
cut off their oil money again. They're no longer allowed
to sell oil and make money, thank god. But I
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hope Trump doesn't change his mind.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
He goes on this. Me not talks with their eye
will not risue him. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
They can talk, but I think they're wasting that time.
They are a bunch of lying guys. I do it
in my whole life. That's all I do is zeals.
My whole life is that how I became resident. I
guess that's a deal too, right. But I made a
lot of money, a lot of great success, now tremendous success.
Everything I did, I was successful. And I deal with
these guys, and I say, this is from a different school.
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They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people. They've hurt their people.
They killed fifty four thousand people as of now. That
were protesting. You know when people say, how come they
haven't taken over? The kid take over because they're dead.
They killed them. Nobody's going to take over. They have
no guns and the other side of his machine guns,
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and they're killing them with the press as they're reported.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But they're bad people.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
They're bad people, and frankly, I don't want to waste
my time with them now. I'll let our wonderful negotiators
keep talking if they want.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But I don't see it. I don't like these people.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I hope he means it and like he's like fully
absorbed who these people are. Let's go back and here,
let's remember jd Vance saying this June fifteenth, So what
is that three weeks ago June fifteenth. June fifteenth to
jd Vance's vice president said this about the very people
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that Donald Trump just said are crazy cuckoo. I don't
like them. They're scumbags, you can't trust them, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
The coolest thing about the progress we've made over the
last few weeks is that you see people within the
Iranian system, senior leadership, even IERGC officials, say, you know what,
we may have some animosity we may have some mistrust,
but we recognize the way that we've done business with
the United States for forty seven years is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Let's try something else that is cool, JD.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
We mocked that at the time. So JD is a
super smart guy and a wily guy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Did he believe that?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Did he think we were stupid enough to believe that?
Did he think that that would hold? It didn't hold
very long. It isn't really cool. The IRGC did not decide,
you know what, that was a mistake. That whole death
to America, death Israel thing. We changed our mind. I
can't wait until the history books are written. I swear
this is going to be a fascinating behind the scenes
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story because I have no idea what's going on there.
Why JD and Trump pretended this, I don't know. If
it's the presumptive close thing that salespeople do that sometimes
works with weak people. These are not weak people we're
dealing with.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I wanted to get this Byron York writes this in
the Washington Examiner today, and this might be where I
am on the war. So Trump says of the US
Iran memorandum of understanding as far as I'm concerned, it's over. Okay,
So now is there really any need to finish the
job in Iran? Back to Byron York. Now is there
any need to finish the job in Iran? Remember what
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worked in the past. No sanctions, relief, economic pressure, and
not a penny from the United States. The nuclear program
is could put for some period of years, we hope,
and the world's oil powers are moving away from reliance
on the Strait. That's true, So going forward, keep up
the economic pressure, hit back hard whenever Iran attacks a
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ship in the Strait. Forget about any sort of treaty
or agreement. I agree. If more extensive bombing is needed
in the future, do it. Then there's no need for
a neat, clean ending to this. Just keep up the
pressure and move on. That might be where I am
on this. We don't need to bomb them until they
come to the negotiating table and sign something. We demand
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that the Strait is open, or we bomb them. I'm
going to assume that they allow the Strait to be open,
because at some point they'll realize they've got no choice
the making a deal for the nuclear stuff. We bomb
the heck out of their program. We set them back
quite a while. We'll have to keep our eye on
it and all that sort of stuff best we can.
Around Israel is obviously keeping their eye on it, satellites
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and spies and everything else we've done, but we continue
to squeeze him economically. We don't let them make money
off of oil until the damn regime falls, which it
will eventually, might take years, but will eventually. And unfortunately,
the coming to the rescue of the Iranian people. You
(27:19):
know your time is at hand. Unfortunately that's over. That's
not true, and that ain't gonna happen at least on
the timetable that humanity would like. Interesting number Trump throughout there,
did he say fifty four thousand protesters were killed. I
don't know if he just reversed the numbers from the
forty five that people have been saying for a while,
(27:41):
or if he has new intelligence that's fifty four. Whatever
the number is, it's one of the largest slaying of
peaceful protesters in world history, certainly in the modern era.
Much bigger t than Teman Square in China in nineteen
(28:03):
eighty nine. I think it was much bigger than that.
Doesn't get the attention that it deserves doesn't get the
full weight of discussion. There need to be documentaries and
movies and all kinds of different stuff about that books,
because that is a really big deal. That's who we're
dealing with. And the point I'm making is that's who
(28:23):
we're dealing with, the kind of people that machine gun
forty fifty thousand of their own citizens to say in power.
And Trump thought he was going to do a deal
where we'll give you your oil money up front on
the condition that you'll then sit down and have a
discussion about the nuclear stuff. Again, the Wall Street Journal
reporting today that they had made zero headway on the
(28:45):
nuclear issues and zero headway on any of the technical
stuff about how much uranium you get to keep and
inspections and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So they got the money and nothing on the nukes,
just like Picar, everybody, including Fox predicted. The only people
pretty much in the country that believe this was gonna
work Trump, jd Vance, and a couple other people in
the cabinet who would say nice things, but nobody else
believe it is going to work, and lo and behold
it to not. So that's where we are on that.
(29:19):
I don't know if we're going to keep up the bombing.
Trump did say earlier that we're likely to hit them
really hard again tonight. I like when Trump said they're
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Speaker 2 (30:36):
So that's where we are on the Warren Iran.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I do want to hit a couple of things with
what Trump had to say about Russia and Ukraine. He
talked with Zelensky today and then he was supposed to
jump on the phone with Putin. There's been no reporting
on that yet. Got a bunch of other stuff I
want to get to. Also, the way that WNBA treats
Caitlin Clark is just insane. But the National Review nailed
(30:58):
down the reason for it and it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Stick around.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
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Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh, I just saw what Zelensky said. I just saw
what Zelensky said. That is fantastic. We're gonna have to
play that clip first.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
This about fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
For some reason, it was National Fried Chicken Day or
something like that, and uh, a couple of late night
comics took a swing at that.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Police say a texasman stabbed his roommate this weekend during
a fight over a piece of fried chicken. So even
if you don't eat the fried chicken, it will still
find a way to kill you.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
KFC.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
In the news, KFC has come out with a sunscreen
that makes you smell like fried chicken. Of course, if
you want to smell like KFC, you could just ride
around in any single guy's car.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
A man in New York City is claiming that he
easily found a half smoked a joint in his Popeye
stick a sandwich. Well, at least we know the chicken
was having a good time when it died.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I always feel horrible after I ate KFC. I love
the taste of it, but it makes me feel just awful.
I ate Chick fil A the other day. My town
won't allow chick fil A in it because they're Christian,
and good Lord, you wouldn't want Christians in your town.
But chick fil A is great. That is a great sandwich,
and I don't feel gross after it like I do
(32:30):
after the colonel. Sorry colonel, and I appreciate your service
to our country, but your chickens super greasy. So here's
a funny thing that Zelensky said, Trump is at the
NATO meeting, and he was sitting down with the President
of Ukraine, who has had one of the hardest jobs
on planet Earth for the last four years, defending himself
against the onslaught of the Russian Army. He has seen
(32:54):
things no human beings should ever have to see. AnyWho,
he is still trying to goociate with Trump to get
more help because they're on the front foot and they
got a decent chance of winning this thing, or at
least getting Putin to quit. So Trump, talking to Zelensky,
talked to Putin also, and here's how the conversation went present.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Putin said, I would love to meet in Moscow, and
I said, I don't think you know, I have to
put myself in this position.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know that he'd go to Moscow.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Maybe he would.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Would you go to Moscow?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's difficult. There are lots of Ukrainian drones.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They are.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
If you didn't catch that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
First of all, it'd be ridiculous, the idea of President
Zelensky going to Moscow. You think they wouldn't kill him.
They absolutely would kill him. But anyway, him saying, well,
it's a little dangerous there's a lot of Ukrainian drones there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
They've been blowing up stuff left and right in Moscow
and all over the country. Actually, we'll get into a
little more of that on an Hour four. Got two
big wars going on at the same time. Trump right
in the center of both of them. Are certainly could
be in the center of both of them. Here's an
interesting idea they got in Massachusetts for their bars.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Clip too, Michael.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
I don't usually drink more than one drink for thirty minutes,
but I really don't like when people tell.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Me what to do, so I'm not a huge fan
of that rule.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I think it sounds like a strange rule.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Little back in Obay have a people get too much,
that's when you have to stop.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Just come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And honestly, I haven't read the bill, but I know
the base is off it and it sounds a bit crazy.
And I don't know how you could implement it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
How could you place every person in the in the bar?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
What are they the board of license commissioners there in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
That's I sound like I'm drunk now. Maybe I had
more than one drink every thirty minutes, Cambridge, Massachusetts. Okay,
it still sound drunk because I am CA. I'm gonna
try this until I get it right, and I don't
care if it takes the rest of the hour, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Eric, congratulations.
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They published a preliminary working draft of the changes, and
one of them would limit customers to one drink every
thirty minutes, regardless of how intoxicated they seem. So even
if you just walked into the bar, you can only
have one drink every thirty minutes. I couldn't hate this
sort of thing more. I don't drink at all at
(35:32):
this point in my life, but I could not hate
this sort of thing more. Nanny laws, infantilization of human
adult human beings, the mind your own business, every aspect
of this lack of personal freedom absolutely unbelievable. Can you
just picture the sort of person that came up with
(35:54):
this idea and thinks it's a good idea, and how
much fun they are in life. They're the parents that
go to the skateboard park and volunteer to make sure
every kid has knee pads and elbow pads and helmets
on before they skateboard, resulting in nobody skateboarding at your park,
You're gonna have nobody at your bars. They're gonna go
to other bars where they are treated like adults.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
God, what a stupid idea.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
Armstrong and Getty
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Katty.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Armstrong and Jetty and no Key Armstrong and Getty us
considering playing this report about Doge.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
You remember Doge that Elon Musk led and the goal
was to cut waste in government and all that sort
of stuff. Well, we're we're about to talk about the
unbelievable waste we've got, for instance, in California with taxpayer money,
and I'm sure it's true in lots of other states,
and it's federal dollars, so it matters a lot of
it is federal dollars, and it matters to all of
(00:50):
you out there. We'll talk about that in a second,
but right now, I'd like to welcome to the show.
Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the California Globe,
Katie's longtime investigative journalists covered in California state capital. Katie,
how are you today?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hi?
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Jack? Doing well? Thank you?
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Before we get to this unbelievable welfare fraud story, how
much trouble is Gavin and his wife in with this?
Where did their money come from? Scandal? Is this a
real story.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
I do believe it is a real story, and it's
because this kind of nonprofit and geo scandal has been
building for a long time.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Frankly, some years.
Speaker 5 (01:36):
Ago, like two thousand and six, twenty ten, I was
reporting fraudulent nonprofits to the California Attorney General back then,
and that was when Jerry Brown was still agy and
nothing ever happened. And then we watched them just exponentially
grow and they become like this this shadow government in
California where tons of taxpayer money goes into them. Reporters
(01:59):
like me, that's where it stops, because public records requests,
you know, stop at the door of the nonprofit. And
it's just been this massive, uh just this is this
black market spending almost and unfortunately we've been reporting and
(02:19):
many other news outlets in the stay have been reporting
on the newsoms on the first partners easy nonprofits. Besides
just you know, kind of the filth that she produces
and then requires public schools to buy these weird videos.
They've you know, she's been taking a lot of money
(02:40):
out of these nonprofits as well. And I think it
could be almost like the textbookcase for as a warning
shot across the bow to a lot of other politicians
who are tied into nonprofits.
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah, they need doubt law the term nonprofit because yeah,
it's just ridiculous and I can't believe people for it
for so long. Hopefully that is coming to an end.
Just the brief version is you start a nonprofit, you
called a nonprofit, and no, you don't show any profits,
but you bring in lots of money, and you know
(03:14):
some of your expenditures are well you or you need
a salary. As the person who runs a nonprofit, it
turns out your salary is way more than you'd make
in the private sector doing something.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
And of course you need a car to.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Drive, even though in the modern world very few people
get cars anymore. You're going to have a car, and
you travel a lot, and you know you have to stay.
You shouldn't stay have to stay in a motel six,
you should have to stay in a decent hotel. Blob
blab blab meals, trips, vacations, salaries, all kinds of crap,
and you call it a nonprofit.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
When I go digging into the irs forums that nonprofits
have to file every year, you cannot believe the expenditures
for travel conferences. I mean hundreds of thousands of dollars
for some of the smallest nonprofits. It's just this lifestyle
money that is being so abused, and you know, unfortunately
they're making it bad for the legitimate nonprofits that have
(04:09):
been around a long time.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I'm providing, you.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Know, actual cancer services or research or things like that.
I think the whole thing should be scrapped and if
you're legitimate, reapply and start over.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, I would agree with that.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
It'd be something if Gavin Newsom and his wife actually
either their timing was wrong or they pushed it too
farcas so many politicians been doing this for so long.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
I mean, we had city council members in Sacramento where
I live who had their own nonprofits and they were
totally tapped into the city budgets, and we'd write about it,
and people was kind of yawn and scratch and look away.
You know, It's just like it never caught on that
this was fraud.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
The number of politicians that live lifestyles of the super
rich is amazing. And I'll include Trump was rich already,
but he he and his family are getting rich off
all kinds of different things. But the whole Biden crime
family thing that they had gone the Clinton Foundation.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
It's just it's just something you do.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
The Clintons seem to have perfected it because we watched
nonprofits just explode after the Clinton Global Initiative was done,
and I think a lot of other politicians were emboldened
by that and kind of modeled theirs after what the
Clintons did.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So this scandal, because you know, the Trump Justice Department
goes after Gavin Newsom, it looks like, you know what
it looks like. But you think there is plenty of
there there that this could this could turn out to
be a problem for Gavin wanting to run for president.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Oh absolutely, I really do.
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It's just you know, so in addition to their their
weird non her Missus Newson's weird nonprofits. Remember the Newsom's
have these two homes that they did not purchase but
were eventually gifted to that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We all live that way, right, We all have homes
given to us, several homes.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
That's that's a normal lifestyle.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
And and the LLC that was created two separate LLCs,
but they just were formed the day before the homes
closed the home they live in now in Marina is
a nine million dollar home. The one they still have
in Sacramento is three point eight million dollars, and they
didn't buy either one of them. So there's a lot
of weirdness around the Newsome's lifestyle, including remember during COVID,
(06:31):
I reported that they were caught taking a trip to
Cabo San Lucas. Okay, whatever, it sounds like, no big deal,
except that they stayed in a twenty six thousand dollars
a night dhaka.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Twenty six thousand dollars a night, yes.
Speaker 5 (06:46):
Owned by some Russian oligarch that was clearly gifted to them.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well you don't, you don't do that for nothing in return?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Exactly, God, that's a what that's now, that's luxurious.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
I can't even imagine what that looks like. And then
I think it was.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
A California Post had the story last week of the
timing of so many of these appointments where somebody would
give a bunch of money to new some one of
their nonprofits and then two days later they'd get named
the blah blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
Always Yeah, there's a lot of quid pro quo going
around and I'm sure all of it's being looked at,
not just Missus Newsom's nonprofits.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I am. I don't know if cynical's a right word,
might be. I feel like this happens so often and
nothing ever comes of it.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I just.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
My expectations for the people get away with this sort
of crap over and over again.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:43):
I know the frustration because I write a lot about it,
my research a lot about it, and we rarely see
anything happen. I think though, that there's so much of
this garbage going on in California. I mean, the Somali
fraud up in in Menta is one thing, but boy,
when that was discovered, those of us in California who
(08:04):
are aware of fraud, Oh yeah, hold my beer. Watch
what California does.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
That is a great tease, Katie Grimes, because this is
what I want to do on to take a break
and come back and get into your story about the
undercover LA raid that exposed California's multi million dollar welfare fraud,
tons of money being stolen. God, the fact that Mayor
Mamdani the other day put out that video he said
(08:30):
children go hungry in America while Elon Musk's hunger only
grows for more.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Power and money.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
When you see all this money that's being stolen in
the Snap food programs, unbelievable. Katie Grimes will explain it
all to us coming up, Stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Hey Eddie.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
Again.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Mayor Mandani.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
His response to Trump for fourth of July was this
video he put out. We need to talk more about later.
He meant, all the kids going to bed hungry in
this country, how awful it is. We have a trillionaire
when kids are going to bed hungry. If your kid
is going to bed hungry, you are not good at
figuring out where the food is. Because, for instance, in California,
the Snap food program the largest in the country, twelve
(09:16):
point five billion dollars. Twelve point five billion dollars the
Snap food program for one state. Anyway, there's a lot
of fraud going on. There was a raid Thursday, July third,
so the day before the fourth of July got lost
in the news flow. That's why we have Katie Grimes
on today to tell us about it. Katie, what happened show?
Speaker 4 (09:38):
This was a kind of multi agency raid.
Speaker 5 (09:42):
It was the US Department of Agriculture was involved, Homeland
Security was involved, LAPD was involved, and Assistant US Attorney
Bill Is Saley from the Central District in LA was involved.
And what was going on.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
So they did this big raid at a Snap.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Food stamp benefits store in skid Row in LA. And
as we know, this is you know, the Trump administration
said they were going to crack down on fraud in general,
but you know, especially federally funded programs that are experiencing
we'll say a lot of fraud like this, and welfare
(10:24):
fraud is one of the worst. As you said, we
have twelve point five billion dollars in our SNAP, which
is food stamps program in California. Eleven percent of the
program's payments are fraudulent. They're issued in error, meaning there's
either duplicates or they're people from out of state or
out of the country. I mean, eleven percent fraud out
(10:47):
of twelve point five billion is an awful lot of money.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
So, and this was just one of six raids on
July third. So what happened was and the California Post
exclusively reported this. They did an incredible job. Six stores
were charged with selling Snap food stamp benefits in exchange
for cash, while they say another twenty seven stores were
(11:13):
charged with exchanging snap benefits for all kinds of prohibitive
ideas meeting you know, alcohol, beer, vaping devices, et cetera.
Part of the reason I thought that this was so
interesting as well.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
As progress, is that.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Our California budget, one third of it is made up
of federal funding. And I say, this is why Gavin
Newsom is losing his mind over federal funding cuts and
why he and our Attorney General Robanta continues suing the
Trump administration. It's over these a lot of these funding cuts.
But what's even more interesting is almost four and five
(11:52):
federal dollars dollars that flow through our budget currently right
now support health and human serve. So it's all this
low income food stamp welfare, you know, the multi layers
of programs, and those are the ones that the Trump
administration is looking at for fraud.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And you mentioned Doge earlier.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
Remember when Elon Musk and his Dose team had been
at it for a few months, he came out and
said he thinks that half of the federal budget was fraud.
And if we could just uncover and expose and get
rid of all the frauds, that Americans wouldn't have to
pay income taxes.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Right, that tells you how bad it is.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Right, it's depressing. It is just depressing. Again, my belief
that will make much headway in eliminating this fraud is
not very high, which maybe I'm too cynical, but like
you said, we saw what happened in Minnesota. In California
(12:59):
was like hold food stamps and went even bigger. So
the reason people want to exchange their Snap stuff for
cash is so that you can buy because you're not
supposed to be able to buy cigarettes and pop and
vape pens and everything else with Snap benefits.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
We did a story in June on a federal report
that was issued by the US Department of Health and
Human Services, and it revealed this is stunning, California receives
eighty percent of all of the federal funding for illegal
immigrant families, which is also part of this welfare money
in the entire country. Yeah, so in the entire country,
(13:41):
California gets eighty percent of it. So naturally the federal
government is looking at California and number one, why we're
getting so much and it shouldn't be going to illegal immigrants,
but it does. And you know how much of that
is fraud.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
In addition, so those of you who are listening across
cost the country don't live in California, you have a
reason to care about.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
This other states, other people who live.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
In other states, because you know, we live in California
and in theory vote for this crap.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I don't vote for it, but enough people do.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
But the federal dollars those who live in other responsible states,
you should be very angry at California for wasting your money.
Speaker 5 (14:21):
Yeah, I totally agree, and especially when you hear Gavin Newsom,
you know, boasting that California sends more to the federal
government than it takes. All of these numbers that I
just shared with you prove that that's total bs. We're
taking a lot more than we're creating.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I wish I had the time to do this because
I was really angry about Mamdani's speech the other day
where he had that line about kids go to bed
hungry in this country, while Elon Musk only hungers for
more money in power. There are so many different programs
at every level of your city, county, and state and
(15:02):
federal money. Then you're just not trying very hard to
get food for your kids.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Yeah, I agree, And for the politicians that continually shriek
about our children are going to bed hungry.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
If you've walked.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
By a California elementary school anytime recently, I.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
Noticed that the majority of the kids are overweight.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is something. Well, keep uncovering the fraud.
I mean, at least we can scream about it. I don't,
like I said, I'm not optimistic that anything good will happen,
but that is absolutely amazing. Eleven percent of twelve plus
billion dollars we know is wasted, and it could be
more than that.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Yeah, it's it's disheartening, definitely, but yes, I will definitely.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Stay on this.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Thank you, Katie Grimes, the editor in chief of the
California Globe, appreciate your time today. Those stories are just
so dang maddening and explains how you can walk by
somebody on the street who looks down and out, but
they got an iPhone and they they're they're getting by,
they're doing all right. We've got so many different programs
(16:10):
with so much money sloshing around, and then you can
trade in your your government card or whatever you have,
so you can buy booze and cigarettes and vake pens
and whatever the heck you want to buy.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
It's just so depressing. You get up and go to
work every day to try to earn money.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You have to give over way too much the government,
and then it gets wasted on this crap. Children going
to bed hungry at night while Elon musk on lay
hungers for more power and money. You freaking socialists in
your line of crap. I got more on that coming
up a little bit later. I will get too. Drives
(16:50):
me nuts. We're ar with Iran again. I don't know
if you're following the news. In the last twenty four hours,
Trump said the m ou the ceasefire, that whole thing
is over.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
We'll play that for you.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
That all happened while you were asleep last night, and
that's a pretty big deal if the war is back on.
We talked to Mike Liines about that earlier. I'll summarize
a little a little bit of that when we come
back next. Trump is meeting with NATO right now, and
there's been news made since we went on the air today.
We'll have the very latest if you miss it. Gets
the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
I've just spilled coffee all over, including all over my
iPhone and trying to clean that off.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
And it's a mess.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But luckily, because I took my workplace violence training just yesterday,
I am not going to overreact and punch anybody or
break anything because of the workplace violence training.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I'll have to talk about that later. Lawyers run the world. Man.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
You realize all that training you take at work, all
of it is just so that they can say, well,
we told them not to sexually harass anybody, or punch
anybody or steal anything. It's all lawyer thing. They don't
expect it to actually work her. And it's so such
a waste of time and so on. How many gazillions
of dollars of US worker productivity is wasted on workplace training? God,
(18:14):
and I know it's worse than the government. I have
a friend who works in the government and they're doing
it constantly, and they're longer and even more pointless than
the rest of us. AnyWho, I think I got all
the coffee cleaned off my phone, kind of. There's some
pretty big news being made in the last dozen hours
as we're bombing Iran again. Trump is a Overdare in
(18:37):
Europe meeting with the NATO leaders, Iran was firing on
ships in the straight of horror moves. Right, So we
got this MoU the Memorandum of understanding, and the deal
was supposed to be we end our blockade, Iran lets
the ships through.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
I thought this was a terrible deal.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
We allow Ran to make tons of money selling oil again,
and then later we'll sit down and have our discussions
about nuclear weapons.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Well, guess what.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
The later nuclear weapons discussion, according to Wall Street Journal today,
never happened. They've made zero progress on the nuclear weapons stuff.
I don't know why Iran started firing on ships in
the straight of horror moves.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They got a good deal going. That shows you.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
That actually shows you maybe that's why Trump is so frustrated.
It actually shows you how crazy they are. They got
a good deal for them. They were making money again
off the oil. They're dragging their feet on the nuclear
stuff so they can continue to try to get a
nuclear weapon. And the longer it goes on the closer
we get through the midterm elections, the less likely it
(19:47):
is the war starts back up. I don't know why
they would fire on these ships. I think it's because
they're actually as Trump once called them, crazy mfforts. I
think they actually are. But so they were firing on chips.
We bombed the heck out of a ran yesterday. Trump
was asked today by reporters, where are we on the whole?
MoU this is how it went.
Speaker 4 (20:10):
To see fire over?
Speaker 2 (20:11):
If the seat fire done, is the emo you dead?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
It's a very interesting question to me. I think it's over.
I don't want to deal with him with the scum.
You know what scum is. There's gum, there's sick people.
They're lit by sick people, and they're vicious, violent people,
and if they had a nuclear weapon, they'd use it.
As far as I'm concerned, it's over. I'll speak to
(20:36):
our negotiators. They want to negotiate. They're good people, Steve Woodcuff,
Jared Kushier, but they have to come back to me.
As far as I'm concerned, it's just a.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Waste of time dealing with them. They're liars.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
We make a deal, and if I make a deal
with him, we have a deal, and he goes out,
he talks, we make a deal, everyone's agreed, no nuclear weapon.
We make a deal, they go outside talk to the
press say we never even talked about it.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. So as I'm concerned,
it's over.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Well, he's right about that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
The only interesting part to me is why it took
him till now to figure this out. Similar with Vladimir Putin,
and we got some stuff he said about Ukraine and
that war. But why it's taking him so long to
catch on that the Islamo fascists in Iran or the
(21:32):
ego megalomaniac dictator of Russia aren't like dealing with business
people in the United States. I don't know why it's
so hard for him to catch out to He's just
assuming everybody does what's in their best financial interest, because
that's the way most business people are, like almost all
of them, especially in the United States. But that ain't
(21:53):
the way it is with the Iranian Republican Guard or
whatever they're called. They're crazy people. We hit him pretty
hard yesterday. Trump talks about that, and so.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
We hit him very hard last night, very hard. I
would say twenty to one, twenty times tougher. I told
him every time we hit then. Of course they're dirty players,
so they go after everyone probably including me. I've been
number one on the list for years.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
I hope he's actually fed up and by the end
of the day, we don't hear him saying I had
a good talk with He'll name somebody, and things are
looking really, really good. So though, we're gonna let him
make money again, because we announced yesterday the Treasury Secretary
cut off their oil money again. They're no longer allowed
to sell oil and make money, thank god. But I
(22:42):
hope Trump doesn't change his mind.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
He goes on this. Me not talks with their eye
will not risue him. I don't care.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
They can talk, but I think they're wasting that time.
They are a bunch of lying guys. I do it
in my whole life. That's all I do is zeals.
My whole life is that how I became resident. I
guess that's a deal too, right. But I made a
lot of money, a lot of great success, now tremendous success.
Everything I did, I was successful. And I deal with
these guys, and I say, this is from a different school.
(23:09):
They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people. They've hurt their people.
They killed fifty four thousand people as of now. That
were protesting. You know when people say, how come they
haven't taken over? The kid take over because they're dead.
They killed them. Nobody's going to take over. They have
no guns and the other side of his machine guns,
(23:29):
and they're killing them with the press as they're reported.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But they're bad people.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
They're bad people, and frankly, I don't want to waste
my time with them now. I'll let our wonderful negotiators
keep talking if they want.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
But I don't see it. I don't like these people.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
I hope he means it and like he's like fully
absorbed who these people are. Let's go back and here,
let's remember jd Vance saying this June fifteenth, So what
is that three weeks ago June fifteenth. June fifteenth to
jd Vance's vice president said this about the very people
(24:11):
that Donald Trump just said are crazy cuckoo. I don't
like them. They're scumbags, you can't trust them, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (24:18):
The coolest thing about the progress we've made over the
last few weeks is that you see people within the
Iranian system, senior leadership, even IERGC officials, say, you know what,
we may have some animosity we may have some mistrust,
but we recognize the way that we've done business with
the United States for forty seven years is a mistake.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Let's try something else that is cool, JD.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
We mocked that at the time. So JD is a
super smart guy and a wily guy.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
Did he believe that?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Did he think we were stupid enough to believe that?
Did he think that that would hold? It didn't hold
very long. It isn't really cool. The IRGC did not decide,
you know what, that was a mistake. That whole death
to America, death Israel thing. We changed our mind. I
can't wait until the history books are written. I swear
this is going to be a fascinating behind the scenes
(25:09):
story because I have no idea what's going on there.
Why JD and Trump pretended this, I don't know. If
it's the presumptive close thing that salespeople do that sometimes
works with weak people. These are not weak people we're
dealing with.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Anyway.
Speaker 3 (25:26):
I wanted to get this Byron York writes this in
the Washington Examiner today, and this might be where I
am on the war. So Trump says of the US
Iran memorandum of understanding as far as I'm concerned, it's over. Okay,
So now is there really any need to finish the
job in Iran? Back to Byron York. Now is there
any need to finish the job in Iran? Remember what
(25:49):
worked in the past. No sanctions, relief, economic pressure, and
not a penny from the United States. The nuclear program
is could put for some period of years, we hope,
and the world's oil powers are moving away from reliance
on the Strait. That's true, So going forward, keep up
the economic pressure, hit back hard whenever Iran attacks a
(26:10):
ship in the Strait. Forget about any sort of treaty
or agreement. I agree. If more extensive bombing is needed
in the future, do it. Then there's no need for
a neat, clean ending to this. Just keep up the
pressure and move on. That might be where I am
on this. We don't need to bomb them until they
come to the negotiating table and sign something. We demand
(26:34):
that the Strait is open, or we bomb them. I'm
going to assume that they allow the Strait to be open,
because at some point they'll realize they've got no choice
the making a deal for the nuclear stuff. We bomb
the heck out of their program. We set them back
quite a while. We'll have to keep our eye on
it and all that sort of stuff best we can.
Around Israel is obviously keeping their eye on it, satellites
(26:58):
and spies and everything else we've done, but we continue
to squeeze him economically. We don't let them make money
off of oil until the damn regime falls, which it
will eventually, might take years, but will eventually. And unfortunately,
the coming to the rescue of the Iranian people. You
(27:19):
know your time is at hand. Unfortunately that's over. That's
not true, and that ain't gonna happen at least on
the timetable that humanity would like. Interesting number Trump throughout there,
did he say fifty four thousand protesters were killed. I
don't know if he just reversed the numbers from the
forty five that people have been saying for a while,
(27:41):
or if he has new intelligence that's fifty four. Whatever
the number is, it's one of the largest slaying of
peaceful protesters in world history, certainly in the modern era.
Much bigger t than Teman Square in China in nineteen
(28:03):
eighty nine. I think it was much bigger than that.
Doesn't get the attention that it deserves doesn't get the
full weight of discussion. There need to be documentaries and
movies and all kinds of different stuff about that books,
because that is a really big deal. That's who we're
dealing with. And the point I'm making is that's who
(28:23):
we're dealing with, the kind of people that machine gun
forty fifty thousand of their own citizens to say in power.
And Trump thought he was going to do a deal
where we'll give you your oil money up front on
the condition that you'll then sit down and have a
discussion about the nuclear stuff. Again, the Wall Street Journal
reporting today that they had made zero headway on the
(28:45):
nuclear issues and zero headway on any of the technical
stuff about how much uranium you get to keep and
inspections and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Nothing.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
So they got the money and nothing on the nukes,
just like Picar, everybody, including Fox predicted. The only people
pretty much in the country that believe this was gonna
work Trump, jd Vance, and a couple other people in
the cabinet who would say nice things, but nobody else
believe it is going to work, and lo and behold
it to not. So that's where we are on that.
(29:19):
I don't know if we're going to keep up the bombing.
Trump did say earlier that we're likely to hit them
really hard again tonight. I like when Trump said they're
scumm Do you know what that means? Yeah, I know
what scumming means, which is kind of funny. I want
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(30:30):
in cognity dot com slash armstrong, Incogny dot com slash armstrong.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
So that's where we are on the Warren Iran.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I do want to hit a couple of things with
what Trump had to say about Russia and Ukraine. He
talked with Zelensky today and then he was supposed to
jump on the phone with Putin. There's been no reporting
on that yet. Got a bunch of other stuff I
want to get to. Also, the way that WNBA treats
Caitlin Clark is just insane. But the National Review nailed
(30:58):
down the reason for it and it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
Stick around.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
Armstrong, Hetty.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
Oh, I just saw what Zelensky said. I just saw
what Zelensky said. That is fantastic. We're gonna have to
play that clip first.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
This about fried chicken.
Speaker 3 (31:22):
For some reason, it was National Fried Chicken Day or
something like that, and uh, a couple of late night
comics took a swing at that.
Speaker 8 (31:30):
Police say a texasman stabbed his roommate this weekend during
a fight over a piece of fried chicken. So even
if you don't eat the fried chicken, it will still
find a way to kill you.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
KFC.
Speaker 9 (31:43):
In the news, KFC has come out with a sunscreen
that makes you smell like fried chicken. Of course, if
you want to smell like KFC, you could just ride
around in any single guy's car.
Speaker 8 (31:56):
A man in New York City is claiming that he
easily found a half smoked a joint in his Popeye
stick a sandwich. Well, at least we know the chicken
was having a good time when it died.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
I always feel horrible after I ate KFC. I love
the taste of it, but it makes me feel just awful.
I ate Chick fil A the other day. My town
won't allow chick fil A in it because they're Christian,
and good Lord, you wouldn't want Christians in your town.
But chick fil A is great. That is a great sandwich,
and I don't feel gross after it like I do
(32:30):
after the colonel. Sorry colonel, and I appreciate your service
to our country, but your chickens super greasy. So here's
a funny thing that Zelensky said, Trump is at the
NATO meeting, and he was sitting down with the President
of Ukraine, who has had one of the hardest jobs
on planet Earth for the last four years, defending himself
against the onslaught of the Russian Army. He has seen
(32:54):
things no human beings should ever have to see. AnyWho,
he is still trying to goociate with Trump to get
more help because they're on the front foot and they
got a decent chance of winning this thing, or at
least getting Putin to quit. So Trump, talking to Zelensky,
talked to Putin also, and here's how the conversation went present.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Putin said, I would love to meet in Moscow, and
I said, I don't think you know, I have to
put myself in this position.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
I don't know that he'd go to Moscow.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Maybe he would.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Would you go to Moscow?
Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's difficult. There are lots of Ukrainian drones.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
They are.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
If you didn't catch that.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
First of all, it'd be ridiculous, the idea of President
Zelensky going to Moscow. You think they wouldn't kill him.
They absolutely would kill him. But anyway, him saying, well,
it's a little dangerous there's a lot of Ukrainian drones there.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
They've been blowing up stuff left and right in Moscow
and all over the country. Actually, we'll get into a
little more of that on an Hour four. Got two
big wars going on at the same time. Trump right
in the center of both of them. Are certainly could
be in the center of both of them. Here's an
interesting idea they got in Massachusetts for their bars.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
Clip too, Michael.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
I don't usually drink more than one drink for thirty minutes,
but I really don't like when people tell.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Me what to do, so I'm not a huge fan
of that rule.
Speaker 2 (34:25):
I think it sounds like a strange rule.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Little back in Obay have a people get too much,
that's when you have to stop.
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Just come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
And honestly, I haven't read the bill, but I know
the base is off it and it sounds a bit crazy.
And I don't know how you could implement it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
How could you place every person in the in the bar?
Speaker 3 (34:43):
What are they the board of license commissioners there in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
That's I sound like I'm drunk now. Maybe I had
more than one drink every thirty minutes, Cambridge, Massachusetts. Okay,
it still sound drunk because I am CA. I'm gonna
try this until I get it right, and I don't
care if it takes the rest of the hour, Cambridge, Massachusetts, Eric, congratulations.
(35:10):
They published a preliminary working draft of the changes, and
one of them would limit customers to one drink every
thirty minutes, regardless of how intoxicated they seem. So even
if you just walked into the bar, you can only
have one drink every thirty minutes. I couldn't hate this
sort of thing more. I don't drink at all at
(35:32):
this point in my life, but I could not hate
this sort of thing more. Nanny laws, infantilization of human
adult human beings, the mind your own business, every aspect
of this lack of personal freedom absolutely unbelievable. Can you
just picture the sort of person that came up with
(35:54):
this idea and thinks it's a good idea, and how
much fun they are in life. They're the parents that
go to the skateboard park and volunteer to make sure
every kid has knee pads and elbow pads and helmets
on before they skateboard, resulting in nobody skateboarding at your park,
You're gonna have nobody at your bars. They're gonna go
to other bars where they are treated like adults.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
God, what a stupid idea.
Speaker 5 (36:17):
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